#lore-and-universe

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split flax
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They’re also bigger in reach.

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We all know the halo games aren’t consistent at all though so.

proud steeple
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why tf didn’t lock’s team shoot the master chief

steel stone
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In Reach you dont play as Chief just Spartan 3s wearing the armor, Elites id say are the same height as Halo 3s version

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I like the fact I have to look up at an Elite in Halo Reach its perfect

proud steeple
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aaaaaaawoooloooloooloooolooo

fast falcon
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I think it’s a little balanced out by Chief probably holding back, and Locke likely having spent a lot of time analyzing and studying his combat style. Still, it seemed a bit sluggish

proud steeple
fast falcon
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They wanted to watch the show

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Also they likely trusted Chief to handle it. He usually handles it

proud steeple
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sorry i meant lockes team

fast falcon
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Probably similar reasons. Locke was the specialist meant to restrain him and would’ve studied his moves, and they could’ve gotten in the way(especially since Chief already was able to turn around the stun device on him)

split flax
fast falcon
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That’s the best way I can reason it

unique rune
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The Chief v Locke fight is bad because it’s poorly choreographed, not because Locke should have died if Chief breathed in his general direction.

I’m not gonna deny that the S-IIs are better than S-IVs, because canonically they are but this fandom way overhypes the S-IIs while severely underselling the -IIIs and -IVs

fast falcon
split flax
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You can’t tactic your way out of a sledge hammer to the face.

fast falcon
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You can if you’re wearing some of the best armour humans can make

split flax
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Ah point taken, Gen 2 armor.

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I agree in the holding back as well, as they didn’t want to kill each other.

fast falcon
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Yeah, the hardest either of them probably went was the hit that cracked Chief’s visor

steel stone
steel stone
narrow haven
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What’s the covenant calendar.

split flax
narrow haven
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Thx that’s pretty neat

north mural
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This one's containment.. and this one's Great Journey. are the same. Your Prophets have promised you freedom from a doomed existence, but you will find no salvation on this Ring. Those who built this place knew what they wrought. Do not mistake their intent, or all will perish as they did before

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the gravemind is legit a lyrical genius

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why didnt he become a song writer instead of tryna invade the whole universe

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oh well

ashen abyss
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There is a Craig band, so Gravemind is feared to compete them.

versed helm
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Are we allow to talk about the campaign ending or no

visual fox
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I have an interesting what if scenario

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So we know how the Keyship from High charity was originally supposed to go to earth and how Mendicant Bias stowed away on it to help humanity

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What if instead of crashing on the prophets homeworld Mendicant actually made it to earth

versed helm
north chasm
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Xytan Jar'Wattinree and fleet vs Atriox and the Banished. Who would win?

tough yarrow
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How are SPARTAN IV's chosen? Like I know unlike the first I and II they're already fully grown adults. Do they need to be naturally extremely tall as a pre-requisite to be chosen for SPARTAN training?

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I guess I always assumed the children that became I and II SPARTAN's were experimented on to give them their height

fast falcon
fast falcon
split flax
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Chosen as well, but more of a asking than a telling. Who would turn away being a Spartan? No one.

celest abyss
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I used to be semi-into HALO lore a while ago, but I forget...
Didn't Halsey kidnap a bunch of children (including young chief) to make Spartans?

prime creek
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I'm surprised that there weren't rich people who dipped out with small crews to go hide on uncharted worlds or something when the Covenant started obliterating human colonies

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I'd be tempted to try such a thing in a scenario like that lol

fast falcon
split flax
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ONI did the kidnapping, when the truths started coming someone was needed to take the blame and fall, Halsey was that answer.

prime creek
split flax
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It’s just standard for the military. You always needed someone to point a finger at.

fast falcon
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That’s standard for lots of groups lol

prime creek
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an escape goat

leaden cypress
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Since mendicant bias was infected, would a fraction or piece of him still be normal and not infected with the virus that made him turn?

split flax
leaden cypress
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Are you sure?

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You sure your thinking about offensive bias?

split flax
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@leaden cypress No, Mendicant is a good guy.

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He’s been trying to atone for his sins pretty much.

leaden cypress
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._.

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But, the virus, the flood,

split flax
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Yes, the past.

leaden cypress
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That has led to only what? 10 years ago?

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When the flood was stopped

split flax
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The flood was stopped millions of years ago.

leaden cypress
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Nonono

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Chief defeated flood one

split flax
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Yes, after they where let out by accident.

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By the humans.

leaden cypress
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🤔

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Would the virus be worn out?

split flax
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Virus be worn out huh?

viral tree
leaden cypress
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It's a virus, for an ai, not a human

leaden cypress
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Did you not know?

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Captain keyes

split flax
leaden cypress
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That poor bastards did it

split flax
viral tree
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I really need to get my Halo lore straight dang

split flax
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@leaden cypress the logic plague isn’t a actual plague. It’s a terminology for when the flood attack and subvert a AI.

leaden cypress
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Riiiiight

calm sparrow
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How many Spartan III's are left?

split flax
calm sparrow
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Oh right, Jun

split flax
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As for SII’s, about 20 are believed to be alive.

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Blue team.
Red Team.

MIA: Grey and Omega.

calm sparrow
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Are the spartans in infinite multiplayer spartan V's?

modest quarry
visual fox
mental plover
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But they locked down the place afterwards-

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So,

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Oh right

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Captain Keyes let them out, again

visual fox
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^

mental plover
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The Flood is never truly gone-

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Their consciousness permeates the galaxy- Even after the Rings fired.

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We were led to believe the flood culminated itself and gave the Ark it’s all. Then died when Installation 04s replacement was fired prematurely-

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Not so!

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Lore before Halo Wars 2 Awaken the Nightmare revealed that there were still flood contained on the remaining Installations and Shield Worlds.

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Potentially, the Flood could have found a distant planet to wait on.

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Patiently waiting like they have before to strike out against the unsuspecting Orion arm-

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Converting a colony ship, surveyor ship- Whatever.

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They are inevitable.

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... And what was will be...

Everlasting...

calm sparrow
mental plover
eager cave
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Halo lore is best lore

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Bruh theres no timer in this chat?

oak oar
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||quick question are the endless and precursors the same thing?||

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now that i think about it were precursors cannon?

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they mustve been, cos mendicant got the logic plague from the primordial

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havent looked at halo lore in a while so idk if anythings changed

eager cave
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Theres so many books and comics its insane

sullen ridge
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precursors are canon

oak oar
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yeah i thought so

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for some reason thought something changed

regal helm
glacial oracle
modest quarry
visual fox
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|| You know I was in the camp that the endless wasn’t precursor ||

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However when I looked back on it the Primordial was immune to the firing of the halo array

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||It’s stated multiple times the endless are also immune to the rings ||

glacial oracle
sullen ridge
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they’re on a shield world

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as mentioned in the rion forge novels

glacial oracle
# sullen ridge they’re on a shield world

The one series I haven't kept up with entirely.

At any rate I dont believe they will be connected as the Librarian wouldn't allow them to be trapped and even if so they wouldn't be called the 'endless' as well... as the forerunners discovered first hand they have a end.

visual fox
ashen abyss
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So is there a way to know what happened between Halo 5 and Halo Infinite?

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Excluding Halo Wars 2

sullen ridge
ashen abyss
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Shadows of reach? A book?

sullen ridge
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yep

ashen abyss
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Well nice

sullen ridge
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bad blood or new blood don’t know which of the 2 it was

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also a book

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that’s more events directly after 5

ashen abyss
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I heard in one of the UNSC recordings in a FOB that Master Chief was at Reach before this

ashen abyss
fast falcon
sullen ridge
ashen abyss
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Ok then that's my next stop

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So is Infinite going to get DLCs for campaign or it is the next game?

fast falcon
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I think DLC

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Seeing as Infinite is intended to be the base that Halo will work from for like a decade

ashen abyss
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So they are just going to release DLCs to Infinite narrating the story happening in Zeta Halo.

fast falcon
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Possibly, I don’t think anyone is certain yet

pallid raft
visual fox
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Hiddenxperia released a video on the lore and how the next Part of the Campaign is going to be called “Halo Infinite: The Endless”

visual fox
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(Most likely)

valid hemlock
finite laurel
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so

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guilty spark is dead

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or in a new body?

