#h1-for-new-players
leaden whale
/shrug
ik but now it does 150 charge
per arrow
on special
Oh then that's 
i got the posideon upgrade for the special attack to lvl 4
and i also got charge
from hammer
so i can charge my speical
which increases range and damage
lolol
i cannot be killed
oh ye and it also has the ares thing on it
lol
and it does 100 damage
cuz it lvl 2
on my special
so i do 250 per arrow
basically
restive portal
Just remember that only one Doom effect per enemy is active at any time (unless you get a particular boon) so it's not quite as simple as adding it up like that. Still good though.
restive portal
Yeah, you seem to be paying good attention to the details. The boons are very precise with the wording in most cases, so paying attention is good to avoid pitfalls.
restive portal
Depends where you put it. Everything is good somewhere.
leaden whale
not most of zeus's stuff
lol
like i think it is good for someone who is using a sword or a spear
but even at that
restive portal
Zeus is generally considered one of the stronger gods
leaden whale
it isnt that good
leaden whale
Zeus is generally considered one of the stronger gods
b r u h
well what is the "worst" in the community
also i love ares and posideon
they are my favs
restive portal
Zeus on a fast weapon with the extra jolted boon is a lot of damage.
leaden whale
isnt the jolted boon just that u do extra damage
when u hit with eletrical attacks
also can u get 2 hammers or more in a run]
cuz if so that is op
cuz the hammer is great
alpine ridge
you can usually get 2 hammers on a run
leaden whale
pog
triple shot plus bomb
on bow
B)
or
the bouncing one
that bounces the arrows
and everytime it bounces
it would do another explosion
rn i like my run tho
cuz i have
explosive shot on my normal bow
but on my special ablity
i have
restive portal
Getting some hammers stops you gets others later. Not all combinations are allowed.
leaden whale
CHARGE SPECIAL ABLITY and LVL 4 SPECIAL POSIDEON ATTACK AND LVL 2 SPECIAL DOOM THING
so my bow special
is op
150 per shot not counting the lvl 2 doom thing
and big range if u charge it
restive portal
The attack boon won't improve your special.
leaden whale
The attack boon won't improve your special.
ik
ik that
it is still 150 tho
im not counting the boom
restive portal
Are okay, just that you said special Poseidon attack.
leaden whale
cuz ik it isnt for special
leaden whale
Are okay, just that you said special Poseidon attack.
i meant
the
u know the upgrade
the posideon one
that
makes ur special stronger
and gives it knockback
i have that at lvl 4
restive portal
Good for pushing enemies away and buying space
restive portal
Not fantastic for damage, but it's fine (the Poseidon thing)
leaden whale
and then i have the hammer ablity that lets me charge my special
which gives it 300% more damage and way better range
restive portal
That's nice extra damage.
restive portal
Where are you so far?
restive portal
It's a good start for sure. Good luck!
restive portal
Look for an extra boon called Razor Shoals from Poseidon if you get more from him.
It'll help a lot with the attack.
And if you do have Zeus anywhere, there's a pretty good Duo boon between Zeus and Poseidon.
And probably wise to pick up a Call in the next area if you don't already have one.
leaden whale
I BEAT THE SNAKE
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WOOOOO LETS GO BABY
THATS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
robust lark
So I -think- I've almost beaten the game, but its always on the grace of getting lucky with nice boons. Is it always pure randomness what I get each run?
leaden whale
yes it is
restive portal
There are ways to adjust the randomness and control the build you want. The latter talents in the mirror of night can help, as do keepsakes.
leaden whale
oh ye btw chaos sucks
like rlly sucks
u have to do a challange and in return u get some terrible stuff
and u have to sacrafice some of ur hearts to get in
restive portal
Chaos is just a double edged sword.
restive portal
Getting +70% attack isn't bad
robust lark
It is recommended to try and eke out specific builds you're looking for? Or is that just high level farming stuff and am I fine just rolling with whatever I get?
restive portal
No
restive portal
It is recommended to try and eke out specific builds you're looking for? Or is t...
