#h1-victory-boasting
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nice job. I still don't have all the achievements. I should maybe focus on doing them for a bit instead of trying to get better at heat runs
Yippee! Do I get an easter egg (pun intended) for beating Hades with Chaos's keepsake?
call/jolted where 
wow, that's a lot of clears, how many hours?
Just a mere 300+ 
Sounds about right
Em4 is very impressive
thanks. I been thinking about trying 50 now. to prepare i am leveling up the sisyphus shackle. was thinking i could use AP so I don't have to rely on an attack w/ the hestia. The starting 100% might be good enough alone
I’ve only beaten hades one with shield and malphon mostly malphon max bounty on malphon
nice i was just doing a malphon run
i got ME really late into the run
no impending doom but it still worked
taking my time with the climb
my bossing needs a lot of work, i keep trying to charge atks when i should be dodging
but im getting the hang of it
i should be done with 45 and 50 within a week IF i get time to paly
wow u did up to 62 heat? that's insane
took a thousand or so hours 
yeah i think i got about 150 hours or so now. I can't tell how much of that is AFK time tho
cause if i am gonna do something else I often minimize the game and do it, rather than quit
since this is a roguelike, why do you need afk time?
I mean, when do you even need to wait?
i don't need to wait for stuff in game, i just leave it up and running sometimes if i gotta do something IRL then come back later
ah gotchu
Felt I had a pretty strong setup going here. Decently fast hades kill. Wish I'd gotten splitting bolt sooner (still no companions yet but working on it)
No poms on jolted, that’s pretty rough 🥀
Yeah I'm still learning what's actually good lol
Also I got that decently late
I think
Avoid swift strike from hermes for rail
You’re better off aiming for hyper sprint -> rush delivery for more damage or greatest reflexes for more dashes strikes to get more dash damage off but swift strike isn’t even like a true 10% strike dps increase because you end up with a slight mismatch in lightning
Yeah I know about hyper sprint rush delivery just didn't hit it
And in this case with delta-chamber, the swift strike would do effectively nothing because it’d only speed up the 0.035s cooldown between shots in the same burst
I know it's low heat, I'm doing the prophecy for clearing with every pact choice so just put on random junk, but I don't get how this fight is considered harder than EM when I can just stack them both on top of each other
I mean I get maybe it would be harder at high heat with them moving faster and having to avoid damage due to Lasting Consequences but still
Little things like Astereus not having AOE on his leaps and theseus not constantly running away
And if I see a spear through coming I either just accept the damage or go run behind a pillar
on higher heat, you CAN'T just accept the damage
and you did point out the problem, with forced overtime 2, they hit both fast and hard
but I do agree that I don't understand why people say that this fight is harder than the extreme measures one
At high heat I highkey just accept the damage
I guess I just suck too much to just tank it then lmao
Mostly cuz it's em3 and he's on his own when throwing spear
And ideally you still have an entire defiance left so u just facetank
isn't the optimal strategy at high heat to have stubborn defiance?
Yes
Yeah I’ve done high fear H2 so I know the song and dance just it’s mechanically so much easier in my mind than EM
I guess I can understand that
Since like even though you’re fighting Astereus solo he can also just… turn into a damn beyblade and refuse to let you hit him for a while
Em3 is easier cuz theseus just roams around doing nothing so u can take them one by one
It’s entirely fair if a harder 1v1 is better than an easier 1v2
Can’t say I’ve fought either enough times to say conclusively
I guess “easier” and “faster” are two different things
Cause like normal is absolutely faster cause you can just bully them stacked on eachother but it does make it more risky
play EM3 more, Theseus is literally just joyriding while you have a duel with Asterius in the center of the arena
Who pinged
EM3 is worse than not
The only people who think this are way too skill issued against Theseus
Because Asterius is evil
Achilles Hunting blade, just discovered it today lol
Yeah example a few messages up
Even by himself I honestly find EM Astereus harder cause you have to actually respect him
Normal Astereus can’t even hit you if you just step behind him
Wasn’t referring to them cause I’ve seen their clears. I trust their opinions
I’ve also seen the clears of the other person above them who is saying EM3 is easier and I can’t say I trust that opinion as much
I mean at same heat levels and damage levels and hp levels i definitely could not deal with both theseus and asteroid at once
Aterious
Aterious
Dammit
Astereus
Thanks
Yeah that’s understandable I’ve yet to fight them at the same time on overtime but I beat EM3 on overtime pretty easily every time I tried to jump straight to 24 heat
I kept losing to overtime 2 hades cause I’m still adjusting to H1 dodging
But EM3 was definitely not HARD even with FO2
I don’t plan to push myself far on this game, I’m playing it on downtime following some H2 burnout
But I at least want to get the 32 and a EM4 clear
Maybe I haven't played regular heros enough to speak on it
Rivals Prometheus makes EM Champs feel tame
Champs? Heroes? Idk some people call rivals Prometheus “Heroes”
Prometheus made me ragequit
I often call them Promacles
Valid. It’s not considered V1.0 info so usually main channel friendly on H2 chats
Either way yeah I speedrun surface a fair deal so Prom is weak sauce
Rivals kicks my ass though sometimes
I dint even know what rivals is
Heroes
Okay so people call both region 3 bosses Heroes lol
H2 version of EM
Ohkay
||Heracles joins him so people call it “heroes”||
Or ||Promacles||
It’s like EM3 but ||they both chase you around||
Sorrryyy I should have made clear what was being spoiled lol
I kinda forget how little even top level H1 players know about H2
Since I’ve only stepped out of the H2 bubble recently
Yea I ragequit in earlyacces
From difficulty or BS?
I’m willing to wager it’s BS
I will say that even some of the easiest rivals bosses put all the H1 bosses to shame except EM Hades
EM hades would rank among the hardest bosses of H2
I think it's heroes for H1, champions for H2
I’ve never heard anybody call H2 champions
Heroes or ||Promacles|| is what I see all the time
eh, just say rivals prom, people will get it
but H1's 3rd boss is always called heroes because Theseus + Asterius is a mouthful lmao
btw, did you unlock their upgraded version yet? they get a new attack a couple dozen runs in, there's a sub-plot, it will be used in both regular and EM fights
well, they're famous heroes as well, and heroes is shorter to type, so it stuck
👆 erm guys move to #h1-discussion
I just wish Theseus would have developped a bit throughout the story
i think my 11th total run and my first time facing boss(es) 3 and somehow i beat it on my first attempt 😅. first time ever playing a game like this but i think i got lucky with my build bc it lowk feels braindead sometimes
Grats! Be sure to use the Olympian's keepsakes in the first two areas in order to direct your build properly!
