#h1-for-new-players

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polar finch
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yep

vestal wind
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I mean its really hard to aim for me

tepid vale
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are you controller, kbm, or left stick+mouse

polar finch
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flight stick bouldy

tepid vale
celest fox
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Cast is easier to aim in melee range

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That defeats the point you think? No. Casts can output a lot of damage.

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Generally they're fast enough to just burst enemies down before they do anything

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Just keep investing in them so the damage stays relevant

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They have great pom scaling

polar finch
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mostly harder to hit in mid range ig. further away the tracking does more work

celest fox
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Yeah

tepid vale
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they're at their best when killing the last numskull on the opposite side of the room

celest fox
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Phalanx cant really track mid. It can track long and melee

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Basic cast sure

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Proper cast builds can do a lot

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It's an absolutely viable damage source and build

polar finch
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also helpful trying to find out where the heck that jumpy boi in aspho went to bouldy

celest fox
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Yeah

tepid vale
polar finch
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either way you want to use your cast for tart damage and in general boiling blood on tougher enemies

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that or they jumped over your head to the bottom or top corner to maybe the middle of the room when you checked that other corner

tepid vale
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top one reason asphodel is the worst biome

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second is the lava pools that spawn on you when you try to fish

polar finch
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when you try to fish then zag decides he'll walk around and into the lava instead of standing still bouldy

tepid vale
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if you walk onto the lava that's your own fault. you know zag is a slidy boi

celest fox
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Love to slip and slide with hypersprint

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Suddenly all attack animations make you glide

polar finch
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idk if its zag sliding or just deciding to walk on his own bouldy

opaque spruce
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There is only one thing I believe in the game that affects zeus bolts and stuff and that's the eris rail

polar finch
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not just eris

jade shuttle
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I see. I should probably drop boiling blood then for zeus shield build

opaque spruce
polar finch
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if it says plus attack damage or plus special or plus dashstrike then yeah it aint global

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billowing strength, rush delivery, bad influence

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theres more

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quite a lot more actually thanthink

viscid notch
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Zeus Shield base damage is great so I’d keep boiling blood

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You also spam your attack a lot

opaque spruce
polar finch
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yeah

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like theres over 15 maybe 20 sources of global damage

eternal heart
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if I have a god’s trinket will it keep offering me that gods boons if possible, even if i pass it up for an encounter or two?

viscid notch
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Once there is no number anymore it means you picked up that god and it no longer forces them

eternal heart
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thank you!

viscid notch
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A common tactic sometimes is to skip the god when offered so you have a better chance of seeing them as a miniboss (increased rarity)

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Although it’s not always correct but it’s a good maneuver to know

eternal heart
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oh that’s clever

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mine is leveling up in 4 encounters so I wanted to wait

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I have ares + artemis seeking blade on aspect of hera and I’m shredding folk

viscid notch
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Hunting blades is good yea

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If you wanna try big burst Hera go for Crush shot (Aphrodite)

eternal heart
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cool, i have zeus’ attack and the flurry shot(?) where you have no power shot but attack constantly

viscid notch
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Yea that’s Flurry

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Very nice hammer overall

eternal heart
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yeah it’s a lucky fun run

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i’m actually doing this with some of my fated mirror aspects because it’s a weapon I don’t play with much

viscid notch
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||Heat|| is a spoiler in this channel

eternal heart
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oh my bad

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I haven’t been playing very long time wise but I’ve been doing better than I expected so I might be getting far enough along to move out of this channel lol

polar finch
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yeah ngl its kinda hard to avoid spoilers here

humble herald
# eternal heart thank you!

the text of the keepsake description also changes after you've picked up the boon from the relevant god, from "The next boon you find will be from Zeus. His blessings have +20% chance to be Rare or better," before you pick up a Zeus boon in this example, to, "Zeus blessings have +20% chance to be Rare or better," after you've picked up the boon.

mild perch
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is it possible to reach 100% DR

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with god mode

viscid notch
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No

mild perch
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whats the max

viscid notch
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Since damage reduction is multiplicative

mild perch
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multiplicative to what?

tepid vale
mild perch
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ah

humble herald
# mild perch multiplicative to what?

Itself; if you have, say, 30% from weak and 10% from bronze skin, you don't take 60% damage (100-30%-10%), but 63% (0.9 * 0.7). If you had maxed god mode it would be 0.9 * 0.7 *0.2, or 12.6%; the wiki says that it maxes out at ~95% but I haven't checked that

mild perch
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i see

lilac flicker
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i probably asked this already but what stygius aspect is the best?

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i liked using it

valid shoal
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Nemesis but yoy can do fun builds with Poseidon or if you have the hidden. The base one is just boring

lilac flicker
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thanks so much

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would it be better if i just build the fists?

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zag aspect on fist seems kinda cool just worried it might be bad

leaden whale
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what is stygius

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oh

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just say sword lol

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hidden one is so much fun

lilac flicker
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oh the fists?

leaden whale
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hidden aspect

lilac flicker
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of the fist, right?

valid shoal
leaden whale
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I'm talking about the sword one

lilac flicker
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oh

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should i save for that?

leaden whale
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hidden sword is a completely different gig to the other swords

valid shoal
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If you can it’s worth a shot

leaden whale
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i unlocked all weapons so how do i upgrade them now?

gray haven
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Gotta do another run.

leaden whale
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so could i just die ?

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in the next round

gray haven
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You could.

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But might as well see how far you can go and get some resources.

