#h1-for-new-players

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muted pivot
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alright well idk then

sweet brook
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could still get crap rng tho lol

muted pivot
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i dont like ME builds because its really painful to get everything for it

swift stirrup
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true

muted pivot
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if you really want to focus on getting the duo you can run legacy and it will still be fine

sweet brook
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if you're running nemesis and want ME i'd go legacy because if you commit to ME and dont get it then you're toast

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with demeter fists you at least have a super chunky special

dusty vault
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Doom is fine alone, will take a while but still

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And you still have 2 athena boons so is safe

muted pivot
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yeah i wouldnt say youre toast lol

sweet brook
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i mean fair but it'd be extremely slow compared to nearly any other build

muted pivot
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welcome to ME

sweet brook
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that's why i dont run it lol

muted pivot
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sucks unless you get that duo

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same lmao

sweet brook
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i remember one time i got such bad rng that i didn't get ddash or ME and got promptly slapped by the end boss lmao

swift stirrup
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i had an easier time getting it without the 10% smh

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game hates me

muted pivot
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i only run ME on stupid things

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like chiron or lucifer

sweet brook
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lmao naturally

muted pivot
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ngl though you get some fat doom numbers on those from dire misfortune

sweet brook
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it stacks like what +14 or something each time?

muted pivot
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just hard to proc ME lmao

muted pivot
sweet brook
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14*7 is 98 extra damage from 1 special, another 112 for each afterward but then by the time you slap them again with your athena attack it'll proc itself at that point probably lol

muted pivot
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with all the buffs you get doom numbers around like 600+ lol

sweet brook
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wait what about that aphrodite ares duo

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hits like 3 more times for 30% of the doom damage each time right?

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that could be pretty good damage over time on chiron

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esp with PS

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since i suck with chiron do you want to give that a try lol

muted pivot
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idk how curse of longing works

sweet brook
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if they're weak then they get hit with doom like 3 or something extra times but it's reduced damage each time

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Your Doom effects continuously strike Weak foes.
Successive Hit Damage: 50%
(To clarify, each successive Doom hit will deal 50% of the previous one.)

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ah 50% of the previous

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well if it hits again twice that'd be +75% more doom ddamage

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so that's not bad if your doom numbers are 600+ lol

muted pivot
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oh weird

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is aphro dash a prereq?

sweet brook
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Aphrodite: Heartbreak Strike, Heartbreak Flourish, Crush Shot, or Passion Dash
Ares: Curse of Agony or Curse of Pain

muted pivot
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hmm

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ill give it a shot

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this is going to be awful lmao

sweet brook
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in theory it doesn't sound too stupid but we both know this is very stupid lol

muted pivot
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this is so painful

sweet brook
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lmfao

muted pivot
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lmao i never even got the duo

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gaming

sweet brook
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gaming

muted pivot
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that was so painful

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never again am i trying ME chrion

sweet brook
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luckily this is curse of longing

swift stirrup
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wait for ME

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its divine strike/flourish

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and not dash???

sweet brook
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yes

swift stirrup
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omg

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im gonna kms

sweet brook
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the dash makes ME good, but you can't get ME if you only have the dash

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i heard they had to nerf the conditions for ME because of how strong it was

swift stirrup
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i see

gray haven
pliant shale
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I always die at temple of styx it's so paifu;

dusk onyx
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why are boss rooms in styx easier than normal ones?

viscid notch
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Because they're fast and predictable

gray haven
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Less chaotic because there's way fewer enemies.

zenith sparrow
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hello gamers

merry roost
zenith sparrow
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i did that yesterday

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kekw

merry roost
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Oh dope

leaden whale
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Styx room has too many traps i hate it

near fox
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Bro poison da worst

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The traps in styx tho. I fall for them every time

solemn maple
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I am so bad at fishing in every single game, this one is no exception- any tips on how to git gud with the fishies?

sweet brook
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when you hear a ding hit the button

merry roost
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Much easier to do based on the sound, yeah

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Personally I look away from the screen while fishing

somber frigate
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If it’s bobbed three times already it’s guaranteed the next one will be the fish

gray haven
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Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide

There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.

muted pivot
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lol time to add that to the list of guides

gray haven
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Already done. dusa

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To my own list anyway. Dunno if there's another one.

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Welcome! dusa

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Well, you're not really expected to get super far early on while you're still upgrading your mirror and stuff.

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You can check the pins in this channel for a couple guides of mine for newbies that I think will answer your question and also give you some pointers that will help. squirtnya

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On a scale of 1–10, I would rate Hades a Lady Aphrodite is the main character.

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Literally the first pin has tiers for weapon aspects at different levels.

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Can you see the weapon aspects yet?

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They'll unlock once you've unlocked all 6 weapons, but you need to do another run and come back to the House of Hades to be able to unlock aspects with Titan Blood.

sweet brook
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i heard that someone's working on a mod for multiplayer which is pretty neat

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other than that i have no clue how it's gonna work

junior turtle
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i have quest: use all buffs from Daedalus for Aegis shield
can i pick one type of shield and roll all hammer buffs
or some buffs appear for specific type of shield?

muted pivot
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no, some dont work with some of the aspects

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like you can use charged flight on zeus

zenith sparrow
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All weapons are insane in their own way
sword is a good middle ground, jack of all trades
spear is clunky but has much more range than the sword,
shield offers extreme mobility at the cost of low ranged options
Bow offers inane raned options with a lack of multi hit options
fists offer great amounts of aoe and combos as well as mobility but lack in range
railgun offers great sustained damage over range and good aoe but a lack of overall dps.

gray haven
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Don't agree with much of that tbh.

random copper
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first try hera crush shot

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les goo

leaden whale
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depends do you like range the bow or rail, up close & personal the sword and fists, or do you want something iin the middle shield & spear.

rapid wedge
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hello. i m looking for weapon tier list pls

merry roost
rapid wedge
merry roost
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Yeah Hera is amazing. I think Aphrodite's Cast is the easiest to use with it, but there are other options.

