h1-high-heat-strategies

[rain sedge]

well it's motivated by the fact that cyberpunk isn't gonna be playable until january the earliest

so I'm gonna go on with hades and valhalla for now

[gaunt fiber]

Let's be clear Schad

You ain't escaping

[rain sedge]

also since my friend is already gone for christmas and I missed the window to borrow her PS4 to play crash 4

[honest kernel]

I tried

It sucked me right in immediatly

[rain sedge]

nah, I don't play GY exclusively, I escape all the time

[honest kernel]

Addiction's too strong

[gaunt fiber]

Hey

[rain sedge]

[gaunt fiber]

I escape a lot lately

[honest kernel]

Oh wait are we talking about winning in the game

Or like, escaping this game's community

[gaunt fiber]

At first the game's community

Schad is bringing the winning thing

[honest kernel]

Yeah ok

[gaunt fiber]

Success rate low anyway

[rain sedge]

I'm just ticking "daily astaos bully" off my todo, don't mind me

I mean the reason I play this game is because of this channel

community's nice

the actual things I can do in the game is already finished a long time ago

I might parse the game audio and listen to all the conversations I've missed but that's it

[honest kernel]

Oh yeah I'm done too for all that the game itself encourages you to do myself

And honestly, I don't know where that high heat push craze came from

In fact, I was here since the "Welcome to Hell" update came around, why did it take so long ?

Was I just that busy screwing around with the different weapons/boons/updates ?

Or what

That kind of passion usually doesn't kick in after I've done something for a while, it's usually pre-set in advance

It's weird

Either way, probably will do more 59 heat attempts tomorrow.
Today I'll simply look out to do something else

[mossy zinc]

I do that on Talos.

[honest kernel]

Yeah ok you went super far in the log lmao

[gaunt fiber]

this should not be a thing

[honest kernel]

Makes sense tho, since the Magnetic debuff gives +50% attack

Works well with crits

[mossy zinc]

Also Support Fire, Mirage Shot, Hunting Blades, Crystal Clarity, Lightning Rod. Good routes from there.

[honest kernel]

So you start with Artemis attack then ?

Or is it something you pick up in Asphodel or naturally after the cast

[mossy zinc]

Still undecided if Deadly Strike or Flood Shot is the better start.

[honest kernel]

Hmm

[gaunt fiber]

I play talos quite a lot

it's Flood shot

[honest kernel]

When I play fists I do Demeter

don't play with Talos often, outside of Curse of Drowning

[vapid lotus]

I want to ask for any tips for getting past the hydra in asphodel but I'm just I see yall are busy and don't want to interupt 😅

[gaunt fiber]

Ask in #h1-builds-and-combat

I'll help

[vapid lotus]

Okay- ty

[mossy zinc]

Stream should be easier on your drive than recording unless you do both, obviously.

[gaunt fiber]

Hey that's true

you don't call me psycho or anything like that

[mossy zinc]

If you scale down, that's super-sampling. Should look better. Need more VRAM, though.

Why does this channel always talk about me when m asleep.

[gaunt fiber]

You're actually reading everything

[gaunt fiber]

Because I exist

[mossy zinc]

m so popular.

[mossy zinc]

Why you taking credit for my fame?

The people love me.

[gaunt fiber]

Sure thing

Alright let's break that winstreak

[gentle bridge]

whats a good 32 heat setup for a first time high heat run?

planning on using either chiron bow or nem sword

[mossy zinc]

HL5 LC4 CF2 EM3 BP2 MM UC TD3.

[gentle bridge]

aight, will try it now. thanks @mossy zinc

[mossy zinc]

Stubborn Defiance.

[rain sedge]

Hades didn't win best roguelike at pcgamer

That's a super WeirdChamp

[mossy zinc]

Wut.

[gentle bridge]

oh man, td3, huh. thatll be the challenge

[rain sedge]

Heat and advice btw for your first 32 #h1-high-heat-strategies message

[mossy zinc]

For Chiron, start with Eternal Rose for Heartbreak Strike and pick up Deadly Flourish or Drunken Flourish in Tartarus. Then go for the respective Duo Boon.

If you can't get either in Tartarus, take the Arrowhead in Asphodel for Deadly Flourish.

DPS in Tartarus mainly comes from your Attack because enemies die so fast.

[gentle bridge]

alright, just died in asphodel. its rouuuuuuuuuuugh. i love it.

td3 is making me hurry and make bad movement

[gaunt fiber]

https://imgur.com/Zqin9XR

this build won

thanks Zeus

[honest kernel]

The one and only myth

Fully Loaded

[gaunt fiber]

4 streaks broken by witches room 2

hammer was serrated room 1

I hate

my life

[sly remnant]

This channel was so wholesome while I was sleeping

[honest kernel]

i just realized the korean player commented the timestamp when tail appeared on the yt replay

"He appeared"

according to google translate lol

[mossy zinc]

lol

[sly remnant]

man

imma have to pull an all-nighter one night and catch his stream

sounds like it was a great time

also bright and tail achieving senpai status

[honest kernel]

T'was quite the event

Also that pin

[sly remnant]

thank you for the pin

man it was so wholesome its inspired me to grind 40 heat EM4 all day

[mossy zinc]

Putting FO1 and DC2 as "core" just seems like really bad advice at 32.

[solemn pulsar]

I think given that Eris/Chiron are recommended that they make sense. DC is almost irrelevant with those weapons, and FO1 is much more forgiving with ranged attacks/hitstun

[mossy zinc]

DC matters quite a bit on Chiron.

[honest kernel]

DC is awful on chiron

[fathom cloud]

I agree

[solemn pulsar]

? the DC is gone after the first hit of the first special. Is the concern that the enemy still moves through the attack shot?

or the damage loss from the attack

[mossy zinc]

FO is not more forgiving on ranged aspects. It's the other way around. Melee handles enemies coming close a lot better. Ranged aspects want enemies at range not enemies that rush you down.

[fathom cloud]

FO really really sucks on Arthur though, that was what drove me to turn it off

[mossy zinc]

I think people are tripping thinking DC doesn't matter on Chiron. The DPS drop from losing practically all of your Attack damage on so many enemies is huge. Without DC, you can power-shoot your way through Tartarus faster than if you focus on your Special.

[solemn pulsar]

yeah but this is for an easy clear, not fast clears

if you're trying to clear 32 heat for the first time, you might not be perfect with power shots

[honest kernel]

the deadline though

[fathom cloud]

Hot take: AP1 wasn't that bad

[mossy zinc]

You don't need to be perfect.

