halo-discussion

[umbral kettle]

imagine duel wielding sentinel beams in halo 5 BTB

[humble widget]

So baller but so broken

[wanton root]

343 did canonise both though

[humble widget]

I think people were just mad that people like Kat died needless deaths but that was the point they were trying to get across about how much of a tragedy Reach was. They even set up the conditions in the scene before she got domed

[umbral kettle]

I feel like halo infinites lacking 2 things

[humble widget]

The argument at the time was people didn't get enough time to establish themselves with the characters

[umbral kettle]

firefight and more F2P rewards

[grave ether]

"Needled death"
Fixed that for you

[humble widget]

[umbral kettle]

how many infinities do you think it would have taken to save reach

[grave ether]

[umbral kettle]

LMAO

[scarlet flame]

Reach campaign was so good. Partly because it showed how dire the entire situation was. I loved that everyone dies.

[umbral kettle]

personally with a full spartan 4 load out and all stuff stocked maybe around 5 after long night of solace was destroyed

[humble widget]

I never hated on the Reach campaign myself. I understood the lesson perfectly even if I didn't have the words for it. I was 14 back then so yknow 🤷‍♂️

[umbral kettle]

i remember inviting my friends to play on my new xbox during middle school

was so fun

should invite them back for halo infinite

someday

[humble widget]

My only issue with Reach back then and still to this day was how bloom was implemented. I think it went against the idea of 'if you practice hard you can get better over time'

[umbral kettle]

Halo is probably one of the highest skill shooters if you want to play it well

it’s not spray and pray like COD

[humble widget]

Well Halo is an arena shooter and CoD has always been more of an arcade shooter

[umbral kettle]

I keep seeing esports players casually getting killionaires with snipers and shock rifles

[humble widget]

Different sandboxes, so it's unfair to contrast them when they work differently

[umbral kettle]

and there’s also the fact that halo players have much more health than other shooters because of their armor

[humble widget]

They're top percenters so they make the insane look casual on a given day

[umbral kettle]

yeah

[humble widget]

Like their career is to be the peak user in that lobby and they play it day in day out to remain at the top of their game

[umbral kettle]

imagine being a halo pro player and having your main weapon get nerfed like 7 times

[humble widget]

Granted its not translatable long term, as they'll slow and dull as they age, but they'll still outperform hardcore players by a large margin even if they're not pro anymore

Like you can't say walshy wouldn't body the average onyx tier player

[umbral kettle]

there is a massive skill gap between hardcore players and noobs

like i could go into a lobby and go 42:0 or go 2:37

(exaggeration)

[humble widget]

Yeah I got 2 back to back perfections but I chalked it up to being an easy lobby and having tactical advantages, I targeted their smarter players and stayed on top of them and made myself untouchable. Against a coordinated team I'd never be able to do that

[umbral kettle]

even in onyx sometimes you wonder “How is this guy not in the tutorial still”

[humble widget]

Even ranked is still a toincoss because I can do amazing and carry the team one day and then on another I'm questioning my ability to play because of how much of a burden I am for my team

Like I did my placement games for this season for 4v4 and 2v2 and ranked plat in both so I know I've got something going for me still at least

[umbral kettle]

one time i went like 8:23 in a swat game because all of my enemies were hardcore sweats

every time i spawned i would get headshotted immediately

[humble widget]

That's arguably an unfair advantage. If you can manipulate spawn to put someone exactly where you expect to be that is a major map issue

[umbral kettle]

yeah

[humble widget]

You're not learning anything from that loss aside from 'don't die at all'

[umbral kettle]

some maps are broken in specific game modes

like breaker CTF used to be practically unplayable if you were unlucky

[umbral kettle]

what’s your favorite game mode?

[humble widget]

Territories

[scarlet flame]

swat and slayer for me

[humble widget]

Constant movement, constant fighting, a lot to learn and the main victory condition is expert map awareness and control of guns and gear

[umbral kettle]

map awareness is arguably the most useful skill to have

besides common shooter knowledge ofc

[humble widget]

Oops forgot the filter is a bit more tuned in

[umbral kettle]

if you know a map better than your opponent you can manipulate and ambush them

[humble widget]

You can perform badly but if you can contribute to stealing points away from the enemy team such as grabbing one of their spots in a place they can't easily reach, that's at least learning one aspect of map control

[umbral kettle]

swat is really fun

but it’s not for when you just lost 8 ranked games and want to relax

that’s where bts comes in

[humble widget]

Swat is what you'd want as a warm up to ranked rather than after

[umbral kettle]

yeah

bts is so fun tho because it’s always going to be a mix of noobs and pros and it’s sometimes a challenge but you don’t have to pay too much attention

and the arcane sentinel beam is SO fun to melt people with

[humble widget]

Bts is what I play if I just wanna be dumb or get my frustrations out lmao

[umbral kettle]

yeah

[humble widget]

Better to shout at my screen over some meticulous bs than lose it in the middle of a tight game of oddball.

[umbral kettle]

and i’m VERY frustrated after going from onyx to platinum

what’s your favorite map

[humble widget]

Map and game mode dependant

The training grounds is best for territories IMO.
Streets is the best for Oddbal.
I hate that factory one for objective, its better as a slayer Map
Aquarius is the best flag Map hand down.

[umbral kettle]

catalyst is a really good ctf map too

[humble widget]

Catalyst is that forerunner one right? With the catwalk in the middle?

[umbral kettle]

yeah

the blue one

[humble widget]

Good map yeah

[umbral kettle]

is there a catwalk in the middle? i forgot

[humble widget]

I'm only back about a week so I don't know much of the newer maps yet

What's that one infection seems to go on

The one with one flag as a game mode

[umbral kettle]

uhhh i forgot

[humble widget]

The stone one

[umbral kettle]

haven’t played infinite in like a month since i’m visiting family

it’s currently midnight here

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Yeah fair lmao its only about to go 5pm here

[umbral kettle]

oh cool what country u live in

[humble widget]

Ireland lmao

Bored at work so I'm killing time

[umbral kettle]

cool

I have a scottish friend on xbox

[umbral kettle]

wait im garbage at geography

so the UK is northern ireland wales scotland and england right

so you’re not a part of the UK

[humble widget]

Bingo

[umbral kettle]

Okay got it

lying in bed thinking about how lonely my dog is back in canada

poor doggo

[umbral kettle]

uhh

another lore question

how would someone like the arbiter compare to atriox or master chief

[humble widget]

The arbiter is on equal ground to Chief both in skill and strength. Chief lost in a hand to hand to atriox so it wouldn't surprise me if arbiter also got a hiding too

[umbral kettle]

What individuals could overpower atriox

in your opinion

[humble widget]

Again it always depends on who they're going against and the setting behind it

A hunter team would easily obliterate atriox

[umbral kettle]

uhh

setting is in a arena style match

i would say one hunter captain could obliterate atriox

[humble widget]

Atriox is cast type as the exception to all Brutes and the paragon example of what a Brute could be. Its a very high position starting off.

It's why we joke about him literally being built different

[umbral kettle]

how many atrioxes would you say it would take to take down the ur didact

[humble widget]

Ur didact has his star wars force powers bs but Chief was shown to be able to resist it. I'd say atriox could go one to one with him and only be pressured a little.

[umbral kettle]

but the didact was just toying with him wasn’t he?

also i’m pretty tired it’s 12:05 am goodnight

[humble widget]

Goodnight hahah, and yes he was to showcase how 'superior' he was over the chief

[white birch]

I meant more in the case that its got video games and lore.

Also, the Banished basically turbo-monkey'd it.
Their "boarding actions" consisted of ramming entire ships into Infinity's hull, and letting the survivors swarm out as assault troops like they were 40k Orks.

[humble widget]

Worked for Spartan ops campaign I don't see how it wouldn't have worked for atrioxs forces

[vocal latch]

i dont know where else to post this question but does anyone know how to remove the gunst from a ghost or at least make them do much less damage in forge

[river path]

I have two favorite halo weapons and it’s the didactic weapons and the type 25 carbine

[inland lance]

apparently the dreadnoughts have a gravity hammer-esque ramming ability

[dapper hull]

Infinite is a really bad HALO game

I know alot of you might disagree but the BUNGIE part of HALO games cannot be beaten. No matter how hard 343 tries, they will noit succeed. Maybe try to have a sequel to H3ODST. Alot of people have been asking for another ODST game without mods and such. But as I stated earlier. Infinite sucks. They added forge a month later, campain was absalute trash. They made Chief have more emotion and such. Its so bad. Nobody wants a game like that. Its bassicly unplayable MCC even has more people playin it than INFINITE. Cmon 343 and actually try to make a good HALO game. Try to refine what BUNGIE did a bit wrong (even tho BUNGIE did nothing wrong with the HALO games). Good luck what BUNGIE left and wanted to be left alone

[river path]

It could have been worse they could have had a battle royale

[dapper hull]

Fr

[dapper hull]

REACH DMR and all of ODST Weapons

[crystal iron]

Tbh 343’s halo isn’t that bad. Halo infinite campaign was pretty good and I don’t have any problem with master chief having more emotions lol. Multiplayer is really good and gameplay is just great.

