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fathom juniper
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i'm literally drowning in it

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yeah i always found pathologic interesting...
and scary

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like - it's fun to read about but i don't want to play it PES_Lul

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he says while playing freakin factorio of all things

rustic falcon
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1 is not scary at all
2 might be easier to get into on all accounts. It’s much more difficult gameplay wise but has sliders to adjust to how you wanna play

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You can make it a cakewalk or you can torture yourself with 200% more everything

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idk about 3. We will find out, it comes out in January

dense kindle
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just let it backup, its chill

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you will generally need a ton more iron to copper

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Most stuff needs iron, and there are a ton of iron-only recipes, but there's almost no copper-only recipes

fathom juniper
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i'm actually kinda proud of this build
for a starter base, that is
wires, chips and cogs - automated
all other intermediates - automated
belts, yellow inserters, underdoobers - automated
yellow ammo, red ammo, automatic refilling system - automated
bricks, walls, steel beams, solars, pipes, grenades, engine units and three types of science

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all automated inside this tiny little starter base
so now it's time to leave it all behind

dense kindle
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niiiice

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It's probably best to store at least one small chest of everything, including stuff like gears

fathom juniper
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this base is a bit of a mess - there's chests with random crap in them all over the place and i'm too lazy to tidy this up

dense kindle
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you just use it directly from your hotbar, not in the weapons slot

dense kindle
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bowling

fathom juniper
dense kindle
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get those repair kits out

fathom juniper
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naaah screw it
i'm leaving

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there's a 13m patch of iron to the west and i want to set up shop there

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i'm just gonna shove 16 v8 engines into my pockets so i could hand-build myself a car when bugs eat this one

dense kindle
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lol

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you can throw grenades out of your car

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very funny

fathom juniper
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can i de-forest a forest with grenades?

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hang on

dense kindle
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yes it's one of the best ways to do it

fathom juniper
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it works!

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man - greta thunberg must love this game lmao

dense kindle
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if you upgrade grenade damage it oneshots them

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and you can do it in a driveby, no less!

dense kindle
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"If the car is destroyed, its inventory is destroyed with it, though the player gets ejected and not killed."
-wiki

fathom juniper
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i'm in quite a pickle now

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far away from my base
i hand-made myself a car - sure
but i've got nothing to fuel it with cause all my fuel was in that old car

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and i'm surrounded by three nests with barely anything to fight them with
and one of them is hands down the biggest i've seen so far

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i think this save file is doomed

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i can't keep up the pace with biters

dense kindle
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I mean it's not like this game is permadeath

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minecraft rules

fathom juniper
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yeah but i feel like i'm really lagging behind

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and they're only gonna get stronger

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it was a learning experience
an extended tutorial

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still had fun though vacbot_happy

fathom juniper
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okay so i just started watching this

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what the f-

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it's like he's speaking a different language

dense kindle
# fathom juniper and they're only gonna get stronger

I personally don't really play with biters on because I don't like the pressure, but I hear they're not actually that bad if everything gets destroyed
You have a lot of resources to rebuild, and they don't aggress if pollution doesn't reach them(which it won't because everything got destroyed)

fathom juniper
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yeah but the thing is
evolution won't wait for you

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they're still getting stronger and destroying nests only speeds this up...
apparently

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along with pollution

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and the patches over at my starter base are runing dry

spice sentinel
fathom juniper
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"now i can make a rocket silo which is much harder than usual because i need to make concrete from a sushi belt"

austere wadi
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Rushing down sprint and Wanderer in this Silksong playthrough is going to be huge, I can already tell.

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I will try Reaper out when I get it.

vocal bane
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This Silksong boss whoopin my ahh

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Act 3 ||Karmelita|| if ur wonderin

thorny shoal
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aaah the best silksong boss

next patio
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Def a fun one

spice sentinel
fathom juniper
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THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE BIM!

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hey @dense kindle
what was the name of that mod that makes your research center flash in rgb?

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like they're having a rave in there or something

dense kindle
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caramelldansen

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or disco science

fathom juniper
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DISCO SCIENCE!

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yes!

mystic wave
clear python
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bim you NEED to play disco elysium

clear python
fathom juniper
clear python
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wtf?

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mods, ban this fool

silk abyss
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It reminds me so much of paper Mario

austere wadi
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"Science per minute" ron

fathom juniper
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now that's what i call progress
30spm on a fresh save in under 5 hours

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yeah sure i know it's not that much
but for a beginner on a fresh save? i'd say that's pretty gud

dense kindle
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factorio is a funny game

fathom juniper
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That it sure is

austere wadi
signal kayak
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B-bruh

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So much for the new Ally being a good system (if it ever was)

fathom juniper
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AŁŁY

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A L L Y

signal kayak
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Bro

fathom juniper
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you mean rog ally?

fathom juniper
signal kayak
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It's supposed to be a lightweight Windows system (yes it's the ROG Ally X)
But it has Teams, OneDrive and (because why wouldn't it be here) Copilot

fathom juniper
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Can’t decide on what language it should settle on

signal kayak
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Like...just, why

fathom juniper
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Perfect corporate productivity device

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Well it’s Microsoft PeepoShrug
What did you expect

signal kayak
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It's about twice as expensive as a Steam Deck but it's still got bloatware and spyware for no reason

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All for what, playing the new Battlefield game? Hwat?

