video-games

[mortal siren]

how can you even change the marvel new york map that much

[tall linden]

Ask Loki and Thanos 😉

[ornate cosmos]

Has any of you guys (or girls) played God of War games? (I'm not talking about the last one)

[mortal siren]

only played 2

i mean god of war 2

[wraith cradle]

God

Im so excited

https://twitter.com/IOInteractive/status/1329061800533438464

IO Interactive (@IOInteractive)

November 19. New Project Reveal.
https://t.co/ryOKM50SD1

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inB4 K&L3

[rancid cove]

i played the first two gods of war

and of course dad of boy

[wraith cradle]

Imagine if in DoB2 Kratos bites it and the rest is all atreus like certain other sony exclusive. It won't happen, but just imagine the reactions

[rancid cove]

at least atreus is a boy

[wraith cradle]

Although the difference is power level

Joel and Ellie are normal humans with guns against normal humans with guns

Kratos is just so above his son is not funny

[rancid cove]

oh that's not true at all

his son is just. like. 12

[wraith cradle]

Yeah that's what I mean

What Kratos deals in daily Basis would crush atreus like nothing

That's why that twist can't work in GoW

[rancid cove]

sure, for the next maybe 3 years

and then the kid comes into his own

[wraith cradle]

Yeah I suppose

There is the fact for better or worse Kratos is much more iconic that any other tlou character

[dire condor]

Hot spoilery TLoU2 take: ||Joel is an awful awful person and the only reason gamers are so upset he dies is because he was the (villain) protagonist of the first game and they identified with his "Eff you, got mine," philosophy.||

[rancid cove]

oh agree

like, the only reason i didn't categorically write off the sequel was ||because it turns out that, yes, he DID get a reckoning for the end of the first game||

[hybrid jetty]

main reason I dislike tlou2's writing is because it ||tries to say "violence and revenge is bad you guys" while giving the player almost zero agency over whether violence or revenge is carried out by you||

||also yeah joel deserved to die||

[junior crown]

||I think the Joel's death was warranted, but it takes a bit of time for some players to get onto with it, since it happens quick and too snappy, with then other things falling down onto to player to keep track of, which then also plays into what the player takes away in the end from that. I have mostly seen the discussion mostly go to these two basic views, that the game is or about how violence and revenge is horrible, but due to how player's agency is complete to none and there is no way to reverse the actions, the lesson becomes powerless when player unable to separate themselves from characters. But then comes the thing about if the player does separate themselves from the game's characters, it feels like the game doesn't use its strength as the media too well, but does try to give a good story. Overall though LTOU2 definitely should have used the strength game as media way more to get the story more impactful, at least in my perspective. ||

[wraith cradle]

Both Ellie, Joel and his brother are. Anyone who uses torture so liberally isn't a good person

[stable kindle]

lol imagine cheating in fall guys https://twitter.com/TwitchRivals/status/1329123842304974849

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2020 sure is a year

[fallen sky]

❓ embarrassing luv

[mortal siren]

TLOU2 got nominated for best narrative, and 2 of the best voice acting nominees is from TLOU2

what

[vocal hound]

what did he do wtf

[junior crown]

stream snipped people playing fall guys

if I recall correctly

[vocal hound]

oh damn

[fallen sky]

the game awards introduced me to two new games, at least. and i think i only got to vote for ori once ;;

[fast trout]

I didn't really care for TLOU2, but it's got that AAA pedigree, so I'm sure it'll do well in awards. I still need to play Ori...

[fallen sky]

i need to play the sequel u_u

[fast trout]

Ori or TLOU2?

[fallen sky]

ori ;;;;; LOL tlou2 keeps slipping my mind. and rightfully so, i feel

[wraith cradle]

Best Multiplayer

Among us

Bruh

The game is 2 years old

[fast trout]

I mean, at least it's fun.

[wraith cradle]

Yeah, but 2020 is 2020

If the game becomes popular again in 3 years is gonna be nominated again?

At least nominate it for Best ONGOING Game

[eager hamlet]

What multiplayer game even came out this year

[wraith cradle]

Animal Crossing

[rancid cove]

tlou2

at least one cawadoody

[wraith cradle]

Also there is NO WAY Half-Life: Alyx doesnt win best VR game

There is simply no way

[rancid cove]

HLA is the best VR game thus far, to say nothing of this year

OH WAIT

APHENPHOSMPHOBIA

[wraith cradle]

The other nominations are
Dreams
Marvel's Iron Man VR
Star Wars: Squadrons
The Walking Dead: Saint's Sinners

MAYBE Star wars but that's still a long second

[eager hamlet]

Man

[junior crown]

wait Dreams was in VR too?

[fiery cobalt]

Sup km here to talk game awards

[eager hamlet]

I do not care for the game awards choices this year

[junior crown]

oh right ps4 has like VR

[eager hamlet]

Hades is just about the only one I want to win

And Im not even sure its always the right choice

[fiery cobalt]

I should've seen this comint

[rancid cove]

tbh yaku7a is being robbed

[fast trout]

It's always the right choice. I think.

I gotta check again now xDD

[fiery cobalt]

I went to the ori discord and consensus was "ori wins all" and is the consensus here "hades wins all"

Am I wasting my time here lol

[eager hamlet]

Mobile game for RPG
Not TOCS4

[fallen sky]

me sacrificing ori for hades u___u

[eager hamlet]

Smh

[wraith cradle]

Don't tell me

[modest sorrel]

Ori is also great

[fiery cobalt]

I'm not saying either is bad at all

[modest sorrel]

But compared to hades

[fallen sky]

ori is so great! hell yeah

[modest sorrel]

Idk

[fiery cobalt]

I think ori wins music

[rancid cove]

hades only wins all b/c they were too afraid to nominate yakuza 7

[fast trout]

I need to play it to be able to properly judge it (Ori).

[eager hamlet]

I guess fighting game should be UNIECLR

[fiery cobalt]

And I think ori has a chance at art desifn

[rancid cove]

did somebody say

[eager hamlet]

Mostly because the other ones aint good or new

But SFV is probably gonna win

[modest sorrel]

Art and music design wise ori is slightly better

[rancid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/kin-planet-kin-kinnie-onceler-the-lorax-gif-18870639

[modest sorrel]

But gameplay wise hades just crushes it

[fiery cobalt]

10o% agreed

[wraith cradle]

So Hades nominations are

Best VA
Best Art Direction
Best OST
Best Narrative
Best Indie
Best Game Direction
Goty

[modest sorrel]

Best indie for sure

[fast trout]

Hades's characters, art and narrative killed it for me.

So good

[fallen sky]

i think i only voted for ori in one category... 😭

[rancid cove]

VA hades can only POSSIBLY lose to 7r

[fiery cobalt]

Plz get categories right, its not VA its performance, and its not OST its score

There are differences

[eager hamlet]

Id say

[wraith cradle]

I am spanish

[eager hamlet]

Art Directio and Indie for sure

[wraith cradle]

I am translating

[fiery cobalt]

No problem

Not hating at all

[fast trout]

7R was pretty divisive.

[eager hamlet]

OST probably as well

[fiery cobalt]

Just clarifying

[eager hamlet]

The rest Im not sure on

[fiery cobalt]

Honestly

[modest sorrel]

Ori also has great ost

[fiery cobalt]

I dont see hades winning a lot

[wraith cradle]

Art Direction Ori will win imo

[fiery cobalt]

Hot take

Art direction for me is ghost or ori

Music is ori or doom

Performance goes to TLOU for me

[mortal siren]

the only catogory i think TLOU2 should have actual nomination is the most accessible game

[wraith cradle]

Yeah sry SGG but Art direction is not Hades strong suit

[fast trout]

I can see Ori winning art and Doom with music.

[fallen sky]

you'd be surprised! many people love hades. all my friends like it, and they usually don't care about indies (unfortunately!)

[fiery cobalt]

Game directoon... it has a chance but I see ghost winning.
Indie unquestionably hades

[wraith cradle]

Spiritfarer may clutcha win lmao

[fiery cobalt]

Tlou2 wins accessible hands down

[eager hamlet]

Hades is this years indie darling

[modest sorrel]

And goty will probably be tlou2 because of how popular it is

[eager hamlet]

And honestly Id argue Hades's art direction is really good

[fallen sky]

it would be cool if spiritfarer catches a win

[rancid cove]

there's nothing from square nominated for music, so doom has to win

[wraith cradle]

Or animal Crossing as reward for uniting people suring pandemic or some thing

[fiery cobalt]

I also think tlou2 wins performance and audio design

[mortal siren]

its very divisive i dont think it have a chance on games with better standing in the community

[fiery cobalt]

And theres potential for tlou2 winning goty, narrative, and direction

[fast trout]

Hades's art direction is AMAZING. The designs alone are spectacular... but I can see Ori winning and I've not even played that one.