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Maybe new dialogue with NPCs etc.

leaden whale
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i am standing on a trap with a fat ghost hitting me lmfao

gray haven
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Also btw asking the same question in multiple channels is kinda spammy. courte5AphroHeart courte5DusaBond

leaden whale
upbeat basin
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yop, from her biome and the last boss

viscid notch
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You can also get it in Styx shop for 1200 Gold or from Prophecies

leaden whale
upbeat basin
leaden whale
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Even if you kinda need to and know that you're going to die very soon regardless just standing in one place slowly taking the damage feels bad

grave storm
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yeah I take my headphones off when intentionally dying to collect special death dialogue

leaden whale
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Lmao

kind remnant
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If you're new you'll need resources and practice, might as well farm at the least and get better at bosses

leaden whale
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Yeah

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Game kind of encourages you to stay until your last stand tbh

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Maybe indirectly but still

lilac flicker
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i defeated the final boss

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what do i do

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im in a weird screen with my boons

valid shoal
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Embrace the victory and leave the screen

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Then go up

leaden iron
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just had a new record with the zag aspect of the spear

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but lowkey curious which aspect do you focus on for the spear

lilac flicker
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man it took me like 31 minutes

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hated every second of it

viscid notch
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Usually it has the best kit out of the all the spears overall

leaden iron
kind remnant
leaden iron
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so like

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when i tab after special

tight zealot
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it gets easier

kind remnant
viscid notch
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No

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That's not correct

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If you recall the spear you get nothing

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You have to launch yourself to your spear

mild perch
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how do you get weapons other than the 7 you get in the house

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or do they not exist

viscid notch
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Then you get the bonus for your next 4 attacks/casts

kind remnant
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Yes that, recall yourself to the spear, sorry

viscid notch
# mild perch or do they not exist

After you unlock the 6 base ones (using keys), do a run (doesnt matter if win or loss) and return to the house and interact with the weapons

mild perch
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yeah i know about aspects

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im asking if theres like other weapons

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not obtainable from house of hades

leaden iron
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how about the shield? i heard that everyone has their own fav shield aspect

viscid notch
viscid notch
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As in, it's even weaker at lower levels

leaden iron
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what build do you guys often go for for the demeter fist beside merciful end?

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like you will normally not get merciful end until elysium

viscid notch
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  • a good damage dash and possibly a call
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Zeus also wants Static Discharge otherwise damage can start lacking a bit

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Dionysus just wants poms altho rarity helps aswell but I wouldnt worry too much about that

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Besides, Doom by itself is good on fists

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Like it's just as good as those other 2 if you have some poms and decent supporting boons, even without Merciful End

leaden iron
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icic!

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tysm

eternal heart
edgy storm
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What is a good wepon

odd shoal
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The one you like the most

maiden ruin
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all of them

edgy storm
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bruh

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ok what is the funnest wepon

odd shoal
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All the weapons are balanced at this point in the game

edgy storm
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the most enjoyable wepon

leaden whale
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for non-aspect shield is best for mew players

odd shoal
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Depends on your preference lol

leaden whale
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blocking makes it easier

odd shoal
edgy storm
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what are aspects

leaden whale
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but play whats fun for u

odd shoal
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You unlock them later

edgy storm
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okie

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ill play shield

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thx

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what is the best boon?

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for sword mains

leaden whale
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best on sword is doom on special and deflect on attack and u try to get the Ares Athena Duo boon

edgy storm
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okie

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thx

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u get the aries boon by gifting him the fruit correct?

leaden whale
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nectar, and yea they each give a keepsake the first time except hades

edgy storm
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k

gray haven
edgy storm
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should I just keep killing myself trying to get the ares boon?

viscid notch
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Nah

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Play it out

edgy storm
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and give him a keepsakee?

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ok

viscid notch
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Try to learn enemy patterns and such

edgy storm
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yes

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The games visuals are stunning

viscid notch
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Ares isn't even especially good on sword unless you're going for Merciful End

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Which might be too early and inconsistent rn

edgy storm
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but ares boon gives doom which is really good i heard

viscid notch
edgy storm
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ok

polar finch
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well not like zag sword is especially great damage especially without dedge

edgy storm
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but like, what is the best keepsake tho

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thats my question

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for sword

polar finch
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i wouldnt be surprised if ares attack is similar dps to aphro

viscid notch
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It's hard to put a best for everything in a game that has this much complexity and depth to it

polar finch
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particularly when youre new

edgy storm
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ok, just tell me what to get then

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what boon do u use bruh

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i mean what keep sake do u use

polar finch
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well to begin with we probably play sword differently aka only dash striking

edgy storm
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thats what i do too

polar finch
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well just go aphro or ares it shouldnt matter much

edgy storm
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k ill do ares

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thanks

polar finch
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the main thing is experimenting yourself

edgy storm
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yes

unique cosmos
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okay so im like in styx

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and im really low

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my dmg is alright but could be better

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i hope i can make this

simple vector
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what is most important to prioritize for work orders with the gems

kind remnant
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There really aren't a ton that majorly affect game play. Fountain rooms are rare but awesome when you get them

leaden whale
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Just purchase all of the leftmost ones in the list

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First

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If you really don't care about decorations and some specific side quests

lilac flicker
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can you romance people on this game?

viscid notch
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You can

lilac flicker
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i;ll romance thanatos squirtheh

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how do i romance actually

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also how do i get companions?

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but isnt charon his

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thing

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older brother i mean

leaden whale
viscid notch
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You don’t have to max affinity iirc just unlock their locked heart and give them 1 Ambrosia and they should give it to you

viscid notch
lilac flicker
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i never get their favor

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i have dusa on the locked key heart

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i really want her companion

viscid notch
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Have you read the wiki to make sure you’re not missing anything? Also sometimes it can be rng due to big dialogue pools

lilac flicker
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dialogue pools?

viscid notch
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Well some characters have a lot to say lol

lilac flicker
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og

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oh

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also what happens when ur

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in a relatoinshop

viscid notch
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But check the wiki regardless, some favors might also require dialogue/affinity with other characters too

lilac flicker
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whats the skulls for in the ||pact of punishment||?