No brain build
Chamber 4 satyr sack and still no companions yet but 🤷♂️
I think I finally got some poms on jolted
@heavy solar
DANG nice
32 heat zag rails
I love dash strikes
Think I need to start putting on heat. Getting the feel for the game
32 directly
Dump it all into special
finally beat 32 heat! I am done 🫠
Cast Run with Chiron
Practice run before Extreme Measures 4, did a pretty decent job, fastest malphon run I did
Fist go wild
been forever since I got 2 legendaries in 1 run
I think i finished the game, now to complete the rest.
Dash Strike ftw
“Hades is a game about putting all your eggs in one basket and throwing it at the next boss”
Good old times
Amazing
stress af sia especially in EM3 boss and final boss fight 😵💫
using bow is the least difficult to use and win 32 heat
32 heat rainbow run. Hitting the boon rewards at the first shop was the toughest part. HS is on just to reset faster
Still trying for the fresh file as well. It’s a lot harder than I thought it would be
what's a rainbow run?
1 boon from each gods?
damn, ggs
thanks
We had a challenge run in the H2 speedcord to get an end screen text for “family gatherer” which required you win a run with 9 different Olympian gods. But it did include special encounters since some Olympian gods were changed over to that and could give boons that way
Not for H1
In H2 there’s ||13 Olympian gods you can get boons from and 4 are special encounters, 3 of which can be found on the surface and one via a keepsake at the beginning of the run||. So makes collecting 9 a lot easier
Yeah there’s only really 1 way to force all 9 to happen in H1
Oh sup shackle
Also how?
You have to enter a tart midshop with 3 gods, pick up a 4th and exit into a 5th god then you can force the other 3 for asphodel/ely/styx
and grab hermes
Oof that’s rough
You can enter styx with 3 gods and hermes but you aren’t guaranteed to hit your other 5 in styx
Yeah it’s far easier in H2 because the special encounters count so all you need is ||the keepsake that gives you a starting boon, your normal 4 god pool, a single special encounter, then just take 3 more god keepsakes||
But it is also doable using the same method you just explained
Was for H2 bingo and I’d done it within the first hour of the bingo starting
yea seeker be like that

Guh-dong
Sword good
OK now that's some BS there
Bro just decided to not land
Timed my dash away and all
u should post elsewhere then copy yhe media link
I guess yeah if I wanted it to show in the main chat
Yup no clue
Regret taking the extra Styx reward since I had plenty of time
But there you go the 12-32 jump is not hard
No companions and an unfinished mirror
Yeah never got it just ended up taking the zeus dash for extra chances to hit jolted
works yea
Probably would have been under 18 minutes if I didn't take the extra styx reward
I'll wait a little for that

btw callisthenics program is the worst heat in the pact, i wouldnt recommend
isnt it in h2 aswell
it is
In the form of grit yes but it's a lot less impactful there overall
Still recommended to put on later but nowhere near as bad as some other options
yea i never understood why it isnt considered as bad there
oh it's Eris, I had done a lot of runs with it, if you hit the rocket + cluster bomb hammers it's the easiest clear in the world
Your god builds melt bosses so grit doesn't matter nearly as much
It can matter on some of the tankier bosses or to try and phase chronos' instakill but otherwise it isn't really that bad
This one shreds (i'm not very good at the game btw)
It is
I thought I was lucky to find 2 in a row
When I found the third it was a nobrainer
Even though I was risking having to fight Theseus with slowness debuff
What's ME?
merciful end
I just cooked Extreme Measures 4 Hades, lost 2 defiances tho but that's alright
EM4 and HS is a crazy combo
Those pots become run killers
Props to you for beating it with that pact, that's much harder than 14 heat would normally imply
Thanks bro
I used to have them both in my PoP until I had to do my first heat 32 run
that was not a fun time
so I started ditching both of these from my build
Ice Wine build
I FINALLY BEAT 32 HEAT ON HADES 1! Ever since I platinumed Hades 1 three years ago, I have felt like I didn't really 100% Hades, I've been trying to beat 32 heat on and off ever since and I have played most of Hades 2 but I felt like I didn't really deserve to play it until finally beating 32 heat, but I finally did it. I know that it is easy as HELL for some people, but I don't care. (bad pun because mentioning feces is bad for whatever reason)
I will legitimately say as somebody that has beaten 62 fear on Hades 2 that 32 heat on H1 does not screw around
I went back last week after 3 years of never touching Hades 1 never even reached the credits or played past 1 fear
And jumped straight to 32 fear after like 5 runs to get a handle of the bosses and forced overtime 3
Hades 1 is no joke and 32 heat is honestly comparable to like 45 fear in H2
I mean you did self-impose restrictions, like not wanting to unlock stuff. not saying that's not valid or I don't respect it, just saying your experience with 32 is not reflective of how free it can be.
Oh I’m aware I did it companionless and not even on a fully upgraded aspect but I’m saying just the wacky stuff that can happen is no joke
Hades 2 lets you get away with mediocre builds and half-assed play because up to 32 fear you don’t even have to take things like extra damage, reduced healing, increased enemy count, increased enemy health, or wards
Just like 2 levels of rivals, frenzy, time 3 (which is far easier on hades 2) and a few other things that barely impact the run
You have to take a lot more bad stuff in H1 to reach 32 heat
My fastest dad fight EVER😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 AND ON 32 HEAT FIRST 32 HEAT YESSSSSSSSSSSS
I was on one death defiance in elysium then patroclus came😭
Lmao that's practically 35 heat

gg
this
32 fear is less difficult than 32 heat
This was funny. I wanted to do a 32 heat run before going to sleep just to try it out after clearing 16 for the first time. Fist had dark thirst so i picked it up with plume just for fun to see how good dodge stacking can get. Ended up being one of the most brain dead run I've ever done where I just spam athena dash with +3 dash and just tank it with dodge + sturdy + weak + 400hp. Ended max EM hades with 1 dd lost. Insanely funny way to get my first 32 heat in 1 go.
holy 36 heat difficulty pact
36?
