Voron 2.4 Build Log – Tunisia | Working Within Constraints

[earnest aspen]

[rocky ember]

i tried that once and it said some weird error when doing QGL so never again

it gets mad when i dont look

heyy i havent named this machine yettt

hmm need to come up with a name

[earnest aspen]

blue cat

[rocky ember]

on the list def

[gleaming loom]

Mr. Tinkles He's the evil Russion Blue cat from the movie Cats and Dogs

oh nevermind, he's a persian

[rocky ember]

XDDD

[gleaming loom]

the russian blue is the assassin cat lol

[rocky ember]

https://klipy.com/gifs/james-doakes-doakes

why nvm when he turned out to be persian

[gleaming loom]

I mean it would work too lol

[rocky ember]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mike-tyson-herman-cain

/j

[gleaming loom]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cats-and-dogs-evil-does-not-wear-a-bonnet

[rocky ember]

quite the opposite bonnets are PURE evil

dont ask me how

just accept it

[earnest aspen]

https://klipy.com/gifs/elmowg-elmo-cat

[rocky ember]

you need to focus on finishing your build

[earnest aspen]

[rocky ember]

im just really excited how its gonna turn out thats all 😨

[earnest aspen]

I am printing off some parts for it rn :3 defo need to do some more design work

[rocky ember]

excitinggg !! will be waiting on the updates in ur log

https://klipy.com/gifs/thebhatte-the-bhatte

WHERE IS MY CEREAL

[earnest aspen]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-ouch

ask Sanity to get started

[rocky ember]

i prob shouldn't i just uploaded it like 2 hours ago 😭 but i dont see it on the reddit do they need to approve it first before it gets out ?

[bitter wadi]

[rocky ember]

omg its doing a full bed mesh for a minute print 😭 i really need to setup adaptive mesh

[earnest aspen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/voroncorexy/new/
hmm I dont see it either. it should pop up

[rocky ember]

really it shouldve poped up right away ?

will ask sanity later then

[earnest aspen]

within an hour for sure

did automod say something?

[rocky ember]

idk never used reddit before i made an account for this

idk what is automod

[gleaming loom]

I asked Sanity in back channels 🙂

[earnest aspen]

automod is the the bot message, tbh im not too sure how reddit works

[rocky ember]

thankss

i just realised i can PRINT hammer head Tnuts XD

i wont but i CAN

[bitter wadi]

We use it for non structural applications in the prusawire

[rocky ember]

like panel clips perchance ? 👀

[bitter wadi]

You could use them for that but there are other screwless designs

[rocky ember]

oooh ?

show me

[rocky ember]

thats so tuff

im gonna use that PROB not sure but prob

anyways got a wedding to attend to see ya

[dreamy fractal]

if you view your account on reddit it should show you if you've made any posts. sometimes a post with a video upload attachment just doesnt upload right it seems. If you do see a post, drop me a link and I can try to find why it isnt showing up in the sub

[rocky ember]

I couldnt find it even in my posts in my profile thats weird ill try to upload again

@dreamy fractal should be there now after the 4th try

Pretty ugly vid with all the tape tbh 😭

[dreamy fractal]

i shall turn my gaze upon it

[rocky ember]

Thank you taco emperor

I have no idea about the lore behind your name btw

[dreamy fractal]

it is one of life's little mysteries

https://klipy.com/gifs/jobs-done

[radiant drift]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-office-party

Congrats on your serial!

[earnest aspen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/voroncorexy/s/6SdyBjf4OV

[rocky ember]

Yurrrrr

Sickkkk

[earnest aspen]

It was the first post on my reddit! Hah

[rocky ember]

Finally after almost a yearr the job is doneee

[earnest aspen]

Congratsszss on your cult membership

[rocky ember]

Expensive entry

[bitter wadi]

@rocky ember now to print a set of replacement parts, or 2 sets

[rocky ember]

panel clips first u want me to keep the tape look ?

then a set of replacements

how much filament does one cost ?

like 2kgs it uses ?

alsooo

@bitter wadi

my serial has 67

[rocky ember]

why cant i have fusion on linux jeez i gotta open windows now

[rocky ember]

eh why i cant find the parameters ?

