yeah same tbh
#h1-high-heat-strategies
edgy arrow
long axle
the game unfortunately has a lot of farming if you just want to beat the story and don't want to try different weapons/higher heat....a consequence of shoving story into a roguelite
agile gyro
hmmmmmmmmmmmm yes yes thats true
agile gyro
the game unfortunately has a lot of farming if you just want to beat the story a...
i want to do that tho
waxen relic
there's some nectar when you open any trove too
halcyon flame
troves have a chance of giving nectar if you clear them really fast i believe
agile gyro
sorry, different language
waxen relic
like treasure chests?
yes
long axle
i *want* to do that tho
then you'll enjoy the story....good for you
agile gyro
oh oke
mossy zinc
I've never actually bothered doing runs specifically for farming Darkness or anything, I just did whatever challenge seemed fun at the time or went up in bounties.. if that seemed fun at the time.
agile gyro
nice
waxen relic
I've never actually bothered doing runs specifically for farming Darkness or any...
me too
edgy arrow
same
agile gyro
i did a darkness-farming run once, when i wanted level 2 and 3 of the revive from the mirror
halcyon flame
yeah i never tried to go for lots of darkness myself
which is exactly why it took me such a long time to max out the mirror
edgy arrow
you’ll definitely get there faster if you farm, but imo farming isn’t that fun in this game
hearty onyx
The darkness comes naturally
edgy arrow
but each to their own
agile gyro
Is it "Death Defiance" by any chance?
mossy zinc
Like my first hidden shield win was 41 Heat and my second hidden shield win was 52 Heat, and I still had bounties to unlock for shield lol.
waxen relic
Is it "Death Defiance" by any chance?
yes
halcyon flame
i think i only have bounties for two weapons at this point
agile gyro
once you unlock all weapons and mirror slots, keys are useful only for trading are they?
mossy zinc
once you unlock all weapons and mirror slots, keys are useful only for trading a...
Yup. Pretty much.
agile gyro
the translation to spanish sounds rather lame
mossy zinc
Or you can have a collection of keys.
halcyon flame
no real reason to go for all bounties because you'd have much more than you need by the time you're done with it
agile gyro
Its "Desafío Mortal" which basically means "Deadly Defiance" instead of "Desafío a la Muerte" which is more like "Defiance to Death"
mossy zinc
You won't have everything unlocked by the time you finish all bounties, no.
agile gyro
Or you can have a collection of keys.
nice
long axle
btw if any of you haven't, I'd encourage you to start a save after 1.0. The wins feel much more impactful.
waxen relic
Its "Desafío Mortal" which basically means "Deadly Defiance" instead of "Desafío...
#hades-localization but i'm not sure how much they do anymore
halcyon flame
i think a bunch of people here have done that
agile gyro
i got the game on switch btw, i pressume the last version since i got it 2 weeks ago
mossy zinc
More impactful?
edgy arrow
btw if any of you haven't, I'd encourage you to start a save after 1.0. The wins...
okay i’ve actually done this for hell mode, and i’m not sure how they’re more impactful
agile gyro
<#652598103504846858> but i'm not sure how much they do anymore
yeah i figured that but i was a bit hesitant since it is such a relevant text in the game
edgy arrow
like, is it because you have less resources and it’s harder? because like, you can just do that with heat anyway
long axle
More impactful?
I initially beat the game on a save that had everything maxed out and it was very easy to clear a run....so it felt more like a chore to get the dialogue
edgy arrow
why was your save maxed before you won lol
long axle
why was your save maxed before you won lol
I started in jan 2020
agile gyro
oke i submitted the thing in #hades-localization
long axle
Lol i dunno I had 150 hours before 1.0.....i had enough unclocks to beat the game every run
agile gyro
honestly its super nice of them to have this kind of channel
edgy arrow
oh wait you mean your first 1.0 win
okay that makes sense
lol i thought you meant your first win full stop
long axle
oh no lol
mossy zinc
Well, fresh file for me isn't particulary challenging, either. It just feels like a drag somewhat until I've unlocked the summons I want and stuff to 50+ Heat lol.
agile gyro
i have version 1.0.37136 according to the switch
long axle
I started a new save after 1.0 i mean
edgy arrow
Lol i dunno I had 150 hours before 1.0.....i had enough unclocks to beat the gam...
okay but still this is a problem that heat was designed to solve
agile gyro
also i have just over 30 hours on it so yeah im rather new to it
edgy arrow
no shade if you prefer to reset ofc
long axle
Well, fresh file for me isn't particulary challenging, either. It just feels lik...
ya but it still took me 3-4 tries and i couldn't take runs for granted. fewer DDs etc.
agile gyro
funny how the average is beating the game in run 30 or 31 and i beat it attempt 30
mossy zinc
Only the devs would know the actual average.
long axle
okay but still this is a problem that heat was designed to solve
ya but heat doesn't have a coherent story....it's just a milestone....the dialogue from persephone ties very well into the struggle of getting to the surface that I think I missed by having too many unlocks before 1.0
waxen relic
all the freshfiles would destroy the actual average
agile gyro
lol
edgy arrow
fair enough
long axle
like....she's saying come back whatever it takes and i'm here with 3 DDs and max hestia going....aaaaaah ok?
edgy arrow
i just struggled to win anyway because of all the heat i used as a matter of course by then lol
mossy zinc
The fresh file runners are a very very small factor compared to the huge number of players they have tbh.
edgy arrow
yeah it’d even out
waxen relic
sure
edgy arrow
thousands of folks play this game
agile gyro
honestly its a shame this is the only active channel atm because yall are talking about heat and stuff and i just... wanna talk to someone
long axle
ya i don't blame the devs at all....just a little suggestion for anyone who'd like to experience the game a different way
agile gyro
about Hades, that is
gaunt fiber
fresh file hard
mossy zinc
I mean it's active because you're here asking questions lol.
waxen relic
honestly its a shame this is the only active channel atm because yall are talkin...
