general-chat

[fickle drift]

the pizza goldfish tho 😩

[tight remnant]

Yum yum

[sour gate]

never tried the other flavors but i eat original goldfish with peanut butter

[fickle drift]

peanut butter???

Is it good?

[wild sleet]

Never had cheeseitz, don’t think we have them here

[sour gate]

as a kid I always thought the multi colored goldfish tasted different but it was purely visual

[sour gate]

yeah it's pretty good
plus the size of them make it easy to dip with

[fickle drift]

Nah I swear they taste different

the color ones

[fickle drift]

I agree.

the orange ones taste dif

And the green ones

[wild sleet]

Im just eating Grain Waves

[fickle drift]

What are they

[sour gate]

ive...never heard of those

but they sound good

[fickle drift]

have any of u ever seen the Big Bang theory

[sour gate]

reminded me of wheat thins

[wild sleet]

They’re whole grain chips, Sour Cream & Chives flavoured, they’re not that bad

[hasty zinc]

watched all 12 seasons twice now

just finished last weekend

[fickle drift]

Nicee I’m almost on season 6

[wild sleet]

Loved Big Bang Theory cause Halo Night

[fickle drift]

I watched 5 seasons in 2 weeks then stopped watching for like 7 months

[wild sleet]

Stayed cause it’s a good series

[fickle drift]

Same that was my fav scene

Who’s your favorite chatecter

Mines Sheldon or Howard

[tight remnant]

That show never appealed to me

[wild sleet]

Definitely Howard, his character came off funny to me

[fickle drift]

same

My favorite games right now are halo and Overwatch

[wild sleet]

Favourites for me are Halo, Deadspace, Assassins Creed & Titanfall

[fickle drift]

I just ate moldy food by accident

[fickle drift]

W Fr

[plain osprey]

halo is the best franchise

[fickle drift]

Fr it’s been going on for so long

And still a lot of people play it

[dreamy gale]

No witcher or Prince of Persia?

[fickle drift]

I haven’t played Witcher yet

[dreamy gale]

masterpiece ⭐

[fickle drift]

I’m playin it before I watch the series

[dreamy gale]

better choice

[wild sleet]

Never played them but I heard they’re great games

[fickle drift]

Henry cavil looks perfect for the role

[smoky token]

I recommend watching the series first, the games take place long after the books (which the show itself is supposedly based off)

[dreamy gale]

Damn man seems like nobody remembers Prince of Persia 😔

[fickle drift]

Ohhh

Thank you =>

[smoky token]

In fact I would actually read the books instead on account of netflix messing up the book series

[dreamy gale]

They were the pinnacle of PC gaming here

[fickle drift]

Okay

[wild sleet]

Yeah feel bad for Henry on how Netflix screwed up, he deserves better

[fickle drift]

I can’t wait to play elden rings my friend has to finish books before so I’m waiting for him to finish before I buy it

[neon halo]

[fickle drift]

?

[wild sleet]

Elden Ring is not my type of game but it definitely earned GOTY

[fickle drift]

I like hard games

[neon halo]

Good games aren’t your type of game?

[robust narwhal]

Man, season 2 of the Halo show better make up for the first though I don’t think anything can

[fickle drift]

I haven’t watched it yet but I’m so excited too =>

[robust narwhal]

I’d watch the first and last episodes

But only for the fight scenes

[neon halo]

That’s my Chief

[fickle drift]

I have nothing to do ever so I’ll probably end up watching the whole thing

[robust narwhal]

Let’s not remember the nudity

[wild sleet]

Jimmy Rings

[robust narwhal]

Master Cheeks, if you will

[fickle drift]

oh

[robust narwhal]

Yeah

[pliant hatch]

striker pistol is my favorite

[fickle drift]

What is it on

[balmy tundra]

No true spartan leaves the mjolnir unless you are doing maintenance or an upgrade to your old mjolnir

[robust narwhal]

Paramount +

[fickle drift]

Oki

[wild sleet]

You can buy it on dvd as well

I was going to but I rather save my sanity

[wild sleet]

Longshot Assault Rifle is my favourite

[fickle drift]

I’m sick

So I’m gonna sleep now

[wild sleet]

I need to get back to work, 2 more Hours & I can go home & play some Halo

[fickle drift]

W

Motivating Fr

I’m starting the show rn

[pliant hatch]

playing regular fiesta is like eating stale doritos now.

[wild sleet]

That’s how it feels to drive a Ford F50

[sudden light]

[wild sleet]

1 hour left, so tired cleaning courthouses just want to go home & play Halo 😩

[thorny bay]

How does this new forum work? I don't understand how to find things here. Was this thing designed by monkeys?

[rare cedar]

[smoky token]

yea

it was designed by monkeys

i hate the discord forum system

[little mica]

Is there a way to reduce ping in Halo multiplayer if you're far away from the server? Or make it so you only get matchmakings in your region without purposefully browsing for custom games?

[thorny bay]

I've played Halo for over 20 years, since the time when it was called Marathon. I've never had a positive k/d, but I also don't die in my dreams.

[thorny bay]

Gonna need a little more than that, pal.

[dry frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/amused-darth-vader-star-wars-lack-of-faith-gif-12273206

[pearl laurel]

Yo chat 💬 I think it would be cool if they made a flood-infection game mode

[cedar turret]

They did, It was in halo 4

[dry frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-hello-there-hello-obi-wan-kenobi-gif-13903117

https://tenor.com/view/new-year-obi-wan-gif-19779420

Hello there soartans

[neat hill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anNyn0l7bq8
Horse sounds

[obsidian solar]

Let's try this again, anyone else in scouts here?

[rare cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/russel-scouts-honor-gif-9806586

I am not

[fickle drift]

Wait. The army isn’t scouts with guns?

[rare cedar]

[golden siren]

did viktor reznov kill soap mctavish?

[rancid meadow]

What’s the difference between spartan 2s and spartan 3s?

[fickle drift]

The number.

(I have no idea)

[halcyon vale]

3s were made to be cheaper to produce and more expendable

but theyre not as strong as a result

[winter flame]

Afaik the augmentation is just more refined and they were less picky about candidates because they most just got SPI armour which is cheaper. With MJOLNIR they are not really very different.

Candidates were orphans iirc

[halcyon vale]

oh i didnt know that

thought they got weaker augmentations or something

i forgot about reach tho

with spartan 3s in mjolnir being about the same

[winter flame]

Nah they basically just gave them cheaper armour because less children were dying from the augmentation process so they didn’t need to select ideal characteristics

[halcyon vale]

ah

[pearl laurel]

Halo guys

[halcyon vale]

halo

[winter flame]

It’s otherwise the same and really the psychological of the children and the armour they were given that makes them less capable

[halcyon vale]

that makes sense

[winter flame]

So yeah the only S3s we play as are basically the best of that programme and thus probably just as good as S2s

[rare cedar]

Hint why Jorge is a Chad compared to the rest of Noble Team.

Jorge = Spartan 2
Noble Team & 6 = Spartan 3

[viral dune]

Lol, hi

[near tree]

And cuz he sacrificed himself thinking he was saving Reach, only for it to be 100% pointless

[rare cedar]

Nobody knew the outcome

Everyone sacrificed themselves in the hopes of saving reach

Except Kat

[fickle drift]

guys, help

I managed to get an entire clan to trash talk me because I called them weak 😆

[rare cedar]

I’m good, you got this tho

[fickle drift]

it's so funny, dude

one of them blocked me as well 🤣

[rare cedar]

Lets not bring any drama in here plz

[near tree]

Everyone else either had death catch up to them, or died delivering Cortona/buying the autumn more time
Jorge hopped into the slipspace void. Absolute chad

[rare cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/based-halo-master-chief-halo-infinite-halo3-gif-25978708

[near tree]

This is great
Where did you find it?

[rare cedar]

Dynf posted it a while ago and I saved it

[fickle drift]

is that a bot?

[fickle drift]

I won't

the other dudes aren't in this server, it's just funny as hell

[fickle drift]

who?

[obsidian wyvern]

I got it from aegis

[fickle drift]

dynf

never heard of such a guy

[rare cedar]

He just posted before you did

[fickle drift]

o

[rare cedar]

[fickle drift]

[fickle drift]

nah it's a real dude

[hard otter]

some of them kinda explained it, but that's not even close to the full picture.

Even with its losses, the Spartan-II program was considered an overwhelming success. With the Covenant threat looming on the outer colonies doorsteps, especially after planet Harvest got its butt kicked, they needed more Spartans. The Spartan-III program was approved without Dr. Halsey's input (which is why she's so cold to them at first. She didn't see them as "hers" though she would eventually), and was mainly spearheaded by one Colonel James Ackerson. (Ackerson is a whole other can of worms. If you thought Halsey was a piece of work with little to no morality, Ackerson was everything bad about Halsey overclocked.)

The augmentation process was refined to a safer degree, so the candidates didn't have to have certain genetic traits. Not only that, orphans were specifically chosen for the program based on fostering hatred and resentment for the Covenant, mainly chosen from glassed planets. They were then put through the same training the II's had, but in some cases even more brutal.

