hcs-chat

[noble field]

Correct. I would imagine that those three team and pick up one, but who knows.

I believe the deadline is in an hour.

[somber swift]

What about Posey maybe?

[somber swift]

For travel coverage, yeah

[noble field]

I gotta imagine Proton (I believe they were/are 11th) are just sitting back hoping that nothing happens and they slide to 10th. Saves them money.

[somber swift]

Lol, totally

[quiet prairie]

https://liquipedia.net/halo/Player_Transfers/2023/2nd_Quarter
Hope I didn't miss any player

[quiet prairie]

proton is behind cloud9 by 2 000 points

[somber swift]

Do we even know protons 4th though?

[quiet prairie]

yes

Its all there : https://www.faceit.com/fr/championship/320b8672-c535-4017-ae39-2435bf34e1b9/HCS Arlington Major - NA Pools & Travel Coverage Signup/teams

Suaqllaye, Hainesss, Common and breakingshot

[somber swift]

Oh right

[somber swift]

Cykul came from Complexity

[somber swift]

Ok, now we know
https://twitter.com/NoobComboCom/status/1668014672170176514?t=RobCPuYJ282sJYAo1l7QYw&s=19

NoobCombo.com (@NoobComboCom)

Mortally, Sabinater, Suspector, and Karmea have registered as Incognito.

Twitter · Jun 11, 2023, 9:57 PM

does this mean Hive doesn't have a roster anymore?
All players found a home?

Monstcr
Suspector
Posey

All got dropped from teams and haven't signed up to a new one yet (And Druk)
And Str8 sick said he would team with Posey

but he wasn't playing before

[candid badger]

Have a feeling druk is sitting this out. Which sucks

[somber swift]

Yeah Druk is out for sure

[tall mural]

Nice

[tall mural]

Str8 retired didn’t he?

Or is there something recent

[somber swift]

He previously did

Said he was gonna team with Posey though

[tall mural]

Hmm

[tall mural]

Suspector just found a team tho- did you mean nick?

https://twitter.com/noobcombocom/status/1667720646770450434?s=46&t=X6sJAfpJXPXdZ7p1B1-j6Q wait

Nick is on col with tusk gilk and suppressed

Instead of Karmea like initially thought

[somber swift]

Oh, I didn't realize Ace got dropped

[tall mural]

🥲mm my brain is melting

[somber swift]

So it's:
Monstcr
Ace
Posey

All no team

[tall mural]

https://twitter.com/noobcombocom/status/1667987982723215360?s=46&t=X6sJAfpJXPXdZ7p1B1-j6Q

new g1 is precisin huss swish and neuronical; I guess they just bought out hive

[noble field]

SuperCC was also on that team with Ace and is a free agent.

[somber swift]

Super cc is still on a team though

[tall mural]

he is?

[noble field]

He was on Mantra with Ace. Sceptify left for C9 though and Mortally left for Incognito. So I guess a team of two but I don’t consider that a team at this point.

[tall mural]

where envore and Juziro at? I’d love a reformation of that fnatic roster with artic

[somber swift]

They now have 4 people though

When I hear free agent, I assume not on any team signed up

[somber swift]

No word

[tall mural]

apparently mantra has posey ace and supercc

https://twitter.com/nicklavid/status/1668048469561417728?s=46&t=X6sJAfpJXPXdZ7p1B1-j6Q check the thread

[noble field]

They signed up initially as Mantra with Sceptify and Mortally. It has been taken down since then as far as I know.

[somber swift]

for some reason I didn't have karmea on incognito

so players who were previously on a team but now we don't know are:
Monstcr
Ace
Super CC
Posey

[tall mural]

new mantra maybe

cratos is in shambles rn

[somber swift]

there's also Juziro and Envore like you mentioned, and Cratos, and possible Str8 sick if he actually teams with Posey

[tall mural]

right

is toni2turnt accounted for?

[somber swift]

don't think so, but we're getting into the 20+ seed

https://twitter.com/Spartan/status/1668037681224335361
Gotta be talking about nick here

Tyler Ganza | SEN (@Spartan)

Incredible when you try to help someone your hardest because you have a bond with them but all they do is take no accountability for their mistakes and try to throw everyone else around them under the bus for their own mistakes and shortcomings.

Really disappointing and hurtful

Twitter · Jun 11, 2023, 11:29 PM

[noble field]

Yea Toni, Envore, Artic, and Juziro were on a team before called Locked. Haven’t heard a word about all four of them since they didn’t qualify for Dreamhack Dallas.

[somber swift]

maybe they play again in arlington

but likely finances are starting to play in

if they can't get an org to help with travel costs and accommodation etc.

[tall mural]

right

[tall mural]

Ouch

[tall mural]

Exactly

https://twitter.com/noobcombocom/status/1668068728867569666?s=46&t=X6sJAfpJXPXdZ7p1B1-j6Q @somber swift @noble field

[somber swift]

yeah this is pretty neat

so Sentinels makes Pools based on this

We'll also see if Common's thoughts on travel coverage hold true

I'm also trying to figure out the MX teams:

Bullet, Derift and Noblc are obvious

I'm not sure who would be MagicButtons

would it be Magico?

I think it's likely

anyhow, here's how the brackets turn out now:

compared to what I had before:

Basically, Complexity out of pools, G1 moves up a spot, and Sentinels gets into pools.

which is wild

Monstcr out there with a bunch of points, but no one is using him

[somber swift]

Our lower team roster mania will end on June 26th:

[somber swift]

3/4 players here teaming:
https://twitter.com/SuperCC_Evades/status/1668012839775137792

Chase (@SuperCC_Evades)

To3 with @PoseyxR @AceTv for Arlington need 1

Twitter · Jun 11, 2023, 9:50 PM

I think str8 sick deleted his tweet where he was saying he's in a to2 with posey

It's a shame for them, if they got a 4th and signed up in time to faceit, they might've actually qualified for travel coverage

but they've missed that now

[somber swift]

Also, spectator tickets to SSG go on sale this Thursday:
https://twitter.com/Spacestation/status/1665405410361376768

Spacestation Gaming (@Spacestation)

We’re bringing the WORLDS BEST
@Halo teams to Salt Lake City!!

🎟️ Tickets on sale JUNE 15th

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Twitter · Jun 4, 2023, 5:09 PM

[gloomy bridge]

oof

[noble field]

I feel bad my guy @somber swift out here talking to himself.

[gloomy bridge]

rip king nick

[somber swift]

lol, I'm just laying down my thoughts

[gloomy bridge]

nah i check on to see wut he says

gud stuff half the time

[cold kayak]

he provides info that may seem like static, but to some it's good intel

[somber swift]

another one being:
ANZ Halo teams that want to try to make it to SSG tournament need to show up big in the upcoming online tournaments.

[noble field]

Haha I know. I’m just giving him a hard time. Thought it was funny it was a ton posts without a response.

[somber swift]

It's highly unlikely another team from ANZ will make it into pools from ANZ that isn't pre-qualified - so we'll see Bittersweet take in more points than any other ANZ team (given they are guaranteed top16 finish).

If Mindfreak or Divine Mind want to catch up, they'll need to peform at these:
July 16: Open Series SSG Pre-Qualifier
July 22-23: HCS/SSG Global Invitational Qualifier, (July 23 rest of world)

I'm assuming these will operate similar to a 4K
like this one did:
Mar 26: Open Series 4k Qualifier
April 1-2: NA Open Series 4k (Apr 2 rest of world)

so july 16th will provide the seeding for the july 23rd matches, likely 8 teams in ANZ eligible for the 23rd - so they'll all get in there.

It'll be up to Divine Mind and Mindfreak to try to win the 23rd - the winner will get auto invitation to SSG (the only ANZ team that goes)

[somber swift]

only half - other half is just me rambling 😉

[quiet prairie]

Incredible what a crowdfunding can do : https://twitter.com/Ascension_tn/status/1667977095727706119
90 000 € with only funding from the fan (with 2€ per twitch's subscribe)

It shoes too, to me, the lack of transparency of the crowdfunding of last year. And how many goes for 343 / esport /teams for HCS skins

[somber swift]

what's this for?

[quiet prairie]

3 LAN in France

70 % cash at the last LAN.
This year its on Trackmania

[somber swift]

3 separate LANs for a racing game?
Just checking my understanding

[quiet prairie]

That's it yes. Not the first LAN too

Trackmania Cup last year was 15 000 spectatorbut the cashprize was only 2 000 €

ie : that's why making a LAn in Europe is dope ^^ (and not in Valencia lol)

[tall mural]

It is yeah

So the atzo experiment failed

[tall mural]

online cheese 💀

[somber swift]

I still feel bad for the guy

[candid badger]

I don't see a team picking him up unless they are insanely desperate.

How did he preform at Charlotte?

[quiet prairie]

He was average and not consistant

[quiet prairie]

he might be picked up for the Open Bracket

[somber swift]

depends on if he wants to pay his own way there or not

[candid badger]

Then they are roster locked for lan, yeah he has points but underpreforming at lan will hurt an org more imo

[somber swift]

he's been through a mental whirlwind, so who knows

[quiet prairie]

of course. Like all players

[somber swift]

I'm just saying he might be less likely to pay his own way there now, given how poorly the community has been treating him

[quiet prairie]

True ^^

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/G1Official/status/1668294813526142976?t=99BoEC_pPQL9mHt3_4g-RA&s=19
Hehe

G1 (@G1Official)

🤔

Twitter · Jun 12, 2023, 4:30 PM

[tall mural]

AVENGERS -> HIVE -> G1 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[candid badger]

I bet they happy af

[tiny sparrow]

Inb4 cease and desist letter from Disney.

[tame sandal]

Handed by someone in a Deadpool costume for no reason

[somber swift]

Sad day:
https://twitter.com/MartinOmes/status/1668350932243865627

Martin Omes (@MartinOmes)

If any locals want to take over the reigns of @GTHalo, and continue to grow the Canadian scene just let us know!

We have done our part, time for someone who still has the passion to continue it!

Twitter · Jun 12, 2023, 8:13 PM

[tall mural]

Whattt

[somber swift]

They've been basically silent since Halo 5 though

[tall mural]

Yeah

But they’re a grassroots partner aren’t they?

[somber swift]

They are

Like half of grassroots partners kinda just vanish

Echidna basically never plays Halo anymore

[candid badger]

Oof. What are the perks of being grassroots?

[somber swift]

So many of the initial ones just sorta ghosted Halo

[candid badger]

And why do so many grassroots not do anything for the game?

Like lucid is a grassroots partner still right?

[somber swift]

afaik, grassroots partners get a bit of support for building whatever they were already doing.

They basically get to giveaway nameplates/drops for their streams, and they get some 343 branding, and 343 will tweet out their events they decide to hold.

Europa is the only one of these still doing anything

[candid badger]

Swat nation had an event not too long ago

The btb I believe

[somber swift]

4 or 5 of these people don't even really play halo anymore

[somber swift]

that's true

[somber swift]

and there are many more that are previous partners, but not listed here anymore

[candid badger]

Like why is lucid a partner lol

[somber swift]

🤷‍♂️ I guess he has the option to do drops if he wants

[candid badger]

Probably got in, in hopes to get their stream numbers bumped up from drops.

