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could still get crap rng tho lol
i dont like ME builds because its really painful to get everything for it
true
if you really want to focus on getting the duo you can run legacy and it will still be fine
if you're running nemesis and want ME i'd go legacy because if you commit to ME and dont get it then you're toast
with demeter fists you at least have a super chunky special
Doom is fine alone, will take a while but still
And you still have 2 athena boons so is safe
yeah i wouldnt say youre toast lol
i mean fair but it'd be extremely slow compared to nearly any other build
welcome to ME
that's why i dont run it lol
i remember one time i got such bad rng that i didn't get ddash or ME and got promptly slapped by the end boss lmao
lmao naturally
ngl though you get some fat doom numbers on those from dire misfortune
it stacks like what +14 or something each time?
just hard to proc ME lmao
yeah at epic
14*7 is 98 extra damage from 1 special, another 112 for each afterward but then by the time you slap them again with your athena attack it'll proc itself at that point probably lol
with all the buffs you get doom numbers around like 600+ lol
wait what about that aphrodite ares duo
hits like 3 more times for 30% of the doom damage each time right?
that could be pretty good damage over time on chiron
esp with PS
since i suck with chiron do you want to give that a try lol
never used this before lol
idk how curse of longing works
if they're weak then they get hit with doom like 3 or something extra times but it's reduced damage each time
Your Doom effects continuously strike Weak foes.
Successive Hit Damage: 50%
(To clarify, each successive Doom hit will deal 50% of the previous one.)
ah 50% of the previous
well if it hits again twice that'd be +75% more doom ddamage
so that's not bad if your doom numbers are 600+ lol
Aphrodite: Heartbreak Strike, Heartbreak Flourish, Crush Shot, or Passion Dash
Ares: Curse of Agony or Curse of Pain
in theory it doesn't sound too stupid but we both know this is very stupid lol
this is so painful
lmfao
gaming
luckily this is curse of longing
yes
the dash makes ME good, but you can't get ME if you only have the dash
i heard they had to nerf the conditions for ME because of how strong it was
i see
Possibly more because of how strong Divine Dash is.
why are boss rooms in styx easier than normal ones?
Because they're fast and predictable
Less chaotic because there's way fewer enemies.
hello gamers
What's up my good man? Ready to clear a run with only your own mind and accumulated knowledge to guide you today?
Oh dope
Styx room has too many traps i hate it
I am so bad at fishing in every single game, this one is no exception- any tips on how to git gud with the fishies?
when you hear a ding hit the button
Much easier to do based on the sound, yeah
Personally I look away from the screen while fishing
If it’s bobbed three times already it’s guaranteed the next one will be the fish
Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.
Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.
A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.
lol time to add that to the list of guides
Already done. 
To my own list anyway. Dunno if there's another one.
Welcome! 
Well, you're not really expected to get super far early on while you're still upgrading your mirror and stuff.
You can check the pins in this channel for a couple guides of mine for newbies that I think will answer your question and also give you some pointers that will help. 
On a scale of 1–10, I would rate Hades a Lady Aphrodite is the main character.
Literally the first pin has tiers for weapon aspects at different levels.
Can you see the weapon aspects yet?
They'll unlock once you've unlocked all 6 weapons, but you need to do another run and come back to the House of Hades to be able to unlock aspects with Titan Blood.
i heard that someone's working on a mod for multiplayer which is pretty neat
other than that i have no clue how it's gonna work
i have quest: use all buffs from Daedalus for Aegis shield
can i pick one type of shield and roll all hammer buffs
or some buffs appear for specific type of shield?
All weapons are insane in their own way
sword is a good middle ground, jack of all trades
spear is clunky but has much more range than the sword,
shield offers extreme mobility at the cost of low ranged options
Bow offers inane raned options with a lack of multi hit options
fists offer great amounts of aoe and combos as well as mobility but lack in range
railgun offers great sustained damage over range and good aoe but a lack of overall dps.
Don't agree with much of that tbh.
depends do you like range the bow or rail, up close & personal the sword and fists, or do you want something iin the middle shield & spear.
hello. i m looking for weapon tier list pls
It isn't exactly a tier list so much as recommendations for new players, but the most recent pin in this channel should help.
so the bow aspect of hera is the best for a beginner with 2 titan blood?
Yeah Hera is amazing. I think Aphrodite's Cast is the easiest to use with it, but there are other options.
I am not, however, an expert
hera is good if you like bow
it's just like normal bow but with big damage
honestly all the aspects are pretty good at level 1 or 2 except for like chaos, hades, and most of the zag aspects
I do like Zag Rail tho
Keep in mind that your playstyle may not be perfectly in line with the recommendation list, and if you don't like the Hera bow, you can always try another weapon @rapid wedge
zag rail isn't bad, more bullets = more damage
but also eris can give a universal damage boost if you blast yourself with a special so just use eris lol
this point is extremely true
everyone praises how good eris is but i just dont like rail lmao
I like the twin fists a lot, but i m looking now for something to clear quickly with my 2 titan blood
Hera is a good start then, for sure
overall shield bow and gun are the best weapons
I don't think you can get Hera with only 2 titan blood isn't it like 3
Oh I don't remember that
||taser|| is pretty good too
oops forgot to spoiler mb
I mean ||nuke|| is kinda the best weapon but thats not really accessible at this point in the game
thats a good point
I dont have a screenshot bc im playing on ps4, but one of my death defiances has an Athena sign in it , but i dont remember taking any boons from her that could give me a death defiance, does anybody know what it could be?