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like a promethean soldier body?

night flax
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Yep

drowsy mesa
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He's alive, inside an Soldier's body

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Guarding a very special place

fiery chasm
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What place?

versed helm
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Can we talk about fan projects which explore the lore? I'm not sure where I wanted to share this, but HaloFollower is making a video that explores what if Noble 6 was alive and sent to hunt Blue Team instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q71il33HS6U

I love that we're actually having people explore this, but the expendable nature of the SPARTAN-IIIs and their horrid luck makes me feel skeptical of Noble 6 hunting down four SPARTAN-IIs. I feel like this is a missed opportunity for us to imagine what if Jun joined Six alongside Rosenda and a possible fourth member (preferably another SPARTAN-II that would take Jorge's Place? But there aren't a lot of SPARTAN-IIs that I can think of. So maybe another Headhunter instead.)

fiery chasm
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Maybe

somber tiger
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If it ever,(and I mean ever) happened, I honestly would believe six survived, I could see oni making him high priority since he was a personal reaper for them

gray sedge
left gazelle
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True

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Didn't have to zap him like that

drowsy mesa
drowsy mesa
gray sedge
drowsy mesa
# gray sedge Multiple sparks with

Not multiple Sparks, just one
After his defeat against Chief, Spark began to remember his old life as Chakas, and the fact he has (had) many ancient human essences stored inside of him (including Forthencho's)

gray sedge
drowsy mesa
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Exactly

gray sedge
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Still does not redeem him

drowsy mesa
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But after being recovered by ONI, and left stranded in a wasted planet for three years, he deleted or expelled most of the essences, leaving only Guilty Spark and Chakas

This Spark is now a fusion of these two personalities

drowsy mesa
# gray sedge Still does not redeem him

Just because he killed Johnson and Spark was forced to it because of Forerunner protocol? Unlike Adjutant Resolution, who was spared by Chief and the Weapon after trying to killing them twice?
Or even when Chief doesn't really hate Escharum, despise he killed thousands of humans?

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Or even Thel 'Vadam, or Gray Team?

gray sedge
drowsy mesa
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Just bias, then

mental plover
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Mendicant Bias

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Eh?

cosmic cloud
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Wonder if John can ever beat Atriox

gilded mason
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Sure he can. The environment and context of the battle would just have to be in his favor. For instance, John getting ahold of a rocket launcher.

little pier
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If 343 created a Sangheili language who else would learn it. I know its kind of a random question, but the idea of being able to speak Sangheili is something that has been on my mind a lot recently and I just cant seem to get rid of the idea.

swift atlas
little pier
craggy sierra
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Noble 6 literally does not have a personality or character and Locke already came up lacking in that regard.

So out-blanding Locke would do it no favors.

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And considering H5's script called for him to have more than 2 lines of dialog per mission, it's not a role Noble 6 would be able to fill unless he suddenly developed a personality since Reach.

versed helm
wraith totem
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can anyone draw a map of the production line the banished has on zeta halo? It would be interesting to see where production starts and stops. I really liked how efficient and industrial the banished were portrayed to be

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also, why was the infinity near zeta halo in the first place? I listened to all of the audio logs and I'm not sure if they clearly explained that? I'm assuming it was because they had tracked Cortana there.

tawdry nexus
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Who is the grand edict?

verbal bison
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Some important forerunner after the Halo rings fired

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Is Doctor Halsey British in the new Halo show? That is easily the most cursed thing in the show if the trailer voice is her

celest abyss
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why does the weapon and cortana have such badonkydonks

unique rune
gusty star
split flax
versed helm
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The premise behind him was that he was what the character made him to be, the player.

I thought about this for a bit. Why not do what we did with Halo 3 ODST and have the story told through the characters you fight along side with, the environment and the collectibles? That's something Call of Duty did (sans the collectibles), in fact I think that's what they should have borrowed from CoD. And It's not like CoD's the only game that has told stories through silent characters

verbal bison
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I definitely think it's a weaker story telling device to have the main character be a blank slate, but Bungie made a decision and changing that would be stupid

versed helm
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The only thing that really matters is how it all serves the story it seeks to tell, so if silent protagonist serves it better, sure. If the protagonist is not mute and serves it better, sure. All that really matters is how it make the story better, IMO.

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In the case of noble 6, him being a blank slate for the player. I think it serves the story well, and helps the player to immerse themselves in the story of reach.

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And not for nothing, 343 should really make a spin-off title about grey team.

patent dagger
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ONI try not to spread propaganda and hide important things such as the invasion of Annecy from the public (impossible)

quartz garnet
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Hello just joined, I havent played Infinite yet but wached videos on it

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So any theories or thoughts on the Endless?

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I like that they're introducing a new enemy but I wish it was a bit more unique

modest quarry
quiet grotto
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And then that failed hence, Halo Infinite

leaden cypress
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I reckon she did the same thing as she did in halo 4 when the nuke went off

undone stirrup
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Spoiler much?!

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I’m only part way through the campaign

leaden cypress
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Well don't come here :(

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Sorry dude

glacial oracle
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There is a channel specifically for that.

quiet grotto
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Still, Mickey shouldn't have taken the risk cos there's bound to be some in here

glacial oracle
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Also maybe delete your message so another person doesn't see that

glacial oracle
quiet grotto
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Yea I agree

hallow siren
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Jacob Keyes is probably my favorite character. I love Halo: The Cole Protocol by Tobias S. Buckell

gilded mason
frail copper
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A question
WHY DOES THE ENDLESS HAVE MORE THREAT THAN THE FLOOD?
Doesn’t make any sense, like if the forerunners could contain them and not the flood that speaks a lot of things to me, also the rings were made to destroy the flood so the endless should have been allied to the forerunners o something because they are also organic intelligent beings so the flood could have easily infected them and thus making the flood even worse of a threat, it’s really weird that somehow this Uknown species can actually be worse than the flood who literally destroyed the forerunners

fast falcon
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Big theory currently is that they’re a form of Precursor

frail copper
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I hope they are, it’s the only thing that would make sense to me

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But if cortana still had the logic plague then it would make more sense for her to liberate them or something

fast falcon
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Not necessarily I don’t think

ember crest
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so how do different languages work in the UNSC

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like how do ODST and Marine forces coordinate with each other

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does everyone learn one language?

unique rune
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I mean. English is the standard language for the UNSC.

fast falcon
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The domain likely cured her of her logic plague, and even then I believe the plague was made by the Timeless one, who had devolved into a flood Gravemind type form and didn’t represent all precursors

ember crest
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yeah but there are many different languages in lore

unique rune
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Yeah, and?

ember crest
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and it would be pretty difficult to talk to a german speaking marine while you only speak spanish

unique rune
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Almost every human in the UNSC is implied to know English to avoid language barriers.

ember crest
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thats good

fast falcon
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Also the UNSC would likely have regulations and rules on what languages you have to know for service where

ember crest
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otherwise it would be a cesspool lol

fast falcon
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They wouldn’t be throwing together thousands of troops who speaks a dozen different languages between them I don’t think

unique rune
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It’s like how the Covenant’s lingua franca is Sangheili despite being composed of like 6+ client species each with their own languages.

ember crest
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yeah i just thought of this because of the Halo 3 odst trailer

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the people throughout the vid spoke in dutch

fast falcon
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The colonies all probably have their own dominant languages themselves

ember crest
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yeah

fast falcon
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For example, Hungarian would likely be prominent on Reach

ember crest
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man thats sad

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the odst in the vid prob lost his fam

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since he came from reach

fast falcon
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It’s likely that there’s hundreds of languages spoken among all the planets and colonies, but the UNSC probably had English as the official language of their main forces

ember crest
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man it must have sucked to be a UNSC army soldier

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you defend all these planets and lord hood doesnt even invite you to the war memorial

frail copper
# fast falcon The domain likely cured her of her logic plague, and even then I believe the pla...

