h1-victory-boasting

[severe jungle]

But you want a different attack boon

[rain ruin]

And if you go spread fire don’t go for Zeus attack

[vernal storm]

ok. I suppose this means I got somewhat better at the game, managing to make it with a sub par combination XD

For spreadfire, would it be poseidon's boom? Get in close, blast'em into walls and into bits.

May be weaker on bosses, though

[rain ruin]

Nope

Poseidon’s attack is the worst attack in the game and it’s pretty much always incorrect

Go for Artemis -> Heartrend or Ares -> ME

We should move to another channel

[vernal storm]

Yeah, fair

[winged iron]

4/6 32 heat weapons
that athena dd carried me so hard

[zinc lintel]

Is this just a new file for the fun of it or anything special?

[primal crown]

That Doom got hands

[violet bloom]

im bored

i also kinda want to do a ff run so i started a new file to sorta practice

[zinc lintel]

Nice

[sudden sierra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/858522335119933461/964592734243553310/20220415112653_1.jpg

[primal crown]

I hate that emote

[ebon berry]

LFGstare isn't real, it can't hurt you

[twin karma]

delete this

[twin karma]

purple rd

[jade forge]

Finally got my first victory after many failed tries... Always seem to lose it in the Styx to the poison and then get wrecked by Hades himself.

[vivid sedge]

this is a ridiculously good combination... i never even got a boon for main attack because i never found a good one

[warm notch]

did you at least have shackle

[vivid sedge]

i um

didnt think about that

[warm notch]

lol

[severe jungle]

Do you use fated persuasion

[warm notch]

uh by the way. for finding specific attack boons. if you grab boons for your other slots special, dash, and cast youll have an attack offered 90% of the time when grabbing a boon

[vivid sedge]

i dont have enough darkness lmfao

im still pretty new to the game

[warm notch]

also after grabbing boons from 4 different gods not including hermes youll see boons from only those 4 and hermes

[vivid sedge]

oh thats helpful

i did know the latter thing

[warm notch]

useful to keep in mind when you're gunning for specific boons

[solid crest]

Got double bonuses with Chaos on this victory run. Highest amount of darkness I've ever gotten in a single place.

[topaz finch]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

this was my best run

[solid crest]

very fast; did you use your cast often? @topaz finch

[topaz finch]

i basically use special then just shotgun the cast

the post special buff is insane for casts

[solid crest]

Ah I see, I've always avoided getting her cast except for the one time I needed it for the achievement.

But maybe I should try it out 👀

[topaz finch]

its definitely not the best but shotgunning stuff is too fun for me to not use it

[warm notch]

its good damage but for achilles ideally you want a cast with more range as the weapon already has the close up damage covered

[stoic sinew]

:)

not a win yet, but soon enough

like i just have the call the moment i start combat, plus it's stoopid easy to make it a greater call

so im just very much invis all the time

[fervent night]

Does that work against hades??

[stoic sinew]

yes

it does

it is also really funny

cause zag goes "FATHER!"
hades goes "what?"

once i get to him ill send a screenshot

[fervent night]

Ghfjx

[stoic sinew]

@lunar peak

[violet bloom]

That's a big number

[stoic sinew]

really big

[red hollow]

first ever close to 10 mins run yeet

[severe jungle]

Idk about really big

[hollow jacinth]

Gilgamesh 👀

[red hollow]

yes I only pressed dash and attack how did you guess

[violet bloom]

gilgamesh

[granite basalt]

haha 3 duos

worked pretty nicely with zeus shield

I had the doom stack per attack thing so it stacked to high amounts

[winged iron]

autoaim hestia feels like cheating
and i didn't even get clockets

only 32 heat sword to go

[violet bloom]

besita

[severe jungle]

Hestia busted

Been saying this

[clear geode]

quite a fun run, with a bonkers special

[spiral wind]

first 32 heat run

also my 100th run

[violet bloom]

Nice

Lvl 1 cast

[spiral wind]

you bet

the poms werent giving me the cast to level up, and i really didn’t want to use my FPs

[primal crown]

Gaming

[bold jolt]

damn lvl 1 cast that's impressive lmao

[warm notch]

not bad with beo to skip and sell filler boons to get more poms

[severe jungle]

Yeah you do not want that many pommable boons on Beo

[rain ruin]

bit of memeing while on vacation, garbage play as usual

[spiral wind]

still better than i’ll ever be

[severe jungle]

Wrong channel

[clear geode]

certified gamer moment

[rigid cave]

Sorry

[winged iron]

this weapon stinks

but i got all weapons 32 heat!

that was a lot easier than i expected tbh

quick recovery carried me

[stoic sinew]

utterly massive

[severe jungle]

Less than a boonless Hestia empowered shot

[stoic sinew]

less than an Arthur boonless second and third swipe

less than a boonless maim

[severe jungle]

Second is only 80

So no

[stoic sinew]

less than uhh
4 casts in one Hera shot with dyonisus boom

[severe jungle]

60/80/200

[stoic sinew]

ok

[severe jungle]

If 131 damage off a crit is “utterly massive”, you’ll love getting 1.6K off a crit with Hestia lmao

[stoic sinew]

do you know sarcasm

I've gotten 1.8 k with Hera and Artemis cast

it was just a thing i was curious about

[severe jungle]

Yes and I’ve gotten 6K with Trippy Beo. We’ve all seen big numbers

[stoic sinew]

yes

[vivid sedge]

this build is amazing

shreds everything lmao

[severe jungle]

Twin + Perfect

Yep adds up

[vivid sedge]

and the build makes everything crit like 50% of the time

and all the time when something gets marked

[severe jungle]

Well you can’t consistently deflect every two seconds

But yeah the crit chance is quite good

[primal girder]

that is a nice build

[near sparrow]

Yay my 2nd Hades run with chiron bow lvl 4 build. So happy XD

[primal girder]

critron

[primal crown]

the blessed hammers

[novel timber]

im sure this happens plenty but i feel pretty good about it. have now claimed 200 consecutive victories over Hades

[fervent night]

Nice!