[ruby knoll]

is this satire

@onyx latch help

[dapper hull]

Its so bad tho. Why make Chief more human when BUNGIE understood. They wanted us to be the Chief in the first place but with the later BUNGIE games, they had gave Chief more personality.

[ruby knoll]

also MCC doesn't have more players

not even top50 on xbox

[green oar]

It's because Bungie hated the books and didn't want Chief to be like he was in them. MC has a number of personal moments in The Fall of Reach (which released before Combat Evolved), showing that he'll go out of his way to save everyone he possibly can in a situation. He's not exactly talkative, but the amount of dialogue they gave him in the games vs how he is in the books was actually majorly different and his H4/Infinite appearances are far more accurate to how he is in the books.

If you want more examples of Bungie's writers detesting the book lore, just look at how many ways Halo Reach contradicts The Fall of Reach. They gave Spartan-IIIs MJOLNIR, had a Spartan-II in a squad of IIIs, completely obliterated the dates of everything, Cortana was already with Chief and didn't need to be delivered to the Autumn, etc. It took the fandom making several creative retcons for Bungie's sake to try and make sense of everything.

[crystal iron]

I’m confused by this reply. First you are saying that chief shouldn’t have much of personality, then you are okay with master chief having more personality(btw with personality comes emotions) and at the same time you have problem with master chief having emotions

[coarse dagger]

... They made Chief have more emotion and such. Its so bad. Nobody wants a game like that...
I do

[smoky wave]

Too much text

[south badge]

I think Halo books are bargain bin, bottom of the barrel sci fi content and Bungie had every right to hate them

Just an opinion, but these games are better when you look at them as just that, games.

[humble widget]

I am getting unilaterally clapped by this bot goodness

[crystal iron]

shout out to halo infinite for sending me to a 500ms, 2-1, capture the flag match where one my teammates is a bot

[ruby knoll]

mucho texto

anyways time to reread shadows of reach

[smoky wave]

So true

[ruby knoll]

lol ok

bungie hated the books because they were petulant and didn't want to share their toys with anyone else

despite the fact they agreed to do so and also despite the fact that without the book authors, CE wouldn't have had a script

[lean prism]

Who likes this idea https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1138539021837029427

[smoky wave]

Eh, could be cool

[onyx latch]

I'm at work, someone being a weirdo isn't my problem

I do, in fact, have things to do, despite my detractors thinking I no life this stuff, lmao

[ruby knoll]

hmmm

[uneven bison]

You have the funny replies though

[crystal iron]

"they added forge a month later" more like a year later

[dapper hull]

oh

Right

[crystal iron]

yep, way worse

[lusty wraith]

This “343i baaaad” “nuh uh Bungie baaaad” stuff is honestly pathetic all I gotta say

[crystal iron]

both have good games and bad games

bungie's bad games were destiny, 343's bad games were halo

its as simple as that

I have to clarify that this is irony, before I get warned for "non constructive criticism"

except for the destiny part, zero irony there

[clear ravine]

Unarmed melee combat make it happen

[humble widget]

i like the new gloves

[grim citrus]

Lol. Wow.

[naive reef]

Is anyone have same thought that halo infinite got Bionicle/Power ranger skins? I kinda like it, but I would love to see some sci fi military skins

[humble widget]

Trick question, they're both in a state of bad and currently Halo despite having a very bad launch is currently doing better currently

I'd even argue halo is starting to rise as a result

[naive reef]

oh and the new BR75 is awesome skin, looks like robocop gun

[low musk]

The free Arbiter's Guard skin is also nice

[devout kite]

Do we know what time the update coming out tomorrow?

[crystal iron]

I assume that it will come out with daily reset

[coarse dagger]

Via HaloSupport
https://twitter.com/HaloSupport/status/1689010573302960130

Alongside today's Halo Infinite playlist refresh at 11am PT, the team deployed a backend update with the following map improvements:
• Weapon spawns on Catalyst have been adjusted and, as a result, it has been re-added to the Ranked Arena matchmaking playlist.
• Plasma Grenades will no longer become stuck in the Gravity Lift on Solitude.
• Weapons dropped in the Elevator area on the map Empyrean can now be picked up consistently.

Additionally, the team has made the following changes to the playlist system:
• Playlist descriptions and names have been adjusted to better reflect their included maps and modes.
• The order of the playlists on the Multiplayer menu has also been adjusted to provide a more consistent layout week-to-week.
• Squad Battle is now a staple playlist, meaning it will not be removed from matchmaking.
• There are now five rotational playlists every week, one for each of the following categories: Big Team Battle, Arena, Ranked, Doubles, and Free-For-All.

If you're currently playing, relaunch to see the changes in-game. Submit a ticket at aka.ms/HaloSupport if you're still experiencing any of these issues after relaunching.

[radiant sundial]

i really want to know what is wrong with having a battle royale mode in halo

its not like the entire game would have been a battle royale, its not fortnite

[river path]

I think it’s the fact that dr disrespect said it I believe

[radiant sundial]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

idk, if its done right (i dont mean that mode in S2 that was fricking terrible) id like to try out a battle royale mode

[crystal iron]

Tbh halo battle royale could be interesting

Maybe they could even make it about ODSTs lol

Drop pods would work really good with the idea of battle royale I think

[green oar]

Infinite already struggled with consistent content updates and 343 just lost 100+ staff members, dividing them up even more would absolutely make Infinite updates even more rare

If it was outsourced idk if most would care

[onyx latch]

Uh... Not really? We've gotten quite a few GRITTY DARK AND GRITTY MILSIM skins.

For Mark VII alone we've gotten 44 coatings that could be considered drab and militaristic without any flare, four of which you get for free.

[robust drum]

Anyone know if you can alter the HMG/Chaingun to have forced first person perspective in Infinite?

[low musk]

Ever since Halo 3, any 'heavy' weapon type like that has always been 3rd person. Its very unlikely they would ever add a First person perspective to it

[south badge]

market oversaturation and confirms the statement that 343 continues to chase trends instead of developing a quality product associated with the brand

same reason why Bungie is getting blown the honk out over their "Marathon" reboot being a PVPVE Extraction Shooter

[robust drum]

I meant with the properties for it or perhaps a script brain system for it.

[ruby knoll]

"chase trends"

[south badge]

oh I forgot you're one of those blind bootlickers aren't you

"It's not chasing trends because the box says HALO on it man"

[analog salmon]

I don’t think the problem with halo is that it’s chasing trends. it has followed some trends for sure but imo the problem is not the idea itself (eg open world)

And so many trends halo “followed” have added a ton to the experience

[ruby knoll]

someone's mad

[ruby knoll]

things i never said

[radiant sundial]

but what is wrong with a battle royale game mode. you still havent answered the question

[ruby knoll]

it's "not halo" (whatever that means)

[radiant sundial]

its just sad how people act sometimes

most of the time its funny but it just gets sad

[ruby knoll]

i'm on the fence about a BR. I don't actively want one, but I'm not opposed to it being added. I'd give it a shot

[full warren]

ok whatever they did with match making has ruined it, I am getting 50/25 slayer games

[ruby knoll]

i don't think it needs one but it wouldn't hurt if it had one

[full warren]

its so bad how my team mates cant even get more than 3 kills in a whole game

[radiant sundial]

:|

[radiant sundial]

as long as it aint like that ffa gun game type mode from s2

[ruby knoll]

i didn't mind LSS. Could use tweaks tho

[radiant sundial]

the one on the btb maps

meh

[ruby knoll]

maybe it needs dedicated maps

[radiant sundial]

it might just be my lack of experience at that point in time

that too

[surreal ingot]

Will Recon slayer ever be back??? Is so much fun

[full warren]

lol game just put me in a 125ping game all 3 of my team insta quit, so i did too, game over in 40 seconds.... I don't think any of us were in that region, it literally put all of us in a 125ping game vs people on low ping

[onyx latch]

"Bootlickers"

Grow the hell up.

It's a video game, not a social movement.

[radiant sundial]

^

[onyx latch]

I'm honestly just losing patience with degenerate comments like that.

If you don't like Halo anymore and would rather antagonize people who do than just get with the program and fly straight or just chill the hell out, then get the hell out. You aren't wanted by anyone with an attitude worth caring about.

Like, I'd say that's being too aggressive or too blunt, but that's like saying pacifism through peace is more sustainable than pacifism through force.

[deft jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/uhhhhh-gif-18728531

[onyx latch]

embed fail

[ruby knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/sex-gif-19524162

god i hate that animation. Not cuz 'cringe' or whatever there's just something unsettling about the movements

[radiant sundial]

or maybe the fact that chief is simply staring into your soul?

[ruby knoll]

that too

[radiant sundial]

but yeah the gut movement is a bit jarring

[rugged quartz]

I tried recording myself in my master chief costume flossing but I didn't end up posting it

[radiant sundial]

ngl i would do this just to irk out my friends

(sorry for ping i forgot to turn it off)

i dont think my halloween costume fits anymore though sadly

[rugged quartz]

@rugged quartz
You grew since then I guess?

