video-games

[thorn tundra]

Lmao

[polar dragon]

Both of you are right

[scenic wigeon]

gaming

[polar dragon]

There was no mine left

[thorn tundra]

I still play with the old microsoft minesweeper design

[polar dragon]

Coolio

[thorn tundra]

Wait that doesnt have marking?

I recall if you mark all the bombs

[sleek quiver]

Game pulling a fast one on you

[thorn tundra]

Its already won

Or you just dont like marking/speedrunning

[coral hawk]

I just downloaded the mh stories 2 demo I'm excited

[mystic wave]

i like this minesweeper https://pwmarcz.pl/kaboom/

If you try to guess, the game will always choose the worst scenario.
Except when you are forced to guess (there are no safe cells anywhere). Then, guessing is completely safe.```

[woven breach]

hmmmm

if Minesweeper considered a rougelike

then what about solitaire?

[coral hawk]

Minesweeper is a tactical rpg

[thorn tundra]

If we go about roguelike/lite as "games with permadeath and procedural generation" a lot of arcade games would fit the bill yes

[woven breach]

was thinking about that too lol

anyway, I got my dobe joy con replacement

it got some caveat, but it's nice

here's the thing tho

somehow the official pricing here and the one on the amazon is diff

the one on amazon is 45% more exp than the one I bought

and with amazon price point, I don't think I recommend it

it's Dobe TNS-19252

[coral hawk]

Ew some random just messaged me about joining his seever

Rude

[dire warren]

dunno if you guys are willing to help, but i'm doing a project and i just need simple, classic, kinda videogame items you usually get

like, stat buffers, healing items, etc.
my mind is empty

[twilit wren]

Okay so I forgot who convinced me to buy strikers on the switch but how could you

The day after it literally goes on sale for steam

Buyer's remourse is striking me so hard

Anywho fun game, played on hard and that was a mistake lol

On the first actual boss and jesus christ so much health and resistance shield why

[woven breach]

yea it do be like that

but it's still a meaty persona game

[bleak coral]

The warden is oboxious

teaches you how to dodge for sure

[pulsar schooner]

as a fromsoft virgin, would trying Sekiro be a good idea?

[wraith cradle]

https://www.gog.com/game/shadowrun_trilogy

SHADOWRUN TRILOGY FOR FREE

[mortal siren]

wow nice

[rancid token]

Sekiro I don't think falls into the same category as the rest so I would say no, I'd recommend Dark Souls 1 or Bloodborne if you have a PS4

[wraith cradle]

https://yachtclubgames.com/2021/06/official-shovel-knight-cameo-list/

Lmao

[acoustic jacinth]

oh wow that’s such a steal, if i didn’t already have the trilogy i’d get it

[mystic wave]

its really different from souls series, so familiarity with From games dont matter so much. it's fine if you expect to die a lot. as a DS fan myself i rather prefer the combat in Sekiro

[wraith cradle]

Jesus steam so overloaded downloading things are impossibly slow

[dire condor]

Why does League Chinese server require you to have a chinese ID to register?

Unheard of

[sleek quiver]

Chinese laws

Basically any form of online accounts in China, including gaming accounts requires a phone number

[dire condor]

But not Korean, right?

[bleak coral]

https://youtu.be/6jaAh6txy-M

I love this video

[sleek quiver]

Shouldn’t be for Korean

[polar dragon]

Wait don't Koreans also have ID attached accounts?

[sleek quiver]

They do? Haven’t heard of it, only one I know is China

[polar dragon]

I think I read online where it's the opposite.
Korea requires ID while China doesn't.
So many Korean players smurf on China server instead.

Let me see if I can find the source.

Okay it appears that both countries require ID per the various posts I found online.

I guess it explains why account boosting is so damn popular in China. Partly because your account is strictly attached to you. So fake street cred is more "valuable."

[dire condor]

So us westerns can't play on korean server too

And that's fine by Riot too

[junior crown]

I love how they include their own game in the list imao.

[polar dragon]

Correct. There are multiple posts online about this.

[mystic wave]

their govt dont like anonymity online or something

[polar dragon]

I think it's government mandated. Riot can't do anything even if they want to.

[dire condor]

I mean, it's their own game. Who can then? xD

[polar dragon]

What do you mean? A company has to obey the local rules to operate.

[dire condor]

True true

[fathom juniper]

it's like...

like i'm looking into a mirror

[dire condor]

At least Japan server is free

Is the ping good though for EU players?

[polar dragon]

Probably not? I mean that about half way across the world.

Why do you want to play on Asian servers anyhow

[dire condor]

for the fun

I want to see if they are as good as they are rumoured to be

[polar dragon]

Nope

At Diamond+ yes because fewer boosted accounts

Say Plat4 below, nah

Average players are average everywhere

[dire condor]

I see a lot of high profile streamers playing at Asian servers

like cowsep

and LS

[polar dragon]

Source: played there and have friends who are still playing there.

[polar dragon]

Yeah but that's at the top of the ladder

Well idk where you stand

But if you are a gold or below scrub like me, it's the same everywhere

[dire condor]

I am silver

probably like you

[polar dragon]

At least in NA you can read how much they loved your mom last night in English

[polar dragon]

Yeah

[dire condor]

Look, if JP server has awful ping I'll go to Russian

I've played on russian server for like 2 years

and has stable ping

[polar dragon]

How's the player base? How long do yoy have to wait for matches? Genuine question.

[dire condor]

Actually it's much better than eune and you can curse other people's moms without them replying anything

[polar dragon]

Lmao

[dire condor]

It's overall less toxic seriously

[polar dragon]

Yeah though nowadays I mostly just ARAM n chill

[stable kindle]

is it because, perhaps, you cannot read what they're saying

though granted certain regions do have less overall.... Gamer Urges(tm), like i heard years ago how much more polite jp players tend to be on mmos and such

[dire condor]

Truth be told, League failed hard in Japan

[stable kindle]

well i am not referring to league specifically lol

[dire condor]

So that's the most prevalent reason why they are so polite and not competitive

[polar dragon]

Is any eSport big in JP even?

[stable kindle]

i realize you're joking but false equivalence

[twilit wren]

NOOOOOOOOOOO THAT WAS LIKE SO LONG

pain

[polar dragon]

xD

[dire condor]

write it all over again

[polar dragon]

Try Ctrl z

See if it's still there

[stable kindle]

I can dm it to you

swears aren't allowed here, don't use them

[polar dragon]

Damn it

Why

[stable kindle]

fox.

[twilit wren]

sorry to necro but like holy crap? could they please make the AI a little smarter?? all of my characters died within the first minute since they decided to use their power against her strong and instead of healing proceeded to spam and then get destroyed by the AOE like GUYS PLEASE I BROUGHT YOU TO HEAL

yeah no I'm sorry lmao I swear like a sailor so it's taking time to get used to it

[polar dragon]

Which context is this

[dire condor]

I think I gave up on the first half of the first sentence

[twilit wren]

oof

[dire condor]

probably hades

[twilit wren]

it was in reference to something lyte said like uhhhh 4 hours ago? idk

[polar dragon]

Lmao

[twilit wren]

no strikers because my fix for hades-like content has gone too far

it's a drug I tell you

[dire condor]

I mean, this is offtopic so you are in wrong thread kinda

[polar dragon]

Hadeslike

[stable kindle]

Here I'm assuming #video-games message

[polar dragon]

Are we approaching a new genre

[twilit wren]

you play a game for 90 hours and your brain searches for it specifically

yeah that's it

[polar dragon]

Is this... it?

