h1-high-heat-strategies

[shy gulch]

its alright without anything else but like tail said, when u add things like HL and FO it becomes a nightmare

let alone with TD3

[plain shuttle]

EM4 is harder than EM1-3 combined

[shy gulch]

p much

[plain shuttle]

I havent got a single EM4 win even with no other heat

it's hard AF

[shy gulch]

retrash is the only person ive actually seen do it super consistently at high heat across many different weapons and aspects

[rich basin]

I'm streaming my EM4 run atm if anyone wants to watch?

oh wait nevermind

no voice chat channels in here eh

lol

[static plover]

phase 3 alone is worth the 4 heat imo

[gentle bridge]

you can throw your twitch channel on #self-promotion @rich basin

[rich basin]

oh I don't stream on Twitch lol

and damn I just had some bad luck

literally had 80%+ dodge chance and got hit by 7 mino spins in a row

bye bye death standing

alright back at styx lol

My last few boons betrayed me

:/

[brittle sierra]

Can some of you post your mirrors and @ me? I'm looking for ideas

[tidal flame]

For what purpose?

[daring hedge]

ideas pertaining to what exactly

[brittle sierra]

I'm just curious to what's being used. And trying to see what mostly used in which slots/combos

But i guess it changes depending on which punishment you're running

Since you run SD on the no heal one and so forth

[tidal flame]

I think weapon aspect affects mirror more than pact

[brittle sierra]

Yah, you right

Don't @ me :p

[tidal flame]

Some are kinda fixed though

Like backstab damage is good

Double dash is good

[brittle sierra]

And shadow power heal

[daring hedge]

the big ones that most people run at high heat include things like dark foresight, shadow presence, greater reflex except on gilgamesh

boiling blood for extra damage, which is especially desirable with tight deadline

[shy plinth]

Persuasion is pretty locked

Can't remember anyone running authority in recent memory

[daring hedge]

yeah, that's also true

authority isn't really used at high heat

[brittle sierra]

Ahh. I'm running authority

Switch over I guess

[tidal flame]

I used to run authority alot

[shy plinth]

Most high heat mirrors I see are bottom 4 green and top x red

Healing talent is kinda not a thing at high heat anyway

Oh except stubborn defiance obv

[tidal flame]

Authority vs Persuasion on high heat is affected by RI4

[daring hedge]

a lot of us prefer god's pride to olympian legacy actually

[tidal flame]

If you don't have RI4 either is fine tbh

[daring hedge]

since AP makes gunning for duos/legendaries harder

[shy plinth]

Ah yeah

That's probs more of a thing at 45-50+

But yeah def true

[honest kernel]

Any heat speedruns also run God's Pride, for the most part

[shy plinth]

I guess pride vs legacy is actually kinda close in a number of contexts

[tidal flame]

Pride is Epic chance right?

[honest kernel]

Because Epic Hermes boons are great, on top of the general power boost of Epic boons

[shy plinth]

Yeah

[honest kernel]

Yeah

[shy plinth]

Epics vs Duos

[daring hedge]

yeah this is hugely important

hermes boons have a lesser chance of being rare+ overall iirc

so this helps with that

[tidal flame]

Yeah I haven't seen a high heat run aiming for duos and legendaries in forever

[shy plinth]

That's a good call on hermes boons

[honest kernel]

Unless you really want to gun for duos and legendaries, God's Pride will be better more often than not

[tidal flame]

People used to find ME on fists

But since Divine Dash change, lol

[honest kernel]

Even on Merciful End speedruns you run God's Pride

[shy plinth]

Gross

[brittle sierra]

This is cool. I kinda felt like fated kinda sucked, but it's just what we got. Didn't know other one was so much better.

[honest kernel]

Because Epic Ares Attack is that good

[daring hedge]

persuasion is amazing

[shy plinth]

Big doom

[honest kernel]

And you want to gun for Rush Delivery

[brittle sierra]

I'll check it out next run

[honest kernel]

Authority I found to be the best if I wanted to force a god pool

Otherwise, Persuasion is just way more consistent

[brittle sierra]

And that rerolls the boons?

[honest kernel]

Yes

[brittle sierra]

That's pretty hot. Can it reroll the hammer?

[daring hedge]

you can also reroll pom upgrades and purging pool selection, well items

[honest kernel]

On top of the Purge shon and the Charon well

Hammers aren't rerollable

[brittle sierra]

Ahh

Ohh nice on charon/purge

I tend to avoid charon more and save for buying stuff in Styx

Like the blood/diamond

[shy plinth]

Speedrunners reroll well items a lot

[honest kernel]

^

[shy plinth]

Buying/refilling the well/buying more

[honest kernel]

Especially on cast weapons

Braids and Bloodstones are huge

[shy plinth]

Braid is nuts

I don't know if it's still meta but there was a strat with taking hourglass for elysium

[honest kernel]

It's not always the pick

But it's pretty common nowadays for speedruns

[shy plinth]

Yeah

Boosting the well items for elysium and for styx

[honest kernel]

If you get a good well before entering Elysium

Otherwise, you tend to see Accorn/Sigil of the Dead/Third god keepsake

[true fable]

yeah taking it in elysium is still sick

because you can just purchase before you reequip in styx

and the dad keepsake really gets most of its value vs the big fella

and other bosses n such

[tidal flame]

What do people take for Styx?

Sigil still?

[honest kernel]

That or Accorn

I do skull earing because I can lol, but it's rare

Otherwise it's kinda whatever

[gentle bridge]

i almost got another 40 run again. everything feels a lot more doable once you've won a run

choked at phase two boss, dad laser clipped me

[tidal flame]

sick mate

[spiral drum]

How exactly does heat work?

Lets say I've one weapon that cleared everything except styx with 0 heat, should I play that run until i get it or should I begin heat alr

[onyx venture]

Clear the run before adding heat to a weapon, generally

[spiral drum]

if you clear a run with 2 heat before 1 heat, do you get 1 heat reward or 2

[onyx venture]

You only get rewards for the lowest uncompleted heat, and skipping heat levels just gives rewards as if you only increased by one

[spiral drum]

ah ok

so it'd just give you the bare minimum?

[onyx venture]

Yes

[gentle bridge]

hadesprof is such a god gamer. getting 50 heat hestia and hera wins back to back (he just posted the hera run an hour ago)

huh, splash dash sure puts a lotta work in high heat

[vital grove]

What did he have on Hera cast?