[rain ruin]

beeg call

[rain ruin]

over the top build, sub2 EM4

Gorgon head killed in about 3 seconds

[violet bloom]

Poggie

[lunar peak]

poggar

[rigid venture]

yeyyy I completed my first run... sadly I didnt play with the steam ui activated so I couldnt get an screenshot of my stats, but it was with the minigun or whatever is the last weapon called

I just won because I had 5 revives lmaooo

[zinc lintel]

Common jolted 😔

[rain ruin]

unmodded 5:56

[severe jungle]

[violet bloom]

Poggie

[sudden sierra]

not too interesting of a run but i did get the chaos defiance thing

also tried hera, not sure if im doing it good but whatevs

[vivid sedge]

got twin + perfect again lmfao

its so ridiculously good

[azure stream]

first sword win, absolutely LOVE the cast build, does so much damage

[primal girder]

POS SWORD GAMERS

[severe jungle]

10%

[charred finch]

I managed to get my PB from 15:31 to 13:20 with cluster rockets! They're so fun!

[rain ruin]

Nice, if you plan on speedrunning there’s quite a but of optimizations that’ll make it a lot more consistent and easier

[charred finch]

Would you care to share some sources, if it's not too much of a hassle for you, of course.

[zinc lintel]

Join the Hades Speedrunning server and then check the pins in #speedtech for a really solid starting guide

[charred finch]

@rain ruin thanks for the advice! Managed to get another half a minute or so off

[rain ruin]

Nice! Try forcing Poseidon in Asphodel next time and take his dash and put a couple poms in it, also in Styx and potentially Elysium too you can take Sigil of the Dead or Hourglass even as it is more offensive than Acorn, Acorn is still solid to keep HC uptime nonetheless, too bad the second Hermes didnt cooperate on this one but well done

[charred finch]

Alright! Gotcha, I'll try that.

[violet bloom]

dont need splash dash tbh wmic got wr without it

[rain ruin]

Well I wouldnt say that, most runners are actually gonna need it

You can meme around once you’re an Eris master

[viral elm]

wmic simply too skilled

[rain ruin]

Getting a WR without it doesn’t make it an unnecessary pick, you can watch his run before he got clockets, and it was kinda painful, you know the top end is a lot about skipping the biomes rather than playing them and the main issue would be your bossing in which Clockets + Zeus are enough to handle, for rooms I’d always take Splash dash however

[violet bloom]

i was joking

[rain ruin]

[zinc lintel]

SMH you didn’t use the Bouldy tone indicator how were we supposed to know it was a joke

[clever lion]

yo first time :)

[primal crown]

Gaming

[winged iron]

triple chain shot

hit as many enemies as possible

[light basin]

im a legit eletric eel lmao

[severe jungle]

Nice sea storm build

[light basin]

pity i couldnt get hermes extra dash talent

else i would have given up on attacking and just zap around hahahaa

[zinc lintel]

ROD

[primal girder]

R O D

[sudden sierra]

Had a decent hera run

[severe jungle]

Pom efficiency!

[twin karma]

Fresh File to Talos wr

[severe jungle]

LMAO

Let’s go!

[ember bay]

Christ this shredded through hades

[violet bloom]

EGG

[ember bay]

ignore the egg

lmao

am just grinding lvls for keepsakes

[twin karma]

egg

there is no ignoring egg

[ember bay]

O_O

[bitter gorge]

omg

[light basin]

backstabbing is fun

[warm notch]

cruel thrust gaming

[clear geode]

[lunar peak]

[charred finch]

Holy moly guacamole, amazing job!

[restive nest]

Count it!

[violet bloom]

casual sub 6

[rain ruin]

Indeed

casual gamer afterall

[violet bloom]

true

[coral scroll]

i cant find the one where i cleared on 8 heat

heree

[primal girder]

congrats!!

[severe jungle]

Flurry
Flurry serrated

[coral scroll]

Why?

[zinc lintel]

Serrated makes dash attack animation take longer so you can’t actually get out as many attacks as you normally could w/ flurry

[winged iron]

okay is it just me or is beowulf the best weapon by far why was this so easy

was it just rng or is beo that good

[severe jungle]

It’s crazy good

[winged iron]

you just don't get hit and when you hit them it's for like 1/4 of the health bar

[severe jungle]

Also nice hammers lmao

Very strong build

[winged iron]

are those the optimal hammers

[severe jungle]

Pretty much

Some prefer Ferocious Guard over Sudden if you already have CShot but it’s preference

[winged iron]

how fast do you have to be to get hermes would be jealous

[severe jungle]

I think sub12?

[rain ruin]

That build barely has any juice too wait until you get an insane one

[severe jungle]

Chaos and wells can make things pretty stupid

[zinc lintel]

3 sad Hermes hurts to see

[violet bloom]

not even close

[winged iron]

ez

[winged iron]

got my first hermes would be jealous
beowulf is so overpowered i love it so much

[severe jungle]

Beo gang

[jaunty haven]

how do get those cool quips like "hermes would be jealous" ive also gotten then but idk how it works

[winged iron]

clear a run with a certain requirement

like "big shopping trip too" would be getting midshops in all three areas

hermes would be jealous is beating it in under 12 minutes

[jaunty haven]

do they show the requirments anywhere

[winged iron]

no

[jaunty haven]

ohh okay

tyty

[clear oar]

First Win

:)

[winged iron]

nice slicing shot run

[clear oar]

thank you

:)

[severe jungle]

CShot PulvBlow Sudden Rush lmao holy hammers

[primal girder]

heaven hammers

[vivid sedge]

fun run for spin please ignore the aspect i wasnt planning on going for this but it worked out

[severe jungle]

Achilles is actually a better spin aspect than Hades lol

[vivid sedge]

...really?