she has 2 boons that can refill a death defiance
one of them you restore more hp when you use DD, the other you become invincible for a few seconds after you use DD
and with both you get a free one from her
oh ok i got the "more hp when you use DD" i didnt know it gave one too but hey im not complaining
lmao yeah
||charon fight|| in asphodel maybe wasnt the greatest idea
the bonus DD from athena is what made me survive
i still have no idea how to deal with that fight
any tips?
how do u get achiles to say the funny words to get the 4th spear
i have all the other requirements
at least im pretty sure
put 5 blood into non zag aspects on any weapon, reach the surface, then just go through a ton of dialogue of his until he gives you the waking phrase
it can take a longggg time
once i got to the surface once can i just die in 4 seconds for a bunch of runs until he gives it or do i have to go to the surface every single run to have a chance at unlocking it
Only once
||Also for hidden spear is unlocking 5 apsects across all weapons, not invest 5 blood||
Also needs list of minor prophecies
alr well as i said i have all the other requirements so i guess im just gonna murder Zagreus a bunch of times
Ans for future reference
Hidden aspect methods pinned in #h1-story-discussion
alr thx
welp i just got it 2nd try lmao
nice
well it looks strong
but im 1 titan blood short anyway so i guess i cant try it out rn
shouldnt that be hidden.. spoiler
Aegis aspect of chaos
Aspect of Chaos at low level is miserable
I wouldn't recommend it
Even at max level the damage is not very good compared to other weapons
The shield is strong, that specific shield is the weakest
I use aspect of zeus rn
Much stronger
im currently rocking zag shield
Nice
which aspect should i use i just got into heat
yep pretty much
any build idea to make it easier?
Had a built with adamant rail curse of agony Inpending doom and fire misfortune and at times a Doom effect dealt up to 600 damage
are u running sword?
||tight deadline|| is the easiest if your clear times are within 36 minutes because it doesn't change anything gameplay wise other than add a timer
just keep what you're doing and take that
fist/spear
Merciful end on fist is gonna be the fastest
And strongest
And most high roll
Demeter fist preferably but any of them work tbh
Spear you can probably also do the same thing with Achilles aspect
Or you can use a cast build with Achilles aspect
Hunting blades, ||crystal beams||, zeus or Athena cast and their duo
ME is all around a good duo for insane dmg
Hmm
For melee builds yeah
It's just difficult to get
And if you don't get it it'll just suck lol
spoiler tag that
it's an aspect
and that
okay that one yeah
got it on the first try
nice
It picks a random weapon out of the 6 and it makes it so you gain +20% darkness while using them I think
You can see it around weapons when you're in the courtyard
any tips for first time players?
you get i-frames when you dash, but you dont if you dash strike
is it posssible to level up duo and legendary boons?
no
ok
Imagine if you could level Sweet Nectar
Does your powers reset when you die? I feel like I get stronger, but some of my abilities seem to reset after I die and try again
I'm very bad at fighting games so it's a very slow process for me if some things reset
Things on your mirror do not reset
If you picked it up during the run, it resets when you die
But there are some items you keep like darkness, gems, etc.
Hades is not a fighting game 
Ah- T.T So the boons the gods give are temporary
But you do fight things
Yes.
Then every game with an enemy is a fighting game
Your terms are acceptable
Ok- let me rephrase- I'm not good at the fighting aspect of this game.
You can get keepsake that you can equip from each Olympian that makes them guaranteed to appear once + give higher chance at greater boon rarity by giving them a Nectar. You get to keep the keepsake forever btw. (The Keepsake for Hermes does something different, because forcing Hermes to appear would be busted)
Oh, yeah- that much I get 🙂
I thought the god's boons all stayed and was confused when I restarted weak again
Unfortunately no. But the luck aspect of the game is a big part of the fun when you get used to it
At the moment I don't mind it cause the art is so beautiful, and I love the commentary
I'm dying a lot though
Don't feel too bad about that, it's quite normal to die a lot early on
Basically meta rewards are Darkness Gemstones Keys Nectar Diamonds Titan Blood Ambrosia, anything you buy with these is permanent, the rest is temporary and resets when you start a new run
nods and memories of petting cerberus
geometry dash?
oh with an enemy
There's an achievement for petting him enough times. Do it twice as many times as that.
I'm... not good at the fighting. I feel like I key mash a lot cause I don't have the skill level to do what is required fast enough, and I rely on HP boosts to not die.
That’s most people, you’re still starting out, you get better with practice
It took forever to get past the first boss fight in Witcher 3 with the griffon XD
I... don't understand godmode though- that's temporary, right?
