video-games

[crimson fossil]

but again, if pro switch was as hard to get as ps5 id still stfu because at least it would be a thjing

[polar dragon]

preemptive F because graphics card shortage

[scenic wigeon]

oh no way, really?

[crimson fossil]

right! why spend 400 on a ps5 when you can spend 3000 on a pc amirite

[scenic wigeon]

dang, that sucks

oh well, more time waiting means more money earned

[quartz hatch]

there's plenty of cheaper alternatives than 3k jlskdfj, plus there's a bunch of games that only release on PC and/or are best played on there

it's a personal choice

[glossy coral]

hades on pc seems like a dream, especially considering that modding is essentially pc only

[quartz hatch]

plus for me personally, i don't see the PS5 as a must-have console as of now. sure it has demon's souls remake, but most other titles sony has planned for it are narrative driven cinematic games and those aren't my cup of tea

[scenic wigeon]

I got Hades on PC

and I haven't modded it yet I don't know what I should do

[crimson fossil]

i got hades pc and ps5, same sheet different monitor tbh

[quartz hatch]

i want a "casul" death screen 😔

[broken smelt]

To add to this, pc is slowly but surely getting some of the ps exclusives

[scenic wigeon]

and I am super happy

I got to play Horizon and Days Gone and I loved those games

[crimson fossil]

right, but again for 400 bucks, youre getting essentially a 1200 dollar pc. and thats just a fact

[glossy coral]

is there a modding scene for hades outside of QoL like forcing dialogue or seeds?

[crimson fossil]

for someone like me who isnt willing to invest into a pc, its the best alternitave

[quartz hatch]

yeah man, that's totally cool

[crimson fossil]

im no ps fanboy, but its a good ass deal if you can get one

[quartz hatch]

i don't blame you at all

to each their own, both when it comes to your preferences and wallets

[broken smelt]

Yes and no, it's really hard to determine value like that
At the end of it its a personal preference thing

[scenic wigeon]

it do got that Ray Tracing though

if there's one thing I've ever needed in my day-to-day existence it's tracing dem rays

[broken smelt]

Rn, building your own pc or getting decently specced prebuild at a reasonable price ain't really an option purely because the gpu marked is so messed up

[quartz hatch]

i get a PS5 the second fromsoftware announces bloodborne 2 exclusively for PS5

like oKAY now i gotta i guess!!

which i'm afraid will never happen 😔

[crimson fossil]

it sucks when it comes to fgs like gg strive though, where ps has like 300% input delay as pc, even though its still pretty negligable, unless youre literally playing a pro level, it hurts to know that

[scenic wigeon]

there have been rumors about Bloodborne PC port

[woven relic]

more like wishes about Bloodborne...

[scenic wigeon]

yeah

fair

[quartz hatch]

every day i send miyazaki emails

[broken smelt]

But depending on the games one playing, you can build a decent gaming rig using 2nd hand parts for quite cheap

[lusty pendant]

Better to check the modding server

[scenic wigeon]

oh yeah I heard that Uncharted 4 & The Lost Legacy is coming to PC

[crimson fossil]

i play dmc5 at 120fps raytracing on ps5, again for a 400 dollar console, i aint touching those specs on pc for less than a grand

[quartz hatch]

i'm pretty excited for Elden Ring though

[scenic wigeon]

now that's a dang good idea

[lusty pendant]

PC is also not that practical if you're moving around a lot

[quartz hatch]

hope it runs properly on my base ps4

god speed

[broken smelt]

That's where mini-ITX builds are incredible

[scenic wigeon]

hey speaking of godspeed y'all played The Messenger?

[crimson fossil]

u still playing a P(easant)S4?

[quartz hatch]

Well...yes

[crimson fossil]

ahhah im just talkin smack

[quartz hatch]

i'm quite content with it until I get my upgrade

[woven relic]

not like PS5s are easy to find...

[quartz hatch]

i got mine before the ps4 pro came out

[broken smelt]

This is mostly due to a couple of things, DMC 5 is incredibly well optimised and consoles dynamically change the rendered (or was it native idqr) resolution to ensure a smooth gameplay experience

[scenic wigeon]

truth

[woven relic]

and it needs a few more exclusives before I jump in, personally

[scenic wigeon]

I hope one day I can get a PS5 and foce my Dad to play The Last of Us

[quartz hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-well-where-is-it-looking-for-something-gif-5291661

me looking for a PS5

[crimson fossil]

join a ps5 stock discord. i hunted for a ps5 for 3 months day in and day out. joind one of those discords, got one in 4 days. told a friend at work, he got one that day, and another 3 days later for his girl

[quartz hatch]

i've been into several stores over the past year shopping for other things and walking past the PS5 section out of curiosity

and i have nEVER seen one for sale anywhere omg

[scenic wigeon]

saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

[broken smelt]

So its really hard to accurately compare console to ps5

[woven relic]

TLoU is a PS3 game, though

[wraith cradle]

Gamedec finished 8.5

[quartz hatch]

same with the xbox series x

[scenic wigeon]

yeah but the Remastered

[polar dragon]

saying ps5 is better than pc because of DMC is like saying AMD is better than NVIDIA because of Doom (2016) performance

[quartz hatch]

never seen one in the flesh

[wraith cradle]

Glad I KS'it

[scenic wigeon]

also I want to only get one PS console

[polar dragon]

it's a non sequitur

[crimson fossil]

either way, 400 bucks gets me 120fps with ray tracing lol. good luck getting comperable experience for even double that price on pc. i understand pc is more than games and has infinte potential, but for gaming on the cheap, comeon. its unbeatable

[crimson fossil]

its just 1 example. and your ignoring the 1/3rd or less price bracket

[polar dragon]

well ps5 is $500

[wraith cradle]

Am I the only one whose main priority on choosing console is the exclusive games I can buy/get from it?

[scenic wigeon]

dang I want to say something to that but eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

[woven relic]

yea, consoles are more affordable, relative to PCs, especially in the early years of a console

[scenic wigeon]

nah

I do that too

[crimson fossil]

digital

[scenic wigeon]

this is why I don't buy Xbox

[woven relic]

yea, exclusives for me, plz

[broken smelt]

Ngl, I don't believe dmc 5 on console can run at 120fps with RT without comprimises somewhere

[scenic wigeon]

120fps with ray tracing on one game

[wraith cradle]

Luckily 90% of great games come to pc.... Eventually

[scenic wigeon]

I did it anyway

[scenic wigeon]

indeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

[wraith cradle]

There are only 2 exclusive PS games I'm interested

[polar dragon]

it looks like that's true

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-devil-may-cry-5-ps5-xbox-series-x-comparison

[wraith cradle]

And that from memory

[scenic wigeon]

I got a long list

[woven relic]

the 10% that doesn't, I buy a console for

[crimson fossil]

120 no ray on crucible on destiny 2. 60 4khrd on literally everythjing else

[polar dragon]

same upscaling involved, but 1080p 120fps upscaled is respectable

[wraith cradle]

Bloodborne and Aegis Rim are the only games I would buy a PS for

[polar dragon]

at least i did not expected it myself

[broken smelt]

RT (depending on how its implimented) has been shown to significantly hamper performance time and time again, with current hardware

[scenic wigeon]

That Last of Us 1 & 2 (don't judge me please), God of War, Spider-Man, Spider-Man Miles Morales, Uncharted 1-LL

and also the ones coming out

[woven relic]

Spiderman 2, too

[scenic wigeon]

yee

[crimson fossil]

precicely. its obv gonna be 1080. again its 400 bucks lmao

[scenic wigeon]

Spider-Man 2 fits into this

[wraith cradle]

I already have a PS3 so yeah except TLOU 1 that I already have those are good choices

Although the only one I could be interested is GoW

The thing is I wouldn't buy a console for them

[scenic wigeon]

I have played The Last of Us through PSNow but I want to play it without input delay

it's not awful

[wraith cradle]

I would for 5 bloodbornes and 5 Aegis Rims

[scenic wigeon]

but I also want to play Grounded Mode and the DLC

[woven relic]

I got a year of PS Now, to play through all the PS3 games I missed (never got a PS3)

[wraith cradle]

I'm actually glad the Final Fantasies ended coming to PC, those I were interested in

[scenic wigeon]

oh yeah

[crimson fossil]

gow and horizon are pretty much system sellers for me tbh. if it was betwwen those or halo, meh, ill take the ps, and get the gran turismo, and the other misc ps exclusives(spiderman and whatever else, thb i dont even care about those lol)

[scenic wigeon]

FFVII

that's on my radar

[wraith cradle]