[rocky ember]

I dont have small endstop switches so i cooked up this super fast

[uneven canyon]

Reminds me. Dont forget to mount your Y endstop https://www.printables.com/model/324787-voron-v24-and-trident-y-endstop-relocation-mod

Also, for panel clips, these are the bees knees
https://www.printables.com/model/574727-voron-quick-panel-clip
Quick easy print and no hardware required

[rocky ember]

Look at the vid i sent thats what im doing RIGHT NOW 😭😭😭

[rocky ember]

Ohh thankss will print those

[uneven canyon]

I like yours better. Make sure to share it on printables when you are done

[rocky ember]

Thanks will def doo

And that is how it looks

The pei texture looks weird in images with flash xD

Also needed to resize it with a some sand paper and i aded abit of tolerance in the design 😝

[rocky ember]

i looked at the clips u sent and i dont really like em that much i just cant figure out why the parameters for the other clips arent showing

[rocky ember]

really weird orca just decided to forget all my presets and settings

i had to go to the website log in find them in they're .json format and copy them

[uneven canyon]

I believe I have heard of orca loosing profiles before. I figured that was fixed by now.

[rocky ember]

like i connected to it on my windows boot cause i have fusion there and when i came back to linux and logged in it was gone

question @uneven canyon

is it normal for bed mesh to some times vary ?

like once 0.18 range other 0.15 others 0.203

[uneven canyon]

It can vary a bit. especially when the printer is brand new. It will settle down and be consistent after you use it for a bit. It can be exaggerated by removing and replacing the print surface

[rocky ember]

Ahh uh good to know thankss

And about the print surface how do i clean it when i want to clean it and how often should i clean it

[uneven canyon]

clean with just dish soap and water. clean only when you are having adhesion issues.

[rocky ember]

okk notedd

[rocky ember]

first time i need to go out and leave it printing 🤞 nothin bad happens

[rocky ember]

They ended up "fine" ? But all of them have this defect in the same place

[gleaming loom]

Yep, that overhang is pretty notorious for that

[rocky ember]

so i shouldnt worry too much ?

[rain iron]

i think its ok

my V0 had way worse parts than that

BTW nice build

[gleaming loom]

It'll work fine

[rocky ember]

then i will move on noice

[rain iron]

just read the whole page

[rocky ember]

hey look who's here welcome

[rocky ember]

thanks!

[rocky ember]

ALL of it ? its been a long journey so you reading it all means alot

[rain iron]

well mostly looking at the pictures but yeah

niche

When i was building the V0 i only had the marlin V3 se and no experience with ASA. Plus i destroyed my PEI sheet so was printing on an old bathroom mirror.

So the part´s were so warped that i had to reprint everything like 3 times

and also friend with K1 max printed some of em for me

i would not worry about the functional part´s so much. if it doesn´t break under no pressure its fne

the first batch of the V0 parts had a small layershift and they all separated

the layers were crap

[rocky ember]

we good thennn

adaptive bed mesh FTW

[gleaming loom]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cant-see-anything-ken-jeong-1

[rocky ember]

give me smth big to print thennn

i cant think of anything big to print

[gleaming loom]

Planets

[rocky ember]

looks very cool !!

[gleaming loom]

They turned out really nice!

[rocky ember]

make that like ceiling thingy so they float

[uneven canyon]

Spare parts?

[rocky ember]

You know what yeah im gonna start a print after a bit

U think i need to reprint the gantry stuff ? I dont think the z drives will break anytime soom

[uneven canyon]

If it is inside the chamber, print spares. Start with TAP, AB drives, and toolhead. Then XY joints, AB idlers, z idlers

[rocky ember]

got it tap AB toolhead

[rocky ember]

yeahhhh my parts look 1000 times better than the ones i had someone print for me

[gleaming loom]

Tale as old as time Voron

[rocky ember]

i came to the conclusion cus i have one of his old print and they broke with medium force on the layer lines but i tried to break one of mine at the layer lines and the plastic bent not broke after EXTREME force

[gleaming loom]

Yep, my original V0 parts were printed on my ender. The parts for my v2 were much nicer, and the parts both print now are miles better than the v2 could print from the start

[rocky ember]

it will always progress with time !

[rocky ember]

what i dont understand is why do i order m3 hammer head tnuts and they send me m5

https://klipy.com/gifs/pissed-off-angry-3

[rocky ember]

first actuall long print 9hrs done !

my only visible issue with my prints are overhangs i feel

[uneven canyon]

Time to start increasing cooling or slowing down for the overhangs 🙂

[earnest aspen]

show picssssssssssss

sssss

[rocky ember]

i got a pic when it was mid way doing it

[rocky ember]

Is ther a way to calibrate that ?