[severe jungle]

Yes

Hades sucks

[vivid sedge]

interesting

[severe jungle]

Get that +125% spin damage from Achilles

[primal girder]

spin2win

[sudden sierra]

new pb. Probs wouldve done faster if i got the sack sooner but eh, what can yo udo

[clever lion]

op zeus run lmao

the rng was on my side

[charred finch]

Heyy, nice one!

[clever lion]

:D thanks

sadly the game crashed right after that screen

so the progress didnt save

but at least i got the ss

[charred finch]

That's omega sad D:

[clever lion]

yeah it was first shield run as well 😔

[charred finch]

Welp, more motivation to get better times right?

[clever lion]

yep

just a path to becoming a better player ig

still sad tho

[ebon berry]

I believe the wiki has them

[severe jungle]

Yes, they can all be found online for certain

[ebon berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771815559410876446/966314084628824134/3106.png

gaming

[primal crown]

Angel gaming

[zinc lintel]

Common angel W

[rain ruin]

zadge

[sudden sierra]

new pb

[coral scroll]

Idk why it says i have 1 clear on the spear or that its my best time... I think the game is bugging

[violet bloom]

did you have god mode on for those wins?

[severe jungle]

Either you’re doing some aggressive hammer resets or you’re getting very lucky lmao

So many flurry jab Achilles clears

Ggs

[coral scroll]

No

I opened god mode to see what it was (this run)

then closed it

does god mode do that?

[violet bloom]

if you get any wins with god mode on then they will be tracked separately

[coral scroll]

Oh

i didnt get wins in god mode

[violet bloom]

but i dont see the godmode thing in your boons

[coral scroll]

i opened and closed god mode this run

[coral scroll]

Hammer resets?

Do you mean resetting the run or rerolling?

[severe jungle]

Resetting runs until you get a specific hammer

[coral scroll]

oh

i never do that

i mostly get flurry jab on my first hammers

idk why

[severe jungle]

That’s very lucky

Flurry Jab is extremely good on Achilles

[warm notch]

maybe just turning on god mode enough to count as god mode win even if you turn it off

[coral scroll]

Yes! I love it

Though, i was using Lady Artemis' attack boon and i had a rough time with it, then i got an epic Attack boon from Lady demeter and that changed the tide i guess.

[severe jungle]

Artemis attack is the best option with flurry jab

[warm notch]

artemis better if youre constantly refreshing the special

crits take into account the bonus dmg from raging rush

[coral scroll]

I dont know, it just tends to feel like I do more damage with other boons

Lady Artemis' boon is pretty good too, though

[severe jungle]

Speedrunners use Artemis or Zeus attack on FJ Achilles

[zinc lintel]

Artemis attack is also good for building into cast damage with Hunting Blades or even Crystal Clarity

[ebon berry]

🔫

[hollow jacinth]

Yeah arti attack is way better

More ways to scale instead of “get rd and splitting”

[primal crown]

Pancake gaming

[severe jungle]

Yessir

[clever lion]

sheesh 53

[gilded laurel]

had another harem run as i like to call them
thought i was pretty fast just to get stomped by my time using excal

[clear oar]

I did it agian! :)

[violet bloom]

best shield

[severe jungle]

Best shield is lvl1 zag shield

Exactly 28 base damage dash strikes

No more no less

[violet bloom]

thats why its so good

[primal girder]

thats 3 more then whats required to kill a numbskull!

[gilded laurel]

this run was so scuffed, but i did it

[severe jungle]

Is this shackle start Hera

[gilded laurel]

no i started with myrmidon bracelet

[severe jungle]

Wow that’s way worse LMAO

[clever lion]

sub 16 :)

these low heat runs go pretty fast

[primal crown]

Nice 2nd hermes

[clever lion]

ill prob wanna delete this game when i reach 32 heat or smth

[clever lion]

?

oh the

yeah unlucky

[primal crown]

Sad 2nd hermes boon lol

[clever lion]

:c

also does impending doom work the way id imagine it to work with merciful?

just a direct dps upgrade

[primal girder]

16 is easy 32 is slightly easy if youve practiced with higher difficulty (like 25 heat or smth) and get the right pact

[primal crown]

Free dps upgrade yeah

[primal girder]

yup

[clever lion]

sheesh

[clever lion]

😩 welp

i shall find out sooner or later

[gilded laurel]

incredibly scuffed victory
bro i swear most god aspects are just bad

[primal girder]

pos slander

[severe jungle]

Poseidon aspect is pretty good below ~50 heat imo

Although those hammers and that build really aren’t doing you any favors

[sudden sierra]

probs wouldve been a new pb if i didnt get pretty bad styx luck

[primal girder]

CHONKY FLOOD

[primal girder]

fair tbh

[hoary spindle]

on wednesdays we (try to) wear pink

[gilded laurel]

my first beowulf run, pretty sure i couldve done WAYY better on the build, but atleast i won

[severe jungle]

Tiny Passion Flare with no weak

[acoustic musk]

[hollow jacinth]

Passion flare here would be tiny phalanx flare with weak

[light basin]

Bzzt

zeus boons op

[primal crown]

R o d

[spare sundial]

we did the thing

[winged iron]

nice

[spare sundial]

having trouble grasping the other weapons lol

crutching on athena deflection

[winged iron]

and god mode?