Same as Sunset Overdrive, THE good xbox exclusive

[scenic wigeon]

but I think I'm gonna wait for the WHOOOOOOOOOOLE saga to come out

[scenic wigeon]

that's also on Steam

[woven relic]

that might take a while, haha

[scenic wigeon]

I'm a patient

not the medical kind

[wraith cradle]

Yeah, that's why I'm glad it stopped being a xbox exclusive

[scenic wigeon]

Horizon was pretty cool

I liked it

[crimson fossil]

im SO HYPE for gran turismo 7. i got a racing sim rig, my life will be gone when its out

[wraith cradle]

My point is that most exclusives end in the sweet embrace of PC

[scenic wigeon]

but that's also on PC

[scenic wigeon]

yeah

[woven relic]

Horizon was cool, yea

[scenic wigeon]

I honestly hate and love exclusives

[woven relic]

there's a cruel lack of dinosaurs/robots in the industry, imho

[crimson fossil]

was tsushima and sekiro multi platform? those ruled too

[wraith cradle]

Sunset overdrive

XBOX
October 31, 2014
Microsoft Windows
WW: November 16, 2018

[scenic wigeon]

Tsushima no

[wraith cradle]

Almost 4 years as exclusive

[scenic wigeon]

Sekiro yes

I got Sekiro

[wraith cradle]

Nice game

9.5

[crimson fossil]

nice, those are must plays as well

[broken smelt]

Sekiro yes, sekiro was multiplatform on release

[wraith cradle]

Because different publisher

[scenic wigeon]

it's on my WL, I'm waiting for a sale

[scenic wigeon]

bad publisher

I'm happy I swept up the game before the uh...
controversy...

[wraith cradle]

Yeah, yeah

Shame no DLC to be honest

Their xpacs are top notch

[crimson fossil]

plus i doubt the next true persona game(excluding the maybe someday smt5 on switch lol) will be ps as well. im a lowkey weeb and ps has all the dopest rpgs

[scenic wigeon]

there's gotta be DLC

[wraith cradle]

Sekiro? At this point the chances are nil

[scenic wigeon]

oh there's actually no DLC

dang

[crimson fossil]

im so happy hades is on literally everything. it really is the best game.

[scenic wigeon]

based

best video game

[wraith cradle]

Wrong, DOOM 1 is in everything, Hades can't run in my polaroid

[broken smelt]

Lmao, it might if you try hard enough

[wraith cradle]

Hades demake

Anyhow

Gotta start Eastward tomorrow

And I'll continue Berseria calmly

I'm making time for the 28

So I can play the GOATEST game again

[polar dragon]

Hades is not on the GBA

[scenic wigeon]

DOOM Hades
can run on calculator can't run on calculator

conclusion

[crimson fossil]

hades is the literal only game that can make me say 1 more run, 9 times in a row, and lose 4 hours of sleep, multiple times a week lmao

[scenic wigeon]

Cars Mater-National is better that both of them

[wraith cradle]

Remember Nightmare House 2? That famous Half Life mod?

[polar dragon]

Switch Steam Deck
Can't run LoL Can run LoL
Conclusion
Switch wins

[wraith cradle]

Their creators are releasing a game next week

[scenic wigeon]

I have a friend that plays League and I sent that to him

I think he laughed at it

[wraith cradle]

In Sound Mind is called

Seems interesting

God NH2 was from a time I get spooked easily

[scenic wigeon]

alright
I'm out

[crimson fossil]

haha LoL and that entire genre of game is just impossible for me to get into. even watching high level guys on twitch is just paint drying to me.

[scenic wigeon]

I'm gonna go play some DOOM Eternal

fantastic video game

[wraith cradle]

Fun fact the first game I bought in Steam was a MOBA

And the best MOBA I ever played

[crimson fossil]

im gonna play some blazblue, enjoy the debates playas!

[wraith cradle]

Anyone here played Awesomenauts?

The game came out in 2012 and bought i back in 2014

[glossy coral]

yeah i rememberthat

[wraith cradle]

That game was my true jam

[woven relic]

I played a few hours, probably during a free weekend

short and sweet rounds

I can't do DOTA 2 anymore, with 90-min games

[wraith cradle]

Yeah I played HoTS cause I preferred the short and intense games

[woven relic]

oh yea, HotS was a nice change of pace from DOTA2, too

[polar dragon]

i love hots

i love playing brain dead champs like raynor

[sleek quiver]

Oh, the Nintendo Direct was at 6am tomorrow at my time zone. Guess I won’t be watching it lol

[woven relic]

not live, at least

I still like to spend time to watch things like that, even after they air

get some hype, haha

[wraith cradle]

Varian Dual Wield

Now, that was the deal

[polar dragon]

i dont own a switch so that means nothing to me

[sleek quiver]

Yeah, I’ll just be bombarded by news that I will carefully not pay attention for until I have time to watch it lol

[polar dragon]

Silksong news

Is likely

[sleek quiver]

I still don’t understand why Silksong is always speculated on a Nintendo Direct

Like it’s an exclusive lmao

[woven relic]

Switch is a good place for indies, that must be why

[sleek quiver]

I guess so

So many indie gems on the Switch that I would otherwise not be able to play since Switch is all I have

[crimson fossil]

switch for indies i feel is its true home. trying to make high tier demanding games just makes the system look like garbo. but for indies on the go, who could ask for more. thats 99% the reason im getting a deck. for indies. theyre legit my favorite thing. ill play AAA games at home on my baller tv, but my fav pixle art indies on the go is glorious

[sleek quiver]

Older games as well

I played Witcher 3 first on the Switch

Doesn’t look as good lol

But it works

[quartz hatch]

i love just laying down on my couch playing handheld also for most switch games

[lethal drift]

The best feeling

[broken smelt]

Awesomenoots Pog

One of 2 mobas in I'm not terrible at

[wraith cradle]

What's the other one?

[woven relic]

nice theory

they're probably just held back by Covid

[crimson fossil]

oh held back by that thing that 90% effects people 35 years older than the average age of pepople working in the field?

lol, jk. kinda

[woven relic]

dunno how long they worked on the original game...

[near aurora]

Silksong isn’t held back by covid at all

They already worked from home

also hasn’t even been 3 years since announcement

[elder arrow]

3 years

[rancid token]

Well Hungry Knight was a 2013 Game Jam project

So three or four solid years, yeah

[elder arrow]

hungry knight tho

[woven breach]

A knight from hungry?

[broken smelt]

Battlerite, sorry just saw this

[wraith cradle]

np

[broken smelt]

Aka the other completely dead moba

My guess is the game is that large akin to HK + expansions so that bug testing (and fixing) is taking significantly longer than expected

Because I remember reading they were heading into final testing earlier this year

[sonic berry]

Weren't bugs a feature in HK

[broken smelt]

Lmao

[woven breach]

yea, so they test them a lot more. the bugs must be perfect

[sonic berry]

I thought their engine was all set since HK, so this might mean they're adding lots of moves and new enemy types
I know nothing about Silksong though

[broken smelt]

I think so?
With 150+ new enemies (according to the reveal trailer), I'm sure there's lots of AI, pathing, hitbox, general fight feel testing to be done

[wraith cradle]

HK:S has been memed to be in Development Hell long before Dread was announced tho

And let's be honest it's HOLLOW KNIGHT. Not even Metroid can make the hype that surrounds it to quiet down

[broken smelt]

Ye, the hype surrounding HK:S is insanely high

I'm 99% certain there will be people that hype it up for themselves so much and be dissapointed by the game because of it

[sonic berry]

FeelsCyberpunkMan 😔

[wraith cradle]

To be honest the reverse for me

So long and I have found lots of games i like more than HK

[lusty pendant]

I just want rhythm heaven man

[wraith cradle]

So I have lost the hype although I'm still interested in playing it

[broken smelt]

Tbh, I don't even remember the reveal trailer contents anymore but that's probably for the best since I wanna go knowing absolutely nothing

[wraith cradle]

Like now I found Blasphemous and Ender Lilies overall much more enjoyable for me

To give two examples

Or Vigil the Longest Night

[broken smelt]

I wanna check out Ender Lillies at some point, looks quite fun

[wraith cradle]

It is

Oh and Death's Gambit

[broken smelt]

For base HK, there's definitely been games that imo have improved on what it does

[wraith cradle]

Salt and Sacrifice otoh I enjoyed HK more

Well HK build also from other games

[broken smelt]

Ye ofc, the industry as a whole be like that

Always taking from what came before it and improving (hopefully) upon it

Having played through HK again revently, I still love it but there's definitely some gripes I have with it

The main one being wayward compass costing a notch slot.
I get it from a gameplay perspective, but from a qol perspective

[dire saffron]

just like

learn the map

so you dont have to use it :3

thats what i did lol

[broken smelt]

