queen beams?
#h1-high-heat-strategies
waxen relic
No Damage = No Beams = No Name
waxen relic
I don't see them in the dps chart though
honest kernel
my friend keeps yapping all the time that hades is bad and overrated but he can't deny that I'm having such a good time w it ;p
halcyon flame
honest kernel
and then I'm trying to explain "theres so much hype aroubd hades because the chars are all hot and pretty" and he'd be like "they all suck except aphro"
crazy guy for sure
hearty onyx
Of course it's the one naked person
honest kernel
of course 
shy plinth
Imagine not thinking that Artie is the best
gaunt fiber
honest kernel
what aspects can I justify putting a dem core on? I wanna play her but I feel like its hard to justify picking her over others
I already did dem rail btw
mossy zinc
I'd say Demeter Aspect if that wasn't a lie. 
honest kernel
I feel like shield+pulverizing blow might work but then I'd have to actually get that hammer
waxen relic
Achilles Beams are actually quite legit
gaunt fiber
You can do a Guan Yu spin build with demeter on the attack
will be better with killing freeze
honest kernel
thanks for the suggestions 👌
celest grail
demeter is also good on chiron special
halcyon flame
is dc2 free on thunder flourish zeus?
it's basically one hit of damage, should be good
gaunt fiber
It's more than manageable yeah
halcyon flame
haelian is great
but this image makes me feel pain
this is only day 2 of attempting to beat 32 heat with hera
daring elk
i wonder how much jury summons slows down my runs
daring elk
js is fun tho
solar maple
I mean if you aren't trying to speedrun time loss isn't a big deal
mossy zinc
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624635342116618243/827102968028463104/unk...
Congratulations! 💕
honest kernel
thanks 👍
honest kernel
after barely scraping by em4 I think I'll stick to em3 until I get to mid 20s
gaunt fiber
you can clear 50 without EM4 dw :)
honest kernel
haha true
bright mango
Yeah em4 is a nono
honest kernel
the last ones I'm gonna turn on are approval process and routine inspection
cos like
no
bright mango
Yeah those suck
honest kernel
kinda ruins the game for me
bright mango
Yeah they do
honest kernel
I like the customisability and that just takes it away
bright mango
You can take em4 at 50 and you don’t have to take those
honest kernel
damn ok sounds good
yeah em4 was a brute
hades specifically
I actually nohit the furies which was cool
my first boss nohit in hades
gaunt fiber
the last ones I'm gonna turn on are approval process and routine inspection
You don't have to until 40+ yeah
honest kernel
one day I will beat 32 heat >:)
bright mango
You will!
gaunt fiber
If you want to clear 32 I'd advise to try specific pacts instead of random heats
Like TD3 BP2, FO2
Also LC4 and Stubborn defiance
honest kernel
I'm not going straight for 32 btw, doing them in order
gaunt fiber
yeah
But if you want a 16 clear or even below
You could try TD3 FO2 only, that kind of things
honest kernel
gotcha
gaunt fiber
(I know it's not 16 heat total but you get the idea)
spice lava
"Do the math yourself" - Astaos
honest kernel
just gotta think quickly
honest kernel
I tried fo2 and got throughly owned
honest kernel
I'm doing fo1 rn tho
honest kernel
aight gotcha
spice lava
👀 💦
honest kernel
best get used to it ay
eager vortex
gaem hard
hearty onyx
Only because I made it hard
The fact that Guan Yu got me to Elysium should be a good sign though
bright mango
Guan Yu is really good at 40 imo
hearty onyx
I just have to learn how to dodge those archers better
And maybe learn how to use the spin better
bright mango
use the terrain to your advantage
When you have like 5 markers on you, just hide
No shame
hearty onyx
Noted
spice lava
Yeah archers are dangerous even for ranged weapons
hearty onyx
I keep thinking, "No way they're going to hit me when I'm this far," then I take 60 damage to the face
spice lava
You can be very agressive on specific situations like having athena dash or using a shield but most of the time you start to learn the safe spots with archers
unique zephyr
Guan Yu is really good at 40 imo
What makes GY so good at 32 and 40? It seems like a fun weapon but I wasn’t sure if GY is actually good or a meme
unique zephyr
I do love GY’s special
When newer people ask about GY I have to tell them to basically healing spin less and special more
And I’m not even good at GY
I had to be told healing spin was a trap too when I tried GY prophecy
unique zephyr
That’s mainly when I spin too the few times I tried GY
With maxed LC is the healing from spin way nicer
I never tried GY at any higher than 0 heat lol
hearty onyx
I think what I really need to do is to learn FO2 in Elysium
My 32 heat Guan yu was only on FO1
And the only other times I've taken FO2 were on the shield
bronze viper
Yeah, FO2 Elysium+ is quite a bit harder on average. BP2 Elysium rooms with FO2 are run enders no matter how good you get
You just slowly learn to cope and deal lol
hearty onyx
I'll get it someday, but probably not today
honest kernel
mashy mashy attack
time to upload all my runs at once that I was too lazy to get to till now
torn vapor
Like mashed potatoes 🥔
honest kernel
the mashed potatoes were my enemies >:)
torn vapor
Good job, little godling 
bright mango
hehe flurry jab go brrr
honest kernel
thanks
gaunt fiber
So today we got an interest bug
I went for some fishing while standing in the magma
and then my UI disappeared for the next runs :D
gaunt fiber
No hp/boon menu was not working, timer was still here though
true fable
well
edgy arrow
i’ve never even heard of that happening before
lucid coyote
There used to be a bug where opening boon menu during a certain frame of the room transition would break your UI, I wonder if it did something similar 
honest kernel
lol
gaunt fiber
oh and shop was bugged too
true fable
lol
at least you didnt get lapis' bug
where it was the witch tile
but with charon shop music
and a purchasable boon
gaunt fiber
that's super cool
mossy zinc
I got a bug once where I got hit and then died.
