#h1-high-heat-strategies

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sinful zodiac
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4 sack

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unfortunate

sinful zodiac
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can't say I miss this

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unmodded cringe

quiet acorn
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Beo sucks

forest token
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true

quiet acorn
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All apsect suckwhen they don't work

winged cedar
nocturne stag
quiet acorn
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For all time

nocturne stag
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Exactly!

hoary pasture
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boonless

sinful zodiac
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What is antivorime?

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And vorimed?

quiet acorn
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First boon

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x4

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Vs rolling twice and not getting it

sinful zodiac
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Cool

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Shackle zeus tech maybe

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Ap3 sound unplayable

hoary pasture
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It shouldnt

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But the 99 heat mode wasnt made to be compatible with the modpack so idk

clever otter
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I have a question, how is an unmodded unseeded 64 heat run verified? Is it just looking to see if there are any hidden mods?

left prism
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Basically, yeah

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Back when Angel's run got verified some people on reddit were annoyed that the explanation ends up as "you have to trust us we know what to check for"

clever otter
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I don’t get people who try to discredit this achievement

left prism
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Gotta get the clout for catching a "cheater" ig residentzag

clever otter
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like it’s been 3 or 4 years since the pact of punishment got added to the game why would someone wait until now if they were cheating

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Everyone’s doubts don’t make sense to me, once it’s been verified

left prism
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I remembered more annoyed people but that was probably in the speedrun discord or deleted posts

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Oh yeah I keed to watch the new run lol

clever otter
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also I love that in this most recent run the earring is used for the last biome bc in the very first speedruns (when the game just released and was only up to asphodel and the wr was like 8 minutes) that’s the keepsake that was used :’)

clever otter
sinful zodiac
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Funny how museus mentioned crit chance first, probably experience from the damue incident

clever otter
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yeah I was thinking about that, that’s why I asked if verifying is basically just looking for mods

left prism
sinful zodiac
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The boldest one is gilga 64 ron

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I don’t think you can pay anyone to play and clear 60 gilga let alone 64

wispy blade
clever otter
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now that you’ve said it gilga 64 heat is next

wispy blade
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i guess it all falls under the purview of mods

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except for like

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checking splices or whatever

clever otter
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yeah

wispy blade
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but checking laurel ratios and stuff is part of it

hoary pasture
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There was a post about the timing of the 64 heat run and it was the most bs ive read in a while

wispy blade
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that guy came in speedcord and started crying

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at everyone

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it was so funny

clever otter
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timing?

hoary pasture
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Like the messages angel sent in the discord

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And the time it took to finish the run

wispy blade
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yeah like when they were dem

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sent

hoary pasture
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They didnt match

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Idk what that means

clever otter
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that’s pretty silly. I also saw in the comments a lot of people saying it’s spliced because of the music, and because the music skips at one point or something it’s spliced

hoary pasture
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But I read the whole post and there’s no correlation and it assumes that Discord is 100% consistent and accurate with the time it takes to send messages

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So just based on nonsense

wispy blade
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he actually came in the server right as karl jobst was asking questions

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lol

clever otter
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timing discord messages to disprove a run is another level

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lol

wispy blade
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the best part is

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he didn’t consider the fact that she could have used

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A Phone

sinful zodiac
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On another note, which of the 2 do you think is luckier? Even tho angel had more skip, bai ely enemies pattern is absolutely bonker, all those spreader literally saved the run

clever otter
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i don’t know because I don’t really delve into that stuff but i love that the runs were so different, different keepsakes etc

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maybe now that it’s been done twice people will stop saying it’s fake

sinful zodiac
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Mysterra has been clearing it like just another day of week modded

hoary pasture
wispy blade
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i’m just watching it now

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it starts on a cshot resetbouldy bouldy

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can he give me that

hoary pasture
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No

sinful zodiac
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Baj get to styx with cshot bouldy

wispy blade
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mike did u ever play zeus anyheat

hoary pasture
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No

wispy blade
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it’s surprisingly fun

hoary pasture
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Less than 5 runs

wispy blade
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i got a 6:04

hoary pasture
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Was doing me with er

wispy blade
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ME with doom special

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and cshot

hoary pasture
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Ye ive seen the progress

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ggs

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Gud stuff

wispy blade
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special is so much better tho

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it’s insane

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attack sux

hoary pasture
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I was always a doom special believer

wispy blade
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ahead of the curve

sinful zodiac
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Because of ER?

hoary pasture
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real gamer

wispy blade
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even on cshot

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it’s just order of operations

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as well as ease of use

hoary pasture
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Better scaling too

wispy blade
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yeah

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Not as rarity reliant

wispy blade
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rare spec is still better dmg than epic atk lol

sinful zodiac
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I watched duunk0 video and he said it’s good with pulv blow since it double proc

clever otter
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that’s charged shot not crush shot right? lol

hoary pasture
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Yea the hammer

wispy blade
hoary pasture
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Really strong for speedrunning

wispy blade
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and it probably doesn’t work actually

clever otter
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Pulverizing blow was my go to when I was doing my weird 20 heat runs for bounties

wispy blade
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there’s like 0 chance pulv blow procs slower than 0.3 seconds right

clever otter
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It just feels good

hoary pasture
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But I doubt it’s a double proc

wispy blade
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pulv blow zagshield was my favorite back in the day

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but yeah pulv blow also makes cshot come up slower

sinful zodiac
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Have you watched bai ely, i dont know about anyheat but that probably really good right?