[modest sorrel]

Animal crossing shouldn't be goty in my opinion

[fiery cobalt]

Goty 90% dependent on a cast of professionals 10% on votes iirc

[wraith cradle]

What I'm sure is that Hades os gonna lose AT LEAST one of them

[modest sorrel]

I mean its chill and great but i would prefer others

[fiery cobalt]

When I'm at my computer I'm gonna list my major picks

[modest sorrel]

Wait is that true

[fiery cobalt]

Feel free to @ me and judge me

[wraith cradle]

If I had to bet Art direction where its simply not the best there

[modest sorrel]

Damn man then no indie can ever win goty

[mortal siren]

if tlou2 actually wins goty, i swear everyone will consider other catgories as biased for sure, mark my words

[fast trout]

I expect TLOU2 to win a fair bit, although I didn't much care for it.

[wraith cradle]

I want GoT to win personally

[fiery cobalt]

Winners are determined by a blended vote between the voting jury (90%) and public fan voting (10%)

[fallen sky]

game of thrones?

[fiery cobalt]

I mean. Look at last year

A long time everyone considered control a favorite

[wraith cradle]

Tsushima

[fiery cobalt]

Then stranding won every award

Other than goty

[modest sorrel]

Rip

[fiery cobalt]

I can totally see that happening this year

Ghost winning gott

[modest sorrel]

At least hades is guaranteed indie goty

[wraith cradle]

Reminder high number of nominations are usually a curse in Awards shows

[fiery cobalt]

And tlou2 beating ghost in 80% of other mutual categories

[wraith cradle]

Because you end winning almost nothing

[fast trout]

I can see that, Sttardustt.

[fiery cobalt]

I mean

[fallen sky]

oh thank goodness albino. ;; tsushima has a decent chance of winning, imo

[modest sorrel]

Tlou2 really depends on people

Some think it as a original masterpiece like dunkey

And some just hate it

[fast trout]

TLOU2 was extremely, extremely divisive.

[fiery cobalt]

There are a lot of similarly caliber games this year. Imo tho, the game thats gonna get mass nominated and win nothing is ff7

[modest sorrel]

Yeah

[fiery cobalt]

It wasn't a phenomenal year in gamint

[fast trout]

FFVIIR doesn't really deserve anything imo.

[modest sorrel]

True

Atleast release the full game

[wraith cradle]

I hope Miles wins best VA

[modest sorrel]

Do you guys think doom can win goty

[fiery cobalt]

Performance, not va. Idt it will

No

[modest sorrel]

I didnt play it

But heard good things bout it

[fallen sky]

when was the last year that was a good year in gaming? i voted in the awards and i did feel like the options felt hollow

[mortal siren]

i still think TLOU2 is a game with too much self indulgent, where the quality is there but the direction is messed up

[fiery cobalt]

I played 4 of the 6 titles

[wraith cradle]

Why write 11 words when yoou can write 2 and everybody understand it?

[fiery cobalt]

I think

[mortal siren]

theres not much games comes out this year i guess

[fast trout]

I don't think Doom will win GOTY. It's not... I dunno. It feels like the Horror Movie nominated for Best Picture, surrounded by Oscar Bait xDD.

[wraith cradle]

TLOU2 gonna win performance probably Laura Bailey

[modest sorrel]

Bruh i only played hades

[fiery cobalt]

Doom will win action

[modest sorrel]

2017 was the best year for me

[fiery cobalt]

2017 agreed

Best year this gen

[mortal siren]

i can see how ppl will choose doom over tlou2

[modest sorrel]

I played almost every game at there

[fiery cobalt]

Followed by 2018

[wraith cradle]

Fall Guys MP

[rancid cove]

yeah 2017 was arguably the best single year for game releases

[fiery cobalt]

Fall guys will lose to among us imo

This years releases I played

[wraith cradle]

Among us nomination is idiotic imo

[fiery cobalt]

Doom, ori, tlou, ghost

[wraith cradle]

Its a 2018 game

[mortal siren]

among us is an old game

[fiery cobalt]

Uhh

[modest sorrel]

Fall guys is just bad

[fiery cobalt]

Hades

[mortal siren]

fall guys isnt bad, its a party game

[wraith cradle]

Early access doesnt count

[modest sorrel]

I mean

[fiery cobalt]

ok im on computer now

[wraith cradle]

Among us was a COMPLETE game that became viral

[fast trout]

I'd choose Doom over TLOU2 personally, but TLOU2 had an important message about violence within its... hyper-violent gameplay. I can see TLOU2 appealing to a jury.

[modest sorrel]

There are better party games where fallguys itself is a minigame in it

[mortal siren]

which one

[fallen sky]

among us being nominated reminds me of albums getting grammy noms when they've already been out for a year

[modest sorrel]

Mario party series my dude

[mortal siren]

mario party is battle royale?

[modest sorrel]

Its minigames literally are same parlour thing

[fiery cobalt]

I'm write my list 1 min

[fast trout]

Fall Guys is pretty fun, and I'd vote for it over Among Us purely because Among Us is a much older game. -shrugs-

[modest sorrel]

But not 100players

[wraith cradle]

And As I said the fact AU wasnt nominated to best ONGOING game where ot would make sense is a joke

[mortal siren]

yea then fall guys is a bigger scale mario party

[modest sorrel]

Yes but

[wraith cradle]

Mario party is for friends, Fall guys to randos

[modest sorrel]

You dont party with 100players

[mortal siren]

?

what

[wraith cradle]

Mario Party s the second best Friendship Breaker after monopoly lmao

[modest sorrel]

My dude im just trying to say that mario party has lots of minigames in it and is a 4 player party game

But for fall guys you can only party with 4 people to play the same game with others

[mortal siren]

then saying fall guys is bad just bcoz?

[thorn kindle]

Mario Kart breaks more friendships than Mario Party

[modest sorrel]

Its because i don't think its worth its money

[thorn kindle]

I'm sorry but blue shell me and we done

[fast trout]

I'm... don't talk to me about Mario Kart >.>

[modest sorrel]

Just for a parkour minigame thats pretty dumb

[fast trout]

xDD

[mortal siren]

i still dont get your sentiment

[modest sorrel]

Its alright bro

We can atleast agree on hades

Being best indie

[fallen sky]

my favourite part about mario kart is not understanding how it works and still winning

[modest sorrel]

What would you guys say about best indie of decade

[fiery cobalt]

Goty: Ghost
Direction: Ghost/Alyx
Narrative: Ghost/Tlou
Art: Ori/Ghost
Score: Ori
Audio: Tlou
Performance: Tlou
Indie: Hades
Action: Doom/Hades

[mortal siren]

hard to know, bczo indies tend to sink into obscurity

[fiery cobalt]

That's al I'm lsiting cuz most of the rest I'm not big on deciding

[fallen sky]

2010 decade?

[thorn kindle]

my favorite part is fully understanding how it works and losing to someone who has no idea what they're doing lol

[modest sorrel]

2010-2020

[fiery cobalt]

Hollow Knight

[modest sorrel]

Happened to me

[fiery cobalt]

No question

[wraith cradle]

Ok, lets everyone do it and lets laugh later and how wrong we wre

[fallen sky]

accurately represents me not knowing anything abt e-sports

[modest sorrel]

Yeah hollow knight is best fir me too

[mortal siren]

TLOU2 got the most critique on its narrative, even by critics so i dont think it will win

[fiery cobalt]

I play Dota. Dota had no representation this year. So meh

[fiery cobalt]

TLOU2 had the highest critic score pre-relase of almsot any game iirc

[dire condor]

hmm
fnaf, undertale, hollow knight, hades, terraria

[thorn kindle]

it's outdated now but I think undertale had the biggest influence

[fast trout]

Undertale and Hades for me.

[fallen sky]

😭 whenever i play mario kart, it's at the arcade, so at least i can treat the loser with an alcoholic thickshake afterwards...