[sturdy coral]

god the servers are horrible

constant american servers when I'm in Australia. like Blam! me sideways can 343 get their act together with matchmaking? the game is genuinely unplayable

[umbral kettle]

Can barely play CE because of the lag

[sturdy coral]

i can already hear the messages saying 'it's just a low population in your area...blah blah blah'....THATS NOT THE ISSUE. it's how you groupd those players together and throw them in ONLY US servers. not once do they pull host, not once is it an aussie server.

[umbral kettle]

guys

imagine when we colonize the moon or mars

and then we’ll sometimes have to play on the MARS servers

[sturdy coral]

bro

[umbral kettle]

be prepared for that

[sturdy coral]

that wont happen. the servers lick clean the boots of US players so even if you are on Mars you'd get US servers lmao

cause Merica #1

[umbral kettle]

true lol

[onyx latch]

Might want to try getting more aussies on your side for playing. there isn't much that a non Aussie company can do if there's nobody to support your plays.

[sturdy coral]

I legit called it

"oh its just low population blah blah"

[onyx latch]

It literally is for oceanic.

[crystal iron]

Isn’t it because halo is literally dead in Australia?

[sturdy coral]

disagree.

[umbral kettle]

Well i mean

[onyx latch]

You can disagree all you want, it's not a matter of opinion.

[sturdy coral]

i always find theh lobby is filled with aussies just thrown in US servers

[umbral kettle]

you’re looking at a halo player in australia so obviously no

[sturdy coral]

and GUESS WHAT. MAYBE THATS WHY THEY ALL LEFT

[onyx latch]

Because Autralians inherently have bad taste?

[umbral kettle]

LMAOO

[sturdy coral]

what?

[crystal iron]

Lol

[onyx latch]

I didn't stutter ;3

[sturdy coral]

I'm saying that Aussies left cause ever since LAUNCH. THE LAUNCH OF THIS GAME have we been thrown into US servers

[onyx latch]

Yes, Halo is primarily a US dominated fanbase.

[sturdy coral]

do it enough time and (shocker) your playerbase leaves

[onyx latch]

This is a known quality.

[umbral kettle]

I think they should make a couple servers in oceania but they don’t have unlimited money

[crystal iron]

US, then Europe then rest of the world lol. Well, at least I live in quite populated region lol

[umbral kettle]

they still have to focus on where the money will be spent most wisely

[onyx latch]

My brother of the rings, you're complaining about a regional issue that can really only be solved by increasing regional awareness of the problem.

[sturdy coral]

so outside US players should get shafted by servers? yet again the 'Merica #1 problem arises

[umbral kettle]

why make a server in a place where only 200 people play when you could make one where 2000 people can play?

[onyx latch]

Not what I said.

[young glen]

Aussies say this about nearly every game. It's difficult to accomodate Oceania players for most games with low ping and short queue times.

[sturdy coral]

why not do both? it's not hard lmao

[umbral kettle]

money problems

[sturdy coral]

apex does it great

[crystal iron]

Because it’s not profitable

[umbral kettle]

servers are expensive

[onyx latch]

Don't put words in my mouth. I'm explaining your issue. I'll only think you deserve your plight if you whine as much as you are.

[sturdy coral]

ITS MICROSOFT. bruh. they just spend what 71 BILLLLLION

[onyx latch]

I'd love to be polite, but it's easy not to be when you whine.

[sturdy coral]

money is NOT the issue here lmao

[crystal iron]

On something that will turn them profit

[young glen]

Without taking a look at current charts, I imagine Apex is a much bigger game than Infinite on all platforms right now. You have more people to work with.

[onyx latch]

Nevermind, you're clearly not to be reasoned with.

[umbral kettle]

Microsoft doesn’t have unlimited money and Halo isn’t their biggest interest

[onyx latch]

I'll stop wasting my time.

[sturdy coral]

do you understand how much money 71 billion is?

[crystal iron]

Do you understand how much servers cost?

[umbral kettle]

Do you understand how much microsoft has to fund?

[onyx latch]

Do you understand how little Microsoft cares about its non video game divisions?

[umbral kettle]

They have all the other xbox games to worry about

[onyx latch]

(It cares more about them than not)

[crystal iron]

Making servers in region in which not many people will play is not profitable

[sturdy coral]

man, those boots must taste nice

[umbral kettle]

A companies purpose is to turn a profit

[crystal iron]

Excuse me?

[onyx latch]

Why is it always this with you degens?

My god, come up with a more fitting insult.

[coarse dagger]

Keep it civil. If you can't, take a walk

[young glen]

With all due respect, I think most of us understand your situation... it's just... a geography issue, dude. Australia is isolated, you need HUGE games like Fortnite and Apex to get quality matches like the US do in 99% of games.

[umbral kettle]

I think when halo was in its prime it might have been able to fund for more servers

but this is definitely not prime

[sturdy coral]

I'd be less frustrated if it wasnt an issue since launch. The game simply prioritises US servers every time even if there are heaps of Oceania players in the lobby

[umbral kettle]

Because the US is top priority to them

It’s where their servers will be most profitable

[crystal iron]

From my experience it doesn’t tbh. I almost always get matches on European servers

Don’t think that there’s something like "server priority"

[umbral kettle]

Australia simply isn’t of high priority to microsoft

[crystal iron]

Yep

[sturdy coral]

yes, I understand the US is their top priority but it seems to be their only priority. by not helping or throwing a bone to international players 343 actively stick the finger at those players and they leave. which in turn, shrinks an already small population in a game

[quasi finch]

A lot but not nearly that much

[onyx latch]

You're attributing way too much personal insult to this.

[sturdy coral]

All my mates have left this game due to constant 200 ping servers.

[umbral kettle]

Servers are exceedingly expensive

especially when halo isn’t your biggest moneymaker

[quasi finch]

Not really, there are decent servers in other regions but people just don’t really play I guess.

[umbral kettle]

like the EU has decent servers

and so does some parts of asia

it’s just that australia won’t turn a large profit if they decided to invest in servers in that region

[onyx latch]

And most of Oceanic servers is, guess what

Not aussie

[quasi finch]

The point is if they realized releasing the game with much more features then it would’ve broke even by a lot

[sturdy coral]

not everything needs to be a large profit man.

[umbral kettle]

yes it does

Profit is everything when it comes to games

[crystal iron]

Yeah, it’s not like we don’t want you to enjoy halo or anything. We just know how world works

[umbral kettle]

Otherwise there would be no point to spending money

in game design

[onyx latch]

^ Best way to put it.

[crystal iron]

Actually it does. Literally that’s the point of making video games

[onyx latch]

Only hostility present is dislike of unreasonable perspectives.

[quasi finch]

That made sense but didn’t at the same time. What are you trying to get at?

[umbral kettle]

Exactly, games are supposed to be fun but money is still the most important asset in society

so you need to earn it back

and turn a profit

[crystal iron]

Yeah

[umbral kettle]

343 already poured tons of funds into infinite

[sturdy coral]

again, all I hear is if the game is not raking in boat loads of money that region should recieve 0 supporyt

[umbral kettle]

yes

[crystal iron]

Because that’s how it is

[onyx latch]

Most people here that are engaging in this conversation dislike an unreasonable perspective of anthropomorphizing 343i's alleged dislike of the Australian content base on an economic grounds.

[sturdy coral]

and you create fun by making fun experiences where players then spend money

[onyx latch]

When it's simply a population and reliability issue.

[sturdy coral]

it's only like that because of corporate greed.

[umbral kettle]

putting their servers in the US creates the most fun for the general population

because that’s where most players are

[sturdy coral]

only the general population should have fun it seems.

[umbral kettle]

Earning and conserving money is much different from corporal greed buddy

[crystal iron]

No one ever said anything like that

[umbral kettle]

if that’s what’s profitable, yep.

[sturdy coral]

if you use that perspective the outer groups fizzle away over and over until there is nothing left but a tiny and consistant fanbase

which is exactly how Halo is at the moment

[umbral kettle]

That tiny and consistent fan base is profitable

[sturdy coral]

actually nuturing and keeping those fringe groups happy keeps the game growing in those areas and brings in more and more players

[onyx latch]

Then maybe you should try to endeavor to make the Australian fanbase more dedicated instead of broadcasting negativity.

[sturdy coral]

I've tried since launch.

[onyx latch]

I'm sure it would be more helpful than spamming here about how angry you are.

[sturdy coral]

you need support from the game devs themselves to actually have something happen

[onyx latch]

Fun fact.

It's easier to do that when you help yourselves even a little bit.

[crystal iron]

Just try getting your friends or communities into halo lol. Best way to show that there’s an interest in this region

[onyx latch]

^

[sturdy coral]

as I said. I do all the time

[sturdy coral]

and when I do they are met with constant US servers and leave quickly as lag is unfun, unplayable and kills any desire to play this game

[onyx latch]

I always love discussing network issues for Infinite tbh

[crystal iron]

Oh well, try turning on local matchmaking

[umbral kettle]

try harder

[onyx latch]

Managing to make it work on sub 120 ping on middle eastern military base servers through a VPN is my crowning achievement really.

[sturdy coral]

MintBlitz, Australia's largest Aussie youtuber, has repeatedly brought up server issues and nothing changes.

[onyx latch]

What a low starting point that is.

[umbral kettle]

which is what matters

[crystal iron]

YouTuber bringing up problems won’t change the world unfortunately

[umbral kettle]

You probably don’t have many friends to convince

[onyx latch]

Jesus, you didn't have to murder the man.