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I literally prayed for spreader every ely room

forest token
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Iirc c32 and 33 had armored splitters

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C34 was unarmored bluemen

forest token
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At first he wasn't even trying to say that angel's run wasn't legitimate, it was just like "the run didn't happen on this day" which is a wild point

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I think later he changed to that the run was faked or whatever but the reddit post got deleted lmao

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Or rather removed by mods

winged cedar
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Almost replaced, almost making my heart jump out

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Dad's fight is the most satisfying one I've ever played

forest token
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hitless dad fight lmao yeah

sinful zodiac
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leanest build at dad lmao

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obviously i died

wispy blade
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just deflect the td hits

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free

sinful zodiac
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ER zag shield bouldy

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zeus at home

quiet acorn
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Ok so

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Meg can miss lernie if it's head is in the air

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This is very good to know

sinful zodiac
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turn on aim at mouse at dad is life changing

quiet acorn
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Wow I watched the 64 heat run and you basically have to maximize damage and iframes to barely make it through

winged cedar
quiet acorn
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Now I have an excuse to watch again

winged cedar
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I'm very satisfied with hitting dad

sinful zodiac
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3:30 dad fight, i can’t even do that at 50 dusa

winged cedar
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Wearing earrings, you can also do itzagluv

quiet acorn
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Em4 is beyond me probably one of the things I'll never be able to beat in this game

sinful zodiac
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Because you’re doing hl5 fo2 cp1 em4

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Em4 fo1 is kinda dumb ngl

winged cedar
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I practiced EM4 for dozens of hours

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Until I'm satisfied

quiet acorn
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So if you play em4 now would you say you have a 90+% chance of clearing it?

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Or is it still very hard

winged cedar
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95%

quiet acorn
winged cedar
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Time is enough, there should be 98%

quiet acorn
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I have 98% chance of dying

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I should practice em4 too

winged cedar
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Playing mod50 heat can lead to consecutive victories

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There were 12 consecutive wins before

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Zeus shield

sinful zodiac
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I think tailesque had 10 consecutive win with rama 50 unmodded

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Just a matter of mastery

winged cedar
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50 heat is very easy for Zeus shield

forest token
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in short, "git gud" lmao

quiet acorn
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I've never beaten em4 at 50 heat without +dashes

sinful zodiac
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  • dash is like cheating tbh
quiet acorn
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Erisge

sinful zodiac
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I could have perfect clear this

forest token
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damn that's a big number

winged cedar
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My first 50 heat was on April 28th, 2022

forest token
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mine was august 9th 2022 lmao

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3 days after my first 40

quiet acorn
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Unles I can't math

winged cedar
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At that time, my gaming time was two hundred hours

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I have 1450 hours of gaming time now

quiet acorn
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Wow

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god damn

quiet acorn
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I have 1100+

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i barely passed 500 lmao

quiet acorn
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I wonder how much of my time is afk

sinful zodiac
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When did you start to watch your own video?

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I feel like i should start doing that

winged cedar
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For over a thousand hours, I have been playing Zeus shieldzaggrin

quiet acorn
winged cedar
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i hardly ever watch my own videos and wonder why i can't improve as much as i would like lmao

quiet acorn
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Same

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Ive only recorded like 2 of my '''speedruns'''

winged cedar
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Mystera's game time is 2796 hours

quiet acorn
sinful zodiac
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Angel is probably over 3000

winged cedar
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The Zeus shield is the most interesting weapon I find

quiet acorn
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Idk how to play Zeus shield 😭

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I find every other shield to be easier

sinful zodiac
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You can try the zyru way and master hestia

winged cedar
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To combine sprint, special attack, and shield charge

quiet acorn
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I think i peaked at hestia I don't want to do ri3 dc or em4 with it

sinful zodiac
winged cedar
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You watch my 64 heat videos

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Very flexible

quiet acorn
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So many inputs very fast hard to keep track of

sinful zodiac
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If you don’t enjoy it, forcing it not gonna work

quiet acorn
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I stick with Eris spray and pray

winged cedar
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If you can understand Chinese

sinful zodiac
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If every top player like zeus shield, we would have more 64 clear

winged cedar
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I recommend Mystra's video to you

quiet acorn
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It's ok I'm not so interested in Zeus shield

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But I will watch anyway

winged cedar
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It's because of this video that I started playing Zeus Shield

quiet acorn
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i dont know chinese ☹️

winged cedar
wispy blade
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do u not know the icons

quiet acorn
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thats a how to use zeus shield vid where they explain on skellly

wispy blade
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o

sinful zodiac
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I can actually do the first part of the video

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Half of the time

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The special input is kinda wonky

winged cedar
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The rest is gathering monsters

quiet acorn
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🤔

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ignore the time

wispy blade
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yeah they do that

quiet acorn
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i have the most sad and depressing clips in hads

sinful zodiac
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you should used cshot as much as possible

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watch some angel vod

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don't have to full charge it

quiet acorn
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i know

sinful zodiac
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welp, then good luck