Two major companies of about 400 candidates were chosen. Alpha and Beta companies. (Noble Six and Kat are from Beta, as an example.), with 100, give or take, washouts. Spartan-III's were also taught to adhere to the mission above all else, even at the expense of their safety, and were often portrayed as sociopathic and utterly broken at their center.

Because of the sheer number of Spartan-III's, they couldn't afford to mass produce the MJOLNIR, so they went with a budget option a lot of people know as the Semi-Powered Infiltration armor, or SPI. (only Noble Team in canon had access to the Mk.V[B], since it was a NAVSPECWAR project, mainly.)

Cheap, expendable super-soldiers thrown into the grinder.

[fickle drift]

why was only Noble team given the Mark 5?

were they like super-mega-ultra soldiers?

[winter flame]

im gonna guess it relates to their high ranks

even with the looser selection there's still going to be plenty that are no less worthy of MJOLNIR

[winter flame]

The augmentation process was refined to a safer degree, so the candidates didn't have to have certain genetic traits
I think they did?

yah the wiki says "compatible individuals still remained incredibly narrow" citing Ghost of Onyx

[karmic moon]

Who else heard the rumor about a reboot of Marathon as an extraction based tac shooter?

[fickle drift]

... what?

[indigo plover]

in response to youtube not letting use adblock maybe we should mass report every single comercial we see from now on

[fickle drift]

or if you really hate ads that much, just get premium 🤷‍♂️

[winter flame]

if they forced you to "watch" ads i would just use a script to mute and blank the add, replacing it with a timer

youtube just aint worth £12/month

[fickle drift]

IQ 400

but I reckon that's easier said than done

[winter flame]

someone will do it, and it will be impossible to block

[fickle drift]

only time will tell

[winter flame]

you'll just have to add the script to something like Tapermonkey or ublock most likely. I think they already exist for people who dont wanna see ads, but also want creators to see earn ad revenue from their views

its basically just applying the property "visibility: hidden" in CSS while the ad is playing, and muting it somehow with javascript

an extension could probably just mute the browser window if somehow they stopped scripts muting the player

[fickle drift]

but how does the script differentiate between the ads and the actual video?

[winter flame]

the most simple way is just looking at the code, there's gonna be plenty of identifiers to tell that an ad is playing

same way ad blockers work rn

the only way they are blocking ad blockers is by locking the page if the ad doesn't load

if you're just muting and hiding the video its not really possible for them to prevent it

the tricky part would probably be auto-skipping when the skip ad option appears

[thorny glen]

Quite a few spartan iii's were given MJOLNIR armor, noble team was one of the few teams who got it

[thorny glen]

The only way YouTube can force ads is by making the ad part of the video itself with it being impossible to skip or jump forward from. Kinda like how sponsors work now.

Sure you could blank it out somehow but I think it's more effort then it's worth at that rate beyond just muting the tab manually

Not like YouTube is gonna tell you which part of the video is an ad anyways. It'd be nearly impossible to block especially if it's randomized

[thorny glen]

That's definitely not the only way. YouTube could easily force ads in certain parts of the video automatically during the rendering/processing area the moment you upload it. It'd be more difficult for YT to change the ad after that advertiser stops paying but it prevents people from "skipping ads"

[winter flame]

i dont use them because its kinda immoral but there is sponsor blocking extensions

so they would have to randomise when the ads show

which would be hard to do without some way of detecting the ad via syntax

plus for ad personalisation they would need multiple versions of every video on youtube with ads embedded into the video i think?

idk if streaming tech has reached a point you can change a part of a video while it still is the same "stream"

[thorny glen]

Which is very possible just like sponsors are in videos now.

It'd take a massive group effort & some reporting feature with the ability to report where ads appear in new videos so they can be blocked by some app or extension if you really wanted to keep blocking ads at that point.

But this would be impossible for new videos, you'd have to wait a day or a few days tops.

[thorny glen]

Like I said make the ad part of the actual video so even if you download the vid, the ad is still there.

[winter flame]

the problem is they probably have to distinguish ads in some way and worse case you need some quite resource intensive extension scanning the video

if they made that the only way, i have no real doubt it would be done

also they would have to stop you skipping the ad so i really dont see a way they can hide where ads are placed in syntax

[thorny glen]

Wouldn't be that difficult to constantly switch out which ads are in a video tbh.

[winter flame]

as soon as they lock skipping you can detect an ad is playing

and i dont think they can do that without telling your browser

web is just too transparent for them to really force you to see an ad

[thorny glen]

Why would this need to happen?
It'd be like switching servers but in a matchmaking rotation. Certain people get certain ads

[winter flame]

i mean if they could easily do that, they already would have

[thorny glen]

True

[winter flame]

1 video stream is the obvious solution to ad block but it hasnt happened yet and it seems they are just locking the player if the ad doesnt load

[thorny glen]

The matchmaking ad part thing is already been happening actually. It's having ads directly embbed into the videos themselves which would make adblocking completely useless that hasn't happened yet.

Why? Space requirements. It'd require way to much space to do. You could argue that Google could just render out a new video with a different ad per stream then delete the video but you then run into processing power restrictions.

[winter flame]

that what i mean by streaming tech, if they can do it on the fly as they are streaming a video maybe it would work

like stitching videos together server side but your client just sees 1 video stream

[thorny glen]

anyways this is kinda getting off topic regarding halo u know lol

[winter flame]

yah but its 9am so we're good

🤣

[thorny glen]

nah

[winter flame]

if a mod is awake rn i apologise

[obsidian wyvern]

this isn't even a halo channel anymore

[thorny glen]

mods always awake

[obsidian wyvern]

halo only*

[thorny glen]

always been a mostly halo & less of other stuff channel lol

Tbh I'm pretty sure they're shutting the app down cause the people who made it no longer work at 343i anyways. Think that's why they redid the original waypoint app to begin with.

I'll never forgive them for ruining the waypoint forums tho. People stopped using them cause it was a bad design.

Like the whole revamp to the waypoint forums and waypoint in general is why people stopped using it. It was just an awful switch from the old look that anyone who did use them stopped and switched to reddit or twitter

[winter flame]

its probably just not worth the investment given the game isn't popping off

the app that is

i dont really know why they dont just focus on making the web app more adaptive and then release that on the app stores

[lyric vessel]

If anyone from the Dev team is reading this, We all really want tge Reach Jetpack back as an Equipment. it should have a faster flight speed but limited fuel

[winter flame]

the mobile website is already a better UX then the app

well the website on mobile

it has some UI elements that aren't really ideal for small screens but it's responsive and a lot of the UI works well

[thorny glen]

The app was always buggy af since it came out and they made zero improvements to it pretty much. Did one "beta" for it before launch and that was it. It still runs awful to this day even on my Samsung S23+

[thorny glen]

That's just armor abilites & H4 did that already. Wasn't very popular in neither reach or halo 4 for comp play so

[winter flame]

it runs awful on iOS too, i figured they were just a small team focused on the back end stuff and the app would eventually get sorted out, but tbh i dont know why they even went that route over a Web-based app instead

[lyric vessel]

No like it wouldn't have fuel that recharges

limited fuel

[balmy tundra]

how would it work differently from grappleshot?

[thorny glen]

I don't know why the app was made to begin with ngl.

[lyric vessel]

the ability to hover?

And the customs opportunities are endless

[winter flame]

im pretty sure its because they thought F2P Halo would take off. The management at least. They forgot you need to finish the game first and initial impressions are key.

[lyric vessel]

you'd be able to shoot and carry objectives

[thorny glen]

I think you mean the ability to fly really high up in the air not hover. Or act like a double jump

Flying really high in the air is exactly why it shouldn't be added tho tbh.

[lyric vessel]

Are you telling me you don't know how to hover with the Reach/h4 jetpack

[winter flame]

but i mean there's also the economic realities rn that mean everyone is cutting costs

[thorny glen]

No I do, and that wouldn't be possible in Infinite without making it have unlimited fuel. So no, it shouldn't be added

[lyric vessel]

How would that be impossible with limited fuel? that argument makes 0 sense

[thorny glen]

1st impressions are key on everything. The management 100% forgot in order to make a f2p game start off good, you need to have a game. Kinda sucks Infinite will never take off cause of it ngl

[thorny glen]

Limited fuel prevents hovering? Again, exactly why it shouldn't be added

1 time use means you use it once to go up really high or no go. There's no multiple uses like you could in reach or h4.

[winter flame]

yah absolutely. game is coming together and i dont really have any doubt i'll be playing it for the next few years but man the missed potential sucks

[lyric vessel]

like imagine attacking a btb base with a detached turret and a jetpack, you can "fly up really high" or hover around the base. going all the way up would burn all your fuel but usig it for more horizontal movement would make your fuel last longer

[thorny glen]

You know like how the grapple works?

[thorny glen]

Yea you just described why it shouldn't be added lmao that's pointless

Also you can't use equipment while holding turrents so uhh

[lyric vessel]

why is that pointless

[thorny glen]

Because like in H4 you can't do that due to the fuel disappearing to fast. I feel like you don't understand what you're wanting

Cause if it's just reach jet pack 2.0 then 100% no

[lyric vessel]

that's what would make it unique, just like how the jetpack was the only movement based armor ability that let you shoot and attack while using it

try to keep up 🥱

[winter flame]

i think the grapple just works better as a limited use vertical transversal mechanic. If they didn't do the grapple and literally build the campaign around the grapple then sure, a limited use jet pack would work in the sandbox. but a grapple makes more sense regardless

[thorny glen]

So it's better to not have it.

