For sure
#video-games
toxic cosmos
hardy onyx
I think I have TTS already
polar dragon
TTS is awesome yeah. My friends and I do weekly Pandemic stuff.
mellow linden
sgg weekly TTS? 😳
broken smelt
Tble top sim is incredible :3
mellow linden
i bought it during the sale but honestly i have nobody to play with 😅
toxic cosmos
Ooooh sgg weekly tts would be fantastic
lunar crypt
Pandemic is fun! 
toxic cosmos
Can y’all petition a tts room to Caitlin? Lol
lunar crypt
i bought it during the sale but honestly i have nobody to play with 😅
We'll snatch you and shove games to your face 
toxic cosmos
For sure!
polar dragon
If someone organizes it I would join, probably start as a group before making it a sgg thing imo
we don't know how committed people are
toxic cosmos
True
hardy onyx
We'll snatch you and shove games to your face <:blobsmirk:396521731185180684>
Sounds aggressive 
toxic cosmos
Hahaha
lunar crypt
I have so many games to recommend on TTS. I literally show radish a new one everytime we play TTS and he's like "when are we playing that one we played before again?"
toxic cosmos
True story
hardy onyx
Never
toxic cosmos
Still have wingspan in the back of my mind
hardy onyx
I've heard good things about wingspan
polar dragon
do you do Betrayal? 😳
toxic cosmos
It’s fun wight, I played it once lol
hardy onyx
There's a digital version too, isn't there?
polar dragon
also "available" on TTS
lunar crypt
There's a digital version too, isn't there?
Yep. The digital version has animations
polar dragon
Also Codenames
toxic cosmos
And sounds and stuff
polar dragon
100% my favorite party game
lunar crypt
do you do Betrayal? 😳
I've played Betrayal with friends before. It was chaotic but hilarious 
mellow linden
we can't weekly tts here anyways, there's no voice room-
hardy onyx
I'd be down for games sometime, pending time/availability
toxic cosmos
I’m down to try it sometime next week after Thursday lol
polar dragon
just make a makeshift groupchat and invite people. gauge interest
lunar crypt
I've played Wingspan with radish on TTS. The mod is good and has the expansions but you still have to do stuff manually.
mellow linden
though if we want to, i could probably do it on the weekends (after this week)
polar dragon
I'm available basically anytime after next week.
lunar crypt
Yayz!
toxic cosmos
Now.. where do we check in
broken smelt
Good question 
lunar crypt
Group DM is a nice start like the doggo said 
broken smelt
Tis a good idea 
toxic cosmos
Sounds good
hardy onyx
lunar crypt
It can only hold up to 10 people but if more want to join, the interest will have risen 😄
toxic cosmos
For sure
polar dragon
let's start small, keep expectations in check.
I have been in groups that die within 3 days 😦
lunar crypt
I meaaaan, I'm kidnapping radish anyways
toxic cosmos
Mmm that’s rough
lunar crypt
I miss my veggie 
polar dragon
lul
polar dragon
anyway, i'll ping people in this convo in 2 weeks if y'all are still interested. or maybe i'll remind Onyx to do that 😄
toxic cosmos
So.. ping me whenever heh
hardy onyx
So.. ping me whenever heh
Same
lunar crypt
Heavy breathing
toxic cosmos
It’s happening! Woo
stable kindle
toxic cosmos
Wanna join? ^^
mellow linden
So.. ping me whenever heh
me 2
toxic cosmos
I might make the dm group tomorrow
stable kindle
don't own tts so that would be a negative
toxic cosmos
Oow 
alright
broken smelt
toxic cosmos
All good, maybe for a different game
polar dragon
rip. my friend had a spare copy but it's gone now
toxic cosmos
Yall member tatz
stable kindle
i don't really play multiplayer type stuff anymore
polar dragon
do you play League?
toxic cosmos
Fair enough tatz
stable kindle
do you play League?
no I'm pure >:3c
polar dragon
uh huh
toxic cosmos
Fun with friends, horrible solo
lunar crypt
MOBAs release my inner 
stable kindle
I don't like moba style gameplay LOL but man. sometimes. sometimes. wistfully looks at junglers. oh to be an eve main.
but I shall not
toxic cosmos
I don’t know how you do it peach
lunar crypt
For your own sake and sanity, don't 😄
toxic cosmos
You must have iron skin
polar dragon
Peach plays HotS
lunar crypt
And SMITE
toxic cosmos
And smite
polar dragon
dang
stable kindle
peach plays --yeah
polar dragon
I have a love hate relationship with League
stable kindle
wistfully looks at ares
lunar crypt
I post screenshots of my matches sometimes, particularly when I hard carry as Aphrodite even if we don't win because my back
polar dragon
wistfully looks at ares
Have you heard of this game called Hades?
stable kindle
I have not, no!
polar dragon
It won GOTY recently
stable kindle
canon hypnos zag interaction just then yall
toxic cosmos
You mean Fenyx Rising? 
polar dragon
Anyway, this g*mer gonna take a shower and then go to sleep.
hardy onyx
Enjoy sleep, Fox!
toxic cosmos
Gn!
polar dragon
night
hardy onyx
Night, radish!
lunar crypt
Sweet dreams 
broken smelt
Ni ni Radish 
toxic cosmos
Cya you beautiful peeps
carmine moth
league
zealous fossil
Hades
urban stone
Zeus
mortal siren
drugs
eager hamlet
God I still cant believe they got David Mitchell of all people as a voice actor for Disco Elysium
floral warren
I'm still mad for why would SquareEnix make a Just cause mobile
Like I played JC3 and it was the best first games I've played on PS4 (alongside MGSV and Infamous SSon + FLight) but they made JC4 so serious with strategy.
wraith cradle
How many words of dialogue DE even has?
eager hamlet
Over a million
wraith cradle
Discounting the Narrator?
eager hamlet
Probably not?
Thats just what they said on twitter when someone asked how many words the game has
violet ingot
So, I'm not mad that Hades didn't win goty...just disappointed.
I am, however, furious that tlou2 won. that don't add up.
orchid violet
violet ingot
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/607348937241919500/786964688205774858/unknown.png?width=273&height=677
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Logan I'm so sorry.
I'm not saying this was blatantly bought, buuuut
severe fulcrum
can someone link me the orchestral out of tartarus played at the GOTY award
I just wanna hear it
one more time
wraith cradle
It's funny. The goty is being blasted from both sides of the aisle
violet ingot
This is for you Darren Korb 🏆
floral warren
It's funny. The goty is being blasted from both sides of the aisle
May you enlighten more?
They're getting hate from Tlou2 fans and anti tlou2 fans too?
violet ingot
May you enlighten more?
They're getting hate from Tlou2 fans and anti tlou2 fans...
As I understand it, the game is still being peppered with whiny complaints about "forced diversity"
which has the fans smug about what they think is some kind of win to show the haters
i understand tlou2 to have been an awful game that was mostly just a fruitless exercise in misery for the gay and trans characters in it which is what most of its buzz was in my circles.
floral warren
As I understand it, the game is still being peppered with whiny complaints about...
