#h1-high-heat-strategies

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true fable
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i will do 50 rama

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im just

mossy zinc
true fable
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hmm

vital grove
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If only Tail realized it

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He'd do 63 easy

true fable
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i think 50 heat zag sword might be harder

mossy zinc
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In this gif: Zag Rail when you ignore Spread Fire.

rain sedge
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xD

edgy arrow
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Tail just wasting time getting a billion IQ to do powershots when he could just hold down Q and win in his sleep smh

bright mango
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Q special on kbm?

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If so then easy 63 for tail

edgy arrow
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oh yeah

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i only speak KBM

mossy zinc
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There's a Q in IQ.

bright mango
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm

bronze viper
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"I Q"

bright mango
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Coincidence i think not

edgy arrow
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brain explodes

rain sedge
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alright let's do it

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rama 50 it is

bright mango
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Its a sign from above

rain sedge
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then flurry jab 50

edgy arrow
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maybe i should try rama 50

rain sedge
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I can feel it

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50 all weapons

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then I'll be "good"

edgy arrow
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it’s so fashionable all of a sudden

bronze viper
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@rain sedge What weapons have you gotten to 50? Or is this the beginning of that effort

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Other than Rail

edgy arrow
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rama has a big wide charge thingy— it’s basically beowulf!

mossy zinc
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Yeah, a lot of people pronounce it like "Eek!", so they don't realize there's a Q in there, but it's actually pronounced "I Q".

rain sedge
bronze viper
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lmao

rain sedge
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hence the name

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the victory screen would look quite good with 6x50

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I'm gonna seed stuff though for sure

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who got time to reroll for flurry jab with AP

wanton plover
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yea that’s exactly why i did 40 for everything

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just for that beautiful screen

bronze viper
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I get PTSD from seeding.

rain sedge
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real

edgy arrow
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i briefly had the beautiful 6x40

rain sedge
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my victory screen has an ugly 53 now 😦

edgy arrow
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then i ruined it with beo 50

rain sedge
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it was 5x40 and 50 at the very bottom

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it was elegant

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now it feels unfinished

edgy arrow
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you gotta get all weapons 53 now

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only choice

bronze viper
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Tailesque is doomed

rain sedge
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does that even make it look less ugly

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53 is such an ugly number

wanton plover
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thats a beautiful number

rain sedge
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idk, it looks weird

edgy arrow
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welp, 6x60 then

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the only way

wanton plover
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its prime

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its beautiful

edgy arrow
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prime is just math talk for ugly

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there i said it

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take that, every mathematician ever

rain sedge
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actually true

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looks less ugly now

wanton plover
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peepohappy

edgy arrow
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did you just change your name to 97 just to mess with me

wanton plover
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no it was always 97

edgy arrow
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oh

wanton plover
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wow thanks for noticing

mossy zinc
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Yeah, it was always 97. What did you think it was?

edgy arrow
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idk lol

wanton plover
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97 was always my discord name. but my server nickname was “:)”

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at one point i was also 91

edgy arrow
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ah

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there we go

bronze viper
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Are we getting gaslit

vital grove
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Ohok did you change your avatar

edgy arrow
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yes

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it used to be the number 97

vital grove
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Ah

mossy zinc
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Y'all need help.

vital grove
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Now you're Thanatos

edgy arrow
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evidently

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wish i could do 9999 damage

lusty mirage
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kinda still looks like 97

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or 17

mossy zinc
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You'd need to hit anything first.

edgy arrow
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you ever seen than hit anything?

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he just waves his arm and things die

bronze viper
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Losing to than is mega feel bads

mossy zinc
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What said I was talking about Than? squirtdevious

edgy arrow
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it happened to me recently 😭

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this is why i shouldn’t play non beo weapons

rain sedge
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sometimes it just spawns really bad enemies

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and I keep dodging to let than takes care of it

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and he just... doesn't

bronze viper
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Lmao, the feeling when you know your jank build can't beat Than so you run around and wait for him to do everything for you.

mossy zinc
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Than rooms in Elysium are scary.

rain sedge
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what kinda FWB is than

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at least meg is useful with her summons

edgy arrow
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sometimes i screech out loud at than to kill certain enemies

solemn pulsar
edgy arrow
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“than, kill that chariot. than! the chariot! than you can one shot things, kill the stuff with the most health it’s only fair!”

bronze viper
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MFW Than targets a baby shade in Elysium instead of the armored chariot

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I feel like someone here committed themselves to doing ME Eris at some point, but I can't remember who

edgy arrow
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that was Bright

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he did it

bronze viper
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new meta

mossy zinc
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I don't watch speedruns unless m looking for something very specific, so no.

edgy arrow
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yeah like, speedruns are cool but there’s so many of them

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how does anyone keep up with all that

solemn pulsar
honest kernel
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thx

solemn pulsar
mossy zinc
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I faintly remember hearing about that run.

honest kernel
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shackle is a thing now

edgy arrow
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40 is like, the new 32 now lol

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in that it’s the heat where people do weird flexes

mossy zinc
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The point wasn't that other builds don't work, just that other builds work better on other rails.

solemn pulsar
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i mean any build on rail 32 is going to go fast

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bc rail

mossy zinc
honest kernel
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hi shadesmile

solemn pulsar
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shackle has 2 main issues:

  1. damage does start to fall off around elysium, since you might have been lucky enough to pick up some good boons / poms by then otherwise. in AP2 land, shackle is consistent DPS though
  2. no defensive keepsake for EM3 or hades fight, which unless you're actually good at the game, makes them very difficult
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but shackle buff was big, made it actually viable

honest kernel
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im shooting for 45 wasn't really considering ap2 yet

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but thx

vital grove
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Yeah for sure shackle is very competitive now

edgy arrow
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i feel like shackle AP2 might be a valid build for hestia 45

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probs not the easiest tho idk

honest kernel
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yeah hades without acorn is scary for sure ron

solemn pulsar
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my play for AP2 hestia is to force artemis/aphrodite in tartarus, since hestia naked damage carries fine through tart

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then if you don't get your preferred attack boon in tart, you'll have a few rolls for it in the next few biomes from keys

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and switch to shackle until you get the attack boon basically

edgy arrow
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how consistently can you get an attack doing that?

