is that if the olympics opening doesn't embarrass your country it's not doing its job
#video-games
gloomy arrow
mighty forge
What had happened in that Olympics?
lofty pecan
there was the green pool i think
also homeless people/elderly getting displaced but that happens in other olympics as well
woven breach
I'm playing Ender Lilies, it's a great game, but I need to take a break
not because of the difficulty or anything
but because the soundtrack makes me sad
;-;
lethal drift
That's the marks of good music
woven breach
The game is phenomenal
it's just so happen to be emotionally draining
and I am an emotional person
mighty forge
Could you guys recommend any games that has a moving plot?
lofty pecan
Life is strange
hades
Gris, what remains of edith finch, gone home, firewatch, and basically every other walking sim
mighty forge
Life is strange
Oh I have it
wraith cradle
What genre are you after?
polar dragon
Not moving but rather "engrossing," Witcher 3.
mighty forge
What genre are you after?
Action I think
polar dragon
yeah the Witcher 3, I guess, or Transistor?
wraith cradle
Action I think
Hellblade: Senua
ECHO
Nier Replicant
YS VIII
Death Stranding (For a definition of action)
FFXV
Some that spring to mind
sleek quiver
Having just finished an NG playthrough of Witcher 3, I’m gonna recommend that game as well
It’s really good
Especially when all that you’re looking for is a good plot, Witcher 3 should be ok
rancid token
You need to put the pieces together yourself, but The Outer Wilds is very moving
dire saffron
I'm playing Ender Lilies, it's a great game, but I need to take a break
:0 how far are you??
dire warren
racing games have a lot of moving /j
dire saffron
racing games have a lot of moving /j
and the story just 😩
fathom juniper
Could you guys recommend any games that has a moving plot?
superhot
the plot only moves forward when you move
wraith cradle
Oh god, That Franchise is the Apex of pretentiousness
fathom juniper
Oh god, That Post is the Apex of missing the joke
rancid token
There's way more pretentious titles out there than Superhot
Like Braid, or The Witness
fathom juniper
saying that superhot is "the Apex of pretentiousness" in the same convo that mentioned LIS is just...
a hilarious take, ngl
wraith cradle
The original ending of Superhot: Mind Control Delete required you to wait eight real-time hours on a countdown screen before you were allowed to play the game again. Devs said it was because they wanted you to "reflect on the story".
Sounds kinda pretentious ngl
They also wanted you to go on the internet and go tell people how Superhot was the most innovative shooter of the generation
fathom juniper
so wait
when one game witha cool style and really unique gameplay does this kind of thing it's "pretentious"
but when undertale did the same thing few years ago then it was a 10/10 goty give it to the pope game?
please
dire saffron
The original ending of Superhot: Mind Control Delete required you to wait **eigh...
was its story even good :/ i honestly forget what it was outside of simulation stuff
fathom juniper
and besides
in both cases you can wipe your saves and do it all over again
and BESIDES besides...
they already patched it out so new players won't even see it
lofty pecan
was its story even good :/ i honestly forget what it was outside of simulation s...
I dont think anyone cared about the story
Its pretty forgettable
fathom juniper
was its story even good :/ i honestly forget what it was outside of simulation s...
not really?
its story was style over substance, just a bunch of nonsensical excuses for you to play new levels
gameplay comes first there
dire saffron
ahh ok
wraith cradle
But to be honest the most pretentious game I've played was YIIK
fathom juniper
the Apex of pretentiousness, everyone 
dire saffron
oh god yiik
ive only heard stories of how bad yiik is
to a point that when i played va11-halla and got to the yiik reference i just laughed
wraith cradle
They managed to hire Toby Fox to make them a song which he promptly deleted from his resume
fathom juniper
so i guess we have a new apex of pretentiousness on the block
man - those pretentious games sure come in swarms
man - doom 64 is so pretentious 
at the end it turns out that doom guy decided to stay in hell FOREVER
screw that 8 hours - it's nothing compared to FOREVER
dire saffron
that wasnt the point that was being made :/
fathom juniper
wtf is that i just wanna play my shooty bang bang game again
fathom juniper
that wasnt the point that was being made :/
oh i know
doesn't change the fact that the point that was made was simply wrong
welp
this is what i get for expecting anything better from a nintendo fan club 
dire warren
wait
superhot had a story? i thought it was just slow mo shoot red crystal men
fathom juniper
yeah well
wraith cradle
+1 didn't reccomend it cause they looked for action
I also reccomend as moving games OMORI and Lost Ember
mystic wave
those are really good
rancid token
I'd suggest Pyre but I feel like that's a bit obvious in here
Arcade Spirits and VA-11 Hall-A are both very touching if you enjoy visual novels/dating sims
I always hear people talk about that moon one as an emotional train wreck
To The Moon
mystic wave
love To the Moon
polar dragon
I like Tetris, good story, good game play
10/10
rancid token
Seriously though, Outer Wilds can't be higher on my list of recommendations
mystic wave
that tetris plot twist hits like a truck. or a falling block
rancid token
And it's getting DLC soon
junior crown
I have come here to fill in the weekly quota. I played a bit of "Do Not Feed The Monkeys" and I can say it's story driven rogue-like.
Thank you for listening
fathom juniper
I like Tetris, good story, good game play
10/10
nah
too pretentious
rancid token
Next bit
stable kindle
welp
this is what i get for expecting anything better from a nintendo fan club <...
hey can you for real knock this kind of thing off, i shouldn't need to tell you how rude and off putting it is
you can have your opinions without behaving in such a mean spirited manner towards others whose views conflict with yours
twin yarrow
Braid also suggested to wait several hours to get a secret item, though
so.. i guess, playing with time and deliberate waiting are necessary features of pretentiousness
so, shall we consider the Apex of Pretentiousness..
the Longing?
wraith cradle
The thing is that is just a useless wait to allow the player to even play
It's not optional
And to be honest I'm not the first person to call Superhot Pretentious, I dunno why I struck a nerve on some people for calling it that
twin yarrow
idk
its story is not that deep, however, it was out when "we live in simulation" thing was not that common as now
it's just a piece of.. art, i guess
understand it like you want
while, say, Braid has a more classic approach
wraith cradle
Because Jesus Christ I didn't expect so much hostility
woven breach
:0 how far are you??