bright mango
mossy zinc
Very rude bug.
edgy arrow
omg i hate that bug
mossy zinc
You get it, too? Ugh, I hate it.
gaunt fiber
Yeah but at least it did not prevent you from getting a fish you were determined to catch
gaunt fiber
why would you fish in the magma sigh
prolly yeah but I don't plan to hone these specific skills
bronze viper
Zag's feet are always on fire why is he even getting hurt.
edgy arrow
he’s only fireproof but not magma proof
true fable
you did it deliberately
mossy zinc
Zag's feet are always on fire why is he even getting hurt.
Zag tells you why, you know.
true fable
astaos you are far more at fault
mossy zinc
He's only flame-resistant—not flame-proof.
edgy arrow
yeah
i gotta say, i appreciate the fact that you can walk on magma in hades
too many games are like “magma/lava = water but hot”
like no
turns out molten rock is dense, who’d have thought
mossy zinc
Hades devs would have thought.
gaunt fiber
astaos you are far more at fault
as always
mossy zinc
Duh.
gaunt fiber
I just wonder -in the middle of a 50 heat run- if you could fish in such conditions
You can't.
gaunt fiber
I mean feel free to test it more :)
edgy arrow
you should try multiple times, with control groups and such
gaunt fiber
sure mate
edgy arrow
nah changing the player would, uh, mess with the experiment
gaunt fiber
Oh by the way
edgy arrow
or something
gaunt fiber
"Elite Exalted will be disarmed as Elite Disarmed Souls, giving the soul armor. If it rearms with armor, it rearms as an Elite Exalted of the weapon's type. If it only re-arms with health and no armor, it will rearm as a normal Exalted. "
Found this on the wiki
Tested it on Beo 50 :)
It's wrong
gaunt fiber
I don't know
bronze viper
It makes sense. Maybe someone just got a false positive. How does it actually work? I assume the soul remembers it's type
mossy zinc
Maybe Astaos is wrong.
edgy arrow
might be a BP thing as well
true fable
im p sure it depends on the weapon they respawn on
edgy arrow
maybe it only works on BP0 or something
gaunt fiber
Yeah might be a BP
true fable
and elites will always respawn into elites
gaunt fiber
Maybe Astaos is wrong.
tested it multiple times with different enemies though
mossy zinc
I don't see none of that.
bright mango
I'm a witness
icy acorn
The Witness? as in the puzzle game?
icy acorn
it's really fun if you like puzzle games but that' soff topic
bright mango
I like puzzles
unique zephyr
So Beo is the best weapon for EM4, right?
I want to start practicing the fight more for high heat (trying Beo 32 with EM4 on)
bright mango
yeah beo is heehee dad can't hit you bcs you have big plate
You can just sit back and block everything
unique zephyr
Accidentally left TD3 on, oh well time to go fast and pray for 2 sack
Chaos did give me an extra cast stone which is nice on Beo and I got some free rooms in Tart
gaunt fiber
So Beo is the best weapon for EM4, right?