The thing is, I get lost suuuuper easy lmao

[dire saffron]

its meant to be a crutch for newer players, personally i think its a perfectly sound design choice

since if youre more of a casual player having a set for exploration and a set for bosses is nice

i always just run the same stuff thats combat specific

like shaman stone, mark of pride, quick nail, spell twister, and i think thats all notches lol

since once youre good enough and dont need qol stuff or the more niche charms you can just run around and kill things

and in speedrunning you like only use 1 or 2 charms

[broken smelt]

That depends on the run

[dire saffron]

shaman stone on a any% and shaman stone and dream wielder on true ending

anything different sometimes you dont use any

low% you dont pick up a single charm

you also dont get dash

i think

[broken smelt]

Ye no dash in low%

Because it gives you a %

[dire saffron]

yea

also you gotta grind out essence lol

[broken smelt]

Similarly as to why they go out of their way to avoid fighting gruz mother in low%

[dire saffron]

the people that do low% have wayy to much time to spare

[lusty pendant]

yeah, agree. Same for map updating being a buyable. It's cool from a storytelling perspective but not from a pleasantness perspective. Also imo the crutch argument doesn't really apply here since the main challenge is the enemies, not the map

One QoL idea I have for HK is for those essence trees to become warp points after you complete them, like how Ori 2 implemented the wells,minus the healing every time you use it

[broken smelt]

I'd love that

Gives more reason to actively seek them out and complete them outside of an amount of essense and lore

[wraith cradle]

Talking about dark souls

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/835964305299079192/890446613129068575/Screenshot_20210923_055639.jpg

[hallow wadi]

to me the buyable map is cute enough to make up for the inconvenience but i definitely felt the wayward compass notch

[lusty pendant]

🍰

still yet to play it after clearing the 1st boss and getting totally lost in the next area

[hallow wadi]

i have tried to get through it a couple times but haven't been able to

i dont remember the boss names or orders so idk where i got stuck uhhh

[lusty pendant]

is, like, which faction you swear allegiance to important

because I just said yes to the first person who asked and have no clue what it does

[hallow wadi]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dire condor]

@wraith cradle dude, did you realize the cutscenes are all redstrings? like, mindblown. haha

[wraith cradle]

Yeah

Like if we are an observer

[dire condor]

I'm playing the ending of Kasane's route and my mind has like a bomb in it

[woven breach]

I've mustered up the courage to finish Webbed

the finale is gold

[ocean iris]

Completed Chapter 1 in RDR2 yesterday

The shooting is pretty good, better than GTA V's paintball mechanics

Guess the game really opens up in the second Chapter

[dire condor]

I like the division 2 for all my shooting

[elder arrow]

mfw I'm dying in battlefront campaign

[dire warren]

ngl i don't want silksong yet
haven't gotten all the hk achievements, thanks pure vessel

[dire condor]

Okami best game

god hand is clover studios best game

I have never played that

[dire condor]

It's an old ps2 game

[woven breach]

I tried god hand when I was... idk 7?

The hand chopping scene haunted me

Haven't touched it since

[lusty pendant]

tfw I haven't even cleared P4

[tulip skiff]

not particularly

covenants give you various bonuses but many of them are PVP-oriented

[dire warren]

is this about dark souls? yeah
i actually made a list of all covenant effects some time ago.

the only important things you can only use while being in a particular covenant is the sunlight spear and the darkmoon blade, both miracles.
apart from that it really doesn't matter

[lusty pendant]

Ah

[near aurora]

nintendo direct is in 4 hours boys

[untold hornet]

Yay!

I heard some of it got leaked on Twitter already :/

[near aurora]

it’s more like

Nintendo themselves put a timeline on their JP website

i’ll spoiler tag the leaks ofc

[untold hornet]

Oh?

A timeline of what?

[near aurora]

like game releases

[untold hornet]

Ohhh

[near aurora]

|| new kirby game called kirby discovery of the stars and bayo 3 for 2022||

[untold hornet]

Were they all like indie games because I'm guessing they wouldn't y'know leak the big ones

[near aurora]

uhh

no

[untold hornet]

😶

yeah maybe its best if i don't click that spoiler tag

wait was the entire thing leaked if so i will be severely disappointed

[near aurora]

nah

i can’t read

Japanese

[untold hornet]

Ah ok

Ohh

||yay a new kirby game!||

[near aurora]

Yea

[untold hornet]

i like those games

[dire condor]

Kirby best Nintendo character

[coral hawk]

Dang I shouldn't have clicked the spoiler tag without reading the previous conversation

but I wanna know what secrets the black box hides from me

[polar dragon]

Silksong release date poggie

Zagreus is the new Smash character what on earth

[rustic falcon]

dang, i wont be able to watch it because im going to be watching something else with a friend. im counting on everyone here to talk about everything that is happening so i can catch up :P

then again i dont have anything nintendo so maybe it wont really interest me. i just like watching gaming events lol

[twin yarrow]

their consoles were able to give solid 60 back in 1980s

and yes, at this point idk what to expect.. maybe some news from the parallel universe about "we fixed joycon drift"

something that will make me actually buy switch over new laptop when im rich enough for that

[ocean iris]

Bruh RDR2 is comfy as hell

This and BOTW really did nail the cooking aspect even though I didnt like the latter as much

[dire warren]

i'd watch the direct but like
i already know there's a very low chance i'd be interested in something and tbh i'd much rather just have a clear list of everything but that's not gonna happen

[sleek quiver]

Yeah, idk what to expect as well, since, well, not really expecting anything right now

[dire warren]

everyone i know is watching in the morning and all the sites that report it say only what they care about and i'm lazy and it's a mess

[ocean iris]

this is one of the reasons I regret owning a switch

[sleek quiver]

The new big releases recently is, idk, Diablo 2 Resurrected, Eastward maybe

[ocean iris]

just how hard for is for nintendo to make new big games like they used to 😔

[woven relic]

the big games are coming, just much later

[polar dragon]

HL3 will come out along with the Steam Deck

[sleek quiver]

Maybe some new Metroid Dread stuffs, that probably the biggest stuff right now for Nintendo

[polar dragon]

you heard it here first

[dire condor]

It's going to be midnight for me when the Direct airs, but I'm watching it live regardless.
Will probably also watch a couple of discussions afterwards.

[ocean iris]

I swear I think I heard this 2 years ago as well

[sleek quiver]

Enhanced touch control and gyro aiming gameplay? Lmao

[woven relic]

lol

[ocean iris]

Metroid Dread is cool and all but still doesnt feel as big to me as Prime 4

[dire warren]

like the only games i've gotten all year are rise, stories 2 and miitopia

and unless something new comes up the only things holding my attention are danganronpa decadence and shin megami tensei v

so it's gonna take something big

[sleek quiver]

I never was a fan of Metroid or platformers to begin with

[dire condor]

How do you categorize "big games"? Mario Odyssey, SSBU, BotW, Bayonetta, Metroid Dread, Xenoblade,...

[sleek quiver]

This

That’s about it

[ocean iris]

Dunno, Dread genuinely feels like a spin off to me

[sleek quiver]

Those are the big ones

[ocean iris]

Maybe Im too much of a zoomie used to Prime trilogy

[near aurora]

how

[dire warren]

i categorise big games as 'the ones nintendo doesn't shut up about'

[woven relic]

yea, Dread being 2D doesn't feel as big as Prime 4

[ocean iris]

Well hopefully it's as good as Fusion but doesnt feels the same like it

[dire condor]

Just because a game is 2D, doesn't mean it's any less than a 3D one. Metroid started its life with 2D games.

[ocean iris]

I rather have an invincible threat ngl

[sleek quiver]

The trailer implies Dread has one of those invincible enemies to run away from

That’s the Dread, I think

[ocean iris]

Nah those can be defeated

apparently

[sleek quiver]

Well, I hope it takes efforts to do that, rather than just needed a new weapon/upgrade to kill it lol

[near aurora]

SAX wasn’t invincible either

Heck we even fight it in a boss fight

[twin yarrow]

tfw Metroid ran away from 2d so far that direct sequel for the original series feels like spin-off

[ocean iris]

I mean I think this because for me 60 dollars must mean some real real important stuff in that game

Hopefully it has enough content

I always like getting my money's worth

[dire warren]

my god i still haven't finished any games

i'm at a lot of comfy stopping points but :/

[sleek quiver]

Depends what you’re going for in a $60 game. If it’s just gameplay time spent, well, they could still pad that with useless stuffs lol

[dire condor]

Maybe it'd be fair for me to mention that I strongly prefer 2D gameplay over 3D gameplay. Just so everyone knows where I'm coming from when defending games like Metroid Dread.