I think they mean that the individual pacts are so hard that you've practically added 4 extra heat worth of difficulty?
Idk someone said mine was 35 heat even though I just mixed and matched until I found the best one for me
Yeah it’d typically be because your pact is very overkill for your given heat number
cuz u got sub20
which is basically td3
Ohhh that's what you mean
Wait that means I could have taken off all 3 jury summons, or all 3 hard labor or the forced overtime😭😭😭😭
i finished the base game in 14 runs while my friend is still on run 50 and hasnt won yet heh
Ic. Not sure how that works with my pacts but some of the harder stuff I felt works better for me over a lot more debuffs 😅 . The first 4 pacts give really little heat and I dont want to touch healing debuff at all
yeah the healing debuff just looks to be a pain in the ass
Like
You got 10 wins in 14 runs? That’s pretty solid
10 wins?
Oh I thought you meant you finished the main story 
The hp debuff isn’t that bad
I’d actually put 4 levels into it before any into the 2 after it
noooooo my centuar hearts...
Centaur hearts still work
centaur hearts and stubborn defiance
counteract the debuff?
The one that buffs your max hp gains? It does buff your centaur heart gains
yup
so woulddnt it be helpfful to counteract the debuff?
If your build already has aphro anyways yeah
oh yeah boon synchronization...
It’s about on par with like premium vintage from dio as well for the same reason of getting more max hp boosts
your main way of like “healing” ends up being stubborn defiance each room
I mean the only one that remains constant across all weapons is going to be hyper sprint -> rush delivery from hermes
Very unimpressive time PR. Still struggling to adjust from hades 2
Isn't stubborn defiance for higher heat
No poms on jolted 
I think I picked it up pretty late but idk for sure. I don’t know the hades 1 meta very well yet either so probably just pommed inefficiently lol
Boons usually stay in order as you pick them up for the inventory
There is some level of jank ngl
I think it starts happening more when you buy an absurd amount of well items at once but it can apply to regular inventories
Yeah that run was last night so I honestly don’t remember. I know there was one yesterday that I got jolted as like my last boon but don’t remember if it was that one
Ares Demeter Duo is really good with Ares blade rift boons to become big
Nice. Divine Protection, i have only gotten that once so far
divine protection is OP, tanks 1 hit for free every 20 sec
it's like, imagine if Acorn refreshed itself
how is this balanced
By being a legendary boon with Brilliant Riposte as it’s only prerequisite
Yeah the only way to get it is by being lucky after taking a boon that is honestly not worth taking
So you gotta waste a boon that you probably are just gonna customs away later on if you have to
It’s more a legendary you stumble into than one you take intentionally
Eris 62 moment
That's crazy lmao
I don't know English well, but I wanted to share it with someone. It took me 111 hours to complete this wonderful game. I'll play it again, but I've achieved my main goal. Thank you for this wonderful story.
I never thought I'd take the bow seriously enough to beat the game with it but here we are, and honestly, I liked it! Definitely gonna do more bow runs.
kinda scuffed run, haven't played Hades 1 in a while and the game kept giving me 100 Ares boons when I wanted Zeus
still keeping the streak though
also got this
Not a victory but a fun run, havent played in a while and decided to try a shackle run, went alright but kinda forgot a good bit about this game so I was rusty and made some mid picks, overall fun run tho died to phase 2 w like 20% left so 4-5 hits or so
why stubborn defiance on low heat? would've won without it
i didnt switch it was wtv i didnt really care if i lost i was js tryna mess around
i stopped playing the game after a while so i kinda js forgot
did another 12 heat run, with Achilles, ice wine + thunder rush w/ splitting bolt and greatest reflex, very easy win
and what do you know, it's a sturgeon this time
Wanted to do a H1 run after a lot of time on H2 - RNG did not disappoint (Beowulf with Sudden Rush and Breaching Rush)
That was fun :D
That's a weird H1 win screen!
Merciful End Gaming
Just doing runs to fulfil prophecies and managed to hit the build late into Elysium with routine inspection and approval process active
I just need to do heightened security cause I'm still finishing the pact prophecy then I can move onto clearing with every weapon
I call this the Triple Legendary + Triple Duo + Good Hammers run HOLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I like this lazy soaking wet build haha 💦
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the meg and artemis teamup!
Artemis with the Ares Duo Boon would have been chaotic but still fun run
Freezing Vortex and Hunting Blades are mutally exclusive so you can only have one 
aww dang it I thought I could get both 😭
no impending doom but that was fun
accidentally escaped out of victory screen again rip
i think i hit every single fountain for strong drink too
anw at least das 32 heat zeus
i don't know how i ended up with ME beo but here we are at 32 h eat
thought i might as well just get 32 heat chaos with ME while im at it, that's 32 heat all shields now 🙂
lmao
how to get megs?
max out her relationship
k thx
By the skin of my teeth 😭
god this was a disaster run
is my mirror a disaster guys
Nope only problem is dark regen and olympian favour
Oh and golden touch
couldnt find any others to post it on mb
You can send it elsewhere like to the dms of a bot and then right click and “copy media link” to send it anywhere
ooh tysm
First attempt at Hades, and nuked him xD
if someone told me why Ares is my fav god, this is why
Isnt dark regen good
no, the consistent 3 healing every room is a lot more than darkness, esp since darkness doesn't help you in run
Not really
You get pitiful healing from darkness room rewards, and boss drops are always followed by a fountain that heals you anyways
Cthonic Vitality gives you a ton of healing across your entire run very consistently
got this one yesterday. 32 heat with the bow of Zagreus also got my last fish and finished the codex
Today I got 32 heat with Rama. I now have 32 heat on all bows. just need the fists and rails now
some weird bs going on here but it was a fun run, had like maybe 5 boons by lernie so it was a slow start for it being lower heat
Aphro coming in clutch with Sweet Surrender and ARTEMIS WITH HEART REND
funny
68,8% dodge chance permanently is really cool
i just fkng NUKED hades
idk what i did but i did it 
Lmao second 32 heat was even easier than the first despite me having a technically worse build
tfym "worse build" (poseidon attack
aside), you hit ddash, epic jolted, hypersprint + RD, and a chaos +70maxhp boon
that jolted and the special need more poms though.
