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Jen (cortana) said she's rooting for Optic to win.
Can we be honest, its gonna be Optic vs Faze for grand finals again
I can just feel it
anyone else getting the deep fried gameplay?
I really liked the community stage so much
Halo
@minor badge heyo!
stream over? or
Last game just ended
I've got like 20 mins left on my drops
SSG is right there and Sentinels has beaten Faze in the past. No guarantees for sure going into Sunday.
Got the autographs under the wire lmao
You good?
just felt like banging my head into my keyboard
i’ve been at the event and been too busy to actually watch the main event lol
Same I was there just to see Jen Taylor and Steve Downes
Is anyone else going tomorrow?
Oh yeah. We got stuff from the new season too
I didn't come autograph, did I?
Lol
How dare you forget >:/
Are Cortana and Master Chief going to be there again tomorrow? I don't see them on the schedule 😭
Probably not
Tomorrow's schedule
I love halo 5 mp
Same
keith david
the damn autographs took the full 90 minutes for me
that had me MOVIN the entire time and i had other things to attend to as well cause im doing media so i want good pics where i can find em
taht and like i keep forgetting who signed already lmao
That line was something else
if anything @somber swift just go up to me, grab me by the shoulder, and forcefully shak eme down to sign the book
Its sad. And i'm tired XD
ok yeah some of these photos go hard
i am deliberately screwing up these crops btw ik what im doin its parrtly so nobody steals raw images, and so ik that these are "unprocessed"
trust me itll save me headaches later but i REALLY wanna share what i got so far
sorry if im clogging up chat some other mod can yell at me for that i just wanna get em out as i make em
Nice photos I hope you had a blast.
we aint done yet
and i took like 700 so far 
we got champ sunday still lmao
Maybe I'll come back in a. Hour haha
more like a few days 
I'd like em to drop this round Robin malarkey and just do groups on a Saturday and quarter semis finals on a sunday. That way they could highlight and fully stream FFA on mainstage Friday. Or any other playlist.
that turns into a bit of a spacing issue and lets be real most people are here for their fave team not some rando dudes in a h5 2v2 or ffa tourney
anyways
That's only down to marketing and keeping the same players in the spotlight. They could easily makes stars out of randoms if they wanted too.
i am especially proud of this shot of Keith
Awesome !!
dude im REALLY proud of this tony pic
Can't wait to see them all :)
Not that I would air brush jen out of any picture but this one would be cool if you did.
Oh that didn't reply to the photo... the one with her behind the sword. 🤦
This is amazing
Hello, not sure where to post this. I have watched the streaming and got all the skins except for the Smellbringer Yoroi. How can I contact 343 for this small issue? Thanks!
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Check all the info noted there
Thank you kind people
I like Halo 5
I played Halo 5 for over 4 years, it was def fun and well responsive (yet too sweaty)
I was this close to get the last level ç_ç
Sr 152 was a real grind in Halo 5
So we still have no idea what the deal with Mark V is huh?
It was great. VIP was much improved. Thank you!
I believe the community stage and side events wrap up earlier as they want everyone in the venue watching the last four series if possible.
What time does the stream go live today?
Ty stckr!
Stckr SSG is going down like a sweet muffin
We'll see!
Optic has been really strong but so has SSG
SSG can’t contain Lucid after what he did last night vs FaZe
I'm excited to find out!
Hey folks! Reminder on receiving Drops!:
Had a few people reach out and say they didn't get certain drops for watching.
I did some checks and found that they all ended up having what they were supposed to get.
Before going to Halo Support, double check that you've
- Clicked the 'Claim Drop' button on Twitch.
- Know what core the item was supposed to show up on
- Know the name of the coating you're looking for
- Confirm that you actually finished the drop progress.
All else fails, definitely go to Halo Support.
Enjoy the show today!
This dude knows what up
For giveaways, it says to have your current gamer tag linked to your account, how would that work if you have two linked?
If you could build your dream HCS team who would you pick for me Lucid, Formal, Renegade and stellur
What time does the event start today?
3pm est
Cool
And finals start at 9pm est
My drops didn’t progress last night
Is there one you would prefer if you won a giveaway?
Dreadbench00
If your tag comes up, I'll add that one then :)
Thanks!
Wait what giveaways?
I see
Lucid, Frosty, Eco, Renegade
Unpopular opinion
8pm EST
Frosty when he hits is amazing, if he’s missing though. He looks like he has no idea how to play halo
Oh that’s right my bad
Fair. Maybe snakebite tbh good obj is key
Formal, Frosty, Snakebite, Legend
no very effective to put Lqgend with the other but maybe it could work at 50%
There is no wrong answer except any answer without Lucid. 😂
Nah the wrong answer is Spartan
Honestly think the answer is Lucid, Stuller, and two more from a list of like ten players.
Does anyone know if the s5 play area has controllers?
It does
Can someone who likes Spartan answer? I don’t trust you 😉
LOL 😂
Flash giveaway in #general-chat!!
So are the drops not working?
Nick dressed as cortana XD
@arctic quiver do you know if theres a issue right now with drops not working in the stream?
Drops are progressing for me
Am at 11%
did they already show off firefight?
They showed a small bit earlier in the stream
Not progressing for me...
Welp i guess I can't get the drops seems it glitched me GG
everything is connected on waypoint
Make sure you only have one stream open. Close it, reopen and then refresh the page. Wait a minute or 2 then check the drops page
was it wokring yesterday for you?
did that still no progression..
Weeeeee
Kinda annoyed here missed the first hour towards it and need a total of six... GG 343/twitch
you only need 3 don't you?
3 for the first set. another 3 for the other
Hello! Can someone explain to me what the grand finals reset is? This is my first time closely watching the championship and am unfamiliar with the bracket system. Thanks!
total of 6
they're all progressing for me at once
The grand final drops don't begin until later on (9EST)
Not progressing at all for me. this is annoying
A grand finals reset is only if necessary.
