h1-victory-boasting

[primal crown]

bleh

hera stinky

[strong ravine]

true

[golden peak]

blade dash

[fathom ember]

New PB, 6s better than previous one

[golden peak]

sub9 soon

[bold jolt]

Free

[fathom ember]

I was thinking the exact opposite actually. I had great luck on build and rooms, and only 6s grind... Feeling more desperate than hopeful after that PB lol

Splitting 2.31/5.02/7.32/8.47/9.44

[golden peak]

Your pb can only go down and not up so logical reasoning leads us to believe it will get lower

[fathom ember]

Those split times are really really good for me, except Asphodel which is so so. But 2.31 and 7.32 that might only be the 2nd or 3rd time I get this

And imagine if I had a 3 sack Styx lol

[bold jolt]

i mean you only have common dash and lvl 3 doom lmao im sure the build could get much better

[fathom ember]

I mean Asphodel 5.02 is good for me but knowing that I finished Tartarus in 2.31 then yes it's so so

[bold jolt]

no impending poms either

build could be significantly better

[fathom ember]

I got impending just before Theseus

Would you have chosen more poms over more Zeus?

[bold jolt]

i mean point still stands, the build is honestly pretty mediocre lmao

[bold jolt]

yes

zeus boons are supplemental to your actual doom damage

[fathom ember]

However, I get this luck once in 15 or 20 runs xd Most of the time I dont even get ME in Asphodel

[bold jolt]

once you get sufficient doom damage, then you can start pomming zeus stuff

[bold jolt]

that's just how it be sometimes lmao

[fathom ember]

So if this build is mediocre, I mean I dont know when I can get better again haha. Maybe next month hahaha. And at that time I'll have sh*t room RNG

[bold jolt]

one of these days the rng will line up

that's how records are broken lol, just right rng at the right time

[fathom ember]

Im not sure if I should try another weapon now. I want to check other stuff but Im the same time Im obsessed with getting better on fists lol

[bold jolt]

do what your heart desires lmao

i personally focused on a specific aspect for a long while

i found it fun, then i branched to other things

once i got bored of beo

[golden peak]

I think i branched out by doing all aspects for both heat and speed

But not being particularly good at anything

[bold jolt]

lmao i'm only good at beo and above average at a handful of other aspects

i will say i am decent at rama for heat tho

[golden peak]

Rama :dread:

[fathom ember]

Whats your fists PB

[bold jolt]

8:15 on zag fists??? modded, lemme look for unmodded

ngl i didn't expect zag fists to be like 40 secs faster than dem

9:09 unmodded, prob dem fists

[golden peak]

I think mine is 7:31 modded

[fathom ember]

Still 35s better than me lol

[bold jolt]

i mean i've been playing the game longer than you

[fathom ember]

Have you played more Dem ME runs than me? haha

Cause Ive literally been doing only this

[bold jolt]

once i figured out how to build it properly and speedrun? probably not but that's because i put in a couple hundred hours into speedrunning beowulf before i did any other aspect/weapon

after those hundreds of hours i figured out how to build properly, spawn manip, learned wave timings, etc

and picked up on some technical bits by watching others play or just reading speedcord

speedrunning mechanics are a constant for the game, the only thing that changes on different builds/aspects is just aspect mechanic skill

[fathom ember]

I think I need to watch more other people now

I cant see how to do better otherwise

[bold jolt]

that'd help for sure

i would recommend watching people not around your skill level but like slightly above, and not watch the highest level yet

you can watch highest level for like build choices and mechanical tech, but i find it more difficult to keep track

[fathom ember]

I need to find them

[bold jolt]

speedrun leaderboard is full of runs

[fathom ember]

Oh right

[bold jolt]

i would link one of my runs but i dont think i have any recorded lmao

maybe i'll record one tonight

[golden peak]

I would try to play on pc modded asap

[bold jolt]

true modded does help with resetting and getting runs in faster lmao

esp with one of the most rng dependent builds in the game

[fathom ember]

But Im not sure I will get the same feeling on PC

Might be disturbing

[golden peak]

Bigger is better

Screen*

[fathom ember]

Maybe we should move to #h1-discussion

[bold jolt]

my pb is no longer on zag fists lmao

@fathom ember i recorded this run btw, i'll upload it youtube so you can watch it if you want
not the greatest fists gameplay you'll see, but probably decent enough lmao

[fathom ember]

You did it just now?

[bold jolt]

yeah just now

[fathom ember]

Wooow congrats

Yes please send me the video link when you have it

[bold jolt]

it'll prob upload it tmrw morning so like in 10 hours earliest lmao

[summer trail]

its like I never left

[snow hull]

heat record!!!

good duo with ap2, what a surprise

[primal crown]

Gaming
Also what mod settings are those

[snow hull]

uhh not too sure

it's the default except i allowed than

also i enabled the outro? although that isn't too relevant

[primal crown]

Ah makes sense, was just asking cuz of the icons lol

[timber night]

I actually just recently did my first Heat run!

Here’s my second successful clear! This OBVIOUSLY wasn’t my personal best but it’s the first clear with The Adamant Rail. Once again, I had a great build but not off the… rails like last time. (I’m so funny) Anyways, this was my ever first heat run so yeah, I guess I’m proud of it, lol.

For a heat run, I think I could of been faster but for a clear for the weapon: it’s not too shabby…

[timber night]

Here’s more of a overview on what I had, Skelly summoning is absolutely hilarious btw with the Rib Companion and the Myrmidon Bracer helped a lot with the last area, Styx. Overall a decent run!

[kind peak]

APH 62 Heat

Too low damage

[brisk flume]

Honestly might try the Rail Gun out next

[timber night]

Wow, congrats on that, must’ve been INSANE… how are you feeling about that.

[kind peak]

Long term torture.Dad fought for about 6 minutes.

[timber night]

God… wow that is unreal… what’s funny is that I’ve spent 6 minutes on the actual fight, lol. But still… that is something I don’t think I would want to try at all. But hey… you did it!

[strong ravine]

what was time at ely exit?

[golden peak]

30 sec overtime 😩

[timber night]

ely exit?

[golden peak]

elysium exit

[timber night]

Thanks, lol.

[golden peak]

np

[strong ravine]

?????

no it's not

meg is the strongest and there is basically no competition

skelly sux

[golden peak]

~~um achually ~~☝️ 🤓

[timber night]

I don’t have her companion yet so idk…

[strong ravine]

i mean skelly is still like the worst one

[grave vector]

i remember the skelly strats... then meg tech made him obsolete 😔

[strong ravine]

bouldy or than or antos are all ones that actually damage enemies

[golden peak]

dusa damages enemies

[strong ravine]

yeah but idk about that one

[timber night]

Skelly for a starter companion is okay.

