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ebon nova
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Need to be in the game

humble rain
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@topaz silo

somber viper
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No

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Not possible

sick tinsel
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ford shelby gt500
looks fat from the front

craggy edge
sick tinsel
teal frost
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@sick sail

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No sausage kerbs as well

chilly fractal
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@sick sail bro the opposite team as me was getting demolished, last round I got from 20 to 30 in a few seconds

sick sail
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keep up the work bro

chilly fractal
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yessir

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watch later my aim is gonna be dog water

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I didn’t even try but when I try, my aim is bad

sick sail
sick tinsel
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this brake light looks kinda bad

sick sail
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my prime is gone

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can't keep up

chilly fractal
humble rain
signal dagger
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Rate the new whip

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@lofty trail

lofty trail
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W/10

signal dagger
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Well 2

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🙀

lofty trail
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zamn

signal dagger
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Waiting for daily reset for more tokens

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🤑🙏🏼

stable kraken
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tutorial on how to get A9C

lofty trail
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thats not a9c

signal dagger
humble rain
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jus downloaded old version of HMS servies and app gallery from apkpure

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and then make a acc on app gallery using email or phone number

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change ur region to china

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search for wild racing 9

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and hit download

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then after downloading jus login into ur game with the same acc has app gallery and you're good to go

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and also this method is for mobile (android)

signal dagger
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Hello chiron

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We meet again

lofty trail
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Why does it look w i d e

signal dagger
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More thicc back there

gentle cradle
lofty trail
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ferrar

gentle cradle
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@sudden oyster hello

sudden oyster
cerulean compass
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rebuilding my decrepit RSR

ebon nova
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Hey yo why you making lego

dull widget
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They nailed the back

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Messed up the middle

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the front is alright but could be better

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IMO

cerulean compass
tawdry monolith
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must i say more

cerulean compass
loud drum
ebon moss
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like

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holy garbage

ebon nova
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What do you mean

ebon moss
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they went on google

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Typed in

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“Bugatti Chiron 3D model”

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And bought that proportionally wrong Chiron model

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This is how it should look

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The ace racer model is longer, wider, and squished from the top

ebon moss
jade bane
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FNaF’s 10th anniversary

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🗣️

jade bane
solar edge
clear meteor
plain hemlock
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@red ice yea =)))

red ice
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Omg, such a queen!!! Congrats, how good is the game compared to Genshin??

plain hemlock
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I haven't play Genshin since 3.2 of that

red ice
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That's interesting to hear, might give it a try eyesrolling

plain hemlock
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Yea, you should try it for a few

red ice
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For sure! On my laptop kiss

signal dagger
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Mustang revamp: sends out a green ghost horse (50m range). If hit by the horse your car will lose control and drive backwards momentarily. Reset won't save you btw.

quick lintel
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Words of a legend...

neat hornet
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Any opinions or thoughts on how I did? Not very experienced with using drift cars lol

long holly
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no idea what that game is but looks impressive

shrewd carbon
quick lintel
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Lets talk about alu in offtopic

shrewd carbon
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this is PES Unite menu

somber viper
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Asphalt 9

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We need asphalt 9 again

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Unite was disappointing for me

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Before the update there was absolutely no lag at all but now I can barely play MP because of the lag

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Istg they ruined it for Android

long holly
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heh

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Didn't know china a9 supports paypal

chilly fractal
neat hornet
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It’s a fun game

sick sail
sick sail
cobalt narwhal
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@grim dove We do a little trolling

grim dove
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lore

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@jaunty flame is going to die fr

jaunty flame
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I’d win

tawdry monolith
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Niltrix kiss

glass moon
humble rain
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what does this means?

teal frost
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@humble rain

humble rain
teal frost
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Yw

faint dragon
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Didn't know that A9C has some of Alu songs wth

subtle hedge
graceful bane
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burger

faint dragon
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Cop bully

slim harness
dreamy wadi
stone meadow
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c9 cooking af @cedar gyro

cedar gyro
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bingus

teal frost
signal dagger
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@stone meadow eyesrolling

ebon nova
signal dagger
stone meadow
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Is that devel 16 ripoff on left bottom

signal dagger
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Nvm i meant current

dreamy wadi
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From netease i guess

signal dagger
north tiger
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Ace Racer went from being a genuine A9 competitor to A9 for gooners

signal dagger
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Global is in a state of cope

willow lily
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This will be free in Fortnite tomorrow for watching D23 in game.

