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fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 4:23 AM

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I just finished up the build and some mods, I'm curious.

polar ocean Jan 19, 2026, 4:35 AM

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A lot of people would envy such clean single peaks. Mostly me I am cursed.

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How does your belt chart look?

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 4:47 AM

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I installed BFIs, swapped from Moons to LDO, and redesigned the stock XY joints to use 5x18mm pins

weak sentinel Jan 19, 2026, 2:43 PM

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@fleet flume can you post all the graphs please

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We need to the complete story

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 2:44 PM

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weak sentinel <@741710938985594881> can you post all the graphs please

weak sentinel Jan 19, 2026, 2:45 PM

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In y it looks like peak 2 might be your umbilical. Can you post a picture of the front of your printer. And can you print a voron cube as a baseline before we mess with anything please

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 2:49 PM

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I'm having problems with my dragon clogging but I will

weak sentinel Jan 19, 2026, 2:50 PM

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@fleet flume take a look at the post #1308097646786777108 There is a video about umbilical there

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 3:51 PM

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weak sentinel <@741710938985594881> take a look at the post <#1308097646786777108> There is a ...

I'll be re routing it when I get home. Thanks!

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 10:33 PM

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weak sentinel <@741710938985594881> take a look at the post <#1308097646786777108> There is a ...

Good call, looks much better. I've got a new 5015 that doesn't rattle so bad I'll swap in then run the tests again

true crater Jan 19, 2026, 10:51 PM

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fleet flume Good call, looks much better. I've got a new 5015 that doesn't rattle so bad I'...

Is the blue tube with 1.9 ID? Aka Capricorn?

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 10:51 PM

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true crater Is the blue tube with 1.9 ID? Aka Capricorn?

Yes

true crater Jan 19, 2026, 10:51 PM

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fleet flume Yes

Thats not good.

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It causes too much drag on the filament

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We only want 1.9 between extruder and hotend

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Spool to extruder should be >=2.5

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Highly recommend to replace it as this can cause wrong EM and PA values

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 10:52 PM

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Cool. I'll order some

true crater Jan 19, 2026, 10:53 PM

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Totally unrelated to your post but thought i should mention it

true crater Jan 19, 2026, 10:53 PM

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fleet flume Cool. I'll order some

Also make sure to click on your flag in #rules

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 10:53 PM

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Well I'm fighting a clogging issue, too.

true crater Jan 19, 2026, 10:54 PM

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Its quite possible the 1.9 is causing it

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 10:57 PM

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I'm waiting on a better 4010 to get here too. I did order a new 5015, a GDS time hydraulic bearing. I bought it to replace the Doceng that came on the printer. The GDS time uses quite a bit less current so I'm wondering if I should just leave the DOC eng in there

true crater Jan 19, 2026, 10:59 PM

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fleet flume I'm waiting on a better 4010 to get here too. I did order a new 5015, a GDS tim...

Sorry to tell u that but hydraulic bearing is totally not what we want

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They wear out fast under our conditions

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We always want double bearing

true crater Jan 19, 2026, 11:01 PM

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fleet flume I'm waiting on a better 4010 to get here too. I did order a new 5015, a GDS tim...

The best stealthburner fan is Delta BFB0524HH

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Make absolutely sure to buy it from a known good vendor

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A lot of fakes around, especially on amazon

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 11:02 PM

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I'll get one from filastruder

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 11:21 PM

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On the belt comparison. What's the number I'm trying to go for? is 100% achievable? 99+% good?

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weak sentinel Jan 19, 2026, 11:32 PM

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fleet flume On the belt comparison. What's the number I'm trying to go for? is 100% achiev...