The poseidon attack is goated cause of sea storm wtf are you talking about. Also my previous build was Eris rail with cluster rockets. Not sure what other build could be better...
sea storm doesn't require poseidon cores to work, any knockback triggers it (thus making poseidon cast a better choice, if you absolutely are to want to use sea storm). poseidon attack is a problem because it knocks away enemies out-of-range of your attack and away from where your special is expected to be (if your special is not near zagreus you're probably losing out on DPS)
But then sea storm also wouldn't work cause I had pulverising blow which takes away the knock back from my attack
bullrushes and charged shot don't count for pulvblow. that only applies to standing strikes specifically
I only used sea storm because I had the poseidon attack. Also, for some reason I didn't even use charged shot once after getting it😭
Wait let's compare builds I have both screenshots
sir, that clockets has an ares special, and that eris jolted is level 1 common
honestly, remove the poseidon attack (and replace cshot with explosive return) and you've got a meta high heat zeus build
Actually, now that I think about it, I didn't put arti on the special for my first 32 heat.....
And replace it with what??? Then sea storm is useless.
sea storm doesn't require poseidon cores to work, any knockback triggers it
zeus combo is attack (or dashstrike) and hold it -> special -> bullrush -> recall special
I didn't have any viable source of knockback because of pblow
bullrush
Bullrush is slow asf
honestly remove sea storm too while you're at it
No?? It dealt like half the damage out of my entire build
enemies getting kicked out of range every time you attack is even slower asf
They don't get knocked that far and I used the walls to keep them in place and bosses got hit by sea storm even though they don't get knockback....
if this is true that means you're playing zeus shield as a dashstrike spam aspect. which, let's say, isn't exactly safe nor strong compared to alternatives.
It was strong enough to get past 32 heat which is all that matters to me...
play the game however you like ofc, it's a singleplayer game so I have no business deciding how you should play the game, but objectively there are 3 proven zeus build-paths:
- ereturn zeus², and play with the standard zeus combo described above
- ereturn %-based special, play as described in #1 (high heat only)
- cshot %attack, and play it like discount zagshield (cshot spam and nothing else)
Replace it with aphro strike or athena
Aphro gives you higher strike damage, weak and smouldering air for damage (with either zeus or dio call)
Athena just gives defense which is really nice for high heat
sea storm being half your damage would be highly suspect ngl
Could even do artemis strike and then you have some nice secondary boons (pressure points -> hunter’s mark, support fire) and lightning R O D open for dps
Dionysus cast so JUICY
i really tried to learn serrated edge hades spear but i kept dying so im in ME once again, 32 heat hades spear at least
No wonder they're nerfed Aphrodite's boons in hades 2. They were too op.
Maybe it's in the what?
The ultimate dash strike build
got my first 40 heat on the bow! i feel like I have two black eyes and a bloody nose though after all my attempts lol. Ended up not getting any extra DD the whole time so I faced hades with no DD left. had a pretty big life pool but wasn't full health.
32 heat with Talos. parting shot is a fun build around
REAP WHAT YOU SOW!
Ok so insane zeus and poseidon damage + 28% on Butterfly keepsake + Rush Delivery HIGH DAMAGE BUILD HOLY MOLY
Whoops! All death defiances! (I know its not a victory but it feels like it... ignore the fact 3 of them are kiss of styx)
Phalanx Shot build funny
The ultimate snow burst build
It’s weird going back to hades 1.
Has been a while since I played this game. I kept the shawl on the whole time so it was random god choices. I felt like I was playing it like hades 2, with only one dash and timing it to dash thru things. I felt like certain aspects of hades fight was easier based on what I learned on dashing from hades 2
I forgot to use the shield block also
Lost two death defiances to Charon in Tartarus because I didn’t get priv status going yet and forgot his fight a little.
Mid Boons and Hammers and I still pulled through
Stubborn Roots 

Yesterday
Forgot to get victory screen but I did win
Had the bow with double auto-firing ice shot with lower range but higher damage. I always run dodge deflect builds as well. Turned the bow basically into a long range Malphon
Not the best, but I now have made a clear with every weapon! Very proud of myself, especially since I took a couple month break in the middle of this run
My first clear! I usually don't really like these high stakes games tbh but I've been enjoying this. I think the storytelling and bonding system is fun. Now to take a break because my mouse is all sweaty haha
Aspect of Chiron my beloved
if only I had Sweet Surrender and Blown Kiss
modest victory
my first clear without a shield and it's the eris aspect 
been having a hard time switching gears from hades 2 to 1
i forgot to pin it in the screen but my hardest carries were the aphrodite call and athena special
aphrodite would whack a boss for like 5k damage and i'd used it to finish off theseus and hades
athena saved me from most hits i would've otherwise taken
like now i know why they scaled back giving us athena boons in hades 2 
Athena boons plus a couple from Hermes as well as Hermes’ Lambent Plume keepsake is goated.
Finally got my 30% Pierced Butterfly run, one achievement away from platinum!
Gilgamesh slow but funny
its cinema chat
First 32-heat clear on my second try!
Interesting choice going for RI over DC
DC is pretty free on Rama
how the hell did you get that on your 2nd try with that wack ass pact lmfao
with explosive shot rama
this is genuinely one of the most impressive 32 heats i've ever seen
have you considered climbing higher heat bc i think you could honestly do it lmfao
And old run where I somehow got 2 completely different builds in 1 run😭
Super soaker + dio cast
Also
Boonless run + max health run as well somehow
Hitless hades phase 2 + no dds lost in first phase
bad lernie and really bad ely split i think and also slow as balls tart
8 min isnt awful for not playing in forever but with the luck i got its also kinda crazy i didnt do better
i got so many free rooms in aspho so maybe 1:08 isnt that good
only thing im rly missing is hyperdelivery which prob wouldve saved like 10 seconds on dad
or 5 seconds maybe
my first half of p2 dad was really bad
a better player could definitely sub6 this but i dont even know how to approach sub6
😭
even if i save a min in ely and half a min in tart thats still a 6:30
oh also my tart bridge room was REALLY sloppy
followed that up with an even worse elysium LMAO
that first heroes should not have been 18 seconds but theseus stood there for like a good 5 seconds after i took him to p2
😭
im prolly gonna buy this game soon
Arthur good
I thought I could get Ice Wine and Festive Fog together but I guess not, they are exclusive to each other
You can def get them together
You just didn't get the rng bc you opened 2 other duos trying to get both lmao
Where’d you hear that? It just isn’t true
It’s bound to happen when you have like 8 different duos and legendaries open
you just won’t hit what you want
Isn't charged shot bad for speedruns or am I thinking of 64 heat?
ur thinking of heat
Ah okay thanks
You put serrated point in the top 5 but not flurry jab?
