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@gray haven see the issue is i just don’t understand how to get builds the way I want. It just seems like everything is based on chance and i do not know how to manipulate that
Olympian God Keepsakes will help a lot when it comes to targeting certain boons
The mirror is also quite important
they ensure that you will get a boon from that god the next boon you get
Ok yo so real quick, what's better, death defiance or stubborn defiance?
and they increase rarity chance
Depends i prefer death defiance and i think its better for newer players
i dunno i feel new myself haha
Okay yeah probably since I sometimes die more than twice
I haven't managed to beat the king and the minotaur yet
right
youll get there
||using heat allows you to get the titan blood, diamond, ambrosia with a weapon you already escaped with||
make sure to upgrade your mirror alot
yeye i've got most stuff maxed out on that already
I'll do the 10 key upgrade for more talents later
I wanna get the gun first
OHHH SO ITS FARMING I SEEE…..
Rail is fun
honestly having a gun sounds fun ngl
oh well I'll get used to difficult stuff eventually
gungeon was really the first game to hand me some serious difficulty ngl
even tho my first beat of the game was with a really insane build with the chaos shield
In most cases, maxed death
Dear god no it’s hard to use
I can’t build on it to save my life
fair argument
however
I always seem to get a hammer that makes it homing bullets on my runs mind you i have only done 3 runs with it
pew pew
Low damage and no stun is cringe
I got the bow for that
And Chiron is actually easy to use and good
I wonder what the mods for this game are like
Gonna check those out after I beat most of the game, so probably not soon
I think it’s just skins and whatnot
oh
weapons could've been cool but ye fair seems like a hard game to mod
I am looking forward to playing later today
man how much fun i am having with figuring out which duos i like
Depends on build
What’s your style?
i found a posedion and ares one that i thought was soo cool and it turned out it was bad
Like, melee hit and run?
Or ranged
My builds focus on crits and dashes
well my builds change depending on the weapon
I tried to do a stupid cast build but since I don’t actually have a cast based aspect, that doesn’t work
Dio casts are always great though
so for the chaos shield i rarely ever go for athena bc it has built in defence
but instead ill go for ares zeus and posedion, so i dont ahve to aim much and i can just run away
so run i guess
Generally you start with one god keepsake in Tartarus and switch to another god keepsake in Asphodel. After that, you just take keepsakes for survivability (typically the Evergreen Acorn) or utility otherwise (e.g., the Bone Hourglass). That's why usually builds are centered on two gods. You also try to avoid gods that aren't important to your build (except for Master Chaos and Lord Hermes, those two will never hurt your build because they work differently from the other gods (no Duo Boons etc.)).
When you can't avoid taking boons from another god, you only pick boons that don't hurt your odds of getting what you want. For example, don't take a Special boon from somebody else if you want Heartbreak Flourish; don't take boons that unlock Duo Boons with Lady Artemis or Lady Aphrodite if you want their Duo Boon (Heart Rend) because then you might end up being offered Lightning Rod instead of Heart Rend...; etc.
There's a lot more nuances, of course. You'll get better at all of that the more experience you get. I don't expect you to get a Heart Rend build, for example, as powerful as I would get because I have over 1k hours in the game and have been talking strategies and build meta and everything since Early Access. But I can at least give you direction, so that you at least know what to look for and try to get. And I think that's already helping a lot because now you at least know what to aim for to get something powerful, you just gotta figure out how to get there.
Do you do attack, special or cast builds?
special
Just use the Zeus aspect then
And the other things that help a lot aside from getting more experience yourself are studying boon requirements, so you get a better understanding what unlocks what, and just discussion with other players.
Why would you use chaos for special
I don’t use shield much
But damn I don’t think chaos is a special build
So i need both aphro-artemis special for heart rend yes?
Maybe it isnt, but i like the ablity to throw it and inflict doom on enemies around me and let it bounce all over the place. And if there are enemies left i get ready to bullrush around. But i dunno if its the best use for it
Well, you can't get the Special from both. You can only have one Special boon. These are the requirements to have a chance at being offered Heart Rend from them:
One of each:
Lady Aphrodite: Heartbreak Strike, Heartbreak Flourish, Crush Shot, or Passion Dash
Lady Artemis: Deadly Strike, Deadly Flourish, or True Shot
So long as you have one of those boons from each of them, you have a chance of being offered Heart Rend when you pick up any of their boons.
Deadly Strike + Heartbreak Flourish will unlock Heart Rend, and it also perfectly plays into the typical Special > Dash-Strike x2 combo of Nemesis.
Heart Rend will increase your crit damage to enemies that are Weak.
Heartbreak Flourish will apply Weak, and then your crits from Deadly Strike will do extra damage.
Are there anymore champions of elysium than just asteroid and the other guy
Zag mentions heracles
Theseus?
i dunno if there are any other main champions but the people of elysium are champions ingeneral
There's only one Champion of Elysium, and that's King Theseus.