Basically, 2 teams face in the grand finals.
Team 1 gets in by winning the "Winners finals" (and therefore have not lost a series in the bracket)
Team 2 gets into Grand finals by having won the "losers finals" meaning they have lost 1 series during the bracket at some point (which is why they were in the loser finals)
Since it is a double elimination tournament, the team 1 had an 'advantage' in that if they won the grand finals that's it- they win
lets see if I reset my computer and see if it works
Team 2, if they win the grand finals, it means both teams have now lost 1 series.
So the grand finals gets "reset" and it's winner takes all on the reset
@wicked arch does that help?
@somber swift that's incredible thank you so much for the explanation! Yup I totally understand now that's really cool how they do that. Makes it pretty fair in the end as far as win loss ratio. Am I understanding that right?
I'd say so, yes.
And my pleasure
Welp resetting my computer did fix it I guess I get no drops GG
Try contacting Twitch support
whos commentating
Is the charm for finals the same as last year I assume?
😦
Yeah I just watched the sen and faze match and it was horrible
Faze needs to chill for once

After watching sens for a while throughout championship series, they need a new roster cause choking 3 games is unacceptable
Tbf it is a paid match right? Money on the line (I don't know who won/is winning)
Knowing it's likely optic I just stop watching the stream.
What do you mean ?
I feel like they win way too much.
I know it's comp and that's the name of the game but the fair play side of me wants to see someone else do well
I expect these games to be sweaty as heck haha not sure how much the grand prize is but yeah gotta be playing their best
A million right? It's a big prize
Yeah, thats a crazy amount (split between the teammates but still)
If you're at the event, come find me for free candy!
Lol
400k, 1 million is for the all prize pool
Just thought that i think we got no listen in from Quadrant....
what kind of candy..
Don’t fall for it he’ll kidnap you lol jk
Does anyone know how long the wc will be live? theyre on the top 2 teams now
We still have elimination finals then grand finals
Hey guys question, what size monitor does HCS play on?
Zowie XL2540K has been the official monitor for a while, believe that's still the case for finals

👀
Optic want that reverse sweep
that was the best koth match I think I've ever seen
Optic got the reverse sweep
i literally went to take a dump 30 seconds into the slayer game and i come back to see optic cleared it lmfao

5 years from now that game is still gonna be talked about
legendary tier
GREEN WALL BABY
Agreed, It’s boring having the same team Win worlds again. Optic is good but other teams need to seriously step up their game and win already. Apex legends, Valorant, or even LoL doesn’t have the same team win worlds each year.
This, basically.
That and a few years back Faze had branded Hot Pockets and for some reason I never liked that so.
No, you dont get to win, you take that silly tie in microwave snack and go sit in the corner, like a good gaming team XD
Nice!!!
The big boss ❤️
They have more players too, the pool for new team upping the game is larger
(and its more international too)
Seriously? 😂😂
Hes been there for the last couple days.
last exemple couldn't stay due to US law
hi
OMFG that was insane
so rn it's ssg and faze fighting for finals against optic right
Correct
I do wonder if different situations are different or if it would be the same outcome as Barcode. Seems to be working for Tapping Buttons.
We'll see what the future holds
So how much time is left on the stream?
Couple hours
Is there a contact email for the 343 Community team?
Hey where do people upload their clips for that community clips segment? I've got some nasty clips myself
Hopefully i can make it to the twitch drop
Smellbringer coating still doesn't unlock on Yoroi
Not really, what do you need to contact them for?
There's a form for people to upload their clips, do note there's a certain criteria (Clips be within the season and have no voice or overlays)
Thats a shame I have a lot of cool clips from season 4
are the forms on discord or somewhere else?
always wonder how they aim so well when they're also strafing so hard.
I wonder if the grand finals drops will start tracking early
Otherwise we better all hope for a reset
drops aren't on yet
Halo Wars 15 Year anniversary Camapign for Media as Xbox team mentioned to speak to Halo 343 team lol
they turn on at 8 cst, but the finals are starting earlier
Its almost 4am here but these rewards r worh it lol
they're working now
What is game #5 going to be?
that game was insane man
Hey all how's championship going?
Oh my god
HOLY
that was a nuts game
That was WILD
this is gonna be a crazy series
Lucid was MVP for that entire game
feel like it's gonna be 4-0
Nobody can contain lucid
NO WAY PHIL
Oh good, no more oddball
Can we talk about how sharp Bravo is looking in those threads?
Bravo was very snazzy, he busted out the good suit
why did stellur get voted mvp instead of lucid
Merty, start a fight forever chant. lol wonder how many people would get it.
woo, drops done
i feel like faze will take ctf but then optic will take it
they need this win for their morale at least
yea that true
Dw
Ik
got the drop early, but i've yet to see the loyal opposition coating in my inventory, what gives?

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Read through the support page, there's troubleshooting and additional info there
same here, might just need to wait a bit
go to the halo waypoint site and claim them there i had to do it
o
ye then restart game
Uuu I can't see my twich drops ingame
go to the halo website and claim there
I did
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Well I claimed from twitch's site
I did claimed all the drops but some showed up and some didn't like Loyal opposition
Read through the support page, there's troubleshooting and additional info there
Looks like the rewards are bugged. 343 will fix it at some point soon hopefully.
I got everything except smellbringer for mark 7 and yoroi
it unlocks slowly
just reload your game
was that a ghost melee with Formal?
oh
Why is there always a crash with FaZe 
bruh
that backsmack was dirty
absolutely shameful that it still happens in game 2 years after launch
I mean, would've been possible for Optic to win that?
Sucks but in all likelihood wouldn't have effected the outcome
Very unlikely
idc who would've won the game (I hate HCS) I'm just pissed that it's been 2 years and we still have ghost melees
what’s w the connection problems though
Formal didn’t ghost melee
The guy fell behind a box right when he lunged
Bad timing
there literally was a backsmack + audio
loyal opposition unlocked for me ingame just now so for those with it bugged try again when you get the chance
blood smacked the back of his head
This, plus you cant say desync cuz it LAN
like it even lunged him forward to connect
which shocked me
because melee lunge never works when I play
The probabilities are low but never zero.