Optimal speed hammer
Might have just used the autogenerated options
No I chose the boons that helped alot
Tbh I did use it but because I got so many good boons its hard to pick the ones that carried
Just registered that this means they had the cursed Flurry Jab Serrated Combo 
I couldve picked extending jab over flurry jab but idk
Flurry jab is the best (individual) hammer in the game
idk about that one
It’s very comparable to Twin Shot or Double Edge
It’s just that spear needs it so much more
Yeah that's why I consider it the best hammer
chaos technically has a modded 64 if you consider mysterra's deathless 62 a 64
Time traveller from 2019 here, it’s actually Charged Flight
fire
CLUTCH RAMA WITH 4 HP-
ye
really weird of me to have a 3 god pool instead of 4 but it worked out in my favor
terrible hammers for gun
divine protection is pretty awesome though, i have only had it once so far, and i choose athena a lot
Just hit my first EVER 50 heat!!!! Finally did it. I admit I thought this was not gonna be possible for me a few weeks ago unless I got absolutely insane luck with boons in terms of attack power, athena dash, chaos, damage negation, etc. I thought everything would have to line up in order for me to do it.
But I kept getting closer and closer and more and more consistent to the point where I was making it to hades more and had some time to spare, but I probably choked on 3 or 4 runs where I could have won, just was too shook during the last fight. But tonight I finally did it! I got a bit lucky finding richochet, which really helps on time, and i had enough time to relax during the final fight. Will definitely try some of the other weapons now at higher heats!
and congrats! I think I saw you were working on that a while!
decided to get some other weapons to 40 now, did a fists run to celebrate my 50 heat win. Felt so smooth and was refreshing to do another weapon and not have AP2 on
wrong channel but good job
Whoops my bad ! I misclicked XD
about to earn my last trophy for unlocking the 2nd skelly statue
Done!
had 2 acorn hits left lol
wow nice, i need to try spear maybe
I decided to do Hestia again at 50 heat cause I was like "mmm. Maybe it was a fluke"
but i did it again
sorry you're a good player now and there's no un-doing that 
yeah it took me around 140 attempts to do the first one. I won't lie LOL, i just checked my file room. I kept getting closer and closer though. The second victory i got just now took me 2 tries
got another one, had an amazing combo at beginning with finding common heart break strike and the demeter thing that upgrades boons. Might be the highest damage % boost i've had from a single boon
also barely took any damage here on hades, mostly only did cause I started to rush when the clock was about to run out
Didn't actually take the 2nd hammer on this one, i kept getting offered health vs hammer and i felt i had enough damage already
tried my best to do boonless, but didnt work out
even still, my only boon was a final-room side hustle
and between you and me i dont think it helped
Finally beat the game for the first time yesterday!
with twin fists is really good i just spammed with agies
I was going to try this next haha
Thanks for the suggestion! I think the Chaos boon came in clutch haha.
First time beating it using the bow! Probably the weakest weapon for me if not for the power up after effects.
doesn't archipelago start you off at heat 64?
if so, ggs dude, I barely scrapped by with 32 heat
max heat yeah.
beat it w bow
goddamn, that is some skill right there
if I had to do an archipelago, I would play kingdom hearts 2 final mix, that is by far the one game I'm good enough at to enter an archipelago with
we had a ton of games lol 2 rouges tho, hades nd tboi
What does this even mean?
“Starts you off at max heat” but you’re at 23 here
am I missing smthing
archipelago allows the people youre playing with to lower your heat
with the items they grab in their games
i was playing with reverse heat which means my team can LOWER my heat to make my runs easier.
Sounds like a fun concept but also a bit contrived
Since most ppl aren't able to even scratch at 64 heat feels like you would just be waiting for others to make progress for the heat to drop to a reasonable level
very nice. You still had 3 Death Defiance too!
That was just pure luck. Most times I’m down to one lol
Got two more clears under my belt 🙂
gy athenaspin with a good hammer 😌
gy athenaspin without a good hammer or with no hammer at all 
getting a little back into h1, pulled off 32 with my second weapon, first try
I mean, that's what happens sometimes with archipelago, I've heard of an archipelago where one guy was stuck waiting on an important item so he went and got burger king to pass the time and he was still stuck when he came back
but I agree that hades is not for everyone in an archipelago
it's actually a pretty good game for it, the ones that are the worst for archipelago are the games where you have A LOT of items needed to finish the final boss/beat the game, those often have a lot of items so not only are you often stuck waiting on people, people end up waiting on you
and you can't do anything since you can't progress
Seems like a skill issue
no I mean like getting stuck in Zelda wind waker because you don't have a mandatory item to progress
at least in Hades your progress is gatekept by your skill level, so it's a good game for archipelago
And Hades is still dead weight for needing at least 10 smth heat decreases to even get started
in the archipelago, every items in every games are randomized, so you don't know where they are
Should have grinded out more items then
I mean, you can always customize hades to your skill level and remove some heat at the very begining, no one will judge you for not wanting to start at 64 heat
Then what is the point of the gimmick
good archipelago games are the ones where progression isn't gatekept by mandatory items, but by your own skill level, which is why soulslike are pretty amazing for it
You can just crank out a 50 h run in 30min
what's the point of any challenge?
Do you start from a fresh file
to overcome it
If so then you can just crank out a ff run
What are you overcoming if you set the difficulty at smth you know you can beat lol
And even more so what is the point of setting it at a level at 64 you know you have no chance at beatinh
Makes no sense all around
?
that's why most people start off at heat 64, because they can't beat that and as other people find heat items in their games, it lowers your game difficulty until you can beat the game and release your checks
Yes so dead weight
you can still find checks for other people as you play the game
like, if I had to play hades for an archipelago, I'd start off at heat 58 so I don't have tight deadline and work down from there, which would be challenging for me since I barely managed heat 32
- wdym beat the game to realise checks
Do other players only get boosts from you when you beat the game
every item you can buy at the shop and every times you beat a boss for the first time, every gods keepsakes etc...