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I can't play with zag shield that well

quiet acorn
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its quite easy and straightforward im being extrmely dumb is all

sinful zodiac
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@quiet acorn do you want to try this, em4 hestia with aphro attack, hazard bomb with arty flourish and swift flourish, +1 dash

quiet acorn
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em4 hestia bedge

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i like my autoaim thanks

sinful zodiac
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i failed 3 times already :V

quiet acorn
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i dont think ill play hestia ever again

sinful zodiac
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second before disaster

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no jolted or double strike

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ely 34 is room full of unarmored blue man

quiet acorn
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60 heat is a grind glad I'll never be attempting that

strong wagon
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bro I cannot beat the 32 heat for the skelly statue zagsad

wispy blade
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check pinned guide

river gulch
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i can’t beat 16 💀 idk how i beat 17 heat but not 16 lmaoo

jaunty falcon
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Hmmm

sinful zodiac
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almost screwed up at the end there

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could have been a no hit If I didn't get so nervous at phase 2

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athena dash goated

cursive portal
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than is off

sinful zodiac
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Explained why I haven’t seen him in a while

cursive portal
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lol

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free time save!

river gulch
sinful zodiac
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3 athena boon at tart, 2 of them offered dd

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when I'm near full health, dude

quiet acorn
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Ri0 moment

plush path
wispy blade
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removes some rng

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but there are others

forest token
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there def are mods idk where you heard that from lmao

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if you're not on pc then you can't mod

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but mods def do exist

plush path
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there's like a whole page for mods lmao

jaunty falcon
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^ its the first one that comes up

plush path
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cool

sinful zodiac
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knowing me, I bet I would choke this bouldy

forest token
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yeah where are your poms lmao

sinful zodiac
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I start shackle, got aphro last shop

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Want to do some unmodded shenanigans i guess

forest token
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oh fair lmao

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that's pretty good then lmao

sinful zodiac
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Yeah, flurry is kinda good

quiet acorn
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Erpic Swift strike for gaming

sinful zodiac
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I’m gonna finish this later, spicy run

cold kiln
sinful zodiac
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Yeah

sinful zodiac
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nail hourglass lernie is really legit

forest token
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nail always lasts until lernie anyways

wispy blade
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yeah

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unless you dont get midshop

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which tbf

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happens often

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but most of the time it'll last lmao

wispy blade
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generally yeah

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but sometimes game says "lol no" and gives you 0 skips

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and 0 midshops

sinful zodiac
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just got twin shot, my god the jinx is real

quiet acorn
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With Athena call flurry triple goes hard

forest token
sinful zodiac
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3 sack and ongoing

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unmodded cringe

sinful zodiac
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budget rama is so weird

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die at dad btw

quiet acorn
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Shield em4 player when no shield

sinful zodiac
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I might have underestimated poseidon call

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1000, 1200 with rav will is no joke

frank verge
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can somebody help me make a chiron heat thing

wispy blade
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wdym

frank verge
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like make the pact of punishment choices for 32heat

wispy blade
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hl5 lc4 cf2 em3 bp2 mm uc td3

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try that

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check pinned guide

frank verge
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wtf is that

wispy blade
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a pact

frank verge
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i mean the acronyms

wispy blade
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pact conditions

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check pins

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.

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.

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chiron is pretty standard in terms of pact

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it sucks though

rugged hinge
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no dc?

wispy blade
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no

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dc sux

rugged hinge
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seems fine for chiron, even though ive never used it before and dont care too much about going fast

rugged hinge
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need a td2 heat 40 pact(any weapon, though zeus/beo/hestia are preferred)

sinful zodiac
rugged hinge
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apbouldy

sinful zodiac
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or js3 cp1 or js2 cp1 pl

forest token
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Also ap1 is somewhat standard at 40

sinful zodiac
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common flare is so sad

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and the aspect frickin steal your iframes

forest token
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Common vs rare flare is like 10 damage

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But also yeah iframes begone

sinful zodiac
forest token
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Probably lmao

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Ely always sucks

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Also no cshot so speed begone

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What hammer is that

quiet acorn
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Blessed with ap2 booons

sinful zodiac
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sudden, I learnt my lesson with cshot em4

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where is my acorn

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when you have ri0, you tend to have more boon

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more rolls too, getting boon at ap2 is somewhat managable

quiet acorn
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When i playd bro i get 1 pom on cast

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Literally

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*beo

sinful zodiac
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yeah this was 1 boon until endshop

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I have to buy a stinky thunder dash

quiet acorn
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Em4 Sadge how

sinful zodiac
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watch angel and ykc vods

quiet acorn
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I need to make a meme when I get back to my pc

sinful zodiac
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gonna try to speedrun beo real quick

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the aspect is so stupid

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except dad

quiet acorn
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Tr ue

forest token
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sounds about right

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the far end of it is just "this is 50+ heat i dont really have a choice"

sinful zodiac
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I have come to the conclusion i suck at speed beo

wispy blade
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basically

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press button

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win

quiet acorn
rugged hinge
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td0 enjoyer

sinful zodiac
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From haelian’s data, 15% take em4 for 32 heat

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But at 32 heat, em4 is still quite tame since some thing like fo1 hl4 dad is not that ridiculous

forest token
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well it depends on the rest of the pact tbf lmao

wispy blade
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worked out

quiet acorn
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I have never played lightning fists