[fiery cobalt]

Undertale is up there with HK, I'd agree, but HK>>> for me personally

[fallen sky]

solid. i respect that

[dire condor]

Stanley parable, edin finch

[modest sorrel]

Undertale was great until i met with its fandom

[fast trout]

Hollow Knight is lower than UT and Hades for me, but only just.

[thorn kindle]

Stanley parable is hilarious but best of the decade? lol

[mortal siren]

remains of edith finch is phenomenal yes

[fiery cobalt]

Yeah. 3000+ hours in dota. No big tournament this year though

[modest sorrel]

I mean you dont have to worship a game if you liked it

[fiery cobalt]

Okay lowkey. I played Edith Finch. Super cool, super unique. Didn't love it though

Currently making my way through Disco Elysium

[fallen sky]

i like to imagine that one day i will have the ability to buy hollow knight. in the mean time, i shall continue to buy games on steam that i barely know anything about

[fast trout]

Ugh... I still need to beat Nightmare Grimm in Hollow Knight.

[dire condor]

Starbound if the devs tried not to make it vlasted space terraria gosh froggin darn

[fiery cobalt]

I've quit HK at this point

[thorn kindle]

honestly my unpopular indie opinion us that Celeste was only an ok platformer

[modest sorrel]

Good luck with that

[fiery cobalt]

It will forever remain as one of my most precious gaming experiences and I don't want to taint it by trying too much at NKG, Radiance, or Pantheons

[modest sorrel]

I spent hours on that

[mortal siren]

remains of edith finch really brought the attention on glorifying and romanticizing self indulgence of tragic events

[fiery cobalt]

Oh. Gris is also up there fdor me, though whether I'd call it "Indie" I'm unsure

[thorn kindle]

I've never heard of Edith finch is it really that good?

[modest sorrel]

I quitted when they released godseeker

[fast trout]

Never played Edith Finch.

[fiery cobalt]

Edith Finch is weird

[fast trout]

I refuse to quit HK... but I am on an extended break.

[mortal siren]

it isnt weird, its an interactive storybook

[modest sorrel]

The atmosphere in hk was un-earthly

[fiery cobalt]

It's a 4-8 hour (I forget) walking simulator where you experience the stories of dead family members, and the "curse" that led all of them to their demise

[thorn kindle]

I took a 6 month break from animal crossing and just started playing again 😂

[mortal siren]

you missed the point, there is no curse

[fiery cobalt]

It's an interactive story book. That's better

I'm aware that there's no curse alpha

[dire condor]

brotha that's like half the game, but respects

[modest sorrel]

Im now playing witcher3

And damn its great

[fiery cobalt]

but the game talks about it as a curse, and if someone hasn't palye dit yet, I'm not trying to give that away

it's kind of a major plot point

[thorn kindle]

that sounds like spiritfarer without the cute

[fiery cobalt]

Witcher 3 my faovite game of all time

bar none

Play the dlcs and do all the side quests

[modest sorrel]

Im at skellige

[fiery cobalt]

you won't regret it I promsie

[modest sorrel]

And holy sht dude

[fiery cobalt]

Main game, then Hearts of Stone, then Blood and Wine, in that order

[fast trout]

I hate Witcher 3. I really do. It's a great game, but subjective dislikes make me wanna tear Geralt to shreds.

[thorn kindle]

witcher 3 is a great game honestly I can't fault u for that choice

[modest sorrel]

The world is amazing

[fast trout]

Objectively a great game though.

[fiery cobalt]

understandbale

Alpha boutta lecture me about edith finch's story

[mortal siren]

what interesting is how excellently it shows the narrative in the first person view point excellently, especially lewis finch story

[fiery cobalt]

I don't remember most of their names ngl. outside of fishimagination man

[fast trout]

I was very glad Witcher 3 beat Fallout 4. Bethesda were SO freaking arrogant around that time.

[mortal siren]

witcher 3 is too long for its own sake, many people i know dont even finish it

[thorn kindle]

witcher 3 isn't even as long as Hades tho

[fiery cobalt]

I personally don't think gunning through just the main story takes that long

[thorn kindle]

if ur going to the epilogue

[fiery cobalt]

I tend to play open world games and play the side quests depending on how much I enjoy them

[mortal siren]

technically, hades is very short then

[wraith cradle]

Goty Ghost
Game Direction Ghost
E-Sports CSGO
Mobile Game Genshin
Indie Hades
Narrative Hades
Score DOOM
Art Direction Ori
Action game: DOOM
Social Impact: Tell me Why
Sports: FIFA
Strategy: CKIII
Family game: Animal Crossing
Fighting Game: MK11
RPG: Yakuza
Action Adventure: Valhalla
Accessibility: TLOU2
VR:Alyx
Ongoing Game: NMS
Best MP: Animal Crossing
Performance Ashley Johnson
Athlete: I know nothing about it
Content creator: Ditto

[dire condor]

Ehh that depends, besides very different

[junior crown]

know I am very very off topic

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but cool beans

[fiery cobalt]

and I'll say that after doing all of the main story, side quests, dlcs, treasure hunts (most), and contracts, I've ammassed up to 150 hours in a single playthrough because I loved it

[mortal siren]

the mobile game im 50/50 about since i know ppl who liked CODM and Genshin equally

yea RPG shall go to yakuza

[wraith cradle]

God that was exhausting to write

[fast trout]

I will vote for anything not Genshin at this point. I have seen at least two friends DEVOURED.

[mortal siren]

action adventure just felt so bland

[eager hamlet]

Given that RPG has no actually good choices, even a gimped Yakuza might win

[fiery cobalt]

Albino I'm gonna disagree strongly regarding narrative and exclusively narrative

[eager hamlet]

I guess TOCS4 is too niche

[thorn kindle]

gacha games aren't real games and honestly shouldn't be classified as such

[mortal siren]

i personally agree with the narrative

[thorn kindle]

I say this as someone who has played >40 gacha games

[fiery cobalt]

I'm also going to disagree slightly on Performance and Score

[eager hamlet]

Although

Actually Id go for FF7R over Yakuza

[fiery cobalt]

I think Hades' narrative is good, and I'll take the hit that I've only reached (SPoielr?)||Persephone|| like up to four times

[eager hamlet]

Odd to choose MK11 for fighting game though

Thats literally what I would consider the very last pick

[fiery cobalt]

but I don't think it's as strong as tlou2 or even ghost

[eager hamlet]

By a pretty wide margin

[thorn kindle]

FF7R doesn't deserve the trash it gets from the fanboys of the original

[fast trout]

I wouldn't give anything to FFVIIR. I am a sulky lapsed S-E fan though.

[mortal siren]

i dont think its a gimped yakuza, its a JRPG yakuza but its not rly gimped per se

[wraith cradle]

This is more about who will win and Ashley has a strong showing behind

[eager hamlet]

I mean it already was a JRPG

Its a turn-based Yakuza

[fiery cobalt]

I think Larua Bailey outshone Ashley Johnson, Objectively

[eager hamlet]

And given that were talking about Yakuza

[thorn kindle]

FF7R was a great game like I really enjoyed playing it

[eager hamlet]

I would consider that gimped

FF7R wasnt anything special

[fiery cobalt]

Personally, Ashley Johnson's Character got gimped 3 hours into the story

[eager hamlet]

But it was good

Questionable plot, though

At least at the end

Fighting game should be UNICLR, will probably be SFV

[fiery cobalt]

She peaked in emotion after 3 hours and became a 1 dimension rage machine that never grewq or evolved up until a sudden transformation in the final scene

[wraith cradle]

Although I can smell both actresses splitting votes and giving one of the other 3 the win

[thorn kindle]

honestly I thought the plot was ok considering it's a series so things can be cleared up in the next game

[fast trout]

I felt that FFVIIR was... okay. Better than I thought it was gonna be. The narrative was weaker though, as it was largely an extended filler episode with some new weirdness tacked on at the end.

[eager hamlet]

I would say it doesnt feel like filler, as much as it doesnt feel rushed like it did before

My objection is pretty much entirely on the final plotline, and even there only potentially

Because it could still be a good plot

But I have my doubts

[fiery cobalt]

Winners are decided 90% by a jury of over 95 professionals and 10% by fan votes

[thorn kindle]

the thing that did bother me were the totally unnecessary minigames that just weren't fun

like I did not enjoy squats

[eager hamlet]

Eh, every JRPG has those

I mean hell, Yakuza is all about them minigames

[thorn kindle]

ya but they don't have to lol

or at least make them fun

[mortal siren]

the narrative on TLOU2 is pretty shallow anyways, but ppl is to stunned by the graphical prowess of the game i guess

[fast trout]

The introduction of a certain character so early in FFVIIR totally undermines the exceedingly clever way he was introduced with gameplay in the original.