[quiet prairie]

Halo Australia was already in a really bad shape at the start of the HCS year. When they learned that HCS was not doing anything in ANZ and with them. They dropped it

[tall mural]

Yep

[tall mural]

Also yep

[somber swift]

yeah

Mac has stepped up for that region

It's too bad, because the game looks really good, and is honestly pretty fun.

[tall mural]

Right

just no interest

[somber swift]

well, the game started really strong too, with positive fan feedback and critical acclaim at launch!

it just tripped over itself trying to deliver the seasonality and 'missing features' at the same time.

[quiet prairie]

"positive fan feedback" wouldn't say that at all

the game was really unstable. Especially on PC (+ btb was broken for 1 month after launch)

remember that the Kickoff was 4/5 hours late becaus of crashes

[torpid beacon]

Who out of those don't play halo

[somber swift]

echidna has stopped

taquin has been MIA

Monza is a lot less prominent now

some small entrants: https://twitter.com/soundwaveesport/status/1668331298044379136

Soundwave eSports (@soundwaveesport)

PROUD TO ANNOUCE OUR NEW
HALO TEAM
@Zev_JP
@kxngkxntaa
@Snorlax_DP
@stealinpotez

CANT WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR YOU GUYS

YES WE DO ALL FPS WE DO IT ALL

Twitter · Jun 12, 2023, 6:55 PM

[somber swift]

yay
https://twitter.com/BitterSweetGG/status/1668412293082750977

BitterSweet (@BitterSweetGG)

We are going to run it back for the @OpTic @HCS Major in Arlington with these gentleman.

See you all there 😤

Twitter · Jun 13, 2023, 12:17 AM

[tall mural]

W

[somber swift]

CHRIST:
https://twitter.com/Kuhlect_/status/1667985050150006785

Kuhlect (@Kuhlect_)

ARLINGTON PREP⚡️

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Twitter · Jun 11, 2023, 8:00 PM

[tall mural]

yes

[cold kayak]

[quiet prairie]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1668453106496196608

Funny as Quadrant have more points then Optic XD

so complexity seems to not have travel coverage

[somber swift]

For embed

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1668453106496196608?t=iUMv7x2GFlea5Qk8oe8Xzg&s=19

Halo Esports (@HCS)

Pools are set ahead of the #HCSArlington23 Major - Hosted by @OpTic!

💰 $250,000
📅 June 30 - July 2
🏆 https://t.co/TSlogcd5tB

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Twitter · Jun 13, 2023, 2:59 AM

[somber swift]

If you read the replies you'll see c9 and complexity both got travel

This is a nice HCS W for extending travel coverage to teams with less points than a partner team, as well as the partner

[quiet prairie]

ha ok, that must be new then

[somber swift]

It's actually apparently really old, from pre year 1, it's just a situation we haven't encountered until now

[quiet prairie]

https://liquipedia.net/halo/Halo_Championship_Series/2021-22/Kansas_City/Open_Bracket
G1 here

[brave raptor]

hey wait i live near Arlington

[somber swift]

?

[somber swift]

You should go to the event!
It'll be amazing and a huge show

[somber swift]

These are the results of the open bracket, not the seeds going into the open bracket, afaik.

[quiet prairie]

no its not, its travel coveradge, from the Regionals Open Championships. And G1 won coveradge

[torpid beacon]

I've got my sights on these open tournaments coming up watching hcs inspired me to take the plunge thanks again @somber swift for being such a big help

[somber swift]

I'm happy you are getting into it!

[somber swift]

I'm not sure what you are trying to show me

This is from 2022, complexity and g1 are not partner teams

[quiet prairie]

G1 was a partnered team and still is

[somber swift]

G1 is not and never was partnered

[quiet prairie]

with G2, its the same organization

[somber swift]

Not the game organization

It's not like native red and native white.

They have no affiliation

Confusing names, I know

[quiet prairie]

what ??? how ?

How have there be no court, especially in the US !

[somber swift]

G2 is european

G1 is actually named "Gamers First"

G1 is an abbreviation

[quiet prairie]

And G2 is the abreviation of what then ?

[somber swift]

It was originally Gamers2 but they changed officially to just G2 Esports

[quiet prairie]

Woaw, its so confusing ...

[quiet prairie]

So yeah, with that in mind, its a new situation

[somber swift]

🙂

[quiet prairie]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/designing-the-halo-esports-ecosystem-august
"You might find however that these partnered Teams get selected for Invitationals, show matches, and things along those lines where entertainment is the real goal"
So for Y1 or 2, I think it didn't happened right ?

[somber swift]

What didn't happen?

Special tournaments?

[quiet prairie]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/designing-the-halo-esports-ecosystem-june
"Each partnered Team’s roster and coach will also get their travel covered for every event they’re eligible for, even if they start in the open bracket. "
Found it

[somber swift]

Yes, this blog

[quiet prairie]

the selection of partnered for Invitiationals and special things

[somber swift]

I think the year 1 faze tournament and the eunited tournament were invitational, and didn't offer HCS points, and the partner teams got preference for those invitations

Year 2 invitational, including the snowdown, all had qualifier tournaments, so anyone could be eligible

[quiet prairie]

you're right

[somber swift]

Brb, driving now

[cobalt blade]

We know the top 12 teams going to HCS Arlington. Can someone explain how the open bracket works / who is competing?

[quiet prairie]

the open bracket is, like is name says, open to everyone wanting to compete (96 teams maximum). There is a pass to paid (refunded if the team goes to pool play) to participate.
Then it is a double elimination bracket

[somber swift]

And then the top 4 teams from open bracket get into pool play for Saturday

[cobalt blade]

Oh okay so they’ll compete in an online open bracket before the LAN?

[somber swift]

At lan

[quiet prairie]

no, its all in LAN

[somber swift]

On Friday

[quiet prairie]

(and Open Bracket is not streamed, but can be followed in the hcs gg site)

[cobalt blade]

Thanks for the info! So we won’t know the final pools until the day of the event when the open bracket ends?

[somber swift]

Registration for open bracket isn't live yet, so we don't know exactly who will be in it yet.

And for pools, you are correct.
We know 3/4 teams from each pool right now

[quiet prairie]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1668453106496196608

[quiet prairie]

In fact registration are not public for open bracket until the event

And its live : https://hcs.ee.gg/hcs23/arlington/4v4/passPurchase

[somber swift]

Team passes go on sale early though.
I can't recall when the actual bracket registration happens

[quiet prairie]

what's the difference ?

[somber swift]

I don't know, actually, if there is a difference or not

[quiet prairie]

I don't think so.
The FFA is not live however

[somber swift]

This is fun to think about
https://twitter.com/MattyRums/status/1668596255025405954?t=CwjIsK5Im4Xe6Nfo3xPfBw&s=19

MattyRums (@MattyRums)

If Pool Play was seeded by Global Team Points

Twitter · Jun 13, 2023, 12:28 PM

[tall mural]

Yippee

[tall mural]

Indeed

[tall mural]

Ahhh

That makes more sense

[somber swift]

totally, it's a very obscure 'rule' they put in place and only listed there.

not even in the handbook

[cobalt blade]

So the open bracket happens at the event on the Friday morning? And we won’t know the final pools until the morning of the event?

[somber swift]

Friday all day, not just morning

[somber swift]

the last 4 teams that qualify for pools will be known at the end of the Open bracket, late friday night

IIRC, they typically show some pool play games on broadcast between the existing known pool play teams on Friday - then Saturday all the teams that qualified through Open will need to play their 3 games against their pool opponents.

afaik

we can look back at HCS twitter to find the broadcast schedule from Charlotte to confirm - it'll be similar

but hopefully they also choose to broadcast the final Open bracket matches this time. - Not sure they will

[cobalt blade]

I’m asking because my friends and I did some fantasy Halo during Dreamhack, but it doesn’t seem like we’ll know the confirmed pools before the event starts. So we can’t draft our teams beforehand.

We knew the 16 teams for Dreamhack but only know 12 for Arlington.

[somber swift]

because dreamhack had no open bracket - it was an 'invitational' and all teams had to earn their place in advance

[quiet prairie]

please 343 ❤️

[cobalt blade]

Okay so we’ll have to draft players before the event and hope they finish top 4 in the open bracket. Risky but also fun.

Isn’t that what happened to Native Red in Charlotte? They didn’t get out of open bracket because of the Druk situation?

[somber swift]

you could do 2 different drafts if you want.

You could do a pre-draft: where you speculate yourself and guess which players might make it out of the Open bracket.
You might bet right, or wrong.

Then you could also do a second draft, after the Open bracket winners are known - this would have all known players.

[somber swift]

oh yeah, just what I was typing 🙂

[cobalt blade]

One last question: those final 4 spots go to anyone or is it one team per region?

I assume anyone since it’s “open”

[somber swift]

Native red for Charlotte qualified for pools originally, but because they had to play with a replacement, they lost their Pool Play automatic spot, and had to fight through the Open bracket.
They ended up making it into pools by winning in Open

[somber swift]

anyone

the only regional benefits for the Open is that the top teams from each region that didn't qualify for pools, they get their airfare, accommodation, and registration covered by HCS.

But then they still need to perform and win in open bracket - no handouts for regions there.

[tall mural]

Why does mx only get one travel coverage spot but every other region gets two

Hcs makes no sense and it hurts my brain

My little ponys 🥺

[candid badger]

Kind of bs imo.

[tall mural]

Precisely

Plus CoL and c9 get open travel coverage just from being partners…

So really NA gets 4

[candid badger]

Are there any ANZ or MX partnered teams?

Or have been?

[tall mural]

Nope

[quiet prairie]

and its clearly not going to, regions are not active enough :/

[tall mural]

luminosity is a cool org 🤷‍♂️

[tall mural]

Hcs killed them themselves lmao

[quiet prairie]

true :/

[somber swift]

I think it's because they realized many of the players can't secure Visas, so extending a 3rd team is almost pointless

[somber swift]

I would think that HCS would rather their partner teams have done well enough to qualify for pools on their own merit.
So in this sense, HCS isn't happy about it - but they actually help the scene by offering more travel overall.

If for some reason Quadrant or Navi weren't good enough to win in their region and earn pools/travel coverage, then a different 4 EU teams would, and then navi/quad would still get travel coverage based on their partnership

[quiet prairie]

remember that the org have booth, so if they don't have a team at the major...

[somber swift]

yeah, it just makes sense for HCS to always cover the travel cost of partner teams, it's the right thing to do - it benefits the whole ecosystem

[tall mural]

true

[tall mural]

Yeah but also Mexico is literally bordering the U.S. and Texas so it wouldn’t cost them much anyways

[somber swift]

if the players are unable to legally enter the US it's an issue

[tall mural]

true

But they have issues with that in the others regions too don’t they. Druk and Tchik

(I understand Tchik had his passport stolen but the idea is the same)

[somber swift]

significantly smaller percentage of the playerbase of NA/EU players have issues with visas

I'm thinking it's entirely possible that you could see multiple members of MX top 4 rosters unable to secure visas after 'earning' travel coverage - and then at that point the integrity of the coverage system is kinda chalked - you start putting in subs and such, and it's a mess

top 2 MX rosters though?
More likely MX region will self-organize to ensure 8 players have visas

[quiet prairie]

I think in Y1 there was a Major were almost all MX teams could'nt come

https://liquipedia.net/halo/Halo_Championship_Series/2021/Kickoff_Major
First one : 0 MX team XD

[tall mural]

💀💀💀

Hcs Mexico City was so hype as a lan tho

So like the scene can live

[quiet prairie]

It would have been really great for them yes.
Same for London (but Optic stole it from us...)