solemn pulsar
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this is also a strong strat at 50 when you probably take RI1, since losing dark foresight = more blue laure rooms = MORE KEYS

edgy arrow
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i’m no super familiar with AP2 rng

honest kernel
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are you all running TD3

solemn pulsar
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and if you don't do RI1 you have 4 rolls which is decent chance

edgy arrow
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but i’m looking to push hestia 50 soon

bronze viper
honest kernel
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yeah TD3 is a bit scary to me im slow

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although with a nice build its def possible

bronze viper
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AP2 TD3 is big sad for me. Chaos will sometimes just make big stinky on your run.

edgy arrow
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for a fast weapon like hestia i’d defs look at TD3 for 45

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but you’d be able to work without it for sure

honest kernel
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yeah I just need to practice and unrust a bit and it can work

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probably

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and if I get good elysium rooms :p

wanton plover
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it wounds my pride to do td2 rather than 3

edgy arrow
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same

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i still sometimes do it tho

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bunch of my 40s have TD2

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being able to just waltz through a 5 sack is really relaxing

true fable
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same

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40 heat TD2 is just very relaxing

shy gulch
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^

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I’ve also come around to TD2 train, it’s straight vibes

true fable
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also its the only way to beat the game with hades spear unless you get good hammers

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:^)

shy gulch
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:^)

neat sonnet
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Question: up to what point is guan yu reeeeally viable/easy? Speaking as a pretty not great player

edgy arrow
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works pretty well up to 40

true fable
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its viable up to 50 imo

edgy arrow
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after that things get hard

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but people have cleared 50 with it ye

true fable
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after 40 things get hard for most aspects

rain sedge
edgy arrow
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depends what you mean by “viable” ig

true fable
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we're not counting hestia in most aspects

rain sedge
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it's the biggest reason I don't do unseeded 56

neat sonnet
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Strat is just charged skewer right, or is there something I’m missing?

true fable
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charged skewer or merciful end

wanton plover
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if possible

rain sedge
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also I find it funny 2 people who likes TD2 are the 2 speedrunners

wanton plover
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issue is you cant force hammers like boons

bronze viper
true fable
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but i did do all those eris clears on JS3 TD3

rain sedge
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I see you megging witches at 40, it's not taking a break

edgy arrow
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love how y’all do 40 heat for a nice relaxing break

true fable
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have more faith in your aspect schad its busted

rain sedge
true fable
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yeah you can run stuff like dio attack

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its relaxing

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40 heat is so flexible

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genuinely one of the most fun heat levels imo

rain sedge
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but resetting over 4 times after every death just to get lightning strike?

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that's a no for me

bronze viper
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No I have faith lmao, just the relative perspective of having a singular reason why one can't do 56 heat.

wanton plover
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its completely subjective

neat sonnet
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Aight, sounds reasonable. For merciful end you want doom on the special weak on atk I assume?

wanton plover
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doom atk , athena spec and dash

true fable
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the artist formerly known as ":)" coming through with the big brain stuff

neat sonnet
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Got it, thanks! And also I just want to say I’m amazed at y’all and being ‘chill’ on 40, that’s amazing

bronze viper
true fable
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you'll get there

edgy arrow
rain sedge
neat sonnet
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Bless y’all

rain sedge
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GY was never easy .

true fable
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ohokwy youre there too

edgy arrow
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speaking for myself, 40 is pretty hard

true fable
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havent you done 50 though

edgy arrow
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ye

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once

true fable
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you dont ever finish grinding the entire day for sub 7 and think "low tolerance 40 heat chiron sounds like a good time"

edgy arrow
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i definitely can’t do 40 reliably

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lmao i’m not a speedrunner

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i don’t even know what a sub 7 is

true fable
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you are on speedrun board

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therefore speedrunner

edgy arrow
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uh oh

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you’ve got me there

rain sedge
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imagine getting sub 7

true fable
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same with ledger

rain sedge
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9+ min plus gang here

edgy arrow
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with my mighty times of checks notes very slow

bronze viper
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I submitted my 50 from yesterday to join the 50 unseeded board lmao. I got faster than Tail's literal slowest entry!

true fable
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its kind of funny how it evens out at 50

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like my 50 time is pretty unimpressive among the general 50 heat clears

rain sedge
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grats!

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my 50 time is very slow for an eris gamer

true fable
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especially compared to pseudo

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who apparently has solved high heat beowulf

rain sedge
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54 yikes

bronze viper
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My 50 time was like 26:11 lmao

rain sedge
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did not see that coming

edgy arrow
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ledger did 50 ages ago

bronze viper
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That was very seeded

rain sedge
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but he said "yesterday"....

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I'm just going off what he said 😦

edgy arrow
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oh yeah seeded that’s right

bronze viper
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I think 2 days ago? I got 50 unseeded for the first time

true fable
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wasnt that just seeded for RV

bronze viper
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I think I was the 6th person who got 50 ever though

true fable
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poggers

edgy arrow
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yup that’s correct

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i was counting at the time

true fable
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its funny because

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i remember joining this channel

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and just being amazed that ledger had done chaos at 40

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i kept timing out at 32

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now instead i time out on chaos at 50

bronze viper
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;_; we all time out on Chaos at 50 lol

edgy arrow
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is it practical to run TD2 at 50

true fable
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i wonder if dio special actually is the way to go

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yeah i was doing it for a bit

bronze viper
true fable
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you need to EM4 and have awful awful rooms

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but its possible

bronze viper
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No EM4

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Just RI2 + AP1

true fable
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i meant for chaos

bronze viper
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Oh lmao

edgy arrow
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EM4 with chaos would be a slog lol

true fable
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eh

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idk actually

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i find most chaos builds that make it there are pretty strong

edgy arrow
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i mean i’ve never tried it so ig idk

true fable
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chaos is slowest early game and eysium imo

bronze viper
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I've only done EM4 FO2 on 3 aspects, but Chaos was one of them. Shielding op

edgy arrow
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maybe i should

true fable
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chaos also takes years vs furies

gaunt fiber
true fable
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i was trying some RI3 strats

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its kind of hard

rain sedge
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RI3 hard

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big news

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ring the bells

bronze viper
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Imagine needing a mirror

edgy arrow
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i only play EM4 on beo

