general-chat

[misty hearth]

[amber mirage]

They're both pretty common

[kindred ledge]

i can't recall properly the Halo 4 campaign and i've completely avoided halo 5 so far, but from what i remember from infinite (recent memory too) the heatwave was far from common in missions

[candid solar]

Maybe true for 4's scattershot-it's really just 'situationally mediocre shotgun'.

5's scattershot actually acted a lot more like the Heatwave variant in Infinite.

[amber mirage]

It's not everywhere, but it's not like it's rare

[true kayak]

You NEED to play H5

[obsidian wyvern]

you can use it for legendary?

[hasty zinc]

yep

[tight remnant]

I really wouldnt call 1-reach's sandbox stellar. 5 takes the cake for sure

[candid solar]

Like half the guns in those sandboxes were so situational that even in situations they were supposed to be good at, they still sucked.

[kindred ledge]

i'm really tempted to as contrary to popular opinion i actually loved the halo 5 design/graphics tbh

[true kayak]

You're talking about Forerunner technology and those were the best in that game

[kindred ledge]

what's dissuading me is the fact that i'd have to then free up another 50+gb of space on my PC just to play a game that from a story and gameplay perspective (from what i've seen so far) is incredibly lackluster

[tight remnant]

Halo 5 campaign isn't on PC..

[amber mirage]

Gameplay is about on par with the rest of the series for me

[obsidian wyvern]

what was the second mf doing to fall off as well
https://vxtwitter.com/MonkeysxMoo35/status/1770260519795954009

[true kayak]

I'm obsessed with Halo 5

Like please, someone send help!

[hasty zinc]

pins, you are up

[kindred ledge]

oh jk there you go, that's the main reason for not playing halo 5 then LOL

[tight remnant]

Fun fun fun

[kindred ledge]

343 series you mean?

[true kayak]

No bro. Halo

Not what I was replying to

[amber mirage]

I don't think any of the campaigns, 343 or Bungie, differ that greatly in gameplay quality.

[kindred ledge]

i was gonna say LOL

[true kayak]

Halo series

[kindred ledge]

hm idk honestly i'm sure there might be some bias to my opinion but the original trilogy and reach (to me at least) seems LEAGUES ahead of the 343 series

[true kayak]

Wah I just want to continue what mess after 5 happened. You just don't understand yet. Play the game ;_;

[kindred ledge]

all halo games have needed precision weapons to progress through higher difficulty, but halo 4 and infinite make it UNBEARABLY annoying because of the horrible ammo situation

[true kayak]

It's Shenmue II all over again

[candid solar]

"Might be some bias"

YOU DON'T SAY

[hasty zinc]

you won't get par or score achievments but you do get level completion achievements

and sime I'm not going for score or par, I dont' really care

[hasty zinc]

mendicant bias

[kindred ledge]

i mean i'd love to hear your argument for why the 343 series deserves much more credit than i've given it in terms of gameplay

[hasty zinc]

Halo 4. End of argument

[candid solar]

My argument is that I've actually played the damn games instead of fencesitting or watching youtubers.

[tight remnant]

Halo infinite has a good numer of ammo crates..

[amber mirage]

4 did have the stuff with guns despawning really quickly, but if I recall correctly, that was patched in MCC. Infinite, I fail to see any kind of ammo problem. You have so many ways to replace weapons or ammo in Infinite.

[kindred ledge]

? barring 5, i HAVE played the games

[tight remnant]

I'll agree we don't have enough shock and hard light and power crates but plenty of kinetic ones

[candid solar]

Oh, so you haven't played em all, and you're formulating your opinion on things you haven't played because of air and mystical fairies.

[tight remnant]

And the banished also do carry UNSC weapons too

[kindred ledge]

there definitely is a decent number of ammo crates (especially plasma and kinetic) throughout the campaign missions, but i found the spacing of them a little awkward. by the time i get to the next one, i've already long had to abandon said weapon due to running out of ammo

[candid solar]

I'm a different person than you, who appreciates a more parallel and competitive sandbox and movement options. You don't like 343i games, fine, but your opinion's an opinion, not a fact, and it's an inarguably incomplete analysis on your part.

[rare cedar]

I’ve never seen anyone “NOPE” this hard in Halo until today

[hasty zinc]

LOL

that made me guffaw

[kindred ledge]

yeah, but i just am not a huge fan of being forced to change weapons rather than just being able to get ammo for it (or having a bigger capacity to tide me over til the next ammo crates)

[candid solar]

What's funny is, I hated this map in Reach, but I like it in Infinite.

[hasty zinc]

the immediate drop and turn made me lose it

[true kayak]

They wanted to keep their ammo

[rare cedar]

Dude right!

[kindred ledge]

i'm not sure what's going on with you buddy but i never tried to say my opinion is fact lol

[hasty zinc]

omg I didn't see the part where he took the lift away

holy crap this is my favorite infinite clip of all time

[obsidian wyvern]

we had to gun him down

[true kayak]

I like the Chibi version they made for Husky Raid

[kindred ledge]

i'd also argue that playing through 67% of a series (especially given they're all rather similar) isn't a horribly inaccurate way of drawing some preliminary analyses

[pliant hatch]

reminds me of those people who try to go for zero deaths.

[rare cedar]

Like he IMMEDIATELY dropped and turned towards the lift

[amber mirage]

I still don't really see the problem. The ammo situation in Infinite isn't all that different from the previous games where you'll find tons of ammo for the basic weapons, and less for power weapons.

[thin prairie]

trying to do halo ce par time on legendary, currently been stuck on truth and reconciliation for 3 days

[tight remnant]

That's a good chunk missing

[thin prairie]

[candid solar]

That complaint was mostly leaning towards 4, I wager.

[tight remnant]

and the halos play different from each other mostly

[candid solar]

Though I feel like that's a Doom Eternal style skill issue, IMO.

[obsidian wyvern]

doom eternal had no ammo man

[candid solar]

I know, I loved that about it.

[nova tusk]

saw

[kindred ledge]

it was mostly towards 4, infinite had a much better ammo management system with the crates (though i'd argue still not up to par with the bungie series, namely imo due to the lower capacity)

[obsidian wyvern]

i was actually struggling to keep my weapons loaded. didnt help that you couldnt just punch the basic enemies and kill them, you had to shoot them for them to die

[obsidian wyvern]

i mean yeah but that was also limited

[candid solar]

Trenchbird when ammo is scarce in video game

[kindred ledge]

perhaps it was a skill issue. i hadn't played any halo game on legendary difficulty since reach

[tight remnant]

Missing less can help, but you're still meant to pick up other weapons too.

[kindred ledge]

ironically enough i don't think i had a huge issue with missing really. mostly my issue was certain enemies that were just ammo sponges (biggest offenders, albeit not often offenders being the boss fights) as well as just the capacity and spacing of crates being JUST awkward

[candid solar]

You can run out of ammo pretty damn fast in other Halo games, at least when they aren't funnelling unlimited numbers of specific guns.

[tight remnant]

Boss fight rooms tend to have crates though

[candid solar]

Hell, 4 actually has a lot of ammo laying around, just has the same thing other Halos have-you aren't supposed to spam BRs the entire level, but lightrifles and suppressors grow on trees.

[hasty zinc]

so after the clip this is a reply to, I finally just unpaused the game and was met with this

[tight remnant]

And some stronger enemies need... To take out shields first so an appropriate weapon is good for that

[true kayak]

Also, if we aren't talking about legendary. I don't think ammo matters. I would assume other modes would have more ammo supply

[kindred ledge]

i am talking about legendary though

[amber mirage]

Was Rev driving?

[candid solar]

Why are you demeriting the unfair hard mode for being unfair and hard?

[kindred ledge]

i've not played the games on lower difficulties, so i'd be woefully ignorant on commenting about ammo management on normal

[candid solar]

It being unfair and hard is literally the point

[kindred ledge]

i'm not demeriting it for being unfair and hard. i'm demeriting it for being a chore. the earlier halo series were just as unfair and hard (arguably moreso, especially looking at halo 2's jackal snipers) but at least i never had any issues with ammo

[tight remnant]

I don't think i'd necesairly call it unfair, halo 2 sure

[candid solar]

... So you're demeriting it for being a chore, because it's unfair and hard, and has a difficulty you can't intuit a path around (Use weapons you don't use a lot more intelligently)?

[kindred ledge]

i mean in a sense it is "unfair" right? you have enemies with much stronger shields, better aim, you turn into a glass cannon on higher difficulties. but that IS the point of higher difficulties, and is not my gripe

[candid solar]

That's... Well, it's certainly a take.

[true kayak]

Actually thinking back H5 has something in common with those H2 Jackals lmao

[kindred ledge]

how are you getting the "because it's unfair and hard" part? did you just not read anything i wrote?

[true kayak]

On legendary of course

[obsidian wyvern]

I did run panda over today

[kindred ledge]

you're also forced into weapons.