You can farm those so easily bruh
when you beat your game all items you haven't found yet are given to the other players at once
What is stopping you from just resetting for checks
it incentivise you to try and beat the final boss/finish the game as soon as possible
the fact it's a multiplayer game so if you try and do that you'll break the archipelago
also, have you played randomisers? most of them don't change the items you get if you restart your game
You said every time you buy a shop item
Oh, I get the confusion, the one next to hades, not the one where you buy blood/diamond/ambrosia
That one seems very not worth it then lol
Oh is it any item or the blood or diamond spesifically
Also, I might have missed some, I've never layed hades in an archipelago myself, I've only watched other people do
All permanent items IIRC
except for darkness
Bruh how are you going to possibly save up the thousand smith gold to buy a blood t high heat lol
Keys and gems?
okay, except keys and gems too
Do you start from a fresh file or no
yup
Cuz wdym every god keepsake
What is stopping me from just clearing a hell mode FF run
hell mode FF run?
I assume you start in hell mode to have the pact
But on the first run when you start a file it's forced to 5 heat
You could just beat that
that's modded out so you start off at 64 heat
also, some people really want a challenge so to finish their game they have to kill hades a certain number of times in a row
Fair enough if they do it at like 50
I've heard that most people do start off at heat 50 for hades archipelago, only people that really want some pain or those that are really good at hades start off at heat 64
I still think starting at 64 is pretty moot
it's definetly a challenge for sure
Unless you are one of the few people who ateast have a chance at 62
heres to many more
ggs
don't worry, you can always kill hades again to go see ||Persephone||
Time to do it again and again..
so how many runs do i have to do?
10 escapes for credits (main story) -> more for fun and epilogue and thhe rest of the content tbh
If you cried from the first escape I reckon you’ll have a great time with the rest of the main story
got a crazy combo
tried to reroll a lot on aphro/artemis boons the whole game but never saw heart rend
<@&456908176877551658> this is a scam
it's a dead bot is what it is 
wait that was a bot?
bot, hacked account, 
oh
IM SCARED
OH NO
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
what do the blue borders mean?
Did you get hit by one of dad's skulls?
definitely did, you can see the icon above the right side of the hp bar
it's sometimes funny to see 3 of them there
but what does that mean?
Dad has Boiling Blood like Zagreus
but his bloodstones make you take 100% more damage from everything while you’re affected
also are these stats good?
For the most part yeah
golden touch and dark regen are the only ones that are kind of just worse than their counterparts in 99% of cases
the rest of your picks are either your best option between the two, or there are good usecases for both options
i can't tell if you have to use a key, or it gives you a key
Uses a key to refund all your darkness
oh ok
Pretty useful before you have the darkness to max everything
wait how is dark regen bad? it heals way more then the other one
The problem is when it’s doing the healing like
The only time it’s really healing a significant amount are after bosses and the niche time you find and use a darkness trove
and after bosses you have a fountain anyways
dark regen is always giving you hp so it’s always hitting when you’re lossing hp through a biome
And during styx that’s like 30-75 hp right there that you wouldn’t be healing from dark regen at all
Highkey if you’re interested in the usecases for all the mirror options I summed it up a while back (from a speedrunning/high heat background) (and you can just @ me if u have questions, I’m at work rn but I have lulls in between projects to actually work on decently often)
this run felt seeded until the 4 sack 😭 😭 😭
guys wtf almost right after that one i get a few nice attack boons so i decide to ditch the special since its hestia with ricochet shot and somehow i get sub 8 which is INSANE for me
attack was doing like 1200
Holy additive
Lowkey ideal arty attack angle lmao
Olympian favor did work there lmfao
I am a family favorite hater, mostly because I've played a lot of hades 2 and the equivalent of the other side is like necessary
But even in h1 I think the other side of it is more fun
priv status just sucks in h1
its not bad 😭 its just not necessarily super easy to activate
it has uses for hangover focused builds and crush-burst hera and then whoops show is over
theres plenty of status effects 🙄
a lot of them are secondaries, sure, but its not like family favorite is getting crazy value early in runs
family favorite only really amounts to a reliable 20% damage buff
unless it counts chaos and its 25%, idk
Reliable yes, but more importantly applies on the first hit!
Hermes
i mean most enemies have so much health that that one hit is not gonna matter in the long run i feel
It applies on all hits, no gimmicks no weird cycling
Coming from a speed perspective it’s just infinitely better tbh
welp, ill take solace in that my original statement is still true
priv status is more fun
💀
Whoa hey no fun allowed
i like the puzzle that priv status gives
so many of them also just disappear really quick though. Hunter’s mark, jolted, doom will just disappear on you.
puzzle being apply 2 curses
the puzzle isnt apply 2 curses, its get 2 curses that can be reliably applied
admittedly way more strat limiting in h1
its pretty obvious
i mean its obvious if youre not going for a specific build
if you want to run athena or possidon dashes (90% of cases), both of them have a long lasting curse as a secondary, you can just slap another curse on your attack or special
well the problem there is that that means you need those gods in your pool and specifically for the dash which isnt necessarily gonna happen
if you are running like ri and ap sure
except it’s athena and pos, if you have them in pool they’re on your dash
and then theres artemis who functionally does not have a curse as far as privileged status is concerned 💀
thats why you use the other mirror
bah
the only build that i can think of rn where getting two curses is hard is rama with both arit dash and attack
you will have to use aphro cast or smth
As far as that goes, a fair amount of aspects would rather have that 25% so their strikes can reliably one-two shot an enemy with fiery presence
I don’t have the breakpoints off the top of my head
having people tell me that family favorite is the better of the two sides is the most disappointed i have ever been with hades
0/10, was only fun for a few hundred hours

You know what really elated me the other day? Figuring out the Support Fire from Artemis can backstab 
that's why it's not good lmao
basically consistent 25% vs chance of 40% that you might have to do either a weird combo or build in a way that forces it to work passing up better options
realistically speaking it's a 15% trade off, which isn't that much
in h2 there isn't really an opportunity cost for that (and also higher % and more ways to apply curses), which is why there's no reason to not run it in h2
how can it be bad when the beo 50 heat record uses it 🧠
bc it's beo
My fastest run so far
holyy, this run helped quite a bit with the Fated List :D
chopp nem 43 ish minutes spent (too long 🥀)
Got my first bow win today
EM4 first try
Welcome folks! This channel is for sharing your post-run Hades victories! We all have a red shade in our corner, and now we can be the red shades for each other!!