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because i am a coward

bronze viper
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I can't do EM4 FO2 on Rama. I don't understand when I'm supposed to press anything other than Dash lol

edgy arrow
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how to EM4 FO2 on rama

step 1: be Tailesque

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that’s it that’s the end of the guide

true fable
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i mean RI3 on non beo shields is pretty ok imo

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its the RI2 part that hurts me more than the RI3 part

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i miss me 50 health

gaunt fiber
bronze viper
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And you learn twice as fast since you take twice the damage wait...

edgy arrow
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^^^

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i need to play GY

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it makes me so much better at the game

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it’s the boot camp of aspects

true fable
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it is

gaunt fiber
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Tbh yeah

true fable
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very humbling aspect

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teaches you the flaws in your approach

bronze viper
true fable
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there are risks possible on other aspects that GY simply cannot handle lol

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also GY taught me how to use serrated point well

edgy arrow
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when i have serrated point i just hope everything’s dead by the time i run out of dashes

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otherwise i’m screwed

bronze viper
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I think Hades does a better job of teaching good Serrated Point habits lol, since you can afford to get hit a couple of times to screw up so you don't have to get the hammer again

true fable
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you can separate the dash from the strike

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so its actually quite safe

bronze viper
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Yeah you have like... a little under a second to separate the dash from the strike

gaunt fiber
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There's no way I'm using serrated at 50+

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not yet

bronze viper
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It lets you dash back and strike forward, similar to Hestia's play loop

true fable
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yah

edgy arrow
true fable
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i think its p safe

bronze viper
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Unless I'm going full f-it-yolo I do not burst all of my dash strikes on an enemy lol

true fable
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anything without armor is stunlocked and anything with armor gets shredded quickly

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you need h sprint pretty bad imo

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but other than that it actually feels pretty ok

minor merlin
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serrated point is the triple dash attack, right?

bronze viper
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Yeah

true fable
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yee

gaunt fiber
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Yeah but unfortunately there's more than one enemy per room

edgy arrow
true fable
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lol

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mood

bronze viper
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Lol it's tempting because of how Merciful End plays to do that, but you die for it

minor merlin
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guan yu is really fun to use

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guan yu's i guess-

edgy arrow
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you’re not wrong

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actually idk if i’ve tried ME GY

bronze viper
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I was talking about Malphon ME lmao

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Not a crazy person

edgy arrow
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ME GY good as it turns out

minor merlin
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i haven't memorized what ME could mean?

true fable
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ME GY is very good

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merciful end

minor merlin
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OH

true fable
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its more hammer proof

minor merlin
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thaaaaaat's the ares/athena?? (?)

true fable
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yeah

honest kernel
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TD3 doesnt feel good for me rn, dying just bc you got saviors

edgy arrow
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let’s just keep chaining two letter acronyms to confuse newcomers

true fable
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deflect attack instantly activate doom effects

edgy arrow
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ME GY OP

minor merlin
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oh my

bronze viper
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Lol, I imagine that's the reaction new players get the first time they enter this channel and see pact sets

gaunt fiber
true fable
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i should go back and clip my dad fight from my GY ME attempt with heroic dashes and impending

gaunt fiber
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lol Ledger

minor merlin
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i can only remember ocean's bounty as op... i think that's a thing

true fable
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im pretty sure i saw 2000+ doom crits

minor merlin
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o_o

gaunt fiber
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Yeah the numbers can go high

true fable
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ME good

edgy arrow
bronze viper
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Do you just like, play it basically exactly the same as Malphon ME? Doom attack, Divine Flourish + Dash and yolo?

true fable
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yeah

gaunt fiber
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But you're still using special

true fable
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still dash strike dash strike special though

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yeah

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you use special whenever you run out of dashes

bronze viper
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Oh right, GY special without Charged Skewer is still good lmao

gaunt fiber
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It is yeah

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But for speed charged skewer is like your early run insurance

bronze viper
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Going ME once you have Charged Skewer is big high roll flex

gaunt fiber
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Yeah any heat be like that

true fable
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special is also an extra ME proc sometimes

edgy arrow
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charged skewer also lets you chuck an uncharged special faster

bronze viper
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Yeah

edgy arrow
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which i imagine is useful for ME

true fable
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ye

bronze viper
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This sounds fun I'll probably try that out, GY is probably my next 40 anyway

gaunt fiber
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Can't go wrong with an owl pendant start

edgy arrow
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just do what i did; get charged skewer chamber 1 and first try it

minor merlin
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wait op was owl pendant the whole time?

true fable
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lol

bronze viper
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OP OP

gaunt fiber
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lol

minor merlin
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confusion

true fable
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owl pendant start is pretty good

edgy arrow
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it all makes sense

minor merlin
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unconfusion

true fable
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you just take epic divine flourish or divine dash

gaunt fiber
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or the epic divine strike for the secret deflecting donut build

true fable
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gross

minor merlin
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i've only been trying high-ish heat for the past few days so i'm still not so uh... good at it

true fable
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takes practice

minor merlin
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i've just been using the bone hourglass

bronze viper
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My classic struggle on Malphon is taking Merciful End vs. Divine Dash. One of them means I have a dead boon until I see Athena again and the other means I'll have the resources to finish the run but I'll have to engage my brain

gaunt fiber
true fable
edgy arrow
gaunt fiber
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lmao

true fable
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dash strike dash upper is still really good

shy plinth
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TEMPEST STRIKE

true fable
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for activating ME

gaunt fiber
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You're right actually ohokwy

true fable
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i legit think you could probably mom blossom start GY

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for funsies

gaunt fiber
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but what could be bad tbh

shy plinth
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Mom blossom tempest strike winged dragon quick spin

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Get sea storm

minor merlin
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i usually just go for quick spin on guan yu and then only use the spin attack for the rest of the run

true fable
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well if you get poseidon start you can just throw it on spec

gaunt fiber
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yeah it's really nice

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and fun

bronze viper
minor merlin
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ah

gaunt fiber
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I'm sure you can go TD3 with a spin build

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but you're not spinning all the time anyway

minor merlin
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(td3?)

wanton plover
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tight deadline

minor merlin
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OH

bronze viper
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Tight Deadline. They're stickied in this channel

gaunt fiber
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5 minutes per biome

true fable
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or 7

minor merlin
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i've been avoiding tight deadline because scary

minor merlin
true fable
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best start playing on a timer imo