[golden peak]

it does 8 damage

[timber night]

At least for me.

[grave vector]

well meta changed a lot, strats also used to be achilles with zeus cast and now its beo

everything is good forever, from a casual perspective

[timber night]

Oh yeah, META.

[grave vector]

yes, im talking about speedrunning and high-heat running

[timber night]

Wasn’t it something like Most Effective Tactics Available or something?

[grave vector]

but as a casual player you dont have to pay attention to the meta and can just do anything

[timber night]

Yeah, that’s me.

[grave vector]

never thought about it as an acronym

oh i just realized this is victory boasting

#h1-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat pls

[strong ravine]

its a clipping of metagame

which is a joining of meta and game

[golden peak]

yea i just googled it appentrly it is

[timber night]

Ok, will do.

[timber night]

Got it.

[buoyant bay]

Finally beat 32 heat lol. I was increasing heat one by one and decided to jump to 32 heat. On my 4th attempt I got it and it was super close with tight deadline running out.

[bold jolt]

gaming

just get rd

[bold jolt]

https://youtu.be/oAmiXa4CMAw

it'll be in HD in about 40 mins

[ruby spade]

Fast

[bold jolt]

apparently it's my second fastest aspect??

that's kinda cursed maybe i should grind fists more lmao

that run didn't even have good hermes or impending

good aspho rooms tho

and good/decent late ely

[molten minnow]

i actually think merciful end carried this build

[primal crown]

Nice priv status

[molten minnow]

i forgot i had it on

[willow bronze]

Nemesis at home fr

[tired cipher]

1. Definition of "never punished" LMAO. Play like a fool, tell yourself that if you don't get Patty it's alright, get Patty anyways 😎
2. Don't worry about the fact that I lost my 3 DDs, not even worried for a second LMAO

Time to get the Sword done with soon :)

[grave vector]

this seems like something to post in #h1-high-heat-strategies, you can embed images there and such

[brisk flume]

I did in fact try the rail gun

[brisk flume]

I’ve never felt more powerful

[quiet lark]

you will feel even stronger with crush shot or hidden shield

[terse terrace]

Whats hidden shield?

[drifting laurel]

just a little money

[fathom ember]

Watching now, Im at mid-Asphodel. Why would you not reroll your first Athena to get special instead of dash?

I do it too sometimes but I'd like to hear your opinion

Also Im checking your spawn manips, do you know exactly where to go everytime or do you do the "I go to the closest corner I can or I try to get close to the exist corner" strategy without much thinking?

[bold jolt]

didn't want to reroll and since i reset before lernie if i dont' have ME, i didn't think it really mattered. it's just there so i figured either way i'd have to get the special anyways

[bold jolt]

some of them i do know, maybe majority, but i kinda just bs it

most of the time it's closest corner and it's probably the correct one lmao

[fathom ember]

Ye and it was early. Early dash helps going faster I think. But I was very surprised you rerolled the purge. Like very

[bold jolt]

better hermes odds

[fathom ember]

Why?

[bold jolt]

having a call boon adds in 2 boons from hermes

quick favor and second wind

[fathom ember]

Im talking about something different I think

Wait a sec

[bold jolt]

granted i didn't get good hermes in the run anyways lmao

[fathom ember]

Here

[bold jolt]

yeah exactly

[fathom ember]

Aaaaah I understood

Ok got it got it. I didnt know that

[bold jolt]

i rerolled because i didn't want a call boon since having a call boon means worse hermes odds

[fathom ember]

Was it really worth it though? (even if we imagine you get a better Hermes boon)

Dont you want to keep more dices for ME

Oh well nvm I just saw how you got ME haha

[bold jolt]

i mean yes but since i'm hard resetting anyways i was chill with it lmao

[fathom ember]

Ok you flip coin haha

[bold jolt]

also since you want to roll hermes too, i kinda figured that i'd be getting more mileage from hermes this way too

[fathom ember]

I think I need to practice the corner strategy too

That might earn me 1+ minute

(At least actually)

[fathom ember]

@bold jolt You didnt cast even once against Theseus and the bull 😦

[bold jolt]

I guess I didn't feel like hitting the button lmao

[fathom ember]

You would have won several seconds at least :x

Casting is something I got used it

[bold jolt]

Idk slicing shot kinda just exists and iirc I didn't phase them at the same time so I needed to focus on the actual ME damage lmao

[fathom ember]

I play the 1 cast mirror thing though, not sure if I should stick with this

[bold jolt]

Stygian vs infernal you'd have to ask fists experts for that idrk

Infernal allows for more snipes tho

[fathom ember]

Fists expert say "do whatever you feel like"

[bold jolt]

Based fair enough

[fathom ember]

On this matter lol

[pallid sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/285694843181858827/1200381737449042031/image.png?ex=65c5f99c&is=65b3849c&hm=29a410d7b4057164b55f6c1523dd6089d100c49af02d8968025241c912537b74&

worst tartarus ever, saved by purple RD

[heavy solar]

Doubt

[terse terrace]

33 heat when

[brisk flume]

The rail gun honestly isn’t that bad

[strong ravine]

🤯

[left ridge]

Eris & cluster bomb go very well together
It gets even better with rocket bomb (aka clockets)

[ruby spade]

Yes

Just beat 16 with it

[left ridge]

Congrats!

[ruby spade]

Thank you!

[left ridge]

First run in over 3 months, did quite a few mistakes which made me go over the 12m limit
I did not get the 2nd hammer til late ely (no clockets ), I did not get 2nd hermes until styx, accidentally took a non miniboss styx route and almost lost the run a few times
Still a decent run considering how rusty I was

[worn eagle]

afk C2Dad, the most "skill-based" accomplishment

[left ridge]

[worn eagle]

this may require some context: Chamber 2 Dad (Also Known As "C2Dad") is a mod that puts the Hades fight into the second room of the game
for fun, and because no-one had done it yet, I gave myself one million HP and did the fight without pressing any buttons and with no boons

[left ridge]

Now I wanna try out that challenge lol

is it on nexus?

[worn eagle]

It is not on Nexus as far as I am aware. However, I can hand you the save if you want

navigate to My Documents -> Saved Games -> Hades, rename this file to ProfileX_Temp.sav with X being the save slot number, then open the save in-game.