[bold jolt]

question, what's this

[winged iron]

god mode

[bold jolt]

ah i see

[winged iron]

well you're not using the double dash for one

and also boiling blood is better

[spare sundial]

I told myself i'd turn God mode on until i cleared teh game at least once

its off now

[severe jungle]

No, it would be big phalanx flare with weak

[hollow jacinth]

Doesn’t upgrading rarity of attack boon mess up cast size

[severe jungle]

Kinda depends

Crop is weird

I had a crop hit my cast, make it small when it upgraded to rare, then make it big again for epic and it stayed big for heroic

Also isn’t tiny passion flare the same size as phalanx flare?

[zinc lintel]

Yea phalanx is base cast size

So because of that Phalanx doesn’t have to worry about tiny flare glitch

[hollow jacinth]

Yeah I was gonna edit it but wasn’t sure

[sudden sierra]

getting real close to sub 10

[severe jungle]

Nice!

God’s Legacy on the mirror is standard for Beo speedruns since you care a lot about getting Mirage shot

[sudden sierra]

ooh ok

yeah this run i didnt get mirage shot

but

still pretty good

[severe jungle]

Definitely

You got this

[sudden sierra]

ty

!

[hollow jacinth]

You got epic RD tho which is kinda mirage shot

[severe jungle]

Not with that epic chaos it’s not

[balmy coyote]

3 sack

might had been my first sub 7

[severe jungle]

Woah gaming

Very nice

[hollow jacinth]

Lean build

Maybe don’t use dark regeneration

[severe jungle]

Yeah DR isn’t good

[balmy coyote]

Forgot to turn it off lol

Btw, reason I lost my death defiances is cuz of chaos

Losing Hp when you cast doesnt match well with asphodel

[clear oar]

WOO!

[sudden sierra]

SUB 9!

[nova cedar]

Good job

[severe jungle]

Yoo

Very nice

[nova cedar]

what is the quickest time possible for a hades beatdown

[winged iron]

probably trippy flare beowulf

[nova cedar]

ok

like in minutes though?

[violet bloom]

Minutes lmao

Wr is 20-25 seconds

[nova cedar]

how

[violet bloom]

Cheats

[nova cedar]

oh

[violet bloom]

Actually tho wr is 20 seconds

[nova cedar]

jeez

what about with cheats

[severe jungle]

What cheats lmao

[nova cedar]

and how do you use these cheats?

[violet bloom]

Joking about the cheats

[severe jungle]

Obviously a joke

[nova cedar]

obviously

[severe jungle]

Anyway watch Vorime’s routed wr if you want to see some crazy fast stuff (fast in multiple ways lmao)

[nova cedar]

alr

[barren vessel]

i think the fastest unseeded dad fight ive heard abt is a beowulf 24 second fight?

bigp might have a 23s somewhere

[nova cedar]

oh, well that seems fats

fast

[barren vessel]

oh yeah he has a 23.30 second fight

beowulf can get enough power to straight up instaphase dad on a great run

[nova cedar]

jeez, my fastest runs are sub 22

[spare sundial]

second clear... hera bow

Was incredibly enjoyable

First DD happened at Heroes due to catching Minos swing and a Theseus spin at the same time for like 50+ damage lol

[severe jungle]

*Asterius

Anyway nice!

Ggs

[spare sundial]

now i'm going through getting more titan blood for Malphon

[light basin]

pretty bad build, no idea how i survived

[coral scroll]

38 minutes

[rain ruin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779451865399368/967019555144728596/Hades_gdWbMcQXOX.png

[charred finch]

Grand stuff @rain ruin ! :D

[nova cedar]

Good job

[light basin]

Yeah, lacked damage boons of any sort, had to grind the minion's hp down little by little

What a luck I didn't bring the tight deadline pact

[spare sundial]

Athena literally makes any run cake lol

I try to do other things... but then i'm like "nah i'm gonna athena atk/dash and .. no death run

it could have been a sub-20 minute run for me but i went back through tunnels for more money

[gilded laurel]

my first try at a "boostless" run ignore aphrodite being annoying and stupid and never leaving me alone

[rain ruin]

You can just sell stuff lol

[gilded laurel]

it just didnt want to sell my aphrodite boons

[severe jungle]

Boonless Gilga

Some weapons are much better than others boonless

Gilga is one of those weapons that does no damage

[rain ruin]

[severe jungle]

And Hestia is, as you can see, one of those weapons that is fine boonless

[coral scroll]

45 heats and no boon

[severe jungle]

Hestia is busted

[zinc lintel]

Who would have thought that 300 damage a shot is kinda good

[violet bloom]

smh mike doesnt know he can get boons from gods

[rain ruin]

Still learning

new here

[ebon berry]

Skill solution

[spare sundial]

Okay that was probably the most fun yet

No seeker rifts but

was still incredibly entertaining to see 5k numbers on boss hp bars

[vivid sedge]

got my first win with guan yu lmao. its lvl 1 bc i was just testing it out, did not expect to win

[winged iron]

level 1 guan yu? congratulations

[idle lion]

I don't understand this sentiment. I did boonless, mirrorless 32 heat with Gilga that I'm going to upload when I get home. Playstyles, preferences and hammers definitely make a difference and Gilga's not among the very strongest, but I don't think it particularly struggled for damage. Maybe I'm just weird.