Sorry, a bit late. Well just recently I took down Ulv.
dire saffron
Sorry, a bit late. Well just recently I took down Ulv.
ooo nice ulv was one of the really fun bosses for me :3 i assume you got ending A then??
since iirc ulv is after hoenir
dire saffron
ahh yea theres a lot of stuff you get to find after you beat the boss right after ulv
so id say go a bit further then just explore since youll have most all things to clear obstacles
dire saffron
No idea really
did you get the quote saying ||"truth is in the abyss, tragedy never ceasing"||
since if you got that then you got ending A
dire saffron
ahh ok
well you should have pretty easy access to ending A then since its the easiest to get to and i got it before i made it to ulv
but it doesnt lock you out or anything
woven breach
I'm not planning to 100% the game, but I'm planning to get true ending.
also yea
when umbral knight said that he'd like to get us far away from that place, I reckon there's a "bad" ending
cause afaik no one in this game gets to live
mystic wave
fun read if anyone's bored https://legendsoflocalization.com/bad-game-translation-hall-of-fame/
tall hornet
I sucsess!!!!
mighty forge
Thx for your recommendations, I may consider playing some of them later.
I rmb the ending of death stranding is moving too
rich stump
Modern controllers are such a joke man.. Im done buying official branded nintendo and sony controllers. I wouldn't gripe so much if they didn't charge over $60 for em.. It's a scam. The ps2 had the same damn analog design as ps4 essentially, yet I get drift all the time.
have an old xbox360 controller. Been working for years and years. No drift
coral hawk
my third party 360 controller "broke" recently in that the A button sticks
but aside from that its fantastic lmao
I need new joycons cause they are BAD
rich stump
Totally agree. I am somewhat handy inclined so Im going to try and take it apart and fix, but the ps4 has a lot of soldering
ps4 controller*
yea man my x360 controller has been around for years at this point
no issues at all. I use my dpad more than the analog stick as I play a lot of fighters, and I still get drift.
I would skip joy cons all together
coral hawk
I've had my 360 controller about 2? years
rich stump
I bought this for my switch and it's been flawless
has nfc function, vibrates
can turn on
coral hawk
oh I have a fantastic controller for my switch
rich stump
wwirelessly
coral hawk
I just play handheld cause medical stuff
coral hawk
not really
rich stump
Im sorry to hear that man, sounds painful
coral hawk
I mean I've had my switch about 3 years I think and my joycons only messed up about a month ago
granted since they started drifting they have just gotten much worse
but luckily if i just tap an input it stops drifting (for now)
rich stump
the theory is dust gets in there and messes with the sensor, which would make sense, but it's entirely a huge process to clean the sensor.
call me old fashioned
but just give us a damn N64 Joy con LOL
coral hawk
I've heard that getting those little joycon ?covers? makes them drift less
rich stump
well that would make sense but thats a preemptive move which seems smart if you have a new controller
coral hawk
thumb grip caps
rich stump
Ohhhh
yea i've seen those
ribbed fer yer pleasure
"they dont make em like they used to" I wish that weren't true.
coral hawk
I've heard they help stop drift but I have no proof of that lol
rich stump
my buddy, he just uses an adapter and plays with an xbox controller on switch LOL
coral hawk
I mean my favorite controller ever was the snes pro for wii
rich stump
dude you could buy a trashed snes controller right now on ebay
and it would be reliable
even the dpad lol
coral hawk
oh yeah
coral hawk
This boy
best controller I've ever had tbh
what the hecky
after clicking that link my entire amazon page is now in spanish lmao
rich stump
high price
rich stump
but
woven breach
kek
rich stump
im just so biased on that type of dpad
only cuz i play a lot of fighters
but i trust it's a good controller
looks easy to clean too
coral hawk
I liked it cause the analog is notched
coral hawk
I never realised how much I liked the notched analog until I didn't have it anymore lol
rich stump
For sure, it's nice
not a fighting game thing these days but for everything else 👌
i have a square gate on my fight stick
woven breach
and then there's me with "totally legit" switch pro controller
coral hawk
I have the "official licensed" ninty pro controller
which means its 20 bucks bad quality
but it has a pikachu on it
rich stump
never again.
coral hawk
haha you said a naughty I saw the robot yell at you
woven breach
there are worse insults I agree
rich stump
well I said it about myself xD
basically I was complaining earlier about official controllers Fluffy.
coral hawk
Might wanna delete that tho since it could be "evading word filter"
woven breach
yea I get it lol
coral hawk
kinda thing
coral hawk
which is why I don't test the water lol
rich stump
God tell me about.. Lol
coral hawk
This is the pikachu controller I was talking about
its so heavy compared to like every controller I've ever had
rich stump
From nintendo at least that design is way less likely to drift
coral hawk
Not from nintendo
rich stump
still.. I kind of feel like the 3rd party market is kicking butt there
the one I have is super good
coral hawk
oh thats just gamestop lmao
rich stump
^ must be a rare controller bs thing
Lol
Those dorks are only afloat cuz of their stock scandal
everyone knows you hate to go there. xD
rich stump
"C..can I trade this brand new game i---" "4 DOLLARS"
coral hawk
people just type anything huh
Literally the last time I was in gamestop was when I traded in all my old stuff and put it towards my switch
coral hawk
oh nah
rich stump
and the mustache man behind the counter
with his cigar
He laughs as he takes your games and consoles
xD
coral hawk
I didn't trade in any games cause e-games
rich stump
"$5"
coral hawk
it was 2 vitas a wii u and my 3ds
rich stump
Duuuude
woven breach
duuuude
coral hawk
oh I loved my vita
rich stump
LOL Im so jealous, 2 vitas.
coral hawk
well 1 broke
coral hawk
and the other was a gift from a friend who gave it to me specifically to trade in towards switch
rich stump
can we talk about hacking on here?
coral hawk
I assume they aren't affialted with any console
rich stump
strictly non supergiant related of course
3ds is a great lil s ystem, and so is the vita
Man you should have kept the one that was working
and the broken one!! They haven't lowered in price at all (obviously )
I've learned never to get rid of consoles now a days
coral hawk
an old friend offered me like 50 for the broken one but didn't tell me they were looking for one
until after I got rid of it lmaoooo
rich stump
your broken vita would get you $150 easy lol
coral hawk
eh well
rich stump
Its an amazing little emulator
rich stump
that's understandable
coral hawk
(plus I have a nice laptop)
rich stump
See I gravitate to those cuz i missed out on a lot of those consoles growing up
coral hawk
oh same
rich stump
And yea you can e m u
coral hawk
we were very poor lol
woven breach
yea...