Hadeslike

[twilit wren]

thank you tatz

[twilit wren]

now every genre is going to be "game"-like

COD-like

Enter the Gungeon-like

Minecraft-like

[polar dragon]

I'm going to start using Hadeslike to annoy people

[twilit wren]

rougelite? nahhhhh hadeslike

[polar dragon]

Roguelite is so 1990s

[stable kindle]

by people do you mean kraja

[twilit wren]

true.

[polar dragon]

Get with the time, it's Hadeslike

[polar dragon]

Maybe xD

[twilit wren]

the future is now, old man

[fathom juniper]

Oi!

[polar dragon]

Lmao

[fathom juniper]

[tall hornet]

one day there will be discourse about what games qualify as hadeslikes

and then people will invent the term "hadeslite"

[polar dragon]

That day is today

[twilit wren]

there already has 😔

[fathom juniper]

and i'm gonna lose my goddamn marbles

[stable kindle]

not sure you have them now

[fathom juniper]

never did

[tall hornet]

rogue is a hadeslite

[polar dragon]

Are Rogue and Nethack Hadeslike?

[polar dragon]

Beat me to it

Hades is really just a Bastion like though

[twilit wren]

honestly, every game is just ponglike

and that's a fact

[polar dragon]

But pong is tennislike

So every video game is a sport game

eSports games™ to be exact

[twilit wren]

imma need a minute to sit on that

[dire condor]

I disagree with that

[twilit wren]

every game is a lifelike game

[polar dragon]

How long do you think League would last

[dire condor]

E sports and sports are soooooo different, fox

[bleak coral]

Valorant

[twilit wren]

both make me sweat like a pig

[polar dragon]

It's a joke lol

[bleak coral]

Siege

fighting games

[polar dragon]

Oh yeah

[bleak coral]

especially fighting games

[polar dragon]

Somehow I forgot FGs

[twilit wren]

wait siege in japan???

hm??????????

[tall hornet]

wait.... you reset after every game... you can gain points during your game and gain marginal buffs to your character... isometric viewpoint....

LEAGUE OF LEGENDS IS A HADES-LIKE

[bleak coral]

yeah

[twilit wren]

oh my god

riddler I wanna kiss you

[bleak coral]

Siege has a nice apac scene

[stable kindle]

every day i look at video games channel and lose my sanity

[bleak coral]

Japanese teams make it to the invitational

[dire condor]

Siege is even relevant at this point?

[polar dragon]

Yes

It's big

[fathom juniper]

welcome to the goddamn club

[stable kindle]

yeah but you're easy to rile

[polar dragon]

Enjoy your stay

[stable kindle]

Which is why fox does it

Lmao

[fathom juniper]

yeah

[polar dragon]

I don't

[dire condor]

Dude believe it or not I've muted all other channels other than offtopic

[fathom juniper]

cause fox hates me and my... barely existing sanity

[dire condor]

You are a nintendo hater everybody hates you

[fathom juniper]

i have my reasons

[dire condor]

bad person bad bad bad

[fathom juniper]

oh noooooooo
not the hecking nintendo

[bleak coral]

nintendo good

[fathom juniper]

at exploiting nostalgia

[polar dragon]

I propose that Hades is a strictly single player experience

[dire condor]

It's like me today I got so many hate dms because I dared to point out Xqc's dying stream career

[polar dragon]

So LoL is not a Hadeslike

We have standards around here

[fathom juniper]

oh no
not the hecking xqc

[polar dragon]

Not every game is Hadeslike

[fathom juniper]

wait
who dat again?

[dire condor]

a very famous streamer on Twitch

Playing only gtav rp

[polar dragon]

Who?

[fathom juniper]

well apparently he's not famous enough if i don't know him and his career is apparently dying

[dire condor]

He had like 120k viewers and now he has 50k

[polar dragon]

Lol kd aside I do know who he is

[fathom juniper]

oh nooooo

[dire condor]

so I said he is kinda fading away so I got hate dms xD

[twilit wren]

xqc is just pretty toxic lmao

[polar dragon]

I don't like his stream.
His voice is a bit incoherent
He's not entertaining to me

[fathom juniper]

this is so sad
Orpheus! Play despacito

[tall hornet]

gtaV RP... has guns in it... has a beautiful and in depth story... some characters are hot

gtaV RP servers are hades-like?

[polar dragon]

I visited his stream 3 times and gave up 10 mins in everytime

[twilit wren]

okay riddler kind of a stretch

[dire condor]

He used to be entertaining when he did variety and not gtav 24/7 streams

Now it's just too off

[polar dragon]

It's not single player though

[dire condor]

Doing 24/7 gtav streams for just 1 or 2 minute worth of content tops is just not worth it

[fathom juniper]

i mean
isn't that every ubisoft game released in the last 5 years?

24 hours of dull content for 2 minutes of legit fun?

[polar dragon]

Though his loss vs Charlie in chess is legendary though

[dire condor]

Well yeah but this is a different style of gaming

[polar dragon]

That clip is particularly funny

[dire condor]

I mean I get he has charisma and he chooses to use it on making content on gtav

but he is claimed to be a "variety" streamer

[polar dragon]

How did he even get big

[dire condor]

See

[stable kindle]

not fenyx, get out of here

[dire condor]

His name is xQcOw

[tall hornet]

streamers just appear out of nowhere with thousands of followers

[fathom juniper]

aight

[dire condor]

OW made him famous

[polar dragon]

No come back.

[dire condor]

Until his career ended after he burnt too many bridges and he got to streaming

[stable kindle]

fenyx had its flaws but was vastly more enjoyable than yet another assassin's creed rehash

[fathom juniper]

wot

[dire condor]

fenyx felt like a zelda port to PC

Not bad at least

[stable kindle]

the devs said they were inspired by botw, among other things

[dire condor]

yeah no shiet

[stable kindle]

either way it was a breath of fresh air compared to all their other stagnant releases lately

[polar dragon]

Do you want to build a roguelite?
It doesn't have to be a roguelite.

[fathom juniper]

i'm literally building an FPS as we speak

a P R O P E R FPS

[dire condor]

yeah true I feel like fenyx is the best game among all ubi titles released in 2021

[stable kindle]

And got no recognition lmao

[fathom juniper]

wait
fenyx is 2021?

[dire condor]

It's almost like everybody forgot about it

[polar dragon]

I'll eagerly await a new Portal game.

[stable kindle]

2020

[dire condor]

after a week

[stable kindle]

Dec 2020 iirc

[fathom juniper]

yeah - here's the thing

i feel like fenyx barely had any marketing behind it

[dire condor]

Don't. It'll be vr

[stable kindle]

it came out right after valhalla, so ubi kinda doomed it to mediocre reception

[fathom juniper]

i mean - it somehow completely missed me

[stable kindle]

which is a shame bc it was a genuinely enjoyable game with care put into it

[fathom juniper]

compare it to any other ubishaft game that has tv ads and what not all over the place

[dire condor]

All the budget went for Valhalla a few pennies for Fenyx

[stable kindle]

[polar dragon]

I don't even know what Ubisoft published recently

[dire condor]

R6 ripoffs

[polar dragon]

And E3 is like 2 weeks ago

[dire condor]

extraction

I can't remember anything else lmao

[polar dragon]

Wait is Siege Ubisoft?

[fathom juniper]

yeah?