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teaches you how to optimize your dps

bronze viper
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Yeah, focusing on speed when you're newer is not ideal. Focus more on mechanics and you know... fun. It's a video game.

edgy arrow
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if you check your times you’ll prolly find you’re within TD1 already

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and TD2/3 will come with practice and taking free rooms more consistently

minor merlin
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timers freak me out in games but i also wanna check out higher heat so

edgy arrow
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i used to be the same

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you get used to it

bronze viper
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TD2/3 will come as you naturally learn how to kill enemies more efficiently, and know what rooms you should take, and what boons are important to make builds work

minor merlin
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good to know

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ahh

gaunt fiber
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It's scary but also fun imo

shy plinth
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If you just leave it on it becomes part of the game

true fable
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i like playing with some urgency

shy plinth
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Yeah gotta go fast

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It's also kind of a nice indicator as to how well you're doing sometimes

bronze viper
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As a general rule you should always have TD1 active. If you can't clear that it's a good smoke test that something is very wrong

minor merlin
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i mean the highest i've really been going for is 32 heat and right now that's even too much so... i'm scared for where this will take me

shy plinth
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Too much right now

true fable
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whats the highest you have done so far?

shy plinth
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Doesn't have to be that way forever, and TD will make your runs easier most of the time

minor merlin
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i mean i got through at 16 heat

true fable
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thats pretty good

shy plinth
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Almost every other heat pact is more punishing than the first two ranks

true fable
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16>32 is a pretty huge jump imo

bronze viper
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TD1 also gets rid of survival rooms, which are trash. It's arguably just easier always to play with TD1 lol

minor merlin
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that's the highest heat i've beaten mr. funny father at

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ah

true fable
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try out some stuff in the 20s

minor merlin
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i mean i'm trying to get the skelly statues

true fable
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theres also a basic guide to 32 pinned in the channel

edgy arrow
minor merlin
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ahhh thank

edgy arrow
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this is the reason i originally learned to run TD

true fable
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if youre having trouble with pact setup or builds or what have you

minor merlin
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check pins, i need to remember this

edgy arrow
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survival rooms just annoyed me so much lol

shy plinth
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They're such a pain

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And really TD2 becomes pretty natural/free with even a little bit of practice

true fable
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i want to see what the highest heat survival room looks like

minor merlin
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wait td gets rid of survival rooms :o

shy plinth
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TD3 is the really punishing one

true fable
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ive done some hellosh ones on 32 heat

shy plinth
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BP2 FO survival rooms sound scary

bronze viper
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I don't think I've done TD0 with BP2 FO2, but I have to imagine survival rooms are pretty much an autoloss lol

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JS3 triggered

minor merlin
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bp2 fo2... run in circles i guess???

edgy arrow
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how many enemies would be on screen in a JS3 survival room lol

bronze viper
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Someone science this out and see how many cloner witches they can get on the screen at the same time. Just hide in a corner with a shield up lmao

edgy arrow
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there’s already so many normally

shy plinth
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Advanced strat: TD0, Skelly companion

edgy arrow
minor merlin
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wait would td0 just be no td?

true fable
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ive done survival rooms with FO2 BP2 and DC2

bronze viper
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Correct

minor merlin
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trying to wrap my head around all this

true fable
#

its pretty terrifying

shy plinth
#

If you hear a pact with 0 at the end it just means turning it off

true fable
#

not a pact combination i would recommend

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you just fall into it with randomized challenges sometimes

bronze viper
#

Describing pacts as 0 in this channel is pretty common, as the higher you go, it's a far more relevant question what you do not take vs. what you do

shy plinth
#

Especially TD

edgy arrow
#

why on earth where you running FO2 BP2 DC2 and no TD

minor merlin
#

ahhh iseeisee

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dc looks terrifying

true fable
gaunt fiber
edgy arrow
#

ah

true fable
#

i think it may have been JS2-3 aswell

minor merlin
#

i tried dc2 once and was like "no thank you please no"

true fable
#

maybe CP?

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not sure

edgy arrow
#

oof

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yeah just hide in a corner with shield

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only way

bronze viper
#

But for some reason most new players just shrug it off as one of the easiest pacts

shy plinth
#

DC is probably the most aspect dependent pact yeah?

gaunt fiber
shy plinth
#

Like fists/rail/chiron/rama don't care much

true fable
#

CF is up there imo

wanton plover
#

HECK dc

true fable
#

chiron still does imo

shy plinth
minor merlin
#

dc looks scary to me because it means i'll waste certain attacks if i try them

true fable
#

lol

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i think any cast aspect hates CF

edgy arrow
#

if so, that’s inspiring

shy plinth
#

Yes but half of them are french

bronze viper
#

Chiron cares a lot about DC lol. Well, at least the first DC. There is no difference between DC1 and 2. Your bow especially if you get Twin Shot with Heartbreak Strike still makes up a huge chunk of your damage

true fable
#

how else is he gonna get people to play that weapon

minor merlin
#

like if i'm trying to use the funny gun i'd be scared of dc because i could easily waste my special damage

edgy arrow
#

there’s like 500 beo players and we don’t have any catchy names

shy plinth
#

Oh yeah you don't hestia+dc

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That's not a thing

true fable
#

wet washboard

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damp disc

shy plinth
#

Okay I'm proud of that one

minor merlin
gaunt fiber
true fable
#

lol

edgy arrow
gaunt fiber
bronze viper
#

@minor merlin you don't have to figure everything out now lol. Really just find an aspect you enjoy playing, and figure out the pacts that aren't that bad. You'll get naturally better over time.

shy plinth
#

Yeah like the best advice is "play a lot"

minor merlin
#

ah!

true fable
#

and stay away from AP/RI!

minor merlin
#

play a lot is certainly something i can do

true fable
#

the dark side of the pact

shy plinth
#

Also I strongly recommend watching Tailesque vods to see really high level play for habits to emulate