[candid solar]

Read every word. Just sounds like you don't acknowledge a factor of difficulty because it inconveniences you, which is literally the point of said difficulty factor.

[rare cedar]

@wild island post that in #1076327824924872755 plz

[kindred ledge]

that part is not inherent to 343 games. in earlier halo games you also NEEDED a combo of one plasma wepaon (usually pistol) and one kinetic weapon (precise weapon at that)

[candid solar]

"This is bad design because it pressures me in this mode where the game is supposed to pressure me" is how you come across.

[tight remnant]

Also there's different weapons lying around places

[kindred ledge]

your critical thinking concerns me.
i'm not demeriting it for being unfair and hard. i'm demeriting it for being a chore. the earlier halo series were just as unfair and hard (arguably moreso, especially looking at halo 2's jackal snipers) but at least i never had any issues with ammo
try reading the above ONE more time to spot where my issue is, rather than somehow deaning my concern is Legendary is "unfair and hard"

[candid solar]

Your critical thinking concerns me, lmao.

[rare cedar]

Ima need you two to drop whatever is going on and take it to the dms please

Or block each other

[candid solar]

What you view as a chore, I view as a critical part of gameplay difficulty. Forcing more economic usage of ammo is a crucial difficulty point.

[kindred ledge]

i'd wish you'd take a look at the history of this conversation. i started it off civil, and did my best to remain so.

[rare cedar]

I am aware, and it’s no longer civil

[candid solar]

In 4 you honestly couldn't walk 5 feet without tripping over another cheap headshot-capable weapon with 50~ rounds per gun pickup.

(The boltshot)

[kindred ledge]

right but perhaps rather than chiding me as if i instigated the blatant rudeness there might be a different approach, no?

[candid solar]

Seriously, I think that's actually one of the single most ammo-efficient PvE weapons in any Halo game ever, that people don't understand or appreciate enough.

[rare cedar]

I wasn’t talking to just you

[kindred ledge]

i well and truly understand that. but i'm saying, rather than letting their rudeness slide the entire time until i eventually lost a bit of civility you could have interjected earlier and maybe just asked him to be civil before i lost a bit of my composure.

[candid tusk]

I mean, would you have it any other way?

[rare cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/lock-it-down-both-of-you-callense-los-dos-mexicanmerty-halo-reach-happy-birthday-gif-27416480

Yay I found it

[candid solar]

https://tenor.com/view/bogos-binted-kestrel-bird-of-prey-birds-gif-16699067190151089954

[kindred ledge]

i'm ngl, 11 year old me cried his heart out when carter sacrificed himself

i had no issue with kids at school being pricks or general life issues. but fictional commander sacrificing his life for the mission? brutal.

[rare cedar]

Yea, some would say that was a.. noble sacrifice

[tight remnant]

He could have lived if he kept on flying for a minute more

[kindred ledge]

[kindred ledge]

this confuses me. what do you mean exactly? iirc, him crashing into the scarab is the only reason we were able to continue on

also, wasn't he already slowly bleeding out?

[tight remnant]

The pillar of autumn was very close by air, about a minute more of flying

or two

[hasty zinc]

carter could have jumped

[tight remnant]

He didn't need to drop off Six and emile

[candid tusk]

Too much blood loss, he couldn't feel his toes anymore.

[kindred ledge]

with his armor compromised i feel like there's no way he's surviving that fall right?

[candid solar]

Carter's death always pissed me off because it didn't even make sense that he was injured.

[kindred ledge]

what was their reasoning for him dropping them off again?

[candid tusk]

To have a final mission.

[tight remnant]

They should have kept the doors closed

[candid solar]

He was trying to distract the Banshees by using himself as bait.

Ultimately still resulted in Six and Emile having to sprint through a gauntlet of Scarabs and a Wraith, so maybe it wasn't the best call.

[kindred ledge]

oh right, wasn't the pelican damaged by then as well?

[tight remnant]

Considering he was able to keep flying around for several minutes later..

[candid solar]

A bit, but it doesn't make any sense, like most of Reach.

[kindred ledge]

yeah fair

[tight remnant]

Maybe he hit his head or something so he couldnt think straight

[kindred ledge]

i remember after i finished the first series of halo books thinking halo reach (the game) had an.. interesting story

[hasty zinc]

yeah the fanfic Reach book

[tight remnant]

I'm not sure how people get so easily attached to shallower characters but can't seem to appreciate those who have more depth

[kindred ledge]

was that not a commissioned book by Microsoft/Bungie at the time?

[tight remnant]

In general

[rare cedar]

Welp that didn’t work as planned

[hasty zinc]

I was poking fun at it because bungie just disregarded a few things that occurred in the book

[kindred ledge]

OH gotcha

[rare cedar]

The real reason why Carter went out in Reach

[candid solar]

Fall of Reach was Microsoft-commissioned and directed, as was standard for Xbox games at the time. In fact, Bungie signing for that book deal was only done because they needed someone to write the end script of CE for them.

They, according to Trautmann, tried to renege on the deal at the last second, too.

[rare cedar]

Sauce?

[candid tusk]

Mango Habanero.

[tight remnant]

Probably the interview with trauttman

[candid solar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbhoNpcXZ_k

[hard crane]

westchester

[candid tusk]

Worcestershire

[hard crane]

And yes, it took me too long to answer because I had to Google how to spell it.

[candid solar]

I must make like a Halo HATER and take a shower. I am no longer a true Halo fan.

[rare cedar]

All of you are wrong: Sweet Baby Rays

[hard crane]

Ah, ****

[amber mirage]

Reading Fall of Reach for the first time last year, I was skeptical how good it could be and why people loved it so much, but after finishing, I understood.

[tight remnant]

Sometimes i feel like doing a halo reading marathon

[rare cedar]

[candid tusk]

Easier to spell than it is to say. lol

[candid solar]

I still don't get it, but then, I think it's goofy as hell to call a book "Fall of REACH" and have less than a third of the book be about what the book's name explicitly refers to.

[tight remnant]

To read 2 books per day for like, is it around two weeks straight?

that'd be an involved thing

[hard crane]

Unless you're me, and you can't say nor spell it :/

[kindred ledge]

so i still am on the last of the Forerunner trilogy, and have yet to start the Kilo-Five trilogy, but i've seen people say that many of the different authors commissioned for the different Halo series were.. disappointing. anyone able to weigh in on this?

[tight remnant]

It builds up to it

[candid solar]

For a book written in like, a few months, FoR also set up a LOT of really goofy lore that kind of stunted Halo's growth as a fiction, IMO.

[obsidian wyvern]

tbf people dk how to say Worcestershire lol

[kindred ledge]

this is honestly something that had always bugged me.

[tight remnant]

I think all halo books are great

[tight remnant]

What? Like what

FoR set up so much for the basis of halo's lore

There were a few minor sensible changes here and there

[candid solar]

Just because it's a basis doesn't mean it's not stunting.

[obsidian wyvern]

I can only think of Fires of Rubicon

[tight remnant]

I do not see how

[obsidian wyvern]

oh fall of reach, bruh

[candid solar]

IMO it hard explained too much things that problably shouldn't have been hard explained literally before the first game even hit the shelves.

[candid tusk]

The only thing that wouldn't stunt a fiction's growth is saying "It was all a dream." you have to ground your world in a history and rule set.

[kindred ledge]

my only gripe with fall of reach honestly was just the fact that not enough of the fall of reach was really fleshed out, especially given the title is literally.. yk.. the fall of reach

[tight remnant]

It was very much seen through the eyes of the spartans and a bit of halsey

[ocean herald]

can you give an example of a piece of lore from FoR that stunted the growth?

[tight remnant]

A concrete example would be better

[kindred ledge]

we basically get no more than, "dumb lieutenant made bad calls and ruined ground operations. this probably true for other CO's throughout the planet. therefore the orbital MAC's got demolished and we lose space war gg go next"

[kindred ledge]

^ this would be my first example

[tight remnant]

I'm not sure how it stunts growth?

[kindred ledge]

i never said it stunted the growth at all

my only gripe, as i said, was just that for a title of fall of reach it could have done more to, yk, TALK abotu the fall of reach

[ocean herald]

trench said stunted growth, not you

[tight remnant]

I'm talking about this

[ocean herald]

yep, and i was directing that question at trench

[kindred ledge]

O my fault i thought you were also referring to my gripe of it not fleshing out the fall as much as i feel it could have

personally i thought it set up the halo universe/series phenomenally well

opened the door for "dead" spartans to be revived (some of them anyways), really put the emphasis of how dire the war had gotten (when even the spartans couldn't magically save the situation), makes it abundantly clear why/how they end up stranded on the first ring and the concerns etc. etc.

[tight remnant]

Even by halo 2 the books influenced the games

[ocean herald]

i agree, i really liked the book. i'd maybe need an example about it stunting the lore. i'd disagree that it stunted anything, given how much lore has come out after that book. if anyone has stunted Halo's growth it's been MS

[tight remnant]

I wonder something

[kindred ledge]

MS?