[tall mural]

yep

[somber swift]

I'm also reading the Waypoint post and struggling to see the rules for who would be eligible for Pool Play in Raleigh

Here's what got announced on Twitter

But here were the results of the qualifiers:
https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1467307968655867908

Halo Esports (@HCS)

ICYMI: Your @HCS Kickoff Major Raleigh 2021 Pool Play Qualified Teams!

• NA
  @Sentinels
  @OpTic
  Inconceivable
  @eUnited
  @G2esports
  @Cloud9
  @PioneersGG
  @OXG_Esports

• EU
  Cartel
  OEX
  @natusvincere
  HMDA

• MX
  @KnightsGG
  @FireNIceEsports
  @_LeaveNoWitness

• ANZ
  Nutribullet

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Twitter · Dec 5, 2021, 1:40 AM

Of course, we know what happened to Sentinels - Royal 2

Xset took their spot

What happened to PK, Fire n Ice and Leavenowitness?

inconceivable = faze at that time

[tame sandal]

The issue isn't being close, the issue is the government allowing you in. One of the main reasons why visas are hard to obtain for some folks is because the US embassy has to investigate you and determine you're only going to the US for travel/events and plan to return to your country of origin, instead of entering the country and never coming back.

i.e. a middle-high class businessman with a stable job and six figure salary will be more eligible for a visa, while a middle-low class worker may have to offer more proof that they're going to go back to their country, or may be rejected overall.

It's not a nice system, but that's how Homeland Security decided to handle it.

[tame sandal]

Afaik PK disbanded after their roster was purchased by SSG, and hasn't made a move to get new players yet, if they're ever planning to.

[somber swift]

NA
Sentinel -> Xset
Optic Optic
Inconceivable = Faze
Eunited Eunited
G2 G2
C9 C9
Pioneers Pioneers
OXG OXG

EU
Cartel ?
OEX ?
Navi Navi
HMDA ?
(guessing the ? ones became Quadrant, Ascend and Bing Chilling?)

MX
Pitsburgh - when did they become the MX SSG team?
Fire N Ice
Leave No Witness
(I'm guessing replaced by the Boys EU, SSG from NA, Divine Mind from ANZ for some reason)
If so, then I think 2 MX teams here that earned pools couldn't attend, so they gave the spots to others, and SSG at the time was an NA team?

ANZ
Nutribullet (did they become Chiefs?)

[somber swift]

I'm also really confused by this because based on the tweet 3 MX teams would've been in pools and only 1 ANZ

this is also super confusing
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/hcs-raleigh-2021

I'm glad the blogs and messaging has improved since then.

[noble field]

Looking forward to XSet vs Acend.

[somber swift]

Lol

[somber swift]

Yeah, and he's cookin right now on twitter, too

[somber swift]

I love FormaL, but imagine a world where Optic wins Anaheim 2022, and Pistola is still playing Halo

[noble field]

That is a better world. Became a huge fan of him at my first event when he was on Triggers Down in H3. Probably my favorite pro.

[gloomy bridge]

U think he could’ve improved?

Or did he legit hit a wall

[noble field]

I mean the game had only been out for a month or two. I actually think the biggest improved pro from launch to now is Lethul. Guy used to look like he was playing in sand. Now he moves and plays much better. It wasn’t an age thing in my opinion.

[somber swift]

Optic and Envy merged, so it's still likely FormaL ends up on Optic, but Pistola wouldn't have had the same type of exit, and probably could've made it onto another top 3 team.

[quiet prairie]

Visa issue, all of them. (its in the notes in liquipedia)

[somber swift]

damn!

[quiet prairie]

And you can add, that some countries are black-listed and some are half-black listed (like Mexico)

[somber swift]

you're not wrong but we should probably leave it at that

[quiet prairie]

Anyway, 1 month without any competition is a little bit sad ...

They could have made some FFA, I don't know

[somber swift]

Yeah, it's not ideal going this long.

especially since the last one was an invitational, so a lot of teams haven't played anything meaningful in longer

[torpid beacon]

Cartel became Ascend

[quiet prairie]

Still Acend, but yes.
And Cartel is a french team from Halo 5 (its all of Quadrant + old players who were in Acend)

[tall mural]

https://halo-esports.fandom.com/wiki/Halo_Championship_Series/2022_Season/Kickoff_Major_Raleigh Scroll a bit where it says qualified teams, it’s all summarized under there

Nutribullet is signed by Chiefs Esports Club.
2 Sentinels forfeits seed following suspension of Royal2. They are replaced by XSET.
3 OEX is signed by Quadrant.
4 Inconceivable is signed by FaZe Clan.
5 Cartel is signed by Acend.
6 Pittsburgh Knights, Fire N Ice Esports, and LeaveNoWitness Gaming are unable to attend and are replaced by Spacestation Gaming, The Boys, and Divine Mind.
7 HMDA renames to Bing Chilling.

^^

[noble field]

Couple of scrim trends that are interesting:

Optic crushing it. 9-0 against N8V Red and 9-3 N8V White.

Shopify hasn’t played anyone too great yet, but crushing it as well. 16-1 Proton, 13-4 Complexity, and 7-2 Status Quo.

Sentinels looking similar, 12-5 Incognito, 11-6 Complexity, and 15-2 Cloud9.

And N8V White 7-5 over SSG.

[tall mural]

Hmmmm

[gloomy bridge]

9-0 broo they ain’t messing

[noble field]

Once again, online scrims is not too much. N8V Red is struggling. Lost to Complexity tonight 8-6. But interesting to see.

[quiet prairie]

Quadrant have a bootcamp next week

[somber swift]

back in NA?

Did they fly home for a bit?

[quiet prairie]

of course they flow home, it wouldn't be possible to stay 1 month in the state (visa + cost)

[quiet prairie]

not clear. Might be

[somber swift]

SSG Spectator tickets for the Invitational on sale now:
https://www.spacestationgaming.com/hcs-global-invitational

[quiet prairie]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/spacestation2023

[somber swift]

This actually potentially hurts EU teams.

It's not likely 2 EU teams make it top top 8 in Arlington - meaning there's a good chance only 3 EU teams will go to SLC.

Didn't Dallas have 4?

[quiet prairie]

yup.
More and more NA centric. As said in the beginning of the year

[somber swift]

It's technically more 'competitive' centric.

[quiet prairie]

ok

its an invitational...

[somber swift]

if several of the mid-high level NA teams perform poorly at Arlington, perhaps the like of Quadrant, Navi, ex-awobab all make it to top 8 - that would actually mean MORE EU teams at SLC than Dallas

[quiet prairie]

riiiight

[somber swift]

they're simply offering more spots guaranteed to the best performing teams.

So it's more competitive centric.

it just so happens that NA teams tend to outperform EU teams (and all regions)

[quiet prairie]

NA centric

because its not the same tier of teams...

[somber swift]

that's up to the players, and how good they are

[quiet prairie]

You got against Tier 1 teams against T2 teams..

But have less teams... so less possibilities to train.
All of our players went to other games or quit because in Europe there other games, in esport, that are more stable and that care more about Europe

[somber swift]

I'm actually most interested in what's happening with the Qualifier tournaments that were listed

this is still listed on the roadmap

[quiet prairie]

not happening in the end ?
Because only points are listed there. Or the "qualifier" are just giving points and not seeding...
Don't know

[quiet prairie]

yes, I'm in a bad mood...

[somber swift]

I'm guessing the most likely is those are either cancelled, or just going to be turned into a normal 4K to offer points to help get there.

Or they might change everything again and offer the top 1 from each of this online to get in as well.
Who knows.
But I've asked: https://twitter.com/AshamanND/status/1669434984883716096

[quiet prairie]

The worst in this : SSG is making a fun-themed competition. But (following youre logic) its more about competitive seeding (aka more NA)

[somber swift]

the tournament always needs to be competitive if it's HCS based.
But the event is going to be super fun, 100%

[quiet prairie]

Yes, but you can change the threshold. And its ALWAYS non-NA region that take the fall...

The price is 50$ for 3 days ! That's so low !

[somber swift]

yeah, the spectator tickets are an amazing deal

[quiet prairie]

• the codes !

[somber swift]

yep

I think they want to sell it out

[quiet prairie]

ok, that's really, really good stuff

[somber swift]

Dallas was very different, and it made sense - top 1 from MX, ANZ, EU online 4Ks - top 2 from NA Faze '4k'
Then after that it was 8 more NA points and 3 more EU points.

[quiet prairie]

Well the ANZ and MX only in a qualfiier was not great in fact

[somber swift]

now - we're 'ignoring' the SSG Qualifier tournaments (unless the newest blog is an error) and we're going just off top 8 Overall Arlington, and then HCS points after that (1 MX, 1 ANZ, 2 EU, 4 NA)

If this new blog is the final truth - perhaps this is HCS's way of dealing with online cheating accusations?

[quiet prairie]

Lets remember that there is a decay of points the 23rd of June

[quiet prairie]

+Optic and ANZ and MX qualifications

[somber swift]

Because what could have happened is say you get a whole team in ANZ or EU that decides to cheat in 1 online tournament, and if they win they would've got automatic invite. Now it's not based on winning that online, but just your overall points - so if your team was garbage before, you likely don't get enough points to be first in your region.
It also avoids the possibility of a whole team in NA doing the same (like people accused Monstcr)

[quiet prairie]

If there was cheating they would loose the spot.
But i prefer HCS points more then Qualifier when there is 1 place

Of course we all know that the Split 2 has only 1 tournement so... yeah not great at all

[somber swift]

cheating is too hard to prove

[quiet prairie]

-> 343 have tools

(and again 6 weeks between last Major and HWC...) If there is on top of that a "pause" at the end of the year... ho boy a complete stoppage of competition from September to ?january?

[somber swift]

I imagine they're going to want to try another offseason tournament, but it would be hard.

[quiet prairie]

if it is like it was last year ... NA only, Optic thing (stealing a London Major by the way)

[somber swift]

offseason would be online only, i think

[quiet prairie]

ok course not saying otherwise

but i have no hope because Split 2 is already empty...

[somber swift]

🤷‍♂️

[noble field]

There are no splits. It’s essentially one 9 month season. Don’t get the need for splits.

[quiet prairie]

in rules, there is splits

[somber swift]

There is a points decay

[quiet prairie]

that is named "split 1"

why making a decay if there is no split 2 ?

[somber swift]

Doesn't matter the specific 'title' of the timing, just the funciton of what happens, and what happens is definitely a points decay at a specific point in time, @noble field

Basically points earned up until including Charlotte have already decayed.

And points leading up to Arlington will decay 'at' arlington - but the arlington points themselves will stay full until end of year

[noble field]

I get it but it’s just a title. Could say there is a mid season decay and move on.

[noble field]

That way teams/players can’t just do well early and be forever seeded the rest of the year.

