#halo-the-series-chat

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rapid mirage
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Oh they’ll find a way lol.

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RDJ complained in Iron Man 1 as well. I’m sure it’s a pain. But they gotta commit. And in the case of Iron Man, it paid off. Looks great.

unreal pebble
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I'd say what little we have seen of the Spartans in armor in the show has actually been quite solid.

sacred plume
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A part of me feels like the reason there wasnt much suit this season was also because they didnt have suits to allow the actors to feel comfortable inside of

sacred plume
unreal pebble
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Though in RDJ's case, I don't think he actually had to move as much as PS has.

rapid mirage
rapid mirage
worthy breach
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what do yall think of the show?

toxic warren
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I love it, been really enjoying it so far

worthy breach
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might have to give the show another chance in s2

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(didnt really like s1 tbh)

rustic summit
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Ah yes, can't be me crying at the end of yhe episode

subtle crystal
worthy breach
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rustic summit
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season 1 - halo, the fever dream
season 2- halo, things get better

worthy breach
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when does master cheif find his helmet?

bitter ginkgo
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S2 is just more of the same of season 1

rustic summit
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its a big improvement imo

subtle crystal
worthy breach
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Approximately 5' tall and relatively weak, Grunts tend to travel in packs and stick close to more powerful allies. Individually they are easy to defeat, but in groups they can overwhelm careless Marines. Their armor seems to house some sort of life-support mechanism. They are known to use a variety of weapons including the plasma pistol, plasma rifle and plasma grenades.

timid tiger
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Is there any way to watch it for free?

toxic warren
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There are free trials a of Paramount plus available from various places, Xbox Game pass has 30 days I think. Other than that, you need to subscribe to Paramount to watch it in full

subtle crystal
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ohhh I thought perm ways.

spring wolf
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yeah i was gonna suggest a free trial but i wasn't sure if that was gaming the system lol

timid gyro
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it's also on showtime if you have the paramount featured channel.

toxic warren
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Sky Cinema has Paramount bundled in

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You can also add it as part of a Prime subscription add on channel or something

toxic warren
timid gyro
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coincidentally, that showtime channel in my area is 343.

subtle crystal
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It was written.

tawdry kestrel
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is anyone else having issues loading paramount plus

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im trying to watch the new episode but of course it craps out on me

stark mango
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i have to open the site incognito tab for it to load properly

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try that mayb

subtle crystal
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im using the android app and streaming it to my tv

tawdry kestrel
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ive tried both smart TV and android app neither are working

lunar spear
spring grottoBOT
fickle cedar
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I’m happy my paramount account glitched so i can just watch it for free on my phone. If i login anywhere else i have to pay but my phone is fine

timid tiger
fickle cedar
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I really dont know it just is.

median sundial
flat spire
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damn can’t wait for next episode

remote cairn
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Is this week's episode good?

flat spire
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it’s what you wanted to see

remote cairn
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Good. Watching in about an hour

worthy breach
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i gave up on the series

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im back on h2 tbh

last parcel
timid gyro
idle pawn
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The replies completely misconstrued what Kiki Wolfkill said at all & are throwing a temper tantrum over it.

unreal pebble
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What a shocker.

stark mango
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Ok

delicate parcel
urban bramble
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I like the series can’t wait for the next episode it’s getting good

rapid mirage
median sundial
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it's sort of clear what kiki was saying

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and it was corporate mumbo jumbo

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stuff 343 has been saying for years as an excuse for the new writting style towards how chief acts

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a lot of halo fans like myself were aware there would be changes to chief and the story overall to adapt to television overall, but they completely missed the mark on how to properly capture what halo feels like and the general theme. this feels like a butchered retelling of events which funny enough, makes even CE look superior in its story telling.

median sundial
subtle crystal
idle pawn
dreamy stirrup
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The show is doing great with the general audience, which is the target.

obtuse minnow
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I'm fine with this show. I look for the good things. Not bad. And i'm kind of a person who likes things for Reasons noone understands.

median sundial
buoyant lava
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"John is a developed character, look, he says sentences while pressing buttons in Halo 4, and he cries because he misses Cortana in Halo 5."

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"Cortana touched his chest." 😫🥰

subtle crystal
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Ugh.

buoyant lava
rapid mirage
sick blade
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i should have cancelled my paramount account a 😭 long time ago

buoyant lava
unreal pebble
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🙄

rapid mirage
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😁

worthy breach
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I think the show would actually be good if master cheif kept his damn helmet on

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Also how am I not allowed to say the f word in a discord for a game that contains the f word multiple times

toxic warren
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I don't think that word has ever been used in a Halo game. Discord isn't one of the games though, we're a family friendly server here

worthy breach
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And ce

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And the swear word for bumhole is said in 5 according to google

toxic warren
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I could see CE somewhere, 2 at a stretch, not the rest of them. Having been a part of Infinite's development, I know it was never used there

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But again, our rules here are different and don't follow 1:1 with what is in the games

worthy breach
frank copper
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Halo never ever had f-words on all entries. It had some words but not strong words. Halo ce, 2's and 3's word case is equal to that of a pg-13 film rating not a R rating.

rapid mirage
# worthy breach I think the show would actually be good if master cheif kept his damn helmet on

I don't have a problem with the helmet coming off, personally. Considering the show should be showing more story than we got in the games, I wouldn't expect Chief to be wearing his helmet/armor in the gym or in a briefing, so it makes sense. The problem was that the show didn't execute it right. The face reveal should have been more meaningful/impactful instead of wasting it on Kwan. And having it on/off at appropriate times is key, which S1 was comically bad at. Also, if there was more action in the show, then it wouldn't be so noticeable. If we had 50/50 action instead of 10/90, then I don't think many people would have a big problem with it.

median sundial
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This is a good video to watch which sort of sum up people's feelings on the show

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( those who dislike it )

worthy breach
dusk arrow
rapid mirage
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But I picked up that that's what they were going for even though they didn't even circle back to it when they meet again.

dusk arrow
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yeah, the idea on paper sounds cool but the execution could’ve been better, and i don’t personally like how they did the battle of reach as “they knew but said screw it we dont care about you”, didnt sit right with me there

rapid mirage
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Could have spent an entire season on it instead of 1 episode.

dusk arrow
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exactly, like i want to see marines and the unsc sending in everything they can and failing at it, one episode for all of that just doesn’t work, at least half the season would’ve been better imo, then they could do the part where chief is proving to be more than just another expendable soldier

rapid mirage
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Definitely. This show needs to be less Star Trek and more Band of Brothers.

dusk arrow
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exactly

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although i do like the side plot of the one dude and his wife(forget their names) ||and them trying to find their son||

rapid mirage
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I like Soren's character, but I could live without the side plot. Or maybe if it just had a little more to it than what they've done so far.

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Not sure how they're gonna tie that one in a bow.

dusk arrow
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maybe the kid becomes a spartan 3 🤷, thats my bet

rapid mirage
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Probably right.

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It would have been nice to see Soren more conflicted about not being a Spartan anymore.

dusk arrow
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yeah, ngl tho i really like the designs of the spi armor

rapid mirage
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Looks tight on those 5'2" supersoldiers lol

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No but seriously, the armor looks really good.

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The show has consistently done well with the armor.

dusk arrow
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lmao, i was also confused about how the recruitment process worked for the spartan 3’s in the show tbh

median sundial
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Spartan III's look good, but I hate the white color chosen

rapid mirage
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Yeah. I was really hoping for big bulky armor like Jorge's in the show.

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And more colors.

dusk arrow
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yeah

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if you’re gonna do one color then do all of them

rapid mirage
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They're basically storm troopers.

median sundial
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Well the SPI armor makes sense

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But why didn't they use like.. UNSC green

dusk arrow
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seriously it made me so confused lol

idle pawn
median sundial
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🙄

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Because critics are trusted in giving people a accurate unbiased review of media.

rapid mirage
rapid mirage
median sundial
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No because seemingly he's refering to people who glaze the show.

abstract wing
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I'm gonna say here that I'm liking the show! I started watching it a few weeks ago after a long Halo hiatus, and it's definitely way different from what I expected when it was announced a while back. I personally like what they're doing with Chief (Especially in S2, I don't necessarily enjoy him in S1), and I'm excited to see next week's finale, hoping they are gonna make a S3 because I wanna see this franchise thrive in other formats besides games

idle pawn
median sundial
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Lol, what? People judge on all of that.