Ok yo what's better
fiery presence, the more damage on undamaged enemies thing or
the backstabbing one
It depends on the weapon and what you're attempting
ic ic
even though some new players dont understand the bow at first, its an extremely simple weapon to use. all you do is dash, hold attack till the powershot window, release. its ranged which makes it a safe weapon as long as you are dash powershotting. other melee weapons have more complicated attack chains and dps often comes at the expense of placing you into close range while using dashes. the only stumbling block is learning to dash powershot and realizing that standing attacks are gunna get you killed
How does aspect of eris work with rocket bomb? Do you have to be close to the bomb when it hits?
yeah
The radius is quite forgiving tho
And the rockets is instantaneous
So Rocket Eris is very strong
Yeah
I was wondering about it because I recently tried out rail(eris), and didn't get how that one was supposed to work
Point-blank is often the range you want to be in with Eris anyway.
Yeah I've noticed that
very fun to spam cluster bomb and get up in the enemies faces
Eris build meta is incredibly optimized at this point since early on in version 1.0 and even all the way up to 1.38ish, the speedrun leaderboard was like 90% Eris runs lol.
yeah, using hangover with festive fog and the dionysus legendary boon, with poseidon dash
absolutely destroying crowds
along with cluster bomb
That works, but the go-to build is Lightning Strike with Static Discharge and Tidal Dash.
yeah
that was my plan
but I didnt find lightning strike so i settled for hangover strike
You didn't start with the Thunder Signet?
i did
i cant remember if i picked something else
or if lightning stirke wasnt an option
Ah, usually if he doesn't offer Lightning Strike, you just grab Electric Shot and hope to see Lightning Strike later. Drunken Strike is definitely a great pivot, though.
Is hangover a bit underwhelming or am i building it wrong?
I had hangover on fist attack. With 2 of the duo boons, the one with crit chance and the one that deals dmg faster
The hangover still felt very weak overall
how many poms you had in it?
I think i dumped all i had on it when it appeared on the pom selection
let me see if i have a screenshot of the run
if you have the admin chamber you can see it there too
I can't post screenshots here
post in other server/sites like imgur and copy the link
there are embed perms
uh better post it in the victory boasting channel (as it is showing some post final boss things)
can you have more than one duo boon
i got the one i wanted but i am offered another
Ik
well you have 4 of them 
||but hes buff||
binding space + attack to my left click button has worked charms for me
This game is so amazing lol
I died 24 times trying to beat Meg and I still can't but I'm having fun
So good
I personally went with Chiron Bow at first as it's a pretty forgiving weapon for a newer player (being a distance weapon) and very powerful with the heatseeking special.
But obviously the bow might not be for everybody, so if you prefer closer range, there's good options. It's just generally about finding what weapon you enjoy stock and seeing what you'd like from the upgrades.
I see
Exagryph and the Bow are in fact my favorite weapons
it actually depends on what my mood is, if I'm feeling confident I'll go fist/sword otherwise ranged weapons
In my case I honestly don't even have a preference between close range and long range
I just select the weapon that has the purple glow thing on since it gives me more of that purple elixir thing anyway
I forgot the name
All of the weapons seem fun to me so playing a different one each time is cool
Varatha would probably be my favourite weapon
Sure, it's a video game.
Finishing is also a good way to get darkness
Since the last 2 bosses give more then than the first 2
And you have more time to get Chaos Eclipses and maybe Ocean’s Bounty and Sunken Treasure
I've had nearly 3k darkness in one 40 minute run (1162 from the final boss alone). So while it's tempting to farm short runs, it's definitely not the most efficient approach once full runs are reliably doable).
But it's a very easy way to do it, so I understand the temptation.
But the way I would think of it most of all, at least personally, is that if you're just farming Tartarus for Darkness and then resetting in magma is something you do because it's easy for you... well, it also means you're only getting practice in the regions that are already easy for you. But it takes longer to get to the parts that are harder for you, the regions where you need more practice. So instead of throwing the run, you can just push forward and get a little more practice against the tougher opponents. And if you die while doing that, well... it's the same result as if you just farmed and reset except you also got a bit of practice in. And then maybe instead of just Tartarus becoming the easy region, it'll be Tartarus and Asphodel that are easy for you because you've played them so much.
But if you don't try to push through Asphodel, then that's just not gonna happen.
Yeah, dying might feel like failure, but it's all part of the game anyway.
i think i am finally getting used to ||styx but i wanted to ask is there a best way to approach it or do you just throw yourself in and hope||
Minibosses first
I've been playing hades since Sunday
Only found out yesterday that
the spear throw thing can hit twice
and by extension backstab
Hammerless spear special is quite weak
In terms of relying on it as your main source of damage
Easier to predict or? Bc i have been going with them first anyways bc i found it easier
They are easier to predict yea
right
They're also faster
ooooh okay
They definitely take some practice tho
unless you get tiny vermin 
Vermin can be annoying yea
It’s hard for me and I’ve played a lot
Tony 😔
i have been getting through them every round, this last one that i did i thought i was gonna lose but i made it out with one death defiance
Very annoying but they kinda cute so you win some and you lose some
||How many times do I need to beat Hades(after the first 10 times)to reach the epilogue?||
is it just random when the quest comes up?
