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dense kindle
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I thought it was unintuitive too

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||When the entrance of the zone starts freezing me to death, my instinct is not "ok, let's just charge forward as fast as I can and pray there's a safe spot"||

feral bobcat
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It shouldnt br

austere wadi
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Wait, there's ||no scarf or anything? I stumbled upon Mt. Fay pretty early and backed out when I saw I was dying.||

feral bobcat
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Scarf?

dense kindle
austere wadi
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||Something to guard against the environmental tick damage, like Samus's suit upgrades.||

feral bobcat
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Bo

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No

dense kindle
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||Lol yeah I was waiting for something like Gravity Suit too but a friend was like "Nah this is the next zone just go"||

feral bobcat
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Its part of the challenge

austere wadi
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...I see Team Cherry really liked Beta Quadrant from System Shock.

feral bobcat
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The whar

austere wadi
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Area in System Shock (at least the remake) with ||permanent environmental tick damage.||

dense kindle
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||Yeah the zone is actually very fun, my only gripe is that it makes it seem like the whole zone is icy death, and you should get a warming upgrade before you can proceed.||

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It acts more like a timer

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||"Make it to the next checkpoint in X seconds or else we start hurting you"||

feral bobcat
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Never heard of the gane

dense kindle
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system shock? grandparent of the immersive sim genre, related to games like Prey 2016, Deus Ex, Dishonored, Bioshock

austere wadi
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Bioshock's big inspiration was the System Shock games. The first one was fully remadestered a la Bluepoint's Demon's Souls a few years ago.

feral bobcat
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Oh bioshock

austere wadi
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System Shock 2 got a remaster I think in the last 12 months?

dense kindle
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And SysShock 2 recently got a rerelease

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yeah

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not a remake, more of an hd overhaul I think

austere wadi
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No, wait, 1 was a full remake, they kept the map almost entirely 1:1 but made a lot of other changes.

dense kindle
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yeah 1 was the remake, 2 was a good remaster

austere wadi
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Oh, Pale King, I finally have a proper pogo.

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Oh, ||Wanderer|| comes with only 1 tool but 3 yellow slots?

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Silksong is saved.

boreal isle
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bottom 5 crests 😔

wintry cedar
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@unique lily can you tell me where the ||charm to resist the bilewater maggots is?||

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Please 🥺

austere wadi
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||MA. I GOT THE PALE OIL.|| Also this range actually is quite small, damn.

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And I thought ||Reaper's|| attack was narrow.

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||Yo, I get Million Stab for my Nail Art?|| Also that ||upgrade animation|| was filthy.

elder ivy
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No but I managed to do this on my own already....

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I cant believe you have to do ||that insane platforming challenging + a stupidly fast and difficult bossfight too just FOR A USELESS TOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RAGGHHHHH!!!!||

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I'm soooo mad!!!!

unique lily
elder ivy
unique lily
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act 3 stuff

elder ivy
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I figured... there was an area I could see i could try climbing...... but i cant do it yet....

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oh well

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anyways

unique lily
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dude these act 3 bosses are so damn peak

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the feel like they're straight out of the HK pale court mod

elder ivy
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I managed to get ||all 3 melodies!!!! so this is the part where I can go fight the final boss and get a regular ending? and if I want to explore further and do act 3 stuff I dont have to fight this bossfight, right?||

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||that cogwork platforming challenge was honestly even worse than the high halls fight in my opinion.......... I HATE PLATFORMING SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!||

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😭 😭 😭 😭

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btw Fraud just say yes or no! dont spoil anything!! 🙏

unique lily
elder ivy
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I'll figure out this mystery on my own....

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🙂‍↕️

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but thank you

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I can see now why a lot of people get confused at this point!!

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team cherry really make you think hard for this one!

unique lily
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chat I know they're bugs but this one is EXTRA hot holy...

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why'd they make her so fine

elder ivy
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oh no... Iselda 2.0? 😭

unique lily
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even better

elder ivy
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😔

wintry cedar
unique lily
wintry cedar
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Sobbing crying

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I’m trying sooo hard

elder ivy
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This game never gets easier huh 😔

unique lily
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hey I just beat a boss 1st try in act 3 so its not too bad

wintry cedar
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Niiice

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I can’t wait for act 3 im so excited

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Act 2 was unsatisfying of an ending

elder ivy
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oh wait you havent gotten to act 3 yet meow?

wintry cedar
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No

elder ivy
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oh wow so there is quite a lot to solve after getting the ||three melodies huh||

unique lily
elder ivy
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I guess I'll do my best to solve it on my own but i'll come to you guys for hints if I am desperate 🙏

unique lily
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60 hour save file goes crazy 🔥

wintry cedar
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Cuz ||Hornet wouldn’t do that she wouldn’t perpetuate the cycle, she has no interest in being queen||

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Lilac don’t look

unique lily
wintry cedar
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And to an extent I wonder if it ties into her ||being part-Wyrm, cuz it’s in their nature to start civilizations||

unique lily
wintry cedar
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Oh thank godddd

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I’m so excited I’m trying so hard 😭😭

elder ivy
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yeah I'll leave the channel for now

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🫡

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good luck

wintry cedar
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Bye Lilac mwah ❤️

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Oh my god i found it

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I literally came to this area before why didn’t I see this 😭😭😭😭😭

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Jesus christ

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I think I found the ||flea|| and got lost

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Okay I don’t feel bad about asking .. thank you fraudlord you’re my savior

solar hound
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I need to know that LJ has the worst walk back in the game

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Somebody tell me it gets better

wintry cedar
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It does not have the worst

solar hound
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:[

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Thank you for your honesty 💔

wintry cedar
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There are shortcuts to take + try pogoing off heads and stuff

unique lily
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the worst was so bad I said fk it and just cheesed the boss bc I couldn't be bothered

wintry cedar
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Dude with this charm the bossfight is so much more tolerable oh my godddddd

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Oh my god

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I don’t feel like killing myself

wintry cedar
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Thank you for sparing me the pain

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Jesus christ it’s like night and day

unique lily
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I didn't feel too much pain bc I killed the boss in 10 seconds

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||architect|| goes brrrr

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I only had to do the runback 3 times but I was already so sick of it

austere wadi
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||Hornet just snapped this dude's neck.||

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Holy hell.