[quiet prairie]

so a second split

[somber swift]

🤷‍♂️ I dunno - it's a common nomenclature thing
I dunno how other leagues call it

[quiet prairie]

A split is just a division of a season. So if there is a decay, it make a split.
The fact that there is 2 Majors can be too consider to make a split.
And again, its in the rules. So don't really understant why you say this CNF

Of course, this year, the split 2 is (for now) only 2 tournements (without the Major) Be there can be non-HCS too ? Donno

[noble field]

I get most eSports call their mid season a split but I feel like it is being forced here. I also have been following professional (US) sports my whole life and never seen anything called a split like that. I guess what I’m saying is calling in Split 2 is forcing the title for no reason and the you have people like Lematth (correctly) saying it’s almost empty. Makes HCS look bad and it isn’t needed really.

[tall mural]

Hcs is so weird

[quiet prairie]

"Makes HCS look bad and it isn’t needed really." -> they did it to themselves with the decay and nothing after it...

In Europe the equivalent of a split is exacly a mid-season. (we don't have real playoffs)

[somber swift]

I guess that's why they don't use the words 'split 2" anywhere in the document, simply split 1 and decay

[quiet prairie]

(and preseason too)

[noble field]

This

[somber swift]

blog updated:
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/spacestation2023

so SSG Invitational is:

Top 8 from Arlington
Top 2 From NA Qualifier
Top 1 from EU Qualifier
Top 1 from MX Qualifier
Top 1 from ANZ Qualifier
And then:
Top 2 NA on HCS Points
Top 1 EU on HCS Points

[noble field]

Let’s assume Quadrant plus Faze, SSG, Optic, N8V Red, and N8V White are 6/8 of the Top8 at Arlington. That leaves six spots left for NA or five spots if Navi can get Top8. Shopify, Sentinels, G1, Incognito, and Complexity gotta be five of those spots. So one spot left for C9, Proton, Status Quo, etc. Been a tough year for teams not in the Top12 NA. No wonder why the talent has all consolidated. It’s the haves and the have nots at this point. With that said the qualifier having two NA does gives those team a shot if they can beat Incognito, Complexity, etc.

…so who is picking up Monster for that qualifier? 😂

[somber swift]

I'm thinking there will be 11 NA teams at SSG

those last 2 spots for NA based on points are gonna be highly contestested - we might see more roster mania yet.

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1669504746879864832

Halo Esports (@HCS)

Heads up competitors - we made a change regarding how teams will qualify for the #HCSSLC23 Global Invitational in August.

For more info, check out the Tournament Format on the event page below!

🧑‍🚀 https://t.co/e4VtnD59Zj

Twitter · Jun 16, 2023, 12:38 AM

[noble field]

@somber swift I like how Magic Moon tagged you on the SSG update. 😂

[somber swift]

Haha, yup, I've got a reputation it seems

[tame sandal]

Well earned

[quiet prairie]

Well, again ANZ and MX dont use HCS points :/

[quiet prairie]

Don't understand why making a "pre-qualifier" too, might be NA only

[somber swift]

Pre qualifier is just the same as the overall 4k format

[quiet prairie]

so its only an open bracket ? Or is it the qualifier of the qualifier ?

[somber swift]

Pre qualifier determines who can play in the qualifier, just like the 4k tournaments had 2 parts

[quiet prairie]

so useless for almost all region then :/

[somber swift]

Why

[quiet prairie]

Lets just put an normal open for ANZ

There is not enough team

ANZ qualifier was cancelled
MX and EU had 18 teams...
Totally useless to make a qualifier of a qualifier

[somber swift]

ANZ qualifier wasn't necessarily 'cancelled' it just 'concluded without contest' - 8 teams signed up, and only 8 would've advanced to the following tournament.
MX and EU each had 18 in the pre-qualifier and 6 move straight to the 4k finals, so they both had 24 teams sign up - that's still something worth playing through.

It gives opportunity for amateur players to still feel involved and enjoy what HCS has to offer at some level

They need to offer the same opportunity to ANZ players, even if no more than 8 teams sign up

[quiet prairie]

Yes, so just making 2 tournements, not 1 qualifier and 1 "pre-qualifier". So that i can be broadcast each time and have 2 opportunities to win. -> more competitive
And again ANZ's qualifier was cancelled. Because they could have juste played the 4k that day and make another (2k without money) the week after

[somber swift]

the previous ANZ 4k in mid april actually had 4 teams compete for the final 2 spots in the final pools, so there's still some people that play the game there.

"And again ANZ's qualifier was cancelled" We're getting into semantics here so I won't bother with this part.

[quiet prairie]

https://liquipedia.net/halo/Halo_Championship_Series/2023/Split_1/ANZ/Open_Series/5
9 teams...

[quiet prairie]

Did they play ? No.

[somber swift]

"Because they could have just played the 4k that day and make another (2k without money) the week after"

They won't do this, because of scheduling and keeping this equal across regions.

[somber swift]

I already said I'm not going to bother arguing this point further.

[quiet prairie]

Why bother when HCS points doesn't count ?

[somber swift]

hcs points still count for seeding.

remember, when it comes to Fort Worth, ANZ will likely still get 2 open bracket travel teams 🙂

[quiet prairie]

-> not between region.

[somber swift]

https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/a6d5a294-9e2a-4482-ac01-843849d36253/ANZ HCS 4K Qualifier 04-16/teams?group=1
4 signed up for the pre-qualifier, and then 2 of them advanced along to join the other 6 in the final day

[somber swift]

HCS is still going to run tournaments on Faceit in an equal fashion across regions, regardless is cross regional points matter or not.

[quiet prairie]

And that's a shame... That's what I'm saying

[somber swift]

It'll be interesting to see what happens for a potential Year 3

I don't think they do a LOT of planning for year 3 yet, but they might have a general outline of their ideas/goals.

But I remember Tashi's interview about year 2 prep, and he said they couldn't do much until most of year 1 was completed, because they are so busy executing the year 1 events.

[quiet prairie]

Ho boy... its going to worse again :/
(NA will be mostly fine)

Maybe they are figuring for the september-december gap ?

[somber swift]

The reason I think it will be interesting for year 3, is because I believe by then the game will have had a lot of updates and probably feel and play fairly well - it should be into MP seaosn 5/6 by then.
But at the same time we can see the overall reduction in amateur players in HCS.

So I'll be interested to see if 343/MS decides to give a budget to do even at least 1 international event for Year 3.

I also want to state that I do think a year 3 WILL exist (unless something catastrophic happens).

[somber swift]

even if they do decide to do any international events, I don't think they'll go back to a similar format as year 1.

I do no think they will do regional LANs.

If there are international LANs, I think they will be global, just my prediction.

[quiet prairie]

->fact !
-> There will be at least still be 2 MAjors, 1 World. With at least some EU and MX.
-> Totally aggree. 343/MS will not let go esport.

[somber swift]

I don't know if they will do any official HCS LAN in MX next year - I would guess it's in EU

[quiet prairie]

No idea. Its up to cost and possibilities.

[somber swift]

true - there are some benefits to doing in MX

might be cheaper.
Also, the timezone for NA viewing audience is better

but the ticket prices would also be cheaper

[quiet prairie]

And like Tashi said "when an event happens in Europe, it's like there is nothing"

[somber swift]

He was referring to that being a Local region only LAN though

so no NA players or MX or ANZ

[quiet prairie]

Yes, but its viewership first.

[somber swift]

London HCS global LAN was a great success - viewership was good

[quiet prairie]

Maybe, but HCs need to work with local streamers and organizer too... And that, they showed that do not have the will and the money to do it. (lets just watch co-streamers from Y1 with NA only.... uselessness/20)

[somber swift]

I don't understand

[quiet prairie]

They did not used local manpower to be relay of influence in esport in Europe or any other region.

And in the Y1 they made co-streamers only NA streamers. Not even their grassroots member.

[somber swift]

ah

[quiet prairie]

They did better this year however (too late, I think...) with grassroots included and RT on Twitter.

But using local streamers and organizers for LAN. I don't think they can (money, knowledge and will).

[somber swift]

I guess we'll see what they end up announcing for locations in year 3, first.

[quiet prairie]

trolling : all in Texas again

[noble field]

I would bet at least one is. 😂

[quiet prairie]

One is ok, especially when we know that there is 2 partnered team's sieges

[somber swift]

oh man, could you imagine?

I would bet not in texas next year

0 in year 1, but 3 in year 2 - I think they'll try to hit other markets

[quiet prairie]

but the money ! And Optic

[somber swift]

I guess it might come down to if any partner teams want to host one.
If Optic wants to step up again, we'll see one there.

[quiet prairie]

Leaderboard from ranked might be usefull to find teamate for HCS

[summer skiff]

Depending on how successful this and the next Major go, I wouldn't be surprised if they do two events in Texas next year

[somber swift]

I think all the NA LANs were successful last year except anaheim because of COVID

[noble field]

I would think Optic steps up again for at least one. I think the partnered teams will be stepping up more and more in this regard. The idea behind Texas this year was that it was centrally located in the US. Easy to get to everyone compared to the coasts. I can see two again for sure.

[summer skiff]

If they want central US, there's also Chicago...

[candid badger]

Do one in Montana

[somber swift]

...

[candid badger]

Orrr Canada needs love. Maybe then druk can make a lan

[tall mural]

Columbus, Ohio 🤔🤔

[summer skiff]

Hey, I wouldn't complain

[somber swift]

Toronto or Montreal would be awesome

[tall mural]

Toronto would be a banger

[noble field]

My best guess is they end up going to states that give money to them to come in. Helps states/cities out with tourism. I don’t think Canada or Illinois is doing that.

[somber swift]

hmmm, yeah, I think the tax benefits or grants for sure make a difference

[noble field]

Yea I don’t think HCS is rolling in the dough where it can just ignore that and go wherever.

[noble field]

Optic is crushing in scrims. Four scrims since rostermania. 37-6 total. 9-3 N8V White, 9-0 N8V Red, 10-1 Shopify, and 9-2 N8V White.

[torpid beacon]

@somber swift @tall mural Birmingham

[somber swift]

Sup?

[torpid beacon]

One of the places to hold an event

[somber swift]

Oh cool, yeah

[torpid beacon]

@noble field Are you saying that as you hate to have an event there

[torpid beacon]

Do you actually mean it ?

[somber swift]

yeah, why not?

[quiet prairie]

I don't think if a LAN is to be hold in Europe its going to be in Birmingham.

[tall mural]

Birmingham Alabama?

[quiet prairie]

there is a Birmingham in Alabama ?

[gloomy bridge]

ya one of alabama's biggest cities

[tall mural]

What Birmingham were y’all thinking of 💀💀💀

[quiet prairie]

same
The real one ^^

[tall mural]

brueh

[noble field]

I wouldn’t hate to have an event anywhere. I go to maybe one a year and will pick a fun one to go to. With that said I can’t imagine HCS wanting to be there. Too low of a population. It’s 200k people and not much else outside of that. Raleigh has 500k and Charlotte has 900k. Arlington is only 400k but just outside of Dallas. Anaheim is 375k but just outside of Los Angeles which is 3.8M. Seattle makes sense as their HQ and has 750k. The only comparable is the the crazy idea to have an event in Salt Lake City, which is comparable to Birmingham at 200k and also not much else around it either to draw from. However, SSG is hosting the event and are located in Salt Lake City as I believe the founder of the company is Mormon. Birmingham is likely too small of a draw for HCS to want to be there.

[torpid beacon]

Birmingham has 1.3 million people. I'm talking about Birmingham in the UK. There are less then 10 cities in the USA which has a higher population then Birmingham.