[severe jungle]

Yeah? What was your time

Gilga struggles for damage with boons. And that’s with ME or tidal dash to take advantage of the extra dashes

[zinc lintel]

Alright Pancake lets not gatekeep people's playstyles

Anything can work at 32 heat

[severe jungle]

I’m not gatekeeping

I’m just saying that the damage is low

That’s a fact

[zinc lintel]

Gilga may preform worse at uber high heats like 50+ or have a difficult time getting super fast times but that's irrelevant to the conversation

[severe jungle]

Boonless Gilga does extremely low damage

[zinc lintel]

Right but you understand how you saying that doesn't actually benefit anyone right

[severe jungle]

I didn’t say they can’t use it

They just said the damage was fine

Which it factually is not

[zinc lintel]

"Fine" is a subjective word

It met their standards

that's all

[severe jungle]

I almost guarantee I could complete two boonless Hestia runs in the time it would take me to complete one boonless gilga run

IGT

[solar wind]

we could discuss that.. but not here maybe

[severe jungle]

That’s extremely huge

[zinc lintel]

I think you're missing the point of this message

Look man obviously what I'm saying isn't sticking

[severe jungle]

They said they don’t understand the sentiment

[zinc lintel]

But all I want you to know is that sometimes you don't have to say what you're thinking

[severe jungle]

They didn’t say “I enjoy Gilga, it’s fun for me”, they said they don’t understand why I say the damage for boonless Gilga is low

So then I explain and you tell me that it doesn’t benefit anyone?

[bronze obsidian]

I use the spear a lot, in your opinion what is the best aspect of it?

[severe jungle]

#h1-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat

[bronze obsidian]

wow ok

[idle lion]

I don't know what my time was until I can get home and see it. I don't use tight deadline though and I believe the boonless mirrorless 32 heat was a five sack (if not then 4 sack).

I can see that Gilga doesn't stack up to Hestia, but they're not the only two aspects in the game. I said that it's not among the very best, so when you said no damage I thought in comparison to all aspects.

[severe jungle]

I do.

#h1-discussion message

[winged iron]

this was the most blessed run

i also got 22-0 against than

[primal crown]

holy hermes

[violet bloom]

Extremely blessed

[slender egret]

Is this good any1?

my first time also

[severe jungle]

That would be a great Achilles spear build

Except if you replaced massive spin with flurry jab

[slender egret]

I know

did the minus 1 hammer +2 random hammer thing

[winged iron]

20 minutes on a first clear is pretty good

[severe jungle]

True

[winged iron]

why do you have ruthless reflex

and not deep pockets

and no dark foresight

[slender egret]

I only have like 20 ish runs

[winged iron]

wait no you haven't unlocked dark foresight yet

[slender egret]

yeah

[severe jungle]

What yes they have

They’re just using OF

[slender egret]

oh that

I dont see the use in it personally

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-shrug-love-lucy-okay-idk-gif-16447471

[bold jolt]

rerolls are extremely valuable in runs lol

if you need a particular boon from a god and they dont offer it, rerolling for a second chance is huge

[severe jungle]

There a different mirror talent

[spare sundial]

Felt like i didn't have enough damage for hades. Took me a full 3 minutes to kill him lol

basically had to keep him at arms length and let the seeking arrows do most of the work

seeking arrows are really good for dealing with the skulls and adds too which is fun

[spare sundial]

Quite enjoyable doing Demeter Attack with weaken cast + damage/backstab on weaken

Had the crit thrust as well, pretty constant 500+s from the atk rotation

probably the easiest Hades fight I've had yet, with the exception of Achilles/Ares cast

[zinc lintel]

Switching your attack and special boons might have helped

[spare sundial]

I didnt' get a decent rarity on the ares atk so i didnt' take it

or maybe that was the run i didn't see the ares atk anyways

[rain ruin]

I have no clue how I did 50 heat with this

[spare sundial]

Looks like it was a ton of damage

[severe jungle]

DEdge

[zinc lintel]

DC1 over JS2 Hellmode?

I mean whatever works but it’s weird to see people willingly put DC on sword

I guess dedge helps but still

[rain ruin]

Yea I think DC1 Dedge is fine also it's not like this pact is the best or whatever, just memeing as usual

[lavish ibex]

Friend challenged me to do Talos with the same pact and mirror he did for 32 heat (kind of cursed imo)

[rain ruin]

gamer

[spare sundial]

Nice. finally got through him with the full zeus lightning build lol

That's a fun setup

Didnt' get offered too many poms for the special unfortunately

sea storm is hella fun though with shield

40+ extra damage per atk

[violet bloom]

lvl 4 attack lvl 1 jolt

[spare sundial]

i took quite a few poms and just didn't get offered much

I didn't get jolt until sewers either way

[zinc lintel]

Common jolted moment

[severe jungle]

DC2 AP1 53 Beo

Didn’t you specifically tell me not to do this pact

[rain ruin]

Bold of you to assume I dont meme at high heat

[severe jungle]

Yeah true

[rain ruin]

I did this pact with icy flare

[severe jungle]

That actually makes sense tbf

You already have Dem in your pool so it’s much easier to get early snow burst

[clever lion]

is passion flare and snow burst better/more consistent then going flood flare and artemis attack and going for mirage shot?