If you reached credits then the quest is already up, it's just a matter of how fast you can do it at that point
It's not related to beating the final boss anymore
how do i know when its up?
Have you got to the credits?
yeah
Spoiler that
||When the Queen returns to the house she should tell you more about what to do||
||she's already back, but it just seems like regular dialogue. She hinted at the quest, but didnt really give it. Do I just need to go out and meet every god again on my next few runs?||
||Yea she only hints at it, doesnt tell you exactly what to do||
If you want to know what you're supposed to do: ||Progress your relationship with the Olympian Gods||
||so do I just repeatedly give them MORE nectar?||
Yup
oh damn that might be hard, im always super low on it and Ive been trying to use it to progress relationships with the ppl i can romance
do I count as a new player if I still haven't reached ||epilogue||
||To be specific you have to reach the locked heart for 6 of them, so not all but yea||

||how do i get that? just nectar over and over, or do I use their keepsakes?||
||The locked heart is only for Demeter I think, for the others you have to fill the locked heart so it's also doing their favor and gifting 1 Ambrosia afterwards||
Do boons count in the prophecy if you purge them or replace them?
ok rq
who should I go for first in the king and the minotaur fight
I got 199 hp
3 death defials
I'm about to go up agaist em
I wanna finally beat them
ok
guess I'm going for asterius
Good choice since Theseus can be mitigated by careful positioning.
I always kill king first since after you play for a moment minotaur becomes super easy to.dodge
And king can spam aoe attacks
i have a question||can you even beat charon and what would be the reason to fight him?? that fight was fun but i died so fast||
||He can give you a discount for the rest of the run||
Okay so sorta worth it but eh its alot of work
only if you get him below half hp
||assuming there isnt a third phase i was one crit off of beating hades||
Hello
The farthest I've gotten is the Bone Snake thing
But I'm generally new to Hades so I was looking for any tips/tricks
the mirror helps a lot
getting keepsakes helps
do you have a favorite weapon? if so then some boons are better on it than others
you can manipulate this to certain extent by keepsakes
which I think you can get quite early
I mainly use the Shield or Spear but I'm leaning more on the Shield side
okay do you know how keepsakes work?
I think so
You equip one before you go out and it gives you a certain 'boost' of some sort
Like, one gives you 100 gold as soon as u start sorta thing
yeah. the keepsakes given by the gods guarantee the next boon you see is from that God
which is how you make "builds"
I have a keepsake from Aphrodite
here is a good starting "build" guide. you can experiment if you would like of course
but if you want some guidance
it's a good start
Thanks!
Btw, is there any God that I should go for over others?
Like zeus or something
that depends on weapon
general yes
the guide i sent should give you some clues as for which god to go for on what
I run shield for now
I'll have a look, good day :]
Hello fellow members, I’m new to Hades. My main concern is the boone system and how that works. I know a bit but not much. I also really like the bow a lot, but I’ll continue experimenting with other weapons too. If anyone has just general tips let me know, thanks.
For bow in specific always do dash strike, much faster for a little bit less of dmg (but can scale both of attack boons and dash strike boons)
Dashing gives you iframes that dissapear when you dash strike
The way you dash strike is you press dash then attack afterwards
Ok
The window is quite lenient
Ok
Reason is: The bow attack charges faster
Ohh ok
does slightly less damage than a standing strike but has more ways to scale
And again, faster
Is powershot the attack button but charged?
When you press your attack button and hold it, it'll charge, at some point it'll flash which is the cue to release it for extra damage
Known as a powershot, has a slightly different animation and sound
no 
Ok thank you! I do that quite often, I just didn’t know it was called a powershot that’s all! Any Boon recommendations for the bow. I use Deadly Flourish and that’s very helpful.
The base bow's main source of damage is the attack
You should prioritize getting an Attack first
Since the attack has good base damage it's best to look for a boon that further increases it as opposed to one that adds flat damage
so Artemis (due to crit) and Aphrodite (due to big %) are preferred
Ok
But others like Athena/||Demeter|| can work too
Mike spoiler marked it for a reason 
Spoiler marked it late 
Whos Demeter
Back to the thing, base bow special is quite weak and you usually dont use that unless occasionally to clear projectiles etc, the damage is really bad and you never rely on it
should spoiler that
and this
How do I do that
I wrote it and it wasnt spoilered for a sec my bad
Put || at start and end of whatver you want to spoiler mark
Or check pinned messages
|| like this ||
yup
Where's the furthest everyone has gotten?
I’ve gotten to the third part, that’s it.
Are the fists good? I haven’t gotten them yet, but are they the keys they say they are?
I’ve seen minor gameplay on them and they look fun
there is no bad weapon, you can safely unlock whatever you like
Ohh ok
Well, there are some poor aspect weapons, mostly in said aspects being largely pointless for what you're putting in.