Using keepsakes in Tartarus and Asphodel is a good way to get the basics of a build you want. Once you power up the keepsakes, simply by using them more, the boons you get from those gods are better.
robust lark
Right, so finding good builds and trying to get them is the way to go. Not just getting random stuff and hoping for the best
restive portal
You need an item from the contractor to let you switch keepsakes between regions and you should prioritise getting that
Yeah, many boon combinations just don't work very well. While some are amazing. Your choice of boons depends on the weapon you have and whether you're using attack, special, or cast for your damage.
robust lark
time to start leveling those keepsakes then
restive portal
If what you are using does high damage then look for boons which apply a multiplier. If you are doing small amounts of damage quickly look for a boon which applies a status effect.
It's also worth thinking about which combination of gods you have, and how that enables various duo boons
robust lark
Right, cause even though you can force one god, the rest is still utterly random
restive portal
Aiming for one or two duo boons can really turn an average build into an amazing one.
There are ways to tip the balance using talents from the mirror, but it's basically random underneath
robust lark
Is there any solid way of obtaining those duo boons? I've encountered them really seldomly, not often enough to be a reliable strategy
restive portal
If you give me a build you want me to get, including a specific duo boon, I could probably get it 50% of the time.
robust lark
Does that mean the other 50% is a loss, or?
polar finch
propably more than 50%
restive portal
There are ways to increase the chances of duos, but honestly it's better to use the other talent on the reverse side, which increases the chance of good rooms overall.
polar finch
unless you dont have the last 3 mirror perks
restive portal
Does that mean the other 50% is a loss, or?
Depends on the difficulty in going for. Mostly I'll get by.
polar finch
duos are very common when you stack keepsakes, legacy, and even a single other rarity boost
restive portal
Yes, chaos can boost the chance of rate boons a lot
polar finch
like a keepsake plus legacy is 32% to roll a duo for each slot not taken up by a priority boon
robust lark
That all sounds like post-beating the game stuff though. Or are you supposed to max the keepsakes and the mirrors before escaping the first time?
polar finch
dont have to
restive portal
Basically it gets much easier to get the build you want when you have all the keepsakes maxed and the mirror opened on both sides.
valid shoal
Is there any solid way of obtaining those duo boons? I've encountered them reall...
If you have the codex upgrade to see the boons it tells you the prerequisites, this can help you figure out what specifically you need for a boon yoy want
polar finch
you dont particularly need duos for your first clear anyways
but helpful to know how to up your chances of getting them
restive portal
For early runs just try things out and make the best of what you get. Not everything works out and you'll probably have some really duff runs. Try again and try something else.
robust lark
I got an inch to beating the last boss, but the few times I've reached there it was cause I happened to find nice combinations of boons. I was wondering if I was "supposed" to be trying to get specific builds, or if its normal to just grab whatever and lose most runs cause I didn't get good stuff.
that is to say, pre-beating the game
restive portal
Later you'll look back after winning 10 times in a row and wonder why you ever thought it was so hard.
Early on, it's much more luck based.
But keepsakes are an early way to start tweaking the odds
robust lark
Riiight, I see. Alright
polar finch
using god keepsakes and at least focusing on fitting gods that complement your weapon into your pool is a good idea
restive portal
Sometimes for example you might choose a less good boon from one God to leave a slot open (e.g. cast) for something else which goes better with the attack you already have
robust lark
But there's no way of skipping gods, right? If I start with say.. Poseidon, then it basically means I'll have to fit him in my deck somehow
restive portal
There a bunch of strategy around predicting which boons you might see later. And things like duo boons only become available when you have boons from both gods already, so sometimes you might even avoid a god to avoid seeing duo boons that you wouldn't get value from.
There are ways later to more effectively avoid gods, but it's not always possible, so being opportunistic is good.
robust lark
Yush. So the name of the game is making the best of what you got
with some tools to tweak the odds
restive portal
Yeah. It's a good Roguelite!
restive portal
Np
eternal heart
got my fifth escape!
misty fractal
👀
leaden whale
it stays until you get that god as a chamber reward
you'll see the "🔄 1" symbol under it if it has its use left
polar finch
wont be used up
frigid holly
Specificaly can you 1 shot a phase of hades with a single attack
polar finch
with beo yeah
well if you count loading a ton of casts as one attack
actually probably shouldnt be talking about this in this channel since its kinda spoilerish
gray haven
with beo yeah
Spoiler. 
gray haven
It is recommended to try and eke out specific builds you're looking for? Or is t...