[dire condor]

as always...?

[polar dragon]

Okay my brain doesn't register that

[fathom juniper]

come on, now
the whole series was published by goobisoft

as far back as...
1998? i think?

or was it 1999

[polar dragon]

Yeah im not too familiar with tom clancy auff

[fathom juniper]

the one developed by red storm

[fathom juniper]

neither was tom clancy himself

[polar dragon]

Lmao

[fathom juniper]

after 2003 ubisoft was slapping his name on every game that had even remotely military themes

even if he didn't have anything to do with those games

[polar dragon]

The McAfee treatment

[fathom juniper]

oooof

there's....
so many jokes i wanted to make here

but i don't wanna go there, not on this server

[polar dragon]

Lmao ik

It's so topical now too

[stable kindle]

squints

[fathom juniper]

[polar dragon]

[fathom juniper]

[polar dragon]

[fathom juniper]

[polar dragon]

[fathom juniper]

anyways...
VIDDY GAEMS!

[polar dragon]

It's Vidya Gaem

[fathom juniper]

a new ultrakill update dropped yesterday

and it's...
apparently really good

and hard as balls

[polar dragon]

motion sickness

[fathom juniper]

is aw it on stream today and it was just

hoooooooo boyyyyyyyyy
i can't wait for the full game to come out

[polar dragon]

Can't do Borderlands, can't do Bioshock

Or FPS in general

[fathom juniper]

oh yeah if you can't do that then ultrakill witll totally give you motion sickness

[polar dragon]

Can do L4D2 though

[fathom juniper]

this game is...
fast

[polar dragon]

Yeah it looks fun.

[fathom juniper]

we're talking quake3 defrag fast
we're talking modded doom 2 fast

[polar dragon]

Risk of Rain 2 fast?

Just kd RoR2 is quite slow compared to other games

[fathom juniper]

here
https://youtu.be/_77kCCQvQEo

it's

[polar dragon]

Yeah can't play it

[fathom juniper]

also

[polar dragon]

But I like watching clips like this

[fathom juniper]

love that texture choice

[fathom juniper]

mate
i have a whole playlist of that stuff

[polar dragon]

Honestly I'm not even sure if I have motion sickness

[fathom juniper]

from all sorts of games

[polar dragon]

Like I can't do Firewatch, Borderlands, and Minecraft

[fathom juniper]

man that sucks

[polar dragon]

Maybe the artstyle has something to do with it

[fathom juniper]

you should be able to do dusk tho
https://youtu.be/wbVyelq-qFo

because it's got heaps of accessibility options

FOV, auto aim, 6DOF, lots of graphics settings and other things

[bleak coral]

Metroid Dread looks good

so does WarioWare

and Mario Party Superstars

i hope they play well

[dire condor]

metroid dread looks like ori but worse

[fathom juniper]

yo i may not be the biggest nintendo fan
but i gotta defend them here

it looks nothing like ori

[polar dragon]

Hot take

I think Ori is more "open" like literally than Metroid

Well i put open in quotation mark and use the word literally

[dire condor]

I just don't like this style of gaming

[polar dragon]

I'm good at English

[dire condor]

I don't think it's unique

[polar dragon]

Ori is the only Metroidvania I genuinely like

[fathom juniper]

it's...
you know this is the series that literally started it's own genre, right?

[polar dragon]

HK was a bit of a slog to me, I stayed for the combat though

[dire condor]

yeah I was at primary school then

10 years ago

[fathom juniper]

can i ask how old are you?

[dire condor]

no sorry middle school

[polar dragon]

Yeah I'll look into it after my backlog and Divinity 2

[dire condor]

going 25 in August

[polar dragon]

Same but September

[fathom juniper]

[polar dragon]

God

I feel old

[dire condor]

you got a quarter life crisis

[fathom juniper]

holy moly
did i...
actually convince someone to actually play a proper FPS?

is it?
is today the day?

[polar dragon]

I don't know where my mid life is, so I have decided to have an on going crisis.

[fathom juniper]

I don't know where my mid life is
it's wherever you want it to be

depending on your lifestyle, your diet and so on

[polar dragon]

How about dying in a crash though

You can't decide that (barring sensitive subject)

[dire condor]

not up to the above mentioned factors

Just swim

or take the bicycle

no crashes

[polar dragon]

Alright ima food, and then divinity 2 with fren

Escape from existential crisis

Good to be on summer break

[bleak coral]

It looks nothing like Ori

they're the same genre

Ori just has a different artstyle

[dire condor]

Same genre exactly

[wraith cradle]

Ended buying this game

https://store.steampowered.com/app/581270/Old_Mans_Journey/#:~:text=Old Man's Journey%2C a soul,journey through a sunkissed world.

Steam

Old Man's Journey

Old Man’s Journey, a soul-searching puzzle adventure, tells a story of life, loss, reconciliation, and hope. Entrenched in a beautifully sunkissed and handcrafted world, embark on a heartfelt journey interwoven with lighthearted and pressure-free puzzle solving. A visual narrative about life’s precious moments, broken dreams, and changed plans, ...

Price

$1.99

Recommendations

1611

Metacritic

76

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[eager hamlet]

Did ya play Scarlet Nexus yet, Albino?

[wraith cradle]

I decided to go dinner with the family while the game downloads

Let my younger brother the computer meanwhile

Like seriously 600kb per second wtf

[eager hamlet]

Yeesh

I downloaded it last night before going to sleep, so I had it installed already

Not sure yet on it though

Gameplay feels a little less fluid than Id like, but that might get better with unlocks

[wraith cradle]

What version did you get?

[eager hamlet]

Just the base one

[wraith cradle]

Same

[dire warren]

i feel like you guys deserve an update on miitopia

i'm at the dark lord fight but i want to solo it, mainly because miitopia really hates soloing and because i've been told it's stupid and unhelpful, yet probably possible. so i've been grinding like crazy for the past few hours for a completely useless goal

in other news, about 7 of the team like lemonade, i can no longer keep track of resentments, and someone bought someone else a sofa

[rich loom]

amazing
makes me want miitopia more

[dire warren]

honestly miitopia checks all the boxes for me

• jrpg
• killer soundtrack
• obscene amount of food items and clothes to collect
• all your favourite characters, all of them
• cool unique battle mechanics
• a fire breathing horse
• stuff can be very gay sometimes
• it can be as serious and as memey as you like
• vampires on your team
• all the classes are actually balanced really well (we don't talk about tank)
• top place for dumb oc headcanons
• flower class. just. flower class

[wraith cradle]

Ok. But is it a Roguelite?

[stable kindle]

just saw one of the terraria folks rt this 🤔 https://store.steampowered.com/app/1432860/Sun_Haven/

Steam

Sun Haven

Sun Haven is a multiplayer fantasy farming sim with dragons, magic, a main questline, RPG-style skill progression, and even a final boss.Greetings, Adventurer!You’ve just arrived in Sun Haven, a medieval town full of people from all walks of life doing their best to make their beloved town thrive as it once did. As a farmer, miner, fisher, warri...

Price

$24.99

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[wraith cradle]

Stardew Valleysn't

[stable kindle]

id personally compare it more to rune factory, but thats only bc i like rune factory lol

[dire warren]

||you lose all your levels twice during the story so
fox would argue that it counts||

[scenic wigeon]

may I introduce you to The Messenger

[eager hamlet]

Alright, played some more Scarlet Nexus

Its quite interesting so far

[wraith cradle]

Personally only the tutorial

You playing Lad or Ladette?

