or Ares call
#h1-for-new-players
misty fractal
peak yew
Nothing to lose I dove in like a UPS delivery guy finishing his shift after drinking a bottle of laxative
I haven't tried Dionysus yet, that just applies hangover? Or does it do actual dmg too
grave storm
Applies thic hangover
languid dune
Yeah I play on console sadly
It’s ok though, now I know I can beat the champions of elysium and I will try again tomorrow
Hopefully I get another treat to give to Thanatos and Meg
gray haven
Out of the gate, Dionysus' Aid is the best Call for DPS. Zeus' Aid can beat it with Double Strike etc.
humble herald
Out of the gate, Dionysus' Aid is the best Call for DPS. Zeus' Aid can beat it w...
Do you know offhand what would do more DPS between Zeus / DStrike / Splitting and Dio /Curse of Nausea /Splitting Headache
leaden whale
Zues i think, and on top of that he has a lot of call boosts like smoltering air and billowing strength
humble herald
I should have included billowing for purposes of the comparison yes
peak yew
Out of the gate, Dionysus' Aid is the best Call for DPS. Zeus' Aid can beat it w...
Ahh ok rad
I do like getting hangover on my main attack so I can stack it, I’ll try out the call next time
The combo I ended up running on sword was attack with weakness, weakened takes more dmg, dash crit and attack crit high, with the sword that also amplifies crit after special
And weakened lasted 9sec so I could apply it dodge and dive
restive portal
Call stacks hangover too, and the hangover damage is much higher for calf than for attack (not all hangovers are the same)
leaden whale
ive died ||twice to hades on final form|| 😦
i even had explosive spear
and also the one that lets u charge ur spear
and rapid fire
also yes i did get 3 hammers in one run
i just had no lives
cuz of the heros
:(((((
vocal obsidian
Theseus breaks my heart definitely.
crude palm
I got hades yesterday and boy its already my favorite game
viscid notch
Nice
spring monolith
I got hades yesterday and boy its already my favorite game
My same feeling I just played it today and it's amazingg
crude palm
Agreed
sour oxide
spring monolith
crude palm
I absolutely hate doomstones tho
spring monolith
crude palm
Nice a hammer
minor oriole
Can finally beat Theseus reliably...
||but Hades still gets me||
burnt plinth
hello everyone! is there any info about coming hades for ios?
severe flicker
Thank you guys for this game @leaden whalemins
@creator
@guyswhomadehades
Is this active?
@everyone
You want high damage…try crush shot/max Poseidon sword special+exit wounds
alpine ridge
yo, don't try to @ everyone in a server, that's very rude
languid dune
Thank you guys for this game <@456226577798135808>mins
You just pinged a random person
viscid notch
gray haven
lol
icy bolt
Can finally beat Theseus reliably...
||but Hades still gets me||
You'll get there man
The game has a learning curve
If you haven't gotten full mirror upgrades yet, it will get easier when you do
minor oriole
||I DID IT LESGOOO!!!||
drifting cedar
Congrats!!
drifting cedar
I guess, yes. Stay in as long as you want though, everyone has their own pace
robust lark
Congratulations ❤️
minor oriole
So I got Fated Authority. How often can I use it, once per chamber?
viscid notch
So I got Fated Authority. How often can I use it, once per chamber?
You can use it as many times as you want as long as you have rolls
There are some rooms you cant reroll tho
Like story rooms, stairs etc
minor oriole
So I can use it in any room for as many times as I have (1) per room, bar story/stairs, etc?
viscid notch
Yea basically
If you have 3 rolls you can roll a door 3 times before entering
You can also use Persuasion which allows you to reroll boons instead
Alongside Wells and Purging wells and poms
This is more recommended because it makes it easier to target certain boons from gods
So your builds are overall more consistent with it
minor oriole
Already spent one and I can't use it again on other chambers :/
Welp, time to accrue more darkness
restive portal
However the cost of rolling boons goes up if you reroll the same boon.
You can buy a contractor perk so key chambers (not keys bought from Charon) refresh one roll.
Applies to both room rolls and boon rolls
tawdry vapor
I always wondered, what the hammer thing that Charon sells in Styx does?
restive portal
It's just a hammer
viscid notch
I always wondered, what the hammer thing that Charon sells in Styx does?
It randomly removes 1 of the hammers you currently have and gives you 2 random ones
So you could end up with 3 hammers but its rng fest
restive portal
Oh that one
tawdry vapor
It randomly removes 1 of the hammers you currently have and gives you 2 random o...
Oh no too much rng
restive portal
Yeah, hammer roulette
tawdry vapor
I wanted to make a zag bow Artemis build, but the game decided to give me only a few Artemis lol
viscid notch
If your hammers are bad anyway you could gamble on it but yea otherwise wouldnt recommend
restive portal
Can be glorious or it could give you cursed slash just before going to final boss... I'm not bitter, oh no
tawdry vapor
Well my hammers are flurry shoot and triple shoot
restive portal
Keep that
tawdry vapor
I like flurry shot, is like playing with rail xD
pure pilot
Oh no too much rng
It saved me some runs, when I got 2 bad hammers before, though
tawdry vapor
Stupid question again, why Artemis dash is recommended for bow? The bow does a dash attack?
viscid notch
All weapons have a dash attack
But on Bow specifically you should only dash attack, standing attacks are too slow to charge up
It's the way of the weapon
tawdry vapor
Damn I missed how to dash attack with bow, I stand to pew pew
Well easy enough with flurry shoot because are instant shoots
viscid notch
With flurry it can become harder to dash strike
tawdry vapor
Need to practice it then, because yeah I probably missed how
viscid notch
Well on flurry it's also not as bad to do standing attacks due to the instant shots
But I wouldnt default to that, try to dash strike still, and remember to let go of the attack button
tawdry vapor
What would you recommend for zag bow? Is still a bit low but I wanted to build it while getting heat, I suppose Artemis attack and Aphrodite special, Artemis dash and.. also Artemis cast?
valid shoal
But on Bow specifically you should only dash attack, standing attacks are too sl...
But it’s the same attack, just releases when you dash?
buoyant jay
I’m using shield for the first time
viscid notch
yes you can
buoyant jay
Should I take artemis’ call? Or save the slot
pure pilot
What would you recommend for zag bow? Is still a bit low but I wanted to build i...
Personally I like Ares special to clear masses of enemies
valid shoal
Weird. I’ll test it out on skelly when I can
tawdry vapor
So dash strike is (dash) - hold attack - release?
viscid notch
Yes
tawdry vapor
Dash attack just makes the attack load faster then, I get it
tawdry vapor
Personally I like Ares special to clear masses of enemies
Where would you put ares? In special?
viscid notch
What would you recommend for zag bow? Is still a bit low but I wanted to build i...