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And I strongly recommend watching Retrash vods to see things that should not work but somehow do

minor merlin
#

ap and ri look intense

true fable
#

they are intense

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tailesque's play is hard to emulate imo

shy plinth
#

It is

bronze viper
#

Oh, and some things to help you out if you haven't stumbled into them on your own. Only take Dark Foresight in your mirror. Same with Fated Persuasion

shy plinth
#

But the precision of those defensive dashes is something I try to do

true fable
#

hes just so much more patient than anyone else playing at 50

edgy arrow
shy plinth
#

Yeah

gaunt fiber
#

It would be "Love donut" imo

bronze viper
#

In this channel you will only see people take Stubborn Defiance, but no huge rush on learning that if you're not comfortable. It's terrible anyway until you're certain you can do bosses in 0-1 DDs

minor merlin
#

i've noticed that one of the most important (??? i don't actually know anything) abilities in this game is the power to choose what comes next, so ap and ri look o_o

edgy arrow
#

actually i think “archery donut” is almost so bad it’s good

gaunt fiber
#

Gotta hone these skills but I feel some potential

honest kernel
#

yeah those pacts are kindof the worst heh

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ri1 isnt so bad tho

minor merlin
#

OH WAIT STUBBORN DEFIANCE

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it used to be the only thing i used and then i was like "i wanna die to mr. funny father more" and i forgot about it

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oops

bronze viper
#

The setup you probably want to learn if you want to progress in heat is EM3, MM, FO2, BP2, TDx. At some point, to make that easier, you will probably want to learn LC4 (with Stubborn Defiance)

shy plinth
#

Also note that if you go FO0 to FO2 you will die a lot lot lot lot lot

edgy arrow
shy plinth
#

I went FO0 to FO1 and still struggled

honest kernel
#

is it?

shy plinth
#

FO2 will catch up to you in Elysium when you meet our friend the bull

bronze viper
#

Yeah... there's no real way around it. Everything will kill you with FO2. You need to relearn the game lol

gaunt fiber
#

I did FO 0>2

edgy arrow
gaunt fiber
#

Pain it was

shy plinth
#

RI1 just takes away all the control you have over your build

minor merlin
#

i've been trying fo2 because i'm afraid of everything else

shy plinth
#

You get fewer boons, worse boons, and no rerolls

true fable
#

RI1 is worse than any other RI level other than 4 lol

honest kernel
#

you say goodbye to that anyway on high heat

bronze viper
#

FO2 doesn't show it's ugly side until you get BP2 or EM3

gaunt fiber
#

Mfw I saw Asterius charging for the first time at FO2

shy plinth
#

At a certain point you need to take it but RI1 is something that's advised against below like mid 40s

true fable
#

well yeah but you dont need to take RI1 until like 40 heat MINIMUM

honest kernel
#

really ri1 and 2 were always the first things I played with

#

well thats how it is

true fable
#

unless you play like

#

hestia or arthur

#

in which case DC is by far the worst pact

edgy arrow
#

even with them you don’t need RI1 at 40

bronze viper
#

At least for me when I was learning the game, EM3 FO2 was probably the most dramatic brickwall

true fable
#

but RI1 is unequivocally bad because dark foresight is so broken busted

#

for an explanation of why

minor merlin
#

i've gotten used to EM stuff, but i'm concerned i won't make it much farther with FO2 on... guess i need to practice

edgy arrow
#

i lowkey complain at DF if i don’t have five billion health at the end of a run

honest kernel
#

fo2 is a massive wall yea

edgy arrow
#

that’s how broken it is

bronze viper
#

You can do it in steps too. You don't have to turn everything on at once. The pacts I listed are just the ones that probably require the most adjustment of play, they just radically alter the game experience.

honest kernel
#

okay

bronze viper
#

AP/RI excluded since they are the spawn of Satan and are specifically there for masochists

edgy arrow
#

^^^

#

this happens to be the #hades-high-heat-masochists channel tho

true fable
#

according to dataminers, dark foresight is even more busted than it seems on the tooltip

#

it says 20% more gold laurel

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but it also shifts 20% fewer blue laurel rewards

#

for effectively 40% more gold laurel rewards

edgy arrow
#

i mean, yeah that’s how percents work

true fable
#

well

edgy arrow
#

otherwise it would have to add 20% more rooms

true fable
#

it could be interpreted as

#

10% in both directions

#

it is not

bronze viper
#

The buff to Dark Foresight was twofold. One, it just didn't work before lmao. And two, they doubled its effectiveness

true fable
#

it basically means you will have at most 2-3 meta reward rooms past tartarus

#

that is insane

honest kernel
#

lol yeah I remember it not working or something

bronze viper
#

Honestly I'm not sure why they decided to do both. We'll never know if 10% would have been sufficient. It feels bonkers now though, so no complaints.

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And it's not like it matters past a heat threshold. You don't get nice things anymore.

honest kernel
#

yeh

edgy arrow
#

i think they left it at 20% on purpose

#

i think it’s supposed to be the obvious choice

bronze viper
#

They should probably buff the rare % talent to be like... remotely competitive though

true fable
#

RI means you get less things in general

edgy arrow
#

like, you switch to it when you’re done farming meta resources because they just get annoying after a while

true fable
#

AP means you get less specific things

shy plinth
#

The math I did indicates roughly 6 more gold laurels per run

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For DF

true fable
#

it feels like much more

#

im not sure why

bronze viper
#

Does it though? 6 is nuts

edgy arrow
#

it’s not “+rare% vs. DF” it’s “getting meta resources vs. DF”

shy plinth
#

6 is a ton

#

36 chambers through end of elysium -3 shops -3 bosses

edgy arrow
#

i agree that olympian favour could use a buff tho

solar maple
#

RI is evil. Avoid all ranks as much as possible

honest kernel
#

maybe rarity should be better in general then dunno

bronze viper
#

I don't like when people suggest turning DF off for meta resources. I think with how much it helps you complete runs that you could probably accrue metas faster by just playing the game more with DF active

true fable
#

for me its just that rarity is so boon dependent

edgy arrow
#

idk if i’d suggest it

shy plinth
#

That's really for like first 10 heat runs

true fable
#

i do not care about the rarity of a deadly strike

edgy arrow
#

but i can see the argument

true fable
#

as long as it has a 15% chance to crit

wanton plover
#

i modded every boon to be common. you really feel the lower rarity

#

really really feel it

true fable
#

again, boon dependent

gaunt fiber
#

usually disappears with a pom tho

bronze viper
#

Yeah the argument def makes sense on the surface but yeah, I mean it's kind of impossible to tell lol. At the very least, not having DF on hamstrings blood/diamond/ambrosia progress

edgy arrow
#

maybe olympian favour should actually give you more meta resources

honest kernel
#

its prob inevitable to have 1 side that works more consistently than the other one for high heat tbh

#

since someone is just gonna find a good strat and then everyone does the thing too

edgy arrow
#

if it gave you extra meta resources, that would give it a buff and make it super clear what it’s niche is

#

so folks don’t take it thinking the rarity is better than DF when they’re not farming

#

idk

edgy arrow
shy plinth
#

I think the way I'd put it is that the level of progression where you'd need DF off for meta resources is the same level where DF would not be unlocked

gaunt fiber
#

The hat is wise

edgy arrow
#

yeah

#

Schad don’t eat him

shy plinth
#

D:

wanton plover
#

why schad eat hat

edgy arrow
#

idk

#

prolly a cultural thing

#

part of a balanced diet maybe?