[left ridge]

I mean I wanna try out the c2dad challenge, not the 1 million health thing

[worn eagle]

https://scientific-paprika-b40.notion.site/Hades-Chamber-2-cde6520eafd34f16a480fcb5df99aa11

[bold jolt]

Tbf you get 2 shot on c2 dad lmao you might as well have 1 million hp so you can practice lol

[worn eagle]

figured that, sent the million HP save since I would recommend a stupidly high amount of HP unless you are already a fellow seasoned freshfiler

[bold jolt]

The only way you don't get 2 shot in dad fight is if you eat 3 skull waves

[worn eagle]

wringer spawn -> tank 10 hits for 5 each

[bold jolt]

Em4 c2 dad and eat like 17 butterflies

[signal rock]

Mo' boons, mo' problems.

[blazing coyote]

just did a merciful end run

got merciful end in tartarus

the damage was crazy. It was my best run time at 11:23

[jagged rose]

New rail pb yippee

Tiny vermin stole my sub 8 :(

[quiet lark]

that is truly a build

[gray marsh]

wow i finally did it good?

[quiet lark]

you seem to be going for drunk arthur and true shot at the same time

[gray marsh]

yeah whatever it makes it sound like i know what im doing

[quiet lark]

give me your ea and duo luck🔫

[gray marsh]

im just build like that

[rose obsidian]

pretty ok luck

couldve had 4 duos but didnt care for it

[brisk flume]

Tried it with Crush Shot and honestly not that bad

[kind peak]

Zues 62 Heat

[strong ravine]

sick

[strong ravine]

u should join speedrun discord

[willow bronze]

unintentional pb

maybe i should play more ME

[woven fox]

festive fog ❤️

[hard solar]

Ice Wine+ Scintillating is a powerful combo.

[snow hull]

spin?

[worn eagle]

SPEEEEEEEEEEEN

[blazing coyote]

Just got 7 duo boons in one run lol

[tired cipher]

32 Heat on all weapons :)

[ruby spade]

gaming

congrats

[worn eagle]

Fresh File streak of 8

[pallid sundial]

gayming

[brisk flume]

Nothing special

[dense wadi]

Actually you have ares’ special

I apologize for that horrible joke

[brisk flume]

Thanks Hades II Frog

[dense wadi]

No problem

[brisk flume]

My fastest time yet

[mild stratus]

nice

[willow bronze]

gaming 32 fists

[ruby spade]

gaming

[feral quiver]

I still got it

was on pace for EM4 but no jolted so probably not 61-able

[bold jolt]

gamer

[worn eagle]

Fresh File streak of 9

[snow hull]

how the hell can you get ME that consistently? is it even reasonably possible to clear without it

[worn eagle]

1:
Fresh File run 1 has extra consistency rules that, if worked around, allow the player to get more reliably than one might expect. I'll usually enter dad with about every 1 in 2 runs. And when isn't there, then sometimes is.

2:
yes, it is well possible to clear without.

extreme example

that should tell you how consistent the category is if the player takes their time enough and knows enemy attack patterns

[snow hull]

blimey that sounds painful

[worn eagle]

dealing frickall damage sure was not the most fun experience, lol

[snow hull]

have you fresh filed hell mode?

[worn eagle]

have one clear, it multiplies the difficulty by about 1.5

Though I certainly have the skill to, I cannot be bothered to do it again. I find it unnecessarily punishing, doesn't leave much room for fun challenge runs

[worn eagle]

10-streak, I haven't gamed harder in my life

like 4/5ths of this seed were horrendous

and then styx came and (despite a 3sack) delivered all the goods

(athena special and ME)

[ruby spade]

Gaming

[pallid sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/285694843181858827/1201188783173939221/image.png?ex=65c8e93a&is=65b6743a&hm=f0c0198a270540b6f26f26d75ecc880a9df4f7b458a7b0dc64248c8b78537a25&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/285694843181858827/1201188845891371059/image.png?ex=65c8e949&is=65b67449&hm=05d1223b10c46cc01ce822b139ece336ad97c6defe3f2caaf0ff65b77bc6cf44&

Finally got sub10 on ALL aspects !

My luci run was cracked, I'm almost disappointed I couldn't get a sub9

I chocked pretty hard on the final fight

[golden peak]

sub9 all weps

[pallid sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[golden peak]

ur already halfway there

[pallid sundial]

I am not lol

I have like 5-6 sub9

[golden peak]

all weps

not aspects

[pallid sundial]

oh

maybe at some point, but I like high heat more. I only did that to try a bit of speedrunning (it's fun, but I like playing 40-45 heat more) and to get a bit of darkness for the ranks

[worn eagle]

have you heard of our lord and savior, Fresh Fi-

[granite python]

i think i see the appeal of fresh file. what i'm wondering is, doesn't it get boring because it's... really slow? do you only do fresh file?

[grave vector]

the joys of merciful ends never fade

[worn eagle]

it's decisonmaking is very unique. each run, despite having the same objective in terms of build, still offers a different experience almost every time. the bossfights are much different to play (and imo more fun) when one has to time their dash to iframe enemy attacks as opposed to mindlessly spamming the dash key. Hades becomes a rhythm game.
also, different choices will work for different people, depending on the runs one expects themselves to be able to clear.

in my experience though, Fresh File is a much better challenge run than speedrun

because resets are no longer required when challenge-running. hell, if one is unhappy with their consistency at the run, then never resetting is one of the best things one can do.

[worn eagle]

context: I got my first like 20 clears without savestating, despite that usually being recommended. I just did full low- to no-reset runs instead, because I wanted to get to play the game.

[worn eagle]

about the second question: I have dabbled in other things too (unmodded sub7:30 anyheat, unmodded 50 heat, all aspects 32, all weapons 40), but fresh file no resets is what has stuck with me the most. honestly, most fun thing I have done in my life.

[granite python]

thanks for sharing, it does sound interesting. maybe i'll try it some time

[lunar peak]

haha blue sword go SHING SHING SHING

[quiet lark]

use dark foresight

[lunar peak]

I 1 tapped the 2nd theseus phase

[quiet lark]

switch olympian favor

it will make your runs get a lot more boons and stuff

[lunar peak]

bro idgas abt how many boons i get as long as blue sword go shing shing shing

[quiet lark]

your sword can go shing shing even more

[lunar peak]

bet

[granite python]

after having to search all the tunnels for the satyr sack, i just went into the last fight expecting to lose. but, i beat fo2 dad with about 100 hp and no defiances left, thanks to hestia gun w/ aphro attack, zeus dash w/ static discharge and acorn💜

[summer cove]

woo 100%

[supple moat]

Nicee

[fierce osprey]

gg

im brand new to this game

[summer cove]

ngl 16 heat was not as hard as i was expecting at all

ig next is 32

[supple moat]

Good luck

[fierce osprey]

i just joined and im trying to find help

yea gl

[summer cove]

ty

[quiet lark]

damn 100%
i could never achieve such an immense feat

[supple moat]

Me neither

Props to you man

[fierce osprey]

and in 80 hours

[supple moat]

That's pretty good

[fierce osprey]

idk what im doing wrong

but i only have 1

[supple moat]

I've played hades for 130 hours (just checked on my switch) and I'm yet to 100% the game

[supple moat]

I can't even get achievements

[fierce osprey]

oof

[supple moat]

Nintendo Switch things yk

[fierce osprey]

ik

do you want to vc

maybe you could give me advice

[supple moat]

I'm not good enough to give advice

Also I really don't want to use vc with smne I don't know💀

No offense

If you want advice maybe go to #h1-for-new-players ?