For Zag bow your main source of damage is your attack, the best in slot attacks for it are Artemis or Aphrodite (not common), you can try to go for Heartrend or Smoldering Air afterwards
Keep a lodgable cast for Boiling Blood, your boonless one works just fine so you dont have to get one there
Artemis on the dash is ideal for more damage
pure pilot
Where would you put ares? In special?
Yes. When I focus attack for main damage, I put Ares for special, to spread some DoTs on enemies between attacks
viscid notch
Divine Dash is good for survivability
It's not recommended that you use your Special at all
tawdry vapor
I just love too much DD, I had to pick it when Athena's came first than Artemis x.x
viscid notch
The damage is too low and that spread is too wide, if you have to destroy projectiles your boonless special works just fine
valid shoal
The damage is too low and that spread is too wide, if you have to destroy projec...
Does dire on aeres special on Chiron stack for each arrow?
viscid notch
Yes, it would add damage to your Doom with each arrow
valid shoal
Sounds fun
viscid notch
It can be fun yea, the damage is a bit underwhelming compared to other builds tho
Other Chiron builds
pure pilot
Whats the best use for Poseidon boons? For me it feels that his attack and special are one of the weakest
grave storm
Tidal dash
viscid notch
The Attack is just straight up bad, it's only used for meme builds, the Special is good on Chiron if you aim for a Sea Storm build, and niche on a few other things, never usually the best option but Poseidon Special has a big % and decent scaling and opens up Shoals and other stuff which makes it a good cope pick, Poseidon's Dash however is one of the strongest in the game, it shreds through enemies and has a lot of damage and good scaling, combined with some other stuff like Shoals and Breaking Wave you would melt enemies just by dashing through them
Poseidon's Flare on Hidden Shield is pretty much meta for speedrunning and solid for other stuff aswell, due to easy access to Mirage which is bugged for that specific shield, so there's that
The call is just good overall, good damage and invincibility, usually you want Rip current with it but yea
rustic basin
I feel like I always need divine dash as part of my build
tawdry vapor
Is amazing how easy to kill redacted is after you beat him once, well all his attacks are very telegraphed, just beat it without losing a DD
cinder tartan
most useless weopon for poseidon special would be fist of teros i think the pulling one
rich osprey
it's kinda funny tho
dusty vault
You can also use poseidon cast + breaking wave to help with AoE
viscid notch
I feel like I always need divine dash as part of my build
That's kinda common with newer people because the dash is so strong so it's somewhat intuitive to keep forcing it, if you want to not rely on it as much then dont pick it lol, it'll take practice for sure
tawdry vapor
If you deflect redacted boiling blood (bless divine dash) he gets the poison part of it?
viscid notch
no
rustic basin
@viscid notch what would you consider top tier replacements, I know you said Poseidon’s dash as one
rich osprey
If you deflect redacted boiling blood (bless divine dash) he gets the poison par...
he just gets hit by it and it lands on the ground, he doesn't get mega boiled blood or anything
tawdry vapor
Tildal dash is fine when Im building around knockups and rupture I guess, strong when combined with sea storm
pure pilot
Spamming Ares Dash (With the Hermes boon, which gives you more dashes) is also fun
tawdry vapor
What weapons give best use of ares chaos? I remember there is a boon that allows you to continually cast it
viscid notch
<@542795151135997953> what would you consider top tier replacements, I know you ...
Poseidon dash is good but it's not for every single weapon, something like Zag bow Tidal dash wouldnt do very well for example, for something like bow you can do Arty dash, Ares dash is good because it doesnt knockback enemies and can be decent damage too, if nothing works particularly well with what you're running then just dont grab a dash or take one that passively does something from a god that doesnt help you much anymore like passion dash to apply weak (which is actively more survivability etc)
viscid notch
What weapons give best use of ares chaos? I remember there is a boon that allows...
Ares Chaos?
rich osprey
Ares Chaos?
probably ares cast
tawdry vapor
Yeah? No? Ah I mean ares doom sorry
rich osprey
ah
tawdry vapor
You hit something and after a sec or so it gets more damage
viscid notch
As a general rule of thumb flat damage is good on rapid hitting things, Doom in particular for example is very good on Fists attack, big slower chunks like % based boosts better than flat damage
pure pilot
Fist + Zeus attack + Artemis arrows (which spawn and auto aim for every attack)
viscid notch
Yea fists with Zeus attack are also very solid
Ares can offer you other stuff aswell tho
Like Battle rage
which is very good on some weapons
Like Hestia, Zag bow etc
rich osprey
you can also try to help it with dire misfortune and whatever the impending doom one is called, cause then with fists for example you can get a lot of free damage from the doom by just hitting the target more, but as a rule of thumb doom will fall off quick if you don't get poms but there's a lot of rng to get all of those to line up sometimes
viscid notch
Ares can offer you other stuff aswell tho
And also cast builds using Hunting Blades, especially strong on Achilles spear but you can pick it up on Eris and do very well
buoyant jay
Explosive return or dread flight?
viscid notch
what weapon
buoyant jay
Shield
viscid notch
Well ofc it's a shield hammer, what aspect I meant
buoyant jay
Oh. Basic
buoyant jay
Ok good
Forgot but it was something relating to attacking twice but not knocking away foes
viscid notch
That's the one to take
buoyant jay
Damn I already took explosive return
viscid notch
That's okay just good to know for later
buoyant jay
At least I know now
viscid notch
Shield uses the standing attack often
very often
Losing the knockback isnt a huge deal, and more damage is just good
drifting cedar
Good job
minor oriole
That will probably be me with the sword or fists, or both
Patience is the best weapon in the end
buoyant jay
I’m not very good at the final boss fight. I’m not even sure how I managed to beat him in the first place
I wish there was an in game way to practice the final boss battle, like a god of illusions let’s you play one of the battles but if you beat them it doesn’t count
Minotaur rush, ferocious guard, or dread flight? It’s just the base shield
viscid notch
Ferocious
Minotaur is very niche and rarely does anything unless you're actively trying to use it which is somewhat slow, Dread Flight just doesnt matter because you dont focus on base shield special to begin with
buoyant jay
Tips for dodging ||hades’|| attacks please?
I’m not good enough to beat him a second time even though I keep getting there
leaden whale
which attacks
buoyant jay
When ||he slashes and causes a huge green circle||
leaden whale
my strat is, if i see him about to attack i dash like crazy and hope it doesnt
||green circles are from the skulls, they have a timer on their heads, if they are still alive when it expires it makes a circle||
u have to dash thru them
buoyant jay
Ohhhhh
valid shoal
When ||he slashes and causes a huge green circle||
Time your dash, ideally to leave the area of danger but if it hits while you are dashing you won’t get hit. This attack is the biggest reason I get extra dashes from Hermes.