[solemn pulsar]

if anything i disagree with TD3 in core

[mossy zinc]

[toxic token]

In chiron you are trying to oneshot enemies. You can't be sticking with one enemy much time I made the same mistake. While a weapon like fists dosen't have a prob with DC since you just spam your combo until you finish the enemies

[solemn pulsar]

with TD3, someone trying to clear 32 heat for the first time may not have cleared below 20 minutes at all, let alone under higher heat circumstances

I think that one is definitely flexible with people's playstyles/prefrenecs, so not super "core" necessarily

[onyx venture]

I pinned the post because it's been referenced several times, and because Schad did say that they were open to revision from more experienced players but none corrected the post at the time. Please feel free to ping Schad to edit the post if you think it is misleading, or provide your own revised and consensus-approved version to replace it

[mossy zinc]

They gotta step up their game for 32 either way. TD3 is just a DPS check.

[honest kernel]

Well, it is just a general suggestion

[fathom cloud]

I'd say TD3 encourages a lot of damage trading when people don't have their rotations / safety down. With a more lax deadline people can play it safer by a significant margin.

[mossy zinc]

Referenced like 99% by Schad I think lol.

[fathom cloud]

From TD3 -> 2, I no longer felt pressured to go ham all the time and would be a lot safer during fights. Speaking as a 32 casul.

[solemn pulsar]

everyone knows the true way to add heat is to add one level from each thing, starting from the top, looping through until you hit your desired heat amount

[toxic token]

[solemn pulsar]

under that setup, 32 heat is HL2 LC2 CF2 JS2 EM2 CP2 BP2 MM UC FO1 HS RI1 DC1 AP1 TD1

[mossy zinc]

I can see TD2 being core and 3 optional. Though in my experience TD3 at 32 is just a matter of knowing the right builds for newer players.

[toxic token]

I'll name that "the easy way of doing heat so you don't have to think"

[solemn pulsar]

40 heat is that + FO2 RI2 DC2 AP2 (technically 41 but we can't break the rules)
50 adds TD2 (lmao) HL3 LC3 JS3 EM3 and CP3

[mossy zinc]

That's Eris.

[toxic token]

oh... yeah that's right... my title's too big

[rain sedge]

Whoa I went to work for a bit and this happened

I did preface the message with "in my opinion", and I wrote this somewhat detailed message because I think it'll be good for people to have a bit more detailed advice 🤷‍♂️

[gentle bridge]

been thinking of dropping td to 2 and removing FO and just putting it on others. even when i tried thme on chiron and eris, i feel like id rather risk HL or something else

although it might be just me lacking experience

[rain sedge]

also I wrote that when I'm even more of a casual than now

maybe I'll edit it and put the heats in tiers in terms of "easiest" "will be easier than others" "try this depending on your aspect and playstyle"

aaaand tidal dash no longer procs sea storm cool

[mossy zinc]

Yeah, I did recommend HL5 FO0. You'll take less damage than with HL0 FO2.

[rain sedge]

I usually go with HL2/HL3 and FO1

[gentle bridge]

yeah, im starting to prefer that. i should be able to dodge and kite better with ranged weapons anyway

[rain sedge]

also just for the record: I tested TD3 with all 24 aspects and it all worked, with plenty of time left too. I didn't even roll double edge for the swords

taking 3 free heat on TD3 just by optimising your game play is so much better than taking 3 extra heat from JS/CP/FO/HL that might kill you

[mossy zinc]

Yeah def recommend TD3 for 32.

[rain sedge]

im gonna remove the sea storm on eris since it's a real pain to get now and not worth for 32, especially for beginners

[gentle bridge]

alrighty ill just need to work on my aim then. mouse and keyboard gets rough for me when it gets frantic

[toxic token]

the fact that you spended time and effort to try helping other players alone is admirable even if some people find it somewhat wrong ofc and everyone has their opinion like me I can't do TD3 just because my own preference in games is playing without time limits even if it seems either for most

[rain sedge]

just trying to give back to the community that taught me a lot of things, like standing in the middle during dad laser and what starfox is

[mossy zinc]

Star Fox*

I mean that DC2 "core" is def Eris bias lol.

[rain sedge]

we have a very different playstyle on bow, and I believe beginners will use my playstyle more

DC2 on chiron is free

[mossy zinc]

32 is free.

[solemn pulsar]

just replace the recommended heat with "32 heat is free, get good lol"

[mossy zinc]

I think your pin should include RI4 Tempest Strike Guan Yu.

All the top Guan Yu players do it.

[rain sedge]

so just 2 of them

[mossy zinc]

Like I said.

All the top Guan Yu players.

[solemn pulsar]

two points make a line

that's enough for a trend

[mossy zinc]

It's meta.

[gaunt fiber]

Quick spiiiiiiiiiiin

I love this one.

Aphro call carrying my poor skills

pog

until 4 sack and death

I'm happy.

[mossy zinc]

@gaunt fiber git gud.

[gaunt fiber]

I feel like I'm almost gud at GY

[mossy zinc]

Almost.

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah

Still small mistakes

that kills ofc because I die in 2 hits

[mossy zinc]

The next best thing, but not quite me.

[gaunt fiber]

Lmao

Just read your meta analysis of GY

Quite accurate

[mossy zinc]

Thank you.

[gaunt fiber]

I changed my mind about winged serpent

It's not that bad

Especially in styx, even without quick spin

[mossy zinc]

Yeah, it's just not Quick Spin or Massive Spin.

[gaunt fiber]

I guess I could control the bounces in rooms

might work

but it's a lot of work

This aspect is so deep

and then there's Eris

idk

[mossy zinc]

Why control bounces when you can go for uncontrollable Poseidon bounces?

[rain sedge]

I've updated the 32 advice for new players, ping me if you have general advices for new players or disagree strongly with what I've said

[gaunt fiber]

I got the poseidon starting pack with my flourish

it was hilarious

[rain sedge]

remember it's for new players, so some things that are easy for the more experienced are hard for them

[gaunt fiber]

Frost spins, enemies pushed and so on

[rain sedge]

no RI4 trolls pls ❤️

[gaunt fiber]

I just want Aphrodite, Demeter, Zeus, Poseidon and Artemis in my runs.

Every time.

[mossy zinc]

@rain sedge as the Queen of Malphon, I assure you Talos shouldn't be on there.

[rain sedge]

it's 50% on PC right?