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You live under a rock.

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While people do criticize Chief not acting like this canonical self, which is a valid concern, but I do understand why he doesn't.. The TV show isn't just seen as flawed because of that, and saying that is dismissive.

idle pawn
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Have you even seen the discourse about the show on Twitter & YouTube?

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Its literally nothing Chief isn't Chief because he doesn't wear his armor/helmet.

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Or completely misconstruing the show's exploration of the dichotomy between Master Chief & John as Alter Ego Batman/Bruce Wayne superhero identity stuff, instead of perspectives of the legend/propaganda vs the actual person, how that person feels to hold that immense reputation, whether it is deserved or not.

median sundial
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I mean you have to understand people are USED to a Chief who is stoic and wears the armor consistently.

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The characterization of Chief is so drastic and his portrayal is not what was expected out of a Halo TV show, ( Which has been a thing thrown around since Bungie was still making Halo ). So it's a HUGE let down for fans which it's some weird version of the character they grown to love.

subtle crystal
# median sundial While people do criticize Chief not acting like this canonical self, which is a ...

tbf if you'll go back a bit even in this channel, most of the claim for "this ain't my chief" are due to the helmet&armor not being on him 24/7 (him having it on for non-battle scenes is ridiculous, why there aren't lots of battle scenes is a different thing); I've gathered my own interpretation that throughout the show Chief actually "earns the suit" and "being the myth" beyond just serving as UNSC's walking war propaganda and poster boy.

median sundial
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Wouldn't have Chief already earned the armor considering the augmentations and the military training he's been receiving since he was kidnapped as a child?

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He was already considered a hero due to the Spartan II's work with the insurrection.

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Of course that could be different in this canon, but that's a really bad excuse, especially since the show doesn't allude to him "earning the suit" or "being the myth".

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The show makers specifically said they're against the armor ( not the armor, mainly keeping the helmet on ) because it's hard to portrayal the actors emotion and all of that because of it, or you don't get the same impact.

subtle crystal
# median sundial Wouldn't have Chief already earned the armor considering the augmentations and t...

You're talking about the literal "earning", I'm taking about earning from the perspective of "personal growth" and Chief learning to be independent, fighting for what's good but on his own "agenda"

If I had to make other conclusions I'd probably say they (the team behind the show) is using characters and key events from the lore (like the falling of reach) to create some sort of an alternative origin story where he's growing from "Masster Chief, UNSC's war propaganda" to "our master chief" as you'd define it

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So it's kinda both of an alternative origin story and sort of a prequel to a character you know but doesn't behave like how you'd expect and how he gets to be more like "the myth", and I think it's pretty cool if I'm close to the true meaning of that story.

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Especially since (and correct me if I'm wrong) I'm pretty sure Chief was always just "The Master Chief" but how did he get to it? Lots of Spartans got the suits and augmentation, what makes him above everyone else?

median sundial
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Master Chief Petty Officer

subtle crystal
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Again, you're talking about the dry details and I'm talking about the myth and the story

median sundial
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And the games established him as a overly lucky, stoic badass. Whereas this show portrays him as kind of whiney and overall irritating to be around.

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In fact Vanak was more "Chief" in Season 1, then Chief was.

subtle crystal
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Never really liked S1's Vannak, he was too stoic for me

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I thought you might understand my pov more if I'll explain my interpretation, but welp.

median sundial
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No offense it's hard to understand something which doesn't really make sense.. I mean sure your idea is cool, but the way the story in the show trys to portray it, it's doing less then a good job.

subtle crystal
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It's fine, it's just like to me it doesn't make sense of why you prefer a much robotic version of what is still essentially human beings

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For me the show achieves what I'm gathering from it, both as part of "the general audience" and a junior Halo fan.

rapid mirage
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Y'all just ignoring everything I've written for the past day in here... conveniently I might add. And who are these Twitter/YT reviewers you're talking about? MintBlitz, UberNick, HaloFollower, BBKDragoon, FootedGhost, Laper Larden, KevinKoolx, and more have actually given lots of good points about why the quality of the show is lacking. All I have heard in favor of the show is that it's good because it's different. It's good because it looks good. It's good because I like it. It's good because you're a hater. It's good because you're not a real Halo fan.

...those aren't reasons lol.

Tell me about a truly great movie/show and then tell me how the Halo show measured up to it with detail. Like compare it to Band of Brothers, or OG Star Wars, or SOMETHING. Pick something we can all agree was great, then tell me how the Halo show did something similar and that's why it's great. I doubt you'll come up with much.

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Or better yet, tell me about an original idea the showrunners had that has never been done before, and that's why it's great...

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And hey listen... I like plenty of stuff that isn't good. I liked Battleship and that movie was awful lol, but I still like it. I'm not dogging anyone who likes the show, but I am gonna call BS on anyone who says it's anything higher than a 5/10.

limber vine
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i dislike like 2 out of the 3 main storylines in the show

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i literally just go on my phone when kwan ha comes on

rapid mirage
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So we'll put you at a 3.3/10 lol

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I'm with you dude. I am hoping the Kwan arc ends next week, but I have little faith it will.

limber vine
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keyes is badass, i think they did halsey pretty well too

bitter ginkgo
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The can’t kill off a chosen one, magician, assassin

rapid mirage
limber vine
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sorens cool, gives me a ripped dave chapelle vibe

rapid mirage
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Haha I think Installation00 predicted that they're gonna give him Johnson's role in the show.

limber vine
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makee is like 1/10

subtle crystal
rapid mirage
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The critics criticize the show. The fans of the show criticize the critics lol.

subtle crystal
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You might not be like that, but the majority of the people who "criticize" the show aren't as friendly as you claim

rapid mirage
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Bruh. Don’t make me go screenshot stuff.

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It’s so much work lol

subtle crystal
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Unless you can screenshot stuff from 8 weeks ago, sure

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I've had someone going as far as responding to every comment I made here for several weeks with a clown emoji which was concluded which trying to impersonate me for couple hours, again I'm not saying everyone are as hostile as I claim, but lots of people aren't nearly as friendly to anyone who dares liking anything else but "their master chief"

subtle crystal
median sundial
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is gradual*

subtle crystal
median sundial
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🙄

subtle crystal
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My opinion doesn't make sense to you, your opinion doesn't make sense to me

rapid mirage
# subtle crystal And that part is probably your worst outtake in this whole thing, opinions are s...

Because I don’t believe it’s entirely subjective. There’s certainly a subjective component, but there are objective components as well, measurable things. Like being able to identify and quantify mistakes. Like the CGI error in S1. Or leaving too many plot inconsistencies like issues with timeline within the show. Stuff the objectively provable. If you consider the objective stuff the show gets knocked down considerably. So when someone tells me the show is an 8, I say, compared to what?

median sundial
subtle crystal
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If it wasn't subjective, they weren't opinions, they were facts

rapid mirage
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It’s not an opinion that the CGI artist forgot to paint a weapon.

median sundial
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LOL I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

subtle crystal
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Then it's a 9/10☺️

median sundial
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The unpainted Plasma pistol

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LOL

subtle crystal
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Ok, and? That's just nitpicking, if anything it's just hurting your point about being friendly and understanding

limber vine
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haha i just had to google the plasma pistol, pretty funny

median sundial
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I mean with the budget of this show, I feel like nitpicking is granted.

subtle crystal
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Just looked it myself, it's one frame someone forgot to paint

Def a bad show, you're right

median sundial
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Like how do you forget to paint a prop.

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He agrees

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The world is at peace

subtle crystal
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And you wonder why people who disagree with you think it's a childish stance, jeez

rapid mirage
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Trust me I am very fair about the show. I celebrate when they get something right. Like I’ve been saying. I want halo to succeed. But I’m talking about facts like you said. I’m not saying 1 mistake makes the show bad. But stacking them up is distracting.