Doesn’t really fit tbh, she still went all out and attacked humanity and tried to liberate the endless, mendicant was actually “cured” and in halo 3 he helps chief by stabilizing the ring to let him escape the explosion as he explains that he’s sins are too many and can’t be forgiven but he will help the reclaimer in any form possible
So yeah it’s totally possible cortana was still affected by the logic plague in halo 5 and maybe in a way worse case than 3 or 4, the only thing that the domain cured her was to extend her lifespan so that she doesn’t stay uncontrolled and thus opening space for the logic plague to actually take over and only when she decides to damage zeta halo to prevent the endless to get out is when the logic plague was erased

fast falcon
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Mendicant and Cortana are different AIs, and Mendicant when eventually cured of his logic plague had time to repent on the actions he did and realize what he did wrong, and chose to help make amends

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Cortana on the other hand, didn’t actually do anything that evil before hitting the domain, and wasn’t left alone to repent like Mendicant was, instead basically being a free AI with power to do what she likes(and keep in mind, she was made from the brain of one of the galaxies most egotistical and self righteous people, Halsey)

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So comparing Mendicant to Cortana here isn’t that fair a comparison

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God I hate how I can’t swear

frail copper
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Yeah, still is weird to me that she somehow got “cured” of something that isn’t a virus but more of a ddos attack

fast falcon
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Basically mendicant got cured and looked back and realized “Oh no I did so much bad stuff…” whereas Cortana was started to succumb to it but hadn’t fully, and when she was cured of her rampancy, she realized “I can do so much stuff now!”

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I think it’s more likely that Cortana actually never fully succumbed to the logic plague, and was only really tortured to the point she gave up info, but not close to how Mendicant got turned

frail copper
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It will be a question of how much power they both hold, mendicant was the most powerful forerunner ia
It needed a lot of time to get the logic plague
Cortana was in like 38 days so she might not even get the logic plague if she is equal powers with him

fast falcon
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She’s definitely not equal power with Mendicant, at least not when the Gravemind had her

frail copper
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Yeah, that’s the perfect moment to implant the logic plague

gilded mason
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Human Weakness shows Cortana never got the logic plague.

fast falcon
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I had to search it up. It took Mendicant 43 years before he was convinced by the Primordial to turn sides

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And I don’t think the Gravemind was as concerned with turning Cortana, as she just held the location of Earth, not access to the whole forerunners defense system

untold wasp
frail copper
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And maybe would have been used as bait to do something

ebon reef
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How old is Master Chief?

fast falcon
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49 I think

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Not counting any time spent in cryosleep

ebon reef
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Is he old then? For a Spartan?

gilded mason
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He's young for a Spartan, barring Red Team

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Considering, y'know, the four years spent in cryo

ebon reef
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I'm asking cus in Halo 5, Cpt. Del Rio was it? Calls him an ageing Spartan.

fast falcon
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Yeah that was an opinion held about Spartan IIs by some

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Tbf, they’re not completely wrong. The means of creating Spartan IIs was as immoral as it was effective at making super soldiers, and if im not mistaken some Spartan IIs had sociopathic tendencies and a detachment from others because of their upbringing

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So I can get why Spartan IVs are seen as a much more acceptable replacement

ember crest
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chiefs like 50

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and if we look at Sgt johnson who is a Spartan 1 and in his late 70s

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spartans probably stay young for longer

fast falcon
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Not really

ember crest
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i mean yeah johnson has aged pretty well

gusty star
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Uh yeah really

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I think this was even hinted at in the Spartan Field Manual

fast falcon
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They’re just in far better shape, spend a lot of time in Cryo, and the fact that the life expectancy is probably a lot higher 500 years in the future

ember crest
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halo 2 anniversary johnson doesnt have a wrinkle

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what being a marine does to a mf

fast falcon
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So they’d live longer because they’re far healthier, especially since the Orion program was not at the same level as the Spartan II program

ember crest
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yeah

fast falcon
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So yeah Johnson isn’t that badass just because of that, he’s badass cause he’s badass

ember crest
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johnson is the pinnacle marine

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you dont need no fancy shmancy mjolnir

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UNSC standard issue battle dress works just fine

fast falcon
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Halsey didn’t need to kidnap so many kids to make perfect soldiers. She just needed to clone Johnson

ember crest
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fr

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an army of young johnsons in there prime

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the war would be won in a matter of weeks

ebon reef
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You would loose variety of Spartans

ember crest
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ok

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johnsons better

ebon reef
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Omg Spanish dude Echo 217? What was his name?

fast falcon
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Fernando Esparza I think

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Could be wrong, that’s off the top of my head

ebon reef
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Good dude, panics in stress.

ember crest
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Yep

fast falcon
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Honestly I felt like he was supposed to grow on the player, but he really didn’t on me and only got more annoying up until he was kidnapped

ember crest
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Foehammer was better

fast falcon
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At which point I think he’s just snapped mentally and is full in on the Chief’s mayhem. Poor dude

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I do love how at the end when he picks Chief up, his pelican is just loaded with weapons

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Y’know what maybe he did grow on me lol

ember crest
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Pelicans are badass

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And they are really huge

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You gotta respect brohammer for sticking with the chief

fast falcon
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Not like he had a choice honestly

ember crest
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True

ebon reef
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Who is Foehammer?

fast falcon
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But yeah I admit I didn’t care for him much in the game. His character is fine, he’s just not a type of character we’ve had in a Halo before

fast falcon
ebon reef
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Oh the lady!

ember crest
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She was badass

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Chief probably shed a single manly tear when she got shot down

ebon reef
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Oh

ember crest
frail copper
ember crest
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😔

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All in all being a marine in CE was the worst

frail copper
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ODST is the best a human can become without Spartan augmentations

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I miss them on newer halo games

fast falcon
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Yeah me too

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I was hoping you could unlock them at FOBs as like the last troop type

frail copper
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Wait, in halo infinite I think they said there were ODST in the infinity

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In a dialogue

frail copper
frail copper
ember crest
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I really hope Spartan 4s don’t replace ODST

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I hate the idea of Spartans being mass produced

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Without marines halo just isn’t halo

frail copper
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Yeah, it’s like replacing the imperial guard of warhamer 40k with space smurfs

ember crest
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Yep

fast falcon
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Honestly I don’t mind the Spartan IVs, especially since so far they haven’t really replaced marines en masse and are treated more like special forces

ember crest
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Marines better not be replaced

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I don’t think they will be replaced

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Simply because of the augmentations of Spartans

fast falcon
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Oh yeah of course not

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Marines and ODSTs should always stay the mainline troops of the series. I just don’t mind Spartan IVs as another rank to that

ember crest
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Yeah

frail copper
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Yeah

ember crest
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What do Spartans do after they retire?

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Do they get all those enhancements taken out

frail copper
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Spartans 2 just disappear

fast falcon
ember crest
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Nice

ember crest
fast falcon
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Another went MIA and had his enhancements later removed by ONI so he could live a normal life, Randall

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Locke actually met Randall

ember crest
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That’s good

fast falcon
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And one is currently the head of ONI, but I’m not sure if she was an active Spartan II or a washout who recovered

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Serin Osman

ember crest
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If a Spartan turned criminal after retirement that would be bad

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Lol imagine Spartans trying to buy clothes

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And shoes

fast falcon
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There have also been Spartan IVs who joined the insurrection

ember crest
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Yeah

frail copper
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Also one Spartan went rogue

fast falcon
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But that’s not that strange seeing as they’re still mentally normal people

ember crest
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Spartans can be very dangerous if they go AWOL

frail copper
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It has something to do with Keyes and why he’s gun isn’t loaded

ember crest
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Yeah

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I recall there being a code where if a Spartan is infected by the flood the navy has clearance to nuke the area

frail copper
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Nice

ember crest
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Simply because of how much knowledge is contained in a Spartan

frail copper
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The equivalent of an EXTERMINATUS

ember crest
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Yeah lmao

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Imagine being a marine and the Spartan 4 in your squad gets infected

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Pretty much screwed

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I’d call in danger close x10

frail copper
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You either kill him or die

fast falcon
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And judging by Infection as a gamemode, the UNSC is aware of the risk

ember crest
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Yep

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If the infinity got infected like high charity did humanity would prob be screwed