[crystal iron]

Yeah lol

[sturdy coral]

the friends I have brought in, are both die hard Halo fans and casuals and each time they leave due to servers.

[crystal iron]

How many times did I hear something like that today?

[sturdy coral]

almost as if its a common occurence yet the issue is ignored because only America matter?

...typical tbh

[umbral kettle]

No, America is just most profitable

[sturdy coral]

it's not profitable so kick em out!

[onyx latch]

You know what, if it makes you happy for the sake of arguing, yes.

[crystal iron]

I don’t know if continuing this discussion makes any sense. It starts going in circles

[onyx latch]

Kick all Aussies out of Halo.

Be gone. Go away. if this is all you're gonna do.

Obviously, punishment is the only language understood here.

I'm out of patience. You won't listen.

[umbral kettle]

When are you going to actually convince your friends and stop whining

[umbral kettle]

keep the chill ones

unlike this man

[cunning oyster]

I say we do what SWTOR did, and expel our cancerous portion of the community.

[onyx latch]

That's a loaded desire.

[sturdy coral]

🇺🇸 #1

[coarse dagger]

Time to move on now

https://vxtwitter.com/Halo/status/1688976571527270401?t=JOHW00-bGQYc6DpWHGOhWQ&s=19

[solemn needle]

Ngl, that’s pretty cold 😭🔥

[versed finch]

Is the time clock on the Shop menu in Halo Infinite just for when it counts the next “day”? I don’t want to miss out on the Neon stuff

[umbral kettle]

good idea

so, what’s your favorite map in infinite?

personally i like streets because it’s so compact and Highpower/deadlock because of the ton of vehicles

[sour marlin]

Can anyone purchase anything in the shop right now on Infinite? Game wont redirect me to the steam site to do so.

[solemn needle]

Either live fire or recharge for me

[thin elm]

I loveee cliff wutever, the snowy one

[umbral kettle]

cliffhanger? that ones fun for escalation

[ivory glacier]

Catalyst is different now with weapons. Anything else different

[celest heron]

ugh, first game and I get some afk loser who's doing it on purpose.

[uneven bison]

Mcc, I guess?

[celest heron]

infinite. he would move positions every once in awhile to not get booted

[uneven bison]

Ugh, that’s worse.

Probably just on his phone

I see people do it all the time, they get into an argument or something, queue up (for some reason) and then goof around and mess up everything.

[low musk]

I like SCARR quite a bit on BTB, it’s so chaotically fun since it’s not quite as focused on the arena shooter design

[raven pier]

I can never remember with this game
Can Event BPs be ranked up with raw XP or are Challenges the ONLY way?

[stone star]

Haven't checked yet, what's the event gamemode?

[cedar stone]

I'm looking at it, challenges only

[lean prism]

If you are a fan of this idea please pass the word. I would really appreciate it. I want this in game https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1138539021837029427

[raven pier]

Lame as hell -_-
Thanks tho

[left snow]

I've knocked off 5 without even looking at it. In about 4 games.

And the next five on my list are a kill with a power weapon, a kill with a shock weapon, five kills with a hardlight weapon, and then 30 kills or assists.

The only "lame" thing about it is that it's barely a challenge.

[queen granite]

whats the ultimate reward coating for?

[loud brook]

sniper

kinda wish weekly rewards were a little bit more unique then charms or weapon coatings

[queen granite]

yeah

[celest heron]

win 3 games always turns into playing 15 just to get 3 wins. ugh, can I just win one game please

[onyx wasp]

[serene furnace]

I guess you have noticed by now that when you select the game list of any playlist in Infinite it shows the maps and gamemodes in complete disorder, and as a result you end up seeing the same map while browsing with different gamemodes

Really wish they make it more organized like in MCC

[ebon lava]

when its a challenge people complain 343 won't let them enjoy the game their way and still win prizes

when its built to appease people into playing how they want the challenge disappears

it sucks but its a hard dilemma to get out of

I know I'd personally rather get the charms and coatings and whatnot while enjoying the game doing what I want than enduring a gamemode I don't like

[white birch]

Its not just 343. Lot of games are doing that now.
Battlefield 2042 was the same way more or less. All the really difficult "challanges" are for unlocking weapons and half of those are just about getting lucky and hoping the enemy team is incompetent enough to give you a chance.

[umbral kettle]

I think it would be really really cool if we could get like a lore accurate pvp battle

or at least like it takes inspiration from the lore

like one side could be elites and brutes and the other could be marines and ODSTs

and they could have different weapons and health and stats

and the challenges could unlock stronger characters like hunters or cyclopses

[raven pier]

Good for you?
Challenges are lame
I want to rank up any progression avenue w/ raw XP
It's especially stupid when those exact challenges you mention come up
The hilarious part is that not every map and mode features shock and hardlight weapons
I'll never not scratch my head at the weird design choices w/ Halo Infinite

[white birch]

Just play Fiesta then

[left snow]

Meh. You have 14 days to do it. A whole bunch of new "challenges" next week. A semi-regular player would pretty much have to go out of their way to deliberately not complete the event.

[left snow]

I do agree that the challenges need to be available in pretty much any game you choose to play. Focus on results, kills, assists, (fewer) deaths, damage, player score, medals, etc.

But then, make them an actual challenge.

[sonic pollen]

When I try to play Co-op campaign online it says "error retrieving data centre connection quality information. Please try again later" is there a fix for this, or at least a known cause?

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[livid fable]

my settings are still resetting, and i'm on a pc. XD

the challenge arguments will continue until the stated purpose of challenges can be agreed upon.

[livid fable]

yeah, let's agree to not analyze some of those design decisions. we're only supposed to be constructive here, but there's some things that simply can't be built on.

You don't like challenges. Do you dislike them? if so, why?

[languid prism]

Is there a way to remove commander agryona's annoying voicelines out? like i would love an option to shut her up and keep the OG announcer instead

"Too little too late, match lost" like damn she's annoying

feel like shaxx is screaming at me becaues i didn't throw enough grenades but like instead of being funny, she's just cringe.

[livid fable]

unfortunately, that's a feature.

sorta like the infection iratus. It's 'thematic.' yaaay.

[sullen kiln]

If you got a problem with me, we can solve it in solo queue

[storm snow]

If youre on PC you can delete the audio files for agryna with no ill effects on the game.

[tepid latch]

I remember this being a pretty big community request a while back alongside the bring back announcer voice for btb, i hope 343 is able to make it an option to turn on and off

as well as ai, but i also like my ai i just know theres people that would prefer nothing

[smoky wave]

They did reduced agryona presence a lot and make Jeff in BTB

She is now basically just saying the game mode and then at the end

[languid prism]

Hearing that ai voice is the main reason i stopped playing infection entirely. No i don't want to hear him screaming in my ear about chips or me being "bad" because i died. Ugh.

[livid fable]

I take it somebody had to make the bot say that since it's rather context specific

[tepid latch]

Unfortunately i have the same problem with Agryna as i do with Iratus and its that the voice feels so campy for what I was expecting to be a more serious tone of the mp story. like Agryna in the last cutscenes we saw her in felt so patronising and Iratus like a weekend cartoon villain. but idk if anyone else has those specific issues

[livid fable]

iratus and aranya are both efforts to make the multiplayer feel more immersive as though it were a part of some kind of story

[sullen kiln]

Nobody speak for Iratus, especially not lowly humans!

[livid fable]

seriously guys, if you like iratus, it's okay to have a different opinion than me.

but most people I know who have stopped playing have stopped playing because of the bot voice

[tepid latch]

Yeah, I like the concept of it for sure! ive been into the idea of MP being set more in the reality of halo. its just the execution of it for this game kinda sucked imo :(

[livid fable]

at some point you have to admit that your own clever design has shot you in the foot

[smoky wave]

Infection in general is mid anyways so doesn't matter if a new voice or not is there for me

[tepid latch]

I do love having my own ai!

[livid fable]

again, trying to be constructive here. not trying to say that it's automatically and forever bad just because I don't like it. but as with most things, giving players more control over their experience is going to improve it for them.

[tepid latch]

fret forever ✊

[smoky wave]

Fret my beloved

[tepid latch]

Oh for sure! i think there should absolutely be more extensive options for what audio we hear in the game!

[livid fable]

I loved playing OG infection. I can't stand this new version anymore. the old mode was just a fun thing. we didn't need grave mind talking to remind us that it's the flood.

[smoky wave]

I get that but I never see the infection like any fun

It's fun for a match and then go back to btb or slayer

[livid fable]

totally fair. I'm trying to think of a metaphor for myself.

oh! it's just like how I feel about ranked. I don't have an opinion on ranked, so I'm not really going to have any kind of opinion on any recommended changes for it. people who play ranked and enjoy it should be heard regarding it.

[tepid latch]

feel exactly the same lol

[livid fable]

some things need a refitting when we're putting them into Halo. a one to one translation of every single old game level would probably not be a great idea.

but if I'm a big fan of free for all juggernaut mode, and you try to sell me vampire ball as juggernaut, you've just demonstrated a lack of respect.

sometimes, less is more.

also, lol. "people are complaining about how annoying iratus is. better annoy them with iratus." I actually had it as my AI voice for a while, but I got so sick of it in infection that I just changed back to superintendent.

anyway. glad to see the lone wolves is back. between it and swat, I managed to get most of the challenges beat in about 3 hours of gameplay.