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There will be a creator map live for the stream. You need to be in it for 10 minutes.

north tiger
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I forgot when global Ace Racer dropped

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It's been like, 2-3 years tho(?)

signal dagger
north tiger
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Ah

desert night
ebon nova
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Manga anime Netflix

desert night
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Anyways I'm out

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Have a great day

sonic cape
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everyone saw this new arcade racing game with fancy graphics featuring a few real cars and immediately labeled it an asphalt 9 competitor and jumped on this bandwagon of hyping up the game

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that's just how it is for chinese games

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once you got an avatar that you can customize, of course they will monetize that

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asphalt 9 china would've went the same route if it had character customization

desert night
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Done

hexed kernel
humble rain
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is this game any good?

dreamy wadi
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I love the new lamborghini v10 monster

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I hope it gets a v10

teal frost
dreamy wadi
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Wtf

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A v8?

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When was the last time we had a v8 at lamborghini

teal frost
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PHEV V8, 10K rpm redline

dreamy wadi
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I forgot that lamborghini made a suv

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Well it's not from lamborghini

teal frost
dreamy wadi
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It's a audi Q6 redesigned

teal frost
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Im 1 week late but im glad they did this

willow lily
hallow scroll
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@willow lily meloetta

dense finch
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here

wide spoke
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so u can basicaly have 2 asphalt winout problem?

dense finch
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and you should link your progress to a Gameloft account so it makes it easier to use your progress there

clear socket
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it work

dense finch
wide spoke
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i dont have any acaount why not use the code its it bad?

clear socket
dense finch
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have you linked your progress with a Gameloft account?

wide spoke
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not yet

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i being having some problem with me email

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i might change it

dense finch
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ok, do it so you can use your progress on the android version

dense finch
wide spoke
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password errors

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a lot

dense finch
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you need a Gameloft account to use your progress

wide spoke
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i prob make another xbox acaount

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just for that

wide spoke
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if anyone tried it

dense finch
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it should work, you create a Gameloft account first

clear socket
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just this

dense finch
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then link it with that

clear socket
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not the code

dense finch
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I forgot the process but it's the Gameloft one

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I think the code one is steam

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and steam doesn't have ads

clear socket
wide spoke
dense finch
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yeah, connect Gameloft account and follow the instructions

clear socket
plain haven
signal dagger
chilly fractal
sick sail
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keep up the work

fringe spindle
plain haven
fringe spindle
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oh

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close enough

plain haven
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yeah i dont play etterna

fringe spindle
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not too familiar with either client uis

plain haven
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Ah fair

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Osu?

fringe spindle
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only play stable

plain haven
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Ahh

fringe spindle
plain haven
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I never rlly played mania

fringe spindle
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they say etterna/quaver players are better than 90% of current mania players

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they just build diff

plain haven
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More demographically based

fringe spindle
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yea

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isnt od system similar in etterna/quaver

plain haven
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no clue

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i just know quaver is much stricter than mania in accuracy

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Perf - 98.25

fringe spindle
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is it scorev2 on default

plain haven
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whats v2 ratings in mania

fringe spindle
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they just cut acc for perfects

plain haven
fringe spindle
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damn

plain haven
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Idk the other ratings for quaver but ik Marv is 100 and Perf iss 98.25

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Epsilon would be playable for me on quaver but i cannot play d another

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I am so bad at it

fringe spindle
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yea its similar to mania score v2 in osu

fringe spindle
fringe spindle
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if u played on osu stable

plain haven
plain haven
fringe spindle
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u manip better than i do

plain haven
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its crazy how much worse i am at speed

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than every other type

fringe spindle
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i main ln

plain haven
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my brain js doesnt handle it

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and it sucks because quaver's rating system loves LN's like crazy

fringe spindle
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i became obsessed with ln once i got used to it after like a week of practice

plain haven
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i tried for like three weeks straight on tons of maps and i just couldnt

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cj main here ctea

fringe spindle
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chordjack?