But generally you can't go wrong
About the epilogue
||whats the most efficient way to get to the epilogue? Focus all of my nectar on one god at a time or multiple?||
||ive been farming nectar by trading gemstones for keys, and keys for nectar but I dont want to end up wasting it||
||a goddess that can gift you boons after you beat Hades once||
||Can you give nectar to persephone?|| It hasn’t let me yet if you can.
yes ||in the future||
Only after 10 escapes
Deep pockets is better so you can buy stuff early on, you wanna be spending gold so Golden Touch almost never nets good value
Thick skin usually, unless you’re speedrunning or know what you’re doing
Spoiler ||demeter|| 
||you only have to see hades once in the final fight to have demeter available to you, you don't have to beat hades.||
Wait
Should I spend all of my dark elixir or whatever (I keep forgetting what it's called) on Deep pockets and thick skin or
Keep saving up for the third death defiance upgrade
I'm at like 600-700 rn
Maxing thick skin is good, save deep pockets later
Third DD is a must for new players
It’s only around 300 darkness from where you’re at so I’d suggest that you save for it
Got that and about 2 levels of both Thick skin and deep pockets
I now have 4 DDs with Skelly's tooth
very cool
maybe save that skelly tooth for later and prioritize boons early in the run if that makes sense
Yea definitely take a different keepsake for the earlier biomes
If you have some sort of good damage going you’ll struggle overall a lot less when it comes to rooms and bosses
Winging it with whatever the game gives you requires a lot of experience and knowledge of the weapons
all good we are all learning
i usually go with 2 boon keepsakes for the first and second biome and then acorn for the 3rd and tooth for the 4th (i havent needed it but i take it too be safe)
Also
How do I fully utilize the casts
I don't really use them that much but they're probably useful
I've basically been ignoring them so far
It depends on how you like to play
sometimes ignoring it is fine bc you want to prioritize making your attack/special more efficient
Try to always lodge a cast in beefier enemies for boiling blood
Or to finish off some small stuff
That’s mostly gonna be your usage if you’re not playing a cast weapon
I see
Ok few things
What's the point of the administrative chamber
Why and when do the weapons change their appearance? P sure my spear changed.
Why do the rewards for bosses change? How do I get titan blood, diamonds and ambrosia instead of getting darkness?
Q1/ checking previous runs-stats on weapons, some npc requests needs you to have access to it
Q2-you unlock aspects after getting all weapons and changing to one changes the aspect
Q3- you get the bounties (titan blood, etc) when you beat a boss with that weapon for the first time
Still slightly confused with two and three
By my second question I meant their actual appearance. I know what aspects are, so what I meant was alt-skins, I guess. I'm wondering what the requirement for getting an alt one is since I'm p sure my spear got a new skin.
Three, I dunno, I might be confused and maybe I just forgot what I beat the bosses with before, but I think I've gotten the bounties after killing bosses with a weapon that I already defeated them with. Again, might just be confused.
Thanks for the reply, though
There are no alt skins
Aspects change the way weapons look and that’s pretty much it
OH
Alr got it
And for the third thing, sometimes your bounties might be unfinished
So you get like Darkness for the first three bosses then titan blood for the 4th
Etc
Zag bow special is ass
Troll moment
And that’s what I said?
?
Sorry I misunderstood
I thought you meant that aspects only change appearance
Not that only aspects can change appearance
What is there to do after beating the game for the first time?
Alot of story.
you have to beat the game 10 times to get to the end and then epilogue but there are a bunch of little goodies left for you to unpack or so i have heard
Got it, thanks!
Okay woah
The shield can actually be pretty good
I've realized that now
now that I've started to ACTUALLY USE IT as a shield
Do i still count as a new player if i escaped about 25 times now 
And my fastest run us 18 minutes
hi i have a question
i have 4 keys but idk which weapon i should pick
any recommendations?