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Little wonder people that use Linux are so happy with Linux smh

stray stag
signal kayak
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I don't think so, but why would I want them? Unless I install Windows on the Steam Deck, but that kinda defeats the purpose of a Linux portable PC, I think

stray stag
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Everyone needs teams and OneDrive

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Teams is the new Skype

signal kayak
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Ok

hearty yarrow
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Rog ally x is one of the worst names

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Like I cant tell what this is supposed to be and it also sounds bad

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Marginally better than xbox series one x maybe

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But at least then I know it's an xbox

ivory horizon
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RoG Ally, RoG Ally X, RoG Xbox Ally and RoG Xbox Ally X
Too many variations

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It's a hard sell, when the future of the Xbox ecosystem is uncertain

mystic wave
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idk bim

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doesnt look too liveable

fathom juniper
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this is a science space

mystic wave
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you cant science in a place nobody lives!

dense kindle
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it's not that important to be efficient with science output, I think. Science production has always been the bottleneck personally

fathom juniper
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i like this design because i have greens on the left side and reds on the right side and not a single bottle goes to waste

dense kindle
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oh yeah mixing lanes is very important

fathom juniper
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and if i upgrade to military science and then baja blast science i can just make a new belt and feed them with red inserters

fathom juniper
dense kindle
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yeah, should be able to easily take 4 types of science with 2 lanes

fathom juniper
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what was the command that displays your fps ups and time?

dense kindle
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f4?

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"show-fps"

fathom juniper
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oh right

dense kindle
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and "show-time-usage"

fathom juniper
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i thought it was a console command

fathom juniper
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man - this run is going well aPES2_HappySpin

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i wonder how i'm going to f it up this time PES_Lul

fathom juniper
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50 spm! aPES2_Cheer

dense kindle
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now do that for blue science

fathom juniper
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there's nothing out there

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there's some stone, wee bit of oil and some uranium i don't know what to do with yet

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any tips for looking for iron ores @dense kindle ?

mystic wave
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try looking for ancient marine sediments formed around craton margins

dense kindle
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looks really unlucky lol

fathom juniper
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what's the best way of doing that besides the turret strat?

mystic wave
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empathy

dense kindle
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lots and lots of grenades

fathom juniper
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this planet is mine they just don't know it yet

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are shotguns any good in this game?

dense kindle
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btw you can pick up fish from bodies of water

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those are the healing items

fathom juniper
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yeah i've heard about that

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but how do i do that?

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can i just put an inserter there>?

dense kindle
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literally just mouse over them and rightclick, I think

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you get 5 fish, put it on your hotbar like grenades

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it's a weird part of the game that sticks out because you don't automate it lol

mystic wave
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fish and grenades are ontologically similar

dense kindle
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I don't really see much use for them though

fathom juniper
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SMGs with spicy red ammo seem to be doing well too

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but then again - i've got +60% dmg and +80% rof

dense kindle
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yeah

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and grenades just scale really well

fathom juniper
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yup

dense kindle
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I usually use grenades to clear out the crowds, then smg to kill the buildings

mystic wave
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why not use excavators to clear forests like normal industrialists...

fathom juniper
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do we look normal to you?

mystic wave
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my bad

fathom juniper
mystic wave
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but genuine question is that not an option

fathom juniper
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i mean - it probably is

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depends on what you mean by "normal"

fathom juniper
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either that, or a mod for it

dense kindle
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and nuclear bombs which don't

fathom juniper
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god i can't wait to get nukes

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like - screw the space rocket
i want to make those bugs regret messing with me dusa

dense kindle
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oh apparently the dlc has fish automation

fathom juniper
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hey miko @mystic wave
you ever played factorio?

fathom juniper
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yeah but i barely just hand-crafted a hl2 buggy car

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cost me like 8 v8 engines... for some reason
cause this damn thing can't even get it up to 60

spice sentinel
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there was(maybe still is) also the tactic of blowing up nuclear reactor in their nest

fathom juniper
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now you're speaking my language

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i gotta write this down

fathom juniper
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try it dusa

fathom juniper
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I see fresh supply of copium just arrived

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Man
I should’ve packed my steam deck to work today

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There’s nothing going on today

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Im wasting time
Time I could use for expanding my factory

spice sentinel
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why are you working when your factory must grow

fathom juniper
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It’s part of the supply chain

mystic wave
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Bim you're talking the factory language

fathom juniper
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I work to make money
I use that money to pay my electricity bill
I use that electricity to run my pc
And then I use that pc to grow my factory

mystic wave
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This is scary

fathom juniper
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It’s an abstract kind of a bus

fathom juniper
mystic wave
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Wtf

fathom juniper
rose galleon
fathom juniper
woven breach
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Hi, folks

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had a three and a half hour session of Silent Hill f

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that's a PB

mystic wave
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How many creatures did you bully

fathom juniper
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personal best?

woven breach
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yes

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usually it's barely two hours

fathom juniper
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i don't get it

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are you doing like a speedrun or something?

woven breach
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no

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just

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normal session

fathom juniper
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so like
what's the big deal? dusa

mystic wave
echo hazel
fathom juniper
woven breach
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cause I'm bad at horror

fathom juniper
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ooohhh

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yeah fair enough

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try cry of fear if you want to play a game in 10 minutes long intervals dusa

woven breach
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yeeeaaaaah

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I'll pass

fathom juniper
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it's such a great game though

glad zinc
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LOOKATDISCAT once upon a katamari next week

fathom juniper
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Wow
Liars poker is… actually fun dusa

dense kindle
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yeah I don't play much horror but I push myself because the games are worth it lol

fathom juniper
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I mean liars bar

fathom juniper
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Or soma?

dense kindle
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no I own them both lol

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I've only played signalis and resident evil 4

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babby games only for me

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those two are both goated though

fathom juniper
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Yeah they’re good, but

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If you want a really spooky time - try cof

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If you want a slightly less spooky time that’s also a good game PES_Lul

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Play soma

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Soma is my favorite „modern” horror
One of the only two games I can actually call a „psychological horror” without cringing

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And cof is just just pants crappingly terrifying

dense kindle
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I need to shoot the zombies

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if I can't shoot them, no bueno

fathom juniper
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Cry of fear it is then

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If you ever wanted to dual wield a Glock 17 and a vp70 then cof is that-a-way

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Don’t worry about reloading dusa

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You won’t be doing that anyway dusa

dense kindle
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man omega is so much fun

stable kindle
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i regret to inform i am now 70hr into forted nites. sorry for my crimes pensivewobble

silk abyss
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Rookie numbers

stable kindle
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well yes if you've been playing for a while that happens lmao. its uh. two weeks for me.