You still haven't figured out that H4 jet pack had so little fuel it was impossible to "hover" like that to.

You also forgot Halo 5 thrusters exist that allow you to "hover" in mid air and allow you to use your weapons in mid air. That's what they should bring back. Not a pointless jet pack when grapple hooks exist

Try to play the Halo games

[winter flame]

redundant is the word

[thorny glen]

No. It's not even redundant. It's just over powered. It's why it never returned in halo 5.

[winter flame]

in reach if you were losing on a lot of maps you could just jetpack up into the air and rain down DMR shots on some guy for an easy kill

[thorny glen]

Also why h4 nerfed it to being nearly useless

[lyric vessel]

You're being so intentionally dense. it doesn't have to function identical to theH4 jetpack. I'm envisioning something more like Pharah from Overwatch except fuel does not recharge when you touch the ground. and it'd have more fuel to compensate,

[winter flame]

the speed at which you got yeeted into the sky made it hard for the other team to team you and the headshot is hard to hit when your so high up so you could get a cheeky kill quite easily

it was just a way to trade a kill for your life but it gave you a chance against a coordinated team

[thorny glen]

Then it'd be to OP if it's not the h4 jet pack or weaker. Would still have limited use but there'd be no point in adding something that'd only cause issues.

[lyric vessel]

because the same problem doesn't exist with the grapple?

[winter flame]

it doesnt work as effectively and its not actually a problem in reach

[thorny glen]

Nope. Because your constantly moving up or down.

[winter flame]

reach has a lot of get out of jail stuff

[thorny glen]

Aiming while your moving so fast is a issue. The grapple also doesn't propel you that high either

[lyric vessel]

it can

[winter flame]

yah idk how the grapple is really comparable to reach jet pack noob tactics. the grapple can get you out of a situation but getting you free kills is not nearly as easy

reach has a lot of noob tactics though so it works well

[thorny glen]

I wouldn't say that. It just has a lot of junk in it's sandbox that's half baked. You have all the options to chase opponents around but the massive amounts of bloom and inaccuracies of it's weapon sandbox saves the enemy more often then not

[lyric vessel]

So was the jetpack bad or overpowered because you guys really can't make up your minds other than to disagree

[thorny glen]

Both.

[winter flame]

well he hates reach for facilitating cheap gameplay and i love it for that reason so we're not going to agree haha

[lyric vessel]

Sorry that I enjoyed playing customs nore than sweating in mlg

[winter flame]

but we can agree Infinite is not going for the same cheap gameplay

honestly if you wanna play reach rn you still can and if you like the gameplay, it has aged well otehrwise

[thorny glen]

Infinite's game play is an entirely different problem lol

The weapon sandbox in Infinite barely makes any sense as it is from a redundancy perspective
Equipment in the game was a mistake
Movement in the game feels rigid and not smooth at all
List goes on

It feels half baked in the sense that your playing a tech demo and not the full game, like the devs forgot how game development works or something

Reach feels like your playing a knock off of the real experience

[lyric vessel]

If you want to play Halo 2, you can just go do that

and have 0 fun

[winter flame]

to me Halo 4 is the knockoff. Reach is the weird casual spin off. 5 is the attempt to modernise and innovate, and Infinite is a back peddle on 5

so if you love 5, infinite just feels like steps backwards

[thorny glen]

I heavily disagree. Halo 4 feels like Halo 2 but with reach loadouts & armor abilites. No body liked armor abilites or loadouts so the game died.

If they just kept the base H4 game play with sprint new weapons and all that I'm 100% confident it'd be loved just like it's campaign was.

[winter flame]

that's legendary slayer on MCC and I like it more then the other modes, but it still isn't my thing

whereas Halo 2AMP i really like so idk

[thorny glen]

As for Halo 5, MP 10/10 but mid tier story. Ignore the campaign tbh. It's gameplay/multi-player is definitely the most refined Halo experience you can have today

[lyric vessel]

Reach is the Casual Party game, H4 is the knock off, H5 is the gritty 2000's reboot , and Infinite is the attempt at the Classic rebbot

[thorny glen]

I find Halo 2 pretty fun to play even today so

[lyric vessel]

Halo 2 was my first Halo and I find it a drag to replay tbh

[winter flame]

not particularly a fan of 5 but i will never support leaving a game like that to rot when it should have been patched for next gen and got a PC release

[lyric vessel]

Love the Story to be clear

[thorny glen]

Legendary slayer on MCC wasn't the entire game though, nor is it the main mode on MCC either. It's only available on the precision only playlist to so no AR's storm rifles etc. Maps are different to

[lyric vessel]

I just don't think the game aged well at all

[tight remnant]

I miss warzone and so much i#from halo 5

[winter flame]

sweat fest combos and sweat fest map design

[thorny glen]

Definitely no, just read my previous replies.

As for Infinite, it was advertised as a classic reboot to bait people, but by no means is it a classic reboot at all.

[lyric vessel]

Warzone was fun for awhile but 90% of my time in H5 was Forge and Customs

[lyric vessel]

attempt

[thorny glen]

It was patched for the Xbox One X so technically it got a next gen patch. Never a PC port tho

[winter flame]

half of halo 2's MCC player base is probably using macros to do combos giving you no chance

[tight remnant]

One x isn’t next gem

[lyric vessel]

is there really a big proformance difference from a One X to a Series S?

[thorny glen]

It wasn't even a attempt. Having a reach armor core in the game is not a attempt because reach isn't classic Halo.

Now if they did Mark V armor from Halo 1 or H2/H3 armor designs sure, it's an attempt.

They don't though. So it's not. They also didn't bring back a single classic weapon.

No attempts were ever made lol

[winter flame]

5 looks stunning on One X but it needed a FOV slider and such to keep up today

[thorny glen]

It was just advertising marketing bogus lies lol

[tight remnant]

I want multiple models on vehicles and guns

Mud flaps and windshield and front attachment and different wheels go have a beefed up warthog look

[lyric vessel]

Chief looks like he did in H2/3 and he's on a Ring with the Blue Lady shooting at Covenant look a likes? wdyem no attempt

[tight remnant]

We need more models

I would have preferred more halo 4/5 inspiration

[thorny glen]

Down grade yea, Xbox Series S can't do 4k and usually gets the worst ports while the XONE X can do 4k.

Although going forward the XSS will get all the new games while the XONE X doesn't despite the One X being more powerful

[winter flame]

the One X is a last gen console with a hugely beefed up GPU for 4K. Series S has wayyy more CPU power to hit higher framerates, a new GPU architecture, but less raw GPU power and vram because it's really for 1080p TVs

it was also stupid expensive

[lyric vessel]

man got the maths
(thanks)

[thorny glen]

Chief looks nothing like his H2/H3 armor what?

He's on a ring that looks nothing like the previous Halo rings, and no multiple environments.

The "covenant look alikes" don't look covenant at all, they look like Banished things.

Yea, no attempt was made

[lyric vessel]

You're insane

I can't tell if you're joking

[thorny glen]

XONE X has a beefed up CPU to btw, and having a more powerful cpu doesn't guarantee higher frame rates. You need a GPU that can do it to.

It's why the XONE X has smoother frame times then the XSS

[lyric vessel]

(most of*) The Forerunner architecture in Infinite looks just like Updated HCE architecture

even down to the textures

[thorny glen]

No it does not if you've actually gone back and played it.

The textures look nothing alike at all

[lyric vessel]

Am I the only one who remembers the entire community freaking out over the return of the Forerunner door designs of the og trilogy

and that was just a door

look at the beam towers with you face balls

[winter flame]

this is one of these debates where i think you're both kinda wrong and kinda right but the chances of finding any common ground are zero because you fundamentally want to see the game differently

[thorny glen]

That's not textures that's just a design but people didn't realize that they open way to slow in Infinite + it's not fully the same anyways

[thorny glen]

None of that looks similar

[lyric vessel]

Ok bud.

I wish i could share images bc i have a couple of personal screenshots from Infinite that capture the feel of the original trilogy so well

[thorny glen]

Saying that looks similar or even the same is like me saying reach elites look like halo 1 elites.

They don't btw incase you actually thought that

[winter flame]

i would probs just let it slide cause neither of you are gonna get anything from this

[thorny glen]

And I'm guessing you've never compared any of those images to previous Halo games right?

[thorny glen]

Probably yea

[lyric vessel]

I'm done with them being intentionality dense

[winter flame]

now now, its just a pointless debate over a video game anyway

[thorny glen]

Not being dense no idea what is making you think that. I'm just trying to tell you to go back and actually play the original games and look around.

Pay attention to the fine details down to the pixels

[lyric vessel]

They're my favorite game

[thorny glen]

And you'll notice how different they really are

[lyric vessel]

I play all of them at least once a year

[thorny glen]

And yet you kinda admitted to me you haven't done 1 comparison

[lyric vessel]

And I'm telling you I was overwhelmed by Nostalgia walking through the Forerunner hallways in Infinite. especially when I saw those pointless Lightning machines from the hallways of Alpha Halo

Or did you notice the hallways leading to the final boss fight in Infinite look like the Hallways of the Library

[thorny glen]

Infinite actually has a lot of H5 inspiration ironically. They reused a ton of stuff.