[mossy zinc]

Most people have no clue how to play Talos.

[rain sedge]

is it that bad on high heat? it felt not that different than demeter when I play it

hmmm ok

[gaunt fiber]

Honestly

[rain sedge]

I suppose talos is just a worse demeter than most people

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah nvm

[mossy zinc]

I cringe when I see Talos play most of the time.

[spring kettle]

It took me ages to realize it increased cast damage as well

[rain sedge]

I took it out, makes sense

probably should just funnel them to demeter instead of confusing them with 2 fist

[mossy zinc]

It's good, but it's not easiest to learn.

[rain sedge]

when I did my 32 I just special --> attack for bigger mobs and let chain lightning take care of smaller mobs

am I doing it right lol

[mossy zinc]

Excalibur should be on there for sure at 32 with a disclaimer to not take DC or FO.

[spring kettle]

Might make cold embrace viable?

cries in trying to complete duo prophecy and only missing duos with Demeter based on casts now

[mossy zinc]

@rain sedge depends somewhat on if you cancel your Special into Dash.

[fathom cloud]

Schad I love what you've done for the community, thank you - what I said were merely my opinions on what heats I found easier

[rain sedge]

I've added the DC and FO thing on there

I think those are the only 2 heats that are really variable per aspect

[gaunt fiber]

damn

[rain sedge]

Thanks, same here, it's just my opinion on what heats are easy

[gaunt fiber]

I need to do something for the community too

[rain sedge]

remember the time someone came here looking for aspect advice

and he did his first 32 with zag sword

with AP or something I think

[mossy zinc]

I would just put "Meg or Antos" for companion. Familiarity ends up mattering more at high heat. A lot of people will just whiff Meg lol.

[spring kettle]

Thanatos is too slow the one time I used him

[rain sedge]

yea I dont think thanatos is good advice for 32

[gaunt fiber]

What number shoud I aim for a GY 40 streak?

Just to say "see it's consistent"

[rain sedge]

have added it

[rain sedge]

5 should do it

[gaunt fiber]

Very funny

[rain sedge]

why

even bablo can't make it consistent

[gaunt fiber]

Oh you did not read?

[rain sedge]

what thing

[gaunt fiber]

I was at 4, then I got witched room 2

[rain sedge]

lol no

well 4 is consistent enough then

[gaunt fiber]

lmao

[gaunt fiber]

I won the run after the cursed one ofc

[rain sedge]

cool I think that's general and informative enough for new players that come here for 32

ping me if more changes

[mossy zinc]

Keepsake:

• Whatever god keepsake needed for your build in Tartarus and Asphodel, acorn/spearpoint/skelly in Elysium. Acorn in Styx, since 5 hits from Hades is more HP than what skelly/cerberus gives you.
  Whatever god keepsake needed for your build in Tartarus, Owl Pendant in Asphodel if you haven't already picked it in Tartarus.

[sly remnant]

aight so savior tough louts are difficult when combined with athena trial

[rain sedge]

idk about you, but if I don't get my secondary god on tartarus I'd pick it over athena there

[gaunt fiber]

From Schad guide to Nyaanyaa's

[rain sedge]

but let me add the owl pendant thing

[sly remnant]

i def think if you are playing shield owl in asphodel is incorrect

[mossy zinc]

DDs is never incorrect. It's just an alternate path.

[rain sedge]

you're opinionated, tell me if you have opinions on the newly pinend advice

[gaunt fiber]

I would not recommend Aphrodite/Demeter

[rain sedge]

I'm keeping that for sure

[gaunt fiber]

Would take time to chill everybody

[rain sedge]

it's more for bosses

[gaunt fiber]

Aphro let it be safe not demeter

[rain sedge]

insta 10 chill on bosses give you so much more leeway

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah I guess it's good for bosses

[rain sedge]

it's more of a "last resort if you really struggle"

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah

[rain sedge]

remember new players struggle in bosses more

like

[gaunt fiber]

Low damage too

[rain sedge]

when I started, chill on chiron was godsent

[gaunt fiber]

low damage is longer rooms and fights

[honest kernel]

Demeter's damage is mediocre

[sly remnant]

i think its fine. looks good to me

[honest kernel]

But not bad

For her boons

[rain sedge]

could fish for decay and the legendary, ravenous will

[gaunt fiber]

I guess

[rain sedge]

we're not saying it's optimal here, it's just the last resort for new players

I'm keeping it

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah I'm not against lol

[rain sedge]

@honest kernel you're basically king, lmk if you got more advices you wanna put in the pin

dont want to mislead people with my casualness

[gaunt fiber]

Since there is no "Don't pick GY", it can't be that bad

[rain sedge]

oooooo

I could add that

"Not recommended: only psychos pick Guan Yu. Ping @gaunt fiber for more details"

[gaunt fiber]

We are a bunch to play GY here

[honest kernel]

The one that jumps to me straight up is TD3

It's not just that you need to be fast : At that level, if you aren't super on point, sack rng will screw you

TD2 is much more appropriate, IMO

[gaunt fiber]

Beginners will struggle with that but you have to get good at some point

I mean

No heat in TD, where do you put it?

[honest kernel]

TD2 as a starting point is fine

[rain sedge]

yeah the problem is the core heat is only 19, so they need 13 more

[honest kernel]

TD3 is where it gets shaky

[rain sedge]

which is why I put the "easier" in quotes

[gaunt fiber]

But since Eris is recommended

TD3 is free right

[rain sedge]

I did get 4 sacced a lot during my 32 runs, I didn't feel anything was... super bad timer wise

I think there was one sword that I didnt get double edge and it was shaky

yeah, recommended weapon is eris

I'd take TD4 for that lol

[mossy zinc]

Losing to sack RNG requires less gitting gud than dealing with 3 Heat in something else.

[sly remnant]

i kinda agree with nyaanyaa

it is an awful player experience tho

[honest kernel]

There's also the argument to be made about Death Defiances over Stubborn Defiance

On how it can make a player play overall

[rain sedge]

I mean, if you ask whether it's easier for a new player to take 3 more HL and lose 60% of eHP compared to "if you get 4 sacced which is 1/8 time you lose" I think they pick the second one

[honest kernel]

Former's gonna make the player play safer than the latter

[sly remnant]

there's always the 3 DDs EM4 option

that was how i did 32 at firsst

[gaunt fiber]

Maybe you should add the simple tip about suiciding to heal from SD

dunno if it's here

[sly remnant]

with FO0 its pretty manageable

[honest kernel]

It's in the second post

[gaunt fiber]

oh ok

[mossy zinc]

I don't really get picking DDs or SD when RI4 is free heat.