[ocean iris]

Well I paid 40 dollars for RDR2 but damn it if I wasnt going to pay 60, it genuinely feels like it's worth that much

[sleek quiver]

When talking about games and their prices, it’s hard to really quantify if a game is worth it’s price anymore these days. Gameplay time can be screwy, art is subjective, and pure enjoyment is different for different people

[woven relic]

yup

RDR 2 is worth negative money for me, for instance, haha

[ocean iris]

Mfw I unironically spent 60 dollars on Animal Crossing

Also Im really skeptical about fully priced games because of Borderlands 3

I got the super deluxe edition for 38 euros, sale from 100 but I still feel like I was ripped off

[dire condor]

Speaking of 2D games. Anyone tried Diablo 2 Resurrected?
My brother can't get into the game, server issues.

[ocean iris]

I suposse it's probably like the original one but no way Im giving money to AB, I never did and never will

[woven relic]

Blizzard and launch server issues...

[sleek quiver]

Borderlands always feels to grindy to me, enemies feels too spongy and quests are kinda repetitive as well. Not to mention enemy respawning. I get that it is a looter shooter and that’s how looter shooters goes, but I’m probably just need to play a proper shooter instead of Borderlands

[ocean iris]

I grew up with it I got a lot of bias about the series but damn it if it aint dead

[sleek quiver]

Typical Blizzard launches, wait for a patch or maybe wait just a few more days until launch hype is down

[dire condor]

Yeah, I told him to be patient. Same thing happened with D3 when that launched.

[sleek quiver]

I like the gunplay, it’s good, but most of everything else, isn’t very fun for me unfortunately. Like I’ve said, probably should be playing a more traditional shooter instead

[dire condor]

The only FPS games I ever liked were Half Life and BioShock. It's a genre that rarely works for me.

[ocean iris]

This reminds me how stuck some people get in the Half Life series kek

[sleek quiver]

The more recent shooters I’ve played were Apex and PUBG. BR are a doozy these days, but when I was still very invested in them, I did have my own fair share of fun playing them

[dire condor]

this reminds me i never even finished half life, it was so painful to play lol

[sleek quiver]

Good fun, but of course, hype dies down over time

[woven relic]

I've played HL2 and sequels, but not the original

[sleek quiver]

Black Mesa is a remake of the original one, go try that

[dire condor]

I didn't like HF2 half as much as the original. Half Life was something truly special.

[sleek quiver]

Got Valve’s blessing, if I heard correctly

[ocean iris]

The original one's problem is the bullet spongy enemies

(never use the MP5 against HECU

But I played a ton of it, Opossing Force and Sven Coop

[twin yarrow]

i've played all of them and many mods for original.. still have some mods for hl2 and portal in backlog, and i clearly understand why people love them

[ocean iris]

I know the whole game layout, if that's something Im supossed to be proud of

[woven relic]

yea, probably gonna play Black Mesa at some point; it's just that FPS games are lowest on my list of preferred genres

[twin yarrow]

somehow even with limited possibilities of hardware of that time they've managed to make a pretty immersive world

[ocean iris]

speaking of Valve they did a big update to CSGO

No more Dust2 T mid camping

I dont know if that's good but I'll let you see for yourself

[dire condor]

Yes, it was very impressive for that time. Especially the way it told its story through pure gameplay wasn't seen before.

[ocean iris]

https://newswep.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/CSGO-Update-brings-Operation-Riptide-and-changes-to-Dust-2.png&w=3840&q=75.png

😢

God damn it Valve you either do great things or horrible things

[twin yarrow]

well, guess people who play same map over and over for years now have to actually think how to win

(no offence lol players)

[ocean iris]

yeah true

hahah

Also yeah Im tired of Mirage and Dust2

Btw they just added a new hostage map called Insertion 2 which is brilliant

also the riot shield from danger zone which is truly annoying but cool

https://streamable.com/dfzi1o

(ignore the russian kid)

[twin yarrow]

yeah, R6 siege is something

[ocean iris]

Nahhh shields were a thing back in CS1.6

although you had a pistol with it

The shield's really gonna change the meta

(just like the revolver, then get nerfed to be useless af)

[echo blade]

E3 was all "games releasing in 2021" then botw 2 was shown

[ocean iris]

righttttt I dont have hopes for that one

[near aurora]

hades

anyways zag as a fighter I do not see

[wraith cradle]

R6 Siege Shields are indestructible tho

And they have Gimmicks attached to them

[dire condor]

Yeah... his chances are very, very low.

[quartz hatch]

i'm still somewhat expecting Sora

[near aurora]

My man

[dire condor]

If Kingdom Hearts wasn't so intertwined with Disney, Sora probably would have gotten into the game a long time ago.

[quartz hatch]

yeah, i feel like the involvement with Disney is what might be a dealbreaker in Sora coming to Smash

[wraith cradle]

Sora is a Disney Character

[twin yarrow]

everyone will be a disney character, just give it some time

[stable kindle]

wonder what will make my tl explode first

turns out its kirby

[lusty pendant]

me: so the Nintendo Direct just... Announces more directs?

chat mate: it's the Nintendo Indirect

[stable kindle]

prob bc they know its stuff people are gonna ask about so theyre like "yes we know you want this but this will be later"

mario movie cast broke my tl

[polar dragon]

video game movies

monkaS

[stable kindle]

BAYO IS BACK

[fallen sky]

no want chr*s "mario" pr-tt

[polar dragon]

new design 😳

[fallen sky]

sorry forgot to censor his name 😔 😔 😔 😔

[polar dragon]

xD

[stable kindle]

that whole voice cast is like a prime example of why voice acting becoming "hire the most well known actors to make this as prestigious as possible" is awful for animated films and why we need to bring back using talented voice actors

im TIRED of this!

i cant believe mr mario signed off on this, please

[lofty pecan]

project triangle date announced

next year march

[fallen sky]

apparently jack black is in it and i'm not complaining there but damn I wish modern day voice acting wasn't cast like this

[wraith cradle]

Seth Rogan is neither CGI nor makeup

It's Seth Rogan doing monkey noises and no character questions it

[fallen sky]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/608472003032252427/890730940484177930/image0.jpg

[wraith cradle]

Like Seriously

Martinet has been doing an excellent job for literal decades

There is few VA I trust more with their iconic character as I do with Martinet and the Mario Cast

[lusty pendant]

project triangle might get on my "look out for sale" list

[wraith cradle]

OP was solid

So I hope it is too

But I really hope Project Triangle is a Placeholder name

[near aurora]

I mean it is called a project rn so yeah

Also bayo 3, splatoon 3, kirby game too?

[lusty pendant]

yeah but no BOTW 2 like the leak said

or was Hyrule Warriors supposed to be that

[stable kindle]

its just called triangle strategy now, they dropped the "project" part

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/triangle-strategy-switch/

[lusty pendant]

man I wish they'd de-normalize the $60 price

[scenic wigeon]

well, games do be expensive

to make

it'd be nice if all games were like, $40 USD

[wraith cradle]

So, A friend is playing Sable and he's telling me the game is very good

[scenic wigeon]

but I can't see that happening anytime soon

[wraith cradle]

So I'll definitively buy it in the future

[lusty pendant]

but have they become 1.5 times more expensive than previous years

[scenic wigeon]

hello and welcome back to the Fashionably Late Show with Go Kart Man
on tonight's episode: the Nintendo Direct
||the casting for the Mario movie is not great
N64 Online is no good
3D Kirby is great
I give the presentation a 7.5/10||

[scenic wigeon]

I don't know

[near aurora]

God the NSO

pisses me off so much

no fixing any of NSO’s current problem

Just “more money for n64 and sega genesis”

[scenic wigeon]

but considering that they have to hire people to write the games, code the games, then they have to do all this motion capture technology, which will take a long time
they also have to make it look realistic because every single video game ever made has to look like the outside world or it is immediately terrible

it's an expensive endeavor

[near aurora]

also the hollow knight discord went insane after the direct was over

[stable kindle]

i simply think that games who charge full price AND include microtransaction systems in their games (for anything ranging from loot to boosted exp and any other such things) should not be full price. yeah making games is expensive and most reasonable people do not argue otherwise. but to charge a premium price for your product and then have the nerve to add in additional monetary features "just in case" people them is in fact scummy, full stop. no one adds monetary features just as a side extra, they are there with the expectation that people out there WILL pay for them. doesn't matter that you don't have to buy them if you don't want to, and often times games are built around the monetary features. gestures back at shadow of war and how the game had to be entirely rebalanced when they removed microtransactions because, surprise! the game was balanced around the existence of monetary features and was far too grindy without them

"tatz how is this relevant" because a lot of high profile games anymore charge full price AND have this junk in them and i'm beyond tired of it. dlc and proper expansions is one thing but this other stuff... nah. screw your pricing model