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Flood could just slip space to earth and then bye bye humanity

frail copper
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Unless halo 3 happens again then they would go to the ark and idk

ember crest
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Yeah

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Floods probably the most frightening thing in halo

frail copper
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One spore can destroy a species

ember crest
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343 can try and create new things but the flood will always be the most crazy

ember crest
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A necessary sacrifice tbh

frail copper
#

proceed to tell the elite that glassing half a continent is bad

leaden cobalt
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Now if the flood were to infect the endless/xalayan OOF

ember crest
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OOF

frail copper
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Yeah

ember crest
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Also government spook in chat

fast falcon
leaden cobalt
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Ayo chill I'm just a hitman😌

fast falcon
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Tho if they’re the Precursors like I hope then they’re practically worse already

ember crest
ember crest
fast falcon
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Honestly Halo Infinite really felt like it lacked something with an enemy like the Flood

frail copper
ember crest
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I’ve been doing combat drops on innies lately

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Fun times

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Only took 60 percent casualties last time so it was a good day

frail copper
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If they are not precursors then they are lame in comparison to the flood

leaden cobalt
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But I rather have flood as dlc tbh

ember crest
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Yeah

fast falcon
ember crest
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Theres a bunch of graveminds somewhere on the ring

fast falcon
leaden cobalt
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So far all we know about the endless is that the Halo rings couldn't kill them

ember crest
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Honestly I’d rather take on the endless than the flood

frail copper
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They were contained I think

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Like the remains of the flood and humanity

ember crest
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Flood is just terrifying

leaden cobalt
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I liked how Halo Wars 2 did the flood

frail copper
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Yeah

ember crest
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Banished just had to go poking around with the flood

frail copper
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They didn’t seem that scary but that brute in the cutscene was recently infected so it’s normal that it has the bubbles in the body

ember crest
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Yeah

leaden cobalt
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Mhmm now on their resume it says "had one idiot release the flood on greater ark"💀

ember crest
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Lmao

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I bet Atrioxed was pissed

frail copper
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Now imagine the banished lost in the ark trying to contain the flood and the spirit of fire so they had to retreat and went to zeta halo

ember crest
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Nothing good ever comes from arks and rings

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I hope the spirit returns

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Massive compliment of troops would help a lot

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And Spartan 2s as well

frail copper
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Justified coop

leaden cobalt
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The reunion between John and Red Team would be memorable

frail copper
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Red team and 117

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Best coop experience

ember crest
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All in all infinite has plenty of potential

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It’s a straight banger

frail copper
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They just need to fix the issues and add the flood somehow

ember crest
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Yep

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It will happen in due time

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I’m just happy infinite didn’t turn out like cyberpunk 2077

frail copper
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Issues being coop and the rest of the modes like forge

frail copper
fast falcon
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So right now I’m just waiting and being optimistic about what they’ll give us

leaden cobalt
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Same

frail copper
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Halo wars open world style

ember crest
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Indeed

fast falcon
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My big dream is DLC a where you play as other people

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Like Locke, Palmer, and possibly the Arbiter

ember crest
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Halo wars FPS would be like war zone on crack

frail copper
ember crest
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Heck let me play as a marine and I’ll be happy

fast falcon
leaden cobalt
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I would hope in the dlcs if we ever find the infinity that we get more vehicles and odsts too

ember crest
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Manage your own marine/ODST squad

frail copper
ember crest
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I like how in halo 5 buck pretty much regrets becoming a Spartan

leaden cobalt
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I actually wonder if they will make another book based on Alpha-Nine since they're all Spartans now

ember crest
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Yeah that would be cool

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Idk to me Spartan 4s looked too scifi futuristic, at least in 4 and 5

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Spartan 3s and 2s were bulky and very military esque like the marines and odsts were

frail copper
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According to lore they are weaker than other Spartans

ember crest
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Yep

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All that futuristic armor doesn’t help lol

frail copper
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XD

ember crest
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I’d put my money on a fresh Spartan 3 recruit over a Spartan 4 anyday

frail copper
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X2

ember crest
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And lockes armor was probably the worst armor I’ve ever seen

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He looked like a transformer

frail copper
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Doesn’t protect a thing

ember crest
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Yeah

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There’s no bulky armor to protect him it’s super skinny for some reason

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Master chief on the other hand has heavy armor plates all over him

leaden cobalt
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Which is why I'm glad that all Spartan IV's mk 7 armor looks tens times better than 4 and 5

ember crest
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Yep

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Halo infinite Spartan 4s look pretty good

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And marines actually look like marines again

frail copper
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When making armor you need to make sure it actually is functional in real life, if it has lots of gaps then no it’s not good, if it reassembled a German plate armor of the 16th century then it’s good

ember crest
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Yep

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Master chiefs current design is simple and effective

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4 and 5 chief just looked too weird

leaden cobalt
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It supposed to be that the mesh suits underneath also protected areas not covered by titanium armor platings

ember crest
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Yeah

leaden cobalt
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But tbh it still looked too sleek in appearr

ember crest
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Fr

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One Spartan 4 design I did like was palmers

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The helmet was pretty neat

fast falcon
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Well Locke will likely get some new armour if he appears again, if that is his armour Hyperius is wearing

ember crest
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And Bucks ofcourse, since it’s basically ODST armor on steroids

leaden cobalt
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I liked Linda's armor design minus all the camera's in her helm

ember crest
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Yeah

frail copper
ember crest
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Vale’s armor was neat too but way to slim

fast falcon
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Tanaka I think had the best armour of Osiris, aside from how her entire stomach is open

ember crest
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Tbh tho if blue team all had variants of the mk v mjolnir like chief that would be awesome

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The green armor has always been my favorite

leaden cobalt
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But it still weird tbh

frail copper
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So like chain mail armor

ember crest
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Pretty much

leaden cobalt
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Mhmm

ember crest
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The undersuit also helps keep hazardous material off the Spartan

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Odsts also wear an undersuit like that

leaden cobalt
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But it gave the "manufacture companies" excuses to not give us the armor diapers😂

ember crest
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Lmao

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Man imagine taking a piss and the mechanism malfunctions in the suit

leaden cobalt
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Yeah I really like the lore behind Mjolner armors from each gen

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R.I.P Spartan 3s tho with SPI armor😭

ember crest
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Rip

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Mjolnir also protects Spartans from falling through atmospheres somehow

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And then landing on said planet

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Mjolnir is pretty much an ergonomic drop pod I guess

frail copper
ember crest
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Yep

frail copper
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Imagine an ODST just falling and then surviving with nothing wrong and he just says something unrelated

ember crest
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Lol

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Just another day in the UNSC

fast falcon
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Like barely a parachute and a bar to hold onto cause their armour will handle the rest

ember crest
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Lmao

frail copper
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The drop pod part of halo 3 ODST was great

leaden cobalt
fast falcon
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Okay imagine this

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An ODST like DLC where you play as a squad of Spartans who drop into Zeta Halo and get separated, each mission from a different teammates perspective

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Literally just make it Buck and his old team as Spartans

frail copper
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Nice

loud fjord
wraith totem
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How did the banished find the infinity?

frail copper
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The infinity found them

tepid trench
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Cool game would be if it like back before human forunner war where you a human soldier left alone on a plant helping evaluate over a flood out break be horror theme

wheat dagger
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Hey guys! Which is the canonical BDU of the Marine Corp?

gilded mason
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All the ones you see in the games

spiral jewel
gray sedge
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Mhmm

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Anyone have any vehicle/armour lore to discuss

unique rune
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I sure hope we get names for the rest of the different Banished ranks present in Infinite sometime soon.

versed helm
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Same

gusty star
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Probably in the upcoming encyclopedia 🤞

gray sedge
versed helm
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Thoughts on this halo sliver timeline for the tv series

loud fjord
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Should have just followed new characters in the main timeline during period where chief could have popped up

main rivet
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Of the available options, "it's just another timeline" is probably better than trying to make us just handwave stuff.

versed helm
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I like how they added new ranks but didn't add the banished vehicles such as the Maurauder, Reaver, Maurauder, Shroud, Skiff or even variants of regular vehicles like the Wraith Invader.