[gaunt fiber]

I feel like EM4 is dangerous

even at FO0

[rain sedge]

definitely way harder for new players

[honest kernel]

EM4 at 32 ? nah

[rain sedge]

it's less about DD or SD, it's more about 4 heat from LC4

l,ike, I'm trying to keep the core heat small so people have flexibility, but if it's too small, they'll get confused and pick bad heat

[mossy zinc]

You can have 4 Heat from LC4 and 8 Heat from RI4.

It's a good core.

Less thinking about healing or finding Patroclus, too.

More thinking about gameplay.

It frees the mind.

[gaunt fiber]

^

Btw I'm a Clyclops jerky select gamer now

I wish it would last more than 10 encounters to have it against dad

[fathom cloud]

Hourglass new meta

[gaunt fiber]

pog

Actually

[rain sedge]

would it work? since it's not technically a charon well item

[gaunt fiber]

I don't think so

[mossy zinc]

No.

[gaunt fiber]

unfortunately

Just buff Jerky

Dark touch of styx is OP

lemme get that buff longer

[rain sedge]

oh god imagine

bone hourglass at elysium extends touch of styx dark

you dont even have to worry about sac anymore

(well, unless you run EM4)

[gaunt fiber]

Nah it would only affect jerky for balance purposes

[rain sedge]

BaLaNcE

[gaunt fiber]

like

[rain sedge]

have someone told amir that there's more build than those that relies on attack?

still confused why jerky only give attack bonus

[gaunt fiber]

"styx rooms are encounters but actually no"

[mossy zinc]

Touch of Styx Dark is just I'll help you when you're dead.

Thanks, but . . . I already died.

[gaunt fiber]

so you're saved

[spring kettle]

Tbf, there are other well items that affect special and cast

Patty just doesn’t offer those

[sly remnant]

god imagine a patty braid

[rain sedge]

still won't make casts viable at 40+ but cool

[sly remnant]

casts are fine until 45

[honest kernel]

I'd take a Patty chimaera jerky please

[rain sedge]

beo doesnt count as cast

[sly remnant]

?

how do you figure?

and talos is good too according to nyaanyaa

i trust her talos advice

[rain sedge]

well cast is more like

[sly remnant]

my 40 was pretty free

[rain sedge]

I cast my bloodstone, pew pew it goes somewhere, I pick it up

[mossy zinc]

Yeah, Talos is pretty good at 45.

[rain sedge]

beo is more like

[honest kernel]

I've almost done shackles 50 heat Demeter fists, I could see Talos being good

[rain sedge]

I put an ammunition into my portable nuclear bomb, boom it goes wherever I go

[gaunt fiber]

it's shield

and it explodes

it seems op

[honest kernel]

You are basically playing CS:GO but you are the one that plants the bomb

[sly remnant]

i mean i buy braids and stones, i get mirage shot, i get chaos cast buffs, i get poms

those are all staples of cast builds

[honest kernel]

And have a swat shield, somehow

[gaunt fiber]

and detonates it instantly

screw the timer you win

[honest kernel]

... actually a more apt comparaison would be a demoknight from TF2 that uses the Pool Caber

[sly remnant]

if only this were true at 50 PepeHands

[honest kernel]

And it crits each time

[gaunt fiber]

yeah unlucky

[rain sedge]

I'll use it to describe beowulf next time

[honest kernel]

Don't use that one, use the demoknight one please

[rain sedge]

TF2 is dead so we should deprecate all reference to it

[honest kernel]

That one actually uses a shield and charges into stuff to nuke 'em

[gaunt fiber]

yeah ngl that CSGO comparison only has the bomb lol

[honest kernel]

Brain took a leap and a half for that one lol

[gaunt fiber]

Did you sleep?

[honest kernel]

no

[gaunt fiber]

NICE

[honest kernel]

That might explain why

[gaunt fiber]

only 9-10 hours

you got this

[rain sedge]

I think this is the perfect time to do the 59 baj

[honest kernel]

It is absolutely NOT

[rain sedge]

great things happen when you don't sleep

[honest kernel]

I'm basically at the point

Where my brain's becoming a potato

That's when I usually stop playing

[mossy zinc]

That's when Eris players start playing.

[gaunt fiber]

^

[rain sedge]

bullying

[gentle bridge]

dang, i cant even get past tartarus consistently, even with eris. i have a lot of learn hahaha

[mossy zinc]

I think my first 32 took me like a week.

[honest kernel]

Real talk, Eris takes some getting used to before the autopilot kicks in

It won't save you from getting hit constantly

And I don't mean "autopilot" in a bad way

[gaunt fiber]

idk I played it 5-6 times at low heat then one shot 32

[honest kernel]

that 5-6 times is, to most players, still a bunch

[gaunt fiber]

well

lol

[rain sedge]

eris players know anything other than autopiloting?

[gaunt fiber]

I mean it's a rogue lite but I guess

[rain sedge]

what's your heat and build, I can help probably, I'm somewhat good with eris

[honest kernel]

I'm saying this because it's a risky weapon by nature, compared to say Bow, Spear or Shield

[rain sedge]

eris is risky compared to spear? damn

[honest kernel]

Going from those to Rail will take a bit of time to adjust

[honest kernel]

When starting out, I'd say yes

[mossy zinc]

I don't know if everything in the room dies in 3 seconds is inherently risky.

[gaunt fiber]

Risky for your fun

[rain sedge]

your existence is risky to my fun

[honest kernel]

When Eris isn't like maxed, it can take some time to actually kill later rooms

[gentle bridge]

HLmax LCmax EM3 BP1 MM UC FO1 TD3
zeus keepsake then get the attack asap

[mossy zinc]

I don't think we're talking non-maxed aspects.

[honest kernel]

Maxed aspect, yeah sure

[mossy zinc]

Do BP2 instead of FO.

[rain sedge]

HL2, DC2, and JS1 instead

DC is free on eris

it'll give you 60% more effective HP

[mossy zinc]

Tbh JS3 is also free on Eris.

[rain sedge]

do zeus keepsake for attack, aim for jolted, hope for legendary

and use owl pendant in asphodel so you get divine dash

and extra DD (see pinned post)

[gentle bridge]

alright, will try those. i also think i need to be better at timing the eris buff. sometimes when i special i dive str8 to an attack just for theh buff

[rain sedge]

4s is a decent time, take your time

TD3 is very lenient on eris

[gentle bridge]

holy crap i shouldve turned off attack at cursor all this time

[honest kernel]

With aim assist on, I suppose ?