it depends on the time, i think a lot of people are americans in the server
edgy arrow
i think the other channels are usually fairly active
agile gyro
it depends on the time, i think a lot of people are americans in the server
fair enough
im GMT+1 over here
mossy zinc
Most high heat players moved to the #high-heat channel in the speedrun server for whatever reason. Not really a fan of it, but it is what it is.
long axle
honestly there are too many channels here
edgy arrow
oh yeah i keep forgetting about the speedrun server
i should prolly be more active over there
since i pretend to speedrun sometimes these days
long axle
ooooh you guys do speedruns too? that's how i got to 150 hours before 1.0 lmao
long axle
I have like a 10:10 clear
edgy arrow
yeah there’s a lot of overlap between heat players and speedrunners these days
agile gyro
i wanted to talk about the unexplainable absence of my bois hephaestus and apollo but this didnt seem like the ideal place to talk about that
edgy arrow
also yeah TD gonna TD
long axle
yeah there’s a lot of overlap between heat players and speedrunners these days
tryhards smh
mossy zinc
i should prolly be more active over there
Not you, too. 
edgy arrow
i can be active in two places
gaunt fiber
i should prolly be more active over there
poggies
long axle
i mean that includes me
halcyon flame
some high heaters do like speedrunning too, i may or may not be leaning into that overlap
agile gyro
my record is 26 minutes i believe
mossy zinc
m not a speedrunner, I just get speedrun WRs by accident. 
agile gyro
lmao
long axle
i wish i were that modest
halcyon flame
boonless mirrorless 32 heat hestia speedrun wr
gaunt fiber
tfw when resetting 200 times a day is an accident
halcyon flame
32 heat fresh file speedrun wr when
mossy zinc
I don't reset that much lol.
long axle
spend half the day dying in asphodel lava
halcyon flame
spend half the day dying in asphodel lava
high heat in a nutshell
agile gyro
im a casual player, i got 63-heat-boonless-mirrorless in 15 minutes by accident
gaunt fiber
spend half the day dying in asphodel lava
that's a good way to reset
edgy arrow
im a casual player, i got 63-heat-boonless-mirrorless in 15 minutes by accident
okay but you’d be shocked how many folks genuinely try to get us to believe this happened
mossy zinc
that's a good way to reset
You reset way more at high heat than I do in speedruns, you just call it "dying".
agile gyro
okay but you’d be shocked how many folks genuinely try to get us to believe this...
WHAT LOL
gaunt fiber
You reset way more at high heat than I do in speedruns, you just call it "dying"...
Yeah but I die a natural death 
edgy arrow
yeah people just wanna boast sometimes and they have no idea that they’re saying they did something no one has ever done
mossy zinc
It's a natural death when I go afk to make some tea while resetting.
true fable
resetting is a part of life
agile gyro
oh btw, what are exactly the things you unlock after getting to hades the first time? Demeter boons, I believe, anything else?
halcyon flame
okay but you’d be shocked how many folks genuinely try to get us to believe this...
actually when was the last time someone claimed to do 63 heat here and then never provide proof?
true fable
once you get to a certain level in hades the video game you simply must reset
agile gyro
gotem
gaunt fiber
once you get to a certain level in hades the video game you simply must reset
I refuse
true fable
nyaanyaa i almost got a sub 15 pash flare RTA run today
shy gulch
then suffer
true fable
its good again
agile gyro
where can i get a list of the banned words so i can avoid them
edgy arrow
actually when *was* the last time someone claimed to do 63 heat here and then ne...
true i think it was a while ago now
maybe they’ve learned?
true fable
aphrodite has strong casts
long axle
the language restrictions here are harder to navigate than 60 heat btw
shy gulch
pash flare has been good we were just misled by wriste13
gaunt fiber
then suffer
fine
shy gulch
we should’ve been disciples of the Aphrodite temple all along
gaunt fiber
the language restrictions here are harder to navigate than 60 heat btw
hot take
edgy arrow
lol
mossy zinc
nyaanyaa i almost got a sub 15 pash flare RTA run today
Nice! 💕
agile gyro
i always avoid aphrodite
shy gulch
don’t say that here
agile gyro
but i knew today that she has the highest % upgrades
mossy zinc
.......
shy gulch
LOL
edgy arrow
uh oh
gaunt fiber
i always avoid aphrodite
understandable
halcyon flame
oh god oh no he's gonna be fed to the crocodiles
agile gyro
oh god what have i said
mossy zinc
understandable
gaunt fiber
I'll catch up Bright
agile gyro
oh so i assume nyaanyaa is an aphrodite simp?
true fable
tired of dying on a stupid furry fists
gaunt fiber
Be careful
true fable
i believe in you astaos
mossy zinc
"simp"
edgy arrow
and arthur? idk
mossy zinc
How disrespectful.
edgy arrow
was i right
gaunt fiber
Really? 😢
mossy zinc
m the high priestess of the Temple of Aphrodite.
halcyon flame
she's a high-ranking simp
true fable
zag spear might have been the 5th or 6th i did
same with arthur
zag sword/zag fists/gilga/talos
edgy arrow
fair
shy gulch
h e r a
edgy arrow
thing about zag spear is flurry jab exists
shy gulch
wait I was there
agile gyro
m the high priestess of the Temple of Aphrodite.
