general-chat

[royal pollen]

the bandit is a clumsy as the H3 pistol for me

[hallow sandal]

I really enjoy the bandit, never going to get used to the recoil tho

It's a fun weapon tho

[vocal charm]

I do not care

[royal pollen]

even if a player is AFK shooting back of head that miss

[jade gust]

The Bandit at least can deal damage unlike the Halo 3 pistol, that pistol was horrible to use

[hallow sandal]

I just realized your Delta from RvB

[round laurel]

The Halo 3 magnum is a meme.

[vocal charm]

Recoil is very goofy but if you can learn to use it it’s amazing

[vocal charm]

Yes

[sour gate]

what were they thinking when they made it do next to no damage

[hallow sandal]

Still looking for the alpha?

[vocal charm]

The pistol in H3 was only good for Grunts and staggering brutes it was useless in multiplayer

[tight remnant]

I enjoy the bandit a lot personally

[hallow sandal]

Same

[tight remnant]

Though I'd still like DMR, and the bandit to be added in campaign, and a good variant

[vocal charm]

I’m dead man I’m just a memory

[tight remnant]

and the halo 3 pistol is bad, the halo 5 pistol is amazing though

[royal pollen]

I can kill better with bandit if I don't zoom & aim for the groin

[vocal charm]

They should bring back retro weapons for Forge like in H5

[hallow sandal]

I know, let's just pretend thats not the case, cuz I really like your character

[raw raptor]

A

[vocal charm]

Like CE Magnum, BR65, etc

[vapid siren]

those who do not like bandit are either cowards or weaklings

[vocal charm]

Also where TF ARE THE PUMP AND PLASMA RIFLE???

[fickle drift]

thats... good to know.

[vapid siren]

tfw the bulldog is pump action

[hallow sandal]

Dunno

[vocal charm]

you know what I mean

[vapid siren]

i do and i do not care

[vocal charm]

Understandable

[round laurel]

Bulldog better.

[tight remnant]

I want the storm rifle back, halo 5 type

[vapid siren]

my bulldog drip is goated

[tight remnant]

Shred enemies

[hallow sandal]

Hot take

[vapid siren]

pre or post nerf

[tight remnant]

pre of course

[vocal charm]

I know a lot of people are big fans of the Bulldog but I think the two can coexist

[round laurel]

I agree

[vapid siren]

ngl... bulldog makes the game more engaging

og shotty is a bit of an i win button in a lot of engagements

[hallow sandal]

The normal shotgun could be a power weapon

[vocal charm]

The Pump could work as a power weapon where as the Bulldog is the more common version

[vocal charm]

Yes

[vapid siren]

ok and what maps would actively support a shotgun as the T3

[hallow sandal]

Great mind think alike

[vocal charm]

nO CLUE!

[jade gust]

I miss the Storm Rifle so much, I need back badly

[vapid siren]

you start to see the cracks in the idea tho then yeah?

[vocal charm]

Oh Streets

[hallow sandal]

Don't know, don't care

[vapid siren]

not really ngl

you'd lose both bulldog AND rockets on the map to support that

compbros may rejoice at part of that but overall the map has a lot of long wide angles with little cover so a shotgun as T3 starts to get weird

the map suits rocket play

[hallow sandal]

The old shotty was fun tho, the new one is kinda boring and just shoots sponges

[vapid siren]

ok now what about the receiving end. how often could you beat the old shotty in a fight

[vocal charm]

Like I said, I think the Bulldog and Pump should coexist as they have quite different feelings and styles

[hallow sandal]

Often

[vapid siren]

lot of the time it was a 1tap and done. no retaliation no nothin

[hallow sandal]

Maybe you're just bad

[vocal charm]

Pump would have shorter range, it would need some rebalancing but it wouldn’t be hard to make sure it doesn’t overlap with the Bulldog

[hallow sandal]

Or I'm bad and got matched with babys

[vapid siren]

assuming an equal skill of both players, and remembering that og shotty was t2 and often unmarked

it was a lot of just "do not pass go"

[vocal charm]

The Bulldog has a pretty damn tight spread with a high fire rate

[hallow sandal]

Either way it was fun

[vocal charm]

The pump had higher spread and big damage but had like a full second between shots

[hallow sandal]

Very tight, you actually need to aim, kinda crazy

[vapid siren]

thing is bulldog has some relatively short range already all things considered. any closer and we're just going to melee range which is somewhat unengaging and if that's the case why not just melee combo with bulldog

[severe basalt]

How come the xp boosts on the battle pass do nothing?

[vapid siren]

a similar ttk with more versatility

[severe basalt]

Like I swear I've "unlocked" a ton but can't use them

[hallow sandal]

Why don't you like the old shotty?

[hallow sandal]

Some dumb glitch

I dunno

[severe basalt]

Guess they aren't going to fix

[hallow sandal]

I hope they do

[lime elbow]

Evening

[hallow sandal]

Evening

[vapid siren]

because it took very little skill to leverage and was a 1shot capable T2 with generous ammo reserves and its only real "fun" was being something for infection cause shotguns and zombies are le iconic combo

[lime elbow]

Hru

[vocal charm]

Relatively yes, but the fun of the Pump was getting that close and not having to do any combos or anything, the pump made you feel like Doomguy with its beefy

[vapid siren]

and again. how often were you having fun getting 1shot in the face BY said shotty

it isnt a fight that's just getting deleted

[hallow sandal]

Good, arguing with some dude who doesn't like the old shotgun

[sour gate]

pump action is cool
slap it in firefight

[hallow sandal]

Maybe just, run away

[lime elbow]

Damn which shotgun the og? 2 3?

[fickle drift]

We got Caboose Delta Griff whole gang starting to show up

[sour gate]

all of em

[vapid siren]

how can you run away if you're instakilled

do you see the issue

[hallow sandal]

All of the above

[lime elbow]

Damn

[vocal charm]

Often, actually. The pump was pretty fun to fight due to its extremely limited range and I think its best incarnation was Reach

[hallow sandal]

Short range

[lime elbow]

Yep

[hallow sandal]

It's a very hot take

[lime elbow]

I see

[hallow sandal]

Hru?

Are you good?

[lime elbow]

Alright just ehh thinking about chuurch

Lol

[vocal charm]

The OKO range would have to be a little farther than H2, but it certainly couldn’t hold that much ammo.

[sour gate]

it's annoying to get one hit but alot of weapons already do that(sniper, rocket, energy sword, gravity hammer) so adding another that can counter the sword better than a bulldog would be nice

[hallow sandal]

Epsilon, Church, director, what is his real name

[vocal charm]

Yes PLEASE I hate Street 1v1s ENTIRELY BECAUSE OF THE ROCKET

[lime elbow]

Epsilon because he was first ai if I'm not mistaken

[vocal charm]

You can’t exactly counter a ROCKET

[sour gate]

only way to counter it is with a repulsor but you gotta time it right

[hallow sandal]

That's a great point

[vocal charm]

Alpha was Church from Season 1-6

[lime elbow]

Well I mean you can if you run

[hallow sandal]

I know

[lime elbow]

Ahhh thank you

[vocal charm]

This isn’t halo 5 tho, the sprint won’t teleport you 9 feet away in the blink of an eye

[lime elbow]

Right

[hallow sandal]

Looks like Hawkner gave up

[sour gate]

you can actually counter tank rounds, wraith rounds, and probably warthog rockets. I've only repulsed the tank and wraith rounds once

[fossil skiff]

Halo 5 sprint sucks ngl

[hallow sandal]

I have never done that

[hallow sandal]

Agree

[vocal charm]

The rocket launcher itself is balanced but it SUCKS on streets

[lime elbow]

Halo 5 in general sucks

[hallow sandal]

That's what I thought

[lime elbow]

Fr

[vocal charm]

H5 had good multiplayer and customs and forge and sandbox

[lime elbow]

Ok I'll give you that one

[vocal charm]

But reqs and campaign ruined it

[fickle drift]

Is that I was going to say the same thing I wasn't fond of its story but the multiplayer was fun

[jade gust]

Halo 5's definitely not got the best story, but it definitely has some good things it brought to the series, I love the seat swapping mechanic that was added

[hallow sandal]

H5 is a good game, just not a good Halo game

[lime elbow]

Agreed

[jade gust]

Do wish that we kept the Forerunner weapons from Halo 5 when Infinite was being made though

[tight remnant]

Halo 5 has the best halo sandbox in the series

[sour gate]

I didn't know you could either until I got lucky lol

[jade gust]

Like, I need the Light Rifle back so bad

[hallow sandal]

I haven't done that because I suck with the repulser

[vocal charm]

I wish we kept
y’know
More than 6 weapons in the sandbox

[tight remnant]

amazing halo multiplayer halo 5 has

[hallow sandal]

I play with keyboard and mouse

[lime elbow]

Alright well ima go mess with my Halo figs

[vocal charm]

Good fun

[hallow sandal]

Hot take

[tight remnant]

No

[sour gate]

heck yeah
I like to pose them

[hallow sandal]

Have fun

[hallow sandal]

SAME!!

