Voron 2.4 Build Log – Tunisia | Working Within Constraints

[bitter wadi]

If you can get one

[rocky ember]

i mean i can it will cost quite abit but i can

[bitter wadi]

it might be worth it once you have the machine moving

also, whats your plan for keeping the cb1/2 cool?

[rocky ember]

but i have a question when the ups takes over can i like um tell klipper to pause and when power comes back to resume ? cause the black outs are like 30 mins minimum

[bitter wadi]

so the downside with klipper is that when the klipper is killed, the print dies

[rocky ember]

it has the heatsink on it and with the like 4 fans in the skirts would it not be fine ? if not ill add a fan over it

[rocky ember]

oh so when the ups takes over it cant save where it is on the print ?

[bitter wadi]

you should be fine unless you start getting to 40c ambiaent

then you might run into problems

[rocky ember]

lol the weather is 41C

[bitter wadi]

so as long as the CB, manta and the ebb have power, you will be fine. if you loose power, your print will die

[rocky ember]

yikes

um lets say i dont use the EBB just a thought does the other stuff support RRF

[bitter wadi]

not seeing manta compatibility

[rocky ember]

so i guess its not really an option

[bitter wadi]

yup

darn

well we tried

[rocky ember]

well i got a gasoline generator 😭

but that wont work cause it will already be shut down

[bitter wadi]

Hence the ups

[rocky ember]

will look into a good UPS with a good runtime when its working 👍

[rocky ember]

@bitter wadi been with no lights since 12:30 😝

45mins no lights yay

[radiant drift]

If you connect a UPS to a server like home assistant, you could send a pause command when the UPS is on battery, turn off the hotend but I’d be tempted to keep the bed warm as otherwise you could still potentially loose the print if the parts detach from the bed. Motors will need to stay engaged as well.

[rocky ember]

@uneven canyon i saw some people use some sort of idk what it is silicone or what to secure the flex heater do i need that or can i do without it ? if so what is that just silicone ?

[uneven canyon]

High temperature RTV is commonly used

The heaters usually come with adhesive sheet. Sealing the edges with RTV is very common

[rocky ember]

https://sea.com.tn/entretien-auto/rtv-silicone-haute-temp-ss-2400.html

is this it ?

[rocky ember]

so i should use it then ok

[uneven canyon]

Yup

Apply it outdoors, or a place with good ventilation. It smells horrible

[rocky ember]

yup to that i should use it or yup to yes that is the correct product

[uneven canyon]

Yes correct product and I believe it should be used

[rocky ember]

YIPPIE first time its actually the right product when i try to find smth

[rocky ember]

bruh the site doesnt do delivery why tf are u an online store then

https://www.technoquip-tn.com/shop/silicone-haute-temperature-rtv-58811#attribute_values=24142,25925

https://www.ceg.tn/silicone/tube-silicone-haute-temperature-ht300-1164.html

@uneven canyon i found these other two

[uneven canyon]

Those should be fine. Red high temp is your search criteria

[rocky ember]

ohh so not specific one cool that makes it much easier

[uneven canyon]

Yeh the high temp ones are usually red

[rocky ember]

interesting the panels guy just ghosted me XD

[bitter wadi]

[rocky ember]

meh idc really like i havent even paid him yet so i dont get why XD

[rocky ember]

@uneven canyon @bitter wadi for the panels some weird like adhesive thing is used for squish how big is that

[uneven canyon]

Foam tape. 3mm thick, 5mm wide adhesive on one side only

[rocky ember]

We are so back 🤙🏻

@uneven canyon im gonna clean it and apply magnetic first than do heater let it rest on some weight and tomorrow when the gasket sealant arrive do that thats good plan ?

All the stock of 6x3mm

[uneven canyon]

Yep, magnet first since it is flat

[rocky ember]

How long do i leave it like dis

This is the setup after i applied the magnet 😭

[uneven canyon]

15 minutes is more than enough.

[rocky ember]

OH

The alu plate is slightly bigger than 350 so the magnet is slightly not covering it all but the aound is satisfying

time to do the heater now wish me luck

[rocky ember]

Done gonna put the wood and the weight on it now 😝

@uneven canyon how long do i leave this one like this

[rocky ember]

Ldo rails feel way different than cheap ahh rails i have 😭

[rocky ember]

Feom where do i leave 2.5 mm ?

[bitter wadi]

Listen, you can always upgrade

[rocky ember]

For sure

[uneven canyon]

These screws

[rocky ember]

yeah i know but it said to leave 2.5mm im asking from what end look at the arrows in my pic

[rocky ember]

um @uneven canyon remember those belt clips ? in the like toolhead i tried to use the m3 screw but there is nowhere to make thread its loose

[uneven canyon]

from the head of the screw.

[uneven canyon]

I believe there should be a heatset insert on the back? Let me look at the tap manual real quick

[rocky ember]

oh that would make sense

but the manual i have doesnt have these like clips has where to insert belts so i didnt find it

[uneven canyon]

Oh... no belt clips this is stock tap. The belts are held in place when the assembly is tightened to the carriage.

[rocky ember]

uh what that mean ?