[quiet lark]

you can use vc chat(yes that exists)
also we should probably move before dor starts existing

[supple moat]

Ah ok. Still tho

[velvet mason]

I finally managed to beat Heat 32!!

[primal crown]

the clear of all time

[willow bronze]

That is a clear one could do

[quiet lark]

that screenshot actually hurts me
im becoming too good at hades

[limpid mountain]

finally managed to understand beo, a bit sad i wasnt at least 10s faster 😦

chaos didnt bless me + frogot to take a mid shop room

[willow bronze]

32 spear

Time for bow 💀

[dense wadi]

I personally found bow a lot easier than spear for 32

Although I am a bow fan outside of heat so I prob have more practice with it

[willow bronze]

That's fair

I've never really liked the bow (kinda gave up on it early on) but oh well

[dense wadi]

I highly reccomend to practice with it a bit

Great weapon imo

really fun aspects too

[heavy solar]

Get your dash strike powershot rhythm down

Cuz otherwise you’ll end up relying on finding flurry shot

[dense wadi]

Yeah getting that figured out was amazing when I first started

Bow went from least favorite to favorite weapon instantly

[quiet lark]

i rely on hera

[willow bronze]

rama chonky

32 all weapons

[golden peak]

based abyssal blood

[willow bronze]

I had it on for hera but forgot to put it back 💀

This meant I was casting for BB the whole run

with no BB

[bold jolt]

Free rd

[willow bronze]

real

[strong ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779451865399368/1201400940138340432/image.png?ex=65c9aed1&is=65b739d1&hm=2794e3264893f388cf9d2c785d658f9f7c5ce96af9b2c6c042bde94bfbd49abc&

[golden peak]

Congrats you will reach 32 heat in no time

[burnt ember]

y'all I got 32 heat for the first time (literally grinded the same seed probably about 20 times and kept freaking dying at dad)

[strong ravine]

Grue

[golden peak]

There is a guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies if you need any guidance

[strong ravine]

oh wow

awesome

[worn eagle]

11-streak

[pallid sundial]

you're on a roll damn

[primal crown]

No calc risk carry

[worn eagle]

I have a few crisk wins already (one even in this streak iirc!) and would like to avoid more if I can :]

[worn eagle]

12 run 1 wins in a row

[kind lichen]

[willow bronze]

Where do you usually take damage

[worn eagle]

meg if I have no damage, asphodel (though just random ticks of magma damage), elysium, heroes if I am being stupid, styx if I get sacked / unlucky miniboss / am being stupid, dad if I misplay / get bad summons

[thick flame]

[granite python]

slowly working up to 32. need to practice benefits package, i take way too long killing those saviors

[bold jolt]

tbf saviors on hestia is kinda just horrible to deal with no matter what lmao

[granite python]

i did it

[zenith bough]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2290711113493533344/94E7D08BE6DC6DCBF660485D450C5A226E6EA7D8/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

did you guys know that having 213 damage per hangover tick is good?

[strong ravine]

eh

its on chiron though

[worn eagle]

unfortunately, chiron is chiron

(ggs though)

[limpid mountain]

where cshot 😦

[summer cove]

first time getting merciful end and i got my fastest time by like 4 minutes lol

[brave fulcrum]

"Throw Everything at Dad" build

[brave fulcrum]

The "Wanted to run Demeter but Smoldering Zeus is too good" build

[dusky lintel]

smair zeus call always steals the show

[woven fox]

Damn i love Arthur blade. Not only the extra health and damage reduction can make you almost invincible combined to other boon, but you can also get juicy blows dealing 1300 damage without even thinking too much about the build.

[strong ravine]

but can you actually deal damage

[woven fox]

As long as there isn't the forced overtime from punishment pact, i would say yes. When activated ennemies are a bit too quick for me.

[worn eagle]

13 run 1 wins in a row

that's 5 ME seeds in a row btw

or was it 6?

[primal crown]

In the name of hades, what the hell

[ruby spade]

what a gamer

[heavy solar]

Idk man your streak looks like it says 1

Nice impending doom btw

[worn eagle]

what's an impending doom, barely know 'er

[heavy solar]

Oh my

Nice doom poms

[heavy solar]

When do you usually hit ME in FF?

[worn eagle]

average is somewhere between end of asphodel and end of elysium (assuming solid decisionmaking and play), though the average for this streak has been styx

[heavy solar]

Hmm

[heavy solar]

As someone who never runs sword and has maybe a few 32 heat clears with sword, do you think I should leap straight in or practice with sword on mt regular save

[worn eagle]

the best ways to practice ff are 1: no-resets ff runs and 2: boss savestate training. can supply the latter if the speedcord's ones (ff channel pins) are too punishing.

mono-dash is played quite differently to 2+-dash sword

the two main difficulties I had learning anyheat and high heat were that 1: enemies ZOOM and 2: my thumb hurts after mashing the spacebar to dash multiple times, so I ended up having to take dedicated breaks to shake it out

[west cargo]

Decided to go with a zero heat run just to make sure I win my 300th escape attempt

[pale pagoda]

new record i got on my first varatha use :DD

[quiet lark]

dont useolympian favor

the other side is just straight up better, and itll improve your runs with more boons

other stuff if you want to be optimal:
||switch golden touch to deeper pockets
use greater reflex instead of ruthless reflex||

[pale pagoda]

honestly i forgor what that do sometimes i just be randomly clicking haha

[pale pagoda]

ooh okay i'll try it out next run!! personally greater reflex feels more useful to me but idk maybe now im more used to the game i'll see the diff

[quiet lark]

even high heat runners use greater because its just a LOT of safety

[pale pagoda]

ahh okok i see

[bold jolt]

Theres less than 4 uses for ruthless reflex

Gilgamesh, high heat em4 beo, and high heat zeus

[pale pagoda]

whats em4 beo?