[eager hamlet]

Lad

Figured Id start with the default, and I tend to go for melee anyway

[cyan blaze]

Total war warhammer 2

if i buy it, do i get all factions that aren't in the dlc

?

or do i have to own warhammer 1 aswell to get the 4 original ones

[wraith cradle]

It's difficult to explain

Warhammer 1 and 2 deal with different parts of the world where different races and factions are relevant

Warhammer 1 is about the Empire, brettonia, Wood elves, chaos warriors, Norsca, dwarves, greenskins, vampire count....

While Warhammer 2 is about High Elves, Dark Elves, Skaven, lizardmen plus Tomb Kings, Vampire Coast and other factions that overlap with 1

Then if you own both games you have access to Mortal empires. An ultrabig map that combines both maps

[eager hamlet]

Alright, reached a twist in Scarlet Nexus

I do wonder how predictable the story is gonna be

[wraith cradle]

I decided stop for today after the tutorial as I was tired

and I need a clear mind to play games with plot

[eager hamlet]

Fair

I ended up finishing Chapter 2

Pretty good so far

[wraith cradle]

Cool. Are you planning to replay both routes?

[tame veldt]

i'm still here

[polar dragon]

Call me a corpse because we have a necromancer over here

[tame veldt]

[eager hamlet]

Probably

Since they play entirely differently

[polar dragon]

where's you been?

[scenic wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825577392168370227/858142381102858270/20210625172901_1.jpg

I completed LEGO Batman 2

in, like, 4 days

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825577392168370227/858142223845425222/unknown.png

off to LEGO Batman 3

[coral hawk]

man the lego games are such a treat

[lofty pecan]

starting on route b of nier automata, why is there so much hacking 😩

[scenic wigeon]

agreed

this one has aged kinda...
not good...

but I'd still give it a 7/10

would recommend

[polar dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802615525141643265/858169165759774730/unknown.png

but but none of these except SoaSER is RTS

is this... is this what @fathom juniper feels when people "misclassify" games?

[sleek quiver]

When the tab is named RTS but you see none of the games that resembles the games that defined the genre back then like Starcraft and AoE

Yeah, genre is dead lmao

[rancid token]

It's funny because they could be considered it if you took the term literally

[sleek quiver]

I miss RTS

There’s only one RTS I know of today, Northgard

And it’s simplified a little

[scenic wigeon]

can Turn Based RPGs be considered Strategy games?

[rancid token]

I enjoyed my time with Command and Conquer but I was never good at them

[scenic wigeon]

I mean like, Final Fantasy, that kind of turn based

[rancid token]

Depends on whether you count stuff like Fire Emblem or Final Fantasy Tactics as turn based RPGs, I feel

[scenic wigeon]

if it's turn based 🤷‍♂️

[sleek quiver]

Same, never really good competitively but I will say I’m killing it with the bots

Still, at the heart of it, RTS feel more like management rather than Strategy. It’s only at the higher level of competitive play that strategy comes into mind

[scenic wigeon]

are Survival Horror games Strategy games

[sleek quiver]

no, they’re roguelikes

[scenic wigeon]

it's all connected...

[rich loom]

https://tenor.com/view/my-god-what-did-i-just-read-mindblown-gif-7897545

[polar dragon]

yes, absolutely. Real Time Strategy, you need to do well on the Real Time first.
i like the football analogy. you can have all the strategy in the world, but if you are 5'5 120lbs, you will get bulldozed, no matter what.

a good RTS, however, is one where the real time part isn't hard to be decent at

[lusty pendant]

it's the hackerman route

It's toned down after the tutorial though

[hybrid jetty]

unless you want to actually kill enemies lol

[wraith cradle]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/slycooper/images/c/cb/Bentley_3.png/revision/latest?cb=20200222051252&path-prefix=es

9S hacking teacher

[hybrid jetty]

its not platinumgames if there isn't a weird minigame that long overstays its welcome interrupting the actually good combat

[wraith cradle]

Also I love how the English VA of 9s looks like his exact opposite

[woven breach]

I mean

you can heavily exploit 9S hacking

just hack the biggest one, put some explosion upgrade and boom.

but I'd be lying if I said I love it

still prefer normal combat

[wraith cradle]

What I love is how seamless is the hacking music

[lusty pendant]

9S normal combat is pretty fun too

he just remote controls his weapons

[wraith cradle]

Ey people wanna see something absurd?

https://twitter.com/UweBollocks/status/1408534667788226560

Ethan Winters' Death Scream (@UweBollocks)

I'm not a lawyer or anything but this feels like a lawsuit waiting to happen

Retweets

4018

Likes

25308

Twitter · Jun 25, 2021, 9:16 PM

Like... Lmao

[woven breach]

TWD is still alive?

[wraith cradle]

They live on their crossovers

The fact you can make Negan and Noctis fight each other doesn't stop to amuse mr

[maiden ermine]

They're called "the walking dead" for a reason-

[junior crown]

still can't ger over the gun

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583419755608801312/858198514743509042/gun.png

[dire condor]

Oh, wow.

[twin yarrow]

feels like a poster for a fan fiction tbh

[polar dragon]

look, i think stealing/copying art isn't cool and all

but people throw around the word lawsuit too liberally

[scenic wigeon]

oh my god that's so hilarious

[fathom juniper]

me: Mom! Can we have some Remake 2?
mom: we have remake2 at home

[fathom juniper]

remake 2 at home:

[thorn tundra]

Wdym everyone loves angel attack

[dire warren]

so, miitopia's dark lord
my favourite part is the cutscene where my character yells, like 'we'll defeat you, all of us together!' while the camera is panned out enough to show a huge empty space where the rest of the party should be

i also love how i can farm one of the best stat-boosters in the game by repeatedly dying, and how the boss's strongest and most interesting attack is completely removed when you're on your own

[thorn tundra]

Ugh I want skul the hero slayer on the switch so bad

But still no release date other than summer 2021

[fresh crag]

https://youtu.be/6wEdk6_lE2c

[mystic wave]

Just found out the demo for new TWEWY is out. Looking forward to it

[tame veldt]

well it seemed that sgg was becoming less active in the places i was residing and one day I joined a server to surprise one of my friends and then I started being more active there. Anyway now i'm kicking it with @floral warren

[lofty pecan]

im considering getting my first platformer game, should i get:
-katana zero
-skul the hero slayer
-dead cells

[polar dragon]

none of those are true platformer though

there are platforming elements

but not like actual platforming

[lofty pecan]

ok well action platformer then? idk the name of the genre

[polar dragon]

yeah im just trying to say that if you are looking for stuff like mario, those games aren't exactly similar

but if you are looking for 2D action games

i think katana zero is good

haven't played skul so no comment there

i gave up on dead cells because it's just not for me

[junior crown]

depends. You want a set crafted short experience? Go for Katana Zero.
You want a game to play for some time and polish, but face the difficulty? Dead Cells.
Charming game with a bit of jank but still a ton of fun? Skul the Hero Slayer.

not to say other games aren't difficult

but they are easier to learn the patterns for and get used to compared to dead cells def.

[lofty pecan]

skul seems pretty fun because of all the different playstyles, how smooth is the combat and how hard is the game? how useful is the progression system compared to say, hades? also hard is the game to play with kbm?