If i'm correct, the LGBTQ+ community thinks the game has force implemented the elements of their community in order to make the game popular?
violet ingot
roughly so, yes. it definitely did that.
wraith cradle
There is the fact the game kinda low-key glorifies torture. Which is a pet peeve of mine even if it's probably secondary to the other issues
violet ingot
the four big rules you don't break with your lgbt characters if you want that sweet sweet gay cash are none of the following: dead gay, villain gay, unimportant background gay, and miserable gay.
wraith cradle
That rule is self-defeating
Specially on an post-apocalyptic story where everyone is miserable by default
violet ingot
I wouldn't say so. Misery gay is less common than dead gay but it still matters to your audience if they find that the 'rep' you handed them is fruitlessly traumatic and beating the characters down. post-apocalyptic stories are no exception, especially as those are typically real big on the 'hope' angle.
wraith cradle
What if a good gay protagonist sacrifices themselves to save the world?
violet ingot
depends on the presentation. if a viewer finds it tastes bad because the gay protagonist, say, had nothing to live for (bad) versus having a life they enjoy but giving it up for the greater good ( 👍 )
wraith cradle
I honestly think if depends of the context
One of the most iconic gay characters in Media in an anti-Villain that dies almost at the end of the story
violet ingot
oh, definitely. that's the case across the board.
dead gay looks bad because the gay tends to die first or, worse, is the only casualty among a surviving straight cast. it's way less tolerated, though, because we're mostly just straight-up tired of seeing ourselves die over and over.
wraith cradle
The Character is Omar Little by the way
violet ingot
more and more producers and developers are turning to the lgbt audience because they pay well, but we're not stupid, we can see when it's hackneyed or thrown in to try and get the clout and generate the accolades without actually wanting to help.
voltron was a BIG example of that (and incidentally, one that broke all four rules).
not that i watched voltron. i'm too sexy for that.
Hades is a shining example of how to include and bond with an lgbt audience. case in point: every inch of it.
violet ingot
yeah he always dies but he also always lives. ♟️ 💥
twin yarrow
Hades is a brilliant example. It's not forced, every character feels live, natural and unique. i haven't heard a single complaint about different genders presented in the story
i don't even know if i heard many bad opinions about game in general..
just "it's ok, but not my type"
also Than made me question my heterosexuality as well
in big games, however, sometimes certain type of characters feel off, like they were added in the last moment just to please certain part of audience
"look, we are good, we make representation"
near birch
~~also Than made me question my heterosexuality as well~~
Haha definitely haven’t been there before, nope couldn’t be me
twin yarrow
and that not only doesn't help reaching understanding, it can even make worse for people.. and induce more hatred towards that certain group of people
representation is important, but it better be in good stories
wraith cradle
Hades is a brilliant example. It's not forced, every character feels live, natur...
Which is Ironic because Achilles and Patroclus are technically dead
I actually have ONE criticism about representation on Hades
It's a small detail but it irks me
Eurydice speaking voice is clearly made by a black VA, so it feels a bit grating when the singing is then made by a clearly white woman
wraith cradle
~~also Than made me question my heterosexuality as well~~
It would have happened to me too, If he didn't look so much as Edgeworth
pseudo gate
someone recommend me nier automata. I google search it and someone from reddit said this "Came for the thighs, stayed for the cries."
near birch
The fanservice is a bit much for me but god is the narrative there well-done
wraith cradle
And the Dialogue
pseudo gate
ok i saw lots of people including you two complimenting on the story. ok that is enough for me to try that game out
wraith cradle
Although to be frank the fanservice drops off completely in the second half of the game
When it gets serious
pseudo gate
i love some sad story
wraith cradle
Was thinking about Adam and Eve
dire condor
that would be Adam and Eve then
dire condor
anyways I didn't even notice any "forced" fanservixe
you kinda have to bring it about yourself
maybe thats because im gay but idk
warm crag
anyways I didn't even notice any "forced" fanservixe
wait, what game y'all talking about?
wraith cradle
The one forced fanservice is when you Self destruct yourself, leaving your clothes tattered
dire condor
nier automata
warm crag
aaah
idk if nier is forced fan service... 🧐 I mean, there is 2B, but what would you expect? also, the clothes looks cool, so...
¯_(ツ)_/¯
but I never played it, so maybe I'm saying something dumb
twin yarrow
idk, self-destructing is optional, so, i dunno
dire condor
anyways the game controls like a dream, looks gorgeous, has one of the best stories of any game I've played, and will absolutely make you cry during the last couple endings
I'm pretty sure you have to self destruct at one point
twin yarrow
i can only remember several plot cases, but it's different
and doesn't lead to appearance change
pseudo gate
my friend just said nier makes her cry
dire condor
sad robot game
pseudo gate
damn. the only game i cried so far is TLOU 2... i wanna try nier now
warm crag
nier looks like a fun game, but my computer is not good enough and its also very expensive
brisk gate
ah yes I'm very excited for the remake too, the original is among my top 5 games of all time
dire condor
it's my #3
warm crag
damn. the only game i cried so far is TLOU 2... i wanna try nier now
the game I cried with was pokepark 2...
wraith cradle
There are a few games that made me cry this year
pseudo gate
there's a remake coming? but it is a recent game
warm crag
I never cried playing a game, but for some reason pokepark 2 managed to make me cry 
dire condor
nier:a and nitw got me
warm crag
and Ive played breath of the wild, so that is weird
twin yarrow
i believe, it's a remake of other games in the series
warm crag
nier:a and nitw got me
I'm assuming "nitw" is night in the woods?
twin yarrow
most of them were famous only in Japan
dire condor
yeah
warm crag
aaah, Ive heard of it, but it never caught my interest
but I should give it a chance, anyway
twin yarrow
it's worth checking out
especially for people who are about to meet identity crisis after their 20s
warm crag
identity crisis?
near birch
Night in the Woods is real good
twin yarrow
like.. when they don't know what to do with life
when everything feels ruined, and life is coming to an end.. interesting life, that is
near birch
wait that’s when it’s supposed to happen?
warm crag
like.. when they don't know what to do with life
...so youre telling me my whole life is an identity crisis?
wraith cradle
Let me see
twin yarrow
um
dire condor
at the end of everything, hold on to anything
wraith cradle
Games that made cry this year: INMOST, Lost Ember, Evan's Remains and RiME
near birch
I need to play RiME for myself
forest stirrup
Not the whole story, but a big part of nitw tackles concepts of struggling with personal life purpose, the passage of time and how it affects relationships, etc
I should replay nitw tbh, it is real good
warm crag
is it a long game?
near birch
It does a fantastic job with mental health stuff imo
It was like 12-15 hours for me, depends on how much you want to do outside of the main plot
warm crag
ah, fair
near birch
It’s not short but it doesn’t overstay its welcome
sharp raft
I saw nitw get compared favorably with life is strange
forest stirrup
You can also kinda choose which characters to spend time with, it's neat
near birch
Life is Strange, also solid
wraith cradle
RiMe isn't about Mental Health
twin yarrow
well, i played the game in the release.. i was in depression, taking pills, after certain problems in life and news about that our suburban house can be destroyed due to highway construction.. So.. it was sorta that feeling, like, i'm 27, no friends, no decent job, no future, and then i've stumbled upon NITW.. and it somehow felt.. like the game helped me gain hope, that someday it will be okay
people call it sad, well it is
but it's also helped to make it through tough times
wraith cradle
Oh ok
twin yarrow
now, after even tougher times, idk, maybe it wouldn't so much
and with knowledge what happened to one of devs
warm crag
I think that the game that helped me the most was celeste and crypt of the necrodancer 🧐
near birch
Celeste is such a good game
warm crag
celeste helped me with feeling better about myself and necrodancer helped me realise that there are some people that I should let go
twin yarrow
i think, one of the best platformers of last years
warm crag
Celeste is such a good game
IT IS!!!