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The Shadow could also be used and it's Unggoy version, the Methane Wagon.

mental plover
ember crest
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CE bdu is now just the reach bdu

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it just depends on the environment

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its the reason Reach and infinite armor is bulky

sinful pollen
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BDU?

radiant berry
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The domain is much like its own universe in the sense that it grows, more and more out of our reach, this could explain why it naturally degenerates because the ways we can access it can only get a Portion of the infOrmation we wish to receive from the domain thus its corrupt. Is this a Possible explanation for this degradation? It also lines up very well with our own real world communication troubles.

humble yacht
versed helm
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Question: So the "mantle of responsibility" is not a physical object and just some ego boosting title?

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If correct then why did the forerunners give a crap about not getting it?

fast falcon
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Because they believed the Precursors were also gonna wipe them out if I’m not mistaken

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Plus the race is incredibly egotistical

keen snow
unique rune
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They used it as an excuse to ensure that they would be the top civilization in the galaxy, suppressing any who had the potential to challenge them.

clear beacon
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This is also why guilty spark calls chief "Reclaimer".

leaden cypress
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Before I knew more about lore, I thought chief was made by the foreunners to defend humanity from the threats from what they hid and from the other species when they become a threat

silk adder
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Does master chief have his genitalia still?

leaden cypress
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What?

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What do you mean by "still"

silk adder
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Well idk

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Do you think he still has em?

leaden cypress
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The guy from halo 5?

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The guy you kill with Locke and save halsey?

modest quarry
versed helm
versed helm
quick slate
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How long did Infinite last canonically?

wise bone
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March 22, 2553 put into service

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And I* think halo unfinite started in 2560s

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So 7 years

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Damn, another 7 refrence

quick slate
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2561 actually

wise bone
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What month?

quick slate
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febuary i think?

wise bone
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Because could still be 7 years lol

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Ayyy, 7 years for the ol infinite then

quick slate
#

Chief ended the human covenant war in 4 months, and the UNSC suffered for 20 years before chief awoke again

quartz garnet
#

So what are the anatomical differences between Spartan generations again?
Spartan 1s were just botched failures
Spartan 2s were like the pinnacle of spartan biology being stronger, faster and tougher than other generations but had major ethical concerns as well as being very limited in the number ONI could produce
Spartan 3s were weaker, slower and fragile than Spartan 2s but still much better than a regular human?
Spartan 4s were like Spartan 3s but much more superior logistically in that adults could become them

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Is that right?

quick slate
quartz garnet
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Was Johnson more uh

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Physically exceptional

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I thought he was just a dude

quick slate
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He is a Spartan 1

quartz garnet
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Uh

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I thought he was like

quick slate
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Forge is the son of a Spartan 1 iirc

quartz garnet
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One of the people that was attempted to be made into a spartan

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But it didnt work or something

quick slate
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He still signed up for the Orion project

quartz garnet
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Spartan 2s could only be viable for the right DNA and it had to be a child, so ONI would track down the children with the proper blood and then kidnap them

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Then make a clone which would die off

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Basically creating child soldiers that would also endure physical and psychological torture

quick slate
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Johnson isnt a failed project, he is an ORION also called Spartan Is

quartz garnet
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So

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He's stronger and faster than other marines

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Or

quick slate
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ORION project was a success in some degree

quick slate
quartz garnet
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idk plot armor lol

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also i was a kid when i played the early games so i didnt think of it

quick slate
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He is a Spartan I

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Along with like 5 others

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Spartan IIs were a massive improvement from ORION project

quartz garnet
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Yeah but they didnt have the numbers

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So they made the Spartan 3s

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Right

quick slate
#

75 spartan IIs survived the training, more died in combat

quick slate
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Spartan IIIs were "disposable heroes"

quartz garnet
#

And 4s were what

quick slate
#

Well they were the "worst" spartans in my opinion

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They were more technologically advanced

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Basically it

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Spartan IVs are the oldest ones i think

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To become spartans i mean

unique rune
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75 spartan IIs survived the training, more died in combat
Only 75 candidates were selected for the program in the first place out of the 300 initially planned. All of those 75 survived their training (unless you go by Fall of Reach Animated) but roughly half were killed or crippled by the augmentations, but some of the washouts were later resuscitated and re-augmented.

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Spartan IIIs were quantity over quality i would say
The “quality” part only really applies to their armor. The Spartan-IIIs were still incredibly capable and well-trained soldiers whose augmentations were on-par with what the -IIs received. They still accomplished missions no other UNSC unit could hope to, even in spite of their cheaper, weaker armor.

unique rune
# quartz garnet And 4s were what

The Spartan-IV program is pretty much exactly what the Orion Project wanted to accomplish It’s arguably the first proper successor to Orion, safely augmenting and armoring up consenting adult volunteers instead of having to indoctrinate and potentially maim children.

quick slate
bright holly
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So what are the strongest spartans

pine kettle
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if the III’s actually recieved augmentation/training equal to or better than the II’s, then it’s probably Gamma company with their emergency steroid enhancements

night flax
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iirc the 3s recieved additional augments when they were combined with the 4s

quick slate
glacial oracle
unique rune
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On paper the Spartan-IIs should be slightly better than other generations due to their genetics.

But I doubt it’s that significant of a difference.

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Every generation of Spartan is a fine-tuned walking weapon, especially when combined with Mjolnir armor.

glacial oracle
unique rune
#

The augmentations of Project CHRYSANTHEMUM are canonically stated to be effectively equivalent to ASTER’s thanks to advances in medical technology.

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This is not something I’m making up or interpreting, this is literally what is stated in Ghosts of Onyx.

glacial oracle
unique rune
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Spartan-IIIs are perfectly able to wear MJOLNIR armor.

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They still received enhancements to their muscules, skeleton, and connective tissue.

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They just weren’t issued MJOLNIR for cost reasons.

glacial oracle
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Unless she is specifically talking about herself as a exception but i would find that strange.

unique rune
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The S-IIIs’ “carbide ceramic ossification” drug had essentially the same effect as the S-IIs’ skeletal implants.

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Their skeletons are said to be nigh-unbreakable just like their predecessors.

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And I mean. Noble Team (anong other special S-III units) were issued MJOLNIR.

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So they’re clearly able to wear it without issue.

glacial oracle
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Not a good source though.

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At any rate is 3:22am and Im going to hit the hay. I think I'll yield on this one because I cant find enough sources to back me up besides from what I already said.

humble yacht
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The only reason most IIIs didn’t have access to MJOLNIR was cost

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MJOLNIR was expensive

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I don’t think there is a such a thing as “MJOLNIR just for IIIs”

tidal imp
#

Headhunters and Noble team for example

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Exceptional IIIs got pulled from their company for special tasks and got Mjolnir

heavy marsh
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I finished the game now i feel empty x.x

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So hyped to fight something worse than the floos

versed helm
#

i hope it doesnt go the destiny route, everytime a bad guy is defeated a bigger bad guy appears

humble yacht
#

That’s called power creep

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An issue that many long running series suffer from

dawn knot
#

"Once you stop a bank robbery, you need the next movie to be grander, like saving the city"

humble yacht
#

Fast and the Furious suffers from power creep

heavy marsh
#

Baseless theory: endless are related to the precursors which means they are related with the floos, next full campaigns will probably have the elites return and an alliance with the banished. Humanitee will prolly tag along with the eternity

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Or the spirit of fire...

humble yacht
#

Elites already in the banished

heavy marsh
#

The friendly ones i mean

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Arby and the gang

humble yacht
#

That doesn’t make any sense why they’d ally with the banished

heavy marsh
#

Becauae of a common enemy i think

sinful pollen
#

Why would the Swords of Sangheilios ally with the Banished and not humanity?