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dw i have over 2k in gw2

woven breach
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So uh...

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I got Silent Hill f-ricked up ending

fathom juniper
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it's really hard to get a good ending on your first run

woven breach
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the bad ending was harder to get

fathom juniper
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ey?

woven breach
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yea

fathom juniper
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maybe in this one

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i was thinking more of the classics

woven breach
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oh yea I know

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but this one, the bad ending is 'harder' to get

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as in, it goes farther length than the good ending route

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that being said

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I'm emotionally [REDACTED]

fathom juniper
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i'm also emotionally [REDACTED]

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i'm debugging my factory trying to get some oil processing dusa

woven breach
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have you tried turning it off and on again?

fathom juniper
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i have, actually

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it reduces pollution dusa

woven breach
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considering your aim, I assume that's a bad thing?

fathom juniper
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well it makes the locals lightly less angy

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so yes - it's a bad thing dusa

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AND SPEAKING OF

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today i have finished prolonged land negotiations with the local bug population

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they have agreed to move their border a few miles up north in exchange for few hundred grenades and a dozen of gun turrets to allow for the expansion of my factory dusa

woven breach
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so... your land debugging consists of arming them?

fathom juniper
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more like de-arming them dusa

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and they've got 8 arms each

echo hazel
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so @woven breach how long does an average playthrough take? I'm interested but the trophy list looks horrid with all the forced extra playthroughs

signal kayak
woven breach
signal kayak
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Out of mild curiosity, what's the goal of Factorio?

fathom juniper
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build a space rocket and gtfo

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and technically there's nothing stopping you from hand-crafting everything you need for it
it would just take literally years

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so instead you have to automate everything and grow your production exponentially to make it feasible within your lifetime

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well it's either that or bug murder dusa

signal kayak
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Is there a condition for losing? Like, running out of resources/personnel/money/whatever it is?

fathom juniper
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well it's minecraft rules - if you die you can just respawn at your base

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so technically there's no way to completely lose
HOWEVER

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bugs keep evolving and multiplying
and they hate your factory

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and the more polution you create - the more pissed they get and evolve even faster

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and your pollution cloud will keep getting bigger and bigger - hitting more nests, making even more bugs angry and making them evolve even faster

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so there is a way to f it all up so hard their evolution will outpace your production
which is what happened on my last save

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or - if you want an extra hard challenge
you can just make a factory that runs doom dusa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bAuP0gO5pc

Facto-RayO is a 3D game-engine I made in #Factorio 1.1, in v2.1 I've added a UI. The doom UI to be specific, including view-models.

you can download the save file here: [todo factorio forum link]

previous versions: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxR_6RD8er_3esLidLgC5SjpHlkVScJfZ

some explanatory videos (not specific to v2.1): https:/...

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signal kayak
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Dusa face indeed

mystic wave
fathom juniper
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although i've heard there's a way to extract microplastics from fish dusa

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dunno how to do that yet though

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but dude - getting to this point was nuts

signal kayak
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I'm looking at the demo of Sker Ritual, and it's...kind of like an indie Killing Floor?

signal kayak
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Round based zombie horde shooter FPS game with upgrades each round, shops and whatnot

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Bit of a roguelike element here and there

signal kayak
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The demo chugs super hard at times

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And this is on PS5, mind you

fathom juniper
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ooooohhhh this is turning into a logistics nightmare PES_BoiStop

fathom juniper
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grow strong, my child!
grow strong and lay waste to the local bug population

austere wadi
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Aw, yeah, we pulling out the magnifying glass on a sunny day.

fathom juniper
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funny thing - there is something like that in factorio

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saw it on mart's video
dunno if that's DLC or modded or vanilla or what

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hang on lemme fetch that vid

fathom juniper
# austere wadi Aw, yeah, we pulling out the magnifying glass on a sunny day.

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giant magnifying glass for bugs

austere wadi
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Alright, Factorio will go on the list.

fathom juniper
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dude
this series convinced me to buy it

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and i played it from around 10 am to 11 pm just today PES_BoiStop

austere wadi
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That's a good game.

fathom juniper
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watch the whole thing
start with "expanding to space in factorio"

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it's a 3 part series

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genuinely a great watch aPES_LaptopPopcorn

austere wadi
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Pizza ordered, will watch the first once I'm back.

austere wadi
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The sponsorship bit is saved by E1M1.

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This video is incredible and I'm having a blast watching, it but it is killing my drive to actually play Factorio. I know they're going for a massive endeavor, but 13 hours and that's when they're finally launching their first satellite?

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I guess it's going on the backburner anyway.

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Yo, Super Gore Nest? This is a character of class and distinction.

lost igloo
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been playing this fun little game called Hades2 🙂

fathom juniper
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im 25 hours in on this save and i'm barely halfway to launching my satelite dusa

merry marlin
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VTM Bloodlines 2 day ahhhh!!!!!!!