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ME alwyays

mint crow
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Oh god HL5 EM4

quiet acorn
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Idk how you manage the piss lighting damage

mint crow
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No

wispy blade
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fists suck anyways

wispy blade
quiet acorn
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Get the boons works better on ME

wispy blade
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on zap u just need like

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jolted

sinful zodiac
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My friend told me aphro in fist strike is good and I believe it for a long time

wispy blade
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and then poms

sinful zodiac
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Bet i can still find those win somewhere in the admin chamber

mint crow
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I use FO too much my timing is gonna be screwed

rugged hinge
wispy blade
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no

quiet acorn
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Zap is Zeus Athena Pls

wispy blade
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it is not good on gilga

quiet acorn
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Or Zmerciful Aend Pinstead

sinful zodiac
quiet acorn
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Lol

sinful zodiac
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Probably shoals gaming

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Looking back, this build has no damage aside the dash

quiet acorn
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My first clear stayed with me and i still play the same thing

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Zeus Eris delta chamber

sinful zodiac
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Yeah, i did zeus^2 with meme beam

wispy blade
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this was mine

quiet acorn
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Nemesis based

wispy blade
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i had read about arthur and really really wanted it

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(🗿)

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so i put blood in sword

quiet acorn
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I must do nem45 soon

sinful zodiac
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Nem45 is kinda fine, you can go really fast with it

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5 min dad is comfy

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Just wait for his spin then go in

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Based museus

wispy blade
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that chat is something

sharp jackal
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It’s no coincident that people shorten Poseidon to POS

shy plinth
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But... sea storm...

timid idol
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That was in reference to a reddit post someone made about Artemis being the worst god lmao

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Wouldn't worst god be Ares overall?

wispy blade
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dem

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dem is the only god with no good builds centered around her

timid idol
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oh yeah, forgot about her, I certainly do not jump for joy when I see her

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except if I want Crystal Clarity or Ice Wine

quiet acorn
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How does the chill dot boon compare vs hangover?

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Idr the name

wispy blade
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arctic blast?

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it sucks

timid idol
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Killing Freeze

wispy blade
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cant be pommed

quiet acorn
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Yes

wispy blade
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oh

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killing freeze as well

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that one is less bad

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but compared to hangover is still bad

timid idol
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Hangover stacked should far outdo killing freeze

wispy blade
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because it also cant be pommed

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killing freeze is like

quiet acorn
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Atleast it's something

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Ig

wispy blade
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a quarter of shoals

quiet acorn
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Oh

wispy blade
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it only ticks twice a second lol

timid idol
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at least a cool legendary

quiet acorn
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The legendary is differnt

timid idol
wispy blade
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yeah but that's not a good build

timid idol
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Hunting Blades is just better?

wispy blade
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yeah

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or LP

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or like

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basically any other cast

timid idol
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or ice wine?

wispy blade
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sure

sinful zodiac
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Stygian and mediocre damage is what make meme beam bad

timid idol
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but that's more dio centered

wispy blade
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meme beam is like

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more rng than ME

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for a mid build

timid idol
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what exactly constitutes meme beam build

wispy blade
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you need like

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the duo

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glacial glare with poms

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and cast stones

sinful zodiac
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Glacial glare is actually almost as important as the duo

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And good luck getting it with all the other support boon from dem

timid idol
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how woudl you rank the gods?

wispy blade
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if you're talking general application across all aspects

timid idol
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yeah

wispy blade
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zeus artemis poseidon > athena > aph ares dio > dem

timid idol
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So the first three are basically good to have on any build?

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or inoffensive?

wispy blade
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yeah

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although

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zeus can be bad on like

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beo and hera

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otherwise he's very good

sinful zodiac
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I actually like dio more than poseidon just because of the call and non pomable stuff is better

wispy blade
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poseidon is just like

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tdash good

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and the scaling options around it

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and arty has pp mark

timid idol
wispy blade
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no as in having zeus is bad on those

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zeus is the worst supporting god for beo and hera

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sea storm is not very good

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on beo

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it's nice sometimes for like

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ely eyes

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if it brings u over a dash strike threshold

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but otherwise not really

timid idol
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what would make zeus' other abilities bad for support on those aspects?

wispy blade
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he has no nonpommables

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none of his cores are very good

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on beo or hera

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and his other junk is pommable without being much dmg increase

timid idol
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oh so, you are less likely to get the abilities you want to pom in the pool

wispy blade
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yeah

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beo and hera live and die by poms

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hera especially

timid idol
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i see

wispy blade
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you need minimum lvl6 or 7 on hera

timid idol
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do you just pom youor cast to death?

wispy blade
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yeah

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on beo u can get away with less especially if ur flare has rarity

timid idol
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i see

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so poseidon is good mainly because of tdash?

wispy blade
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yeah

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and that leads to shoals

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and beaver

timid idol
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beaver?

wispy blade
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breaking wave

timid idol
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So I guess Aphrodite is not great other than on attack or special?

wispy blade
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aph is very good when she's good

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highest % attack and special

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no real scaling options outside of that though

timid idol
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yeah, it seemed like that

wispy blade
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dying lament is nice

timid idol
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and athena also good cause of dash?