[scenic wigeon]

oh yeah

[crimson fossil]

haha 66% of things listed "bad"
Ill give it a 7.5/10
maths

[scenic wigeon]

I dislike that roo

[scenic wigeon]

well there are a lot of better things

I just forgot them

[crimson fossil]

fair, it was just silly reading it hahaa

[scenic wigeon]

yeah

[scenic wigeon]

I really have no respect for studios that do things like that

but I was kind of envisioning something like uh...
Spider-Man 2 or God of War: Ragnarok

[lusty pendant]

take: games that charge 60+ should not have paid DLC, no excuses

[wraith cradle]

The Hollow Knight Fandom now is a giant wheel that cycles the Five Stages of Grief Over and Over

[crimson fossil]

there still are games like gow, spiderman, horzion ect that are pretty much standalone. but fighting games will always have dlc, between color palattes and new characters to keep the game relevant for more than 6 months. its not ideal, but thats a fact of gaming life now, and its not going anywhere

[celest bridge]

Sports games have it the worst

[crimson fossil]

sports games indeed the worst

[wraith cradle]

Ultimate basically killed the Sports genre

The based in Real Games I mean

[crimson fossil]

but its like, also, how many hours you gonna put into a single player? like realistically. games like destiny have players wtth literal thousands of hours. i cant imagine putting more than 150 into the very best single player games, ever. UNLESS some other dlc comes out to bring me back to it.

one exception being hades lol, im at like 400 on that, and come back to it every few weeks without fail

[celest bridge]

I mean I have around 170 in dead cells and terraria

But those are exceptions

[crimson fossil]

yeah, i suppose the exceptions would mostly be run based games/ but a linear story, or even open world game, its like, once you burn through the content, there isnt TOO much to draw you back if youve platinumed it and gotten and done every single thing

like i remember when the first infamous came out. i played that game to death. got every trophy. cleared 100% of everything. and after i hit that 100%, sure i may fire it up for 30 min here and there to enjoy a fun mechanics game, but after that 100% completion, im more or less done with it

[lusty pendant]

There's nothing wrong with that though

[crimson fossil]

that being said im not excusing loot boxes and xp buffs or pay to win mechanics.

but paid dlc isnt inherently bad. day 1 dlc, BAD. but down the road, to keep the game alive? not bad.

[near aurora]

i’m fine with day 1 dlc as long as it’s free

like kirby star allies on launch kinda sucked

they did actually fix it later on with free updates

also ngl

[lusty pendant]

paid DLC is ok on like, $20-40 games if it's a good, healthy chunk of content, paid DLC on a USD $60 game is

[near aurora]

mobile games are easily at fault for microtransactions

[scenic wigeon]

yee

[near aurora]

when companies realized they could squeeze more money from consumers that way it was over

also off topic but disney + is thinking about adding ads

[crimson fossil]

so, youd rather be done with a game forever after you put your 45hrs into it as opposed to getting another 20hrs out of it 6months later for 15 bucks?

[crimson fossil]

ill cancel the day they implement that. its already meh thb.

aside from like 3 things all its content is elsewhere

[near aurora]

the ceo was like

“Dang. Hulu still got ads? We should get a slice of that”

[lusty pendant]

yeah.

[scenic wigeon]

in the paid plan?

or a seperate plan?

[lusty pendant]

especially if the 20 bucks was content that was free in a previous iteration of the game

[crimson fossil]

lmao. that may be the silliest thing ive ever heard. but hey to each their own.

[celest bridge]

Probably paid knowing how scummy they can be

[scenic wigeon]

like?

[near aurora]

And so all this is malleable," he concluded. "Again, it’s soft clay right now. And we are very pleased with what we are seeing with addressable advertising on Hulu."

The CEO reiterated being "really happy" with the service's current model, but noted, "that doesn’t say that in the future, we might not look at different opportunities for an increased level of addressable advertising across our platforms."

So whatever it’s like on Hulu they’d probably do

[crimson fossil]

im not talking rereleases im talking new games ie gow. if gow added a 20 dollar expansion to get me a reason to play it more, that is only good.

[lusty pendant]

What's the point of asking a question if all you're gonna do is disparage the response that's not what you're expecting

[scenic wigeon]

they pretty much asked a rhetorical question

[crimson fossil]

it was basically rhetorical

[lusty pendant]

The only "good" "DLC" I've experienced is WC3 TFT, a full game that added to the base story with new mechanics and the same amount of playtime

[celest bridge]

Fallout new Vegas has good DLC

[scenic wigeon]

what about stuff like Spider-Man

does Batman: Arkham Knight count? City? Origins?

[crimson fossil]

or frozen wilds in horizon. how is that anything other than a great thing to get you playing a previously great game you may have finished a year ago? (also rhetorical)

[lusty pendant]

So a question that is snark, dressed up as an open discussion. Alright.

[scenic wigeon]

especially since, with Spider-Man Remastered and the GotY Editions of Spider-Man, it's free

[crimson fossil]

yikes, eh sah sensitive. also, thats literally the definition of a rhetorical question lmao. its a thing.

[celest bridge]

I think dlc that’s just skins or whatnot feels like it belongs in f2p games

[scenic wigeon]

well, if you interpreted it like that, you have no one to blame but yourself? I think?

[lusty pendant]

if you're still harping about this, I blocked both of you so save your breath.

[scenic wigeon]

yeah I should go now

[near aurora]

wha ok

anyways bayonetta 3 looks goood

[scenic wigeon]

did I get blocked or...?

I'm not meaning to be snarky or anything

genuine question

[lusty pendant]

Oh and if a 60 USD game has only 45 hours of playtime, it's already a scam

[crimson fossil]

who even wants a conversation with someone who pouts when you raise a point about their flawed logic

[scenic wigeon]

okay yeah I'm gonna go before things get out of hand and I piss more people off

have a great day gamers and remember to look both ways before crossing the street

[crimson fossil]

how dare you tell me what to do, BLOCKED

lol jk

[scenic wigeon]

yeah I know

you especially gotta look both ways before crossing that street

[rancid token]

I'm going to go with not minding DLC if it's stuff that wouldn't have been made otherwise

[crimson fossil]

but back on track of dlc. I found 6 or 7 dollar dlc that added vergil to one of my favoite games dmc5 and basically got me to reinvest 100% of my initial play time to be an amazing thing man. idk how someone could hate on it, but again, to each their own

[tribal lotus]

games should try to be complete experiences on release. what gets bad is if the dlc is planned to be the conclusion of parts of the game because they couldn’t finish the game in the original production cycle

[rancid token]

You can say FFXV, it's okay

[crimson fossil]

@tribal lotus that i understand fully. they sell a fractured product and then sell you part of what shouldve been in it in the firstplace. but im more talking about games that give you a full package. they rock. then 6 months to a year later, they sell you additional content to get you more play time out of it, ie frozen wilds

[stable kindle]

i dont inherently think paid dlc is a bad thing but at the same time i come from a time where paid dlc in games were often pretty hefty expansions that added on a lot of content to th ebase game. like. yknow. brood war for starcraft lol. stuff like that i have no problem paying for. its the things that are a bare minimum job and barely add anything to the experience that, yeah, im not paying for that

[near aurora]

Oh yeah

Bayo 3 has vergil I think

[rancid token]

It's funny because like

Paid DLC should either have no mechanical effect, or add big acrual content

The extremes of the scale are fine, but the middle sucks lol

[crimson fossil]

the paid dlc that infuriates me is like blazblue and guilty gear charging 11 dollars for 3 additionall color pallates. that kind of stuff should be unlockable ingame

[lusty pendant]

yeah that's why I said my model for good DLC was WC3 TFT which was practically another game

[crimson fossil]

its exra annoying to be because you cant really say its pay to win or anyhting, "its just cosmetics" which is a valid statemnt., but it bothers me deeply haha

[stable kindle]

remember when we used to b able to unlock things like cheat codes and alt colour palettes just from playing games and didnt have to pay for that sort of stuff 🥲

[lusty pendant]

also I don't think RoC costed the equiv of 60 USD even adjusting for inflation

man those WC3 cheat codes. And people nowadays complain about easy modes.

[stable kindle]

the "just cosmetic" argument bothers me bc like. if its "just cosmetics" then why does every company choose to lock cosmetics behind paywalls anymore? because they know that people want to look different, good for you if cosmetics arent important to you personally but they are to a lot of people and companies are well aware of that

[lusty pendant]

yeah it was discussed in Fortnite convos wrt kids feeling left out if they only had the default skin

[stable kindle]

theres literally been reports of kids being bullied in school by their peers bc they didnt have valuable cosmetics lol

[crimson fossil]

I remember the days of wanting to smash my ps1 and burn my house down trying to unlock cyber akuma in some mvc type game. had to beat the game on ultra hard, and the computer could read inputs and just neo from the matrix you. as an 11 year old, that did not sit well with me lmao

yeah the cosmetics thing is the main thing ruining destiny 2 right now.