rich stump
so I got the 3ds for castlevania.. xD
woven breach
I want dem pixelated textures
coral hawk
I had a snes until i was about 17-18
coral hawk
I mean I'm 30 now so I can get whatever I want (within reason)
Man I went and picked up the pikachu controller
and I am amazed at how heavy it is
coral hawk
like yeah it has batteries in it but that shouldn't make it heavier than every thing I own
Nah it doesn't
and I prefer light controllers tbh
rich stump
Hm, every gamer is different
I don't care about the weight so much if its not a fighter
i care about the dpad A LOT
coral hawk
I mean I mostly care about button placement
same
I play a LOT of 2D rouge li(ght)kes
coral hawk
I have 79 hours in skul
rich stump
I feel like Skul is a good successor to Dead Cells
I've been playing Getsu and Record of Lodoss
rich stump
I have it
coral hawk
which has a lot of promise to be good
rich stump
haven't played it yet
coral hawk
but isn't currently great
rich stump
I love love LOVE metroidvanias
coral hawk
Same
rich stump
and of course Hades.
I feel like Hades might be a new Metroidvania 2.0
(I know it doesn't make sense)
coral hawk
disagree
rich stump
I know I know
coral hawk
lol
rich stump
but the genre the way Supergiant did hades
It really is a breath of fresh air in terms of what's possible with rougelikes
Take a game like Hades, and just throw more exploration in there
coral hawk
Mind if I message you about some other games
rich stump
Not at all man.
cosmic vine
Ziggurat 2
woven breach
Pepsiman
plain spire
its kind of like a narrative metroid vania
where every run unlocks new ways to go
theres certainly no other roguelike with this fleshed out of a narrative
let alone this well incorperated into the gameplay loop
every single run is adorned with new stuff both big and small, both in the actual run itself through npcs and boons and encounters and narration points
and back at the house through new options and conversations and nectar
polar dragon
where every run unlocks new ways to go
That suspiciously sounds like Dead Cells power systems. DC is also self-classified as Roguevania also.
wraith cradle
The thing is 90% of roguelites have a non descript protagonist as the protagonist is not the protagonist. But the player
The game is about you getting better and better
Funnily I actually played a game that was 'Dead Cells' but it's an action game instead of a Roguelite. Like a metroidvania but you only go right dunno if I explain myself
'Foregone' was called
That game was very blalantly inspired by dead Cells
dire condor
cells is somewhat a mertiodvania the first few times you play and then its just a rougelike with split paths
dire condor
are zelda games rpgs
polar dragon
are zelda games link games?
rancid token
Tbh, in order, I think yes, no, and yes
Honestly RPG is such a nothing-term nowadays and it's kind of a shame
dire warren
are zelda games videogames?
polar dragon
Didn’t even known it happened
G*mers, truly the most marginalized community on the Internet.
coral hawk
I took apart my xbox controller and it has little metal weights inside the little handle part? but its also wired to the electronic part of it
polar dragon
The weight is used for vibration I bet.
coral hawk
also the reason my A button sticks
is cause the little button press plastic piece is almost torn off the rest of them
sleek quiver
Sounds like wear and tear, could use a replacement fix
Or… it’s a defect and you should mount a lawsuit
coral hawk
well considering its a 3rd party controller and I've had it at least 2 years
I'm assuming wear and tear lol
I just tossed it cause the dpad also stopped working recently
and at that point I might as well just get a new one I just wanted to see if cleaning out the dust and gunk would fix it
hm does this look like a good controller to you guys
I'm confused on why it would need triple A batteries if its a wired controller
also where the batteries would go?
rancid token
I recommend anything from 8Bitdo
woven breach
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-940-000110-Gamepad-F310/dp/B003VAHYQY/ref=sr_1_5...
I've had that
The shoulder button are so hard
If you want to play shooters with it, for whatever reason, don't
coral hawk
I don't play shooters lmao
woven breach
Or games like nier where you will press the ever living hell out of the button
coral hawk
There aren't many games I play that typically need back shoulder
gaunt crane
theres a game im thinking about getting but i dont know the name of it, all i know is that it looks like an indie game, its an arena pvp fps, and you shoot lasers at eachother while moving around really fast
does that ring any bells?
found it
lethal drift
Pato Box is good
winter mica
lethal drift
all you really do is left/right jab and dodge, well so far
lethal drift
I was thinking it was timing based
gaunt crane
gonna play i am bread for the first time like 7 years after it was relevant
the title screen says its still in early access 
gaunt crane
yeah this isnt very fun
spending 15 minutes trying to get into a toaster
with awful controls
dire warren
the worst feeling is when you're fighting a tough boss so you put on your most dramatic music to power you though and you still lose
woven breach
Iceborne's fatty
dire warren
eh, pretty close to mine, i was on monhun
woven breach
for me the worst feeling is, fighting a new boss for the first time and died while their health is just 2 attacks away for them to bite the dust
then proceed to die a bunch of times for unknown reason
dire warren
yeah i feel that
though i genuinely can't remember the last game i played where bosses have health bars
...miitopia
woven breach
Bloodborne
dire warren
yeah pretty close
thick turtle
i've just finished playing deaths door today
it's a pretty good game
i have some problems with it but overall it's good and worth a try
sleek quiver
New D3 season, new grind
Just got my Wizard to her desired build, and now, the grind to max Greater Rift level
Man, I’ve been doing this last season too, and now I’m repeating it for this season lmao
lofty pecan
the reviews for neo the world ends with you seem pretty good, cant wait for it to release on pc
wraith cradle
Yeah. Now it's the quest on avoiding spoilers until it happens
lofty pecan
i never had a ds but i might have to try emulating the world ends with you
dire condor
Regarding the ending of that game
Did you know?...
That James actually killed John before Mira could get to him
twin yarrow
idk if that's an actual spoiler or just pretending
glad i don't care about the game
but still
stable kindle
it's a joke, there aren't characters with those names
wraith cradle
Yeah in Shibuya those names are kinda uncommon lol
mystic wave
unless those are like...online names?!
low nymph
sleek quiver
i never had a ds but i might have to try emulating the world ends with you
Emulating it might be hard, since it’s a DS game that is heavily touch-based
Swipes and all that
I would recommend just getting the mobile port instead
It’s suits the mobile format perfectly
lofty pecan
Is it worth playing nier replicant before finishing endings b-e in automata?