[ocean herald]

microsoft

[kindred ledge]

ah gotcha

[tight remnant]

if spartan ops had been better and more prominent, would people have been enamoured with fireteam crimson as much as they are with six and rookie?

[kindred ledge]

spartan ops was part of halo 4, right?

[tight remnant]

yes

[kindred ledge]

would you say spartan ops makes up a significant chunk of what halo 4 has to offer?

[tight remnant]

it's quite meaty

[kindred ledge]

if you were to provide a brief synopsis, how would you best describe what it offers?

[tight remnant]

A continuation to the story, insight on Jul's Covenant, where the story is headed and the UNSC. As well as a PVE experience that had narrative to it in short mission styles

[kindred ledge]

oh dear god okay i need to revisit halo 4 then

[tight remnant]

It has some great ideas but they weren't executed the best on a gameplay standpoint. One of the hinderances is the netcode is very laggy when it comes to PVE experiences

it is only with 5 and up that the PVE netcode becomes much better

[ocean herald]

i think spartan ops could work well with a live service model, i just wish there was a way to marry that with what 343 was trying to do with Infinite. spartan ops felt "meaty" but the seasons in Infinite fell perhaps a little flat. the iratus/din storyline went nowhere but it was something ig

[tight remnant]

Very very disappointing that they cut the story in infinite's multiplayer

[kindred ledge]

hmm i do hope they port halo 5 to PC (doubtful though)

[tight remnant]

Thing is, things were getting back on track to what the live experience should be then we started getting cuts

[kindred ledge]

i would want to play it, just don't care to buy a console that i'll never use again just for a single playthrough of a single game

[tight remnant]

Me too. And before anyone says it, an actual good port. Not the partial halo 5 forge thing

[kindred ledge]

i'm very critical of 343's halo series but i don't believe it's the fault of the average 343 worker

the executives at 343 have been ABYSMAL and Microsoft (as it tends to be, even since Bungie era) is just a MAJOR issue

[tight remnant]

I enjoyed a lot of the spartan ops locales also RIP Murphy. Why did he have to die!

Imagine if the academy story would eventually have lead to reclaiming the infinity

[kindred ledge]

i'm honestly really upset that infinite is just kind of in limbo

given 343 claimed Infinite would be the platform of Halo for the next decade - and here we are, 3 years after the ACTUAL release (5 years after the scheduled release iirc) - with a cliff hanger ending and more questions than answers (or maybe that's just a me issue?) is very upsetting

[steady jolt]

Managed to pick up a Ring indoor camera at the weekend for half price, going to wall mount it so I can spy on my cats while I'm at work 😄 Still need to mount the doorbell outside, waiting for better weather

[kindred ledge]

best use of a ring camera i can think of

[livid oyster]

I actually like cliff hangers. Makes me more excited for the next in a series

Maybe that’s the rock climber in me

[copper charm]

Man I've been trying to play halo with my friend the past 2 days but the Xbox App on PC just won't work at all. Anyone else running into this issue?

[obsidian wyvern]

try using gamebar

[copper charm]

no dice either

I removed both apps in hopes of reinstalling them but the installing bar just stops 1/4th of the way there

[true kayak]

Install Infinite from Microsoft store?

[copper charm]

the game works fine

just can't do a party at all on PC

[true kayak]

Oh, well the app has never "worked" for me. Same thing about that update never finishes

[copper charm]

ugh

whyyy, my friend can't figure out discord

[true kayak]

Doesn't Infinite have coms too?

[copper charm]

they don't want to use in game chat, haha

[true kayak]

You can make it private to just your Fireteam Chat (Voice comms too)

[livid oyster]

Anyone been having issues with shadow play recently? Not sure if it was the latest driver update or the halo update, but I can’t get it to record

[hallow ridge]

Yall what should I buy with my 500 credits?

In halo infinite

Guys?

[floral pollen]

Anything you want really
Its hard after the crosscore price jump bc things are more expensive now, but there's still a few good options
I'd say prolly a stance, armor coating, or VISR tho, there's a few good ones between like 200 and 500 CR

[winter flame]

hopefully there's a good premium item in one of the operations

[copper charm]

I'm going through all the old battle passes rn

[hallow ridge]

Thank you 🐇

[winter flame]

if you havent got it i would spend 500 creds on the AR in the last operation

[hallow ridge]

Kk

[livid oyster]

Some cool effects that are 500 cr or less

[floral pollen]

it honestly kinda sucks imo, but ik there's ppl that like it

[obsidian wyvern]

it looks dumb

[winter flame]

rn my spartan is Jerome so i like having the classic AR

[floral pollen]

yea that too
I think like 90% of them are 3-500

[livid oyster]

Somehow managed to stick a guy with a frag grenade. It got stuck in their arm

[floral pollen]

I've had that heppen before

[tight remnant]

i prefer that assault rifle over the default. reach's design is my least favourite

[winter flame]

also the other day I had a team all wearing Mark 4, 5 or 7 with standard looking coatings. Took me back to before Halo went off the rails with the customisation.

[floral pollen]

I run Crimson Sun on my AR
From Tenrai III

Its honestly my favorite looking model bc its simple-ish without being default

[winter flame]

they also all played well and typed gg at the end, no coincidence i dont think

[hasty zinc]

the only cosmetic purchase I regret is the dragon barrel attachment for the BR

in first person it looks like a stalk of broccoli stuck to the end of the gun lol

[candid tusk]

Time to steam your BR.

[steady jolt]

That's what it's short for

[candid tusk]

Wait. It makes too much sense now. BRoccoli.

[steady jolt]

BRoccoli

https://tenor.com/view/broccoli-dancing-dance-gif-15066587186917274352

[hard crane]

BRoccolicious

[full garnet]

I got good news and bad news guys

Which did you want first

[winter flame]

i wonder if we'll ever get weapon cosmetics in campaign. It would be so cool if the campaign had customisation menu with John letting you give him a coating and change his weapon/vehicle models/coatings

[floral pollen]

you just need the HCS S1 BR coating then it can look like broccoli too

[full garnet]

I’m not gonna be on discord much longer if anyone is wondering

[obsidian wyvern]

bad news, you didn't stop using discord

good news, it's about to happen

wasn't off the mark by a lot

[hard crane]

I'm flabbergasted

[full garnet]

Im gonna be taking a massive break

[hard crane]

Finally gonna touch that grass, huh?

[dreamy stirrup]

it IS springtime

[full garnet]

Hi Sam

[hard crane]

I'm honestly still disappointed we don't have a green coating called "touching grass"

[floral pollen]

Hah
You expect me to be able to touch grass
I have like an inch of snow here bc Canada

[full garnet]

Well if your wondering im actually about to go on a flight to Oregon in a few hours. I’ll be going to the coast and I won’t have internet access at all

[hard crane]

Bummer.

[floral pollen]

Also morning/afternoon Sam

[full garnet]

So that’s why I’ll be taking a massive break. To see my girlfriend. And explore Oregon.

[winter flame]

enjoy the peace

[hard crane]

You're gonna explore Gravity Falls?

[full garnet]

Hopefully nothing bad happens. I hear Oregon is very dangerous.

[true kayak]

[full garnet]

For someone like me with autism, even the safest cities are dangerous due to autistics getting attacked all the time randomly. But im going to try to go, to the Microsoft Headquarters. And see some Halo stuff

[true kayak]

I am sad every time I look at the emoji for this server. No H5 emoji

:H5: :*(

[hard crane]

🇭5️⃣

There you go

[true kayak]

Thanks

[ocean herald]

maybe a kill effect of a bed of grass spawning below you

[winter flame]

+

[ocean herald]

i think i made a reddit post about wanting a windows xp shutdown sound as a kill effect lol

[hard crane]

WRITE IT DOWN 343, WRITE IT DOWN

[true kayak]

There's one I didn't think about just

[livid oyster]

The numbers, mason

[hard crane]

Free cosmetics ideas, fresh and here for the grabbing

[full garnet]

@sam can I get a job working for you

@dreamy stirrup

[hard crane]

You can be the coffee guy

Ah shoot he actually tagged Sam

[livid oyster]

Nope. I got dibs

[candid tusk]

Now he's gone and done it.

[livid oyster]

Lost his job before the interview

[hard crane]

So what's the problem? You can be the dibs guy while mike can be the coffee guy.

[hasty zinc]

dang, can't open MCC and Infinite at the same time

[obsidian wyvern]

time to play control like me

[hasty zinc]

just wanted to grab daily 😦

[obsidian wyvern]

id offer but I'm lazy

[hasty zinc]

it's all good

[winter flame]

use xcloud for one 😄

[candid solar]

Have a mythic effect where grass grows where you step.

[hard crane]

Please, please have someone taking all of these ideas and pass them to 343!

Have a "touching grass" bundle with a 10$ price tag on it and it'll sell like the hottest buns.