It's a good change for playing Eris

[sly remnant]

Wait why turn off attack at cursor for eris?

[honest kernel]

So you can play more akin to controller

And just go guns blazing

Assuming aim assist is on

Since you don't have to re-position the cursor constantly when you dash over enemies

Can be a lot easier this way

[sly remnant]

Ah that makes sense

[gentle bridge]

yeah

it helped me a ton cause i can focus on kiting. i dont play on controller cause it hurts my thumbs a lot

[gentle bridge]

damnit. got to hades and clumsily dashed to a green vase

but attack at cursor off did make the difference

i feel a lot more confident taking on 32 heat now. thanks everyone 🙂

[rain sedge]

https://imgur.com/Pc7ZU3n

[mossy zinc]

I wanna see some numbers. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12_2L5sZGreuR-1MElSpPiVK6893SIq_oXp8AelLVvco/edit?usp=drivesdk

[true fable]

oh ima be awful

[solemn pulsar]

i was at 210 consistently for human benchmark

I am the median

bow before me

[true fable]

233ms

i told yall

young person with slow reactions thats me

[solemn pulsar]

233 is within monitor error of the median though

[true fable]

i appreciate it but i have a 144hz monitor

[solemn pulsar]

same

also keep in mind that the "average" that they collect is from people who use the website. I imagine people that go to a reaction time website is going to be a little self selecting for people with good reaction times already

[true fable]

are we supposed to submit these

lmao

i want my rightful place at 10+ on the reaction time PR

[dire steppe]

im 268 ms

after some practice i got it consistently a bit lower

[true fable]

that makes sense

priming n all that

[rain sedge]

mmmm having difficulty streaming to twitch using shadowplay

anyone here doing that?

[true fable]

nah

m not smart

strimmer download obs streamlabs and hit go live button

is it just for background recording?

[rain sedge]

looks like it works

wanna help me out test stuff for like 3 mins bright?

[true fable]

sure

[sly remnant]

i can hop in too

hit me with that link

[shy plinth]

Are you accounting for age

[mossy zinc]

What? No. I just wanna see response times.

[shy plinth]

Old people are slower

Source: Me

[mossy zinc]

Tough.

You're top 6 lol.

Top 3 requires a screenshot.

[shy plinth]

Don't we have to divide by 0.8

The other ones are

[mossy zinc]

No that's for the site I linked to before. The new link has accurate numbers.

[shy plinth]

Oh

[gaunt fiber]

Reaction time on this kind of website is kinda bs

[mossy zinc]

?

It gives you an accurate time of your response + input lag.

[gaunt fiber]

Just have to activate my bot skills to predict one

And there you go you're insane

[mossy zinc]

lol okay.

Just predict 5 random times in a row.

[gaunt fiber]

Why not

i'd say my reaction time is better in game tho

[mossy zinc]

[gaunt fiber]

When you have to lesser call a sweep or you're dead

I feel like it

[sly remnant]

i mean these reaction times are just fun benchmarks

they are indicative of almost nothing

[mossy zinc]

[gaunt fiber]

Nah it's just that reaction time alone is not enough

[sly remnant]

it might give you some idea of a person's reaction time but at some point it becomes about training for the benchmark instead of improving reaction time

they are fun to do tho

[mossy zinc]

Practice effect on simple response time tests is not very high.

[true fable]

well

hmm

[sly remnant]

sure but what is simple response test training? its not actively improving your skill in a game

[true fable]

there's something to be said for priming effect in game

i think astaos is right

but it's a fun thing to have

[sly remnant]

they are fun benchmarks but there are just too many external factors

[gaunt fiber]

Pin that

[mossy zinc]

I don't know what priming has to do with this lol.

Just take the test.

[true fable]

? priming applies whenever you do something multiple times lol

also i did

m slow

233ms

[gaunt fiber]

Mine is around 180

From aimlabs things a while ago

[shy plinth]

Guan Yu players move fast

[true fable]

dang

yea

[gaunt fiber]

Play fps

I was slow before that

Still am kinda

[true fable]

does OW count

or is it just a torture chamber

[gaunt fiber]

Hmm

[mossy zinc]

@true fable I already added you yes.

[true fable]

dont know whether to say thanks

LOL

[gaunt fiber]

Idk aiming in OW has nothing to do with slow fps

[mossy zinc]

180 is 🐢

[gaunt fiber]

180 is enough for 40 GY mirrorless

[mossy zinc]

🐢

[gaunt fiber]

But if it makes feel you better

Then nice

[mossy zinc]

How are you a bot with turtle reactions.

[true fable]

cross out the people complaining about GY on your weekly SGG bingo cards

i think you two are being summoned

[gaunt fiber]

I should write things down about GY

But there's too much to say

[true fable]

"try not to die" die

[gaunt fiber]

Mediocre healing lmao

[rain sedge]

so

PC people

[true fable]

theres ur GY quick start guide

[rain sedge]

does anyone play with controller and PC?

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah just 5 health bars through the run

[rain sedge]

because I'm losing the fidelity of the movement from PC, but would like to keep my mouse-special-aiming

[true fable]

like controller and mouse

or

just normal controller

[mossy zinc]

I think most people play on PC with pad.

At least here.

[true fable]

^

[rain sedge]

"pad"?

[gaunt fiber]

I use Q C V on my keyboard

Controller for the rest

[rain sedge]

hmmm

maybe I just need to get used to the keyboard movement

I'll hit skelly for a bit

[shy gulch]

wait astaos did u do 40 GY mirrorless?

[north dove]

when you're forced into an elysium hammer and it's flurry slash

[gaunt fiber]

Yes sir or madam

[shy gulch]

(sir) and damn thats impressive

i might try GY mirrorless

being able to put LC4 sounds really nice

[gaunt fiber]

You really should

[shy gulch]

the thing with hestia is that its a super good weapon but it kinda forces certain pacts

like u absolutely cannot take DC

[true fable]

is this on the dedge seed

[shy gulch]

so other pacts start to get tight

[north dove]

Ye

[gaunt fiber]

Forced into hammer oof

[rain sedge]

hmm

quite hard to make the transition to PC

I need to do some stuff to get used to I I guess

[gaunt fiber]

Don't hesitate to check my youtube

[shy gulch]

lmao

is it astaos?