If im already feeling automata is on the slow side
fresh crag
probably
rustic falcon
If im already feeling automata is on the slow side
I dunno about the pace, but replicant requires you to replay the second half of the game multiple times to see all the endings. I believe it’s worth it though
wraith cradle
Yeah That's why you gotta play all sidequests of the first part before the Timeskip
rustic falcon
It can be a little slow if you get dragged into sidequests but not a lot of them are mandatory and just the main story is pretty short - if you do the main story alone you can do it in under 15 hours
woven breach
Speaking of nier replicant
How does it fare on PC?
I've been thinking to get it on PC but automata didn't do very well so I'm hestitant. I can get it for PS4, but currently I don't have any place to hook my PS4 to.
hybrid jetty
I haven't noticed problems with it but I've only played about 4 hours
(also supposedly Automata's patch fixed it immensely)
fallen sky
just played my first new pc game in years 😳
very quick and easy game but fun none the less
lofty pecan
total war troy looks like it might be actually decent now that its shedding its "truth behind the myth" stuff
stable kindle
lol?? well i still cant run it on my pc so
wraith cradle
And meanwhile they said that until September we won't know anything about Cathay :(
fathom juniper
alright folks 👏
i have finally finished children of morta
in co-op
it started out great...
...buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut it really slides in the second half
bleak coral
Ok
polar dragon
i have finally finished children of morta
in co-op
you playing a non fps game?
what did you do to the real person?
fathom juniper
yeah that happens to me a lot, believe it or not
low nymph
lofty pecan
I remember when they protested blizzards stance on china
low nymph
but this involves a lawsuit and it's an industry wide issue in the country so hopefully this time bears a bigger impact
lofty pecan
Hopefully 🤞
gentle cloak
It won't
Give the u.s government a choice between money and not being awful and they choose money
... pretty sure blizzard is American
scenic wigeon
... pretty sure blizzard is American
yeah this is a lawsuit against Activision Blizzard filed by the State of California
or, at least, that's what I've heard
stable kindle
its from the state, yes
everyone needs to keep pressure on actiblizz for being held accountable or nothing will ever happen
being complacent bc oh well money will win is. not good! just bc it tends to happen, we can acknowledge that, yes. but. its not good. dont be complacent.
dire condor
so what can I do for example to put pressure on actiblizz, because I dont know
writing them a letter of complaint?
fathom juniper
stop
buying
their
crap
tell other people to stop buying their crap
they only care about their bottom line - so do your best to go after that
dire condor
I never did in the first place but I dont believe a boycott will work out realistically
fathom juniper
if their sales drop down even just a bit
just a tiny bit - enough for Bobby K. to miss his next fat 20 mil. sales bonus
maybe that will send the message
dire condor
hm okay
fathom juniper
correction
it wasn't a 20 mil $ bonus
bobby kotick got around 111 milion pounds this year
approved by actiblizz shareholders
also - friendly reminder
Bobby Kotick appears in Epstein's "black book"
just...
just if you're looking for a reason to hate him just a little bit more - there it is
fathom juniper
i... remember a time when the worst things to happen for bideo gaems were stuff like...
capcom screwing up it's "capcom five" exclusives lineup
or the hot coffee mod for gta san andreas
or ion storm tripping over it's own marketing for daikatana
or idsoftware releasing a bunch of "good enough" games
or PCs getting a handfull of crappy console ports
i remember a time when "gamers" were considered to be just a bunch of basement dwelling nerds playing with their expensive toys
made for children
ooooohhh just you wait - games are getting bigger and bigger, once we hit the mainstream it's all gonna get better!
well... here we are now
all that stuff seems... petty and quaint when compared to what's going on today
god... i want to go back so bad
dire condor
I think it's wishful thinking to assume companies weren't underpaying women back then either
if anything it used to be worse
fathom juniper
oh i'm not saying that "oh the good old days" were perfect
they weren't
but video games - as an industry - were subjected to a bigger level of scrutiny
where a little bit of blood in mortal kombat was enough to spark an outrage that ended in senate hearings
so if stuff that's going on today were to happen back then
we wouldn't stop hearing about it for years
they probably wouldn't get away with it
dire condor
hm alright
twin yarrow
back then games were in a gray zone of law, somewhere between sports and gambling, and also as something only for kids and/or family, so not everyone could just go ahead and make an entertainment empire
without a network of arcades
now it's just a regular type of business, with all the advantages and disadvantages of any other
games are not made by gamers or geeks anymore, it's made by marketing specialists now
and something tells me, that they will not learn a lesson even after considerable losses
or they will learn to hide the stuff even harder, so nobody will ever know
i think, the only solution here, if the guilt of the responsible people will be proved by court, the whole administration of actiblizz has to be changed
they did enough damage to company already
fathom juniper
@twin yarrow
i couldn't have said it better myself
it's just...
i've had very little hope for this industry in the past (god knows i've been saying it here almost every time i come here)
but now?
i have no hope for it
at all
even if
IF that court case brings some justice onto those fancy suit higher ups at acti-blizz...
they're still gonna get replaced by someone equally as bad
or worse
twin yarrow
they're still gonna get replaced by someone equally as bad
or worse
that's what we've been told about our president for almost 10 years
but still
fathom juniper
where are you from, if i may ask?
twin yarrow
russia
some changes has to be done from time to time
bc each type of power corrupts people
fathom juniper
you know
i've been playing games all my life
and i've been following this industry for almost 20 years now
and... i'm sorry - but i can recall only one once positive change in all this time
the rise of steam and xbla and other stuff like that
that allowed indies to get more popular and allowed small studios and single devs to get more recognition and an easier way to make money
even though it's still from perfect
twin yarrow
well, i completely understand that.. i'm not a big fan of changes, tbh
i meant, the change of administration is a necessary thing.. from time to time
bc at some point they stop caring about company/country and start caring about themselves
unfortunately, people are not perfect
fathom juniper
oh don't get me wrong - i think this industry is in a dire need of some major changes
in terms of employment, salaries, work hours and general ethics, managment and so on
but after all this time...
after seeing all this crap going down in recent years...