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ive gotten 2

cinder tartan
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its the tiers of it first 1 skull beat redacted then 2 skulls beat redacted

lilac flicker
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also whats the best sword build thats easy to build and also kinda good

lilac flicker
cinder tartan
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its just an difficulty indicator

lilac flicker
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oh

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thanks

cinder tartan
lilac flicker
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thanks

cinder tartan
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np

fiery pike
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whats the easiest pact of punishment thing

cinder tartan
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the time

fiery pike
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really?

cinder tartan
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yeah

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9 min is a lot

fiery pike
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my best time completion is 31 minutes

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and i was really lucky with upgrades

cinder tartan
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then i would say damage control if you are using fist or something really fast

fiery pike
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oh ok

kind remnant
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Middle management

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Time is easy because you get 9 minutes added after every zone

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So you get 36 minutes in total

buoyant jay
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And if you have time remaining you get extra time in the next zone

kind remnant
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It's a good one to practice because once you get good at making buildings it's basically free

polar finch
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youn dont die immediately either

kind remnant
lilac flicker
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CAN YOU CALL THANATOS?? shadeohboy

opaque spruce
lilac flicker
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meg weirds me out shadedisgruntled

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how do i get to ||erebus||?

odd shoal
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||the house contractor will sell a thing that unlocks them idk how you get it to sell that, then the gate will just show up in rooms like chaos||

lilac flicker
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what does it do?

odd shoal
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||the reward you get is stronger, a pom will give 2 levels, you get 200 gold instead of 100, higher boon rarity, etc. but if you get hit once you get nothing||

lilac flicker
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who do i fight?

odd shoal
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||just enemies lol||

lilac flicker
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will i ever get to fight ||charon||? or no

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like in the entire game

odd shoal
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||you do get to fight him at some point yes||

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||I think you get the opportunity after you get your first clear? Not too sure been a while||

lilac flicker
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thanks

lilac flicker
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im gay

buoyant jay
kind remnant
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She's a nice lady

lilac flicker
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from being enemies to

edgy storm
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How do you use titan blood?

lilac flicker
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yk

kind remnant
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Enemies with benefits

kind remnant
edgy storm
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i said how bruh

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like where do i go

kind remnant
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To the weapon

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And select it

edgy storm
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i cant do anyting

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i am at the wepons place

lilac flicker
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and the prophecy renovation

edgy storm
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ohhh yea i got it

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thx

kind remnant
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Correct

edgy storm
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I am getting destroyed by the hydra

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how do i beat it

kind remnant
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Practice

edgy storm
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actually i beat it with luck tho

kind remnant
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Learn attack patterns

edgy storm
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a ton of luck

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i did

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i beat it

kind remnant
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Avoid getting hit

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Gg

edgy storm
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but like i had devine dash and op stuff and insane luck

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i died at the blue area

kind remnant
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Give every god one nectar

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And they will give you their keepsake

edgy storm
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yes

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i have lots of keepsakes

kind remnant
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So if you have boons you really like, you can make sure they appear

edgy storm
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for start what do i use?

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yes

kind remnant
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Which ever god you want to be in your run

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You wanna force the god you want in room 1

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Which one depends on you and what build you wanna aim for

edgy storm
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if i dont get the right boon i die over and over til i get it right?

kind remnant
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You can force God 2 in the second world if you need to

edgy storm
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also

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i see speed runners melt bosses like nothing

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how do i do that

kind remnant
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You can, but RNG is part of the game, better to learn to adapt

edgy storm
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yea

kind remnant
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You will see the God again later

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Once they're in your pool

edgy storm
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k

kind remnant
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Always a chance to get it a second time

edgy storm
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yes

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is the gun a good wepon?

kind remnant
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They practice over and over

edgy storm
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what is a good wepon to get my first clear?

kind remnant
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All weapons are good, they are well balanced bit people have preferences

edgy storm
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hmmm k

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i am diying too much

kind remnant
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I think the bow is best

edgy storm
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on the blue fields

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oh

kind remnant
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But last time I said they I was told newer people struggle with the bow

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So best to just use them all and find your fav

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And practice that

edgy storm
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k

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but like im dying too much

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how do i prevent that

kind remnant
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Practice

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Here is my advice to git gud: play every weapon and find your favorite. Once you know your favorite, find some good builds or ask for build help. Then play over and over and when you die find out why and don't do that again. All enemies attack the same. Play them and pay attention to how they move, eventually you'll what to expect and can predict and dodge

lilac flicker
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i thought the bow was so good when i first got it but it was the reason i couldnt pass meg lmaoo

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but now i like it

kind remnant
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The bow felt very natural to me and got me many early clears

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I am very bad with fists

lilac flicker
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the fists and the sword are my fav so far

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just hated how i haveto stop my atk pattern so i can actually complete my special

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or else it wouldnt do it

kind remnant
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Those are the two I dislike the most 😂

uneven sun
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is there any side effect if I killed myself many times?

kind remnant
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Just your pride

uneven sun
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lmao, really?

gray haven
leaden whale
gray haven
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The Downside is from Pyre anyway. Different SGG game.