[ocean herald]

✍️

[winter flame]

make a thread for cosmetic ideas lol

[hard crane]

It is even fits with springtime!

[hard crane]

Ah I don't like threads, they're cluttering

[winter flame]

its the only way i can think of congregating feedback in a way that would be useful to the designers

[analog knot]

Cant open any other EAC games at the same time (I forget and try to open Fortnite too often)

[ocean herald]

you're probably better off making a post in the halo-infinite channel. there are already some there about cosmetic/feature requests

[potent wigeon]

A better ODST helmet 💀

[hard crane]

Why do you have to be that guy😐

[potent wigeon]

😔

[obsidian wyvern]

the odst helmets except artaius do look weird

[ocean herald]

https://tenor.com/view/your-not-that-guy-yourenotthatguy-gif-22098263

[next lintel]

Guys i just realised that there is no blood in halo infinite

is there a settings option to show blood ?

[ocean herald]

don't think so

[livid oyster]

It’s invisible to the naked eye

[ocean herald]

i forget what the criteria are for rated M, but i'd imagine it had to do with keeping it T

[next lintel]

damn i miss the blood

[fickle drift]

its about the money

means more countries can have it that censor stuff, like china doesnt aprove dead bodies in games

[next lintel]

Everyone loves blood

its a war game

[fickle drift]

but i think its mostly rating when it comes to blood

[potent wigeon]

Why are the pins so cursed 💀

[fickle drift]

for this channel?

[potent wigeon]

halo infinite is rated M

[potent wigeon]

yeh

[next lintel]

rate M ?

[dry dirge]

When firefight non KOTH? on infinite?

[fickle drift]

its rating T actually

[ocean herald]

no

[fickle drift]

ESRB rating , which strangley says, blood, mild language, and violence

but like where is the blood for that lmao

[next lintel]

i dont know about those ratings can someone explain ? i only know 5 star 4 star thats all

[fickle drift]

like technically there is, for like, when you shoot aliens but theres no pooling or anything

[willow hedge]

I think halo is a pretty cool guy

[ocean herald]

there's no gushing blood. i think when you shoot covenant you can see blood as the bullets hit but it's minimal

[potent wigeon]

dang

[potent wigeon]

look it up

[potent wigeon]

yup thats me, john halo the guy from halo

[ocean herald]

https://www.esrb.org/ratings-guide/

[desert dust]

i can help

[fickle drift]

i just miss flood tbh

[potent wigeon]

Why is 3 and ODST the only crossplay campaigns

[desert dust]

idk its dumb asf

[fickle drift]

new aliens are cool n all but like im nostalgic and want flood

[true kayak]

When you create your own on Forge

[potent wigeon]

I miss the halo 2/3 flood, they were so good

[fickle drift]

likely isnt possible due to how networking works for MCC

or the games themselves

[next lintel]

This is 2024 why people cant put blood , Even GPU companies makes new graphic cards to make things more realistic

[steady jolt]

Due to the networking model that Bungie used for older game campaigns

[potent wigeon]

And it is possible for 3 and ODST?

[potent wigeon]

broooo

[potent wigeon]

than why isnt reach and 4 (Which are newer games)

[fickle drift]

same thing applies

[ocean herald]

it's not because of gpu limitations, it's a stylistic choice

[steady jolt]

3 and ODST were updated, but it's a big job that requires time/resourcing

[fickle drift]

and MCC is no longer being supported

[potent wigeon]

And microsoft is a multi-billion dollar company

[fickle drift]

unless vulnerability stuff happens i believe

[steady jolt]

Nothing has been announced about MCC support

[tight remnant]

If only people had been okay with buying the spartan points

[steady jolt]

That has nothing to do with anything

[next lintel]

War games without blood sad choice

[steady jolt]

You can't throw money at something to make it fixed faster

[potent wigeon]

I mean halo infinite has microtransactions and still gets minimal updates

[potent wigeon]

but they removed all funding from mcc, unless theres a really big problem

[hasty zinc]

source?

[desert dust]

cant buy determination. if they updated H3 and odst then theres no excuse tbh

[steady jolt]

From memory, 3 and ODST has the work done when Firefight was being worked on. It would take months of work to do the other games

There absolutely is excuses

It's not a trivial change

[potent wigeon]

firefight is crossplay with all the games, so does multiplayer, so why cant campaign

[steady jolt]

Because multiplayer and campaign used different networking models

[desert dust]

like?

[potent wigeon]

https://twitter.com/mr_rebs_/status/1765832892804919595

[steady jolt]

For whatever reason Bungie decided to do that

[fickle drift]

Officially stated no, but its been speculated heavily due to devs who worked on the game getting this : https://twitter.com/technicalhalo/status/1734026362728702050 and MCC only had two engineers working on it in recent times, and one of them isnt even working on it anymore after being asked about it. Likely due to microsoft wanting to introduce micro transactions to MCC and community saying no

[steady jolt]

"trust me bro" is not a source

[hard crane]

People when they think games development is literally "flip the switch"

[potent wigeon]

wake me up when you see an MCC update

[steady jolt]

There literally was one a few weeks ago

[hasty zinc]

it just had an update not too long ago

[next lintel]

why bungie stopped working with halo ?

[winter flame]

oooh that's what i meant by a thread, i forgot discord lets you make threads in any channel

[steady jolt]

#announcements

[fickle drift]

i def dont think support will entirely drop support, but i think it will entirely just bug fixes/vulnerability stuff

[hard crane]

Excuse me but who the flip is that guy and why should I believe a single word that comes from him

[steady jolt]

They were done after Halo 2, wanted to do other games

Were under contract and eventually moved on

[next lintel]

oh

[ocean herald]

you meaning mentally done with halo? the last bungie halo was reach

[tight remnant]

Those who wanted to keep working on halo, joined up 343. Which was not a lot of people initially, though the number did grow over ten eventually

[steady jolt]

If Halo 2 had released the way they originally intended, they would have moved on sooner

[tight remnant]

Bungie got a sweet deal to get out of microsoft

[next lintel]

is it because they didnt get any profit or something ?

[potent wigeon]

but that doesnt mean they were done with it, and even so reach was never supposed to be a part of halo 2

[dreamy stirrup]

what

[tight remnant]

That doesn't make sense

[dreamy stirrup]

it's been pretty well established Bungie was Very Done making Halo

but they were contracted to make a certain number of games

[next lintel]

oh

[potent wigeon]

oh crap, I need to finish reading what ppl say before I reply 💀

[hard crane]

Ye think?

[tight remnant]

Were you scrolled up?

[potent wigeon]

No I just didnt understand it first time around

[candid solar]

Not the first time Rebs has made an unsubstantiated claim.

[winter flame]

so did they want longer so they could finish the fight in halo 2 or would it have just been the worse cliffhanger in gaming history if they could have left in 2004 🤔

[candid solar]

Halo 2 is stinky so it hardly matters

[fickle drift]

that would be so funny if it ended with 2

[tight remnant]

How it ended was not how they wanted it to end

[steady jolt]

Halo 2 was going to wrap up the story, they ran out of time and had to do Halo 3

[fickle drift]

halo 2 soundtrack for the remastered version is so good

[steady jolt]

H2s development was ... rocky

[potent wigeon]

halo 2 and 3 were supposed to be 1 game, but then they didnt have enough time so they split it, and they also had to change some things about halo 3

[fickle drift]

compliments the OG soundtracks well

[covert dove]

I’m glad they ran out of time, halo 3 was the goat

[steady jolt]

The original ending for Halo 2 is out there, somewhere

There's storyboards, etc

[true kayak]

Needs to be a book

[tight remnant]

no?

[desert dust]

game is easily the worst of the franchise (havent played H5 and only played infinite demo but infinite is better)

[potent wigeon]

are they open to the public?

[steady jolt]

Yes

[potent wigeon]

now this has got to be bait

[covert dove]

Bait used to be believable

[steady jolt]

Pretty sure Max Hoberman shared a bunch of stuff

[hard crane]

Man, I played just Infinite and even I wouldn't dare say something like that in here

[covert dove]

Infinite is better than 4 and 5. 4 had a better story though

[potent wigeon]

Theres gotta be a law against it somewhere

[ocean herald]

the last halo game made just needs to be master chief from each version of the game brawling it out

[steady jolt]

Halo 3 is my least favorite of them all

[potent wigeon]

4 had such a bad story

[true kayak]

Idk about an opinion about worst game in series when you don't play the games is said series

[covert dove]

Was better than infinite’s

[next lintel]

just asking what are the things would u guys expect from Halo 7

[desert dust]

nah H3 aiming is garbage because your shots arent even on target like they would be in the previous ones. Also the story was awful a stepdown from H2 the only good part of the story in H3 is cortana and gravemind everything else is extremely mid. even keyes daughter was good in H2 but in H3 very cringe.

[winter flame]

If Halo 2 got a year longer, it probably would have got a lot of Halo 3's features. So I'm not sure it would have made a whole lot of difference if Bungie has the time to finish Halo 2. Interesting to think about.