On 50 heat

[daring hedge]

Hopefully something better than true shot which is what I had to work with lmao

[shy gulch]

how did u make that work LOL

[daring hedge]

TD2 and sheer force of will

[gentle bridge]

he.. .didnt even hav any cast in tart

[daring hedge]

I mean that doesn't sound horrible, you don't need that extra damage very badly in tartarus

[gentle bridge]

so umm

he still didnt have any casts by lernie

just god gamer things

[daring hedge]

Splash dash and shackle seems good to me, actually

[gentle bridge]

he got pos cast at chamber 30. shackle and splash dash did most of the work

[daring hedge]

My hera 50 was similar in the sense that cast wasn't a big factor at all for most of the run; most of my damage came from ares attack lol

[vital grove]

Lol

Well shackle does sound pretty decent

You load up a loooot of damage on that attack

Base cast is 300 with shackle for all 3 stones

[gentle bridge]

he was ri2

[daring hedge]

As was I

I also started with shackle, it's a good plan really

Especially with AP2 involved

[vital grove]

AP2 is trollface.exe

[gentle bridge]

he was stygian i mean. interesting

[true fable]

hadesprofessor just asked me about the mom pom start lmao

[vital grove]

Why would you ever go Stygian on Hera

You have that sweet -5 second drop built in

[waxen relic]

except for bosses stuff is dead anyway once you lodge 3 casts

[vital grove]

I don't see the advantage in having 1 stone over 3 on hera

[shy gulch]

less downtime i guess?

[true fable]

yeah thats a headscratcher from me

IDK

[daring hedge]

Kinda considering going for 52 hera soon, which shouldn't be that bad as long as I can get a better cast than true shot

And probably run shackle and play a worse zag bow

[gentle bridge]

im thinking since he just finished hestia, he kinda forgot?

but he did check his mirror beforehand

[true fable]

nah it seems intentional

[vital grove]

It's not really a worse Zag bow because the shackle cast is better than a crit and is on demand whenever you have the ammo

[daring hedge]

I meant in terms of the attack alone

I was half joking

[gentle bridge]

then its probably cause collecting bloodstone would be troublesome

[true fable]

i'll ask him about it when he goes online in a few

[vital grove]

Is it you? I thought it was Astaos

[solemn pulsar]

Stygian over infernal offers one fewer hermes boon and disables lightning Rod, as far as why you’d run it in certain scenarios

[keen aurora]

Hi everyone! I'm a bit confused as to what exactly high heat means? Could someone explain to me please? :o

Not sure if that's something that comes after finishing the game once?

[true fable]

this is my favorite thing

that heat is a spoiler in #h1-for-new-players but is also just in a channel title

LMAO

[gaunt fiber]

Yes, run away from here since it's spoiler heavy

[keen aurora]

Oh WHOOPS BJFKS THANK YOU GUYS

I'm gonna yeet out of here xD

[gaunt fiber]

be careful about #h1-builds-and-combat too

[keen aurora]

Thanks for the head up

[sly remnant]

so hell mode grind strats. i think its conch shell every time with golden touch and bouldie (when i get him) spam in tartarus yea?

then coin purse in asphodel. finish the regions with just things that are helpful or you want grinded?

[gaunt fiber]

Hard reset for premium vintage

[topaz tangle]

Wait, so if no-ones beaten heat 64 yet how do we know that when you beat it Hera and Hephaestus don’t just pop out of an urn like “yo where have you been?”

[sly remnant]

i know you are meme'ing but i legitimately take dio every time i see him for premium vintage

the conch shell is for oceans bounty

[gaunt fiber]

I'm half meming

[sly remnant]

if they hid them in the code they did a very good job

[gaunt fiber]

Since there's not special dialogue for first run clear, I can't imagine something for 64 unfortunately

[topaz tangle]

Has the source code been leaked?

[sly remnant]

nah you can go read it now

game is almost entirely written in lua

[topaz tangle]

Ah yes, the Hawaiian dance/coding language, luau

[solemn pulsar]

no special dialogue for first run clear is kinda sad

[topaz tangle]

I don’t know enough about supergiant games to know whether or not they would hide something like that (or more likely some small nod to them) behind an insane difficulty

[solemn pulsar]

they really don't intend anyone to go past 32

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah, there's no achievement for that too

beside the masterpiece ofc

[solemn pulsar]

you can see how many people they thought would even get to the epilogue, since that's really just a couple pieces of (very nice) art instead of like a party scene with 3d models and interacting with all the gods

vs reaching the credits

[gaunt fiber]

yeah

That's fair tho

[solemn pulsar]

like a voice line for max heat from hades would be neat, since that's low effort, but more than that for something realistically nobody will ever hit

though i'm sure someone will get it eventually, at least routed

[sly remnant]

its definitely possible routed

[solemn pulsar]

which means it's technically possible unseeded

just unlikely

[sly remnant]

honestly baj shield has the best chance at doing unseeded

[solemn pulsar]

is there any healing at all?

or is it really you and 50 HP + skelly tooth vs the world

[sly remnant]

p sure its

[solemn pulsar]

can you even get athena DDs? probably not

[sly remnant]

if you lose tooth you could

[solemn pulsar]

do we know for sure it comes with RI4? it might not

[sly remnant]

oh crap

i think you are right

[solemn pulsar]

centaur hearts are technically healing then

and darkness rooms

[sly remnant]

see with routed you could do chaos egg light of ixion shenanigans

[solemn pulsar]

yeah i imagine that's the way

you basically just need to buy enough time to kill bosses while hiding and not getting hit

on TD3

[sly remnant]

well

chaos light skips

you'll have time

[solemn pulsar]

yeah that's what I'm saying

[alpine sleet]

uh I don't know where to ask this but what weapon do you think are best for speedrunning? rather then high heat

[sly remnant]

https://discord.gg/FBEMdXbm

thats the speedrunning discord. in general tho eris is agreed to be the best

[alpine sleet]

o ty

[zinc tiger]

gonna do a heat 2 (both on damage control) run with fists

what aspect should i run

[sly remnant]

demeter generally regarded as the best, but def play whatever you like

[alpine sleet]

isn't ||gilgamesh|| also pretty good?

[vernal hatch]

the attacks are hella slow, and it has long animations in general

[sly remnant]

you can spoiler in here

gilgamesh is just the dash damage aspect (splash normally)

[zinc tiger]

any tips on fighting extreme measures annoying guy and minotaur?

[honest kernel]

Whats high heat?

Can somebody tell me pls? ;-;

[sly remnant]

any heat you are struggling with

[sly remnant]

minotaur is the priority. stay near pillars to bait mino charge into them. ignore theseus

[zinc tiger]

ah so same tactic

what's their new abilities?