[torpid beacon]

@noble field Here top 10 cities by population in UK and USA. So these are the best places to host events (Except for London and New York) 1) London 8.8 million (UK) 2) New York 8.5 million (USA) 3) Los Angeles 3.9 million (USA) 4) Chicago 2.7 million (USA) 5) Houston 2.3 million (USA) 6) Phoenix 1.6 million (USA) 7) Philadelphia 1.6 million (USA) 8) San Antonio 1.5 million (USA) 9) San Diego 1.4 million (USA) 10) Birmingham 1.3 million (UK)

@tall mural @quiet prairie @gloomy bridge

[quiet prairie]

comparing Uk and USA... not the same global population

[torpid beacon]

I know but it would be could to have 1 international event in the EU next year

[quiet prairie]

I know, i want to.
But you just can't compare population between US and UK and you just demonstrated perfectly, only 2 UK towns appeared.

Population is only one factor too.
Pricing, local taxes, infrastructures (to come and to host the event), do the local community is active (i see you Valencia)

[torpid beacon]

The UK has 10% of halos population tho.

[quiet prairie]

OK and ?
Don't the link better overall population of town and this infos

[umbral siren]

Anyone know what ever happened in that liverpool lan yesterday?

[torpid beacon]

It means there should be a international tournament there as they hasn't been one since 2018

[noble field]

I was thinking Alabama this whole time man. Agreed that there should be an EU event each year, especially if it’s an online qualifier and HCS pays for travel for top16 teams.

[gloomy bridge]

if its gona happen it'd be london no doubt

[quiet prairie]

Or Paris 🙂 (or near it)

[candid badger]

Quadrant should host a lan if that happens

[quiet prairie]

Don't know if they have the shoulder for that. Its not a big and old organisazation

[craggy burrow]

Seattle's well over a million now I think.

[torpid beacon]

Seattle has 750,000

[mortal musk]

in this context you wanna compare the agglomeration's population, not the city's though

because the city's figure is more about the administrative arrangement/history then the actual size of the settlement

Seattle is the centre one of the biggest agglomerations in the US I think?

I would guess the whole settlement is comparable if not bigger then Birmingham UK

[torpid beacon]

Yeah but 70% of the UK 68 million population are within 4 hours of driving to Birmingham. So if we are taking it your way then Seattle shouldn't even be considered having an event over Birmingham

[somber swift]

If HCS had to choose between doing an event in Birmingham UK and Seattle, they would choose Seattle every time.

If HCS was committed to doing an event in the UK specifically, they might consider Birmingham.

[mortal musk]

it would be London tbh

Can get a non-stop train from every UK city and European cities

not to mention the air connections

well not a "non-stop train" but without having to change lol

[quiet prairie]

"from every UK city and European cities" -not at all.
Its impossible. You will have to change train if you come from any place south of Paris or in Germany

For Berlin you need at least to change in Hannover and Amsterdam

[somber swift]

Scrims:
https://twitter.com/NoobComboCom/status/1670819581961674752

NoobCombo.com (@NoobComboCom)

Scrim results for NA from Friday, June 16th - to Sunday, June 18th via @HaloDataHive.

You can find detailed player, mode, and gametype statistics at https://t.co/Nw0W7qsqQi.

Twitter · Jun 19, 2023, 3:43 PM

[somber swift]

Newest Optic Audio Network podcast is really insightful.
They had Lethul and Ace on, and they were VERY raw and honest

They use some choice language, so I won't link it, but you can search it up on youtube.
Worth a watch

[quiet prairie]

"choice language" ? what does that mean ?

[somber swift]

NSFW

[quiet prairie]

ha ? But they talked about HCS ?

[somber swift]

yes, a lot

also, Lethul showed how he feels about his former teammates - he's basically saying they are dead to him.

Cold hearted stuff

[quiet prairie]

don't really understand how it wan be not "safe for work" them. its a podcast then ?

[somber swift]

just stuff you can't repeat here, that's all

[quiet prairie]

there is lots of stuff we can't say here XD But ok
Lethul is in Sentinels, so he tells that to optic ex-teamate, in an optic podcast ?

[somber swift]

two people that are members of the Optic organization with a history in Halo run a podcast.

They had two guests on the show this week, they happened to be Lethul and Ace

They talked about a lot of things.

[quiet prairie]

ok, thx for some context then

[somber swift]

Lethul
"I care, but I don't care"
lol

Lots of timestamps in the video.
They talk a lot about Halo history too

[quiet prairie]

Yeah thats good.

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/Elumnite/status/1670852807274922006

Marcus Lovejoy (@Elumnite)

Today is my last day with @G1Official. I want to give a massive thank you to @kennyvaccaro for the opportunity! Much love to all the staff and players as well!

Twitter · Jun 19, 2023, 5:55 PM

Given their team imploded, I wonder if they're scaling back their investment in Infinite

[quiet prairie]

Do you know when Eli the NiNjA was no more Coach but analyst ?

[somber swift]

there are several theories about that

Eli made an official statement about it some time ago, but there are many 'behind the scenes' theories abotu it too

https://twitter.com/EliTheNinja/status/1604241687571726344

G1 Eli the NiNjA (@EliTheNinja)

Stepping down as the G1 Halo Coach

Read: https://t.co/yDphcaZa1Y

Likes

197

Twitter · Dec 17, 2022, 10:26 PM

[tall mural]

Bet

[tall mural]

Hoaxer is still with them I would assume

[quiet prairie]

for now yes

[somber swift]

I think so

[somber swift]

So....
https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1670929622308110336

Halo Esports (@HCS)

Heads up HCS Competitors: Starting with the #HCSArlington23 Major, Open Bracket players will now be eligible to compete with players from other regions!

See more details below, and be sure to check out the Player Handbook for all Rules and Conditions!

👉 https://t.co/xXOPUXGJ1H

Twitter · Jun 19, 2023, 11:00 PM

[somber swift]

New Player Handbook Link - to update current pins:
https://wpassets.halowaypoint.com/wp-content/2023/06/HCS_2023_Program_Handbook_v1.3.pdf

Never mind, Stckr's link is a permanent pointer to the most current HB

[cold kayak]

[noble field]

Waiting for the QOL update. That is what I’m most curious about to be honest.

[somber swift]

More official https://twitter.com/NativeGaming/status/1671148396470566912?t=hU308P6o1KzMQnfspyCN-g&s=19

Native Gaming (@NativeGaming)

With his impressive performances at @HCS Dallas, we couldn't just keep him as a stand-in for Arlington

Welcome to the roster @BoammX

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 20, 2023, 1:30 PM

[torpid beacon]

So Druk has been fired

[grim forum]

Is penguin still on ssg?

[somber swift]

No, he's "on the bench" and Native wanted to have Boamx be an official replacement with Salary, probably

[somber swift]

Yes

[grim forum]

I heard they were scrimming with a smurf account

[torpid beacon]

So Druk can't compete RIP

[somber swift]

🤷roster lock was awhile ago

[somber swift]

Seems like the case

[gloomy bridge]

is boamx rlly as gud tho

[somber swift]

he performed well in Dallas

They don't have a choice though really, if Druk can't enter the USA

[gloomy bridge]

[signal crag]

How is Optic doing rn haven't caught up yet with HCS

[tall mural]

Placed 3rd at Dallas

[signal crag]

Dang

[simple talon]

The Athlon Helmet says HCS... why??

Do I unlock it by Watching HCS?? What's that all about?

[tall mural]

Idk

[somber swift]

can you send me a screenshot?

[simple talon]

One sec

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/RichieHeinz/status/1671202055158104065

Richie Heinz (@RichieHeinz)

@AutoMATTikk @LogiicGG Apologies - just seeing this. Argyle and Empyrean CTF will be 3 captures to win at HCS Arlington.

Twitter · Jun 20, 2023, 5:03 PM

[somber swift]

More puzzle pieces.
Running an esports organization is hard
https://twitter.com/jackiewolf24/status/1671272736591687680

Jackie (@jackiewolf24)

Got laid off from @G1Official today. Extremely caught off guard, but I will be exploring new opportunities in and out of esports.

I've worn many hats and managed many projects, but specialize in Events, Community, and Socials.

Dms are open, vouches/shares appreciated 💛

Twitter · Jun 20, 2023, 9:44 PM

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/AscendBaseline/status/1671290761034481665

卂scending 乃aseline (@AscendBaseline)

We are thrilled to announce the lineup of our team representing Ascending Baseline at the HCS Major Arlington. Join us in cheering for @SuperCC_Evades, Articc, @PoseyxR, and @Envore as they look to dominate the competition! We are beyond excited and can't wait to see them in…

Twitter · Jun 20, 2023, 10:55 PM

[tall mural]

W

[torpid beacon]

Yo

I feel the BR is jamming. Also, i feel like they downed the bullet magnetism

Is it just me or it is the case then?.

[tiny sparrow]

they would mention adjusting weapon mechanics

[torpid beacon]

Ngl i really feel like that

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/RobTheTurtle_/status/1671353255882899457

Rob (@RobTheTurtle_)

Myself @PiLEZHCS @lts_Name and @ShockSZN are The Shell at HCS Arlington. 🐢 strong.

Twitter · Jun 21, 2023, 3:04 AM

[umbral siren]

Have any of ur games installed yet

[scenic rover]

How come SSG doesn't have the Akriveia BR in its weapon bundle but the other team does?

[candid badger]

It's bugged for some people.

[scenic rover]

Dang guess I'll go put a ticket in then

[candid badger]

Do it, several people have.

[somber swift]

They should now

[noble field]

Rob The Turtle announced he was retiring after the first Infinite event over a year ago. I swear he has played in every event afterwards. 😂

[somber swift]

Hahaha

[tall mural]

Haines too

[somber swift]

I don't think he's played in many events though

[woeful cypress]

can we make the game actually require skill on the sticks and make bandit the primary weapon for ranked arena?

[candid badger]

^ ranked slayer is my favorite mode rn because of bandit. I drop ar right of the bat. Bandit is love, bandit is life

[grim forum]

That would be horrible.

[woeful cypress]

yeah it would be horrible if ranked games actually required skill.

[grim forum]

Yes it would. 🤡

[past geode]

Hi, I wish it was possible to purchase the previous HCS skins as I couldn't buy them at the time and I would like to be able to use them separately and not just with the armor kit.

[tall mural]

maybe eventually

[gloomy bridge]

I’d be down, needs a scope for the duels

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/alemanzur144/status/1671648452000858115

[tall mural]

Common Latam moment tbh

Good for 6k tho

Nugget is shooting back

[pale frost]

Hello People

[halcyon nebula]

sup bro

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/Bound2K/status/1671866207748620292?t=UKiflbFUSi4NerJP8zE6ig&s=19

[somber swift]

What?
https://twitter.com/G1Official/status/1671911000981872644

"Today we say goodbye to Bubudubu, Falcated, and Suppressed.

While we couldn’t reach our full potential with this roster, we wish them all well in their respective journeys from here. As for Sabinater, we will assist him in finding his new home, while continuing to have him on the bench here at G1."

Isn't Sab on Incognito?

Maybe because Incognito isn't a salaried roster with an org - I guess that means G1 is still paying him - that's a solid W

[noble field]

That’s hysterical.