i cannot for the life of me believe that any of the upcoming changes would be positive
i just lost all hope at this point
twin yarrow
there will be some major changes in the future
fathom juniper
god almighty, have mercy on us
twin yarrow
technological limit is imminent, someday it will not be possible to make new graphic cards and processors and stuff
without some major scientific leaps
and the gaming price now gets higher and higher
not only in terms of hardware and consoles, but games themselves
something tells me, that the market will eventually split
fathom juniper
god i hope so
twin yarrow
and the distinction between AAA-high budget-constant support-online gaming-microtransaction-realism from each hole games
and small cute-pixels-cozy games will be even bigger
so big that the audiences will have almost no overlaps
well, there will also be mobile gaming, but that's our burden to bear
but that's just my "competent opinion" from the couch
fathom juniper
it just... boggles my goddamn mind that we somehow live in an age where acti blizz isn't just a corrupt and morally bankrupt company led by the most over-paid CEO in recent memory
but they also have a confirmed bodycount to their name, and...
nothing - it feels like there's barely any buzz around it
the only sources that i see talking about it are the same places that have been talking about their predatory monetization tactics and unetchical work conditions for years
other than that - nothing 
polar dragon
twin yarrow
dam, no preview, now i have to watch it to know what it is about
bleak coral
fathom juniper
so a studio made out of sony and actiblizz refugees
best of luck for all of them
and i hope this company won't make the same mistakes their previous employer did
in current climate - it's best to distance yourself from them as much as you can
stable kindle
i would say the concern should be more "i hope none of the people that moved have the same mindset as the kind of people under fire right now or nothing is going to change and the cycle of abuse will simply continue"
if any of these sort of people are there.... "same mistakes" is inevitable
scenic wigeon
https://twitter.com/ign/status/1420383801616764947?s=21
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
gentle cloak
The things blizzard does aren't mistakes. They're intentional choices. For example, Hong Kong see: the Chinese market and the money in it
Also see: sexism
polar dragon
well sexism doesn't sell
stop acting like big corps are untouchable is the first step toward change.
yall be defeatist, and what even if blizz doesn't get punished from this?
should you (i mean people in general) stop trying?
stable kindle
stop acting like big corps are untouchable is the first step toward change.
easier said than done when the previous big corps literally felt no consequences, that's why i'm saying it's absolutely important actiblz is held accountable and made an example of
and its not like people have stopped bringing awareness to those previous allegations, its that the vast majority of people frankly dont care ¯_(ツ)_/¯
polar dragon
i think we agree
i just hate it when people says oh yeah im not doing anything because their actions don't mean anything
in the same vein, politicians never do what I want so I don't vote
twin yarrow
you guys at least can vote for somebody and they will be elected
we here don't vote so all this farce called elections won't even be legitimate due to underattendance, otherwise it'll be another case of pre-written results and another 6 years of happy future for everyone
and we fail. every time
and here.. i don't even know how to change the situation, when i have stopped buying actiblizz's stuff since 2018
and everybody i know as well
gentle cloak
stop acting like big corps are untouchable is the first step toward change.
yall...
They ARE untouchable. They just bribe people to do nothing
lofty pecan
Jesus the current diablo 4 head and the riot mmo head are both involved in this, as well as the current wow head
scenic wigeon
https://kotaku.com/inside-blizzard-developers-infamous-bill-cosby-suite-18473787...
wait what
how long ago was that?
polar dragon
They ARE untouchable. They just bribe people to do nothing
bribe who? the judges? you know this isn't some class action lawsuit but a state court case right? you got any proof for that or just some defeatist propaganda?
blizz still exists because people continues to play their games, just spread the word, and maybe consider not supporting them for a while until they change their course.
bad press does matter. otherwise companies won't spend so much money in PR, marketing, etc.
also im not saying that this means anything significant, but AVTI stock did slightly decrease over the last week. investors care about press. bad press = fewer investors.
scenic wigeon
bribe who? the judges? you know this isn't some class action lawsuit but a state...
that whole not supporting them thing is easy because I never bought alot of their games anyway
I only got the Crash and Spyro-related games
scenic wigeon
well then you can start not buying even harder
I can do that one
gentle cloak
bribe who? the judges? you know this isn't some class action lawsuit but a state...
my evidence being that nothing EVER happens to these companies. At least outside of the EU
polar dragon
even if it didn't happen in the past, it can start now
i don't understand the attitude you are having.
racism still runs rampant nowadays, so what? stop fighting it?
tall hornet
strikes seem like the most useful action
stable kindle
They ARE untouchable. They just bribe people to do nothing
thats why everyone needs to hold their ass to the fire and hold them accountable dude, being complacent because "well nothing happens anyway" is being part of the problem
its a really poor stance to have
why bother doing anything nothing ever happens anyway, who cares!
thats just genuinely an awful way to see things
and it really does a disservice to all the employees at these companies that are trying their best to work towards change and are fighting the system and the guys at the top every step of the way
there's a reason actiblz employees went on strike today, there are reasons they are still there, they are protesting, they are striving for change. you don't support these employees if your attitude towards this is "these companies are untouchable anyway"
lofty pecan
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802615525141643265/870111585128026203/Scr...
goddammit i missed my chance to short the stock
the news broke like last week and the stock didnt go down until news of the company's poor performance today broke
polar dragon
Tbf, poor working environment usually correlates to poor performance
lofty pecan
yah well i just kinda found it funny that the stock didnt drop until today
when the work productivity rumors came out, not when the work place rumors came out
polar dragon
Fair point
lofty pecan
Lmao theres a picture of blizzard employee “jesse mccree” posing with cosby’s picture
wraith cradle
It finally happened
Someone speedrunned Sekiro while blindfolded
The madlad did it in only 4 hours and half which is less than my time
broken smelt
Yeah, LilAggy is a beast, he's been routing it for quite a while now (It ain't me)
fallen sky
aggy but little
wraith cradle
Wasn't LilAggy
lofty pecan
Yeah, LilAggy is a beast, he's been routing it for quite a while now (It ain't m...
hey he named himself after you, thats an honor
broken smelt
hey he named himself after you, thats an honor
Lmao, I wish
polar dragon
you are just being humble
stable kindle
posted further up #video-games message
low nymph
Thank you, I hadn't noticed
Wait, I think this is where I found the link anyway... Geez my memory is getting worse by the minute. I'd already forgotten this is where I found it by the time I was done reading the article
stable kindle
lmao relatable
fathom juniper
i would say the concern should be more "i hope none of the people that moved hav...
yeaht that's kinda what i meant there
coral hawk
I bought a game a year+ ago and one of the first things they said was a create a char was going to be the NEXT thing they did, redownloaded it today and thats still not in lmao
they say now its not planned to be in the early access version of the game which kinda sucks tbh
clear hull
hey is there anybody here good at making PCs?
i could use some help, i'm planning on making a new rig but i don't really know what to get
https://galaxy.pk/ i was told to check this site for the kinds of parts available in my country of Pakistan but i don't really know where to begin or what parts are the best for their value
twin yarrow
well, first thing to consider is CPU, then graphic card
coral hawk
stoneshard
twin yarrow
motherboard is picked after CPU to match its characteristics
then memory, RAM and hard drives
broken smelt
primarily, set a budget for yourself it will help a whole bunch
twin yarrow
yep
power unit is also important, it is picked to meet all the power requirements
everything else is optional
like, frame is supposed to hold everything, so nothing would stay outside
input and output devices can be anything
well, first thing is CPU.. like Aggy said, it's important to know what will be the price range, and what purposes pc will serve
other than that.. usually people prefer AMD hardware, if they want good performance for nice value
especially last generations
clear hull
well is there anybody who can kind of walk me through this? here's my requirements really..