[violet bloom]

hes playing on 53 heat lmao

yes

[clever lion]

oh 💀

53 heat means that u only have 2 boon choices right?

or no rerolls

smth like those 2

[severe jungle]

Depends on the pact

[zinc lintel]

Passion Flare + Snow Burst is more consistent but scales worse than Flood Flare Mirage Shot, but with how strong Beo is you can handle with just Snow Burst and Passion Flare's high base damage

[clever lion]

hm alr

ill try out passion and snow burst

[primal crown]

pog

[violet bloom]

[clever lion]

holy

zeus build

[spare sundial]

yep zeus boon zeus aspect is a ton of fun too

lightning everwhere

[random oriole]

Add Artemis for rod + Support Fire

[spare sundial]

i prefer poseidon

for stormy seas and knockback effect synergies

[primal crown]

Funny Charon fight in tart

[hardy ivy]

just beat em4 for the first time with hestia rail

[primal crown]

Hesita

[sacred fiber]

Artemis bull rush build

[severe jungle]

Charged Shot

[sacred fiber]

Almost hit 2000 damage

If it crit

[sacred fiber]

Artemis quake cutter build

Infinite crits

[sudden sierra]

did an achilles run. Spear is like, my least favorite weapon so its nice seeing these kinds of results

[vivid sedge]

i can get sub 20 minute runs with rama now so thats a free 3 heat i can add on (granted, i got really nice hammers but i think i could do it again)

[severe jungle]

When the blades are hunting

[severe jungle]

Yo great build (beside the random beam lol)

[sudden sierra]

this run had a rough start but it was quite nice later on also had to buy a few dds and also had to get the kiss of styx premium from patty

[sacred fiber]

DOOM build

[tame gulch]

Four double

But most of them are useless

Aphrodite with Poseidon, Dionysus with Athena, Poseidon with Aphrodite, Aphrodite with Athena

[spare sundial]

Man... this build really does feel like the safest build ever

[violet bloom]

purpy boons

[ebon berry]

when did you get fists 50 wtf

[rain ruin]

Ages ago

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/903215893998346251/934096866084286474/unknown.png

[violet bloom]

is that hunter dash

[rain ruin]

Indeed

It was in the styx tunnel because Athena didnt want to show up anymore

And it gives me Explosive Upper damage so whatever

[violet bloom]

thats true

explosive upper damage main part of ME build

[rain ruin]

of course

this wasnt meant to be ME initially but ye

[violet bloom]

[sweet radish]

did a race with my friend. somehow i died to tisiphone, but i still managed to come back and steal the victory

[violet bloom]

yo is that tempest strike eris

[rain ruin]

Nice build, if only that Hermes did his thing

[topaz kiln]

yeppers

[violet bloom]

Gross

[rain ruin]

Sword PB

[violet bloom]

pogger

[hollow jacinth]

Sheesh

[rain ruin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841266682072530956/931680030856200232/860890017613873193.webp

[primal girder]

sword gaming

[zinc lintel]

angel waiting room?

[violet bloom]

lmao

[hollow jacinth]

Probably some dumb low heat run

[violet bloom]

angel back to any heat

[ebon berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771815559410876446/967849498539860038/718.png

24/24 🗿

[violet bloom]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/659820450297282585/967817816696844389/1.gif

[primal girder]

oh hell yeah

[ebon berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/955327450680791041.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[rain ruin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/901889174884466698.gif?size=44

[violet bloom]

oh damn skull earring gaming

[ebon berry]

I didnt take a single hit from dad directly

[primal girder]

[violet bloom]

whats with the dark foresight nicknames

[ebon berry]

just 30 damage from the sneaks and a shockwave

[zinc lintel]

yea what's the context here lmao

[zinc lintel]

You're so cracked it's actually insane

[hollow jacinth]

Pancake

[zinc lintel]

Ah

[ebon berry]

pancake started it I thought it'd be funny

[zinc lintel]

Lmao that makes sense

[violet bloom]

nice

[zinc lintel]

🤝

[primal girder]

and then i thought it would also be funny

[spare sundial]

came home, ended up keeping the Athena cast

[primal girder]

POS SWORD GAMING

[violet bloom]

lvl 1 pos sword

[spare sundial]

REJECT ZEUS EMBRACE POSEIDON

[ebon berry]

my heart

Im gonna die tonight

[spare sundial]

look how many total clears i have lmao

i went in on achilles spear

i blew all my blood on zag shield because i was a newb and didn't know lol

[violet bloom]

no dont die thats not very gamer of you

[primal girder]

yeah bro

[ebon berry]

I'II die after uploading

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/955327450680791041.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[violet bloom]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/659820450297282585/967597486967521321/1.gif

[primal girder]

dying is a skill issue

[zinc lintel]

At least let us see the vod before dying

[spare sundial]

Honestly Pos sword is pretty fun

It's not quite the same for me as Achilles spear though, which just feels... better

[primal girder]

fair

i did not mean to say fake i swear

[twin karma]

24/24 aspeccct wrs

what a gamer

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/787779451865399368/951350511905431602/wmicclapping.gif

[light basin]

butt clenching game

[violet bloom]

yo is that arti attack drunken flourish zag rail

[severe jungle]

[lunar peak]

imagine squabbling over using dark foresight or not when you can just uhhh hack the game yes and have both it and olympian favor

[severe jungle]

I don’t think it’s a squabble

[restive nest]

Okay then. Once again, this nonsense worked.

[spare sundial]

Doom cast builds are my bread and butter

Ares cast is by far my favorite

[prisma saddle]

TIL Premium Vintage doesn't violate Olympian Free thingy (got the dialogue too!)

(don't look at the health bar)

[zinc lintel]

big

[warm notch]

boonless moment

[severe jungle]

Holy HP

That’s crazy

[twin karma]

nice health

[sacred fiber]

569 hp

[severe jungle]

nice

[nova cedar]

my holy god, im gonna try as well

[bold jolt]

second time clearing 32 heat

[nova cedar]

good job

[severe jungle]

Do you want me to suggest the best weapon(s) for it

[nova cedar]

yes please

[severe jungle]

Hestia is definitely the strongest option

Rama is also good

[nova cedar]

ok

[severe jungle]

GL

[nova cedar]

i like rama better than hestia

[nova cedar]

thank you

[severe jungle]

Beautiful, lean build. Very nice, ggs

[restive nest]

By a razor's edge here...