[jade gust]

I also wish the Hydra design was kept from Halo 5 as well, the one in Infinite just looks like a beefier assault rifle to me

[lime elbow]

Fr and thanks yall have fun and I may make a red vs blue diorama

[vocal charm]

H5 multiplayer was great, reqs were a big blemish tho

[vocal charm]

Very good

[lime elbow]

Yess

[tight remnant]

Warzone is amazing

[hallow sandal]

I guess

[tight remnant]

and I like all the REQ variatns and weapons and vehicles and stuff

[sour gate]

I didn't mind reqs all to much
I liked how you could earn them purely by playing the game

[fossil skiff]

I’m glad the tank design in 5 wasn’t carried to infinite, 5’s tank had virtually 0 gun depression lmao

[tight remnant]

Me too, something you can't do in infinite for the res of the shop

[vocal charm]

Yeah but they were slow, completely luck, and you could buy them with real money

[tight remnant]

Halo 5 scorpion is better designed than the other one

[vocal charm]

I think that if you buy the Campaign you should be able to earn credits by playing the game

[sour gate]

I just played warzone exclusively since I sucked at pvp

[fossil skiff]

Are you talking graphics or gameplay

[tight remnant]

realistically

[hallow sandal]

Ok, now that is a hot take

[tight remnant]

also has a better cannon

[hallow sandal]

How

[jade gust]

It makes more sense from a real world standpoint is what they're getting at

[hallow sandal]

K

[vocal charm]

They should add every Halo weapon into Forge AND THEN balance them and add them to multiplayer

[hallow sandal]

Yes

[sour gate]

I think we're forgetting the more important question which is will we get the grunt announcer

[jade gust]

I doubt they'll just throw everything into Forge and then start balancing it, that's a horrible way of adding weapons into games

[vapid siren]

thats... not how that works

[tight remnant]

M512 smooth-bore high-velocity cannon vs M990 electrothermal-chemical smoothbore cannon

[hallow sandal]

Welcome back

[hallow sandal]

What, I don't speak American

[tight remnant]

What does that have to do with anything?

also: Hannibal scorpion!

[vocal charm]

I really mean like the classic weapons, and some of them could stay exclusive to Forge

[vapid siren]

i didnt realize we were playing Mythic suddenly

[sour gate]

the goat!!!

[jade gust]

Oh I miss the Hannibal vehicles so bad

[balmy tundra]

I want more hannibal stuff

[jade gust]

Again, not how that works, the weapons would still need balancing

[balmy tundra]

can we get weapon variants from them that in lore are like prototype lasers or whatever

[sour gate]

nah

[jade gust]

Not to mention the old models would look horrible next to the newer models and so, remaking assets would need to happen

[balmy tundra]

like how BR XX is just a laser tag weapon in the lore

[vapid siren]

new models, texture, audio, animations, base stats design, designating T1-3, and overall if it isn't going to serve a functional purpose in the sandbox proper then why add it

[balmy tundra]

Just wait until 343 lets people mod infinite

[vocal charm]

I know but I’m saying they wouldn’t need the perfect balancing that the current weapons have to add them to forge for people to just have fun with

[vapid siren]

to satisfy nostalgiabros? thats a small subset of the fanbase i gotta say. a LOT of players just want to play the game and that involves stuff in the sandbox proper for regular MP

[jade gust]

Indeed, which is allot of work

[stuck ruin]

Do people play Halo 4 social matches anymore?

[balmy tundra]

on MCC?

whenever the challenge wants that to happen

[vapid siren]

and how many people play forge/customs compared to regular mm

[tight remnant]

I think the halo infinite variants need rebalancing for probably the majority of them

[fickle drift]

Afternoon

[jade gust]

People would complain the classic weapons are limited to Forge if they did that

[balmy tundra]

though there are these people who play halo 4 swat a lot

[tight remnant]

I enjoy husky raid but it would be funner with 5's sandbox

[vapid siren]

id say a good amount are in ok spots. the commando and ravager variants are the roughest of the bunch if anything

everything else is an interesting enough up or sidegrade

[balmy tundra]

like, i can see them maybe adding the old shotgun, but only as a power weapon

the rest seem less likely

[sour gate]

speaking of the commando. whenever I rapid fire the gun it sounds like someone hitting tubes together to get the noise

[stuck ruin]

Might try setting one up. I had started a search for H4 social games but I didn't include SWAT.

[jade gust]

Like, there's a couple classic weapons I'd like to see brought back, mainly the Plasma Rifle, Carbine, Needle Rifle and the Forerunner weapons we got in Halo 5. But I also recognise there's allot of work that would need to be done to make those work and be balanced in Halo Infinite

[balmy tundra]

the railgun is essentially just going to do what the skewer does already, the grenade launcher might have some use in the sandbox but it might conflict with the hydra

[jade gust]

Halo 5 had both and it was fine

[balmy tundra]

the banished need a headshot capable midrange weapon

[vapid siren]

the GL would go on the toes of the Cindershot more than anything

[jade gust]

Kinda why I wish the Carbine came back

[sour gate]

I don't see how

[balmy tundra]

i forgot the cindershot bounced tbh

[sour gate]

GL is single shot while cinder is multi shot

[vapid siren]

ok and how do you USE the cindershot

[vocal charm]

Halo 5 did it well imo, there were things like the CE Magnum but they were virtually nonexistent outside of customs and very rarely Warzone which was so chaotic it was ok to have unbalanced stuff

[stuck ruin]

I would like to see some H5 weapons come back. The covenant ones in particular are pretty cool.

[jade gust]

The Cindershot is basically a direct upgrade over the Reach Grenade Launcher

[vapid siren]

and a ton of people played various warzone modes

[jade gust]

Fair! I liked allot of the Covenant designs from that game

[vapid siren]

[tight remnant]

Plasma pistol variant is terrible, so is the pulse carbine. the attle rifle effectively in multipalyer doesnt really work that great, the stalker rifle sidegrade is kinda useless to have

[vapid siren]

the plasma pistol is just the h4 boltshot just get up close and headshot a dude

[tight remnant]

Mangler variant is not that interesting

[vapid siren]

actually an instant hs kill at <11m

[sour gate]

like a rapid fire grenade launcher that I can actively control the direction of. Grenade Launcher isn't like that it's a single shot with no active control

[vocal charm]

Bounce off the ground, but lead the projectile to hit your target which will get you a direct hit

[vapid siren]

and that is different from the GL how.

do you see my point

[vocal charm]

I don’t get why so many people can’t use the Cindershot

[balmy tundra]

people are dumb sometimes

[sour gate]

even if in a sandbox it's similar I would still rather have both than see one kicked out just cause it's similar

[stuck ruin]

I hate the fact that the ruined the plasma pistol by basically making all the energy weapons fill that role but do it better. It got rid of the plasma pistol niche.

[balmy tundra]

the pistol can't emp anymore because shock weapons exist now

[vapid siren]

as a solid shield stripper that is the trump card against OS?

like its always been?

since CE before EMP was a thing?

[balmy tundra]

CE was balanced as a very different game compared to now

[stuck ruin]

Yeah, but now a whole ton of weapons do that.

[tight remnant]

Effectively in use the plasma pistol variant in an actual game isn't that good though

[balmy tundra]

like, the Pistol functions, it just feels off compared to what we are used to

[tight remnant]

Even if you are okay no EMP, then it mostly doesn't perform great

The single shot is way too weak

Halo 5 did have an amazing plasma pistol honestly

[round laurel]

PP was fine pre-nerf

[tight remnant]

And I wouldn't put CE as the pinnacle of sandbox balance

[soft wharf]

I hope they reboot the series but keep all the important characters maybe then halo will be good

[fossil skiff]

Lol

[tight remnant]

The cindershot does have an issue though

The guided shot doesn't always explode on contact

[balmy tundra]

I like the idea of the scatter plasma pistol, but it should either spread a bit less or maybe track or something

[soft wharf]

It’s the best in the entire series, all of it was fine tuned.