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And when you add in logical inconsistencies it’s hard to take the show seriously.

median sundial
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BOCO.. You're just a hater dude.

rapid mirage
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I’ve been told lol

subtle crystal
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Just to make it clear, I have nothing with people who dislike the show, I have a problem with people who dislike that I like the show; that's the kind of person you (@rapid mirage ) currently present yourself as

median sundial
rapid mirage
median sundial
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instead of focusing on the funny uncolored prop

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it's a bunch of inconsistences, the uncolored prop is one of manny

rapid mirage
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And if you scroll up you’ll see me talking to others about everything I liked about the show.

subtle crystal
obtuse minnow
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Every hater Is looking for the most unnecessary Reasons to hate it. There can be a cool scene but They Will complain like: OH no! Chief Walked a little to the left And He dint walk straight forward.

rapid mirage
subtle crystal
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Dislike the show, notice the "inconsistencies", but respect the people who simply like the show for what it is, BOCO.

obtuse minnow
subtle crystal
median sundial
subtle crystal
rapid mirage
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I ignore people that complain about dumb stuff. I’m more concerned with how the characters are portrayed, how they act, the plot, does it make sense, is it compelling, are we wasting screen time with filler, how’s the writing, how’s the CG, stuff like that.

obtuse minnow
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A lot of people who hate it Are saying Its because writers want him without the Armor. But why they Are not thinking like: Hes without the Armor Becuase parangosky wants him gone

median sundial
subtle crystal
obtuse minnow
rapid mirage
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I said this earlier. They want him out of the armor to convey his humanity. And in S2 it’s about proving Ackerson wrong when he told Chief, “you’re just a man in a suit.”

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Which is why he survives Reach without his armor.

subtle crystal
obtuse minnow
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Well... That Armor isnt everything. Its like a lightsaber Doesn't make you a jedi.

rapid mirage
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Considering Ackerson says the line in one episode then bounces with the armor the next, I figured it was a strong guess.

subtle crystal
median sundial
obtuse minnow
rapid mirage
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Yes. And I love the concept for Chief’s character development. My criticism is that it’s so early in the show that it didn’t feel as impactful as it could have been if there was more build up. More conflict forcing him to prove himself.

obtuse minnow
subtle crystal
obtuse minnow
rapid mirage
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I missed it I think.

subtle crystal
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Just a sec

subtle crystal
# rapid mirage I missed it I think.

You're talking about the literal "earning", I'm taking about earning from the perspective of "personal growth" and Chief learning to be independent, fighting for what's good but on his own "agenda"

If I had to make other conclusions I'd probably say they (the team behind the show) is using characters and key events from the lore (like the falling of reach) to create some sort of an alternative origin story where he's growing from "Masster Chief, UNSC's war propaganda" to "our master chief" as you'd define it
So it's kinda both of an alternative origin story and sort of a prequel to a character you know but doesn't behave like how you'd expect and how he gets to be more like "the myth", and I think it's pretty cool if I'm close to the true meaning of that story.

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I'll be happy to elaborate on my perspective if you want.

rapid mirage
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I agree with you on that. That was my guess too. That they had to give us this weird Chief we don’t recognize in order to give him an arc where he would become the Chief we know.

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Pretty ballsy to take a risk like that.

subtle crystal
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I think it's something that's easier to agree with and recognize once you see the whole product and the journey Chief goes through.
In the games he's alone most of the time, right?

rapid mirage
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Right. I was even saying that to my wife. It might actually pay off in retrospect when the show is complete.

obtuse minnow
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Well sometimes when shows come out they don't make sense until you watch the last episodes... For example kenobi. People complained about ||killed grand inquisitor. But if they Waited 2 weeks they Will find out that this was the plan of vader||

rapid mirage
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Right. And I’m open to that for Halo.

obtuse minnow
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rapid mirage
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I just don’t want Inst04 in season 3 to last 1 episode like the fall of reach did. There was build up for a few episodes but it would have been nice to see more of the conflict. It was a major battle after all.

subtle crystal
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See? When you consider this things it makes even more sense for as why this show serves as a great prequel to Chief.

rapid mirage
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And I could see the stoicism coming into play for fear of not wanting to lose anyone else.

obtuse minnow
subtle crystal
subtle crystal
rapid mirage
obtuse minnow
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Maybe then He Will get Blue team? Like I mean... SEASON 3 Will be about (halo 1 game) but in Their own way.
Season 4 Will be halo 2 And 3 etc.

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I Hope you know what I mean.

rapid mirage
obtuse minnow
subtle crystal
obtuse minnow
rapid mirage
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A lot of criticism comes from not knowing where some of these side plots and characters are going. And for as much time spent on Kwan and Soren, they’re really gonna need to stick the landing so people don’t feel like time was wasted on them.

median sundial
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Seemingly they're giving her the blessed one treatment

subtle crystal
rapid mirage
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Yeah which is why S2 Kwan is totally different.

rapid mirage
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I’m willing to concede a lot of my criticism that is awaiting a payoff. Things that are still open-ended that will be wrapped up at some point later on, but the stuff that doesn’t make sense or the questions the show doesn’t answer.. I have a harder time with.

obtuse minnow
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But to be Honest... In those last 3 episodes Kwan Is kinda good... 🤔😄

median sundial
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All humans are reclaimers etc

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Would give the Covenant more of a reason to you know, massacre humanity.

rapid mirage
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Yeah. OG lore told a fantastic story, in my OPINION, easily a 9.5/10. So the show has big shoes to fill if it is gonna compete. Not saying it can’t, just saying the bar is high.

rapid mirage
median sundial
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I mean It can be seperate and different and be good.

obtuse minnow
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I simply see that they Are doing that game Story (maybe books I don't know) but in Their own way. I see those similarities.

rapid mirage
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Loosely.

marsh mist
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I don't know why they made her father black is my question str Johnson was the black guy ...I'm trying to understand the show to the game an they say nothing about the Spartans one's what about blue team ....? The game and the show don't add up

burnt obsidian
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does it really matter tho

marsh mist
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And how did they just take off all of a spartan 2 armor??

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It just seems it's someone's fan fiction that some how got put on TV

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And the sells of halo must have fallen to allow this Abomination

subtle crystal
marsh mist
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But how dose someone's fan fiction bace on a well known game be done without copyright??

burnt obsidian
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it is a very expensive corporate fan fiction :)

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im still salty that s2 isn't avbl here so don't mind me

marsh mist
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I wonder how much it took to make this fan fiction show

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Bc I have read fan fiction stories online that have a better story without cannon Characters :/

subtle crystal
idle pawn
tacit cloak
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If you look at the show like I do this is a TV show not the game things will be changed

Chief and the Spartans kai vanic and riz not having their armor on isn't discrimination against the game Spartans aren't allowed in public areas with their armor on and when their in battle they can wear the armor

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Also I want to mention that if you look at the TV show it's actually following the games in a way Chief getting cortana for the first time was taken from escaping halo reach and cortana being used on the pillar of autumn and bein inserted after getting cortana from captain keys but got changed into Halsey putting cortana into Chief herself

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Chief Kai vanic and riz would be blue team in halo 5
Chief be Chief Kai be Linda vanic be George riz be Kelly

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That whole part between makee and chief now that was put in their because of what happened between cortana and chief at the end of halo 4

That only happened because chief kept his promise after leaving cortana on high charity and been trying to get cortana back in halo 3 chief was really concerned and worried about leaving cortana
Their for is the reason why what happened in the TV show between makee and chief

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Touching that artifact the first time in the show is just like what the librarian in halo 4 explained to him of who he really is its a reason why 343 guilty spark kept calling chief reclaimer

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That episode on season 2 called onyx was taken from one of the books "ghosts of onyx" just only the name was taken

tawdry kestrel
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silver timeline > canon

tribal ether
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series are a piece of crap

rapid mirage
median sundial
rapid mirage
tawdry kestrel
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can't appreciate kino?

rapid mirage
tawdry kestrel
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Your views will ensure season 3 will come and the series will continue to improve.

rapid mirage
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Hope so, I want Halo to succeed, not fail. Good games, more games, good shows, good movies, good books. Let's go. Most of us are rooting for Halo, hopefully the criticism leads to positive change that everyone will benefit from.

median sundial
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i am a little tired of waiting for good in this series/franchise.

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it seems we always have to 'wait for it to be good'

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verus it just being a good product to begin with

tawdry kestrel
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Also a lot of the people watching it don't play the games

rapid mirage
rapid mirage
median sundial
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yeah sort of cringe it's new fans calling people fake fans lol

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that's crazy

tawdry kestrel
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Who called anyone a fake fan

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It's mostly just capital G gamers complaining

rapid mirage
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It's been going around.

subtle crystal
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I've been called a fake fan couple times.