[fathom juniper]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the irony

bueno

[polar dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802615525141643265/858398760526282852/unknown.png

[twin yarrow]

i don't think Dead cells is a nice pick for a first platformer, since it's difficulty depends on player's movement skill

[polar dragon]

I think Ori is a really fun game even as a platformer

Challenging

Fair

[twin yarrow]

maybe it's safer to look towards some older games with more or less difficulty curve?

[polar dragon]

Unique mechanic

[wraith cradle]

So I did

I went on an Shopping spree

[coral hawk]

I want to play the second ori game cause it looks more fun

I liked 1 but it didn't have much to keep me goin in the story

[wraith cradle]

Guys wanna see something immortal?

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-06-26-valves-2007-shooter-team-fortress-2-just-broke-its-all-time-steam-concurrent-players-count

The game that refused to die

[fathom juniper]

[stable kindle]

and i will still never play it

[fathom juniper]

why not?

[wraith cradle]

Ey unnoven. Have you played this game? Need your opinion

https://store.steampowered.com/app/587260/Tokyo_Xanadu_eX/

Steam

Tokyo Xanadu eX+

Tokyo Xanadu eX+; a massive action RPG from the masters of the genre, Nihon Falcom! When high school student Kou Tokisaka encounters the nightmare realm known as the Eclipse, his world is forever changed.In this definitive version of Tokyo Xanadu, experience the game in 60 FPS along with new scenarios, new playable characters, new modes and more...

Price

$11.99

Recommendations

950

▶ Play video

[junior crown]

the player count is most likely just bots count mostly at this point lol

in tf2

[stable kindle]

zero interest

[junior crown]

the steam player count doesn't cut the bots from the real count

[fathom juniper]

i mean
i still enjoy some kf2 every now and then and it's playerbase usually orbits around 2k

3-4k on a good day
so

[wraith cradle]

I still play Siege

Although I fear they are phasing out support now they are releasing only one character per season

[junior crown]

more to say that the article doesn't take in account the fact most of the players are just bots or the fact it barely goes on with lacking support from Valve. It's on last leg, supported mostly by custom community servers and upkept on valve said only to inject new crates with random items from steam workshop.

[fathom juniper]

on one hand - yeah i've heard of it, and it sucks
on the other... it wouldn't be the first game kept on life support only by it's community

i mean - i literally just finished making a new gun for doom 2 and this game has been relying on it's community for over 20 years and is now stronger than ever so
maybe tf2 will turn around someday

[eager hamlet]

Sorry bit late but

Yeah I have

Its alright

Its kinda budget Persona but with Ys gameplay

[mystic wave]

budget persona is accurate. one thing though is that in persona npc without names are just that, faceless mobs. tokyo xanadu has that Falcom feel. every npc is a character, even though their role minor, it feels like they live their own lives.

[twilit wren]

how's my favorite channel doing

[wraith cradle]

Oh cool

Anyhow I think in the end I have to pass

As I have bought enough already

And thanks for the reply anyhow

[eager hamlet]

Youre welcome

I will say its worth 12 bucks at least, its a solid little game

Just not on the level of Falcoms usual stuff

[wraith cradle]

So here are the games I bought:
-Library of Ruina.
-Scarlet Nexus
-TW: Shogun 2
-Old Man's Journey
-Tales of Berseria (Which, iirc you decided to stop playing it but I'm interested anyways)
-Final Fanyasy Type-0
-World of Final Fantasy
-Battlefield 4
-Tales of The Black Forest
-Some DLC for Total Warhammer 2
-Light Fairytale Episode 2

[twilit wren]

oh my

[dire condor]

I'm reeeal close to grabbing Scarlet Nexus, just based on some stills alone.

It looks good.

I did pick up Legend of Mana, can't wait until I've got a moment to dig into that.

[wraith cradle]

I heard Legend of Mana is unconventional for better or worse

[dire condor]

Genre conventions don't need to be followed.

I got lobotomy corp its pretty fun so far 😌

[maiden ermine]

Totally misread that as you actually got a lobotomy...I think I need more caffeine

[wraith cradle]

Library of Ruina is its sequel coincidentally

[stable kindle]

ooo interested if u enjoy

[eager hamlet]

Oh I didnt stop playing Berseria

I finished playing it

I just thought it was the weakest JRPG out of those I finished

And Scarlet Nexus is quite fun so far

[mystic wave]

lobotomy corp is great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDDMv6mPk2o

the characters really grew on me

[dire condor]

yes I played library game too its nice

[polar dragon]

still playing isaac

and the occasional hades

[dire condor]

respectable

[lethal drift]

The only thing I been playing is Atelier Rorona

[wraith cradle]

I only played both Ryzas

Boy, I'm such a sucker for experimental 2 hour games

[lethal drift]

Those are neat

[stable kindle]

for the like 2 people on this server that care https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU-f_MFB3Rs

[polar dragon]

i thought that was ruined king update for a moment

F

[stable kindle]

no i wish 😭

this is the last batch of champs that had audio files datamined way back in like.. feb or so, ekko, pyke and rek'sai. past this update is uncharted territory

unfortunately riot forge and airship syndicate are still radio silent

all airsyn's posted over the past months is some battle chasers rts and job postings

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/789289329322491925/858430881471266846/life_is_suffering.png

[wraith cradle]

You can always buy Battlechasers on preparation

[stable kindle]

https://gyazo.com/76b707b685db33a2d05e466be3f99835

[wraith cradle]

Fair 'nuff

[stable kindle]

i do want to go back to it tho, i just havent been in a mood for anything that requires more of my attention span than clicking cards in lor

[eager hamlet]

Pyke looks cool

[lofty pecan]

im thinking about getting undertale, but a lot of people online say "go into this game blind" so what is the game and how do i know i'll enjoy it?

[sleek quiver]

It’s more of an “story” game rather than gameplay

You ain’t slaying demons while dashing around with a sword, that’s for sure

[tall hornet]

It's a subversive rpg

A lot of people compared it to mother 2

It can get a little bit like DDLC but wayyyyyyy less edgy

[lofty pecan]

so is it like a walking sim game then?

[junior crown]

it got it share of RPG elements and puzzles, not exactly the walking sim type if to look at it. Don't think it's considered one, but it's def a heavy story game.

[dire condor]

No, it definitely requires a competent player to complete all of the routes.

It's 110% known for its story before its gameplay, but it is absolutely a game that challenges its players in every way.

[polar dragon]

Yeah don't overthink it

And go in blind

[lofty pecan]

alright sounds cool ill get it then

[polar dragon]

I didn't

I regreted it

[twin yarrow]

also, don't judge the game by some first impressions, they may not be true

whatever they are, when you'll get to the end of the game, your opinion about it may turn 180 degrees

or not.. but people say, it happens

it happened to me

[sleek quiver]

Witcher 3 story hits hard

[woven breach]

Oh yes

Yes it does

[sleek quiver]

I’ve played Thronebreaker before I get to finally play Witcher 3, so I know how hard the story will hit, but damn, it still hit hard

The “no choice is right” schtick really shows

[woven breach]

One thing tho

||bloody baron||

I've played the game around 3 times

And 2 times I picked the same choice

[sleek quiver]

I just got past that part of the story, pretty effed up, I must say

[woven breach]

Then I was like okay maybe I should ||let the kids eaten or something||

Saw the ending and was like

that's a better ending

I mean sure

||those kids' fate are... questionable but the baron and his daughter got some closure||

Somewhat

[sleek quiver]

What really got me was that these 3 sisters are portrayed as gods and savior to these lands but they are definitely not that