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And the leitmotif.

wintry cedar
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I literally spent 4 hours on the boss

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A majority of it being runback

wintry cedar
unique lily
wintry cedar
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Slab

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Sorry you didn’t get it 😔

unique lily
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I fully explored the slab but didn't see no neck snap

wintry cedar
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But yeah ||Hornet’s leitmotif plays during that segment||

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You missed it because ||you didn’t get kidnapped||

austere wadi
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||Died during the following gauntlet||, I can fire up my Twitch if you want to see it in action.

unique lily
wintry cedar
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I pity you

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It’s such a cool segment

austere wadi
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||I killed the jailer first appearance, after seeing it talked about here I let him grab me in Greymoor.||

wintry cedar
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OH WAIT GO TRY THAT

unique lily
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I'm actually so sad I missed it 💔

wintry cedar
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Schpoonman tell Fraud how to get napped

austere wadi
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He was right outside the ||Bellway|| entrance, try that.

unique lily
wintry cedar
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Awghhg

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Im so sorry

unique lily
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idk where else I can find him

wintry cedar
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I hope you get to experience it

austere wadi
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This absolute jamooka shake is ||swinging the needle around and wearing my cloak like a scarf.||

wintry cedar
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I knowwww hahahaa

unique lily
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😔

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yo the movesets on some of these late game crests are nuts

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the pogos are GODLIKE

austere wadi
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Is anything better than ||Wanderer + attack range|| pogo, though?

unique lily
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one is just straight up ||perma grubberfly's elegy||

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also lets gooo new wanderer enjoyer 🔥

austere wadi
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It's almost the Knight's moveset which is mostly what I wanted.

wintry cedar
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Yeah I was about to say

unique lily
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its so fast too

austere wadi
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Having a pogo that doesn't interrupt your momentum is pretty much bigger than anything else the game has given me so far.

wintry cedar
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I just got ||longclaw|| maybe I should try it

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I kinda like the stall! It gives me more time to anticipate

unique lily
austere wadi
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Hated Hunter and Beast's pogos (holy crap, Beast pogo is an abomination), Reaper was better but Hornet still lunges downward slightly before she swings.

unique lily
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there has to be at least one beast crest enjoyer out there

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surely

austere wadi
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"there has to be at least one person who loves smashing their pinky toe on furniture" A more likely scenario than a Beast enjoyer.

unique lily
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LMAOOO

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I really felt like the lifesteal gimmick a a lot of potential for combat if the duration was just a bit longer

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ok so

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out of curiosity I looked up if there's anything cool you can do with the beast crest

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and I found a video of a guy absolutely demolishing the high halls gauntlet with it

austere wadi
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Get behind me, Satan.

unique lily
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They were making perfect use of the lifesteal gimmick

wintry cedar
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Send

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I wanna watch

austere wadi
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...And my controller stopped working.

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I'd be flabbergasted if the controller were dead considering it is only connected to my computer via USB.

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But capitalism hates competition and I've had no shortage of trouble getting PS controllers to work on Windows, so.

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Maybe the official USB that came with the controller doesn't charge it while I'm playing.

wintry cedar
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OH MY GOD I THINK I DID IT

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OH MY GODDD

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I BEAT IT

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FINALLYYYYYYY

austere wadi
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The ||High Halls|| gauntlet?

wintry cedar
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The ||bilewater boss||

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I finally did it

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After 5 hours of trying

unique lily
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idk if this means the crest is good or if the player is good

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but this is the best beast crest feat I could find

wintry cedar
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God bless the queen

wintry cedar
unique lily
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interestingly, the video shows that the pogo is actually good for launching yourself into enemies and quickly retreating as he does to the last 2 guys

unique lily
unique lily
wintry cedar
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The one where he does ||vengeful spirit||?

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Yee

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The hunter’s journal shows they did ||soul experiments||

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Which makes it funny that he resembles the soul master

unique lily
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||yeah that and there's a snail shaman looking dead guy in the house after him where you pick up the seeker souls||

wintry cedar
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Yup I ate his ass

boreal isle
wintry cedar
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Nooooo

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Awgh that’s awful

unique lily
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😔

boreal isle
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"beast crest is insane" plays hit and run

unique lily
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well on the bright side, this definitely isn't my last playthrough of this game so I'll experience it some time in the future

unique lily
wintry cedar
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The baby in my pocket is pissing me off

boreal isle
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lol

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do u wanna know what to do with it

feral bobcat
wintry cedar
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Not quiitee yet but I might ask you later ❤️❤️

unique lily
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forgive me but that's the only thing I could find to help its case 😭

feral bobcat
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Oh i have nothing against u man

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Just judging them

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Again, im sure someone would have alotta say about my gameplay too
But still

unique lily
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I have used all the crests in the game atp and beast is just so far below the rest its insane

boreal isle
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beast does a lot of damage

unique lily
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does it?

boreal isle
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yeah lol

unique lily
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like in the lifesteal state or just normally

boreal isle
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lifesteal

unique lily
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hmmmm

feral bobcat
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Dmg boost or atack speed boost

boreal isle
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dmg

unique lily
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I genuinely think if lifesteal lasted like 2 secs longer it would be peak

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its so short 😭

boreal isle
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i wish this fgame was a rogueliek

unique lily
austere wadi
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Yeah, permawall cling did more in that Beast video than the Crest itself, I think.

feral bobcat
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If i have to fight ||signis beastfly lugoli gilf|| all in one continuous wave im crashing out

austere wadi
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And the DPS from Fury is probably easily made up with good Tool and charm usage.

boreal isle
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why are you saying gild