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It was because I like the show but haven't played the games.

tawdry kestrel
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🤷‍♀️ maybe it's the people like me who played all the games and love the show anyway

rapid mirage
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You're probably in the minority. @tawdry kestrel

tawdry kestrel
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Not sure, could be a vocal minority who hate it given that the show is doing numbers

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Also some of the people who "hope it gets canceled" don't seem to realize that if it gets canceled we will never get another halo tv show, nevermind that bringing in new blood to the franchise who have never played the games will increase interest in the next halo game

median sundial
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well that's sort of misleading because the show get's numbers because a lot of the halo fan critics watch it to either A. laugh at it, B. hope it becomes better.

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and then theres the non-halo fans who watch it

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of course

rapid mirage
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Yeah, theres no way to judge why people are watching it from the watch minute totals.

median sundial
#

it's sort of a bad metric to say "it gets numbers so it's well recieved"

subtle crystal
median sundial
#

i mean it's halo ofc it's going to get numbers, bad or good.

rapid mirage
#

Yeah. Halo 2 and 3 were massive cultural phenoms. The show was gonna get watched no matter what.

stark mango
#

do u think there will ever be a huge Halo film like Dune?

rapid mirage
#

People have been waiting haha

tawdry kestrel
median sundial
#

...

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Critics don't mean youtubers bro

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Anyone who dislikes the show and is casually watching could be a critic

tawdry kestrel
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If I trusted the gamer YouTube sphere to be an accurate reflection of most people's opinions I'd get very concerned about racism

rapid mirage
subtle crystal
rapid mirage
#

RT isn't reliable.

median sundial
#

Put it like this, despite Halo Infinite being a basically over glorified beta at launch it had historic player retention at it's beginning. That has to be because of it's name, Halo is just a popular franchise.

subtle crystal
#

And YouTubers are?

rapid mirage
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Yes.

subtle crystal
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Lol, ok.

tawdry kestrel
subtle crystal
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Please try to claim people like Mint blitz are reliable on #general-chat , should be amusing

rapid mirage
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Sites like RT are notorious for manipulating data. People get paid to leave good reviews, etc. On YT, you're listening to a real person give their opinion.

tawdry kestrel
#

mint quitz*

subtle crystal
#

Are you kidding?

rapid mirage
#

Mint is probably solely responsible for Halo Infinite getting better lol.

tawdry kestrel
rapid mirage
tawdry kestrel
subtle crystal
subtle crystal
rapid mirage
#

Say what you want, but he has influence with some people at 343. But regardless, who is gonna pay for bad reviews? lol

subtle crystal
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I guess you were right, adding stuff to context does contribute to the convo

bitter ginkgo
#

Ill say negative stuff no charge

rapid mirage
#

Stop being condescending and just talk jeez.

subtle crystal
rapid mirage
#

Always gotta jab.

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They're gonna pay for that?

subtle crystal
#

You'll be surprised what people will pay for..

rapid mirage
#

Is there a Halo Elon Musk funding a propaganda campaign to tank the show?

subtle crystal
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And, some people also earn from non-financial goods

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Some just do it for the sake of community's goodwill, engagement (likes/comments), etc.

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I really don't have to explain to you the hate bandwagon

rapid mirage
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That def happens. I won't refute that. Hate watching is def a thing.

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But I just don't see that from the main Halo YT crowd. I see genuine disappointment.

subtle crystal
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If you'd be a halotuber and need to put out a video about the show rn, you're not gonna say nice stuff mostly.

rapid mirage
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Maybe I'm an outlier. I try to be fair.

bitter ginkgo
#

When so much of the plot relies on lying to Jimmy

rapid mirage
#

I try to give credit where it's due.

subtle crystal
#

And that whole thing is while I go with the idea that YouTubers are reliable at all, more than critics

stark mango
#

installation 00 is usually pretty laid back and mellow about halo stuff he's a nice youtuber to check in on

rapid mirage
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Let's say you're promoting the show and you say, there's something there for everyone. "Halo is for everyone" right? That's what they said. What is in the show for hardcore fans who have been here for 20+ years?

median sundial
#

I don't mind the alternate universe.. if it was written well.

rapid mirage
#

Agreed.

median sundial
#

This just seems like the Dollar Store version of Halo

rapid mirage
tawdry kestrel
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oh god he likes fan service

subtle crystal
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I called it "the hate bandwagon" for a reason, if you like the show or some part of it, odds are you're not gonna risk going against the vocal minority and lose views and likes.

rapid mirage
#

Oh god totally dodges the question even though he knew what i meant. Cmon.

median sundial
#

I've seen youtubers glaze the show?

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One that comes to mind is Covenant Canon

subtle crystal
rapid mirage
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Something in the show where die hard fans go "heck yes, this is halo," something that they can sink their teeth into and get excited about.

subtle crystal
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The fall of reach? Idk, I'm still trying to figure out what specifics you mean by "fan service"

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That's also true, if you're one of that kind you're probably not gonna be open to something that isn't basically copy&paste of the games's cutscenes

tawdry kestrel
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He wants rogue one halo edition

rapid mirage
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I think it was just a bad decision. The show is the first REAL foray for Halo in mainstream film/TV with a big budget, big studio and instead of adapting source, they departed. It would be like Marvel starting with What If instead of the Infinity Saga. Doesn't make any sense.

median sundial
#

Well yeah, remember when we were going to get a Steven Spielberg Halo movie? What could have been.

rapid mirage
#

They should have played it safe to start. Eat up the success, then do spinoffs of alternate stories and timelines.

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I guarantee it would have worked wayyyyy bettter.

subtle crystal
#

Honestly, I can respect every opinion as long as it's being said in a respectful and not childish way

rapid mirage
median sundial
#

I really hope the Fallout show is really good so it just shows how bad the show makers screwed up.

subtle crystal
#

And there's the whole "civil and constructive" thing which exist mostly to make sure you prevent a wave of "THIS IS DOODIE DOODOO" which has zero actual feedback and the only thing the suits will understand is "welp they don't want halo shows"

median sundial
#

You can do your own story, as long as that story is good.

subtle crystal
#

In the last 30 min alone there are multiple examples of good negative feedback and bad negative feedback lol.

rapid mirage
median sundial
#

Oh well, then there we go.

rapid mirage
#

Trailer actually looks great so that "not for fans" line is confusing.

median sundial
#

We're in a universe where adaptations are just skins of our favorite IPs.

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That's so crazy and mind boggling for me.

rapid mirage
#

He said "it would be foolish to try and please fans." lol

rapid mirage
subtle crystal
rapid mirage
#

That's disenguinous.

subtle crystal
#

The fallout fanbase is almost as unhinged as the halo fanbase

rapid mirage
median sundial
#

The Halo fanbase is only unhinged because we've been given false hope for years.

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Yeah!

rapid mirage
median sundial
#

Original story which was massively successful, that show basically revived the game.

subtle crystal
median sundial
#

But Halo already did a anime adaptation I believe

rapid mirage
#

Legends

median sundial
#

Halo Legends, which surprising was made by 343.. So they know what their audience likes..?

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So the show is even more confusing.

rapid mirage
#

And Forward Unto Dawn...

median sundial
#

Forward Unto Dawn was a little boring until the ending to be honest.

#

I liked how they portrayed Lasky though.

rapid mirage
#

I loved it. Made me like Lasky even more when I played H4.

median sundial
#

Well to be fair, Halo is very cinematic. It could have worked really well given the writters and the show makers respected the content they were given to adapt.

stark mango
#

the ending of forward unto dawn is pretty cool im always itching for fleet scenes

obtuse minnow
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Becuase a lot of people would say: Its a show for kids.

median sundial
#

The issue is they wanted to imprint their own forumla and style to the show, which obviously in my opinion isn't going well.

rapid mirage
#

Forward Unto Dawn was proof on concept that you could make a Halo story that didn't focus on Chief or have to tell the story exactly as it was in the game. Felt like Halo, sounded like Halo. It worked and most fans liked it. So it CAN be done.

tawdry kestrel
median sundial
tawdry kestrel
median sundial
#

Actually I remember specifically Edgerunners was pulling people who were just anime fans to watch it.

tawdry kestrel
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I think the propwork and cgi takes up like 90% of the budget

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Given that most of the sets, especially in season 2, are props

stark mango
median sundial
#

I really feel like the reason the face of Chief is shown 24/7 is because it's in the actors contract. I mean get your bag, but let's not pretend like it's for you to "portray facial emotions" jimmy rings.

tawdry kestrel
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I think the lack of armor is a mixture of that being convenient and also it's a major plot point (ONI wants chief dead following the first season)

rapid mirage
obtuse minnow
tawdry kestrel
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Personally I don't mind his face being shown as someone who read the nylund trilogy

rapid mirage
#

Yeah we talked about that last night. The show can still make a lot of this stuff pay off and make the journey worth it, but they gotta nail it.

median sundial
rapid mirage
#

I think at that time, they were supposed to be 16.