[tepid latch]

Man, i need to expand my server search so i can play swat

anyways, Fiesta time

[hollow bobcat]

I will say this; lone wolves or rumble pit is crazy in a good way.

Do you think they'll ever bring back that Battle Royale mode? I only played that once.

It's that mode with a giant map and you only have a limited number of lives.

[inland lance]

wait there was a battle royale mode???

[crystal iron]

Kinda

[inland lance]

what was it called

[crystal iron]

You had ffa on big team battle maps, limited amount of lives for each player, getting new weapon every few kills and map was getting smaller like in battle royale games. It was called lone wolves if I remember correctly. It was season 2’s main game mode let’s say

[inland lance]

niceeee

[misty vale]

Last Spartan standing

It owned

[hollow bobcat]

Last Spartans standing aka a squad-based elimination mode on big maps. That'll be neat.

[misty vale]

That's attrition. Folks got on this very discord and complained it was hard to carry

[umbral kettle]

isn’t 343 coming out with like a halo battle royale

[wanton root]

no official news on that

[eternal lion]

Its only rumours. 343 stated in 2020 that there were no battle royal coming

[wanton root]

Last. Spartan. Standing

gun game with limited lives

[crystal iron]

Only rumors

[crystal iron]

Sorry lol. Thought that it was called lone wolves

[wanton root]

no biggie, that mode has essentially been forgotten

didn't like it that much tbh, ffa's not my thing

is it in the lone wolves playlist?

[crystal iron]

I don’t think so

[wanton root]

hm

tbf, if they brought it back as it's own playlist, I honestly think that barely anyone would play it

[crystal iron]

Yeah, not many people liked it

[misty vale]

It was refreshingly different

But like 90%÷ players just wanna run n gun

[full warren]

I have no idea how to enjoy this game anymore when the teammates are just so bad.

Like what am i supposed to do, I can't even use them as human shields as they do 0 damage

[analog salmon]

ranked 😄

[full warren]

Ranked is a very different game tho lol, it might aswell be a different game

Its all about team work when I do not play this game as a team game because in social you can't play as a team as you can not rely on your teammates but in ranked atleast you can since you know they are around the same level as you

I do not that that mentality after playing so many social games lol, playing ranked I suck, I am always seem to be bottom of my team, but somehow the game still think I am good enough to be D4 after my placement games

[celest heron]

over time, your rank will go down to where you're supposed to be.

[lean prism]

If you are a fan of this idea please pass the word. I would really appreciate it. I want this in game https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1138539021837029427

[full warren]

The issue is I do not lose mmr when I am the worst on the team lol.

If I win and lose 50/50 I am gaining like 5mmr on average

anyway ranked can only be played after dinner time as there isn't enough players after 10pm and during the day, I dont think

well, i also can't play during the working day most of the time

[analog salmon]

population situation is rough

but tbf if you had good team mates in social

you would have to play as a team anyway

[full warren]

my last game i get 26/14, rest of the team is 9/14 7/14 3/11 like what am i supposed to do with that

[analog salmon]

it could be worse

[full warren]

50/26 (26 was my team) I get 14 kills

[full warren]

these games are literally unplayed something has gone seriously wrong with match making I am here face 2 high diamond or onyx players and the rest are just potatoes

[analog salmon]

idk what the point in it is

nobody really has fun in these matches

[full warren]

how did you post a picture lol

[analog salmon]

skillz

im special

[full warren]

oh

well in the last few days I am literally on like 20% win rate because of these team

[sullen kiln]

Inheritors are folks with veterancy, a record of good behavior, and currently active

[full warren]

half the games my team dont break 30 kills

like wtf is the point, why should I play that I should just quit

it was my 10 mins only to be cannon foder

[analog salmon]

that is rough

i do tend to win 50% so i dont complain too much but i just think those kind of games are not fun

i can tell the other team dont appreciate it either because they shoot my body and stuff

like you basically have a 1 in 4 chance that the player you encouter is going to be a tryhard or otherwise i complete novice

[glacial tartan]

It’s unfair on both sides and drives players away from the game. I hope it’s simply a result of low population but it does wear away at both ends in terms of engagement.

[celest heron]

well the other team also gets 2 potatoes usually so it evens out, but it's doesn't make it fun.

[analog salmon]

they just need to make sure 2 players on both teams are somewhat similar skill wise imo

i dont think that would impact matchmaking times too much

at some point the skill difference between players makes a match such low quality that any benefit to queue times is not worth it

far more off putting to play a match like that then to wait 30 seconds longer

[full warren]

another game I get 22 kills we lose 40/50

[full warren]

The issue is where is my teams another high dimaond player

I get 3 potatoes, they get 2, am I supposed to be god and 1v2 good players? even lucid would struggle against 2 good players and come out winning every time

[analog salmon]

yeah 2 players can carry 2 low skill players and enjoy the match, 1 player cant carry 3 low skill players and not be hating the game

[celest heron]

I'm looking at your last 5 games and that's not the case.

you had another teammate who was average and gets double digit kills with the exception of one game and all your games are close in score.

[analog salmon]

i guess at some point the matchmaker is never going to be able to balance your skill, like if you're a pro player you're getting put against 4 of the best players the matchmaker can find and you're gonna have to carry

but for diamond players i dont know

diamond+ is only the upper 25% of ranked players

it shouldnt be that hard to balance diamond players without putting 3 novices on their team

my experience is if one of your team mates is going positive/neutral you have a good game. if all 3 of your team mates are well into negative then its just not fun. regardless of the outcome of the match

[full warren]

35/50... joined mid way through a game like seriously

[analog salmon]

which really means they just need enough SBMM that one person on your team is the average of all the players on the other team so they can go 1.0+

[full warren]

The thing is the teams are not even closely balanced

I never get a single team mate that is positive kd

or even KDA. none of them contribute anything only occasioanlyl i get someone good liek the 1800 onyx player one time on my team

[analog salmon]

just sounds broken if that's happening to you game after game

i had that issue in Halo 4 on MCC where I couldnt win matches

1.8 k/d and i couldn't win. never really understood why. just stopped playing halo 4

if you're getting 20 kills+ your not a passive player so its not like you're just letting your team mates die

[full warren]

and another lose. yeah this is messed up

[celest heron]

all your games are close within 7 points or less of each other so it is balancing. The issue is it's expecting the top players to do too much.

[full warren]

37/50 these games are not even close

[full warren]

a lot of them are not tho like there 30s vs 50 games

no amount being better is going to flip that game

[celest heron]

I'm just looking at your last 7 games

[full warren]

I mean just 2 games ago it was like 35/50... so....

[celest heron]

that was a jip game. you're most likely just filling a spot in those ones.

[celest heron]

you matched a party, unfortunately.

[full warren]

and I just amtched a 4 man party

and 2 of my team quit, 40/50.... yeah these games are messed up

I am like 30% win rate now comming top almost all my games

Why do I even do this to my self I told my self to uninstall, should listened

[glacial tartan]

Video games are meant to be fun, if you're not having fun at least take a break 🙂

[celest heron]

try a different playlist that's not as stressful. btb usually is something that you can play at your own pace.

[full warren]

BTB takes 3 mins to even find a game so I do not bother

last 6 games my team average is like 38/50

Statistically there is somethign wrong

[celest heron]

fiesta is usually popular

[full warren]

don't tell me about fiesta that match making is even worse

I am always matched vs fiesta gods that we lose so badly my team might aswell not exist

[celest heron]

what about quickplay. below average players can do better in that cause they can focus on the objective.

[young glen]

You must've uninstalled for a while because this place was quiet for a good bit recently.

[full warren]

Love quick play if its not just pistols. I mean I did used to only play quick play but pistol on mnk still suck even with the buff

[full warren]

well yeah I did not play this game much for a while

has a good team mates for once, go and check his stats 24% win rate haha, this game really like to punish good players

[devout kite]

Any eta on when the update will launch?

[nova oriole]

Ngl

I really don’t mind it rn cause I’d rather they focus on the connection side

I’m being hit through walls cause the game still thinks I’m out of cover

[crystal iron]

Most likely with daily reset lol

[river path]

It would have been awesome to see jun appear in halo infinite or halo 5

[zealous panther]

did 343 added in to mcc some kind of light assist for the mkb like in infinite or i just playing myself?

[misty vale]

Just downloaded a gig patch for infinite, august update?

looks like it WAS

Nothing but great improvements in the preview, let's go

[onyx latch]

He's canonically hiding in the walls of AJJAMS

[devout kite]

I hope 343 continues adding weapon models in the battle pass

[humble widget]

My first ctf on dredge and I got an OK

This one sparks joy

[frosty condor]

[uneven bison]

Hopefully a commando weapon model. Feel like that one’s got a lot of potential for models

I wouldn’t mind a sniper model either

Maybe one that resembles the 4/5 model

[serene furnace]

I would take new weapons over skins and models for existing ones

[uneven bison]

That too

New content is always welcome

[solemn needle]

I have the issue of running into 4 stacks in H4 😂

There's always like 2 teams running h4 matchmaking every night. I love playing H4, but I don't really play with people cuz all my friends are playing infinite

Usually it's the h4 montagers that run together

[serene furnace]

Halo matchmaking is deliberately designed to make you not win every time

[uneven bison]

And then someone gets angry when they lose a lot. Which is normal.