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I am not, however, an expert

sweet brook
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hera is good if you like bow

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it's just like normal bow but with big damage

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honestly all the aspects are pretty good at level 1 or 2 except for like chaos, hades, and most of the zag aspects

merry roost
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I do like Zag Rail tho

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Keep in mind that your playstyle may not be perfectly in line with the recommendation list, and if you don't like the Hera bow, you can always try another weapon @rapid wedge

sweet brook
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zag rail isn't bad, more bullets = more damage
but also eris can give a universal damage boost if you blast yourself with a special so just use eris lol

sweet brook
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everyone praises how good eris is but i just dont like rail lmao

rapid wedge
merry roost
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Hera is a good start then, for sure

topaz jasper
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overall shield bow and gun are the best weapons

sweet brook
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I don't think you can get Hera with only 2 titan blood isn't it like 3

merry roost
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Oh I don't remember that

muted pivot
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oops forgot to spoiler mb

somber frigate
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I mean ||nuke|| is kinda the best weapon but thats not really accessible at this point in the game

muted pivot
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thats a good point

carmine wave
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I dont have a screenshot bc im playing on ps4, but one of my death defiances has an Athena sign in it , but i dont remember taking any boons from her that could give me a death defiance, does anybody know what it could be?

sweet brook
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she has 2 boons that can refill a death defiance

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one of them you restore more hp when you use DD, the other you become invincible for a few seconds after you use DD

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and with both you get a free one from her

carmine wave
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oh ok i got the "more hp when you use DD" i didnt know it gave one too but hey im not complaining

sweet brook
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lmao yeah

carmine wave
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||charon fight|| in asphodel maybe wasnt the greatest idea

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the bonus DD from athena is what made me survive

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i still have no idea how to deal with that fight

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any tips?

carmine wave
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how do u get achiles to say the funny words to get the 4th spear

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i have all the other requirements

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at least im pretty sure

muted pivot
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put 5 blood into non zag aspects on any weapon, reach the surface, then just go through a ton of dialogue of his until he gives you the waking phrase

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it can take a longggg time

carmine wave
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once i got to the surface once can i just die in 4 seconds for a bunch of runs until he gives it or do i have to go to the surface every single run to have a chance at unlocking it

dusty vault
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Only once

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||Also for hidden spear is unlocking 5 apsects across all weapons, not invest 5 blood||

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Also needs list of minor prophecies

carmine wave
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alr well as i said i have all the other requirements so i guess im just gonna murder Zagreus a bunch of times

dusty vault
carmine wave
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alr thx

carmine wave
muted pivot
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nice

carmine wave
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oh wtf

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-70% hp

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moment

muted pivot
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max upgrades its -50% hp

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which isnt bad because its a very safe aspect

carmine wave
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well it looks strong

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but im 1 titan blood short anyway so i guess i cant try it out rn

dusk onyx
viscid notch
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Aspect of Chaos at low level is miserable

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I wouldn't recommend it

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Even at max level the damage is not very good compared to other weapons

pliant shale
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I like aegis a lot

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I can block dash and damage

viscid notch
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The shield is strong, that specific shield is the weakest

pliant shale
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I use aspect of zeus rn

viscid notch
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Much stronger

zenith sparrow
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im currently rocking zag shield

proven pivot
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Nice

rich loom
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which aspect should i use i just got into heat

swift stirrup
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i mean

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early heat is just

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use whatever rlly

muted pivot
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yep pretty much

rich loom
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any build idea to make it easier?

tawny acorn
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Had a built with adamant rail curse of agony Inpending doom and fire misfortune and at times a Doom effect dealt up to 600 damage

swift stirrup
sweet brook
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just keep what you're doing and take that

rich loom
sweet brook
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Merciful end on fist is gonna be the fastest

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And strongest

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And most high roll

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Demeter fist preferably but any of them work tbh

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Spear you can probably also do the same thing with Achilles aspect

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Or you can use a cast build with Achilles aspect

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Hunting blades, ||crystal beams||, zeus or Athena cast and their duo

swift stirrup
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ME is all around a good duo for insane dmg

rich loom
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Hmm

sweet brook
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For melee builds yeah

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It's just difficult to get

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And if you don't get it it'll just suck lol

zenith sparrow
sweet brook
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it's an aspect

sweet brook
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okay that one yeah

rich loom
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got it on the first try

sweet brook
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nice

carmine wave
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what is ''dark thirst''

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theres a renovation that says it gives 20% more gems

viscid notch
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You can see it around weapons when you're in the courtyard

carmine wave
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oh ok thats what its called

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thanks!

leaden whale
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any tips for first time players?

muted pivot
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you get i-frames when you dash, but you dont if you dash strike

carmine wave
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is it posssible to level up duo and legendary boons?

muted pivot
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no

carmine wave
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ok

merry roost
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Imagine if you could level Sweet Nectar

spring forge
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Does your powers reset when you die? I feel like I get stronger, but some of my abilities seem to reset after I die and try again

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I'm very bad at fighting games so it's a very slow process for me if some things reset

merry roost
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Things on your mirror do not reset

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If you picked it up during the run, it resets when you die

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But there are some items you keep like darkness, gems, etc.

maiden ruin
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Hades is not a fighting game thanthink

spring forge
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Ah- T.T So the boons the gods give are temporary

merry roost
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But you do fight things

maiden ruin
merry roost
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Your terms are acceptable

spring forge
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Ok- let me rephrase- I'm not good at the fighting aspect of this game.

merry roost
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You can get keepsake that you can equip from each Olympian that makes them guaranteed to appear once + give higher chance at greater boon rarity by giving them a Nectar. You get to keep the keepsake forever btw. (The Keepsake for Hermes does something different, because forcing Hermes to appear would be busted)

spring forge
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Oh, yeah- that much I get 🙂

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I thought the god's boons all stayed and was confused when I restarted weak again

merry roost
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Unfortunately no. But the luck aspect of the game is a big part of the fun when you get used to it

spring forge
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At the moment I don't mind it cause the art is so beautiful, and I love the commentary

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I'm dying a lot though

merry roost
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Don't feel too bad about that, it's quite normal to die a lot early on

viscid notch
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Basically meta rewards are Darkness Gemstones Keys Nectar Diamonds Titan Blood Ambrosia, anything you buy with these is permanent, the rest is temporary and resets when you start a new run

spring forge
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nods and memories of petting cerberus

muted pivot
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oh with an enemy

merry roost
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There's an achievement for petting him enough times. Do it twice as many times as that.

spring forge
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I'm... not good at the fighting. I feel like I key mash a lot cause I don't have the skill level to do what is required fast enough, and I rely on HP boosts to not die.

viscid notch
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That’s most people, you’re still starting out, you get better with practice

spring forge
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Here's to hoping.