[sly remnant]

don't go to the middle of the room. thats a death trap

[zinc tiger]

ah so always the sides?

or the edges

rather

[sly remnant]

theseus rides a chariot with a turret and launches bombs in the sky that explode on impact. mino does normal swings but also does a ballerine pirouette and a charge that make him way harder. if he starts spinning you just need to run away

[zinc tiger]

ah alright ty

wish me luck

[rain sedge]

tyler gave you the PC answer, but generally in this channel we talk about 32+ heats

most people here have done 50ish

[honest kernel]

Oh, i'm kinda new... I wanted to know what "heat" in general is

I didnt beat the end boss yet

[sly remnant]

you should probably avoid this channel

until you get at least one run

[honest kernel]

Oh ok

[sly remnant]

just spoiler reasons and such

[zinc tiger]

my god its so ahrd

theseus and minotaur beat hades in difficulty imo

[sly remnant]

have you done EM4?

[honest kernel]

^

[zinc tiger]

nope

[rain sedge]

maybe the title of this channel should put that first, considering this channel is very spoiler heavy

"Spoiler-heavy channel for endgame discussion" or somethin

[vernal hatch]

it does say "spoilers allowed" in the description

[sly remnant]

i had not read the description of this channel until you said that

[vernal hatch]

heroes is fine once you get accustomed to it, its just that hits are some of the most punishing in the game when youre first starting their EM version

[tame mist]

what keepsake(s) should i use for heat 32 with eris rail?

[rain sedge]

zeus to get your lightning strike in tartarus, and if you don't have athena by tartarus, owl pendant to get the divine dash and extra DD

either skelly tooth or acorn for elysium, then acorn for styx

or you can just be a chad and run skull earring since it's eris

[tame mist]

ok thanks

yea true

also about my call which would i pick

cuz i usually go athena's aid

[sly remnant]

aid fine. honestly all of the calls in a normal eris run are fine

[rain sedge]

you kinda aren't picky about calls tbh

I only actively avoid ares but that's it. demeter isnt great, aphro isn't great for rooms but great for bosses, the rest is fine

[tame mist]

ok also is BP2 gonna be a problem

[tidal flame]

It can be

Sometimes you get bad combinations

[tame mist]

ok

also DD over poseidon dash right?

[tidal flame]

How is that a possible choice you have to make?

[sly remnant]

divine dash is a good way to learn

[tidal flame]

Ohhh Divine Dash

[sly remnant]

i suspect we've overrated divine dash for awhile tho

[tame mist]

what did you think i meant?

[tidal flame]

Death Defiance

[tame mist]

oh lol

imagine that

damn cluster bomb is rlly good against JS

[rain sedge]

divine dash is very good in eris

because you dash-attack often

poseidon dash no longer qualifies you for sea storm, so the value goes down a LOT

because then you need 2 poseidon boons (which you can't sell for UC), AND fish for sea storm

it's just a lot of luck, meanwhile you could've had a divine dash and 2 DD by then for the same number of boons

[alpine sleet]

in the pinned messages, it mentions smt about jolted core but I can't seem to find what it is

[tame mist]

wait but last run i had sea storm and poseidon dash

[alpine sleet]

is it for like the demeter zues duo boon?

[rain sedge]

it's just a lot of luck
as I said.

[rain sedge]

"core" here refers to your core boons that is needed to make your build work, so basically just lightning strike and the jolted boon from zeus

maybe I should make it clearer

[alpine sleet]

ah alr lmao

so it's like saying "x and x boons are core"

gotcha

[tame mist]

k guys u know the dionysis boon that makes fountains restore full hp, does it work with LC4?

[sly remnant]

no

[tame mist]

k

[rain sedge]

it says so in the description too

[spring kettle]

I think it still buffs your damage but it won't heal you anymore

[rain sedge]

uh, what did people find out about patty's HP per room thing? that doesn't work right?

[lusty mirage]

yeah strong drink still gives the %dmg boost

[stiff aurora]

I have artemis special and aphro attack on chiron and I have one roll. I don't have heart rend yet. Do I take the unhealthy fication I just got offered or do I roll?

should not have rolled lol

[gaunt fiber]

Rolling Aphrodite's legendary

[stiff aurora]

I was dealing negative damage

[rain sedge]

thinking aphro legendary is useful

sounds like a nya cult thing

[gaunt fiber]

Adiós, Schad

It's been a pleasure

[rain sedge]

monkaGIGA

[daring hedge]

okay time to finally put up the mirrorless 50 heat lol

[stiff aurora]

I still can't get my 32 heat done lol

maybe I should not try jumping from 16ish to 32

[rain sedge]

did you check the pinned guide? might help

[stiff aurora]

I did. I can't reliably do TD3 yet, so I turned up some other stuff. The best I've gotten so far was ~50% phase 2 hades, so I am not that far off

[sly remnant]

if you got there you'll get it

[stiff aurora]

I've never even gotten to thesius today, lol

but I need something to work towards and the only other thing I've got so far is doing the steam achievment where you have to max all the keepsakes

[rain sedge]

that's really close tbh

what's your build/weapon/pact, maybe we can help

[stiff aurora]

I'm using chiron, I'm switching the special between demeter, artemis and dio

the build should not be too much of a problem if my rng works

[rain sedge]

so are you having problem dealing damage, or staying alive?

and what's your pact? chiron can be a bit finnicky with pacts

and yeah, for sure you can just wish for really good RNG and get relentless and concentrated volley and you'll clear it for sure

[daring hedge]

i've found chiron is actually pretty flexible with pacts

[stiff aurora]

I don't recall everything I took right now, I've been switching it around a bit

any way to check in game?

[rain sedge]

boon screen should show heat

[stiff aurora]

hl3, lc4, cf2, em3, bp1, mm, uc, fo1, dc2, td3 right now

[rain sedge]

hmm yeah, that's basically what I'll do too

[sly remnant]

turn off fo1 Dc2 for HL5 bp2 imo

[rain sedge]

I mean I might take BP2 but I don't think that's the problem

ok im not gonna fight the DC2 battle today but either should work

[sly remnant]

dc2 is fine as well

[rain sedge]

turning off FO1 is a good shout tbh

[stiff aurora]

dc2 with chiron is pretty much free

I would rather not take td3

[rain sedge]

if you find EM3 hard, I'd take tyler's advice and swap FO1 with BP2

[stiff aurora]

em is fine

[rain sedge]

hmmm ok

[daring hedge]

yeah i'd just go BP2 here and take heat off elsewhere

[rain sedge]

are you doing the usual heart rend build?

and are you running dark foresight?