[solemn needle]

I don't really get mad in social, couldn't be me

Unless someone steals my over or sum

[serene furnace]

There's something so funny about someone complaining about losing a lot to the point they are convinced they're really good at the game when they're not

[solemn needle]

What you referring to?

[uneven bison]

There are valid points occasionally but a lot of the time it can summed up to a skill issue

[serene furnace]

Certain members here, not you tho

[humble widget]

I'd love to see the return of the explosive pistol or nade launcher

[solemn needle]

Oh ok, just making sure I didn't say sum wrong 😭

[serene furnace]

Explosive pistol?

You mean the sticky detonator from Halo 4?
I love that one

[solemn needle]

I think he means the sticky detonator

[uneven bison]

Sometimes it seems like the CE pistol fires grenade rounds lol

[serene furnace]

Grenades in CE are basically nukes lol

[humble widget]

yeah sticky detonator

[solemn needle]

I used to hate CE grenades as a kid

[serene furnace]

Good

[humble widget]

it was a fine little thing, great combo with normal pistol

[serene furnace]

Yeah, but more than returning weapons, I was thinking of brand new weapons

[solemn needle]

Especially because you could carry 8 nades 😂

[uneven bison]

Sticky detonator was a funny weapon.

Seen some really dumb plays with it

[serene furnace]

For returning weapons I'd take stuff from Halo 3, 4 and 5
Not from Reach tho, that game has a wack sandbox

[solemn needle]

Rather have LR than stalker rifle ngl

[uneven bison]

Concussion rifle is a personal favourite of mine

[humble widget]

depends on the sandbox and what you want it to function as really

smg would be great as an alternative to the sidekick

[serene furnace]

Some work
But the Focus Rifle in Reach was just garbage, you're never killing someone with that

[solemn needle]

SMG/Sidekick starts like h2

[humble widget]

focus rifle in infection was a monster wym lmao

[serene furnace]

Because the infected had no shields

[solemn needle]

That's infection though

[uneven bison]

Nope. But it did look awesome, I’ll give it that

Especially the overheat animation

[serene furnace]

The target designator would work for BTB as long as you can only use it once

[lusty wraith]

Assigning the Change Outlines function to a new controller button now consistently results in the new binding working as expected.

When your support ticket gets resolved 😇

[solemn needle]

I didn't think the focus rifle was that bad. Especially on power house, strip the shields or make a player weak then side to your DMR

[uneven bison]

Orbital strike would be funny

Hated that thing in 2015

[serene furnace]

Halo has this problem where plasma based weapons were never good for killing, just for draining shields

[uneven bison]

Which is great in higher difficulties in campaign

But not so much in multiplayer

[serene furnace]

Oh no in Halo 2 legendary Elites kill you with 6 plasma rifle shots

[uneven bison]

I meant on your end

But I do remember that

[serene furnace]

Yeah on your end

[uneven bison]

Halo 2 laso is gonna be so fun

[solemn needle]

I don't think that's a problem tbh. It's part of the sandbox. Some weapons specialize in ways others can't

[uneven bison]

Once I get through winter contingency on laso 🗿

[serene furnace]

I had to have a friend carry me through H2 LASO

[serene furnace]

Which platform you play on?

[solemn needle]

Like the red brute plasma rifle in H5. Comboing that with your magnum was OP in Coliseium

[uneven bison]

Series X. It’s mostly skill issues on my part, runs great otherwise

[serene furnace]

I can help you in ODST, Reach and Halo 4 LASO

Not to brag but
You see how Halo MCC has 700 achievements

Well, I got them all

[solemn needle]

That's impressive

[serene furnace]

Thanks

Took me over 4 years

[uneven bison]

Mind if I dm you next time I get on?

[solemn needle]

Only like 2% of the community has accomplished that

[serene furnace]

Go ahead, I'll be here

[tired hound]

hey would anyone like to play ranked?

[serene furnace]

I don't want to play CE or Halo 2 on LASO ever again tho
The mental torture was real

[keen delta]

Wait is there a new map?

[serene furnace]

Yes

[keen delta]

Ohh dredge? Is it a remake of an old map?

[serene furnace]

It's based on Countdown from Halo Reach

[keen delta]

Is it in comp rotation?

[uneven bison]

The little blurb that says so and so % if gamers unlocked this always gets me confused, because only like 60% or so actually finished CE on normal for some reason

[serene furnace]

Which disappoints me because I think it's one of Reach's weakest maps
But oh well, at least it's not Sword Base

[serene furnace]

That I don't know

[solemn needle]

No it's not

[uneven bison]

Like the first campaign I finished on MCC was CE normal

[serene furnace]

You'd be surprised to know how little campaigns are played compared to multiplayers

[solemn needle]

And thank God it isn't

[keen delta]

"you’ll be able to play Dredge all day long in the Dredge 24/7 playlist!" nothing about comp rotation tho.

[solemn needle]

It's not in ranked

[humble widget]

not yet it isn't

[uneven bison]

And hear I am thinking that it’s the main reason people get mcc

[keen delta]

Yes

[humble widget]

but i cant wait for it to be

[serene furnace]

And regarding Halo difficulties, Normal and Heroic are usually the most ignored ones
They only care about Easy and Legendary

[solemn needle]

Unyshek confirmed at HCS SLC that it won't be in ranked

[uneven bison]

You either don’t want a challenge or want a challenge it seems

No in between

[humble widget]

probably too soon after release id say

[serene furnace]

Easy and Legendary are the favorite difficulties of the speedrunning community

[keen delta]

As someone who didn't play prior halo maps, what makes a good competitive halo map that feels like good halo?

[serene furnace]

Idk, if you ask me, Halo does not belong in competitive play

[humble widget]

lmao what

[keen delta]

what???

[solemn needle]

Nah if you look at the map itself, it's not meant for competitive play

[keen delta]

XDDD

[keen delta]

Halo?

[uneven bison]

I think Esports is a little too focused on, but Halo has the capacity for competitive play

[keen delta]

It is more competitive than any other game

[uneven bison]

That, is not true

CSGO exists you know

[keen delta]

CS GO? XD

[dry leaf]

new halo infinite blackscreen. tf is that

[keen delta]

U are funny, very funny.

[dry leaf]

dumb update

[serene furnace]

Last time 343 and Joe Staten said in public that Halo had always been a competitive game the community went against them and insisted Halo is casual

[solemn needle]

Halo is perfect for competitive play..... it's been the literal pioneer for esports 😂

[keen delta]

Too dumb to understand?

[celest heron]

it was played competitively in Reach.

[keen delta]

FR, I have never played past halos and I stand to this through anything.

[dry leaf]

you stupid as hell boi. never had any issues until this steam update. literally just blackscreen even after verifying files.

[keen delta]

sry that was mean

[serene furnace]

Don't play Halo on PC

EZ fix

[keen delta]

What the hell xD

[dry leaf]

Console is F

[solemn needle]

I've played in several halo tournaments and twice in the H5 open series. Halo is very competitiv

[dry leaf]

why would i lmao

[serene furnace]

I won't take any console slander

[keen delta]

You are on drugs

[uneven bison]

Ah yes, the pc superiority complex

[midnight tree]

has anybody managed to successfully play firefight with 8 players?

[serene furnace]

Nah, I had 6 at most

[uneven bison]

If you really want 8 players (I don’t) in a firefight match, you could probably find some people

[serene furnace]

And even with only 6 people, firefight was hella easy, can't imagine adding yet 2 more people killing enemies on top of that

[dry leaf]

F to console. Better everything plus, just attach a damn controller. Ez fix if you can't use a keyboard and mouse. Plus halo has good anti cheat, never any hacker's. either way, new halo infinite update on steam broke the damn game, L

[uneven bison]

I think he’s covered all the bases

[serene furnace]

Console doesn't get blackscreen bugs

[keen delta]

True pros play on pc

[dry leaf]

oh well, i got like 5000 other better games console doesn't have, just waiting for the Dark and Darker hotfix to let me in the server's. Thought i'd try infinite while i wait but nah, infinite broke itself

[celest heron]

? pros played on console since CE up until Infinite.

[uneven bison]

And don’t play with anyone because the population for halo on pc is ⬇️

[keen delta]

It's crossplay, population on pc has nothing to do with that.

[dry leaf]

it's just so much more convienient definetly.

[keen delta]

And you are making random s up. The population for halo overall is so small nobody plays with anyone or everybody plays with everybody.

[serene furnace]

Requirements to play a game on PC:
-20GB RAM
-300GB storage
-RTX 1250
-$400 Nvidia graphics card
-Steam/Epic Games Store/Microsoft Store
Requirements to play a game on Console:
-Own the console

[solemn needle]

And H5, main stage was always PC and the rest of the stations either had PC or Xbox

[dry leaf]

i find games within seconds, but like you'd know right? my man has a macbook and say's he knows what playing halo on PC is like haha

[keen delta]

Lmaoo

that pc is cheaper than a console

[uneven bison]

MacBook?