forest stirrup
[Confronting myself plays in my head] ah, emotions
near birch
I have Necrodancer on my list of games to get to
near birch
I also still really love Wandersong
Which is extremely wholesome but still very real with the feels
warm crag
also, Celeste has suuuuuch a great soundtrack!!! it literally give me chills everytime I listen bc its soooo great!
warm crag
I also still really love Wandersong
hm... never heard of it
near birch
It’s real good
near birch
Yep
Also a very good one
(In case you hadn’t noticed, good indie games ft. feels is basically my brand)
dire condor
a short hike is so good
twin yarrow
interesting, how most good indie games advices you can only get from other people, since not every one of them has huge promotion
rustic falcon
i gotta finish that game, im so good at starting games and never finishing them but its so charming
twin yarrow
me and my friend recently stopped to finish games.. sometimes it can be to tough to let go the world you liked
or when you know that the ending will make you emotionally exhausted
warm crag
i gotta finish that game, im so good at starting games and never finishing them ...
ahaha you 2? damn, so I'm not the only one who never finishes a game? 😅
twin yarrow
i've never got to the end of Nier:A bc of that.. the whole game was already sad and depressing, and near the end, when ||they gave you that choice of 2 options, with obvious outcome||, i was like, "ok, that's enough for now, i see where it is going"
warm crag
"ima play this tomorrow" last played: 2 months ago
twin yarrow
warm crag
I never finished hollow knight, so its not about the game being bad or something
bc hollow knight is SO pretty
its just
idk 😅
rustic falcon
nier:a is worth finishing if youve gotten that far imo, dont give up there! i actually 100%ed that game
low helm
Hollow Knight 
twin yarrow
like, you know that type of games.. when at the certain point you are given a hint "if you have some unfinished business somewhere, maybe it's a time to do it? cause who knows what will we meet ahead?"
and i'm like "I'M NOT FINISHED LIVING IN THIS WORLD PEACEFULLY, LET ME DO IT PLEASE"
junior crown
I can understand with Hollow Knight once I died enough in the place I had too much backtracking I just kind of gave up, plus it was super harder with me being dumb with navigation.
wraith cradle
Ori 2 15 euros let't go
twin yarrow
pog
quasi sentinel
Imo the first ori is designed better. But the second probably looks and plays better/more easily
wraith cradle
15 euros are 15 euros
quasi sentinel
It's also way easier in general imo
Yeah it's still a good game
But I think I prefer to the first one
twin yarrow
first one is hard, yes, but not too hard, imo
wraith cradle
God, LN2 is just 2 months away
quasi sentinel
Well I did both on no death, and Ori 1 despite being shorter took a lot more time
rancid token
Without going too far into it, it's a physics-based space exploration game where you putt around in your little ship in this little star system to solve a big mystery
It's entirely driven by player curiosity and learning rather than mechanics
rancid token
Yes, The Outer Worlds is the Obsidian RPG
wraith cradle
Annapurna is quickly becoming one of my favourite publishers
All they publish is top-notch
rancid token
They're very good for what I'm starting to call Emotional games
Because terms like Walking Sim and whatever have so much negative baggage attached to them
quasi sentinel
It shouldn't have though, it's a very precise descriptor
Emotional games could be pretty much anything you play lol
Even when you rage at your teammates in your favorite moba xD
rancid token
True, which is part of the shame of it
rancid token
It's going to be a while before you can call something a Walking Sim and have it not come off as feeling derogatory in some manner
forest storm
like the black hole
quasi sentinel
Honestly just call them minimalist exploration games
forest storm
isnt the 40h game about world extinction the walking sim
idk how that game was calles
called*
junior crown
Exploration Experience? I dunno that seems like an okayish term to call games which main objective is to go around pretty much, to go with story-focused game tag.
rancid token
Well, to me, with stuff like, say Gone Home, and their new one that got announced last night where the name escapes me, and the Seasons one, they're very clearly intended with the primary focus of creating that emotional bond with the player
But It Not Perfect System, just like genre nomenclature in general
wraith cradle
12 minutes?
Wasn't Jim Sterling who coined the term? Admittedly he did it when the genre was full of Schlock
forest storm
sorry if this is about hades but i have to ask,should i get clouded judgement or static discharge
quasi sentinel
No I don't think he did at least
wraith cradle
In fact the one company who 'created' the genre mostly couldn't live up to their hype
rancid token
sorry if this is about hades but i have to ask,should i get clouded judgement or...
You might want to ask in #h1-builds-and-combat
Video game genres are mostly nonsense anyway
wraith cradle
To be Honest the Stanley Parable despite being one of the first WS. It's one of the bests
wraith cradle
Video game genres are mostly nonsense anyway
Kinda Disagree
rancid token
Roguelike/lite in particular is a fun one
wraith cradle
Genre conventions are important
But sincerely I'm not in the mood to argue so let's just agree to disagree
rancid token
I mean sure, I'm also not willing to argue on that because it's just my opinion
wraith cradle
Yeah. We would gonna talk in circles not ceding an inch
junior crown
Rogue-like or Rogue-lite as a genre when comes to mind seems like it was coined back then and when looked back, honestly does anyone know how to properly describe the genre in a term without missing out the fact each take in the genre is very much different in its own way.
wraith cradle
As it's a very subjective thing
rancid token
Right, exactly
forest storm
do u guys know some good games?
wraith cradle
The difference between Like and Lite is that Lite gives you some progression between runs
And Like is hard reset after each death
rancid token
Meanwhile I'm still stuck on whether I prefer Character Action Game or Spectacle Fighter
wraith cradle
do u guys know some good games?
Lots, so Any genre specific?
forest storm
idk
junior crown
yeah, but I am more about it being named after a game and not having its own sort of name.
wraith cradle
Souls-Like then must put you on a frenzy xd
rancid token
Do you have any particular system or console in mind?
sharp raft
There are people with a really strict interpretation of what a roguelike is
rustic falcon
pathologic 2 
forest storm
i have mac and xbox
sharp raft
While for others permadeath and a randomly generated dungeon is enough to qualify
rancid token
Hmm, Mac makes that tricky, but if you have an Xbox One I would honestly recommend spending the money on Game Pass
It's a ludicrously good deal
forest storm
i was considering dead cells
junior crown
yeah that's true
rustic falcon
oh maybe not pathologic 2 then, i heard the xbox port is not that good.
rancid token
Dead Cells is good
junior crown
oh man yeah see. I am rogue-like/lite person and I am stuck in this sense that I have lost my mind to thinking "maybe some games with random generated stuff are rogue-likes/rogue-lites".
like I am at brick of thinking in some sense, the hardest difficulty of Darkwood is a rogue-like.
wraith cradle
For me a Roguelite is a genre where you are put into a unwinnable situation and you are forced to die and repeat so you can become better and get better upgrades to make an impossible situation manageable
rancid token
To me, the important conventions of the genre (at this point in time) are procedural generation and permadeath
Which is interesting, because some of the modern games that ape Rogue's actual playstyle... don't have those
Or at least, don't default to those
sharp raft
Progression that carries over between runs makes it a roguelite but meta progression isn’t necessarily bad
junior crown
Come to think of it, if you remove save files from any game, they basically become a linear rogue-like.
rancid token
Depending on whether you mark procedural generation as an important hallmark of the genre, of course
junior crown
SCP: SL is just a multiplayer rogue-like.
dire condor
It is, isn't it? That's the thing that ties them together and sets the genre apart.