Please only share your victories here, and congratulations on your escape!
Should there be just a Hades boasting so @lime bane can have a place to post?
here's my most recent victory... excited to try new things when the new update drops!
You're only allowed to boast now if you win, that's the rules! 😄
This is great lol
Woops. Need to post that later when the update is live.
It is live
@surreal hare thanks! That's just a new save, though, for Hell Mode. 
oh neat
i would like to participate to this moment of the inauguration of the "boasting hades channel" to boast a personnal moment of accomplishement.
I learnt how to do a "spoiler thingy" on discord.
It was very hard because in spite of two fonctionning eyes, i couldn't find the || on my keyboard.
But i accomplished it.
Thanks to hades.
Thanks to this discord.
and i shall boast here this personal success which was only possible thanks to the craft, artist talent, and love of this wonderfull community.
Oh right, I can post my victory screen now. 
Of course it's Crutch ™
xD
Be kind.
He beat me up tho
Well learn the lesson of not to bully people unless you know for sure you can beat them up.
...
My first 32 heat run w chaos shield... Was 26 health away from getting wrecked but I clutched it ><
Oooooooo
Man, you really went out of your way not to have to take BP, eh?
Haha actually though
I do the same. I hate BP
Max CP2 just so you don't have to pick BP.
How did I win with this meme run
That was a while back, checking my screenshots folder and found that
40 minutes, wow.
That's a lot of button mashing
Not beta. It would show BETA in front of the version number.
Altho no tight deadline means I kinda just take it more slowly
I have a pic of mine, but it's a terrible photo of my actual screen, before I remembered I could snap screenshots in game
F12 bro
I just use the Microsoft/Xbox game overlay via controller
snipping tool ftw
i usually put a dense metal plate in front of my screen and wait 12 hours then mail daguerrotypes to all my friends
Gentle reminder to refrain from posting non-Victory Screen uploads on this channel 
Thanks @jaunty hedge , forgot about that xD
Just don't know how to make spoiler tag the image, right now you can only see the link
No worries, we're all learning discord a little bit
Trying the new aspect of ||Beowolf|| and it really opens up lots of possibilities (@jaunty hedge now it is tagged as spoiler)
Perfect, very well done
First win on the latest update and got to listen the duo boon conversation between Athena and Ares. 😁
First time use of ||Arthur|| Aspect. With all these backstab bonuses plus another ~70% from Chaos I was swinging for 1000+
That was close! Weak performance from my side, but Aphrodite's call saved me! And oh how powerful is that Zag's shout when using it, awesome!
oh boy
Finally got a neat run with Rama Zeus Special
and it crashes and I lost an entire run
||https://imgur.com/a/c2VOraV|| 2 down, 4 to go
For reference, while I did get ME, I also didn't get it until in the styx
Definitely made the Final Boss easier, but could have done without too
I went dio/ares for chaos
Dio on special to bypass dc2 quickly
ares rips through a lot when on your attack, and allows for the new duo
i believe i started with the ares keepsake however, as his attack and special both allow you to build aggressively for strong duos and builds
So I just found out that Pressure Points applies to Support Fire now
Pressure points applies to all types of damage: hangover, support fire, any form of dot, crystal beam, etc.
I knew it did on the dots, I just figured since it was such a relatively small amount of damage that it wouldn't on Support Fire. The "78!" that kept popping up proved me wrong, though
is this a pog moment gamers?
esurdituflkftdjri i wouldnt call this much of a boast cuz ik there are a ton of better players than me rn, but i just had my first run of the new update and i beat hades with one health left
i got a new record too
it was such a rush i felt the adrenaline in the tips of my fingers down to my toes
stressful, but v fun
Oh wow, great job!
congrats!! also noticing the bugged text on flying cutter; next time you see something like that, try to remember to
ingame and report it!
if you didn't already of course
ah, i didnt, thanks for the heads up
Hidden rail aspect build: ||Ultimate water cannon, highly recommended.||
With some added greens to spice it up
||Zagreus used Hydro Pump. It was super effective !||
First clear of the new update! Been a while since I ran shield w/ chaos...thing's an absolute machine
Well, it was fun chunking bosses with this
Dream double duo
YEAH I WAS FREAKING OUT
it was really close to the end in the second phase when i saw i had 81 health left and knew i could only live one more hit
but i saw i almost had my god gauge filled completely and thought i could get it ready just in time
it was
s t r e s s f u l
but really entertaining at the same time
i have only been playing the game for a lil over a week now but ive been playing every day and cant get enough
tbh those are the runs that make winning so sweet
Lots and Lots of Blades
I really wanted Artemis Cast Upgrade, but couldn't get it
I meant +2
Ah, fully loaded
🤣🤣🤣 that would be awesome to have mirage shot on that build
Getting the Mirage would be a nightmare to do
Too many boons and luck needed to build that
Yeah, that turns anything to mush already
Oh well. Ended up killing Dad in like 20 seconds
No one expects Zag to bust out his pocket buzzaws strapped to rocket engines
Everyone says frozen vortex is bad, but I don't think they understand how much extra damage the rifts do by moving slow and slowing down enemies so they stay in longer
I'd love to get frozen hunting vortex for fun one day
Yeah, it’s on paper good for the same reason as the Poseidon Demeter duo
Perhaps I should have posted all of that on "Builds and Combat" instead of here
Whoops
Which is just insane
The reports of the death of GY special seem greatly exagerrated https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/508224167498219521/725251840463339581/Hades_207.png
6 heat
Bruh
Are you even trying
People love to exaggerate 
I had given up on the time by Styx. The special whiffs probably killed my time the most
Festive Fog really is the Slaking of cast builds
this is busted
friendship ended with flurry blade. aspect of arthur is now my best friend
All right
I've hit a thick rat for 3.9k
thats the biggest number i've seen so far
Finally got a post-update win, and a very close one at that:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525963611655503882/725351457272102972/unknown.png I know it's only 2 heat and it's nothing to brag about but this felt awesome
bro the first victory in this channel was on 1 heat, victory boasting is for all skill levels! great job 
It's only 2 heat on fists, my chaos shield is on 15 
this build is sick
I am still amazed at how fast it obliterated Ornstein and Smough
https://i.imgur.com/DGEvACe.jpg
The funniest run for me so far
Yet Another First 32Heat Post:
Chaos Shield/Zeus, but somehow ended the game with R1 white Thunder Flourish. Also got an onion somewhere in Act1. No legendaries or duos. Weird run all around
I only figured out that Thunder Flourish was amazing on Aspect of Chaos a few weeks ago, it's wild.