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No Downside in Hades.

wise lion
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If you have a choice, never take the door that has a skull next to it. Just don't. And always go after the Centaur's Heart if you can

chilly escarp
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Yeah those doors always have either elite enemies or a mini boss

wise lion
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And often, if it is a health boost, you end the fight with less health than when you start and the health boost does nothing

chilly escarp
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The only ones you cannot avoid are boss doors

gray haven
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Minibosses have a skull and a little arrow. And you're generally much better off doing minibosses for the high rarity boons you get.

polar finch
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yeah you dont want to be avoiding them. especially if you have good damage

gray haven
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They're also much more predictable encounters. Can take some learning at first, but you'll figure out the fights pretty quickly.

wise lion
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If you have good damage, yes, but if you are low on health, it isn't worth the risk

gray haven
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I don't agree.

viscid notch
polar finch
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a lot of the time theyre easier than normal encounters

wise lion
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Every time I've had the choice, the normal encounters are easier. The mini bosses just take all my health and I have to use Death Defiance. Maybe I'm just playing wrong

chilly escarp
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The main thing across the board is memorizing attack patterns right? Knowing when your openings are?

polar finch
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if you take them more often theyll get easier

wise lion
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That is a good point. Attack patterns are everything in basically every combat game ever

chilly escarp
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Yuhp

gray haven
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Part of not getting good damage would also come from skipping minibosses. And yeah, the first few times they can be hard, but it's worth the practice.

wise lion
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Gonna try to go for the mini bosses my next run.

leaden whale
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just take whatever path gives you better/more boons

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even if it means you get hit more

wise lion
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Definitely don't let your velcro dog be on your lap while trying to beat Meg though lol

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Can say you will spend more time trying to pet the puppy than getting any hits in

uneven sun
leaden whale
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still no downside but i would play normally cuz kys is boring

uneven sun
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yep I prefer that too

lilac flicker
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oh right

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i unlocked the rail gun then went for ||hades||

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so stressful

gray haven
lilac flicker
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a

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i forgor

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omg

leaden iron
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i have a feeling im missing out on something with the achilles aspect of the spear

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sometimes went i spam the attack button the damage go up with more hits

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but sometimes it stayed the same

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just curious what happened lol

viscid notch
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It’s the spear passive

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Throw your Special then press your Special button again, you’ll launch yourself towards it and get a buff that applies to your next 4 attacks/casts

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You should try to keep refreshing that buff

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There is a visual effect around Zagreus when that buff is up

plucky herald
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I bought hades and now I've played 50 hours in 4 days

gray haven
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Relatable.

icy bolt
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That was me on Christmas break

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I got 50 hours in less than a week

leaden iron
viscid notch
# leaden iron what build do you suggest with it?

Spears have some hammer reliance, Achilles’ strongest hammer is Flurry Jab by far because it’s a massive dps increase, for attack you can good damage with most of them but Artemis or Zeus are considered the best, if you happen to find Artemis try to force Ares in Asphodel and grab his Cast, that opens up Hunting Blades, Achilles’ buff applies to your Casts aswell so those will help you shred bosses
If you happen to go Zeus then force him in Asphodel and just try to get as much Zeus as possible, Static Discharge Zeus’ Aid Double strike etc, those are popular builds to go for but you can make a ton of things work

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Like Ice Wine / Crystal Clarity etc

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Starting keepsake is Poseidon for Tidal Dash or you can wing it with Coin Purse and build whatever the gods offer

viscid notch
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Just to be clear this is very brief and there is a lot more to the weapon and to builds you can do in general

leaden whale
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i love the upgrade that makes ur festive fog freeze and do more damage and deploy quickier

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it is g r e a t

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i beat ||hades||with it

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and shield

valid shoal
unique cosmos
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||talking to Hades rn, will I have to fight him before I get out||?

viscid notch
unique cosmos
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||i could literally walk to "heaven" rn if Hades wasn't standing there||

viscid notch
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Welp

unique cosmos
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i have 134hp with 1 life

viscid notch
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One way to find out bouldy

pseudo narwhal
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good luck!!

unique cosmos
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yeah I'll die right away

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thanks tho

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||can dodge for now tho||

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IM SO SCARED

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98 im dead

leaden whale
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@gray haven wish me luck my master fighting hades again with 2 deaths replies thx for the build it worked pretty ok with shield

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vermins aint a problem anymore=)

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bruh i died didnt know he sends a wave when he uses the death defience NOOOO

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any builds for shield zeus aspect?

grave storm
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Thunder flourish and as many other Zeus boons as you can get

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keep the shield spinning on enemies for as long as possible

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oh and support fire

leaden whale
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aight ty btw i heard its pretty easy to clear a run with zeus aspect and his boons is it true?

viscid notch
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Well there isn't an simple way to define easy

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Zeus aspect has a lot of damage potential and safety

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That's pretty much it

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Whether you can use that well is on you not the aspect anymore

leaden whale
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besides thunder flourish what do you recommend?

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i wanna clear my first run

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till now i only was able to kill first state of hades

viscid notch
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Why not thunder flourish?

leaden whale
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i mean besides thunder flourish

viscid notch
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Other supporting boons? Just get yourself a decent attack since you'll be using that quite a bit, applying weak or chill on enemies can help, a call for damage/safety and iframes is very good, and besides those just take any Zeus you can get

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Static Discharge / Double Strike / Zeus' Aid / Splitting Bolt etc

alpine ridge
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Get Aphro Attack and try and go for Smouldering Air

viscid notch
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Usually when a build has Zeus as a core boon for damage, you just almost always want more Zeus

leaden whale
alpine ridge
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Do you have a 4th god yet?

viscid notch
#

That's a good start

leaden whale
#

i only have 2 ;-;