[golden peak]

i wouldnt worry about it

[granite python]

em = extreme measures

beo is beowulf aspect

[strong ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523766637757726722/1202132599145766943/image.png?ex=65cc583a&is=65b9e33a&hm=e5766ac9b9d7af73f48c4de39f90dd1275aa2a071a4f72fcdbd9422206bda9ee&

[static bison]

honestly wish i had charged shot on with me, but defeating hades with no usage of death defiance is pretty good

[static bison]

did another one except with varatha and achilles aspect

[static bison]

last one of today

[snow hull]

How high is high? Is 50 high (for zeus)?

Because tartarus is really slow with js3 and stuff, hard to make td3

[pallid sundial]

that's why you don't take js3 and cp2 until laaate

high heat is a bit subjective, but 50 is relatively good as a starting point

[worn eagle]

32 heat can be seen as high heat already (it is the highest the game expects the player to go at least.) For some aspects this is less true than for others, Zeus is definitely among the aspects for which 40+ or 45+ could be considered high imo

[golden peak]

55+

i thin

k

[snow hull]

54 isn't high heat even? My god

[pallid sundial]

very subjective

high heat can be anything from 32 to 62, but I think starting at 50 is where most runs really need to adapt

[honest vessel]

first run

[primal crown]

Gaming

(tho as a tip, swap the last purple skill you have to the yellow one)

[honest vessel]

wdym

heartbreak strike to zeus attack?

[primal crown]

In the mirror

Olympian favor to dark foresight

[honest vessel]

oh

whats it do i dont really understand

favors more rewards of the kind in the description?

[primal crown]

You'll see more run only stuff (boons, gold, poms, heart, hammers) and less darkness/key/gems/nectar

[honest vessel]

ohh

i mean idk its my first ever clear so i havent nectared many people beyond first keepsakes and stuff

still need diamonds and tblood etc

or does it accumulate faster in later runs?

[primal crown]

For blood/diamonds, check the window to start a run and you'll see a surprise for that

[bold jolt]

For the purposes of taking ruthless reflex, then yeah at about 50 you can consider taking it if you're good with it

[snow hull]

Idk about good, I've never used it

But I'll give it a try

[summer cove]

got my rail time down from 19 to 13 minutes lol

[hot dagger]

Great job, doggo!

[bold jolt]

based comman haste and rd

[dense wadi]

Forget about hyper delivery, best combo is common greater delivery

[worn eagle]

Game, you've got to chill with the s, people are going to think I am cheating!

that's 14 btw :]

[bold jolt]

Bro just has a folder of 70 fresh file clears and sends them whenever he feels like it

[worn eagle]

good idea

[granite python]

yeah leave some of those merciful ends for other players please

[leaden stag]

It's not much, but I'm slowly going towards sub ten. New pb for now...

[golden peak]

how did you get the splits on the right

[bold jolt]

That's quite the build and mirror lmao

[leaden stag]

Part of the speedrunner modpack. I'm using only part of the modpack though, since I don't plan on submitting my times anywhere and only doing this for myself

[golden peak]

oh i was wondering why the thing didnt show in the top right

[strong ravine]

you have no modpack showing

oh

ok then

[leaden stag]

Yeah, wasn't going for any specific build and used shackles in tartarus and elisium :D

[ruby spade]

FIRST 32 HEAT CLEAR!!!

[primal crown]

gaming

[heavy solar]

Nice ddash poms

[gray marsh]

I BEATED EM4 HADES

literally shaking right now

that fight was so brutal

[quiet lark]

purge mistral when

also low tolerance is useless with dio call since minicall only procs 5 times

[bold jolt]

it's 6

[gray marsh]

what a weird way to spell congratulations but thanks

[quiet lark]

:zagtroll:

although doing em4 with gy is very epic

[summer cove]

messed up the final boss pretty bad but this is still my fastest time by a lot

[quiet lark]

heroic mistral dash and strike streak🤯
also very solid run

[static bison]

not the best run, but certainly one of the luckiest and chaotic runs ive had yet

[quiet lark]

poms where(use acorn and fated persuasion btw)

also very good speed compared to my usual runs

[willow bronze]

first heat clear with arthur, got very very lucky lol

[static bison]

i dont have the acorn unfortunately
will use fated persuuasion next run once im done with the current one im doing

[dry jolt]

recently got into hades

then

rng got into me

observe

i main bow and i love it

5 cast hera ppeeewwwwww

i was still learning mechanics though i thought certain keepsakes stayed

had like 40 on than

[primal crown]

Gaming

(also should swap olympian favor + fated authority to their counterparts)

[dry jolt]

that might have been before i had them

they switch to what?

[primal crown]

Dark foresight + persuasion (more run only buffs/reroll boons respectively)

[dry jolt]

oh i see

ill do it when i max persuasion but thanks!

im done needing stuff like nectar and gemstones

well not rlly but i dont need it like that

[honest vessel]

does it get easier after the first time what

i mean should also credit @primal crown for recommending the wombo combos

[primal crown]

What a gamer

[honest vessel]

zagreus
gaming

[static bison]

"fast" and furious

[primal crown]

The build of all time

[burnt ember]

this one was very fun, got very high number :)

[static bison]

this run was so chaotic, lost a bunch of dd's, ran out of time, and still beat hades

H o w ?

[honest vessel]

over the top

[worn eagle]

MEowulf lmfao

[honest vessel]

rngod go brr

[primal crown]

Lmao greater haste too

[worn eagle]

15, ME streak broken

[golden peak]

😌

hunting blades when???

[worn eagle]

I've done that
I've cleared FF at least once in posession of each duo, one or multiple at a time, and every legendary except for Black Out.

[golden peak]

:hmmge:

[worn eagle]

• a segmented run with HB for FF cast only

[honest vessel]

lord of death vs 3 beyblades

[honest vessel]

@primal crown didnt spoonfeed me boon picks every chamber this time

there's also a thicc +100% gemstone boon from chaos

[honest vessel]

spread shot rail rise up (also first clear without any build help)

bossing ability was definitely pushed to the limit since i spent all my extra lifes on redacted guy

[pallid sundial]

GG !

If you like spread fire, you're gonna love the rail aspect

[willow bronze]

👀

[bold jolt]

fat impending

[willow bronze]

At a certain point putting poms into dash probably gives more damage

[bold jolt]

after a certain point the poms in impending go up linearly at 5% per lol

[bold jolt]

this is only true for doom poms

[willow bronze]

Ah I c

[bold jolt]

which the build kinda does want but bigger impending funny

[willow bronze]

Yeah

[bold jolt]

the doom poms start to plateau but impending is just linear after a bit

[willow bronze]

gilgamesh is one of, if not the most aspects ever

[primal crown]

big stubborn heals

[bold jolt]

was this dash only lmao

[willow bronze]

nah, i was just frustrated with ME

basically dashing only tho

[quiet lark]

interesting mirror

[willow bronze]

well

[quiet lark]

actually most of it is explainable

[willow bronze]

I was planning for mainly dash, so first one doesn't really matter except for tart clear, abyssal bc I'm not really attacking, and authority for more pos

[quiet lark]

id honestly go for better pos than more

since you mainly just want good tdash and wave pounding

[willow bronze]

hm

yeah you're probably right, but last run I did tdash and only got common razor

so didn't want that happening again lol

[quiet lark]

just get pos

[willow bronze]

tru

[brisk flume]

Guan Yu was slightly stressful

[willow bronze]

truly

[leaden stag]

Welp, not a sub ten, but definitely a pb.