It's just in all the wrong areas. Most of the animations are directly from H5, the movement (although they messed up the movement system somehow, still the same system), clamber is identical, the into & outros are a continuation of how H5 did it (and might've even been cut h5 stuff), and loads of other things to even in Forge.

The engines are nearly the same to but years of contractors messed up a lot of things about it.

[thorny glen]

That's sad then if you were without realizing how different they really are.

[thorny glen]

They don't, what?

[lyric vessel]

Things can look different and look similar. I didn't say it was 1-1 identical

I never said that

[winter flame]

i think a lot has actually changed with the engine under the hood but they spent so long reworking tool that the end result hasn't shown any real improvement over 5, and if anything regression

cause Bonnie Ross actually admitted the tools were a big problem during 5's development

[thorny glen]

What's funny is even Infinite's emblem system is 100% identical to how Halo 5 did it at launch, but due to out rage 343i reverted it back to how it works today in H5. @tight remnant

[thorny glen]

It doesn't even look similar though. I'm just saying your priorities aren't on straight if you think this.

[winter flame]

and most likely the reuse of 5's animations is really just a testament to how much that game got right

[lyric vessel]

Also you really can't see how Infinite Chief looks like a Beefed up H3 chief with a splash of the Forward unto Dawn armor inspiration

[thorny glen]

Not much has changed at all really under the hood. Most changes happened to the tools themselves I think.

The engine part barely changed at all.

[lyric vessel]

Source?

[thorny glen]

H3 chief does not look beefed up wdym lmao

Nor does infinite chief look like h3 chief once again

[lyric vessel]

🤦

[winter flame]

its odd how broken the UI is and how the game lacks so many modes from 5. That's the only reason I would assume a decent amount of work was done on the engine, but idk

[thorny glen]

This is a lost cause argument with you so I'm gonna end it here. Just reread my previous messages and actually do comparison screenshots, especially with forerunmer stuff and environments, until then just don't reply.

[winter flame]

it wasnt going anywhere 20 minutes ago ngl, not taking a side but sometimes you just gotta let it go

[thorny glen]

UI is broken cause they off loaded it to contractors. It stayed broken for a while cause they didn't know how to fix it or change much about it.

343i reverse engineers a lot of stuff all the time tbh.

It lacks game modes because they changed the game mode structure off of H5, you could convert them over but without H5's weapon sandbox & game play it's kinda not worth it without just making new versions.

Plus infinite's game modes have different options vs H5's so that's another factor to consider.

The engine itself tho is mostly the same with the same options/stuff/etc. It's just the BLAM engine. You can tell by just using a modding program for both games, or just compare the file structure from H5 Forge to Infinite's on PC.

90% of it is identical I'd estimate, most of that 10% were either unnecessary changes or contractor nonsense that stuck for who knows why.

[lyric vessel]

Check your DMs i can't share images here

[thorny glen]

That 10% is also why the game runs so poorly vs H5 to, why the game crashes so much and more. It doesn't take a lot in video game development to go from fully working to "we can't figure out why it's running so badly"

[steady jolt]

Unless you have anything solid to back the majority of this up with, please don't spread this as fact

just compare the file structure
You know you can completely re-write the back-end, while still maintaining compatibility?

Allowing you to pull over legacy items and test in a new environment

90% of it is identical I'd estimate, most of that 10% were either unnecessary changes or contractor nonsense that stuck for who knows why.
This is just flat out false

Anyways, feel free to move this down to #halo-discussion if you want to continue

[lyric vessel]

ooooooooooooooof

[queen remnant]

Nighterlev moment

[fickle drift]

Don’t trust nighter’s pov lol

[thorny glen]

I'm just going off what I've seen, obviously most of it can't be discussed here ik that.

Ik you can rewrite things in the "back end", to me that back end is what tools you guys use to make the games. That's typically where most change happens anyhow.

[thorny glen]

I'm just estimating based off the game, not tools or the "back end", stuff I don't have access to.

[steady jolt]

You're presenting this as though it's factual, like you have inside knowledge about how development went
In future, don't do that.
Again, please move this down to #halo-discussion if you want to continue

[thorny glen]

Do you mind me pinging you there? Not sure how this could continue really. Ik a lot of it is under red tape

[steady jolt]

I don't need or want to be pinged unless it's an emergency

[thorny glen]

Alright

[rotund dagger]

Hey does anyone play Reach Invasion on MCC? Cant find games at all

[hybrid pike]

I used but not anymore it just got so boring and who’s idea was it to make invasion ranked?!

[rotund dagger]

Right

[fickle drift]

Comp in mcc is dead so stick to custom games

[hybrid pike]

True it is

[rotund dagger]

I cant even find a game in H4 Squad battle...

[thorny glen]

It's 3-5-6AM for all of the USA right now.
Most people who play Halo are asleep cause of that.
So I'd just assume no one is up to play it at all.
Plus all ranked playlist in MCC have been dead for a while so stick to social playlist

[fickle drift]

I’ve only gotten like 2 invasion games that were super one sided after playing this game for like 2 years

Only time I’d get consistent ranked games is via boosting for the weekly lmao

[thorny glen]

Even then still pretty difficult

[rotund dagger]

@thorny glen copy thank you for the info. Also Im US but work nights so i get it...kinda sucks...wished we had Warzone back too

[fickle drift]

How? Nobody plays comp, they’re ruining socials

[thorny glen]

I meant it'd still be difficult to find ranked matches now for the challenge even when it's up

[hybrid pike]

I always lose to these infamous red & blue guys their team is too sweaty for me

[fickle drift]

Just queue doubles with two accounts and have a friend do the same

[hybrid pike]

I almost always go against them 😦

[fickle drift]

It’s ok

[thorny glen]

You on green team or something? Makes sense that you lose

[fickle drift]

My teammates in infinite quick play are worse than bots

It’ll get better for you

[hybrid pike]

I’m on caboose’s team lol 😂

I mean I’m decent but that’s just too sweaty I can hardly breathe

Every time I play as elites I’m stuck using the glow stick weapons the game calls “plasma”

[thorny glen]

Just don't play the precision game modes in MCC

You'll immediately notice a huge improvement cause all the sweats play precision

[thorny glen]

Also huh

[fickle drift]

Who in their right mind plays AR starts

[thorny glen]

Anyone who isn't sweating
Also in order to play with Halo 4's custom load outs your forced to 😩

[hybrid pike]

Just some banter nothing serious

[fickle drift]

But even then you just run precision weapons on the loadouts

So it’s completely redundant in that game lol

[thorny glen]

Ok but now I can spawn with plasma grenades unlimited sprint and the boltshot + promethean vision

Which you can't in precision modes

[fickle drift]

Also I am the most casual of noobs and I know better than anyone that using the AR outside of weeklies is a meme

[thorny glen]

I disagree unless it's reach or halo 3

AR's in those games are pea shooters

[fickle drift]

The AR in CE requires you to be hugging your opponent to do reliable damage

[thorny glen]

H4 & H5 the AR is useful and can actually do damage

HI the AR is OP lol

[thorny glen]

No it doesn't huh

[hybrid pike]

I like using everything I can not just precision weapons all the time which gets stale it’s good to have variety and mix things up a bit like chief says

[fickle drift]

Too far away, you’re not getting anything done
Mid range you’re going against the pistol which is the better option
Close range you go against the shotgun which is a huge risk

[hybrid pike]

The ar in halo 1 it’s just overshadowed by the magnum which makes it look weak

[fickle drift]

AR is the real secondary

[hybrid pike]

True

Halo 1 without magnum would be fun experience with lots of variety that make other weapons useful and not overshadowed so much

[thorny glen]

1. That applies to every single close-mid range weapon.
2. You can go against the pistol, or just shoot them and hide behind cover etc. Blows can be traded like that.
3. Shotgun is a rare spawn, doesn't show up on every map either

[thorny glen]

I disagree. You can play h1 without the magnum on MCC by turning off precision mode actually. It's not as fun as you'd think

[hybrid pike]

I have a friend that makes a mode like that and it plays very well and we have quite the number of people join our custom game

[fickle drift]

The two things that make the ar a good pick are the longer melee and the whole double melee grenade trick

[hybrid pike]

We even had mintblitz join our h3 game once he whooped our butts lol 😆

[pearl hollow]

ello all

[tired wraith]

Greetings

[unkempt prism]

was there supposed to be some store update with Halo Infinite to where we can buy anything?

[queen remnant]

Yeah, just go any item from collections idk like Celox helmet and you can see the bundle to buy it

[steady jolt]

#announcements has a link to the patch notes with more information

[frozen tapir]

Halo reach

[granite quarry]

HELLO GUYS !

I need help please

how can I appela a ban ?

I have no coms in Halo Infinite

[thorny glen]

Most things from S1 & S2 can be bought from the armor customization menu (just go to the item, click on it, it'll say "store", click on that and you'll be brought to the bundle it was part of & how many credits it cost to buy.
I think the only things that can't be bought so far are the Event items and the HCS items tbh.