They are malevolent gods at best

[woven breach]

Yea

[fathom juniper]

god damn

i only just realized that kf2 is...
almost 80 gigs at this point

sweet jesus this game got THICC
i remember when it was a 14 gig download

[woven breach]

Well it got updates and extra content over the years

then we have cods

[fathom juniper]

it got A LOT of extra content

like - sure - i might've dunked on tripwire a bit in the past ||those goddamn dingus-pounders and robots ||
but all in all - they did a stellar job supporting this game over the years

i've been there since day 1 and wow
it's rare to see a dev updating a game so much and for so long

especially for such a small playerbase when compared to other games

so anyway i'm downloading it again just to take 4 screenshots
and then i'm gonna delete it again

[coral hawk]

I was never really a fan of undertale but I will say Toby Fox makes some of the best video game music

everything he's made just slaps

[lusty pendant]

Yeah I actually don't recommend doing undertale fully blind since it's set up so that if you ||dont get the "true" ending you have to basically play everything all over again||

music and characters still good though

[wraith cradle]

Now Toby Fox is basically cameo man for indie

You are playing an indie and suddenly you find one of his songs with his recognizable style

He's also not picky about his cameos. He has made songs both for YIIK and Omori

[woven breach]

ah YIIK

[wraith cradle]

YIIKes

[woven breach]

https://tenor.com/view/indeed-agree-dog-gif-10503129

[fathom juniper]

https://youtu.be/sPCxmFUmf50

i love this recent explosion of ultrakill memes

ultrameme

[hollow oak]

@fathom juniper I honestly don't know why

Ultrakill's just... That sort of game i guess?

People seem to know about it, it gets a very high review rating on steam and that's it

I do think the game is fun, and it's good... From there i only really have negatives with it

[fathom juniper]

really?

huh

[hollow oak]

Yeah, tbh

I played it, i had my fun

But the score system only really made me not want to replay it

[hollow oak]

@fathom juniper for real tho the game would be GREAT without its scores and rank shenanigans

[coral hawk]

The world ends with you 2's demo is pretty fun

The first twewy is one of my favorite games of all time so I'm excited to play the sequel

[polar dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/803180676664131604/858811028505886731/unknown.png

2/10 Done

ItB is a gud game

[fickle glen]

With Steam having its enormous summer sail, I'm asking for game recommendations.

Give me anything except RPGs, visual novels, or turn-based combat.

[polar dragon]

Risk of Rain 2?

[fickle glen]

I bought it during this sale but I've been too lazy to play it.

Have you ever had the following happen? There's a super popular, untouched game sitting in your library but you're just too lazy to play it because you know you'll need to invest 100 to 1,000+ hours to truly enjoy it but you're just not ready to commit that much time at this point...

That's the stage I'm stuck in right now.

/I'm not depressed.

//That said, thank you for the recommendation.

[polar dragon]

just do l4d then

0 investment needed

[fickle glen]

L4D?

[polar dragon]

online play is p chill

left 4 dead

[fickle glen]

Oh. I've heard of it. Never looked into it. Interesting.

I'll give that a shot.

[polar dragon]

its $2

get left 4 dead 2

[fickle glen]

Do I need to brush up on L4D 1 to understand what's happening in L4D 2?

[twin yarrow]

Nope

[polar dragon]

l4d2 includes l4d1

there is no need to buy l4d1, ever

[fickle glen]

I see.

[coral hawk]

Dandy ace

Very fun game like hades

[rancid token]

Hollow Knight is good

Shovel Knight too

[twin yarrow]

How many else knight games can we remember?

[rancid token]

Rocket Knight

[twin yarrow]

That's a name I haven't heard in centuries

[polar dragon]

Rocket League

Wait

[lofty pecan]

ngl if runs in this game were 20 mins instead of 40-50 mins long i would enjoy it almost as much as hades

thats the only problem with this game i have, otherwise the game itself is very fun

[coral hawk]

uuuh I haven't had a full run yet but it is challenging

you can't dash corners and gaps

and I take a lot of hits cause I try to lmao

[lofty pecan]

they updated it so that you can but the dash range is shorter than hades

also the enemies hits are very punishing, so it promotes a very safe playstyle unlike hades

[coral hawk]

It really does

but the card/subcard idea is so fun

I love that you can do some really stupid stuff lol

[polar dragon]

The card system also exists in Wizard of Legends

If you haven't heard

[coral hawk]

wizard of legend doesn't do it the same way though

wizard is super fun though

[lofty pecan]

the dandy ace card system is similar to transistor

[coral hawk]

I have liked the majority of roguelike(lites) that I've played

If you want an interesting take on roguelite games

School of magic prologue just had an update fixing a lot of stuff that was wrong with the first demo

when you start you get a choice of three spells. You can only take 1 but when you level the cards left in the pool level up and one is removed

so you have to decide if you want to risk getting a more powerful spell at the cost of it disappearing instead

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1384550/School_of_Magic_Prologue/

Steam

School of Magic Prologue

School of Magic Prologue is a free playable alpha demo of School of Magic.School of Magic combines the strategic Depths and replayability of the deckbuilding genre with the intense combat and atmosphere of an Isometric Action RPG.FULLFILL YOUR DREAMSYou have always wanted to be a Wizard, but a poor bloke like you couldn't afford the School of Ma...

▶ Play video

[lofty pecan]

how good is the combat?

[coral hawk]

um its very hit and run

movement is left mouse and primary spell is right mouse

so you have to kite around while playing

I will say since it is a free game rn its definitely worth trying out

[coral hawk]

Blade assault is one that recently came out and I feel like it has a lot of potential

[polar dragon]

Is that the one with the funny negative review?

[wraith cradle]

You know how little that narrows it down?

[polar dragon]

Lmao

[coral hawk]

oh yeah

it is

He's talking about the review I posted about "I don't like how this game makes you start over every run and beat the same bosses cause no one enjoys doing that its game design stuck in the 90's"

or something like that

[tall hornet]

Losing progress feels super bad until you get used to it

But you lose some sort of progress in any game

[coral hawk]

Found the review in an earlier comment

"It's a reall good game at some point, but it is a real bummer that you have to start all over after you lose a life. I mean, the developers didn't think people can get frustrated if we cannot continue from where we left after we lose a life? It's 2021, and you are using game mechanics from the 90s, come on! Yeah you can play the game and have fun, but after a few hours you don't want to play anymore when you realize you have to start the same levels all over again."

[acoustic jacinth]

news flash: player discovers the existence of rougelikes
discovers that they don't like rougelikes

[polar dragon]

Yeah. At least the reviewer realizes that they don't like roguelites. Good for them. Self discovery is good, I guess.