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or about that.

median sundial
#

During FUD they weer 14

tawdry kestrel
#

I hated fud as a kid and still don't like it

median sundial
#

were*

rapid mirage
tawdry kestrel
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I don't like fud, I don't like nightfall

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I like the TV series

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FUD and nightfall come across as tacky and boring idk

stark mango
#

the tv series looks a lot better in most ways you can tell there is more money involved plus it's many years later in real years

subtle crystal
#

I was talking earlier/yesterday (depending on your timezone, I guess) about how the further the show goes, the more I'm getting convinced its supposed to sort of be an origin story to the Chief most of the fanbase knows.

tawdry kestrel
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Like, I'd never show fud or nightfall to anyone who isn't a hard-core halo fan. I've shown the Halo tv series to my mom and she likes it

obtuse minnow
median sundial
#

A Halo movie

obtuse minnow
tawdry kestrel
#

Forward Unto Dawn

subtle crystal
#

It also make sense in a lot of the choices they made, like giving that Chief a team but having him losing all of them one way or another - so he's getting that fear/need/will to work alone because he doesn't want to put more Spartans in that place.

obtuse minnow
tawdry kestrel
#

The Halo film that went through the Halo cycle (it was hated at first, then over time the Halo Fandom came to like it). Personally I never liked it

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And after rewatching it last week I still don't

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But to each their own

obtuse minnow
stark mango
#

yea he is in this weird zone where he is always lucky to survive but others dont share his luck, so may as well go solo and do it himself without others dying. maybe blue team shares his luck though

median sundial
#

I mean I think FUD is bad other then the ending

tawdry kestrel
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It's better than nightfall

median sundial
#

When they show a little big of action.

tawdry kestrel
#

But that's a very low bar

obtuse minnow
#

Okay.

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Thanks

tawdry kestrel
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I only watched nightfall for the sweet armor set

flat spire
#

ngl I think season 1 intro is better

rapid mirage
chrome hemlock
#

gr.............................

chrome hemlock
flat spire
sly bay
#

i´m excited for season finale

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the only it gets me, it´s the spartans III, they get or not upgrades? they are just marines with armors?

median sundial
fickle cedar
tawdry kestrel
#

What I'd give to have something like the W40K Astartes short, just a really well made vignette

median sundial
#

bASEDDD

fickle cedar
#

It’s just sucks knowing the next episode will be the last Halo live action episode produced until it’s rebooted in 2040

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At the same same time it is cool to think that technically all fan content is canon is some respect

tawdry kestrel
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I really don't mind the series if I put it in the same camp as any other sci-fi show, be a shame to lose the general setting

fickle cedar
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In a realistic perspective, if the series finished and came out first, then the games released some fans would disagree with the games. But Halo has 20+ years of lore for a fictional universe and the show scrapped %80+ of it, as far as we know, then they add stuff that would never happen. (Makee could’ve been a thing, but she should’ve been slaved, locked up and released only to access forerunner content) so as far a sci-fi show goes it would be good. As a halo TV show its bad

median sundial
#

Halo isn't generic scifi.

unreal pebble
#

Hah.

fickle cedar
#

The show is like if in Star Wars Luke was mean and stoic all the time to everyone. He was a Jedi but did sith actions because why not. Liea is the leader of the Empire and Palpatine is Darth Vader. Anakin actually died by Darth Vader.

subtle crystal
obtuse minnow
#

Both intros Are good. 1. Has good visual and Its unique (I don't know how to explain it ...). But intro from season 2 Is kinda touching with sad and Calm music, then when there Is halo revealed that music kinda gives us that feeling of what halos purpose Is...

clear nova
tawdry kestrel
#

^

dense storm
#

Why do they refuse to put the helmet on MC, absolutely baffling, JUST PUT THE HELMET ON

stark mango
obtuse minnow
radiant venture
subtle crystal
errant barn
#

should i watch season 2 or na

median sundial
#

depends

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if you hoped it became more halo, then no, if you expect a slight improvement from s1, yes.

errant barn
#

aight]

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prolly not then

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thanks for the advice

stark mango
bitter ginkgo
#

Season 2 more of the same

subtle crystal
errant barn
#

aight

obtuse minnow
jovial wave
#

The flood is the only reason im invested for the next episode

proven cradle
# errant barn aight

Me personally I was suprised with the improvements that happened within season 2, is it still "halo" probably not? But I reckon you give it a shot.

I pretty much view that the "Halo games" and the "Halo TV Series" are two seperate things and I really enjoy both but that is just my opinion 🙂

jovial wave
#

I like to think of it this way

The mandalorian is unironically more like a spartan than the spartans of halo the series

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I think there was a lot of corporate meddling with the show to save a profit in the beginning of the shows production, specifically tampering with writing to make something budget friendly

Cause theres honestly too much filler that is not halo in any way.

Season 2 is better but, still not halo

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Its just funny how it took the last 2 episodes to start to get interesting

fickle cedar
fierce crown
#

Can't wait to see what emotions he'll display will it be, annoyed, angery, or neutral

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Also did they use a pelican for a slipspace jump or is that ment to be a condor

clear nova
tawdry kestrel
#

Yeah

frozen wagon
#

is the series good?

toxic warren
#

Some like it, some don't. I would always say, give it a try yourself and see what you think. If you enjoy it, cool, if not then easy enough to find something else to watch

bronze yacht
# frozen wagon is the series good?

Watch it. The show has really cool combat scenes with mixed reviews on storyline. However, the show is getting way better. Season 2 has given us more combat and a better storyline.

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Season 1 will be a weird experience ngl lol and very politics driven

frozen wagon
#

Ok I might watch it

fickle cedar
#

Remember yourself now, for you will miss the person you were before watching the tv show

frozen wagon
fickle cedar
#

🫡 May your peaceful soul live on

subtle crystal
frozen wagon
median sundial
#

All ima say is if you're wanting something which has the feeling and certain story themes as the games, you'll hate it.

buoyant lava
sly bay
abstract wing
frozen wagon
idle summit
#

Can’t wait for see halo and flood even though it might be 30 seconds of it

sly bay
#

i just wanna see parangosky proto gravemind form

stable peak
#

It’s pretty much Halo in name only. So far they’ve managed to bungle most of the core story.

buoyant lava
rich jasper
#

whats yalls favorite all time halo weapon

toxic warren
slate isle
#

the final drops tomorrow, how long do u think the episode gonna be

sly bay
toxic warren
#

Not me, again, thinking it was Thursday today. Totally didn't spent 10 minutes refreshing the app 👀

obtuse minnow
#

im always like: okay... today is bad batch, and tomorrow halo.

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but im sad... this week is the last episode of halo... 🥺

dreamy stirrup
obtuse minnow
#

😦

subtle crystal
#

Soon we're bound to enter phase 1, depression

tacit cloak
# frozen wagon is the series good?

The halo tv series is absolutely worth watching its better to experience yourself than taking someone else's opinion on it I enjoyed regardless of what other viewers have said if it has the word "HALO" it's always gonna be good im a true halo fan and I don't discriminate anything that goes on with halo you can say halo is woke to me and I wouldn't care im still gonna watch it cause I love halo games books and movies and TV shows

frozen wagon
tacit cloak
frozen wagon
#

Master chief is a w tho

tacit cloak
#

Yes indeed it is a w in my book

obtuse minnow
tacit cloak
clear nova
rancid niche
#

yo do y'all think halo the master cheif collection is worth it cuz im thinking of buying it sometime in the future

toxic warren
dense storm
opal narwhal
#

hun?

floral spoke
#

What episode made you wanna play halo?

toxic warren
#

All of them

chrome hemlock
dreamy stirrup
#

But then you realize it’s the season finale

obtuse minnow
green void
#

Soon

native otter
#

I still can't get the episode

dreamy stirrup
#

Comes out in 4 min

#

Wait

#

Time change!