sinful zodiac
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Athena is good because of dash, call and dd refill

wispy blade
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other stuff too

timid idol
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yeah call is good

wispy blade
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phalanx is a very good general purpose cast

sinful zodiac
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Her support is okay, sure footing, bronze skin

timid idol
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I feel like only half the gods have good calls

wispy blade
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deadly reversal is nice

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there are like 2 calls worth taking most of the time

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and 1.5 of them are zeus

timid idol
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zues dio lol

sinful zodiac
#

Fun fact, you can’t die to tight deadline when you’re in athena call

timid idol
#

that would be kinda sick with smouldering air lol

sinful zodiac
#

So you can clutch dad fight in those 7-8 seconds

wispy blade
#

i would simply sub10 60 heat

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you know

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if i ever sub6 40

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there will only be one more heatspeed category left to sub6

timid idol
wispy blade
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54

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i dont play much heat

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i have a handful of aspects at 50 and hestia 54 and thats about it

sinful zodiac
#

If you defeat the evil camel, you’re definitely the goat

wispy blade
#

not my thing

timid idol
wispy blade
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i pause buffer more than most people

timid idol
#

I remember from the reddit post that had so many people up in arms lol

wispy blade
#

reddit is wild

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2 wrs of mine totalled like 17 upvotes

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but that 33 heat boonless mirrorless i did got like 700

quiet acorn
#

Probably becuaee you played like a 5 year old tbhthhb

wispy blade
#

grue

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i also got downvoted for

quiet acorn
wispy blade
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posting the link to the video

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in the comments of the 529

sinful zodiac
#

I remember bai 64 got like 20 upvote

wispy blade
#

yea lol

quiet acorn
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Wow guys this is the most op build in my life

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Got 2 duo boons

forest token
#

just make another 32 heat guide and get free upvotes

wispy blade
#

what i really need to do is find another persons wr to post

forest token
#

65 heat

wispy blade
timid idol
forest token
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oh lmao

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post mysterra's 82 heat

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if you can find the video for that

rugged hinge
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most my 32 heatshadethumbsup

sinful zodiac
#

Fwiw, my trippy beo run got this for mentioning beowulf in the title

forest token
#

technically speaking you could count it as 85 heat because fo4 multiplicative movement speed is about 100% instead of the expected 80%

sinful zodiac
#

Grue

wispy blade
#

the reddit is also so weird about victory screenshots

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they remove them like

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half the time

forest token
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the rules say not to but everyone does it anyways

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including me

wispy blade
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my first sub6 got removed

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but nothing else

timid idol
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Why the hell is the final boss still considered a spoiler on the sub

forest token
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not technically

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it is

sinful zodiac
quiet acorn
wispy blade
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jesus christ

wispy blade
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14s furies 31s lernie 10s heroes 30s dad

quiet acorn
#

Yeah very hotrible

wispy blade
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with this build

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literally instaphase

quiet acorn
#

Get good next time 👍

sinful zodiac
#

Yeah that a sub10 hero angle

wispy blade
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this should have been a 4s heroes

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and 25 dad

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and probably 23 lernie

forest token
#

i mean that just shows that you improved lmao

wispy blade
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yeah but

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dam

forest token
#

every run has mistakes in it and can be improved on lmao

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it's not surprising to look back on old runs and die on the inside

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like i'm sure my sub6 run is a sub5 seed

wispy blade
#

this one and that 5:21 i got are both 100% sub5 seeds

forest token
#

yeah exactly lmao we're not perfect

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unless you were like actively grinding for a sub5 and you get a 5:10 then yeah sure i guess you can be mad about it but also 5:10 is amazing lmao

wispy blade
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sub5 grinding is so boring

sinful zodiac
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Or be cgull and get 5:00

wispy blade
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its just like

forest token
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lmfao

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but yeah understandable

wispy blade
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resetting entering c3 because you see a witch

forest token
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10 sec room begone

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my tarts are so bad lmao

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esp with no resets

wispy blade
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i do wonder what the timeloss in the average random sub6 is

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like some 5:50 garbo or something

forest token
#

i'm only at 20/50 and i'm not even playing every day

wispy blade
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that ur not playing that hard for or anything

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it might be that like

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the average sub6 seed is sub530able

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that would be funny

forest token
#

yeah i'm not really grinding for anything

forest token
#

there's a lot of stuff in sub6 runs that you can probably cut down on

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very hard to play perfect unless you get like easy line ups

sinful zodiac
#

You guy should check out yu gi oh speedrun scene

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The rng is so bad anyone can get wr

forest token
#

what in the actual hell is a yu gi oh speedrun

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isn't that a competitive card game against other players

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how are you speedrunning that

sinful zodiac
#

More or less

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Just defeat the final boss

coarse acorn
#

I feel Like I should really learn how to dodge. The fact that I've cleared A 32 and EM4 And yet can't properly dodge appals me tbh

quiet acorn
#

I feel that

edgy ermine
#

Honestly doing dash only runs teaches really well how to dodge

coarse acorn
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I might turn Up HL to max and turn on high confidence