#

rn i on the heat zone

#

i always forget the names ;-;

viscid notch
#

Just get used to the aspect mechanically, a lot of the time you can end up with your Shield spinning somewhere and doing nothing so work on controlling it well, the aspect itself doesnt need a lot to clear

#

Remember to put a few poms in your Flourish and bullrush to stay safe

leaden whale
viscid notch
#

I recommend you swap your Special from Q to Right Click, and no I wouldnt say you're safe that way, the best thing to do is bullrush his attacks and try to keep your Special on him

#

Also spoiler the name of the boss

alpine ridge
#

from your boons, you have 3 already, Thunder Flourish is Zeus, Poseidon Dash, and Demeter is the only god that chills

leaden whale
alpine ridge
#

For Zeus shield, the usual tactic is to throw out the special, recall it, then run away from it it so you can control where it goes

#

cos it'll follow you around so you can run it into people

leaden whale
#

aight welp i only have 20 attempts to escape so i shouldnt worry that much about clearing a run yet

unique cosmos
#

||BRO WTF HE HAD A 2ND PHASE I HATE HIM||

leaden whale
unique cosmos
#

how am I even meant to counter that I was so low already

alpine ridge
#

the trick is to not be low at that point

leaden whale
#

lol=)

leaden whale
viscid notch
#

Very

#

Give it a few poms aswell

leaden whale
alpine ridge
#

there's a mirror upgrade that makes it so they're more common

leaden whale
unique cosmos
alpine ridge
#

yes absolutely

#

one of the most important Mirror upgrades

viscid notch
#

lv3 jolted is a nice damage boost

#

Moreso if it has rarity

leaden whale
#

i have hope

#

TO CLEAR

#

=)))

viscid notch
#

gl

leaden whale
#

ty

#

when he rotates it?

#

@viscid notch

viscid notch
#

You should spoiler details about the final boss in this channel, his spin can hit you still if you're too close even if you're blocking because your block radius isnt a full 180 degrees

#

Instead, you should bullrush through the spin

leaden whale
#

aight ty

leaden whale
ivory ocean
#

@leaden whale please spoiler ||the name of the final boss||

leaden whale
#

NICEEEE I KILLED HIMMM

#

YEEEEEE

leaden whale
#

bro i am glad i bought ||shield aspect of zeus||

#

the ||true ending|| is going to be HELL

#

the ||true ending|| is going to be HELL

kind remnant
#

It's not bad

leaden whale
pure pilot
leaden whale
dry mantle
#

Theres is no escape lol

leaden whale
#

||lmfao when the queen comes back||

#

i am talking about that

dry mantle
#

but ya

leaden whale
#

and use this ||999||

dry mantle
#

||mom comes home after your 10th successful run ya||

kind remnant
gray haven
chilly escarp
#

So I know you need ||Asterius’s waking phrase for the fists.|| I’ve already gotten one dialogue where he mentions ||beating him with my bare hands.|| Do I just meet him again and he’ll tell me? Or is there more to it?

chilly escarp
kind remnant
leaden whale
chilly escarp
vestal wind
#

||meg is so hard||

#

I even had ||chaos|| with me

leaden whale
#

yo what build to use for fists?

leaden whale
vestal wind
leaden whale
#

you run and spam q

#

she is easy to dodge

vestal wind
#

Im using a controller and am using sword

polar finch
#

sword is one of the less beginner friendly weapons

vestal wind
#

it feels good to use for me

#

other weapons feel to slow

#

and the crossbow isnt that friendly for me

leaden whale
#

spam the q and dash a lot

#

learn her moves

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it will be very easy to dodge

vestal wind
leaden whale
leaden whale
#

use the power of the weapon

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you know what i mean

#

where you throw the spear

vestal wind
#

I havent gotten spear yet

vestal wind
leaden whale
#

its not a big spoiler ofc i am going to tell boss name

#

if i need help/i help someone

vestal wind
#

and I wasnt asking for help anyways

leaden whale
#

thats how you react to somoene willing to help you

#

welp you can continue dying to easiest boss in the game ;-;

vestal wind
#

yeah when they're being toxic

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and I dont want help

#

I want to play the game the way I want

leaden whale
#

lmfao i was giving you tips

#

anyways have fun trying to pass meg

polar finch
#

meg aint a spoiler

#

its just last boss and after

leaden whale
#

ye u see? lol

#

bro ||i am attempted to steal charons money||

#

BRO HE IS CRACKED

#

what is that damage

vestal wind
#

oh I just mentioned the last boss once and then got yelled at so I thought all bosses were spoilers

leaden whale
#

nah like first boss aint a spoiler

#

i understand why last one could be

polar finch
#

channel description

leaden whale
#

ye true

#

brooo i wanted so much that ||discount||

vestal wind
#

what does nectar do

leaden whale
#

you give to gods or people in the house

#

if you give to gods you get a keepsake

#

if u use it

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the first god you get will be

#

the one you gave nectar to like

#

lets say you gave nectar to zeus

#

you get his keepsake

#

you use it

#

and the next boon

#

its going to be from zeus

#

or

#

you cna give them

#

to get their ''hearts''

#

and later companions

vestal wind
#

How do I use the keepsake

#

I just gave one to nyx

leaden whale
#

she gives you a buff or something but u use it on the weapons room

#

left to the sword

vestal wind
#

What does the eagle thats in the corner every time I do something mean

gray haven
#

I think you mean the auto-save indicator.

leaden whale
#

your advices helped me

#

but tbh the bow seems good

#

but the q is pretty useless

gray haven
#

Good job. But remember to be kind. courte5AphroHeart courte5DusaBond

leaden whale
#

=))

gray haven
#

If Q is Special, then yeah.