#

Yea it’s out now!!

sly bay
#

somebody can lend me an acount to watch:(

violet sigil
#

Ngl, I loved that episode

livid elbow
#

I hope the final episode they finally put master chef in a soda

toxic warren
#

What 👏 an 👏 EPISODE!!!!

slate isle
#

Eh

#

the ending was crazy

#

well guess I will have to wait 2 years

#

it will be worth it

sly bay
#

just finished and what a trash

#

that people have been hating on this masterpiece

#

what a final man

dreamy stirrup
#

Don’t spoil it!’

sly bay
#

no, but is worth it

toxic warren
#

:)

last parcel
#

Staying away from the spoiler chat today is going to be hard

#

can't watch for another 7 hours 😢

dreamy stirrup
#

I had to avoid it for hours too

#

Stay strong, Spartan. It’s worth the wait

granite oracle
#

Oh crap sorry wrong channel

obtuse minnow
#

I Hope you'll enjoy it.

toxic warren
agile zenith
#

Today's episode had the Goosebumps theme playing in my head at times

neat bridge
#

Finally this series is over oml lol

obtuse minnow
white frigate
#

Oops my bad

obtuse minnow
stark mango
#

fun ep

bold dove
#

Anyone who has been crying about the show, watched the s2 finale and still doesn't like it is doomed.

night comet
#

This show has the look of halo but it's not halo

buoyant lava
buoyant lava
bold dove
#

I think people just need to cry to feel better

buoyant lava
subtle crystal
bold dove
bitter ginkgo
#

Same but I would of rather waited another decade, it’s only another halo games lifecycle of waiting

bold dove
#

They just now getting to the Halo, they can easily get 10 years out of this show.

night comet
bold dove
#

If s3 has an episode called "Assault on the Control Room" its gg

night comet
#

Not throwing shade that's just what it sounds like

bold dove
#

There are things I dont like about it, but they dont warrant crying like a lot of these people do.

#

I hate how Infinite added cat ears and is basically unplayable after "big update" but I just dont play it instead of cry.

#

I can go without the Qwan storyline but it doesnt ruin the show.

#

s2 finale was very good and sets up for an even better s3. If you dont like it, go watch 1 of the 100000000000 shows available.

bitter ginkgo
#

I don’t even care about the Kwan story but the way they portray MC, where he’s unhinged because no one respects him enough to tell him the truth of what is going on

chrome hemlock
#

Guys I haven’t watched the finale is it good

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Im about to watch it

toxic warren
#

So good

bold dove
#

That highly depends if you enjoy things lol

chrome hemlock
#

Do the forerunners show up

subtle crystal
#

The episode is incredibly well done

chrome hemlock
#

They need to do the forerunners justice

toxic warren
#

Not going to go into detail about the episode here, for those that haven't seen it. Feel free to discuss in #halo-the-series-spoiler-chat once you've watched it :)

buoyant lava
night comet
# bold dove There are things I dont like about it, but they dont warrant crying like a lot o...

Nothing changes or gets better without people voicing their opinions. That's all they're doing because they care about the franchise that they grew up with and want to see it grow and still recognize it as it grows. Even though this show takes place in a different timeline which is fine, the story just isn't good. there are definitely some good things done in the show but there are also a lot of bad things done that just leave you scratching your head asking "why?" because it just doesn't make sense. It feels like someone is just taking the assets of Halo and just making their own thing, someone who's not even a fan of the original. You can't expect people to like it or just shut up if they don't.

chrome hemlock
#

He’s kinda a d to his team too

opaque cedar
#

why does mc act so differently than the books and the game?

obtuse minnow
#

Different time lines And different stories.

stone cloak
#

I am enjoying the show not sure what else to say lol

stone cloak
storm vessel
#

That's not how adaptations work
If paul Artreides Acted like a bloody thirsty general that would be a bad adaptation too

#

It's why people hate the Evil superman storylines because Superman would never go evil

stark mango
storm vessel
#

I can't give up because there is potential for a halo tv show to take the world by storm like AOT or Game of thrones

fiery lance
fiery lance
storm vessel
stark mango
#

At least season 3 is likely I'd still look forward to it

storm vessel
#

But a long standing series with character development on the same level as thrones I can see reaching those hights

fiery lance
fiery lance
storm vessel
#

Especially right now when the world feels so overwhelming

fiery lance
#

There’s been nothing really since days of Harry Potter, LoTR, Hobbit, GoT …

storm vessel
#

Attack on titan

fiery lance
#

Not really heard of it or seen it.

storm vessel
#

Oh

fiery lance
#

If you’re talking Japanese, then that’s like Pokemon, DBZ, YuGiOh - again, all from a different age tbh.

storm vessel
#

AoT ended recently tho

chrome hemlock
#

Bro should’ve been like vannak

storm vessel
#

I genuinely see Halo as the Space LoTR

chrome hemlock
#

Dune

fiery lance
#

Chief to me is indifferent, he doesn’t get angry, or mad - he’s neutral.

storm vessel
chrome hemlock
#

yes really

storm vessel
#

Dune is about how you shouldn't blindly follow a messiah

fiery lance
#

The show chief was crazy chief.

storm vessel
#

Lord of the rings is Hopepunk

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WHich is what I feel Halo is

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Or at the very least can be

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Both are about facing overwhelming odds

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WHich isn't what the show made me feel

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And also just like the lord of the rings Halo has a 100,000 year history that comes to fruition in present day

chrome hemlock
#

The flood would’ve been wiped out if ancient humans and forerunners worked together

storm vessel
#

Maybe?

chrome hemlock
#

No, it 100% would have

#

The human-forerunner war lasted 1,000 years

storm vessel
#

What you gettin at here home skrittle

chrome hemlock
#

That if the humans and forerunners worked together they probably could’ve pushed the flood out

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Instead they exhausted one another until one was entirely destroyed and turned into primitive beings

storm vessel
#

Oh ok

chrome hemlock
#

Humans used to be way smarter and stronger and never fully recovered from the great regression

storm vessel
#

Yes I even hear that they were more powerful than the forerunners and that they could have won if weren't for their war on two fronts

chrome hemlock
#

Sad cuz the only reason the humans attacked the forerunners was to destroy the first flood invasion of forerunner space

#

They had a chance to contact the forerunners too but didn’t

#

but the forerunners probably wouldn’t listen anyways

#

too be fair

chrome hemlock
#

but damn they slaughtered eachother for nothing

agile zenith
#

Truthfully speaking, for the eventual S3...

I really hope that it gets some much needed filler episodes and ,in general, more episodes than the prior ones; as Seasons 1 and 2 could've used some (especially with how short they are)

amber gazelle
#

Just got done with the Season finale

#

Great final episode

flat spire
#

yeah the ending got me excited

#

for the next season

bold dove
stiff osprey
#

Man that was an awesome ending and now I eagerly await the announcement of season 3. 🤘🏻

dusk arrow
stiff osprey
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My wife also throughly enjoyed this season. So many questions she had have almost all been answered which is fun because now she’s almost up to par.

urban bramble
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The new ep is crazy

night comet
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Over this conversation since you're gonna be like that

bold dove
bold dove
snow moat
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Guys, did anyone know before watching the show that the story would be completely different to the one we know? Genuine question and not trying to spill negative comments here. I genuinely want to like the show but feel frustrated seeing the story torn apart.

toxic warren
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Yes, it was announced before the first season aired that it would be a different timeline

fierce crown
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I knew it was an adaptation but it feels like they just took the idea of halo and a load of assets and ignored the rest

dreamy stirrup
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The end credits say "Based on the Halo Video Game Universe", so they can loosely ignore things if they choose to

unkempt stump
wide zinc
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I hope S3 will be more of a military sci fi than a drama

unreal pebble
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Halo is a drama tho

wide zinc
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they need to get rid of Kwan ha

unkempt stump
# wide zinc didn't even expect a s2 tbh
  • Kwan is a lot less a whiny loser for whatever good it does, and her arc is more congruent now
  • To @unreal pebble : I think Jean meant "less conflict between humans"