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That'll teach me

coarse acorn
quiet acorn
#

Yes

edgy ermine
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Pick up splash dash and defeat hades

sinful zodiac
#

The best way to learn dodging is playing fist

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The best way to understand the window to attack is rama

quiet acorn
#

Eris kinda fist

sinful zodiac
#

True, eris is long knuckle fist

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With a ton of damage

quiet acorn
#

The longest knuckle

sinful zodiac
#

Who could have guessed gun > fist

quiet acorn
coarse acorn
#

I play alot of fist tho. And then I Just dash strike like a maniac

sinful zodiac
#

Iframe begone if you do that

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Fist at high heat is an excruciating grind

coarse acorn
#

Ah I haven't done high heat

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My high heat clears are Eris and beo

sinful zodiac
#

It’s fine, fist is not good for heat anyway

coarse acorn
#

I suddenly feel very inclined to do My very best go to prove you wrong or something and idk why

quiet acorn
sinful zodiac
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I mean if you can, go for it

ashen garnet
quiet acorn
#

Me when hitstun and jolted don't proc

sinful zodiac
#

Yeah that’s is why fist > sword

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I have ptsd with chariot on rail

quiet acorn
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Bruh. Like 70% of my Eris runs die to armoured speeder charriits

ashen garnet
#

Play the weapon/aspect you prefer, everything is very viable at 32, up to 50, main difference being specific experience/skill required

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And ranking weaps/aspects does not make any sense anyways

quiet acorn
#

I shall do gilga 50 heat by the end of this month

sinful zodiac
#

I just died with zag shield 50 with lv5 heroic attack

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Truly an ely moment

quiet acorn
#

Flashback tothe last clip I sent here

sinful zodiac
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Bet i’m not ready for any melee on 50

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It was 6:50 aspho exit into 13:30 hero

frank verge
#

Can anybody help me on 32 heat ? I’ve been stuck for a while what’s the easiest aspect / build for it ?

wispy blade
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check pinned guide

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easiest aspect probably hestia

rugged hinge
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or zoos/hidden

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although clockets is kinda a free win

wispy blade
#

u don’t really need anything beyond aph attack

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you can even do 32 hestia boonless

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without too much hassle

frank verge
#

Best attempt of mine was elision but I died to the heroes

edgy ermine
#

Technically you can do any heat with Hestia boonless as long as you keep td out of the game right?

rugged hinge
#

you can do mirrorless boonless heat 58 unmodded unseeded aspectless contractorless(outside of em4) summonless damageless cast only

edgy ermine
#

Just need to use the iframes correctly

sinful zodiac
#

god damn titan toppler

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so comfy but where is damage

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starting phase 2 btw and phase 1 took 2 mins

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featuring sneak and 2 bballs

forest token
thick sentinel
#

ddash base damage>reflecting

quiet acorn
#

Em4 deadge

sinful zodiac
#

funny how much I used to hate the dad sweep

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now that's my favorite pattern because it's so telegraphed

quiet acorn
#

I cannot em4

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Man

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This suxks

sinful zodiac
#

Reject em4, embrace speedrun

quiet acorn
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wha if i told you this was unironically the better half of the fight

sinful zodiac
#

there is a sword tech that angel mentioned

quiet acorn
#

thats for after you are capable of performing a dash strike

sinful zodiac
#

I still can't do that 2+ dash strike on the same target

quiet acorn
#

i still cant do a dash strike on a target

sinful zodiac
#

i click every single attack like an ADHD kid

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except rail and fist ofc

quiet acorn
#

i click for rail sometimes

frank verge
#

For Charon 32 heat should I use gods pride or the duo boon one

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Also privileged status or family favorite ?

sinful zodiac
#

for pstatus, go dio special, aphro attack

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fish for low tolerance

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for this, you can go god legacy because dio special doesn't care about rarity

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to complement that build, you can take an arty crit core boon and ares vengance

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to go for 4 duo boons: curse of nausea, low tolerance, spilitting headache and heart rend

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the second build is god pride with arty special, this build need concentrated volley and ideally some chaos special boon

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can still go for heart rend with aphro attack

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pray hermes give epic swift flourish but you can do without as well

quiet acorn
#

Heartrend is the only real Chiron build

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With epic Swift flourish

sinful zodiac
#

the funny thing is chiron need so many duo boons to compensate for it's playstyle

ashen garnet
#

Could be v decent with thunder flourish if proc cooldown did not exist/was lower (if I remember correctly)

rugged hinge
#

0.2 seconds funny
rama much better

rugged hinge
#

how to luci 32

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im being hard carried by arty special and dio attack rn, made it out of tart with 27 seconds on td2

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i wouldntve survived tart without it

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and also panic

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well ive got athena, dio, and arty, who should i choose for 4th

forest token
#

Not having Zeus attack is the reason why your time sucks lol

forest token
#

get dynoed

quiet acorn
forest token
#

unfortunate

quiet acorn
#

no im just play bad

#

i have enough clips to make a false side sucks playlist with a furies, lernie, hades special compilation

forest token
#

i mean mistakes happen

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achilles hard

#

esp with flurry deleting iframes basically

quiet acorn
#

ill do em4 meme beam with ri0 ap0

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should be free

wispy blade
#

thats the issue

quiet acorn
#

too hard

wispy blade
#

its literally q q space space

quiet acorn
#

thats 2 more butttons

wispy blade
#

for 150% more damage

quiet acorn
#

hm

wispy blade
#

also i would not be doing blades at 50

quiet acorn
#

why not

#

i can consistently get it

wispy blade
#

too mich rng involved

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just do drunk attack

quiet acorn
#

oh

#

maybe

forest token
quiet acorn
#

i mean it is easy

#

just a matter of good rng

#

i spent 3 hours yesterday not getting the duo

quiet acorn
wispy blade
#

because ligjtning sux

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idk

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drunk is nice and consistent