It's a setting you can turn on or off whenever you want
It increases your damage resistance, and it gets stronger the more times you've died
Open up the menu and choose settings
Oh idk what the pause button is on PC
Should be right there
It has a pause feature? Oh man, I'm still so green with modern gaming
I got my vision fixed abotu 6 years ago, and I'm very slow catching up on modern gaming ^^;
You can Pause yea, it’s Esc on your keyboard or Start on controller
Thank you 🙂
The furtherest into the dungeon I've gotten is ||Meg||- are they one of the boss fights? My friends told me I'd know when I got those. There's also ||that huge gem||
I'm pretty sure chambers 12 22 and 34 are right before a free room to the boss so if you want to keep track where you are you can check what chamber you're in
Yup
You can also tell by the door
A door with a boss behind it has a skull and a star
saves to phone
There are some guides pinned in this channel too
mostly weapon guides i think
difficult encounter only appears for blue laurel right?
Yes
huh I didn't know it actually increased difficulty
so bad for ||heat||/speedrunning unless it's really important nectar/key vs darkness/gems
And some enemies are not allowed to spawn there
But regardless, the general consensus is to take whatever you need
Should spoiler ||heat|| here too btw
good catch
And this is obviously not 100% the case, but it’s supposed to be, comparing 2 rooms when you only get to see whats behind one of them is tough, and not much thought has gone into this by the community, enemy types and tiles etc are too much to take into account so it’s not seen as a big deal
I see
so basically too many variables to take into account so just ignore "increased difficulty" when you don't care about the actual blue laurel rewards
Yea pretty much, if you see something you need like a key, take it, even if it’s not an elite room, if you don’t need either options take the elite one
I'll be excited if I manage to finish the game XD I'm not here for laurels XD
Why do some boons cancel out others?
like remove effects or not compatible?
the core boons (the ones in the slots on the left) wont stack with eachother
so you cant get like ares attack and athena attack
there are also some boons and hammers that just prevent you from getting others
like you cant get triple shot and twin shot at the same time
That's fair cause one is an upgrade
OK, so like, the left side confuses me
I suppose that's why. I guess I didn't really understand how that worked
They are the main slots that empower what Zag does, such as the Attack, Special, Cast and Dash, those are known as your core boons and you can only have 1 at a time in each slot as mentioned earlier, sometimes you can get a swap, which might be what confused you
nods
So if I have an attack power boost, then I take a second power boost, it'll over write it? Or just not offer if?
you won't get offered an attack boost usually
sometimes the game will offer a replacement which is clearly indicated so you won't miss it
Let’s say you take an Artemis attack, it’ll fill that core slot, let’s say you see an Ares afterwards and take his boon, there is a very high chance that he wont offer an attack replace, instead he’ll offer other core boons such as the Dash or Special for example and a lot of the time gods offer supporting boons that you can see on the side, they don’t fill any slots
I've been so confused XD
Oh, so I don't need to worry unless it tells me
Will I know if it's a better boon?
yeah you won't ever lose a core slot boon unless you replace it
yeah it gives you the stats of the old boon and new boon
replaced boons will have one higher rarity and be the same level
heroic boons can't be part of a replacement
So always worth doing
it's rarely worth it
You’ll learn with experience what boons go well with what weapons
But rarity and level and numbers don’t mean a whole lot
if it's on a core boon you're using you usually hand picked the god you want on that slot
Synergies matter more
S....ynergies?
"the interaction or cooperation of two or more organizations, substances, or other agents to produce a combined effect greater than the sum of their separate effects."
thats a terrible definition
YUP
synergies are a hoax invented by big olympus to sell us more duo boons
lmaoo
So keeping the boons from different gods is good
Just your boons working together and your build making sense
Not just random stuff thrown around
But it takes time to get there
And influencing builds without a fully upgraded mirror is tricky so don’t worry too much about it, just try to get a general idea of what goes where
I just got the next rank in the mirror. Only missing death defiance
*the last death defiance
The 500 orb one
Nice
180 orbs in 🤞
The dying and coming back to try again is a cool way of not needing save files ❤️
Try to unlock all the base weapons, they’re cheap compared to the later ranks of the mirror
also gives you access to aspects which are great
Oh, OK. I'll focus more on the weapons then :)
Oh man- I want to look at the fan art but can't cause I have no idea who some of the characters are still T.T
Oh- I got the gauntlets and I managed to defeat Meg twice in a row! ||I keep running into lava thoguh ^^;||
is there a Heat guide? what to choose first from easiest to most difficult?
A good place to start is probably the pinned messages on #h1-high-heat-strategies
|| At beginner very low heat it may be useful to simply try some out to see how you handle them. Typically HL, TD, MM, CF, BP1, EM2 are good to start with. See the pins for a guide to the acronyms ||
As a fists main, it is not a matter of not dashing into the lava, it is simply a matter of dashing out fast
more of both tbh
whats the best way to farm Darkness? Should I quit after Tartarus and start again, or go along till the end?
all the way to the end
look for chaos eclipse boons
looking for the best combo of Mirror of Darkness?
first of all, hitting "quit" just sends you to the title screen, hitting "give up" makes you lose all your progress so no point in hitting either. you'd have to die in order to start again and keep your progress
secondly, like what snapnova said, chaos eclipse boons will give you a % bonus to rewards.
another way to increase this is ocean's bounty from poseidon to increase the % you get. sunken treasure from poseidon also gives you resources but doesn't incrase the % you get
the main reason you just play the run in full is because later bosses give way more darkness
meg gives like 60 and ||hades|| gives like 300
spoiler that last one
also if you're trying to farm darkness would it be better to turn off dark foresight
probably not because you get slower runs, and most of your darkness comes from bosses
you get almost none from actual rooms
i mean fair but with enough % bonuses the 10/12 can turn into a decent number can't it
and if you're farming darkness the speed doesn't matter too much does it
well the speed does matter because the more runs you get in the more darkness you get
true i guess
Is this best with controllers?