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Dragon Age Inquisition on easy mode was hard for me XD

merry roost
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Don't be afraid to use the God Mode setting

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No shame in God Mode

spring forge
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It took forever to get past the first boss fight in Witcher 3 with the griffon XD

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I... don't understand godmode though- that's temporary, right?

merry roost
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It's a setting you can turn on or off whenever you want

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It increases your damage resistance, and it gets stronger the more times you've died

spring forge
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Where do I turn it on?

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I'm on PC with a logitech controler

viscid notch
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Open up the menu and choose settings

merry roost
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Oh idk what the pause button is on PC

viscid notch
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Should be right there

spring forge
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It has a pause feature? Oh man, I'm still so green with modern gaming

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I got my vision fixed abotu 6 years ago, and I'm very slow catching up on modern gaming ^^;

viscid notch
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You can Pause yea, it’s Esc on your keyboard or Start on controller

spring forge
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Thank you 🙂

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The furtherest into the dungeon I've gotten is ||Meg||- are they one of the boss fights? My friends told me I'd know when I got those. There's also ||that huge gem||

viscid notch
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Yes

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Meg is the first boss

spring forge
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(Not sure if they're spoiler worthy? ^^;)

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Ah- not spoiler worthy 🙂

sweet brook
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I'm pretty sure chambers 12 22 and 34 are right before a free room to the boss so if you want to keep track where you are you can check what chamber you're in

viscid notch
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Yup

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You can also tell by the door

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A door with a boss behind it has a skull and a star

spring forge
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OH

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That's what that symbol means

viscid notch
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Yes

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There are various symbols

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For minibosses/elite rooms etc

spring forge
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saves to phone

viscid notch
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There are some guides pinned in this channel too

sweet brook
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mostly weapon guides i think

topaz jasper
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difficult encounter only appears for blue laurel right?

viscid notch
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Yes

topaz jasper
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huh I didn't know it actually increased difficulty

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so bad for ||heat||/speedrunning unless it's really important nectar/key vs darkness/gems

viscid notch
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It’s better

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Because it’s always armored

topaz jasper
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oh less waves

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huh nice

viscid notch
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And some enemies are not allowed to spawn there

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But regardless, the general consensus is to take whatever you need

topaz jasper
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I see

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they should double +gold laurel reward as well smh

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I want +10hp

viscid notch
topaz jasper
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good catch

viscid notch
# viscid notch It’s better

And this is obviously not 100% the case, but it’s supposed to be, comparing 2 rooms when you only get to see whats behind one of them is tough, and not much thought has gone into this by the community, enemy types and tiles etc are too much to take into account so it’s not seen as a big deal

topaz jasper
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I see

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so basically too many variables to take into account so just ignore "increased difficulty" when you don't care about the actual blue laurel rewards

viscid notch
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Yea pretty much, if you see something you need like a key, take it, even if it’s not an elite room, if you don’t need either options take the elite one

spring forge
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I'll be excited if I manage to finish the game XD I'm not here for laurels XD

viscid notch
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You’ll get a good variety of things to try out

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Something will work eventually

spring forge
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Why do some boons cancel out others?

topaz jasper
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like remove effects or not compatible?

muted pivot
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the core boons (the ones in the slots on the left) wont stack with eachother

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so you cant get like ares attack and athena attack

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there are also some boons and hammers that just prevent you from getting others

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like you cant get triple shot and twin shot at the same time

spring forge
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That's fair cause one is an upgrade

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OK, so like, the left side confuses me

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I suppose that's why. I guess I didn't really understand how that worked

viscid notch
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They are the main slots that empower what Zag does, such as the Attack, Special, Cast and Dash, those are known as your core boons and you can only have 1 at a time in each slot as mentioned earlier, sometimes you can get a swap, which might be what confused you

spring forge
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nods

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So if I have an attack power boost, then I take a second power boost, it'll over write it? Or just not offer if?

topaz jasper
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you won't get offered an attack boost usually

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sometimes the game will offer a replacement which is clearly indicated so you won't miss it

viscid notch
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It’ll be a replace yes

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But they’re not likely

viscid notch
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Let’s say you take an Artemis attack, it’ll fill that core slot, let’s say you see an Ares afterwards and take his boon, there is a very high chance that he wont offer an attack replace, instead he’ll offer other core boons such as the Dash or Special for example and a lot of the time gods offer supporting boons that you can see on the side, they don’t fill any slots

spring forge
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I've been so confused XD

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Oh, so I don't need to worry unless it tells me

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Will I know if it's a better boon?

topaz jasper
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yeah you won't ever lose a core slot boon unless you replace it

muted pivot
topaz jasper
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replaced boons will have one higher rarity and be the same level

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heroic boons can't be part of a replacement

spring forge
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So always worth doing

viscid notch
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No

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Not necessarily

topaz jasper
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it's rarely worth it

viscid notch
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You’ll learn with experience what boons go well with what weapons

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But rarity and level and numbers don’t mean a whole lot

topaz jasper
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if it's on a core boon you're using you usually hand picked the god you want on that slot

viscid notch
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Synergies matter more

spring forge
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S....ynergies?

muted pivot
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"the interaction or cooperation of two or more organizations, substances, or other agents to produce a combined effect greater than the sum of their separate effects."

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thats a terrible definition

spring forge
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YUP

muted pivot
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too many big words

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1+1=3 essentially

topaz jasper
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synergies are a hoax invented by big olympus to sell us more duo boons

muted pivot
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lmaoo

spring forge
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So keeping the boons from different gods is good

viscid notch
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Just your boons working together and your build making sense

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Not just random stuff thrown around

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But it takes time to get there

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And influencing builds without a fully upgraded mirror is tricky so don’t worry too much about it, just try to get a general idea of what goes where

spring forge
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I just got the next rank in the mirror. Only missing death defiance

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*the last death defiance

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The 500 orb one

viscid notch
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Nice

spring forge
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180 orbs in 🤞

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The dying and coming back to try again is a cool way of not needing save files ❤️

viscid notch
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Try to unlock all the base weapons, they’re cheap compared to the later ranks of the mirror

topaz jasper
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also gives you access to aspects which are great

spring forge
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Oh, OK. I'll focus more on the weapons then :)

spring forge
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Oh man- I want to look at the fan art but can't cause I have no idea who some of the characters are still T.T

spring forge
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Oh- I got the gauntlets and I managed to defeat Meg twice in a row! ||I keep running into lava thoguh ^^;||

rapid wedge
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is there a Heat guide? what to choose first from easiest to most difficult?