[potent wigeon]

I mean, if you played halo wars 2 it would make a lot more sense

[tight remnant]

Halo 4's story was amazing

[desert dust]

tbh you have to play the rest before you say that

[covert dove]

Valid point I suppose

[hard crane]

It's under the law of "Microsoft being a multimillion dollars company matters not when it comes to technical difficulties"

[next lintel]

I think Halo 4 cortana carried the show i do also like the story

[potent wigeon]

the aiming part is on your end tbh

[tight remnant]

The gunplay doesn't feel great in 3 I agree. The characters were not done very well in 3 I say too

[covert dove]

It’s not a matter of it not making sense, infinite’s story was just kind of bland

[desert dust]

it isnt you have to lead your shots way more in H3 campaign

only improvement from H2 is the physics thats it and all

[covert dove]

[potent wigeon]

I'd prefer bland to cringe and makes 0 sense

[candid solar]

Halo 3 moment

[covert dove]

5 was the only cringe campaign, I played the first 2 missions and turned that nonsense off

[hard crane]

Is it that time of the day yet?

[steady jolt]

Halo 3 is both bland and cringe

[true kayak]

But it was fun

[candid solar]

Okay, so you didn't play it and your opinion can be trashed. Got it.

[potent wigeon]

the SURRENDER THE AI scene:

[covert dove]

Yawn

[candid solar]

Yeah, bout what I did when I saw your comment.

[covert dove]

Bleh

[next lintel]

i love the fan animated version of that

[tight remnant]

Honestly when most people call something "cringe", I am more inclined to cringe at them. It's such a shallow thing mostly not even used right

[potent wigeon]

if you only played the first 2 missions you cant form an opinion

[potent wigeon]

"lore accurate master chief"

[covert dove]

Ah yes, so watching the cutscenes through to know the story discounts said opinion. Makes sense

[candid solar]

Oh, no, you absolutely can, it just gets rightfully ignored when people who know what's going on talk.

[desert dust]

bro played 40 minutes of content

[tight remnant]

In other words not lore accurate

[desert dust]

and came up with the word cringe 😂

[potent wigeon]

Fr 💀

[desert dust]

not even a redbox demo is 40 minutes

[covert dove]

It’s like watching a movie, I guess you can’t have an opinion because you weren’t part of making it 💀

[tight remnant]

So many people misunderstand who John is, and what he's like. Personality and so on

[potent wigeon]

a lot of halo 5's lore was said through dialogue broski, I wont lie it was carried by gameplay, but the lore wasnt bad

[obsidian wyvern]

we talking about the halo show?

[potent wigeon]

Like from the show or books?

[covert dove]

Thus watching clips online, not that hard to do

[desert dust]

"clips" not even full story?

[potent wigeon]

Now this has got to be bait, dont feed the trolls

[tight remnant]

No but I'd say it applies to it too. I'm talking about the people who think John would just insult an officer and violently snap to be 'COOL GUY" or other stuff like that

[covert dove]

Which is what I did, was not going to play something I didn’t like, so I watched to understand

[next lintel]

i cant play halo 5 so i watched a gameplay i cant say anything bad about it , but i wish that it had more MC moments .

[potent wigeon]

I doubt they played the games 💀

[tight remnant]

John has a certain way of thinking, moving, speaking.

[winter flame]

5's campaign is actually fun to play though

[potent wigeon]

I'd like a game where we swap between the perspectives of chief and a squad of ODST's kinda like a mix of 2 and ODST

[hard crane]

Wdym, John is that boring dude under the cool suit and helmet.

[covert dove]

[next lintel]

nuh huh

[tight remnant]

John could have been more open to the rest of his team in 5, but you COULD chalk it up to John wanting to stay closed due to the pain.

[potent wigeon]

Yeh spartan II's are very emotionally stunted

[hard crane]

Who's John anyway? Stop talking about that boring guy with the boring name, talk about Master Chief!

[covert dove]

John bungie

[tight remnant]

There's no difference

[potent wigeon]

Hi its me john halo, the guy from halo

[potent wigeon]

💀

[candid solar]

That's how I always took it tbh.

[next lintel]

at least that dude talks not like noble 6

[tight remnant]

A lot of the spartan-IIs have one way or another broken from their indoctorination to various degrees

[hard crane]

Unironically you're the perfect example for my hyperboliation

[hard crane]

But you as well, yeah

[potent wigeon]

real

[tight remnant]

Fred was able to form better connections with others including non-military personel.

You know, being a sled and all

Kelly was more outspoken with her emotions

[amber mirage]

Noble 6 talks. Just doesn't say anything worthwhile.

[potent wigeon]

Noble 6 isnt supposed to talk, thats the point, you're supposed to project youself onto him

[tight remnant]

Linda is the more lone wolf quieter one but even then she has personality and a certain care.

[hard crane]

That's not something to be proud of but ok

[tight remnant]

I'm not bland with no personality

[covert dove]

I mean they are human, at the end of the day

[tight remnant]

And 6 not 5

[potent wigeon]

misclick

[next lintel]

oh i thought he was a real character in a story , that game left a hole in my heart

[tight remnant]

Like i said earlier

[tight remnant]

this

[next lintel]

oh

[potent wigeon]

So characters like 6 and the rookie dont talk much because you're supposed to project yourself onto him, do yall think chief was supposed to be like that, cause he doesnt talk a whole lot in the first game and a half

[candid tusk]

Noble 6 was a camera with a gun. Someone to watch the others and how their story turns out, it's why Noble 6 was present for all of their deaths.

[next lintel]

ic

[amber mirage]

Except since Noble 6 did talk, it kinda took away from that

[candid tusk]

The trick is to play muted.

[candid solar]

Rookie was more of a camera.

[amber mirage]

Rookie is definitely more camera with a gun

Or maybe VCR with a gun, since he can see the past.

[hasty zinc]

What is it? More Brutes?

[candid tusk]

Ughhh.

[winter flame]

i think they just did too many silent protagonists honestly. I actually think 6 makes sense as one but the Rookie just didn't really need to exist. You could do ODST's story with one of the other ODSTs and just have the player more involved in the story. Basically one ODST just had to have a nap for that story to work, they didn't have to be silent.

[tight remnant]

I'm so glad Eric Dietz added the additional sections to halo the flood

[next lintel]

man still wish that dude lived , in the last mission i was like "less goo im going to kill the entire covenent in reach , man 6 is so cool" like that

[candid tusk]

They did the Arbiter so dirty.

[desert dust]

the terminals in odst provide a good story which makes up for it

[potent wigeon]

the whole point is that you're trying to find out what happened to the rest of your squad, how are you supposed to do that without the rookie?

[covert dove]

Because it’s not always the ones that talk who are worth caring about. “Actions speak louder than words” is a thing some people tend to really like

[amber mirage]

I think they could have just cut him out entirely and it would've still made sense, and probably be better as a story.

[winter flame]

literally be any other character in the squad lol?

they all meet up at the end

[potent wigeon]

the ones who's story you're recreating?

[amber mirage]

We already get to play as everyone in the squad, and that's where the entire story is told.

Could've just played as Buck or Dare in the end

[hasty zinc]

rookie just aimlessly walks around a dark city picking up trash

and listening to a podcast

[next lintel]

playing rookie hits different

[winter flame]

you would just have to adjust the story so the player finds his team sooner and plays through their mission. it's not really that hard to adapt that story to a non-rookie

[candid tusk]

Yeah, I think they're proposing skipping the detective and superintendent plots. Play the story mission by mission changing view, no transitional space. Which would be awfully simple.

[tight remnant]

Their actions dont make them a better character than those who tend to have dialogue though.

[winter flame]

im not proposing skipping the whole concept of the hub world lol

[obsidian wyvern]

i just dont want to play a character who speaks too much

[covert dove]

But they can. I mean people love chief who does a lot more with his actions than words

[potent wigeon]

thats ruining the little depth the game has

[candid tusk]

ARPGs, I get it. FPS? Nah. I'll watch a movie.

[covert dove]

Not everyone has to have more “depth” or backstory to be likable, essentially

[winter flame]

the rookie being a nobody doesnt add that much depth. not nearly as much as Noble 6 being a lone wolf

if one has to lose the silent protagonist, i'd go with ODST

[obsidian wyvern]

hyper lethal hyper lethal

[tight remnant]

That just makes them not a great character

[tight remnant]

John has more character than rookie or six

[hasty zinc]

https://tenor.com/OP58.gif

[candid tusk]

It makes them human.

[winter flame]

mate he can fly a super secret sabre what can the rookie do

[covert dove]

I think that was the point of the rookie though, wasn’t really supposed to be fleshed out nor be an important character that changes the tide of the war and saves lives, etc.