Yeah for sure
bronze viper
I would say it's whatever non-Zag shield you find most comfortable. Shield op
edgy arrow
bare in mind that beo EM4 practice won’t really help you get better at the fight with other weapons
i mean, it’ll help a bit
but like, things that can’t block play that fight differently lol
bronze viper
Yeah. I feel that. I don't think Beo EM4 helped me learn anything but Zeus EM4 made the fight at least accessible on other non-shields I play a lot
edgy arrow
playing beo only really helps you get better at beo tbh
playing other stuff makes me a better beo player, but playing beo doesn’t make me better at other stuff
pretty unfair when you think about it
true fable
its just such a janky weapon
edgy arrow
lol true
bright mango
bare in mind that beo EM4 practice won’t really help you get better at the fight...
^
I reccomend doing something like fists or sword to get a better understanding of the fight
Just do HL0 so you can actually practice it
and not die in the first 5 seconds
bright mango
👀
quartz mantle
i just realised i think i’ve never beaten EM4 with non beo
Same here brother
edgy arrow
i blame the meta; everyone agrees you don’t need to turn it on until ridiculous heats so i just don’t
unique zephyr
that's the impression I got as well
edgy arrow
like, you could do all aspects 50 without touching EM4
unique zephyr
that and I wanted to actually clear 32 lol
quartz mantle
Yea I haven't really touched it at all
unique zephyr
Back then and still kind of now the concentration and length of EM4 required wasn't great for my health
also why I don't like time increasing pacts much
bright mango
The fight is legitimately fun
edgy arrow
yeah it is
vital grove
So what do you guys think about that flood Flare nerf they're testing?
bright mango
wait what
edgy arrow
on beo at least 😛
unique zephyr
What's the nerf?
vital grove
Might feel that damage missing
quartz mantle
It's fun until I get sneak while I'm playing Rama
bright mango
I'm dio beo gang so I don't really care
edgy arrow
not like i get good times anyway
vital grove
Base damage down by like 20
vital grove
I guess because it's April 1st
wintry berry
Wait, there's an update ?
edgy arrow
oof
bright mango
omg
solemn pulsar
phoenix memein
quartz mantle
Oh
bright mango
Right
quartz mantle
🔫
edgy arrow
i was like, 40 base damage at common pls no
gaunt fiber
Lmao did you really believe that
wintry berry
Even if it's 1st April, I heard of some update soon
bright mango
uh oh
gaunt fiber
I guess if it was a Guan Yu thing I'd take the bait to be fair
solar maple
my first em4 clear was my first 10 heat on my 1.0 save with spear
edgy arrow
i mean, there was the change to beo’s cast loading in the test branch recently
vital grove
Apparently we'll be switching out Guan Yu for Aspect of Lu Bu
edgy arrow
so it’s kinda plausible
edgy arrow
he’s not answering so he probably quit the server due to being convinced GY was deleted
vital grove
I think he just dropped his phone from shock
bright mango
GuAn yU is gOnE
unique zephyr
Did an Erebus gate and got hit RIGHT before I finished it, feels bad
gaunt fiber
Did I get ya Astaos
gaunt fiber
he’s not answering so he probably quit the server due to being convinced GY was ...
That would be the quickest uninstall of my life
vital grove
Dragon Rush now deals 500% damage. You can no longer block.
vital grove
Would be a fun hammer
edgy arrow
actually yeah
solar maple
wow looking at the old runs on my 1.0 save is so funny
edgy arrow
i’m glad that hammer isn’t in the game, but it’d be fun
solar maple
I got 32 heat first try then my next 13 runs were 32 heat failures lmao
bright mango
prolly get good at the game or something
vital grove
Yeah you'd roll on ap2 and be like err
edgy arrow
yo pseudo have you played much non beo EM4
edgy arrow
i just realised i’ve done basically none lol
kinda interested to know whether beo EM4 practice helps with other weapons at all
solar maple
yeah same here
I think it does teach you the attack patterns
just not how to dodge them
vital grove
You can't abuse that rush cubby
edgy arrow
sadge
solar maple
considering I usually die with charged shot beo that does not bode well for other weps
solar maple
I tried but hermes decided to show up
luckilly got my first ever charged shot win that run lol
edgy arrow
yeah aphro cast solid
solar maple
tbh aphro cast is probably the best cast for em4
edgy arrow
it was used a lot before everyone switched to flood flare
solar maple
weak + higher base damage + higher chance of having athena because you don't need arty
edgy arrow
outside of ridiculous dio beo highroll stuff that’s probably true
solar maple
oh yeah 3 cast dio beo would be better haha
bright mango
Doing em4 with fists helped me learn the fight
edgy arrow
no one’s getting that at high heat tho lol
bright mango
Beo you can just block everything and boom
I don't think it makes you practice the fight too much
edgy arrow
EM4 with fists sounds like the stuff of nightmares
i’d be kind of interested to give it a shot but like, what would be the point
might as well get to 50 with fists first
bright mango
nah 50 bad
em4 fists with no HL isn't that bad
Just face tank everything and go brrr
edgy arrow
EM4 also bad, but i get more street cred and a better looking victory screen from 50
yes that’s right i’m just in it for the nice victory screen
someday i want 6x50
okay but without HL5 is it really EM4
bright mango
6x50 sounds like a dream
edgy arrow
oh nice
mossy zinc
Apparently we'll be switching out Guan Yu for Aspect of Lu Bu
Cool!