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gild

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gilf

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that is a mild

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milf

feral bobcat
feral bobcat
boreal isle
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its 2 words

unique lily
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now absolute milf on the other hand...

feral bobcat
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Still need to kill the cursed gilf tho

austere wadi
feral bobcat
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I keep dying in second phase

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Either I don't see the ||boulders|| or some ||lance||

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Or i miss my dodge/parry on the claw attack

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( nail parry )

boreal isle
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the grand budapest hotel isn't the older version of the budapest hotel

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how many masks do u got

unique lily
feral bobcat
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Im talking the cursed fight

boreal isle
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who tf uses wanderer's lmao

unique lily
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It's like my main 😭

feral bobcat
feral bobcat
boreal isle
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do you know what happens when you get the cursed ending

feral bobcat
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I just want it

boreal isle
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is that a no

feral bobcat
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Pizza said i gotta do it first or im locked outta it

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No

boreal isle
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awesome

feral bobcat
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Do i get fked

boreal isle
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not saying anything

feral bobcat
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Cuz i wanna keep pounding and nailing the gilf

austere wadi
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"Oh, Veggie. I'm a grandmother now. Call me 'GILF'."

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"Your culture is so confusing to me."

elder ivy
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Small update: (act 2 spoilers) ||got the double jump!!! and found the mask maker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wtf!!!!!! also that huge creature was sooo beautiful and magnificent !!! I love it.. this whole area is great I love it||

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I am now very very exhausted, I will take a break now before I continue my exploration

feral bobcat
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What does ||mask maker|| do

elder ivy
unique lily
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make masks

elder ivy
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I like him!!

feral bobcat
elder ivy
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he's as ||mysterious as cool as in the first game!!!! (though it's probably a different person? they talk very similarly though...)||

wintry cedar
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It’s a different person

unique lily
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my guess is that every land in the HK universe has a guy with the duty of mask maker

elder ivy
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oh ok, makes sense yeah!

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this game really only keeps getting better and better..... I've already said it's a 10/10 😭 what do I say now???? 11/10???

elder ivy
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it's so similar to Elden Ring in terms of what it achieves and how it wows me all the time..

unique lily
elder ivy
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yesssss

unique lily
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but act 3 tho

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holy shi

elder ivy
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omg I cant wait hahahaha

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but I gotta sleep and take a break 😔

unique lily
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my jaw is on the floor basically the whole time

unique lily
feral bobcat
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Now that u mention elden

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Im curiou

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In terms of difficulty, how hard is silksong compared to other such games
And how much harder do other games get
Stuff like the dark souls game i imagine

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I guess difficulty is relative to the game genre aswell since shooters or bullet hell games have their own unique type of difficulty but still

austere wadi
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I'm a hater and a hot taker, and I don't think any of FromSoft's Souls games are actually very difficult.

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They are primarily knowledge checks, each and every enemy.

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Just platforming alone puts Hollow Knight above it in difficulty, but I also think the execution of combat is significantly harder in HK.

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I struggle to imagine god runs (running all 6 core Souls games [Demon's Souls, DS1-3, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring] without taking damage a single time) in a series like Devil May Cry where you absolutely have the capacity to do no-hits but emphasis on moment-to-moment execution is much higher.

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Now I'm soft, but I've got a few HK near-100% files under my belt and I already think Silksong is significantly harder.

echo hazel
austere wadi
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Man, some of these later game shops are expensive.

austere wadi
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I think that's why they all (minus Bloodborne) rub me the wrong way. BB encourages more active combat participation juuust enough that my brain doesn't fry.

solar hound
austere wadi
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That's basically the 15 bead benches in the ||Underworks||.

elder ivy
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also wow I can't sleep I just spent 20 minutes writing down all the notes for what I havent done yet in Silksong and what I'll do next haha

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funny how pizza says he likes Elden Ring less because of delayed attacks but I feel like i prefer its difficulty a bit because Silksong can get a bit too hectic and fast for my liking

solar hound
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Man

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Hollow knight was one of the first actually difficult games I ever played

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Silksong feels so much easier to me because I used to be so terrible

elder ivy
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if you enjoy hollow knight you'll probably enjoye Elden Ring too!

solar hound
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I’ve heard! I don’t have anything that can run it though :’] maybe in the future

unique lily
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holy peak boss fight. Chat I think I found my favorite boss in the game

solar hound
unique lily
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she's hot, has a banger design and soundtrack, and has a nightmare king grimm type of flow

solar hound
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Can’t wait to fight a beautiful milf

unique lily
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OMG SHE'S LITERALLY A MILF

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LIKE LOREWISE

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I DIDNT EVEN THINK OF THAT

solar hound
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Oh? 😭 lucky guess

elder ivy
unique lily
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insert doofenshmirtz nickel joke

elder ivy
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all indie games lead to sprinting....

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sprinting is the pinnacle of game design!!

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we must all be sprinting everywhere

unique lily
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if only sprinting irl was as enjoyable 😔

elder ivy
solar hound
elder ivy
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the pale loser

solar hound
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The pasty king

harsh verge
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at least the pale king didnt have whatever the hell pharloom has going on...

elder ivy
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now imagine if in act 3 hornet stabs the ground and opens up a dark world in Pharloom 🔥

unique lily
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resisting the urge to give act 3 spoilers rn

elder ivy
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uh oh 😭 😭 😭

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can't wait to find out....

unique lily
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god I wish someone else was in act 3 rn so I could yap about how peak these bosses are

elder ivy
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💔 I'll get there eventually

unique lily
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lock in

elder ivy
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we can yap at each other about how great ||the phantom fight|| was though!!!!

unique lily
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true!

elder ivy
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the lore implications are crazy... ||you can do the needolin in one of the rooms and there is a silhouette of Lace doing some f*cked up stuff!!||

elder ivy
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||also the fight has a very similar moveset to Lace's!!! so they're definitely somewhat related...||

elder ivy
# unique lily omg you saw that too?