slate briar
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|| At beginner very low heat it may be useful to simply try some out to see how you handle them. Typically HL, TD, MM, CF, BP1, EM2 are good to start with. See the pins for a guide to the acronyms ||

frosty girder
sweet brook
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more of both tbh

rapid wedge
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whats the best way to farm Darkness? Should I quit after Tartarus and start again, or go along till the end?

topaz jasper
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look for chaos eclipse boons

rapid wedge
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looking for the best combo of Mirror of Darkness?

sweet brook
# rapid wedge whats the best way to farm Darkness? Should I quit after Tartarus and start agai...

first of all, hitting "quit" just sends you to the title screen, hitting "give up" makes you lose all your progress so no point in hitting either. you'd have to die in order to start again and keep your progress
secondly, like what snapnova said, chaos eclipse boons will give you a % bonus to rewards.
another way to increase this is ocean's bounty from poseidon to increase the % you get. sunken treasure from poseidon also gives you resources but doesn't incrase the % you get

muted pivot
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the main reason you just play the run in full is because later bosses give way more darkness

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meg gives like 60 and ||hades|| gives like 300

sweet brook
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spoiler that last one

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also if you're trying to farm darkness would it be better to turn off dark foresight

muted pivot
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probably not because you get slower runs, and most of your darkness comes from bosses

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you get almost none from actual rooms

sweet brook
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i mean fair but with enough % bonuses the 10/12 can turn into a decent number can't it

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and if you're farming darkness the speed doesn't matter too much does it

muted pivot
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well the speed does matter because the more runs you get in the more darkness you get

sweet brook
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true i guess

opal ether
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Is this best with controllers?

viscid notch
random copper
steep musk
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Yea w

rapid wedge
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who is the last one in the Codex Others of Note?

muted pivot
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someone you will meet later

spring forge
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Oh, I see what you guys mean by it now

rapid wedge
muted pivot
rapid wedge
viscid notch
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Just play more

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Get more wins

random copper
pulsar sparrow
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hello guys whats the best weapon for the first run

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i use the fists

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i have 20 attempts so far and i consistently get to elusyism or whatever

spring forge
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Hah- 20 attempts. Was I suppose to get it in 20 attempts? I must really be a bad player T.T

pulsar sparrow
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what are u at rn

spring forge
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I just got past Meg XD

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I'm not good at games though. I didn't buy games for a long time cause I played Tombraider and could never finish it cause it was too hard for me. I'm only playing Hades cause I'm told that you get stronger and stronger the more you play it

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I didn't want to play for ages cause I'm very bad at games that require playing computer games for years prior 😦

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I haven't found god mode yet, but I'm having a lot of fun ^^

sweet brook
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Everyone advances at their own pace, no need to be in any rush

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Some can finish their first run below 20, others need more time and there's no shame in that

sweet brook
# pulsar sparrow i use the fists

Merciful end is one of the strongest builds for fists but needs a lot of luck to work correctly
Ares attack, Athena special, duo boon ME and then get the dash

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If you don't get ME by the time you get to the boss of Elysium then it's gonna be painful but doable still

pulsar sparrow
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that skunds very difficult

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is spear good

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what doess ares attack and athena special mean

sweet brook
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Spear is alright, Achilles aspect is pretty strong

sweet brook
pulsar sparrow
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oh dam

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what weapon is the best in general

sweet brook
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There is none

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It's all personal preference and play style

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If you like the fists then sure use them

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Getting merciful end for your fists isn't too difficult tbh it's more of getting every other helpful boon to appear

topaz jasper
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for first clear shield and bow stand out

pulsar sparrow
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what gun

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theres a gun

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how do i unlock the gun

topaz jasper
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unlock all the weapons you see

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then do runs

pulsar sparrow
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Ok thanks

opal ether
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Is it always like that when you die? You get to defeat MEG again?

sweet brook
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yep

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welcome to the world of rogue-likes/lites or whatever the genre name is lol

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every time you die you start at the beginning but you'll also progress the story

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and ofc the mirror upgrades, weapons, keepsakes, etc

opal ether
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I've defeated meg for about 30-40 tries. Haha. Goodluck 😄

opal ether
#

If I keep collecting keys and dark crystals I can easily progress in the game right?

viscid notch
dusk onyx
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hwat to use titan blood for?

viscid notch
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If you don’t have them then buy the Rail and do a run, should unlock them

dusk onyx
#

||i beat hades for the 3rd time now and with heat so i have some blood left... buyed shield of caos and eris gun and poseidon sword but i dont feel like buying the others for now cuz i wont use them.... is there a weapon that is worth upgrading and can be op with enaugh blood spent||

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i was typing

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:)

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i have them

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also how to unlock secret aspects

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i only unlocked the spear one

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and i dont even know it i want to use it...

viscid notch
dusk onyx
#

reduced healt sounds pretty bad

viscid notch
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Achilles, Nem, Demeter fists, Zeus shield are all top tier weapons

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All of the bows are also fine, Chiron likes levels out of those

dusk onyx
#

i honestly dont like the zeus shield.... dont know how to use it and the damage is to small

viscid notch
#

Zeus shield is tough to play

dusk onyx
#

yeah

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i love chaos and zag shield tho...

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feels more natural to use

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and combining attack->weakness and special->doom is a broken combination... at least it can be

dusk ibex
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what weapon is beginner friendly ?

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I think bow is the one hard to use..

dusk onyx
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shield

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and spea

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r

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feel good to use on the start

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combine with some good boons and bam beat the game

dusk ibex
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do this game have mechasim like perfect block or perfect dodge ?

dusk onyx
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wel.. yes and no

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theres no perfect dodge that would give you another bonus

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but

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while dashing you are invincible

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not when the dash stops... and if you attack while dshing you can get damage

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but if you just dash like crazy technicly they cant hit you....

viscid notch
#

A perfect block does not really exist tho, if you’re thinking of something like a parry, it’s not a thing in Hades

viscid notch
# dusk ibex what weapon is beginner friendly ?

For beginner weapons Sword and Bow are definitely on the tougher side, they both have stricter rhythms compared to the rest of the weapons so they feel clunky when not played very well, for Sword you want to be using Dash strikes, your rotation would be normally something like Special > x2 Dash-strikes with a Cast for Boiling Blood on tougher enemies and bosses, for Bows you also want to be dash-striking, and you want to be hitting powershots for extra damage

viscid notch
# dusk onyx i love chaos and zag shield tho...