[jade gust]

It's not getting rebooted

[tight remnant]

CE was definitely not fine tuned

[balmy tundra]

The reboot is an idea which doesn't exist

[vocal charm]

GL insntivised direct hits and had a rarely used (for some reason) alt manual detonation with an EMP making it a lethal anti-vehicle weapon and the direct hits with normal grenades were instakills. Cindershot wants you to bounce your shots, chase enemies with the alt fire, and it does very little against heavy or flying vehicles

[tight remnant]

A weapon that dominates the sandbox that was not even intended to be as strong is not fine tuned

[sour gate]

it was a small group making a game about bad guy aliens and cool green guy

[tight remnant]

Grenade launcher in halo 5 was better than in reach

[round laurel]

Reboots are the worst.

Unless the original work is terribad. Halo isn't.

[soft wharf]

The game had careful consideration with the sandbox in question, which is why Halo CE’s sandbox was praised in its time

The AI compliments it really well too

But every weapon basically had a purpose

[tight remnant]

I did enjoy it a lot. I know some of my friends weren't good with it.

[balmy tundra]

oh it totally was. Halo 5 was a master of the sandbox

[vapid siren]

man can starfield drop so i can stop suffering in chat

[sour gate]

no

[fossil skiff]

1 more day

[rare cedar]

Yes. Instead of chief being a master chief petty officer, let’s make him a petty officer third class. See how far he goes as a lower enlisted

[soft wharf]

There’s a reason why Halo CE is still great aside from level design, the enemy AI is fun to shoot at

[tight remnant]

We're talking multiplayer here and effectively a lot of guns were eh in multiplayer

[sour gate]

also did H5 ever have an automatic hydra?

[jade gust]

I'd understand the reboot talk if it was about a franchise like Dino Crisis, which has been dormant for so long that a reboot would make sense, but Halo doesn't need one

[tight remnant]

No but the hydra was so fun in 5

[soft wharf]

The multiplayer was also balanced well

[vocal charm]

No you get to sit with us in a server about a game that gets two new maps and a mode every three months and a new gun every year

[tight remnant]

I liked to lock onto a target, look up in the air, fire the missiles and then the trajectory of the hydra would be like airstrike

homing airstirke

[sour gate]

the hydra grew on me pretty quick. It's fun having a micro missile launcher with target lock

[balmy tundra]

i thought it was automatic

[sour gate]

I'm refering to fully automatic like an assualt rifle

[tight remnant]

Yeah no, a lot of weapons are effectively redundant and underused.

[soft wharf]

Every gun in the sandbox in multiplayer is really good to use

[tight remnant]

The variants have it to where one locks super fast, and another one has EMP missiles

[sour gate]

also the hydra counters almost everything aside from tanky enemies

[soft wharf]

People that say “pistol op” doesn’t understand the weapon at all

[tight remnant]

Echidna And Typhon

[balmy tundra]

i thought it was just hold down automatic just inherently

I swear that was a thing in Halo 5

[tight remnant]

Halo 5 had the best pistol. It's the one that's like, 'perfectly balanced as all things should be'

Or maybe it was..

Still I didn't hold it down

[rare cedar]

The only good weapons in H5 is the CE Pistol and the H2 BR

[soft wharf]

Vengeful Vadam actually talks about how the plasma pistol doesn’t really destroy the sandbox for halo ce multiplayer

[rare cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/kuiil-have-spoken-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-15566834

[vocal charm]

True, but H5’s main mode was Warzone which is where all these weapons got to get used, and many of them were variants of an already existing weapon which made it seem more redundant than it actually were

[soft wharf]

It’s a lot more skill to use than the DMR or BR

Which those grant you pretty much free shots

[tight remnant]

Halo 5 pre-nerf definitely takes the cake

[balmy tundra]

people just used the rarer gun most of the time

[tight remnant]

i do like that in warzone if you enjoy the BR or DMR tends to be more preference

[soft wharf]

The multiplayer doesn’t feel like halo at all

[vocal charm]

Rarity systems shouldn’t be in any halo game

[tight remnant]

Amazing halo multiplayer

[balmy tundra]

even though things like Whiplash (the uncommon railgun) was vastly superior than arclight

[soft wharf]

Doesn’t feel like halo

[modern egret]

Just started halo and i like it

[tight remnant]

It makes sense in 5 but not in infinite

[sour gate]

yayyyyy

[tight remnant]

Well the one part it makes more sense in infinite is say the rare emblems

[sour gate]

which one did you start on?

[vocal charm]

Not on anything. Cosmetics or otherwise

[soft wharf]

Yeah I sure love my loot boxes where I can earn my armor from

[tight remnant]

like unicorn, 152 etc

It is halo, that's it, that's all

[soft wharf]

All being random and by chance, I love dumping money and grinding for hours to get samey looking armor pieces

[vocal charm]

It makes SENSE but it still SUCKS

[soft wharf]

It doesn’t make sense, it’s just released around the time every publisher wanted to get that loot box craze

[tight remnant]

I like being able to earn the stuff, while the option to buy as a shortcut is there

I defintiely have 50+ gameplay days of warzone played

[soft wharf]

Yeah I love spending money on stuff that will give me random items I don’t want!

[sour gate]

unlucky ig

[dreamy stirrup]

are you done?

take it elsewhere, Pale

[tight remnant]

I hope to reach 10k games in infinite played before the next season

[sour gate]

how far are you now?

[vocal charm]

I like being forced to work for my items knowing what I’m gonna get and that that’s the only way to get them

[tight remnant]

Getting close to 9k but still in the 8k

[sour gate]

dang that's impressive

[balmy tundra]

thank you profanity bot

(this wasn't sarcastic)

[dreamy stirrup]

no that was me

lol

[tight remnant]

I was too slow

[balmy tundra]

sorry, thank you Sam

[dreamy stirrup]

i was expecting it lol

[tight remnant]

Unless sam's secretly a bot

[tight remnant]

Like I said earlier, I don't want to be diamond anymore

[cedar turret]

So don’t be a diamond be a cz

[sour gate]

oh you play ranked
i've never touched it since launch 💀

[tight remnant]

What's that

[tight remnant]

No I hardly play ranked. I don't enjoy how it is in infinite much

[sour gate]

rank isn't fun for me
I just like playing for the fun of it

ohh
I'm in gold rn

cadet gold i think

[balmy tundra]

I only vaguely like paid cosmetics because they don't do anything and i can more directly support 343 in the hope we get new games

[cedar turret]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_zirconia

[sour gate]

shiny

[tight remnant]

I rather be onyx

[balmy tundra]

even if I disagree with certain stuff they do like just forgeting about the created, if Halo isn't profitable it will be gone for a long time

[cedar turret]

https://tenor.com/view/pokémon-onix-uses-flash-canon-gif-26327979

[tight remnant]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onyx

[rare cedar]

Onyx got rekt by Pikachu, therefore Pikachu is better.

[modern egret]

What is the highest rank?

[cedar turret]

And pikachu is terrible too

[tight remnant]

Career rank the highest is hero

[rare cedar]

[tight remnant]

In ranked it's onyx

[balmy tundra]

I think Onyx hero

[modern egret]

thank you.

[cedar turret]

It’s only pichu, plusle, and minun as worse electrics

[jade gust]

As the number 1 Pikaclone defender, I will protect those with my life

[cedar turret]

Defend emolga…. I dare you

[balmy tundra]

i like how you didn't go for Pachirisu

[vocal charm]

As someone who’s played infinite since the early launch and plays both casual and seriously the biggest issues are the small sandbox and microtransactions. I bought the campaign and have bought a lot of cosmetics, totaling over 130$. I would not say the campaign is worth 60$. It’s good, but not 60$ good. And the fact that the only way to get most of the customization is to cough up your money SUCKS. The few items you get from the campaign are mediocre or limited and there’s only like 6 of them. I think with the campaign you should get a sort of “Premium Account” that lets you earn credits by playing the game, like if you perform super well you get credits or you rank up (when they eventually add career progression)

[cedar turret]

Lol

[jade gust]

Emolga is a genuinely cool design and being one of the very few electric/flying types at the time helped it stand out

[tight remnant]

i definitely would like a earn credits thing yes

[cedar turret]

Way behind on your copypasta

[balmy tundra]

the basic premise isn't that bad though

[jade gust]

Pachirisu is a world champion that eats meteors, we do not attack them

[tight remnant]

I think one of the issues right now is a coating is effectively 800

[cedar turret]

Oh it’s terrible too, but the above is note worthy

[tight remnant]

Gamepass is great though to play campaign

And starfield..