The Master of Simps
edgy arrow
hmm turns out fists hard
shy gulch
fists are bad
edgy arrow
makes sense honestly
halcyon flame
gilga is ez
agile gyro
im a hephaestus simp
halcyon flame
just build splash dash lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
true fable
gilga is pretty fun until 50 heat
agile gyro
im a hephaestus simp
too bad hes NOWHERE TO BE FOUND HUH
long axle
how do you even win with fists at high heat?
true fable
45 is the point where gilga stops being a fun weapon
shy gulch
@ tail
agile gyro
fists are bad
shy gulch
you don’t win you just cry
gaunt fiber
i think talos might be worse than gilga
I don't think so but I could be wrong. I think it's matter of jolted resets and being good at malphon while gilga is gilga
edgy arrow
just get splitting bolt in tart :)
tail’s literally never gonna live this down
mossy zinc
Damned heretics in chat. 
shy gulch
he shouldn’t
edgy arrow
it’s like, the gilgamesh meme
true fable
I don't think so but I could be wrong. I think it's matter of jolted resets and ...
even just jolted wont carry your damage
long axle
fists attack is awful and special is barely serviceable
true fable
talos is just sad
shy gulch
nyaanyaa it’s not my fault you main a crappy weapon
agile gyro
Damned heretics in chat. <:zfiestAngry:814620517457330176>
"Blasted wretches"
shy gulch
fists
true fable
RIP nyaanyaa
mossy zinc
...
shy gulch
malphon
true fable
arent you a hera player now anywho
shy gulch
the twin fists, one might even say
true fable
stop caring about malphon
gaunt fiber
p u n i s h e d
true fable
you have a better weapon now
honest kernel
why do i like shield so much
shy gulch
hera is good tho I’m glad you’ve decided to be a hera gamer
honest kernel
lol
true fable
because shield is good
edgy arrow
i think Nyaanyaa mostly mains crush shot these days
agile gyro
fists
ironic how my second win was using fists with an aphrodite boon on them... but yea aphrodite sucks and so does malphon
true fable
which one do you like
mossy zinc
I main the Eternal Rose.
honest kernel
ares is good
mossy zinc
agile gyro
i main Coronacht with the first/base aspect
agile gyro
ares is good
yes
honest kernel
how do u get the bows hidden aspect?
agile gyro
jinnans digging their own grave here
im a he 👌
honest kernel
i have the shield sword and spear hidden aspects
true fable
🆗
agile gyro
aphrodite sucks??? D:
just joking around, but i really dont like the "weak" status effect
true fable
bow hidden aspect i believe you talk to artemis?
could be wrong
and weak is absurdly strong
edgy arrow
how do u get the bows hidden aspect?
put 5 titan blood into bow aspects and then do a lot of runs with bows until you get the unlock phrase
true fable
it's 30% damage reduction
mossy zinc
I have more clears with Coronacht than with Malphon, by the way.
agile gyro
it's 30% damage reduction
i mean the idea is to not get hit at all
edgy arrow
okay but do you
true fable
you dont need to explain that to me lol
agile gyro
I have more clears with Coronacht than with Malphon, by the way.
thats because coronacht is goated
true fable
i've done 50 heat on all but 4 aspects
getting hit is part of it
you want to make sure getting hit isnt costly as well
weak is incredibly strong
agile gyro
you dont need to explain that to me lol
it wasnt an explanation but rather a clearance
edgy arrow
nah but for real i think that’s genuinely a big part of the general dislike new players tend to have for aphro
mossy zinc
Don't speak to me, heretic.
true fable
especially if you find any other sources of damage reduction
edgy arrow
folks are like “eh, damage reduction? i just won’t get hit” then they get hit
true fable
part of it is that the game doesnt explain to you that damage reduction is multiplicative
agile gyro
it would be better if weak mad the enemies take 30% more damage instead of deal
edgy arrow
which is fair; lotta numbers to keep track of
halcyon flame
30% damage reduction is gonna matter a lot whether you're at high heat or not
shy gulch
stonks
true fable
weak + sturdy + something like arthur's holy ground means you take only around one third of the initial damage
that's effectively tripling your HP
halcyon flame
besides, she has the highest raw damage out of all the gods, she's goated for oneshotting enemies
agile gyro
folks are like “eh, damage reduction? i just won’t get hit” then they get hit
not saying that, but instead i try to not get hit, weak only comes in useful when an enemy hits you and that certain enemy must have weak (which is temporary) and also reduces only a third of the damage. Nope i dont buy it
true fable
aphrodite also does have the highest base modifier
edgy arrow
^
shy gulch
usually the way you apply weak is pretty easy and has good damage since aphro gives good dmg anyways
so it’s not like ur going out of ur way just for the effect (which again, is still very good)
edgy arrow
yeah but the enemies they’re hitting you tend to be the ones they’re close to you
true fable
"reduces only a third of the damage" is a bit lol
halcyon flame
charged skewer on hidden spear with heartbreak flourish is easy oneshots
gaunt fiber
Well just hit enemies and then they're weak
agile gyro
that's effectively tripling your HP
if you manage to hit every single enemy periodically with the attack that has the weakening boon, then yes
edgy arrow
you know, they same enemies you’re hitting repeatedly
mossy zinc
You're arguing with some of the very best players that Weak doesn't matter when you have like less than a handful of clears. Just putting that into perspective for you.
true fable
LOL
shy gulch
damn
agile gyro
aphrodite also does have the highest base modifier
yea honestly thats what makes her not unsufferable
shy gulch
really gotta flex like that
honest kernel
i never checked out the speedrun cord because speedrunning seems like suffering to me
shy gulch
is high heat not suffering
agile gyro
You're arguing with some of the very best players that Weak doesn't matter when ...
y e s
shy gulch
are we not all suffering
true fable
its honestly quite fun unless you get sucked too deep into the grind toffel
give it a try
shy gulch
^
halcyon flame
aphrodite also has some nutty potential for damage with duos
edgy arrow
speedrunning is suffering yeah
shy gulch
agree
honest kernel
maybe
shy gulch
w bright
agile gyro
still allowed to share my opinion, or am i?
edgy arrow
it’s a big trap don’t speedrun
shy gulch
no opinions allowed
true fable
your opinion is allowed
agile gyro
thnak you
halcyon flame
smoldering air is the best example i could think of for aphrodite contributing a lot of damage
shy gulch
if you haven’t done 64 heat on ur first try unseeded
true fable
out of curiosity
honest kernel
cant wait to reset for 3h in tart
shy gulch
opinion doesn’t count
edgy arrow
ofc high heat is also suffering and a trap
true fable
do you use privileged status?