[uneven canyon]

bump up cooling 25% the next time you print and see if you like it better

[earnest aspen]

the overhangs at the bottom of the voron cube or some other overhang test

[uneven canyon]

Also make sure for your perimeters, you are doing inside first. Not sure what that is in orca though

[rocky ember]

It was something like 85% fan speed on over hangs and i think it starts using that at 25°

[earnest aspen]

is it just me or does that look more like warping? the overhang in the midle there looks fine

[rocky ember]

I have that on inside first yeah

[rocky ember]

Nuh uh

Other side

[rocky ember]

Looks pretty flat to me

[rocky ember]

Hmm

Idk really

[earnest aspen]

it does seem like you need more cooling in some other spots here tho

[rocky ember]

Even small parts with over hangs have it

[earnest aspen]

oh it is pretty flat.. oke maybe the corner/part curled up because of not enough cooling

[rocky ember]

Yeah should be the cooling part

Gotta add it in config now

Also did under z and i added chamber thermistor

[earnest aspen]

you did all that but not z-umbilical

[rocky ember]

sadly i dont have like the mesh thing that unravels yk ? i have the kind where its like a tube

[earnest aspen]

oh rip

[rocky ember]

eh how do i add the chamber therm to my config 🙂

[earnest aspen]

[temperature_sensor chamberRear]
sensor_type: Generic 3950
sensor_pin: PA7
min_temp: -40
max_temp: 100


[temperature_sensor chamberTool1]
sensor_type:MAX31865
sensor_pin: EBB1: PA4
spi_bus: spi1
rtd_nominal_r: 100
rtd_reference_r: 430
rtd_num_of_wires: 2

something like that, 2nd one is for the MAX chip on the EBB

make sure you set your dip switches correctly on it for whichever thermistro u do

[rocky ember]

i dont have a MAX chip

and the thermistor i got i dont think its working 🙂

it reading 6000 degrees

[earnest aspen]

what kind of thermistor?

u can measure the resistance with a multimeter and see if it makes sense

likely you have the wrong sensor_type

[rocky ember]

its advertised as Thermistance 100K pour imprimante 3D Creality K1 et K1 Max but my multimeter is with a friend so when i get it i will messure it

[rocky ember]

could be yeah

i dont even want a chamber thermistor that bad

[earnest aspen]

But you need it

[rocky ember]

i dont

ill just settle with 5 min soak after i heat soak it myself till thermistor on hotend says 50

also i think in the near future i wanna do a pico mmu

[earnest aspen]

if you want to print abs you need it

[rocky ember]

huh ? im printing abs just fine now no ?

[radiant drift]

Was the pull-up on the board different causing the strange temp reading?

[rocky ember]

elaborate i dont understand 🙂

[earnest aspen]

low chamber temp makes weaker parts

[rocky ember]

ahh yeah for sure but i would guess if i dont mind waiting the time and doing the soaking on my own then its fine ? and whats LOW is 60 chamber okay ?

cause 60 is about what my nozzle gets to after i manually soak it and wait the 5 min is print start

[radiant drift]

A voltage divider is created between the pull of resistor and the thermistor. If one of the values is wrong the results in temperature not math out correctly.

[rocky ember]

and where do i change that value ?

[radiant drift]

What value is on the board?

[rocky ember]

im very sorry but idk where to look for that 😭

where exactly can i see my current value

ahh uh

this ?

i am using th3

[radiant drift]

With or without the jumper?

Klipper assumes 4.7K by default if not configured.

[rocky ember]

i have no jumper on board

and btw the bed thernmistor that is on TH1 works just fine

[rocky ember]

been stuck at hotend 150 for a while now

i tried to do PID_CALIBRATE HEATER=extruder TARGET=245

and saved it and still same

[rocky ember]

i rebooted and it is fine

[rocky ember]

Phone stand for the dad

[bitter wadi]

[rocky ember]

i have a feeling my 4010 fans are TRASH

[rocky ember]

i think we have a slight issue with the toolhead board

I have to resolder them i guess

I hope non of the small caps or resistors get out

[bitter wadi]

Which port is that and what were you using it for?

[rocky ember]

its a fan port it was for the part cooling

[barren cedar]

I’d worry that the pcb pads had ripped off. Can you take a few still photos

[bitter wadi]

So it is critical

[rocky ember]

i think so

hold on

is it done for ?

[barren cedar]

It’s dead Jim

[bitter wadi]

https://klipy.com/gifs/office-83

[barren cedar]

The pcb pads have been ripped off the pcb, probably by forcing the plug into the socket at the wrong angle or similar.

It is in theory repairable but you’d need to have access to micro soldering equipment and the experience to use it.

[rocky ember]

ugh

well this sucks

so my options repair it or just do all wires back to main board

[bitter wadi]

@rocky ember what's the ability of getting custom made pcbs

[rocky ember]

i can max 2 layers

[bitter wadi]

Cause you could use the xol toolhead board

Not sure how many layers it needs

And it uses that large crip that you struggled with

[rocky ember]

also i cant source those crimps

i could run two wires back to the main board just for the part cooling no ?

@bitter wadi

can i ?