[balmy tundra]

If i had to hate a pika clone, it'd be togedmaru or whatever the alolan one is called

[vocal charm]

And 80% of older coatings are not cross core

[tight remnant]

Yes, but I mean present store issue

[cedar turret]

Mimikyu

[tight remnant]

Infinite campaign is fun to play coop definitely though

[balmy tundra]

they are supposedly working on that, and given 343 has a track record of taking bad launches and making them better, i believe it'll happen

[balmy tundra]

no, the other one.

[tight remnant]

I think infinite coop campaign might be the best coop campaign

[balmy tundra]

sorry

[cedar turret]

You said the good one

[jade gust]

Mimikyu isn't a Pikaclone, they're not an electric type

THey're more of a Pikachu copycat that everyone loves

[balmy tundra]

the dumb steel ball is the good one?

[cedar turret]

It’s literally wearing a pikachu costume

[tight remnant]

It sucks the campaign team was gutted because there are definitely things that could make the campaign so fun

[vocal charm]

As someone who
A- Doesn’t jump from game to game
B- Has awful internet so installing games take ages
C- Prefers to own my games
D- Doesn’t have much money to hold subscriptions

I HATE the “just get game pass” shtick

[balmy tundra]

Mimikyu should have had multiple disguises not just a pikachu one

[cedar turret]

I kind of wish it’s shiny was a different outfit. Like a clefairy costume or something

[balmy tundra]

that is fair.

we have regional forms now, we could totally afford multiple mimikyu costumes

[tight remnant]

Well my internet is good so its easy for me to just game

I play a lot of halo but I like other games too

[vocal charm]

My average download speed is <10mbps on Xbox

[tight remnant]

Wow

I have like 30x that

[balmy tundra]

wow

i genuinely think thats the worst i have ever heard

[vocal charm]

It’s avg 100kb to 600kb on Steam

[balmy tundra]

i thought my internet was bad, but dang

[vocal charm]

And my average TF2 ping is 60-100 ms

[tight remnant]

titanfall 2?

[vocal charm]

Team Fortress 2

60 ping is a great day for me on most games

[tight remnant]

I think I need to do a bit of husky raid, been doing too much scarr heavies. not my favourite but it has the higher career, until they get BTB fixed up

[round laurel]

60 ms ain't the worst tbh.

[round laurel]

I like the way Overwatch 2 does it.

You get a small amount of credits per week based on how many of the weekly challenges you complete.

[balmy tundra]

That is the first time i have ever seen anyone complement overwatch 2

[fickle drift]

Same

[round laurel]

I love Overwatch 2. Great game.

[tight remnant]

It would be so great if they implemented a support a creator code thing to support content creators, which does incentivize more halo creation thing

[vocal charm]

Extremely Rare OW2 demo

I GOT MY RVB HOODIE LETS GOO

[modern egret]

Wait, does quick play have different ranks then ranked itself?

[raw raptor]

Quick play puts u in a random mode

So no

[modern egret]

Its says a rank near my name just checking in.

[fickle drift]

Does nobody play ranked swat anymore or what’s going on with these matchmaking times?

[round laurel]

You have a career rank, which is ranked up based on your personal score per match. Ranked modes have their own skill leagues.

[modern egret]

Thank you!

[earnest umbra]

not really the other "rank" is really XP

[fickle drift]

Its a shame that a big chunk of the TF2 community actively wants the game dead. Fortunately I also know quite a bit of TF2 fans who also like Overwatch and hate that part of the Team Fortress community.

[stuck ruin]

How do you track a report given in game?

[mint plover]

Prayer.

[stuck ruin]

I think after that match I have lost faith in the booting system. I had a match where a player was betraying me over and over again deliberately without getting kicked and then I kill him once IN SELF DEFENSE and I get a ban.

343 need to get their act together on this.

[wind wharf]

Eyyyy spotlights out!

Love seeing all these works!

[untold epoch]

I mean if you wanna betray people leave the game and rejoin, when they click boot it won’t boot you from game I use it all the time, usually go 8 - 2 with teamm8s

[dreamy stirrup]

don't retaliate

¯_(ツ)_/¯

you don't get booted after one betrayal

[stuck ruin]

I just don't understand how the guy I killed didn't get booted for betraying me seven times in a row.

It's a broken system. Now I can't play again until tomorrow due to the ban.

[untold epoch]

Just Learn the ban algorithm

Halo ce auto boots, halo2 is broken boot and halo3 depends on damage to team mates and/or betrayal amount

[stuck ruin]

Why is it like this allowing more than three betrayals to avoid booting in my mind speaks of a completely broken system. For the record this is in social games.

[untold epoch]

I mean some people learn to abuse it sadly, I was thinking of making a guide for people but I don’t wanna encourage people to abuse

Probs just do what Sam said and ignore, if you wanna retaliate could jusy betray and roll the dice on being kicked

[bold sparrow]

Let them be a meat shield for you.
Lure them into enemy fire and watch them desperately try to survive
Then once they're down finish the enemy off

That's what I used to do. Worked surprisingly well actually

[fickle drift]

Or just let players like me charge in to know where the enemy is

Yeah, I know, I'm not that good at Halo. Then again I don't even play it often.

When you got 9 minutes of work left and you're actually excited to go home and play Halo Infinite.

in halo narrator voice betrayal

Boop 5 boop 4 boop 3 boop 2 boop 1

[dreamy stirrup]

hey Lucas, don't freak out. i'ma borrow your name for a sec 🙂

[fickle drift]

That's okay

Lmao

[dreamy stirrup]

thank you 🙂

was showing someone how boba works

[fickle drift]

Sqweek sqweek

No problem 😊

[dreamy stirrup]

SuperSquid was pretty good lol

[fickle drift]

Ahh I would like that more

Lol

[dreamy stirrup]

you have nickname perms lol

[timber charm]

the only game I play(tho starfield is comin)

[fickle drift]

Like this???

[dreamy stirrup]

lmao

[timber charm]

Squid ward’s cousin?

[fickle drift]

It's not tortellini

[timber charm]

Mb that’s squidmund

[fickle drift]

For me I got a couple MMOs I hop between or was more like 1 now.

I tried to find another good shooter after the rough launch. But I just ended up back here and I'm just going to stick around this time.

[sick gazelle]

So many talented artists got in!

[wind wharf]

Who the hell are you

[sick gazelle]

being the voice at the tail end of the Scarab WIP animation video was a surprise lol

[sick gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/wandavision-vision-i-dont-know-who-i-am-gif-20427866

[wind wharf]

Hahaha

You have no power here crab

[sick gazelle]

embed fail smh

[fallen atlas]

I know this is for halo, but how are people playing starfield since 12pm today? I paid for earlier access as well and gotta wait

[wind wharf]

Did you apply or the server to be partnered here btw?

[sick gazelle]

I did! But if we don't make it in that is fine too 🙂

[dreamy stirrup]

probably press

[wind wharf]

Siiiick

[fallen atlas]

Ah so they got special early access with review copies or something?

[dreamy stirrup]

yes?

that's how their reviews get written 🙂

embargoes were up today

[vapid siren]

yeah they had access for the past what 2 weeks?