Which is funny, since I had a much better build before, but died. And here I managed to get to daddy fight with three dd and without any boons for dash or call, lol.

[static bison]

new record

[quiet lark]

gt spotted

[static bison]

fast and furious

[heavy solar]

@bold jolt @golden peak

Goodness glare my b

Bad photo taking

[golden peak]

rip

[bold jolt]

good poms

[heavy solar]

Good hermes too until styx hermes betrayed me

[bold jolt]

it do be like that sometimes

[heavy solar]

Got rd this time

This angle sucked but it reduces glare so

I’m taking it

[static bison]

really slow run surprisingly

[static bison]

pure strength

[worn eagle]

the winstreak ended after this
still, I think 15 is alright and I'll leave it here

[honest vessel]

tried to get ares and aphro duo but couldnt

instead was offered sweet nectar at charons shop at styx

[golden peak]

you can only get the duo if you have a core boon that applies doom

[honest vessel]

i was going to put doom on special but couldnt find any ares boons so i settled for a poseidon one
i was only offered doom attack but i already had heroic weak attack by then

[golden peak]

i dont think you can be offered a replace if you already have it heroic

[worn eagle]

just don't use curse of longing tbh

[golden peak]

they probably need it for the fated list

[honest vessel]

somebody point me at another channel for what boons would be suitable for nemesis sword? i just hear dash strike good, crits good, so i still had some artemis boons on

[worn eagle]

you say that, yet you have like zero crit-scaling in this build here

[honest vessel]

i was going for aphro-ares first

[static bison]

more power perhaps?

[honest vessel]

whats wrong

[pallid sundial]

I don't understand why put dem on strike and dio on special ? Special is a relatively slow (even with triple bomb), hard hitting attack, it goes well with %dmg boons. And dio on the other end goes better with fast attacks, like the strike of the rail.

[honest vessel]

idk its what i found first

[pallid sundial]

Valid xD

[honest vessel]

winter harvest works good enough with buffed attack + dem

i have the triple special ability to

[honest vessel]

we do a little lasering

[pallid sundial]

damn, you didn't get cristal clarity ? Unlucky. GG on winning despite it

[dense wadi]

I once did a meme beam with lvl 16 glacial glare and mirage, but never got clarity despite having the prerequisites in Tartarus

[primal crown]

Btw idk if you were doing dark Regen for the prophecy or not but the +3 hp per room is better

[honest vessel]

i thought with dark thirst and retrying bosses i could get some good mileage from the boss drops

[pallid sundial]

you do, but you also get fountain right after 🤷‍♂️

[honest vessel]

also how fast does cristal clarity turns the beam around?

i never got it lol

[pallid sundial]

very

it's not quite pinpoint but almost

you probably more than double the uptime of the beam

[honest vessel]

i stood ahead of the beam to try making enemies stay in the firing line

[pallid sundial]

gamer

[honest vessel]

zagreus gaming

[primal crown]

Fountain aside, +3 skill also works as a 6hp discount for chaos gates

And also, it works in styx

[leaden stag]

I wonder, are there speedruns that use Dio on attack/special? Damage over time sounds inefficient for speedrunning

[worn eagle]

dionysus hangover cores see some use on some aspects for high heat.

[pallid sundial]

dio call is ok for damage, although much worse than zeus

[strong ravine]

no

[worn eagle]

call isn't a core imo, it doesn't always behave the same way any other core would

[strong ravine]

in speedruns u will not be finding dio atk/spec in an actual situation

maybe playing chiron is different or something

but thats not real anyways

[worn eagle]

"tim 58 chiron is fake" 😌

(even that didn't have dio spec)

[strong ravine]

i dont think that was a speedrun really

[worn eagle]

sub16 kinda good 58 time ngl

[honest vessel]

maim + black out + nausea

[primal crown]

Nice

(also hangover new stacks override older ones, so rip your call stacks if you keep attacking)

[honest vessel]

oh ok so i gotta watch for highest hangover dmg source too

[primal crown]

Yeah, normally you only should have 1 source (also why peer pressure is a terrible boon)

[willow bronze]

It’s like dying lament, which is already aoe at home, at home, but like rotting in a box in the basement

[primal crown]

Nah dying lament is aight, decent enough for rats o' clock

[granite python]

was confused about how to make my build here, but🤷‍♂️

i get what you all were saying about tidal dash being good now. this was a lot easier than before

[honest vessel]

rngod has blessed me

super charged up trippy shot does the heavy lifting during final boss

[honest vessel]

explosion

[snow hull]

never used abyssal blood before- is it any good

[golden peak]

im an abyssal stan but it is generally worse than boiling blood

[snow hull]

i don't think you'd notice it much outside of bosses

[heavy solar]

Same with boiling blood tbh

[snow hull]

you can combo boiling blood

no?

depends how chonky your enemies are

[primal crown]

Boiling/abyssal don't stack with more casts if that's what you mean

[snow hull]

no i mean in terms of attack pattern

so cast, then shoot

[bold jolt]

I mean you can do the same with abyssal lmao

[heavy solar]

Yeah but on most enemies aside from miniboss and bosses this is just slower than just starting artacking

with a good build they’re dead before you get real value from boiling blood anyways

[golden peak]

if you mean eris specifically boiling blood is redundant

[snow hull]

Mainly early tart when you have few boons

[heavy solar]

And on the fast atk speed low damage weapons boiling blood is almost irrelevant

[snow hull]

And the extra health thugs

[golden peak]

only rail really

only eris actually

[strong ravine]

not true

[golden peak]

even zagrail and lucifer would use boiling blood

[heavy solar]

Tbf though

You have a big damage special there

Fists other than dem is like

[strong ravine]

boiling blood is very important for a lot of breakpoints on things like fists

[heavy solar]

wait huh

[golden peak]

rly

[strong ravine]

killing wringers is cast dash strike dupper

[heavy solar]

And… the other enemies it help w/ breakpoints over just regularly attacking are

[strong ravine]

thug

lout

idk

i dont play fists

[heavy solar]

ig they have enough hp

Oh that’s what I never finished in Hades

the fists builds I was “recommended”

[worn eagle]

"What's a fist, I only know beo, achilles, eris and hestia"

[summer cove]

32 heat cleared lets goooo

[willow bronze]

Lucky bastard 😔

[leaden stag]

Managed to get a pb while debugging mods compatibility. Kinda cheated though, I fought Dad for this like 20 times or so, restoring save file from before the fight.