edgy arrow
i imagine the number of people who’ve done 51 drops off sharply from those who’ve done 50
mossy zinc
I've done neither 50 nor 51.
edgy arrow
you’re in the >50 elite crowd now
mossy zinc
I've done 52.
solar maple
I want 6x50 too
edgy arrow
CP bad
bright mango
So the extra JS wasn't bad
solar maple
but I'll settle for 6x50 seeded
mossy zinc
Just 6x50 with Hestia or Beowulf.
solar maple
I've never cleared 51 or 53 heat lol
edgy arrow
yeah i may have to settle for seeded as well, but i’m hoping not atm
edgy arrow
the 45s i’ve got have had insane builds which has me worried
since it’ll be hard to get those build at 50
solar maple
I mean I could probably get unseeded nem 50 eventually
but my chokes kind of demoralized me
edgy arrow
my eris 45 featured splitting bolt in the tart end shop lol
i can do eris 50 no probs with that
solar maple
so I'm keeping my seeded 50 pos sword for now haha
I think I'll get rama eventually as well
spear seems possible
edgy arrow
unseeded nem 50 sounds painful lol
solar maple
fists just seem brutal to me though
don't really see myself getting fist 50 anytime soon
edgy arrow
seeded spear sounds pretty straightforward; just get flurry jab
idk what unseeded spear strats are
solar maple
yeah RI0 flurry start achilles haha
edgy arrow
presumably “hope you get flurry jab and reset if you don’t”
solar maple
that's why tail plays hades spear I guess
edgy arrow
why, to prove he’s good at the game?
guess that works, tho i’m not sure he needed to prove that
or you mean like, hades is better if you don’t have flurry?
i don’t know spears very well lol
bright mango
i legitimately think that for 50 fists, gilga with a dash build is the best strat
true fable
melee pain
edgy arrow
yeh but you’re good at the game bright
bright mango
^
edgy arrow
mmm pretty sure talos with tempest flourish is easier than both those
solar maple
YOYO
true fable
yoyoyoyoyo
shy plinth
edgy arrow
actually is there a 50 heat yo-yo build
if there isn’t, that seems like a worthy cause to devote my life to
shy plinth
What would the pact even look like
edgy arrow
i mean, it’s 50
shy plinth
Are you gonna AP it and end up with tempest strike?
edgy arrow
not like i can mix things around to make my bad life choices easier lol
unique zephyr
and do some 32 with EM4, too
edgy arrow
(sword icky)
so true
shy plinth
edgy arrow
actually i think poseidon is lowkey becoming my second favourite aspect
bright mango
ooh that sounds fun
edgy arrow
so i may need to stop hating on swords
solar maple
poseidon is super fun
edgy arrow
but i don’t really consider poseidon to be a real sword
true fable
its a sword until bosses
my poseidon 45 was kind of filthy
got like
epic RD epic cast
edgy arrow
what cast did you use?
true fable
phalanx shot
edgy arrow
lol
but yeah i’m thoroughly sold on phalanx shot now
idk why i just ignored it before
unique zephyr
I did Athena cast for my 32 Poseidon sword clear
I didn’t get lightning phalanx that run but not for lack of trying
edgy arrow
it’s only really required for speedruns
for heat it’s obviously still really nice but the damage is good without it
and simply being able to start athena is huge for heat
bright mango
yeah easy access to DD's
ashen garnet
mmm pretty sure talos with tempest flourish is easier than both those
Wondering if it's an April fool's joke or not
lofty fulcrum
what is the best chiron setup?
dionysus and aphro?
sorry, artemis special, aphro attack?
unique zephyr
My 6 x 32 victory screen was removed from the Hades subreddit in Reddit because of the “no firsts” rule. Even though this is literally about me getting 32 heat 6 times
mossy zinc
Well, it was your first 6x32. 
icy acorn
it was your first time posting something like that in the subreddit, too
mossy zinc
honest kernel
ngl I dont use reddit but I keep hearing people complaining that their posts are getting nuked from it
maybe its just a bad site and stick to the leaderboards here
mossy zinc
Bould would like to comment on this, too. Take it away, Bouldy!