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im mid at it

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i cant do jacks that well either

plain haven
fringe spindle
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only reason i bought a75 is to prevent missing on mini jacks

fringe spindle
plain haven
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its in the dan pack

fringe spindle
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oh

plain haven
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but i played it at 1.05 cuz its just the spam part

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and its .95 default

fringe spindle
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i can do jumpstream

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i think 260+ bpm

plain haven
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same, handstream i start to drop like crazy tho

fringe spindle
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handstream is nearly unreadable when its like 210 bpm

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have u touched osu stable client before

plain haven
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used to then i just stopped

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like 3 times

fringe spindle
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damn

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no motivation to climb?

plain haven
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then i remembered quaver has built in osz conversion

plain haven
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im like 31k in quaver cuz all of my 40+ dr plays are offline

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because the maps are from osu and not quaver

fringe spindle
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u can download maps from osu web and play in quaver?

plain haven
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Yep

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Built in its so nice

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I converted dan conglomeration in <2 mins

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like every map

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1st - zeta

fringe spindle
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i cant even play dans yet

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well not the popular ones

plain haven
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gotta start from somewhere

fringe spindle
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i only passed one ln dan

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score didnt save on local for some reason

plain haven
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tell me three yrs ago i could play rose quartz and get a dan overclear by 2% i would call you mental

plain haven
fringe spindle
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i cant do jacks

plain haven
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to an extent

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every time ive tried to play all four i die on d another or hitsugi

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rose quartz and forgotten i can get past with 96% tho

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i usually exit d another with a 87 its so bad

fringe spindle
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check dm

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sent clip of one of my plays

teal frost
chilly fractal
knotty briar
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Hello

faint rapids
somber viper
chilly fractal
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@sick sail

ebon moss
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@lofty river I just got out of the marshmello concert, what to get

teal frost
lofty river
ebon moss
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Ite

gentle cradle
brazen stump
teal frost
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sonic cape
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wonder when's the anouncement

light fiber
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9️⃣ mew ➡️ nine

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👋 👋

sick sail
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bro what

teal frost
brazen stump
hollow gull
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it's also a shame since her son passed earlier this year as well

teal frost
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man…

craggy edge
devout fjord
drifting lynx
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random ahhh opening

craggy edge
tropic frigate
sick sail
sonic cape
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minor inconvenience

hollow gull
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true

drifting lynx
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my whole Pokémon collection for now

craggy edge
faint rapids
white mica
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I drive to far and dark

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20km

sick sail
stoic siren
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good old 2015

chilly fractal
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I think I posted this a few months ago

dreamy wadi
worn flint
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The WoŁfy ears lol

dreamy wadi
neat hornet
signal dagger
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Cloud car???

azure kindle
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BJzpjxcF

faint dragon
azure kindle
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That's how you get invited

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Just put that code

faint dragon
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I am asking A9C discord server

tawdry monolith
lofty trail
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@tawdry monolith 💀

tawdry monolith
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ik i saw

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it cute

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im also bald rn

faint dragon
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i installed asphalt 9 china

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bypassing ios china security

lofty trail
faint dragon
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dang

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you bald asf boi

tawdry monolith
sick tinsel
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which wing looks better?

lofty trail
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np kiss

azure kindle
faint dragon
faint dragon
faint dragon
faint dragon
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i need a9c discord too

chilly fractal
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@sick sail close to not winning because of her in 2nd smh

agile iron
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Hello again everyone. Its Lucy. I have made the tough but neccessary descion to leave discord. This may come as a shock to you guys, but if you want to try and convince me not to leave my dms are open. my username right now is she.who.is.deleted.
goodbye everyone, Lucy aka she.who.is.deleted

kindred cove
dull widget
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Beautiful

teal frost
placid sable
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Former CEO of YouTube has passed Susan at 56 years old

sick tinsel
quasi sky
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alr nvm i lied guys it was like 2.4m views

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alu instagram reel 😭

craggy edge
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In Greece 🇬🇷
Back in October 2019.
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wild summit
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looks awesome, at least skins

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season 3 is trash, everyone has nitro knuckles and magneto gauntlets at the start

hollow gull
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magneto gauntlets at the start

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what are you on

sage notch
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AAAAAA yoimiyakick

wild summit
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literally everyone using

hollow gull
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plus im one of the people who had fun with the nitro fists

wild summit
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start of the game when gauntlets released with Magneto

hollow gull
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oh

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still

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they were fun

wild summit
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ranked games more interesting in terms of weapons limitation, knuckles still there and no cars

hollow gull
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the perfect mode for people who fails to adapt ig

fair pelican
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finally got a proper pc

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cant figure out why there is that blur but whatever

topaz silo
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@wide spoke am cooked fr

wide spoke
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💀

topaz silo
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a literal warcrime bro

wide spoke
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what next

topaz silo
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death

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jk

wide spoke
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so haircut its warcrime

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🔥

topaz silo
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yis

wide spoke
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cant wait what they think of next

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having a dog and care for it