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah I'm the original type

Retrash is not Retrash and that was annoying lmao

[shy gulch]

yeah i also like to have a universal name for all my accounts

unfortunately croven is taken on twitch so i had to add numbers 😔

[gaunt fiber]

Oof

Number names

Mixed feelings about that

[shy gulch]

it just ruins the vibe

i probably couldve thought of something else but i was lazy so

just tacked on a few numbers

[gaunt fiber]

I bet it's Croven69

Or 6969

[onyx venture]

Pfff, who would pick a number like that

[true fable]

https://imgur.com/dnaZtHw

is it still random

[gaunt fiber]

Totally random

No Bright it crosses duo

Priority

[rain sedge]

@true fable what's the meg timing for sneak thing you mentioned?

can you link a guide or somethin

[true fable]

yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Iovk-sbe8

also flood flare beo feels pretty free

i died to asterius spins because im a bad player but if you want to clear 50 heat beo it seems like the way to go

[rain sedge]

I'm playing so much worse on PC

I just died to tis on 32 eris

and thanks for video

[true fable]

it happens

dying to furies on 32 heat is kind of a classic

[rain sedge]

idk man

the controls feel quite weird

I'm considering the controller + mouse combo but it's awkward

[mossy zinc]

You can probably just use your Switch pad.

[gaunt fiber]

Switch pad is like a controller

but worse

[rain sedge]

OOOOOHHH

because it's smaller and it can do one hand

nya your brain is so big

[sly remnant]

oh no bright doing the beo grind

imma have to catch up

[rain sedge]

lemme check if you can do that on pc

[true fable]

i just wanna do 50 heat :^)

[sly remnant]

glad people are converting to flood flare beo

[true fable]

might just AP2 and reset for flood flare to have the big five oh

and then just do other things

[gaunt fiber]

stream it

[mossy zinc]

No I mean just your Switch pad, not pad + mouse lol. Since you're used to your Switch controller.

[true fable]

this is literally that gloomer meme

"time for your daily 7 hour strim" "yes astaos"

maybe in a bit

[gaunt fiber]

[rain sedge]

oh

I have a controller for PC, that's not the problem

so I want the movement fidelity from the joystick, and the accuracy of special aim from the mouse

[north dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599449585710006288/790683743773261844/unknown.png do I just dad's keepsake?

[sly remnant]

eh

well actually

you have dedge

[rain sedge]

it's at 50% right

hmmmm

[sly remnant]

so you get charge relatively quickly

[rain sedge]

so if you fish for athena proud bearing

[true fable]

tyler im sad lol

[rain sedge]

you'd just get charged at the start always?

[true fable]

i made it to asterius with mirage

and got 2 shot

LOL

[sly remnant]

lmao that sounds like high heat

[gaunt fiber]

stream it

[mossy zinc]

lol fish for a specific boon with AP2 and no rerolls.

[true fable]

LOL

[sly remnant]

@rain sedge you have to change your name

[rain sedge]

@abstract wraith it's on pin

[rain sedge]

name is accurate

[true fable]

hmm

[gaunt fiber]

So now

[abstract wraith]

[true fable]

is it

[gaunt fiber]

you're grinding a hell save I assume

[rain sedge]

@mossy zinc ty for the big brain advice, my left hand is using the switch joycon which is small, and right is on the mouse

this is amazing

[north dove]

soooo... this is actually doable https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599449585710006288/790684780994887741/unknown.png

[true fable]

o pog

retrash what the heck

[gaunt fiber]

This might be the most cursed setup

[true fable]

good luck

[rain sedge]

whoa whoa whoa

did you just

select the jerky from patty

instead of SD

[north dove]

No

[rain sedge]

cool because that might be your maddest achievement yet

[gaunt fiber]

it's only 10 encounters

[rain sedge]

I can't differentiate between the 2 jerkies

[gaunt fiber]

is it possible?

[sly remnant]

you can do this retrash

i know you can

[rain sedge]

I think you got this retrash

a lot of EHP from weak and damage reduction, plenty of dps from dedge and epic aphro attack

and EM4 is just a walk in the park for you

so ye

[mossy zinc]

Lady Aphrodite carrying another high heat run. She's truly the best. 🥲

[gaunt fiber]

Another cursed run

Screenshot to your doom

Screenshot to your doom

[north dove]

Ugh got speared :(

[gaunt fiber]

.

When will it stop

[rain sedge]

ah, the controller has the same problem the PS4 controller does, it always acts as if it holds up

hmmm problematic. I might have some solutions

[mossy zinc]

Y'all need to stop posting screenshots and then die. Stay focused, don't get distracted by chat.

[rain sedge]

you're not dead are you

[gaunt fiber]

Idk

We try to warn them

but they would not listen

[mossy zinc]

They don't.

The successful runs usually come out of nowhere with no posts before that.

[gaunt fiber]

We're like prophets of apocalypse

Mocked; unheard

[mossy zinc]

No, actually.

m not a prophet.

m a witch cursing the run.

[gaunt fiber]

oh that's mean

I'll burn you

[mossy zinc]

Oh no.

So scared.

[gaunt fiber]

You better be

[mossy zinc]

Mods this person is threatening to burn me. Please help.

[gaunt fiber]

i'll purge some Tartarus witches to quench that bloodthirst

[mossy zinc]

Yes.

[gaunt fiber]

Depends on rarity/pom level/aspect and a bunch of things

[sly remnant]

where are you in the run

like location

mark

it'll make you go a lot faster

still mark i think

[true fable]

pomming deadly strike doesnt really do that much tbh

[solemn pulsar]

if only it pommed the crit chance, though that would be too powerful i guess

[tepid mural]

it should do that tbh

doesn't have to be much but 1-2% more crit chance would make it feel a lot better

[rain sedge]

PP pom does 1% per pom

[sly remnant]

pp is also global

[solemn pulsar]

i'd be fine with it if they ditched the attack boost altogether and just made the crit chance big. You could even it out so it's the same effective damage (1% crit chance is ~2% damage boost), but crits enable all the secondary artemis boons

[gaunt fiber]

Ok

little test

https://imgur.com/HIkhR59

let's curse this one

the setup is just godlike

[sly remnant]

if you lose this one honestly i think its a throw

not a curse

[rain sedge]

what's the second hermes boon?

[solemn pulsar]

losing with guan yu is never a throw

[rain sedge]

other than the epic hyper sprint

[solemn pulsar]

that's either attack or special speed

[rain sedge]

what's the hammer?