leaden whale
#

ye it is pretty useless isnt it

#

and tbh was a bit hard to beat hydra

#

even tho i deal lot of damage with this aspect with the cast

#

i dont even know builds just testing them=)

#

but the poisedon cast with this aspect its pretty op

#

a lot of damage tbh

gray haven
leaden whale
#

oh aight ty

#

btw lemme show u somethng on dms

vestal wind
#

get rekt meg

gray haven
vestal wind
#

what happens if I die between bosses

#

do I have to kill meg again?

leaden whale
#

do you have death defiances?

vestal wind
#

Yeah

#

but I used my one during the meg fight and couldnt buy one

gray haven
#

Yes, new runs always start in Tartarus.

vestal wind
#

ah

#

but do I have to kill meg again

gray haven
#

Yep.

vestal wind
#

does lucky tooth do the same thing as death defiances but without using one?

gray haven
#

It's used up after your normal DDs, but yeah pretty much.

#

Just instead of 50% of your max HP, it always heals a fixed amount.

vestal wind
#

whats the max amount of DDs

gray haven
#

The mirror gives you a max of 3.

vestal wind
#

theres another upgrade point?

kind remnant
#

I'm seeing Deja vu with you two talking

vestal wind
#

lol

leaden whale
gray haven
#

Well, Master Chaos's legendary boon is a Defiance, and you can get that multiple times in a run.

vestal wind
#

ah

gray haven
#

Pretty rare to get, though.

vestal wind
#

Ive done chaos once but havent done it since because I havent seen a risk reward type thing with me only using melee and dash

polar finch
#

attack and dash strike damage is pretty good for the sword

errant bridge
#

i have a question. how do i unlock hidden aspects?

polar finch
errant bridge
#

thanks you

gray haven
#

HP, rarity, and money are also great from Master Chaos.

vestal wind
#

what does the rock guy do

gray haven
#

And even Special damage is still alright for sword.

#

Offers you free healing, money, or Darkness.

vestal wind
#

right that

#

ok

gray haven
#

I'd suggest taking the Darkness if you're not very low on HP. Will help you upgrade your mirror faster.

edgy storm
#

Dodging makes you hit faster if u time it right

#

is it a glitch?

#

ever since i fould that out i just started melting everything

gray haven
#

I think you're just talking about Dash-Strikes.

edgy storm
#

yes that

#

it makes all the other weapons completely obsolete

polar finch
#

yeah not really

#

but you should be dash striking

edgy storm
#

the dps is completly diffrent

#

with swords compared to the bow

#

swords have a crazy burst dps

polar finch
#

also i thought you said you only dash striked with the sword when i asked you

edgy storm
#

yes i dp

polar finch
#

also you can dash strike with the bow

edgy storm
#

its much less dps tho

gray haven
#

The bow smokes the sword in DPS and burst damage. dusa

polar finch
#

its less damage per hit. not less damage per second

edgy storm
#

fr?

polar finch
#

sounded like you found out about dash striking just now lol

edgy storm
#

i tried the bow and it was not good compared to the sword

polar finch
#

grab a hammer

gray haven
#

Well, it'll take practice and experience and knowing strong builds etc. to make the most of all the weapons.

edgy storm
#

sword wrecks everything

#

or im just bad idk

kind remnant
#

Bow is poggers

gray haven
#

You're not bad, you're new.

edgy storm
#

its hot trash when i used it

#

i have been playing for like 20 hours straight

gray haven
#

I have 1.2k or something hours in the game. dusa

edgy storm
#

I had so much trouble with the gun and bow, when i used the sword I destroyed everything

#

how tf can you dash strike with the bow and gun bruh explain

kind remnant
#

Do or do not, there is no try dusa

polar finch
#

it makes bow charge faster and rail shoot faster?

kind remnant
#

Practice on skelly

gray haven
#

You just hold Attack after a Dash on the bow. It'll charge faster than a normal Attack.

#

Twin Shot and Triple Shot are gonna be best for damage.

#

Your damage is also gonna be a lot better once you can do Power Shots consistently.

#

On sword, your best DPS rotation most of the time is gonna be Special > Dash-Strike x2 > repeat.

polar finch
#

a big difference is that sword has 1 great hammer bouldy

#

meanwhile bow has a lot more. hammers add a lot to dps

gray haven
#

Best hammer will be Double Edge. Other good hammers are Piercing Wave and Breaching Slash. Double Nova and Super Nova are copium.

#

Shadow Slash, Cruel Thrust, and Cursed Slash all don't affect Dash-Strikes.

#

Flurry Slash will prevent you from doing an empty dash after any normal Attack (you'll get a Dash-Strike instead) and you can no longer do a Dash-Strike without getting a normal Attack right after the Dash.

#

That's why experienced players avoid it.

edgy storm
#

what is the best bow upgrade?

gray haven
#

Aspects you mean?

edgy storm
#

yes

#

asepcts

gray haven
#

Hera for DPS.

kind remnant
#

Hidden for most fun dusa

gray haven
#

Hera holds the speedrun WR. Sounds right up your alley if you want DPS.

edgy storm
#

k

polar finch
gray haven
#

All the top Hera players remap their Cast button on controller to usually a shoulder button btw. Highly recommended.

#

Will let you load Casts much more freely.

polar finch
#

good for ||beo|| too

gray haven
#

At least when enemies aren't spread out etc.

polar finch
#

nemesis top skelly% aspect bouldy

gray haven
#

Spoiler btw.

polar finch
#

just ignore the funny symbols bouldy

gray haven
#

I mean aspect.

polar finch
#

oh that

edgy storm
#

why did they make ares and athena black tho

#

kinda messed up

grave storm
#

Why can't they be black

#

you know what's messed up? People who draw modern AU and make Charon and Hades white

faint umbra
kind remnant
#

That was a good read

leaden whale
#

bruh so many runs still cant see meg to offer the last gift and do her things to get companion

edgy storm
#

What is good dps build with hera bow??