It is weird in Infinite
Melee feels very awkward/unreliable in this game
and they refuse to fix it
Cosmic Nexus, Loyal Opposition & Smellbringer for the Mark 7 didn't unlocked for me. And yes I've reported to HALO support about the issue.
The last WC Mark 7 drops are not showing up in game? Anyone else have access.
For assistance with Twitch Drops
Please see this post from Div: #hcs-chat message
Also please read through the full troubleshooting guide on the Halo Support site - follow the steps, even if you think you have already tried it
https://aka.ms/DropsHelp
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And Smellbringer Coating for the Yorai is still locked.
I don't know if I'm the only one with this Twitch Drop issue or not.
Same here on my friends account
does anyone have that ghost melee clip?
I'm just missing 4 Coatings from the Twitch Drops that I claimed.
im not sure if it was a fluke, but i unlocked something else before i tried my still locked coating, maybe try that?
I'll give it a try, even though I don't know how to do it.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/redeem?view=twitch-drops
click everything on this page if you can
if it says unclaimed or whatever try to claim it
And I'm a bit tired so apologies if I type things wrong or read things wrong.
it's no problem at all dude
whoa, optic is fumbling hard
they are? i dropped out after i got my drops early
Read through the support page I linked. It gives step by stem troubleshooting instructions
(also i lost all my twitch points in the last gamble :^) )
I support faze
Thats it, Faze takes it
Bad guys have to win every now and then
why are Faze the bad guys again?

im shocked faze managers can pay them rn lmao
after all that crypto stuff a while back
Management can always do wizard stuff
So just unlink & relink my account of Twitch & HALO?
Snakebite:🙂
Royal 2:😐
Frosty: 👹
Renegade: 😈
anyways im gonna go to bed, these last few matchups have been insane and ive given all my energy lmao
Anyone else not getting the loyal opposition coating after claiming it?
I didn't yet.
Twitch Drops are bugged out for me.
I've reported the issue on HALO support & doing the troubleshooting right now.
Never seen so many people cry over drops lmao
You haven’t watched a Twitch drop livestream before then 🤣
THIS! 100% THIS.
I wish i spoke emoji
Naw I just attended and get a code for everything kek
Like people have no patience just wait lmao
I claimed them on the waypoint link. Still not showing in game, I did full game exit and console reset.
^
i got mine just gotta wait a bit guys probably being overloaded with people getting the drops
90% of twitch chatter whining about drops will probably never even equip the coatings anyway
Doing gods work stckr
SO TRUE
it's just about having it
fomo wierdos
I'm been using the drops for a few days. It's all good.
which drops are borked again?
IDK, I got em all for going to it live so.
Speaking of, theres only the trophy one from last year yeah? Theres no HCS Worlds 2023 charm this time round?
343 bruh
Infinite is made out of glue and duck tape
Isn't that basically every halo game?
Anyone else’s drops not all showing up immediately?
^
Is it gonna tell me to claim them?
yeah, i just got on to check, and i'm missing smellbringer eaglestrike and mirage IIC, but i think its just a waiting game thing based on the troubleshooting
THE CLUTCH
SHEESH
Whoooaaaaa
I will give guts to Optic to try and do a push
This is unbelievable
I checked in to the finals after the reset, so I genuinely dunno, why'd they do it?
This has been a great series to watch so far
I hope optic takes it to a game 7
It's going to be a close game here, optic should take it though 200 to 158
drop apg
why
there are many upgrades and the other 3 guys are more important for winning
kuhlect or suppressed would be better than apg on optic
they've been winning not sure why everyone blames apg when they lose it's a team game
so weird to remember that the Assault Rifle is actually viable in a halo game
Damn, OpTic is doing it bad
genuinely who would optic replace then if they drop apg?
@craggy bridge I would contest to restart all the pcs on stage lol
or at least switch sides
pick up kuhlect or suppressed. some young talent that are good at slaying
apg getting old anyway, they should find another long term piece
nah they both wouldn't fill the role apg does
what does apg do? he goes neg every game.
he's the obj player which is why he is neg
trippy and formal can do that. lucid and kuhlect/suppressed/tapping buttons can slay out
Going negative doesn't always mean bad. Plenty of pros go negative in tournaments
apg consistently going negative
Optic does not need more slayers
besides on a roster like optic those players you mentioned wouldn't be in the slayer role anyway and would probably be going neg
formal doing worse than apg right now sp so your argument isn't really valid atm
Renegod
lucid is off too his br all over so he playing swat now cleaning up all the kills from his teammates should they drop him too?
Is Royal 2 on that list?
For some reason I can't get his GT to work on API websites
lucid has top 3 KD this entire weekend.
@torpid beacon with the least assists
by your own logic optic should drop lucid because he went neg
what?
I can't remember
happened before, but don't remember which game it was. I think either Reach or H5.
don't we have chatgpt to ask these questions to these days? haha
Giveaway reminder
On Track Emblem/Coating and Diamond Weapon Charm
Still time to enter for the last big rewards of the weekend
#giveaways message
Wdym he is Faze’s MVP
@arctic quiver I'm missing Boots on the Ground Charm and HCS Winter Weapon Coating for MA40 Assault any chance they will ever come back?
Potentially
yes H5 pro league 2016 fall finals
apg and tripppy stats my god
Optic taking this game
i hope so, i dont want it to be over
Press X to doubt
I went all in on points to faze so the payout will be nice haha
Nearly 4.30am, i need this to be over already
Drop Trippy instead, look at that KD 
The doubters always stay silent during the good times
wow

Apg and Trippy are very inconsistent players
I'm mostly inconsistent in Halo Infinite too

but that's probably the game
They have clutched up dubs on many occasions, but if there were more consistent players on optic to begin with there arguably wouldn’t need to be clutches, just flat out sweeps.