[eager hamlet]

That I can agree with

[thorn kindle]

I think it's fine if u take it separately from the original

[fast trout]

I don't think FFVIIR was particularly bad though just... okay.

[wraith cradle]

Narrative was I being enthralled by the masterfully way deaths and repeated attempts were included on the plot

[junior crown]

"You still own me a pizza"

[eager hamlet]

Said character arrives way too early even ignoring the old game

Because he basically undermines the moment to moment plot

[fiery cobalt]

I don';t think it's really that shallow, but it's far from the narrative masterpiece the stans claim it is

[eager hamlet]

Its like

[fast trout]

And as a narrative on its own, it's weak because it's so startlingly, intentionally unfinished.

[fiery cobalt]

it is ALSO far from the narative nightmare haters claim it is

[eager hamlet]

"None of this really matters, we're gonna fight that guy in the end anyway"

[thorn kindle]

it's unfinished bc there's gonna be a part 2 tho

which imo makes it fine

[fiery cobalt]

The narrative for TLOU2 was powerful in its ability to mke you feel emotion, make you uncomfortable. It was for the most part an alright story, hinging on great at moments but nothing more, but it's neither masterpiece nor nightmare, just powerful

[eager hamlet]

I dont actually mind the narrative being unfinished

[fast trout]

A 'Part Whatever' should still be powerful/engaging in its own right.

Plenty of people came to The Witcher 3 without touching 1 or 2 and got a lot out of it.

[fiery cobalt]

^me

[thorn kindle]

I mean that's a question for part 2 tho

can someone jump into part 2 without having played part 1

[eager hamlet]

Id argue Witcher doesnt quite go for the episodic narrative

[fiery cobalt]

I played the witcher now I want to shadow someone at CDPR, become a game dev/programmer/qa tester(maybe), am unbelievably hyped for the fabled cybperunk, and bought the first 2 witcher books and I hate reading

[thorn kindle]

which we can't answer

[eager hamlet]

Like, TOCS4 is my favourite JRPG this year

[fiery cobalt]

Witcher 3 touches on witcher 2's story iirc

[thorn kindle]

the witcher also had books

[eager hamlet]

You should absolutely not play it without the other 3

[fiery cobalt]

But it'

[eager hamlet]

A narrative told over multiple games with direct connections is fine

[wraith cradle]

In any case my die is cast. I'm dying to see how horribly wrong I am. If hades doesn't win anything you can tell Greg is my fault, I jinxed it

[eager hamlet]

But yeah I gotta say

[fiery cobalt]

I genuinely think Hades will win narrative and has a shot at score and art design

[mortal siren]

the problem is, its full ludonarrative dissonance, and the choices that are given in the players are really none, while the plot pacing is also inconsistent and going for cheap tactics such as "look guys, she loves animals, she not very bad after all", and "look guys she kills aniamsl, she very bad".

[eager hamlet]

This year was not very interesting

[fast trout]

FFVIIR is just... okay. It's not special. The OG was special (although a lot of that absolutely did have to do with the timeframe in which it released and the insane luck the team had). Gaming has moved on rather a lot since the mid-late 90s, and that does take a lot of the shine of FFVIIR.

[thorn kindle]

I think Hades deserves score tbh

[eager hamlet]

I hesitate to even count Hades because it was in early access

TOCS4 was good, especially because it turns out I didnt spoil myself on it

[wraith cradle]

Anyone here here played tell me why?

[fiery cobalt]

someone read some articles. Love that ludonarrative dissonance line. I completely disagree with the "she loves animals" and "she kilsls animals" being cheap tactics. I don't think any characterization was hamfisted (for the most part). I don't think plot pacing was inconsistent outside of a poor understanding of properly utilizing rising action and a plot narrative curve

[wraith cradle]

It happens something close

[fast trout]

I'd give DOOM score because that's some crazy innovation. Hades does get my narrative nod though. I love how the gameplay is worked into the narrative so well. In a freaking roguelike. That's a genre gamechanger for me.

[fiery cobalt]

It's far from a victim of ludonarrative dissonance in the way that Uncharted games are

Doom's score has an issue

[mortal siren]

its cheap tactics bcoz its humanizing someone with external "characters", like having a villain BUT he have a family @fiery cobalt

[wraith cradle]

The protagonist hates hunting because he hates animals getting hurt but he has fishing like a hobby

And I'm like m8

[fiery cobalt]

Here's my take on score. Doom's score is messy because off how it was thrown together (Mick Gordon Id Drama, not geting into it). BWhile it's great, it's too similar to Doom 2016's

The mix is a bit off in a lot of levels compared to 2016's

[wraith cradle]

Yeah 2016 Doom score blew me apart

[fiery cobalt]

Compare that to how Ori WOTW made an excellent use of taking BF's themes, and transforming them into something bigger

[wraith cradle]

Not literally

[mortal siren]

wait what articles have ludonarrative dissonance line

[fast trout]

I haven't played Ori, Sttardustt. It may well be better, but I can't judge that.

[fiery cobalt]

I'm taking a music in video games class right now, and I cannot stress enough how well Gareth Coker used the themes from Blind Forest to evoke emotion and nostalgia in Will of the Wisps, while also making its identity completely unique

[fast trout]

So based on what I have played, I gave the nod to Doom. I should probably play Ori though...

[fiery cobalt]

Without spoiling too much, there's an escape scene in the first game where you escape from a big owl. It's the climactic point in the game. It has a track called "Fleeing Kuro"

In Will of the Wisps, the climactic fight is against a different owl, it's track is "Shriek and Ori"

They share the exact same underlying theme and base point

But Shriek and Ori takes all the musical themes from the first one and makes them bigger, grander, more powerful

it's honestly a phenomanl OST all around, but I'm rambling

https://www.google.com/search?q=Thje+last+of+us+2+ludonarrative+dissonance&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS800US800&oq=Thje+last+of+us+2+ludonarrative+dissonance&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i13i457.9206j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 @mortal siren

[fast trout]

... I wanna play it. >.>

[fiery cobalt]

It's incredible Stranger. Do it. I'll say no morte about the games

[mortal siren]

i enver read that for sure @fiery cobalt

[fiery cobalt]

alright Alpha. I believe you

No sarcasm, promise

maybe we just had differnt experiences, that's okay

[wraith cradle]

ORI 2 spoilers ||Few games had made me pity a villains death more than Ori 2||

[mortal siren]

and having your character killing hundreds of people for a game that sending the very opposite message is pretty ironic

[fast trout]

I WANT TO CLICK THE BOX.

[wraith cradle]

Tomb raider reboot was a classic example

[fast trout]

I am resisting with my whole heart.

[fiery cobalt]

gotta dip for a bit

[mortal siren]

never played ORi personally, maybe i just turned off by the graphics

[wraith cradle]

The inexperienced Lara curbstomping hundreds of russian mercenaries but then always looking sqeuaky to death after the 1000th enemy wave

[fast trout]

The first has been on my wishlist for a while. I keep getting distracted.

[wraith cradle]

Same as Uncharted

[mortal siren]

and some godfall reviews that comes out today compares it to anthem for some reason

[fast trout]

Clickbait? People love a good failure, and Anthem was pretty... errr... that.

[mortal siren]

i dont even think godfall got any attention tbh

its just look bland for some reason

[wraith cradle]

Mass Effect died for this

[junior crown]

and Dragon Age got kicked in more for this

[fast trout]

That whole 'Bioware Magic' thing was a ticking time bomb.

[mortal siren]

i think im the only one who never played dragon age and kotor b4

[fast trout]

Never bothered with KOTOR, as anything Star Wars outside the Original Trilogy has not been a great experience for me. I liked Dragon Age though.

[junior crown]

though really, ME3 was a good game, even the dlcs, just the ending made it stale for most.

[eager hamlet]

Kinda wish TOCS4 was nominated for RPG category tbh

[fast trout]

Bioware making lofty promises about ME3's ending soured a lot of people on the company when they were at a particularly shaky point PR-wise. (the TORtanic).