#

just throwing ideas around

solemn pulsar
#

RI is evil, but if you take one, you might as well take 2

bronze viper
#

Should change name to InedibleHat

gaunt fiber
#

He shall be eaten though

#

There is no other way

edgy arrow
solar maple
#

the second RI is still awful

#

just not as bad as the first

edgy arrow
#

it’s mostly awful in tartarus

#

but yeah

shy plinth
#

Losing 50 life and 25% damage by the end of the run...

#

It's mostly bad in tartarus and then also elysium and styx

#

But it's kind of fine in asphodel I guess

mossy zinc
bronze viper
#

Lol, -50 life in Asphodel is pretty not fine

solar maple
#

-50hp -100 gold - 20%damage is massive

gaunt fiber
#

Yeah kinda feel the hp loss ngl

edgy arrow
#

for sure

#

idk i feel it most in tartarus

bronze viper
#

Well yeah you're mostly naked at that point

edgy arrow
#

but it probs effects the whole run more than i notice

mossy zinc
#

Yeah, -25 HP is kind of a lot.

solar maple
#

I actually found 54 beo much more consistent with RI1 CP2 DC1 than RI2 CP1 DC0

edgy arrow
bronze viper
#

Yeah, optimizations at that high of heat are going to be a bit weird no matter what. CP in particular is pretty egregious

edgy arrow
#

huh that’s super interesting

#

i mean, imo CP hurts beo less than most aspects

#

but still

bronze viper
#

Oh I have no idea for Beo, I just meant in general lol. CP1 is probably the most aggravating part of Hell Mode

edgy arrow
#

oh i was replying to pseudo

solar maple
#

RI2 hurts boss speed as much as the 2nd CP. FF ~= +15% hp

edgy arrow
#

yeah i was thinking that

solar maple
#

not to mention starting with twice as much health

edgy arrow
#

and DC1 probably isn’t the worst in the world

solar maple
#

dc is very annoying for timer, especially with a bad build because no rolls

#

but doable

edgy arrow
#

makes sense when you say it, but i probably wouldn’t have thought of it

bronze viper
#

I didn't watch the 56/57 Hestia runs. Did they have DC on? How do you do that?

edgy arrow
#

yeah anything’s gonna be annoying at 54 tho ig

mossy zinc
shy plinth
#

Yeah they used the alternate firing mode of Hestia

solar maple
#

I did a bunch of RI2 attempts then won very quickly after I switched to RI1

shy plinth
#

Normal attacks LUL

bronze viper
#

eww. So pew pew (reload) PEW for every enemy?

mossy zinc
#

No idea what they did. I didn't watch. dusa

bronze viper
#

Makes it more impressive I guess lol.

gaunt fiber
#

They reload before shooting, the rail glows and stuff dies

edgy arrow
#

hestia has an alternate firing mode? 😮

#

secret tech revealed

timid kindle
#

what's your best stygius heat?

shy plinth
#

Hadesprofessor's 57 hestia had HL5 LC4 CF2 JS3 EM4 CP2 BP2 MM UC FO2 HS RI2 AP2 TD3 ewwwwww

#

I guess AP2 isn't quite as punishing on Hestia

edgy arrow
#

that’s actually no DC

mossy zinc
#

Still a better pact than DC2.

neat sonnet
#

say astaos, did you say something about hyper sprint being a go-to on GY

shy plinth
#

He ended up with heroic aph attack

true fable
#

they dont run DC for hestia lol

bronze viper
#

Okay, so yeah, that confirms my thought. pew pew reload PEW takes an actual eternity to do

edgy arrow
#

yeah i remember Crepes saying that DC was just a no go at 50+

solemn pulsar
#

DC is a no go anywhere for hestia

edgy arrow
#

and i was always like “can’t you just shoot a few rounds then snipe?”

solemn pulsar
#

it's always the worst heat to take

edgy arrow
#

but good players say not

#

fair

gaunt fiber
#

Was not me Noxalas, it was Bright saying it was really nice with serrated point (which is true). I'd take greatest reflex tho in general

solar maple
#

yeah you don't take DC on hestia until like 61 heat haha

neat sonnet
#

cheers!

mossy zinc
#

I'll take whichever I see first out of Greatest Reflex and Hyper Sprint.

edgy arrow
#

i mean, obviously you don’t take it below 50

#

there’s plenty of other options then

bronze viper
#

I haven't been offered > common Swift Strike on bow in a very very long time. It still does nothing right?

gaunt fiber
#

Why did I type Noxalas thanthink

solar maple
#

swift strike bad

edgy arrow
#

^

neat sonnet
#

it was my nick dw

#

just for my own sake

mossy zinc
edgy arrow
#

unless they patched it recently while i wasn’t paying attention it still does nothing yeah

neat sonnet
#

this is usually what I go by

halcyon flame
#

it only affects your normal attack

neat sonnet
#

realized

gaunt fiber
neat sonnet
#

not at all

bronze viper
halcyon flame
#

and since you're mostly using dash-strike it usually does nothing lol

true fable
#

no youre still crazy

bronze viper
#

Wait, so it does work on the standing attack draw speed?