- Action games like DMC5, DOOM Eternal, Bayonetta, Vanquish, Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance...
- Emulation for things like PSX, PS2 and PS3...
- 3D Modeling for blender and alike
from what i asked around basically all of these are kind of linked together really
broken smelt
what's your budget?
clear hull
i'm looking for something with an Intel CPU and an Nvidia GPU
currently i don't have one. basically i'll take what ever's the best i can and work down from that, so lets say... not like 2-3k cause that's stupid maybe under 1000 bucks?
broken smelt
also are you set with going intel, or open with going amd
clear hull
tbh i'm fine with anything really
its hard for me to know though cause i hear some people say 1 thing or another
i hear emulation's easier with Intel but their way more expensive
broken smelt
I noticed the 3D modelling and that has better performance on the AMD atm, particularly blender
clear hull
that said outside of PS3 emulation everything like PS2 should run fine on MOST things really
well for blender it doesn't really matter i guess? since natively you can have your GPU + CPU work together on renders
which is what i'm doing now
broken smelt
I'm assuming the budget is in USD?
clear hull
yes admittedly the site is in PKR but USD to keep things simple
causes basically i was told by my current Computer guy that this site has alot more gaming specialized stuff
and it's more likely what i find will be from a site like this, so i need to get a quote from here and share it with him
for basically a whole new system, CPU, GPU, Motherboard, Case etc etc
oh sorry
some people suggested i use benchmark sites to get a good idea of what i want
lethal drift
big game
clear hull
https://www.techspot.com/article/1999-doom-eternal-benchmarks/ but there's so many parts its like...
i can't tell what to go with
its really overwhelming
broken smelt
doom eternal uses a whole lot of vram at ultra nightmare setting 4k resolution
one big caviet atm is, gpu prices are completely awful
clear hull
i know
broken smelt
good good ^_^
clear hull
but really regardless i need baselines
and well worse case scenario i can always step down from there
but i need a FULL list
broken smelt
however, the market is slowly improving
clear hull
how can you tell?
broken smelt
crypto market be falling, etherium is moving to proof of stake (I forget exactly when)
also recently there has been a whole bunch of 3060's hitting the 2nd hand market in china
clear hull
thank god ugh
screw those guys, anyways but yeah either way like i need to know my CPU, GPU, motherboard etc..
clear hull
crypto market be falling, etherium is moving to proof of stake (I forget exactly...
those second hand 3060s maybe are what's on this site...
coral hawk
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor 3.59 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB (31.9 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
clear hull
that might explain why there's here in pakistan
coral hawk
I got this for about 2400 usd
clear hull
jesus
coral hawk
and have had zero issue running anything
clear hull
JUST for the processor?
clear hull
oh phew
coral hawk
those are just the important bits
clear hull
well i'm looking for a PC, tower
coral hawk
yes but you asked for a baseline
clear hull
oh i see well i meant like in terms of the actual part names and etc
coral hawk
I'm saying this is what I have and works for everything I could ever want to run
clear hull
cause like i mentioned earlier i need to show the guy the names of the parts and they have to be available on that site
broken smelt
well is there anybody who can kind of walk me through this? here's my requiremen...
@coral hawk the use case and budget be up here 
clear hull
thanks
but yeah so that site is key here since people here are kinda stubborn like that, i'm guessing they probably have to order it themselves from their supplier as well
@broken smelt have you looked at the site yet?
i'll be budgeting this in USD but the prices will most likely be given in PKR from the site as reference
broken smelt
yeah, putting together a rough parts list atm
clear hull
thanks
its weird cause like... AMD or Intel CPUs for example i get conflicting info on
like the guy was telling me not to get AMD cause they burn out but i've heard people say otherwise
or maybe they were talking about GPUs i'm not sure
i know that PS3 emulation Intel is preferred but that's still in it's infancy, still making strides at least
but more often than not i guess i'll probably be playing games and doing 3d modeling
broken smelt
intel 10th gen is decent in gaming if you can find them at a discount
AMD rn is straight up annihilating intel in a good portion of workstation applications, like blender
clear hull
maybe i'll try to reason with the guy then
because even on this site there's alot of AMDs being sold
but really this should be a Gaming Rig and Workstation rig really if that's possible
cause having a good GPU in blender i've noticed will really matter
but also CPUs alot of programs prefer intel? but is it usually a problem?
broken smelt
yeah, both matter a fair bit in blender
broken smelt
since you're using blender, it tends to favour amd performance wise (at least that's what benchmarks show anyways)
does the motherboard need on board wifi at all?
broken smelt
good to know ^_^
clear hull
since i can get those adapters here cheaply enough
plus i was smart enough to set up hard lines from my router to my room and other places if need be
worse case scenario i genuinely have a good free 10ft of Ethernet cable to run stuff from lol
broken smelt
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sHxCTJ @clear hull
here's a rough list, from what I can see everything is availible on the website you linked 
if need be, I'd change the Ryzen 5900x to a Ryzen 5800x to cut down a bit on price
clear hull
thanks alot @broken smelt , i hope things do get better like you said at least
i doubt i'll be able to get this all in 1 go right now but at least i can work towards it as things improve... i hope. x_X
actually hold up @broken smelt there's a compatibility warning on this
"Warning!Some AMD B550 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vermeer CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.
Note:Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case has a front panel USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port, but the Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard does not have sufficient USB 3.2 Gen 2 or Gen 1 headers. The case USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port will not be usable.
Note:Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.