[wraith cradle]

God I wish The Pathless gets a nom next year

[fast trout]

I haven't looked through too many of next year's releases. A lot has been pushed back this year and I expect that to be true next year, with the virus still around.

My only speculation atm is that Darkest Dungeon 2 will get on the indie lists, and Capcom's games (RE Village and MH:Rise) will get action noms.

[eager hamlet]

I swear if Ys IX wont get nominated next year

[fiery cobalt]

im super excited to play the pathless

[hybrid jetty]

DD2 is releasing in early access so it'll be ~2022 before it gets anything

[weary jackal]

i've been playin hollow knight again and like

when is hornet game gonna come out.

[fiery cobalt]

Silksong?

No one knows

[weary jackal]

i need it

I gotta beat up more bugs

i got the blood lust

bug lust...wait no that's something else

[fiery cobalt]

Bug lust

[fallen sky]

u_u nevermind the studio that is making hk is in Adelaide, which is facing its own covid crisis

[wraith cradle]

I'm fearing I'll get dissapointed with DD2

Like it ends being the first one but prettier

[dire condor]

According to Leth covid didn't really affect them

[rancid cove]

just beat miles morales
robust 9/10
yes i'm taking a full point off for (MAJOR ENDING SPOILERS) ||phin dying||

[brave blaze]

I defeated giygas last night and today I brought persephone to the darkness and collected about 15 shine sprites. I'm productive as hell.

[junior crown]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mcleodgaming/fraymakers-the-infinitely-replayable-indie-platform-fighter?utm_source=mgtwit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fmksbegin&ref=ztw48b nice

[hollow oak]

@junior crown This is interesting

One of the main issues Smash bros has is its inability to focus on either 1v1 or party game mechanics

The huge roster does not help much either, as the game gets harder to balance...

Nontheless, i always love to support fighting game developers

[zealous fossil]

Can we get Red into this game

[wraith cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slAhuh21ii8

This came out of nowhere lol

[rancid cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495708661902213131/778895065460244510/EnK7A1WVcAEPVvc.png

and yes

they're lesbiabs

[hybrid jetty]

james bond game by IO could be really good actually

[rancid cove]

o hey, Elite Dangerous is free on egs

[atomic lynx]

I need to play some FFXIV again

Not because of the lesbians, although I'm sure they're great. I havent' visited the game since before they added flight to ARR areas

[wraith cradle]

IOI has agreat track record so I think its gonna be promising

[rancid cove]

i mean the lesbiabs have been in since early this year

[atomic lynx]

Why are you saying lesbiabs

[rancid cove]

why arent you

[atomic lynx]

Is there a joke or reference I'm missing

IDK

[wraith cradle]

B and n are next to each other

[atomic lynx]

Intentional typo for a lul?

My pea brain confused

[rancid cove]

https://i.redd.it/g8bbsur9oo931.jpg

[atomic lynx]

LMFAOOOOOO

"It's okay take your time"

I see, I was not familiar with that meme

[steep wigeon]

hey guys

[atomic lynx]

Hey my dude 🙂

[wraith cradle]

Is a lesbiab who hates being in her house HomePhobic?

[steep wigeon]

i accidently deleted one file in game folder

it was named like

Discord dll or smth

[atomic lynx]

I have no idea, Albino. You're asking the real questions

[steep wigeon]

could someone send it to me please?

[wraith cradle]

I need help

How do you spell Pragnent?

[atomic lynx]

This guy is a riot

He should get his own stand up show or something

[steep wigeon]

[wraith cradle]

That's a VERY famous video tho

[steep wigeon]

so uhh

no help i guess

[atomic lynx]

What do you need help with

[steep wigeon]

i accidently deleted one file in game folder
it was named like
Discord dll or smth

i assume u all already

have this game

[atomic lynx]

In your Hades installation folder?

[steep wigeon]

so i would be grateful if anyone could

copy it and send to me

nah not the

installation

[rancid cove]

#h1-tech-support

[steep wigeon]

in already installed game folder

[steep wigeon]

and?

not sure anyone is there

[atomic lynx]

How did you manage to delete that file in particular

[steep wigeon]

ahah

so when i try to stream it on

discord it lags so much

and idk why cuz game itself

[atomic lynx]

discord_game_sdk.dll?

[steep wigeon]

doesn't lag at all

yeah yeah

that one

[rancid cove]

have u tried reinstalling it

[steep wigeon]

so i kinda tried to handle it myself

[atomic lynx]

I think it lags on discord because of your internet

[steep wigeon]

why do i reinstall it if i can download just one file

[atomic lynx]

Your PC is good but perhaps your connection is not good enough to stream without lag

[rancid cove]

the dll stands for dynamic linked library, you can't just drop the file in, it's hooked up by the installation process

[steep wigeon]

and everything will work again

yeah yeah ive done it million times

[steep wigeon]

thats the point

idk why is it happening

every other game is perfect

[atomic lynx]

Plus when you're streaming a game, that adds more duress on your graphic card

Particularly if you stream at 1980x1080

[rancid cove]

because that definitely fixes the problem without junking up a channel other than the one meant for supporting issues with the game in question? like

[steep wigeon]

sorry for writing couple messages in your dead ass chat

[rancid cove]

there was literally a conversation happening when you barged into the general video games chat instead of #h1-tech-support OR #h1-tech-fixes

and again: reinstalling is guaranteed to fix the issue

[steep wigeon]

like i skipped a cutscene or smth

[rancid cove]

go away.

[steep wigeon]

they can still talk about it

default discord mod)

[atomic lynx]

I don't think you should've been that rude to the poor feller

There are people new to both this server and discord in general, all the different channel stuff doesn't make sense unless you're already inundated in discord

[rancid cove]

https://youtu.be/KKkS7IGIRpM

[wraith cradle]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/878670/Shenmue_III/

Steam

Shenmue III

The brainchild of award-winning game director, Yu Suzuki, Shenmue is commonly known as one of the most ambitious game projects in history, which captured the imagination of players from around the world. Shenmue established the open-world format for action RPG games. An awe-in...

Price

$16.99

Metacritic

69

▶ Play video

Lol that price

[rancid cove]

it boggles my mind that that game even exists

like, the first one was bold and innovative, the second failed to learn from the fact that the first was bad in spite of being bold and innovative, and then SEVERAL TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE put forth funds to make a third of the exact same thing but shinier

[wraith cradle]

I genuinely know 0 about the franchise

[rancid cove]

give run button 6 bucks on patreon and watch their LP of shenmue 1

that's the ideal experience

[wraith cradle]

Who?

[rancid cove]

run button

best LPers on utub

[wraith cradle]

I'm gonna say what I said back in May. Play The World Next Door. It's quite worth the experience

[rancid cove]

i grabbed it on egs today free, i'll get to it eventually

[weary jackal]

whelp I have done the greatest thing known to mankind

and you guys dont get to hear what it was

maybe

i beat an easy boss on hard mode without getting hit in HK

[brave blaze]

Super Mario Sunshine is even worse than I remember. It's the worst game of all time. It needs to die. It needs to go to hell and die.

[rancid cove]

run button also has a LP of sunshine! they agree, it's awful

[brave blaze]

I hadn't played it since I was 11 when it came out. I thought I just sucked as a kid. But no, the game is a rushed mess.

One slip and you gotta spend 5 mins climbing back to where you were... so tedious and poorly designed. Shows how much of a mess nintendo was when the gamecube was flopping and they rushed it for a holiday release.

I'd only recommend playing it on dolphin, and scum saving your way through the BS parts.

[rancid cove]

https://twitter.com/thetojodojo/status/1329572412699054081?s=19

The Tojo Dojo-Yakuza News (@thetojodojo)

NEWS: Nagoshi Confirm’s Yakuza: Like a Dragon Became An RPG After The Positive Reaction To The April Fools’ Video

“It was something only made for April Fools’ Day. It was still an action game at the time. From there, the video was positively received”

https://t.co/njsWGu6jTD

Retweets

118

Likes

495

Twitter · Nov 19, 2020, 11:49 PM

[wraith cradle]

lol

[rancid cove]

i cannot stress enough how much this is the best jrpg since at least xenochron 2, maybe longer

and they effectively made it on a dare

im suddenly terrified of sega

[wraith cradle]

You think it will win Best RPG in TGA?