[coral hawk]

But yeah Fox if thats the review you were takling about yes that is blade assault

[polar dragon]

Yes

[stable kindle]

its a dumb comment because the reviewer doesnt understand why games in the 90s used the mechanics they did lol theyre just like "oh you start over, bad design to still use this in 2021 boo!" with zero critical thought

but, yknow, what can you expect from The Gamers(tm) these days, c'est la vie my friends

[polar dragon]

Yeah but expecting people to do research before writing Steam reviews is a bit too optimistic

This seems less egregious than others I have read

[stable kindle]

this is true, the amount of times ive seen people post about things they could have discovered themselves if they'd literally just opened their options menu is far too high

[coral hawk]

Like I respect that this man just put his whole booty on display with zero self concern is impressive

[tall hornet]

Indie can mean a lot of things these days

I heard they presented indie games at e3.... but that's way different from what I end up playing

Do you want 5 digit budget, 20 person team indie games

Or do you want 2 digit budget, 4 person team indie game

Or do you want no budget, 1 person indie game

https://bighandinsky.itch.io/forgetful-loop

This comes highly recommended by a friend of mine

There's accessibility features that allow you to slow the game now, so even if you can't do rts games it can still be a fun puzzle games

Itch io is a good website for finding lower budget passion projects

Most big game companies don't bother with it, so it's a lot more "indie", for lack of a better word

[wraith cradle]

That game was free with the last bundle

[tall hornet]

Yeah you might already own it

[lofty pecan]

wow i just checked the bundle again and realized celeste and baba is you was added thats cool

[polar dragon]

What bundle?

[broken smelt]

https://itch.io/b/861/queer-games-bundle-2021

This bundle :3

[fallen sky]

yeah! was thinking of buying it but... the price

[polar dragon]

Yeah...

I can do $20 and below

[fallen sky]

oh there's another version

[polar dragon]

Even for fewer games

[fallen sky]

https://itch.io/b/862/queer-games-bundle-2021-pay-what-you-can-edition

ta-da~

[broken smelt]

Ty

[lofty pecan]

Oh nvm i was talking about the palestenian bundle

[rich loom]

bbtag, if anyone plays it, is it worth getting? it's in my wishlist but im still on the fence bc i rlly only want it for carmine

[lofty pecan]

speaking of the palestenian bundle the art of this game https://monothetic.itch.io/beacon looks pretty damn good has anyone tried it out?

[dire saffron]

It’s very fun but just to let you know like 2/3 of the cast is dlc including carmine

I was lucky and got all but the 20$ dlc pack for the price of 1 pack when it was on sale

I played a bit of carmine actually and he’s really fun ngl

I’m a ruby main at heart tho

[mortal siren]

i still cant get used to sonic lack of momentum when u stop after playing sonic mania for the first time thanks to epic

[sleek quiver]

Doki Doki Literature Club is $13.50 on the Switch now, is it worth it?

Or should I get all 3 classic Doom games on the Switch? It’s $5 each

[woven breach]

Ddlc is free tho?

On steam

[broken smelt]

ddlc is free on steam

[sleek quiver]

Don’t have PC

Tbh, just thinking it would look good on my collection, even when I never played it before

[broken smelt]

ahh, then maybe? it'll probably come with the fan pack dlc but I'm not sure what's in that

[woven breach]

I'm just thinking how much of those 13 bucks are going to the dev

[sleek quiver]

Surely some will be

What do you mean? Interesting conspiracies to share?

[broken smelt]

70% assuming the 'standard' dev cut

[sleek quiver]

Store cut

That’s normal

Good or not, that’s not for me to discuss though

[woven breach]

The game is pretty short, although there are some replayability.

I don't think it's worth 13 bucks tho...

[sleek quiver]

When you put it that way, yeah

I mean, it’s free on Steam

How did they profit on Steam though? DLCs? How much of them?

[broken smelt]

it can run off a potato pc afaik

the fan pack dlc is how the solo dev profits off ddlc

that and the switch release

[sleek quiver]

What is it? Cosmetics?

[broken smelt]

I don't know, I just know it exists

[woven breach]

The fan pack consists
-DDLC official soundtrack
-wallpapers
-concept art

It says so on their website

[sleek quiver]

Wallpapers, you say?

I’m not a total stranger to DDLC but I know how ||dark|| it is lmao

I’m straying farther and farther away from god with each passing day, maybe I need to see a therapist one of these days lmao

[fervent gyro]

THPS 1+2 is available on Switch 🙂

[mystic wave]

personally i didn't have a problem with DDLC, though some time after playing it, i found some opinion finds it's handling of sensitive issues too... insensitive? depression triggers and such

[thorn tundra]

Wait idk if DDLC worth switch....

Not only is it free on steam

But you also cant mess with the files on switch

[coral hawk]

Well they did say its going to have a lot of new content

and i said the same thing about idk how it will work since you can't explore files on switch

[lethal drift]

I hated that stupid game

The only thing I liked was the art

[coral hawk]

I thought it was fun but it was a lil edgy

in the trying to hard to be edgy way lol

but it does make me interested in their next project

[lethal drift]

it was edgy schlock with no substance, poor characters, and pretty mediocre writing

[mystic wave]

yeah, it tries for shock factor. too short to develop characters or themes. had some fun with the shock factor though

[lethal drift]

it's fun the first time

[twin yarrow]

also, next level of 4th wall breaking with streamers

[mystic wave]

if anyone here thought the idea was interesting but was not executed well, then look at this. executed it better https://store.steampowered.com/app/1293820/YOU_and_ME_and_HER_A_Love_Story/

Steam

YOU and ME and HER: A Love Story

A visual novel that pushes the boundaries of the format in unique and stunning ways, YOU and ME and HER: A Love Story has to be played to be believed. When Shinichi decides to help the class outcast Aoi, he enlists the help of Miyuki, the most popular girl in school. But when romance enters the picture, the triangle becomes unstable and the futu...

Price

$20.99

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less shock, more psychological horror 🙂

[lethal drift]

I'm intrigued

oh it's by Nitro+. No wonder the art is so familiar

I looked at the pink haired and thought

Super Sonico

[mystic wave]

haha yeah

just looked up the writer. was involved in steins gate writing, but not main writer

[thorn tundra]

I didnt play DDLC but it was an interesting game for sure

Or a possible really successful marketing stunt

[lethal drift]

I played it for two hours and was just disappointed

[thorn tundra]

Either way it made peoppe very aware of who they are

Its game that went on shock value and really meta

With how it incorporated different programming languages as some kind of cryptography

Less of a visual novel

More of a puzzle game

I'd say

[lethal drift]

I can see that

[thorn tundra]

and the file manipulation thing is really big on the game

so I really dont know how they would incorporate that on the switch

[lethal drift]

we shall see

[bleak coral]

https://twitter.com/nibellion/status/1409522183853023238?s=21

Nibel (@Nibellion)

Sakurai confirms that the last fighter will be the last one, and will be announced/released this year #SmashBrosUltimate

Twitter · Jun 28, 2021, 2:40 PM

hes really done

good for him

[polar dragon]

Pyyyrrraaaaaa

[bleak coral]

literally the last character in Ultimate

crazy

[thorn tundra]

Cant wait for his next project

[bleak coral]

same

whatever his next chapter is im on board

[woven breach]

I don't play smash bros

but I hope it's not fortnite char

[bleak coral]

same

[woven breach]

but as someone that doesn't play smash bros

that'd be hilarious as hell

[bleak coral]

please do not do that

[coral hawk]

I have not cared who any of this dlc pack has been

[bleak coral]

Minecraft Steve though

[coral hawk]

and they aren't fun to me

so I'm hoping kazuya is fun to play to me or that last char will be good

[bleak coral]

kazuya will have one of the lowest playrates in Smash Bros

his barrier of entry is gonna be too high for most

[coral hawk]

I either want something that will be super fun or generate more salt than the ocean

I just love salt content whenever people get mad about stupid stuff it gives me life

[stable kindle]

smash bros complainers be like, how dare this game marketed to a wide audience not cater specifically to me

[bleak coral]

SMT V Protagonist

would be a cool addition and very funny

[coral hawk]

outside of a fire emblo I don't know what would create the most salt

[bleak coral]

pokemon?

maybe?