Granted, at least the human drama now is about the horrors and moral costs of war

unreal pebble
wide zinc
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yeah man I wanna see more UNSC stuff like we never really got to see the fall of reach or ODSTs

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idk if theres even gonna be a S3

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no one that plays Halo likes this show apparently

subtle crystal
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You mean whoever's left from UNSC who isn't flood?

subtle crystal
wide zinc
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am I tripping or is he sending messages and it disappears

subtle crystal
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Probably triggered the filterbot

wide zinc
subtle crystal
wide zinc
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yeah it was great ngl

unkempt stump
unkempt stump
bitter ginkgo
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Wait he may have a point 🤔

wide zinc
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idk man I slightly enjoyed that ODST ctuscene when they were shot down in the Pelican

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a little more than that one episode we got

subtle crystal
dreamy stirrup
unkempt stump
wide zinc
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glad we got to see a Halo tank ttho

subtle crystal
unkempt stump
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Bro
Spoilers

wide zinc
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oh yea

dreamy stirrup
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are my messages going through

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cause I'm pretty sure I just said

wide zinc
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I see you

dreamy stirrup
tawdry kestrel
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hii 🫶 🫢 CSGOLegendary HypeChief

jaunty zenith
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How many episodes will season 2 have

toxic warren
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Season 2 has 8 episodes

broken sleet
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the spartans in halo season 2 got me feeling like helldivers

toxic warren
keen oak
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Shoot I didn’t realize I clicked the wrong

gloomy veldt
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4 episodes into season 2, the choice to make the camera move about a ton during a fight scene is not a good thing

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it does not make it look better

silent zenith
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I'm not too proud to admit that the S2 finale scared me

wide zinc
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I just don't like how they made Spartan IIIs act like they don't know what they are doing

opaque cedar
tawdry kestrel
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It's a scifi show using Halo world elements, better to view it that way

sly bay
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something that i notice rewatching the s1, was that everybody knew who was john, the marines on the play room, call him master chief, and then keys introduce him, and everybody goes like 😱

unkempt stump
unkempt stump
unborn dragon
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Ngl i think season 2 was wayyy better then season 1 but I still was not good

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From the end of season 2 I am intriuged where a season 3 could goo

unkempt stump
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Here

unreal pebble
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If you introduced me to Master Chieft Petty Officer of the Navy James Honea in a random room aboard a ship, without specifying the "Of the Navy" part, I wouldn't know anything useful about them, and would just assume they're another guy with a load of stripes on his sleeves.

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Chief's a huge dude, but "Master Chief" as a title doesn't mean a lot without context beyond "Otherwise not critically exceptional E-9".

dreamy stirrup
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Yea he’s just a normal E9

unreal pebble
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One of the biggest dissappointments of reality, if you care about silly titles, is that most people with really important sounding titles like "Master Chief" or "Chief Master Sergeant" or "Brigadier General" just look absolutely average, maybe even a bit out of shape.

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:>

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Should probs stop swearing.

unkempt stump
unreal pebble
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Also, the specifics don't matter much to me, I'm just saying, random marines not really caring immediately when they see a Master whatever show up is pretty par for the course.

jaunty zenith
trim basalt
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i hate the race swaping of miranda and jacob keyes 😭

i wonder why they didnt stick to the original game story

subtle crystal
trim basalt
subtle crystal
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subtle crystal
trim basalt
chrome hemlock
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They should’ve made Keyes sergeant Johnson

subtle crystal
chrome hemlock
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He was integral to halo 1,2,3

trim basalt
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and again the story is very different

subtle crystal
trim basalt
subtle crystal
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It's the same character, they're just black colored instead of white

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And the actor who played Jacob did a great job, which is probably why he got casted

trim basalt
unkempt stump
chrome hemlock
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White sergeant Johnson

trim basalt
unkempt stump
chrome hemlock
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I think the story would’ve been 10x better without kwan filler episodes

unkempt stump
chrome hemlock
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Like atp madrigal is destroyed so why did they add all that buildup in the first season

unkempt stump
unkempt stump
trim basalt
unkempt stump
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"american alien centris?"

chrome hemlock
trim basalt
chrome hemlock
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They are probably gonna do a battle of New York

unkempt stump
chrome hemlock
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Look at all the other things they have radically changed

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A human having power in the covenant? (Well relative)

unkempt stump
chrome hemlock
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Still had power over troops

unkempt stump
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for killing herself and her species

trim basalt
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the covenant uprising story is an interesting part of the game

chrome hemlock
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They should’ve went more into it

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Like some random elite finds the oracle and it starts to tell him everything

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Then he becomes the heretic

trim basalt
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rebellion againts one species that have more privileges above others

chrome hemlock
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That’s how the banished grew to power

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They are just the covenant but with no religion and no species class

trim basalt
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i hope there will be a remake in the future that stick to the original game

unkempt stump
# chrome hemlock Still had power over troops

Ahem

  • Truth had Kig-Yar illegally modify plasma rifles to display human letters and numbers to supply to Innies as part of a ploy to find Earth earlier (they were fitted with trackers). The Sangheili who would be Arby (Thel obvs) hunted the Kig-Yar down 'cuz heresy
  • Innies leaked MJOLNIR schematics to the Covies the war's first year

On a lesser note, it was a PoA crewman who was tricked into ratting out Keyes' bridge crew on false hope of being spared - spoilers: They all died and Keyes had to be rescued in Truth and Reconciliation

Now, here, the Prophets in S1's finale talked about using Halo to begin the Great Journey and cleanse humanity, Makee herself included (in light of Mercy's assurance to her), once the unified Keystone gave the coords. One of the most Prophet things to do and fans just...gloss that detail over.

Point being? The Covenant only work with humans on the caveat that it helps them kill more of them.
Just think, if select humans (as depicted in Spartan Ops, Halo Wars, and Ghosts of Onyx) couldn't be (at least recognized) Reclaimers, why not flip the board and make the Covenant use the select few as practical pawn agents?
Not to mention Var (Silver Arby), very belligerent with Makee, implied he was the sole reason she got brought back

unkempt stump
chrome hemlock
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Tbh I’m beggining to think there are only two reclaimers now

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Any human should be able to use any forerunner artifact (atleast in the halo games

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But now it’s seems that only two can

unkempt stump
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Query: What criteria allows certain humans to be designated as Reclaimers while other humans are not, as evident by failed Covenant attempts to access Requiem systems via kidnapped humans?

Query Answer: "Reclaimer" is not a legitimate client species status. Edom [control] reference New Council emergency directives [leges posteriores priores contrarias abrogant] given on authority of [Librarian] and [Didact]. Master Juridical concurrence not recorded [ius nullum?]. Status conferred by analysis of geas [symphonia]. Alert! Substantial alteration of [canonical] implemention of Human [supplicium] detected in [symphonia] scope.

chrome hemlock
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seems to be just plot cherrypicking

unkempt stump
chrome hemlock
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no im talking about in the games

toxic warren
unkempt stump
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chrome hemlock
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the covenant said they saw hundreds of thousands of reclaimers on harvest

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each one of them shouldve been able to use forerunner technology, they were already granted these reclaimer powers

unkempt stump
# chrome hemlock so why was miranda keys allowed to activate things

Fine, I can name names

  • Spartan Ops had Hawk Squad, executed after they couldn't activate some map
  • GoO had Ash/Gamma Company/what other S-IIIs being designated a subspecies or something
  • Everyone on the Spirit of Fire whose name wasn't Ellen Anders was targeted by Trove's constructs
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Those people were what the Waypoint query was about

chrome hemlock
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so why were abilities seemingly random

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its implied that miranda keys can activate forerunner technology

unkempt stump
chrome hemlock
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also what would be the point of classifying humans as the next holders of the mantel, to have the majority not be able to use forerunner tech

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this is just purposely setting them back (again)

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also, as soon as that bloodline with that dna dies, what then?

unkempt stump
chrome hemlock
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the forerunners were obviously not as smart as they proclaimed to be

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yet again part of this might just be rushed halo 4/5 writing lol

unkempt stump
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Two-thirds of these cases are pre-4

chrome hemlock
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i hope the forerunners dont come back in later seasons

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they failed their purpose and dont deserve redemption

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the ultimate failures of halo