There are top players on both kbm and controller, so pick whatever you're comfortable with, there is no best
also please spoiler ||heat|| in this channel 
Yea w
who is the last one in the Codex Others of Note?
someone you will meet later
Oh, I see what you guys mean by it now
can you spoil it for me in private?
if you so wish, ||persephone||
||already met her|| but i cant give the drink to receive the gift
||you have to get 10 clears and see the end credits to gift her||
||once she's back at the house||
hello guys whats the best weapon for the first run
i use the fists
i have 20 attempts so far and i consistently get to elusyism or whatever
Hah- 20 attempts. Was I suppose to get it in 20 attempts? I must really be a bad player T.T
what are u at rn
I just got past Meg XD
I'm not good at games though. I didn't buy games for a long time cause I played Tombraider and could never finish it cause it was too hard for me. I'm only playing Hades cause I'm told that you get stronger and stronger the more you play it
I didn't want to play for ages cause I'm very bad at games that require playing computer games for years prior 😦
I haven't found god mode yet, but I'm having a lot of fun ^^
Everyone advances at their own pace, no need to be in any rush
Some can finish their first run below 20, others need more time and there's no shame in that
Merciful end is one of the strongest builds for fists but needs a lot of luck to work correctly
Ares attack, Athena special, duo boon ME and then get the dash
If you don't get ME by the time you get to the boss of Elysium then it's gonna be painful but doable still
that skunds very difficult
is spear good
what doess ares attack and athena special mean
Spear is alright, Achilles aspect is pretty strong
Ares boon on your attack and Athena boon on your special
There is none
It's all personal preference and play style
If you like the fists then sure use them
Getting merciful end for your fists isn't too difficult tbh it's more of getting every other helpful boon to appear
shield, bow, gun are likely overall best
for first clear shield and bow stand out
Ok thanks
Is it always like that when you die? You get to defeat MEG again?
yep
welcome to the world of rogue-likes/lites or whatever the genre name is lol
every time you die you start at the beginning but you'll also progress the story
and ofc the mirror upgrades, weapons, keepsakes, etc
I've defeated meg for about 30-40 tries. Haha. Goodluck 😄
If I keep collecting keys and dark crystals I can easily progress in the game right?
Well upgrades are gonna help a lot but you still have to adapt to enemy patterns and such, so it's not just about the upgrades but partially yes, they will help you progress
hwat to use titan blood for?
Upgrade weapon aspects
If you don’t have them then buy the Rail and do a run, should unlock them
||i beat hades for the 3rd time now and with heat so i have some blood left... buyed shield of caos and eris gun and poseidon sword but i dont feel like buying the others for now cuz i wont use them.... is there a weapon that is worth upgrading and can be op with enaugh blood spent||
i was typing
:)
i have them
also how to unlock secret aspects
i only unlocked the spear one
and i dont even know it i want to use it...
They have prereqs, you can check those in #h1-story-discussion pins
reduced healt sounds pretty bad
I mean putting more levels on Eris is just good, Hestia is another good one, really likes levels
Achilles, Nem, Demeter fists, Zeus shield are all top tier weapons
All of the bows are also fine, Chiron likes levels out of those
i honestly dont like the zeus shield.... dont know how to use it and the damage is to small
Zeus shield is tough to play
yeah
i love chaos and zag shield tho...
feels more natural to use
and combining attack->weakness and special->doom is a broken combination... at least it can be
shield
and spea
r
feel good to use on the start
combine with some good boons and bam beat the game
do this game have mechasim like perfect block or perfect dodge ?
wel.. yes and no
theres no perfect dodge that would give you another bonus
but
while dashing you are invincible
not when the dash stops... and if you attack while dshing you can get damage
but if you just dash like crazy technicly they cant hit you....
A perfect dodge technically exists which can be defined as a dash that procs RR or Lightning Reflexes, so a last second dash
A perfect block does not really exist tho, if you’re thinking of something like a parry, it’s not a thing in Hades
For beginner weapons Sword and Bow are definitely on the tougher side, they both have stricter rhythms compared to the rest of the weapons so they feel clunky when not played very well, for Sword you want to be using Dash strikes, your rotation would be normally something like Special > x2 Dash-strikes with a Cast for Boiling Blood on tougher enemies and bosses, for Bows you also want to be dash-striking, and you want to be hitting powershots for extra damage
They can be alright, they have more hammer reliance because they really want Charged Shot if you want to compare to Zeus Shield, Chaos Shield's whole Special gimmick is pretty underwhelming tho, the damage is just weak
i like them because of their special...
i dont really care about chaos aspect
its the same bul a little better i guess
Zag Shield and Chaos Shield Special unfortunately has very low base damage, and if you use it you're not allowed to use your Shield until it's back, so it's a hassle, the general idea is to put Flat Damage on it instead of buffing its base damage, which is good, but even putting Flat Damage on the attack instead and ignoring the Special would do a better job at dealing damage than the Special, but either way, you can play however you want, as long as you're having fun
epic doom lvl 7 on special 
- epic deal 90% more doom but 0,5sec slower
Pause menu > Settings
How do you enable athena after escape? I've seen videos and the first powerup is athena.