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🔥

craggy edge
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Lemon flag

teal frost
sick tinsel
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mustang police cars

sick tinsel
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this thing with neon light really looks cool

fringe spindle
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gl better put it in the game

hoary marlin
blazing summit
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He tried to walk ride lmao

frozen hearth
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guh

faint dragon
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XD

thin sky
hoary marlin
thin sky
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Lmao

crisp yew
humble rain
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will Asphalt 9 china get the unite update

fair pelican
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dead inside

fringe spindle
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a9c is doing its own thing

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unite update is up to gl and chinese gov

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mostly on chinese gov

brazen stump
dreamy wadi
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The new Mercedes AMG GT

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So no new SLS

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Gotta love a simple SLS

teal frost
fair pelican
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not really#

humble rain
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means

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no new graphics

fair pelican
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Mercedes themselves say they dont want to compete at that price range or quality yet (then promptly produce the AMG One)

wide fractal
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@sage notch @cedar gyro I have so many questions and all of them are WHYYYYYY???

sage notch
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You're getting one?

wide fractal
sage notch
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It's still one of the most profitable gacha so

wide fractal
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Imagine Unite being bundled with Nintendo Switch

sage notch
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Maybe some codes to redeem rewards

wide fractal
wide fractal
sage notch
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Sony is known for using this tactics

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Like if you buy items from ps store you can't even claim it on other platforms even though it's cross save

wide fractal
sage notch
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It's just sony under table tactics

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Hoyo just in it for the moni

north tiger
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Back when I used to play I could only buy bp on PS

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Trying on mobile would just bring up an error message saying "you can only buy via psn"

wide fractal
sage notch
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Yea, that's why I hate sony

dreamy wadi
drifting lynx
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💀

dreamy wadi
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Simplified the doors, gave it a smaller engine a more Round design because Mercedes-Benz thought their cars needs to be round

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Amg also recently started to cheap out as much as possible and gave the new Sl a I4 amg engine

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It's gets gapped by the A45 amg did

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The sls had also the coolest black series version

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Tho I must admit the SLR is still more king since it was the A2 cover car

brazen stump
teal frost
wide fractal
fierce yew
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Seeking for native people here 🧐

sick sail
faint dragon
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first video of my channel

clear meteor
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u

teal frost
flat wolf
fervent grail
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basically swap memory

indigo echo
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Nvm

jovial kindle
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that's what swap memory is my guy

flat wolf
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It allows the system to use a portion of the device's internal storage as additional RAM

fervent grail
jovial kindle
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aka they're the same

lost totem
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That's exactly swap memory laugh

fervent grail
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admit you're wrong

flat wolf
flat wolf
fervent grail
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oh my god

flat wolf
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And what I am talking about is different.

fervent grail
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im losing braincells

lost totem
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Virtual memory is an alias to swap memory, if only you looked up "swap memory" on your search engine

flat wolf
indigo echo
flat wolf
flat wolf
indigo echo
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Instead of reading the name read the sentence chat gpt said and the google thing

hybrid briar
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i think im stupid, i play like 5 FPS shooters

+ALU

flat wolf
lost totem
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RAM Plus is using swap memory, because that's the only way of supplementing more memory to the OS by using the storage device instead, which is exactly what swap memory is

flat wolf
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Understand??

flat wolf
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Read the sentence.

somber viper
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Pro

jovial kindle
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we don't care about the names if they both do the same thing, that's like saying Orbit and Extra gum packs are different just because they have different names, even though they're owned by the same company and they make the same product, just for different consumers.

flat wolf
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It allows the system to use a portion of the device's internal storage as additional RAM

hybrid briar
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it dosent count

somber viper
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XD

flat wolf
# flat wolf

Would you please car to eve read this guys? Just take a break and read this.

jovial kindle
flat wolf
lost totem
indigo echo
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RAM plus works similarly with swap memory

hybrid briar
indigo echo
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Literally

flat wolf
# fervent grail

I am talking about "RAM plus" and not "Swamp memory" or "swap space"

somber viper
jovial kindle
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man i'm giving up

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😭

somber viper
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And someone told me XDefiant is good but idk

hybrid briar
somber viper
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...

fervent grail
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even the feature itself says the same exact thing

jovial kindle
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i build and repair computers for a living and i'm the one that doesn't know anything about how these things work 😭

hybrid briar
somber viper
hybrid briar
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i have like 4gb of vram on my rtx 3050ti

flat wolf
hybrid briar
indigo echo
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Ok ok so it wasnt swap memory

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It was ram plus

flat wolf
jovial kindle
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you can't ever make random access memory out of solid state storage devices and expect it to be good

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they work fundamentally different

somber viper
indigo echo
# flat wolf So, you understand now, right?