[rancid cove]

will? no

should? yes

[wraith cradle]

Well, the competition isn't that stiff

GI doubt it wins

[rancid cove]

it'll be either genshin or 7r, because ultimately way more people play those than are gonna play y7

[eager hamlet]

That is a very bold claim that I cant agree with

There have been a lot of better jrpgs since then

[dire condor]

Well, just by virtue of 7 coming out early in the year and the publicity around the name means it's going to be a shoe-in for a lot of awards.

[eager hamlet]

Crosscode, TOCS1-4, Ys VIII

[dire condor]

Don't get me wrong, not saying that 7R is actually the best game of the year, but people are gonna see that cover and just mash the button without thinking.

[eager hamlet]

I mean, honestly?

It has a good case

[dire condor]

Also yes!

[eager hamlet]

P5R shouldn't count since an expansion

[dire condor]

It was a good game, which is a good thing. Better a good-if-not-the-best game gets that recognition than something that is just clearly inferior to the competition.

[eager hamlet]

Genshin I'm not sure really qualifies as an RPG

[dire condor]

God, GTAV winning awards for 3 years straight was a travesty and I hate award shows.

[eager hamlet]

I don't know about wasteland 3

And I have a lot of gripes with Yakuza

Yeah

Smaller rpg devs just don't get nominated

Even Falcom doesn't

[dire condor]

Kinda why I'm hoping the next SGG is an RPG.

[eager hamlet]

Last years rpg category was a pleasant surprise

Because Disco Elysium was nominated and won

[ancient lagoon]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0tdz4CIXht06vFBs49mIu3?si=2S3DP4aUS1iiwkRh_H17XA
while I congratulate Supergiant for getting nominated, there were games I didn't see that I felt were Deserving of being Nominated.
so I've made a Spotify list of games that AREN'T Nominees for Indie game of 2020 for the game awards

[wraith cradle]

It's technically speaking an Action RPG with Gacha elements

[rancid cove]

the trouble with categorizing RPGs these days is that damn near every major release has "RPG elements" anymore

hell, MILES MORALES has rpg elements

[eager hamlet]

Kinda, yeah

[wraith cradle]

Reminds me to this

https://i.redd.it/97j1adnr7uz31.png

[eager hamlet]

Eh, neither turn based nor class system are necessary

[rancid cove]

it seems these days that "stats go up" is the only hard req

[eager hamlet]

Well, no

Linear progression, gear tied to exploration and consumables are the standard

[mellow linden]

if it feels like an rpg, it probably is

[fast trout]

At this point, it's just a marketing term xDD

[candid wigeon]

Everything is Dark Souls

[dire condor]

yeah, there's not much character building or having choice in the outcome of the plot

[dire condor]

just like HK🤪

[wraith cradle]

Yeah I just finished another interesting 'Souls-Like'

DS3

||And with DS3 I mean Darksiders 3||

[candid wigeon]

Yayness

Enjoyed it?

[round steeple]

Are we really calling darksiders a souls like?

I guess at this point there should be a chart like the rpg one above but for souls games

[candid wigeon]

r/whoosh

[rancid cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509725105040130058/779410190025490453/unknown.png

[wraith cradle]

Darksiders 3 (NOT the other 2) absolutely has been influenced by Dark Souls

[rancid cove]

darksiders 1 is a zelda game, structurally

[wraith cradle]

It Has: Hard to kill enemies, a protagonist that lasts 5 hits of even the most basic enemy, avoiding damage with the invincibility frames, a reusable healing item like Estus, save points you can teleport between, Automatic saves, collecting frigging souls from dead enemies to spend on the shop and leveling and upgrading equipment being the main way of becoming stronger.

Also you just reminded me to one of my favourite images of the Internet

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/376/970/59a

[fast trout]

An awful lot of those features (iframe dodging/evasion, fast travel save points, automatic saves, upgrading equipment etc.) predate Dark Souls.

For instance, Monster Hunter has all the ones I mentioned, minus automatic saves but plus boss monster-centric. The first MH came out seven years before Dark Souls. Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden also tick a lot of similar boxes.

[wraith cradle]

Look I don't know how to describe it

But the game FEELS like a Dark Souls

[dire condor]

Stranger is right, I think.

The only true FromSoft action RPG trope they coded is the droppable souls as EXP/currency.

Oh, and the Estus.

That it has those two is pretty big.

But yeah, fast travel and difficult combat do not a Souls game make.

[wraith cradle]

DS3 has both

[dire condor]

"That is has those two are pretty big."

[wraith cradle]

Oh sorry I misunderstood

[dire condor]

I'll never understand why the franchise took off like it did.

I hated 1 and 2. Put 30 hours in across the two and could not get into it. Loved Bloodborne, though.

[round steeple]

It's an obtuse game but it's a factual masterpiece in game design

[wraith cradle]

Oh lol I thought you were talking about Darksiders for a sec there

[dire condor]

Ooohh, no.

People keep saying that, Kabyk, can you explain what that means a little?

I should finish Darksiders 1 at some point. I've got the Warmastered and Deathinitive Editions of 1 and 2.

[rancid cove]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=game+makers+tool+kit+dark+souls

this dude's the best at explaining game design concepts

[round steeple]

That should help. I cant explain it in a few short sentences

[rancid cove]

the thing i'd add that i don't think GMTK covers is that fromsoft has the best environmental artists in AAA

the games just look incredibly cool

[round steeple]

But the most obvious is world design. Realistic interconnections as well as perfect pitch highs and lows in terms of safety zones

Uh

Sense of progress is natural and rewarding. No bulls**t since it's always your fault

[fast trout]

Dark Souls took off because it was a very difficult game and because it had a lot of obtuse lore to dig into. It's the Ultimate Elitist game.

[dire condor]

I've always thought Dark Souls leaned very heavily into "We're going to have 16 ambushes down this path and it's up to the player to memorize all the positions."

Which, hey, they are all exactly the same every time.

[round steeple]

It's not a shmup

[dire condor]

So there is learning that sequence.

[fast trout]

I actually like the games a lot, but it definitely had a niche.

[dire condor]

No, but shoot-em-ups aren't the only game that attracts elitists.

Oh, you meant that sometimes they have effectively RNG?

[round steeple]

But yes it does have the trial and error

[fast trout]

And yeah, DS1 has a lot of 'SURPRISE' elements where the difficulty was simply down to not knowing where an enemy was.

[round steeple]

The lore is a big deal. Since you're not spoonfed anything, finding stuff yourself is rewarding

Exploration has value because of that

[fast trout]

But that too attracts a certain kind of elitist 'you just don't understand the depth' gamer.

[dire condor]

I feel like that exploration gets shunted to the wayside a lot by imitators.

[round steeple]

Yes it does

[dire condor]

Hollow Knight leaned into exploration and it really showed how much of strong point it can be.

[fast trout]

Hollow Knight is a Metroidvania though.

[dire condor]

I don't think Soulslike is a real "genre".

But for the purposes of discussion it can be useful to think of it as one.

[round steeple]

The reality is that the difficult of souls is more of a supportive structure to what the game is really about. In that regard the marketing of the game is pretty wrong

[dire condor]

They're action RPGs with focus on combat and currency management.

In Mass Effect you had to juggle your inventory, in Dark Souls you had to juggle Souls.

[fast trout]

Soulslike is as much of a genre as anything else in the gaming industry. At this point, everything is marketing and 'Soulslike' tells a potential customer what they can expect. More than something like 'RPG' does these days.

[dire condor]

It's become very Call-of-Duty, hasn't it?

[fast trout]

I remember the first DMC game was marketed as 'Stylish Hard Action'. Nowadays people are arguing about the concept of a 'Character Action' genre. -shrugs-

[rancid cove]

cawadoody has like 4 colors

soulsians have more

[dire condor]

Bloodborne is mostly black and red.

[rancid cove]

except bloodborne, which is almost monochrome

[round steeple]

Wtf is character action. Lol

[rancid cove]

bayonetta

dmc

[dire condor]

Black Ops 3 was an ugly game inside and out but it did have a very wide palette. Maybe the game's only saving feature.

[rancid cove]

sekiro

[dire condor]

I need to play Sekiro, still.

[rancid cove]

it has my favorite final boss fight of all time

[dire condor]

I was actually just looking at "Stylish Action" on TVTropes.

A game wherein you take a single character and moveset and hone the absolute bejeezus out of your skills.