You use her Keepsake
And the same goes for any Olympian God except Hermes
So there is only 4 stages on the game?
Does boon overwrites each other even if does not says "will replace"? Or it will just stack?
only the core boons can be overwritten
and it'll say "will replace" whatever
if you're offered an attack boon from artemis and you already have an attack boon from athena, then it will be a replacement
Ohh! So two God boons can't stack? Gotta plan accordingly on taking boons.
well not for the same core boon
attack, special, cast, dash, and call
every other thing you can have multiple gods for
you can take say, static discharge from zeus and pressure points from artemis just fine. as long as it's not one of those 5 core boons
There are some Duos that are incompatible with other Duos as well I think
yeah
Cause when I see my boon's list the other boon is gone. Does that mean it stacks? I'm talking about boons without "will replace" thingy.
If it says "Will replace" you keep the new one, and the old one is gone
there's a button to pull up every boon you've collected that run, both boons should be there
Thank you guys!
You got this!
YOU CAN DO IT
What weapon are you using?! What's your build?! I'm hyped!
chiron bow i dont actually have a set build but its ares special dio attack and posideon call!
OK 3 LIVES FINAL BOSS TIME
well not final but
fair fair! sounds fun, good luck!
Try Dionysus special and Aphrodite atk
And if you can privileged status in the mirror
what does that do
When an enemy has 2 status effects on them they take more damage
At max level it does +40% more damage
It's counter part is family favorites, which is also good but since you're applying 2 status effects PS is better
that sounds amazing imma unlock that right after this run
You honestly don't need it as long as you have the core of Aphrodite atk Dionysus special
But it's a very nice bonus
is there any way how to see your hammer upgrades ?
when i press b its show just my boons
h
better question.... is there a way to see all hammer upgrades possible?
like in that book with characters and gods
also who to gift ambrosia to?
i dont think its possible
is there any progress after we kill hades ? like..new level and new bosses?
||you get the pact of punishment||
And each run will always be different from the rest just because of how the game works
Are some upgrades for the weapons and some new things for the bosses
if you have the fated list of prophecies there is a prophecy where you can discover and use all of the hammers for a certain weapon, you can find it there. however, you won't be able to find out what it actually does until you find it in a run.
How many lives hades has? made it to the 2nd hades.
Hangover is good in this game as it works like a poison.
||2||
hangover is great, the benefit per pom doesn't decay past the 2nd or 3rd
So I am very new, like 6 hours in or so. Just died to the 3rd boss encounter - I had +2 hp healing and I thought I was doing alright overall, but then their damage to me just scaled too hard. Should I be focusing on a specific starting god via their keepsake for better attempts at runs, or stick with Cerb keepsake for +max Hps etc?
starting with gods is good yeah
most of the time is first 2 biomes with god keepsakes (for any duo you wanna shoot/if they work for a build) then the rest is defensive keepsakes
like tooth/acorn/etc
Builds that require u to stand still is so much more newbie friendly
Those dash strike builds dont work for me ;-;
If ur having no diff on the 1st two bosses equip the boons keepsakes when ur on the 3rd arena switch to skelly
Do this if ur not greedy for dps
It makes it easier to learn the boss moves if u havent already and is way safer
Examples r fist with zeus attack
Or sword with the rapid slash upgrade forgot its name.U could add the healing upgrade as well cuz it works welll with it
spoiler that boss name
spoiler for you too
lets goooo i got aspect of chiron level 3 @sweet brook
dio special aphro attack right?
yep
tag enemy with attack, spam specials into them
with dio special it can be better to only special once or twice per tag
It feel like boss #3 is a significant spike in difficulty.
It is that way for a lot of people, yeah. Kill Asterius first, and put a pillar between yourself and Theseus when there's a crosshair on you.
And the final boss hits like a truck. 80 damage a swing. It went through all 3 of my extra lives and I didn't make much progress.
Granted, I wasn't expecting nor planning to one shot them.
Yeah final boss is a doozy. I think the pronouns are considered spoils here? Idk for sure
Just for the final boss tho
And anything beyond that
I think the most annoying boss is just lava. Wherever there is lava.
Lava sucks but at least it helps you learn to watch where you step.
Spoiler ||phase 2||
ok...
i have the game for alround 12 days now
and i played 35 hours of it...
and i still went to work almost every day....
thats a little too much of playtime right?