Probably not mate
pretty new to the game myself but
I just unlocked the other weapons randomly
Got whatever I had the keys for, eventually getting them all
Yeah the spear is pretty cool
also what does the red gem thing do when i right click
You are gonna unlock them all eventually doesnt really matter in what order
alright
oh your cast
ah alright
boons will upgrade it and change it to know back or cause more damage when it dislodges
||Beat hades for the first time like an hour ago today||
fun
Almost defeated him again but I forgot to use something that probably would've pushed me towards that second dub
guess I'll get em next time
it is a very fun rush to beat the game for the first time
i did it a few days ago now
and i plan to play tomorrow a bit more and maybe get a beat with the bow or spear
I still gotta figure out how to correctly play the bow and the gun
I found out how to actually properly play the shield with y'know
actually blocking
Which I never did beforehand
The shield got me my first win
nice
same here
but i did very little blocking with it
i think i know exactly how to use it now
Though actually noticing that you're getting better is neat
Theseus and Asterius were still a pretty big deal for me like 2-3 days ago, now I've beaten them 6-7 times I think
||Fighting hades again after that first win wasn't nearly as overwhelming either since I sort of knew what he was capable of by then||
||I almost got him||
dude was at like 20%
||dude spoiler tag the finall boss||
oh sorry I thought it was
Final boss-onward
Nvm
That's what it means
I'm slightly stupid
all good
you’ll get used to the final boss real fast dont worry its more so styx that can be a bit hard
yeah
I'm gonna start actually taking Chaos' boons now since I found out the risk was definitely worth it
I'm pretty sure paired with one boon and another from Poseidon I was at like
+120% of uhh
Reward stuff
Darkness and what not
If not +140%
I wanna get a real lot of gems fast
Buying the cosmetic stuff and seeing it around the place is pretty neat
i think most of his boons are useless 😭 Except for maybe his call but thats eh too
I mean
hm
Meh I've picked his stuff up anyway since it looks cool I guess
And knockback + rupture is okay
Dash is great
its just me, you like it go ahead
call is fun with rip current
i guess but i always have athena on dash
what do you mean
the thing you get
so you dont take damage when you go in and have and increased chance of having it
egg
indeed
egg only increases rarity not chaos gate chance
yeah your right, my bad
how do you unlock Hades' heart and get his keepsake? I've already ||beaten Hades himself and met Persephone once|| but his heart is still locked
||you gotta beat hades 10 times||
||you need to beat him 10 times for the ending as well||
yeah, after that you should be able to gift nectar to him
Cosmic egg
Removes gate damage and gives you better stuff
how can i keep giving nectar to hades?
I was only able to give him one and i thought maybe getting one run would be enough to do so but i still cant
do like. 9 more
Ah rip, so much for building up a better relationship with my dad
does giving nectar to boon gods do anything in particular or just friendlier dialogue? @polar finch
uh. related to story stuff post game
pretty far ahead so not a whole lotta reason to rn
Ive just been giving it to demeter so far because I like her
so I shouldnt give it to the olpypian gods?
outside of initial keepsake
uhhh characters that have a tangible benefit for giving more nectar after the first are ||meg, skelly, sisyphus, dusa, thanatos, and achilles/patty||
ah so none of the|| Olypmian gods will really do anything for me then after intial keepsake outside of more dialogue||
well i guess ill just save it then except give it to the ones i like
pretty much
Ireally like dionysus and demeter
theres maybe some prophecies
Just the keepsakes
For early game anyways
ok wow I suck at fishing
same here
last 2 fish just ggrggr
hhhh
@rocky iris ||I beat hades again||
with the spear this time
still had 2 death defials left too
awesome
You should spoiler the final boss in this channel
I did
how can I get my 1st call boon?
Keep doing more attempts
There should be a scripted event
That introduces calls to you
It’s very early
Was there a pin somewhere for weapon upgrade tiers?
Keep in mind it’s only for the first few titan blood that you acquire
Ta
well done
Not really
It’s quite easy for me
I catch 90% of the time, and get a perfect 80% of the time I land it
Try not to be too twitchy, there are many fake-outs
But do be ready
Does Pressure Points also count towards Doom?
Yes
“Any damage” probably means yes
I wonder if hangover can crit with pressure points
It wouldn’t do anything
But still
It can
That’s kinda weird
Ooh hell yeah fat juicy 15 damage
And that’s assuming you have a heroic
Hangover is meant to be pommed
Oh yeah
And I’m not sure if the whole stack is meant to crit
Forgor that those exists
I have dire misfortune and pressure points and it feels so good to deal nearly 500 damage in a couple swings
and now i have merciful end
m like 99% sure, without recording a clip to double-check, that if an enemy is inflicted with 5 stacks of Hangover that each do e.g. 10 damage, it counts as a single hit of 50 damage rather than 5 hits of 10 damage. Definitely as far as crits are concerned because you would never see a Hangover crit of 30 from a single stack + 40 normal hits from the other 4 stacks or anything like that. It would just be a single hit that crits for 150. I used to think that each stack can crit individually, but I've never seen that happen. At least not when I paid attention.
Yea thought so too
Maybe it's counted as individual hits for god gauge gain, though. I don't know that. I don't care enough to research it because it's not practical knowledge. Wouldn't change anything about how I play. 
to go a lil more depth, fishing has a max of 3 fakeouts, after that it's guaranteed
the delay is also a tell if there'll be a fakeout or not because it's a much longer pause
If i'm not mistaken, it's very uncommon to have the reaction speed to reliably get the perfect catches in this game when they aren't on the 4th bite.
Since our brain has to process the visual cue we saw (in this case, process if the bite is false or not), this delay extends the reaction time beyond what the average person can react to.
Ye I barely ever react on time lol
Adhd doesn't help I'll just basically forget I'm fishing
Zone out while waiting
I kind of got a perfect on the 1st bite
Actually, second
It was one past the first then it instantly just dipped
Didn’t know that, thanks
My reaction speed is very average (250ms), i only got mine on the fourth bite. Anything before that was because i was luck enough to pre-fire and get a bite instead of a miss.