[stiff aurora]

either that or low tolerance

[daring hedge]

if you can handle BP1, you can probably handle BP2

[rain sedge]

agree with king, BP2 isnt the hardest 3 heat

well there are some combo that's just really bad but... yeah

[daring hedge]

exactly

[rain sedge]

I don't think dio special is something beginners should try

[daring hedge]

most of the time it's not so bad, but you will sometimes get a nightmare combo

[sly remnant]

dio special is safe tho

[rain sedge]

I think you're better off with demeter (if you wanna survive, but it's slow so turn off TD3) or artemis (heart rend)

idk... it's not the best for beginners right?

[gaunt fiber]

I'll always remember that cloner seeker witches room 2 that ended my GY streak. Serrated point room 1.

[sly remnant]

but i like heart rend too

[rain sedge]

I got speeder +attack chariots at elysium at 50

that was fun

[daring hedge]

you can even run deadly flourish deadly reversal if your attack is divine strike and you net divine dash as well

artemis on special is just very good and very flexible

[rain sedge]

OR

you can just run heart rend AND deadly reversal

wait lemme find that screenshot of me proving the haters in this channel wrong

[daring hedge]

the biggest brain strategy is just getting all the duos 5head

[stiff aurora]

dio is prohably my favourite thing on chiron so far

[gaunt fiber]

A screenshot won't stop haters from hating, you can believe me on that

[rain sedge]

ok I can't find the screenshot, I managed to get deadly reversal and heart rend, by re-selling the attack

[tidal flame]

Can confirm

[rain sedge]

and divine dash

[daring hedge]

same with videos

[tidal flame]

Am hater, still hating

[gaunt fiber]

^

[rain sedge]

your youtube crowd are uh, "special" though

[tidal flame]

Did you know that Perfect Shot are better than Twin Shot?

[rain sedge]

idk how someone like tail can get so many haters

[daring hedge]

a big plus to twitch versus youtube is i don't have to deal with nearly as much aimless spite lmao

[tidal flame]

Also never sell your boons, especially when running shackle

[rain sedge]

or you can be hadesprofessor and stream both in youtube and twitch lmao

[daring hedge]

i think if i post something with a claim as definitive as "WR" even if it actually is, it's inevitable i'm going to attract some unsavory comments or people who just don't like that

[gaunt fiber]

You know the strat you mentioned about Chiron

Hadesprofessor actually does that for his fun 32 runs

[rain sedge]

the man is NOT a source of build

[gaunt fiber]

What

[rain sedge]

man I'm still trying to forget his eris 50

[daring hedge]

he ran plume at 50 lol

he's wild

[rain sedge]

makes me look like a real fool

[daring hedge]

much respect though

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah but

[tidal flame]

Does he stream on Facebook Gaming?

[rain sedge]

ok, ok, ok

it's like

[gaunt fiber]

His gilga strat tho

[rain sedge]

imagine if you go to retrash for build and aspect advice

that's basically the same

[gaunt fiber]

He said that he was studying the game a lot in terms of build

[daring hedge]

what was hadesprof's gilga strat astaos

[stiff aurora]

greater evasion is better than swift strike on chiron, right?

[daring hedge]

yes, very

swift strike only works for standing attacks

not dash-strikes

[rain sedge]

EXCUSE ME WHAT

oh no no no no no no

[daring hedge]

swift strike is straight up bad on bow

[gaunt fiber]

Curse of longing passion dash only special because attack too slow

[rain sedge]

so when I pick + attack speed on eris

[tidal flame]

[daring hedge]

what in the world

[rain sedge]

it doesnt work for dash attacks?

[tidal flame]

Did he actually make it?

[gaunt fiber]

That was amazing to watch dude

[rain sedge]

and for fists?

[tidal flame]

Because that looks jank as hell

[daring hedge]

i mean for eris since you're not only doing dash-strikes, i imagine it's fine

[gaunt fiber]

It was 50+ but AP2

[daring hedge]

but since with bow that's all you want to be doing... it's not good

[gaunt fiber]

Nah it works

[daring hedge]

maim is good, just risky

rending claws is legitimately a very good hammer for gilga if you can utilize maim enough

[gaunt fiber]

Spam dash to spread weak, special, profit

Ares on attack anyway tho

[stiff aurora]

yay I got ares. Now I just need to get his vengance and the duo and I'll have low tolearance and curse of nausea

works every time

[rain sedge]

well, this is the first time I hear that dash strikes dont work with hermes speed boons

I'm guessing it's the same with dash-specials?

[daring hedge]

probably but i haven't tested that

[stiff aurora]

fml I had 3 duos and died to timer

[tidal flame]

RNG giveth RNG taketh

[stiff aurora]

too bad I can't do em4 with all the other stuff I have on. I did it before but not with fo and hl

[true fable]

i think he posted that one on the sheet

if youre wondering how it turned out

seems pretty dece

[daring hedge]

nice, will def check it out

[dire steppe]

mfw curse of longing actually has a use

i thought it just made you longer

[daring hedge]

spoilers: my mirrorless 50 had CoL

[true fable]

yeah its not something ive thought about very much

but on gilga it makes sense

since you want some sort of set it and forget it type damage

along with maim

[stiff aurora]

I used it with chiron a few times. It kinda works, but you really want enough doom scaling that you might as well not take it and be completly fine

[true fable]

tailesque when are you putting some 32 and 40 heat times on the board

[daring hedge]

it's also worthless if you're applying the doom semi-regularly because it refreshes the full doom potency each time

oh yeah i still need to do those post-board-wipe

[true fable]

indeed

just do 1-2 runs and im sure youll end up with something

[stiff aurora]

yeah taking athena attack and abusing merciful end is way better and still sucks on chiron

[true fable]

LOL

[warm osprey]

what are your guys' favorite aspects

[proud jay]

getting a good time at 32/40 can take a while

[true fable]

beowulf

[dire steppe]

getting a good time at 32/40 is not a good time

if you catch my drift

[true fable]

yeah 40 especially is taking me a bit

[daring hedge]

thanthink moment

[warm osprey]

mine is prolly hera

[true fable]

never before has tartarus felt so fast while being so slow

[warm osprey]

but hestia is the one im best at cuz I can cheese bosses

[true fable]

i'll kill furies and feel like it went pretty well then i look at timer and its like 3 mins

🤷

[daring hedge]

dunno if i can replicate the almost sub-9 40 heat again but i can try

and probably get kinda close

[true fable]

yeah that was nuts

you didnt use sigil either did you

[daring hedge]

nope

[true fable]

so literally nothings changed lol

[daring hedge]

yeah lol, literally just formalities from the wipe

it would have gone over the same now

[true fable]

nice

love to see it

[rain sedge]

oh your 32 best time got beaten bright

and 40

I suppose I can give it some try

[true fable]

yeah lol

both in the same day

when i went home for new years and couldnt compete

[stiff aurora]

do I purge athena dash or aphro attack? I have curse of nausea so my damage should be fine but I'd lose my chance for low tolerance

[true fable]

what weapon?