[noble field]

That is dope. This alone probably saves a lot of credit and goodwill amongst the Halo pros for anything that comes up in the future.

[somber swift]

New tournament sign ups posted on faceit today

https://www.faceit.com/en/organizers/c96b93cb-c3cc-4956-8394-9ca9b4604e4b/HCS

This August 12/13 tournament is not listed on the roadmap

[tall mural]

that’s a few tournaments

[somber swift]

According to Richie, these are posted early by Faceit - official info will come from 343 soon, they're a bit busy getting ready for Arlington.
For now, we can assume it'll be some kind of 2k or 4k style tournament that gives some free pass into pools at Ft Worth

[tall mural]

goofish ahh hcs moment

[quiet prairie]

so no qualifier of a qualifier in the end

[somber swift]

?

oh

well, there's a qualifier for the ssg qualifier. I think the 16th tournaments are still that, it's just the Faceit page named it funny

[quiet prairie]

Well the 22 is a qualifier for the SSG
But the 16 is jsut an open

[somber swift]

I know what you mean, I just think the name on faceit is wrong

[quiet prairie]

well see, I hope no. Dion't want to redo all it again XD

[somber swift]

lol, I think you'll be OK, but we'll see after Arlington for certain

[somber swift]

expect a tweet soon

[harsh sun]

are the original coatings from the hcs kits coming to the game? I can see them in the armor hall now, not sure if anyone is talking about this.

[gloomy bridge]

i think they plan to yes

[noble field]

Shopify last four scrims. 8-5 over G1, 8-7 over Faze, 10-2 over C9, and 7-7 with Optic. Looking GOOD.

[torpid beacon]

G1 is now the hive x smg roster

[noble field]

Hive is now G1.

[torpid beacon]

Yes they are

[noble field]

Not sure why you incorrectly corrected me and then agreed with me, but ok.

[torpid beacon]

LOL

[tall mural]

shreds

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/FallingEsports/status/1672279114449862656

Falling Esports (@FallingEsports)

🚨 Announcing our new Falling Esports @HCS Arlington Major Roster 🚨

Welcome:
👤 @CarlosAyalaJr
👤 @AceTv
👤 @AveDTB
👤 @Toni2Turnt_
🗣️ @V7NOM

Welcome to these GOATS and best of luck in the Arlington 🏆

Twitter · Jun 23, 2023, 4:23 PM

[noble field]

Falling is an accurate team name for these guys careers. Feel bad for Toni. He deserves a better team.

[somber swift]

Oof

[noble field]

They will lose to a team (possibly twice) that doesn’t even make it out of Open. Calling it now.

[somber swift]

It'll be fun to watch either way

[noble field]

100%. I’m looking forward to next weekend, including Thursday Open scrims on LVT, more than I have any event since Worlds.

[somber swift]

Thursday scrims on LVT??

G1 posted their official update, I'll just link their profile because the actual tweet video has some cursing
https://twitter.com/G1Official

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/CintaNegraGC/status/1672303316410445824?t=KVvhsMD2EKcaAAJlbt3LTg&s=19

CINTANEGRA Esports (@CintaNegraGC)

We're ready for Arlington! 🇺🇸 See y'all in a few days at the Texas Throwdown Showdown 🔥

🔹 @Schlayygs
🔹 @maceskii
🔹 @ItzTheLastShot
🔹 @Lerskey_
🔹 @ElZeno_

LIVE june 29th via @LVTHalo: https://t.co/X7pHwTFRjk

#PonteLaCinta 🥋🎮

Twitter · Jun 23, 2023, 5:59 PM

Ok, I'm just now starting to understand what this actually is
https://twitter.com/NickLavid/status/1671986460268871680?t=z_oVfAayZM1b11vIC3FogQ&s=19

sQ Thug Nasty (@NickLavid)

ANNOUCEMENT:

TEXAS THROWDOWN SHOWDOWN June 29th. Live on https://t.co/RivVLCssZn from 12pm-8pm CST. @LVTHalo

Twitter · Jun 22, 2023, 9:00 PM

Not a ton of details about it yet, but basically looks like 12 teams running their own pre-tournament scrims that will be live and casted on LVT.

[tall mural]

Falling is back again 😭😭

[brave raptor]

If you're in person at these events, is there anything to do besides watch the games

[somber swift]

I've only been to Worlds - and there was a TON there.

At normal LANs, I think there's a bit less, but still some.

Like they have stations set up where you can play the game - orgs have booths you can hang out at sometimes

BUt mostly, it's about the matches.

[gloomy bridge]

is there merch to buy like pins and stuf

[somber swift]

When a partnered org won't tweet about Halo because it hurts their numbers/sponsorships:

I really hope there's a path forward for HCS to gain real momentum in the esports world again.

[quiet prairie]

Sentinels have strange contracts too

[quiet prairie]

yes there is

[somber swift]

there's LOTS

[fervent geyser]

Does anyone ever have trouble redeeming codes from giveaways from twitch streamers?

[somber swift]

try both on Waypoint and also xbox redeem code

typically it's on waypoint for grass roots nameplates

[fervent geyser]

yeah i just get "Unable to redeem this code, please try again later."

Anyone know how many characters a grassroots nameplate code is supposed to be

[somber swift]

what's the item?

[fervent geyser]

its a nameplate

[somber swift]

20 i think

[fervent geyser]

XXXXX-XXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX ?

[somber swift]

yeah

[fervent geyser]

Than my code either was used already or its just glitched out not letting it redeem

[somber swift]

typically starting with HCSGR-MCC

[fervent geyser]

yes

[somber swift]

if a code has already been used, you'll get a specific message to that

I think maybe waypoint is just having trouble?

[fervent geyser]

maybe

ive read that it has trouble sometimes

[noble field]

That’s pretty sad.

[somber swift]

It honestly explains a lot.
And probably holds true for some of the other Orgs that don't do much social promotion of HCS.

Tryin to keep their engagement numbers and averages higher to help with their own sponsorship deals.

Faze barely does

[tall mural]

Yep

[somber swift]

but then orgs who's identity is already Halo, they get lots of engagement on them, like SSG

so they don't hold back

and Optic does decently well with engagement on anything, really

[tall mural]

Yeah

Idk what Navi has been up to

Other than cs go rostermania

[topaz dew]

Looking for people to squad up for halo. Looking for a solid team to play with for a couple nights out of the week. I’m looking to enter a halo tournament.

[tame sandal]

#lfg-competitive

[gloomy bridge]

sad a f

[quiet prairie]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1672419955445485569
Enlist now ! haha

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1672408004703166464
Program of the 30th

Six Karma took the place of Luminosity gaming

[exotic venture]

oynx1622 with 160 HCS PRO POINTs looking for team for Arlington HML if yall need a last minute fill in im available and have experience playing against top 10 to top 100 players in hcs.

[somber swift]

Spicy results

[tall mural]

quadrant go brr

[somber swift]

And Shopify!

[noble field]

I pointed that out yesterday. 😂

Also, Status Quo is low key is doing well in scrimmages against the Top6-12 teams.

[noble field]

Interesting Open Bracket team. Won’t make it out but interesting. Hunter_jjx, Str8Sick, Perzecute, Gunplexion.

[somber swift]

will be fun to see how far they go.
Kind of a mishmash

https://twitter.com/VaktorTV/status/1672548570786934785
I hope they get some representation

Vaktor (@VaktorTV)

If any organisation is seeing this, get this roster :

• @GloryGGz
• @Phluxr
• @Mose_Luciano
• @Syaiir_

🏆 EU Top3 - World Top13/16

Qualified for @OpTic @HCS $250,000 Arlington Major

They’re really nice guys, you’ll appreciate work with.

Twitter · Jun 24, 2023, 10:13 AM

for reference
https://twitter.com/hcs/status/1672408004703166464?s=46&t=6MP8i9e_uBipSeJ91p3kUw

Halo Esports (@HCS)

1 WEEK until we kick off the #HCSArlington23 Major - Hosted by @OpTic!

Which Pool Play match up are you most hyped for? 🤔

Likes

316

Twitter · Jun 24, 2023, 12:55 AM

https://twitter.com/NoobComboCom/status/1672688542286495747

NoobCombo.com (@NoobComboCom)

North America scrim results from June 23rd via @HaloDataHive.

If you head on over to https://t.co/Nw0W7qsYFQ, you can view players' stats and more. Go on, do it.

Twitter · Jun 24, 2023, 7:30 PM

Sentinels smacking around Quadrant is interesting

[somber swift]

I wonder how big the bracket will be

Given that they now allow for inter-region teams to compete in the Open, I would hope they can get at least 96
https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1672765952046546944

Halo Esports (@HCS)

There’s still time to grab your Team Pass for the #HCSArlington23 Major.

Sales will end Monday at 3p PT / 6p ET!

👉 https://t.co/WXmEk9f01r

Twitter · Jun 25, 2023, 12:37 AM

[noble field]

If they are still pushing for team passes, I’m guessing it isn’t going to be too close to 96. Probably 50-70.

[noble field]

It’s nice to think Vaktor is out there somewhere losing his mind that Quadrant is losing scrims to NA teams. Last two scrims they lost to Sentinels 12-5 and lost to Shopify 9-6. That includes two loses on Strongholds, despite being the “best in the world” at that gametype. 😂

[candid badger]

This is when someone would say, don't put so much into scrims

But lowkey, they aren't in na so they have EU vs NA servers

[noble field]

I was wondering about that. Seemed a little early to be in Texas getting ready for the event. I also know scrims are just scrims. Just was funny as Vaktor was going off last time about how great they were doing in scrims.

[torpid beacon]

Why do you hate EU

[noble field]

I don’t. Actually really rooting for Quadrant. Just don’t like Vaktor. 😂

[somber swift]

I think they are in NA now

[candid badger]

Sauce?

[noble field]

https://twitter.com/norwenslg/status/1671244150115647493?s=46&t=k0OtERRoEKly6AAEvMUQqg

@somber swift is right.

[tall mural]

Didn’t str8 retire idek anymore 😭

[noble field]

Haha he did. Basically he was over the online stuff. Lack of foresight when the online events were getting close to over. Announced right after Dallas and Posey saying he was an FA that he and Posey was a To2.

[tall mural]

Yeah

[candid badger]

Put everything into scrims

[noble field]

I’ve been preaching NOT to weigh scrims too heavily forever. Only reason I brought it up was a month ago Vaktor was yelling “who is next for the EU fury?” And stuff like that after several scrims. HE was the one putting a ton of weight into it. Just funny to me now.

Once again I am rooting for Quadrant. I want someone, anyone, to break into the Top3 and disrupt the predicable outcome we get every time. I hard root for Shopify as a Ryan fan, but I think Quadrant making Top3 or even winning it would be amazing. Huge for the scene and region. They all seem like good guys too which I can’t say the same about to several of players on the Top12 NA teams.

[somber swift]

I'm excited for Friday

[quiet prairie]

same here 🙂

[quiet prairie]

https://twitter.com/OpTic/status/1673364423258390531
They have to stop putting the Infinity XD
Each time I'm crying for this event

[candid badger]

Wtf is up with apg, future so bright?

[candid badger]

This scene is nothing without sparty

[noble field]

I wouldn’t say nothing. I would argue that Optic is the biggest force and largest fan draw. With that said I think Sparty is a big piece. Very controversial and people either love him or hate him.