[quiet lark]

poms where(also very good time and dad fight)

[primal crown]

got stolen from the perfect clear message

[little prairie]

New heat record with 3 acorn charges left on em4 yay

[quiet lark]

gamer

[quiet lark]

so many heroics everytime

and most of them are pretty useless

[granite python]

fffffinally got my nemesis merciful end 32 heat clear... only took me like 6 hours of trying🥲

[bold jolt]

ME moment

common haste rare rd based

truly impending at home

[quiet lark]

thats because your mirror is cursed

me should be fairly consistent with a maxed mirror

(use dark foresight)

[bold jolt]

ngl no not really

even with dark foresight and 4 fated persuasions it's still not great rng

[quiet lark]

its at least MUCH better than no legacy and favor

[bold jolt]

more doable but still a pain to actually get

[bold jolt]

i mean yeah but also pride's better

but "fairly consistent" is just false

[granite python]

i didn't take dark foresight because i was hoping for epic rush delivery also, to be fair to the game - the six hours were also spent just getting better at the game

[primal crown]

olympian favor doesn't affect chances for epic

[granite python]

i had ME like two or three times before but just... died

[quiet lark]

idk it seems pretty often considering my epic duo luck(i get one once every 2 years when i dont want them)

[bold jolt]

okay buddy

[granite python]

oh, right. i got that mixed up. how does dark foresight help with ME? more poms?

[primal crown]

more chances at seeing boons

more ares and more athena

[granite python]

oh. makes sense. well, next time i guess

any other mirror options i should have changed? i wasn't sure about it

[quiet lark]

legascam

[primal crown]

dark regen to uh, what's the other called

[strong ravine]

chthonic vitality

[heavy solar]

Typically the only time you getvalue from dark regen is when you’re about to see a fountain anyways

And cthonic works for styx tunnels

[static bison]

note to self: take flurry shot at any point you can

[supple moat]

First time using the timer (my blood is boiling and I've never felt so anxious in my life)

[worn eagle]

we speedrunnin' now

[golden peak]

thats a build

[supple moat]

Really????

I was playing casually, I just chose what I thought was best

[supple moat]

I have another run from like an hour ago but it's not as impressive bcs the heat is way lower

The run in question

[quiet lark]

dank foresight when

[supple moat]

?

[quiet lark]

use dank foresight instead of olympian favor

[supple moat]

Ahh

Alr

[quiet lark]

the ONLY time favor is better is for boonless

[supple moat]

I'm trying to get darkness for mirror talents so

[primal crown]

The darkness you get from chambers is kinda non existent

[supple moat]

Honestly

[primal crown]

Focus on darkness from bosses (defeat boss with heat where bounties are already claimed)

[quiet lark]

you get like 500 darkness for a normal clear without any buffs or streaking

chaos fish do also give a lot, but theyre too rare

[supple moat]

Ahhh true

I completely forgot ngl

Thanks for the reminder

I'll get to it as soon as I can

[honest vessel]

once more with (crystal) clarity

[quiet lark]

ares call

[honest vessel]

tfw no vicious cycle fating

[worn eagle]

-less fresh file hell mode lol

first try no resets

[pallid sundial]

big gayming

[primal crown]

talk about having only the gods needed lmao

[bold jolt]

Double A battery fr

[honest vessel]

orphaned zeus boon

[primal crown]

lmfao what happened there

[honest vessel]

heroic artemis dash strike happened

man if i rolled deadly edge it woulve been kino

[leaden stag]

Sub eleven, nice! Almost a minute faster than my last pb!

[primal crown]

is the 0/100 for call

[leaden stag]

Yeah

I don't really need it, I think it was turned on by default

[honest vessel]

satan gun close call vs final boss dk how to best use it

poseidon offered me his fishing boon at styx shop

lucky timing for buying the common hydraulic might instead

also jerky lol

[gray marsh]

finally solving family issues

[supple moat]

nice

[quiet lark]

use fated persuasion when
also for luci, you can either do what you did(and get eternal chamber/flash fire if youre lazy), or get triple bomb and spam special

[gray marsh]

my final win

[leaden stag]

Now go 32 heat

[boreal wolf]

First run in over a year

[quiet lark]

this was meant to be a chill derusting run after like 2 months of not playing...

also i missed ely well

[willow bronze]

derusting with JS3?

very real

[golden peak]

wrong shield aspect

[static bison]

fastest hades defeat 4 me (the boss not the game)

[honest vessel]

i got greedy and chose the double hammer upgrade at styx and it removed dedge

[golden peak]

what hammer were you hoping for

[honest vessel]

didnt think it through really was just greedy should have settled with dedge

[golden peak]

yeah there are no hammers that you want on sword

[honest vessel]

flurry was ok then i got deadle edge

[honest vessel]

i have mirage shot beowulf and still barely got through the boss

[kind lichen]

lvl 4 common cast and no additional cast dmg

and not a single Hermes?

how

[honest vessel]

where do i get more cast dmg besides poms?

[kind lichen]

chaos and braid from well

and hyper sprint+RD

[pallid sundial]

Hyper delivery is the best, but any source of global damage works. Billowing strength, the ares DD boon, and uh I can't think of anything else

[primal crown]

Dad call ofc

[snow hull]

they do have pressure points to be fair

[honest vessel]

whats is a dd boon

[primal crown]

Blood frenzy, when you lose a dd (death defiance), gain dmg for that encounter

[honest vessel]

heroic flood flare

good thing i found rare crop early bc it was common

[last sphinx]

WooOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

I still have no idea how this game works

[kind lichen]

there is another side to the mirror with different upgrades

just wanted to let u know cuz you only have the purple ones

[last sphinx]

Wait really?

[kind lichen]

yup

[last sphinx]

Huh

[kind lichen]

most people miss it lol dw

there's a flip button near the perks that'll switch to the yellow perks

[honest vessel]

excalibur is so good wtf

special --> unga bunga --> victory!

so what, i pour more blood into excalibur and i can ungabunga even harder

[pallid sundial]

excalibur levels don't help with damage, only with tanking

[honest vessel]

yeah i meant to say the damage reduction from the special lets me do it

[snow hull]

big doom

[leaden stag]

You know what? I'll take it. I was going for sub ten, but 0.4 seconds... I think it's more than enough for now

[boreal wolf]

Not the duo I wanted 😦

I took like no damage for some reason tho

[boreal wolf]

I got like almost none of the boons I wanted and ended up with this really weird build.