[stiff aurora]

chiron

[true fable]

third option?

[stiff aurora]

special

[true fable]

can you roll?/do you want to roll?

[stiff aurora]

no

[true fable]

dang yeah id sell attack or CoN

what heat is this on?

[stiff aurora]

32

[true fable]

where are all your boons lol

are you running CF2?

[stiff aurora]

yes

[true fable]

ah

[stiff aurora]

it's at the beginning of elysium so there would be a decent chance for getting low tolerance too

oh well

[true fable]

yeah i dont generally recommend CF2 for that reason

its kind of a ton of boons you miss out on

[sly remnant]

CF2 stinky

[vital grove]

Trial room Athena greatshields with Speeder and savior in a group of 4 😎

[sly remnant]

i always take athena first in high heat runs. she'll slow you down too much otherwise

[vital grove]

Was using Zag bow

[mossy zinc]

CF2 RI2 can leave you with no money for the end-of-biome shop in Tartarus, easily.

[true fable]

i'll sometimes see first 32s where they finish with like 6-7 boons

and be confused

then see CF2/UC

[sly remnant]

i mean i used to think CF2 was free heat

[true fable]

and its like ah cool

[sly remnant]

i was wrong

my first 32 was CF2 UC AP1

i was

not smart

i'm still not smart

but i've listened to people smarter than me

[daring hedge]

[proud jay]

those gave me some trouble during winstreak runs

[stiff aurora]

flamewheels with speeder with chiron suck lol

[daring hedge]

for flamewheels including BP variants, just hug walls and gaps

and dash across them constantly

[proud jay]

dashing is usually the way to deal with flamewheels yeah

[rain sedge]

CF2 is easier than other heat for your first 32 don't @ me

[stiff aurora]

I was out and died lol

[dire steppe]

AP2 is good for 32 imo

[mossy zinc]

CF2 is good. AP2 is not.

[sly remnant]

some aspects this is true

[dire steppe]

Because then you play on 27 heat and the game is so easy that you don’t need the boons anyway

[sly remnant]

like CF2 hestia is perfectly fine at 32

[mossy zinc]

Yeah just play on RI4 LC4 because then you play on 20 Heat and the game is free anyway.

[proud jay]

hestia doesn't really need many boons

[stiff aurora]

I think I'll try switching cf2 for cf1 js1. js is going to be a pain with chiron but whatever

[dire steppe]

precisely

[sly remnant]

i just don't think CF2 is a one-size fits all pact and we used to kinda treat it as such

[proud jay]

CF2 is more okay if you don't struggle in elysium/styx

[stiff aurora]

yeah I only had one boon that I would not have minded to loose at the time

[true fable]

bablo did you get those headphones yet

[daring hedge]

shackle is great and CF2 makes it even more tantalizing at higher heat

[sly remnant]

yep. shackle aspects are great with CF2

[gaunt fiber]

I know about Zeus icd and such

But what about Serrated point lightning strike?

The dash strike is rather "slow", it's not chiron special

[daring hedge]

icd doesn't exist on lightning strike

[gaunt fiber]

oh

nice

[daring hedge]

only thunder flourish

[gaunt fiber]

Thanks

[stiff aurora]

I managed to die to random tartarus mobs, I think I'm done for the day

[true fable]

yeah serrated lightning strike was my zag spear clear on 40

[true fable]

tart mobs are harder than the entirety of styx

no joke

[daring hedge]

i agree with that only if you manage to only face minibosses

high heat normal styx ends can be rough

[true fable]

hmm

i suppose so

i feel like its usually not too bad, other than the fact that it means i'll die to timer

[daring hedge]

BP snakestones from several angles in end rooms where there's very little cover, etc.

[true fable]

"cover" imagine not having portable cover

[daring hedge]

personal liability also makes this even scarier with hell mode

okay fine

[true fable]

otherwise known as a shield

LOL

[vital grove]

Shield can't block front and back tho

[true fable]

thats a good point though

[stiff aurora]

it can if you tunr fast enough

[true fable]

your positioning can block the back

you block the front

[vital grove]

You can't out speed lasers that are already on you

[true fable]

dont position in the middle of a group of enemies

[stiff aurora]

try harder

[true fable]

good rule to follow from tart> end

[vital grove]

I don't need to try something that isn't possible

[daring hedge]

i mostly have problems with the one styx end room that's a massive pit in the middle that snakestones like to hang out in

and some will stagger outside and it's just obnoxious to deal with on JS3 etc

[true fable]

yeah i get that

[sly remnant]

the pit styx room

[true fable]

also the traps are set up very conveniently

[sly remnant]

is an effin nightmare

[true fable]

to behead you if you walk on one

[daring hedge]

"just don't run heightened security" -amir

imagine taking off that one heat and putting it into CP instead

couldn't be me

[true fable]

nope

this time i will simply not step on that trap 🤡

[sly remnant]

don't attack me like this bright

[stiff aurora]

I ran HS once for the prophecy, never again

[daring hedge]

coaching sessions where i remind you to stop stepping on traps

i can't even say that as a joke i have been stepping on so many traps lately

[sly remnant]

"just powershot" - tail coaching haelian

[waxen relic]

Not running HS feels like intending to step on traps

[stiff aurora]

does saying EM4 is easier than HS count as a hot take or is that commonly accepted?

[mossy zinc]

HS is way easier.

[stiff aurora]

I never played either with any relevant heat combinations, but I feel like it is easier to get a random oneshot from HS

[gaunt fiber]

Well

EM4 is a bit less random

[shy gulch]

HS is random in the fact that you might die in a weird spot

EM4 is not random in the fact that you WILL die to superdad

[wind remnant]

Yo, any Hades aspect specialists here willing to give some advice for 32 heat?

[solemn pulsar]

you also can't really compare them since EM4 is 4 heat and HS is 1 heat

[waxen relic]

Check Pins

[daring hedge]

sure

is there anything you're having trouble with in particular

[wind remnant]

Mainly trying to mix in the special into my combos. I always end up going attack only and I feel like there’s something I’m missing.