[solemn pulsar]

charged skewer

[gaunt fiber]

Charged

Y

[solemn pulsar]

and i just checked it's special speed form hermes

[rain sedge]

if you lose this might as well retire astaos

[mossy zinc]

That's Swift Flourish.

You can see Zag Sword on Swift Strike.

[somber leaf]

oof! spear 32 down. sword is all that's left... any advice on aspect/build to make this relatively painless? spear took foreeeever haha

[mossy zinc]

Excalibur, Heartbreak Strike, Divine Dash, stack DR and Dodge.

Don't take FO.

[true fable]

somehow this is more cursed than AP crossing out my duo boons

https://imgur.com/NzQMBCu

[somber leaf]

yeah I suck too much at FO 😛 if I ever try to push past 32 heat I might try to learn it, but for now... not worth it

[true fable]

merciful end beowulf

[somber leaf]

haha how does that even work

same as other shields but slower?

[mossy zinc]

Sure Footing is good.

[true fable]

well

[mossy zinc]

Or take it to have a better chance at Unshakable Mettle or to sell it.

[true fable]

i could just pick up merciful end to sell it

hmm

decision

or roll for DD

IDK

[mossy zinc]

You might not get to sell it, though.

Oh.

Roll for DD sounds good.

Or Call maybe.

[rain sedge]

arthur 32 is "free"

[true fable]

i got it again lmao

i cannot make this up

[rain sedge]

but poseidon 32 is pretty free and much more fun

[true fable]

also got last stand though

[somber leaf]

I do prefer Poseidon, but 'free' seems like a stretch haha

[rain sedge]

like... arthur isn't fun, at ALL.

[somber leaf]

Hunting Blades?

some people love it! I.. don't

[rain sedge]

well

[mossy zinc]

Excalibur is fun.

[rain sedge]

x doubt

[true fable]

you want to run a lodging cast on poseidon i think

[rain sedge]

poseidon 32 build will go something like

[true fable]

hunting blades is a mistake

[mossy zinc]

Only person I've seen here who doesn't think Excalibur is fun must be Schad.

[somber leaf]

oh? for exit wounds?

it's my least favourite sword but it is still fun 😛

[tepid mural]

arthur is super fun

wym

[rain sedge]

flood shot, into an artemis core (I'd take special if I can, but attack works too), so you can get mirage shot. exit wounds for SURE is priority, and take pressure point or support fire to allow you to get fully loaded

and you can just get other supporting boons like rupture, wave pounding, etc on your flood shot. 20-40% damage vs bosses is super nice

chaos boons etc as you need it

it's really good

[rain sedge]

out of the 24 aspects I played at 32, arthur must be bottom 5, even bottom 3 in terms of fun-ness

[mossy zinc]

But you're an Eris main, so your opinion doesn't count.

[rain sedge]

maybe less fun is lucifer? but I was doing soaker. gilga is definitely absolute bottom, zag spear might be bottom 2 as well

I forgot eris mains lack the masochistic tendencies of guan yu players

[true fable]

arthur is quite fun

lucifer is also very fun

bzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[sly remnant]

no. you shouldn't even be offered it

[true fable]

you can get it

you just cant get exit wounds with nonlodging casts

it does work

dont sell

they take the damage a fixed amt of time later

[sly remnant]

oh holy crap

TIl

TIL

[mossy zinc]

No, it's Charp.

[rain sedge]

WHAT

what's a "fixed amount of time" later

[mossy zinc]

When the bloodstone dislodges.

[rain sedge]

is it the 15s of the standard dislodge time

[true fable]

i guess so if thats the standard dislodge time

[gaunt fiber]

Not retired I guess

[rain sedge]

I wanna say something mean but I think I've done the daily quota

so... good job astaos

[gaunt fiber]

Do it

[sly remnant]

is it cheating to buy from well with hourglass and then swap in acorn

[rain sedge]

you can't right

you can only swap keepsake once

[sly remnant]

nah i used hourglass for elysium

lmfao didn't matter

4 sack into triple bfly ball

ah well

thats the fight

[somber leaf]

Flood shot or any lodging non-Aphrodite cast? You’d start Poseidon over Artemis?

[rain sedge]

flood shot is optimal. yes poseidon over artemis

the reasoning is kinda complex, lmk if you're interested

[true fable]

https://imgur.com/J30QpbD

unfortunate 4 sack

good practice though

[honest kernel]

can i know as well

[true fable]

mightve been doable with no EM4

EM4 in 1:30 seems hard

[sly remnant]

hey with beo its possible

you'll have to go balls to the wall tho

[true fable]

nah

played sloppy

GGs maxy

mightve been possible with perfect play but i got frustrated with low dmg

breaking wave doesnt really do anything vs dad

[sly remnant]

it was gonna be hard in 1:30

[rain sedge]

well, with the cast options, here are your options
dio, ares, demeter is non-lodging
zeus doesnt consistently lodge (and therefore, make you lose exit wounds damage)
aphrodite is quite short range which can be dangerous for beginners, and have no supporting boons
athena is cool - but kinda slow, and have less good supporting boons than poseidon. You have to fish for lightning phalanx to bring it to parity with poseidon. You could make the argument that it unlocks athena for divine dash + dd, but at 32 that's not really necessary.
artemis is good damage, good supporting boon, but ultimately single target. You might get away with it with JS0, but poseidon is so much more consistent.
so we're left with poseidon. Supporting boons give extra damage from rupture, + damage to boss, if you slam to barrier you might get more damage from boons. and it unlocks mirage shot

[true fable]

oh Gz

[sly remnant]

grats

@true fable straight up idk if its possible but i figured i'd encourage you in case it was

[true fable]

that's fair

TY

[rain sedge]

in terms of why poseidon over artemis first, ultimately the reasoning is you want to get a cast boon as quickly as you can in tartarus, since you are at your weakest point. artemis you want for mirage shot, exit wounds, and fully loaded - none which you need in tartarus yet

90% of mobs will die in 3 poseidon casts in tartarus, so exit wounds is not necessary

it's used to finish off mobs with more HP that have 3 casts lodged in them

the only hard fight is furies

so yeah, poseidon into artemis is the best keepsake combo for 32 poseidon

[true fable]

the double spin caught me off guard a lot

very used to ducking single spins atm

[somber leaf]

I'm definitely curious, and oh you just typed ot

you got me excited, I'll try it now

[true fable]

holy shoot lol

hazard bomb hestia with divine flourish

can insta phase tis

by deflecting a whole volley of projectiles

[somber leaf]

for Poseidon sword, what hammers are good...?