||she spun us to fade... or something like that... yes... I dont know what exactly it means but it sounds creepy as hell and it gave me goosebumps 😓 ||

unique lily
elder ivy
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||the whole thing with the mist and the exhaust organ is so mysterious.... I want to know more lore!!!!||

elder ivy
unique lily
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it will make sense as you approach the final boss

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no spoilers

elder ivy
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oh okaaay

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god damn it!! ahh

unique lily
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also weren't you going to sleep like 2 hours ago?

elder ivy
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yes but I couldn't because I am too hyped up to calm down 😔

unique lily
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real

elder ivy
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so instead I wrote a list of things I want to do next..

unique lily
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haha awesome

elder ivy
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I have like 20 different things I need to remember to do there hahaha

austere wadi
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Okay, who is calling ||Mount Fay|| Path 2.0? 'Cause ||the Cogwork Core|| was way harder.

unique lily
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ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE

austere wadi
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And it's not just because I've got ||Wanderer|| on right now, I'm mostly using ||Clawline||.

austere wadi
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I'm not done with it yet, but not only was ||Cogwork|| harder it's definitely closer in feel to the Path.

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L2 Harpoon, from ||the Cauldron||.

elder ivy
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In my opinion the difficulty is like this:
||sands of karak >> cogwork core >>>>>>> mount fay
Mount fay was honestly the least punishing.. so many benches and shortcuts!!! it was a ton of fun, I loved it||

unique lily
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cogwork isn't that crazy imo bc its like way shorter than PoP

austere wadi
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So is ||Mount Fay||.

unique lily
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karak is pretty tough but I like the coral gimmick

elder ivy
austere wadi
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Which makes sense, the Path was the final optional platforming challenge in HK.

unique lily
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yeah tbh there isn't a PoP level challenge in skong yet

elder ivy
elder ivy
unique lily
elder ivy
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omg I need to find a craftmetal

unique lily
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they finally made a good minion charm and its the most busted thing ever

elder ivy
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💔

elder ivy
austere wadi
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99% sure my cocoon placement just got me this last jump.

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It sure made it easier.

austere wadi
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I died the first run, thought "Man, that jump looked insane, I wonder if I'll be able to pogo off the cocoon," and then I did.

elder ivy
austere wadi
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I'm sure it's supposed to be an attainable jump but heck this platforming in the cold.

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Also you definitely don't need to see Shakra in the ||Sands|| for Ventrica pins, I left and came back after farming rosaries for the checkpoint bench and she had them for sale after asking for them the first time.

unique lily
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come to think of it, there's quite a few things in this game that seem inspired from HK mods. I wonder if team cherry actually follows the modding community

elder ivy
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YES

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very!

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I hated every single second of it!!

echo hazel
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i breezed through it idk, only died at the boss twice

elder ivy
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||1) I hate being on such a tight timer with the platforms disappearing under my feet, it disorients the hell out of me...
2) there is almost no healing at all.......
3) it's very long stretches with very few benches and shortcuts 😭||

elder ivy
echo hazel
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oh wait yeah one particular timed platform was really tough

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died at it once

elder ivy
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"once" 😭 wow

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god gamer here

austere wadi
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Uuuhh, does ||double jump also provide cold immunity||?

elder ivy
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oh so you were able to find your delicious ||crestnut|| then too?

austere wadi
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'Cause that's kinda sick, it makes sense in context.

echo hazel
elder ivy
echo hazel
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i love the platforming due to how mobile hornet is

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and you have a ton of mobility options

elder ivy
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yeah I think that's why I hate that area so much because it was sooo narrow and claustrophobic.. I couldnt enjoy the full mobility as much

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||Mount fay on the other hand allowed me to fully use the harpoon stuff and what not, it was more fun to me||

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much more spacious!

elder ivy
echo hazel
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the thing with controller is, imagine you're doing a right movement input. if you want to switch to left, you have to take L3 back to neutral position first, then take it left

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this makes it really hard to rapidly use different movement inputs

elder ivy
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ohhh yeah it does

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I hate it

echo hazel
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which is why i prefer keyboard for platforming games

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all 4 movement keys are simultaneously available to use

elder ivy
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I died a lot because I couldnt change my directions quickly enough yeah 😔

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that's a fair point..

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but the controller is more comfy....

echo hazel
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it's double important in silksong because of directional attacks

echo hazel
elder ivy
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I mess up my inputs a lot with doing a pogo or an upward slash or a side slash lol

echo hazel
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clearing the ||corals|| kept killing you huh

austere wadi
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I'm developing some mean wrist pain and controller is easier on it after a few hours.

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I did a keyboard HK run, it was fun and worked out well.

elder ivy
echo hazel
elder ivy
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🔥 !!!

echo hazel
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actually can't play hades 2 for too long at once

elder ivy
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-# I think i remember you saying that too

echo hazel
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i did?

elder ivy
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it was some joke but I dont remember the context 😔

echo hazel
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but i like resting and relaxing ☹️

elder ivy
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it was something about anxiety..

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nevermind 😔

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i'm already overexplaining the joke and it's not funny anymore 💔

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😭 that wolf made me giggle

echo hazel
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pfffft

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yeah i like that meme

unique lily
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damn

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have you guys ever had a feeling where you beat a really hard boss after struggling on it for a while but you feel sad that you finally beat it bc the fight was just that enjoyable?

austere wadi
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||Sherma please don't venture into Whiteward you will be got later.||

unique lily
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this boss was so fking good I genuinely think it might be a top 10 boss of all time for me. not even pure vessel, my favorite HK fight doesn't hold a candle to this one

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I wanna fight her again

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team cherry pantheons please

wintry cedar
unique lily
wintry cedar
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Also that was me with ||cogwork dancers||

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Ope I’m not unspoiling that but thanks for indulging my question anyway

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I will check it one day 🫡

unique lily
wintry cedar
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YESSSS

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Act 3 is promised to have literally everything I want whyyy am I not there yet…