[daring hedge]

nah, that's actually very normal

special isn't super worth it on hades aspect unless you get exploding launcher

[frank sierra]

oh tailesque

i saw ur vids, u are literally rama haha

[true fable]

hades aspect

[daring hedge]

now i know who the one dislike was on the hades 52 upload

[frank sierra]

i think i dont understan the spear weapon tbh

[true fable]

i would never

but yeah just not my weapon

[daring hedge]

lmao

[true fable]

were all tryna make it go fast right now

[wind remnant]

Any other tips that might not be obvious to novice spear users, Tail? For spear in general, not just Hades. I figured out dash-spinning (or whatever the technical term is) the other day and I think I can see myself becoming a dedicated spear user.

[true fable]

and its painful

[daring hedge]

oh i see

yeah it seems like bablo is the one person who can make it go fast

[true fable]

dash spinning is huge

yeah the rest of us have to grind for sub9

[daring hedge]

yeah, like bright said, dash-spinning is a great step. it's invaluable

and with hades aspect in particular, spinning is a very viable source of constant aoe damage with continuous dash-spins to reposition and keep yourself safe

[true fable]

you have iframes during the dash spin btw

[gaunt fiber]

Spear user good

[true fable]

make sure youre getting the most out of your backstabs on hades

astaos are you joining us in the GY speed grind

[wind remnant]

Cool cool. Any decent builds that might not be super obv at first? I’ve mostly been playing it safe with Heart Rend/Deadly Reversal.

[gaunt fiber]

Maybe

[waxen relic]

Normal Attack having slightly more damage than Dash-Strikes is one thing i could think of for novice Spear

[daring hedge]

serrated point and flurry jab open a lot more options

of course only the former is available for hades aspect

[true fable]

heart rend is a bit weird because theres no great way to apply it

unless you take passion dash

[daring hedge]

you can run drunken strike or lightning strike with serrated and have it work surprisingly well

[true fable]

which means you dont have hunter

[daring hedge]

and there's a niche hammer tech where you can pair charged skewer with exploding launcher, but only if you get skewer first

but it's very powerful if you get that online

[true fable]

its such mediocre payoff for that niche of a setup haha

[wind remnant]

@true fable That’s why I was asking about the special at first. I’ve been going Aphro on special and Arty on attack. A little awkward but seems to work, at least for mid-20s heat.

[true fable]

i got it on strim yesterday and was like yeah itll be sick

and it was ok

[daring hedge]

i wouldn't call +150% boosted charged exploding specials mediocre

[true fable]

it was all right

cant complain too much

[daring hedge]

smh

[true fable]

feels like the way they wanted people to play spear was to apply something with attack and finish with special

but the spec is so awkward

[gaunt fiber]

You had tempest flourish

and it was a lot still

[true fable]

hey look we needed mirage for the HB value

two blades

[gaunt fiber]

I mean

[true fable]

in one

[daring hedge]

but yeah special is generally not worth the trouble unless you get exploding launcher, for zag and hades aspects

[gaunt fiber]

charged skewer tempest flourish is fun

especially with more poseidon

[true fable]

for achilles/gy the special is just different

[daring hedge]

achilles is comfortable running any useful status on special because you actually use it a lot

and you have iframes for the rush

[true fable]

do we know when you have i frames

[dry flame]

hi tail

[true fable]

or is it just a feel thing

[daring hedge]

i was messing around with it in styx versus satyrs and it feels very, very generous actually

[honest kernel]

I find that pressing Attack instead of Special will retrieve the spear faster after employing it

[daring hedge]

you can spam special right as the projectile is about to hit you and you'll be fine even if it seems like it would be too late

[true fable]

pretty neat

[frank sierra]

What aspects best for high heat?

And what to avoid

[daring hedge]

hey!

[dry flame]

avoid arthur lol

[true fable]

rama good

sword stinky

send tweet

[dry flame]

i love the sword and ill stick by it

but its hard asf on high heats

[true fable]

oh me too

its just very hard since 60-70% of hammers brick your run

[frank sierra]

I hate Arthur, too slow

[daring hedge]

yeah sword is actually good for high heat honestly, in terms of damage

it's the safety that can be an issue

[dry flame]

yeah dmg

i usually end up dying if i dont get athena dash

[daring hedge]

and hammers true lol

[true fable]

yeah nem can still so DC2/JS3/TD3 with utter trash boons

[dry flame]

first time i tried doing 50 heat with arthur

[true fable]

which is pretty impressive

[dry flame]

i died to TD against meg lol

twas hilarious

eris is pretty easy imo @frank sierra

[frank sierra]

I'm a hipster tho

[dry flame]

ok then use dem fists

build ME

[true fable]

hestia is fantastic for high heat

[frank sierra]

Ahh

[true fable]

for some reference i have some 300 odd hours on beowulf and some 30 hours on hestia

[frank sierra]

I like lucifer aspect

[true fable]

both produce similar results at 50

[frank sierra]

Zeus aspect

Ohhh

[true fable]

lucifer can be good

zeus shield is quite good for high heat but takes a bit of brain power

lucifer just isnt the safest weapon

[frank sierra]

Oh

[true fable]

you have to have a lot of self control since you dont have i frames if you keep attacking while dashing

[dry flame]

if u like lucifer just use eris

its literally better luci

[stiff aurora]

But eris has no laser so it's clearly worse

[frank sierra]

Ahh

[dry flame]

TRUE

[spice dagger]

In general what should I spend my titan blood on and what are the easiest heat options

[dry flame]

no laster = stinky

[frank sierra]

I like the special of lucifer

[true fable]

check the pins

the special is sick

deadly flourish + triple bomb is 👌

[dry flame]

^^^

love that combo

i like rocket bomb + deadly flourish too

[wind remnant]

@true fable Oh boy, don’t even get me started on Hestia. I was listening to a podcast where Edelweiss was talking about using it with Merciful End. Sounded interesting so I tried it, only 15 heat to start because I’ve only used it once or twice before. Lost a DD to a damn bone raker of all things and died to EM3 champions. It’s so sloooow.

[dry flame]

obv not on luci but

[true fable]

dont use merciful end on hestia lmao

that is about the least syngergistic duo + aspect combo i can think of

[wind remnant]

Maybe I misheard her, I dunno. It sounded fishy but I figured hey, she’s supposed to be the master of Hestia.

Oh my bad, I just realized I meant Deadly Reversal. Whoops.

I don’t know why I always get those two mixed up.

[true fable]

yeah DR is fine

i think heart rend is "optimal"

DR is kind of awkward to apply if you dont have rocket bomb

or the dash

[green citrus]

Came in here to say hello, I run high heat Arthur so hit me on the DM if you want advice.