#

what boons to go for?

edgy storm
#

thanks

leaden whale
# faint umbra heres a whole article about that <https://kotaku.com/black-athena-how-hades-gets...

If anyone's still wondering but wouldn't mind a tl;dr instead, there:

“We knew going into Hades that we wanted this to be the story of a big dysfunctional family set in the Underworld of Greek myth, told from the Underworld’s point of view,” he wrote in an email. “As we discussed and researched the Olympians from canon sources, something stood out that in retrospect was obvious: They’re called the Greek gods because they were worshiped in ancient Greece, not because they themselves are ethnically Greek.” In other words, they didn’t all have to be Greek, or even white-passing for that matter.

edgy storm
#

what are poms?

edgy storm
#

ohh thx

#

how do you get 5 casts

#

i have 3

viscid notch
#

Wells of Charon / Chaos

polar finch
#

fully loaded though it doesnt exist

edgy storm
#

okie

#

thx

viscid notch
#

yea that too

edgy storm
#

to get crush shot should I put on my aphoridite keepsake?

viscid notch
#

Yes

edgy storm
#

K

#

thx

#

How do you get the mirage shot duo boon

#

I dont fully understand it

#

how do u get a duo boon in the first place

#

i dont think I have gotten one before

leaden whale
#

do u have the codex upgrade that lists boons

#

u get 1 core boon from each god, and then either god has a chance of offer the duo

#

the codex shows the list of boons which count towards “opening” the duo/legendary to be pickable

edgy storm
#

oh okie

#

I dont think I have ever gotten dermiter to show up

leaden whale
#

she starts appearing after 1 win

edgy storm
#

bruh

polar finch
#

not a win

viscid notch
#

You dont have to win

polar finch
#

just fighting last boss

viscid notch
#

You just need to reach the surface

#

ye

edgy storm
#

bruh

#

then i cant do the hera bow build

grave storm
#

Crush shot damage is plenty

polar finch
#

not like you need every single boon

#

yep

edgy storm
#

I have crush shot on this run im doing rn

kind remnant
#

You will almost never get every boon in a build suggestion

edgy storm
#

im still loosing a lot of health

kind remnant
#

That's the nature of RNG

edgy storm
#

bruh

leaden whale
#

cuz with ||fated persuasion|| theres a pretty good chance to get all of them

#

or at least all the important ones

kind remnant
#

Important ones yes

#

I'm just saying

edgy storm
#

what is fated persusaision

leaden whale
#

people only list the important ones in a build suggestion

edgy storm
#

i need it

kind remnant
#

Not getting 1 boon (unless it's a core boon) is bound to happen

leaden whale
edgy storm
#

ohh

#

bruh need like 50 kyes

polar finch
#

you dont need to worry about a maxed mirror for a first clear

edgy storm
#

k

leaden whale
edgy storm
#

yea im trying to get my death defiance up

kind remnant
edgy storm
#

Should I switch my keepsake to artimes for deadly strike?

#

Im about to go into the fire area

#

Im trying to get the Mirage shot duo boon

gray haven
#

Where are you now in the run? What's your current build?

#

Deadly Strike is generally pretty good on Hera, even just for Heart Rend, anyway.

edgy storm
#

I have crush shot plus + deadly strike

#

looking for tidal dash for the Mirage shot duo boon

gray haven
#

Nice. If you see Tempest Flourish, that's fine, too.

edgy storm
#

yep

edgy storm
#

I just used both my death defiances to those archers that come back to life

#

its like they have aimbot

#

how do i fight them

buoyant jay
#

Kill them before they respawn when they turn into the eyeball

edgy storm
#

bruh ik that

buoyant jay
#

Oh sorry

edgy storm
#

I mean like they have litral aimbot

buoyant jay
#

Try to hit them from the back I guess?

edgy storm
#

i legit cant, they lazer me and have aimbot

#

but yea ill try

buoyant jay
#

I guess it depends on your weapon

edgy storm
#

im archer

buoyant jay
#

Oh

#

You should be fine doing that then I guess

edgy storm
#

k

buoyant jay
#

Just try to dodge them

#

They’re often in groups so try to watch out for others while you’re killing one off

gray haven
#

Circle them with dashes or get behind obstacles.

uneven sun
#

Get behind obstacles always works

polar finch
#

unarmored ones you can time your dashes or stun them so they dont shoot. ones with armor either have enough damage to strip it or have some cover or extra dashes since theyll shoot three arrows in a row

uneven sun
#

Asking, will I get a keepsake if I give bouldy a nectar?

polar finch
#

nope

uneven sun
#

okay thanks, it's literally a rock tho

edgy storm
#

Reached the bull and gladiator fight for the 6th time and died again

#

bruh

#

i had the perfect boons for my hera bow too

uneven sun
#

yep it's hard in the beginning but you'll get used to them quickly

edgy storm
#

yea i was so close too

buoyant jay
#

Many people find them harder than the final boss

grave storm
lilac flicker
#

should i get the achilles aspect for my spear?

grave storm
#

Yes

lilac flicker
#

is it the best?

edgy storm
#

to get the duo boon, do u have to visit one of the 2 god sharing it?