[candid badger]

Without cratos halo wouldn't exist

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/LVTHalo/status/1673380715667374080

LVT Halo (@LVTHalo)

12 of the BEST teams from the #hcsarlington23 Open Bracket will throw down in a LAN preview!

• Texas Throwdown Showdown
• Thursday, June 29, 2023
• 12pm CT - 8pm CT
• https://t.co/DAtHCXboGj

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 26, 2023, 5:20 PM

I really want to know what the open bracket looks like

[somber swift]

in rotation after arlington:
https://twitter.com/Tashi343i/status/1673423616762068994

Tashi (@Tashi343i)

We are so excited to bring back one of Halo 5's fan favorites!

Expect this in Ranked Arena (Slayer, Strongholds, KOTH) tomorrow as well as Ranked Slayer.

Solitude will also go into the Official HCS rotation immediately following the Arlington Major this weekend.

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 26, 2023, 8:10 PM

[twilit estuary]

Awesome!

Psyched for another map

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/RobTheTurtle_/status/1671353255882899457
https://twitter.com/lts_Name/status/1673146789170405376

They dropped him?

Rob (@RobTheTurtle_)

Myself @PiLEZHCS @lts_Name and @ShockSZN are The Shell at HCS Arlington. 🐢 strong.

Twitter · Jun 21, 2023, 3:04 AM

Chris (@lts_Name)

F/A for Arlington if I can’t guarantee something in the next 48 I’m cancelling flight and I’ll see y’all on the next one 🤌🏼

Twitter · Jun 26, 2023, 1:50 AM

[noble field]

He said later in that thread it was over not wanting to watch film in between scrims. Sounds like he is downplaying a bigger issue. Either way this team is going to struggle regardless.

[still socket]

Same here plus the new twitch drop

Do we know the co streamers or not yet

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1673502409438666752?t=WDUjgfRBZ52-If2JHf-ZZw&s=19

Halo Esports (@HCS)

When I WORT, you WORT, we WORT. 👽

Tune into the #HCSArlington23 Major (Hosted by @OpTic) and you will unlock the Covenant Frontline armor coatings!

📅 June 30 - July 2
📺 https://t.co/e5eElehCyu

Likes

286

Twitter · Jun 27, 2023, 1:24 AM

[still socket]

Wort

[cinder wyvern]

My week just got so much better after reading this

[still socket]

Same here

[open zealot]

Wort wort, it looks pretty neat

[gloomy bridge]

ngl thats a dope af skin

[still socket]

Wort wort wort

[exotic venture]

lfs

[quiet prairie]

https://twitter.com/MrTeaNCrumpets
He is one of them

[brave raptor]

Are you just given the twitch drop codes when you go to the event in person

[quiet prairie]

yes

[still socket]

Is that same for pro players or they are giving the drops automatically

[velvet bough]

Apg is trash

[quiet prairie]

it should be yes

[noble field]

100% disagreed and his teammates do too. He sets up his teammates so well.

[candid badger]

Look at optic poster for arlington and you will know the context

[velvet bough]

He by far the weakest link.

Seems like he’s not really on par with the rest of the optic team.

[twilit estuary]

It's like Pistola all over again 😢 Honestly, though, apg might not be able to keep up with the rest of optic in terms of crazy plays and kills but I do think he is a very valuable support player. Luciid, Trippy and Formal are all monsters but every team still needs a good support player and I think right now that's apg

and when Pistola got dropped off the starting lineup i think it was the same story. He wasn't a monster but he had super high survivability (that man got outta so many situations where he should have died) and was a good support player. But i think at that point, apg was also filling the support role and they needed Formal to come in as another heavy slayer

[somber swift]

Good luck in your 1v1 against him.

[candid badger]

Not every team needs a good support player. Look at faze.

Faze is living proof that if you can out slay you can out play

[twilit estuary]

Eh, yeah I guess needs is not the right wording. It doesn't hurt to have a good support player, though.

But I agree that if optic is going to replace anyone in their starting lineup it'll be apg, when that time comes

[somber swift]

you might be surprised - Someone like FormaL could simply decide to retire from Halo.
The other 3 are Halo players through and through.

A few more tickets came available, apparently

[open orbit]

wheres the new map???

[somber swift]

probably in 1 hour

I wonder what compelled the person at 343 to include "access to the event that you paid to attend" as one of the features of buying a ticket.

[noble field]

Snakebite is that guy for sure. The best at it.

[noble field]

Two bullet points wouldn’t have been enough.

[candid badger]

Bruh you think snakebite is the best support player? Are you talking objective? Or gets most assist? What do you mean by support? If you think he is the best at obj go watch ssg and get back with me

[somber swift]

he probably means best on Faze

[candid badger]

Best around? That's tough to say tbh. With frosty on team especially, even renegade. Royal 2 isn't the best, man hates obj

[rich moss]

I’m damn excited to watch the major this weekend!

[velvet bough]

Easy.

[somber swift]

cool to see more open teams making their own announcements:
https://twitter.com/UNDRPLAYED/status/1673542383349243905

▽ UNDR (@UNDRPLAYED)

We’d like to introduce our @HCS Roster for the @OpTic Major

🌸@yyShaNovA
🌸@vFinessed
🌸@xJerren
🌸@Plazement

Welcome to #UNDR

Twitter · Jun 27, 2023, 4:02 AM

[somber swift]

oh, and I just realized I shouldn't have said 'at least' 96, because the cap was 96 teams

[candid badger]

Send vod of 1v1

[noble field]

Same. Going to be an awesome weekend. Feeling some upsets for sure.

[velvet bough]

Bet

[rich moss]

Hell yeah! I’m hoping chaos reigns but FaZe still pull it out 😂😂

[noble field]

Low key rooting for Faze to be the top team that gets upset, but honestly I just want any of them to be upset and fall to 4th or even 5th/6th. Would be a nice jolt to the tournaments.

[rich moss]

Yeah, as much as I’m rooting for FaZe.. I am all for a new top team.. Maybe G1, Complexity, or Native White makes a Cinderella run here

[somber swift]

where did Optic finish last tournament?
4th or 3rd?

[tall mural]

3rd at dallas

4th was native red- with boam 🤯

[somber swift]

ah

[quiet prairie]

https://twitter.com/ZeratoR/status/1673814038629711872
Its done : 128 000 € of Cashprize for three events on Trackmania ^^
French esport force.
Now for HCS ? ^^

And the power of crowdfunding is really strong too. Especially when there is transperency on how much goes where ^^

[somber swift]

good stuff!

[noble field]

Is there an easy way for me to donate or just subscribing?

[tall mural]

HCS has just fallen off, there’s no denying it, so crowdfunding is likely low and hcs doesn’t use it anyway

[somber swift]

well, they did use it last year

[noble field]

Like Ashaman said they have before. I’m just asking for grassroots stuff. I love supporting it. Can’t really watch due to time zone and language difference, but I’d love to donate somehow.

[unkempt hollow]

I’m thinking Faze for this weekend 🤔

[somber swift]

This'll be cool - a 1v1 during the event
https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1673843682339065856

Halo Esports (@HCS)

Live from the #HCSArlington23 Major, don't miss the return of the #HCSAllStar Showdown!

1v1 Showdown featuring NEW Arena Map - Solitude!

⭐️ @Renegade_JW
⭐️ @Bound2K
⭐️ @Lucid_TW
⭐️ @lqgend_

📅 July 2
🕛 11:45a CT
📺 https://t.co/e5eElehCyu

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 12:00 AM

[candid badger]

Bruh 1v1 bound solitude

[noble field]

Two hot takes. SSG finally takes it. Shopify gets Top3.

[old ermine]

Yo

Goodymorning

sleeping community

[old ermine]

Hi big panda

[gloomy bridge]

Yooo that’s gona be so hypee

[quiet prairie]

Its over now. It was just subscribing.

[torpid beacon]

Renegade will take it since he's the best H5 player

[candid badger]

Frosty

[small ibex]

Looking to forge a squad to represent northeast Ohio with the goal to play in HCS

[torpid beacon]

I mean Renegade is the best at H5 out of those 4

[candid badger]

I'm just trolling lol

But renegod got it

[torpid beacon]

Ask the LFF competitive chat. In the halo discord below 👇

[small ibex]

Thanks. Done

[grim forum]

Is Kuhlect out of Arlington?

[somber swift]

?

[grim forum]

Look at his tweets

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/Kuhlect_/status/1674075247971008517

?

Kuhlect (@Kuhlect_)

https://t.co/e3guFt5zzU

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 3:20 PM

https://twitter.com/BarcodeAK/status/1674079501356273665

Aleks Barcode (@BarcodeAK)

ha HAAAAAAAA

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 3:37 PM

I think something happened to their team?

[somber swift]

although this might be more something like he's hungover, I think it's his birthday

[quiet prairie]

Its barcode birthday too ^^

[somber swift]

that's what I meant

i was replying to barcode's tweet

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/Mikwen/status/1674090201302327296

Austin Mikwen (@Mikwen)

cool stuff

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 4:19 PM

[cold kayak]

[old ermine]

[somber swift]

I think maybe Barcode was not in the USA and perhaps now is unable to get here?

[cold kayak]

Oof

Passport issues sucks

[somber swift]

He's been scrimming though - like how?

From ANZ with that PING?
Sounds unlikely

but of course possible

[noble field]

N8V White has been doing very poorly in scrims. I imagine that has something to do with it.

[somber swift]

i was looking at clips of his last stream and his ping was only like 30

[cold kayak]

Maybe vpn’ing which isn’t allowed

Right?

[somber swift]

I'm hearing he was actually in Canada during this off-time

perhaps he couldn't stay in US for the whole time on 1 visa, but was able to get entry to Canada - but now not able to get back into the US

[grim forum]

Who's the replacement then

[astral linden]

what happened to kuhlect

recent tweet got everyone worrying in the comments

[somber swift]

Nothing, We think something happened to barcode (stuck in Canada)

[somber swift]

would need to be their coach, I guess

#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams testing

[astral linden]

oh

[old ermine]

Hi

How it's going on

[somber swift]

do you like competitive halo?

[old ermine]

Yes why not

[somber swift]

Have you watched it before?

There's a tournament happening this weekend

[old ermine]

Ok have you joined in a tournament?

Before

[somber swift]

I actually played in the first online tournament for Infinite back in 2021

[tall mural]

Native White 😭😭

Historical battles of history: Canada vs HCS players

[candid badger]

Except royal 2 right?

[somber swift]

so far so good

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/DerangedNative/status/1674121078644551680

DerangedNative (@DerangedNative)

😪

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 6:22 PM

[velvet bough]

Any1 here going to Arlington HCS?

[somber swift]

Unfortunately not me

LoL

[jagged turtle]

I’ll be there

[gloomy bridge]

wait fr?? howd u do

[somber swift]

lost both rounds

[somber swift]

https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/a9f6f39e-1198-4760-8956-bd9399cb4d7e/NA HCS Open Series 11-20/results

it was fun, but we got bodied heavily

[jagged turtle]

Oh man I remember doing one of the Troli 2v2s

We got destroyed first match

[atomic tangle]

https://twitter.com/ggdarkesthour/status/1674130551970885635?s=46&t=Ujk2E5tSwUzhlGTuuHt1SA

$1,500 tournament. July 29th

[jagged turtle]

That would be fun lol

If they have some kind of place at the Arlington Major where anyone can sit down and just play some Halo that would be sick

I’d love to find some teammates to run ranked with, eventually forming/joining a team would be nice but I’m nowhere near skilled enough to compete

[tall mural]

Ain’t no way there were 400+ open teams

[somber swift]

yeah man, 2021 Infinite was NUTS

[jagged turtle]

When they were REALLY trying to figure stuff out

[somber swift]

@tall mural wanna see something really wild?