“....” 
Thanks, Bouldy!
lofty fulcrum
chaos gate, coin erebus, or skull poseidon? hate when I have all these choices 🙂
honest kernel
all depends on what you want and where you are
mossy zinc
Do you have Tidal Dash?
lofty fulcrum
doing the heartrend chiron run
unique zephyr
it was your first time posting something like that in the subreddit, too <:dusa:...
Nah I posted my first 40 heat clear before (which wasn’t taken down)
bronze viper
If you need time, Chaos gate. If you need money to buy something, Obols, if you want Tidal Dash, Poseidon
icy acorn
Thanks, Bouldy!
best boy <3
lofty fulcrum
i dont have tidal dash yet
unique zephyr
My 32 heat mirrorless was though
mossy zinc
Then Poseidon.
lofty fulcrum
do you always take tidal dash, even over athena?
honest kernel
nah
bronze viper
No, not always
For Chiron you also really want Poseidon's Aid since you build call charge so quickly
lofty fulcrum
I'm still pretty new, but my experience with calls has always been zeus aphro or athena, athena
always found other ones kind of underwhelming
poseidons is really good?
lofty fulcrum
game is funny, 110 runs in and i still consider myself relatively new. That says a lot about the replayability
bronze viper
Opinions will slightly vary, but for me, it's vaguely ~
Dio or Zeus with Tier 2s
Poseidon (particularly with Rip Current)
Athena
Demeter
Aphro
Artemis
Ares
honest kernel
I agree
lofty fulcrum
okay well i'll start experimenting with the top 3 then
bronze viper
Some builds want safety, so Poseidon/Athena/Aphro go up, some builds want damage, so Demeter goes up. Poseidon's Call actually does everything so it's always always great lmao
lofty fulcrum
i found demeters underwhelming as well, just not much damage
bronze viper
It is underwhelming
honest kernel
dio is the best in raw dmg iirc but zeus t2 boons go hard
bright mango
I don't think dio call has good tier two's, but its just very good by itself
bronze viper
It's very positionally dependent, takes a while to kick in, and does moderate damage. Also kind of irritating that you can't build call charge while it's happening
I meant Zeus with tier 2s
Or Dio
Zeus without T2s I'd put third above Athena
bright mango
Yeah zeus T2's are extremely good
lofty fulcrum
love zeus but feel like i have to go heavy heavy zeus to make the build
honest kernel
not so much tbh
lofty fulcrum
if i don't get lucky on boons its lackluster yea
bronze viper
That's about right honestly. Though Zeus' Aid's base damage is great
honest kernel
its still amazing base yeah ^
bright mango
Poseidon+Rip current is disgusting
honest kernel
and it means you keep seeing zeus who himself has call support boons
bronze viper
Poseidon with poms + Rip Current is the best call, but that's a lot of variance
Common level 1 Dio call is already basically a perfect boon
#notbiased
bright mango
Dio call is great
lofty fulcrum
went poseidon skull and rerolled boons twice, still no dash/call lmao
ive had some bad luck past 3 runs
honest kernel
honest kernel
poseidon has a bunch of t1 he likes to shove in your face, unfortunatley
bronze viper
It's more worth it to just take Tidal Dash or even Flood Shot just to get Poseidon in your pool
honest kernel
"Ah yes nephew why don't you take ocean's bounty?"
bright mango
Like poseidon all we care about is your dash or call
bronze viper
It's relatively inconsistent to get calls by forcing the rolls
bright mango
Don’t give us other crap
bronze viper
Until you fill your core slots
lofty fulcrum
took his rare oceans bounty, not bad grabbing that early tartarus
honest kernel
its pretty worthless unless you wanna grind
unique zephyr
game is funny, 110 runs in and i still consider myself relatively new. That says...