It really depends on how much guidance you want tbh.
If you want to figure out builds yourself, then I'd suggest first focusing on upgrading things like your mirror and keepsakes as well as fulfilling prophecies like getting each boon from each of the gods. Then from there, you'll have at least some idea what boons exist and what they do.
If you want at least a little help with where to start for a good build, my Newbie Build Guide is pinned in this channel. That should hopefully help with that.
And if you want build suggestions for any specific weapon or even step-by-step guidance in a run or anything like that, you can always ask here and people will offer suggestions or point you to a good guide.
gray haven
Specificaly can you 1 shot a phase of hades with a single attack
(1) Please spoiler-tag the final boss, (2) ||you can actually one-shot his entire HP bar in phase 2 if you have enough Stygian Shards (bonus trap damage) and then bait him into one of his green urns||.
leaden whale
Oh yes Hades, the seemingly balanced game with broken oddities like that
Still better this way
gray haven
Balance is a means to an end, not the end goal.
rotund apex
how do u type a spoiler-tag?
gray haven
||spoiler||
rotund apex
ty
gray haven
Wait what
How did you do this <:squirtooh:456913427240189965>
\|\|spoiler\|\|
Now don't ask me how I did that one. That's top secret.
leaden whale
Oh I know
These are like canceling ones
But I never really figured how exactly they worked so
gray haven
This is going off-topic anyway.
valid shoal
\\\|\\\|spoiler\\\|\\\|
You only need one \ at the start
gray haven
But that doesn't look as cool.
leaden whale
This is going off-topic anyway.
True dat
thorn badger
leaden whale
I BEAT THE HEROS
POGGGGGGGG
POGGGG
with the ||funni gun||
||i got the nuke upgrade for it which makes my gun special do 300% damage and have a bigger range but now it hurts me and also loads of crit upgrades||
restive portal
That's a good build. Crit hazard bomb is very powerful. Just don't step in it too much.
If you can pick up another hammer, look for Targeting System.
dusty vault
or delta chamber to keep iframes on dash
leaden whale
bruh when I first tried out the rail i got like the worst hammer options
💀
and really didn't enjoy dying in the way I did
restive portal
and i also have lvl 3 crits on my special attack
How did it go?
leaden whale
yo i saw ||hades||
and now my wepons are now c o o l
||i can change them now so what should i change them to (spoiler the answer so that new players dont get spoilers.....well i still am i new player but still)||
||i use the bow, the shield and the gun if u are wondering and i play passively||
also i died to ||hades||
i need help on wot to do :((((
restive portal
Unlock ||Chiron bow|| and use ||Dionysus boon|| to add ||hangover|| to the special.
restive portal
yo i saw ||hades||
Please spoiler hide the final boss name.
leaden whale
Please spoiler hide the final boss name.
oops
leaden whale
Unlock ||Chiron bow|| and use ||Dionysus boon|| to add ||hangover|| to the speci...
i like both of types of the bows
they are both good
i would say
all ||3|| of them
leaden whale
well i kinda want the ||4th|| one
restive portal
That'll take a while.
leaden whale
Unlock ||Chiron bow|| and use ||Dionysus boon|| to add ||hangover|| to the speci...
also isnt that the bow that ||shoots homing special but less arrows||
leaden whale
do u just ||escape a few times||
You don't have to do that, just fyi
dusty vault
also isnt that the bow that ||shoots homing special but less arrows||
It gets better at high lvls
restive portal
also isnt that the bow that ||shoots homing special but less arrows||
Yes. Hangover only stacks a maximum of 5 times anyway so at base level you nearly max out its damage anyway.
simple vector
who should I gift to first?
restive portal
Good choices are ||Dog|| for more health or ||Skelly|| for an extra life of maybe ||Hypnos|| for some extra money at the start. Personally I'd go for health, but other would say the extra life.
tawny kraken
New to this discord. Please direct me to the right place if I’m in the wrong spot. I can’t for the life of me figure out Artemis’ favor. I have 6 nectars given but can’t unlock the 7th.