[warm osprey]

Whats ur highest heat arthur run

[green citrus]

40 currently

But I'm going to go for 50 pretty soon, was running 40 heat for speed

[wind remnant]

Jeez. I’m sitting here all smug about a 24. What sort of pact config are you running?

[green citrus]

I run HL and LC maxed. CF2, EM3, BP2, MM, UC, FO2, AP1, and TD3

[sly remnant]

fo2 on 40 heat arthur

you mad man

i guess when you are speedrunning you don't have a choice

[green citrus]

It's definitely the toughest part of the pact for me but if I got FO1 that heat has to go into something that slows me down.

[sly remnant]

nah its the right call for sure

you got a video of the run?

[green citrus]

Yusss, haven't clipped it yet lol. When I do I'll put it in here and submit it on the board. I had a 12:26 but just passed it like 10 minutes ago lol

[sly remnant]

we have a high heat spreadsheet pinned as well

you can submit your 32+ runs there

[green citrus]

Oh nice

I gotta run and do work stuff but I'll be back this evening and load it up.

[gaunt fiber]

Oh yeah I saw you talking about Arthur speedruns on a stream

pog

[vital grove]

I did a 36 heat Fo2 Arthur lately but it's not 40 and it's hardly a speed run lmao

[honest kernel]

Can anyone help me choose pacts for a heat 32 run

[vital grove]

Sure

What ere you comfortable with

[rain sedge]

advice is pinned if it's your first 32

[honest kernel]

I pretty much just dislike the timer

I tried 2 runs so far and didn’t get too far

Definitely dislike the timer a lot

[stiff aurora]

do you mean the 5 minutes one or overall?

[honest kernel]

Overall

I think 9 minutes could work

[rain sedge]

what's your current highest heat?

[honest kernel]

My current highest was 25

I literally only want to unlock the statue

[vital grove]

Do BP2 MM UC TD1 AP1 CF1 and then add a bit more

EM3 of course

[dire steppe]

if you want to do something just to get the statue, you can do a high luck low skill requirement build

achilles hunting blades or eris splitting bolt

[vital grove]

Td2 is really helpful to have tho

[dire steppe]

or any weapon + merciful end

[vital grove]

28 minutes you gotta do it

[rain sedge]

every day I go to this channel just to find different people dissing eris

[wind remnant]

Hera with Trippy Shot works great too.

[honest kernel]

Lmao

[rain sedge]

I thought you were my friend rigged, now you call eris low skill 😦

[dire steppe]

i said low skill requirement

eris 32 is just hold down attack and occasionally press special once you get splitting bolt

eris on 45+ is definitely not low skill

[shy plinth]

Eris has a high performance floor

Less effort/experience is required to get a good result

[dire steppe]

compared to what

[shy plinth]

Beo, Rama

[dire steppe]

oh that’s what you mean

[shy plinth]

Yes

I'm agreeing with you lol

[dire steppe]

i would call that a low floor

because low skill is required

[shy plinth]

Low floor = low performance

High floor = high performance

Floor is the worst you can do with it, so a high floor is good

[honest kernel]

I am using the chaos shield since I feel way too squishy with my bow

[wind remnant]

Chaos is a good choice. Great base for a hangover build, and can do really well with crits.

[rain sedge]

chaos is one of the slower weapons, might be why you struggle with TD

[honest kernel]

Very likely

Maybe I should stick to my bow

[rain sedge]

chiron is pretty free at 32

@true fable how much slower is trial rooms at 40/32 heat? I'm speedrunning but I also dont wanna die

[true fable]

it's pretty slow

you also should never take a trial if than/fountain is still in the pool

only do trials if its a late ely trial and youve already exhausted all your potential free rooms

[rain sedge]

I see, thanks

I had a 5 min ashpodel at 40 but the elysium mob spawns kinda killed my run

I didnt record anyway so no biggie

[true fable]

also for those who care about that sort of stuff the IGT autosplitter is fixed

[mossy zinc]

I've had 4:30 Asphodel before and died in Elysium.

[true fable]

so you can keep track of your splits

have you tried getting gud

god that felt good to type

[mossy zinc]

No.

I just ask for patches.

[shy plinth]

Nyaa, you might want to try using the spin attack

It actually heals you

Not sure if you've tried that

[mossy zinc]

Demeter Aspect has a spin attack?

[shy plinth]

Yes you have to do down, back, down-back, fierce kick

[gaunt fiber]

You have to spin yourself but yes it does

[mossy zinc]

Getting Tatsumaki Senpukyaku vibes from this.

[shy plinth]

Big spins

[gaunt fiber]

I don't have any Ken or Ryu emote to picture this

[mossy zinc]

Good. I hate shoto.

[rain sedge]

what is this even

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah I think I know now

[rain sedge]

also, I have been offered vengeful mood with holy shield. That means... every 3s... I get a holy shield right?

and how long does that thing last? this is poteentially very good right

[true fable]

its ok

i run into it a lot on chaos shield

[gaunt fiber]

big damage

[true fable]

for some reason ive gotten vengeful mood like 50% of the time i use chaos shield

[rain sedge]

11:56 at 40 heat with 2 sac

that's pretty bad, right

[honest kernel]

Ok that’s it I give up

[true fable]

nah thats pretty dece

[honest kernel]

I JUST WANT THIS STUPID STATUE

[shy plinth]

The jump from 25 to 32 is larger than it seems

You're gonna have to prep a lot and try a bunch of diff options

[rain sedge]

hmm, would've been fourth on a very empty leaderboard

[true fable]

yeah

[rain sedge]

I suppose I'll set up stream to record

[true fable]

its hard to tell what times are decent until bablo/tail return to the category

[rain sedge]

that run did have LITERALLY 1 zeus boon all run though

don't tempt tail

let him barrel roll baj on the 62, not us

[vital grove]

Aspect of Baj is so fun

[sly remnant]

maybe i give up on this hell mode thing

[vital grove]

Just got a PB on 24 heat with 3 sack lol

[sly remnant]

and go back to running 32s

and 40s

[rain sedge]

speedrun 32 with us tyler

I'm doing 40 right now

your weapon is fast too

let's goooo

[sly remnant]

nah if i do it

[dire steppe]

aphrodite’s VA wanted the statue and got it on her first try on stream

[sly remnant]

i'm gonna go for all aspects sub 10 at 32

[shy plinth]

Courtney is a boss tho

[dire steppe]

that’s why you always start eternal rose

to get courtney’s blessing

+10% ambiguity bonus

[weak mesa]

Hey guys! I'm relatively new to higher heats and I was wondering: is it worth it to start a hell mode save just for the heat from personal liability?