They can be alright, they have more hammer reliance because they really want Charged Shot if you want to compare to Zeus Shield, Chaos Shield's whole Special gimmick is pretty underwhelming tho, the damage is just weak

dusk onyx
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i dont really care about chaos aspect

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its the same bul a little better i guess

viscid notch
#

Zag Shield and Chaos Shield Special unfortunately has very low base damage, and if you use it you're not allowed to use your Shield until it's back, so it's a hassle, the general idea is to put Flat Damage on it instead of buffing its base damage, which is good, but even putting Flat Damage on the attack instead and ignoring the Special would do a better job at dealing damage than the Special, but either way, you can play however you want, as long as you're having fun

dusk onyx
#
  • epic deal 90% more doom but 0,5sec slower
gray haven
opal ether
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How do you enable athena after escape? I've seen videos and the first powerup is athena.

viscid notch
#

And the same goes for any Olympian God except Hermes

opal ether
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So there is only 4 stages on the game?

dusk onyx
#

well yeah

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4 areas+ few secret ones but thats spoilers

opal ether
#

Does boon overwrites each other even if does not says "will replace"? Or it will just stack?

sweet brook
#

only the core boons can be overwritten

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and it'll say "will replace" whatever

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if you're offered an attack boon from artemis and you already have an attack boon from athena, then it will be a replacement

opal ether
sweet brook
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well not for the same core boon

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attack, special, cast, dash, and call

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every other thing you can have multiple gods for
you can take say, static discharge from zeus and pressure points from artemis just fine. as long as it's not one of those 5 core boons

merry roost
#

There are some Duos that are incompatible with other Duos as well I think

sweet brook
#

yeah

opal ether
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Cause when I see my boon's list the other boon is gone. Does that mean it stacks? I'm talking about boons without "will replace" thingy.

merry roost
#

If it says "Will replace" you keep the new one, and the old one is gone

sweet brook
#

there's a button to pull up every boon you've collected that run, both boons should be there

merry roost
#

But other than that

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Sorry I misread

opal ether
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Thank you guys!

west vessel
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i got one of the best run

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it was sooo fun

pulsar sparrow
#

omg i was so close to beating the elysium boss

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so hard

west vessel
pulsar sparrow
#

I MADE IT TO ELYSIUM WITHOUT DYING ONCE OMG

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ITS TIME

proven pivot
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You got this!

latent berry
#

What weapon are you using?! What's your build?! I'm hyped!

pulsar sparrow
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OK 3 LIVES FINAL BOSS TIME

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well not final but

latent berry
pulsar sparrow
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NOOOOOOOOOO

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I LOOOOST IM SO BAD

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😭😭

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||theseus|| is so strong for no reason

sweet brook
pulsar sparrow
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OKOK

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i put on dion keepsake rn

sweet brook
#

And if you can privileged status in the mirror

pulsar sparrow
#

what does that do

sweet brook
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When an enemy has 2 status effects on them they take more damage

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At max level it does +40% more damage

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It's counter part is family favorites, which is also good but since you're applying 2 status effects PS is better

pulsar sparrow
sweet brook
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You honestly don't need it as long as you have the core of Aphrodite atk Dionysus special

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But it's a very nice bonus

serene oasis
#

is there any way how to see your hammer upgrades ?

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when i press b its show just my boons

long pagoda
#

h

serene oasis
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i am idiot

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its b

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bruh moment

dusk onyx
#

better question.... is there a way to see all hammer upgrades possible?

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like in that book with characters and gods

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also who to gift ambrosia to?

mellow ether
viscid notch
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Nope

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You'll have to check the wiki

dusk ibex
#

is there any progress after we kill hades ? like..new level and new bosses?

coarse kelp
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||you get the pact of punishment||

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And each run will always be different from the rest just because of how the game works

twin chasm
random copper
opal ether
#

How many lives hades has? made it to the 2nd hades.

Hangover is good in this game as it works like a poison.

grave storm
#

hangover is great, the benefit per pom doesn't decay past the 2nd or 3rd

lyric locust
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So I am very new, like 6 hours in or so. Just died to the 3rd boss encounter - I had +2 hp healing and I thought I was doing alright overall, but then their damage to me just scaled too hard. Should I be focusing on a specific starting god via their keepsake for better attempts at runs, or stick with Cerb keepsake for +max Hps etc?

twin chasm
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Use the skelly keepsake

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Its a free extra life

dusty vault
#

starting with gods is good yeah

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most of the time is first 2 biomes with god keepsakes (for any duo you wanna shoot/if they work for a build) then the rest is defensive keepsakes

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like tooth/acorn/etc

fluid pewter
#

Builds that require u to stand still is so much more newbie friendly

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Those dash strike builds dont work for me ;-;

fluid pewter
fluid pewter
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It makes it easier to learn the boss moves if u havent already and is way safer

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Examples r fist with zeus attack

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Or sword with the rapid slash upgrade forgot its name.U could add the healing upgrade as well cuz it works welll with it

pulsar sparrow
#

lets goooo i got aspect of chiron level 3 @sweet brook

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dio special aphro attack right?

topaz jasper
#

yep

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tag enemy with attack, spam specials into them

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with dio special it can be better to only special once or twice per tag

lyric locust
#

It feel like boss #3 is a significant spike in difficulty.

merry roost
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It is that way for a lot of people, yeah. Kill Asterius first, and put a pillar between yourself and Theseus when there's a crosshair on you.

lyric locust
#

And the final boss hits like a truck. 80 damage a swing. It went through all 3 of my extra lives and I didn't make much progress.

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Granted, I wasn't expecting nor planning to one shot them.

merry roost
#

Yeah final boss is a doozy. I think the pronouns are considered spoils here? Idk for sure

#

Just for the final boss tho

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And anything beyond that

lyric locust
#

I think the most annoying boss is just lava. Wherever there is lava.

merry roost
#

Lava sucks but at least it helps you learn to watch where you step.

dusk onyx
#

ok...

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i have the game for alround 12 days now

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and i played 35 hours of it...

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and i still went to work almost every day....