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Im so excited for the release its unreal

fathom juniper
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Engine

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5

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I though it already came out

merry marlin
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It comes out today, not sure if its already out or if its coming out later today (Checking as we speak haha)

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Im not fussed on the engines games were made on tbh ^^ but I will always make the “premium gamers” joke now after borderlands 4 😭

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Its coming out tomorrow at 00:00 on the 21st ^^

nova narwhal
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is anyone playing absolum?

fathom juniper
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hey @dense kindle
you there?

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i might need your help with something

dense kindle
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yeah whatsup

dense kindle
dense kindle
fathom juniper
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it has served me well but it's becoming a bit outdated and the assembly line is becoming a bit of a mess down south

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and my question is - should i just start from scratch here?

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do you maybe have any ideas on what could i do with this design to increase throughput for all the ore coming in on train?

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i call this plate of spaghetti "the untangler" PES_Lul
the basic idea is this - whatever i made on the assembly line so far lands on the bus - i don't want it to go to waste

fathom juniper
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but then i switched yellow belts for plates for red belts and i want to add another line there to keep up with all plates i'm gonna make

fathom juniper
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unless you've got any different ideas

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cause with this - in theory - i will end up with three saturated lines of iron plates, three lines of copper plates, three lines for chips and 6 lines for other intermediates

dense kindle
fathom juniper
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oh yeah good thing i planned for that ahead and left some space

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or just scrap it and go with something different entirely

dense kindle
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yeah I think it's fine

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I think normal bus allocation is like, 4 iron, 4 copper, 2 green chips, and then 1 lane for everything else

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I don't like bussing wire

fathom juniper
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yeah but i don't output enough to fully saturate 4 lanes like that

dense kindle
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best to setup for success and increase production later

fathom juniper
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3 full yellow belts should be more than enough for me for a long time

dense kindle
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Yellow undergrounds can cross a 4 belt highway

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which is why the math works out really nicely

fathom juniper
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yeah cause splitters go 50/50
so then i could do 75/25

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hmmm PES_Think

fathom juniper
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yup

dense kindle
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I think in general, it's better to try to setup a really clean input, and then you can have the bus start to fray and get messy later on

fathom juniper
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yyyyyyyyeeeaaaahhh weirdleave

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well there's your problem

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i didn't plan for that so now i have to un-tangle it

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hence the name

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this is my first proper run, after all

dense kindle
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it's probably best to just un-tangle it now tbh, and move the stuff a bit further away so you can have a clean highway

fathom juniper
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i could untangle it now, leave it at 3 full belts but space them apart and add a 4th empty lane i could fill later on

dense kindle
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but for the tier of like, green chips and red chips, the highway should still be maintained ideally

fathom juniper
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and since i'm doing 3x3 i could add one and i'd be at 4x2

dense kindle
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yeah that makes sense

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although you'd probably wanna pick a specific side to do all your undergrounds and stuff on, so switching to 4x2 isn't a pain

fathom juniper
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oh yeah that's why i made this mess in the first place

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to route iron and copper plates on the side i'm gonna have the assembly line on

dense kindle
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yeah

fathom juniper
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iron first then copper - cause i know i'm gonna use that the most

dense kindle
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right now your bus is kinda like an outwards cone

fathom juniper
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outwards cone?

fathom juniper
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oh yeah - it's gonna have two belts going north so it's gonna even out
at least visually

dense kindle
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my thought is just that it'll starve of iron down the line

fathom juniper
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nah i planned for that and i have twice as much iron as i have copper going on

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2 train cars of iron vs 1 of copper
going into 2 buffers

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i just have to copy that one furnace stack for the second lane

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now that is one thing i actually planned for in advance PES_Lul

dense kindle
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if you can squeeze it in but it might be really tight

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it's not about amount, it's more about throughput

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it's ok to go from 4 lanes of iron to 1 lane of iron later on, but you can't really go from 2 lanes to 4, you know?

fathom juniper
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well i guess there's only one way to find out

dense kindle
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idk you'll make it work

fathom juniper
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which now that im thinking about it - could bottleneck me

dense kindle
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yeah you can cheat a bit with better belts

fathom juniper
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but i'm hoping that the north assembly line will eat enough of iron in the process for the whole thing to even out

dense kindle
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I just think it might start running out of steam when you need to mass produce stuff like solar panels or engines

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maybe, idk

dense kindle
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ideally you have a belt for engines on the bus

fathom juniper
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but in general PES_Lul

fathom juniper
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right now i have like... two things that need those

dense kindle
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I mean blue science is eternally consuming of them

fathom juniper
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fair enough

dense kindle
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You'll also need to need it for yellow science later on

fathom juniper
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the fabled piss science

dense kindle
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yes

fathom juniper
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH

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THE BRICKS

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i need one more lane

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so i'd end up with 16 lanes and that doesn't divide by 3

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oooohhhh call me mikkelsen cause i'm getting the mads

dense kindle
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bro just one more lane

fathom juniper
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oooooohhh this is triggering my ocd i didn't even know i had

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so it's gonna be 3 belts, 3 belts 3 belts but one empty, 4 belts and 3 belts again

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oh and one more question @dense kindle

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what's the best way of getting rid of garbage?

dense kindle
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what's garbage?

fathom juniper
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like i've got some items clogging up my inventory or chests that i'd like to get rid of

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like i know i can just put them in a chest and then shoot it but that just makes a mess on the map

dense kindle
#

that's about it

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there's recyclers in the DLC

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although it depends on what you mean by "some items"