gaunt fiber
Jinnans weak is 30% base which can get better with Broken Resolve, not to mention stacking damage reduction. It's an amazing tool. There's not way you're getting hit by an enemy without applying weak in the first place imo
edgy arrow
so ymmv
true fable
just curious
agile gyro
well my opinion is that i avoid aphrodite as much as i can
halcyon flame
cant wait to reset for 3h in tart
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
shy gulch
the good thing about speedrunning is that u don’t have to reset for 3h in tart until ur going for absolute top times generally
most ppl forget that but
it happens
honest kernel
the high heat vibe check: "do you use priv status?"
edgy arrow
yeah i don’t do that lol
gaunt fiber
well my opinion is that i avoid aphrodite as much as i can
You should not, core boons are rather strong and some duos are super good
edgy arrow
^
agile gyro
Jinnans weak is 30% base which can get better with Broken Resolve, not to mentio...
that requires several boons that im willing to give other uses to, not saying thats bad i just prefer other types of build
edgy arrow
yeah even if you hate the DR just take her for the damage
halcyon flame
aphro has one "niche" duo boon
edgy arrow
give her a chance; i promise you won’t regret it
halcyon flame
her boons in general are very nice
gaunt fiber
Weak is fine on its own and it's O N E boon
shy gulch
at the very least you’ll appease nyaanyaa
honest kernel
aphro is super super good yes
shy gulch
by giving aphro a chance
agile gyro
i mean i once beat hades with malphon with an aphrodite boon on the standard
waxen relic
funny how both Weak isn't good and Hard Labor is terrible are popular traps
true fable
jinnans, do you use priv status
edgy arrow
yeah Nyaanyaa’s crocodiles are prolly real so there’s that as well
mossy zinc
They are.
shy gulch
bright insistent
agile gyro
oh btw can someone confirm that the auto-shot daedalus hammer upgrade on coronacht is wickedly broken?
gaunt fiber
at the very least you’ll appease nyaanyaa
It's too late for that we already lost her imo, prolly unleashing destruction IRL rn
halcyon flame
flurry shot?
honest kernel
its not broken but its good
true fable
flurry shot is good yeah
agile gyro
yea that one
halcyon flame
yeah it's good
agile gyro
nice
edgy arrow
i hate it but it’s good yeah
true fable
it's broken on some bows
shy gulch
it’s quite gamer
true fable
notably zag and hera
halcyon flame
i haven't tried it myself but i've seen it put into practice
shy gulch
it’s pretty broken on rama too
agile gyro
so far ive gotten 2 daedalus moods: Broken or Garbage
halcyon flame
flurry shot looks a lot like some sort of heavy-duty rail with slower fire rate and hitstun lol
that works for me
agile gyro
one time i got flurry shot + artemis upgrade on standard and it dealt ridiculous amounts of damage
edgy arrow
that is indeed a pro strat
halcyon flame
flurry + twin shot 
agile gyro
lol nice
true fable
jinnans do you use privileged status, the purple mirror upgrade opposite to family favorite
shy gulch
a pro gamer strat
true fable
this is a part of a server wide poll
agile gyro
twin shot is the ONE hammer upgrade i have yet to get
edgy arrow
this is a part of a server wide poll
oh can i be part of your poll
agile gyro
jinnans do you use privileged status, the purple mirror upgrade opposite to fami...
is that the one that gives you higher dual boon probability or something like that?
true fable
gives you 40% damage on enemies with two curses
edgy arrow
send help
agile gyro
if its one of the latter upgrades the no
agile gyro
gives you 40% damage on enemies with two curses
oh yeah i have that one
true fable
the duo boon probability is god's legacy
WOOO NEVER WRONG BABY
LITERALLY 100% PS DETECTION RATE
IM SO GOOD AT THIS GAME
shy gulch
I hate it here
agile gyro
how do you call the poison-like curse dionysus gives
honest kernel
agile gyro
how do you call the poison-like curse dionysus gives
hm?
shy gulch
yeah that’s hangover
edgy arrow
it used to be called poison then they changed it
mossy zinc
m a witch. I don't think Bright01 is a witch.
halcyon flame
p.status is a noob trap smhsmhsmshshmshmsmhshsmmsshshsmshshshsshsshjsmshmsmhmshmshs
agile gyro
it used to be called poison then they changed it
makes more sense now
true fable
TIL hadesprofessor is a noob
edgy arrow
yeah since they satyrs poison you so they wanted a different name
halcyon flame
nyaanyaa is indeed a witch. have you seen how many times she's cleared with bow
agile gyro
in general dionysus is one of my most prioritized (does this word exist?) gods
true fable
hadesprofessor is probably one of the highest profile priv status users
gaunt fiber
m a witch. I don't think Bright01 is a witch.
You're a flamewheeler
honest kernel
dio is pretty cool so that gets a pass
halcyon flame
nyaanyaa is indeed a witch. have you seen how many times she's cleared with bow
or hera alone for that matter really
agile gyro
yeah since they satyrs poison you so they wanted a different name
i hate satyrs so much
mossy zinc
nyaanyaa is indeed a witch. have you seen how many times she's cleared with bow
Yeah, I cast a lot.
edgy arrow
hadesprofessor is probably one of the highest profile priv status users
holy crap i didn’t know this
this makes me very happy for some reason
shy gulch
his explanation is “bigger number”
shy gulch
which is accurate
mossy zinc
@gaunt fiber shut up, 
. I'll be turning you off later. Permanently.
shy gulch
it is, in fact, bigger number
true fable
there is the argument that its better for bossing at lower heats and at higher heats you dont get that mirror option anyway
agile gyro
will i get bullied if i say that i like dionysus' boons?
honest kernel
no.
true fable
depends
gaunt fiber
Just try me
true fable
core boons good
mossy zinc
You'll get bullied, either way.