[hasty zinc]

among quite a few other S1/S2 stuff

[fickle drift]

this new update is amazing

[pulsar heron]

if its an xbox comms ban you need to go to xbox enforcement

[next fable]

Halo reach 2 goes hard

[tired wraith]

You got the preorder?

[muted rose]

Halo reach 2, Noble six comes out of his cave, sees his shadow, and goes back in

[alpine ingot]

halo~!

[molten pelican]

preordering rn

[jolly willow]

You're probably correct in that many of those people don't work there anymore, but that doesn't mean someone else couldn't maintain the app.
They just don't want to invest in it anymore

[winter flame]

Wish they would just retcon chief surviving reach and replace him with Kat, then remake the whole trilogy with Kat as the main character

[molten pelican]

I miss waypoint forums😔

[jolly willow]

Same

[molten pelican]

discord just isnt built for forums like that

[winter flame]

What’s wrong with r/halo? Great place for constructive discussion no?

[molten pelican]

never visited is that sarcasm lol

[winter flame]

Of course not 😉

[muted rose]

If you want to call it constructive, consider me Captain of the pillar of autumn

[molten pelican]

oh gotcha absolutely ❗

[pulsar cobalt]

So I'm guessing once season 4 is out the season 3 store stuff gets rotated in permanently

[fickle drift]

Removed for rule 2

[steady jolt]

Discord forums definitely need a bit of work, but it's a good start with potential

Alsready been a ton of feedback put into the functionality

[muted rose]

Fun-ctionality

[molten pelican]

hehe

[winter flame]

Probably would pop off if image embeds were allowed 😉

[steady jolt]

They are, if you have the appropriate roles

[winter flame]

😑

[molten pelican]

[vagrant sable]

Image perms for channels tends to be the case in discord servers because of those who don't know how to keep some pics not sent.

[winter flame]

I don’t know if automatic image perms for the forums granted after say 2 months of activity would be too unmanageable but idk

[pulsar cobalt]

Seems like everyone is playing super fiesta now

[muted rose]

If everyone had image perms in a server as big as this, it would be beyond chaos

[vagrant sable]

People would literally send any pic they want in which would cause more bans to happen.

[winter flame]

Forums are a bit different

I don’t really think I would post pics in a channel like this cause I find it annoying when people do lol

[muted rose]

I understand the reluctance for image perms completely. Gif spam, trolling, and the like would be a bad look for any official server

[molten pelican]

discord just doesnt work with traditional forums and its okay

Waypoint forums were really nice tho and there isnt a great alternative atm

[winter flame]

I honestly like them

[muted rose]

Not saying that you would do it, but better safe than sorry

[near tree]

What would you need image perms for in forums?

[winter flame]

Like the cosmetics post has basically become the place everyone chats about cosmetics, and a post like that you could disable image perms on. But like if someone makes a post and there’s only a few people in that thread, letting them post images would be a huge benefit

Idk how finely you can control perms for forum posts tho

[winter flame]

I feel like that’s a stupid question no offence

[hasty zinc]

there will always be bad actors, no matter how small the thread is

[winter flame]

Being able to post an image would obviously make people use the forums more so they can post images of whatever they wanna talk about. Whether it’s manageable for the mods is another matter

[molten pelican]

brutal

[winter flame]

I said no offence so it’s okay 😄

[molten pelican]

yeah dw bout it

[muted rose]

Offense is taken sometimes anyway. If you must begin a sentence with no offense, it is better left unsaid

[molten pelican]

no offence, but this is a stupid message

[muted rose]

😡

[molten pelican]

laughs in sangheili

[muted rose]

Can sanghelli laugh? I feel like the mandibles would have something to say

[steady jolt]

I'm not sure how you can be certain of that truth

[molten pelican]

have you not heard them laugh, its menacing, its like larry wheels

[winter flame]

I mean I’m not calling them stupid, I just think it’s pretty obvious why sending images on a forum has its uses. Kinda the point of the forums was to let people have more in-depth focused discussion, which also means images aren’t going to be spammed like they would here

[muted rose]

On second thought, I have heard them laugh a million times on my legendary CE run

They laugh at my suffering

[winter flame]

Can’t be, it’s just a suggestion :)

[molten pelican]

they laugh at your pain

[hasty zinc]

images aren’t going to be spammed like they would here
I can assure you they will

[molten pelican]

Mute right?

[hasty zinc]

once people find out you can post images on those threads it will be chaos

you give an inch they take a mile

[molten pelican]

cant a bot mute for NSFW or Posting over the limit ?

[vagrant sable]

Probably

[hasty zinc]

there will be meme threads popping up every 2 seconds

a nightmare to moderate

[vagrant sable]

Correct

[winter flame]

Maybe do it the other way around > constructive use of forums let’s you post images in forum threads. I know you already grant image perms selectively but it’s pretty uncommon I see anyone posting images in the forums

[steady jolt]

Remember that there's so much that goes on here that regular users just don't get to see. The kinds of things people try and post on a daily basis. And even with the filtering and bots we have, we still need to put the work in.

[round laurel]

If anyone thinks an image is important enough for discussion then surely imgur will suffice

[molten pelican]

I get that

[molten pelican]

Oh I completely forgot about imgur XD

I take back everything i said im with the mods

[steady jolt]

We're still looking at how the image perm rolls out, but for the moment how it's set up is fairly optimal

[vagrant sable]

Or if you want to get an image through to someone well just DM them it on something.

[muted rose]

That was my first thought. I’m not a moderator in any server, but it seems pretty simple why there’s no perms

[molten pelican]

stckr could image perms be given to those with good behavior but dont have inheritor in the forums? or would that inbetween not work

[muted rose]

Define “good behavior”

[molten pelican]

some very questionable threads...

[molten pelican]

I cant define it, a Mod can

[muted rose]

Well sure, but what do you think it means

[winter flame]

Tbh I don’t think people with image perms in these channels is actually very good. Sure they don’t spam but i would say half of the stuff is pretty low quality to be brutally honest.

Like I would actually rather more people didn’t get image perms here but the opposite for forums

[molten pelican]

Someone who has had a clean sheet with mutes, no warnings for a long time, etc, maybe something more automatic than inheritor?

[round laurel]

If you believe the select few that have inheritor here post low quality embed images, then surely it would be the same case for the forums, if not worse?

[steady jolt]

That's pretty much inheritor - which is easier to achieve now

[winter flame]

It’s just less distracting in a thread with less people I guess

[steady jolt]

There are also a lot more people with the role now

[molten pelican]

gotcha

I wasnt sure about how it works

[winter flame]

And if someone makes a meme thread I don’t have to look at it ever so

[opal pine]

What's going on with halo nowadays? I haven't touched the game since it failed the community sadly

[winter flame]

Doesn’t really effect me

[muted rose]

But the mods do, that’s the point

[winter flame]

That’s why you ban meme threads lmao

[hasty zinc]

I would love to spend every waking moment deleting meme threads /s

[molten pelican]

tuff job😅

[round laurel]

Understandable.

But again, forums are mainly topic focused, so if an image is related to the topic at hand, then surely a link to imgur would suffice. I think anything that requires an image to be embed would probably be better suited for #1076327824924872755 anyway.

[winter flame]

I’ll volunteer as the meme exterminator don’t worry

[muted rose]

My guy. I understand where your coming from, but moderators would rather not have to moderate constantly. That’s why there’s more than one.

[steady jolt]

Can't have meme threads if you can't post memes

[hasty zinc]

[molten pelican]

galaxy brain

[muted rose]

“The universe is singing to me!!”

[winter flame]

If you have a zero tolerance no meme rule then the memers will soon all be purged

[vast venture]

Would like to see a continuation of video format patch rundowns, as seen on the official Halo Esports YouTube channel, done for every future patch.

[near tree]

I know we don't want memes here, but why don't we want memes here?
Wouldn't they be fine if they followed rules and stayed in an isolated channel?
Or is the fear that they won't follow rules (or at least be difficult to moderate) or remain isolated?

[vast venture]

Additionally would be awesome to get them in the official halo waypoint patch articles!

[steady jolt]

The tl;dr is that people gonna people

They'll constantly push the boundaries of what is acceptable

[thorny glen]

Running my own server that gets decent enough traction I fully understand this. People try to skirt around rules all the time, even if I mute them for it or warn or anything. It's just an on going thing.

[steady jolt]

And fight that "it's a joke", "it's not that bad", "you're just soft", etc...

[frail walrus]

I like this idea, I would like to see this too. Have all related patch news localized across the various channels where news like this is shared.

[vast venture]

The video format really does a lot for accessibility in understanding what exactly is being changed and it’s definitely easier to share and be understood than a long form text post. Just to be clear, both are great!

[thorny glen]

If let's say I had my own official company and the discord server along with everything else put out there about both me, and my own company in the professional world that was worth billions upon billions of dollars.

I likely would put a permanent ban on anything regarding memes ever being posted without exception due to the very nature of what memes are & how easily they can be abused, you'd need a full on team hired 24/7 just to watch a specific chat so stuff like that doesn't go out of control, or just not allow them to be posted at all and save tons of money.

but that's my opinion on it at least & I don't own said company so

[glossy scarab]

So how do I report a bug

[candid solar]

Via the Halo Support site.