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easily the most arrogant species of all of halo

unkempt stump
chrome hemlock
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but damn if the precursors wanted to kill the forerunners, they wouldve

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even the didact had a mental breakdown after realizing that the primordial had insane powers

wooden parrot
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I honestly really enjoy the series, yeah its not a 1 to 1 of the games but, why do people want an exact same copy of what they have already played through

stark mango
wooden parrot
stark mango
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ok are we doing to discuss other people who arent here i dont get it

wooden parrot
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Im just asking, why do people, not anyone specific in general

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Like not even exclusive to halo

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Why do people always want a adaptation thats an exact copy of what we have already seen

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Would it be cool to see? Yes it would, if you don't like the show, thats cool too, but not liking the show just because it isn't an exact copy of the game seems a bit dumb? But everyone is entitled to their own opinions

stark mango
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i dont know ask them im sure they will tell you everyone is loud on internet

subtle crystal
stark mango
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ok lets have the 2000th fan vs fan discussion

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im ded already rip

stark mango
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be careful thats a spoiler 😛 meant for other channel

jovial hedge
stark mango
jovial hedge
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How about how good the second season is compared to the first though

stark mango
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it improved a ton i enjoyed much of season 2

jovial hedge
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Like can we just annex the first season and call the second season the first and tell paramount+ that they owe us a second season right now?

stark mango
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ive deleted season 1 from my brain already it helps

jovial hedge
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There was a first season? I though the show started like the games with online only in 2

mild parcel
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S1 was better. S2 didn’t make me laugh as much

stark mango
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u are chaotic like jack sparrow

mild parcel
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YAR HAR

bitter ginkgo
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Cmon coin flipping ability is a laugh riot

mild parcel
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Let me put it this way. There wasn’t a scene like in S1 where Cortana had to Windows-XP-shutdown Chief because he was on rage mode

bitter ginkgo
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He might as well be Jack Sparrow with the coin

subtle crystal
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Bruh, move to the spoilers chat, come on

jovial hedge
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His sensoral perception is so high that he can see the coin flipping and knows how many flips it will do before it lands

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That's why he can always call the side

bitter ginkgo
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Damn doesn’t even need an AI

jovial hedge
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That's why when he has Cortana he is so deadly

still oxide
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I think it sucks that he takes of his helmet

jovial hedge
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She can do the rest of the stuff that he isn't already doing

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He takes his helmet off all the time in the game

still oxide
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but we have not seen his face

jovial hedge
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the only reason that you never see his face in the game is because Bungie wanted you to superimpose yourself over him

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So that you were the Master Chief

bitter ginkgo
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The show acts like the audience doesn’t have object permanence, if there isn’t a face to watch we’ll tune out instead of just using context

jovial hedge
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It's a psychological trick

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In the game they wanted you to be the Master Chief. In the show you are watching the Master Chief

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That fact is why a lot of people don't like the show I think

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They are no longer the Master Chief

bitter ginkgo
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That and Show Chief is unhinged

jovial hedge
bitter ginkgo
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Game he’s pretty cool and collected

jovial hedge
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He rode a bomb through space to blow up a carrier

bitter ginkgo
still oxide
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that makes him cooler

jovial hedge
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He was pissed when he did that

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Like you would have to be really pissed off to do something that crazy

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And tell me he isn't unhinged a little bit everytime he looks at someone and says "I need a weapon"

still oxide
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and drives into a plane in halo 3

bitter ginkgo
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I think it’s just simple as. I need a weapon not much more to it

jovial hedge
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Naa he has anger in his voice when he says that

bitter ginkgo
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Trippin

jovial hedge
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Chief being unhinged is why he's the Chief

still oxide
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He's probably is annoyed that he has to do so much killing

jovial hedge
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I feel he revels in it

still oxide
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Sure, but, wouldn't you get sick of it

jovial hedge
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I am not the Chief

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He was stolen and programmed to do one thing, kill humanities enemies

still oxide
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gess your right

jovial hedge
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And he is damned good at it

still oxide
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correct

gloomy veldt
cunning kestrel
# gloomy veldt man

Personally I would give it a 10/10 only because it was a very good try.

I watched every episode till now, but this was BETTER than NOTHING

cunning kestrel
# gloomy veldt man

If you don't like irl maybe you should watch this. This is a better battle plot than Halo TV series but it's still an animation, not irl stuff

gloomy veldt
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ive seen it, it was good

cunning kestrel
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It's still underrated imo

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It should have had more views

unkempt stump
shy glen
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I would argue, that Season 2 is worse than season 1

cunning kestrel
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Gta v is bad compared to gta san andreas and gta iv but it's still better than nothing

meager linden
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its weird how quiet this chat is

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like why this chat exist if the one two steps below exists ?

unkempt stump
unkempt stump
median sundial
unkempt stump
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Goes for you too, @median sundial
Can't stand this song and dance of
"It sucks (lists nonspecific or ill-explained rubbish)" followed by "It rocks/You're too harsh (full review/reason compilation dismantling the less significant perceived issues while having own critique)"

median sundial
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explaining it is tiring when no matter what people dismiss legit arguments against opinions of the show

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you act as if people here don'

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t provide good explanations lol

unkempt stump
unkempt stump
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There was Eden in the spoiler chat going on about the son subplot while admitting it connected better

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additionally
"Against show opinions" or "against show fans?"

obtuse minnow
unkempt stump
obtuse minnow
unreal pebble
unkempt stump
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YouTube you meant

bold dove
# subtle crystal Ok, and?

Typical goofball response. "Give me one good reason." gives him the reason. "Ok,and?"....like wtf "they cries racism. Can't wait for Mark Walberg to play MLK.

unkempt stump
unreal pebble
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Nick Fury.

unkempt stump
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This Keezz lacks the iconic buzz cut look - so did Ultimate/MCU Fury

bold dove
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Someone mentioned the Halo Keyes should have played Sergeant Johnson, maybe. However I was just pointing out the moronic response Dusk put out by asking to give a reason, so someone did and he didnt like it so he cried racism. I thought this Keyes did pretty good job, doesnt change that the game Keyes was white though.

stark mango
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I liked Keyes actor a lot, he can act as Keyes or any character he wants but the character Keyes story was pretty bad and with a goofy "ending", I prefer normal Keyes story for sure I mean what else can beat mentally fighting against a flood protogravemind and gradually having all memory and identity erased and claimed that is such a sad story

That actor would have been sick as a Sgt Johnson / Sgt Alpone type

subtle crystal
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Jacob and Miranda's actors did a great job playing their roles and claiming they should've been played by white actors for the sake of "I don't like that they're being played by black actors" is blunt racism, simple as that (:

mighty yew
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Lets drop this topic

warm gust
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Mckee was being held against her will, under armed guard. she was not free to leave. There is absolutely no scenario EVER where someone in that position can ever consent to relations with their captors. Period, end of story, not up for debate (don't even try). You just cannot consent when you are being held captive like that, let alone with the first soldier that interrogated you.

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They wanted to mix up the "halo formula" so much that they totally missed the forest for the trees.

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pretty disgusting.

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Crap like that is among the worst war crimes that happen.

toxic warren
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Wonder when they'll announce the Blu Ray version of Season 2 and if it will have any cool extras or steel book like Season 1. Definitely going to pick it up

frank copper
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Time will tell. If it's the same time frame of season 1, it should be out between October or November of this year for DVD and Blu-Ray.

whole blade
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(DeepL translation) Is there anyone like me who likes Cortana in Season 2? And maybe even that I like Cortana more in Season 2 than in Season 1?

unkempt stump
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What native tongue you speaking

whole blade
obtuse minnow
obtuse minnow
unkempt stump
whole blade
whole blade
worthy breach
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why is half of the series master cheif being naked

dense jewel
worthy breach
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you do you ig

toxic warren
obtuse minnow
dense jewel
obtuse minnow
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Good HypeChief

subtle crystal
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Ah neat

unkempt stump
obtuse minnow
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👍

unkempt stump
# obtuse minnow 👍

Imagine S1 without all that gratuitous blam, dead-end side plots, and perhaps even Chiefy taking his helmet off an ep or two later like Bathurst told WaPo

wide zinc
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yeah taking off helmet and changing his origin story

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that mf would die for humanity not throw a tantrum and take off his helmet

unkempt stump
unkempt stump