true fable
support boons are hit or miss
halcyon flame
yeah hangover can shine at times
true fable
agile gyro
the one that makes fountains heal all the healthbar is one of my faves
shy gulch
I love that emote
agile gyro
and hangover with exagryph works wonders
honest kernel
high heat channel is bullying central, but it's mostly self bullying
true fable
S T R O N G D R O N K
shy gulch
yesbulli
edgy arrow
high heat channel is bullying central, but it's mostly self bullying
feeling called out rn
halcyon flame
strong drink is great until you're at 32 heat with lc4 on and have zero heals outside of stubborn defiance
agile gyro
once i had an incredibly broken standard-attack rail build
true fable
LOL
halcyon flame
high heat channel is bullying central, but it's mostly self bullying
lol that's not true. anyways i'm awful at this game
true fable
usually zeus is preferred on exagryph but it requires a lot of synergies and some level of game knowledge
dio is pretty good out of the box
edgy arrow
high heat culture is attempting almost impossible feats the devs never intended and then calling yourself a useless garbage fire when you fail
shy gulch
dio is still p good on rail yea
agile gyro
it had the hammer upgrade that makes it go through enemies, had like 60% more fire rate, dealt hangover and extra range+precision
shy gulch
high heat culture is attempting almost impossible feats the devs never intended ...
yeah pretty much
agile gyro
actually i think it was epic hangover
shy gulch
I feel that
agile gyro
so it was really good
true fable
cant think of a hammer upgrade that does that
agile gyro
you could deal maximum hangover in like less than a second
shy gulch
sounds like piercing + flurry
true fable
are you talking about flash fire or piercing fire
agile gyro
are you talking about flash fire or piercing fire
piercing
shy gulch
having fun? in MY high heat channel????
agile gyro
sorry for not knowing the names lol, my game is in spanish and the best i can do is assuming what the translations are
agile gyro
sorry for not knowing the names lol, my game is in spanish and the best i can do...
_ _
true fable
i will be back in 2-3 business days
waxen relic
sorry for not knowing the names lol, my game is in spanish and the best i can do...
you can turn your game to english 
shy gulch
do like 2 more hours of 3weps and I’ll see u back here right after
agile gyro
you can turn your game to english <:squirtnya:472124054644457472>
why would i?
edgy arrow
yeah don’t worry about not knowing the names
waxen relic
why would i?
you will know what we mean then
edgy arrow
even we don’t know the names of some boons
what’s jolted actually called?
nobody knows
agile gyro
you will know what we mean then
i mean i can deduce it
waxen relic
static discharge
shy gulch
flex
edgy arrow
okay but do you ever call it that
mossy zinc
y’all aren’t playing in Greek?
My splits are in Ancient Greek. Are yours?
agile gyro
also, the dialogues are in english
shy gulch
I don’t use splits
agile gyro
voicelines i mean
mossy zinc
Checkmate, then.
shy gulch
true
agile gyro
static discharge
Descarga Electrostática, badass name
shy gulch
don’t spoil my secrets
edgy arrow
woah that looks way more badass in spanish
agile gyro
i just realized that this server doesnt have a single voice channel
waxen relic
been a long while since i played games in my mothertongue
edgy arrow
tbf it is a badass boon
agile gyro
yea
true fable
VC is a pain to moderate and this discord is for serious discussion of high heat strategy
agile gyro
once with varatha i got poseidon boost + rupture curse + dual boon with poseidon and zeus + shock curse
true fable
if you want to loiter you can find other social discords 
agile gyro
but thats not all!! !!1!
shy gulch
“serious discussion”
agile gyro
i also got the hammer upgrade that turns the special into an exploding projectile
true fable
tbf most of my time in this channel is spent interrogating people about priv status
true fable
very productive use of my time
shy gulch
most of mine is crapposting
agile gyro
basically it was a quick projectile that dealt 120+ damage plus 40 from the lightning, and inflicted both rupture and shock
edgy arrow
tbf most of my time in this channel is spent interrogating people about priv sta...
someone’s gotta do it man
important work
shy gulch
I can’t rmr the last time I was a useful presence here
agile gyro
basically it was a quick projectile that dealt 120+ damage plus 40 from the ligh...
did i name something the wrong way
shy gulch
probably never
agile gyro
😅
mossy zinc
very productive use of my time
You're helping people do +25% more damage in their runs. That's a nice thing to do.
true fable
out of curiosity
agile gyro
do you also use fated authority
what does that do? (sorry again)
true fable
rolls the room rewards
shy gulch
they said they don’t have the bottom mirror upgrades bright
edgy arrow
fated authority is the purple option for the last mirror upgrade
agile gyro
yea
agile gyro
i only have 3% of getting epic boons thats all
shy gulch
they’re pretty gamer, I recommend getting them
mossy zinc
Is sadge just dedge but on Zag Sword?
true fable
if you had to choose between rerolling door rewards or rerolling boon rewards
agile gyro
havent touched the authoritarian thingy
shy gulch
bright is a terrorist
edgy arrow
lmao we going into hypotheticals now
true fable
just hypothetically
agile gyro
they’re pretty gamer, I recommend getting them
ill save some darkness then
shy gulch
someone stop him
edgy arrow
this has gone too far
true fable
god dammit
shy gulch
bright OWNED
agile gyro
lol
edgy arrow
rekt
shy gulch
DESTROYED
agile gyro
lmao what
shy gulch
brights terrorism has come to an end
shy gulch
oh no
mossy zinc
What if you can get 8 room rerolls but only 4 boon rerolls? Which one do you pick, heretic?
edgy arrow
oh no
true fable
do you run olympian's favor or dark foresight
agile gyro
i sometimes get boons i dont like, but the room rewards are always juicy to get no matter what they are
true fable
40% rare chance or more gold laurel rooms
agile gyro
40% rare chance or more gold laurel rooms
40% rare chance
agile gyro
i do not use a single green upgrade, only purple ones lmao
true fable
olympians favor strikes again baby
shy gulch
goodbye
edgy arrow
this is just trying until you get the right answer
agile gyro
but that is because im upgrading all purple thingies atm
mossy zinc
**goodbye**
Your sould already left a long time ago. 'Tis only your body that remains.
edgy arrow
statistically, you’ll be correct eventually
shy gulch
yeah fair
edgy arrow
idk if that’s how statistics work
true fable
at least in terms of PS and OF
we dont count fated authority
i never claimed to be an expert on fated authority use
agile gyro
if im not wrong, the one that gives more epic chance, the one that gives funny boon-changing coin thing and uhhhhh one that costs 500 darkness but i cant remember which exactly
mossy zinc
You didn't tell him he could have 8 room rerolls but only 4 boon rerolls, and that you need 2 boon rerolls for the second reroll instead of just one.