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if it's like, coal or iron or stuff just stick them onto the furnaces or assembly lines or whatever

#

you shouldn't have toooooo much stuff that's useless and not used in the factory

fathom juniper
#

i want that mods i saw somewhere that lets me build an inserter that just yeets stuff so i could throw all the garbage into a nearby lake simpsons-style

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but i can't find a working one anywhere

dense kindle
#

what do you even have that's that problematic lol

fathom juniper
#

a bunch of coal and rocks and such

#

i just don't like the garbage i get from draining belts
i'da rather just yeet it and be done with it

dense kindle
#

just put the coal into the furnaces

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just put the rocks into the furnaces

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iirc furnaces don't fill up if they're backed up

fathom juniper
#

that... was way less painful than i thought it was gonna be

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now i just need to add another unloading buffer for a train and route some more copper from a patch in bimstown north and that's it

mystic wave
#

whats the population count of bimstown

fathom juniper
#

1

mystic wave
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the top 1%ter

fathom juniper
#

hell yeah

dense kindle
#

you are the wealthiest person in all of nauvis

fathom juniper
#

AWESOME

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i tried to make a buffer for a second copper unloading zone

#

but accidentally made a contraption that drains all fuel from my locomotive dusa

#

how tf...

#

and now all chests are a mess
PES_AngeryWut

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this is the reason why i want to just yeet stuff into the pond

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cause sorting this stuff and splitting it between chests is a pain

#

OH YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME

#

why is the spacing off by one tile?

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this used to line up so well

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those inserters used to be perfectly in the middle

dense kindle
#

idk did you manually drive it

#

did you adjust where the stop was

fathom juniper
#

i mean - it works, i guess

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it just doesn't look as neat as i'd like it to

mystic wave
#

start over

mystic wave
#

but but

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how can you live with this discrepancy

fathom juniper
#

right?

fathom juniper
#

IT'S WORKING!

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two perfectly saturated red belts aPES2_HappySpin

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man - seeing a system like that come online after plugging it in makes it all worth it

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OH CHRIST i forgot i have to route another belt through The Untangler™ PES_BoiStop

#

anyways - one last screenshot and then im off
just...

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just look at this mess PES_Lul

dense kindle
#

you know you'd save a ton of undergrounds by having the copper and iron go underground as they go left

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instead of having 7 lanes bow before their glory

fathom juniper
#

shush

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don't make me un-tangle the un-tangler

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if it looks stupid but it works then it ain't stupid

mystic wave
#

its better when its stupid

fathom juniper
#

exactly!

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also the bugs are knocking at my door asking me to join their workers union and i'll have none of that nonsense

mystic wave
#

are they your workers

fathom juniper
#

are they?

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so far the only thing they've done was knocking out my radar array, punching a bunch of holes in my walls and then ask for a raise

mystic wave
#

sounds like they do more work than you bim

fathom juniper
#

do they?

#

the only thing they do well is wreck crap and multiply

dense kindle
#

Factorio: Wait colonialism is awesome actually this is crack

fathom juniper
fathom juniper
#

there's no bathrooms in my factory

mystic wave
#

cant wait to automate everything and lay off everyone

dense kindle
fathom juniper
dense kindle
fathom juniper
#

no i didn't

dense kindle
#

you also laid off all the bugs close to your base

fathom juniper
#

i'm still using those for coal for boilers

fathom juniper
dense kindle
mystic wave
dense kindle
#

my burner miners always just get put into a giant coal loop so I can get some to boot up my futance stacks lol

fathom juniper
# dense kindle why tho

because - in my limited understanding of the game - using coal miners to fuel boilers for electricity kinda counts as a separate grid

dense kindle
#

Ah this is true

fathom juniper
#

so if my electricity goes down i could easily get it back up instead of falling into this spiral of "i can't make fuel cause i have no electricity and i can't make electricity cause i have no fuel"

dense kindle
#

It's still a hassle to get them fed though unless you some splitter shenanigans

fathom juniper
#

also this system just fuels itself

#

thermodynamics be damned PES_Lul

dense kindle
#

I just use burner inserters and electric drills

fathom juniper
#

that's all it takes

dense kindle
#

with a chest to load coal if it runs out

fathom juniper
#

i'm using burner drills and inserters routed backwards

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so that the drill spits out coal behind, it loops back, goes into an inserter which fuels itself and then the drill

dense kindle
#

Oh I see the vision
That's so cursed

fathom juniper
#

and after like 30 seconds they're all fed up and start just producing coal for everything else

fathom juniper
dense kindle
#

paid in raw fish

fathom juniper
#

hell yeah

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i'm still thonking how can i automate fishing

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i want to build a thing that just reaches into the pond
grabs a fish
and yeets it on a belt

mystic wave
#

what does this mean for the local trout population

fathom juniper
#

don't know, don't care

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all i know is that yesterday i realized that throwing grenades put my inventory fish on a cooldown...

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...for some reason PeepoShrug

#

this game is full of mysteries

mystic wave
#

have you ever tried holding fish and grenades yourself? its harder than you think

fathom juniper
#

god help you if you ever get your hands mixed up and throw a carp and eat a grenade

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ACTUALLY

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hmmmmmmmmm PES_Think

signal kayak
#

WHA

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...