I’m over 300 runs in (some are resets but not many) and I still feel like I have so much to learn
lofty fulcrum
i could have taken his special for chiron...but wanted to wait for arty
bronze viper
His special, especially with rarity, is actually a ton of special damage
Very unlike his attack lol
lofty fulcrum
have the problem of having tunnel vision
wanting a specific build, and passing up on other solid opportunities
will fix that with more experience
bronze viper
Yeah. As you mentioned, 100 runs is still a baby. So much game left to play 🙂
lofty fulcrum
my stupidity was rewarded with epic poseidon call in the shop
honest kernel
nice
true fable
LOL
bronze viper
Boss isn't in today. Strimming Hestia 53 until I get it/get bored
gaunt fiber
Pog
lusty mirage
ah the "make it as far as you can at max heat" challenge in #h1-builds-and-combat
i think that was my idea
solemn pulsar
this is how 63 gets cleared
bright mango
Okay I’m doing zeus shield with this
Just hide behind my shield and let the spinny thing do the work
HAHAHA MADE IT TO CHAMBER 3 BEFORE STEPPING ON AN ALREADY EXPLODING BOMB
solemn pulsar
lemme just run baj's route real quick :3
mossy zinc
i think that was my idea
That idea's been floating around since Early Access. I didn't think of any particular suggestion when I made it.
bright mango
Traps are public enemy # 1
mossy zinc
Though it's certainly possible that your suggestion influenced it.
lusty mirage
k
solemn pulsar
now fight charon
mossy zinc
A new record!
true fable
yall ready for some TOOTH gaming
bright mango
Oh god I’ve died to a trap 3 runs in a row
This time a wringer stunned me on an exploding bomb
I’m going zeus shield + shackle
mossy zinc
solar maple
hm what weapon should I use
gaunt fiber
Nemesis
solar maple
or I could just do beo lol
bright mango
Okay linkers should be banned
gaunt fiber
unfortunately it has DC2
Except if I go on hell mode and do the 63 heat challenge with DC1
mossy zinc
I did not lol. But it's obviously allowed now. The rules are what they are.
gaunt fiber
Might be able to beat the furies on a skewer run
solar maple
ok first attempt with beo died in c11
mossy zinc
You can still be the first to submit an attempt.
mossy zinc
RidiculousHat will set it up later to replace. Right now it will add multiple, but don't worry about that.
solar maple
I want to at least get to aspho
I'll try a zeus shield run this time
I'm doing 64 heat
solemn pulsar
died to timer on meg sadge
mossy zinc
Nice!
solemn pulsar
tooth too slow
gaunt fiber
Just get lucky
mossy zinc
Have you tried not just standing there when a bomb is about to explode? 
bright mango
gaunt fiber
do your shackle I'll get lucky
true fable
lol
solar maple
gaunt fiber
you have a lot to learn pseudo
mossy zinc
That's a good strategy for a Guan Yu player. He can reset faster than you can.
gaunt fiber
The illusion of me being good is nothing but luck
solemn pulsar
@mossy zinc my link i submitted is broken and tries to make you download, can you replace it with
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/790729912163368991/827277332649345111/unknown.png?width=1201&height=676
gaunt fiber
I can reset 3 times before you even blink
mossy zinc
<@!311477984886521856> my link i submitted is broken and tries to make you down...
Done.
solemn pulsar
thanks, sorry for the mixup. should have tested the link
mossy zinc
No problem.
bright mango
Mf spike traps
mossy zinc
You can evade those by not stepping on them.
icy acorn
@mossy zinc change your nickname to "local hypnos"
solar maple
got to chamber 9 with nemesis
gaunt fiber
I'm proud
solar maple
I beat an armored witch c8 so I'm pretty happy LMAO
I'll try it again with tooth instead of shackle
mossy zinc
<@!311477984886521856> change your nickname to "local hypnos"
My very first message in this server:
Red Man — 04/07/2020
ok but for real how do you kill Hydra with bow
I am cryingNyaanyaa Mewmew — 04/07/2020
Shoot the head.
icy acorn
perfect
gaunt fiber
You have to shoot heads though
bright mango
Okie chiron is bad for this
icy acorn
..i can't even tell if that's sarcasm or not-
gaunt fiber
I'd remember if it was an aspect
icy acorn
bow aspect-
special seeks last enemy hit with attack-
i may be the one who's braindead i'm not feeling well so excuse me if i'm being dumb
gaunt fiber
HMm
icy acorn
hmm
bright mango
LOL spike trap every single time
mossy zinc
He knows what Chiron Aspect is.
gaunt fiber
I know Zag bow
hoary pasture
Its sarcasm lol
mossy zinc
He's just being evil.
gaunt fiber
I know Hera and Rama
bright mango
I keep bull rushing onto them
icy acorn
what's the furthest chamber reached yet
gaunt fiber
I don't think Chiron exists otherwise I would have cleared 50 with it
mossy zinc
@solemn pulsar you could have posted a screenshot of chamber 14, by the way. Rules are furthest chamber you reach, not furthest chamber you clear.
mossy zinc
what's the furthest chamber reached yet
13 is on the board.