heavy marsh
#

I meant all 3 togheter

fast falcon
#

The Banished are already loyal to Atriox who seems to be working with the Endless tho

sinful pollen
#

The Endless aren't enemies of the Banished

fast falcon
#

I kinda hope the Banished don’t become good guys because I feel we’re just lacking enemies out in the galaxy rn

humble yacht
#

I hope 343 doesn’t forget about the rest of the created

fast falcon
#

Same

sinful pollen
#

The Banished were literally working with the Harbinger and Atriox freed the Endless

fast falcon
#

They’re a decent enemy threat but the game feels a little hollow rn with just the Banished as enemies on the ground

heavy marsh
#

And here i was expecting halo 6 to be battlestar infinity

fast falcon
#

The created recovering and being a weaker faction but still prominent and using the Prometheans would be great to me

unkempt dome
#

why are the sentinels allied with banished?

fast falcon
#

Because the Harbinger took control of functions on the ring and convinced the sub monitor to help her

tidal imp
#

The sub monitor only found out later he was tricked

fast falcon
#

Like right before the last boss fight

tidal imp
#

Once he finds out and talks to you, no more sentinel enemies

fast falcon
#

They don’t appear until Pyre is destroyed either

versed helm
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fast falcon
#

Honestly I was worried they killed him off for a good chunk of Infinite. After how they handled Mdama I wouldn’t have been shocked

versed helm
#

I’m glad that they didn’t kill atriox off because he was a great villain in hw2

tidal imp
#

Atriox has such a hype entry and ‘rise of’ cutscene in HW2

old sundial
#

I wonder if the spirit of fire is going to show up at some point to help the survivors.

tidal imp
#

Without going into Infinite spoilers, I feel they continued that trend of Atriox being a serious threat

tidal imp
leaden cypress
#

They could sure use red team as of major help

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Annnnnd odsts

fast falcon
#

Spirit of Fire DLC is one of my wants

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Have the Spirit arrive on the ring and the mission around learning what’s going on, ending with Echo-216 reaching out to them on comms or something

humble yacht
#

There are at least 2 reasons why that’s not likely to happen

fast falcon
#

Yeah I know

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It’s one of my most unlikely wants for a DLC rn sadly

#

That and being a Banished Spartan

tidal imp
night flax
#

The last book explicitly had the banished killing all their human followers on the arc

tidal imp
#

Then they could have an insurrection-supporting IV who defected or went missing earlier be an opponent

tidal imp
night flax
#

and the banished had a legit reason to hate humanity atm

night flax
tidal imp
#

And one thing that can be pointed out:

fast falcon
#

Yeah I think it would def have to be like a later dlc and probably have some heavy flashbacks to establish this turned Spartan

night flax
#

no way its happening

tidal imp
#

The UNSC made both Spartans and military smart AI to deal with insurrection

fast falcon
#

But an evil Spartan wearing Banished designed gear is just such an awesome concept to me

night flax
#

yea but its so loreshatteringly stupid i reject it with every fiber of my being

#

we have jega

fast falcon
tidal imp
#

The Banished explicitly leaned on ties with anyone before outside the main governments

#

Hating the UNSC for Cortana makes perfect sense

#

The Banished should keep their pragmatic approach to winning

#

Having human opponents mixed in would be a shock too. Explicitly not UNSC though

fast falcon
#

Yeah like I said it would take a lot of set up to make work, but they were willing to skip the whole created war between games to whatever

fast falcon
tidal imp
#

And even then, you’d have to address that ties are still there with Banished

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Which hasn’t been reinforced

#

The Banished connection to human criminal and separatist groups really should be continued

fast falcon
#

A Spartan defectee could establish why the Banished was so effective against the UNSC and especially the Infinity too on the ring

tidal imp
#

The Banished are effective because they use tactics and are willing to experiment and upgrade their gear

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Which the Covenant didn’t like doing because heresy

#

A Spartan defecting directly to Banished doesn’t add up either

#

Insurrection is the only way that does make sense, they are the only ones to have gotten defectee Spartans

fast falcon
#

The fact Infinity was disabled in 4 minutes just bugs me so much

tidal imp
#

The Infinity fell to an ambush ploy using what amounts to extremely precise and honestly near suicidal tactics

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What took 4 minutes of action likely took a lot longer in planning

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Which The Banished, especially Atriox, are known to do

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One of Atriox’s greatest strengths is his strategic mind

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And his pragmatism

fast falcon
#

Yeah that’s fair, doesn’t mean I like it being destroyed so easily offscreen

leaden cypress
#

As long as atriox isn't a boss battle I'm good

fast falcon
#

I’d rather he be a boss battle after a long time, than be a cutscene boss

rose coral
#

Why wouldn’t Atriox be an eventual boss battle? The boss battle formula has clearly been set in stone and I doubt they would skip it with the ultimate big baddy of the banished.

#

Just make him a lot harder than eschaurum

fast falcon
#

Yeah they can use a lot of the elements of Escharum’s boss battle but in a larger and grander arena and it would work for me

#

Escharum’s boss fight was my fav in the game

humble yacht
#

It was ok

#

He pulled a move similar to Tartarus with the shield which was kind of annoying

#

But at least you didn’t have to wait for someone else to remove the shield

fast falcon
#

Yeah remove the shield, make the arena larger and it would be great for Atriox imo

rose coral
#

Dude my heart was racing during that fight. It was so exciting to me. My first playthrough was on heroic.

fast falcon
#

Of course I’d also like to fight Atriox in the middle of a large battle between the Banished and the recovered UNSC

rose coral
#

I’d actually like to see Red Team get a little even with Atriox face to face

#

I’m sure Douglas would like to have some time with him…

#

And I’m sure a meeting between John and red team would be a nice reunion

humble yacht
#

John would laugh and call them repeat students smirkle

rose coral
#

LMAO

dawn knot
#

Slight spoiler for the halo infinite campaign:
||Why on earth can AIs override their own deletion routines||

sweet patio
humble yacht
#

Only certain ones can because they’re special

rare plover
#

I'll mark this as a spoiler bc its infinite intro: ||my friend asked me how chief and 216 survived 6 months in space, did 216 have that much spare food?||

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and to his knowledge ||chiefs suit cant support life for that long||

verbal bison
#

it probably put him into some kind of coma

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6 months doesn't seem that crazy, any longer and yeah it would be a problem

rare plover
#

seems fair enough to me

gilded mason
#

His armor was in "survival" mode, whatever that entails

rare plover
#

what kind of armor is he wearing at this point, Mark VI?

gilded mason
#

Gen3 Mark VI

verbal bison
#

ignore the gen 2 and gen 3 stuff if 343 doesn't have to justify randomly changing chiefs armor they dont have to justify fixing their mistake

rare plover
#

I'll forward this to my friend, tyvm

boreal current
#

Something just occurred to me. For the final mission of Halo 3 why did Chief, the Arbiter and Johnson go by themselves to activate the ring? Couldnt they have brought a phantom/pelican or two as backup and then use said phantoms/pelicans to fly to the Forward Unto Dawn. It would have been faster than just driving to the ship

gilded mason
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The original Bungie plan was for John and Thel to basically go for a suicide mission while everybody else escaped with Rtas' ships, with Johnson appearing out of nowhere as backup to save them. So after that was altered a bit, the main stuff stayed the same, with everyone else already leaving through the portal while they did their thing.

wise bone
#

Master chief's armor always contained the fluid needed for cryo sleep. When you go into cryo sleep (in the books) you need to be naked and drink a liquid to help you freeze right. Master chief's armor does this without needed to be taken off or for john to drink something externally. Im assuming here but do to the specific situation, master chiefs armor chould have forced unconsciousness, made him drank the liquid and made a sudeo cyro sleep for him in space. The pilot just brought him out of a mini cryo sleep.