If the layout and all the contents of the Underworld doesn't change, Hades isn't a roguelite anymore, just a hack'n'slash.
dire condor
Steel Soul doesn't turn Hollow Knight into a roguelite.
Just makes it way harder.
If I know I'm always getting a Hammer on Chamber 6 the metagame changes.
DMC's Bloody Palace isn't a roguelite minigame, either, even though dying sends you back to the first floor.
rancid cove
torpid badge
https://twitter.com/GaoRush/status/1337463964696014852
im crying omg
rancid cove
yea,
supple fulcrum
Just walked away from CyberPunk 2077 after a little over an hour. Holy cow do a bad AAA game garbage controls make me angry. They spent all that time and money and couldn’t match Oblivion’s level of UI clarity!
rancid token
It is, isn't it? That's *the thing* that ties them together and sets the genre a...
I agree completely, but I've been in discussions with some people in different server that point out that games like Tales of Maj'eyal play identically to Rogue, but aren't procedurally generated or have permadeath by default
It's fascinating how nomenclature evolves
simple canopy
Just walked away from CyberPunk 2077 after a little over an hour. Holy cow do a ...
Im literally going to refund Cyberpunk on steam
not only the UI and controls but the actual character movement physics are also so bad
rancid token
rancid cove
🍿
supple fulcrum
Im literally going to refund Cyberpunk on steam
I don’t blame you at all! I’ve played shooters and RPGs before but I cannot for the life of me figure out what the &$& this game wants me to press.
rancid token
Play Bugsnax y'all
simple canopy
i love shooters and rpgs but cyberpunk is just Not It imo
rancid cove
im so glad to hear that cyberjunk is, in fact, a bad game
rancid token
I mean, I'm not, because people who were excited for it are coming away disappointed
simple canopy
I don’t blame you at all! I’ve played shooters and RPGs before but I cannot for ...
not only are the controls bad and obscure but so many buttons also trigger the same thing in different variations (ie crouch toggle vs crouch hold)
supple fulcrum
I was really turned off by how it was advertised. My partner got it and wanted me to try. If your super AAA game has a long time gamer honestly thinking they’d rather go cook for a bunch of animated animal spirits, you mess up big time.
“Spiritfarer” is fun, btw.
rancid token
Well that's not fair, Spiritfarer is charming as hell
simple canopy
or maybe Cyberpunk was the best marketing move for Spiritfarer ever in that case
rancid cove
the longest con
polar dragon
2077 will eventually be good, aka when it goes on sale
supple fulcrum
And I get frustrated with controls easily. The first time I played DA Inquisition was a learning curve, but it was my first DA game and I was able to get it. CP77 is just a massive fail.
polar dragon
pick it up then for easy value
supple fulcrum
You should be able to tell when you character is stealthed! Elder Scrolls made a standard for that decades ago - use it instead of weird end of vision going dark in your already dark game!
rancid token
Cyberpunk lost me very early since I don't have any good prior experience with Reddit's Golden Child CDPR, but they then lost me further between their decisions promoting the game, as well as the whole flashing lights debacle
polar dragon
Witcher 3 is definitely worth checking out.
rancid token
I've heard, but I don't want to give them money for it
rancid token
I'll pick it up used for my PS4 along with RDR2
polar dragon
yeah fair
stable kindle
lol tbh there was genuinely no way for cyberpunk to live up to the massive hype around it
supple fulcrum
The Witcher didn’t work for me because of how that game treats female people. I know that’s not as much of an issue for some, but for me it was a no go.
supple fulcrum
lol tbh there was genuinely no way for cyberpunk to live up to the massive hype ...
Right? But they are failing HARD.
polar dragon
lol tbh there was genuinely no way for cyberpunk to live up to the massive hype ...
nope. but it will be an ok game, worth picking on sale/ when the bugs are ironed out. that's my take.
rancid token
I thought W2 played like garbage, honestly
stable kindle
it's passable, but it's going to be a game most people forget about months down the road
rancid cove
having played all 3 witcher games (before The Unpleasantness about cdpr went public): yeah the first two are nearly unplayable
supple fulcrum
I really, really hope ES6 will be good. My long single player RPG loving heart can’t take much more of this.
polar dragon
But they are failing HARD.
From what I read online, the game content is fine, just the massive amount of bugs, really.
rancid cove
I really, really hope ES6 will be good. My long single player RPG loving heart c...
have u tried xenoblade chronicles 2
polar dragon
My friends who had CBP is having a blast
sharp raft
Yeah, the romance cards in the first Witcher was bad taste
dire condor
I'm sure you've tried it, but Pillars of Eternity with everything is free on the Epic Games Store until the 17th.
wraith cradle
God, Bugsnax got creepy at the end
rancid token
I don't have any faith in Bethesda to put out a functional product, personally
Especially if they don't ditch that dinosaur of a game engine
supple fulcrum
I don't have any faith in Bethesda to put out a functional product, personally
Yeah... they’ve been lost along with BioWare.
dire condor
Also, it's very much a port of a console game but I think it was a very good port, Horizon Zero Dawn is a little more expensive but also very good.
wraith cradle
Who knows maybe the new owners hire better talent and throw Howard down a mountain
junior crown
God, Bugsnax got creepy at the end
||Kero Kero's song was a big foreshadowing.||
rancid cove
at least andromeda apparently ended up p good
rancid token
Andromeda was Not Great, honestly
supple fulcrum
have u tried xenoblade chronicles 2
No, but I’ll look into it.
rancid token
I couldn't bring myself to care about any of the characters
dire condor
Andromeda wasn't very good.
rancid token
The gameplay was neat in spots
dire condor
Technically like a 7 or 8 out of 10.
supple fulcrum
I don’t know why the single player story giants don’t just stick to what they are good at.
rancid token
I liked the Shield power
rancid cove
not very good, no, but would you call it worse than skyrim?
wraith cradle
The day we get a Xenogears remake is the day I go back to church
dire condor
But the story and characters weren't there.
rancid token
I would
dire condor
Yeah, same.
As a hater of ES and lover of ME, Skyrim was the better game before mods/additions.