solemn pulsar
Oh oops
icy acorn
neat
gaunt fiber
One dash Nemesis must be pretty good
mossy zinc
At how few dashes does Flurry Slash overtake Double Edge.
solar maple
Oh cgull does know about did a summon tech
shy gulch
0 dashes
solar maple
Best summon for this mode
Yeah 0
Dedge is way better with 1 dash
Best hammer still
solar maple
Oh true
gaunt fiber
DC killer pog
solar maple
But yeah dusa summon is best
icy acorn
okay nvm no challenge for me lol
solar maple
It carried my nem sword bombers fight
mossy zinc
What about 0.6 dashes?
gaunt fiber
what about mort
true fable
you need the constant dmg uptime
solar maple
dusa is really good in normal rooms
solar maple
there is a reason I used it in call%
true fable
dusa or skelly imo
gaunt fiber
exactly
solar maple
instantly kill a beo run
gaunt fiber
yeah but style points
solar maple
might try rama next
or hestia
hestia could be good actually
probably the best chance vs furies
gaunt fiber
yeah
solar maple
other than zeus shield
gaunt fiber
Heristia
solar maple
which is the best aspect for this I'm pretty sure
true fable
maybe eris
gaunt fiber
eris will be reset heavy
true fable
really just need drunken strike
gaunt fiber
that's a lot
true fable
how so
gaunt fiber
except on Arthur where the boon is free
solar maple
btw from now on when I play fresh file
if I die with 4+ keys
I will unlock spear for 3rd run and if I get flurry I play it out
icy acorn
reached chamber 9, but i'm gonna die to TD
got a pretty good run too, first room chaos and then sisyphus lol
i played it too safe
solemn pulsar
Hestia has DC2 my dude
solar maple
yeah just shoot them
solemn pulsar
Trust me from dealing with that for max heat Charon
One dash dc2 hestia is absolute pain
solemn pulsar
I used dusa like every time lol
solar maple
and 1 for meg
gaunt fiber
guys
solemn pulsar
One dash hestia that can’t one shot is a nightmare
solar maple
yeah I actually bought an extra dusa in my nem run lmao
gaunt fiber
you're planning for Tartarus
solar maple
and used all 6
unique zephyr
I’ll be happy if I reach the mid shop
true fable
i see baj making it to elysium by the end of the day
gaunt fiber
What's the plan for Aspho
solar maple
one step at a time astaos
gaunt fiber
there is no step
solar maple
just take collar for tart ez
then switch to tooth for aspho
acorn for elysium
and styx
ez
gaunt fiber
ez
mossy zinc
Hestia has DC2 my dude
Just get Lightning Strike.
solar maple
timed out in c12 with hestia
and that was with drunken strike stonks
I'll try rama now
but I die in tart with rama on 50 sooooo
got over half of alecto's health down with rama before I timed out (well I timed out like 5s in died after half health)
funny run, featuring both a chaos and an erebus gate lmao
erebus stonks
50 hp
makes RI2 free heat
my pb so far
bright mango
I’m using antos
solar maple
fidi helps a ton in hard normal rooms
gaunt fiber
extra challenge : loyalty card
solar maple
max heat charon has been done
bright mango
Cgull has done that
solar maple
by cgull yeah
solemn pulsar
I can say from experience after a CHaron fight you’ll have not much time on the timer lol
solar maple
I'm going to give chaos shield a go
solemn pulsar
CP2 Charon BEEFY
gaunt fiber
You're not zooming enough
mossy zinc
Are you sponsored?
gaunt fiber
Buy stygian shard and hope for Alecto
mossy zinc
Pseudo pro pseudo tips by pseudo.
bright mango
63 is hard
solar maple
if I'm doing max heat I might as well go all the way
bright mango
Could you try routed max heat beo?
solar maple
I could
bright mango
idk if that would work
solar maple
but routing with AP2 is a massive pain
bright mango
But with chaos and stuff lol idk
bright mango
but routing with AP2 is a massive pain
Just get lucky
solar maple
and zeus is already really hard
with routing the em4 fight in max heat would still be about as hard as the dad fight I have to do for 56 heat
so uhh
not easy
and not dying in elysium? oof
gaunt fiber
maybe if you block
solar maple
not taking chip damage in lernie? no thanks
also idk how to play styx tunnels without taking damage
I just dps race them
bright mango
yeah lernie is terrible
solar maple
in speedruns and in high heat
bright mango
Like how do you not take damage
gaunt fiber
Don't step in magma
bright mango
stonks
solar maple
summoner + lava spitter heads are pretty free
but slammer + wavemakers?