polar finch
the wiki has information on all the favors
leaden whale
gift to Cerberus because hes a good boy 
tawny kraken
Ok thanks
lapis parcel
Hi, just wondering if the bow is a viable weapon? It boasts a very defensive play style so if I wanted to be a completionist and beat with every weapon would this hinder me? I haven’t used ||titan blood|| yet so no upgrades
leaden whale
who should I gift to first?
||dog is rlly good in my opinion and i also think skelly is good and so is the sleepy person for the start of your run but after the first boss unequip it||
polar finch
every weapon is quite viable
leaden whale
Hi, just wondering if the bow is a viable weapon? It boasts a very defensive pl...
well the bow is a viable wepon but so is every wepon
if u like playing passive
u use bow or sheild
lapis parcel
Ok since those are my fav ill use dem. I have to get all weapons to upgrade right?
lapis parcel
I got to ||hades||
leaden whale
o-o
lapis parcel
didnt beat him tho
leaden whale
ik
valid shoal
I got to ||hades||
Spoiler please
polar finch
aspects are unlocked after unlocking all weapons
leaden whale
i got them when i beat ||hades|| wait not beat i mean met
lapis parcel
aspects are unlocked after unlocking all weapons
Nice thank you
leaden whale
i met him on my 13 run
polar finch
aspects are unlocked after unlocking all weapons
then doing a run. either winning or losing
leaden whale
and i beat the first boss on my 3rd run which i am proud of
lapis parcel
i met him on my 13 run
11th run!
Yeah ||meg|| is tough when you start out
Worst for me is ||tisiphone||
leaden whale
Worst for me is ||tisiphone||
im trying to remeber is ||tisiphone|| the angry one or the murder one
dusty vault
murder
lapis parcel
Murrrrdurrrer
leaden whale
nah she is ez
i think she is ez
meg is easiest then tisiphone then the other one
but they are all simple
lapis parcel
I was testing out the ||spear ||first time so that probably affected it
leaden whale
I was testing out the ||spear ||first time so that probably affected it
also here is a tip that i think counts as glitch abusing but u have one minute to test out a wepon then u can just quit and rejoin if u wanna save ur keys/titan blood
lapis parcel
Only fough her once as well
leaden whale
just dont go into another room
lapis parcel
also here is a tip that i think counts as glitch abusing but u have one minute t...
rlly? Thats cool
leaden whale
ikr
polar finch
uh a lot more than a minute
lapis parcel
ill try it on the locked gun thingy
polar finch
you can go to the courtyard, upgrade a weapon, then go directly into a run
leaden whale
ill try it on the locked gun thingy
it is poggers
waxen reef
how to mod super mario odyssey
polar finch
if you end the run by using 'give up' instead of dying or winning then youll reload to before you spent the blood and stuff
leaden whale
ill try it on the locked gun thingy
do u mind if i tell u what it does???
leaden whale
wrong sever lol
leaden whale
tell me please
||it has a primary fire that is like a rapid fire bow and u have to reload it and it has a bomb special||
lapis parcel
||bomb!!!!!||
leaden whale
||bomb!!!!!||
||b o m b||
lapis parcel
you still should unlock the gun, like it or not
I will. Im a completionist
leaden whale
me when ||bomb||
lapis parcel
||b o m b||
||B Ø M B||
polar finch
unlocking every weapon isnt really out of the ordinary
leaden whale
||*B Ø M B*||
||💣 ||
polar finch
also the rail doesnt qualify as a spoiler
leaden whale
||*B Ø M B*||
||well it is more of a mini nuke||
lapis parcel
YES
polar finch
uhhh also you can go to the courtyard, upgrade a weapon, then go directly into a run. if you end the run by using 'give up' instead of dying or winning then youll reload to before you spent the blood and stuff
lapis parcel
Kk
leaden whale
YES
||and u can get a hammer upgrade that makes it does 300% more damage and have massive range but it hurts u lol||
polar finch
rail special does like 60 base dmg. pretty hammer reliant if you want any damage out of it
leaden whale
rail special does like 60 base dmg. pretty hammer reliant if you want any damage...