[severe jungle]

Paid for the whole health bar

[restive nest]

And I think three DDs vs Hades.

[primal crown]

You still had 10 hp that could be used

[restive nest]

Dosen't matter, had sex got out.

And with that, its time to make like Hypnos and sleep!

[foggy coral]

ayy

first time with stygian blade

got lucky and got probably the best upgrade i think i've seen

'heal 2 every time you attack but 60% less health'

that's the first time i haven't used a single death defiance

now THAT is an upgrade

[primal girder]

not even close baby

[primal girder]

heroic hyper?? delicious

personally i dont see cursed slash to be that good ngl

but also R O D

[severe jungle]

HS rarity really doesn’t matter tbh

[orchid rock]

pic goes hard feel free to screenshot

[primal girder]

do you want some advice

[graceful mirage]

tiny vermin, ruiner of extremely good runs 😭

died to hades in two big swings, first attempt at dash-strike nemesis speed run, very obviously failed

[hollow jacinth]

If you’re losing too many death defiances it might be a good idea to knock down to FO1 or switch on thick skin

Also, my PB has tiny vermin so he’s not a run killer

[rain ruin]

That rd is sad

Can also try Merciful End, very safe build for sword

[spare sundial]

that little rat hurts a lot lol

[graceful mirage]

yupp, first time doing maxed FO cus im tryna force myself into getting used to speedruns, but will definitely use thick skin in the next attempt 😭

[graceful mirage]

used to have epic hyper sprint but i had to sell it to buy 1 more death defiance, and then i lost it 😭

[graceful mirage]

also yup! merciful end is a go to for both zeus shield and nemesis sword, but i wanted to get out of my comfort zone to try faster and more aggressive runs

[hollow jacinth]

Merciful end is probably faster for unmodded

Crit builds really want double edge

[worthy thistle]

If you have heightened security on hades' pot things do 100+ damage, it's so stupid

[worthy thistle]

Mentioning that because this reminded me of that

[spare sundial]

We're not gonna talk about my health.

I have a real bad habit of dashing into things.

I lost 2 back to back DD's in a duo boon against Artemis lol because bad

[violet bloom]

LMAO nice

[sudden sierra]

pog

[hollow jacinth]

Fast

[sudden sierra]

Beowulf is just a good weapon

[hollow jacinth]

It is indeed

Even without charged shot

[foggy coral]

insane streaks

6 wins, 3 win streak

zamn

trying out all of the other weapons

i still think i like shield best though

[primal crown]

Nice anvil

[primal girder]

SUPERSOAKER GAMING

[orchid rock]

are you asking me?

[rain ruin]

Probably

[orchid rock]

bruh

[hollow jacinth]

Swap your attack and special boon

[primal girder]

i am

yeah

most of the time people use doom atk, athena special and dash

then shoot for a duo called merciful end

[bold jolt]

and fated persuasion on the mirror

might be a few others that would work better but i don't know the names off of the looks lol

[foggy coral]

hey no death defiances used

4 win streak zamn

what do those little symbols mean on the midleft

on hunter dash/ares aid

[primal crown]

Best shield
Also it means they are pinned (as in show up in the 5 boons screen

You can select/deselect what you wanna show

[foggy coral]

ohhh

[orchid rock]

ok thanks

[orchid rock]

but i was just showing of the 434 health

[orchid rock]

also the Charon card

[foggy coral]

ok i got CARRIED

dude that was overpowered

ridiculous

instant explosion

5 of them

[severe jungle]

Clockets!

400 base damage

With the lvl4 epic Arty special too? Yeah that’s damage

[violet bloom]

Arti attack to top it all off

[jade forge]

First run with the Aspect of Guan Yu and managed to pull a W out of it.

[restive nest]

I swear the only way I win is through something silly:

[primal crown]

R o d

[restive nest]

My choices weren't great and couldn't roll the dice again.

[restive nest]

And this was...not my best work. I don't think I've got the hang of the whole shock combo thing.

[clever lion]

this happened

and then i died when hades was on legit one hp

💀 oh nah

where the hell was my duo boon

[bold jolt]

it do be like that

[warm notch]

can help to stick something random in the cast slot. core is prioritized over duo so you had 2 rolls instead of 3

[rain ruin]

You really like that Tempest strike don’t you

[topaz kiln]

yes

i'd like to try out something else tho

whats a good build for guan yu

[grave vector]

you could ask in #h1-builds-and-combat

[graceful mirage]

yay :))) couldve been better if the doom attack was maybe epic but ill take it

[foggy coral]

end credits????

[foggy coral]

38 runs to get to end credits

ended up getting a 7 win streak by the end of it

[winged fiber]

Two duos moment

[sudden sierra]

pog, 32 heat sword

[severe jungle]

GGs!

[sudden sierra]

now onto bow

[severe jungle]

Bow

[ebon berry]

Epic attack speed arthur poggie

[rain ruin]

Everything except rooms, as always

[winged iron]

level 10 flood flare wow

[primal girder]

RED DOOM

[hollow jacinth]

first completed run in a WHILE

[topaz kiln]

ruined my streak by trying out extreme measures 4

[crisp sigil]

I see why people like Poseidon dash now, this was a really fun run.

[severe jungle]

Hazard Eris

[winged fiber]

rama special focused run

and also not the fastest but totally my best run

guan yu first level 💀

[crisp sigil]

Tbh the damage you take isn't that bad, but yeah not my smartest move

[severe jungle]

You just tank it every time?