[polar dragon]

another link

[coral hawk]

Oh what about linkle

then you get that "grr women in video game. sjw ruin thing"

[polar dragon]

idk, pyra and mythra are quite popular imo 😳

[dire warren]

so, do you guys think it'll be a buff punch man, a swordsperson, or ike 2 a buff swordsperson

[polar dragon]

another FE character, swordman of course

[dire warren]

idk, ultimate really likes buff muscle characters
specifically ultimate, too, first it was just dk and now it's dk, incin, simon, richter, ryu, blond ryu, hat ryu, and weird hair ryu

ganon doesn't count, he's just a cooler mage

[bleak coral]

dont do the fighting game characters like that

[dire warren]

hey last i checked fighting game characters had variety

[bleak coral]

you're also completely discounting inkling, ridley, steve, pyra/mythra, joker, banjo, etc

[dire warren]

i was on abt the buff ones, are you saying inkling's buff?

[bleak coral]

it sounded to me like you were saying the entire new roster is buff characters

[dire warren]

/j

[bleak coral]

and yeah the fgc characters are buff because of course they are

they arent just ryu clones, kof and tekken are well respected fighting game series

[dire warren]

nah, i'm just saying we've had a huge spike in buff characters in the space of one game
like
it's not all we have, but we have gone from 1 to 8 very quickly

[bleak coral]

Its just a coincedence

im not gonna exclude castlevania from the game because of that

its castlevania

before this point smash had very few large characters as well (ie dk and dedede), so adding more like krool and ridley is absolutely justified

Unless I'm misinterpreting

[dire warren]

also the fighting games thing kinda feels like the fe treatment
there's so much character variety inside them but as an outsider all i see is the same trope and it's kinda hard to believe fe isn't just swordfighters, yunno?

[bleak coral]

there are 4 fighting game characters

there are 8 fire emblem characters

[dire warren]

and all 4 fighting characters are plain identical to an outsider

[bleak coral]

I understand what that means from the outside, but when you look closer at each one it makes more sense

[rich loom]

yeah, it sucks that most of the cast is uhh dlc, but ppl seems to enjoy it so I'll get it. online matches might suck tho, I'm getting it on switch ( to get all the dlcs at once as a bundle ) and it's never had the best online. carm and hyde have been my mains for a while but the blazblue charas 👁👁

[bleak coral]

they all fall under a similar archetype

Which is perfectly fine

[dire warren]

yeah ig, i just kinda don't like it

[bleak coral]

i understand

each one has a very important reason for being there and all of them are icons

Tekken 7 is one of the biggest fighting games in the world, KoF literally lead to the creation of Smash, and SF is SF

[dire warren]

smash is just all abt variety and god himself wouldn't convince me ryu and kazuya aren't basically twins
but i just probably don't know enough

[bleak coral]

I dont play traditional fighters but I respect the games they come from and their importance

[dire warren]

yeah, like, if the fans are happy i won't complain loudly

[bleak coral]

The difference is in playstyle, not necessarily design

[dire saffron]

Ooo I have it on switch :3 we should play sometime if you do plan on getting it. Bbtag is my first traditional fighting game ngl so I have fun with it. Ruby and es are my mains and I can play ragna and carmine a bit, I’m wanting to get the last dlc for adachi and susano’o tho

[bleak coral]

bbtag seems fun

isnt there a tank in that game

like a literal playable tank

[rich loom]

yyyup, forgot his name tho

[bleak coral]

something about seeing anime characters paired up with a tank is hilarious

[rich loom]

the arguably most normal part of the bbtag cast are the persona characters

[coral hawk]

It was neat seeing the rwby characters in there

[bleak coral]

Chie Persona 4 + Blitztank, an iconic duo

[dire saffron]

Blitztank or smth

[coral hawk]

oh man imagine a League of legends character gets in as last dlc for smash

I'd laugh

[bleak coral]

LMAO

[dire saffron]

Adachi and tank are actually a busted team considering adachi’s assist is ziodyne

[rich loom]

the team mechanics will take some getting used to. unist and BB are more traditional and I'm so used to playing single characters at a time

heard the team's can get RLLY busted tho

[dire saffron]

Yeaaa iirc I’ve been in a few online games where I literally couldn’t block since the assist would cover front and I just get crossed or hit with high/low

Then there’s the times I crouch to block low and still get hit by low somehow

[thorn tundra]

anime and tag team fighters are too complicated for my little brain

[dire saffron]

Bbtag is one of the more simple

[rich loom]

o o f, that's always annoying, I'd get salty fast lol

[thorn tundra]

I like pokken though

[dire saffron]

The most complex Input you have is quarter circles

[thorn tundra]

I really hate the dragon punch input

its still hard even with keyboard/hitbox layout

[dire saffron]

Yea and I hate fighting hilda, it’s kinda impossible to approach since her attacks are ranged and massive and gives her lots of time to react

[thorn tundra]

but not really just the input anime fighters are so combo heavy and momentum heavy its honestly too much for me

[rich loom]

yeah, merkava has the same complaint, his reach for certain moves can mess up a good combo against him if he gets you. at least from me playing unist 😅

[thorn tundra]

like... you really have to memorize the combo of everyone just so you know when are the mixups/resets opportunities

[dire saffron]

Yea, lots of learning how the opponent plays them and being able to punish and adapt as well as understanding framedata and matchups

But that’s meta

I play pseudo meta like I learn combos and stuff but I don’t look at framedata or matchups

[thorn tundra]

whenever I watch skullgirls tournaments I never understand whats happening

[dire saffron]

Lol I wanna get into skullgirls

Seems really fun

[thorn tundra]

I just react whenever someone actually turn the tide

idk how they did it

but it happened

the "heavy" attacks are too fast for me I never see it

[polar dragon]

i dont play fighting games but i like watching them

[bleak coral]

same

[polar dragon]

don't understand the commentary but who cares

attack goes brrr

[lofty pecan]

ill probably get into fighting games once i get a controller

quarter circles too tough on kbm

[polar dragon]

how do even do quarter circle on kbm

or dpad, for that matter?

just down forward?

[lofty pecan]

for skullgirls it was like sa a

i couldnt even get past the tutorial so 🤷‍♂️

[dire condor]

Based on the 30 minutes or so someone tried to teach me FighterZ, I can do movement on WASD easily enough, but trying to fightstick the buttons threw me off.

Meanwhile LMHS make sense as face buttons on a controller, but I couldn't get comfortable with movement and I kept goofing the quarter circles.

[bleak coral]

dont people use numpad if they're playing on keyboard?

or is that just a naming convention

[rich loom]

I keep goofing quarter circles no matter what lol

[dire condor]

Naming convention.

5 is neutral/no direction, 1-9 are a up, down, left, right, and the other four combinations therein.

I had my LMHS set to I think 1-2-3-Enter.

[mystic wave]

https://tenor.com/view/hokutonoken-punch-tank-kick-boom-gif-5265096

[twin yarrow]

Dark souls boss fights be like

[polar dragon]

so frame advantage in fighting games are like speed/priority in Pokemon

and you can predict/counter accordingly but the decision making process is in real time and quick

oh wait I just described turn based vs real time game

lmao

[twin yarrow]

That's basically how one makes decisions in real life

[polar dragon]

yeah but i guess i was trying to draw some analogy between frame advantage and speed/priority in pokemon