GG's to FaZe, incredible to see a bracket reset winner
I'll take that point payout 
Optic shouldn’t have being force to forfeit that match when snakebite pc crash
congrats Faze
Really wouldn't have made a difference tbh
optic was playing on 4 core cpu while faze playing on 16 core
event staff back stage turning aim assist on/off for optic
the optic team was playing like the randoms you get in objective modes. they did good though, second place is still a great accomplishment
optic should've tried harder im n ot gonna get that skin 😢
If you haven't finished your drops yet, they are generally enabled on co-streamers until midnight PT
They elected to forfeit it
i was watching a co-streamer, havent done the 45 mins for the main channel 💔
@karmic linden they meant to elect the game not both series xD
ohhh
No idea what point your try to make here your sentence is incoherent
I’m not roasting Optic but let’s be honest, you know there’s definitely going to changes before next year HCS begins. Idk who will they drop but I highly doubt they won’t change their roster.
Co streamers should still have main channel Drops enabled
Faze bent optic over holy
8 straight outta of the losers is insane
So much for formal being the goat

maybe they should, but co-streamers don't have main channel drops right now
@azure swallow a guy named Eli_X has drops on the HCS channel raided him. He has like 10.2 viewers right now
I'm watching him right now, he doesn't
Drops go until 3am
he only has the co-streamer specific drops
I highly doubt optic changes their roster, unless one of them decides to retire
alright I just saw them get added to the eligible channel list, guess someone had to do it manually
they're up now
I mean we’ll see, last time they got 2nd place they replaced Trippy. Besides I’m sure other teams will have some roster changes as well.
Who won?
Faze
Dang

Wait a minute
Hype
Are u Mr.Duck?
Just
Literally just read my name. I can't get any more specific
I hope that they bring back the Got Milked nameplate some day
that's the only drop I don't have
How was that one unlocked?
pretty sure only by watching one of the HCS streams really early on in season 1
at least I've never seen it return
What?
Optic placed 5th in Arlington and didn't replace anyone.
It's been in drops a couple times and we had a giveaway for it this weekend. I'm sure it will be back again :)
7 hours later and I still don't have my Loyal Opposition coating drop from the stream. I have everything else
Players can earn in-game content for both Halo Infinite and Halo: The Master Chief Collection by participating in Halo events on Twitch.tv. These rewards are called Twitch Drops and are only availa...
Run through all the steps listed there (even if you think you've done them already)
If you get through them all and 24 hours has passed, you can submit a report linkd on that page
Yesterday we saw the Faze i was expecting and was afraid of when they picked up Renegade. A true dominant team and the main reason why for me it's difficult to root for them is i don't like to cheer for the favourites, because that's what they were all year long in my mind. Kudos to Optic and SSG that really put up a fight but i think it will be very difficult going forward. I don't see any of the current rosters being able to stop Faze and after this win they'll be even more confident. They 3-0'd Sentinels, SSG and won 8 games in row against Optic. Unbelievable run.
The only thing i didn't like yesterday was that some of them didn't go for the fist bump at the end. I think only Snakebite did? Not showing respect to your competitors it's a classless act imo, especially when you win.
Optic can beat Faze
They have done it time and time again
Also Optic should cut APG and bring in Bubu
Well, the better won in HWC. Grz Faze for winning.
It took long enough to get this trophy
dumb take
Mybad I meant when they dropped Pistola.
https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/svujru/optic_drops_pistola_for_formal/
Pistola was a beast
You realize they placed outside the top 2 several times after that and never dropped someone
Stellur or Spartan should replace APG
Why on earth would Stellur leave SSG?
Same for APG
🏆#1
Why not lol
Because they won SLC, and have placed top 3 consistently.
Also Stellur won Halo 5 WC back in 2017
Or was it 2018
It was an amazing WC tbh
Are Shottzy and Neptune retired from Halo?
Dude I’m just trying to have a normal conversation and you’re clearly upset over potential roster changes. It’s not a big deal, not arguing with you any further.
I think so haven't seen then play for a team on inf
There's not an upset bone in my body
Just super confused why anyone could possibly think Optic would change their roster.
I'm pretty sure they went to cod
Formal 🫰🏻
Shotzzy plays COD now, although he did compete and win a side tournament this weekend in Infinite
Lol, he blocked me for disagreeing?
Damn. I remember back in S1 when Pistola played Infinite.
He is retired from Halo too
Pistola is and will be my GOAT 🫶🏻
He probably won’t but could go from knowing you get top 3 to first every time. There’s no way SSG drops him but he could leave. Also maybe wants the fame of being an optic player. That said SSG is growing their fan base quick and seem to be doing everything right
I guess he could leave.
That would require Optic desiring to make a change, and I honestly don't see that
And there's currently no one in the league that can "know you'll get first every time"
3 different teams have won 1st place this year
SSG,Optic and Faze
If i remember correctly
Yep
At this point I don't think any of those 3 teams make roster changes for competitive reasons, I could only see it being done for some kind of personal reason.
I have seen that 2 of each team r getting those kills and 2 focus on to the objective for example on Oddball they focus onto the ball
Kinda true.
You definitely need different players to fill different roles.
But at this level, anyone in top 6 can slay like a beast.
When the situation arises
True
The unique thing that happened for Faze was that while they were back on Sentinels with Lethul, they won 1 LAN in year 1, but otherwise struggled to stay in top 3.
When a "top 3" expected team starts consistently missing the top 3, that's when I expect changes.
Current SSG, Optic, and Faze don't seem to be struggling to stay in top 3 lately
Shame Graymere thought I was upset - if they just stuck around I think they might have gained some perspective
Possibly
But they've been improving as a group.
I just don't know who would be better that isn't already locked on those top 3 mentioned teams
I think he sometimes fills that role.
But I think Lethul is like their quiet background leader.