[fast trout]

Yeah, basically

[round steeple]

You mean the game where dialogue has never mattered before except for one choice that locks you out of 40% of the game? Goty

[wraith cradle]

Sekiro has both one of the best bosses and one of the worst they made by far

[fast trout]

I didn't like Sekiro as much as other Soulsborne games. I so rarely go for parry builds xD

[rancid cove]

tbh u can just mash the button in sekiro and have it work most of the time

worst case u block instead of parry

as opposed to the "main series" games, where u either get the parry or eat shirt

[fast trout]

True, it just didn't click the same way for me. Good game though, I've recommended it to a few people I've known would love it.

[hollow oak]

@dire condor Usually genres are more about what the consumer base knows than actual definition of the game

And tbh i don't get Hollow Knight

But point is

[wraith cradle]

It's weird how much it deviates Sekiro from DS and Bloodborne you would think it's a different company

Going blind you know what's the thing I was surprised the most about Sekiro?

[hollow oak]

Souls likes are an actual tag people use because we're in a time where the only way to create genres of games is by grabbing the first game that became "big"

[wraith cradle]

That the protagonist is an actual character with personality, motivation and character development

[hollow oak]

Like do you see every platformer get called "mario like"?

[wraith cradle]

Also that the plot is in fact pretty straightforward without any hidden meaning

[hollow oak]

I prefer Sekiro any time of day to dark souls

And i only played dark souls

[wraith cradle]

Dark Souls 1 has one the ugliest UI I've seen is so blurred and dirty

[hollow oak]

The best characters and stories are simple to see and comprehend, but take time to understand fully

A good main character also makes or breaks a gamr

Which DS lacks

As it's the generic "blank slate" thing

Imo blank slates only work in more traditional RPG games

[wraith cradle]

To be fair that's also because Dark Souls has multiplayer

And each piece of cloth is unique aesthetically

[hollow oak]

But a game can have a concrete character and customization

[rancid cove]

https://twitter.com/kotaku/status/1329559083691589640?s=21

Kotaku (@Kotaku)

In Case You Missed It, Reagan Was A Scumbag https://t.co/bkF1MIzrjq

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Twitter · Nov 19, 2020, 10:56 PM

[wraith cradle]

I actually found curious how two games I've played mixed both

The first game had an static character and the second a customizable one

And the second game had the first game protagonist as an NPC in game

[hollow oak]

Why is kotaku talking about Reagan tho

[wraith cradle]

Because Apparently The new CoD sanitizes him

For Example the main villain of Hand Of Fate 2 is the MC of HoF1

And the Surge 2 mission control is The Surge 1 MC

[hollow oak]

I love seeing the original MC return in the sequel if they aren't the main one

Well i have been debating A LOT on what makes a great MC

Since i'm trying to develop a game myself...

I've been planning and theorycrafting for some months, and i'd say i have a solid direction for gameplay matters

[rancid cove]

i wonder if there's a game i've played where the main character was my favorite character

mischief makers, maybe?

[wraith cradle]

Oh yeah there was Nexomon too

Nexomon has unironically 10x better plot that any Mainline Pokemon Game

[rancid cove]

that is extremely easy to do tbh

[hollow oak]

I mean

What about black/white

[wraith cradle]

Yeah but I was blown away how good the plot got at times

[hollow oak]

I liked it...

[wraith cradle]

Here is the thing in the first game you choose male/female trainer.

[hollow oak]

Also i unironically think black/white was the last good pokemon

[wraith cradle]

And supposing you gonna choose the same gender for the sequel, the male MC comes back if you chose the male MC of the sequel (He comes back as a middle aged looking ghost, tho)

The plot is basically 'What if Arceus, but evil?' and runs with it.

Then at the end of the sequel you discover ||YOU are in fact a Nexomon and you gain the capacity of go fighting yourself to battle, also you canon name is Solus||

[dire condor]

I adored Black and White.

Purely from how much I enjoyed the game itself Pokemon White is my favorite game in the series.

That was when I was getting into the competitive metagame and that is a dumpster fire on one of those sci-fi planets that's just literally a single garbage dump, but the story of Pokemon BW is impeccable.

Easily the best of the franchise, nothing comes even close.

[hollow oak]

Tep

Also, it ain't bad at all graphically

It has some amazing quality graphics for the DS era

As well as animated sprites for each pokemon

[dire condor]

Those were so good!

2D graphics is a dying art outside of the indie sphere and I hate it.

[hollow oak]

Also, this big thing

151 new pokemon

That alone showed the type of effort they put

They wanted to reignite what pokemon meant by pouring heart and soul

And achieved it

There are so many great things big n small

Like that city with a hand-shaped port

[dire condor]

USA USA USA USA /s

[hollow oak]

And the plasma boat is in the middle finger

Those details is why i love BW

They just put so much effort

Well anyway

I try to study to make games in the future

[wraith cradle]

Bruh I cannot believe they went with the ||Alternate Good Timeline|| route in the new Hyrule Warriors ||I was hoping to see some grimdark ending||

[dire condor]

What.

I shouldn't have clicked those spoilers.

But what.

||Why? The whole friggin' point of the game is to see the futility in the end knowing that it comes out alright in Breath of the Wild.||

I was gonna play.

Even after Nintendo CnDing The Big House 10 over using Slippi ("Nintendo cannot condone piracy") and all their garbage with their artificial shortages, I was gonna get it 'cause I love Dynasty Warriors and I think the BotW subsection of the Zelda universe is awesome.

But that's just... ||Heck.||

[hollow oak]

@dire condor No H word in this christian server

Well let's have a nicer topic then

Good Vibes™️

You hear about videogames?

[hybrid jetty]

oh come on I clicked those spoilers and now I'm ||beyond disappointed||

[weary jackal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfMs9QJMzQM

So im playing subnautica below zero and build the jukebox. After listening to the music for awhile I have to say.

It sounds like The Escapists music combined with FTL music

[rancid cove]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C30_Rz6UMAAkQF6?format=jpg&name=large

[weary jackal]

you fool. here is the list of what is politics

minorities
women
any mention of LGBT
politics that do not align with your own

Gamers for life am i right

[dire condor]

Yoko "I made Nier in response to the feelings 9/11 inspired in me" Taro doesn't make political games. Riiight.

[weary jackal]

9/11 checks zero of my boxes.

anyway im doing making fun of #Gamers. Back to what i was doing

[stable kindle]

diplomacy isnt politics 😭 i hope that person is okay after nearly 4 years

[rancid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-people-john-cleese-relatively-intelligent-very-stupid-gif-5339665

[fast trout]

'Diplomacy isn't politics' is... the fact that someone wrote that is gonna stick in my mind forever.

[rancid cove]

ur wacom

[fast trout]

... What does that person even think politics is, I wonder?

[rancid cove]

aw man, they took out the OPTION to quote? gdi

but yeah dusa nailed it

[fast trout]

My soul hurts.

[rancid cove]

2020 mood

[fallen sky]

imagine watching lotgh only to argue that diplomacy isn't political

[rancid cove]

god i didnt even register the icon

[rancid cove]

https://drukhari.tumblr.com/post/635365691729526784

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348297441973370880/779660121511952384/Street_Thugs.mp4

[wraith cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI7cBFCOJHY

God watching this after playing the game

[clear fulcrum]

@fading pewter I don't mean to imply that every case that a shield character is thrown in that it is a bad thing

just that, when they're done poorly, that's the big issue

personally, the thesus/asterius fight is awesome to me, but the shield boyos that lead up to them can be boring to deal with

in other games there's similar stuff - it all depends on how you go about dealing with them

[fading pewter]

Agreed, lets shake hands, the other shield boys can be annoying while ur being sniped by the bow men and dashed after by the long spears

[clear fulcrum]

lol

honest to god waiting mechanics are a very bad thing imo, when there's literally nothing you can do but wait

when you just need to approach it differently, that's one thing, but the issue is when something has a sign over its head that says "you cannot proceed until you wait this arbitrary amount of time"

[wraith cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/167450137138823168/779851070259855360/catv1gjjon061.png

Some people have too much imagination

[candid wigeon]

Gorgeous! ❤️

[zealous fossil]

who da artist

😳

[wraith cradle]

Oh right

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/mqoL9e

Source

[fast trout]

I agree for the most part. Timegating does have its role within some genres though--particularly MMOs and MMO-lites--in the form of things like weekly lockouts. I can see people doing nothing but the same raids over and over and over if they continued to receive the same rewards each time.