Oh yeah for the shockwaves kill the skulls and if you can’t watch their timer
buoyant jay
I got 4 titans blood, what should I use it on?
leaden whale
whats ur favorite aspect
buoyant jay
I haven’t really used many of them. I only used chiron lvl 1 so far
I don’t even have them all yet
leaden whale
use it to unlock an aspect that not too blood dependant
viscid notch
I haven’t really used many of them. I only used chiron lvl 1 so far
Just keep in mind that Chiron Chaos and Hestia are underwhelming at low level, so I wouldnt invest in those unless you plan on going to lv4-5 atleast, otherwise just go for whatever sounds fun
leaden whale
when the last aspect open?
check pin in story discussion
digital token
ah ok thx
leaden whale
At least 5 then it opens up the potential for it
buoyant jay
Just keep in mind that Chiron Chaos and Hestia are underwhelming at low level, s...
Would Zeus shield be a good one? Oh, but it takes 3 to open up right?
viscid notch
It's quite good yea
viscid notch
If you like it you can go for higher level because the scaling on the disc base damage is very good aswell so you're just making it even stronger
Or you can just try different stuff that also dont require high levels
minor oriole
Is it important to ||gain access to the administrative chamber||?
buoyant summit
what's the difference between a boon's rarity and a boon's level
leaden whale
not much different, rarity is basically just a way to increase its level without worsening its diminishing returns on pom scaling
buoyant summit
oh?
leaden whale
yea sometimes going up 1 level and 1 rarity do the exact same thing
vivid geyser
hades 🤝 celeste
be masterpieces
leaden whale
its very important for certain boons tho like hermes greater reflex
leaden whale
rarity does matter a lot in this game tho sometimes its good to simp for whichever is the highest lol
leaden whale
hades 🤝 celeste
be masterpieces
play hollow knight its also amazing 
peak yew
Simp for my boy Poseidon
vivid geyser
play hollow knight its also amazing <:dusa:522248771409543188>
I have tried but I get stuck, but still after bastion I resume it 
digital token
play hollow knight its also amazing <:dusa:522248771409543188>
i am playing it rn and its really awesome
also i like curse of the dead gods
vivid geyser
i am playing it rn and its really awesome
where did you stay?
digital token
i am at greenpath and i beat the hornet recently
vivid geyser
ooooh, that fight is amazing
digital token
yeah hornet is an awesome character
leaden whale
cotdg and hades are a great pair
digital token
absolutely
robust lark
Is it important to ||gain access to the administrative chamber||?
Depends on "important". But no.
valid shoal
Is it important to ||gain access to the administrative chamber||?
It’s cool information and at some point is required for some stuff but it’s not going to help your escape attempts much. I think it’s worth buying
minor oriole
Gotcha
Also...Colossus Knuckle, Heavy Knuckle or Explosive Upper? No aspect
leaden whale
whats ur build so far
minor oriole
Lightning Strike and Hunter Dash
leaden whale
collossus
minor oriole
Good, thanks
gray haven
Explosive Upper, always.
buoyant jay
Time to die to the final boss again
leaden whale
Time to die to the final boss again
just like me
dapper bone
I unlocked something at the contractor that lets me look at gods boons and stuff, where do I look at this?
buoyant jay
just like me
Just did. All runs I’ve done I’ve gotten to the last area and just died.
Today*
drifting cedar
I unlocked something at the contractor that lets me look at gods boons and stuff...
Codex button and then go to the God page
dapper bone
Ty
drifting cedar
Youll see [button] to open boon list
white finch
When do you unlock the very last tier upgrade for the weapons?
buoyant jay
Is there a video with tips on the final fight? I’m still not very good at it and can’t win a second time
viscid notch
When do you unlock the very last tier upgrade for the weapons?
Check pins in #h1-story-discussion, spoilers ahead
white finch
Thank you~
buoyant jay
Alright so what’s a good build for the Zeus shield
polar finch
Alright so what’s a good build for the Zeus shield
zeus, a bit more zeus, some more zeus
and aphro on attack cuz smouldering air and weak are cool
minor oriole
There's a duo boon that locked the call bar to 25% but fills it very quickly, is it actually usable?
polar finch
its one of the best duos
minor oriole
Oho?
polar finch
just dont use it with artemis or ares call
limber palm
Depending on the call
Some are onlu good at full charge, which becomes impossible with this Duo
Like Art and Aphro
minor oriole
😅 Kinda sorta used it with Artemis in a run
limber palm
But for spammable ones like Zeus and Poseidon it's amazing
polar finch
aphros minor call is pretty good
uneven sun
I think I like aphro with it
limber palm
uneven sun
I can cancel last boss's laser quickly with it
minor oriole
I can see the use for that though
polar finch
it interrupts them which is the important part
if you mistime a dash its basically a get out of jail free card
limber palm
The laser is extremely exploitable
You want him to do it
polar finch
then you have a couple seconds of free damage
polar finch
better to use it on the spin or thrust
limber palm
The laser has a blind spot right up close to the boss
past pike
omg
buoyant jay
I love scintillating feast
past pike
What happened
Ñ. uwu
worn solstice
🤨
languid dune
I just bought the ability to switch keepsakes in each realm, so does that mean I can switch it anytime I choose?
Like after each clear of a chamber
worn solstice
So after you beat a boss you'll be able to switch
grave storm
After each boss
viscid notch
After you clear a biome
languid dune
Ah ok
Man I was doing well against champions I just forgot to equip the lucky tooth so I died when Theseus was at low health
Also any tips with dealing with the regenerating guys in elysium, they take the most time to kill
buoyant jay
I really wish poison wasn’t in this game
uneven sun
the guy with poison shooting in 4th floor always got me lol
buoyant jay
Exactly they just keep throwing up even if I’m able to heal it’s still annoying
And my losing streak against the final boss continues 😑
I feel like if I was better at the final boss I would win consistently
restive portal
Also any tips with dealing with the regenerating guys in elysium, they take the ...
Pick a hammer that does damage against armour and maybe buy a temporary buff from the shop after Lernie. Look for well shops during Elysium to refresh buffs. Elysium is really a skill test to make sure you've put together a build that can output a lot of damage quickly.
buoyant jay
It’s been 20 tries since my first win
restive portal
I feel like if I was better at the final boss I would win consistently
If you don't have a timer going, just practice dodging and dashing through the attacks. Don't try to do damage, just try not to take any.
Learn the attacks and patterns.
You could always save scum just before final boss by quiting out and copying the save file once you've opened the final door. Restore the save a few times to practice.
buoyant jay
You could always save scum just before final boss by quiting out and copying the...
I assume that doesn’t work on console?
restive portal
If the options menu shows the quit option it should bring you back to the chamber before final boss.