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So mad

unique lily
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like I was already a fan of this game but wow I didn't expect act 3 to be so fking insane

wintry cedar
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I’m trying to explore all the map and find all the quests but it’s rough

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Godddd

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You’re sending my expectations through the roof

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Silksong is absolutely already one of the best games of all time

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And I haven’t even gotten to the best part 😭😭😭

unique lily
drowsy bear
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does anybody know how to keep ||pilby|| alive? ive been holding off on ||the skull tyrant quest bc i heard he dies||

solar hound
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Consistently getting to the last judge was harder than defeating her

austere wadi
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Yup.

solar hound
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Runback was so miserable that I fantasized about giving SS a bad review

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Now that it’s over I don’t car

austere wadi
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2 mask hazards are bad.

echo hazel
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Yes yes I’m sure it gets much worse

echo hazel
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if you only you knew the absolute horror waiting for you

solar hound
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And then I’ll fantasize about leaving them a bad review to get through it and once it’s done it’ll be like it never happened

echo hazel
solar hound
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TC is lowkey super mean-spirited for some of these runbacks

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Like the drill bugs spawning right on top of a platform or pogo? Please TC I’ve already proven I can do it just let me get to the boss istg

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Proven? Proved? I’m losing it

echo hazel
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I'm pretty deep and so far the only genuinely bad runbacks have been the one you experienced and the absolute horror waiting for you

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so just two

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every other runback was ok 👍

solar hound
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True

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LJ runback just felt so deliberately unkind

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Like the first time you do it you’re pranked and pranked again and then it just keeps happening

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Some of us are bad at the game TC we don’t want to have to do that 50 times

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Ah well it’s over so I can go back to loving the game in peace until the next bad runback

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I hold no grudges

fathom juniper
austere wadi
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'Sup, babe.

fathom juniper
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just checking in

austere wadi
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I'm sorry to do this to you, but there is a moment in Silksong you'd love.

fathom juniper
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the end credits? cacohyperspin

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just kidding

austere wadi
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||There's a stuck-in-jail-without-your-equipment sequence, and the last part of it involves you dropping from the ceiling onto the jailer's back and breaking his neck to reclaim your stuff.||

fathom juniper
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that actually sounds kinda cool

austere wadi
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I was very unprepared.

echo hazel
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at least so far

austere wadi
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My jaw dropped.

wintry cedar
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She’s so badass

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God I wish we could hear every single one of Hornet’s thoughts, the few crumbs we get are simply not enough for me

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Where’s her momma

austere wadi
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Where is Hornet's momma?

wintry cedar
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Yeah 😔 she misses her momma

white lotus
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The rewards of ||Bilewater|| make it so worthwhile to visit

austere wadi
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@unique lily Got the bastard.

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||Magma Bell and Pollip Pouch'd Cogfly.||

white lotus
austere wadi
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I've got a Bellway there, I still don't have the map.

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And there's the map.

white lotus
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Want advice?

austere wadi
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Doing well so far, but thank you.

white lotus
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I just realised the advice won't even help you, but yeah. Good luck. Don't give up too soon. It's worth it.

solar mulch
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isn't hornet's momma dead

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wait, that implies it's a sequel

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I think there was a runback I saw on stream where a lava slug was always around, and god forbid you try to refreah your mind on the walkthrough there, with even a small gliding segment along the way

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and that fight took hours of attempts before they beat it, and they're a much better gamer than me

white lotus
# solar mulch isn't hornet's momma dead

Well... She wasn't exactly really alive before... Also, hornet never left the nest in her life because bugs lose their mind when they leave. So it should have been a sequel in the first place

solar mulch
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wait, they do?

austere wadi
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Yeah, the Pale King's influence gave bugs in Hallownest sentience.

solar mulch
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ohhh

austere wadi
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There is some implication that it's not exclusively a gift from the Pale King already, given that Weavers were either explicitly or just implicitly immigrants to Hallownest.

solar mulch
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I should preface I am actually just playing silksong without having played hollow knight; my knowledge is stuff from mossbag

fathom juniper
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You guys wanna see something cool?

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That isn’t silksong

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Gotta ping @austere wadi for that

white lotus
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Ofc we don't know if the losing one's mind applies to Hornet or if she knows that it doesn't apply to her.
There is a lot of nuance.
Maybe se was dragged directly from hallownest

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||Bilewater|| gauntlet second attempt. Experts foresee a worse result than before

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The experts weren't exactly wrong but they weren't exactly right... What is that boss😭

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The pain

austere wadi
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There's a "modern action-oriented" Postal spin-off on sale right now. Came out a few years ago, it's got really good reviews.

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# white lotus The pain

the pain even that boss its the way up to the guy bouldy || are you going the looooooooong way or not||

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white lotus
austere wadi
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||I found what was supposed to be a second bench close to the top of Bilewater and it turned out to be a trap.||

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I'll try a little more tomorrow.

white lotus
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Nah ok I am out of ideas

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What's the way?

white lotus
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But there is ||no way to avoid the trap|| so it made no sense to tell

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Like maybe

fathom juniper
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I still have to finish p4 first but I can’t
Cause the goddam theme park mission softlocked peepoMadrage

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# white lotus What's the way?

||there is a hidden bench, accessible through the second last layer before the boss layer, that drops down through maggot water on the far end||

white lotus
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Do I reach it from above or from below?

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through maggot water zagsad

white lotus
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I am killing an ||Italian flamboyant artist|| right now

white lotus
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well to be clear taking the short way ends with maggot water hp zagsad

white lotus
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I just thought I should recite the mantra ||there is no war in Ba Sing Se|| as a reminder that there are no benches in ||Bilewater||

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no

white lotus
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the short way makes you enter the water but the longer way might result in it anyway cause you got to have to go through more of it xd

white lotus
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Because I am not good enough to hurt enough enemies

white lotus
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When I deal with this bug with a gigantic ego I will try

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Dankeschön

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kein ding brudi

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🤣

white lotus
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Oh my god... ||Poor Sherma||
Buddy
It's going to be alright

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Probably

toxic crater
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I have a Yes/No question. I’m trying to do this without a guide, but I don’t want to do anything permanent.