[wraith cradle]

My god

CP77 Leaked

You can't make this disaster up

[fast trout]

Hahahaha. This year. Man

[drifting robin]

huh

really?

what part?

[wraith cradle]

Physical copies were in the wild

[drifting robin]

wow

okay then

[wraith cradle]

And a guy posted the first 20 minutes

Now it has been systematically purged of the net

They are going full scorched earth on the leaks

[junior crown]

TLOU 2 leaks all over again it seems?

[hybrid jetty]

AAA game leaks aren't too uncommon

[fast trout]

Very true, but with all of Cyberpunk's highly public delays through the year, it is kind of hilarious.

[hybrid jetty]

if anything that indicates they won't delay it again

[monkey paw curls]

[fast trout]

They way this year has been, I have no clue.

[wraith cradle]

Or turns out the leak was one of the bad copies and the leaker gonna have his ps4 bricked because faulty code

[wraith cradle]

Anyone here played Fae Tactics?

[broken smelt]

@potent cave please do not self-promote outside of the #self-promotion channel ^_^

[potent cave]

oooh srry I didn't know this counts as self-promotion

Youtube is the only place I can host videos tho :<

[broken smelt]

What I mean is, #self-promotion the place to post the link to the stuff you've made, stream you're hosting, cover you've made etc. that's not supergiant related (as it'd go into #fan-works if it where supergiant related)

@potent cave

[potent cave]

ooooooh

kk!

[rancid cove]

https://youtu.be/jQNeYbBiCKw

[rancid cove]

https://youtu.be/-wdWh7ci6rM

[rancid cove]

https://phrenotobe.tumblr.com/post/635580627187613696/me-explaining-to-the-other-trainers-that-apricorns

[fair shell]

https://youtu.be/6bUU_58xrtc any other ex-emo kids?

[rancid cove]

i cannot belieb sho is playable

[fair shell]

ikr. i initially assumed he was an advertised boss

in general, a cult classic getting a sequel 13 yrs after its release... idk how that happened but i'll gladly take it!

[rancid cove]

oh i can tell you how

it's not twewy 2, it's kh4

[eager hamlet]

Im more confused how he is still alive

[fair shell]

look, do not question tetsuya canon

that stuff changes depending on his mood lmao

[wraith cradle]

There is a Who is on first joke on there?

Also Sho being playable was foreshadowed on the switch ending, that and that ||Neku|| is working with him

[round steeple]

My mind melts thinking how this is possible

I know an interviewer jokingly asked the director about the possibility of a twewy2 at e3 a couple years ago and he's like "lol no"

That said I'm very skeptical of gameplay. Generic action rpg combat is unbefitting of twewy

Since when did the switch version have extra content? I didnt know

[rancid cove]

i mean

the great tragedy of twewy is that none of the ports have even for a moment approached the level of perfection the original had

they'd have to restart 3ds production to make a worthy combat system for the sequel

[wraith cradle]

Let's be honest here

They totally brought Sho because he was the most popular and memorabke character

[rancid cove]

the switch port sold like actual garbage, so i maintain this is only getting made for the kh tie-in

[wraith cradle]

@round steeple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-wRRUkZeCoç

I'm 100% this was in development before the Switch port released

[rancid cove]

y'know what, actually

that would make more sense

it explains WHY they ported it to switch

[wraith cradle]

Wait. this epilogue came out 2 years ago? What have I been doing with my life?

[inland tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTvqsXWTlVY

Thanatos but hes in a zombie game and the face is pretty neat i guess

[fair shell]

anyways, i knew the twewy anime was advertising something big

but ya, i'm just beyond hyped

[round steeple]

Guess it makes sense now why the anime exists

Thought it was random

Welcome, but random

Mystery solved

@wraith cradle ah thanks bruh. Will watch it later.

[fair shell]

ya, no, animes are expensive and i was like... it would be too expensive for a port ad

[mellow linden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683149828141744276/780548802472968212/image0.jpg

😔

when a cult classic hit gets a sequel after over a decade and it's just compared to p5

[rancid cove]

apparently back in the day, the SMT game after twewy was accused of ripping it off

so this is just the circle of stupidity coming to completion

[wraith cradle]

Psst Tomb Raider?

YoU mEaN fEmAlE uNcHaRtEd??

[junior crown]

LISA? Heartbound? You mean Undertake like?

[wraith cradle]

In that case no new Lisa or Mother came after Undertale, tho

This is more like people don't realising a game in the franchise is older but less popular

[hollow oak]

Apparently no 2 games can have the same theme/setting

Lmao it's a really weird mentality

[wraith cradle]

I actually had a close discussion about it the other day

About how similiraties can be more than superficial

[hollow oak]

Yeah, like a game has more connection to surface elements than you'd think

They can be gameplay, narrative and story connections, for example

[wraith cradle]

People were calling Minecraft a Plagiarism of Infiniminer and I told them that MC was much more close to Dwarf Fortress than Infiniminer that it's so hilariously primitive that had less features than the second alpha of Minecraft.

Likee I'm not exaggerating

[hollow oak]

Comparing Dwarf Fortress to minecraft is a pretty accurate thing when you think about it

[wraith cradle]

DF and MC are very close games deep down

[hollow oak]

In the very core, that is

[wraith cradle]

Yeah

[hollow oak]

The approach is completely different, however

[wraith cradle]

I'm actually very excited for the new Steam Version

[hollow oak]

DF is a good, fun game

[wraith cradle]

I tried the og

[hollow oak]

But VERY hard to get into

[wraith cradle]

But my eyes just can't with it

[hollow oak]

Yeah, it's the curse of old school RPGs

They have a UI born out of limitations

[wraith cradle]

I hope the texture pack helps it getting mainstream popularity

Toady is a genius

[junior crown]

Oh yeah same. I wanna see how that goes. Since whenever I play RimWorld I pretty much don't go past the start game.

[hollow oak]

I play mostly CatDDA tho

[wraith cradle]

CatDDA?

[hollow oak]

Cataclysm

Dark Days Ahead

It's an open source RPG game with a post apocalyptic theme

The game's 2 main traits is how deep it is and how extremely hard it is

Just as an example, i have yet to live long enough to worry about starving to death

[wraith cradle]

Oh, Didn'tknow it

[hollow oak]

It's free, i highly reccomend it

[rancid cove]

https://twitter.com/mrdomino_/status/1331029964074827776?s=19

🎄 merry donmas 🎄 (@mrdomino_)

crazy that he couldn't beat the game in a single work week https://t.co/3yEwNUDqiM

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Twitter · Nov 24, 2020, 12:20 AM

[rancid token]

Bugsnax

Is incredible

[hollow oak]

@rancid token My boi Charlie told me so too

[solid nimbus]

If anyone here likes FNAF, Sanshee is back with the merch!!!

[wraith cradle]

https://www.twitch.tv/andersonjph/clip/AmazonianOnerousHamTriHard?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

Talking about Bugsnax

[junior crown]

Joe...
Honestly though this is funny as hell. I wonder if they will keep that in or change it lol.
And yes Bugsnax is great.

[round steeple]

I see there was 1 or 2 mentions here but... I just found out last week that 13 sentinels english has been out since like august. Nobody anywhere said anything. Saw no ads or people discussing on my other game servers. So weird.

[wraith cradle]

God Hitman 3 has me so so hyped

[green sun]

I found the leaked IGN review of Cyberpunk 2077

“9.5 out of 10, The shooting is too difficult, I feel as though you need auto aim to hit anything, the music has far too much synth and Night City is far too populated for a city. All in all it has something for everyone and makes you feel like a cyperpunk.”

[wraith cradle]

'The game made me miiserable. 9.5 cyberpunk'

[paper gull]

it has a lil something for everyone

[round steeple]

"has something for everyone"
"feels punk"
Pick one.

[brave blaze]

If a spooky man in a trench coat and ll bean backpack with his initials on it walked up to you on the street and said "I got super mario sunshine dlc, five bucks" what would you do?

[rancid cove]

how would you know they were his initials

[brave blaze]

Because it's illegal to carry the initials of a stranger

And nobody would cross that line not even a spooky dlc slinger

[rancid cove]

ok

id ask if the dlc will work after march

[brave blaze]

He repeatedly responds "it will be available until March 30" refusing to define "available"

He then shows you a video of his top 10 game boy peripherals