Dug your own grave there.
agile gyro
well i think im gonna write a google doc with what Hephaestus and Apollo's boons and dialogue would be like
true fable
You didn't tell him he could have 8 room rerolls but only 4 boon rerolls, and th...
true enough, i need to learn this skill
edgy arrow
Jinnans if you were wondering, yes this is what we’re like all the time
agile gyro
You didn't tell him he could have 8 room rerolls but only 4 boon rerolls, and th...
i just dont need room rerolls so honestly i wouldve chosen the same
agile gyro
unless im going all tryhard in which i would ignore gemstones, keys, darkness and nectar
true fable
the room rerolls were a purple mirror upgrade
mossy zinc
The main argument that people have been using for Authority since Early Access is "but Persuasion is so expensive and you only get 4".
shy gulch
lol
agile gyro
Jinnans if you were wondering, yes this is what we’re like all the time
you mean the google doc thing? lol
oh oh wait
i think i get it
mossy zinc
Jinnans if you were wondering, yes this is what we’re like all the time
You commoners only act out like that when there's no mod around.
edgy arrow
which is all the time
agile gyro
purple upgrade gives you room rerolls and green gives you boon rerolls?
agile gyro
ohhhhhhhhh ok
edgy arrow
i think they’ve forgotten about this channel
agile gyro
im going for green, then
shy gulch
this channel is a godforsaken place of misery
shy gulch
it is indeed very active
true fable
who is acting out 
shy gulch
ok what i said was a bit harsh
but this channel does have a very distinctly different vibe from the rest of the server
true fable
edgy arrow
nah it’s true but it’s a comfy godforsaken place of misery
true fable
shy gulch
we are simply a nice tight knit community of gamers
agile gyro
yall have probably discussed the topic of a hypothetical DLC millions of times, havent you?
shy gulch
yeah
true fable
shy gulch
we have all come to terms with the fact that there is no dlc
true fable
im almost out of dabs
true fable
agile gyro
for being a godforsaken channel
this sounds beatifully hilarious out of context
true fable
one more for the road
agile gyro
"one more for the road"
kills channel
shy gulch
bright moment
mossy zinc
we are simply a nice tight knit community of gamers
Who are you calling nice?
agile gyro
i wish theseus fight changed randomly and you could fight Heracles, Odysseus, Atalanta etc
mossy zinc
You're saying m not nice?
agile gyro
it almost seems like it was intended this way
shy gulch
i am saying exactly that
agile gyro
as it says "heroes vanquished" not "theseus vanquised" or smth
edgy arrow
wouldn’t make sense for you to fight him
shy gulch
asterius is a hero
put some respect on his name
he heroically ends all my high heat runs
agile gyro
lol
edgy arrow
yeah true; it should say Hero Vanquished
shy gulch
true
edgy arrow
since asterius is a hero but theseus isn’t
agile gyro
lmao
theseus is a
i cant say it
i will get banned
theseus is a *not very nice words*
edgy arrow
bot avoidance level 9000
agile gyro
if i dont have reflect dash by the time i get to him, im sooooo dead
mossy zinc
King Theseus has more respect for the gods than most of you commoners do. He's an actual hero.
true fable
i do like when asterius says "may this defeat fill you with vengeful fury"
its quite metal
very punk rock
agile gyro
King Theseus has more respect for the gods than most of you commoners do. He's a...
STEP NO FURTHER, FIEND, i will vanquish you monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
edgy arrow
asterius is metal af
agile gyro
asterius is annoying
mossy zinc
Asterius doesn't say that to me, I never lose.
agile gyro
in spanish he's "Asterión"
edgy arrow
asterius is annoying
i can’t believe you would say this about my boy
shy gulch
mood
shy gulch
he is a pro gamer
barren plinth
he likes fight but he's respectful to his opponent :)
mossy zinc
"Meg is hot."
"I like Asterius. :)"
Well, okay then.
barren plinth
his miniboss room is the only one i actively look forward to
mossy zinc
Timing.
edgy arrow
asterius also pretty hot tho
barren plinth
implying
agile gyro
whoa what i just knew achilles and patroclus were actually in love
i thought all my life that they were just close friends
shy gulch
they’re the bestest of besties
agile gyro
lmao
mossy zinc
Achillean means men loving men for a reason lol.
barren plinth
aeschylus is super convinced that the subtext is obvious
agile gyro
Achillean means men loving men for a reason lol.
didnt know that
barren plinth
and patroclus means daddy
barren plinth
didnt know that
dont let em fool you achilles does not mean that
achilles means pain of the people
agile gyro
dont let em fool you achilles does not mean that
b r u h
barren plinth
Patroclus does mean daddy tho
mossy zinc
Sapphic means women loving women. Sappho was born on Lesbos, which might sound a little familiar.
agile gyro
were achilles and patroclus, originally, in the illiad, in love? or is it something more modern?
barren plinth
were achilles and patroclus, originally, in the illiad, in love? or is it someth...
homer isn't one guy, but it was not explicit within any known text of the illiad
but if by "more recent" you mean aeschylus then yes
agile gyro
nice
barren plinth
https://lgbta.wikia.org/wiki/Achillean https://lgbta.wikia.org/wiki/Sapphic
oh ok that's fair lmao
agile gyro
damn that makes me feel even worse for achilles in-game
barren plinth
were achilles and patroclus, originally, in the illiad, in love? or is it someth...
ok so historically the illiad is from the 6th century BCE, and all the gay achilles theories came from the 5th century BCE
most famously plato and aeschylus
agile gyro
huh nice
barren plinth
super duper convinced
agile gyro
see thats how you implement lgtb in a piece of media without making a big deal out of it
like zag's bisexuality
true fable
agile gyro
it is said several times, but he doesnt go around like "yeah im bi. gay power hell yes you have any problem?"