I have a MacBook?

Where is this phantom laptop?

[dry leaf]

*chromebook dip

[uneven bison]

I have a chromebook outside of school?

[solemn needle]

chill

[keen delta]

own the console... Forgot the prize tags and limit on what you can use it for?

[dry leaf]

you just have one in general. My man don't got no PC lmao

[uneven bison]

And that makes me lesser…. How?

[zealous panther]

Jesus, what happened to the halo chat while i was away from this server...

[humble widget]

I mean countdown was a pro play map during the late mlg days, i don't see why its successor wouldn;t

[serene furnace]

In no world will the price tag of a console surpass that one of a PC

[keen delta]

Depends.

[solemn needle]

Yea it was during Reach but the remake is COMPLETELY different

[dry leaf]

because you act like you know the match times on PC for a game you don't even own on PC silly

like wym?

[analog salmon]

imagine if you went back in time and didnt say this

[keen delta]

The only thing you can do with a console is play games.

[uneven bison]

Why all the complaints then?

[dry leaf]

;mao

[keen delta]

You are still going to need a laptop or even a pc in your life.

[zealous panther]

Oh hey at least Recon18 still here

[keen delta]

If you have a console good for you,

[serene furnace]

Why else would I want to have a console for? Watch TV?

[young glen]

... and order pizza!

[dry leaf]

because i've never had a blackscreen on a Infinite steam update ever, and i've been playing since release

[analog salmon]

if your participating in this conversation you need to make better use of your free time

[keen delta]

ur question is weird.

[dry leaf]

lmao like what does he even mean

[solemn needle]

Some people had this issue today, sum with the files or sum, idk

[keen delta]

fr.

[analog salmon]

how's it going 😄

[solemn needle]

the ebeef is crazy

[celest heron]

netflix, twitch?

[dry leaf]

i verified but still nothing, if not all good. i just play infinite listening to music while i wait for Dark and Darker updates

[keen delta]

?

[serene furnace]

Not weird, because the one time a console tried to be more than a device to play consoles on (The Xbox One), it was a failure
If you mean you can do more with a PC, like browsing the internet or working, any phone or cheap laptop will do that
I'm obviously not gonna get an Alienware just to use Twitter

[solemn needle]

And then again it's infinite so who cares 😂 😂 Most likely doing a favor

[uneven bison]

You can watch tv on console

[dry leaf]

that's what i'm saying lmao

[celest heron]

you can watch those on console

[keen delta]

Dude if you want the controller, buy one for a pc.

[analog salmon]

Look friends #halo-discussion IS NOT the place for debating console vs PC in general

[zealous panther]

Pretty different. Got bored of quake and decided to play infinite again. Also MCC got some update and I feel like they added something like assist for mkb like in infinite... But probably just imagination

[solemn needle]

I swear some of these kids in here are 14

[keen delta]

If you can get a good enough laptop to do basic stuff and have a console? sure.

If I would have lived my childhood as a console player I would definitely have a console.

[analog salmon]

i'll probably try out kbm in mcc sometime soon and let you know if i feel any difference

[serene furnace]

Why?
No PC game will ever be demanding enough for me to need a PC if it's also coming out on consoles because they have to be designed to be run on consoles
And PC exclusives... not interested in those

[solemn needle]

Nah, they didn't touch aim assist

[keen delta]

Do I need one when I already have a pc? No. Would I want one, sure. What do I get from it that differs from a pc, controller. I can buy thaat.

[keen delta]

I don't have one side.

[analog salmon]

the mcc team probably wouldnt add something like that without a toggle

they always add a toggle

[keen delta]

It depends in a lot of things. I have always had a pc so my pov is different than yours leading to a different opinion.

But honestly I just love to argue about consoles and pc for the f of it.

[analog salmon]

please dont do it here thanks

[keen delta]

Like americans, I joke about em all the time. Nothing against them etc.

[serene furnace]

What if it want to play Spiderman 2 in october and I'm not interested to wait 8 years before it comes out on PC

[zealous panther]

I just practice my sniper in reach today and I swear I almost can feel how it slows down like in infinite. Probably just phantom memories after all this railgun shots idk.

[keen delta]

You make it sound like argue means argue. Argue is a discussion between 2 people.

[analog salmon]

you can be civil and still in the wrong place

[keen delta]

Yes well I know

[uneven bison]

Arguing about arguing now

[solemn needle]

What does this got to do with ANYTHING 😭

[keen delta]

I am so angry about that. Buuut, renting a playstation or an xbox for it? Loaning from my sister?

[keen delta]

It's called an example.

[solemn needle]

Don't bring your poor sister into this

[keen delta]

Well one is poor, the other one is slightly poor, the third one is less poor.

[solemn needle]

🤦‍♂️ anyways

[keen delta]

Anyways

[analog salmon]

you couldnt really choose a less appropriate place to talk about the merits vs cons of owning a Playstation to play Spiderman

[keen delta]

I need to go halo ranked and go sleep, eyes falling apart.

[zealous panther]

Then just go sleep

[keen delta]

Oh wait it's halo discussion... bye now

[solemn needle]

😂

[keen delta]

i Thought it was general

[analog salmon]

fair enough i forgive you

[zealous panther]

This is Spider-Man 2 discussion now

[analog salmon]

first and last time i will ever use a sticker

nevermind just opened general chat and the topic is even worse

[solemn needle]

LOL

[zealous panther]

Hey, this is probably one of the best free event stuff I've seen since release

Br model are neet and even charms are good. Also sidekick are fire

[solemn needle]

The charms are so fire bro

CE retro goes so hard

[analog salmon]

yeah i really like the theme

[cunning oyster]

When Baldurs Gate 3 gets steam workshop support I’m going to add Covenant races

Soon, we will get to see martial art wielding grunts.

And Sorcerer Elites

[rotund bluff]

How do you use the BR? I genuinely can’t find out how to use it well

[analog salmon]

aim for the body and once the shields break aim below the head so the recoil gives you an easy headshot

(in infinite)

[celest heron]

don't think I like how easy it is to climb up to all the floors in dredge.

[white birch]

The grinding is REAL today

[misty vale]

game's never a grind in squad battle

[shrewd rapids]

Would be a cool idea if there's a rank mode consisting of maps from H2 and H3 and the game mechanics from the two games implemented

[low musk]

Probably tomorrow, I'm going to play and finish the last of the challenges for the week. Has the BTB Pelican drops felt good since the update?

As long as they don't just drop a Warthog on one side, and a scorpion on the other, I'm happy

[white birch]

It's been nicely balanced so far

[crystal iron]

i think theres a bug with the halo games event

[pliant palm]

?

[crystal iron]

i dont play the game yet i have 2 minutes left for me to unlock the skin for your game?

[pliant palm]

what

[crystal iron]

yea

it says i have 0h 2m left and the bars like 99% full and i just dont know why its trying to give it to me

i have a screenshot if you need one

[pliant palm]

what skin are you referring to?

what halo games event?

[crystal iron]

corrupted hex bulldog

[pliant palm]

can you DM a screenshot to @upbeat plover ?

[crystal iron]

okie

[humble widget]

Need a quick check, bit of a technical issue. I'm getting soft crashes on Series X, similar to screen freeze. Reminds me of a stutter on a pc before it blue screens. Sometimes it works itself out and is fine but other times I gotta quit the game and soft reboot, is there a general reason to this or can i fix this manually?

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[crystal iron]

ok I'm running the game now I just gotta set a two minute timer

[devout kite]

Are you talking about the game pass reward?

[crystal iron]

yea but what's this driver blocked stuff mean

[celest heron]

had that happen a couple times, but not regularly.

[crystal iron]

there, now we just wait for sam

[lofty mist]

Question

Halo Infinite's MP doesn't require Xbox Live Gold (or "Game Pass Core" as it's called now). Does the campaign require it for online co-op?

[young glen]

For online coop?

[lofty mist]

Yeah

[crystal iron]

I don’t think so

[young glen]

Yes

[crystal iron]

It’s the same app so in theory it shouldn’t

[hollow bobcat]

I wish the pizza time camo applied to all weapons.

[smoky wave]

The campaign is paid, so it is

[crystal iron]

But it’s still within halo infinite so how does it work?

[smoky wave]

Is considered separated

[crystal iron]

Okay then

[lofty mist]

Sam confirmed it is

Thanks everyone

[devout kite]

If you want to play the campaign ether you’ve to buy it or just use gamepass

[lofty mist]

I'm aware the campaign costs money. The question was if you need to buy Live Gold to do online campaign co-op.

[devout kite]

I think so idk

[analog salmon]

i would guess not because its DLC for a F2P game

otherwise how would it work with a game like Destiny 2

but i guess really they could do it how they like on a game by game basis

[lofty mist]

@analog salmon @devout kite Sam confirmed it does require Live Gold.