[white mesa]

i never want to do hades on extreme measures again lmao

[leaden stag]

The only good thing about em4 is music :D

[timber night]

Ok, I actually think I found my favorite shield aspect so far, lol!
H1|EM1, Aspect Of Zeus, Companion Battie, Myrmidon Bracer.

Also, I purge boons without knowing that I didn’t the UC pact, lol. I guess I was feeling different, god I swear this game speaks to me, man.

[timber night]

Agreed.

Not sure when I’ll beat my PB on Twin Fists tho… Hestia is a good rail aspect imo.

[primal crown]

zeus hestia

oh it's lvl 1 nvm

[timber night]

Zeus, Hestia?

[primal crown]

hestia is like the one rail aspect that doesn't want zeus attack and instead a % attack

[timber night]

Oh…

[primal crown]

but at lvl 1 the reload shot is kinda weak so zeus works better

[timber night]

No wonder why it was a little slow…

[bold jolt]

tbf yours is lvl 1 so it doesn't matter that much, but at max lvl it's a base 150 lol

you def wanna slap aphrodite on that instead at that point lmao

[timber night]

Got it, idk that. Thx for the suggestion though!

[timber night]

True.

My current run right now is with the Aspect Of Rama with Zeus on Special and Aphrodite on Attack in the final encounter: Theseus & Asterius.

[strong ravine]

beowulf:

[timber night]

Well, haven’t gotten that one yet… so….

[brisk flume]

Getting slightly faster

[leaden stag]

https://i.imgur.com/yN0X0Ur.png

DID IT

SUB TEN

[primal crown]

gaming

[golden peak]

Forgot to change to sd

[pallid sundial]

gaming fast

[golden peak]

Oh if I wanted to go fast I couldve lol

This was just a casual run

With good rng

[pallid sundial]

damn

you hit sub11 on casual runs ?

respect

especially on 32 heat. Though I guess only BP2 really makes you slower ? Maybe MM too

[golden peak]

I was trying to explain how to build merciful end on fists to a friend

[primal crown]

Nice beowulf well

[golden peak]

I seem to get those a lot don't i

[willow bronze]

all aspects 32

[bold jolt]

rd gaming

[willow bronze]

real

[honest vessel]

is chiron supposed to be easier than rama

[bold jolt]

chiron's a lot easier to play than rama but rama is a lot better overall

just very hard to play comared to chiron, which needs a lot less learning

[honest vessel]

its not just my gut feeling but rama attack is slower right

[bold jolt]

Yeah that's what makes it hard lol

Hits harder but charges slower

[bold jolt]

Why 49 lmao

[golden peak]

i forgor

💀

[bold jolt]

Amazing

[pallid sundial]

the last level of HL looking at you like

[golden peak]

WHt

WHAT

LOL

so thats where it went

[bold jolt]

Also hl4

[golden peak]

yea thats what he said

[bold jolt]

Oh wait you said hl not hi lol I should go to sleep

Idkwhy I read hs

[golden peak]

and you said hi

[bold jolt]

God I typed it wrong the first time

Yeah

Gn

[golden peak]

:bedge:

[honest vessel]

moral of the story: always bring acorn

wasted all my 1ups on dades and low hp from skill issuing at styx blade traps

[static bison]

mid run due to not having the boss-destroying duo boon that is merciful end

[honest vessel]

wtf cast... good?

bonus

[golden peak]

hitless attempt 1 lernie pink wave 1 archer shot 1 theseus spear throw 1 tiny rat 1 projectile from hades witch summon 1 skull shockwave

[snow hull]

duo/legendary boons are rolled separately, before other boons

so don't take an aphro core as it opens up another duo, halving your ME chance

also your cores are super weird?

[honest vessel]

ayy poseidon cast went well
wtf i love cast builds now?

hit dades fast enough he didnt even get to bring up the green urns

[golden peak]

this has got to be the category that induces the highest amount of tilt

[pallid sundial]

what category is that ?

[golden peak]

hitless

all the damage was in stx

[pallid sundial]

ooh damn

GG

[golden peak]

its so rage inducing

[snow hull]

Are you allowed chaos damage?

For perfect clear at least

[golden peak]

im not completely familiar with the rules but i think chaos dmg is allowed for hitless but not damageless

[honest vessel]

i do another ungabunga

[golden peak]

stray witch subprojectile 3 dmg stupid armoured chariot 23 or smth tiny rat 3 dmg

i should turn off than

[snow hull]

Throw yu has great aoe, pierce, better special boon and melee options

Have you tried?

[golden peak]

yea

hestia bestia

its just faster

[snow hull]

Why you aren't speedrunning lol

[golden peak]

dead enemies cant hurt you

[snow hull]

Sure

[golden peak]

this applies for casual runs too

[hasty hill]

my first 32

i would have never guess i would do it on the spear

Hunting blade goes brr. and Athena helping so much on witches

[golden peak]

1 lava 3 poison 55 bother

[willow bronze]

lmao

[dry jolt]

lol

[willow bronze]

stone gaming

[dry jolt]

I wasn't even really trying for it until maybe 5 or 6

[willow bronze]

imagine if it was a trippy beo run

[dry jolt]

trippy beo?

I'm new sorry

[willow bronze]

trippy flare on beowulf

[dry jolt]

oh lol

[willow bronze]

It takes a long time to come down so stygian soul is used, but the downside is only 1 stone, so people reset for stones from chaos bc it's almost unplayable otherwise

[dry jolt]

yeah fair I usually can't start away from 3 starting

boiling blood my beloved

[willow bronze]

real

[dry jolt]

I've been playing really well I got most of the achievements and finished the main story in like 40 hours

finished almost everything else in 30 more

genuinely such a good game it's a shame I tear through it

[willow bronze]

I felt that way too but I'm about 230 hours in and there's always more to do

theres always more heat and faster times

It's such great replayability if you like the combat flow

Also that's a based pact

[honest vessel]

purples of questionable utility

[golden peak]

1 (one) theseus call circle

why are zeus and dio summon randomized?

[honest vessel]

beowulf go brr

emptied out the styx shop too besides the extra diamond

mmmmmm gimme gimme those tblood

[dry jolt]

im pretty lucky

[willow bronze]

First 40

[quiet lark]

gamer(boons where, also why support fire pom)

[primal crown]

is hestia, what more you need

[willow bronze]

that's not support fire

its HM

[willow bronze]

I sold the boons I didn't need tbh

[quiet lark]

oh im blind