Really? It’s easy enough to get a perfect on bites before 4
The legendary fish ones? not for me
You can test your reaction speed on the website human benchmark
maybe your reaction speed is above average
Mine is okay iir
I think it’s just that I’m more prepared and I’m already applying slight pressure to my mouse beforehand
So I actually just have to twitch and not click
When it's on the fourth bite i get it 99% of the time, since there's no delay in processing the information, since i know it's always a bite, the reaction speed is enough to get it
But the delay from your brain seeing if it's a bite or not slows me enough that i miss the time window
The sound of an actual kind of startles me and I shake a bit
Especially when I crank the volume@up
i count one to three every bite to measure that delay i mentioned
if it bites during the count it's real
it's surprisingly consistent
Smart
I tried that before but the bites are kinda random
I just scare myself using high volume to twitch real fast
Sometimes it comes really fast and sometimes it just sits there
yeah the fish that come on first bite get me often though 
Now that I've started speedrunning most fish get ignored so I no longer have to feel bad about my reflex 

I feel like it was easier for me to get a bite with a controller compared to the mouse?
But yeah i do this with the trigger on the controller as well
It helped quite a lot
If you don’t mind going deaf, turn your volume up real high, and apply slight pressure to your e key
Only works with headphones
Also what helped was kind of keeping the lure in my peripheral vision? Cause apparently your peripheral reaction speed is faster than if you’re centering your gaze on it
By “real high” I mean like absolute max
Really? Didn’t know that
Startle yourself into a perfect catch?
Yeah thats what I’m saying
By absolute max you mean bass boosted kind of max
Just scare yourself so you twitch and click E
If you wanna
Depends on how deaf you wanna be
Yeah
I've only gotten it on the first thing like
2 times ever since I got the rod
...which isn't much considering that was like 4 days ago but you get the point
Only caught 2 fish so far
Can I play hades on nivida gtx mx230 and i7- 1065g7 with 64-bit
idk probably hades doesnt require a good pc
It's 340ms for a perfect catch. With average reaction speed that's perfectly doable like 99% of the time with a decent monitor. TVs add a lot of display lag if they're not in "gaming mode", which most modern TVs have now (potentially under a different name), so that's often an issue why players struggle with fishing. But even with gaming mode enabled, TVs have a lot more display lag than any gaming monitor.
It can take a little bit of practice, too, and you should ignore the bobs and just look for a white flash above the bobber instead.
Also, there can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. And from what I can tell, fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous fake bob.
That might also help.
Though if you just look for the white flash, I think most players shouldn't have too much trouble with it after a bit of practice to recognize the cue.
I read about what you said on monitors affecting the reaction speed.
bruh i went from having so much difficulty beating hades to beating him 5 times in a row
I can legit never get a catch when im using my monitor for some reason, I just switch to handheld on my Switch whenever I need to make a catch
Spoiler tags. 
But well done!
my bad ill put them on next time
is rush delivery affected by lambent plume speed bonus?
yes
You’ll get there
dont worry he seems difficult at first but soon you’ll learn it all and be able to beat him to a pulp or in my case repeatedly almost beat him to a pulp and still have fun
seconded! once you get a hang of the patterns, it gets really easy
what build should I do with ||excalibur||
how do i unlock weapons or upgrades?
Ive already beaten the game and have some titan blood but i cant find the options to unlock them or upgrade
unlock all weapons then do a run to unlock aspects
doesn't need much, just a good percentage boon for attack, aphro is great
Are Dialogues/conversations missable?
Okay uh
I'm not getting new bounties anymore ||with heat||
I wanna get some diamonds but the bounties aren't refreshing with ||more heat anymore||
how do i unlock the last heart for gods?
Icant go further for nyx
and im on the last heart for demeter but she wont accept any nectar
It is.
You have to keep filling up the ||heat gauge||
But I tried that
The thing even says "new bounties unlocked" but there are no new bounties
...wait maybe I need to get every single prior bounty
That can't be it though
They should be available with enough heat, are the Titan Blood / Diamond / Ambrosia / Titan Blood markers greyed out?
Nope
Only greyed out when I have less ||heat|| or as much as the time before
Maybe this is the thing?
I need to get all bounties from the previous level of ||heat|| maybe
You have to get all 4 before moving on to the next bounty
alr makes sense now
Then do more ||heat||
Or fill out the entire bounty list
yeah this one was what was causing that
Yeah, It wouldn’t be fair to let people just scale ||heat|| up and farm Titan blood
Spoilers, folks... 
Forgot
I wonder what breed of dog Cerberus is
I also find it a crime that this server doesn’t actually have a Cerberus based emote
Scottish Borker
I’m not sure if that’s an actual breed
There's an animated Cerberus emoji.
Have I ever lied to you Circular?
Oh
You haven’t even talked to me?
I just find it that the name’s a bit too silly to be true
The answer is yes because it's not a real breed
When I searched it up it said “ border terrier”
Exactly
But this is an actual question what breed is our favorite three headed boi
ambrosia?
is there no way to restore progress after a power loss?