its perfect imo
this way it is treated as normal
and not as something weird
barren plinth
fun fact i was rewatching game of thrones the other night and realized that loras/renly is intended to be a literal parallel to achilles/patroclus
barren plinth
spoiler for anyone who hasnt watched the battle of blackwater
long axle
what did i miss? I tried a new save and died in first stage of ellysium 
agile gyro
what did i miss? I tried a new save and died in first stage of ellysium <:shaded...
not much honestly
we were discussing achilles and the "achillean" term but no much else
long axle
not much honestly
oh good. I'm here to testify that it is really hard
barren plinth
but ||after renly is assassinated, loras dons renly's flashy disco ball armor which everyone recognizes on the battlefield and brings in reinforcements which causes all their enemies to panic thinking that renly's ghost came back from the dead to lead them||
true fable
fresh file is a difficult category
barren plinth
it was a super cool moment and i didnt make the connection
mossy zinc
Let's keep it to actual Hades discussion lol.
The mods don't intervene much, but do stay on topic.
long axle
anyway....i'd say beating hydra on fresh file is not "hard"....but after that i can't imagine
agile gyro
shouldnt we move to #h1-discussion at this point
barren plinth
sure
long axle
shouldnt we move to <#520429929721233464> at this point
I dunno...none of these things would make sense to people trying to just beat 1.0
celest grail
#h1-discussion is just general hades stuff
#h1-for-new-players is for people trying to get their first clear
agile gyro
<#725021347968712724> is for people trying to get their first clear
...and?
oh
nevermind
celest grail
long axle
honestly we'd like to clear any questions on other channels
agile gyro
unrelated but whats the region yall hate the most?
barren plinth
elysium hands down
celest grail
i hate asphodel the most probably
barren plinth
why's that?
agile gyro
elysium is not that hard for me
long axle
styx can be hard but it makes sense
fickle heron
I hate asphodel the most. Enemies run away all the time and it feels like hunting them down
celest grail
Because im forever scarred of the heightened security lava
agile gyro
why's that?
big rats and satyrs
celest grail
And the bombers jumping around is annoying
agile gyro
lol ye
celest grail
And the rooms are so huge
barren plinth
I hate asphodel the most. Enemies run away all the time and it feels like huntin...
i hate when im using a melee weapon and there's a witch 5 miles off the edge of the screen throwing grapes at me
honest kernel
elyisum prob most hated area yeah, today i got a torture room with speeder+savior shield guys
celest grail
Wavemakers and purple bombers just dance around forever
agile gyro
usually i dont have that much trouble with elysium anymore
btw i think elysium sounds better in spanish ngl
celest grail
elyisum prob most hated area yeah, today i got a torture room with speeder+savio...
I got those guys on hestia once
fickle heron
more annoying on melee weapons like sword and fists, with spear and shield it feels more easy
agile gyro
It's "El Elíseo"
honest kernel
ggs :(
mossy zinc
I like Elysium a lot.
long axle
I like Elysium a lot.
ok satan
mossy zinc
It's annoying for speedrunning because there's so much variance.
celest grail
From a design and gameplay perspective, elysium is amazing
fickle heron
i hate when im using a melee weapon and there's a witch 5 miles off the edge of ...
I can relate 
celest grail
But from a speedrun perspective, yeah^^^
agile gyro
ugh the chariots
true fable
elysium is a nice biome where you die sometimes
barren plinth
you ever clear a room entirely submerged in lava and lose a DD just for running back to get the reward
true fable
no
agile gyro
ive gotten to a point where i only die by the hand of hades or, if i have really bad luck, in styx
barren plinth
i have, like twice
agile gyro
or by the hand of theseus
true fable
then turn up the heat
barren plinth
because i dont know how to get witches back on land lmao
mossy zinc
Don't call me Satan, that's my least favorite aspect. Very rude.
true fable
celest grail
you ever clear a room entirely submerged in lava and lose a DD just for running ...
Nope, i lose the dd to bonerakers
true fable
lucifer baby
vital grove
were achilles and patroclus, originally, in the illiad, in love? or is it someth...
Platonic love, maybe.
true fable
my favorite rail
long axle
Don't call me Satan, that's my least favorite aspect. Very rude.
it all makes sense now
mossy zinc
because i dont know how to get witches back on land lmao
Run away from them lol.
barren plinth
they dont chase tho
true fable
they do
barren plinth
maybe im too impatient
true fable
they only attack when theyre a set range away
celest grail
if they're off screen they'll chase you iirc
agile gyro
how do you call the passive objects you equip between regions (like the Cosmic Egg)????
barren plinth
unlucky
celest grail
or if their projectiles dont reach
true fable
interbiomw
celest grail
how do you call the passive objects you equip between regions (like the Cosmic E...
Keepsake
gaunt fiber
I fight them in the magma anyway, death or glory
barren plinth
I fight them in the magma anyway, death or glory
my people
agile gyro
strange name
true fable
mostly death for you then astaos?
gaunt fiber
Yes
true fable
otherwise id imagine wed see some glory
gaunt fiber
Hey
celest grail
doesn't guan yu have like range
gaunt fiber
That hurts
agile gyro
honestly skelly's keepsake is amazing
barren plinth
my only deaths are to randos zooming around in elysium and hades himself
gaunt fiber
doesn't guan yu have like range
Playing gilga atm
true fable
pain makes you stronger astaos
barren plinth
once in a while i get stabbed in the back by theseus
gaunt fiber
I guess...
celest grail
trying to get 50 with all the hidden aspects?
vital grove
Astaos abandoned the pole arm?
agile gyro
gilganesh, satan, are hidden aspects just from other mythologies
gaunt fiber
Well it's not intentional. My goal was all weaps at 50 but I chose the aspects, did not pick the best ones
barren plinth
once you gilga you can't go back
agile gyro
gilganesh, satan, are hidden aspects just from other mythologies
this is a question btw
celest grail
yes
agile gyro
bruh nice
gaunt fiber
Astaos abandoned the pole arm?