On PlayStation you can quit and save a file to USB stick to restore later
buoyant jay
Hm ok
peak yew
Poseidons call again dude
Op af, level it up a few times, I got 3 max gauges in that last boss fight and rekt
It’s like 2-3k damage easy
buoyant jay
Poseidons call again dude
So..take poseidons keepsake to force it?
peak yew
Yeah it’ll help you chunk him down
Also just watch his movements for opportunities to attack and focus on dodging while waiting
buoyant jay
K I’ll try it
peak yew
When he summons mobs kill them asap
The skulls are kinda hard to break unless you have good dots on them
Really any call that gives you invincible will be useful but Poseidon does crazy damage
polar finch
I assume that doesn’t work on console?
if you have acorn charges you can kinda do it. as long as you havent taken health damage you can quit to menu and be put at the start of the boss fight
coral fossil
It’s been 20 tries since my first win
my fav way to beat boss when I dont feel like trying or paying attention to the game is to take eris rail w/zeus attack and artemis/aphro special and try to get the cluster bomb+ rocket bomb hammers. You can take poseidon dash and try to get sea storm duo boon if you want extra dps, but that requires you to dash into the boss which is less than ideal for new players
buoyant jay
Time to give it another go then
polar finch
clockets casual 400 base damage
buoyant jay
I’ve made it to the fourth area like six times in a row today
So honestly all that stands in my way is mastering the final fight.
😑 died to him again
buoyant jay
clockets casual 400 base damage <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
That sounds amazing! I just spent my titans blood on eris rail and I’m going to try it out
I usually do at best like 300 damage
buoyant jay
I’ll keep trying with eris rail until I get my second win. Then I’ll try another weapon aspect til I’ve cleared with all of them
peak yew
You’ll get it!
buoyant jay
my fav way to beat boss when I dont feel like trying or paying attention to the ...
Very cool. It’s fun to play with
kind remnant
I’ll keep trying with eris rail until I get my second win. Then I’ll try another...
Eris is a great one to max out first for the rail!
What boon are you using for attack?
misty fractal
What boon are you using for attack?
I like Dionysus
kind remnant
I like Dionysus
That's a good one, do you want a tip or nah?
winged crescent
wanting to know if this game is worth a download?
gray haven
Definitely.
winged crescent
ok good
cus I tried playing Curse of the dead gods but couldn't get into it
kind remnant
Sure!
Start a run with zeus keep sake and go for zeus attack on eris rail, then try to get static discharge
restive portal
ok good
cus I tried playing Curse of the dead gods but couldn't get into it
I tried a bit of CotDG to and it's okay, but it lacks any characters or story or world building. Plus mechanically it's quite slow and very repetitive with only a few obviously best builds to aim for. I got bored pretty quickly. On the other hand I've put hundreds of hours into Hades and consider it the best Roguelite I've ever played by a wide margin.
polar finch
same
played cotdg literally right before hades. dropped it. playing too much hades now
viscid notch
restive portal
I've stopped playing any Rougelite except Hades. Hades just made everything else seem hollow.
pure pilot
I've played around 250h the Binding of Isaac and started to play Hades like 2 weeks ago. I like the gameplay and story of hades more, tboi just has more "upgrades", which can get very broken easily
ember bramble
Is there anything you got from completing the game multiple times
After completing it Zagreus keeps saying how he needs to get back to ||Persephone|| but is this because something actually happens if you do or is it just a story thing
pure pilot
Is there anything you got from completing the game multiple times
To reach the main story ending it is required to ||beat the game 10 times||.
ember bramble
To reach the main story ending it is required to ||beat the game 10 times||.
Welp
Hades is gonna remember this
pure pilot
Depends on your build. I really like adamant rail with Zeus Attack and Artemis Support Fire
marble mountain
Depends on your build. I really like adamant rail with Zeus Attack and Artemis S...
I heard that spread fire and rocket is good?
pure pilot
Rocket is good if you focus on special.
My build focuses more on attack
pure pilot
Yes, thats awesome, too
marble mountain
Beat dad once on PS4 and I am trying to 100% the game on PC cuz I am most likely to be using my laptop more
Also crush shot is kinda good if I can get it to a high level
marble mountain
So if I go shield I can ignore Athena?
But I found that the shield is kinda Poseidon heavy
But that's prob just me
Also Poseidon is mega pog for a greed run 😄
Also chaos if I can get lucky
dusty vault
||demeter and beating dad|| are spoilers here btw
dusty vault
The one you like the most
Some aspects are more blood needed than others tho
limber palm
It's a very good aspect
viscid notch
Indeed
viscid notch
Chiron you mean?
It’s good yea
Easy wins as long as || high heat|| is not involved
marble mountain
Ye
buoyant jay
They’re forcing me to take ares :/
When’s he even useful
Oh well as long as I get Artemis special I guess it doesn’t matter
marble mountain
Ares is good for hit and run tactics
marble mountain
But you need to spec into crit DMG to balance out the damage loss from doing hit and run
marble mountain
But don't take Ares cast cuz it is dodo
gusty kernel
what
marble mountain
So taking Artemis boons to compensate for that?
Yes
gusty kernel
i do
marble mountain
For high DPS builds it ain't worth
buoyant jay
Are any of the other casts any good?
marble mountain
I only started recently using cast and I like Dionysus cast
Give Aphrodite and artemis a shot cuz it is good
buoyant jay
I hope I get the cluster+rocket bomb combo
marble mountain
It is very good with Artemis special
buoyant jay
My last run had Artemis special and it was really good. I found one of the hammers but not the other
marble mountain
Usually you can find 2 hammers in a run
gray haven
Slicing Shot is a decent pick if you have core boons from Lady Artemis since you'll unlock Hunting Blades, but otherwise you'd generally avoid it.
Curse of Agony ("Doom Attack") is generally pretty good on melee. Starting Curse of Agony and then getting Divine Flourish, Merciful End (their Duo Boon), and Divine Dash is one of most powerful melee combos in the game.
marble mountain
^this
gray haven
You can only pick up 2 hammers in a run. You can see more if you skip some, but you can only pick up 2. The Anvil in the final shop removes 1 hammer upgrade at random and gives you 2 random new ones, so you can get a max of 3 upgrades that way.
marble mountain
But the chance for the anvil to spawn is not that high
gray haven
50%.
viscid notch
Yea Diamond is 1K, Titan Blood 1.2K
buoyant jay
Wow you can only get 2 hammers? I didn’t notice
gusty kernel
sex
viscid notch
Wow you can only get 2 hammers? I didn’t notice
Yup
buoyant jay
Guess I’m not seeing the cluster bomb+rocket combo this run
marble mountain
But it can happen
gray haven
But wut is the most expensive thing in the shop tho?