[potent wigeon]

chief has a lot of depth you just need to dig a litttle deeper

[obsidian wyvern]

^

[steady jolt]

Birbs

[tight remnant]

Also a personality, story and so on

[covert dove]

He’s a nobody, just a soldier lost in the city

[tight remnant]

Who doesn't tend to reply to others when they talk to him. Akward silence

[covert dove]

Seeing the war through a “regular” soldier’s eyes

[candid solar]

They are in a river. A river is a poorly constructed trench. They are not true Trenchbirds.

[candid tusk]

He's neurodivergent. Gotta give him time to process and analyze.

[covert dove]

Not everyone is a big time hero or some hot shot, the majority aren’t, which is what rookie is, just a random regular soldier

[next lintel]

lets think that he is mute

[winter flame]

but how important is that to the telling of ODST's story including the superintendent? For me not much honestly. I feel like hearing an actual human speak wouldnt have changed those experiences

[candid solar]

Rookie had no real effective impact on anything but ODST's final act, where he really is just an extra gun.

[potent wigeon]

exactly its a look at the war from the soldier's perspective, lets you see whats going on without being in a multibillion dollar suit on the finest drugs the UNSC has to offer

[covert dove]

I don’t disagree with him talking more, but the point is is that his story isn’t important. Again, he’s just a random soldier in the war, to get to see it from a different lens instead of just a Spartan’s, who are the “heroes”

[vagrant patrol]

Yall aren't talking about removing aim assist on controller, that should be the discussion here right now.

[obsidian wyvern]

i dont think him not talking was a bad thing, but 0 lines was funny. he didnt even say a single thing in the book he died in

[candid solar]

ODST's plot would've barely changed if his pod landed in the bay.

[potent wigeon]

average KnM player

[hard crane]

Skill issue

[vagrant patrol]

LOL

[next lintel]

didnt he kinda save others to escape

[vagrant patrol]

ITS NOT FAIR

[candid tusk]

The Halo 3: ODST movie needs Nicolas Cage to play The Rookie.

[candid solar]

No.

[winter flame]

you could say the same about the whole of Alpha 9. Buck doesn't even really care that much about the mission so much as finding his romantic interest.

[obsidian wyvern]

yk mkb has aim assist too

[covert dove]

I’d watch that

[hard crane]

That you got skill issues?

[potent wigeon]

Yes aim assist is OP and it does need to be nerfed, but it doesnt need to be removed

[candid solar]

Buck solo'd the hive, in case anyone forgot.

[forest aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/risitas-forocoches-uvasm-gif-22064855

[covert dove]

Cage with a noir theme in Halo? Sign me up

[potent wigeon]

?

[vagrant patrol]

I lose 1v1's long range even though I fire the first shot. It's just heart breaking.

[tight remnant]

Alpha Nine is not your average ODST squad

[winter flame]

Nor is the rookie your average soilder

the rookie is just the silent one

[potent wigeon]

thats a skill issue bro

[covert dove]

^

[candid solar]

I mean, I guess. Most people don't take concussions that well.

[true kayak]

Gotta keep firing

[desert dust]

nah sometimes its the aim assist

[tight remnant]

He more than likely stayed out of combat thanks to the superintendent's help

[desert dust]

i play every game on controller except halo

[tight remnant]

But he's not mute, he knows how to talk. Canonically he has talked

[potent wigeon]

I'm ignoring you after your halo 5 take

[desert dust]

huh

[winter flame]

he doesn't stay outta combat when im controling him 😄

[covert dove]

[desert dust]

i have never played halo 5 im pc 😂😂😂

[potent wigeon]

real

[tight remnant]

Sure, but an ODST shouldn't be able to tank more shots than a spartan and you do when you're controlling him

[next lintel]

i watched a gameplay 😭

[tight remnant]

Gameplay

[potent wigeon]

Wring person mb

[vagrant patrol]

It's definitely a skill issue 😦

[tight remnant]

Halo 5's story had issues but it's gameplay is fun

[desert dust]

they need to add it to pc man the game doesnt even look at bad 🤦🏾‍♂️

[tight remnant]

I enjoy sanghelios particularly

[fervent cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/odst-helmet-scifi-soldier-helmet-on-gif-19367981

[winter flame]

and gameplay is partly how the story is told in a video game. so i think pretending the rookie is a normal soilder and couldnt actually kill that many brutes is a stretch

[candid solar]

Bro has two silenced guns, a self preservation instinct, and an AI telling him what places are safe, and people still think he beat every brute in the area to death with a rock

[potent wigeon]

so why are blaming aim assist

[tight remnant]

From a gameplay perspective, running down the guardian was really cool and fun to do

[next lintel]

its an Exclusive

[potent wigeon]

Every 343 halo's story has issues

[candid tusk]

He can tank more shots because uhhhh he's smaller. Yeah. He's smaller and the shots that "hit" are just really close and he flinches.

[vagrant patrol]

Because controller players require LESS skill.

[desert dust]

i think its possible to play it with cloud gaming but thats a bad experience

[hearty token]

I wish I could try Halo 5 just for the sake of having played every halo game, hoping it one day is ported to PC

[potent wigeon]

they need to add halo 5 to the mcc

[candid tusk]

I fell off so many times. Felt like a big idiot. lol

[candid solar]

There's a difference between 'he killed everything ever because he's JUST THAT GOOD' and "he generally avoided combat until he couldn't because he isn't an idiot"

[potent wigeon]

Its neccesary for crossplay games because yes it requires less still, it still isnt as good as KnM

[hard crane]

I dare y'all to pass one day here without saying "Halo 5"

[obsidian wyvern]

an unknown inheritor

[potent wigeon]

true

[candid solar]

Like, his health doesn't regen, lmao

[next lintel]

Cloud gaming is good but i wont be able to play in that i have bad network

[tight remnant]

Halo 5 is special to me

[potent wigeon]

Mp or campaign

[obsidian wyvern]

it has aim assist

[tight remnant]

MP a lot. warzone, sandbox

[potent wigeon]

it does?

[winter flame]

so does the rookie have one of the highest brute kill counts of any trooper or nah? I think the game says he does.

[obsidian wyvern]

in infinite it does

[candid solar]

Like, until New Blood said otherwise, I was convinced Buck actually sidestepped the hunter pair.

[tight remnant]

Cloud gaming isn't ideal for halo indeed

[vagrant patrol]

Sell your xbox and get a PC. You'll never go back. It almost makes no sense to buy a console at this point, the price is about the same as a medium gaming rig. and you get so much more with a PC.

[candid solar]

Bro what copy of ODST did you play

[winter flame]

the one where you kill every brute you see

[tight remnant]

I did grind out 50 games a day mostly in cloud gaming against the spartan bots when i was grinding, since xbox live was having issues

I was able to, since it was against the bots, but not the best experience

[dreamy stirrup]

are you here just to be a negative nancy and rain on anything and everything?

[candid solar]

Sure as hell wasn't "strangle all brutes to death with their own entrails because rookie is actually a demonic shadow entity!!!'

[dreamy stirrup]

because EVERY story has issues. not just 343 ones.

[tight remnant]

No it doesn't..

[dreamy stirrup]

nothing is perfect.

[winter flame]

they literally increased the damage output from halo 3 what am i suppose to do

[vagrant patrol]

except for your beautiful face.

[potent wigeon]

Ummm I got my series S for $200 theres no way I could get 60 fps out of almost every game on a $200 dollar pc

[dreamy stirrup]

it's okay to let other people like things.

[candid solar]

Except for me.

[desert dust]

same i cannot use ethernet and my speed is 11 mps

[granite sky]

i was almost perfect in 2019...

[dreamy stirrup]

[livid oyster]

Bring back breakout mode for infinite! V1 to be specific!

[dreamy stirrup]

well that wasn't the emoji iw anted lol

[candid tusk]

It works well enough.

[next lintel]

mine 1 - 4 mbps

[candid solar]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-like-you-laughing-stud-gif-27270682

[potent wigeon]

I only rain on things that could have easily been better

[tight remnant]

I LAUGHED

[hard crane]

Oh wow, usually when I say something like this I get blasted immediately

[potent wigeon]

I wasnt dissagreeing with anyone

[candid solar]

Rain on 3, do it

[obsidian wyvern]

WHERE DO U GET ALL THESE

[winter flame]

something that is perfect is the bandit as the starting weapon in a halo infinite playlist 😄

[potent wigeon]

woah how do you use gifs?

[candid tusk]

They're built different.

[obsidian wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-rdj-robert-downey-jr-kidnapped-well-gif-14639224

[vagrant patrol]

Agreed 🙂 The bandit is such a perfectly balanced weapon.

[potent wigeon]

real

[dreamy stirrup]

the audacityyyyyy

[candid solar]

Same reason I got this cool juice box

[granite sky]

u have to be good boy long time don't be me

[candid solar]

I'm a special boy

[tight remnant]

You know what we need more of?