Doing all weaps 50/ hotw, 50 heat GY but it's ME then I'll grind
celest grail
The hidden aspects are all from other mythologies
agile gyro
thats awesome
barren plinth
some of them are real people some of them are gods
agile gyro
let me guess surtur aspect? ymir? odin? maybe thor?
gaunt fiber
Phoenix no :(
barren plinth
no
celest grail
nope
true fable
Astaos not playing Guan Yu
a terrible day for high heat strategies
agile gyro
dang
true fable
also astaos
long axle
Astaos not playing Guan Yu
why is anyone playing guan yu?
agile gyro
osiris aspect? isis? ra? horus? set?
celest grail
oh no
true fable
i came across the weirdest charged skewer build
celest grail
Cagnus
honest kernel
sad day for high heat
true fable
or glitch rather
honest kernel
gy is good
barren plinth
guan yu aspect makes me angry
true fable
the charge time was like twice as long
celest grail
@agile gyro idk half the stuff you said but i think no
long axle
ya i hate guan yu
true fable
have you ever had something like that?
barren plinth
i lose more hp than i get when i spin
gaunt fiber
also astaos
Yes
celest grail
Astaos writing an essay rn
vital grove
Guan Yu is the ultimate weapon if you like not having max hp
vital grove
And also hits hard
true fable
extremely annoying bug
barren plinth
Guan Yu is the ultimate weapon if you like not having max hp
im not good enough at the game to play with 15 hp
true fable
died to dad on weapon 6 of a streak
mossy zinc
What do you mean? You can have max HP with Guan Yu easily.
celest grail
Its 50 hp at max level
long axle
@vital grove can you hit bosses with it?
celest grail
With thick skin and lvl 5 guan yu
mossy zinc
It's the other aspects that have a hard time getting max HP.
halcyon flame
i hate asphodel the most probably
all 4 regions suck. big brain
celest grail
true
vital grove
Oh I meant more than 50
gaunt fiber
Imagine meeting a bug with GY after playing it like 20 times
celest grail
Game bad, Greece region good
gaunt fiber
And me never in 1400 attempts
gaunt fiber
never sir
agile gyro
<@632276682518036497> idk half the stuff you said but i think no
norse and egyptian mythological beings
true fable
very weird
gaunt fiber
what are the conditions?
celest grail
there is a norse mythology aspect
vital grove
I think one of them is 'don't be astaos'
long axle
all the boss frames are dead -_-
true fable
hmmm this charged skewer is taking forever
barren plinth
teeechnically beowulf is old english
true fable
and cgull was like "yeah it kind of is"
barren plinth
at least the story is old english
true fable
and then i died
gaunt fiber
Interesting
vital grove
Beowulf was very much a Norse hero tho
long axle
ya but you had a boss frame.....i remember it
agile gyro
i looked it up and hidden aspects arent named after foreign gods :sadge:
gaunt fiber
That's a yikes mr bridge
mossy zinc
@true fable did you have Swift Flourish? Swift Flourish used to be bugged and actually slow down your Special, they fixed it supposedly. Maybe there's some weird interaction with Charged Skewer that still exists or that's new.
barren plinth
Beowulf was very much a Norse hero tho
the story is old english, and only has its poetic elements in old english, but it's set in old scandinavia
true fable
that could be it
gaunt fiber
but you could also stop charging your special
vital grove
Foreign in what way?
true fable
i forgot to f10 but i'll do that next time
it just did no damage to dad otherwise astaos
oh well
mossy zinc
Might be only at a certain rarity that it bugs out.
true fable
cest la vie
agile gyro
Foreign in what way?
egyptian, norse, japanese or chinese gods for example
true fable
as the french say
gaunt fiber
Yep
barren plinth
egyptian, norse, japanese or chinese gods for example
there's a chinese one
agile gyro
there's a chinese one
is guan yu a god tho?
vital grove
What about ancient Babylonian?
barren plinth
as much a god as achilles is
celest grail
egyptian, norse, japanese or chinese gods for example
Yeah they're based on foreign heroes
gaunt fiber
Yes Guan Yu was deified
agile gyro
Yeah they're based on foreign heroes
ye thats what i meant, thought they were gods not heroes
celest grail
So idk
vital grove
Guan Yu was a general during the Han period who was later deified yeah
agile gyro
And lucifer was an angel
i mean he was an angel not a god
celest grail
two of them are """gods"""
barren plinth
if you look at mythology, there isn't really a difference between gods and heroes
long axle
Foreign in what way?
how about you reach the community way in advance?
agile gyro
if you look at mythology, there isn't really a difference between gods and heroe...
i disagree
a lot of times gods are a race
barren plinth
i disagree
i disagree back with my folklore degree
vital grove
how about you reach the community way in advance?
Sorry what?
agile gyro
i disagree back with my folklore degree
bruh
celest grail
i dont know much about chinese culture, what god-based weapon could they make on it?
vital grove
The seven star sword
long axle
Sorry what?
you don't seem to have th community's pulse in advance
celest grail
Sun wukong was a god? I thought he was just an immortal hero
vital grove
you don't seem to have th community's pulse in advance
What are you talking about and are you on drugs?
agile gyro
also the word is probably staff not batton is it
celest grail
nvm i replied to the wrong thing
barren plinth
i decided to move to general since we're getting in the way of channel discussion
celest grail
also circling back to the god-based aspects, rama is the bow of a god
i mean we're not
We're discussing hades related stuff
what the hidden aspects could've been
mossy zinc
Which isn't high heat strategies. Move it to #h1-story-discussion or #h1-discussion, yeah.
gaunt fiber
chooo chooo
vital grove
Guan Yu is viable for 50 heat. Just ask my boy Astaos here, the old Guan Yu expert who switched to SOMETHING ELSE NOW
vital grove
😭
mossy zinc
I mean he's playing Gilgamesh.
gaunt fiber
I decided my Malphon 50 would be Gilgamesh
gaunt fiber
because the sound effect is cool
vital grove
Gilga is the nuts with Merciful End and the worst weapon in the game without it, barring maybe Zag sword
mossy zinc
That's dash-only 50.
gaunt fiber
It's no longer dash only