[queen remnant]

Yup

[wind wharf]

Im still keeping my expectations tempered till the reviewrs i follow get a copy

[vapid siren]

its a very common thing in games, and media overall

[timber charm]

infinite is pretty damn nice atm

[vapid siren]

the idea is that the second the embargo goes away you can just have your review ready to go so people have as much opportunity to read things and do so in a wave instead of one review at a time

and the guys playing had a few weeks to really digest the game and pick it apart as needed

[wind wharf]

As a student i dont have the luxery of buying every game, so im probably gonna stick with just cyberpunks dlc

[vapid siren]

its on gamepass

[queen remnant]

You can wait for next week with gamepass too if you can

[wind wharf]

Im on pc, and not a fan of the xbox app

No gamepass

[vapid siren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

well we offered the way to do it cost effective

[obsidian wyvern]

you can play starfield on your smart fridge

[wind wharf]

Bethesda moment

[queen remnant]

That's the only way if you want to play it at low cost at the moment

[obsidian wyvern]

I can't remember if fridges have browsers on them

Samsung one specifically

[wind wharf]

Lg ones do iirc

[fierce oriole]

hi

[fickle drift]

Wonder how many times the 343 devs got trash talked everytime they played Halo

I wonder if halo 2 original xbox will be on backwards compatibility

I think so

[steady jolt]

Nope

[fickle drift]

Damn

Not Anniversary

[steady jolt]

The backwards compatibility program has ended now

Team has moved on to other projects, last I heard

[fickle drift]

Ah ok good to know, was wondering if the xbox team and of course the 343 were still working on it. Thankfully I have my original xbox still to play one of my favorites

[hasty zinc]

https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-meditation-zen-meditate-H7kfFDvD9HSYGRbvid

[fickle drift]

Wort wort wort

[vapid siren]

from a practical standpoint you get a bit more out of MCC anyways

the one downside is tickrate altering enemy behaviors so LASO iirc is harder by a good bit, but think of it as an added extra spicy challenge

[wind wharf]

The glorious moistcritikal halo 2 bounty

[fickle drift]

I think someone already claimed it

Yeah someone got that bounty last year

[steady jolt]

Jervailin

Watching that live was something else

[fossil skiff]

One of the best gaming moments of all time

[hasty zinc]

15 minutes

omg

[fossil skiff]

Working late?

[hasty zinc]

home

[fossil skiff]

Nice

[hasty zinc]

8PM is starfield unlock

[fossil skiff]

Oh snap. Can I do it on cloud or do I have to wait a week?

[amber mirage]

Did you get the digital premium edition?

[steady jolt]

I might check Starfield out next week if I have some time

[fossil skiff]

Nope so probably next week then.

[rare cedar]

Everybody say goodbye to Aegis

[fossil skiff]

[steady jolt]

Wednesday is the regular launch, yeah? That would give me time

[rare cedar]

This is going to be Aegis' family after a month of non-stop play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQILkwpHZTo warning: language

[fossil skiff]

Aegis what are you doing first in Starfield

[amber mirage]

The intro

[fossil skiff]

walked into that one

[timber charm]

spending minimum 3hrs in character creation

[faint mantle]

So how long do I have to stay off the internet? Six days?

[hasty zinc]

LMFAO

[carmine horizon]

Question do 343 employees play halo infinite?

Like multiplayer and such

[rare cedar]

yes

[carmine horizon]

So are the husky raid maps actually made by the community cuz it doesn't seem like it

[faint mantle]

They are that well done, eh

[fickle drift]

Pickle juice

[amber mirage]

Kinda in the same boat. I realized it installed the game to my HDD instead of SSD on Xbox.

[fickle drift]

Does one of the 343 like pickles?

[amber mirage]

Probably

[smoky token]

Yes, they are all made in forge

[winter flame]

apparently game pass subscribers who bought the $30 upgrade can't play it...

hopefully they fix that quickly

[rare cedar]

Someone probably forgot to press the button

[winter flame]

i think its the first game pass game that isn't actually day 1 on game pass without a upgrade so it would be pretty dire if they just didnt account for game pass upgrades

[pliant hatch]

I want to be on the hypetrain, but gotta wait until normal launch

[hasty zinc]

gamepass + upgrade is working

[winter flame]

ah good

[hasty zinc]

[smoky token]

me when i

i the when

me when the

the when

[rare cedar]

[fickle drift]

Go back at 1 %

[winter flame]

5 day wait cus broke 😭

[rough sphinx]

RennsReviews' Halo infinite video is up.

[winter flame]

if anyone's on xbox and has a keyboard+mouse hooked up, lmk if it works

[cedar turret]

If you hype yourself up on sugar and caffiene then run circles around a tree the time will go by quicker.

[fickle drift]

Redbull?

[winter flame]

thanks for the advice 😄

[fickle drift]

10000x

[vapid siren]

k

but garfield

[hasty zinc]

goodbye friends

[vapid siren]

i stfg if you share a single thing i will leave nothing but your shoes where you stand

i cant touch it till saturday

now go have fun sport

oh and tell me if theres hotas support

[vapid siren]

actually that's the one thing anyone can share with me about starfield

[cedar turret]

||calamari is best served lukewarm with ketchup for dipping.||

[winter flame]

So Long, and thanks for all the fish

[vapid siren]

is there flight stick support

[faint mantle]

Give me one good reason not to press Enter

[vapid siren]

he needs to tell me if i can use my flight stick

[hasty zinc]

I can't give you one. Do it.

[vapid siren]

that question has been unanswered for like forever

everyone trying to make their spaceships this weekend

[calm fiber]

I'm sorry @faint mantle. I'm afraid I can't let you do that.

[smoky token]

So true my good fellow.

[sand nest]

I Really Wish Halo Infinite Had A V.I.P. Game Mode. Limited Lives, One V.I.P. On A Team With Pistol Only & With Enhanced Shield To Be Escorted By Team To Extraction Area. But Most Of Infinite Maps Are Way Too Small & Symmetrical

[vapid siren]

you too

answer if theres hotas support

im not asking im telling

[cedar turret]

You've got a forge, make it.

[winter flame]

i wonder if IGN just gave the game a 7/10 so everyone would talk about IGN again

[vapid siren]

refunding

idc

[smoky token]

it'll take two days for mods to start supporting it

guarantee

[cedar turret]

I'll admit a bit of schadenfreude when everybody gets bored of this game on Thursday.

[winter flame]

i have a flight stick for my game cube not even kidding. i wonder if a adapter would make it work on pc

[winter flame]

the IGN guy basically said you need to get through the first 10 hours for it to get interesting

[winter flame]

i actually trust his review i just think the score was harsh

[earnest umbra]

10 hours is a lot

[winter flame]

sort of the same deal with a lot of open world games though

isnt RDR2 kinda similar?

maybe not 10 hours thoo

[earnest umbra]

🤷‍♂️

[vapid siren]

well hopefully the keyboard flying is good

... right

[earnest umbra]

havn't seen anyone complain about it

[haughty wraith]

I know i'm the millionth person to say this but a reboot would be a horrible idea

[molten pelican]

lol just rumors now

[molten pelican]

yehp

[molten pelican]

its been lovely knowing you aegisfate, il see you in 20 years

[spare oak]

When will the next halo game come out

[vapid siren]

tfw halo gamers mald about queue times taking too long

meanwhile CS

[earnest umbra]

CS queue times are super long which makes no sense

must be a ton of bot accounts farming drops or something

[vapid siren]

its just the game actually trying to ensure good quality matches lol

like comp games SHOULD

[earnest umbra]

feels like it should be more than 2400 players searching in a game with more than a million daily players at any given point

[winter flame]

truth is most good players should be playing ranked not social halo, but i also cant blame people for not. imo ranked hasn't been enough of a priority since Infinite's launch

[earnest umbra]

CS matchmaking also sucks TBH i have under 900 hours played on it but theres plenty of BS

[winter flame]

i cant say for definite but i imagine ranked infinite would be in a better place today if it didnt take so long for region matchmaking, stack-adjusted SBMM, and general balance changes

[earnest umbra]

players that solo queue get screwed in MM TBH in pretty much any game

[winter flame]

they only added stack-adjusted SBMM a few months ago. it was assumed to be in the game since launch but claified in a blog recently it wasnt

[smoky token]

is armoured core on game pass

[earnest umbra]

what

[winter flame]

i got u

tmw you mistake discord for google 😄

[lost ridge]

does this look good so far?

[winter flame]

dunno what it is so not clicking it

[lost ridge]

its a wip

[rare cedar]

use #1076327824924872755

[lost ridge]

its a drawing

[lost ridge]

ok

[winter flame]

if you were replying to me i mean where the sbmm takes into account players being in a stack

rather then just their individual skill

[spare oak]

I wish halo was as good as it used to be. Back when halo was in its prime. It still good and I will keep playing it but it just doesn’t hit the same

[fickle drift]

Yeah but good luck finding anything else even close.
Closest thing I've found was Destiny 2 for a while and well that game's kind of spoken for itself lately.

[winter flame]

sometimes its you not the game

I remember loving MCC for a good few months in around 2018ish but then i burned out hard

[bold sparrow]

More often than not this is the case

[quartz ridge]

Good in what way?

[fickle drift]

When it wasn’t Halo 5.

[spare oak]

Yea

[quartz ridge]

Not following. When it was barebones with sketchy netcode?

[fickle drift]

Yes.

[quartz ridge]

Lol

[modern egret]

What is the best gun in halo

[tight remnant]

Nornfang?