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thats a little too much of playtime right?

merry roost
#

That sounds like most of your free time, but a little less if you just played an awful lot on the weekends, still you could probably stand to do other things as well

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The game isn't going anywhere

dusk onyx
#

oh and i havent played hades in last 2 days so... 35h in 10 days

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welp

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just realised that

merry roost
#

It's really easy to get sucked into Hades, but the good news is it's also really easy to be principled with your Hades playtime if you want to, since it saves after each chamber

dusk onyx
#

also i usually dont play this genre... i am nintendo zelda fan.... and i was wandering...

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is it bad if i played the game for that much time and had alround 50 runs already

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and i oonly beat the game 3 times?

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and it was like 47th attempt to beat it for the first time

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next run i died to shop guy cuz i ||"borrowed money"||

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and then i won last 2 runs somehow

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but i feel like it took me pretty long time to actually win.... waay to much time

restive portal
#

Nah. 50 runs for a clear is not out of the ball park. I got first clear at about 50 and got to credits by 80. Once it clicks, it clicks.

dusty vault
#

dont compare yourself to others in how much it took you anyways

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single player game and all of that

restive portal
#

Just don't mess with Charon's sack

dusk onyx
#

XD

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it was just so good looking... had only 1/2 of the life and it was the room before the champions and i was like: oh i wanna but that hearth lemme se whats this money sack about is it free?

dusk onyx
# dusty vault single player game and all of that

thanks... even tho i am always comparing myself and trying to get better... usually i am good at every game i try and when i find a game where i think i could do better or i think im not good at it i get way to competetive and start playing it like crazy without realizing it...

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so far i ahve onyl found like 5 games like that

lyric locust
#

K, plague rats are DESTROYING ME. I do not get how I am supposed to ignore their poison DoT?

merry roost
topaz jasper
#

if styx chambers are causing problems for you try it out

lyric locust
#

Hrm, k.

pulsar sparrow
#

what does prophecy foretold mean

sweet brook
#

You completed something from the fated prophecy or something like that

round jacinth
#

i was wondering if there's a way for me to meet than more often, i'm trying to get his companion but gifting him the necessary nectar has been taking me a while

near fox
#

Have you tried the wretched broker?

round jacinth
#

that's the place where you trade right?

near fox
#

Yes

round jacinth
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i've got the nectar, my problem is i'm not meeting than enough

near fox
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Oh I see

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I think the only thing you can do is die on purpose after you see them so that you can immediately try again

round jacinth
#

ah that would be pretty smart

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just run as many chambers as possible to get as much chances to meet him as possible then?

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does he only spawn in elysium? cuz i don't recall meeting him anywhere else

near fox
round jacinth
#

ah i see

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so i gotta basically speedrun my way to elysium

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that's not gonna be a fun time

near fox
#

Yeah lol elysium isn't exactly the easiest to get to

round jacinth
#

and then when i arrive there after meeting our friendly neighbourhood death incarnate i just dash into the purple butterfly balls and do it all again?

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i'm really just trying to get any companions since i feel like just having 1 will always be better than none, i've tried meg but i can't seem to understand why she spawns in the house of hades and when she doesnt

near fox
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Neither do I, for me, I'm only using nectar once per character to get the keepsakes and once I beat the final boss I'll start to gain more companions starting with the inhabitants of the house of hades

round jacinth
#

yeah that would probably make sense

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i've beaten the game once already

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now i'm just basically getting titan blood on every weapon and then putting the heat 1 more

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also a small tip for any bow users here

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the flurry upgrade at the hammers is super important imo

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without that any bossfight is a pain

#

oh... than just spawned in the first region

#

huh...

#

interesting

rapid wedge
#

looking for a tier list that includes the hidden aspects

solid hill
#

what boons/hammers do you people usually get for aspect of chiron bow? i got to the final boss twice in a row but i keep dying to him because i don't deal enough damage

viscid notch
#

Should also pair up the latter build with Pstatus on the mirror

solid hill
#

that's really helpful, thank you

junior turtle
#

how do open some relatilions with some gods or friends(last heart) i soon finish game with last scene, but half characters doesnt have last heart :C

#

and in book written that i used all dialogs

viscid notch
sick jackal
#

what is a "Duo" rank Boon?

#

like what are the specifics of it? Never seen one until now but it seems really OP. Life regen every 0.8 seconds? Dang

solid hill
#

correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure it's a boon that comes from two different gods

viscid notch
#

And not all duos are op, in fact that Duo is considered one of the very niche weak ones

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You don't need duos to make good builds and have good damage etc

sick jackal
#

Im like, always at max HP

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if I get hit I heal the full damage in like 5 seconds

viscid notch
#

It is only if you have no DDs

sick jackal
#

yeah which you only get one of

#

once it's gone, it's gone

#

so the rest of the run I have permanent life regen

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And yes, I know there' the alt skill that grants one per chamber

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But still, point stands

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Makes it very hard to die

viscid notch
#

Then there you go, that's one of the niche situations where it's quite nice, but when you have 3 DDs and start just overall getting better and getting hit less you tend to barely ever proc that Duo

sick jackal
#

true

round jacinth
#

and i think skelly tooth might also interfere with it

#

i need like 1 more ares boon but i cant seem to get it anywhere... any tips? i've tried the keepsake but still nothin

viscid notch
round jacinth
#

wait what do you mean by filling up the god pool

viscid notch
round jacinth
#

ah that makes sense

viscid notch
#

For a god to be in your god pool you have to take a boon from them, and selling does not remove the god from the pool

round jacinth
#

so i constantly go for god boons when i see them in the doors then?

round jacinth
#

since you can just sell the rest of em

proven pivot
#

Yes. Probably not ideal most of the time though

round jacinth
#

yeah probably

#

i do think having a full dio build would be strong in a lot of fights

viscid notch
# round jacinth so i constantly go for god boons when i see them in the doors then?

Well, you would like decent supporting stuff from the rest of the gods so it's okay to be a bit picky about them, but sometimes yes you just pick up whatever say if you have 3 gods and you need a fourth, you probably wont care much in that case, usually builds revolve around 2 gods, so you kinda want to leave Tartarus with a god of your choice, which you use the keepsake for, and 2 gods that can be decent or are just fillers, then you force another god in Asphodel and there you go, that fills your pool

round jacinth
#

cool!