true fable
#

hope that helps astaos

gaunt fiber
true fable
gaunt fiber
#

Thanks bright

bronze viper
#

That's so weird lmao

edgy arrow
#

yeah super weird

true fable
#

just not dash strikes

#

tbf it would get weird

#

how do you make a dash strike faster on like

#

shield

#

or sword

bronze viper
#

Hestia Swift Strike meta

true fable
#

lol

edgy arrow
#

idk but it’s clear how it would work for bow

solar maple
#

bright I hate you now I run RR

edgy arrow
#

mmm imagine heroic swift strike rama if it worked on dash strike

neat sonnet
#

that would be nutty

solar maple
#

heroic swift strike would make normal attacks worth it

edgy arrow
#

maybe it would actually lol

#

idk what’s a bow anyway

bronze viper
#

My favorite is when my tiny lizard brain sees that I am in a very small but safe spot in Lernie's phase 3 but decides "BUT I NEED TO DASH STRIKE TO GET A FASTER CHARGE"

edgy arrow
#

that’s where you get charged shot and minotaur rush, right?

solar maple
#

mino + charge just turns shield into rama yeah

edgy arrow
#

rama except better

#

haha

#

hides from bow players

solar maple
#

rama that's invincible while charging dusa

bronze viper
#

Rama used to have a chip on its shoulder but I don't think it has anything left to prove lmao

edgy arrow
#

honestly true

mossy zinc
#

@neat sonnet have you done a run for the challenge yet? dusa

edgy arrow
#

while beo is still trying to live up to the legacy of +400% charged flight

mossy zinc
#

@gaunt fiber have you? dusa

bronze viper
#

I dedicated my 50 Rama to Tailesque, who told me in no uncertain terms to play Special Rama

edgy arrow
#

it can never be as good as it was in our memories

mossy zinc
#

I saw.

timid kindle
#

Rama felt so cool to use when I unlocked it

#

I maxxed it out first cough

#

thank you hermes for swift strike

gaunt fiber
solar maple
#

the worst part about shackle start beo is it buffs the special so sometimes you actually use it

timid kindle
#

hold on I mixxed up the aspects

#

I meant the uh
the hidden bow one

#

not Rama

bronze viper
#

I felt like I was committing a sin to pick Relentless Volley over Triple Shot in room 1 lol, but i already had the Dio keepsake. It was fate

mossy zinc
#

@timid kindle ohhh. With your name, you definitely gotta do a run for the challenge. 💕

timid kindle
#

wh-what

edgy arrow
#

like, when an enemy is on the other side of the map with 1hp

#

you can save like, half a second

timid kindle
#

why

bronze viper
#

Cat girl tier list

timid kindle
#

I'm a succubus not a catgirl cough cough wheeeze

#

kin gang

neat sonnet
#

which challenge nyaanyaa?

mossy zinc
#

I come up with 1-2 Monthly Challenges for the community every month. The latest is pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat. It's a collaboration with Lady Aphrodite herself! 💕

timid kindle
#

aphrodite she- th-that's my boss ma'am

neat sonnet
#

oh dang, I haven't seen, I will check it out right after!

timid kindle
#

already I work for her

#

succubi, love goddess, 🥵 I'm already in the business

mossy zinc
#

Well, then you better listen to her request. 💕

timid kindle
#

OMG ITS HER VA

#

AAA

mossy zinc
#

She streams all the time. You should come hang out.

neat sonnet
#

aww court, I will dedicate a run immediately following this one

timid kindle
#

EEEE SHES ANIMATEd

#

I need the cz_power_cry emote but with the hearts that I've only seen online
I'm panicking she aa
excuse the lesbian she's going to need a minute

bronze viper
#

Is she contractually obligated to have the Eternal Rose on at all times?

timid kindle
#

I am because of dedication, but she's herself so she kinda is the rose

mossy zinc
#

Lady Aphrodite? She can do whatever she pleases on her stream. 💕

timid kindle
#

I drew Aphrodite once but I got to a point in the drawing where I was too tired to keep going because it took a lot of willpower niceDFLmndfsdljfmkn

halcyon flame
#

hey nyaa i went by aphrodite's request, so can you like tell her not to send 15 damage hearts my way 💕

timid kindle
#

why didn't you chooose her

edgy arrow
#

Nyaanyaa doesn’t know what you’re talking about because she’s literally never chosen Aphrodite second

bronze viper
#

Lmao but really though. Not picking Aphro in Trials is big ballsy play

edgy arrow
#

actually true

timid kindle
#

nyaanyaa who are you

edgy arrow
#

that heart is like a shifter flamewheel

bronze viper
#

You can't even deflect it

edgy arrow
#

always where you least expect it

bronze viper
#

I assume you can shield it though because shield

halcyon flame
#

a slow shifter flame wheel that's also really annoying

#

you can shield it

mossy zinc
halcyon flame
#

that's persephone

timid kindle
#

if I see Aphrodite vs. Artemis in a room together I literally just avoid it, I can't do it.,., I'd be betraying everything I stand for

true fable
#

its good in some situations

edgy arrow
#

you can indeed shield it

true fable
#

but not all

edgy arrow
#

because shield

true fable
#

but sometimes

#

you use the special

#

and it works

edgy arrow
#

yus

#

bright agrees with me

true fable
#

and it encourages you to use it in places you shouldnt

edgy arrow
#

i’m not crazy

solar maple
#

yeah I now use it like twice per run instead of 0

halcyon flame
#

beo special is almost useless unless you're actually doing a sepcial build

true fable
#

you should really use it in like 5% niche scenarios

edgy arrow
#

almost being the operative word

true fable
#

but after it works once your brain wants you to use it again

edgy arrow
#

it’s sometimes useful

true fable
#

and thats where you go wrong

edgy arrow
#

okay that’s true lol

solar maple
#

I only use it in tart for low health things far away and eyes in ely which decide to go out of bounds

true fable
#

you hit two witches with a special and then youre like

#

"oh i bet i could do that again"

edgy arrow
#

“that enemy’s nearly dead i’ll just special it— oh, it’s not dead, i’ll just special it again— oh..”

true fable
#

spoiler alert lightning never strikes the same place twice

dire steppe
#

i was going to deadicate a run but i havent playred hades

bronze viper
#

lmao the tag

#

Such stance wow

edgy arrow
#

you’ve been in this community for a long time for someone who’s never played hades

ripe crane
dire steppe
#

yeah i just like to talk big game

shy plinth
#

Why are you hating on chiron tho

true fable
dire steppe
#

it sucks

true fable
#

because chiron is slow, boring and dumb

solar maple
shy plinth
#

But how does rigged know if he's never played

bronze viper
#

It's that bad

true fable
#

i cant wait to take a nap between my attack and special

halcyon flame
#

rama is also slow but we're not ready for that conversation 👀

true fable
#

rama is very fast lol

shy plinth
#

Nah it's slow, that's why you need merciful end and repulse shot

true fable
#

even based on src times which arent the end all be all

bronze viper
dire steppe
#

i havent played hades since courtney told me to

#

in the past i hades play haved

solar maple
#

raME raME raME

edgy arrow
#

Tail did 50 in like 12 minutes pretty sure rama is fast lol

true fable
#

^

#

lapis also has a 7:15 on rama

#

anyheat

#

it fast

shy plinth
#

Have you all not seen the meme

true fable
#

and tail has an 8:3x 40 heat

shy plinth
true fable
#

lili's post?