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Master chief did experience 1/3 of his life in an icebox.

old drum
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Hey so just want to know if I'm the only person to think this but like i'm playing halo 2 right now (on chapter 11 and played reach and ce before) and i feel like all the lore and story lines are really poorly explained, and this may be because of my game glitching and not showing a cutscene (has happened before in halo ce) and i just haven't realized it. The main things i want to point out are 1) In halo ce, they never explain why the pillar of autumn was being chased and while yes in an in universe perspective this makes sense to a player with no prier knowledge (like how the game first released) would have no idea why reach is, what the U.N.S.C is and who the Covenant are. 2) In Halo ce they say that the forerunner built the ring but didn't say anything else about the species like who they are and stuff like that which i fine to leave out but still i would have liked some more info. 3) In halo 2 at the start the covenant go to earth unless they state why later its kinda weird that the covenant just went there just because even if they didn't expect the U.N.S.C. to be there. Anyways just wanted to point out a few things that seemed odd and wondered if anyone else found them odd as well

gilded mason
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Knowing that CE stuff was never really needed for the story, since it didn't have to do with the game's main plot. Basically just gave you the needed info of "Your heroes fled a battle and are in pursuit from alien enemies."

And in Halo 2, it is implied why the small force arrived (not knowing humans would be at their destination), later on.

full meteor
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Ayo am I justified in theorizing that the ISO-Didact can make an appearance later on? Last I checked he went into a cryptum on one of the arks, but lord knows what after that

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Y’know, our boy Bornstellar

gilded mason
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Considering he left the galaxy to live a simple life with his wife and child, a bit unlikely.

full meteor
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Yeah upon research, I am very unjustified in my theory

leaden cypress
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Would the plague that infected cortana justify why she killed earth after saving it?

unique rune
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Uh. Plague…?

leaden cypress
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The one from the gravemind

unique rune
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Cortana was never successfully infected with the Logic Plague

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The Gravemind attempted to do it but wasn’t able to complete the process

opal gazelle
unique rune
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In any case it wouldn’t justify anything. She never “killed” the Earth.

leaden cypress
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In infinite chief said she killed almost everything

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Starting from Sydney in Australia

unique rune
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I’m… pretty sure that’s not what was meant by the line.

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She decimated the entirety of UNSC HQ at Sydney. Earth is still going to largely be populated.

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Whatever the case, no, the Logic Plague isn’t the reason for the Created takeover and Sydney’s subsequent destruction.

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It’s just the result of her rampant fragments reforming into a corrupted shell of Cortana’s old self interpreting the Mantle of Responsibility in a different way than the Forerunners intended and aggressively attempting to enforce it by stamping out any resistance.

modest quarry
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That’s a lot of speculation about subjects that have not been fully confirmed. It has basis, but I’d be careful about stating it as fact. The latter half anyway.

unique rune
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Except… we know for a fact that the Cortana was never successfully infected with the Logic Plague?
Her behavior isn’t really consistent with the effects of the logic plague either, whose effects tend to be pretty immediate even if not always direct. And pretty much every argument I’ve seen in favor of it being the logic plague confuses nonsensical contrived gambling for actual intelligent long-term planning.

And Dominion Splinter is pretty explicit about Cortana’s rampant fragments infiltrating the Domain and taking control of the Warden being the initial formation of the Created.

cosmic cloud
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Are there any novels or comics that succeed the master Chief story in showing what happens after the current time?

quartz garnet
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What does Atriox want?

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Like what are his motivations

split flax
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Infinite is the current newest in the story arc.

modest quarry
split flax
split flax
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We’ll probably get some more in game content or leaks before it gets released though.

quartz garnet
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The halo factions had really cool motivations, the Covenant were religious wackjobs about to suicide themselves and take everyone with them

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Humanity was just trying to survive

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The flood were an ancient evil

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The banished, although I like their motif

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Are kinda bland

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In motivation

split flax
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You play Halo Wars 2?

modest quarry
# unique rune Except… we know for a fact that the Cortana was never successfully infected with...

I agree it’s no the logic plague, it’s too easy of a plot device and would feel lazy if they just repeated the whole MB mirror.

As for the reasoning behind her motives, I think Dominion Splinter did a good job of explaining her entrance into the Domain, but I don’t think it really shed any light on her continued motives. Only that she wanted to protect everyone through absolute authoritarian rule. Obviously if you combine it with the H5 and Infinites story it seems a bit more John centric.

quartz garnet
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Nah

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Haven't played a halo game since reach 💀

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But I've been keeping up with the games

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Cutscenes and stuff

modest quarry
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The Banished have a pretty interesting, if slightly complex, formation. Basically the antithesis of the covenant and their jihad against anything non conforming.

quartz garnet
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Yeah thats what I really liked about it

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But I wish their motivations were more grounded

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Because of that

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Not just mustache twirling world domination

modest quarry
unique rune
# modest quarry I agree it’s no the logic plague, it’s too easy of a plot device and would feel ...

5’s campaign is pretty blunt about the motive being a combination of wanting to protect John as well as a potentially misguided interpretation of the Forerunners’ intention for the Mantle.

Like it spells it out real clear in some of the dialogue.

For eons the power of the Forerunners has awaited Reclamation. Humanity's discovery of the Halos was the culmination of the Librarian's planning. The Reclaimer had come. Your species' ego led you to believe the task of Reclamation would fall to you. Yet humanity were but the Creators. The reclamation of the Forerunner Empire is the task of the Created.

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And then to lay claim to their status as these new Reclaimers… Cortana activated Guardian Custodes across the galaxy in order to shut down anyone who opposed her rule.

modest quarry
neon moss
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Do you guys know how much ammo do spartans usually carry for operations?

glacial oracle
# neon moss Do you guys know how much ammo do spartans usually carry for operations?

That depends on the operation and the weapons they are using. Most Spartans have pouches and clips to carry ammo as referenced in Halo: The flood and Halo Reach.

From what I have gathered in the books I have read it seems that there isn't really a solid number. It varies dramatically and at most it seems Spartans only have a few extra mags.

neon moss
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Like extra 3 assault rifle magazines and pistol clips?

glacial oracle
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In long operations they also may use duffle bags of ammo and supplies.

glacial oracle
neon moss
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Where do they store those ammo tho? Chief’s armor doesn’t seem like it has space for all those mags

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Or are those hip attachments supposed to be where all their ammo is stored?

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Like softcases and hardcases

glacial oracle
# neon moss Where do they store those ammo tho? Chief’s armor doesn’t seem like it has space...

In Halo: The flood it mentions that Master chief uses pouches attached to his armor and clips that tag onto his belt.

Taken from Halo Oblivion it also references...

Grenades are carried either on the belt or in a thigh mounted satchel, as are timed charges and foam explosives like C12 (AFAIK this would correspond to the “Tactical Soft/Hard-cases” in Reach.)

M41 SPNKR tube’s (the rocket ammo) is placed at the small of the back, just above the buttplate. If you and a comrade ever stick together when he grabs the launcher in lore, you’d be carrying additional tubes for when he runs out.

Ammunition pouches are magnetically locked to the chest and shoulder armour, and there’s a reference in First Strike that Spartans further add tape to ensure they stay in place.

neon moss
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Oh

glacial oracle
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yup

neon moss
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So those armor girdles that we see in multiplayer for the chests are canon?

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There were a few with like assault rifle mag holders

glacial oracle
neon moss
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I see

glacial oracle
quick slate
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What was operation Red Flag again?

fast falcon
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I believe it was the plan to hijack a covenant carrier and take it to High Charity to kidnap a prophet for peace negotiations

strange verge
wise bone
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Usually anything that says 343 as a manufacturer i woukd consider iffy cannon. 1, i kinda hate the author in a book approach, 2nd 343 was never a stated manufacturer in a previous game or list of known real manufacturers in game.

boreal current
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Is there a reason why each installation is only staffed by a single monitor and not a crew of them?

bronze perch
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im here about cat ear lore

fast falcon
tired terrace
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There are backup monitors

carmine sleet
heady mason
tepid coyote
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Well In infinite the sub moniter was activated it's more strange how they didn't provide the monitors with another ai to stop them from going crazy

fiery kayak
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Well Guilty Spark stated in hindsight there should've been two per installation in one of the terminals

cunning wave
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can someone explain the extent of what is considered dishonor to sangheili when it comes to medical treatment?

fast falcon
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Drawing blood I believe is the main thing

tired terrace
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Yes

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Any blood spilled out of combat is dishonorable

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Halo 5 has some scenes in the sangheili camp about this

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That are quite good

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Most sangheili would commit suicide if their injuries left them unable to fight

fast falcon
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Thankfully that’s one of the things the Arbiter is starting to help change the opinion of among some sangheili

tired terrace
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Well in halo 5 a medic treating a wounded said “you belong to the arbiter and we cannot lose soldiers even one as inconsequential as you”

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They also said that the warriors of m’damma keep use energy swords that burn less hot

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And are harder to cut armor but leave worse wounds and guarantees any injury is a death blow because of before mentioned suicide

pulsar coyote
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Do brutes have a Heads-up-display?