#

and i feel like lightning hits cooldown idk

quiet acorn
#

but like call and smair and jolted

wispy blade
#

you are not getting that bro

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it is 50 heat

#

what pact is this

quiet acorn
#

its just ap1

wispy blade
#

are you on em4

quiet acorn
#

ri1 ap1

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no

wispy blade
#

what r u doing wat

quiet acorn
#

wdym

wispy blade
#

i just did ri2 ap2 dio atk for achilles 50

#

quick and easy

quiet acorn
#

huhgh

wispy blade
#

or u can do this

quiet acorn
#

why not js3 dc2 instaead of ap2

wispy blade
#

what do you need that ap2 takes

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js3 and dc2 suck

#

you need 1 boon and 2 or 3 poms

#

dc2 is an option ig

#

but js is annoying af

quiet acorn
#

every run that i do is just 'do i have enough health and damage to beat hades

wispy blade
#

idk man

#

dad shouldnt be the major roadblock

#

its ely enemies mostly

quiet acorn
#

ely have not been a problem for a very long time

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99% of my runs have hades as roadblock

wispy blade
#

use the specual then

#

ur missing out on loads of dmg

forest token
#

ngl if the problem is a cleaner dad fight then everything is fine as is

#

like just keep doing what you're doing since it's been working for the whole run up until dad

#

maybe save state dad

quiet acorn
#

its so hard

#

hades

#

with drunk strike i die to phase 1 after 2 whole mins

#

like the difficulty difference between hades and the rest of the game is insane

#

im going to start resetting for athena dds

#

i even had +3 dashes

quiet acorn
#

the solution turned out to be ~50% damage reduction and 2 extra dds and 400 max hp

hollow owl
wispy blade
#

thats how i play

sinful zodiac
#

Just wait for me to cook up a 50 meme beam run with em4 ap0 ri0

rugged hinge
#

better idea:
heat 58 td0

#

the 2 hour run

wispy blade
#

routed

sinful zodiac
#

Em4 achilles is fun ron

#

How the hell did the 60 run damageless until phase 3???

nocturne stag
#

Really really skilled gamer

quiet acorn
#

after 30+ boon menus without getting the duo

#

i gave up

sinful zodiac
#

Yeah, tart is way too slow for dem start

#

Especially with dc2

#

I was hoping for zeus start then stumble into dem and arty

quiet acorn
#

artemis atk + flurrry jab can clear js3 dc2 tart pretty reliably

sinful zodiac
#

Havent try that yet

#

Was playing spicy eris

quiet acorn
#

Real people play serrated point

nocturne stag
#

Real gamers do dash only hitless 32 heat

sinful zodiac
#

achilles is kinda fun once you get the hang of it

#

extremely versatile and adhd gameplay

sinful zodiac
#

meme beam without glacial glare is just meme

#

had to sold RD at ely zagcry

quiet acorn
#

just reset lol

sinful zodiac
#

really funny game

#

freakin ares call

quiet acorn
#

sword got to be the worst aspect in the game

#

weapon

#

it sucks that dash strikes are disabled in boss rooms

ancient owl
sinful zodiac
#

nah, but it's really dangerous to dash strike boss

#

you must have a solid understanding of bosses pattern to dash strike without getting spanked

quiet acorn
#

The universe constantly conspires against me

clever otter
#

That definitely sounds like a bug

somber kraken
#

oh yeah I found out if you hold space and press attk twice u won't dash strike twice

quiet acorn
clever otter
somber kraken
sinful zodiac
#

I bookmarked this ages ago but haven't watched it yet, probably can help you with that issue

quiet acorn
#

streak killed by literally 0 skips ☹️

ashen garnet
#

Abyssal and long knuckles while building ME?

quiet acorn
#

i was too lazy to check and change lol

#

would have probably saved the run

#

i would still keep abyssal though since my usual chokepoints are furies, lernie and hades

sinful zodiac
#

all weps 50 seem painful, have no clue how I will do sword 50

#

or fist for that matter

#

even with the luck of my luci run, sword is kinda ron

quiet acorn
#

arthur seems free

#

all my arthur attempts died to not getting patty in elysium and either dying to hades or em3