Yes literally
According to chat gpt
they are not the same:

  1. Swap Memory (or Swap Space): This refers to a portion of storage (such as an SSD or HDD) used by the operating system to temporarily hold data that doesn’t fit in the RAM. It's a way to extend available memory when physical RAM is full. It helps to manage memory more effectively, though accessing swap memory is slower than accessing RAM.

  2. RAM Plus: This is a feature found in some Samsung devices that uses a portion of internal storage as additional virtual RAM. It works similarly to swap memory but is integrated as a feature to improve performance by increasing the effective amount of RAM.

In essence, while both swap memory and RAM Plus involve using storage to extend memory, RAM Plus is a specific implementation in Samsung devices designed to enhance performance by using storage as virtual RAM.

hoary lark
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flat wolf
fervent grail
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fact

jovial kindle
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it does the same thing but slower

flat wolf
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Read this, @fervent grail

jovial kindle
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😭

flat wolf
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Where is the other guy?

hybrid briar
fervent grail
flat wolf
somber viper
lost totem
indigo echo
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Why wont yall get it

flat wolf
flat wolf
jovial kindle
fervent grail
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to explain

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and chatgpt can make mistakes

indigo echo
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Wait lemme just

flat wolf
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You know what?

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Let me take an ss from my phone.

jovial kindle
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hold on

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let's switch topic for a second

flat wolf
jovial kindle
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do you know the difference between

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an ssd

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and a ram module

flat wolf
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yes I do, and I was never talking about ssd

jovial kindle
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ssd's are local storage

indigo echo
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I searched on google and ram plus is slower

jovial kindle
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they're the same chips that your phone uses for storage

flat wolf
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RAM Plus is literally memory extension.

jovial kindle
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yes

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it's an extension from your ssd

flat wolf
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and not memory swap.

jovial kindle
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which is slower than ram

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it treats it as NORMAL RAM

fervent grail
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sa,me

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thing

flat wolf
jovial kindle
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and slows your phone down

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because it treats it as normal ram.

flat wolf
fervent grail
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it prioritises

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fact

jovial kindle
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.

fervent grail
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i can confirm

jovial kindle
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my brother

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it doesnt matter if it works in tandem with normal ram

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some apps that run on it

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will surely slow down

flat wolf
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So, my phone is not a Samsung, but it has similar feature to that of RAM Plus from samsung.

jovial kindle
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man i'm giving up

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you won

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idc

fervent grail
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bro won the "cant be educated" medal

flat wolf
fervent grail
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sorry not sorry

jovial kindle
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are

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system dependent

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that's all i'm saying

lost totem
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Dio you're misunderstanding, RAM Plus is just a name of a feature that quite literally uses swap memory to achieve its functionality

flat wolf
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Yeah, but my point was that They are not the same thing

jovial kindle
#

^^^

lost totem
#

A simple look up of "does ram plus use swap memory" should've told you the truth

flat wolf
jovial kindle
#

man i'm giving up 😭

lost totem
#

Jesus Christ

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Love Discord sending messages twice

flat wolf
#

Then, can you explain this Voltrex?

indigo echo
fervent grail
#

chatgpt using samsungs buzzwords

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it isnt faster

indigo echo
fervent grail
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it is as slow as swap

flat wolf
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and I did.

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The performance increased.

indigo echo
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Ram Plus?

flat wolf
#

Let me send the ss from my phone, what the feature really is called.

flat wolf
#

But I would like to add this

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I was not talking about RAM Plus from the start of the convo

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you guys said that it is a feature.

indigo echo
#

What phone

flat wolf
#

It is not a samsung.

fervent grail
#

goofy ah font

lost totem
# flat wolf Then, can you explain this Voltrex?

Okay let me explain, RAM Plus is the same as swap memory but it's mainly made for phones like Samsung phones, most phones don't have this feature, if you actually look it up they're the same performance and it entirely depends on the speed of your storage device since that's what it uses to make more memory available to the OS

indigo echo
fervent grail
#

gemini says its the same concept but took differently, still slowe than physical ram

flat wolf
#

Read the definition.