#

yeah lmao

shy plinth
#

Yes

solar maple
#

tail's 40 heat rama is faster than my any heat rama 😦

dire steppe
#

rama > chi > ron

shy plinth
#

What did Ron do

dire steppe
#

alcohol destroys communities

bronze viper
#

just like Chiron

dire steppe
#

no it doesnt

#

you dont take js3 with chiron

#

rama destroys communities

mossy zinc
#

Chiron best bow. 💕

dire steppe
#

nyaanyaa worst player

halcyon flame
#

confirmed

edgy arrow
dire steppe
#

name 1 chiron clear above like 4 heat

edgy arrow
#

this is best guide i’ve ever read in my life

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completely changed my view of rama

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eye opening

halcyon flame
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i think i just suddenly began to use 75% of my brain after reading that

edgy arrow
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“boons are very important for a fast run” lmaooo

bright mango
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I hope that was sarcastic

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Lmao

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The guide

dire steppe
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chiron s tier

halcyon flame
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"yeah so you wanna get merciful end"

edgy arrow
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the best part about this is how it reads exactly like a serious guide by someone who doesn’t understand the game at all

halcyon flame
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on rama

bronze viper
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That guide would make an excellent challenge category for next month lmao

halcyon flame
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do they expect you to use dash to proc ME??

edgy arrow
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he knows the game real well

bright mango
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Yeah ik

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That’s why I was like huhhhhhhhh

edgy arrow
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so what i’m saying is it’s 100% serious legit guide

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definitely follow the advice

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and remember: boons are important for a fast run

bronze viper
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It uses real english and parseable game logic and everything

halcyon flame
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how often does lili actually play rama?

bronze viper
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He wrote the guide

gaunt fiber
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As much as me imo

halcyon flame
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Abyssal Blood for the extra safety

chilly sun
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still struggling with 32 heat spear oooghhh girl help

halcyon flame
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this has to be satirical i refuse to believe this is a serious guide

gaunt fiber
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Sup percy

halcyon flame
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Infernal Soul your cast is a big part of your damage since Rama damage is quite weak

edgy arrow
halcyon flame
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achilles hunting blades is the way to go for 32 heat spear

solar maple
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it's serious. After reading It I managed to kill a numbskull on 64 heat on my first try

gaunt fiber
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Have you checked the guide from Schad in pins?

dire steppe
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you didn't question the "you need Exposed debuff for an ME build"?

mossy zinc
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It's a serious guide with good advice. Prove me wrong by making @daring hedge write a better guide.

halcyon flame
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just paint everything with shared suffering

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fire

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win

chilly sun
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im just terrible with it. but i can try!

bright mango
bronze viper
bright mango
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With hades spear

halcyon flame
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Abyssal Blood
Stubborn Defiance
High Confidence

solar maple
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you need the extra damage

edgy arrow
halcyon flame
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which way do you wanna go, high confidence or low confidence

bronze viper
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I feel bad when new players enter the channel when we're in full meme mode lol

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Must be quite confusing

chilly sun
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ill look into these, thank you!

solar maple
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yeah we are memeing

edgy arrow
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um wait

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what have i done

chilly sun
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also i wouldnt call myself new ive beaten arthur 40 heat ewnfjrjfrjf

dire steppe
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I heard Tailesque is releasing the guide on monday. I already sold my wife and divorced my house so I could have a screening of the guide release. If he cancels I will never be able to financially recover from this.

halcyon flame
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"FO2 is the way to go" 😭

dire steppe
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it says FO-2

solar maple
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it is

dire steppe
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not FO2

chilly sun
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< unironically takes FO2

solar maple
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always FO2

bronze viper
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No, but you did come to the channel for advice. It's a dangerous road to follow any of it when we're in peak form lol

halcyon flame
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i never realized until now that fo2 was actually free heat with rama

chilly sun
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DJEJJKFJEIFJIRJFJIRJFR thats fair!!! have fun yall :]

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and ill look into the serious guide, thank you sm!!

dire steppe
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i would unironically take FO-2 for -6 heat

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imagine how easy the game would be LMAO

bronze viper
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We behave most of the time ❤️

bright mango
chilly sun
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thinkinh about the time i posted dionysus arthur

halcyon flame
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yeah jury summons is also really bad with rama

bright mango
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Ooh that was my first 32

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Dio rama

chilly sun
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dio rama is great

daring hedge
chilly sun
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unfortunately i meant dio arthur

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WE SUMMONED THEM

edgy arrow
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pls help lili said take high confidence on rama but i’m not confident at all because of its low damage

daring hedge
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what is this memery

bright mango
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LMAO

mossy zinc
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m not one of those people.

dire steppe
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March's challenge? ExcaliBRRRR. Rules: 32 heat, must start Drunken Strike on Arthur, must take FO2

chilly sun
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youre just built different

dire steppe
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what do yall think of that

gaunt fiber
chilly sun
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I WOULD UNIRONICALLY LOVE THAT HELP

halcyon flame
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"You should take abyssal blood for safety and high confidence for the damage. You should also take stubborn defiance because you'll die a lot"

chilly sun
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just gotta gamble for that hermemes attack speed

mossy zinc
edgy arrow
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so anyway, can Tail just sense people being wrong about rama or what

mossy zinc
chilly sun
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anyway this is a really nice breath of fresh air because,,, some stuff is going down in my friend group so yea

mossy zinc
gaunt fiber
edgy arrow
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ah that makes sense lol

bronze viper
halcyon flame
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smh everyone knows tailesque can smell you talking smack about rama