Titan Blood.
marble mountain
Guess I’m not seeing the cluster bomb+rocket combo this run
It is just not that common
marble mountain
Titan Blood.
Thx
buoyant jay
So if I use another gods keepsake to force a god after I have 4 gods’ boons, what will happen?
misty fractal
Cluster Bomb sure feels good
Cluster + that damage taken debuff is also good
All the Rail special hammers are good
buoyant jay
I love the rail
leaden whale
why it feels like I'm the only one struggling with ranged weapons and feeling just fine with melee ones 💀
leaden whale
I understand how to use both but it just feels inconvenient
leaden whale
They can be hard without aspects
oh yeah I only have one aspect for rail lol
leaden whale
is the secret spear aspect worth buying btw
or should invest blood into upgrading ones I already own
though
leaden whale
well the ||a lot less hp and healing|| penalty looks whack for someone as inexperienced as me lmao
although could combine with some stuff
buoyant jay
I love using the rail when I have unlimited ammo. Feels good not having to reload
Pats never there when I want him 😒
gray haven
So if I use another gods keepsake to force a god after I have 4 gods’ boons, wha...
When you pick up their boon, you'll just have a pool of 5 gods.
So any boon after that will be from one of those 5 gods.
grave storm
So if I use another gods keepsake to force a god after I have 4 gods’ boons, wha...
It still works, you get the 5th god's boon
misty fractal
Pats never there when I want him 😒
Yea when I need the Death Defies, he's never there
misty fractal
well the ||a lot less hp and healing|| penalty looks whack for someone as inexpe...
Yea really seems like you gotta max out that aspecy
buoyant jay
Yea when I need the Death Defies, he's never there <:dusa:522248771409543188>
I would’ve won this run if I had all my defiances. :/
leaden whale
man I sometimes just rely on pats too heavily lmao
like if he's guaranteed to appear
limber palm
He saves runs ngl
So powerful
celest fox
That's common early and much much later
marble mountain
Still dying to the final fight
Boss 4?
buoyant jay
Boss 4?
Yeah. I won once on my 53rd attempt but after that most of my log is died to redacted
buoyant jay
Only 1, Ive done 77 attempts so far 😔
marble mountain
Not as bad as my PS4 playthrough
buoyant jay
Not as bad as my PS4 playthrough
Really?
marble mountain
80 fails before I successfully escaped
buoyant jay
Whoa
marble mountain
Most of them are in tarterus and Asphodel
It wasn't until atempt 40ish that I got to elesium
Also Cerberus is best boi
buoyant jay
39 is my first time in Styx
buoyant jay
It’s interesting to see how far I’ve come. I can’t imagine dying to the first two bosses now
marble mountain
Goes to show how much a little bit of knowledge can affect a playthrough
buoyant jay
At least right now at low heat
marble mountain
I still need to progress story so I can meta progress
But that requires killing boss 4
buoyant jay
But that requires killing boss 4
Exactly. I’m trying to get 9 more wins then take a break from the game
buoyant jay
I want to eventually have like 40-50 wins
buoyant jay
My only problem is taking too much damage at the final fight, and losing my defiances ag the third fight
marble mountain
On a good run I can make 2 defiance's last untile boss 3
But that is on a good run
viscid notch
marble mountain
?
buoyant jay
Never mind sorry
marble mountain
K
buoyant jay
I mean you struggle a bit more than I do but that’s fine
I often lose like 1 defiance if I’m not careful
marble mountain
Ye
buoyant jay
I’m trying to use the acorn more instead of the lucky tooth
marble mountain
But Theseus is a prick
buoyant jay
Theseus is annoying
marble mountain
I've gotten a 1.2k once but that was from a artemis call crit
buoyant jay
Wow
gray haven
Acorn is the best tank keepsake in Elysium and the Temple of Styx, yeah.
||Heat|| is spoilers in this channel btw.
gray haven
Weakest attack in the final boss fight does ||16||. Strongest does ||40 (or 80 when debuffed)||.
Pretty unlucky, yeah.
You also don't get stunned when you tank a hit with the Acorn.
viscid notch
Hermes for meme builds usually, speedrunners use it on some weapons with Stygian (mirror), because it unlocks Hermes Legendary which is bugged
viscid notch
Yea it's Global Damage as opposed to Cast Damage only
gray haven
Lambent Plume can be pretty strong if you can proc it consistently and stack more dodge chance and damage reduction on top. Myrmidon Bracer mainly just when you have very high damage reduction and dodge chance already. Broken Spearpoint can be alright for newer players if you're really struggling with poison.
viscid notch
Small Styx tunnels dont count
buoyant jay
If I’m going to ever get to 40-50 wins I bet it’ll take a total of 250 escape attempts
frosty acorn
Do Dionysus' poison effect damage stack? The more stack, the more the poison deals damage? Asking because I've been avoiding using dionysus' flourish effect whenever I use shield and spear...
Also demeter's
viscid notch
Do Dionysus' poison effect damage stack? The more stack, the more the poison dea...
Hangover can stack 5 times yes (can be increased to 8 through Low Tolerance) and they deal damage continuously, Chill can stack 10 times but doesnt do damage over time unless you have Killing Freeze and in that case the amount of damage they take is determined by the Killing Freeze Rarity and independent from how many chill stacks are on them
robust lark
If I have Cluster Bomb, is Targeting or Rocket preferable to get next?
viscid notch
If I have Cluster Bomb, is Targeting or Rocket preferable to get next?
Rocket is much much stronger
Cluster Rockets is 5 Rockets with massive base damage
Cant go wrong
robust lark
Perfect.
viscid notch
Targetting would be my next pick tho
usually
Although it depends a bit on aspect and build and such
robust lark
What the actual f- this is wrong how powerful it is
polar finch
400 base damage pretty balanced
viscid notch
winged crescent
how do I know which boons to take?
I feel like I'm just picking at random
polar finch
when rockets ignore cluster bomb damage reduction
viscid notch
how do I know which boons to take?
I feel like I'm just picking at random
Guide pinned here might help you get started with what to look for and what goes with each weapon
Just a basic idea
winged crescent
that's all I need
polar finch
mostly experience
viscid notch
Yea you will choose correctly with experience and trial and error mostly
robust lark
@winged crescent Biggest thing is to pick between bonus damage or +% damage. Any weapon that hits quick and often will benefit from stuff that adds additional base damage, such as Zeus. Big powerful hits will benefit even more from +% damage, such as Aphrodite.