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...Factorio is available on GOG, right?

south jungle
#

But many complaints about updates and stuff on GOG compared to steam

fathom juniper
#

Yeah also you can use your steam account in their mod page

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Hell you can get mods straight from the main menu and the login process is super easy on steam
It’s like two clicks

fathom juniper
signal kayak
#

Not really, or at least not now, but it's good to know that it's on GOG

fathom juniper
#

Come on
Just try it

signal kayak
#

Oh that reminds me

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Remember that quest in one of the BL3 DLCs where you rode a rocket to see if it'd take you outside of the map?
I've tried the same on TPS!
...to no avail :/

fathom juniper
#

Yeah dusa

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The only funny thing in this game
And it wasn’t even scripted

green scaffold
signal kayak
#

Eh, we got to diss the meriff and send his statue's head into Pandora to a possible continuation somewhere in the future if Randy doesn't ruin it

fathom juniper
#

Nah don’t worry about it

fathom juniper
#

I mean - it’s nice they’re gonna support pd2 after 3, but
That just confirms how much of a failure 3 was

dense kindle
#

lmao

dense kindle
#

the game is janky and broken, and always has been

#

anything to dejank it a smidge would help

dense kindle
fathom juniper
#

ah
I see

#

holy crap the biters got so tanky in those few days

#

i've got blue biters now

dense kindle
#

is it time for laser turrets yet

fathom juniper
#

i haven't made a single battery yet

dense kindle
#

oh yeah mass produce that stuff

#

make a whole yellow belt of em

fathom juniper
#

yeah but i need a proper oil refinery for this stuff

dense kindle
#

yup lol

fathom juniper
#

and to do that i need to expand my territory

dense kindle
#

mass oil refining is where I start losing the plot lol

#

routing 3 fluids without mixing them breaks my brain

fathom juniper
#

yeah i tried a little bit of that

#

i can see it becoming a massive pain

mystic wave
#

So what do you do with all your industrial junk? Sell them?

fathom juniper
#

use it to build more industrial junk

mystic wave
#

To what end.

fathom juniper
#

to no end

mystic wave
#

That's very deleuze and guattari of you

fathom juniper
#

a what

dense kindle
#

you crash landed on a planet alone, filled with vicious aliens
Your goal is to get off the planet
You must build a rocket by any means necessary

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it's like subnautica but you really mess up the planet

fathom juniper
#

screw that rocket

#

i'm not leaving my planet

#

the bugs are dusa

#

this factory shall grow forever

mystic wave
#

Deleuze and Guattari write, "[p]roduction as process overtakes all idealistic categories and constitutes a cycle whose relationship to desire is that of an immanent principle. That is why desiring-production is the principal concern of a materialist psychiatry, which conceives of and deals with the schizo as Homo natura."[1]

Deleuze and Guattari explain the concept of process and its involvement in desire. "[E]verything is production: production of productions, of actions and of passions; productions of recording processes, of distributions and of co-ordinates that serve as points of reference; productions of consumptions, of sensual pleasures, of anxieties, and of pain. Everything is production, since the recording processes are immediately consumed, immediately consummated, and these consumptions directly reproduced. This is the first meaning of process as we use the term: incorporating recording and consumption within production itself, thus making them the productions of one and the same process."[1

fathom juniper
#

yeah that checks out

#

guess now i know what the dev was reading before making this dusa

#

anyways - back to de-foresting a forest using hand grenades to expand my factory there

mystic wave
#

Bim grenades are not OSHA compliant

fathom juniper
#

osha has left this server long ago

#

wait

#

wasn't there an osha mod for factorio?

mystic wave
#

Wot

fathom juniper
mystic wave
#

Erm

fathom juniper
#

DAW F-

#

okay - pro tip
don't try to right-click to cut down a single tree while holding a hand grenade dusa

#

lesson learned

#

i can't be bothered filtering through all of this junk

silk abyss
#

I’m gonna put a baby velociraptor against a full grown T. rex now

spice sentinel
fathom juniper
#

i wanted to get that one mod that makes a throwing inserter
and just yeet stuff

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but the only one i found worked with 1.1 and i'm on 2.0

silk abyss
#

Peak

fathom juniper
#

this looks kinda cool

#

but also like...
not real?

#

you know what i mean?

fathom juniper
#

oh christ i have to make sulfuric acid now PES_BoiStop

#

how tf do i route this @dense kindle ?

dense kindle
#

what's the recipe again

fathom juniper
#

1 iron plate, 5 sulfur (made at a different chemical plant) and 50 water

dense kindle
#

oh that's not too bad

#

make a dual belt of iron and sulfur, use a long arm to pick them up

fathom juniper
#

okay i think i figured out a setup

#

a janky one, but still

dense kindle
#

use underground pipes to weave the inserters

fathom juniper
#

underground pipes to weave inserters PES_Think

#

i can see it not being really efficient
but it should work

#

i could run it on a single belt but then i'd have to sort out intermediates that don't get consumed and get them back on the main bus

#

WAIT
sulfuric acid is a liquid so i can't just put it on a belt like that

silk abyss
fathom juniper
#

like it was prerendered or something

dense kindle
fathom juniper
#

yeah but
it can do that, right?

#

technically

dense kindle
#

no

#

you can go from inserter tip to inserter tip

#

but not inserter tip to inserter body

fathom juniper
#

ooooh

austere wadi
#

You're not touching tips enough, Bim.

silk abyss
dense kindle
dense kindle
silk abyss
#

I mean I literally played the game like 2 hours ago and it looks exactly like this

fathom juniper
#

question
can ramming a live oil line with my car going 50mph make it explode?

dense kindle
#

no you'll just break stuff

#

there's no chemistry in this game

austere wadi
#

Grenade throwers in Deep Docks make me miss the Putrefied Ducts.

fathom juniper
#

That’s big succ

#

Wait hang on

#

Is this on an iPad ?

fathom juniper
#

great
now you can play some Silent Hill F-actorio dusa

fathom juniper
echo hazel
#

some are like: does not happen specifically in the fictional city of silent hill = bad

fathom juniper
#

neither does 4 and like a half of 3

echo hazel
#

some are like: fog ☁️ + spooky 😨 + melee combat 🔨 = 🤑

echo hazel
#

and read the youtube comments

woven breach
#

but it has a hill...