More halo gifs

[potent wigeon]

I wasnt a big fan of its MP and its campaign was a little bland, other than that its a really good game

[hearty token]

I think Infinite has one of the best stories in the halo series tbqh, maybe not THE best, but definitely the best of 343’s games

[tight remnant]

4 is still great

[potent wigeon]

ok

[obsidian wyvern]

apparently paramount have a library of halo gifs they upload

[potent wigeon]

Definitely the best 343 game story wise

[hard crane]

They just earned my sub

[next lintel]

i have some questions

[potent wigeon]

officially by paramount or by fans?

[tight remnant]

They're not the best in my opinion. There's a lot of other moments in the games that should be a gif

[obsidian wyvern]

by paramount

[granite sky]

where

[potent wigeon]

and you're not sharing????

[pulsar cobalt]

This is true

[hearty token]

Multiplayer gameplay is also really good just the launch could’ve been better, getting back into infinite since a couple months ago I love the multiplayer now

[steady jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-feed-them-lies-kwan-ha-halo-you-cant-lie-to-them-dont-lie-to-the-people-gif-25705817

[potent wigeon]

Multiplayer is the best of the series IMO

[vagrant patrol]

Multiplayer was good even at launch lol. It was literally halo gameplay.

[desert dust]

H2 story is perfect

[hard crane]

I
Need
Gif
Permssss

Please

[winter flame]

no

[obsidian wyvern]

no

[tight remnant]

The weapon cringing is a gif I'd definitely like to have

[amber mirage]

no

[obsidian wyvern]

PINS

[tight remnant]

You have it?

[steady jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-austin-powers-how-bout-no-no-gif-21508211

[potent wigeon]

I love h2 probably my favorite, but that is so bad

[desert dust]

H2 then the next best story is H4

[vagrant patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-grin-evil-smile-gif-26938884

[desert dust]

the H4 lore is insane

[potent wigeon]

now this has got to be bait

[hard crane]

I set through the entire gif only to get betrayed 🥺

[vagrant patrol]

gif gang reporting in

[tight remnant]

That's a sticker! I amost said Stckr

[next lintel]

wish they didnt nurf cortana

[desert dust]

watch lore videos H4 is peak

[hasty zinc]

Halo 4 🐐

[tight remnant]

That's not Cortana

[potent wigeon]

I played the game, it was alright

[tight remnant]

I'll take 4 over 2 but 2 is great

[pulsar cobalt]

Eaglestrike getting a kit it seems i can click the kit option now ?

[vagrant patrol]

My brother. We stand under the hate together.

[hearty token]

I guess I mean the gameplay itself has always been good for multiplayer, but the amount of content was more bare bones at launch. Lack of forge and custom games, some game modes missing, etc. But it feels pretty good now

[potent wigeon]

werent you the one whining about aim assist?

[next lintel]

i know but i mean ...

[candid solar]

You don't mean in terms of abilities, do you.

[vagrant patrol]

well back when I played on xbox, halo 4 was my go to. There wasn't cross play, and I was a beast! I haven't touched a controller in yeras now though.

[tight remnant]

I can click on armour kit on eaglestrike. It doesn't have any items in it.

[candid tusk]

I hope 343 plans to make another Halo 4 King of the Hill Fueled by Mountain Dew ™️ -like game.

[winter flame]

halo is best when you start with an M392. Infinite with a bandit, Reach with a DMR. Fite me. 😄

[hard crane]

Ah well, since I'm never getting inheritor anyway

Infinite is the best halo game

[pulsar cobalt]

Wasn't able to click on it before the update

[potent wigeon]

is that your real opinion or a troll

[tight remnant]

M395

[candid tusk]

With the popularity of Pokemon Go and Monster Hunter Now, it feels like it's the perfect fit. They've done it once, just need to do it again.

[hasty zinc]

Halo GO

[hard crane]

In both scenarios it's still a bit better than your actual opinions, come on

[next lintel]

i telling that halo 4 cortana is the best cortana (design)

[ocean herald]

Catching children across the galaxy

[hard crane]

OH MY GOD YES

[potent wigeon]

💀

[candid solar]

I'm getting the spray bottle.

[hard crane]

OH MY GOD, NO

[next lintel]

which one

[hasty zinc]

the one with water in it

[candid tusk]

Yes. Could do king of the hill, territories, assault, capture the flag. All sorts of fun stuff if it were team based.

[potent wigeon]

My only opinions I've shared are that halo 4 aint that good, 343 could have done better, and the show could have been better

[vagrant patrol]

If 343 made another campaign, I wish it to play like metroid: Prime. It would be so glorious.

[hasty zinc]

you wanna roll around in a little ball as Chief?

[next lintel]

to train them and make them Spartans right ? RIGHT ?

[potent wigeon]

Like a mobile game? but how would in incorperate pokemon go's gameplay

[potent wigeon]

YES

[potent wigeon]

its still kidnapping

[candid tusk]

Shoot covenant around the world for points.

[vagrant patrol]

Just make it an equipment abiliity instead 🙂

[hasty zinc]

https://tenor.com/bahTX.gif

[hard crane]

Halo infinite expansion but you play as Kwan

[potent wigeon]

real

[tight remnant]

One of the things that makes pokemon go great is community

[candid tusk]

Just like Halo.

[potent wigeon]

what are yalls thoughts on helldivers

[tight remnant]

Real life community

[hasty zinc]

the promethean knights were originally gonna roll around in ball form

[ocean herald]

10/10

[candid solar]

As usual, the halo fanbase ruins it

[potent wigeon]

🗣️

[hard crane]

Halo but you're a droideka

[candid tusk]

Fantastic. Need a Halo: Helljumpers game.

[potent wigeon]

Only bad thing about it is that its not on xbox

[vagrant patrol]

somebody made an awesome forge map of Bootlegged Helldivers, and it was so much fun. I don't have the link, but check it out. It's exceptionally well done.

[potent wigeon]

wdym?

[potent wigeon]

On infinite?

[hard crane]

Ayo, what

[vagrant patrol]

Yeah! It's really good. quality.

[ocean herald]

Buy a ps5

[potent wigeon]

I aint wastin allat

[vagrant patrol]

it was called "bootlegged helldivers" or something like that.

[potent wigeon]

I'll have to look it up later

[granite sky]

"helldivers at home"

[hard crane]

Hey, come on! Helldivers is Halo at home.

[vagrant patrol]

haha, I laughed when I saw it too. Thinking it was clickbait, it was definitely awesome and worthy of the title.

[candid solar]

I like Hell divers, but a lot of people are making very poor comparisons between it, and halo that are not being made in good faith. Most of these people happen to also be people who tend to have a lot of aggression against halo as a franchise, despite saying, they are fans of it.

[next lintel]

im going to sleep goodnight

[candid solar]

I am using speech to text, and I am realizing why I hate speech to text

[granite sky]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/halo-infinite/ugc/maps/41a5daf5-7341-495f-8b47-03abcba03bb5

[hard crane]

Well, most people see guns and aliens and go "ah it's the same"

[true kayak]

It's bugs

[hard crane]

Alien bugs

[vagrant patrol]

Yes! that's it. The bootleg name is the gamemode title I guess

[true kayak]

Big bugs

[vagrant patrol]

Okay, its halo time now. Good chat everyone!

[candid solar]

Well, I think it is more the pods and the black armor. Either way, held divers borrow more from starship troopers, then it ever borrowed from halo.

[hard crane]

Yeeeeeep.

[candid solar]

Not to mention, even the guy leading hell divers development doesn't like the two franchises being compared as frequently and aggressively as they are. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

[hasty zinc]

and Halo def borrowed from Starship Troopers lol

[tight remnant]

Though people want more ODST games stuff

[hard crane]

Yeah I've seen the comment, pretty wholesome

[candid solar]

Not saying it didn't, but they draw from different pools alongside. Halo was far less aggressive about it.

[hasty zinc]

I agree

[candid solar]

Not to beat the dead horse, but most military themed sci fi tends to aggressively borrow from Starship Troopers anyways, book or movie.

[potent wigeon]

thanks broski

[solid abyss]

the starship troops book was cool

[potent wigeon]

I want to help super earth

but its not on xbox :(

[hard crane]

Don't you have a PC?

[potent wigeon]

its gpu broke and I dont have enough money to replace it

[hard crane]

F

[candid tusk]

Make one out of sticks and mud.

[hard crane]

In a cave, with a box of scraps

[fallen atlas]

Is there a reason the infinite menus load up so slow?

[potent wigeon]

💀

[candid solar]

Peppermint...

[hard crane]

Afaik it happens once a while, something about the shaders

[hard crane]

Ok but why do I need it so badly

[tight remnant]

I wish mega had better distribution

[ocean herald]

I think people draw the comparison for 2 reasons, first of which is ODSTs are functionally basically helldivers. I had read something (can’t remember where) that said a helldiver/odst-esque game had been pitched but it ultimately went nowhere. The second reason is I think a lot of the fanbase still holds onto the days of old where halo was the ultimate couch co-op game

[tight remnant]

I'd want to buy stuff but they're not even at toys r us much

[potent wigeon]

Also ODSTs have been calling themselves helljumpers since 2003

[candid tusk]

Wait a minute. You still have a Toys R Us? I thought they went cablooey.