At some point you'll learn to find the nuances, but this is the big rule of thumb
frosty acorn
Do you think it's a good decision to use dionysus hangover for shield's and spear's Q? Because hangover seems useless for these two weapons' Q as well as rail gun's Q since it doesn't stack the hangover up to 5 rapidly...
polar finch
its not that great except for opening duos
viscid notch
Both of those tickle enemies and you generally dont focus on them to do damage
Spear requires Exploding Launcher to do damage through Special and in that case Artemis is usually the go-to
Or a big Aphrodite Special
If you have to take something make sure it opens some Duo yea
good duo
frosty acorn
So there are boons then that aren't recommendable to use for some weapons due to how they work?
winged crescent
I am determined af to finish a escape attempt with Heart Seeker
polar finch
<@!889726654484713512> Biggest thing is to pick between bonus damage or +% damag...
well tael said it pretty much
winged crescent
<@!889726654484713512> Biggest thing is to pick between bonus damage or +% damag...
so anything +% is for quick weapons?
leaden whale
no quick weapons want additive dmg
winged crescent
I'm confused
leaden whale
high dmg slow weapons want %
viscid notch
Well it's more about the weapon moveset rather than the whole weapon
Like the rail wants Flat damage on the attack because it hits rapidly and % damage on the Special because it's a big slow chunk
winged crescent
there's too much info
polar finch
its just math. if zeus attack adds 10 damage per hit. on rail attack which has 10 base damage thats a 100% increase
more than youll likely get from something than an athena boon
winged crescent
I'm not talking about the math
but okay bub lol
polar finch
well youre saying its too much info but what we're saying is just two things. put flat damage on weak fast attacks and put % damage on heavy attacks
and you can keep that in mind with just a single method. doing the math
winged crescent
well youre saying its too much info but what we're saying is just two things. p...
I'm referring to the pins and videos I just watched. that's all I needed. put flat damage on weak fast attacks and % on heavy attacks
languid dune
I have lucky tooth on my way to reach asphodel, should I switch it to something else for bone hydra?
viscid notch
Lucky tooth is fine defensively
valid shoal
If he’s giving you trouble the best keepsakes against bosses are ||acorn and tooth||
But if he isn’t giving you trouble anything else is fine like if there is a specific god you want
viscid notch
Yea if you often get past asphodel swap to something that makes your build stronger
Since you wont need help staying alive
winged crescent
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2248251083
this was really helpful
buoyant jay
I still need to lol
Haven’t won yet?
winged crescent
no
just got this yesterday
still learning
buoyant jay
Enjoying it so far?
winged crescent
most definitely
new favorite game of the year for sure
still trying to find my playstlye
winged crescent
the farthest ive gone is Elysium boss
with the bow
buoyant jay
That’s really good
winged crescent
trying the shield rn
simple vector
should i take drunken dash as my second boon if it replaces my first boon hunter dash? its a heroic but im not sure if its that much better to nullify the first one. keep in mind after this chamber i have the chaos thing ups my chance to get rare or better boons
viscid notch
should i take drunken dash as my second boon if it replaces my first boon hunte...
What biome are you in? What weapon/aspect do you have? Any specific builds in mind?
winged crescent
any newbie shield builds?
simple vector
this is super early in the run probably 4th room its a shield run if it matters
no specific builds in mind i just want to work around a high grade boon because i have the benefit from the chaos boon to up my chances at good ones
grave storm
any newbie shield builds?
Ares on regular attack, Athena on dash, then look for Athena special and their duo. Broken if you get the duo, still perfectly viable if you don't
viscid notch
no specific builds in mind i just want to work around a high grade boon because ...
What are your other options? Do you already have a source of Hangover?
winged crescent
Ares on regular attack, Athena on dash, then look for Athena special and their d...
thanks gamer
simple vector
its only my second boon with my first being the artemis boosted dash attack so no
my other options are positive outlook and after party
grave storm
thanks gamer
Also remember that you can block with the shield
viscid notch
my other options are positive outlook and after party
Well the Dash Replace probably does you a decent bit more compared to Hunter’s Dash assuming you’re not dash striking a ton
So it’s a fine take
simple vector
the other two dio boons seem sorta meh so i thinks its an ok choice yeah
viscid notch
Hard to tell you a correct answer when it’s early in the run since your build is still coming along, both of those dashes are fine but don’t do a whole lot so this wont be a very important decision, After Party can be okay with Rarity if you get hit a lot throughout normal rooms, Positive Outlook is somewhat the same, conditionally useful
in this case
winged crescent
if I choose a Posiden attack at the beginning
can i replace it with something else later on?
viscid notch
if I choose a Posiden attack at the beginning
can i replace it with something e...
If a God offers a replace yes or if you sell it and get an attack from someone else
winged crescent
okay
simple vector
what zeus boons are good
viscid notch
Call can be very good universally
Attack/Special/Cast depends
Dash there is usually something better
simple vector
offered call, electric shot, and thounder flourish
viscid notch
You’re running on shield so Flourish wont do much, Electric Shot is nice through Tart and early Aspho but wont do much later, Call is the most useful pick, good damage and a panic button for iframes
Good side boons from Zeus if you don’t wanna put him in your core slots / unlock duos would be Lightning Reflex / Heaven’s Vengeance, just side damage, can ramp up later if you keep getting more Zeus (Static Discharge and Double Strike)
misty fractal
any newbie shield builds?
I cleared with shield using Ares on Special and Athena on the attack
and Athena Dash
You can play pretty safe and far back using blocks and shield special to apply doom
simple vector
i died lol
idk how to consistently beat her i just try to poke away at her with my ranged stuff cuz i feel too scared to run up and hit her idk
i also need to avoid the spike
traps
leaden whale
damn
the more you fight against her, you will learn her attack patterns
dont worry about it
polar finch
mainly just learning her tells
misty fractal
idk how to consistently beat her i just try to poke away at her with my ranged s...
Shoot her after she dashes towards you
and just dodge around when theres circles on the floor
she does it like 3 or 4 times in a row
Then you can shoot her
buoyant jay
After Zeus shield, what should I try to win with next? The sword, the bow, or the fists?
cinder tartan
fists are fun
winged crescent
yo
why was the bone hydra purple this time?
simple vector
im playing fists now. do they benefit a lot from electric shot?
winged crescent
fists are fun
shield is fun too
cinder tartan
he has different heads
polar finch
hydra has 4 variants yeah
winged crescent
4? bruh lol
polar finch
blue lernie fun lernie
cinder tartan
im playing fists now. do they benefit a lot from electric shot?
yes
i mean electric attack
winged crescent
Athena special for shield is hella fun
grave storm
The heads of lernie:
deflect go brrr
aaa eggs
Please stop slamming
The floor is lava
buoyant jay
After I clear with all weapons I’m mostly going to use my favorite ones
winged crescent
The heads of lernie:
deflect go brrr
aaa eggs
Please stop slamming
The floor is ...
accurate
buoyant jay
I love the rail
simple vector
but the cast one probably isnt too good
winged crescent
for what
simple vector
fists
polar finch
yeah talos is meh
simple vector
zeus cast
odd shoal
yeah talos is meh
Talos isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw an aspect with such damage and style? Talos puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see an aspect with it's style and power again. Demeter breaks records. [REDACTED] has dash only. Talos breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.
misty fractal
The heads of lernie:
deflect go brrr
aaa eggs
Please stop slamming
The floor is ...