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Like elites?

worldly iron
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Had anyone seen forward unto dawn I just watched it. Some pretty intense action toward the end. Honestly I wasn’t expecting much for a live action halo production but it was really good I thought.

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Master chief being in it was pretty badass too

ornate carbon
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NEED MORE HALO MOVIES!!!!

forest siren
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is there a reason why elites have human theets?

versed helm
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It is mentioned that pilots use these chips to fly ships.

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The chip is at least in the UNSC the one that causes the IFF of the user appear.

frail cedar
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Can someone tell me why Zeta Halo has a flood specimen in containment

fast falcon
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All the Halos did I’m pretty sure

leaden cypress
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All halos have flood specimen

humble yacht
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Yep

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Well except for installation 09

tepid coyote
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honestly im thinking the harbinger is a precursor re design

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been looking at concept art for the primordial vs the harbinger its pretty similar just scaled down for gameplay reasons

humble yacht
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Precursors don’t have a single set form

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They could mutate and reshape their physical forms at will

tepid coyote
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thats true

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also found this image im trying to find where its taken from

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oh cant send images yet

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looks very similar in shape to the harbinger

gilded mason
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...

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That's the luminoth from Metroid Prime 2

tepid coyote
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lmao

gilded mason
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And it's in the HaloFanon wiki

valid hemlock
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hmm

untold wasp
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who is the spartan in i think halo 4 with black and orange?

gilded mason
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All non-specific SIVs there were steel and gold

unique rune
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Are you talking about Miller, or the generic NPC Spartan-IVs?

untold wasp
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the one in the halo infinite chat that pins posted

gilded mason
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Yeah, that's the non-specific SIV

unique rune
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That’s just an unnamed NPC S-IV.

untold wasp
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oh ok thanks

versed helm
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Where was the arbiter during halo infinite? I beat the campaign and he was never even mentioned

leaden cypress
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On the planet sangheli

versed helm
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Both earth and sanghelios were under the guardians control and thel could've been defending his world from the created and possibly dealing with other covenant remnant groups

tepid barn
worldly iron
versed helm
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Anyone know the population of New Mombasa?

left gazelle
versed helm
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Well I was hoping for like ya know, before that but thanks.

left gazelle
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Google's free

rocky stone
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Google’s free everybody. No one has to talk about anything ever again!

unique rune
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I mean. "what was [city population]" isn't a question that has a very complicated answer.

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Probably would've just been quicker to search up Mombasa in Halopedia, which even then we've never gotten an actual number aside from a vague "millions of people".

leaden cypress
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Youd think that the unsc would have won decimating the covenants entire fleet when they reached earth

unique rune
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Uhhh… no?

gilded mason
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What?

unique rune
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The Covenant have always been stated as having a numerical and technological advantage.

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Even the UNSC Home Fleet would struggle against proper Covenant invasion fleet.

gilded mason
wise bone
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Im happy for the halo tv show but it jerks me the wrong way that it's not officially cannon to the main timeline

leaden cypress
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But earth had am entire fleet, orbital defence cannon stations

untold wasp
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they still kinda got defeated

leaden cypress
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:/

unique rune
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Reach also had its own defense fleet and an ODP network, and it still fell in a matter of hours.

gilded mason
leaden cypress
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Reach wasn't prepared for the fleet they sent

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Neither was earth

gilded mason
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While Regret only had a small exploration fleet

leaden cypress
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Exactly

gilded mason
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So of course he got battered

wise bone
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If the invasion of earth was a giant griffball match then the covenant would have scored the one and only goal.

untold wasp
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they still took out some parts of earth and its fleet

unique rune
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Prepared or not, plasma melts through titanium alloy armor plating like it’s nothing.

leaden cypress
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And yet it doesn't melt the Spartans armour

unique rune
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An ODP network only does so much until they get too close to safely fire and quickly re-aim.

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Uh, no, it melts through effortlessly.

wise bone
untold wasp
unique rune
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Samuel-034 was doomed because he took a plasma pistol bolt to the chest.

leaden cypress
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As you play? Or in a reality check

leaden cypress
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Not a regular shot

unique rune
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…Charged or not it’s still a blob of superheated gas that burns as hot as a star.

leaden cypress
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Yea but it does more damage then it would have if it was regular

fast falcon
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Also ship cannons are leagues more powerful than a handheld plasma gun

leaden cypress
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Obviously

unique rune
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Covenant plasma is a whole lot more lethal than the games would lead you to believe

leaden cypress
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I am aware if that

unique rune
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They aren’t just plinking away with blobs of green goo, it straight up burns and cauterizes flesh.

leaden cypress
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Mhm

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But a mac cannon could put a devastating hole in s cruiser

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Yea?

untold wasp
wise bone
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3 needle shots is enough to fatally wound a spartan 3. I know it's not the same but it doesnt take alot of hurt humans

unique rune
wise bone
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10% the speed of light?

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Will definitely ruin your day.

leaden cypress
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Yep, so a entire side of earth of mac cannons shooting at a small fleet with a home fleet should have devastated the fleet

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Preventing them from at least getting in earth

wise bone
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Shields* they have shields

leaden cypress
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Hmm true

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Forgot about that part

unique rune
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It also takes multiple MAC shots to kill something like a Covenant cruiser.

wise bone
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Thats why the Pillar of autumn had 2 maccannons i believe to pumle the shield and puch thru the deck. Problem was everytime unsc got some leg room, the covies brought bigger and better ships.

fast falcon
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Also didn’t the fleets hold in a safe distance away from some of the cannons while they sent in boarding parties to demolish them?

gilded mason
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Yes

untold wasp
gilded mason
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More that a majority of their own soldiers turned against them

wise bone
untold wasp
gilded mason
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying

untold wasp
wise bone
spiral aspen
# neon moss Where do they store those ammo tho? Chief’s armor doesn’t seem like it has space...

a good way to assess the finer details of how they operate it would make sense to reference modern special operations forces and those dating back to the 40s. there are many similarities in modern SOPs to that of those used over the last few decades. for example.. in the last 20 years, infil platform and enemy composition and disposition dictates loadout.. so GAF (ground assault force) elements run significantly heavier than HAF (helo assault force) and those both differ significantly compared to special recon and other such things... all that being said, id say an exact mag count standard is unrealistic.. but i dont make the lore around here hahahah

silk mortar
split flax
# leaden cypress Yep, so a entire side of earth of mac cannons shooting at a small fleet with a h...

Think of a ODP like a battle ship, good from afar. But once you close the gap it’s game over.
Same for if you’re too far away, you can’t be shot.
Covenant sat outside the “kill zone” and sent smaller boarding craft that the guns couldn’t shoot. Destroyed the stations, and opened a whole for them to squeeze through and cause more damage.

You also have to think of cross fire as well, once enemy ships start closing in next to you you have to watch when your shoot and how you shoot to avoid shooting friendlies.

spiral forge
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I hate and love the fact that 343 has made it official there are spartans with cat ears

gilded mason
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Ain't that just Fractures?

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Or rather, not a real armor piece in-universe, in any case.

spiral forge
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iirc the only cosmetics that aren't canon are the things for the yoroi core. Or maybe not, idk. Maybe it's like the Timmy helmet in H5.

gilded mason
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The description for the cat ears say it's developed by Fotus Industries, which is what 343 uses when the armor isn't real.

versed helm
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What’s up my lore people

leaden cypress
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Not happy cat ears are in halo

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It's not halo

spiral forge
leaden cypress
leaden cypress
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😭

spiral forge
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Although those wackier things like the Peppermint Laughter coating make me wonder where they fit in with the universe.