rail primary sucks XDDD
lapis parcel
upgrade after rail unlock, I have ||4 blood||
leaden whale
only use special
lapis parcel
Kk
polar finch
rail primary sucks XDDD
only if you put percent boons on it
polar finch
O N L Y use special
uhhh dont
lapis parcel
I can become an inferno bomber
polar finch
you just put zeus or dio on the attack
leaden whale
I can become an inferno bomber
well i gotta admit hangover plus primary is good
lapis parcel
rail primary sucks XDDD
Does it reaload ev. 2 secs?
polar finch
dont put aphrodite or artemis on it
leaden whale
dont put aphrodite or artemis on it
deflect on special lol
lapis parcel
how often do you reload
lapis parcel
By the way ||temple of styx|| sucks, am I right? Especially those stupid ||poison dart people||
leaden whale
By the way ||temple of styx|| sucks, am I right? Especially those stupid ||poiso...
||not for me :/||
gray haven
You only need to spoiler-tag anything from the end boss onward btw.
leaden whale
By the way ||temple of styx|| sucks, am I right? Especially those stupid ||poiso...
Nah it's relatively easy actually
May struggle sometimes but it's usually not a big deal compared to elysium
Still died there for the first time today because the run was just... Generally going pretty poorly, to say the least
leaden whale
By the way ||temple of styx|| sucks, am I right? Especially those stupid ||poiso...
||they are just tanky i would say the lava area is harder tbh||
cinder tartan
||they are just tanky i would say the lava area is harder tbh||
i think the say brotha
leaden whale
i think the say brotha
w h a t
leaden whale
damn my brain siad ight amma head out i wanted to say i feel the same way
oh ok
misty fractal
By the way ||temple of styx|| sucks, am I right? Especially those stupid ||poiso...
Depends on weapon I say
Fists are really easy Styx imo
robust lark
Personally, I find Elysium much harder than Styx.
misty fractal
Styx has some hard end rooms though
robust lark
Very fair.
misty fractal
But sometimes Elysiums got some really hard stuff too 
robust lark
I feel like Elysium is more... tanky? Takes longer to clear. For me, that is.
cinder tartan
i hate the shield boys and longbows
misty fractal
Longbow as the bow really annoys me
cos they keep interrupting your charge shot
and hard to hit
well any bow that relies on charge shots
robust lark
My run just now had close range explosive hammers, so I didn't even bother charging.
Nock and release, bam bam bam.
misty fractal
Explosive feels good for bow in Elysijm cos can hit the Longbows around corners
buoyant jay
I only beat the game once and I’m kinda struggling to do it again. Any advice while I don’t have ||fated persuasion or the other reroll skill yet, plus I don’t have many of the aspects unlocked yet?|| I’m using ||aspect of chiron|| and I almost beat ||Hades again earlier but died to him||
I guess I could use some help with builds+playing the bow better?
robust lark
I asked a similar question earlier. For what I was told, until you get to a point in the game where you can start manipulating the odds, it's mostly luck-based so you'll have some runs that you have great boons on, and others that you'll lose by default. The nice thing is that the hardest part of the game are the bosses and they don't change, so every time you face them you learn how to not take damage, the real key to beating the game.
And at some point you'll get good enough at not getting hit that it doesn't matter which boons you get.
For me personally, the biggest difference was learning about the difference between damage+ and damage% boons. That stuff is just... massively important.
also athena dash
valid shoal
I only beat the game once and I’m kinda struggling to do it again. Any advice wh...
A lot of attempts will feel like luck, but if yoy put some thought into what boons are good and bad and work well together (by experimentation and time) you can win more consistently. Until that point focus on darkness of course, I always pick the darker thirst weapon, and you can get those mirror upgrades
buoyant jay
For me personally, the biggest difference was learning about the difference betw...
Yeah I’m bringing the owl pendant to try and force Athena dash
Thanks I get it
I’ll try to practice
robust lark
It's much like a soulslike in that particular regard. The game gets more consistent the more you learn how to not get hit.