So i havent beaten the game in awhile i have only done one beat of the game so far but i have gotten to ||hades many times now|| and it isnt bc i cant beat it. Its just i am in no rush to do so, and i am worried that i might be burning out Or something
wow that worked, thanks
When using fated persuation, ||does it reroll boon rarity, or will they stay the same||?
There is a chance that you receive the same boon but with better rarity
So it can
Just beat ||hades|| for the first time 🎉
I dont have the option to offer them ambrosia eithrt
Amd I have one 10 sitting in my inventory right now
Just bot sure what I cam do to unlock the final heart for boon gods
you need to beat the 3rd area in order to obtain the item that unlock the last heart of bonding
some need progress stories
Actually I kind of like phase 2 more than 1
At least you don't have to ||deal with those damn wretches||
Also I just beat ||hades|| for the 8th time
Only a few more until ||THE LOREEE|| is fully revealed
yeah def
its annoying to deal with them
they have WAY TOO MUCH HP
TRUE
finish the epilogue
it doesn’t unlock till after that
By that do yiu mean after
You know who comes home with them
keep maxing out bonds with the olympians (demeter at the lock counts but all the others have to have full bond) and you know who will tell you what to do
reminder that ||Demeter|| is a spoiler in this channel
A good rule of thumb is that if its final boss dependent its a spoiler for this channel
Okay so keep maxing bonds
As much as I can anyway
I reached the last lock for chaos and can't give him anymore nectar
Amd was wondering if it was a bug
need to do Chaos favor (reunite them with Nyx)
I dont think you are a new player if you are that far into the story
I've only got like 10 hours in the game so I still consider myself a newbie
Been only playing it for two days
And you made that much progress under 10 hours?? Wow i could never 
Id say I just got lucky with some boons 
Straight up some combos will make you melt bosses
My record is like 22 minutes with demeters
My fastest is 18 minutes but i got the game in last august
See you're already better than me then lol id still say I'm a newbie time wise spent

Not to mention I dont understand how to unlock the final hearts and half the mechanics still
I mean we progress at different paces and learn different things
I feel bad for meg now, after dying to her the first time her attack patterns are just so easy to understand that it's pretty much free
Right now the only one I even have trouble with anymore is the 3rd boss and thats because he's a pain
||EM1 makes it a whole load more interesting||
is that the ||minator|| ?
No its his annoying sidekick
Cant say name for obvious reasons but
shield and spear ?
Yes
all cause the others guys attack didn’t block 😭
Shield makes that fight eays least though
He isnt that bad
yeah
Same with Crystal beam
Mine was with bow with aspect that did tracking arriws
+500% damage with charge when in power hit
his attacks can be forced by getting up close but once you learn it all it gets easy
oh damn
i don’t really like the bow tbh
Combine that with demeter that makes people explode at 10 chill stacks
demeter ?
The bow can be eztremly broken with the right combo
I only just unlocked it
yeah idk a lot tbh i started like yesterday 💀
the hydra was kinda chill tbh
they are very chill
just kinda annoying ||with all the heads and their shields||
Do you have the aspect of hera? If you pair it with trippy flare/crush shot/flood shot its crazy
not a clue what that is 😭
they probably havent unlocked every weapon yet
Oh so the aspect of Hera loads the cast WITH the boons it had into your attack?
Might be pretty useful then
Thought it just put the cast crystal thing in foes and nothing else
Its the best aspect you can get early, and you dont even have to level it up for it to work well
nah i haven’t gotten the gauntlet or whatever it is yet
what is the max level for Gods' Pride?
It's the Epic chance right
If so then 20% I think
kk thanks
I bought Hades today!
very cool
I got it gifted last Sunday
I'm spending way too much time on it
be prepared to not do anything else for like a month

Yep, I bought the game 8 days ago and have put 50 hours into it.

This game is a trap. I'll tell myself "ah I'll just do one run" and suddenly I'm multiple escape attempts in. Its 2 AM. I have to get ready for work at 6
🥲
I would have taken an extended break long ago on similar games, but this one has a story that actually has me coming back, the world feels alive and everything is so well made
So I've been sucked in
Hey, I started playing 2 days ago and I have already completed the first 2 floors and maxed all the starting mirror upgrades
i still dont know for what do I have to use the materials you get for beating each floor with each weapon, can someone tell me ?
Hi, so you're wondering what's the use of titan blood?
Titans blood: used to ungrade your weapons aspects
Crystal/diamond: used to make upgrades with the house contractor
ok
you may not beable to upgrade the weapons now but as soon as you unlock them all you Should be able to
ok
||please do spoiler tag The final boss||
I just need one more weapon
is that a spoiler?
then I wont read it
NONO read it
in case no one else read it, I deleted it
cool
byee
You can use it to upgrade weapons once you've unlocked all the weapons.
ok ty
what does weedrag do?
Wdym
its similar to honey but you get it beating floor 3 i think
i’m so annoyed
i was about to go into a boss fight
i was on 11 hp
i went through 3 other stages with no healing items
then died 😭
Weedrag?
what’s that lmfao
I think they're meaning ambrosia?
oh
hi, only englesh on chat?
could someone explain to me what the "bot-commands" chat is for?