Who do you is the best player that isn't on Sen, Optic, Faze, SSG right now?
From retired players, it is Pistola (most likely) or Neptune. From current players, it is Tapping Buttons or Suspector
Hmm, I suppose it's possible that team splits up
Also, don't forget about Barcode - not sure what he'll do next year
And Jimbo is considering moving to NA
it was more an idea then a real thing
You never know
If the opportunity presented itself
And also depending on what the circuit is.
If there's no international LANs again, it's food for thought
If Europe is downgrade, maybe a good idea. If not, he would be making more in Europe with Navi than alone in NA
True.
Navi did improve a bit in their international placings this year.
Was this the first time we've had 2 EU teams in top 8 at the same tournament?
Crossman into Sentinels
Crossman?
Are you trolling?
I guess so lol
Oh I definitely see C9 changing their roster.
They didn't seem very cohesive and their post worlds tweets didn't sound like they are a tight group that wants to put in the work together
Haha, no worries.
Do you like Crossman or something?
That's cool if you do.
He is one of best Finnish Halo players who i know
Gotcha, are you Finnish?
Yea
Nice.
It's for reasons like this that I hope HCS year 3 has LANs overseas again.
People love to cheer for players from their own country, in their own backyard.
It's really empowering to see someone rise up and be the best in your region, with the opportunity.
It lets people see themselves in the players.
Are you going to attend Blackpool, and is he playing on a team going there?
I watched him playing when he was in Frostbite Esports
Do you know about Blackpool?
Never heard
It is pretty expensive to fly in UK where this is happening
Its going to be streamed too
Cool
Who won?
Faze
Nvm I just checked announcements
In bracket reset against Optic
Alright
i lost all my twitch channel points went all in for Optic
53 k gone lmao
do you think they will ever bring back some of the older team bundles like from S1

If c9 sticks around at all (as an org)
Ah darn!
At least it's just free points for nothin
maybe
Not likely though
My Coatings for the Twitch Drops is still locked.
My very first time watching HWC or really any esports league, it was a great time.
If it's been 24 hours since you claimed it and you still don't have it, submit a support ticket
I did.
Yeah, not even mad in the slightly.
Just thought to myself no way Faze will do a reverse swipe on Optic but the way Faze was playing they deserve it.
Didn't watch the last two match though because it was 4 am where I live gonna watch the vod later.
Some of mine took more than 24 hours to appear in my inventory maybe wait a another day or so. If they are still lock maybe be raise support ticket
wouldn't be too surprised if they are vaulted for good
but here hoping they come back one day lol
Once FaZe had won 6 in a row it pretty much felt over
Someday, someone else will win.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Was there anything that surprised you, good or bad?
343 could give a survey on that !
Some good news:
https://twitter.com/Tashi343i/status/1713954739778625818?t=Gu3lavZOB372z5BDSV36dA&s=19
I'm excited to confirm #HaloWC 2023 viewership surpassed HaloWC 2022, and was the highest since the game's launch event nearly 2 years ago in December 2021.
Thank you again for all the immense support, our team and studio greatly appreciate it! #HCS
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This does not surprise me.
I hope that means next year they'll have more booths.
It was lack of sponsors this year.
We actually had more team booths this year which was nice
No embed?
try adding vx
Oh well, anyway Barcode will be back in NA
W for barcode tho
Astro leaving was kinda big
Well, Barcode gave me wrong then XD
Hopefully next year with a full year of game fuel and etc things will start revving up again
Champs + Season 5 trailer looking so good helped a lot in raising people interest, also Scump watch party like it or not helped a ton and honestly this is unrelated to hcs but i think 343 should consider doing sponsored streaming as well. The game is a lot better now and you need visibility and people spreading the word
While I didn't want to eat more Trolli, not having them made things less fun this year.
The Feedler was awesome.
Also no Fireteam raven was sad.
Yeah
Kinda surprised summit didn’t do a world watch party
Although he’s already moved on lmao
He was playing a lot of Halo for a month or so there
oh and another thing that was circulating on twitter was for mlg to come back and have CoD/Halo events, now that Microsoft owns Acti Blizzard i think it might happen and if so i think it will be amazing in general but for Halo in particular.
Won't be 2024, but maybe 2025
Especially in Europe (but not HWC because its the middle of the night). They need to learn the ground now
Also, this is nice to see him address
https://twitter.com/ske7ch/status/1713931306089029644?t=k_Ag2Lva_ohER8MTbjp6GA&s=19
Not sure if Ascending Baseline will actually be getting this prize
Yeah
the shouldn't be. its just the graphic
The coach from Shopify seems to think they will get their prize
And honestly, given how they weren't allowed to sub someone in this obvious emergency, is at least a little bit fair.
I don't have a strong opinion on that. There is for and against
Poor best man
I watched all the streams to get all the coatings but I was into the last 3 because I main MK VII, and I thought they had to be unlocked the day after unlocking the Mirage Coatings (which is today)
But now I learned that it was in the same day? It was yesterday??? I just missed what I wanted to get? ç_ç
Isn't there any way to get the last 3 coatings?
Like I got all the things, including the Sweep Success charm, but not the last 3
I just read the last streaming started at 2:30 AM where I lived ç___ç I want to cry I thought the last streaming started 30 minutes ago
Keep your eyes peeled on twitter, lots of people will be giving away codes
Like which profiles if I may ask
There will probably be dozens.
Most Halo content creators will likely do some
Influence
I do follow most of the most famous Halo content creators and I've never seen them doing giveaways, and I doubt I find someone with grand finale coatings...
I give up... 343 if you're reading please have mercy of a Halo Infinite player of over 1200 hours of activity in the game and followed all the streaming and may you send a way to get the coatings... Thanks ç_ç
keep an eye on the 'for you' section, not just the 'following' section - it'll show you other people of similar to things you follow.
Lucid is still the best player in the world currently
Cool, although that wasn't what I asked.