I'm trying to go the highest I can

[gaunt fiber]

wow

[rain sedge]

didnt nya do all aspect sub 12

[daring hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654076105321480226/795789852343926824/20210104170411_1.jpg kinda sloppy and no patty etc. but i'll take it

[gaunt fiber]

it was not 32

[rain sedge]

NOOOOOOOO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE @true fable

Look at this

[true fable]

jesus tail

LMAO

[rain sedge]

IM LITERALLY MID RUN MAN

[sly remnant]

how's it feel to actually pick your boon?

[true fable]

are you gonna join the speed discord

or just flex on us from afar

[rain sedge]

I told you bright, I told you

[daring hedge]

oh lol i guess i should yeah

[sly remnant]

Pog

[true fable]

do you need the inv

[daring hedge]

god yes

i mean good

[sly remnant]

i think so yea

[daring hedge]

oh yeah thanks

[rain sedge]

I have lost motivation to finish this 40 speedrun

[true fable]

https://discord.gg/jrCte54q

i guess for anyone else who is doing speed sstuff

[sly remnant]

p sure sub 10 should be meta for 32s

[rain sedge]

GJ tail, I was quite happy with this run 😦

[true fable]

sub 10 is meta, sub 9 is competitive i think

[sly remnant]

for 32?

[daring hedge]

you can still be happy with your run ok

[sly remnant]

i mean across aspects

[true fable]

no its literally impossible

[sly remnant]

i'm not going for the overall record

[true fable]

if someone else gets a better time than you you are not allowed to be happy

that is why i have felt empty since wriste beat my beowulf time

[sly remnant]

that beo run was one in a million bright

and wriste practically invented beo

[gaunt fiber]

[rain sedge]

I was going for the record, 10 min is unbeatable I think

are you gonna do 32 speedrun foxman?

[sly remnant]

on 40 heat? i'm p sure 10 min is beatable with eris

[rain sedge]

the current WR is 11 min

[daring hedge]

10 is very beatable for 40 heat

my best is almost sub 9

[dire steppe]

tail didn’t get patty so that would have been sub 10 already if he did

[daring hedge]

but that was before the board reset

[sly remnant]

i'm not saying its easy

just beatable

[true fable]

i know lol

i am also 100% joking

honestly havent had this much fun playing this game in a little bit

[gaunt fiber]

Taking back my peepogivelove

[true fable]

just doing whatever im feelin atm

[sly remnant]

yea mb i just stop pushing heat for a bit

just vibe at 32 and 40

[rain sedge]

1. I'm so stupid, I took the athena boon that give +% HP on DD

so I can't use skull earring

2. can someone help me with the maths on euridyce's option?

bright, you said rarity only affects the base % right

so wouldn't it mean it's almost always more worth to put pom?

since first pom is usually as big as the rarity increase?

or am I wrong

[wind remnant]

You’ve gotta keep in mind that there are boons that can’t be pommed. Stuff like Life Affirmation or literally any of Hermes' boons.

[mossy zinc]

Rarity upgrade is better than a first pom on almost everything. Plus, you can get more poms, but you can't really get more rarity upgrades.

[atomic ember]

hadnt thought of it like that

[rain sedge]

uh you can't sell DD boons right?

from athena?

on the pool?

[rain sedge]

and thanks nya

[mossy zinc]

Right.

[rain sedge]

ok damn I'm super stuck on selling great boons then

[true fable]

pom porridge is still most of the time the correct choice

its 4 poms

thats kind of a lot

rarity can be good if theres a good chance it hits hermes boons

or something like flat damage that scales well with rarity boost

[gaunt fiber]

rarity for pretty colors

[solemn pulsar]

purple good

red good

[limpid osprey]

Is it a good idea to try always using certain Conditions, so you get used to them?

Like Middle Management and each level of Extreme Measures in turn?

[mossy zinc]

Sure if your goal is getting used to them.

[limpid osprey]

My goal is to work my way through all the Bounties

[gaunt fiber]

I would advise to try combos of conditions instead of the conditions themselves

EM4 alone is nothing, same for FO2 etc

[limpid osprey]

I'm past the point where I can only take one Condition for most of my weapons

And I already got the Harsh Conditions prophecy fulfilled

[gaunt fiber]

You can go further even if your bounty is still low

[rain sedge]

damn I have died

must be one of my worst 40 played

was 12 mins pace anyway

maybe 32 is easier?

nvm the WR is sub 9

that's faster than my anyheat lol

[gaunt fiber]

So you'd pick the easiest category?

[limpid osprey]

Even on bad runs, I tend to make it to the Champions. But I still occasionally lose a DD to EM1, so I'm reluctant to use EM2 just yet

[gaunt fiber]

Nvm just remembered you're an Eris main

[limpid osprey]

That reminds me: does Dark Thirst affect Dark Regeneration?

[rain sedge]

@mossy zinc look at what you have brought up

[pine tide]

It does

and it's good

[limpid osprey]

I always take the weapon with Darker Thirst. I wasn't sure if it had in-run significance, though

[mossy zinc]

I see nothing wrong here. Carry on.

[true fable]

you did good

👏

[gaunt fiber]

Thanks people

[rain sedge]

you did NOT do good

you damn nerd

[gaunt fiber]

[true fable]

schad

im watching rn

first wondering where your mic is

second

[rain sedge]

look man

I just dont wanna reset

[true fable]

wondering why youre taking fricken thunder flourish

on eris rail

are you sure youre an eris player

[rain sedge]

ok it's AP1 RI2

I can't roll

[true fable]

are you sure

[rain sedge]

I dont wanna reset

and I got tidal dash next room so

I thought I'd just go with it

I might get to ashpodel

ok

also I'm not watching chat so y

[true fable]

gbye

[rain sedge]

told you I'd made it

[royal wagon]

going for a 32 heat chaos shield build, merciful end with doom on the attack and hope for athena dash?

[green citrus]

Just saw the Tail 10:12. Guess I gotta improve my 40 heat PB by a whole minute now. 🙂

[mossy zinc]

@green citrus there's a link to the submission form in the spreadsheet.

You don't need edit access.

[green citrus]

Oh boy my fault, thanks!

[mossy zinc]

Sure. Anything that doesn't time you out works.

[royal wagon]

I haven't played too much since 1.0, chaos shield is still fine ya?

[rain sedge]

I can't tell if you're trolling, or I'm stupid and it actually works

[true fable]

i feel the same way lol

@green citrus now you see what we deal with

[green citrus]

Honestly lol