That sounds like most of your free time, but a little less if you just played an awful lot on the weekends, still you could probably stand to do other things as well
The game isn't going anywhere
on the weekends i was out bycicling, then i had work once and i even played some other game for like 2 hours once
oh and i havent played hades in last 2 days so... 35h in 10 days
welp
just realised that
It's really easy to get sucked into Hades, but the good news is it's also really easy to be principled with your Hades playtime if you want to, since it saves after each chamber
also i usually dont play this genre... i am nintendo zelda fan.... and i was wandering...
is it bad if i played the game for that much time and had alround 50 runs already
and i oonly beat the game 3 times?
and it was like 47th attempt to beat it for the first time
next run i died to shop guy cuz i ||"borrowed money"||
and then i won last 2 runs somehow
but i feel like it took me pretty long time to actually win.... waay to much time
Nah. 50 runs for a clear is not out of the ball park. I got first clear at about 50 and got to credits by 80. Once it clicks, it clicks.
dont compare yourself to others in how much it took you anyways
single player game and all of that
Just don't mess with Charon's sack
figured
XD
it was just so good looking... had only 1/2 of the life and it was the room before the champions and i was like: oh i wanna but that hearth lemme se whats this money sack about is it free?
thanks... even tho i am always comparing myself and trying to get better... usually i am good at every game i try and when i find a game where i think i could do better or i think im not good at it i get way to competetive and start playing it like crazy without realizing it...
so far i ahve onyl found like 5 games like that
K, plague rats are DESTROYING ME. I do not get how I am supposed to ignore their poison DoT?
Don't stand on green, don't get shot by satyrs, and if you accidentally do either of those things, get to one of those glowy yellow pools and click cure
broken spearpoint is a counter to poison
if styx chambers are causing problems for you try it out
Hrm, k.
what does prophecy foretold mean
You completed something from the fated prophecy or something like that
i was wondering if there's a way for me to meet than more often, i'm trying to get his companion but gifting him the necessary nectar has been taking me a while
Have you tried the wretched broker?
that's the place where you trade right?
Yes
i've got the nectar, my problem is i'm not meeting than enough
Oh I see
I think the only thing you can do is die on purpose after you see them so that you can immediately try again
ah that would be pretty smart
just run as many chambers as possible to get as much chances to meet him as possible then?
does he only spawn in elysium? cuz i don't recall meeting him anywhere else
The lonely shade only spawns in elysium yes
ah i see
so i gotta basically speedrun my way to elysium
that's not gonna be a fun time
Yeah lol elysium isn't exactly the easiest to get to
and then when i arrive there after meeting our friendly neighbourhood death incarnate i just dash into the purple butterfly balls and do it all again?
i'm really just trying to get any companions since i feel like just having 1 will always be better than none, i've tried meg but i can't seem to understand why she spawns in the house of hades and when she doesnt
Neither do I, for me, I'm only using nectar once per character to get the keepsakes and once I beat the final boss I'll start to gain more companions starting with the inhabitants of the house of hades
yeah that would probably make sense
i've beaten the game once already
now i'm just basically getting titan blood on every weapon and then putting the heat 1 more
also a small tip for any bow users here
the flurry upgrade at the hammers is super important imo
without that any bossfight is a pain
oh... than just spawned in the first region
huh...
interesting
looking for a tier list that includes the hidden aspects
what boons/hammers do you people usually get for aspect of chiron bow? i got to the final boss twice in a row but i keep dying to him because i don't deal enough damage
For hammers Concentrated Volley and Relentless Volley are your top options, for boons you usually go for Artemis' Special + Aphro's attack and try to get Heartrend, or you go with Dionysus Special (pom it as much as you can), and add Aphro attack then look for Low Tolerance, if you come across Ares you can pick up Curse of Vengeance too because that opens Curse of Nausea
Should also pair up the latter build with Pstatus on the mirror
that's really helpful, thank you
how do open some relatilions with some gods or friends(last heart) i soon finish game with last scene, but half characters doesnt have last heart :C
and in book written that i used all dialogs
They each have favors that you need to fulfill, like side quests, you can check the wiki to know more about them because it's a lot to write here, it can also have spoilers
thx
what is a "Duo" rank Boon?
like what are the specifics of it? Never seen one until now but it seems really OP. Life regen every 0.8 seconds? Dang
correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure it's a boon that comes from two different gods
It's a boon that has prerequisites from 2 gods, once met it can be offered by either
And not all duos are op, in fact that Duo is considered one of the very niche weak ones
You don't need duos to make good builds and have good damage etc
but life regen??
Im like, always at max HP
if I get hit I heal the full damage in like 5 seconds
It is only if you have no DDs
yeah which you only get one of
once it's gone, it's gone
so the rest of the run I have permanent life regen
And yes, I know there' the alt skill that grants one per chamber
But still, point stands
Makes it very hard to die
Then there you go, that's one of the niche situations where it's quite nice, but when you have 3 DDs and start just overall getting better and getting hit less you tend to barely ever proc that Duo
true
if upgraded you have more
and i think skelly tooth might also interfere with it
i need like 1 more ares boon but i cant seem to get it anywhere... any tips? i've tried the keepsake but still nothin
There isn't much you can do to alter the rng at this point, the keepsake guarantees you 1 boon from Ares, but if you already got that then it's only a rarity boost and nothing more, other things you can do are basically filling up your god pool early, which makes you only see the gods in that pool and no other gods so you have good odds there
wait what do you mean by filling up the god pool
The game will throw random gods at you, aside from the keepsakes of course, when you have seen 4 gods, excluding Hermes and Chaos, your god pool is full, and you wont see any random gods anymore, you'll only see those 4 going forward
ah that makes sense
For a god to be in your god pool you have to take a boon from them, and selling does not remove the god from the pool
so i constantly go for god boons when i see them in the doors then?