I think ever Optic go on a Revenge tour and win next year or we see
Oh then Tapping Buttons
Tapping Buttons might be Top 10 actually
- Lucid
- Stellur
- Renegade
- Formal
- Frosty
- Trippy
- Bound
- BuBu
- Lethul
- Tapping Buttons
Frostbite is sending a team to Blackpool:
10/32 teams signed up for the seeding so far.
Getting there!
Cool
Good list although I don’t think you can leave snakebite or R2 off this though right?
Post worlds:
Lucid
Renegade
R2
Stellur
Formal
Snakebite
Trippy
Frosty
Bound
Lethul
Honorable mention:
Eco, Peng, Falc,
Forgot legend under honorable
you made half those names up
I'm out of the loop. What happened with Ascend Baseline?
Lol
They had a player in the hospital last minute who couldn't attend.
So they were forced to sub in their coach.
But their coach had one broken hand, and couldn't play.
They were not allowed another sub.
So they forfeit in protest, sorta
Ah, thank you for the update.
Basically 343 said "nah you dont get a sub because competitive integrity"
Np
That really sucks, not a fun situation
Definitely not fun
I submitted my ticket on HALO Support about the Twitch Drop issue been having.
Spartan outside of the top 10 is wild
is it?
There were 3 other teams ahead of his, with 4 people on each team, so it's not far fetched that he might not make a top 10 list.
I agree to an extent. I think Spartan is a Top10 player but it’s also hard to remove some players from the list that he mentioned. In the end there are like 15-20 players that are VERY good and then it starts to fall off IMO.
Doing eco wrong here
Taulek is underrated
Fair
You can't rate players by skill
It's about how well they work as a team
Like APG has a bad KD but because he's the objective player and communicates well with his team he's up there
So the top 10 are just Optic, SSG and Faze
Since there were the best teams by far in halo Infinite so far
The HALO Support responded & they said there's nothing they could do unless I took a screenshot of my Twitch Drops & Ingame locked coatings that I was supposed to earn.
The very last step of troubleshooting tells you to do exactly that
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And apologies if I'm annoying anyone with my Twitch Drop issue. I'm just trying to get it resolved & fixed.
you can rate players by skill, but it might not be the most relevant rating.
That's just an unfortunate situation all around. How did the brackets change with their absence?
they just 'placed' last in their pool - so it didn't affect the bracket
since 1 team from each pool didn't advance to bracket anyway
Aaah okay, so it was an automatic advance for the other team in their initial bracket?
yeah, the other 3 teams basically guaranteed bracket play, they just had to figure out their placing within
Gotcha. Still sucks for them, sad they couldn't get a second substitute
In my defense I love eco. Probably shoulda had him where bound was, and bound where LethuL was.
Agreed - they made the 'best of it' though.
The 3 others were able to compete in some of the side tournaments instead.
Man that was such a fun weekend. You hear the crowd singing Kiss Him Goodbye at the end of the final game? I was part of that lol
There I claimed my Twitch Drops from the Halo Waypoint.
Hopefully this bug will fix my issue.
And I didn't know you could claim Twitch Drops on the Halo Waypoint.
it's not just that you can it's that you need to
Anyome else hating Bandit start?
that was fast
Yeah it was, 4th game... this is horrible.
why
Cause we're not on Reach anymore
lol yeah I do
and would you say it feels closer to reach or H5?
Doesn't seem like it sets the pace right, and even though I enjoyed picking Bandit up, I feel like it will be an issue with lower skill ceiling players
isn't that the point?
Creates more separation in skill?
I feel like it will deter people from ranked, rather than create a gap in skill level
And I kust be a rare case, as I actually enjoyed H5.
But I would rather pistol starts from H5 then this
I guess we'll see over the next week/2 how it plays out
About to try it out, but I’m not expecting something amazing. They should just bring the H5 magnum back. I don’t see why it’s taking so long.
Faze up
Twitch stream with a new charm as a drop
https://www.twitch.tv/frosty
https://www.twitch.tv/luciid_tw
https://www.twitch.tv/ubernick
https://www.twitch.tv/extremebreaker1
https://www.twitch.tv/elamite
Congrats to faze for actually winning a world championship
Sucks optic choked but oh well
What's the charm?
Lethul isn't as good anymore
The Cross-Core Coatings aren't working properly.
What's going on with them?
I applied the coating from the Warmaster Bundle on my Hazmat Core. After I completed a couple matches of Super Fiesta the coating is now locked, same on all the cores.
You'll guys will notice it after you complete a couple matches.
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Let's keep this channel HCS focused Johnny
My bad.
LFG the Bandit Rifle starts now make ranked and HCS take way more skill
I believe online qualifiers and opens will be February. First event probably March.
How come ascending didn't even make it to Seattle
^^
Oh ok wouldn't have mattered because they wouldn't have made out of open bracket regardless
There was no open bracket
but they wouldn't have made it out of pools most likely
It is what it is
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Does anyone know what the exclusive reward was for being in person at HaloWC or was it all the same as the Twitch drops?
you got a card that let you claim all the drops with a code
I think the exclusive item was a trophy charm, but we already had that.
There was no truly exclusive item from this year's HCS event, unlike last year.
It wasn’t, the trophy could be gotten by the stream
Anyone got the youtube link for when Tashi was talking about year 3?
I thought Tashi was on day 2, not 3?
actually, it was on day 1 it looks like from the tweet
The Halo World Championship 2023 brings together the best Halo Infinite teams from HCS Year 2, vying for supremacy and a chance to claim the coveted title of...
Guess Im still gonna have my 2022 emblem charm on my aR then.
Im not sure there was an exclusive in person one this year.
Then again the VIP bag gave you an entire statue so
that you don't get on site, and need to pay shipping for
Oddly enough, I didnt have to pay for shipping.
But that might be because Im local.
I just straight got the statue free.
did you pick it up yourself, or did they deliver?
gotcha
...
What does it look like?