[analog salmon]

ah good to know

[quasi finch]

I kinda wish the og cadet colors didn’t have orange accents it’s not really just blue or green which is kinda the whole point of cadet colors

[noble urchin]

at first i was sad that Infinite firefight won't be like H5 firefight, but then i played Reach FF last night and i now i think it'll be good no matter what

[green oar]

Seeing people say that Infinite hitreg is fixed now is crazy to me because I watch half my bullets pass through people all the time, or will die in half a second to a guy hosing me with an AR from 30 feet away and have no idea what happened. Bad netcode is the reason we should have actual pve progression, if they can't fix their game in a timely manner then at least make it bearable by letting us fight bots.

[misty vale]

Hitreg is like 100x better than at release.

[ivory glacier]

Why are my #%# nades not blowing up over and over again. Once or twice maybe I’m seeing things. But now I’m 100% sure. And nice to see getting shot behind walls is a thing again. I wasn’t really having issues for a long time but they’re back

[hollow bobcat]

It's a good feeling when you find a hiding enemy flag carrier, kill them, and return your team's flag so they can score.

[crystal iron]

Any news on PVE

[celest heron]

no

[crystal iron]

Well that's lame lol

Honestly though in 22 days I'll probably do full into Starfeild I won't even bother.

I have already been talking with Modders who made some stuff for Fallout 4 and I got it in their ear that maybe they should make some Halo Themed stuff for Starfeild. Mainly Spartan Armor

Honestly I haven't really played Halo in a bit though been waiting for the PVE stuff.

Been going between No man Sky, monster hunter Rise and MW2 alot

But mostly been working on getting back in shape, I'm already getting jacked the thing I'm aiming for is leaning out my core mostly

[celest heron]

I wouldn't expect news about anything until season 5 is closer.

[crystal iron]

Which by that point I'll be playing as the master chief in Starfeild lol

I hope someone makes an energy sword mod for that game lol given how OP the melee builds are looking to be lol

I'm assuming we still don't have cross core armor yet?

I haven't really played the game in a bit

[wanton root]

Cadet grey is the only one with orange accents, unless you meant the orange leds on mark 7

But those are pretty tiny anyways

[visual epoch]

Hey guys I have a genuine question

I’ve been playing ranked with my boys and sometimes I’ll do better than them on the scoreboard in terms of points kills etc. but every game I find myself losing more points than them and gaining less depending on the outcome

Why is this😞

Also I want campaign DLC

[celest heron]

likely because you're getting put in easier games due to your boys' skill levels and so you don't get as much csr for doing well and you'll lose more csr if you didn't perform to what the game expected you to do.

[crystal iron]

So Inkida wonder why 343 decided to put right remove color choice and replace it.

I wonder why they didn't keep color choice and add Coatings as an additional layer of customization.

[celest heron]

monetization and more content

[crystal iron]

Perhaps, there is someone here I'm sure would disagree with you but I haven't seen them

[celest heron]

it's been discussed to death when it was first discovered about colors

[crystal iron]

Yea but we never really got a Straight answer. I honestly think. Since we are heading to the 2 yr mark or whatever it would be a great chance to kinda get some transparency on some of the choices made.

I mean even with color choice, and coatings combined they could still monetize and create more content.

The latter sounds more like they are not creative enough to actually keep a steady stream. Of content going unless they limit players to a certain type of feature

The Armor core/ Coating system just kinda comes off like they were copying CODs operator system. Where you have sperate operator each with their own skins the operators being the armor cores the skins being the coating . In hindsight it really does look like a copied idea

They did admit cross core was never the intent, it was intended to be locked down to each core having its own separate system.

The MK7 is Price, the MKv B is Soap lol

But which armor core is Roze

[celest heron]

they're never gonna mention their business strategies or reasonings and I wouldn't blame them. If you look at the store bundles, the colors are just one way to pad them up more.

[crystal iron]

That and the emblems or decals here's a bundle with 4 of the same Picture.

Honestly I think the COD bundles have more value the weapon skins they have are freaking awesome.

My KVBroadside shotgun is literally on fire with one of them

[crystal iron]

I just saw Tech knife as the daily for that one WW2 armor core and was like wait isn't that just a recycle item that was sold for the MK7

At least they aren't trying to sell it for like 500 credits but still kinda feels uncreative.

[crystal iron]

Halo Infinite honestly doesn't feel like it makes a Great live service in terms.of using the COD model.

By which I mean the game doesn't feel like it has the capability to have a constant flow of stuff to sell that feels worth buying.

I think people really just buy it because it's there only option at getting that specific color for their Spartan.

Really the game itself feels cheapened with how they went about the monetization.

It's also very limited in that they can't really go too extreme with it as they did want to try to stay with Halo Lore style stuff mostly.

So in that I can see what you mean by content and monetization in terms of the choice they made. Had they given us color choice alongside coatings and cross core day 1 it would greatly limit the amount of content they could repackage and resell to extend the monetization of the game itself

Or at least that's what their business and marketing team possibly thought

I kinda want a MK7 version of Spartan Locks armor I actually would think it would look nice

Arbiters Guard screams someone wore their brown pants

[dim jewel]

And it'd be perfect for maps like Bazaar with lots of CQC

[summer shard]

has anyone experienced frame drops recently? back when it launches i reach 100 fps and when i returned in early 2023 i can only reach 60fps not bad but now i can only reach 30 fps without turning my pc into a stove.

[tame crane]

Does anyone know when or if xbox or mobile app users will be able to receieve corrupted hex bulldog coating? Cuz rn only pc users can which is annoying

[languid prism]

Wonder what the max rank reward will be

[winter wren]

https://streamable.com/le7ge7 someone tell me HOW TF did this guy NOT die from a DIRECT hit from the hammer...no wonder why people like to pretend infinite doesn't exist

[green oar]

Game always runs my PC (5600X, 3070) super hot but recently they changed something that made the game essentially require 4 GB of VRAM at a minimum, meaning your graphics card is gonna be running harder no matter what

[umbral kettle]

what’s the difference between 60 and 120 fps

on my xbox S 60 already looks real

is it a big change?

[crystal iron]

Very big difference

[umbral kettle]

how

it already looks perfect

[crystal iron]

Try playing on 120fps and you will see lol

[umbral kettle]

how tho :((

[crystal iron]

How what?

[umbral kettle]

how can i play on 120 fps

isn’t it only on xbox X

[crystal iron]

First you need a monitor with 120hz

[umbral kettle]

uh huh

[crystal iron]

Then you need to change your frame rate in console’s settings and then in game

[umbral kettle]

uhh okay

thanks

[crystal iron]

No problem

[prime basin]

343 please. I literally have to try to harden matches because you put me in a position to do so, just because I'm a stronger than average player. Remove the sbmm from casual playlists! It's unnerving to play with a high ping because the match has to look for players of my caliber, so in addition to suffering from the high ping I can't play calmly because I have the onix champion with 5000 games against = Game not enjoyable.
Please remove sbmm from casual playlists.
If a weaker player would like to play with someone of his caliber there is precisely the ranked playlist or, learn to play and if he doesn't mind learning. Why damage the gaming experience to us stronger?

[onyx latch]

Lmao wut

(Rhetorical what)

[hollow bobcat]

Is it just me or does the new map not feel like a reimagining of the one from Halo Reach?

[onyx latch]

Which new map?

[crystal iron]

He’s probably talking about countdown remake that was added yesterday

[humble widget]

Dredge? Yeah it's basically inspired from Countdown. Not exactly a 1:1 but the environment should feel familiar

Some creative differences but it's a good map all things considered

Only thing I'd probably change is how far back the respawns are

They're fairly brutal when it's objective modes

[onyx latch]

It helps when you use names. I didn't get "Countdown" vibes looking at it this morning.

[humble widget]

At least 1 half of the map is a near 1:1 of Countdown

Rocket side

There's also similarly placed drop downs from the highest floor onto the second

Initial spawn is what's throwing me off since players would spawn facing each other in the BR rooms

[hollow bobcat]

Yes, I heavily agree when it comes to koth. Grenades galore in the middle.

[umbral kettle]

same

[full warren]

ok whatever this new season did it messed up match making, I am put in these games where my team barely even gets 30 kills in a slayer how is this balnaced

[analog salmon]

It plays completely different because you can move around it in so many new ways

It’s just inspired by countdown, I don’t think it’s even been referred to as a “reimagining”

Our newest map, Dredge, is entering Halo Infinite’s lineup next week! With inspiration directly from Halo: Reach’s popular map Countdown, this forged homage is sure to make a lasting impression. When diving into the map for the first time, players can expect a new take on the scenery and refreshed gameplay flow.

[prime basin]

In fact I'm talking about the opponents

[solemn needle]

Just realized that 👍

[young glen]

Doubtful, as you've been complaining about this for quite a long time now.

[onyx latch]

Gamer rage moment

[full warren]

I went on a rant just yesterday which was after the update

And ever since then its been nothing but one sided games, even when I win its one sided

[young glen]

Before the update, I mean. You've been experiencing these matches for months.

[onyx latch]

I can find messages of you complaining about it in January.

In exactly the same way.

[crystal iron]

That’s a lot of complaining

[full warren]

Yes ofcourse I do but lately its been only losses, before I can maintain a higher than 50% win rate

[onyx latch]

Almost the same wording, in fact. 56 pages of it starting 1/08/2023.

[full warren]

now its barely 33%

[full warren]

I am sure I started complaining since season 1

[onyx latch]

Ew.