sinful zodiac
#

you were right, lernie is so free with arthur

#

zoomin fr

quiet acorn
#

ri2 is free heat as well

sinful zodiac
#

god damn bull, spin like 10 times

#

patty carried fr

#

3 min heros

quiet acorn
#

Was that first try

#

Damn

sinful zodiac
#

6:05 aspho exit, you tend to have a lot of leeway for ely

quiet acorn
#

I will try ap2 ri2 js0 cp0

sinful zodiac
#

My ely was straight up garbage

#

Thank god c30 patty

#

I would have died otherwise

quiet acorn
sinful zodiac
#

I got the same thing lmao

#

Oh patty almighty

quiet acorn
#

Oh just realized that c33

sinful zodiac
#

kinda funny I played so much em4 zeus now em3 feel so weird

#

the corner hug strat doesn't work nearly as well with em4

#

feel like a mirrorless em3 is kinda funny but more doable than ri3 62

quiet acorn
#

casual 58 heat

sinful zodiac
#

you kinda don't need jolted for em3 so this is not nearly as hard as 55 em4 imo

#

and I wouldn't say casual, most of my non ri0 run died at tart

#

ri4 alecto with tis support is horrifying

quiet acorn
#

today i died to hades with eris and close the game for the day

wispy blade
#

do speedrun

#

fun

quiet acorn
#

yea

sinful zodiac
#

the only thing that is less frustrating between speedrun and heat is you can actually finish the run if you want to

#

I tried beo for almost 2 hours with no sub4 aspho exit

quiet acorn
#

speedrunning is more consistent in terms of what u have to do and build so u can just do the same thing over and over and perfect it i gues

sinful zodiac
#

yeah, going fast is just byproduct of climbing heat but to go really fast is a much more painful grind

#

zyru with over 6500 reset just for a 10 secs lower pb

#

even mysterra was impressed with jazz zeus pb and he IS the best zeus player

forest token
#

4 min aspho leave is like for sub8

sinful zodiac
#

maybe like sub 7 after 2-3 week, sub8 rn

forest token
#

Yeah I wouldn't stress about sub4 aspho leave that much as long as it's like around 4 mins

sinful zodiac
#

3:20 dad, man beowulf is good

wispy blade
sinful zodiac
#

yeah

wispy blade
#

timothy just posted 50 heat rama with 49s dad

#

that was insane

sinful zodiac
#

oh yeah, haven't watched it but I've seen the win screen

#

evil lama dethrone arc

shy gulch
#

holy bright01 vod

#

ancient lore

sinful zodiac
#

bballs and sneak moment, oh well

forest token
#

damn

#

solid build tho

sinful zodiac
#

I died but this is a good savestate

forest token
#

good time despite no jolted

#

lmao true

sinful zodiac
#

dio call erebus gate chamber 1

forest token
#

based

wispy blade
#

whats really impressive is how u made it this far without high voltage

#

the best boon in the game

sinful zodiac
#

game magazine moment residentzag

wispy blade
#

they even got the Explosive Return which does Your Special deals 50 damage to nearby foes when you catch it.

quiet acorn
sinful zodiac
#

not enough time

forest token
#

5 min dad fight sounds reasonable i thought

wispy blade
#

no jolted tho

sinful zodiac
#

jolted usually about a third of your damage

forest token
#

lvl 9 heroic flourish kinda jolted

wispy blade
#

that special do be juiced af tho

forest token
#

like yeah i get jolted but also like

#

epic fourish with half the poms and common jolted probably evens out?

#

kinda depends i guess

sinful zodiac
#

probably, but in my mind, a faster fight is a safer fight, espically with bballs

#

this is a safer gamble in a weird way in my mind

forest token
#

fair i guess

#

just git gud and dont git hit

#

you're like quite literally 2 shot from death by dad lmao

sinful zodiac
#

lv9 red spec is only 103

forest token
#

oh really

sinful zodiac
#

the diminishing return strike again

forest token
#

that's kinda sad

#

i thought it'd be like 120

#

yeah no jolted really be a kicker

sinful zodiac
#

even a common jolted would be better since pom is kinda sad after lv4

#

on anything that's not cast

forest token
#

yeah common jolted is like 56

#

which is like

wispy blade
#

60

forest token
#

lvl 2 epic flourish lmao

#

yeah jolted kinda good

#

good boon is good who would've thunk

sinful zodiac
#

dstrike is the last boon so the heros fight was stupidly dangerous

forest token
#

ngl the time you made getting there without jolted is pretty good

#

i feel like with acorn it's still probably doable

#

but also i have no clue about anything about that high heat

sinful zodiac
#

I skipped most of aspho so the time is kinda good

forest token
#

makes sense

forest token
#

50 hestia, what sell

#

special or battle rage

#

battle rage would mean faster rooms but no special kinda sad

#

also have 42% lunge

#

and bought atk jerky

quiet acorn
#

oh is it unmodded

forest token
#

yea

#

i sold battle rage

#

and then got it again in aspho midboss just now

#

but i'm prob gonna have to sell it for uc again lmao

quiet acorn
#

stonks

wispy blade
forest token
#

nope

#

aspho hammer

#

and it was spread vs flurry lmao

wispy blade
#

id consider selling the special just a little bit

#

since no hammer rail special sucks

#

but im not in the run so i cant tell how much battle rage is helping

forest token
#

i mean it was tart at that point

#

so like battle rage vs no battle rage is kinda the same lmao

#

at least similar for majority

#

died to lernie lmao

wispy blade
#

gg

forest token
#

ri sucks

#

and cp2 i guess

quiet acorn
#

unmodddeed sucks

forest token
#

ngl unmodded vs modded isn't that big of a deal atm lmao

#

i guess like

quiet acorn
#

cp2

forest token
#

getting vorimed

#

that's probably the part i hate the most