(Flag issues/incompatibilities as incorrect.)"
broken smelt
some b550 motherboards might not have the latest BIOS installed
asking the vendor to update the BIOS is a good idea if you can
The front panal usb-c imo isn't really required, but is a nice to have
broken smelt
yeah you can, the particular mobo in the list has a BIOS flashback button
clear hull
oh ok
right well i guess i'll share it and see, thanks. but man 2000 bucks..
its almost 3k on pc part builder damn
broken smelt
yeah, it's quite a bit, but honestly will last many many years
clear hull
i hope so, tbh i have this very bad feeling though i might not be able to afford this
broken smelt
clear hull
yeah..
i mean i did say my budget was 500-1000 earlier and i'd drop down
so lets see maybe if i share this with my guy he might give some alternatives
broken smelt
🤞
clear hull
while you were combing the site aggy did you see anything lower tier that might be worth looking into?
broken smelt
5800x for the cpu, 3070 for gpu
clear hull
right i'll keep those on me too
broken smelt
👍
clear hull
AMD Rayzen and Nvidia right?
broken smelt
yeah
clear hull
right intel's naming system is different stupid question
broken smelt
I should have specified
broken smelt
no worries
clear hull
bleak coral
bring back Rhythm Heaven
lusty pendant
Rhythm heaven is the best video game ever
bleak coral
lofty pecan
yep looks pretty cool
ign chat is cancer tho
solar ash looks great, kinda has shadow of colossus vibes on boss fights
rancid token
I turn chat off on presentations
lofty pecan
🤢 rip its an epic exclusive
junior crown
magic spruce
Finally!!!
low nymph
https://kotaku.com/activision-blizzard-hires-union-busting-firm-as-workers-1847386654
This is incredible
polar dragon
you would think that the first thing blizz should do when they find themselves in a hole is to stop digging, but they just managed to dig deeper
stable kindle
well the guys at the top calling the shots dont see this as digging a hole
tall hornet
well in some sense this IS them solving the problem
the problem for them is that people are unhappy and trying to change things
they're not interested in rooting out abusers, there's nothing profitable about that
twin yarrow
like i said, they will try even harder to make sure nobody will ever hear anything, lesson has been learned
it's pointless
the whole direction needs to go, or nothing will be changed
tame veldt
mystic wave
lethal drift
vivid mesa
that TWEWY art style is so good
woven breach
I tried the new fix for nintendo switch's KANSEI DRIFTO, for now it's fixed
Will monitor it for another 3 months or so
crimson fossil
noice, hopefully it lasts till december when the deck starts emulating it better than the og hardware can run it lol. jkjkjk but seriously its a joke, no wars started pls
sleek quiver
The Steam Deck looks like it will also drift tbf lol
woven breach
noice, hopefully it lasts till december when the deck starts emulating it better...
Kek
woven breach
The Steam Deck looks like it will also drift tbf lol
Yea. Though they can use a proper stick rather than tiny sticks like switch's
I got no plans on getting it, so if any of y'all get it, I wanna know the experience 
sleek quiver
Neon White looks super fun, but just looking at the gameplay showcase, it looks like a lot of platforming
I remembered trying out the Ghostrunner demo and was having a real hard time just minutes into the game
But I really like how fast-paced it was though
Nowadays, I really do like fast-paced gameplays
lofty pecan
i think the only big problem i have with neon white is that there are no guns
you only shoot out of cards(?) somehow
sleek quiver
From the looks of it, cards only acts as a UI, right? So, we can “use” cards to shoot, or discard to use it’s special effect
lofty pecan
yah but if i see a card with a shotgun in my hand, i expect to see a shotgun
not some bullets shooting out of nowhere
everything else looks cool af tho
fervent gyro
This looks really interesting, I mean, you get to play as a cat! ❤️
https://youtu.be/P4l6uWxe-vk
untold hornet
oh my goodness
deft tree
anyone that watched (and have not watched) Annapurna Showcase a few hours back should try out Storyteller
The demo is on steam and It's a great puzzle game
sleek quiver
yah but if i see a card with a shotgun in my hand, i expect to see a shotgun
Yeah, it’s just a design decision. They could’ve gone with anything else or even a real gun model and I don’t think it wouldn’t really change how the game works or feels
woven breach
This looks really interesting, I mean, you get to play as a cat! ❤️
https://you...
That game is letter away from being an aussie sim
astral edge
Has anyone here played enter the gungeon
crisp marsh
should i buy dead cells?
lethal drift
I remember my cousin was obsessed with Gungeon
astral edge
Thinking of buying gungeon
wraith cradle
This looks really interesting, I mean, you get to play as a cat! ❤️
https://you...
I swore that game was cancelled years ago, I'm glad still lives
hybrid jetty
i mean not really
only 3 actual games there they just made special limited edition boxes
if we see persona 5 royal golden or somethin then we'll be in trouble
twin yarrow
I swore that game was cancelled years ago, I'm glad still lives
years? i think i saw that thing last year during PS5 presentation
clearly remember that RIP HUMANS graffiti
low nymph
polar dragon
dire condor
activision has a hostile work environment, and other stories tonight on surprises-no-one news :/
sleek quiver
$hit like these happens everywhere tbh, it’s not only ActiBlizz or the gaming industry, what surprises me is how there was no consequences of his action there
fathom juniper
maybe
HOPEFULLY
all of this crap coming out now
will change some things in the future
sleek quiver
Here in my place, dude would go straight to serving jail time
fathom juniper
or AT LEAST raise awareness
sleek quiver
The bad thing (or reaction, I guess) about this is how people seem to think this is a gaming culture problem, when it’s not
You see people relating this to how bad W3R was
I think some people still don’t get the point and still think “EA bad, monetization bad” kind of stuffs
fathom juniper
it's not a gaming problem
it's a corporate problem
sleek quiver
You know, the usual gaming today problems
sleek quiver
it's not a *gaming* problem
it's a *corporate* problem
Exactly
spark mason
@polar dragon Dead cells is good, but I got bored of it
100 hours in working on 5bc
I can perfect clear biomes, maybe take up to 3 hits
consitently
but bosses just seem to melt me
especially on tactics
you guys need to try curse of the dead gods
polar dragon
After 40 hours of really trying to get into the game, I think Dead Cells just isn't for me.
My cycle goes like this: 30-40 no hit kill spree -> lose the spree to an off-screen projectile or burrowing enemy -> lose out on unlocks and equipment -> give up.
I don't outright die and I understand that the bonus equipment probably isn't needed to win. But man the incentive in this game is just not fun, not for me.