[sly remnant]

they all aren't incredible

but dedge is never bad

[true fable]

hammers dont matter but yeah dedge/piercing wave

super nova kinda

[somber leaf]

woah. got piercing wave, epic poseidon cast, and immediate exit wounds haha

[rain sedge]

I mean the hammers are veeeery secondary, you can go entire run without attacking even once

maybe the one where your special is bigger is convenient? double nova maybe?

[sly remnant]

@rain sedge go stream so I can fall asleep and take a nap to eris gameplay

[honest kernel]

that makes sense, thanks for the explanation schad

[rain sedge]

I'm still getting used to my setup

[gaunt fiber]

@lusty mirage Sorry for the last couple runs lmao

We were talking about it earlier, but the GY attack dream build died in Elysium (epic swift strike, triple jab start) @daring hedge

https://imgur.com/5ArT1lP

[daring hedge]

noooo

[gaunt fiber]

It's actually

Almost like Hades

lmao

[daring hedge]

budget hades aspect

[gaunt fiber]

But I got a terrible bp bow room

[daring hedge]

i actually know that pain

high density BP strongbow rooms are really dangerous

basically those and JS boosted speeder greatshield rooms are among my most dreaded for elysium

[gaunt fiber]

they were 4 in this side of the river, nowhere to hide

Death was not painful, it was quick

[rain sedge]

left hand on switch joystick, right hand on mouse

I'm starting to get used to this

[gaunt fiber]

And I'm the psycho

[rain sedge]

now just need to rebind pause into a joystick button

but I think that's not possible

nevermind I did it

I'm pretty proud of myself

does zag always cast in front of himself?

[somber leaf]

okay.. Poseidon swordi s suuuuper strong. didn't get mirage cast, but got it my first attempt with Flood cast

[rain sedge]

told you it's free

[somber leaf]

why was spear so much harder than the other weapons? am I worse with it or is it just harder?

[north dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599449585710006288/790714616313151538/unknown.png 4-sacked on this beautiful run

[rain sedge]

FeelsBadMan retrash

[daring hedge]

oh no

[rain sedge]

now that you've seeded dedge, why don't you just mod it to always give 2 sac

I think there's something that does that

[daring hedge]

the deadly strike and epic hunter dash

[rain sedge]

at least hermes cup people modify their sac number

[north dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599449585710006288/790715318145908786/unknown.png oh excuse me not a 4-sack... a 5-sack LOL

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/599449585710006288/790715682206908426/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676 salt in the wound

[mossy zinc]

There's a daily quota for mean? What's the point of that?

[rain sedge]

poor astaos 😦

[true fable]

dang retrash

that hurts

[rain sedge]

I'm trying to do the pierced butterfly achievement

and now when I hear the "ga-dong" I get PTSD from the TD3 damage from the sacs

[daring hedge]

has the 2sack mod indulgence begun lol

i'd imagine a 5sack experience like that would tempt it

[gaunt fiber]

[daring hedge]

@true fable ello is after your beo 32 👀

[lusty mirage]

someone was saying that the controller movement overrides the mouse aim

[rain sedge]

nooo I was gonna do the 32 WR

[gaunt fiber]

np do it

[rain sedge]

I havent experienced that so far

isn't ello an actual speedrunner

instead of a casual

[mossy zinc]

The only difference between an actual speedrunner and a casual speedrunner is that the former takes low heat too serious.

[true fable]

i am 👀

[daring hedge]

the flood flare strats

[sly remnant]

I'm sorry retrash

That really sucks

[gaunt fiber]

not more than GY attack build dying in Elysium

[mossy zinc]

@sly remnant @gaunt fiber you two should take the response time test so we can sort you into your houses.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12_2L5sZGreuR-1MElSpPiVK6893SIq_oXp8AelLVvco/edit?usp=sharing

[gaunt fiber]

I got 178 earlier

[mossy zinc]

Okay, added.

Congratulations on 4th place.

That better not be a lie.

[gaunt fiber]

It's not

[mossy zinc]

That's exactly what a liar would say if it was a lie.

[gaunt fiber]

True

[mossy zinc]

Hmm.

Still a 🐢.

[daring hedge]

https://puu.sh/GZLXG/3ea7661993.png not bad for a first attempt after not trying it for a while

[mossy zinc]

Oh nice. A lot faster than your previous one.

Congratulations on 7th place!

[true fable]

arent you gonna congratulate me on 17th place

[gaunt fiber]

https://imgur.com/88qMTQX

got it again

lol

[mossy zinc]

@daring hedge you're a 🐢 🦊.

@true fable congratulations on 🐢 place!

[true fable]

TY! 🎊

looking at my reaction time youd think i never got a new monitor

[gaunt fiber]

pro tip : do not focus

and relax

[sly remnant]

I'm sure I'm slow. Put me in slow house

[honest kernel]

i got a 400

is this why i will never be based high heat gamer

[gaunt fiber]

Nope

It's nice to react quickly

but what if your reaction is a dash in the lava?

nice, you would be able do dash in the lava quicker than anyone

[shy plinth]

Theoretically this would also help with then dashing out of the lava faster

[gaunt fiber]

lmao

assuming you have 2 dashes yeah

or one available at least

[shy plinth]

If you don't then you can more quickly realize that you're gonna take a bunch of damage

And then when your other dash comes up you can very quickly dash straight into a gorgon rock

[gaunt fiber]

yeah that's my point dear Hat

[shy plinth]

And by you, I mean... me

[true fable]

ridiculoushat

[mossy zinc]

That's not what simple response time is about, though. That's a much more complex reaction you're describing.

[true fable]

your reaction time is pretty quick

[formal gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/790727690474618900/unknown.png lets goooo I was getting like >220 and then this

[gaunt fiber]

lmao

[true fable]

i dont know what old man reactions you're talking about

@formal gust post that in PBs

LOL

[shy plinth]

I maintain it's an error with the site

[formal gust]

what are the verification standards

[lusty mirage]

can try to anticipate to get lucky and grind it

[gaunt fiber]

^

[lusty mirage]

i got a 174 just now and i'm slow

[true fable]

just show death

🔪

[formal gust]

show death in response time test

[gaunt fiber]

does not the website make an average?

on like 3-4 tries

[lusty mirage]

yeah but getting one 85 lowers your average, once i got a 22

[gaunt fiber]

178 again

I'm stuck

I'm a bot