Chances are you will not get 100%

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Your belts are fine

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 11:32 PM

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I'm rerunning everything after moving that cable

weak sentinel Jan 19, 2026, 11:32 PM

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All your graphs look good.
Peak 2 Indy is likely umbilical

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 11:38 PM

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This is with pins on the front idlers, and pins in the XY joints with GE5C Z joints. If any of that matters.

true crater Jan 19, 2026, 11:47 PM

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fleet flume

We havent seen a print yet from you

true crater Jan 19, 2026, 11:48 PM

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fleet flume

Read through the guidelines and provide what’s mentioned please #1308097646786777108 message

fleet flume Jan 19, 2026, 11:50 PM

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Yea, I'll try to print something after this is done running. In the midst of this post a clogging issue came back that I thought previously was fixed. I'm waiting on parts so I figured I'd line out I could on input shaping.

true crater Jan 19, 2026, 11:51 PM

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Please dont print “something”, the guidelines mention whats needed to be printed

true crater Jan 19, 2026, 11:53 PM

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fleet flume Yea, I'll try to print something after this is done running. In the midst of th...

Ping me once u solved the clog issue and posted the required things, so we can continue here

fleet flume Jan 23, 2026, 4:09 AM

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true crater Ping me once u solved the clog issue and posted the required things, so we can c...

I'm using the ADXL on the cartographer, but I have one on the Ebb36 I can use, too. It's a Voron 2.4 350. Unrelated update, but the fix to the clog was that the PO had the wrong thermistor type so everything was about 20*C off.

true crater Jan 23, 2026, 8:16 AM

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fleet flume I'm using the ADXL on the cartographer, but I have one on the Ebb36 I can use, t...

Use ebb36 adxl please

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Confirm via klippy.log that its actually being used

weak sentinel Jan 23, 2026, 3:38 PM

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@fleet flume side note: white is horrible for test prints

fleet flume Jan 23, 2026, 3:42 PM

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weak sentinel <@741710938985594881> side note: white is horrible for test prints

@true crater naturally, 😄. I assume black is bad, too? Any specific color?

weak sentinel Jan 23, 2026, 3:54 PM

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Black is okay.

fleet flume Jan 24, 2026, 3:18 AM

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Getting ready to print a Black cube. Quite the difference in readings from the testing when I disable sweeping.

weak sentinel Jan 24, 2026, 4:48 AM

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Y is showing umbilical

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Peak3

fleet flume Jan 24, 2026, 5:02 AM

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Petg seems wet so I tossed it in the dryer.

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ALso, The EBB36 mount I'm using doesn't seem that solid. I found a remixed version that is more rigid so I'm going to try that out. Is there anything I can do about the umbilical showing up?

fleet flume Jan 24, 2026, 5:46 PM

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Going to have to back burner this yet again. The stupid clog is still happening.

fleet flume Jan 27, 2026, 11:01 PM

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I ran input shaping again after putting in the new fans. I dropped accel down to 4,000 from 5,000.

true crater Jan 27, 2026, 11:27 PM

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fleet flume

cube looks wonderful in terms of ringing

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i would say we are done here 🙂

fleet flume Jan 27, 2026, 11:54 PM

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Sounds good, thanks. What would be the next steps if I wanted to squeeze some more accel out of it?

true crater Jan 28, 2026, 12:05 AM

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fleet flume Sounds good, thanks. What would be the next steps if I wanted to squeeze some m...

Monolith gantry + A4T Toolhead

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2WD 9mm

fleet flume Jan 28, 2026, 12:06 AM

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Sounds like 4k is about the limit without a major overhaul.

true crater Jan 28, 2026, 12:11 AM

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fleet flume Sounds like 4k is about the limit without a major overhaul.

Big printer and heavy toolhead woont move fast

fleet flume Jan 28, 2026, 11:48 PM

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I had some Hiwin rails so I decided to swap them in for XY and used the stock Y rails for backers on top of the Y extrusions. It looks like the shape stayed the same but the power changed. Did I gain anything?

weak sentinel Jan 29, 2026, 2:07 AM

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Can you post an updated cube using ei

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 2:14 AM

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But this was with mzv on both, 57.8hz on X and 37.6 on Y.

weak sentinel Jan 29, 2026, 2:15 AM

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@tame lavawhat are your thoughts?