[civic walrus]

halo ce’s magnum

[fickle drift]

^this

Also yes before anyone possibly asks yes I did leave for a bit, not really anything to worry about just a weird bad impulse of mine when it comes to certain discord servers.

I blame it on my severe ADHD

[viral dune]

Automag

[winter flame]

Best guns are the gauss cannon or MAC cannon 😄

[modern egret]

I cant belive ive never played this hgame

its so much fun

[smoky token]

ikr

[modern egret]

one of my teachers recommended it accutaly

[rare cedar]

Nice!

[modern egret]

thank him

[visual oasis]

hey what all affects score bc i'm trying to get par score on ce level 2 and it's not adding up

[fickle drift]

I recall that my 9th Grade biology teacher really liked Halo but I didn't really get why until I watched Halo 2 Anniversary's cutscenes in 2018/2019, It was then that I understood.

[rare cedar]

[fickle drift]

If it weren't for him I'd probably still ignore Halo like some happy go lucky guy who ignores a paranoid guy thats telling him "THE END IS NEAR!!!" and the paranoid guy ends up being right.

actually I dunno if thats a good analogy, eh whatever I need sleep

[sinful laurel]

Halo devs here me out

but you go full starfield in terms of spaceships and the tech and implement it with halo what would be cool for the series might be a reboot or pull away from masterchief and show the progression of war and how the tech advanced

maybe do some new characters either beginning of spartan program or some forward unto dawn academy cadets would be cool and then show the devastation of war the covenant glassing planets and all that

maybe do this for the tv series or games but please scrap season 1 tv series and start over with a better idea the writing wasnt good

[lone jacinth]

The halo 2 ODST design was actually really cool

[hardy monolith]

1. I think a reboot is a terrible idea

2. I missed that you could have ODST armor so please add ODST armor

3. Why not just make another ODST game the fans have been asking for another for years

[forest lagoon]

There is no reboot

[vapid siren]

https://tenor.com/view/no-capes-gif-8052678

[sinful laurel]

maybe another spartans perspective who was in the spartan program as 117 and see events from his eyes maybe hes master chiefs best friend idk something cool

another odst game would be cool doesnt have to be bucky since he became a spartan

[forest lagoon]

I want to see more with Din

[sinful laurel]

whos din

[vapid siren]

din-ner with your mom

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-swag-yeah-oh-chill-gif-3428450

[sinful laurel]

bring me back leftovers

[vapid siren]

no

[sinful laurel]

D:

[quaint yarrow]

do people still play mcc competitive? me and my friend tried HCE hardcore doubles + halo reach invasion, no games

trying to do the dang gold challenges

[sinful laurel]

mcc pops off some times

[hardy monolith]

I just want something related to the ODST's

[forest lagoon]

My bad, I meant Dinh

[graceful cipher]

...

[sinful laurel]

din jarin?

[forest lagoon]

no

This guy

[quaint yarrow]

so no one knows what competitive playlists are popping for MCC?

[sinful laurel]

oh yea the season intel cinematics are pretty sweet

[hardy monolith]

Well the multiplayer menu shows din

[jaunty yoke]

Halo won't be rebooted

People get way too paranoid over one single idea

[sinful laurel]

i just want halo to be the best it can be

when i think halo i think

epic space oddyssey

[jaunty yoke]

I think everything has a peak

And I think you can't peak twice

And I think Halo peaked at Halo 3

[sinful laurel]

i think judging things on peak is terrible and stifles writing good stories because a good story will always shine

imagine halo takes 10 years to do straight developing and comes back and slaps the game awards in the face it would be sick

[civic walrus]

the only reason you can’t peak twice is because when you peak the second time that means that the first peak wasn’t actually where it peaked

[jaunty yoke]

It will be the ideal scenario but it can't happen

Neither Microsoft, nor Sony or Nintendo would ever allow a game to take that long to develop, it would simply be too much money

[quartz ridge]

Prime 4

[jaunty yoke]

It looks like it

But no, Prime 4 simply doesn't exist

[quartz ridge]

It exists alright

[smoky token]

https://reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/ruwb5EgK7M

@hasty zinc

[sinful laurel]

mods already out crazy

[smoky token]

according to the mod maker it used the same implementation as Elden Ring and Jedi Survivor so he could reuse 95% of the code from both of those

just had to change some UI stuff around afaik

[candid solar]

I'd rather a perspective of a Spartan IV due to it being a more interesting time period in terms of what's going on in the background.

And because Chief and the other IIs are boring and overtreaded.

Plus you could get some of that goofy "We wan ODST" everyone always seems to squawk about, and have the cake of having your awesome supersoldier.

... Funny enough, I think CoD Black Ops 3 of all games is the closest to that concept in any game we'll ever get.

Because you start as some generic special forces dude then get turned into a posthuman one-man wrecking crew.

Ignoring the fact you actually canonically died someone where around Step 2, where you got ripped to pieces by an unfeeling robot

[quartz ridge]

When Joseph Staten said that Master Chief is the least interesting character, but people still want stories with Chief will always be wild to me

[candid solar]

You're kidding me. Staten said that?

[quartz ridge]

Said it in a podcast

[candid solar]

Damn, new respect for the guy gained.

[sinful laurel]

chief has depth in character thanks to halo 4

[candid solar]

That's charitable.

[quartz ridge]

One of the reasons arbiter was a protagonist in H2

[winter flame]

hopefully an fov adjustment mod isn't too far out. really strange omission

[candid solar]

Seriously though, you get Spartans doing way more things and specialized in way wilder tasks. There's a ton of leeway in the postwar era. Hell, an FPS adaptation of Halo Spartan Assault would be great.

[civic walrus]

I’d like to see a game that takes place during the years between halo 3 and 4, possibly showing the beginnings of the Spartan IV program

[jaunty yoke]

Are the people obssesed with framerate and DLSS and ultra realistic graphics and whatever it is Nvidia does, absolute nerds?

[winter flame]

wish XGS would just make fov adjustment and console kbm a minimum standard, not just in competitive games like Halo

[sinful laurel]

i think theres a lot to be explored in the covenant vs humans war

[candid solar]

Not really as much as people think.

It's a long war of humanity continually getting curb stomped one fight after another without much a difference between battles.

[civic walrus]

ooh, and maybe even building up to the Covenant’s resurgence in halo 4!

[candid solar]

The most interesting period is maybe Harvest's reclaimation or the battle of Mars.

[winter flame]

DLSS 2 is magic, I say this as someone with an AMD card and Series X. This mod is really cool for those who want it

[candid solar]

Which, apparently, is one of the things that earned Spartan Thorne his Spartan Corps recommendation.

The battle of Mars, I mean.

[jaunty yoke]

Important stories they need to cover as games:
-The first contact with the Covenant in Harvest with sgt. Johnson as the protagonist
-The Forerunner-Flood war that led to the creation of the rings
-A game set during the 6 months between the Infinite prologue and timeskip
-An arbiter prequel that shows what he did for the Covenant during his time as an Elite Zealot

[candid solar]

Good lord no to the first.

[quaint yarrow]

wow no one plays halo reach or combat evolved big team battle???

[candid solar]

We do not need another damn Halo Reach.

[sinful laurel]

i really like forward unto dawn movie and halo legends i want them somehow in the games

[jaunty yoke]

I just want sgt. Johnson back you know

[candid solar]

Be happy with the time you had.

Not like the third game was kind to him.

[jaunty yoke]

One sucks and the other one is broken

[civic walrus]

it’s not like they’re gonna kill off the entire main cast this time

[candid solar]

It's covering an already well covered scenario.

[winter flame]

as boring as it might seem, Halo needs to finally have a sequel that builds on the story of the previous game. AKA Halo Infinite Act 2. I like the idea of spin offs as much as anyone but it will be a huge mistake for the next Halo campaign not to be a direct sequel to Infinite

[sinful laurel]

you guys see halofollower making a halo fan movie with noble 6 and chief. lowkey excited to see how it turns out

[candid solar]

Ugh.

Really? That premise alone sounds awful.

[quartz ridge]

We need a better retelling on halo reach with Thel

[jaunty yoke]

I also like the book that narrates what the Chief did immediately after destroying ring 04, which included rescuing Johnson and some marines, infiltrating a Covenant cruiser, stealing it and use it to go back to UNSC territory

[candid solar]

The Flood is good so long as you don't look too closely at how utterly braindead the Covenant is in that book.