pain
I did make it slightly further with beo vs furies
solemn pulsar
Remember max heat routes get you 1 asphodel combat outside of midboss, and 3 elysium outside of midboss and than
Very doable
The bosses are the choke points
solar maple
with acorn heroes seems very doable to do damageless
can you route lernie heads?
because that fight varies from really hard to pretty free depending on heads
main choke points for beo would be: early tart fights (which I've proven here to be doable), fury fight (working on that) lernie (depending on heads) elysium normal rooms, styx tunnels could be annoying idk, and obviously em4
bright mango
Would blue heads be ideal for max heat? Since it's hard for them to get chip damage on you. purple heads/orange heads can just snipe you
bright mango
I figured summoners
solar maple
lava spitters are whatever
bright mango
Lava could be a lot of damage
bright mango
but yes summoners are pretty free
solar maple
wave makers are the worst
then blue heads
then hte projectile ones
then lava spitters
then summoners
I think that's all of them?
bronze viper
idespise the dracon beam heads
solar maple
the biggest gap in that list is between the wavemakers and blue heads
projectiles are almost as bad as slammers
also blue heads are only really bad if you have another bad head
they restrict space a ton
so combined with a wavemaker head you just die
with slammers + summoners you can just vibe over by some summoners when they are slamming
mossy zinc
Remember to submit your best attempts. If you submit a better one, it will replace your previous submission on the board, so you can just do that.
bright mango
First one to make it out of tartarus gets a cookie🍪
solemn pulsar
can you route lernie heads?
O yeah
solar maple
LOL I just died in a fountain chamber for the first time ever
got c12 fountain
died to timer
halcyon flame
you can take damage in fountain chambers??
bronze viper
Lava, timer, Hazard
solar maple
First one to make it out of tartarus gets a cookie🍪
I'm trying 😦
I've gotten to furies with rama, beo, and nem so far
only beo had enough time but I choked
bright mango
🍪 is not for pseudo
solemn pulsar
Someone is avoiding Zeus shield
solar maple
I'm bad at zeus
way better at better zag shield beowulf
but I agree zeus is best for this
rama can get the job done too
bronze viper
I'll try after I get this gosh durn Hestia clear
solar maple
but I'm too slow with rama
mossy zinc
LOL I just died in a fountain chamber for the first time ever
Zag Shield could be best shield if the base damage stacked with Charged Shot.
patent isle
do you need hell mode for 63 heat
patent isle
ah ok
dark raptor
LOL I just died in a fountain chamber for the first time ever
Lmao nice
solemn pulsar
Genius move: do hell mode 63 heat, cheat the challenge
mossy zinc
ledgerdamayn was inquiring about 62 Heat.
The rules are what they are, as written.
63 Heat. God Mode is not allowed. Take a screenshot of the chamber number.
honest kernel
whats god mode like, never used it, felt like I would be "cheating"
honest kernel
WOW
mossy zinc
And down again when you win.
honest kernel
ok thats easy mode
mossy zinc
Down to 20%.
honest kernel
glad I didn't use it then
honest kernel
what happened :(
honest kernel
lol no it is not
bright mango
Cookie is almost there🍪
solar maple
12 not enough
walked in with 12 seconds, went ham and almost got there
5 more seconds and I had it for sure
honest kernel
were u doing td3?
honest kernel
jesus ok well good luck to you lmao
solar maple
it's the monthly challenge
take all the heat and get as far as possible
my goal is to get to asphodel
solar maple
it's tough
honest kernel
I bet
bright mango
Is fidi really that good for normal rooms?
I would think antos for the furies would be the best
solar maple
chamber 9 was way longer than alecto
c9 was all unarmored witches
over a full min
pain
then c10 was like sub 10 igt lmao
mossy zinc
Did you use 4 summons in Tartarus?
mossy zinc
Maybe a 5th summon would have done it.
solar maple
one in miniboss, 2 in normal rooms, 1 in boss
eh maybe
the only late room I didn't use it in was c10
bit it would not have been faster
I skipped c11
honest kernel
dude I always forget summons exist lol
solar maple
I find it really amusing that I'm doing best with beo
even though beo has no right to be good at this lmao
bright mango
Yeah beo sounds absolutely miserable
solar maple
big plate safe
bright mango
Two cookies if you do it🍪🍪
solar maple
I basically only know how to play beo lmao
honest kernel
my most used are nemmy, arthur and chiron
mossy zinc
If I'd know it was that easy to distract my high heat competition with an impossible task, I would have done it months ago.