ah so you could have a full god pool while only having boons from like 1 of the gods
since you can just sell the rest of em
Yes. Probably not ideal most of the time though
yeah probably
i do think having a full dio build would be strong in a lot of fights
Well, you would like decent supporting stuff from the rest of the gods so it's okay to be a bit picky about them, but sometimes yes you just pick up whatever say if you have 3 gods and you need a fourth, you probably wont care much in that case, usually builds revolve around 2 gods, so you kinda want to leave Tartarus with a god of your choice, which you use the keepsake for, and 2 gods that can be decent or are just fillers, then you force another god in Asphodel and there you go, that fills your pool
cool!
i dont really run builds or anything
i just see what i can get as i go along
i dont really have the galaxybrains to semi-plan the entire thing
eh, Hangover stacks override each other, and hangover damage varies a lot depending on the source, the dash is really weak for example but the call is insane, and the attack and special are for specific stuff for the most part, Dio T2s aside from that aren't very amazing, for a hangover build I'd lean more towards other status curses for pstatus and maybe Duo boons
the call is so good
i got it to lvl 5 really fast and it was like 36 damage per .5 seconds
call only lasts 1.5 seconds but the stacks still deal dmg after
Advice: Athena is pretty much always good, so if you've got no idea what you'd like and are struggling to clear the game taking her keepsake is good
call is very strong
i just try to get her somewhere along the way for the dash
athena dash is one of my favorites
Yea the Call is something you pick up a just get a lot of value out of it on a lot of builds just because of the sheer damage
combined with the one that replenishes a DD
It's very good
There are two fun fact
Athena is pretty nice
yea
Basically all of her boons are very helpful. I'd say her cast is the worst of her boons and even then it isn't bad, it's just less good imo
||does the traps extra dmg pact also work on enemies?||
No
heightened security
ah dam
You should spoiler those tho, in this channel
the arrows in elysium do a ton of dmg tho
Yes
oh sorry mb
||That's a tough pact, shouldnt take it early||
One of the very late ones that people learn
oh i always take it
it was my first one
i just learned not to bonk into traps as much
I mean it's good to learn, if you get used to it it's basically free
ig it forced me to think a bit more
But you can never be 100% and sometimes you'll just get yeeted by a trap
How fast on average do you complete a run?
yeah does a lot
i've only completed 1, it was in i think 35 minutes
but i did everything on the ||cerberus region|| to feel extra prepared
||TD MM UC BP1 EM1-2 ||would be my top picks to learn first
idk what those mean
I'd advise ||forced overtime|| because once you learn it it's free ||heat||
You can check the pins in #h1-high-heat-strategies for what they mean
i could combine it with ||hermes keepsake...||
You can yeah! Although I think Hermes keepsake is not spoilers here
If memory serves, in this room anything at or after the final boss is spoilers and the rest is fine
Hermes keepsake isn't that useful tho
oh well
oh ok
its pretty nice if you're a melee user imo
i'm pretty decent with the sword so if you bonk a ton of buffs on your attack chambers go real fast
When making a build you use god keepsakes to guarantee certain boons for Tartarus and asphodel
definitely in the end game with the rats
and afterward you take like safety measurements then?
like skelly tooth or smth like that i'd guess
By the time you equip the feather in elysium it's not worth it and it's better to take defensive keepsakes
Yeah
yeah i'd usually take hermes in the first 2 regions
cuz i cant go as fast in the elysium ones
i dont think i could do that in elysium tho
those take super long for me
with those self reviving bastards
you dont???
i thought you did
Nope
That's why it's bad
You don't keep it for than either
my life is a lie
||Forced overtime is a tough pact||, I would only learn it once you're consistent at beating the game, it is never free
lmao i thought you kept it eeeh
i cant beat the game easily yet tho
still struggle with that
i can however get to elysium most runs
So don't use ||Forced overtime||
and there that theseus kid keeps screwing me over
probs not
You dont even need it for like the last lategame achievement
i have alotta trouble with mino and theseus in elysium
||tight deadline|| isnt that bad because it gives you a lot more time than you think
im not planning on achievementhunting tbh
OH
im sorry
i confused the two
similar names imo
||FO|| makes stuff spawn atk and move faster, the other just gives you a time limit
If your first clear was 35 minutes then ||TD|| is fine
i could probs do it in the others tho
is it?
hmm
i think i run first region (pr) 5:20
so i think most of my time went to the last 2
Also each run you do you should be playing better so you'll see time drops
probs
And time carries over
but in the last region idk if i could beat the limit for ||TD||
And there's a lot of small things than can make you go faster
such as?
If you rack up enough extra time you'll have more than 9 minutes for Elysium
ah not baddd
but for last region i meant cerberus
there i tend to do most of the sewers
Pause the game when making door choices, timer doesn't go down while paused
Always taking chaos, always taking free rooms (npc and shop), pausing before making choices
yeah i alt tab a lot to talk to ppl while i do runs so i figured that out
Do only as many as you need for the thing
chaos doesnt pause right?
As soon as you get the sack just leave
It's a free room tho
No enemies so it's much faster
i wanna prep for final boss tho
ah i see
wait does a chaos room also fill a room toward region completion?