The question is this: should I get out of ||The Slab|| as quickly as possible?

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I guess the implied question is if I can go back or not.

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if that answers it

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its a normal region like every other area on the map

toxic crater
solar mulch
# white lotus Wow... That's hardcore... HK will be a breeze if you do it afterwards. Are you e...

enjoying it, yeah. there's some stuff that's a serious pain in the rear (flying enemies if you can't thread storm them, hunter's march parkour costing me 300 rosaries really early, ||last judge ending||), but otherwise it's amazing. hornet is fun and flexible, though can be finnicky in weird ways that don't really add anything meaningful for being so tight (try ||dash|| into jump)

the 2 dmg is not really bad, but it would've been nicer if there were more ||masks|| so that hornet feels less stable defensively instead of just weaker. and ||beastfly|| is overrated (rather, bench placements are awful); it's very similar to ||splinter sister||, who I liked fighting because I nearly no-hit ||her|| the time I won

white lotus
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the game has notable issues with the walk of shame and really tanky bosses. the latter I get if they're fun to fight, but the former sucks for anyone, even if you were really good at the game like the testers clearly were

mb, gonna add em

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playing HK after SS will be so weird lol, especially the movement and obviously bosses are very different in that game for that reason

white lotus
jolly locust
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SS is just perfect for me tbh, there is a lot of things i dislike in HK, still have 86 hours on it ofc

white lotus
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But it is crazy good yes

jolly locust
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but you get my point

white lotus
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jolly locust
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also the crest system is sick

white lotus
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jolly locust
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expecting atleast 1 new crest each dlc lol

white lotus
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white lotus
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white lotus
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I mean the boss

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solar mulch
# white lotus The runbacks are meant to teach you the game after all. If you still suffer too ...

not really, I already learnt the lesson. the problem is the possibility of getting hurt and then going back to the bench to do it all again because fighting the boss nearly dead makes no sense

||last judge is especially criminal for this. widow is not so bad, but even then I'm waiting for the fat flies to get out of my way, elongating the runback when there could've not been any. I'm fairly certain many games have catered to this over time (I know elden ring and lies of P do to some extent)||

white lotus
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The ||architect|| is so cool and op, but I am unsure about my skill

white lotus
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sadly enough the runback to ||the judge|| aint even the worst one 💀

white lotus
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solar mulch
# white lotus What lesson have you learnt if you reach the boss nearly dead? You learn the les...

I do make it there with full hearts. but I'm not beyond human; I'm going to mess up and just waste lots of time when there could've been none.

like imagine the only way you get to practice against pure vessel and nightmare king grimm is to play pantheon 5 over and over again for the one attempt and hopefully learn their ins and outs to win that time or remember what you could've done as they rip you 2 hearts per touch

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I gotta feeling there's gonna be a boss in ||sinners|| and it makes this look like childs play. ||benching the second I ever touch maggot water...||

white lotus
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Ironically the longer runbacks are what make you better at the game

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act 3 spoiler || just found the game complete % gauge and i thought i did a lot|| but i only have ||82% 💀 ||

white lotus
solar mulch
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mb, but I'm struggling to explain this one. I guess it's just... why can't I just enjoy the boss? I'm really not paid to master the game, I'm no streamer nor tester. and ||last judge|| is really fun; I kinda wish there was a place to fight ||her|| again after I properly win

this ain't gonna stop me from playing nor liking it, but I know our time can mean more to us than that

white lotus
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not the delete and 180 bouldy

solar mulch
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I didn't see the deleted message, for better or worse. not curious enough about it to care

white lotus
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I cannot say too much

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Them vermins have a grip on me

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white lotus
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💀

echo hazel
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echo hazel
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so it's a little deep into the act

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currently doing side wishes

solar mulch
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lowkey I hope they don't nerf the difficulty too much. I gotta feeling that if airborne ai wasn't so neutrally evasive and even just 1 more full mask around for act 1, they could totally keep the 2 damage ubiquity (except for the parkour)

anyone here use ||beast crest||? I think it seems pretty neat, and thinking of converting into it, but I gotta feeling that the horizontal movement is wack for most

echo hazel
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echo hazel
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also did you get the ||silk nails|| or whatever the name was

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it's the sixth and last spell

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echo hazel
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the ||beast summon with needolin|| really sped up the exploration in act 3

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white lotus
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Btw can you even pogo the spikes with the very first pogo? The hunter?

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echo hazel
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the hunter sounds familiar

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which boss is that

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echo hazel
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oh bruh you meant the crest

echo hazel
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the hitbox is a little awkward though, you gotta get used to it

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just a funny question, why can nearly every npc that you have to || search|| for || fly|| and hornet can't 💀

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# echo hazel she has legs

but for example the || needler bug|| she also got legs but she can || fly with her cape 💀 || atleast thats how it is depicted in her "tracks"

white lotus
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I'm using ||wanderer|| because of ||quickslash||

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white lotus
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They eat them

white lotus
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cause there is a || quest reward up there that makes wanderer|| better bouldy

white lotus
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I saved poor buddy ||Sherma|| and now with the correct relic I should have ||enough silk to hea twice||

white lotus
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Time to swim

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Hhhmmmm ||maggots||

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Yummy

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But first lunch.