[wraith cradle]

Bullies gonna be bullies they'll find literally ANYTHING to bully you over

[lusty pendant]

I think it was battleon premium in my elementary school days, though it was more
"wow cool skin"
"yeah it's premium only"
"oh boo"
F2P was the norm

[stable kindle]

youre not wrong but theres zero reason to add fuel to the fire. cosmetics are inherently seen as a status symbol and this is true of many games

[lusty pendant]

actually thinking about it, that's why they market cosmetics now. They don't want people to feel like F2P is the norm

[crimson fossil]

used to be able to earn it all, literally ALL of it in game, then they added the real money store being the only way to get 50% of the cool stuff. then 80%. now its basically 100%, and the only cool stuff that comes with the season changes are in that store, and the stuff that comes with the season outside that store is literal trash

[wraith cradle]

Remember when Horse Armor was a meme?

How innocent we were back then

How. Innocent.

[stable kindle]

like... i did my 4-5 years of primal carnage or whatever, and cosmetics in that game literally were a status symbol. the rarest skins were hundreds of dollars on the marketplace and owning one had people flooding you with requests to trade and stuff. games that build up economies around cosmetics usually tend to gravitate towards rarer/higher quality cosmetics being a sort of icon in that game's community

[crimson fossil]

to be fair, kids bully kids regardless. if it wasnt about cosmetics, it would be about their dorky shoes, or too short handmedown pants, or getting free lunches at school, bad haircuts, smelling bad ect. bullying isnt going anywhere. at least about cosmetics in a game isnt even a tangable thing.

[wraith cradle]

That was 2006 which in Internet years it's The Napoleonic Wars

[stable kindle]

to be fair, kids bully kids regardless

youre not wrong but theres zero reason to add fuel to the fire. cosmetics are inherently seen as a status symbol and this is true of many games

lets not excuse this as "well kids bully other kids anyway" because that gives off major "oh boys will be boys!" vibes to excuse awful things that shouldnt be a thing but continue to be a thing bc people just pass it off as a norm

[crimson fossil]

i mean, i dont disagree. but agian IF bullying was an inevitablilty, id rather get picked on for my character not looking cool, but having the possibility of being better than them at the game. vs for being poor or short or something you have NO control over and is real life situations. its not good, and shouldnt be excused. but if its gonna happen, id rather it be over some digital bs that means nothing

[wraith cradle]

I am not passing it off as the norm, I'm just saying that Cosmetics have 0 to do with bullying, bullying is rooted much more than just some dumb skins, it's about kids perceiving power and using it to abuse their classmates

[crimson fossil]

and saying, we just need to stop bullying, is not gonna happen. its like saying abstinence is the best form of birthcontrol. like, sure, in a perfect world that is true. but we are never gonna be there. unfortunately

[wraith cradle]

My point is that without MTX you would stop exactly 0 cases of bullying.

Its main crime is creating addiction

[twin yarrow]

there are literally games for kids, clubpenguinelikes, that have literally nothing to do in them but walking and talking and couple of simple miningames

[crimson fossil]

this is valid

[twin yarrow]

if you don't want to pay for cosmetics, which are thousands of

and guess what, ppl without any payed clothing are getting bullied, and not everytime mods seem to care

[celest bridge]

Just personally pay the developer to give you your own personal cosmetic

[scenic wigeon]

or just become a famous streamer that speedruns a specific indie game until inevitably you get your own skin in the game

it's happened before

[near aurora]

roblox be like

[celest bridge]

Just become a famous streamer that makes your own indie game with all your desired skins

It’s happened before

[twin yarrow]

it gets even better, bc sometimes mods do have unique skins that only devs can have

and it creates lot of envy and attempts of kids to become mods just to get those

man

[near aurora]

i mean that’s not the fault of the devs

That’s the fault of people wanting to assert their higher status over others

So they stoop to “you didn’t pay for lines of code that simulate clothes in a video gaem”

[twin yarrow]

they pretty much know that, and they don't seem to care

the "pay to pay" system is a thing now, not a joke

[scenic wigeon]

what

where

[twin yarrow]

well, if a singleplayer game is not story-based, it can last for long. like, sandboxes or something

minecraft and terraria are not the only exceptions

and for that games DLCs usually ads lots of content to play with, sometimes enough to start a new save/world, but they can be interesting even without those

[wraith cradle]

Some games have an hour cap and that's okay

I enjoyed games that lasted me 12 hours

[twin yarrow]

which is fine, it's just.. question is, would you pay equally for 6-8 hours and 300 hours of gameplay

even if second is pretty repetative, but interesting nonetheless

[woven relic]

it's not just about the amount of hours

[scenic wigeon]

yeah

[woven relic]

Portal 1 and 2 were short, but count as one of my favorite gaming experiences

[scenic wigeon]

I'm on the side of "I'd rather have a short but fun game rather than a game that's worth it's price in length, but it's just boring"

[twin yarrow]

yep, that's when we should mention added length just to make people play longer

[crimson fossil]

i was just giving a vauge example of something like gow, which you can more or less 100% is 40-60, and basically get everyhing you want out of it. not that thats the gold standard number. but its like, you get however much time out of the base game. move to the next one becasue youve done everything you wanted to do, and then at some point down the road, a new dlc drops that lets you go back to it and play that game you loved with new content. thats only a good thing

[twin yarrow]

grind walls and stuff

[scenic wigeon]

unless you're poor

and can't afford it

[crimson fossil]

but no

you dont NEED that

if you have the base game, you got the full experience. ]

[scenic wigeon]

well then you just really want to play it

like, REALLY REALLY want to play it

[crimson fossil]

if down the road, you have the money, hey we got some extra for you\

[scenic wigeon]

you'll do anything to even scratch that itch

I would know

[crimson fossil]

if not, you had your meal, just skip the surprise dessert lol

[scenic wigeon]

I go through that phase everytime a good PS exclusive comes out

it sucks

[twin yarrow]

if the new dlc is just NEW AXE SKIN FOR 10 green presidents, maybe then.. no

[crimson fossil]

haha, thankfully im not poor, so if a favrite game got a dlc that added some actual new content, ill prolly get it.

but yeah if its the purple and black color of the same character skin or something, yeahhh, ill pass

[scenic wigeon]

yeha

there's DLC done right

like, for example, I dunno... Arkham Knight? Maybe?

[twin yarrow]

remember skyrim, okay

[scenic wigeon]

and then there's R3MAKE where you have to pay like, $5 to get a stupid costume of Jill and Carlos with a worse haircut

[crimson fossil]

honestly havent played it, but im thinking like, destiny 2. you got that new exotic gun? heres a 10 dollar skin that makes it silver instead of gold. GG bungie

[scenic wigeon]

never really played Skyrim

[twin yarrow]

there were those horse armors alright, but there were also completely new stories with lots of mechanics with them

[scenic wigeon]

not a big RPG guy

[crimson fossil]

im more jrpg myself

[scenic wigeon]

I'm not an RPG guy at all

well

slightly

I can't explain it

[crimson fossil]

persona 5 and ff7remake were dope af fan of rpg or nah

[twin yarrow]

i think, prices of dlc should be based on prices of base game and amount of content they add

if they add another 20 hours to 30 hour game of the same quality, then it's ok to charge 67% of the base game value for them

[crimson fossil]

i get it, thats how i feel about the wow and auto chess style games. just, not appealing to me, in the least. cant explain it but it repels me haha

[scenic wigeon]

yeah

I think I really don't like those RPGs that have grinding

like, a lot of it

oop dinner's here I gotta go

see ya later

[crimson fossil]

peace ooot

[twin yarrow]

bon appeti

[woven breach]

....did they just announce G rank for MHRise?

[crimson fossil]

DID THEY?? or is that a hopeful non rhetorical question?

[woven breach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DatM4U30b0M

on one hand, great, we're getting content for MHRise

on the other.....

[crimson fossil]

i cant watch now, g rank?

[lofty pecan]

anyone know any *action cel shaded games like code vein, persona 5, ni no kuni, scarlet nexus, sao fatal bullet, genshin, demon slayer, tales series, etc?