It's not worth it. Too much chance of something going wrong
Those extra benefits usually don't make or break you
You just lose hp from fighting for some extra rewards
i thought it counted encounters not rooms
It does not
Yes
Wait
All rooms count iirc
thats pretty important lol
Yeah it's a big time save
yeah as long you dont take chaos before last shop you will skip encounters
i always tried going for as much encounters as possible and take every skull i saw
That's not a bad idea actually
could you explain that further
Miniboss rooms can be faster than normal rooms
the splitters defs not tho
the splitters boss room is a pain for me
if you take a chaos gate at ch12/22/34 it will count as an extra chamber
oh sorry dyno my bad
oh ok
so for example take gate at 12>in aspho the last combat will be at 23 instead
so a forced chaos wont count is what you mean?
No
A chaos in the last chamber of a biome wont count
It will be an extension and will add another encounter to the following biomes
hmm i dont remember ever having a chaos in the last chamber
you mean after the boss fight?
I mean in the room before the shop that leads to the boss fight
Right before the boss fight
oh thats pretty neech
chaos gates normally have a cooldown so if you've seen it early it prob cant appear for your last chamber before boss
i dont think i fully understand but i dont really have to for now
so if i wanted to speedrun the game
to for example get as much ||than|| encounters as possible to get the ||companion||
||If you want a good and easy to get companion Meg is your best bet||
its hard to know when she spawns tho in my experience
Than is a pain to get
Still a lot of dialogue and rng
ye ye
i dont remember ever getting confirmation so i wanted to make sure
ah ok
i saw someone refer to him as they/them so i wasnt completely sure
Chaos is they/them
ah ok ok
but not than then
good to know
||could someone tell me which chars give companions?||idk which is useful but i feel like having at least 1 could always be nice
||Meg than skelly Achilles dusa||
Sisyphus
Oh yeah him too
idk bout ||skelly|| tho doesnt seem super usefull
It's not
Forgot what he does lol
i think its a decoy with 250 health
basically skelly from the range
what's his do?
Meg and Sisyphus are pretty solid
Drops a rock from the sky, does 1k damage and drops resources like darkness gold and hp
oh seems cool
is it aoe?
It is
ah cool
than's is pretty chonk aoe tho right
and if i recall its 3.5k dmg
so thats pretty damn huge imo
than has the delay tho right
Super slow tho
does bouldy have a long one?
mhm i agree it does seem slow
Don't think it can miss lol
its the same one he uses in the fights
fair haha
Yeah
and there i can clear anything in the circle before it hits
so pretty damn slow
just seemed pretty cool tho
does anyone know what determines a meg spawn?
in the house of hades
Rng lol
Well you've been taking the feather instead of having control of your build so that's a bit on you lol
lmao makes sense
i just dont feel like having 1 boon and not having any other benefits untill the next region
probably
That's good
yeah the basic one doesnt seem worth upgrading tbh
Artemis Athena duo and Artemis Aphrodite duo are super strong with nemesis
what do those do?
also i dont think ive gotten a lot of duos
i upgraded to 5% chance tho
cool
what does dark foresight do?
It alters the ratio of gold to blue laurels
Best mirror upgrade
uh
Which favors the gold laurels greatly, making it one of the strongest upgrades on the mirror
i dont really know what that means
You'll see more boons, pom, other stuff idk
is gods legacy or gods pride better?
Pride usually, unless you heavily rely on a duo or more, even when you do alot of builds still opt for Pride
Because Epic boons are good, especially Hermes and Chaos
but isnt legendary gonna be better?
No
i thought legendary was just better version of epic
Nope
welp
Legendary boons work differently
but epic is just a better version of rare right?
The rarity after Epic is Heroic
Yes
never saw that one
It goes Common Rare Epic Heroic
is there anywhere i can show a picture?
i wanted to show my mirror so you guys could suggest changes
#h1-for-new-players message read this
do you prefer stygian soul or infernal soul?
You can send pics by uploading it somewhere else and linking it here, discord will embed it
oh cool!
i'll try to do that
wait so i like send a dm to someone then link that?
You can
You can also just send it in a private server if you have that
Or upload to imgur or any hosting site
Read the mirror guide and copy it lol
Quite a few problems here that the guide can solve
i'd like to be able to save in the house of hades
when i'm doing like weapon upgrades or nectar stuff it's nice to know what i did will stay
When you do your upgrades and whatnot just enter a different chamber
The game will save automatically
What is the best way to upgrade that?
i'm upgrading every purple/red thing lol
I've unlocked them all
im still doubting stygian
guide a few messages above that
i've used stygian for a while and i quite like not having to go pick up the casts
Unless you're using a cast weapon it doesnt matter, just preference, again, as written in the guide
yep
I think mine is a disaster then
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/737924122289504297/992834982210973707/unknown.png
Can always spend a key to respec it
also which upgrades should i boost most?
I've bought everything a key can buy, so every key is an extra from now
same for me
Yea keys become near useless pretty early in the grind
It depends on your darkness really
You want Dark Foresight and Fated persuasion maxed but they're expensive
i have a total of like 4K i think
persuasion defs
I traded everything for keys, I haven't play that much, bought the game sunday night and played every day
Just 38 attempts and my keys are now just for trade for anything else
i think i can do foresight tho
same
Something like Family Favorite is really cheap and a substantial damage increase every run so it's good to do
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