Arent there 5? He has the homing projectiles and the accelerating wave projectiles
fallen arrow
Can you purge Sunken Treasure in the Pool of Purging for Underworld Customs
grave storm
No
winged crescent
I beat the Bull of Minos
odd shoal
pog
fallen arrow
RIP, thanks guys
polar finch
its a one time effect so it wouldnt really make much sense
fallen arrow
yeah, I just couldn't remember if the boon showed up in my list of boons whenever I took it, so I was sitting at a poseidon boon selection and thought I'd ask instead of finding out the "do it myself" way.
WELP I took poseidon attack and as a result got Mirage Shot in the very next room. So I guess it was providence 🙂
restive portal
Now sell Poseidon attack and get a real one!
fallen arrow
that was the plan!
buoyant jay
Not very good with the shield so far, I’m best with the rail
fallen arrow
My biggest thing with getting decent with the shield was slowing down. I like to dash around, always be moving, etc etc
celest fox
Yeah
fallen arrow
I struggled most with Spear/Shield starting off
celest fox
You can slow down because of the bull rush
Spear is about comboing stuff together imo
Achilles especially
buoyant jay
I found the rail pretty easy to use
simple vector
im tryna force the athena ares duo i already have ares attack and athena dash
simple vector
should i get slicing shot urge to kill or dire misfortune
fallen arrow
Dire
celest fox
Your dash will trigger it. You can just do dash strikes.
fallen arrow
by a mile
odd shoal
yeah you need special to open ME
buoyant jay
Idk how I managed to win my first run with the spear
simple vector
shields
celest fox
Shield okay. Better than urge still
Just dont expect too much from it on shield attack.
odd shoal
Shield ME
celest fox
It's safe and easy
misty fractal
Merciless End 👀
dusty vault
Shield ME <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
MEus 
fallen arrow
I forget you can build ME on anything except fists >.> I'm basic.
odd shoal
MEus <:residentzag:580097451197857816>
exception
misty fractal
ME bow is kinda bad though
fallen arrow
I need that monkey nueron activate meme with fists and forcing ME
dusty vault
MEris rail
misty fractal
Fists is decent ME you hit fast
celest fox
But thats slow
buoyant jay
I haven’t played with the fists yet
celest fox
Hera would trigger it on cast shots
fallen arrow
what if with Chiron/||Rama||, doom on special, ath attack and dodge, with uh, the stacking one and delayed one
misty fractal
But bow attack sucks at deflecting
celest fox
If you are one shotting enemies, you will never run out.
fallen arrow
that sounds like it could be fun
fallen arrow
Dire Misfortune and Impending doom would allow the special to drop a ton of doom stacks
celest fox
For ME ||Rama|| I'd just do divine dash
misty fractal
but this sounds like disaster if you just don get ME
celest fox
Athena cast not Artemis cast
misty fractal
yea athena cast
celest fox
Doom on ||Rama|| special is good imo
dusty vault
Doom is still decent with a high lvl at least
fallen arrow
I feel like Dire Misfortune would be required for ||rama||
leaden whale
ME is best on hidden bow
celest fox
Though with DM you can just spam special and get like 5k doom crits
leaden whale
dire misfortune sucks
dusty vault
ME is best on hidden bow
Spoiler mark that one
fallen arrow
really?
odd shoal
doom on ||rama|| is just nice support
dusty vault
Fists-sword are the most used for ME
celest fox
DM is good on ||rama special, maybe Zeus special, and that's really it||
odd shoal
your attack is your main damage anyways
celest fox
those are very rapid and controllable doom application, but you also need Impending. It just takes lots of work.
leaden whale
its not good on zues special its just acceptable
odd shoal
MEus is just good
celest fox
Impending opens up the timeframe for DM
leaden whale
if a weapon is ok with DM then its great with any other additive dmg
celest fox
Yeah its better with just ||rama special only||
You just dodge stuff and apply doom to everything
fallen arrow
yeah, but do you need the time frame if you are using doom on ||rama|| special. I feel like all the stacks will hit before anything deflects to trigger it
misty fractal
Dire Misfortune kind of bad
celest fox
You dont deflect
odd shoal
||rama special only|| is just hangover, seastorm, or Artemis
celest fox
You just mass apply doom
misty fractal
You don need to deflect, just hit them with something yhat would deflrct
celest fox
I've done Demeter and it worked
dusty vault
||rama special only|| is just hangover, seastorm, or ~~Artemis~~
Wait why the third
celest fox
Memes
dusty vault
Fair
odd shoal
I mean
celest fox
15 dmg crits spicy
celest fox
I've seen it. It's sloooow
fallen arrow
yeah, that's what i mean. It just seems like the stacks would hit so fast with ||Rama||special you wouldn't need ID. Like, ofc you want it, but idk
dusty vault
other than that I have zero reasoning LOL
Just cause it works i wont call it good
celest fox
||Rama|| special only with Zeus can absolutely melt stuff
odd shoal
its what Schad did for 53 ||heat||
dusty vault
Zeus can melt in general
fallen arrow
I almost exclusively run it with thunder flourish.
dusty vault
Just get all the Zeus
celest fox
I also like to get support fire in those runs lol
simple vector
is upgraded rarity on next boon from well of charon increase my chances of getting athena special or no?
celest fox
Endless arrows
fallen arrow
no, just upgraded common>rare>epic chance
celest fox
Like bolts can crit so why not add Artemis into the pool in Asphodel.
fallen arrow
your best way to force a core ability is to fill the other core ability slots. Game likes to offer core abilities, so if it's the only one left, higher chance. @simple vector
buoyant jay
What are some fun builds to try for new players?
fallen arrow
Like bolts can crit so why not add Artemis into the pool in Asphodel.
this sounds fun. I love support fire just cause it /feels/ good lol.
celest fox
This is also really a good build for lightning rod tbh
buoyant jay
I liked the last run I did
odd shoal
what aspect are you using
celest fox
You arent using your cast for much else
Try Achilles aspect + Crush Shot
Rush then shotgun cast
Only downside is on bosses your casts get lodged. So get a good attack boon.
Get flurry jab
Zeus attack probably, but go with whatever good shows up really.