Getting "stronger" merely reduces the duration of the fight => less time to mess up.
restive portal
Using Chiron there are a few good build to aim for. For example: Aphrodite on attack, Dionysus on special, Dionysus on cast, Zeus on dash and Zeus on call. This opens up 2 great duo boon opportunities and ensure your enemies are mostly weakened or stunned most of the time. Look for Smouldering Air and Scintillating Feast and stack points into Zeus extras like double strike and jolted. Add Artemis for Pressure Points and maybe even hunters mark.
For more, see #h1-builds-and-combat
Obviously to do any of this you need to have started to get all the main god keepsakes, which apart from the mirror is what you should be prioritizing.
buoyant jay
I have all god keepsakes
buoyant jay
Using Chiron there are a few good build to aim for. For example: Aphrodite on at...
I’ll try that. Thanks
restive portal
Look for the hammers Relentless Volley and Concentrated Volley on Chiron.
You could also put Aphrodite on Special and Zeus on attack, or Artemis on Special.
tawdry vapor
Using Chiron there are a few good build to aim for. For example: Aphrodite on at...
hey i was just going to ask a bow build, this actually looks nice :O, will try it
i suppose if you aiming to use casts like Dionysus, then you should use the other cast talent (not boiling blood) because you wont be able to stick the stones with such cast right?
valid shoal
Both mirror abilities require lodging casts so it doesn’t matter, boiling is generally considered better
buoyant jay
Damn ||fated persuasion costs a lot of darkness to max out. Better get to work, only have one dice out of eight rn||
robust lark
Holy crap ||you can get 8||?! Neat.
buoyant jay
Holy crap ||you can get 8||?! Neat.
Yes, I just checked the wiki
dusty vault
Holy crap ||you can get 8||?! Neat.
thats fated authority, persuasion caps at 4
(tho you still can pick up extra mid run of either if you get fated keys from the contractor)
robust lark
Still neat.
robust lark
What are the main considerations between Stygian and Infernal Soul? I went with Stygian myself cause at the time I figured less chaotic fights would be the biggest gain for me and can go ham with stacking stones in enemies. But I imagine Infernal has some benefits too?
leaden whale
in my experience, infernal is ussually better because right away you get to triple cast your spell but stygian is good for casts which stick or linger such as Dios trippy flare cuz infernal makes you wait for it to finish before you can pick it up.
stygian scales a lot better if you get more cast stones but its a lot more rng dependant bcz being stuck 1 cast is pretty bad.
robust lark
Using infernal means my stones get stuck in a boss after the first cast and then... stay stuck there for a long time, right? It feels like with stygian I get a lot more casts in consistently.
dusty vault
my main use of infernal is to hit enemies from far away, works even better with things like Eris rail/Achilles spear that boost cast dmg
other cast builds wants infernal cause their burst dmg is so high, only bosses are gonna get cast actually stuck (and the main example of this, Hera reduces the time is lodged)
robust lark
I see. Does that make stygian better for bosses and infernal better for room clearing? Or is it much more nuanced than that?
leaden whale
thats a bit of an oversimplification but kinda
yea with infernal most enemies die from 3 casts and you get ur stuff back to spam it again
dusty vault
i take stygian for cast builds that want them (trippy shot-flare or|| demeter crystal beam||) or when i want a slighty better hemes pool
robust lark
And when you're doing a cast build that isn't those long-duration ones, you still go for infernal even if it lodges on bosses for ages?
dusty vault
hera has reduced cooldown, poseidon sword can snap them back with special, ||hidden shield doesnt even lodge||
only problematic aspects could be Talos or eris but if you really want to cast focus with those you can get quick reload from hermes
robust lark
Right, and cast builds straight up rely on those special properties to begin with.
dusty vault
at common it drops the time from 15 to 5s (and also stacks with Hera lol)
robust lark
Its not sensible to go for cast builds without taking those weapons, like
dusty vault
for most of the non cast aspects i just use them as support
be it to open a duo boon, or help with AoE
robust lark
Right, thank you!