500 NA teams

over 100 EU teams
Vaktor must've been in heaven

[jagged turtle]

That’s quite a lot of teams

[somber swift]

511/512 teams the one previous
That's basically max

[tall mural]

😭😭😭😭😭

The good old days

[somber swift]

Week 2 of Year 1:

128 EU teams

over 100 MX

and 50 ANZ

and max NA at 512

[tall mural]

aaa

[still socket]

I’m guessing that they’ll show the co streamers tomorrow

[velvet bough]

Same.

[somber swift]

one guy spilled already:
https://twitter.com/MatafiedGaming/status/1673755727490613248

Matafied Gaming ✊🏽🇲🇽🇺🇸 (@MatafiedGaming)

MG will have Twitch Drops this weekend, there’s a new Shop Update, and more in today’s BILINGUAL video! (English/Español)

Please watch the video and give me some feedback on this format, it’ll be much appreciated! 😊

🔗 https://t.co/I5hrQOD0Qd

Twitter · Jun 27, 2023, 6:10 PM

[still socket]

Damn lol

[somber swift]

Has the broadcasting talent been announced?

doesn't look like it

probably scrambling to sort out the N8VW situation first

[noble field]

They can do both simultaneously. 😉

[somber swift]

should be able to

[noble field]

Lol valid point.

[somber swift]

?

[somber swift]

another potential co-streamer
https://twitter.com/lyraastarr/status/1674232038726189056

Lyra (@lyraastarr)

Two days away now — I will be providing Open Bracket coverage from #HCS Arlington hosted by OpTic Gaming! Shoutout to @DIV360 for all the support and setup, much appreciated. Excited to be able to showcase some of the insane talent coming into HCS 💚😮‍💨 See y’all Friday

Twitter · Jun 29, 2023, 1:43 AM

[tall mural]

https://twitter.com/noobcombocom/status/1674215626837991425?s=46&t=X6sJAfpJXPXdZ7p1B1-j6Q wait g1 beat optic in a scrim what the actual heck

[gloomy bridge]

wuts g1's roster now again, ik it chngd

[tall mural]

Hive

So Precisin, Swish, Huss, and I think neuronical

[gloomy bridge]

damn

[tall mural]

My autocorrect hates halo

[gloomy bridge]

optic fallin off fr

[tall mural]

Exactly

They used to be considered onliners 😭😭

[gloomy bridge]

hahah

idk wut they need to do diff

[tall mural]

Maybe chem is chalked

Coaching is as good as it could be with lb

[noble field]

I think it’s partly Optic had better communication than everyone out the gate and had great talent. I believe that other players/teams are catching up in talent and communication. The top players are consolidating, they are getting better, and the teamwork is getting better. Everyone is catching up to the top3, which all seem more or less complacent if you zoom out and look at post Worlds to now overall. With that said Optic is still a very good team and had a lot of good scrim results the past three weeks. Will be interesting this weekend for sure.

[digital basin]

is hcs tomorrow or tonight?

[noble field]

Friday. Thursday does have Open bracket scrims on LVT though if you’re interested.

[digital basin]

so its tomorrow?

[noble field]

Friday in Texas. Everyone has different time zones.

[candid badger]

Calling swish an onliner some real disrespect

[candid badger]

Optic had best teamwork and pushes and rarely lost 1v1s due to them playing as a team and forcing 2v1s

[tall mural]

I mean optic used to be onliners

[candid badger]

I would have never thought that because of h5. I don't remember anyone on optic now or with pistola considered onliners

[noble field]

I feel like we said the same thing. I agree with you.

[candid badger]

Basically but communication was good on every team I just expanded

[noble field]

Fair. I still think theirs was better.

[candid badger]

What do you mean by communication?

[noble field]

You mentioned it already. Why I said we said the same thing. I think they had better pushes and better bait and switches. They set up better. They rarely do objective until a set up (to the point it might be a flaw.) This is all around their communication and chemistry. Lucid makes decisions and communicates and everyone executes. Better and this than everyone.

[somber swift]

https://www.twitch.tv/lvthalo
pre-tournament LAN scrims live now

[candid badger]

I think its all lunchbox, they def play a little like lunchbox. Luncbox's ideology was good teammates win 1v1s great teammates avoid them.
Lucid is consistent. Yeah he probably igls but if you were listening to the listen ins you would hear lunchbox calling things, like "hold back trippy has sniper, let him get a pick first."

I wouldn't say it's really communication, mostly playing better as a team, i.e they play closer together instead of being very spread apart.

Last slayer faze vs ssg on live fire, faze ran in a 4 stack.

Communication is part of it, but if we played together and you called out 3 enemies A plat and I'm on C plat communication does nothing except for give info.

A good coach can make a hell of a difference.

[noble field]

I’ll have to pay more attention on the listen ins. I usually hear Lucid’s voice more but it’s also the only one I would recognize really. I do agree a good coach does make a big difference.

[noble field]

Agreed! Guy continues to be underrated for no reason.

[plain cave]

Anyone got a time the doors open tomorrow at the esports arena?

[somber swift]

I think 10:30 local time

[plain cave]

Thank you sir

I believe I followed you on twitter @somber swift

[somber swift]

Sweet.
I try to stay active on Halo things

[plain cave]

You gonna be at Arlington?

[somber swift]

Sadly no.
I'm incredibly broke

[somber swift]

Official
https://twitter.com/ShopifyRebels/status/1674492558368469001?t=A2fNA1TMxCpNTXPnxNqRyQ&s=19

Shopify Rebellion (@ShopifyRebels)

We’re pleased to announce the newest member of our Halo squad - Welcome to the team @Cykul_!

Don’t miss his debut with us this weekend at the #HCSArlington23 major!

Twitter · Jun 29, 2023, 6:58 PM

[somber swift]

excuse me?
What's this all about, and why is he posting this now?
Is he trolling?
https://twitter.com/Kuhlect_/status/1674523349760745474

Kuhlect (@Kuhlect_)

They could not live with their own failure. Where did that bring them? Back to me. Joined @Sentinels

Twitter · Jun 29, 2023, 9:00 PM

[winged cradle]

#hcs-news returns 🙂

[arctic quiver]

@somber swift Appreciate the suggestion on Tweetshift, very cool service

[somber swift]

Oh nice, I'm glad it works for you!

[winged cradle]

still adjusting and playing with settings

[arctic quiver]

Honestly wasn't sure anything like this would exist after the API changes

[somber swift]

Hopefully it works quickly enough and reduces workload

OK, I think he's trolling
https://twitter.com/Kuhlect_/status/1674520008364359682

Kuhlect (@Kuhlect_)

run it back

Twitter · Jun 29, 2023, 8:47 PM

Oh this is nice:

lots of HCS news coming out today - probably gonna get the Co-streamer announcement shortly.

Unfortunate the cost and timing doesn't work out to have all of Pool Play Broadcast

Ah, they updated some wording:

"Pool Play Resumes" now on Sat 🙂

[quiet prairie]

they really didn't learned....

[somber swift]

they learned and heard - but obviously they don't have the budget to increase staffing levels and pay the casters/broadcast team for an extra 3 hours on Saturday.
It's unfortunate, but pretty sure 343/MS sets out the full year HCS budget in advance, and they can't make many adjustments that basically increase costs.

They only were able to change the Worlds format last year because they cut something else.
What could they cut in this to then spend that time/money on the broadcast earlier?
Nothing, really - they just need more budget, which isn't happening.

[quiet prairie]

Let's go the live on smartphone 🙂

[somber swift]

The only thing I'm holding out hope for is that they give the LVT crew and perhaps others better access/permission to broadcast Friday Open and also the early Saturday pool play.

[quiet prairie]

-> "they learned and heard " : where ? do they show us the pool play ? no... clearly not learned. Did they even apologied or explained ? no they did not....
Again broadcast without caster is still the minimal

[quiet prairie]

never the open, they need fluidity for the games

[somber swift]

NEWS:

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/hcs-split-2-qualification-and-seeding-updates

[somber swift]

they DID learn, and hear - HCS did.
But I'm tellin ya their hands are tied by the budget they are given.

For the next event however, the HCS Global Invitational hosted by Spacestation Gaming, the format will remain the same but the seeding will be slightly altered.

[tall mural]

This is weird

I don’t like it

[noble field]

Tylunel and someone else is casting Open Bracket on their streams. Hopefully they also get Saturday morning or LVT does.

[somber swift]

there's lots changed:
https://twitter.com/AshamanND/status/1674538725794258945

AshamanND (@AshamanND)

@HCS Post-Arlington Format Changes:
https://t.co/965h1mgETj
-Coverage to get to SSG remains same
-Ft Worth will have online Qualifiers for Open
-Ft Worth Pools will have SSG top 6, 2 NA on points, 2 EU on points, 1 ANZ and 1 MX on points (the last 4 come from Open Bracket)
1/2

Twitter · Jun 29, 2023, 10:01 PM

[tall mural]

I read it lmao

No Worlds play in bracket trips me up

[noble field]

Are they just doing Top whatever teams from Ft Worth go to Worlds like they did last year with Orlando?

[somber swift]

same as last year though

[somber swift]

https://twitter.com/AshamanND/status/1674539903651291137

AshamanND (@AshamanND)

@HCS -Ft Worth Open travel: 2 NA, 2 EU, 2 ANZ, 1 MX (From Online QualTBA)
-HWC (16) top 8 FT Worth
-HWC top 4 NA points, top 2 EU points, MX and ANZ have regional playoff AT WT WORTH

-SSG and Ft Worth 4th place Pools teams are not eliminated
-HWC 4th place pool teams eliminated
2/2

Twitter · Jun 29, 2023, 10:06 PM

top 8 from ft worth auto in.
Then it's on Points - and ANZ/MX actually have a play-in tournament AT FR WORTH!

[noble field]

Ok that is MUCH better. I hated that Orlando system and Quadrant got screwed. Meant points were worthless in the end. This is better.

[somber swift]

Basically, the top 2 MX and top 2 ANZ teams will do a best of 7 series head to head in FT Worth (assuming no ANZ and MX team make it to top 8 at FT Worth)

Imagine an MX team or ANZ team place top 8 in Arlington - and then TWO teams from their region get to go to worlds.

Re: LVT trying to cover more on Saturday
https://twitter.com/LVTHalo/status/1674537019270221824?t=eJ8bYqHl13hIx4nsilRAWQ&s=19

LVT Halo (@LVTHalo)

@AshamanND @tisaacs321 @HCS @Halo @OpTic Working on it, we'll see if it comes to fruition

Twitter · Jun 29, 2023, 9:55 PM

[tall mural]

Just do an un casted broadcast at least 😭

[somber swift]

There's still a lot of people involved in a broadcast team that aren't the casters

[tall mural]

True

But like… press a few buttons

[somber swift]

Lots of people that need to be on hand to run it though