[twin yarrow]

botw

i mean.. it's not in the list

[woven relic]

okami

el shaddai

[crimson fossil]

daemon x machina

cellshaded armored core basically. it rocks

[woven breach]

astral chain

[woven breach]

well it teased a new monster

and it killed rathy

[lofty pecan]

wow this game looks pretty interesting

[lofty pecan]

tried once, got a motion sickness from the mech flight movement rip

debating between M.A.S.S. Builder and ZONE OF THE ENDERS THE 2nd RUNNER

[crimson fossil]

haha, thats a shame. such a fun game. armored core master of arena was one of my favorite ps1 games. and this gave me nistolgia haarrddd for that

2nd runner is cool, but plays horribly dated controls wise imo

good for nistolgia, rough for just coming into it honestly

the art style is pretty awesome though

[lofty pecan]

aight thx ill remove it from my wishlist

[crimson fossil]

i mean the game itself is worth playing tbh, its just clunky.

[lofty pecan]

do u have any other mech games with modern graphics to recommend?

[dire saffron]

that looks sick tho tbh

[woven breach]

ikr

also it seems like the PC release will be sunbreak altogether

REJOICE ALL WHO WAITED

FOR THINE SHALT HAVE MORE MONSTER THAN BASE

[crimson fossil]

honestly, i cant really think of any

heck yeah. my steam deck will be waiting for sunbreak

[twin yarrow]

shame that mecha as a genre is not too alive now

[crimson fossil]

facts

[twin yarrow]

aside from battletech and titanfalls

[woven breach]

damn it I miss titanfall

[crimson fossil]

theres those gundam arena fighters too i guess

[woven breach]

I think gundam is its own thing lol

[crimson fossil]

extreem boost versus or some absurd name like that haha

true. i was always an armored core kinda guy myself

[woven breach]

extreme maxiboost vs

it looks great, and I've been meaning to get it

[crimson fossil]

but my favorite ac games were starting on ps1, then ps2 looked better, but i liked the faster paced ps1 games more, then they just got slower and slower and then it died on ps3. sad face

[woven breach]

but I don't have the money and the price is pretty absurd. Also it's supposed to be played online, but I mostly play offline.... so nah

[crimson fossil]

thats why i like daemon. its bascially a cell shaded ps1 style armored core. perfect game for me

i have one of them, that came out 2017-18ish. something with vs in the title. never really played it too much, but i got it in the backlog

i hear its pretty fun on fightstick, which i have a sweet one of those, so i may fire that gundam game up sooner than later

[woven breach]

there's a "gundam VS next plus Z" on PSP

yes that's the name

[crimson fossil]

only gundam game i really spent any time with was battle assult 2. looovvveeedd that one

[woven breach]

I remember vividly of armored core

[crimson fossil]

im a 2d fighter fan. and it featured gundams from all the series to that point. it was amazing

AC was goat for mech stuff for a long while.

[woven breach]

I remember I played it cause my bro's playing it

I died

a lot

[crimson fossil]

haha, my little brother probably has the same exact history with the series lmao

I actually remmeber him crying at several points

[woven breach]

aw lol

I didn't

I just dropped it

[crimson fossil]

right, he was just a little guy, like 8 prolly. playing games at dads. and just getting steam rolled endlessly haha. had to be so unfun

as someone who hates losing, idk why he wouldve played hahaha

[scenic wigeon]

hey can you give me a link to one of those Discords?

[crimson fossil]

The one i used was /spieltimes but it has for somereason expired for join links, but i told a few people in my clan for destiny about spieltimes and they said they followed their twitter, and all 3 of them got one within like 2 weeks

one of them was like 2 days later, from when they followed the twitter

[scenic wigeon]

thanks man!

[crimson fossil]

GL playa! youll have it soon enough.

[scenic wigeon]

hopefully 🤞

[crimson fossil]

getting a ping saying bestbuy is going live in 5 min is hard to beat

[scenic wigeon]

true

[fallen sky]

weird question but are there any games out there like the sims

[scenic wigeon]

okay so this is what Google is telling me
Two Point Hospital
House Flipper
My Time at Portia
Stardew Valley
Planet Zoo
Cities Skylines
and uh... GTA V?

[fallen sky]

my time at portia makes sense

asking this because... there's just so many things about sims 4 that could be better, some of which has been added or improved upon by mods, and at this point i'm wondering if any other companies ahve considered making a competing game

[scenic wigeon]

ah

[stable kindle]

not to the degree of the sims, no

[fallen sky]

dreams will remain dreams

[scenic wigeon]

just take a coding class and make your own video games

it's ez

[fallen sky]

not bad advice though. need to get back onto learning html

I learned my html from modifying tumblr themes

[stable kindle]

mine was neopets back in the day... and then i forgot everything lol. also neopets is doing nfts now goodbye.

[fallen sky]

really shouldn't be laughing at that

but the neopets economy has been jank for some time 🤭

neopets joining nfts is a "disappointed but not surprised" situation

[celest bridge]

That’s exactly what I’m doing 😳

[dire saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/875895377050624012/890820023726256149/unknown.png

i did it :3

i beat snake

[polar dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802615525141643265/890830340183183400/unknown.png

I lost a single HP at the last boss pogger

2nd look i actually lost 2

my day is ruined

[sleek quiver]

Learnt HTML from Friendster and Myspace. Idk if you folks even knew what Friendster is

[fallen sky]

i've definitely heard of it!

[woven breach]

please, I know what friendster is

[fallen sky]

honestly supergiant does attract a crowd that doesn't skew so young

[sleek quiver]

Ah, I was mistaken then

[gentle cloak]

It does feel that way. I'm nearly 20 and I often feel like that's closer to the lower end of the scale

[woven breach]

I actually forgot that I'm actually 20ish

[sleek quiver]

I feel like I’m the only 30-ish guy in here

[fallen sky]

aww! I know for sure that there's a few 30 year olds that are active in here. wanted to get my thirty something friend in the server but he doesn't like massive servers

anyway this is a convo for #off-topic-discussion

[ocean iris]

Yoooo Bayo 3 at direct

My favorite gaming mom is back

[woven breach]

ikr

looks like it's going to a diff direction

[ocean iris]

Now that's something I really wanna get

That's about it kekw

[woven breach]

which I welcome

[ocean iris]

Also they got Genesis and 64 games on online?

Anyone got a list of those games?

[woven breach]

nope

[ocean iris]

Super Mario 64

Mario Kart 64

Star Fox 64

Yoshi's Story

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

WinBack: Covert Operations

Dr. Mario 64

Sin and Punishment

Mario Tennis 64

Interesting. Even though I emulated the crap of almost everything here

[sleek quiver]

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/09/nintendo_64_and_sega_genesis_expansion_pack_announced_for_switch_online_launches_this_october

There’s the full list there

[ocean iris]

lemme guess you gotta pay more to get those?

[sleek quiver]

It got Mario 64

You know, the game that was in a limited run late last year to earlier this year

[ocean iris]

Yeah yeah I mean I played this so many times

My PC, my phone, my Mini SNES...

[sleek quiver]

I’m surprised people aren’t salty about this

[ocean iris]

I wouldnt because I can just emulate it

Also the switch emulation for that thing isnt even that good

also no DS content

So yeah why play the inferior version

[sleek quiver]

I can see Gameboy games being on NSO. Any DS for it? No way

Not until 5 years later from now

[ocean iris]

That's what they get for ditching the dual screens

Although they can just uhjh

I dont know honestly, split the screen?

[sleek quiver]

Well, the concept is easy, since the Switch looks like a Wii U gamepad already lol

But I imagine it will be too much work

[ocean iris]

Hope once the switch's lifetime is up, we go back to the dual screens

back to the true handheld

[sleek quiver]

Tbh, I’ve had my time with a DS, and… it feels like gorilla hand syndrome. You’re juggling between two different control schemes, and while some games were awesome (TWEWY), some games were nightmares (FFXII Revenant Wings)

[ocean iris]

I rather flip those screens than just open normally a single screen

[sleek quiver]

The best games that utilize the dual screens, are ultimately those that utilize it in simpler ways, like Pokémon or Fire Emblem

[ocean iris]

Dual screens are just cool!

[woven breach]

You know what else has dual screen

Wii U

[ocean iris]

Too bad it was underused

(ahem minecraft wii u edition)

[rugged fjord]

https://twitter.com/kianamaiart/status/1441172744654053382

Kiana Mai (@kianamaiart)

i could cry

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DAY 1386: THE MEME IS OVER

[ocean iris]

Mom's back

[woven breach]

dorime

[ocean iris]

A cult I'm gladly to be part in

[dire warren]

i think i got all the info from the direct
ngl i'm suprised that there was actually actual news in it

i need to watch the sunbreak trailer at some point, and ngl i'm looking at bayonetta 3 because i hear it's one hell of a series

[elder arrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/872322870871748609.png?size=64

[lethal drift]

[wraith cradle]

Is the same or different VA?