[uneven canyon]

it means you feed the belts through from the back like in this picture. then when you have them with light tension, you screw the assembly to the linear rail carriage

[rocky ember]

That's not the one i have

I dont have the extra place where belts go to from the feont

[uneven canyon]

ok. let me dig up old manuals

[rocky ember]

thanks

[uneven canyon]

YOu need to install two hex nuts here

[rocky ember]

Yayy

Thanks

[uneven canyon]

NP

[rocky ember]

bruh a m3x8 bhcs wont go in but a SHCS m3x8 will imma use that

ahnd see if i run into an issue with it

[uneven canyon]

You may... we will see 🙂

[rocky ember]

SHCS will NOT work

@uneven canyon btw i should do double magnet right ?

[uneven canyon]

start with single magnet for now. You can always change it later

[rocky ember]

oh okay its just i thought ldo gave me 4 cause they rec that but ill do one

[uneven canyon]

They give you both the screws and the magnets so you can choose. using 4 magnets increases the actuation force required. No reason to do that yet.

[rocky ember]

holy moly

with one magnet and screw its 0 pulling force when i like lift it

[uneven canyon]

it is supposed to be very light. YOu have to remember that you will have the entire weight of the toolhead on there as well.

[rocky ember]

its not light pulling its actually 0 pulling like it stays on top do i keep it like that ?

[uneven canyon]

When you follow the guide, there will be a section on adjusting the magnets. make sure that you installed the magnetic screws BTW

[rocky ember]

hmmm will go look into the guide again i guess

[uneven canyon]

are the flathead screws you installed magnetic?

[rocky ember]

yeah but i guess when i install the toolhead i will figure out what to do

[uneven canyon]

If they are magnetic, I would continue on with the guide. There is going to be a point where you are going to release the magnets to seat properly against the screws. Yes, it should feel like almost zero resistance.

[rocky ember]

@uneven canyon is there a printed version of this ? if not whats the alternative

[uneven canyon]

There is. it is called PUG. The other option is to remove the connector on the other end so you can feed it through. It does require you to recrimp the connector when done though.

[rocky ember]

does it need to be printed in tpu or smth soft ?

[uneven canyon]

TPU is common for them. I have also seen ABS.

[rocky ember]

abs would work ??

wont it break or smth ?

[uneven canyon]

Yep. it will be fine. Is the connector already on the other side so you can't fit it through?

[rocky ember]

uh wdym on what side ?

i still havent ran anything from the toolhead to the main board if thats what u are asking

[uneven canyon]

the cable that goes through there, should have the connecter off the other side so you can feed the cable through that gland

[rocky ember]

ahh okk then i wont crimp anything until i print that

do u happen to know any good "pug" that i can print in abslike a link for a stl

[uneven canyon]

You can feed the cable through the gland that you have? no need to print anythign though.

[rocky ember]

i dont have a gland

[uneven canyon]

Ahhhh.

[rocky ember]

the spiraly thingy

[uneven canyon]

thats not your pic. 🙂

yeah. once you have the machine running, we can work to get those done

[rocky ember]

nooo if i had it why would i ask is there a printed version XD

[rocky ember]

so i dont need that pug or gland thingy for now ?

[uneven canyon]

Nah, you can just zip tie it in place for a print or two.

[rocky ember]

sick

https://www.printables.com/model/838596-voron-24-y-endstop-switch-holder/files

gonna print this for Y enstop

i have that place where he screwed it in

[uneven canyon]

Here is the PUG https://www.printables.com/model/378567-pug-parametric-umbilical-gland

[rocky ember]

@uneven canyon this one good or do i look for smth else ?

[uneven canyon]

As long as your umbilical is going to go up and out of the exhaust, that is as good a location as any

[rocky ember]

yeahhhh thats also smth i wanted to ask u think from the exhauset better or from there in the cable chain >

[uneven canyon]

exhaust.

[rocky ember]

okk will look for the exhaust thingy then to also print

[uneven canyon]

https://www.printables.com/model/1162435-voron-exhaust-cover-with-pug-and-ptfe-passthrough

[rocky ember]

thanks

[rocky ember]

@uneven canyon do i need to reflash my main board to use the toolhead board ?

[uneven canyon]

Which toolhead board are you using?

generally no though

[rocky ember]

EBB36 1.2

[uneven canyon]

did it come with a U2C board?

[rocky ember]

no im using the can port on my M8P v2

[uneven canyon]

Yeah. I have no clue how those work. I would suggest asking in #can_and_usb_toolhead_boards. the CAN geeks hang out there

[rocky ember]

shiiii i have to reflash it all jeez

[rocky ember]

next time i say i want a toolhead board please hit me @uneven canyon

[rocky ember]

The one thing u guys hate about my build i fixed

But ugh the gasket sealent is no where to be found i guess will be delivered tmrw or smth

[bitter wadi]

You could always try printing out of tpu

[rocky ember]

Huh?

Print gasket sealent for the heated bed out of tpu ? 😭 I think u replied to smth wrong

[bitter wadi]

Ohh

Yeah thats not gonna work

[rocky ember]

[rocky ember]

I love magnets

[bitter wadi]

https://klipy.com/gifs/magic-how-do-they-work

[rocky ember]

magic

[radiant drift]

Hate is a strong word. I had long term reliability concerns with the steel core belt. You would have been able to make parts but for how long was the question.

[rocky ember]

now we wont have to worry 👍

[rocky ember]

i just figured this out

belt black DOES NOT mean belt in fiberglass core 😭

i guess when shitty steel core belt breaks i can replace it with another shitty one 😭

[bitter wadi]

Is this the z belt?

[rocky ember]

yeah

im not that sad cause its on z which is way better than if it wouldve been on AB

[uneven canyon]

On Z I wouldn't worry about it. Just have spares