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Extended RAM

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not Memory Swap

lost totem
#

It's a NAME, read its description

indigo echo
#

Ill send all the definition i can find

flat wolf
lost totem
#

What it does is swap memory

fervent grail
#

same CONCEPT

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at its base it is SWAP MEMORY

flat wolf
#

This feature provides Additional Ram

flat wolf
fervent grail
#

ram from storage

lost totem
#

Using a storage device as additional RAM is quite literally swap memory

fervent grail
#

easy

jovial kindle
#

guys just give up i already tried to explain to him using literally orbit gum

flat wolf
jovial kindle
#

he didn't listen

flat wolf
fervent grail
#

he is not???

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dude

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shut up

flat wolf
#

No need to get angry.

lost totem
#

Explain how I'm wrong, also look up the definition of swap memory

flat wolf
#

Look at Voltrex, he has still not gotten angry, which proves that he is patient.

flat wolf
fervent grail
#

truth hurts dont come at me

flat wolf
#

I ask of you respectfully.

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Please.

lost totem
#

This also applies to phones

indigo echo
#

I barely can find anything sorry

flat wolf
fervent grail
lost totem
#

Now that you know the definition of swap memory, please explain to me how I'm wrong and how what you're proposing is different

flat wolf
indigo echo
#

Im still taking @lost totem side

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So you said ram plus or like memory extension makes your phone smoother/faster and not slower?

flat wolf
flat wolf
#

What I am trying to prove is that RAM Plus is different from Swap Memory.

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Memory Extension is a similar feature as RAM Plus.

indigo echo
#

Look for one information on the 6 pictures

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The one main information

flat wolf
flat wolf
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The 6th picture right?

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That is what I am trying to say,

flat wolf
lost totem
flat wolf
lost totem
#

And because of the way there two components work, RAM and storage, storage is slower (it depends on the quality of the storage device) it can make things a lot slower depending on what you do

lost totem
#

The naming is making you confused

flat wolf
flat wolf
jovial kindle
#

voltrex give up man every time you're explaining to him he just goes into a loop

flat wolf
#

So basically, in RAM Plus, a part of the storage runs consequently ALONG with the RAM

#

It is literally in the definition.

jovial kindle
#

do you call the am/pm clock as "not a clock" just because it's not in the 24h format?

lost totem
flat wolf
#

What Swap Memory does is literally SWAP the Storage with the RAM and only the STORAGE runs in the place if RAM.

#

brb

jovial kindle
#

that is not how it works

lost totem
#

Let me explain this in an easier way, let's say you have a company that delivers lots of stuff to people and they're delivered by big shipment vehicles specialized for this task (RAM)

But now you're at a point where all of the shipment vehicles are filled and used already and are on their way, but now you have smaller less specialized vehicles for the remaining items to be shipped, these are slower since they're less specialized (storage as RAM, swap memory)

light fiber
# craggy edge

hi
btw 👋 👋 is bye bye in "icewhore" soundtrack in mewing meme
and mew is mew

lost totem
#

Just because you have remaining items to be shipped doesn't mean those specialized vehicles should stop immediately, they're doing their job and these less specialized vehicles are delivering the rest of the items but slower

lost totem
flat wolf
#

Where you Swap the ROM in the place of RAM.

lost totem
#

Do you know what ROM is?

flat wolf
#

I am going to use the same example to show you how RAM Plus or Memory Extension works. Now let me Talk.

flat wolf
lost totem
#

No, ROM is Read-Only Memory

flat wolf
#

Which is the storage.

lost totem
#

Your storage is not read-only

flat wolf
#

It refers to Internal storage.

lost totem
#

Internal storage is not read-only, please look it up

flat wolf
lost totem
#

I wonder if I can send links here

flat wolf
#

Idk.

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But

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Let me use the same example to show you how RAM Plus or Memory Extension works.

flat wolf
#

Does only the Internal storage work in the place of RAM. Or RAM and internal storage work consequently?

lost totem
#

Storage/Internal storage is quite different than ROM, ROM is typically used to store things such as the firmware

flat wolf
jovial kindle
#

even though the rim is the outer edge?

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it's the same thing as here

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it means completely different things but people still use it

jovial kindle
#

it's not a hard concept to grasp

flat wolf
#

Hmm.

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Let Voltrex answer this.

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Until then, I am gonna be out for some work.

#

afk

jovial kindle
#

😭

lost totem
# flat wolf Does only the Internal storage work in the place of RAM. Or RAM and internal sto...