#

or any god

lilac flicker
#

what

edgy storm
#

wdym

#

for the duo boon

lilac flicker
#

im asking you

edgy storm
#

do u have to go to the 2 gods sharing it?

lilac flicker
#

ofc

edgy storm
#

both of them??

lilac flicker
#

eait

#

wait

edgy storm
#

or just one

#

ok

leaden whale
#

yes each side has a requirement

lilac flicker
#

you dont need to get the duo boon from both

#

but it needs a certain require from 2 gods

edgy storm
#

only one god gives it?

#

yes ik that

lilac flicker
#

both of em can i think?

edgy storm
#

I have deadly strike and tital dash

#

I want to get the Mirage shot duo boon

leaden whale
#

after its conditions are satisfied either one of them can give it ye

#

except in a trial room, u cant get duos from there

edgy storm
#

ok

opaque spruce
# edgy storm im archer

ik this sounds super stupid but if you really want a first clear my first clear is a brain dead grab zeus boon wih fists and grab some anthena dash grab some extra dashes and just do as much damage as possible

edgy storm
#

but archer is what pros use

#

i wanna be a pro

#

im using archer

#

ima keep trying archer

opaque spruce
#

focus on getting that first clear id say

#

ur using hera bow right

edgy storm
#

ima get my first clear with archer, i dont give up 😤

#

yes i am

opaque spruce
edgy storm
#

hmm

#

idk what dianysis cast is

#

Im using hera bow and i have crush shot and tidal dash

#

is that good for a first clear?

opaque spruce
edgy storm
#

yea ik what it is actually

opaque spruce
edgy storm
#

whats beowolf

opaque spruce
#

hidden aspect of the sheild

edgy storm
#

ohhh

#

i dont have max hera bow

#

how do u get titan blood

#

i have it to level 2

opaque spruce
#

big chonky dragon is what beowolf is

edgy storm
#

i need level 5 to get it max i think

opaque spruce
edgy storm
#

nivr

opaque spruce
edgy storm
#

WTF

#

HOW DO U GET 15 WTF

opaque spruce
#

styx shop

edgy storm
#

idk what that is

opaque spruce
#

the quest things in ur room i forgot the name

edgy storm
#

ohhhhhhh

#

u mean the fates list?

#

or someting

#

its like a list

opaque spruce
edgy storm
#

k

opaque spruce
# edgy storm k

try to play more passive maybe it wont be fast but its easier that way like get a couple shots off them play behind things

lilac flicker
#

whats the best keepsake

#

for a spear run

edgy storm
#

yea

opaque spruce
gray haven
edgy storm
#

oh

#

then what is the best wepon then???

gray haven
#

Best for what purpose?

edgy storm
#

melting bosses

gray haven
#

Hera is definitely great for a first clear if that's the goal.

lilac flicker
#

whats that?

opaque spruce
#

my personal favs are eris rail, hera bow, achilles spear, and beowold are good in general

gray haven
#

Hidden shield, Zeus, and Hestia probably the best at clearing boss fights easily.

edgy storm
#

oh

gray haven
#

Spoiler-tag hidden aspects, though. courte5AphroHeart courte5DusaBond

gray haven
edgy storm
#

so hera bow is bad?

gray haven
#

No, it's far from bad.

opaque spruce
edgy storm
#

bruh

opaque spruce
#

best bow imo

edgy storm
#

then why is it not good for dps

gray haven
#

You asked about boss fights specifically.

lilac flicker
edgy storm
#

bruh

gray haven
#

Never said it's not good for DPS.

edgy storm
#

not like you can switch wepons

lilac flicker
#

oh

#

right

#

the q increases

#

cast and atk damage

edgy storm
#

then what do u do in a boss fight if u had hera bow bruh

opaque spruce
#

+150 perccent

polar finch
#

you shoot the boss thanthink

edgy storm
#

oh

#

damn

polar finch
#

possibly doing funny wall glitch stuff

edgy storm
#

reported

#

to epic games

#

ur Hades acc its banned

#

bye

lilac flicker
#

whats a good easy build for achilles spear?

#

any tips aha

gray haven
#

Reported? courte5Wut

opaque spruce
edgy storm
#

i reported UnAnasns to epic games

lilac flicker
#

what is that

polar finch
gray haven
#

You'll want Quick Reload ideally on Hera for bosses.

#

From Lord Hermes.

#

That'll help a lot.

polar finch
#

speedrunning oriented but pretty useful

edgy storm
#

Well i dont even have maxed out Hera bow

opaque spruce
#

its ok

edgy storm
#

i have level 2

opaque spruce
#

its helpful to have max

edgy storm
#

how tf do u get 15 titan blood tho

#

hell naw

polar finch
#

beating the game

gray haven
#

Naturally. It's gonna be a lot better at Lv.5, but it's still very good at Lv.1.

opaque spruce
#

pact of punishment

edgy storm
#

k

#

guys

gray haven
#

m not a guy. dusa

edgy storm
#

look at my profile, im at the boss

#

wish me luck

polar finch
#

like you shouldnt be expecting to melt bosses with little progression and experience

gray haven
#

Good luck or bad luck?

edgy storm
#

bruh

opaque spruce
#

big laser beam big damage

gray haven
opaque spruce
gray haven
#

And so is ||Lady Demeter||. dusa

opaque spruce
gray haven
#

Yes.

#

||Can't find her until you've been to the final boss at least once||, that's why.

gray haven
#

Most don't until somebody points it out lol don't worry.

edgy storm
#

MSUEFHSEOF I KILLLED THEM

#

LETS OGOO

opaque spruce
opaque spruce
edgy storm
#

what

opaque spruce
#

||styx shoop||

edgy storm
#

no

#

not yet

opaque spruce
edgy storm
#

yes

gray haven
#

Theseus and Asterius.

edgy storm
#

im at the temple of the styx

#

is that it?

opaque spruce