[sinful laurel]

the books are great

[candid solar]

Because... Whew, it's really bad, even by Halo tactics standards.

[jaunty yoke]

A lot of very cool stories from the books could be adapted into games

[candid solar]

And I'd rather precisely 0 of them do.

[jaunty yoke]

Imagine a horror game that adapts the Mona Lisa story with the Flood...

[candid solar]

No thanks, I'd rather not vomit in my mouth at the lack of creative exploration.

[sinful laurel]

what about a destiny v halo mmo might be interesting

[jaunty yoke]

No

[quartz ridge]

Fans will get confused because the books have a different take on the characters

[jaunty yoke]

A Halo MMO could work, but Halo is enough of a universe to work by itself, no crossovers

[candid solar]

Ensamble was working on a Halo MMO.

[jaunty yoke]

Yep

[candid solar]

Its designs were... Inspired, to say the least.

And people thought the Halo 4 Grunts were bad.

[jaunty yoke]

I actually dislike Microsoft's treatment to Ensemble
They had a lot of projects and unique ideas, they were forced to make Halo Wars, and then got executed

[quartz ridge]

Halo 4 grunts aren’t Bungie inspired so auto L

[sinful laurel]

halo wars cutscenes go hard

[smoky token]

there’s a difference between framerate obsession and wanting to play at more than 30 FPS :p

[candid solar]

I actually wouldn't mind a flood focused FPS so long as it was about a Spartan IV containment unit.

[jaunty yoke]

We weren't obsesed with framerate back in the 360 days

[candid solar]

Or something akin to that 40K Grey Knights game that came out a few months back.

[quartz ridge]

I don’t ever want to see the flood again

[civic walrus]

weren’t the flood all killed at the end of halo 3, which happens before Spartan IV’s were even a thing?

[candid solar]

For me it's very, very conditional. Most flood related concepts are too huge and diminish the threat they had in the OT in favor of cheap scales now.

[sinful laurel]

even that premise a flood mission with spartans going to contain say on a planet shipwreck or space ship would be such a good movie

[candid solar]

Nope. There's dedicated Spartan IV Flood Containment Units.

[jaunty yoke]

I'd like to see the Flood return under once condition
The original trilogy only had combat forms infected by an infection form, the Halo 4 Flood Spartans were infected by spores, which allowed the body to grow a Flood face and teeth, if we get more spore-infected flood forms, then I'll take it
They just look scarier

[candid solar]

Buck explicitly mentions them in one of the Blood novels he was the main character of. They're considered elite even by Spartan standards and are volunteer-only outfits that specialize in, well, fighting through flood hives for a variety of reasons, typically using a mix of cutting edge-top-of-the-line equipment.

[quaint yarrow]

why is my platform restrictions set to to yes on big team battle??

[candid solar]

Think Fireteams of Spartan IVs who basically look at The Library on SLASO and think it's child's play.

Basically, the 'head' of the flood is cut off, but like the Covenant, the UNSC is still dealing with odd flood hives here and there like on Installation 05, typically in long-forgotten Forerunner facilities.

[quartz ridge]

If the flood were to return, I would want it to be set to be around the precursor era

[jaunty yoke]

Now that I think about it, it's a miracle the Arbiter didn't get infected in the games since, unlike Master Chief, he has his face and nose exposed to the outside, in complete danger of an infection form or spores getting to him easier

[candid solar]

There's... A lot of theories about that. I personally think the teleportation theory is most accurate.

[sinful laurel]

arbitur was just that badass

[fossil skiff]

I saw a Reddit post about that the other day. Some theories on how that could have worked

[jaunty yoke]

They also gave a lore explanation about Grunts and Jackals not being infected because they don't have enough C A L C I U M for the Flood to bother, but idk, they seem pretty susceptible to me

[candid solar]

That was made bogus by Halo Wars anyways.

[civic walrus]

the whole thing with the arbiters is that they’re supposed to die serving the Covenant, but Thel’s story is that he’s skilled enough to outlive what he was meant to die for

[quartz ridge]

Flood infected halo 2 Sniper Jackals

[jaunty yoke]

OH YES

[candid solar]

I think Thel's honestly more lucky, hee hee hee, than skilled.

[coarse sun]

I didnt even realize starfield was coming to xbox game pass this is awesome

[jaunty yoke]

Some Flood forms can actually use sniper rifles on High Charity, it can get pretty sad if they kill you

[candid solar]

Like, he lucked out when Refum'ee tried to kill him, ironically.

[quartz ridge]

Nothing annoyed me more than the flood that carried rockets

[fossil skiff]

One does not simply survive the rocket flood around the corner on two betrayals the first time around.

[jaunty yoke]

Halo CE rocket Flood are the bane of The Library and Two Betrayals speedrunners

[candid solar]

Or when Gravemind more or less chose not to infect him, or when Johnson decided to dip and steal the Scarab the moment Arbiter gave him an inch.

[faint mantle]

Where my repulsor homies at

[candid solar]

repulsor jumping over the neighbor's fence for hijinks.

(I am going to steal their wifi)

[jaunty yoke]

The repulsor sure would have been useful in The Library

[candid solar]

There's a repulsor in Halo CE.

[quartz ridge]

No wait, those flood exploding guys on the warthog run in 3

[candid solar]

It's called 12 shots of 8 gauge buckshot.

Applied ad nauseam.

[jaunty yoke]

It would be a really cool mod actually
Adding Infinite's equipment to the previous games, see how they work

[balmy tundra]

There was one for grappleshot in CE

[fossil skiff]

AOTCR would become super easy with a grapple

[civic walrus]

I need to stop getting myself repulsed off a cliff

[candid solar]

Halo 5 with Halo Infinite abilities (And not stopping your damn shield recharge when you sprint) would've been goated tbh

[candid solar]

Just say no. They legally cannot repulse you to your death if you say no.

[jaunty yoke]

Grappleshot is far superior to the jetpack

[balmy tundra]

That’s a thing in 5?

[jaunty yoke]

In the multiplayer yes

[candid solar]

It is my single biggest issue with the entire game.

[quartz ridge]

I like that the shield didn’t recharge in 5 when you sprint

[jaunty yoke]

They "balanced" sprint in Halo 5's multiplayer by not recharging your shilelds while sprinting

[quartz ridge]

But then again, I play competitive

[balmy tundra]

It’s really bad when you realize it’s the worst thing possible in any warzone mode

It sort of works in arena, but it makes big maps a pain

[candid solar]

It's single handedly the worst mechanic in 5 because it was basically added due to people having skill issues regarding securing kills.

[jaunty yoke]

It worked for Arena because you ran quite fast, but on Warzone it was a nightmare to run unshielded in pretty big maps

[quartz ridge]

There should’ve been an option for casual modes

[tight remnant]

You can get a thing for that, upgraded thrusters thing i think

[candid solar]

Yeah... In warzone.

[balmy tundra]

At like req level 4

Of 9

[jaunty yoke]

Wasn't there a perk that made vehicles immune to plasma pistol stuns

[tight remnant]

i like it tbh

[balmy tundra]

(Technically items only went up to 8, but the max level was 9)

[quartz ridge]

Yes and it was glorious

[candid solar]

And only Warzone, which I hated playing unless it was firefight. Not because I thought it was "P2W" or whatever people keep saying, but because it basically just felt like Halo Battlefield to me, which I learned I didn't like in short order.

[balmy tundra]

Non firefight is horrifying to me

[candid solar]

Granted, WZFF didn't have BF4's stupid little birds or BF1's stupid mortar trucks.

So it had that going for it.

[sinful laurel]

call of duty main menu is so cringe

[jaunty yoke]

I would love Halo on Battlefield levels of big scale, but Warzone is not exactly what I had in mind

[quartz ridge]

Warzone assault and mythic warzone ff was great

[balmy tundra]

The maps needed more variety in the main structures tbh

[fossil skiff]

Mythic, true test of legends (and how many blueberries are in your lobby)

Hell, even a loss on mythic will give you decent xp

[quartz ridge]

I had someone complain that mythic warzone ff was cheap because the enemies didn’t die fast enough

[balmy tundra]

I always disliked how they just reused the main base asset, but I understand why that happened

[candid solar]

I dunno. I think it's just, if I want huge battles wooooo in my Halo, I'd rather have it killing aliens, not human players cosplaying Spartans.

[jaunty yoke]

Picture this

[quartz ridge]

Like invasion?

[candid solar]

No, I mean AI aliens, a'la Firefight or Spartan Ops.