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Gotta fuel the hate

echo hazel
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which act are you in

echo hazel
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the ||nail range tool||?

white lotus
white lotus
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I'll admit it is not easy though

jolly locust
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just reached act 3, everything is peak

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and the new ||ability ||is so good

elder ivy
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Damn everyone is in act 3 now..

jolly locust
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well im at 52 hours so

elder ivy
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Same!!!

feral bobcat
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Im still act 2

elder ivy
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But I guess I'm just slower

feral bobcat
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Need to kill ||twisted bud gilf||

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Then i still need ||bile mist karak||

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And probably some secrets too

jolly locust
feral bobcat
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Oh and the door in the left of the map

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Something that starts with w

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Below ,||blasted steps||

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I dont have the key

elder ivy
feral bobcat
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Or the ||slab apostate key||

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Or two metal for ||architect and bomb tool||

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Im missing so f in much

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Crazy how i reached final boss with only 2 skills

jolly locust
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yeah there is so many optional stuff

feral bobcat
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I just want my keys and metal kan

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Man

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Please tell me the ||apostate key|| is not in some weird region

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I searched the entirety of slab and its not there

feral bobcat
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jolly locust
feral bobcat
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At least i dont have to keep searching there like a moron

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Anyway for now, ||twisted bud gilf||

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I need that ending

austere wadi
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I need the ||Twisted Bud|| out of my inventory, where do I go?

feral bobcat
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Phase 1 i can get through but i took stupid hits, if i can do it hitless again then phase 2 would be decent

feral bobcat
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If its only the crying that makes u wanna get rid of it, idk, id hold off on it

feral bobcat
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What

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I was told the ||bud is for getting a grand mother silk kill different ending|||

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So ive been fighting her with the status effect for maybe 1 hour

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Do i not need to do that?

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Cuz the moment i saw the ||twisted bud|| i knew it would be tied to ||yarnaby|| due to his dialogue but noone told me bout that

jolly locust
feral bobcat
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||Oh so after the quest I cant get the endinga||

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||So ending-> quest right?||

jolly locust
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but yes

feral bobcat
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Yeah was gonna but i had to put the phine down for 2 sec

jolly locust
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or you know, i havent done it but ill be very surprised if thats not the case lol

feral bobcat
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I mean i feel like i can do it

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Phase 1 is ok

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And thats when i was tired af yesterday after 10 hours of silksong and like 5 of tf2

jolly locust
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its the best to do that ||last last but no one knows about it on their playthrough at first so ||

feral bobcat
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How would it be last tho if the order is as mentioned before

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Or u mean relative to exploring regions n such

jolly locust
feral bobcat
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Oh fair

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I dont

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But ill get it done

jolly locust
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same i already finished that so many hours ago

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and reverting my save now would make me so weak lol

feral bobcat
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7 hearts and only 2 nail upgrades

jolly locust
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im sure there will be ||99% files eventually for that purpose||

feral bobcat
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I just also wanna know tho

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Do i find a key or metal in ||bile mist karak||

jolly locust
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what do you mean?

feral bobcat
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Simple keys and crafting metal

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Need to. Open a door and buy something from ||architect|| and craft the ||bomb||

jolly locust
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unsure, there is a lot in this game to keep track on lol

feral bobcat
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Those 3 areas ive not explored yet

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Fair fair

jolly locust
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there is the interactive map though on mapgenie website

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but that might spoil other things for you

feral bobcat
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Those 2 resourcs and skills are what i hope id find sooner than later

feral bobcat
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I dont wanna like se exact locations that kinda took away from my hk experience

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Just hints, yes or no answers so i know ive something to look forward to

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Cuz if theyre not there then i need to clear all regions start to finish every corner of the map

jolly locust
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i dont really keep track of those specifics im just running around basically but im mostly done exploring literally the whole map

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like i dont know ||where the apostate key is i just know i didnt get it in the slab|| lol

feral bobcat
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I mean i also barely remember anything

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I just run around hit mobs and walls

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Bash my head against anything that looks bashable

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Works like charm

jolly locust
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if you struggle with the ||bilewater|| boss btw let me know, there is a very good semi-cheese, but also kinda intended, just making use of the are

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there is actually 2 ways to do it easier so its not really a cheese since you can still die if you mess up, it doesnt make it a free win

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so its more just a strategy to make use of the arena and his moveset

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i honestly like it

feral bobcat
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Ill see what i wanna do first after the ending

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I was thinking ||mist phantom||

jolly locust
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thats also very good

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everything in this game is just so good lol

feral bobcat
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Kinda spoiled myself the ||butterfly needlolin|| tho

jolly locust
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feral bobcat
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Sure but i love finding out what y can needolin

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Like the ||old penitent||

jolly locust
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nice just started today and im currently doing the wishes in bellheart, didnt do much exploring yet :I

jolly locust
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ive mostly focused on exploring before i started progressing it

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well i did go to || the abyss already and got the abillity and percentage gauge||

jolly locust
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the new ||needolin ability|| is sick

white lotus
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But understandable

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well i found about that || bench|| around the 2 1/2 hour mark of my 5 hour ||bilewater||journey bouldy

jolly locust
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i can do it pretty much hitless now

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or could atleast

white lotus
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elder ivy
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@wintry cedar have you figured out what to do with ||the crying baby yet||?

jolly locust
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i could help if you want it

elder ivy
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no i dont need help

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oki

elder ivy
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I already did it, I was just curious if meow did it too

jolly locust
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ahh so you did the ||painfull thing||

elder ivy
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yeaaaaah

toxic crater
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Just curious: how many crests are there overall?

jolly locust
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really want more crests with future dlcs

elder ivy
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elder ivy
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Omg 😭

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cause i just wanted to finish that quest and do the finaly and i couldnt be bothered

elder ivy
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Why do you spoil such fun for yourself

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Oh well

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Fair enough... I will take pleasure in having figured it out on my own haha

toxic crater
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elder ivy
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I love riddles in this game haha

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well i did every other riddle with fun, || the memory bells or the pushing crates ||

elder ivy
white lotus
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speaking of which ||did you find a use for the mechanical heart if you did it?||

jolly locust
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where is my pantheon area? please release that dlc asap

elder ivy
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The true ending was riddle enough for me 💀 and i liked that one, because i had no negative while solving it, running around with no heal and searching for stuff is kinda meh for me

elder ivy
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Wait you finished the game completely already????