[calm fiber]

Please refer to the Halo Support site for additional information and/or to submit a ticket concerning any issues you may be experiencing.

https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[fickle drift]

Memes suck

I never post memes tbh

[next fable]

You rn:🤓

[molten pelican]

...

[pulsar cobalt]

i hate the win 3 matches maybe i'm just awful at the game

skill issue most likely haha

[burnt frost]

I’d recommend partying up with people

[next fable]

Massive skill issue

I never get a loss streak in halo infinite

Because I don't play it

[candid solar]

That's one heck of an L

[pulsar cobalt]

Acutally nvm somehow i just did the challenge haha

[vagrant sable]

Just keep calm do your best and have fun.

[pulsar cobalt]

I mean i usually do good in infinite just i'm not a fan of those winning challenges that's all

[next fable]

Halo badfinite 😎

Just roasted the heck out of 343i

[pulsar cobalt]

Halo infinite is real good now just saying

[glossy scarab]

Thanks

[tired wraith]

It is doing good now

[stoic pulsar]

https://youtu.be/N40ZPIeEZqQ

[tired wraith]

Yubtub

[glossy scarab]

Will get better as time marches forward

[tired wraith]

I sure hope it does

[fickle drift]

Memes: the DNA of the soul

[crude marsh]

[glossy scarab]

Now I wait to see what 343 will say on the bug I’m expecting

[dire zephyr]

speaking of bugs, i tried buying bundles last night

didnt work

it was in patch notes but..... idk i guess

[balmy tundra]

it should be fixed now

it was bugged for like 3-4 hours post patch

[quaint finch]

hey buds how you been?

[pulsar cobalt]

Season 4-5 are gonna be wild

[vast venture]

Yup! Really looking forward to the progression system 343i is cooking up. Hoping they’ll tie in unique, unlockable cosmetics into it somehow.

Regardless, it’ll be nice to have something to earn outside of the battle pass and grinding ranked.

[glossy scarab]

Don’t forget infected is on the way

[livid nova]

and hopefully Firefight

[glossy scarab]

That could be fun

Now question which halo game had the best shotgun

[fickle drift]

Halo Reach or Halo CE imo

[winter flame]

4 xd

not even memeing 4's shotgun is pog

[pulsar cobalt]

Halo 4 boltshot

Pocket shotgun

[quaint finch]

which campaign was the best?

from halo combat evovled to halo infinite

[zinc hatch]

5

[quaint finch]

why?

was it the cutscenes?

[winter flame]

settings

[balmy tundra]

i miss that ability and the lightrifles firing modes

[winter flame]

5 is the kinda game you just ignore the story and admire the scenery

[balmy tundra]

yeah, 5 had some of the best locations

cough cough sanghelios cough cough

[quaint finch]

alrighty bye buds i hope you enjoy the rest of your day!

[winter flame]

halo fans care too much about story, just shoot aliens and look at the pretty environments /s

[winter flame]

thanks you too

[glossy scarab]

I will have to say halo 2 and 3

[vast venture]

Would really like to see the sticky det make a return in infinite. Can just imagine the crazy plays you could achieve with all the new movement tech

[candid solar]

No, I can't.

It's just launchable C4. There's not many crazy plays you can make with launchable C4.

[balmy tundra]

if we get 5 on PC and modding support, that would be a great thing

[pulsar cobalt]

Chances of halo 5 coming to PC are probably slim

[vapid siren]

a way to lay more long term traps is still solid imo

you sacrifice a secondary weapon for a long con gamble

[balmy tundra]

i know, but we can dream

[vast venture]

Would like to see it as a replacement for some other vehicle counters in BTB too

[fickle drift]

i want halo horror game bruh

[winter flame]

sticky detonator just seemed like an alternative nade launcher that's less fun

[zinc hatch]

The Reach grenade launcher but good

[vapid siren]

both the GL and sticky det honestly can fit in

a big issue tho is GL steps on the toes of cindershot as it stands

[winter flame]

nade launcher was kinda stupid OP but being able to shoot the ground and wait for someone to walk into it is just not a style of gameplay that makes any sense in halo

the nade launcher was at least satisfying

[vapid siren]

given that Infinite is very setup heavy, it allows good interplay in holding setups and breaking enemy setups

[vast venture]

Yeah it’s all about balance in whatever map sandbox you have it on and what the idea behind its strengths and weaknesses would be in infinite. You can balance it be be more or less effective for a desired result. Always thought the det was one of the greatest halo weapons

[winter flame]

it would do absolutely nothing in comp because they would just be hearing beep beep beep

[zinc hatch]

Reach nade launcher is one of the most inconsistent guns I've ever used in a video game, next to the shock weapons in Infinite.

[winter flame]

its a noob weapon that only works on noobs imo

[vapid siren]

given footsteps dont exist cause lucid cried about it on stream, i'd beg to differ lol

[balmy tundra]

it can't be as bad as our current plasma pistol

[winter flame]

the nade launcher is by contrast a brutal weapon that's broken in the hands of a skilful player because its so lethal

[balmy tundra]

context

is this a HCS thing?

[vapid siren]

high level and pro players said footsteps were too easy to hear, so they lowered the volume

now it's painfully easy to walk behind someone and get a free kill

[winter flame]

making it not audible would be so broken that it would have to beep loud enough half the map can hear lmao

[zinc hatch]

Infinite's plasma pistol isn't even inconsistent, it just straight sucks.

[pulsar cobalt]

Is that why i can't hear people anymore

[vapid siren]

yup

[obsidian wyvern]

I can't get anyone from behind

hear*

[vapid siren]

it may not specifically have been lucid btw i just chose him to be my cope scapegoat

spartan gets enough flak

[fickle drift]

solution: turn your tv/headset up to full blast (lol)

[winter flame]

lucid didn't ask for audio to be borked completely so idk why you're throwing shade at him because 343 devs messed up

[vapid siren]

it... is

[obsidian wyvern]

spartan deserves it

[zinc hatch]

I've never once managed to get a kill with the nade launcher that wasn't because the enemy had low health. At least the H5 Reach launcher was actually consistent and was good at getting kills

[vapid siren]

because it's funny

[fickle drift]

turn it up louder!

[pulsar cobalt]

I mean alot of halo 5 was changed due to the pro scene right

[winter flame]

i mean its toxic and just fuels this incorrect narrative that pro players are the reason for 343 making bad decisions

[vapid siren]

i am like actually severely hearing impaired like i can't turn it up much more without causing actual damage cause it may sound loud but it's damaging levels of loud in actuality

[winter flame]

same with the mangler nerf

[balmy tundra]

they nerfed the mangler?

[obsidian wyvern]

I mean they have changed a lot because of pros which just makes it anti fun

[pulsar cobalt]

it was a 2 hit kill before

[vapid siren]

idk man it was honestly a bit of a pro cope to begin with

[fickle drift]

then go outside and turn it up louder lol

[vapid siren]

"oh no the other guy paid attention"

[obsidian wyvern]

no they didnt nerf the mangler exactly

[zinc hatch]

Nah the pro players are just annoying and egotistical and constantly say stupid stuff that deserves getting flak.

[fickle drift]

Does anyone know how active halo 5 warzone modes are?

[obsidian wyvern]

they nerfed melees in order to nerf the mangler, it was stupid

[zinc hatch]

Yeah you can still find Warzone matches

[balmy tundra]

weekends and friday for mythic and warszone normal, heroic firefight all the time

[pulsar cobalt]

oh is that what it was i thought they straight up nerfed the mangler to a 3 hit kill

[vapid siren]

im no tasking for trex sized earth shattering footsteps here, but like nobody should be realistically able to just waltz behind me without any cue for me to work off of so i have a semblance of a chance to react to if i pay attention

[balmy tundra]

that sounds dumb

[winter flame]

Not a single pro asked for mangler to get nerfed in the way it did. Vast majority said they would be fine with it being removed from comp, or put on a power weapon pad like a bulldog. So no the change to the melee damage to nerf the mangler was not the doing of anyone except the devs

[fickle drift]

I can never find them 😭

[fickle drift]

radar?

[vapid siren]

they cried about mangler instead of the s7 but better and a t2

[zinc hatch]

Try setting the search settings to Expanded(i think that's the one that searches for wider games?)

[obsidian wyvern]

there's no radar in ranked

[fickle drift]

oh wait it only shows sprinting people now, doesn't it?

[vapid siren]

imo radar and foosteps should be effectively linked

[fickle drift]

oof at 1% speed

[vapid siren]

if they're visible on radar you should be able to hear em

or if they would be visible on radar i guess

[fickle drift]

that would make sense

[vapid siren]

it then becomes a bit of a nice, readable system with accessible aspects for those who are hard of hearing

at least in radar enabled modes there

[vast venture]

Before the footstep changes you really could hear players from an unnatural distance away. I think there was some changes needed for that. Do the majority of you disagree?