#

i dont really run builds or anything

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i just see what i can get as i go along

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i dont really have the galaxybrains to semi-plan the entire thing

viscid notch
# round jacinth i do think having a full dio build would be strong in a lot of fights

eh, Hangover stacks override each other, and hangover damage varies a lot depending on the source, the dash is really weak for example but the call is insane, and the attack and special are for specific stuff for the most part, Dio T2s aside from that aren't very amazing, for a hangover build I'd lean more towards other status curses for pstatus and maybe Duo boons

round jacinth
#

i got it to lvl 5 really fast and it was like 36 damage per .5 seconds

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call only lasts 1.5 seconds but the stacks still deal dmg after

proven pivot
#

Advice: Athena is pretty much always good, so if you've got no idea what you'd like and are struggling to clear the game taking her keepsake is good

round jacinth
#

call is very strong

round jacinth
#

athena dash is one of my favorites

viscid notch
#

Yea the Call is something you pick up a just get a lot of value out of it on a lot of builds just because of the sheer damage

round jacinth
#

combined with the one that replenishes a DD

proven pivot
#

It's very good

proven pivot
round jacinth
#

ah could be idk for sure

#

oh i remember

viscid notch
#

Athena is pretty nice

round jacinth
#

one is longer invincibility

#

and the other is more base hp after revive, right?

viscid notch
#

yea

proven pivot
#

Basically all of her boons are very helpful. I'd say her cast is the worst of her boons and even then it isn't bad, it's just less good imo

round jacinth
#

||does the traps extra dmg pact also work on enemies?||

viscid notch
#

No

round jacinth
#

heightened security

round jacinth
viscid notch
#

You should spoiler those tho, in this channel

round jacinth
#

the arrows in elysium do a ton of dmg tho

viscid notch
#

Yes

round jacinth
viscid notch
#

||That's a tough pact, shouldnt take it early||

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One of the very late ones that people learn

round jacinth
#

oh i always take it

#

it was my first one

#

i just learned not to bonk into traps as much

viscid notch
#

I mean it's good to learn, if you get used to it it's basically free

round jacinth
#

ig it forced me to think a bit more

viscid notch
#

But you can never be 100% and sometimes you'll just get yeeted by a trap

round jacinth
#

but it does get hard in like the fury fights mostly

#

and defs in the magma region

proven pivot
#

How fast on average do you complete a run?

round jacinth
#

but i did everything on the ||cerberus region|| to feel extra prepared

viscid notch
#

||TD MM UC BP1 EM1-2 ||would be my top picks to learn first

round jacinth
proven pivot
#

I'd advise ||forced overtime|| because once you learn it it's free ||heat||

viscid notch
round jacinth
proven pivot
#

If memory serves, in this room anything at or after the final boss is spoilers and the rest is fine

sweet brook
#

Hermes keepsake isn't that useful tho

round jacinth
#

i'm pretty decent with the sword so if you bonk a ton of buffs on your attack chambers go real fast

sweet brook
#

When making a build you use god keepsakes to guarantee certain boons for Tartarus and asphodel

round jacinth
#

definitely in the end game with the rats

round jacinth
#

like skelly tooth or smth like that i'd guess

sweet brook
#

By the time you equip the feather in elysium it's not worth it and it's better to take defensive keepsakes

#

Yeah

round jacinth
#

cuz i cant go as fast in the elysium ones

sweet brook
#

You don't keep the buffs if you take it off

#

So it's essentially just all wasted

round jacinth
#

those take super long for me

#

with those self reviving bastards

round jacinth
#

i thought you did

sweet brook
#

Nope

round jacinth
#

i thought same went for than

#

my life is a lie

sweet brook
#

That's why it's bad

sweet brook
round jacinth
#

my life is a lie

viscid notch
#

||Forced overtime is a tough pact||, I would only learn it once you're consistent at beating the game, it is never free

round jacinth
#

lmao i thought you kept it eeeh

round jacinth
#

still struggle with that

#

i can however get to elysium most runs

viscid notch
#

So don't use ||Forced overtime||

round jacinth
#

and there that theseus kid keeps screwing me over

round jacinth
viscid notch
#

You dont even need it for like the last lategame achievement

round jacinth
#

i have alotta trouble with mino and theseus in elysium

sweet brook
#

||tight deadline|| isnt that bad because it gives you a lot more time than you think

round jacinth
#

OH

#

im sorry

#

i confused the two

#

similar names imo

sweet brook
#

||FO|| makes stuff spawn atk and move faster, the other just gives you a time limit

round jacinth
#

yeah i couldnt do time limit i think

#

not in elysium at least

sweet brook
#

If your first clear was 35 minutes then ||TD|| is fine

round jacinth
#

i could probs do it in the others tho

sweet brook
#

You get 9 minutes per biome

#

So 36 minutes total

round jacinth
#

hmm

#

i think i run first region (pr) 5:20

#

so i think most of my time went to the last 2

sweet brook
#

Also each run you do you should be playing better so you'll see time drops

round jacinth
#

probs

sweet brook
#

And time carries over

round jacinth
#

but in the last region idk if i could beat the limit for ||TD||

sweet brook
#

And there's a lot of small things than can make you go faster

round jacinth
#

such as?

sweet brook
round jacinth
#

but for last region i meant cerberus

#

there i tend to do most of the sewers

proven pivot
#

Pause the game when making door choices, timer doesn't go down while paused

sweet brook
round jacinth
proven pivot
sweet brook
#

It's a free room tho

#

No enemies so it's much faster

round jacinth
round jacinth
#

wait does a chaos room also fill a room toward region completion?

proven pivot
sweet brook
round jacinth
#

i thought it counted encounters not rooms

proven pivot
#

It does not

round jacinth
#

oh

#

wow

#

okay

proven pivot
#

All rooms count iirc

round jacinth
#

thats pretty important lol

sweet brook
#

Yeah it's a big time save

dusty vault
#

yeah as long you dont take chaos before last shop you will skip encounters

round jacinth
#

i always tried going for as much encounters as possible and take every skull i saw

sweet brook
#

That's not a bad idea actually

round jacinth
sweet brook
#

Miniboss rooms can be faster than normal rooms

round jacinth
#

the splitters boss room is a pain for me

dusty vault
round jacinth
#

oh sorry dyno my bad

dusty vault
#

so for example take gate at 12>in aspho the last combat will be at 23 instead

round jacinth
#

so a forced chaos wont count is what you mean?

viscid notch
#

No

#

A chaos in the last chamber of a biome wont count

#

It will be an extension and will add another encounter to the following biomes

round jacinth
#

hmm i dont remember ever having a chaos in the last chamber

#

you mean after the boss fight?