@fleet flume I am not seeing resonance per se. What I am seeing on the right hand side of the prints is more PA.

There might be slight woodgraining going on.

In addition, it might be bad speeds (vibrations profile).

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 2:15 AM

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I retensioned the belts. and ran everything again before printing that black cube.

weak sentinel Jan 29, 2026, 2:15 AM

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run vibrations from 0 to 400 mm/s

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 2:16 AM

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I also noticed my outer wall speed is at 60mm\s and that's right as it's about to hit the fan, too.

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I did rerun a PA test after the grey cube, dropped it from 0.04578 down to 0.038.

weak sentinel Jan 29, 2026, 2:23 AM

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try dropping down to 0.03 with a smooth_time of 0.02

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 2:31 AM

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I will after the 400 mm\s run, taking a bit.

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weak sentinel Jan 29, 2026, 2:54 AM

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This looks really good. Avoid all peaks in angular speed profile

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 2:58 AM

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Looking at that, 60 mm\s should be fine for outer walls so I'll just reprint the same gcode with the PA smooth_time changes.

weak sentinel Jan 29, 2026, 3:16 AM

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I would set outer walls to 120

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60 is to close the rise in the peak

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 3:21 AM

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I'll change that, anything else?

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Same gcode, different PA\smooth time.

weak sentinel Jan 29, 2026, 3:41 AM

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what PA value

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 3:41 AM

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0.03

weak sentinel Jan 29, 2026, 3:42 AM

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what size nozzle

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 3:44 AM

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0.4mm

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CW2 on. Dragon SF

weak sentinel Jan 29, 2026, 3:45 AM

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I think you need to go to #slicers_and_print_help as the issues you are seeing are more print related than resonance related

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The other thing you can try is to switch to EI from mzv

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 3:48 AM

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On both X and Y?

weak sentinel Jan 29, 2026, 4:53 AM

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Yes, ei on both x and y

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 4:56 AM

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Will do. Here's the 120mm/s cube.

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 5:21 AM

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Ran out of filament so I'm switching over to grey again. Looks like it was still there though

weak sentinel Jan 29, 2026, 5:21 AM

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I think #slicers_and_print_help is the place to go

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 5:27 AM

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I'm there, first response was asking about running input shaping, lol

tame lava Jan 29, 2026, 7:24 AM

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Is this tungsten carbide or Diamondback nozzle?

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Gap fill ar 110 mm/s will cause artifacts, it needs to be at 40 mm/s. You can try higher later but I know higher gap fill speeds cause artifacts.

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Check bolts that hold toolhead against the rail and all toolhead bolts, including hotend bolts.

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That repeating pattern after some corners can be loose toolhead or PA related.

fleet flume Jan 29, 2026, 2:15 PM

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tame lava Is this tungsten carbide or Diamondback nozzle?

It's a NozzleX. I'll drop the Gap fill speed down to 40mm\s. Tool head feels nice and tight, no play in any of it.

fleet flume Feb 6, 2026, 7:32 AM

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Not ssure if I should start a new thread or revive this one, so if this is the rong thing to do, sorry. A lot of disassembly and reassembly happened during when ended up being an extruder stepper problem. Now that the dust settled from all that, I can't get my belt comparison any better than this. What would cause that spike on Belt B? I haven't done any other input shaping because of this bad graph. Any ideas on where should I start?

weak sentinel Feb 6, 2026, 2:06 PM

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If your prints look good for you I would stop and enjoy the printer.
can you post pictures of a test print pleas

fleet flume Feb 6, 2026, 2:25 PM

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weak sentinel If your prints look good for you I would stop and enjoy the printer. can you po...

I will after the rest of the input shaping. I didn't know if I should proceed with a difference that big between the belts and I didn't want to waste the time\filament so I figured I would check with you guys.

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