[quartz ridge]

Oh

[candid solar]

Though I do like Invasion.

[jaunty yoke]

Invasion 2.0
Gigantic BTB map with AI enemies
Elite team objective: secure an activation index, get it to the control room and activate the ring
Spartan team objective: prevent the firing from happening

[balmy tundra]

16 player firefight sounds epic

[candid solar]

I'd like it more if the Covenant side wasn't almost always at a hilariously colossal disadvantage.

[balmy tundra]

Were they?

[jaunty yoke]

There's something that gives me an idea

[quartz ridge]

I could see halo doing a breakthrough or grand operations gamemode like battlefield

[balmy tundra]

I can’t remember the last time I could play invasion

[candid solar]

Typically, their vehicles had unprotected spawns so Spartan Players would frequently camp said spawns. They also universally had worse anti-vehicle and anti-air weapons, so a Banshee getting stolen from the, again, unprotected, Elite spawn was basically a death knell to the Elite side's ability to fight.

[balmy tundra]

The only thing I remember is that elites had the dodge roll class

[jaunty yoke]

In Reach Firefight, if you played as an Elite you would be on the Covenant's side, so Spartans and Marines were enemies to you
What if you made Firefight again like that, and have the Elite player be like a boss fight to the Spartan players

[balmy tundra]

Imagine if the elite player was just terrible though

[fossil skiff]

Yes, let me assassinate Chak Lok with a steel chair WWE style

[candid solar]

And Elites, unlike Spartans, couldn't spawn with a DMR and only usually had a Fuel Rod Gun at best to deal with the Banshee, which means that they effectively had nothing to use against the Banshee aside from hoping the pilot wasn't an unhinged power player.

[balmy tundra]

Was the dmr that good against banshees?

[candid solar]

Unlike the Needle Rifle, yes.

It could actually chip it down waaaaay faster.

[balmy tundra]

Huh

[jaunty yoke]

Yeah, loadouts in Reach were not good
I'm not happy that Halo 4 brought them back but at least they were customizable that time around

[candid solar]

The Needle Rifle's bounces were not just for effect. They did less damage too.

[quartz ridge]

I liked the loadouts

[balmy tundra]

Now that I think about it, why is halo wars the only time needles are considered good against a vehicle?

[candid solar]

Because the needles are as big as a Spartan.

[balmy tundra]

Specifically aircraft, but it’s odd

[fossil skiff]

Halo 4’s loadout system may have been pain in multiplayer but my god is it a lifesaver in Spartan ops right now

[quartz ridge]

Even armor lock

[candid solar]

It's a lot harder to drive a plane when all the control surfaces are perforated by 9 foot long spikes that explode.

[jaunty yoke]

Because Halo Wars has a rock-paper-scissor combat system, and infantry units are strong against aerial units

[candid solar]

As for why we never see heavy Needles in games, I have no idea, but they're apparently not uncommon in Covenant armaments.

[balmy tundra]

It’s a shame the unsc didn’t use planes in that game

[candid solar]

No go away

[fossil skiff]

Uh.

[candid solar]

Delete that

Please

[fossil skiff]

This isn’t even the channel for that to begin with

[balmy tundra]

Which is weird, the 2022 encyclopedia implies that subanese crystal weapons are supposed to be rare to curtail the power of the sangheli

[jaunty yoke]

I would help you but resetting the numbers on the list with every group confuses me

[jagged rivet]

which one is the correct channel?

[candid solar]

Who the hell knows, really.

[jaunty yoke]

Try #halo-discussion

[candid solar]

Halo lore is a bit whack at times.

[balmy tundra]

As is any large enough series

[jaunty yoke]

The last precursor made a human commit suicide just by talking to them
God knows what he said to 'em

[balmy tundra]

“Your Jordan’s are fake”

Dies

[candid solar]

A "Yo mama so _______" joke

[quartz ridge]

Bungie should’ve been more open to adding some book lore to their games

[candid solar]

Bungie should've done a lot of things.

[jaunty yoke]

And whatever the Halo 3 terminals are about
No seriously, I don't understand them

[quartz ridge]

Bungie, bungied

[keen badge]

wow

Thought I could express some stuff

[candid solar]

Basically, it's Mendicant Bias showing Master Chief the story of the final months of the Forerunner Flood war, including communiques between the Librarian and her Husband's clone.

[jaunty yoke]

Amazing

[faint mantle]

You can make a post at #1039633978841374720.

[keen badge]

My bad guys I really messed up. I apologize.

[tight remnant]

? They come from Suban

[balmy tundra]

And everyone hates them because we have people fighting over a change in story direction that happened over a decade ago

[jaunty yoke]

I wish we had got to see Bungie's version of the Librarian and Didact besides simple text

[balmy tundra]

Yeah, that’s why I said subanese. Suban is one of sanghelios’ moons

[quartz ridge]

That would interrupt CHEEF screen time

[candid solar]

Amusingly, that was mostly the then-fledgling 343i who actually handled that writing. Bungie was just... Weird, at the time.

At least, allegedly.

[jaunty yoke]

Yeah, I'm aware of the admittedly dumb debate

[candid solar]

It's really not even that big of a deal. It's not like Bungie cared enough to say no.

[tight remnant]

All the supply comes from Suban basically

[balmy tundra]

They basically dropped the plot thread after halo 3

[candid solar]

And Marty only piped up because someone asks him and he's a sycophant towards anyone who gives him a smidgen of attention.

[tight remnant]

343 came after halo 3

[quartz ridge]

ze blood of suban!

[tight remnant]

sometime in 2007 I don't know when but they did not do terminals

[balmy tundra]

It only gets a direct mention once in a book that was written before the terminals

At least, as far as we know anyway

[jaunty yoke]

I would think they even dropped the idea back in Halo 2
In the original script the Arbiter was supposed to open a Forerunner coffin only to find a human skeleton
But the cutscene was never made, and therefore, can't be considered canon

[candid solar]

Some of their future staff did work on them, last I checked, and the actual company itself opened before 3's release date. I'm comfortable saying a fledgling form of them predating the actual 343i worked on them.

[balmy tundra]

I was covering my bases in case anyone wanted to bring up contact harvest

[tight remnant]

Frankie. As far as I know we only got after halo 3 and during 2007

[balmy tundra]

Which was probably written before anyone had finalized a terminal given how hectic halo development under bungie was

[jaunty yoke]

Didn't 343 help to make Halo 3's DLC maps

[tight remnant]

halo reach

[quartz ridge]

That was reach

[jaunty yoke]

I see

[quartz ridge]

Certain affinity I believe helped 3

[tight remnant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGdzihZV-IQ

[candid solar]

I could be stretching the events a bit for my own argumenative purposes mixed with some understanding being a bit borked. That's my bad if so.

[jaunty yoke]

Certain Affinity is almost like a second developer for Halo
They are part of the story no doubt

[tight remnant]

Certain Affinity you mean?

[quartz ridge]

Not enough CHEEF in their games, so CA is disqualified

[jaunty yoke]

Yes, Certain Affinity

Don't know why I got them mixed up

[candid solar]

Put cheebf in eberything caus he dah bestest and he shoot teh aliens and get teh bloo lady (then purple then bloo)

[quartz ridge]

They made halo wars 2

[tight remnant]

Creative Assembley did halo wars 2

the halo legends music is so good

why cant 343 give us more cool projects like halo legends and

[quartz ridge]

Ensemble made hw1

[candid solar]

NO NO Do NOT want Lobck, he's gross and icky

[jaunty yoke]

Also, 8 year old stupid me thought you could unlock Arbiter's armor in Halo 3 multiplayer 😂

[fossil skiff]

Headhunters

[tight remnant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz9WlRb51R4

and all of these

[quartz ridge]

Because halo legends takes away CHEEF screen time

[tight remnant]

and they were free!

[balmy tundra]

Locke’ one sin was being in a dumb movie thing

[jaunty yoke]

Memes aside

[candid solar]

"I can't believe Halo 4 made Marine medics wear white and red instead of something more military"
Meanwhile Halo Evolutions:

[jaunty yoke]

I don't think it's up to debate if I say Arbiter is a way better protagonist than Chief

[balmy tundra]

Only reason I dislike him is how messed up halo insider or whatever it was

And I couldn’t get the nightfall armor

[candid solar]

... That's a weird reason to dislike Locke.

[tight remnant]

at least we got the cool audiobook stories recently

[quartz ridge]

He got more backstory

[tight remnant]

a very weird one