And you can make Skyrim way better.
rancid cove
well that's. depressing
rancid token
I hope Mass Effect Will Return doesn't continue with the characters from the Shepherd trilogy
wraith cradle
Skyrim would be 10x better if the Civil war plot was the main plot
rancid token
Except maybe in supporting parts
dire condor
That was definitely Liara in it.
rancid token
Was it?
rancid cove
playable wrex or riot tbh
dire condor
As long as we don't play as Liara.
wraith cradle
There is a moment in ME3 that brings me a tear to the eye
dire condor
I think you could make a very good First Contact War game.
wraith cradle
The fact they got Buzz Aldrin to do the final voiceover
rancid token
ME3 only really stumbled at the end and also every scene with Kai Leng
junior crown
I maybe should try finally play through ME once that trilogy thing comes out. I never really did get to play it properly.
rancid token
The individual character beats in 3 are incredible
dire condor
ME3 had weak plot throughout, but that's because 2 didn't set it up properly.
wraith cradle
Kai Leng was a sonic character in a Mass Effect game
rancid token
Ironically, despite 2 having little bearing on the rest of the series, I think it's the best of the three
dire condor
Not that there weren't good moments.
rancid token
The final mission is incredible
dire condor
Yeah, I think so, too.
rancid cove
tbh i wish i cared about anyone else even half as much as i care about wrex and legion
rancid token
It just has no effect on 1 or 3 lol
dire condor
ME1 has its issues with its very old and sometimes frankly bad gameplay, but the run on the Citadel Tower in 1 was better for me than the Suicide Mission.
Sovereign on top of the tower the entire time, the scale of it, blew me away.
wraith cradle
||Mordin death made cry a lot back in the day||
dire condor
The SM was a little too set-piecey.
dire condor
||Mordin death made cry a lot back in the day||
That one hurt. That one hurt so much.
rancid token
But yeah I'd rather see a game build off of whatever ending to 3 they choose as canon and have nothing to do with Shepherd's crew
rancid cove
"maybe a girl."
think about how much more krogan girls are worth than boys, at that point
dire condor
I don't think they're gonna follow Shepard's legacy that hard.
wraith cradle
'I am the very model of a modern Major-General
I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral'
rancid token
I think they'll overcorrect on people not liking Andromeda, is my reasoning
dire condor
Mass Effect: The Rise of Shepard
rancid cove
don't speak that evil into the world
dire condor
I'm sorry, I didn't mean it.
There was a lot to like about Andromeda.
The level design in a lot of places was absolutely fascinating and the movement felt really good, even if occasionally wonky animations messed with the sense of that.
rancid token
I hope when they put the remastered trilogy out they keep the multiplayer from 3
wraith cradle
They probably gonna go with Shepard being dead
dire condor
They're not.
rancid token
Then they should put it out as a standalone game
dire condor
Already confirmed. It's still alive and kicking on at least PC.
rancid token
I'd like to see it reworked to not run off lootboxes
But I just love the flavor behind it
dire condor
Oh.
I hadn't thought of that.
Well, last I checked they were no longer banning people for credit hacking, so you're free to give yourself enough money to start with a maxed manifest.
rancid token
Playing as the different races and classes in ways that made sense for them was great
wraith cradle
ME3 multiplayer was top-notch
dire condor
I'm absolutely flabbergasted that a Mass Effect MMO hasn't happened yet.
rancid token
I remember cracking a Geth Prime once and falling in love
wraith cradle
It really felt unique and made you feel like part of a greater-Whole
dire condor
Seriously, I'm very against MMOs and I would go all-in.
rancid token
I would prefer something in the style of Monster Hunter
dire condor
Let me be a krogan, dammit.
Aw, wait.
This announcement came out a few weeks after the last members of the original Bioware team left, right?
Casey Hudson bailed and then "Mass Effect will return?"
wraith cradle
To be Honest the biggest hype announcement was Endless Dungeon for me
I fanboy that saga hard
dire condor
I lied, I've got two games from TGA that are now on my watch list.
shell roost
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1367300/Blade_Assault/ there is just a demo yet, but if you like plattformer and roguelites you may like it
severe fulcrum
dude
theres a game called dandy ace
:0
and its another rougelike
Have you ever played Wizard of Legend?
hardy onyx
Yeah I saw a bit of that one during PAX Online, Dandy Ace seemed interesting
severe fulcrum
its like that
aaaaaaaahhh
I want it
I loved wizard of legend
and it looks like this
2021 is gonna be the rougelike year
polar dragon
2021 is gonna be the rougelike year
hmmmm
severe fulcrum
wait... both of these games are by the same publishher
:0
Neowiz is gonna be on a roll
also NEOWIZ
neo
wiz
polar dragon
I'm waiting for a AAA roguelike
polar dragon
Maybe one day
near birch
(Ngl, pretty uncomfortable with this given its roots in being garbage towards autistic people, myself included)
polar dragon
Activision Blizzard would make a roguelike
severe fulcrum
waitwhat
polar dragon
It's a 4chan thing, which yknow, can be a bit disparaging towards people with disabilities, mental or else.
wraith cradle
Crying Suns was also great imo
severe fulcrum
im uh, sorry
wraith cradle
Anyways Edge of Eternity just announced new chapter in 5 days and I'm excited
polar dragon
im uh, sorry
My friends and I used to do it a lot, memes catch on pretty fast. But you learn along the way.
near birch
(S’fine, you weren’t aware)
polar dragon
Anyway, what do you imagine a AAA roguelike would have?
polar dragon
I do own shadow of war, but not the dlc
I put like 30 hours into the game
couldn't finish it... I loved Mordor to death but War just somehow feels more repetitive
polar dragon
also didn't hear about prey until now
is that the same Prey or like DLC makes it a roguelite?
wraith cradle
In any case one of the DLCs you play as Baranor, who unlike the Elf and Troy Baker is completely human, so if you lose you must start again
polar dragon
right
wraith cradle
Prey Mooncrash is a dlc/Expansion of Prey, which is in a new map with a Roguelite format
You unlock characters do quest and try too complete a checklist to finish the game
It's pretty entertaining and lasts 8 hours give or take
polar dragon
thanks!
shell roost
theres a game called dandy ace
played blade assault and dandy ace back to back, blade aussault hooked me more but dandy ace has potential
rancid token
I wish I could get Prey functioning properly, my sound settings never seem to work correctly
rancid cove
aw that's a tragedy, Prey has my favorite level design sensibilities maybe ever
rancid token
Yeah none of the monsters ever seem to make any noise
fast walrus
aw that's a tragedy, Prey has my favorite level design sensibilities maybe ever
Arkane studios does amazing level design
I'm pretty pumped for deathloop honestly
floral warren
one thing I need to quench my thirst for hyped up games
OW2
rancid cove
sharp raft
Let's try to encourage a healthy workplace at videogame companies
Productivity goes down if people overwork
cosmic vine
Hey guys just watched the cyberpunk 2077 gameplay on YouTube. Oh boy that game has alot of bugs
sharp raft
I saw somebody phase through an elevator
And on the subreddit they're making a big deal over the wrong type of manhole covers
cosmic vine
Hm
Luckily I don't buy AAA game when it released on day one because you never know if the game is buggy or not.
sharp raft
I bet the devs were looking forward to a long break after the crunch time, only it turned out to be incredibly buggy, and now they're going to be under more crunch time to fix everything
eager hamlet
Dandy Ace uses Transistors upgrade system, and for that alone I think its interesting
The devs knew the state the game was in
cosmic vine
Or pre order because I don't do that.
sharp raft
I don't live in poland but CDPR doesn't look like a very good company to work for
sharp raft
They announced it in, what, 2012? That should've been more than enough time to come up with story
eager hamlet
CDPR is pretty infamous for how their work culture
Just
Sucks
Horrible crunch, bad management, everything
sharp raft
It's even a pre-existing IP! That should've helped too
dire condor
I saw someone in the last day or so say they think CP77 got Star Citizen Syndrome: They became more concerned with fitting every new tech as it came out and they failed to build an actual game.
stable kindle
oh god star citizen
cosmic vine
Hm p. S I decided to get hades because of the bugs in cyberpunk 2077
rancid cove
it's the better game anyway
sharp raft
I heard the actual story is meh, even disregarding the bugs
cosmic vine
It just I don't like paying full price AAA games when the game is buggy
sharp raft
Hopefully they can pull a No Man's Sky
wraith cradle
And on the subreddit they're making a big deal over the wrong type of manhole co...