[vapid siren]

i found footsteps to be inconsistent to begin with

[zinc hatch]

Yeah I think the jumping sounds are super loud

[obsidian wyvern]

I just want some audio,I have nothing

[pulsar cobalt]

Yeah same

[vapid siren]

and im not doing any weird audio stuff here

[pulsar cobalt]

Footsteps 100% need to be upped abit

[vapid siren]

no extra software to mess it up or any weird routing

[vast venture]

Do y’all use mixamps, headphones? Just curious

[winter flame]

idek what you're saying but not really a good look falsely making out a pro like lucid is in any way responsible for audio being borked. Guy has done far more for Halo then you ever will.

[vapid siren]

as it stands its some nice IEMs plugged into my front panel 3.5mm

[pulsar cobalt]

I think your going into that abit much mate i just think he was just messing

[zinc hatch]

I ain't even heard of Lucid till now and I'm chronologically online, especially on Twitter where there's constant Pro player disputes

[vapid siren]

idk i think i've done a few things but go off

[obsidian wyvern]

uny loves listening to formal and lucid

[fickle drift]

how do you guys feel about Infinite's camo?

[vapid siren]

like i picked him cause i remember him talking about footsteps once and again i just wanted someone that wasnt spartan

its not that deep lemme have a cheeky jab

[obsidian wyvern]

he doesn't really do the online debates, he seems really chill

[vast venture]

I have a pair of BLON BL05 2nd Gen as my daily pocket headphones and an Audiotechnica M50x as my gaming headphones. What IEM’s are you using?

[winter flame]

i mean like i said its just fuelling a false narrative around the pros who play this game and dont wanna deal with crying halo fans blaming them for stuff all the time

[crude marsh]

the weekly rewards have been so good lately

[vapid siren]

im using Shure SE215s rn

bought em for worlds and love em

[obsidian wyvern]

it doesn't depend on your headset

[vapid siren]

there were known issues surrounding certain headsets/headphones actually

[obsidian wyvern]

I used to be able to hear footsteps perfectly before they essentially removed it

[vapid siren]

footsteps would actually be borked

[vast venture]

Awesome I’ll have to look into those!

[pulsar cobalt]

its a game issue not your headset

[vapid siren]

oh yeah it was a game issue, but it affected specific headsets is what im sayin

[elfin glacier]

I use a corsair headset with its bundled USB adapter

[vast venture]

I’m also running a Schiit Magni 3 as an amp for my pc.

[pulsar cobalt]

Oh right

[vapid siren]

a more analogue system like im using at least on paper should mean that doesnt pop up, as it was a lot of headsets with firmware and such

[elfin glacier]

Allow me to shed a negative tear for the bozos who get paid to play videogames

Boo hoo 😭

(The tears are being absorbed from the puddle)

[candid solar]

That's still so stupid. I'm actually mad about that.

@vapid siren What version of that word should I use for its intended purpose? I assume the bot doesn't care about caps-sensitive.

Because I did not mean it in the sense of the disease.

I mean in the sense of a literal boon to gamesense, not that it was bad.

[hard otter]

Like camo coatings or active camo? I like both
Kinda nutty that this is the first game to have camo patterns in it for armor

[candid solar]

It actually isn't.

Halo 4 and Halo 5 both had alternative armor color schemes with a camo pattern.

[tight remnant]

They shouldn’t be balancing the rest of the game over hcs. Also they should have non hcs ranked settings too.

[dreamy stirrup]

i can pardon that one, Trench.

[winter flame]

and there we have it, another halo fan brainwashed into thinking a pro is ruining his game... by a mod of the official 343 run discord

[fickle drift]

active camo

[dreamy stirrup]

but by and large it's used negatively

@winter flame Take a break.

Go outside.

Your negativity and attitude is getting nasty.

[vast venture]

It’s very strong. I think it’s perfect in its current state although camp flag pulls are annoying lol.

[tight remnant]

I still would wanna know what bandit starts would feel like though. Probably good.

[candid solar]

Thanks. I knew why that one happened, so I'm not really all that annoyed in the first place.

[tight remnant]

I’m good with bandit too

[candid solar]

It kinda just feels like Reach with a different health system.

[pulsar cobalt]

Have a cuppa tea recon18 and enjoy the rain haha

[candid solar]

It takes the same number of shots and encourages the sort of oddly short ranged fights as Reach.

[tight remnant]

Pretty sure it’d feel more like nerfed 5 over reach

[hard otter]

Perfect time to find out, really. Hop in a customs match and select bandits/sidekicks

[pearl laurel]

Halo 5 reference

[vapid siren]

i mean as someone who's hard of hearing and enjoys tactical gameplay the lack of footstep audio to me is both antithetical to accessible design and just not intuitive to having a game work on clear communication and attention to the environment

[vapid carbon]

no ones on h4 bruh

[hard otter]

Bandit is just the halo 5 magnun with a rifle transmog

[tight remnant]

I do tend to engage enemies when not at full health in btb with bandit because I know it’s likely I’ll miss less than them

[vapid carbon]

i need my weeklies

crying

[tight remnant]

There’s differences

[candid solar]

This. I actively loved that about early Infinite.

[fickle drift]

I swear we've already had DMR bandit starts in a few modes, haven't we?

[tight remnant]

BTB has bandit starts.

[vapid carbon]

^

[pulsar cobalt]

Bandit starts is real good tbh

[candid solar]

I mean I'm not hard of hearing, I can still hear it now, but it's just annoying to know why it got nerfed so hard.

[pulsar cobalt]

the gun is so satisfying to kill people with

[tight remnant]

I had issue with LSS footsteps

[candid solar]

Then again I'm also the absolute weirdo who has inadvertently memorized the pain sounds of pretty much every Spartan voice, so I know when an enemy has taken damage and I can't see them.

[vapid siren]

yeah in FFA modes the footsies issue gets really pronounced

[vapid carbon]

imo its the only weapon start that makes sense for btb

[vapid siren]

you get 3rd partied hard

[pulsar cobalt]

I hope 343 looks into the footstep audio because i can't really hear any haha

[tight remnant]

I remember when i tried to get those win streaks in LSS

[candid solar]

More than once I've ran into an unshielded injured opponent because I heard a pain sound from a voice nobody else on my team has.

[molten pelican]

I got meleed a few times by not hearing footsteps, very rare and only on certain maps

[vapid carbon]

thats just all ffas in all games tho, its literally the nature of ffa

if u wanna win you learn spawns and third party

[molten pelican]

yeah some games I get it muffled

[vapid siren]

with no footsteps it gets more annoying is the issue

[vapid carbon]

oh i see

[vapid siren]

cause you dont know when they're gonna swing so you cant react

[vapid carbon]

i mean u have radar

[tight remnant]

I always do remember two more things

[vapid carbon]

helps somewhat

[vapid siren]

and how is that fair if you cannot tell

[tight remnant]

The one about Spartans sabaton’s being made to be quiet and absorb noise

[fickle drift]

not in ranked (is there ranked FFA?)

[candid solar]

I think they should add the Grenade Launcher but make it fire one of two projectiles.

[vapid carbon]

theres no radar in ranked? wtf

[tight remnant]

And the one about Spartans being able to hear a pin drop in a sandstorm

[pulsar cobalt]

I've noticed since the update infinite feels way more responsive and quick

[candid solar]

Actually wait a second

[fickle drift]

so I've been told

[tight remnant]

Sadly there’s only hcs settings in ranked in infinite.

[vapid carbon]

dumb imo

[tight remnant]

I heavily disagree with that being the case

[candid solar]

That would be a good idea. Have one trigger load and fire a sticky det round that holds as long as you hold the trigger, and the other loads and fires a different round of some type, like a classic grenade launcher.

[fickle drift]

I don't play ranked bc I would feel bad winning all the time 😅

[vapid carbon]

same yea

[molten pelican]

is that a humble flex lol

[hasty zinc]

that was 35 seconds, not 1. I would like a refund on my time please

[elfin glacier]

I want sticky det as equipment

[tight remnant]

Weapon yes. Equipment no

[candid solar]

Would you accept some soup as an alternative

[tight remnant]

I miss the Railgun.

[fickle drift]

perhaps

[candid solar]

A railgun, but some madman threw a scope on it.

[vapid carbon]

railgun is pretty sick

[molten pelican]

why do spike grenades do like no damage on the ground

[vapid carbon]

wasnt it pretty broken tho

[vapid carbon]

cuz theyre not meant to be used that way?

[elfin glacier]

The reason i say equipment is cuz of the sticky det having the radar thing

[obsidian wyvern]

they're changing the damage to be more consistent

[vapid carbon]

nice

[candid solar]

TBH, the radar was always the worst part of Sticky Dets.

[molten pelican]

no you could throw a spike grenade right next to someone and they dont even drop shields

[tight remnant]

I thought the spikes weren’t very powerful to begin with

[candid solar]

I always thought that was poorly thought out and one of the worst parts of 4.