RAM and storage are different components, there are methods to make more memory available to the OS such as swap memory, which uses a portion of the storage device as additional RAM but can be significantly slower because of how storage devices and RAM components differ, it entirely depends on the quality of storage device, since they also have more overhead and logic to handle than RAM components, when they work together like this it is called "swap memory" or "virtual memory"

flat wolf
flat wolf
#

I am gonna brb.

lost totem
#

And after you read the whole thing, the "RAM Plus" or "Memory Extension" features use swap memory to achieve their functionality, the naming confuses you

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An actual memory extension consists of adding more RAM sticks to the hardware instead of just using methods like swap memory, but these features use swap memory to allow you to use more apps at the same time or use things that may require more memory than currently available but can come at the price of performance

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The funny part is that because of how this entire process works, it will eventually make your storage device worn out and worsen it quite a lot as time goes by because of how often it reads and writes to the storage device when it uses it as additional RAM

flat wolf
lost totem
#

Yes

flat wolf
#

With that in mind, does Swap Memory use both RAM and storage at the same time?

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Cuz you said that in the example.

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The whole of RAM is already utilised to the fullest.

flat wolf
#

Thus switching to storage.

lost totem
flat wolf
lost totem
#

Though RAM doesn't have to be fully used, some operating systems can start using swap memory before RAM is fully exhausted

flat wolf
#

What happens in Memory Extension or RAM Plus is that the RAM is not yet utilised to the fullest, but along with the RAM running, it also uses the storage to avoid the RAM to be fully occupied.

lost totem
#

Read the above message

flat wolf
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That is what you call Memory Extension.

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But it does not quite literally swap the internal storage with RAM

lost totem
#

Yes, RAM Plus and Memory Extension is exactly swap memory and not a different feature, it entirely depends on the OS to decide when to start using swap

flat wolf
#

RAM does its normal job, while the storage backs its functioning and contributes.

flat wolf
lost totem
flat wolf
frozen hearth
#

That's partially correct

lost totem
#

Fun fact, if you've ever used Windows and used tools to display usage of memory and swap, you'll see that swap gets used before RAM is exhausted

flat wolf
lost totem
#

It's called swap memory, all of this confusion can be avoided just by doing a little reading online on how swap memory actually works

flat wolf
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I already did, trust me, but the term which you say, "swap" is NOT the correct 'word'

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Alte claims that he is an IT engineer, I would like him to explain the difference between Memory Extension and Swap Memory.

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Although, what you say is true Voltrex, just the term,"swap", is not quite the correct word.

lost totem
# flat wolf No, when both of them are used at the same time, it is called Memory extension. ...

You should check the links I sent earlier, RAM Plus and Memory Extension are merely marketing gimmicks and different names for the exact same thing, swap memory does not require the RAM to be exhausted and merely uses a portion of the storage device to provide additional memory, which the kernel can decide when to utilize
https://serverfault.com/questions/48486/what-is-swap-memory

frozen hearth
#

There are some misconceptions about virtual ram, even more on android devices where they're given stupid misleading names for the sake of marketing.

Zram is a memory "extension" that actually utilizes your physical ram, takes a chunk of it and uses it as a compressed partition. This benefits schedulers like CFQ and Deadline, but it is not as predictable for bg services.

Swap ram is essentially that, a swap file that temporarily stores (cache only) services onto a separate partition, this works best on flash memory and uses LZ0 or LZ4 compression. Few services actually make use of this, and every manufacturer tweaks their swap differently (amount of swappable storage, degree of usage, memory call intervals, etc). Swap is only used for minor processes, if your memory is full it may not be utilized more depending on the use priority that was given (zram is used on that scenario). Storing important tasks on a swap file usually ends with * ded *

flat wolf
#

@lost totem This physical memory, is RAM?

frozen hearth
#

jah

flat wolf
#

Alr

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and the virtual memory here, is the storage,

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right?

frozen hearth
#

prob yes

flat wolf
#

lmao alr

lost totem
#

Exactly

frozen hearth
#

Zram cannot be tweaked since it's part of your kernel

flat wolf
#

Can you differentiate between the two? The memory extension and the Swap Memory?

frozen hearth
#

so, ram plus/ram boost is a simple swap file manager. If you got 8gb or more, feel free to disable it. If you ever spot 7gb of usage, don't worry, some will go to zram, some irrelevant services will put on doze.