Curse of drowning was STRONG with Talos
The Merciful End probably helped too.
my first win!!
Congratz man! First of many!
uh it seems aphro and arti are good fo first victories
My first win was largely carried by Demeter cast.
Second one too.
And then a couple days ago this one was fairly dope as well.
Getting some T H I C C doom procs with lucy https://imgur.com/FoTNUvZ
I'm feeling sluggish on it and a bit of a learning curve, but I'm not disliking it
First time clear. Sorry for the phone pic but I was jacked. 32 hours and 45 attempts later.
So uh... lol. I salvaged an atrocious seed with bad rarities and several meme boon rolls. Basically, I had bootleg God Mode, with constant Athena abuse (didn't even hit Stubborn threshold, I had so much invinc uptime) and the cold fusion death ray (with Hellfrost mines) providing a healthy supply of cheese. Also, it's 35 because I spent so much time in boon picks, lul
win number 2!!!
eternal chamber was better than expected
First clear of my new profile.
very strong synergy
Quite abit of duo boons, neat!
Athena's call really helped at the end.
@proper barn Did the weekly challenge! If acorn hits don't count, I just no-hit Hades
Woo! Congratulations! 
It makes me so happy you cleared it! You will be added to the
Hall of Fame 
this kinda made me like gy a little more again 😳
You were once part of the GY Gang, remember? Hehe
once upon a time lol
So.. this went outta control after I got two additional cast stones from Chaos:
Had stubborn Roots as well, but as you can see from my max health... I didn't need it lol
first time swinging Arthur around, man, that thing is fun
brutal
Killed Hades in a minute in a half, crap time for that setup but hey it's somethin lol
Got a crazy early exclusive access mixed with plume scaling into damage for a crazy run
Congratulations! Your highest heat so far too! I'm happy for you 
Your name will be added in the
Hall of Fame 
You really loved that Skewer huh? 
And so the streak begins once again.
Just got my first 32 HEAT VICTORY
No one can resist my Dionysus Twin Fists
congrats!!!
Highlight: Ran out of time (7:00) in 3F boss, bled from 1DD + 150 HP to 0DD + 30 HP, that was a close call
Thanks! 
GJ mate. Elysium TD2 is always hard.
XD
:3
First ever win, much longer runtime than most others I've seen on here 😛
Congrats!!
Thanks! Now to figure out how to do it again, hopefully quicker 🙂
With practice and experience! 
Yeah. And more darkness. Being more capable helps.
Stronger weapons.
don't judge me I used god mode
so much damage... easy to get plume stacks
when the game decides for you that Athena is the right choice 🤔
Second 32-heat clear with Aspect of Chaos, feels nice.
First Rama win, zero DD used
My fastest and smoothest run so far! Hermes MVP. Full Zagreus aspect + 30% attack speed and the feather with the dodge chance, didn't fail its bonus in any rooms. Poseidon call with Rip Current was also really helpful.
my second clear AKA "haha privileged status go brrrrr"
They had that sweet, sweet Lightning Strike.
Does Double Edge proc a second lightning bolt?
i... don't know actually ._.
This Beowulf build was insane, 25% of Hades health per 5 cast Charged Shot
Also had the 400% Bull Rush Power Shot hammer
Nice!!!
Parting shot might be OP
I am loving the new (and changed) Duos
This is the most diverse build I've experienced so far. I was juggling all my attack options at once. Very fun overall.
@fiery talon i love runs like that! where you have like 3+ avenues of great damage and you get to use them all
I'm glad I picked up side hustle early so I could spend my money on boons. Got Hunting Blades that way, which was a real game changer.
As a side note, Artemis offered three Duo boons at once that time and I didn't even look at all of them.
Luci + zeus + support fire = destruction
keepin the streak alive
tried to find fully loaded, didnt, but boy was this silly fun
This is the most ridiculous run I ever had so far
so many good boons ❤️
So I don't normally post this stuff, and it ain't special at all. But honestly this run may have been the most fun since I bought this game. I call it, "Bow Go Brr".
Challenge cleared @proper barn, looking forward for the next one ^^
Congratulations radish! I'm happy you gave it a shot 
One of us! One of us!
What exactly is the challenge? All green mirror?
peachy challengers assemble
@devout heron that and some other stuff https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/520688402958516254/724426194518540309
Another No Boons run. Dio and Ares tried to foil me, but I unbound cast and made sure to waste any Battle Rages. My highest heat yet :D
why not take god rage & dash attack since shatter shackle doesn't affect that?
I was going for no boons at all
alright
It's a fun challenge
getting heroic trippy shot with double duo was pretty fun, when triple loading it was doing 1.4k damage, also having charged flight even though my demeter boon for special wasn't the best was doing 400 to 500 some damage
every doom tick deals 1000 of damage o
Ex, its the weirdest thing, i had a very similar thing happen here, bless gram-gram and that tall glass of wine for coming together to make probably one of the quickest and easiest fights against Hades i've had. (Feat. Ares and Artemis as "What, am i not going to full clear the satyr tunnels?")
😮
First 10 heat
I had 3 lives at Hades, I was just trying to get him down as quickly as possible lol
decent run https://i.imgur.com/jpWdKk0.jpg
This run made me sad when I lost Greater Consecration, but not terrible. Got some nice new Duos.
I'd been wanting to try a Movement Speed build ever since I saw Rush Delivery, I simply got lucky with the rolls
This was a very good run. First time I reached heat 5 and could use the Tartarus portals. Got very good boons from Zeus. This was a blast
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/135418430638522368/726110626891563088/unknown.png?width=1204&height=677
Nice job!