I mean 57 years on the future can't the standard have changed?
Also Elite Dangerous is quickly enchroaching all that Star Citizen is trying to put in the table
rancid cove
rancid token
Does Star Citizen even have any form of gameplay at the moment
rancid cove
it does, yes
cosmic vine
Hm. Besides that there another game I got today it called vampire the masquerade night road
rancid cove
that's about the most i can say for it
rancid cove
cosmic vine
@rancid cove yup
It just so funny that gamer hate others buggy games made by ubisoft or Bethesda.
But when cyberpunk 2077 is out. Everyone is reviewing it 9 out 10.
rancid cove
cyberjunk? no idea
rancid cove
my understanking is that it's not so much that the story is bad as it is that it's poorly executed
i mean, there's also some debate as to whether the story was worth telling at all, but the criticism i hear is definitely more weighted toward "how" than "what"
wraith cradle
Fun Fact
It took me 30 full minutes to realize one character was Penn Jillette
When it was obvious he was
cosmic vine
@rancid cove I see.
dire condor
cyberjunk 2003 lol
cosmic vine
@dire condor yup
wraith cradle
To be honest, CP77 inspired me to play DE:HR again after 5 years
Let me tell you despite being 9 years old the graphics held themselves great
floral warren
is it that much already?
For a coma? Yes
(Thats an another game reference)
twin yarrow
haven't recognized, alas
floral warren
mgs v tpp 
floral warren
It’s such an amazing series, shame that no one wants to make all it’s masterpieces available on current gen/pc
Hoping for Bluepoint to remake mgs series
twin yarrow
well, bc konami.. we know
rancid cove
just watch vinny sauce's playthroughs tbh
twin yarrow
or that
floral warren
yep
twin yarrow
well, old systems are either cheap on second-hand market.. or easily emulated
twin yarrow
well, not a problem, tbh, i still play oldies from 90s from time to time
early 3d, however, was not great even back then
floral warren
Legit I can take something like sonic 1-3 better than crash 1-3
2d’s still fine even to this day.
sharp raft
I saw brutalmoose play some games from the '90s
twin yarrow
Adventure series are also very good, but original dreamcast versions are hard to perceive now
sharp raft
The FMV didn't age really well
floral warren
Adventure series are also very good, but original dreamcast versions are hard to...
It’s also awesome, but the too many ports made the steam version look like a freaking piece of crap
wraith cradle
Like when I discovered WD1 is 6 years already
sharp raft
the edutainment games aged better but like, realistically, no kid wants to play them these days, just nostalgic adults
floral warren
I saw posts earlier about cdpr, I just finished the last witcher 3 dlc...
It took me one year to finish it..
fallen sky
yo I was today years old when I found out that half the disco elysium VAs are from chapo trap house
cinder badger
blood and darkness y'all won't belive this they added thanatos to smash bros
twin yarrow
kekw
wraith cradle
yo I was today years old when I found out that half the disco elysium VAs are fr...
Not that much, tho they do minor characters. The most important characters are not voiced by them
The only exception is Titus Hardie
The rest are basically cameos
fallen sky
it's just a wild thing to find out about
wraith cradle
Yeah yeah. They are fans the creators
I'm gonna probably replay DE when the Final Cut comes out
I hope they solve some of the bottlenecks
Like how to ||recover your gun|| you are forced to ||do two quests for Evrart.||
twin yarrow
things like that are always interesting to know
forest stirrup
twin yarrow
i almost forgot how his name sounds in english..
lofty pecan
whats a good rpg to get into? tried witcher 3 but seemed a bit slow paced in the first 10 hours
*open world rpg
near birch
Disco Elysium is always gonna be my first recommendation but I don’t think that’s what you mean by rpg
rancid cove
horizon zero dawn
rancid cove
do the xenoblades chronicle count?
supple fulcrum
Seconding “Octopath”. If you get stuck on one storyline, you can swap to another which I appreciated.
wraith cradle
Gravity Rush 2 if you have a PS4
rancid cove
that's open world?
wraith cradle
Nier
Kinda?
Edge of Eternity is getting its second to last chapter the 16th
Just saying
lofty pecan
ive heard some stuff about fallout hows that in comparison?
wraith cradle
Depends of the Fallout
lofty pecan
3, 4, new vegas?
rancid cove
new vegas is the good one
mortal siren
new vegas, 4 , 3 is the lowest rated for me
lofty pecan
whats the best "intro to rpgs" friendly game?
mortal siren
ac i guess
lofty pecan
black flag?
wraith cradle
2 more like it, but 4 is good too
wraith cradle
We know, Todd is in Chess Club right now
hardy onyx
Black Flag is the only AC game I've played and I'm not mad about it, it was great
wraith cradle
Normie: Car and radio
Cool guy: Ship and pirate crew
hardy onyx
Seriously, even if you don't like the rest of the AC series, Black Flag is such a treat to just sail around playing pirate simulator and listening to shanties
mortal siren
since ac up to syndicate is barely an rpg, more parkour sim
stable kindle
ac origins and odyssey are my 'running around ancient civilizations' simulators lol. theres a uh mythos podcast i follow on twt, the host was asking about odyssey about a month ago, asking about how feasible it would be to get into as someone who doesnt play games and hasnt played games since like n64 days or something. she ended up getting it, and starting it was a bit of a struggle for her as she tried to adjust to how to play it, but once she got over that, shes been having a blast. its been very endearing seeing her gush about visiting certain locations and stuff
wraith cradle
You know? AC origins basically killed me
It's history wank taken to it's logical conclusion
stable kindle
i just ran around in the desert for like 40 hours before i ever even got the hidden blade 
hardy onyx
i just ran around in the desert for like 40 hours before i ever even got the hid...