For Eris you want to special at least every 4 seconds to keep the buff active at all times

You can i-frame the blast but that’s a lot of work

And requires you to stop attacking

[crisp sigil]

depended on the room I was clearing the bomb does huge damage while the dash was able to clear smaller enemies, while fighting bosses yeah I just tanked it. Not the cleanest option but it worked and the other hammer options were underwhelming

[restive nest]

Ice shards on everyone! Yeesh this was silly.

[devout herald]

finally got my first clear

[primal crown]

Blessed hammers

[bold jolt]

face tanking hades is always fun lmao

just ignore the extra death defiances from athena, i massively screwed up the lernie fight

[cunning harbor]

utterly enjoyable spear deflect build :

[swift chasm]

Classic combo

[hollow jacinth]

Sick build

[winged iron]

i'm sorry but smiertelny wynach is the funniest thing i've seen this week

how is polish a real language

[lunar peak]

They have great artists

Daria Zawialow 😳 😩

[swift chasm]

It's like for Polish people Czechia language is funny :D

Btw for me zamach would fit better than wymach, but whatever

[sand vale]

got members card in tarterus

[severe jungle]

Zeus ²

[sand vale]

and a little bit of zeus

[severe jungle]

Why so many double strike poms? Do you know about how cooldown works with double strike on Zeus special?

[sand vale]

no most of them where nectar

[severe jungle]

Nectar is such a noob

[sand vale]

yeah

[coral scroll]

I was trying to beat my time record, but i missed it

[violet bloom]

Nice

Next time use family favorite instead of privileged status on the mirror because it's more consistent

Seems like you didn't proc ps in this run

[coral scroll]

Yeah, i keep forgetting about it completely

[coral scroll]

What ive learnt though, is to not take duo boons before mirage shot

[ebon berry]

im so unlucky tbh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771815559410876446/968981584671805440/3173.png

[severe jungle]

No, don’t open any duo boons before you get mirage shot. If you do end up opening any, then you should definitely take them if they’re offered. If Poseidon has two duos open and only one is Mirage Shot, your odds of getting Mirage from Poseidon will be halved

[red hollow]

first sub 10 run yay

[violet bloom]

Nice hermes

Olympian favor gang 💪

[zinc lintel]

Look at all those blue boons

Olympian favor putting in work

[red hollow]

I rerolled 3 times to get the dash speed thingy and no luck

[zinc lintel]

It happens

[severe jungle]

Do you want any advice for future speedruns / runs?

[red hollow]

maaaybe?

to be fair I have done everything in this game besides the achievement where I have to max out all the keepsakes

that is all really

[severe jungle]

Well I have advice but I’m trying not to give unsolicited advice because that can be interpreted as rude

[red hollow]

I see, well I already played this game enough to only try to make a run as quick as possible so why not getting some advice on it I guess ... ?

[severe jungle]

My advice is in all caps in my nickname (which maybe counters what I just said about trying not to give unsolicited advice 🗿 but whatever)

Use Dark Foresight

[red hollow]

why so

[hollow jacinth]

It’s better

[severe jungle]

I’ll explain in #h1-discussion

[hollow jacinth]

More boons > rarer boons

[severe jungle]

More boons = rarer boons

[primal girder]

_ _

[warm notch]

idk why I take greatest reflex when I never remember I have the dashes. also I remembered that I hate HS styx

[cunning harbor]

i find dash strike a bit weird on the bow as a mechanic. given that you also need to aim. seems weird to me to exist. 😮

[rain ruin]

gud

[ebon berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/955327450680791041.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[warm notch]

wdym? the auto aim on bow is pretty generous unless you play on kbm

[severe jungle]

Optimal 32 heat pact

[violet bloom]

true

beowulf next

[coral scroll]

It could be 16-17 minutes if i didnt go for extra chambers in styx, trying to get mirage shot

It seems like i either get charged shot or mirage shot

I rarely get both of them

I thought i picked family favorite!

[violet bloom]

next time use gods legacy for better mirage odds

and yeah family favorite

[coral scroll]

I really was sure that i picked it

I got really good boons, though!

[rain ruin]

same thing with pstatus

but ggs

[timid grove]

My fastest time yet

[violet bloom]

COD

[coral scroll]

[ebon berry]

juicy 1% artemis attack pom

[violet bloom]

LMAO

[severe jungle]

Is it actually 1%

No it should be 2% right?

[violet bloom]

No probably 3%

[timid grove]

level 7 was 2% if I remember correctly

[severe jungle]

Yeah

[sudden sierra]

woo! 32 heat bow!

time for either fists or spear

tbh

im not looking too forward to spear since im bad with it

[primal girder]

RAMA GAMING

[primal crown]

Rama

[ember bay]

Funny no hit on hades which is probs easy also funny if this glitches and the res is bad

rip

it is bugged

let me fix rq

[primal girder]

something something potato quality

[ember bay]

actually gonna cry

there

fix

was just grinding thorn of than ach

[vivid sedge]

wtaf was this

didnt get to use eris but that build did 3k crits lmfao

[vivid sedge]

i really love playing eris

the hammers on rail are just so fun

[primal crown]

Blessed Chaos

[vivid sedge]

only thing i would have liked better is rocket bomb instead of ricochet

and also if i got double strike instead of high voltage

[primal crown]

Funny

Got fully loaded on styx lol, gamble paid off

[primal girder]

MMMMM NUMBERS

[twin karma]

hey

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697204655339601933/963630229966958612/F45F96D7-3D49-4E2C-BF13-674ED7D91914.jpg

[primal girder]

there it is

[sacred fiber]

Hazard bomb crit build

3000+ on crit with heart rend