If you want to get some self-assignable roles, you use this channel
Could you give me an example please?
You gave yourself the Hades role
@rocky iris I just don't understand every game aspect.
I understand every bit of mythology in the game as I love Greek mythology
sure
However I'm just wondering if there are any general tips
but you dont quite get how to do things
the general ones are upgrade the mirror for darkness
early game ignore most other rooms and try to get darkness and keys
Yea, that I've been doing I have everything maxed except the one that costs 500
darkness for the mirror and keys for unlocking your weapons
try to aim for one ability builds (attack special and cast) till you learn the ropes
do you have the codex yet?
You can find my Newbie Build Guide in the pins here.
Yes I do
I have all the Olympians except Demeter
yeah so
coronavht is good, my personal favorite
sword is good for ppl that enjoy it
My brother only uses the sword lol
what aspect
it's good
I love the spear
hidden and base
What are aspects?
they're variants of each weapon
Ok
and melee wise
you unlock a ton more weapons
the spear is clearly the best choice
it makes the game so fun
i know people really like the shield but, eh
not for me at leaat
Not for me
i really cant get the hang of it
after like 120 runs i use spear for positioning and a mix of ranged and melee
If you get a good boon you can have insaine reach
i even prefer the fists over the sword though, that uppercut special that hits twice can really deal some big numbers with the right boons
The thing that I hate is even if you get super far and past Tartarus you still restart at the house if hades
lmao wait till you get aspect of demeter
think i got really lucky with poms
it's fun you can oneshot the hydra phases
How do you unlock aspects?
you're good
So I need to wait until I get every weapon?
At a high level, you'll virtually never see Malphon's standing Special. It's like 99.9% Dash-Uppers and 0.1% normal Uppercuts maybe at most.
when i ran the fists i got that heroic boon from aphrodite
even managed to get it to level 10 through poms
i dunno how to use hestia yet
though i can already see someone saying
hestia is a sniper rifle
Just click > boom > click > boom.
shoot reload shoot reload
the normal attack on the fists is better than the special
Special at the same time you're using Reload.
it is
you can combo normal attack with dash attack so the attacks basically never end
probably the only time i used the special on a weapon
The thing that stinks is that I started playing on my series x with game pass and I'm gonna move to my PC with game pass but I'll have to restart on my pc
i don't like the special attack on most of the weapons
that's not good lmao
specials are important
except for bow
non Chiron bow at least
rapid fire on the bow is auto-pilot mode
Your save should transfer.
might as well play itself
Says so right there in #hades-faq, too.
Nice
not kidding
it's fun
i still don't think i've ever got the twin shot for the bow in a hammer
especially with triple shot
and i've ran the bow like 5 times now
that one is the best
i have like
So right now the best thing for me to do is to just grind for keys and darkness?
yep
try to get as far as you can
Alright
Just play and get better
I don't really agree. You shouldn't really worry too much about it and just play, try out different things.
I wouldnt specifically grind for anything
Maybe you find a cool build that you wanna try to optimize. Maybe you wanna try out a bunch of totally different builds.
Ok
anyway, i have no clue what hammer upgrades to go for on the sword
i really love hera
Builds?
Double Edge is the go-to usually
Followed by Breaching Piercing
maybe it's just build thing and needing to upgrade appropriately
but i find the sword damage lacking
OOOH YESSS… i think i just unlocked the secret aspect for my bow yesss wooooooo
||And Arthur also likes Shadow Slash||
makes me very happy
Yeah, like what boons and hammers you aim for etc. My Newbie Build Guide that's pinned here might help you get started with something solid from which to explore your options.
But you never know what boons or hammers you'll get right?
it's incredibly powerful
cast wise i have it noted to always go for either
And you have to restart your build every time due to you dieing
You can manipulate builds in certain ways
poseidons knock foes away cast
Like Keepsakes/mirror
Base sword damage is terrible.
or demeter's laser beams
And just knowing what to take
base sword is terrible
demeter's laser beams on bosses is hilarious with that chip damage
||She|| is actually a spoiler in this channel. 
how so?
Because ||you don't meet her until you've been to the final boss at least once||.
That makes sense
funny how the only thing god related you hear then is
@gray haven But you never know what boons or hammers you'll get right?And you have to restart your build every time due to you dieing
you can't get aphrodite/zeus/hermes/etc. on the first run
I just answered that 
i still have no clue why some gods would be unavailable on the first escape attempt other than the spoiler one
bc story i dunno what else to say
Yeah, like MiKE said, you use god keepsakes to get the boons you want. Normally one god keepsake in Tartarus and another god keepsake in Asphodel. And then you use keepsakes for survivability in the regions after that.
so for base sword
How do you change keepsakes
anything specific i should go for?
Or can you equip multiple?
You should learn to Special > x2 Dash strikes with a cast here and there strictly

i got to ||Hades||
i got to ||hades|| in 16 minute