It's the Yoroi Chonmahge armor in the yellow and green coating
You could buy it at the con too
Oh, I remember that
I thought you were talking about an exclusive Master Chief or something
No no.
Who was voted mvp this year?
Stellur
Perfect
You shouldn’t need to pay for shipping. If you do need to pay, let me know . It should say “free shipping “ on the card .
Warehouse is in Ohio somewhere.
Huh. Guess not
@ornate crescent Great seeing you again this year; another amazing event in the books 👊
Great seeing you as well 🙂 thank you for attending!
Thanks Div, that's great to hear!
cc: @noble field
Ah I was wrong. My bad. Thank you for the heads up.
When I filled out the form it was there as an option just not selected by default. Just had to open the drop down and pick the free shipping. Even WITH an OH address too btw.
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they used to always embed - is that why they don't anymore?
Elon did stuff
the doer of things
Yep, I keep forgetting too
I wonder if we're in any
Some dude was blocking my view in the crowd 😦
yep
Would love to see darkest hour comeback to hcs
when will the next Hcs tournament be ?
There is a non HCS tournament happening in Blackpool UK, a LAN, in November.
There will also be some off-season HCS tournaments likely December-January.
But the official HCS 2024 doesn't start until Feb (likely) 2024.
OK thx
Keep your eyes peeled here, we usually talk about it.
And the info always gets pinned.
Actually, @runic lodge :
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Can’t wait for unnerfed mangler to break competitive in half again
I doubt it's in ranked.
Maybe in ranked slayer or something, but not the HCS style playlist
No map has the mangler on it, iirc.
It was absolutely brutal
Felt like It was a slap that left a mark
And watching EU get slaughtered just felt personal
First time ever 2 EU teams placed in at least top 8.
That's not slaughtered.
I'm overreacting but yes I'm proud of Navi and quadrant
Felt bad for SSG. Really thought they had a chance
Stellur lost more snipes than I expected 😭
And speaking of Stellur
Guess the reception this stamp got when I brought it back home
Elamite is probably my favourite coach in hcs
Since towey from instinct during the MLG era
It’s on forest in ranked slayer 💀
That's Rank slayer
That's fine
Ranked slayer isn't that competitive
Yeah it is lol
I don’t know. I accidentally played a game on it on Tuesday and it was Detachment. 😂
Oh nah the maps aren’t but once you hit high diamond, the skill is competitive
Behemoth for example right when the game first launched 😂😂
You’re not wrong. I think he is saying and I agree with that is a difference of a competitive list versus a talented list. The arena has settings that are more fair and competitive in terms of esports. That’s all he was saying.
Ah I see
Shoot some of those high MMR social kids are amazing. Just tearing apart BTB and stuff. 😂
I rarely play btb, I have no motivation to play anything besides ranked. It gets depressing ngl
I don’t get why it’s a struggle. Everyone complains about how 343 forces every game to be a coin flip and I hear of 50-47 games and I think “man I wish every game was that close” as that is fun for me. Winning and definitely losing 50-28 isn’t fun.
There is a non HCS tournament happening in Blackpool UK, a LAN, in November.
Is this to co inside with the lights turning on... I can only imagine - why else would anyone be in Blackpool in November... Brrr Brrrr. I might go up and sell hand warms from a box outside the venue.
The guy who went to HCS with me looked at that and said that wasn't right. Didnt explain why.
I don't know if this is the place to ask but i need help solving an issue on the helljumper nameplate reward.
When I went to claim it, it didn't let me at first but when I refreshed the page the helljumper nameplate was gone.
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Lights...?
😂
That’s fair but im also going like 16-12 every game tryna carry and barely making it out
I get that. I still stand by my statement. Games are very fair and it’s a better experience.
😂🤣
That’s really funny.
At least the competitive scene is in a better place compared to 2012-2013 when agl events were around
That’s random but yea
🤡
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Yea I saw that. Crazy that they can’t figure this out.
oof, Frosty chased someone hard and then got no scoped by them.
Someone did that to us the other day at Bazaar
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F
baby
I’m sorry I had too
Seeing “Wheezy F” in reference to Lil Wayne
ok I’ll go back to hiding
I was responding about the druk post on the visa complications
I know, just my intrusive thoughts won me over
W
Did he state why?
didn't see anything, but Spartan gave his thoughts.
https://twitter.com/Spartan/status/1716589332633407704
I agree
Free agency has begun!
https://fxtwitter.com/RyaNoobHCS/status/1716615790214967519?t=VBi_LYxkVNXzrqCSsqii7A&s=19
Wonder what’s next for Mr noob
The timing is odd to me on this. Right after worlds is not when teams are dropping people and making changes generally. This makes me think that he either has something lined up or more likely, retirement.
He just got top 8 it wouldn't make sense
You have no idea what’s going on in his life. Plus Top8 at Worlds is 25k, so assuming he got 20% of it he made 5k. That’s the big payout at the end of the season. Got less than that at the other events. It’s a grind.
There is a big difference between making that money when you’re 20 years old and when you’re married at 30 years old like he is.
I disagree- right after worlds is not uncommon for a few immediate changes.
Contracts are often only good until the end of the 'season' and if they had no intention of renewing, making the annoucement right away allows both parties to begin pursuing their next options.
Which is why I expect him to be looking at another org that can pay a salary along with whatever prize money he can earn.
Also, his response tweet didn't really imply he's retiring.
I expect he's looking at what his options are - and if something doesn't materialize, he might decide to retire later.
maybe even wait until the S3 roadmap is out to decide if it works for his life
prices are high
prizes?
I meant more that it's possible Ryanoob might want to know what the dates and locations of all the events are in order to see how it fits into his life.
With a $1M Worlds prize pool, I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar prizing spread for all the LANs as last year.
I believe this is an unrelated comment about today's shop.
Creeping into our hcs chat!
I feel like it was an inflation comment and that pros need to make more to fully commit. Could be wrong though.
"I feel like it was an inflation comment"
Yes - but likely in the shop.