If you got 6gb ro lower, you can make use of it, but more than 2gb of swap is pointless

flat wolf
#

You said that a part of which that I said was true, which statement were you referring to?

frozen hearth
#

both of them are used at the same time

flat wolf
#

Just that Swap takes place when RAM is fully utilised, like around 97% or 98%, right?

amber tapirBOT
#
alteito has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

frozen hearth
#

How

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Aight, not typing allat again

flat wolf
#

Yeah, even the simple slurs are not allowed.

frozen hearth
#

fr?

flat wolf
frozen hearth
#

I'm new so idk about those

flat wolf
#

No worries.

frozen hearth
#

Some services will sort to zram instead

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Since swap is much slower

frozen hearth
#

And can cause I/O errors

flat wolf
#

Then what is the gimmick with Memory Extension?

frozen hearth
#

"This affordable phone can do almost anything with 16GB of ram!!"

lost totem
#

I'm pretty sure zram is specific to Linux

flat wolf
flat wolf
frozen hearth
#

not joking

flat wolf
#

Can you elaborate it?

#

Is it really this?

flat wolf
# flat wolf Is it really this?

And even though the definition says it clear that it "Adds 1.0 GB of RAM by occupying storage", I have been confused since some people debated that it quite literally swaps the storage for the RAM.

frozen hearth
#

It's a [___] selling point so they can brand these as "6+6GB Ram" devices to gain some attention from the clueless majority of people, and getting away with it.
x86 systems can make better use of swap files, compressing resources they need at hand for a foreground task can improve performance by a lot with old drives, nowadays not so much but it's still a thing so nothing eats up all your 16gb. Meanwhile, on Android the most you'll ever use is 0.5-1GB

frozen hearth
lost totem
#

It uses a portion of your storage device as additional RAM, swap/page files are used here for this functionality, and since your storage device is slower than your RAM...

flat wolf
#

It uses storage in the place of RAM?

frozen hearth
#

yes, that's what a swap file is. Ram will still be fully utilized though

flat wolf
#

Or it just adds 1 GB of RAM from the storage, just as it says?

frozen hearth
#

h

flat wolf
#

Not the whole storage,

flat wolf
lost totem
#

This is OS-dependent, one OS can first fully utilize the physical RAM and when running low then use the swap/page files, and some OSes can use both at the same time

lost totem
#

Technically the kernel handles this but you get the point

frozen hearth
flat wolf
flat wolf
frozen hearth
flat wolf
#

Since I know that more RAM is required only while playing games, small operations won't use it much.

lost totem
#

If there's enough physical RAM that'll be used and that's that, if it requires more than what is physically available it'll turn to swap/page files

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Which can be slow, given the explanations put forth before

flat wolf
frozen hearth
#

It benefits less relevant things like notification/sync services, small background apps such as overlays, tweakers that run 24/7 like eqs or app managers, some music players, etc

lost totem
#

Yup (to Alte)

flat wolf
#

I see.

frozen hearth
#

If you're playing a game and somehow it eats up most of your ram, some services, including system or relevant apps, will be sent to zram or put to sleep

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If a game would move a stream of it's memory batches to swap memory, it'll have a massive stutter

flat wolf
frozen hearth
#

If not a timeout io crash

frozen hearth
#

but even then, the difference can be from minimal to non existent

flat wolf
flat wolf
frozen hearth
flat wolf
#

RAM is built specifically to increase the speed at which the information from the storage is sent to the processor.

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Meaning that I should probably turn off Memory Extension.

lost totem
#

Given that its performance is also worse than physical RAM

flat wolf
#

Then I would turn that off.

frozen hearth
flat wolf
#

So, in conclusion, are Memory Extension and Swap Memory different, or are they the same?

frozen hearth
#

the same. Swap is the technical name

lost totem
#

Same, yeah

frozen hearth
#

womp

flat wolf
#

And their functioning are the same as well?

frozen hearth
#

waos lvl up I got a role

frozen hearth
flat wolf
#

que?

lost totem
#

Yes

flat wolf
#

I see.

frozen hearth
#

Yes

flat wolf
#

I guess I consumed a lot of brain cells to understand.

#

Voltrex was right all along, they are the same thing.

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You too, Alte.

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You guys are really patient.

lost totem
#

Well that's my 1 hour spent on explaining that, but at least teaching is something I'm proud of

flat wolf
#

I appreciate your help.

flat wolf
lost totem
#

You're welcome

frozen hearth
#

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faint dragon
#

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frozen hearth
#

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faint dragon
#

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#

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dull widget
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craggy edge
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craggy edge
tawdry monolith
#

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untold veldt
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thin relic
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twin remnant
#

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lusty sable
#

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untold veldt
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dull widget
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