viscid notch
#

I mean in the room before the shop that leads to the boss fight

sweet brook
#

Right before the boss fight

viscid notch
#

And the chamber numbers are mentioned above

#

12 22 34

round jacinth
dusty vault
#

chaos gates normally have a cooldown so if you've seen it early it prob cant appear for your last chamber before boss

round jacinth
#

i dont think i fully understand but i dont really have to for now

#

so if i wanted to speedrun the game

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to for example get as much ||than|| encounters as possible to get the ||companion||

viscid notch
round jacinth
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its hard to know when she spawns tho in my experience

dusty vault
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Than is a pain to get

round jacinth
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im pretty far on than now tho

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like 4 nectar in or smth

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nvm only 3

viscid notch
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Still a lot of dialogue and rng

round jacinth
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idk the missions for him and her tho

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than's a guy right?

dusty vault
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ye ye

round jacinth
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i dont remember ever getting confirmation so i wanted to make sure

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ah ok

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i saw someone refer to him as they/them so i wasnt completely sure

sweet brook
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Chaos is they/them

round jacinth
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ah ok ok

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but not than then

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good to know

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||could someone tell me which chars give companions?||idk which is useful but i feel like having at least 1 could always be nice

sweet brook
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||Meg than skelly Achilles dusa||

viscid notch
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Sisyphus

sweet brook
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Oh yeah him too

round jacinth
viscid notch
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It's not

sweet brook
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Forgot what he does lol

round jacinth
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basically skelly from the range

round jacinth
sweet brook
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Meg and Sisyphus are pretty solid

sweet brook
sweet brook
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Idk maybe

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I've only used it on bosses so idrk lol

viscid notch
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It is

round jacinth
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ah cool

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than's is pretty chonk aoe tho right

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and if i recall its 3.5k dmg

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so thats pretty damn huge imo

viscid notch
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Than is 3.5K

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Bouldy is 1K

round jacinth
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than has the delay tho right

sweet brook
round jacinth
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does bouldy have a long one?

round jacinth
sweet brook
round jacinth
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its the same one he uses in the fights

round jacinth
sweet brook
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Yeah

round jacinth
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so pretty damn slow

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just seemed pretty cool tho

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does anyone know what determines a meg spawn?

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in the house of hades

sweet brook
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Rng lol

round jacinth
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ya love to see it

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my rng seems to be pretty damn bad in most things i do

sweet brook
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Well you've been taking the feather instead of having control of your build so that's a bit on you lol

round jacinth
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lmao makes sense

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i just dont feel like having 1 boon and not having any other benefits untill the next region

sweet brook
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That 1 boon can be very important

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What sword do you use?

round jacinth
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probably

round jacinth
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i use nemesis

sweet brook
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That's good

round jacinth
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yeah the basic one doesnt seem worth upgrading tbh

sweet brook
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Artemis Athena duo and Artemis Aphrodite duo are super strong with nemesis

round jacinth
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also i dont think ive gotten a lot of duos

sweet brook
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First buffs crit rate other buffs crit damage iirc

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One or the other

round jacinth
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i upgraded to 5% chance tho

round jacinth
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what does dark foresight do?

viscid notch
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It alters the ratio of gold to blue laurels

sweet brook
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Best mirror upgrade

round jacinth
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uh

viscid notch
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Which favors the gold laurels greatly, making it one of the strongest upgrades on the mirror

round jacinth
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i dont really know what that means

sweet brook
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You'll see more boons, pom, other stuff idk

round jacinth
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is gods legacy or gods pride better?

viscid notch
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Pride usually, unless you heavily rely on a duo or more, even when you do alot of builds still opt for Pride

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Because Epic boons are good, especially Hermes and Chaos

round jacinth
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but isnt legendary gonna be better?

viscid notch
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No

round jacinth
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oh

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huh

viscid notch
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Legendaries have prerequisites anyway

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Not randomly offered

round jacinth
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i thought legendary was just better version of epic

viscid notch
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Nope

round jacinth
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welp

viscid notch
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Legendary boons work differently

round jacinth
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but epic is just a better version of rare right?

viscid notch
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The rarity after Epic is Heroic

round jacinth
viscid notch
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It goes Common Rare Epic Heroic

round jacinth
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is there anywhere i can show a picture?

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i wanted to show my mirror so you guys could suggest changes

round jacinth
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do you prefer stygian soul or infernal soul?

viscid notch
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You can send pics by uploading it somewhere else and linking it here, discord will embed it

round jacinth
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oh cool!

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i'll try to do that

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wait so i like send a dm to someone then link that?

viscid notch
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You can

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You can also just send it in a private server if you have that

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Or upload to imgur or any hosting site

sweet brook
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Read the mirror guide and copy it lol

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Quite a few problems here that the guide can solve

round jacinth
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ok i'll try that

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btw is there a way to save the game?

viscid notch
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The game saves in every room

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Unless you're referring to something else

round jacinth
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i'd like to be able to save in the house of hades

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when i'm doing like weapon upgrades or nectar stuff it's nice to know what i did will stay

viscid notch
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When you do your upgrades and whatnot just enter a different chamber

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The game will save automatically

tepid notch
round jacinth
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im still doubting stygian

viscid notch
round jacinth
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i've used stygian for a while and i quite like not having to go pick up the casts

viscid notch
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Unless you're using a cast weapon it doesnt matter, just preference, again, as written in the guide

round jacinth
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yep

round jacinth
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lmao there was an attempt

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you can just use the key tho

viscid notch
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Can always spend a key to respec it

round jacinth
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also which upgrades should i boost most?

tepid notch
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I've bought everything a key can buy, so every key is an extra from now

viscid notch
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Yea keys become near useless pretty early in the grind

round jacinth
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you can trade em tho

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i think

viscid notch
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So you can just mess around with the mirror

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Yup

viscid notch
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You want Dark Foresight and Fated persuasion maxed but they're expensive

round jacinth
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i have a total of like 4K i think

tepid notch
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I traded everything for keys, I haven't play that much, bought the game sunday night and played every day
Just 38 attempts and my keys are now just for trade for anything else

round jacinth
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i think i can do foresight tho

viscid notch
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Something like Family Favorite is really cheap and a substantial damage increase every run so it's good to do

round jacinth
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im on 40 attempts now

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should i do double defiance?

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is 2 the max on DD?

viscid notch
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3

round jacinth
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ok

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i maxed dark foresight

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god im stupid i thought that was gods pride

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i feel like this is gonna be better

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defs for the stupid amount of foresight i got