It me in virtually any open world game
stable kindle
dont worry all my friends shamed me for it
me: lol iunno i put like a couple dozen hours in before i even realized i hadnt got the blade yet
everyone: tatz what the heck
junior crown
I block out the fact there is a main story line quest if I have freedom to do all the side stuff, which in turn makes me completely not up to date with main story line and then go "oh okay that happened"
stable kindle
people pay attention to the story in ac games?? wild! idk from the moment i started and they were pushing the avenging son story on me i was just like, hey man sorry about your kid but i dont know them and had zero time to get invested in them so i... really dont care. okay bye running into the desert, see you and the story later
and then i spent some undetermined amount of hours on a fire horse making pretty pictures and sometimes ransacking bases 
polar dragon
I can't tell if this is Animal Crossing or Assassin Creed.
stable kindle
fox youre cute
sharp raft
Yes, tanuki are beings that used to exist and getting in debt is the best way to reenact history
junior crown
Oh I was talking about Open World RPGs overall, I honestly never got too much invested into stories there, but then again it's hard for me to. I can't help pay as much attention if there is too much room for freedom. Though yeah does work for AC. Though I guess I did care up to like AC3, which kind of still had some focus on the present storyline but then I dropped out from series due to being unable to keep up (and well too basic that it is predictable) and I am like "wait there was a game set in France? In Britain too? Wait I forgot about 3 platformer instalments of the game."
stable kindle
i dropped off the story after brotherhood lol
how on earth do you even get into your non-valhalla photos on the website now, i hate this
junior crown
Even then I remember AC3 because I was gifted a disk of it (which was kind of a rarity, since mostly I had digital versions of the games) and well since it had like such an interestingly weird multiplayer. Kind o wish people tried to dig into such, instead of trying to make another team based shooter with abilities.
stable kindle
im losing my mind did ubi straight up nuke origins/odyssey photomode galleries cause i cant find them now, its just valhalla >:/
well! this is lame. rip to my stuff then
junior crown
oh yeah it seems so, rip.
junior crown
if you have the same storage can try checking C:\Users\username\Documents\Assassin's Creed Origins\photos\ if on PC?
stable kindle
oh theyre in my steam folder, and in the ubi folder, i know that. its just dumb theres no way to access them on the site now
the game stats tell you how many photos you uploaded but i didnt see any way to look at them
ubisoft: heres a new ac game, surely you dont want access to the galleries of the previous two games right, we're getting rid of those
junior crown
yeah sad to see the lack of preservation of such. Kind of defeats the point of the gallery I think lol. "This gallery shall stay up as long as this game is still the new entry, afterwards, we are nuking the gallery and using said space for the new title's gallery".
stable kindle
now i cant see which of my uploads was the one that got traction 😔
disappointed but ultimately not surprised
rancid cove
junior crown
oh yeah I have that. need to revisit it. A bit simple on the design and theme, but otherwise nice and challenging platformer/rpg
severe fulcrum
oo
cosmic vine
Nice artwork
rancid cove
mellow linden
@rancid cove hey i’m gonna have to delete this due to rule 2, this server is pg!
rancid cove
sour cipher
Hmmm, I guess she is a little pogchamp
rancid cove
rancid cove
Twitter
dire condor
LOL
polar dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWQcuBigOj0
Great video. Though it cracks me up that the guy remap Hades reload to something else. I think virtually everyone does that.
hearty spindle
Except me, anyways
hearty spindle
I mean I rebinded it once when I tried messing with Hestia Rail, but I reset it back to normal afterwards
Also I don't really know where else I could even rebind it too
Special got rebinded to right-mouse, Cast is on the only side button my mouse has, and the other places I could think of putting it are also too awkward to reach for mid-gameplay
So R key is really the only option that works
hardy onyx
I'm not sure that reload is an issue on KBM, it's mostly the controller default that people rebind
hearty spindle
Oh
sonic niche
Ive done it
Ive found the most braindead among us lobby
Me: Guys its lime. Not only did they fake card swipe, they also when to the garbage chute at the beginning of the game without doing the first part
Literally everyone: Its red (me). Stop assuming all the time
I get voted off
Few rounds pass
Imposters win: Brown and Lime
Also btw, all my “assumptions” while playing with that lobby all turned out to be true btw
floral warren
now, imagine that lobby but the lobby is your friends
sonic niche
Imagine having friends
humble dust
zealous fossil
oh god
rancid cove
broken smelt
11/10 video game, absolutely flawless, would phase through dumpster again
heavy kiln
Considering cyberpunk's setting, I find it almost poetic to see the game swarming with bugs, janky physics and blurred, almost ethereal figures that almost look like people
wraith cradle
I'm just gonna tell my children that's Hitman 2047
pulsar kindle
"It's not buggy, your visuals are just glitching"
dire condor
@rancid cove nice game xd
wraith cradle
Glitches can be part of the charm if they are harmless enough
Just see Skyrim
Where the community didn't want the giant glitch to be fixed
dire condor
Yeah but here we're talking about the "game of the century"
I understood it wasn't really when I drive right into a NPJ car who fly away to the moon
And it's sad
cause the game got a real potential
But this + that
It was to early to sell it I guess, but the gamers wouldn't have understand
wraith cradle
If I trusted games by the hype I would be Playing Star Citizen on an actual spaceship while I binged NMS at night
wraith cradle
Mah, didn't fall for it
I'm just saying don't let yourselves get caught in the hype
floral warren
Someone just sent me a meme about how CDPR will pull a NMS/D2 on CP77
and I don't know If I'm mad or ok with it
wraith cradle
NMS was once in a lifetime thing
I'm not gonna trust Sean Murray's hype but at least I'm gona trust his competency lol
wraith cradle
What you mean?
floral warren
I think NMS got all of us jebaited well with the E3 trailers.
wraith cradle
To be honest
If they have gone the EA route they would have been revered as much as SGG with Hades
floral warren
can you elaborate more on the "EA route"?
floral warren
mass effect andromeda nightmares
Still, the game got a bit of a comeback in 2019.
as in NMS
the only two games I'm excited for is a Bioshock, and OW2 (I hope and I mean hope that the game will get content and have a reputation as good as late 2016-mid 2017)
uneven heath
well, FFXIV turned itself around after 1.0 as well. so not quite a “once in a lifetime”. Just a matter of devs and publisher being willing to turn the ship around and the fans giving them a chance
wraith cradle
Yeah but NMS would be hailed as one of the best indie games of the decade if they had gone smart about it
floral warren
Yeah but NMS would be hailed as one of the best indie games of the decade if the...
It reached a hype buildup similar to OW in 2014, and that was impossible to do back then!.
floral warren
well, FFXIV turned itself around after 1.0 as well. so not quite a “once in a li...
SquareEnix knows what game series is better to release.
Which is why I hate what they done with Just Cause 4 and Just Cause Mobile.
uneven heath
I'm not that into the Just Cause franchise to know what's going on there, just wanted to point out that Square managed to turn one of the worst MMOs into one of the best / most played ones 😉
floral warren
If they can do that, surely CDPR can
With a sorta of "complete edition" or a "goty edition"
twin yarrow
tbh, Witcher 3 on release was no less buggy and glitchy..
which mean, that CDPR devs can fix what's wrong, just not right now.
i can guess, when it became obvious, that they can't fix everything in time, the managers decided, that game should be fixed asap, and then all that delay stuff began, along with crunches
floral warren
Roche is still buggy af and I love the game
Roche is the horse in Witcher 3 for those who don't know
twin yarrow
guess, releasing now in a debatable state was the safest decision. it's still better than make devs crunch even more
what's more fitting, btw, flying horse in a fantasy magic setting, or flying car in sci-fi setting? 🤔
floral warren
hmm, magic can nearly do anything like teleporting or flying (Geralt really hates teleports or portals) , So I guess both on an equal terms
twin yarrow
and honestly, i can't understand, how people are happy that CP77 started poorly, even considering crunches and stuff
all the bugs are not on management's account, just devs are not magicians. direction wanted to avoid that and forced people to do the impossible
it was awful
floral warren
the game was ambitious af
Imagine build a hype up since 2012!