#

that's also silent

echo hazel
#

when the hill is silent

mystic wave
woven breach
mystic wave
#

Wryyyyyy

#

My favorite silent hill experience is to play SH1 into shattered memories

#

The way they're connected is so cool

fathom juniper
fathom juniper
#

All resources are flowing like

fathom juniper
#

God I wish factorio worked on mobiles
With cross saves

dense kindle
#

how would you even build in factorio mobile

fathom juniper
#

dunno

#

i'm not smart enough to figure that out

#

anyway - i got off one job, so it's time to jump straight into another
working at my own factory ron

fathom juniper
#

wtf is happening with my power grid? PES_BoiStop

fathom juniper
#

hey @dense kindle - which shells are better for a entry level tank?
normal or explosive?

#

i wanna clear out some nests

dense kindle
#

I don't know I've never used tanks lol

#

I just use power armor and grenades

#

get explosive

#

explosive = aoe
tank shell = singletarget

#

or ideally, both

fathom juniper
#

i quite like this tank

#

looks like a killdozer

#

WAIT A MINUTE

#

i can pipe liquids to assembly units!?

dense kindle
#

only in blue and above, yeah

fathom juniper
#

oh noooooo PES_BoiStop

dense kindle
#

some recipes need it, after all

fathom juniper
#

i can already see all the ways this is gonna suck

dense kindle
#

the input only shows up if you set the recipe to something that needs fluids

fathom juniper
#

i... didn't think this through PES_Lul

#

got any ideas?

#

cause it looks like i'd have to go through The Untangler™

dense kindle
#

just go down, then route it under the bus with undergrounds

fathom juniper
#

oh this is gonna spaghettify itself so fast

dense kindle
#

that's the neat thing about busses, it's really easy to cross them

fathom juniper
#

okay - sorry for bugging you so hard about this, but

#

could you walk me through the whole construction robots thing?

#

like - how does this work

dense kindle
#

do you have robotport buildings yet

fathom juniper
#

i have them researched

dense kindle
#

ok roboport buildings are like wire towers

#

they have a square around them that drones can access

#

so you want coverage of your wholebase with roboports

#

Store robots in roboports

#

log bots carry stuff, construction bots place buildings and stuff from storage into blueprints

fathom juniper
#

ok so drones can only build in a square around the robo port?

dense kindle
#

yeah basically

#

drones run out of power as they fly around, and they recharge at roboports

#

so they can't get too far away from roboports

fathom juniper
#

i see

#

god this is so overwhelming PES_Lul

#

i have unlocked so much crap at the same time

dense kindle
#

if you have enough log robots, you can literally use them like amazon drones, and replace your belts

#

it's basically cheating

fathom juniper
#

i think i see how that goes

#

basically spam roboports everywhere and when i produce enough red or blue belts they will just take them and replace existing ones>?

dense kindle
#

"Oh, this thing needs red circuits? I don't feel like routing a belt over here. I'm just gonna put a requester chest and have my drone pack mules carry them over to feed this assembler"

fathom juniper
#

oh wait

#

they can carry stuff to assemblers directly?

dense kindle
#

uh no but they can carry stuff to a chest, which then inserter to assembler

fathom juniper
#

yeah basically same thing

#

that's neat

#

but i'm guessing i'd have to sort out my, uh...

#

ongoing energy crisis PES_Lul

#

and switch to something better

dense kindle
#

uh yeah get on that

fathom juniper
#

coal and steam engines are barely cutting it

dense kindle
#

unfortunately solar power is good though absurdly large on space

fathom juniper
#

i already had to put all my radars on solars with accumulators

#

and i was racking my brain just wtf was going on

#

turns out my steam engines and boilers weren't keeping up and i had one connection messed up and it led to some stray solar panel in the middle of buttsmack nowhere

#

and it led to this weird loop where at night my steam engines would burn through all the coal and crap out
and only like two of them would barely work and eat all the incoming coal preventing others from working

dense kindle
#

I would try to mass produce solar panels and accumulators asap

#

you need equal amounts of both

fathom juniper
#

but then at day those solars would kick in and lighten the load for steam engines a bit

dense kindle
#

yeah ideally you can wean yourself off of coal boilers

fathom juniper
#

so my energy was going up and down and up and down and i was looking for that one broken electric pole that - it turns out - i ran over with my car dusa

dense kindle
#

ik they're addictive

fathom juniper
#

god there's so many things to keep in mind

dense kindle
#

yup

#

I find this section of the game to be really, really complicated

fathom juniper
#

oh yeah

dense kindle
#

right after you get good oil processing going, it all just explodes

#

now you gotta get drones, power, start to do nuclear, power armor, etc

dense kindle
#

Yeah I dont turn on bug aggro anymore

fathom juniper
#

oops PES_Lul

dense kindle
#

adding on defense and defense logistics is too much for me

fathom juniper
#

luckily - i invensted in that earlier

dense kindle
#

plus you have the satisfaction of clearing out nests still

fathom juniper
#

i'm just hoping that a double wall with a crapton of auto turrets with spicy red ammo is enough for this part of the campaign

dense kindle
#

hopefully

#

I find that bus design is just a lot harder with bug aggro

#

a bus wants to go outwards
Your defenses want you to stay within the boundaries

fathom juniper
#

good thing bugs can't swim

dense kindle
#

imagine if they added mutas lol

fathom juniper
#

the what?

dense kindle
#

short for mutalisks from starcraft

fathom juniper
#

ah

#

OH GOD-

#

dude i thought i was going insane

#

so i quit factorio for the day, right?