[hard crane]

Last time I heard they're actually opening again

[candid tusk]

Wild days we live in.

[tight remnant]

We have toys r us in Canada

[tight remnant]

2001

[potent wigeon]

mb

[tight remnant]

ODSTs were out before CE was out

[potent wigeon]

Dang, I didnt know that

[candid solar]

Not much to think about, it's pretty obvious if you know (not) much about Halo and know a little bit about Helldivers. The issue is mostly that it's still a pretty flimsy comparison.

[potent wigeon]

I just knew they were in the first book so I went with that

[ocean herald]

It’s not though

[candid solar]

It is though.

[tight remnant]

First book came out before the game

[hasty zinc]

yeah the book came before the game

[candid solar]

Celsius or monster?

Same price for same count.

[potent wigeon]

I prefer Fahrenheit 🇺🇸 🛢️ 🦅

[hasty zinc]

[ocean herald]

You would have to make very minimal tweaks to rebrand helldivers as ODSTs/Starship Troopers

[obsidian wyvern]

its bad that i laughed at this

[tight remnant]

That would not fit in halo...

[hasty zinc]

good, I'd like a different style Halo game

[blissful lava]

Based

[hasty zinc]

not necessarily helldivers

[candid solar]

Just completely change the core gameplay, change the core elements, completely change the entire theme of the game from pseudo-authoritarian propaganda parody, change a large amount of the character aesthetics, the enemies, the setting.

[hasty zinc]

but just something different

[blissful lava]

Mega Blox Halo when?

[obsidian wyvern]

i propose
https://www.halopedia.org/Halo:_Starfighter

[candid solar]

Plz

[obsidian wyvern]

i will never get over this not making it 😩

[hasty zinc]

it's pretty devastating

[tight remnant]

Yes

Mega construx*

[potent wigeon]

kinda like star wars squadrons?

[ocean herald]

You would just need to change the theme and the enemies

[obsidian wyvern]

i dont know, i didnt ever read past what was in that embed lol. i just imagined a more fleshed out version of that sabre mission from reach

oh thats literally what it was lol

The prototype was intended to take the concepts behind the Sabre space fighter combat section in the Halo: Reach campaign level Long Night of Solace and expand upon them into a full game. Released concept art showcases a space battle between F-41 Broadswords and Is'belox-pattern Banshees with Phoenix-class colony ships in the background.[1]

[steady hemlock]

Moni Moni Moni

I like how the general chat is pointless cuz we just talk about halo and we already have #halo-discussion

[potent wigeon]

Killin the vibe broski

[blissful lava]

True tho this is a Halo discord

Ppl gonna talk Halo here lol

[tight remnant]

One thing about any halo space depictions I have is, it should stick to its halo space fighting root, with long engagements. Not star wars style close range fights only

[vagrant sable]

Hmm.....

[tribal kettle]

Is anyone having problems with de-sync worse now than before the new update legit question

[tight remnant]

One of halo's most famous space battles is the Keyes loop. Where the UNSC Iroquois went around a planet in the middle of the engagement

[obsidian wyvern]

im having enough problems to the point where i dont want to play the game anymore 😔

[tight remnant]

I've read some stuff about some people. A friend has more trouble now playing with NA friends from the UK than he did before the update

[tribal kettle]

Ive spent more time shooting at ppl rubberbanding then actually enjoying doing the challenges

[granite sky]

sounds cool

[obsidian wyvern]

higher ping is just unplayable now. ive been playing with panda, whos in japan, for about a week and 150 ping today felt worse than 300 ping before

[zinc urchin]

gloves in halo infinite should be cross core

[tight remnant]

That's what my friend is experiencing

[blissful lava]

One issue I've been having is shooting blanks. Most noticeable in fiesta for whatever reason

[hasty zinc]

quick, name the weapon/vehicle this reticle is from

[ocean herald]

Wasp?

[zinc urchin]

i got no clue

[blissful lava]

Fortnight

[ocean herald]

Bandit?

[obsidian wyvern]

prowler

[hasty zinc]

BOOM

[ocean herald]

Prowler?

[hasty zinc]

yes

[zinc urchin]

from halo 5?

[zinc urchin]

oh that one

[obsidian wyvern]

i had to double check the name because theres also the unsc prowler

[zinc urchin]

thats the prowler i thought of

[tribal kettle]

Oh dude and being away from and around a corner out view and boom headshot an they aint no way they got los for any hit let alone headshot

[next crow]

is there a way to aim only when aim button is held instead of staying scoped in infinite

[zinc urchin]

fr, it goes both ways tho, it happens to me, but then ill get someone like that

[obsidian wyvern]

yes there is a setting

[zinc urchin]

what

oh

[next crow]

i'm blind i guess

[zinc urchin]

are you asking about how to change the scope from a toggle to a hold?

[next crow]

yea

[zinc urchin]

oh, yeah that should be in the controller settings

[steady hemlock]

Sorry guy from halo (captain Keyes)

[zinc urchin]

the hold to zoom

[steady hemlock]

Keyes would totally say broski right

[tight remnant]

I keep getting "We cant save more data for this game or app" 0x80830003 in several games..

It's affected me on minecraft and now in star field it wont load my save

[steady hemlock]

Oh idk how to help sorry

[obsidian wyvern]

@faint mantle starfield problems

[tight remnant]

Not just starfield

[steady hemlock]

They need to add an extra gig update to MCC so it's 117 gigs

[tight remnant]

My minecraft worlds won't sync to the cloud properly either due to the same bug

[steady hemlock]

Might be not enough space on your computer

[tight remnant]

I'm on xbox.. series x

[steady hemlock]

Maybe not enough space

[tight remnant]

I have enough GB. Over 50

[steady hemlock]

Left?

[tight remnant]

Yes

[forest lagoon]

I remember seeing an announcement saying to not play Minecraft right now because of a major bug and your world might be corrupted but I didn't look more into it

[tight remnant]

This has been going on for more than a year

Even in fortnite

[steady hemlock]

I've had issues with around 55 gigs left, just try and delete a game or two you won't play

[obsidian wyvern]

oh yeah, on the ms store version

[tight remnant]

And clearing local saves means data gets permanently deleted. I lost minecraft progress due to trying to fix that bug last year

[forest lagoon]

That's super weird. Is there a limit on the cloud save we can have? I never looked into that

[steady hemlock]

Hmm

[tight remnant]

They say it shouldn't

[steady hemlock]

Yeah i don't rlly know

[tight remnant]

Most solutions I try to find online are not useful

[forest lagoon]

Have you contacted Xbox support to see if there's some weird glitch with your account?

[cedar turret]

I overheard heard someone’s grandparents ask about when they were getting great grandchildren. I interrupted and told them to be proud of the grandkids they have even if they’re mediocre.

[tight remnant]

I should but considering I haven't seen much success online I don't know how well it'll go. Most advice goes to. "have you tried factory resetting (but keep games and apps)". Which you know... if your game doesn't sync to the cloud then that's terrible advice because you just end up losing all your data that didn't make it to the cloud in the first place

[forest lagoon]

Is there a way you can make a physical backup of your game data before trying that? Like backing up to an external USB/hard drive? I definitely wouldn't erase anything without making sure there's a recovery method first. That would suck to lose everything like that

[tight remnant]

I don't own any free storage media that's big enough to accomodate the requirements to transfer

[hasty zinc]

first one to tell me specifically where I am, wins

[tight remnant]

One thing that annoyed me too was how one solution mojang support had recommended for something world wise was to buy a realm. Which is not really great support solution when you're trying to fix a bug with worlds or something

[obsidian wyvern]

the ark, where the tanks go at the bottom

[hasty zinc]

hax

[tight remnant]

after the guilty spark section

?

[hasty zinc]

yeah when you activate the light bridge

managed to bypass kill barrier

there's just a wall down here, nowhere to go lol

[obsidian wyvern]

your equipment made it easier to guess

[hasty zinc]

I was going to say the equipment was a big hint

[gaunt delta]

why is the pistol so good in infinite? i keep beating out assault rifles battle rifles bandits at midrange

it really shouldnt be this good

[winter flame]

are you saying its fake and they actually teleport? How could Bungo do that!

[hasty zinc]

betrayed

[obsidian wyvern]

ok now the big guys are posting it too, glad about that https://twitter.com/HuNteR_Jjx/status/1770446672780501419

Justin Joseph (@HuNteR_Jjx) on X

Aimer feelin heavyyyyyyyy

Twitter · Mar 20, 2024, 1:45 PM

[graceful inlet]

Good night!
tomorrow is the halo series finale!!!! 😇

[tight remnant]

12 hours left

[obsidian wyvern]

i have yet to watch a single episode lol

[graceful inlet]

thats the time I'll wake up 😮

[hasty zinc]

Marines always ruining my strat