2 witcher games worth of waiting
and for them to go from a sorta old fantasy to a near future cyberpunk style is borderline impossible
twin yarrow
the bigger the hype, the higher will be disappointment probability, that's the rule of nature
guess, what happened to Kojima, could've been a lesson
wraith cradle
That's why EuroJank is considered a genre of it's own
Eurojank are ambitious games made by European Developers whose talent and scope outweight their budget
twin yarrow
even if the game will be good and polished, it still can't please everyone, especially when they expect BIGGEST EXPERIENCE OF THE CENTURY™️
wraith cradle
even if the game will be good and polished, it still can't please everyone, espe...
The game is already Polish tho
twin yarrow
can't argue with that kek
floral warren
guess, what happened to Kojima, could've been a lesson
I'm still mad as how they made MGSV such a good gameplay but a story nowhere comparable to the legenedary stories MG series is known for..
wraith cradle
Because Konami was getting tired of Kojima
The gameplay was 100% finished, the story wasn't
floral warren
and the engine had so much potential, instead just waste it on a sports game and a gambling machine
wraith cradle
Which is a shame they didn't retool the material they have and limited the scope to make an incredible game
Like seriously the MGSV stealth mechanics are tight
floral warren
they could've gone like capcom and make MGS available for next gen.
you won't believe how many people will get interested in the story alone , let alone gameplay..
wraith cradle
It controls smoothly and like a dream
floral warren
Like seriously the MGSV stealth mechanics are *tight*
they had that "reflex mode", it's a noob friendly feature that makes alerts not that scary
wraith cradle
I have the theory Kojima was fired because he pitched Death Stranding to the board and they though he had gone insane
floral warren
I've played dishonored like couple days ago and I still find MGSV some what comparable to the gameplay, many options but stealth is the focus..
wraith cradle
'So yeah there is the redneck from the Walking Dead and he is like pregnant, I also hired a geneticist to determine how a children conceived by Mads Mikkelsen and myself would look like. Don't worry though. Del Toro confirmed me he would be the Godfather.'
floral warren
Kojima knows how to writes stories but they're weird AF
like how can you write a war story and your game revolves around stealth?
twin yarrow
'So yeah there is the redneck from the Walking Dead and he is like pregnant, I a...
i can totally see that, like on that photo with him and Mads looking like "wth this guy is talking about"
guess, as a huge company, Konami doesn't like to take risks
wraith cradle
In terms of Star Power it was probably one of the biggest ever
wraith cradle
I'm trying to think of a game with a more star-studded cast
wraith cradle
Squadron 42 right
Gotta say Mark Hamill has somehow aged gracefully and not at all at the same time
wraith cradle
Kingdom Hearts
Birth by sleep had very big names
But in total you get Haley Joel Osment, David Gallagher, Hayden Panettiere, Jesse Mc Cartney, Brittany Snow, Christopher Lee, Leonard Nimoy and Mark Hamill.
twin yarrow
that's a lot
wraith cradle
God Nimoy died 5 years ago already, how time flies
twin yarrow
so many people gone these years.. especially this last..
famous in the world, or just locally
pseudo gate
guys.. im really upset with the society now. I know no one gives a crap and whatnot but i need get this off my chest... i dont have the balls to do it on reddit so i do it here
sorry... but i need to get this off
im really upset that people insulting cyberpunk
i played it on ps4 and it works rather fine
sure there are glitches but... its a game and also i encounter those glitches like 2-3 times on my 3 whole days of playing
It is so unfair that people throwing tantrum and jump on the hate wagon of cyberpunk because of graphics
CD projekt red put their whole heart into this game and because of the mis-timed graphics, people crap on it
The gameplay is awesome, the story is great so far. And i dont care that much about those 1 quick second of rendering graphics. Like do people expect it to be perfect?
you know how hard it is to create a game? these people... is too much
sorry i know im being dumb here
im just ... idk.
dire condor
People aren't upset about graphical glitches.
pseudo gate
People aren't upset about graphical glitches.
oh? really? wait... what? haha
dire condor
They're upset about a game delayed three times with the devs in crunch conditions and this is the product we got.
It's manifesting as anger over graphical glitches.
pseudo gate
They're upset about a game delayed three times with the devs in crunch condition...
i know but.... pls they are trying really hard
it feels like an unfair treatment
dire condor
Are players who were promised the world and given absolutely not it supposed to bite their tongues?
pseudo gate
it is really hard to be a game dev
dire condor
I understand that.
But I can still point fingers at CDPR execs who made bad decisions and put out a flawed product.
I'm not angry at the graphics artist.
pseudo gate
But I can still point fingers at CDPR execs who made bad decisions and put out a...
i do kinda agree with you about CDPR about the releasing dates. I mean they could have just wait till further notice rather than putting in dates after dates
dire condor
I know they were put in unreasonable conditions.
pseudo gate
I know they were put in unreasonable conditions.
yaaa ty for understanding. I feel really bad for them that they got the hate
i know this is stupid but i bought 2 of their games just to show them my little support
quartz latch
I hope nobody's getting angry at the programmers/QA/etc, but there were decisions at the top that need to be called out, starting with the crunch
twin yarrow
people have rights to express their discontent, yes, but when someone says how they are so glad and pleased that CP77 turned out to be a bad game, i can't justify that
first, it's not bad. many people still enjoy what they got.
second, bugs and glitches apparently at some point became unevitable, but direction made poor descisions, and forced devs to do the impossible, release on nonexistent, etc. thus resulting in putting devs' health in danger.
i can understand, if a game would become glitched because of management, but it's more complicated than that
and now, after release, even with stocks going down, CDPR stays one of the richest companies in Poland, and with all the preorders they still covered all the expenses
broken smelt
There's also issues of blantant transphobia people are taking issue with
Ie. Pronouns being tied to voice
twin yarrow
well, it's another topic
as someone new to all this, i don't get why are people that mad, since it's one of little amount of games, where creating trans protagonist is even a possibility
wraith cradle
There's also issues of blantant transphobia people are taking issue with
Isn't the transphobia in-Universe?
twin yarrow
i have to study that issue more, but for now those opinions are in minority, and issue can still be fixed in next patches
broken smelt
It's that many trans people are incredibly self consious about their voice, so having pronouns tied to that is incredibly awful
A lack of any form of NB options stings too
wraith cradle
Oh, I thought you were talking about the tacky in-Universe commericals
broken smelt
That too
wraith cradle
Which were supposed to highlight how corporations Appropiate trans problems to cash money
Like they treat transexuals as a commodity
twin yarrow
that can be fixed, simple three more radio buttons somewhere in character creator
and one voice slider/radiobox
broken smelt
The last one is harder to fix (the lack of NB options)
twin yarrow
what is NB again?
broken smelt
Non-Binary
wraith cradle
To be honest I think we are in a transiton for queer media in general
twin yarrow
well, it's an issue for most games, where protagonist's gender plays a role
wraith cradle
We are in a phase media centered in Black people crossed and left behind and now we look with Low-Key embarrasment
We used to have the Magical Black Man movies and now we are entering in the Magical Queer era.
twin yarrow
i can understand that many people, who used to be left out of attention can feel bad, when their interests are not considered as much as they should be, i know, i've been there myself