#

i hopped on youtube and started watching this:
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▶ Play video
#

and they started playing factorio music in the first 20 seconds of the vid

#

what are the odds?

silk abyss
#

There’s a video game concert near me happening next march

#

Should I go

fathom juniper
#

oh hell yeah

silk abyss
#

I might go to this

#

If I could hear his transformers prime theme that would be a godsend

fathom juniper
#

purple science packs take rails, electric furnaces and red modules?

#

this... makes no sense at all

#

hey @dense kindle - i've got one more question

#

let's assume the gost trail is a blue chip belt

#

how can i pick up red chips without messing everything else up?

dense kindle
#

underground blue for a stretch. Splitter the red out

fathom juniper
#

oh so i can use blu or green inserters this way

#

yeah good call - i didn't think of that

#

thanks PES2_HmmmmThumbsUp

dense kindle
#

belt weaving is magic

fathom juniper
#

oooohhhhh i can already see the chip shortage being a problem in the future

fathom juniper
#

why splitters instead of inserters though?

dense kindle
#

splitters are unpowered, and as long as you match the type to the belt, have perfect throughput

fathom juniper
#

yeah but on the other hand - with splitters i can control that throughput

#

if i want to put more stuff on the belt i can do blue or green inserters

dense kindle
#

also it's more space efficient

fathom juniper
#

if i'm having less materials i can switch to yellow inserters

#

but i can see the vision

dense kindle
#

especially since splitters take stuff in an L shape

#

an inserter would have to jut out sideways or something

fathom juniper
#

ah! found another drawback

#

with inserters i can easily make double belts

#

one type of thing per side

dense kindle
#

you don't even need inserters for that

fathom juniper
#

yeah i know, but it's more of a hassle to do with belts

#

especially in a limited space

dense kindle
#

green chip goes down, plastic goes up, they slam together to make one half belt of each. This gets split into two lanes of half greenchip, half plastic

fathom juniper
#

but...

#

how does it know to do that?

dense kindle
#

they just slide on

#

the green chip cannot slide to the bottom lane of the sideways belt

#

another example: my furnace stack

fathom juniper
#

i use two belts for my furnace stacks

#

one for coal and other for iron

dense kindle
#

yeah you can do that too, I just like this better

fathom juniper
#

i just don't like my belts getting messy

#

this does look clean, i'll admit

fathom juniper
#

oh yeah i did that

dense kindle
#

at the bottom right

fathom juniper
#

a lot

#

i really like this solution actually

#

like - i know splitters can do a lot and i like them a lot
but i never would've thought of doing this
#video-games message

#

freakin black magic

fathom juniper
#

as in - belting resources to loop under the main belt like that?

#

i think i could do that with inserters using that single empty square up there

dense kindle
#

yeah to split red chips away from the bus, and feed it into that underground to go left

#

you probably know this but labs can grab science from labs

fathom juniper
#

oh yeah

dense kindle
#

so you can can just chain them like that

dense kindle
#

cursed but works

fathom juniper
#

it's a bit messier, but it ensures not a single bottle goes to waste

#

and i'm not making too many of them

dense kindle
#

never be afraid of making too many bottles

fathom juniper
#

also i might have to tweak it a bit because it can't take more than up to baja blast science

dense kindle
#

science production is the true resource sink of this game

fathom juniper
#

oh yeah

dense kindle
#

your question is "which science isn't being made enough of" at all times basically

fathom juniper
#

i mean - it's basically the only guidance you get in this game

#

just make more science till you unlock a rocket
which is the only thing this game tells you outright

#

the only objective

dense kindle
#

I mean there's also a tutorial lol

fathom juniper
#

yeah but

#

i never finished it PES_Lul

#

once i got to the second tutorial i found myself trying to optimise the whole thing and making it as efficient as possible instead of - you know
doing what it told me to

#

and at that point i was like PES_BoiStop

  • oh no... *
#

they got me already

#

anyways - you wanna see something even more cursed?

#

hey it's my first run PES_Lul

dense kindle
#

what are those splitters even doing

fathom juniper
#

their best

dense kindle
#

they do nothing except store like a dozen reserve steel lol

fathom juniper
#

nah they're doing nothing

#

but this was early in the run

#

i quickly realized how dumb this is but i find it adorable in this newbie kind of way
so i left it

fathom juniper
#

i also have an oil field full of pump jacks powered by solars...
without accumulators dusa

#

so they're working really really well
but only half the time dusa

dense kindle
#

I prefer to just run a wire all the way over to the oilfields

#

if I'm gonna be routing pipes there, might as well bring wire as well

#

oh I really hope you know this but you can just click drag underground pipes and belts and wires and it'll just chain them back to back

#

for long distances

fathom juniper
#

yeah but this one bit is such a peculiar spot that i can either
A: run miles of wire from bimstown central to it
or B: run a wire from the nearby engine array powered by the very oil it's trying to pump

#

risking it falling into a death spiral

fathom juniper
#

i only do that in tight spaces

#

why...

dense kindle
#

your accumulators ran out of juice before daylight kicked in

fathom juniper
#

i know solars don't work at night
that's where the dips show on the orange graph

#

but why is the blue graph going up?

#

and then down

dense kindle
#

what's the blue line again

fathom juniper
#

steam engines