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Jfc

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😭

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well i did the true ending, thats all im gonna say bouldy

elder ivy
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Oh ok hahaha

jolly locust
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one of my friends got 100% in it like 2-3 days ago or so

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im around || 83%|| finished with the game per my || percent gauge||

white lotus
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Time to change crest

jolly locust
# white lotus Pogoing the boss isn't easy

yeah i meant the other enemies ||before that||, for the boss ||he cant hit you ever if you just swim in the bottom left corner, its a no heal fight though due to that but just have to take it really slow ||

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but you cant pogo the guy for more than || 2-3 times||

jolly locust
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white lotus
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but his || patterns are fairly simple|| if i can say that after needing 50+ tries 💀

elder ivy
# wintry cedar No lol

lmaooo that crying was so insufferable to me I wanted desperately to figure it out asap haha

wintry cedar
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Is a babby

elder ivy
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🥺 but it's ugly

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I dont like ugly babies

wintry cedar
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I may be annoyed but I would never harm my baby

wintry cedar
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beby

wintry cedar
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beb

wintry cedar
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Baobab

elder ivy
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Babylon..

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elder ivy
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I dont get it 😔

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if we had the tower of babylon we could speak the language used it hk*

elder ivy
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do you mean Babel?

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it's the tower of Babel 😭

elder ivy
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lmaooo it's okay

elder ivy
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an easy mistake to make ❤️

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فجأة لم افهمك؟؟؟

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💀

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(I was going to make this joke in german but then I remembered you do actually speak german so it wouldnt work...)

solar hound
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You speak Arabic?

elder ivy
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no I made a joke about the tower of babel 😔

solar hound
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O I did not see the backlog

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Guten tag

solar hound
elder ivy
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Guten Morgen*

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its too late for that 💀

elder ivy
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it's 10:45 for me bouldy

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it would be either Guten Abend, Guten Nachmittag bouldy

solar hound
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Or gute nacht you never know

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Anyone could be anywhere

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elder ivy
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or Guten Tod!!

elder ivy
solar hound
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Good death? The better version of a gute nacht

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Silksong has had many

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How do you say bad in German

elder ivy
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schlecht

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or schlimm

solar hound
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Schlecht tod

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I dunno about adjective noun agreement or anything

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I just stick the words together and hope

elder ivy
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it would be "schlecter Tod" then yeah

solar hound
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Schlecter tod 🥹

elder ivy
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or "schlechten Tod" in Akkusativ

solar hound
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….is that Swiss German or something

elder ivy
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no it's HOCHDEUTSCH

solar hound
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Standard German 👍 MelGrin

elder ivy
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german grammar is quite annoying sometimes 😔

solar hound
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I don’t speak a lick of it

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This has been very informative

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Danke

austere wadi
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The only baby I want in a game is Bon Bonne from Mega Man Legends.

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15 years since we had our dreams stolen from us once again.

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Oh god, it's been almost 20 years since I took German. I wonder how many games have death montages set to Komm, süsser Tod on YouTube.

elder ivy
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chat It's so hard to focus on my homework when all I can think about is Silksong 😔 💔

solar hound
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Garama

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Shaw

white lotus
white lotus
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Bad game

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0/10

austere wadi
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Fari dula sima net

white lotus
elder ivy
elder ivy
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lmaoo yeah I agree

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@echo hazel imagine if by the time you come back from your vacation Team Cherry will nerf everything 💔

echo hazel
echo hazel
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oh also bench and bellway prices will be decreased

elder ivy
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but yeah I know, I'm glad we are already past those

upper chasm
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Is pablo an actual hk thing or am i getting trolled by people

elder ivy
upper chasm
elder ivy
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it's just like Togore from Deltarune

upper chasm
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I also know nothing about deltarunw

elder ivy
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fandom made their own character, a secret brother of the protagonist and a lot of people treat him as if he's canon now 😭

wintry cedar
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It’s just like prunsel

austere wadi
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Jesus Christ.

upper chasm
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What in the goddamn hell is a prunsel 😭

austere wadi
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Why does Pablo have a straight razor on a toothpick?

wintry cedar
upper chasm
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Oh undertale!!

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I know that one !

elder ivy
# upper chasm Ohhh pfft

to the point that they tricked the stupid google AI into actually spreading misinformation that this character is actually real 😭

upper chasm
upper chasm
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Giving bilbically accurate angel

upper chasm
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Pablo is just like zagreus from hades2

elder ivy
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Pablo's design is pretty cool!

upper chasm
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He does look adorable

elder ivy
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cutie

echo hazel
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a hammer for a weapon is an interesting design choice

wintry cedar
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Don’t some forge enemies have hammers or am I hallucinating

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No I’m hallucinating

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I was thinking of hammer bros from mario 😔

elder ivy
wintry cedar
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Deer God

solar hound
unique lily
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yo why does skong have like 4 different types of ||guns||?

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between that and the rosary economy you'd be forgiven for thinking ||pharloom is in america||

unique lily
echo hazel
elder ivy
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fraud you should go hibernate for a couple of days so we all can catch up 😭

unique lily
echo hazel
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I don't think i can choose a favorite boss anymore

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the game was just banger after banger after banger boss

elder ivy
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I am honestly extremely impressed that Team Cherry were willing to put their allegedly best content in the game in a place where very few people will reach because you have to solve a lot of mysteries to even get to act 3 in the first place....... I respect it so much ❤️

unique lily
echo hazel
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i really liked ||second lace|| but i had upgraded my nail a lot so she died so fast i could barely enjoy the fight ☹️

unique lily
unique lily
echo hazel
echo hazel
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you have to ||randomly meet him twice in the citadel|| to trigger the wish

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so i went around just exploring places i thought ||he could show up||

unique lily
echo hazel
wintry cedar
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I mean it makes vague sense

wintry cedar
feral bobcat
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?

austere wadi
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||Lace's|| journal entry does kinda foreshadow ||a second fight||.

unique lily