You'll want the attack option earlier than mid asphodel probably
Maybe early asphodel if you are lucky
Put lots of poms on Crush Shot. Flurry Shot/Cast and Hermes' Legendary are good if they ever show up
Get Smouldering air if it shows up
peak yew
I'mma spank hades with the fisticuffs and the shieldicuffs on my stream today
simple vector
is it worth it to sell dire misfortune in order to get another dd
simple vector
im in elysium i just got in
my attack has doom and im running shield trying to get athena ares duo
leaden whale
then wait until styx
cuz if u get pat its a huge waste of money
and u probably wont need it til styx anyway
simple vector
i dont have any dds
leaden whale
what weapon r u using and which has doom
dusty vault
Shield doesnt apply doom fast enough for dm to be worth
leaden whale
never take dm tbh
the point of doom is to apply it once and then do other stuff while its happening for max dmg
DM is conceptually gross
simple vector
oh i made it to minos scary hours
paper elk
I’m not necessarily new but I’m not “experienced” either, I just wanted to ask what god is a good synergy for Artemis?
winged crescent
I hate Elysium
leaden whale
I’m not necessarily new but I’m not “experienced” either, I just wanted to ask w...
Aphro has a duo boon with her which makes weakened enemy take +150% more dmg from crits
buoyant jay
I hate Elysium
It’s pretty hard at first but it got easier over time
leaden whale
the duo with Ares is also really good but besides that she doesn’t have good synergy imo
Mirage shot is good as a support boon
restive portal
Artemis and Aphrodite are a great combo with Heart Rend and Hunter's Mark. Big crits all over the place doing bonus damage.
simple vector
what are good gods/builds to go for with bow? i never play it
restive portal
I tend to think Artemis, Aphrodite and Zeus combine to give the best set of possible duo boons. Smouldering Air, Heart Rend and Lightning Rod. Get all of them in a single run and it's bonkers good.
leaden whale
what are good gods/builds to go for with bow? i never play it
which aspect
or do u not have them yet
people tend to not like bow until they get chiron lol
i like aphro on attack and doom on special
restive portal
For normal bow, Zeus attack, Aphrodite Special and Artemis Cast. Then look for one or more of the duos I mentioned. Also stick Zeus on Call if you can as this opens up some extra boons for Lightning Rod.
leaden whale
curse longing if u can get it
simple vector
yeah i picked flurry
paper elk
Thank you
winged crescent
so I picked aspect of zag
should I have picked something else?
winged crescent
It’s pretty hard at first but it got easier over time
I'm on attempt 10 and haven't beaten Elysium
it's sad af
peak yew
alright time to kill last boss with mah fisticuffs
winged crescent
Elysium makes me wanna quite.
celest fox
Flurry on aspect of zag is good
Especially with full artemis
Artemis attack + mark mostly
Then twin shot
It's a simple and amazing build
Then get like tidal dash
The best bow aspect is the hidden aspect imo but all aspects before that one have a similar enough playstyle. For this, I'd probably put Aphrodite on special
buoyant jay
I'm on attempt 10 and haven't beaten Elysium
it's sad af
Your tenth run ever? I didn’t make it to Elsyium until later than that. I say you’re doing great
winged crescent
not for me
celest fox
Average first win is probably about 30
It's a roguelike. You are supposed to die learning.
You dont know the game. You cant win immediately
winged crescent
I have a really bad habit of being hard on myself
winged crescent
ik
celest fox
Just get a little better each try.
You will probably win before 20
At this pace
But it's fine whenever
buoyant jay
Where’d you die in Elysium?
winged crescent
the duo boss
buoyant jay
Makes sense
winged crescent
sometimes before that
celest fox
Like if you are consistently making it to Elysium these past few runs
Yeah that's normal
Focus fire minotaur
Try to cower behind pillars
So Theseus' spear wont hit you
winged crescent
I don't even know what playstyle i want
buoyant jay
Yeah killing Theseus is easier when the Minotaur is dead
celest fox
Stay behind him generally.
The minotaur
Playstyle is always fast. If you want an easier time try shield.
Dont just get any boon on it though
winged crescent
I can't get past hydra with the shield
celest fox
Why?
winged crescent
cus I'm trash
celest fox
Hold your rush
It blocks basically everything
Maybe not slams but hold it and then be ready to dash out
That's generally how you play around lava
Bow then?
Do you have aspects yet?
Hera aspect is very strong starting off
celest fox
Okay
winged crescent
I'm in a crap mood
celest fox
Go for a good cast with Hera. Athena or Aphrodite's usually. Then usually just Artemis attack.
Even if you arent doing power shots this will do well
Make sure to put lots of poms into the cast
It will probably get you past the Champions
winged crescent
Hera?
celest fox
Yeah
winged crescent
idk who or what that is
winged crescent
oh
celest fox
You dont have aspects then? Other forms of each weapon?
You will soon. Those are a big power jump.
winged crescent
I do have aspects
just haven't seem the bow ones yet
winged crescent
so what boons should I grab?
Athena and Artemis?
winged crescent
like how do set up the build
which boons go where
celest fox
Those are your best options
winged crescent
okay
alpine ridge
Aphrodite's or Dionysus' Cast
celest fox
Dionysus cast is good too yeah
winged crescent
Festive fog right?
alpine ridge
although with Dio, Stygian Soul is best
winged crescent
Artemis attack
Dio Cast
Athena dash
celest fox
But pinpointed from your bow
alpine ridge
then go for more Cast stones from Chaos
celest fox
And faster
Yeah
Hera aspect is a very good first win aspect
It easily gets a lot of damage without you needing to know exactly how to run build
winged crescent
ok
Artemis, Dio and Athena
got it
celest fox
Which you cant yet really. You need more mirror stuff.
Yeah
Just use dionysus keepsake
Get trippy shot. Pom it.
winged crescent
I don't think I got his yet
celest fox
Okay. Thats fine.
Hopefully he will show up
If not Aphrodite cast is another option
winged crescent
what should my Call be?
celest fox
Doesnt matter
winged crescent
okay
celest fox
Yeah usually they dont matter too much
Unless you want the call duo Smouldering Air
Which makes your call your main damage source
peak yew
aaaaand last boss down
celest fox
Nice
peak yew
fisticuffed him one good
winged crescent
gg
buoyant jay
Cool
peak yew
just gotta do shield now
buoyant jay
Nice job
winged crescent
I've made it furthest with the bow
buoyant jay
just gotta do shield now
I won today too
winged crescent
I won today too
I will eventually
celest fox
Thats good. Hera will get you further for sure then.
buoyant jay
With eris rail
peak yew
I won today too
niiiiiice! I knew you'd get it eventually
celest fox
As just an upgrade over the basic bow, it is a lot more damage. That will help a lot.
winged crescent
niiiiiice! I knew you'd get it eventually
how many attempts for your first win?
buoyant jay
niiiiiice! I knew you'd get it eventually
So you’ve cleared with every weapon except the shield?
peak yew
how many attempts for your first win?
26th was the first win