[woven breach]

can't tell the diff honestly

[near aurora]

I don’t believe so

[rancid token]

That's a different VA but there's theories going around that that isn't Bayonetta proper

Which I'm hoping are true because otherwise her former VA got fired or wasn't asked to come back for some reason (probably union-related)

[ocean iris]

https://i.4cdn.org/v/1632487244460.png

Please be good please be good please be good

[dire condor]

oh my yes please be good

[ocean iris]

Just hoping Joanna wouldnt look like some mid 2000's popular highschool girl that has the latest Blackberry model

(Although I like any ginger person)

[junior crown]

https://youtu.be/NnDCRmLDakw

[wraith cradle]

Anyone here played Kena to give me their opinion?

[polar dragon]

Not a fan of her other designs but this got me.

I love.

[quartz hatch]

BAYONETTA MY BELOVED
https://c.tenor.com/dKRtdaRixVAAAAAM/mob-psycho.gif

[dire condor]

Bayonetta 3 confirmed via nvidia leak. POG

[wraith cradle]

Anyone tried the Yoko Taro game demo already?

[near aurora]

I mean we already knew bayo 3 news was coming

Nintendo themselves leaked that

[broken smelt]

The geforce now leaks happened before the direct Joker

In the same leak a silksong release date was apparantly also there

[jolly flower]

i did not lol

[dire saffron]

yea bayo3 was teased like a couple years ago wasnt it??

[broken smelt]

it was announced but no release window until now

[rancid token]

1386 days without news

[sleek quiver]

I have. Imagine Slay the Spire, with an RPG element to it instead of a roguelite

It even has it’s own blend of Gwent-ish game

The writing is fine, I like it. Game feels “slow” though, for lack of a better word

There’s so many animations and transitions with the cards, it feels like it overstayed it’s welcome

[fallen sky]

so... my copies of night in the woods and long gone days from itch unfortunately won't load on my laptop, so i'm gonna have to buy them elsewhere

[ocean iris]

I still got a feeling that ain't Bayo idk why

But hell I'm welcoming a new installment any time of the day

(Short hair Bayo best Bayo)

[woven breach]

Some people theorize that is smol Cereza from bayo 1

But yes, short hair bayo best bayo

[ocean iris]

Mfw we still haven't gotten a western game with Ennio Morricone soundtrack

It hurts.

At least reuse some from his new films since he sadly can't do it anymore 😢

[ocean iris]

Holy guacamoley, the double barrel in RDR2 actually behaves like a real shotgun, and actually hits at longer ranges. Took a while to figure that out for game devs.

[quartz hatch]

which game is that?

[wraith cradle]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1113570/Voice_of_Cards_The_Isle_Dragon_Roars/

Steam

Voice of Cards: The Isle Dragon Roars

Voice of Cards: The Isle Dragon Roars is an RPG set in a world of swords and sorcery, told entirely through the medium of cards.

Price

$29.99

Release Date

Oct 28, 2021

▶ Play video

[quartz hatch]

oh it's a card game? i'll pass 😦

[wraith cradle]

Finished the Demo, cool but VERY easy given it's a tutorial

The moment in the Direct I heard the music I was like 'Oh, damn it's Taro'

Also more like Card game it feels like a RPG/DND game card themed

[rustic falcon]

It’s kind of weird to see a yoko taro game rated 7 by pegi

[quartz hatch]

is it truly a yoko taro game if it doesn't make you question the entire meaning of your existence

[rancid token]

It definitely looked like "what if we took a top-down RPG and replaced the pixels with cards" and tbh I'm kinda here for that

[wraith cradle]

It's actually promising although the menu is insufferable

As in adjusting your settings is unbearably slow

[sleek quiver]

Yeah, I blame the transitions

[wraith cradle]

Yep and the fact EVERYTHING is in their own tab

Why do you have to do three clicks to go from Adjust music sound to Adjust voice sound?

[polar dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ps6nV4wiCE

poggie

[stable kindle]

beat u to it in #tv-and-movies

[polar dragon]

oh lul

[celest bridge]

I finally beat dead cells

[sleek quiver]

Beaten a run? Or 5BC?

[celest bridge]

5BC

[wraith cradle]

Kinda funny cause when something is relevant two two media channels I never know what put it first

Specially cause ebven if it's a Show, LoL is much more relevant for the people of this channel

[stable kindle]

i put it in tv bc even though it is set in the world of runeterra, its still a show

and discussion pertaining specifically to arcane should go there, not here in video games

also you dont need to be a fan or player of league to watch arcane

[wraith cradle]

Right, then

[polar dragon]

are you a gamer if you don't play league?

[ocean iris]

Wow RDR2 is truly well tied together to RDR1

Like I never played the first game but it feels like they knew they will make a prequel sometime

I wonder how Jack Marston's life after RDR1 was

[hybrid jetty]

just wait until the sudden twist in act 2 where the cards start to question their own existence and change or something

at the end you have to set an actual deck of cards on fire to get the best ending

[wraith cradle]

That card had a FAMILY

[twin yarrow]

and still no tarot puns?

[crimson fossil]

oof, im not even gonna read the past posts. but somebody mustve derailed this vg channel hard to be dead for 4 hrs lmao

[wraith cradle]

Just you wait till the day after tomorrow

[woven breach]

I guess it would be foolish to make bad tarot puns

[wraith cradle]

Two very anticipated games gonna come out that day

[woven breach]

against my better judgement, I tend to make bad puns

[stable kindle]

contrary to popular belief, this server is not continually active at all hours of the day despite the amount of people here. the portion of consistently active users is quite small. no chat in a channel, even in this one, for a few hours is normal

[wraith cradle]

And let's be honest. We all run out of things to talk

It also comes in bursts

We can have hundreds of messages in like a full hour and once every person has said their piece complete Silence

[acoustic jacinth]

i've peeked into the Hollow Knight server, and it's always going: new messages in several channels 24/7. i kind of like how quiet this server is by comparison: makes it easier to join in and participate

[rustic falcon]

from what ive seen it seems to also have more members, but i could be wrong. im not in it

[wraith cradle]

To be fair Silksong is always around the corner

[broken smelt]

yeah, the HK discord also houses the speedrunning community too

it's a very differant atmosphere in that discord

[wraith cradle]

Shame what happened to the Speedrun communities

Hopefully Valve reverses their stance

[acoustic jacinth]

about twice as many online there right now as there are here, so you're right

[broken smelt]

downpatching is hard af now

and a lot of the categories downpatching is optimal for HK speedrunning

[wraith cradle]

https://twitter.com/thexpaw/status/1441126290237509634

Pavel Djundik (@thexpaw)

Last Steam beta introduced an important change to game downloads.

With this change, it is no longer possible to download older game versions, because client asks for a code (GetManifestRequestCode) that rotates every five minutes.

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Yep, it affects TONS of games

[broken smelt]

thanks, I hate it

I'm glad I have HK 1.2.2.1 already downloaded now

[acoustic jacinth]

that's unfortunate. may make games less accessible overall (?)

[wraith cradle]

For a casual gamer it won't be a problem 99% of the time

the 1% would be for example when EU4 completely broke down when Leviathan released

[broken smelt]

still lowers the amount of accessibility which sucks overall even if only 1% use it

[wraith cradle]

But for the Speedrun community Oh Boi

[broken smelt]

yeah, 🤞 steam doesn't implement it in the live client

[pseudo gate]

Anyone else proud of riot???

omg

they started off as an indie company ... and look at them now, they have animated shows now. Riot is such an inspiration

Im so happy for them

[stable kindle]

proud is not necessarily the term i would use bc of Controversies but at the same time that is an entire other discussion about the industry as a whole i will simply say that i like the move to doing other things with their lore because the moba format is frankly garbage for expanding lore

now if only we could get news about ruined king

https://www.riotgames.com/en they have updated their site since they're doing that client update soon

AND they list ruined king and convergence, which im surprised they still remembered was a thing at all since we havent heard from that in ages either https://gyazo.com/3aa112db314988246e9b82bf9deade2d

so maybe something will happen... eventually..................

i just want ruined king to release already so i can have like a miss fortune emote on steam or something 😔 throw me a bone man

[polar dragon]

Riot probably graduated from the indie class a while ago. At least they definitely don't give out the indie vibe to me.
I like a decent amount of their contents and I think League is a good game (we are not talking about the player base here). They have had their fair share of questionable practices but I generally support them, the same way I "support" Ubisoft or CDPR - playing the stuff that I like, no more, no less.

Now if only they can get Ruined King off the ground so we have actual "indie" titles through Riot Forge.

[lusty pendant]

Doesn't Hollow Knight have QoL mods that can patch speedrun friendly feature-bugs back anyway