[barren cedar]

its certainly an option if you have some appropriate wire and can manage the extra mess properly

[rocky ember]

than ill do that for now

[earnest aspen]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-evil-2

[rocky ember]

Not the best nor is it the prettiest ut it works

Also weirdly this might be a good thing the fans are much faster now 😭

[barren cedar]

Double check the voltage settings are correct and you’re not going to kill your fans too

[earnest aspen]

It shouldn't be faster for sure

[rocky ember]

They are 24v fans and the board with no jumper is 24

[rocky ember]

Maybe because the port on the ebb was not teally that good it had more resistance? Or does it not work like that

[earnest aspen]

Could be a poor connection earlier 🤔

[rocky ember]

Yes i think so cause from the START that port was wobly AF

[earnest aspen]

I wonder if btt would send you a replacement then since it was defective

[uneven canyon]

hahahahahaha. hahahahahahaha... Sorry.

I am pretty sure they would do it if there were a way for them to import it easily.

[rocky ember]

Should i ask

[earnest aspen]

"yes pls send my rma to Antarctica" they might just do it!

[rocky ember]

But it was sent to my uncle XD and it was from a store called zen 3d it had the least shipment time

[uneven canyon]

If nothing else it could get one queued up for his next visit.

Which, it might be a good idea to save up some and plan a shopping list of some common things like JST connectors, microfits, etc. and try to bulk purchase

[rocky ember]

Hmmm yes sounds like a really good plan gather all the stuff i would need like replacement maybe even another control board aswell

I mean i will try to contact btt

also my dad loved the phone stand its nice to print smth for people

first thing he said after he used it abit "hey how much did this cost you" XD typical dad thing to ask

[rocky ember]

also big thing on the list will be a better hotend

[radiant drift]

Once you get a replacement, it could be worth attempting to repair this one as it may just need some wire added.

Or just keeping using it as you are.👍

[rocky ember]

if i get a replacement ill even try sending it to a repair shop but for now as it is im happy that it functions

[radiant drift]

Exactly. A working printer is a working printer.

[rocky ember]

note to myself if smth is designed to be printed in pla just YOLO ing it and printing it in ABS wont work

[bitter wadi]

yup

shrankage is a thang

you doing ok?

[rocky ember]

im fantastic thanks almost done with my first spool althought im tryng to figure out how to stop these weird overhangs will prob ping abunch of you people tmrw for help

[bitter wadi]

if its slicer stuff, may i sugest you look at #slicers_and_print_help

[rocky ember]

ofc will be the first place i go to

[rocky ember]

I transferred the printer to a spare room we have and its like its asking me to do an exhaust system for it

Also im really pissed with the reliability of my can cable

[rocky ember]

Im seriously thinkin of either removing the toolhead board or unsoldering the main connector for smth else

i can get it to start print but i have to redo it every time it gives an error cause of the cable

a LOAD of zip ties are helping

yup thats it

im gonna go fully wired or figure a solution

[radiant drift]

Is this one you made?

[rocky ember]

the hole in the wall ?

or the cable

if the cable yeah

[radiant drift]

What's the restart method in the MCU defination?

[rocky ember]

but sadly i cant find any microfit connectors localy 🙂

[radiant drift]

Any more details or photos of construction of the cable?

[rocky ember]

i cant right now cause its all in hotglue mess that worked for some time

didnt really work but it wasnt this bad

[radiant drift]

OK.

I was not sure if it was the cable itself or the crimping of the connectors.

[rocky ember]

i think its the crimping ? cause when i push the cable in more it works but when i let go and it goes to home or when it prints i think the vibrate loose or smth

[radiant drift]

Yeah. That sounds fixable without making a new harness possibly.

[rocky ember]

with new crimps no ?

but the thing is the small metal thingies i dont have anymore of them

[radiant drift]

The other thing I would do would be to make a strain relief to take the movement off the wires (add a loop in the cable to de-stress).

[rocky ember]

hmm that does sound like a viable option i will try this first thing tmrw cause today im super frustrated with it 🙂 you know how it is

[rocky ember]

ah uh very neet way to do it

[rocky ember]

@radiant drift friend i think a simple loop fixed it

Not 100% sure yet

But its promising

[radiant drift]

Yeah, then you have more area to disturb the force that goes through the strain relief.

[rocky ember]

And to test it but not in a print i did a speed test so it will mimick some of the vibrations and movement of when its printing and its good so far

🤞🏻 it stays like that

The toolhead board didnt kill a print but the STEG decided well lets cut the power off

[rocky ember]

it sure does suck to live in tunisia but a whole year of college costs 25$ XD

[rocky ember]

i ordered new 4010 fans to see if maybe they have better cooling than these trash ones i have and also got 5015 so if they arent i look into a 5015 toolhead