[vapid carbon]

right theyre best used indoors

[molten pelican]

they werent but they used to be more

[vapid carbon]

and sticking people directly

[molten pelican]

I dont think you understand 💀

[vapid carbon]

i do

theyre underpowered fs

but they have their cases where they work

[fickle drift]

just stick them on people's kneecaps

[molten pelican]

yeah like on a wall for some reason and direct hits to the body, but that doesnt happen in most cases

[vapid carbon]

yea

[molten pelican]

a good kneecapping hehe

[fickle drift]

yeah lol

[vapid carbon]

cap

[vast venture]

Hiding a sticky det in a shroud would be pretty funny

[molten pelican]

kneecap

[vapid carbon]

ive been searching for a match in h4 for like 20 mins

[vapid siren]

oh god lmao that'd be god tier. that and imagine having it show up on threat sensor

[molten pelican]

lmao

[balmy tundra]

So the stachion from the lore?

[pulsar cobalt]

I just want the CE flamethrower run around like a mad man and burn people haha

[tight remnant]

I like the shroud screen

[molten pelican]

i miss that thing

[candid solar]

No, the Railgun's way more compact. It'd be like a DMR (As in the literal term DMR, not the Halo one) variant of the Stanchion.

[vapid carbon]

do people just not play h4

[balmy tundra]

Ahh, understandable

Honestly, no idea why the railgun doesn’t have a scope, the pilum had one

[candid solar]

I could see it being a pretty common field modification of the Railgun tbh. Adding an optics rail instead of having to use a projection sight or having to do the secret Halo 4 trick.

The secret trick being to zoom in with your helmet's default zoom after you started charging.

[molten pelican]

railgun should have a scope tbh

[balmy tundra]

Yeah, you would assume something like that exists given the spirit of fire can produce special stachions. A DMR style railgun is totally doable pre 2558

After that things get tricky

[zinc hatch]

Wish we could get all the cool weapons like the SAW, Railgun, Fuel Rod, Brute Shot and Spiker back.
Instead we get a DMR without a scope.

[candid solar]

Eh. There's not much complexity to bolting a rail to a Railgun.

Drill four holes, fab a rail rig, slap an unpowered sight on it. EZPZ.

[balmy tundra]

I meant more rifle style railgun, not the heavy weapon type used in halo 4-5

[candid solar]

I know.

The Railgun is a rifle type weapon, the Gauss is the heavy.

[balmy tundra]

My brain just realized the gauss is not the railgun

This is what I get for sleeping 5 hours a night

[candid solar]

Though I'll always find it amusing that the Halo 5 Gauss Cannon turret has a purpose built middle trigger for a Spartan to use it

Props to that dude

(In reality it's because I'm pretty sure the gun's typically meant to be mounted on a far lower tripod and fired from a concealed low position)

[balmy tundra]

I mean, Spartans are for some reason a key part of UNSC military doctrine

[jovial heart]

gen

[balmy tundra]

They have to do things to work with Spartans

Even if logistically relying on like 1500 soldiers on a galactic?(how do you quantify a single arm of a galaxy?) scale

Is a bad idea

Note: the number of active Spartans is nebulous at best

[candid solar]

I ballpark estimate about 2000-3000 Spartans existing as of an hour before the Created Conflict tbh

Gamma Company wasn't wiped to a man and were dispersed, and they churned out IVs in larger and larger class sizes. They're also visibly being smart about training and sending back the seasoned IVs to train the noob IVs.

[balmy tundra]

I was going off batch one being like 6-800 ish people last I checked, and knowing 2 batches of S-IVs were confirmed

[candid solar]

Well, right now, our game Spartans would be at least the third.

I wager they're the seventh or eighth though.

[balmy tundra]

Yeah, I assumed halo infinite was the third class

[balmy tundra]

Though this makes more sense

It’s still way too few people for military strategy and all the different mjolnir developments

But like, it makes more sense than 1500 as I guessed

[pearl laurel]

Pneumonium

[candid solar]

That said, the cornerstone doctrine of the UNSC seems to be whatever works lmao we're broke as hell shock infantry with a meatgrinded infantry chaser in general supported by odd artillery, tanks, etc etc.

In space it seems more 'throw bodies at the problem but this time with railgun pickets everywhere'.

[balmy tundra]

Yeah, we see ODSTs and Spartans a lot for success, and not anything else tbh

[candid solar]

Spartans are a specialist tool, not a doctrinal centerpiece.

[balmy tundra]

Unless it’s heavy armor

[candid solar]

It just so happens that Spartans are also made to be good at pretty much everything conceivable first and specialized as a Spartan second, so.

[balmy tundra]

Hey, occasionally they have lasers!

[candid solar]

Well, now they do.

[balmy tundra]

Yeah, it’s just weird how much effort goes into black ops stuff imo. At least a lot of lore points towards mjolnir advancements trickling down to marines and ODSTs

[candid solar]

I will say, I do like the fact there's at least three IVs who specialize in useful things that a II or III wouldn't be at the same level for. Need more tbh.

[balmy tundra]

Yeah same

The IVs get too much flack

[candid solar]

(Spartan Tanaka is the only known certified MJOLNIR Engineer and Spartan, Spartan Vale is a former diplomat and ONI Agent, and Spartan Locke is a gifted ONI agent in terms of infogathering and presumably he's actually really good at setting up assassinations if they were seriously considering sending him after Thel.)

[balmy tundra]

Like, there are 4 different helmets meant for vehicle operation

At least 3 meant for odst drops

Like 8 info gatherers

[candid solar]

They usually differ in how they do those things

Or are different corporate attempts at the same end job

[balmy tundra]

I was simplifying to make a point

[dreamy gale]

Johnathan Halo

[tired wraith]

Jackie circumference

[balmy tundra]

Jim holy

[dreamy gale]

Gym hello

[tired wraith]

Jimmy rings

[balmy tundra]

we are getting career progression. The exact number of levels may or may not be from a leak

[pulsar cobalt]

we can't talk about leaks

[worthy abyss]

i just did

👀

[pulsar cobalt]

well your comment will most likely get deleted just saying

[fossil skiff]

Finally got around to finishing this today

[vagrant sable]

Nice

[smoky token]

now LASO it

[fossil skiff]

Honestly might try in December

[pliant hatch]

a lot of the missions aren't that bad on laso.

[candid solar]

Someone noted how good my autogun was in Darktide because I kept oneshotting things and I am happy about it

[forest breach]

https://tenor.com/view/dreamybull-dreamy-bull-creamybull-creamy-dreamy-gif-26548588

[terse linden]

do u guys no how to save maps?

[feral chasm]

Are you able to just straight up buy the mark VII knife chestpiece?

[obsidian wyvern]

yes

[feral chasm]

cool

[obsidian wyvern]

well theres a catch

you have to buy the bundle it was part of

[feral chasm]

bundle right?

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah

[terse linden]

i donno im new to xbox an halo tbh

[obsidian wyvern]

like a custom map?

[feral chasm]

not a big deal, I actually already owned it but my dad wants it super bad and can finally get it

[terse linden]

yea

[feral chasm]

its kind of weird though, apparently you cant just up and buy all the coatings though

like my friend isnt able to buy the scarlet wake coating

it doesnt even show up as an option

[obsidian wyvern]

ok i dont have it in front of me so i may not be right, but i believe you go to the community tab, go to theater and press x on the map you played, there should be an option there to view the map and save it

[obsidian wyvern]

its only s1 and s2 items i think

[terse linden]

ok thx ima try it rn

[feral chasm]

im pretty sure scarlet wake came out like season 1

it was one of the first coatings in the shop

[bronze breach]

anyone get incompatible driver error since the latest update

[feral chasm]

it was basically cadet red, but they changed how it looked to be more metallic and silverish red

because they later added cadet red

i wonder if they will ever add any of the old promotion stuff back like granular/monarch

i would think not but they added the monster stuff back so idk

i always thought monarch was cool because of the purple with hints of gold

[obsidian wyvern]

its not really gold

its more like brown

[feral chasm]

yeah

red shift is dope af

especially the new version

[obsidian wyvern]

this one is more gold but i forgot the name

[feral chasm]

isnt it like royal something?

[obsidian wyvern]

maybeee

lemme check

[feral chasm]

ohhh nvm its violent gunpowder

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah

[feral chasm]

wall breacher is fire too

[obsidian wyvern]

idk the random green kinda ruins it but its not too apparent

[feral chasm]

yeah

i wish they hadnt re-released willow tea

it would have been cool since it was like the first weekly

unless im remembering wrong

[obsidian wyvern]

i think it is

[feral chasm]

red shift actually used to be the rarest coating before they re-released it in december of 2021

[pulsar cobalt]

red shift is still really rare

[feral chasm]

i believe the rarest from most to least is like granular>monarch>action block>red shift> wall breacher

not including watchdog cuz thats different

[bronze breach]

for goodness sake 10 minutes in and infinite not loading

[terse linden]

were the community tab?

[obsidian wyvern]

between customisation and shop

[elfin glacier]

@obsidian wyvern

[terse linden]

thx

[obsidian wyvern]

i just had this problem and gave up

[obsidian wyvern]

@elfin glacier

[bronze breach]

services down?

[elfin glacier]

Wanna know unyshek's favorite drink?

[obsidian wyvern]

AC?

[elfin glacier]

Punch

[obsidian wyvern]

nice one lol

[turbid lichen]

Anyone play really awful sometimes after yesterday beening so good. So inconsistent today

[feral chasm]

I want them to add the mark IV helmet, its by far my favorite