It takes the "just don't get hit bro" mentality to another level (and yeah, let's not mention the speedrun gate). I'm out.
my rant from a while ago
hardy onyx
The only ones in Fox's list that I haven't played are Isaac and XCOM, but the others are all great fun
spark mason
never even hear of x com
polar dragon
you guys need to try curse of the dead gods
its on my list. but i got back into FTL recently so...
polar dragon
never even hear of x com
how dare you
spark mason
still haven't played isaac
lusty pendant
*vents away
remote marsh
oh no
fathom juniper
oh no
hardy onyx
Curse of the Dead Gods was fun but didn't really grab me
spark mason
I tried gungeon
I like it
but god damnit why is it so difficult
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENTER THE GUNGEON
polar dragon
oh yeah i should add gungeon to that list too
spark mason
me too
spark mason
I think I'm gonna pick up wizard of legend
polar dragon
but god damnit why is it so difficult
i can clear 70% win rate to dragun but only beat the lich once
spark mason
Thing about gungeon
is it is a raw skill game
You either will never beat in 100 hours
Or you can beat it consistently no matter the build (almost)
Dead cells is good too
spark mason
But all the reviews I see for it say "it's okay to make mistakes, you can heal"
fathom juniper
polar dragon
we live in a society
spark mason
THERE GOES 30% OF MY HP
polar dragon
that doesn't accept XCOM as rgl
fathom juniper
polar dragon
time to rise up gamers
spark mason
AND IT WAS THE ONLY ENEMY
junior crown
Rimworld is a story generating rogue-like.
polar dragon
is it is a raw skill game
I thought DC is the Hardcore one. Though I suppose both statements aren't mutually exclusive
spark mason
I thought DC is the Hardcore one. Though I suppose both statements aren't mutual...
DC is hardcore, but gungeon is probably peak hardcore
We're not gonna mention DD
polar dragon
i would reverse that, but then again I have my personal opinion on DC
just because of the no hit gate
polar dragon
We're not gonna mention DD
I beat DD on hardest diff twice 
spark mason
Won't make or break a run
polar dragon
no i agree
but i can't help getting frustrated when im always like 55-56 enemies in then get hit
im not saying you need it, it's just frustrating for me personally
sleek quiver
Yeah I can understand that
What’s always important in feedback is how you actually feel instead of just facts about how the game works
spark mason
Thing is
playing 5bc
I tried it with a sheild
and the sheild really helps
But it's just not fun for me
Cuz I usually like having 2 weapons that work together
And I only even bother with the sheild against projectiles or bosses
Might get back into it
polar dragon
yeah. not every game needs to fit everybody.
i do love DC parry mechanic though, the reason why I play it to begin with.
spark mason
cuz I didn't use the sheild too much
Oh I hate parry mechanics
Dodge rolls for the win
polar dragon
yeah
sleek quiver
Parries can be fun, just because of how good it can feel to hit multiples of it
polar dragon
my favorite gun in gungeon is perhaps the fightsaber
sleek quiver
But just standing there and waiting for enemies to do their animations, feels longer than it is
polar dragon
it's a gun but when you reload you parry while making lightsaber sound
TLDR: most of the games we discussed are great games, just not for everyone
like my mother once said, I love all of you, just not necessarily at the same time.
polar dragon
tfw your favorite LoL team is a coinflip. Sometimes they pop off, sometimes they int in the most confusing manner.
next patio
decided to replay shovel knight again, kinda missed it
rancid token
Shovel Knight is hella good
rugged fjord
From the 2B SC6 Discord
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/505759325445423122/866760196746248192/Es_K3vDXIAAxOOK.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/505759325445423122/866760225935196180/Es_K3jpXMAEMyRs.png
@acoustic stone We got an entire Discord full of 2B emotes.
Well, it's a 2B Discord for learning how to play her in Soulcalibur VI, but we also got the emotes.
lofty pecan
tfw your favorite LoL team is a coinflip. Sometimes they pop off, sometimes they...
whats ur favorite lol team? cuz if its in the lcs this could be describing most of the teams
also ngl eldest souls looks a lot like titan souls with the top down pixelated view and only soulslike boss fights
polar dragon
whats ur favorite lol team? cuz if its in the lcs this could be describing most ...
lmao true.
but the team in question is FNC. they lost to Misfits today despite having a decent lead early game.
i just wish they put hyli on anything but the Morgana so he can shine. watching him on a passive supp is depressing.
lofty pecan
ah ok
tho i feel fnc was steamrolling the past few weeks and then now theyve hit a slump for some reason
polar dragon
yeah they are like that. tomorrow they would face MAD so it's also going to be tough
we will see.
brave zodiac
has anybody here played skul the hero slayer?
stable kindle
it was on my wishlist for a bit when it dropped on steam but i never picked it up :/a
dire warren
guys we just lost the best game of all... the google doodle 😔
scenic wigeon
guys we just lost the best game of all... the google doodle 😔
aw man
hopefully somebody archived it
that was really really high-production for a Google Doodle
woven breach
They always archive their doodles
I love their savoy doodle
Rhythm game
It's pretty well charted for something that was only up for few days
scenic wigeon
I remember there was this Valentines Day one that I really liked
coarse nacelle
@echo blade oh if uve done the three dreamers, u should be able to finish the game with the normal ending
so u dont have to do anything else really
echo blade
lofty pecan
its a mobile game what do you expect :D
gentle cloak
Is nothing sacred anymore?
pokemon hasn't been sacred in a long time
dire warren
Is nothing sacred anymore?
it's been years since something was
stable kindle
Annndddd Pokemon Unite is P2W
looks at other mobile pokemon games, checks out tbh
coral hawk
has anybody here played skul the hero slayer?
Skul is my favorite 2d rougelite game whatcha wanna know
I have 79 hours in it lol
wraith cradle
Finished Iron Danger. It was nice but it feel too prologuey
polar dragon
its a mobile game what do you expect :D
Well Wild Rift is mobile but it's not P2W. I'm not saying Wild Rift is the examplar of mobile games, but at least it understands that MOBA fundamentally can't have P2W elements.
Pokemon Unite just says YOLO.
stable kindle
i am not really surprised given how nintendo treats... well, all of its mobile titles
they sure leaned into the excessive monetization just like everyone else does
brave zodiac
Skul is my favorite 2d rougelite game whatcha wanna know
whats it about?
wraith cradle
Jesus this week has been brutal on games releases