Which team would ryanoob would fit in with
depends on what other changes happen
c9 will probably change their roster if they stay partnered
I’m curious if any of the Top5 NA teams will consider a move to get Ryanoob. I don’t think so in the end although the ideas are at least interesting. Noob for APG? Noob for Manny? Noob for Lethul to be back with Spartan? All of them are interesting but doubtful in the end.
So the question is does the next four teams make a change for him? N8V White, C9, G1, Complexity, or LVT? I don’t think N8V White moves on from Mikwen and I don’t see those two together. So my best guess is G1 or C9 builds around Noob assuming he is on board and doesn’t retire.
Spartan won't wanna play with Ryan
Maybe some shake up with one of the Native teams, but I see it most likely C9 building a team around him, if C9 stays in partnership.
I think he wants to get on a partnered team again.
Maybe Str8sick teams up with him.
If druk comes back native red prolly takes him back
Suppressed had really good slaying power but the teamwork wasnt there
Maybe we see old Fnatic team back up some mix of sceptify suppressed juziro artic (?)
that's a throwback!
for sure
idk you know this I wanna see some form of one of those Fnatic rosters reunite
what about ryan and mikwen? they were teaming together before the season with karmea
throw in suspector or maybe tapping and that's a solid roster imo
maybe kuhlect too tho idk
like: mikwen, ryanoob, suspector, rayne maybe even if rayne leaves shopify
although i want to see shopify succeed with the young guns
I feel like when you put two OGs together that aren’t quite as quick as these younger kids, it is a disaster. I think Lethul and Nick together was a good example of that. I think for Noob the formula for success will continue to be him plus two or three slay heavy high damage gunners.
I think nick's an outlier because of how objectively inconsistent he is and realistically always has been. Both lethul and nick have placed top 2 at an Infinite event with seasoned vets surrounding them
I don’t count that early EUnited Top2 as they had our practiced every other team coming into those first couple events. But maybe I’m wrong about Noob on a team with Mikwen. I hope so if they team up as I would be rooting for them. Big fan of both.
It is Wednesday. Too early to trip out that we don’t have any NA pros signed up for this weekends C9 5K?
Too early, yep
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I asked Str8 Sick about a possible team with himself, Barcode, Ryanoob, and Rayne. He said it would be a dope squad.
I’ve got a feeling St8Sick is the only one that would want that team.
Hoax is so annoying bro
Wonder if naded would be a good fit on Shopify rebellion
Or pistola he's a free agent currently after getting dropped by optic
Pistola has definitely retired
Pain
He was on his last legs as a top pro
And naded is probably not up for competing
Yeah he's Probably not
He is capable tho
I just don't think he'll get picked up by a top team
Valid point sucks pistola isn't coming back to hcs but whatever he's doing best of luck
It's a bit depressing that triggers down was the best team in h3 but were unable to win nationals
Don't be depressed. You can't change it
Triggers Down got RIP off twice at 2009 Nationals by MLG
Valid point
The best thing about MLG halo 3 was the new teams coming up out of the woodwork like ambush, warriors, the darkest hour, triggers down, status quo and instinct and dynasty and believe the hype and purgatory
Out of the new teams that were formed in halo 3 my top 5 would be triggers down, instinct, believe the hype, status quo, warriors
Question. Where are the online tournaments that I never seem to hear about streamed?
Recent example being the wc warm up, I couldn't find it anywhere (plus it was over when I found that it's even a thing)
is he actually thinking of competing again?
Not sure he hasn't said
But he was consistent throughout his pro career from storm ventures,legendz, carbon,str8 rippin
They're typically picked up by LVT or sometimes they are broadcasted on the Partner's Twitch.
I think the WC Warm up was run by Complexity.
I doubt he will come back to compete - he's just a streamer now and likely wouldn't want to change course.
Halo 3 had the most amount of different teams winning out of all the halos in there competitive era
That's why everyone holds halo 3 to high standards in competitive halo
Yeah second highest skill gap, most teams competing, biggest ranked playerbase by popularity etc etc
Do you think Infinite might rival that?
We've now had at least 3 teams win Majors
Probably not but it's a stepping stone for EU orgs
The only way it will is if it continues for at least 5 years
Halo 3 had 9 different teams which won events
9 is a lot!
Were those like completely different teams?
Or were some of them just slight roster adjustments?
Cause if so, Infinite has had more than 3
Halo CE was very grassroots there's less photos of the scene but some has survived to the test of time
2 of the 9 teams are slight team adjustments
So in that case then it's 3 in halo Infinite vs 7 in halo 3
Teams that dominated halo CE were tdt,team FFA and team StK
gotcha
Has it really only been Faze/Sen, Optic, and SSG/C9 for Infinite so far?
Pretty much
Yes
I mean for halo 2 it was basically only Final Boss, STR8 Rippin and Carbon
👍
Sv were underrated for sure
Do you think Quadrant or current Sentinels, or even like Native Red could ever win?
For quadrant no
really?
They improved a lot this season, and that's considering they have less ability to practice against the highest level NA teams very often.
I don't think they've peaked yet.
Problem with teams in EU are the connection it's not the best so top EU teams barely scrim so their practice is pretty limited
exactly.
Maybe they'll find a way to keep improving even without those scrims
I think to have another team win an event there needs to be team changes
The gap between SSG, Faze and Optic is too much
I tend to agree - but Sentinels took second place recently.
That was mainly because the other top teams like Faze hadn't played against Sentinels up to The SSG invitational so their got the advantage of suprise
They knocked faze down TWICE though, and Sentinels hasn't even been a squad for too long.
It just seems that somehow Sentinels loses all steam in the matches they actually end up getting knocked out in.
Often they get swept.
Faze has knocked them down twice at Fort Worth and Worlds
And Destroyed them in scrims
I think they just had the suprise and being underated by Faze
Year 3 meta shift might change a LOT - I've no idea how, but we'll see!