tawdry vapor
i use casts like i use special attacks, when i need them to apply effects, otherwise i use attack and dash attacks mostly
leaden whale
stygian is decent for support casts, like you have aprhodite cast, with infernal it would lodged, but with stygian you get to cast it once it a while just for the debuff
polar finch
one helpful part about stygian soul is hermes has one less cast boon in his pool and his legendary for stygian is much better for non cast builds since its a global damage increase though good luck getting it
simple vector
im in elysium for the first time im playing a super high damage special build with spear
should i go pom or zeus athen trial room
my thunder flourish is lvl 4 and my static discharge is level 2
leaden whale
trial room unless you have something with really good pom scaling which you dont
robust lark
If you think you can beat the gods safely, always that. Two boons are too good to pass up.
simple vector
i have these
dusty vault
jolted def has good pom scaling
tho yeah trial isnt bad, another zeus boon like D.strike is great
simple vector
divine dash, swift flourish, jolted, adnthunder fourish
i also only have 25 health left lol
dusty vault
if you dont have DDs rn take athena for a hopefull refill
dusty vault
trials give you both boons
robust lark
You get both 🙂
dusty vault
just one after you win the room
leaden whale
yea the caviat is the one you dont chose gets mad at you and attacks u during that fight
and then gives you their reward at the end
dusty vault
voltage probably, just to open the legendary
leaden whale
yea zues has a really good one
worse case senario all your lightning effects do +40 dmg
dusty vault
nice
robust lark
Very cool 🙂 now do that again!
leaden whale
Using Thanatos keepsake can be a good way to practice to mitigate damage
balmy kraken
I have one legendary boon, how do I get it to show up on pool of purging ?
polar finch
I have one legendary boon, how do I get it to show up on pool of purging ?
its just rng. the more boons you have, the less likely the legendary will show up. you can use rerolls if you have fated persuasion unlocked
polar finch
if your mirror is maxed it shouldnt be that hard
viscid notch
Yea it’s not too bad
balmy kraken
if your mirror is maxed it shouldnt be that hard
That requires a lot of darkness.
Just started playing 2 days back
polar finch
yeah then best to not worry about it
gusty coral
hello guys
i have a question
so
guan yu needs 5 aspect to be unlocked right
if i have 2 aspects unlocked in the same weapon will it be counted?
or do i need to unlock just 1 apsect each weapon?
restive portal
2 in one weapon is fine.
gray haven
Its not sensible to go for cast builds without taking those weapons, like
Nah, Cast builds are good on anything. Of course if you're planning to do a Cast build, it makes sense to use a Cast Aspect like Achilles or Poseidon. But if you're struggling with any weapon, it can be a good idea to just do a Cast build and essentially sidestep your problems with the weapon that way.
@gusty coral hidden aspect names are spoilers in this channel, by the way. 
gray haven
trial room unless you have something with really good pom scaling which you dont
Static Discharge has really good pom scaling.
It's fine here, just gotta use spoiler tags for that or call it "hidden spear" or something.
gusty coral
ouu okay
so i the hidden rail
to unlock it
i need to invest 5 thingies
so is it considered investing when i unlock a single aspect?
fpr example
i uncloked it with 3 and then i need to spend 5 more?
gray haven
Just need to invest 2 more.
gusty coral
or ill unlcok it by 3 and then ill spend like a few so it will be 5
ouuuu
so it is considered as investing when u unlock it
gray haven
Right.
gusty coral
ouu ty ty
so i just need to talk to papa lightning?
until the phrase comes through?
gray haven
Yeah. Assuming you got the hidden spear already.
gray haven
Just reveal.
gray haven
Give Up doesn't change the seed. So if you see him in the first chamber, it's gonna be the same dialogue every time.
I'd just do normal runs for practice anyway and you'll get it when you get it.
Earn some Titan Blood etc.
gray haven
Lady Aphrodite guides me. 
leaden whale
Talking about
What are her boons most useful for? I just actually kinda don't find them that tempting anymore
grave storm
General survival, any attack that likes a +% buff, cast-loading weapons, opening up Smoldering Air (Zeus Duo)
gray haven
Bold words from somebody in sacred crocodile range.
grave storm
let the new players have a grace period
gray haven
Are you questioning the high priestess of the Temple of Aphrodite?
Lady Aphrodite has the highest % Attack and Special, highest damage lodging Cast, third-highest damage Dash (second-highest in a single hit), and highest burst damage Call out of the gate (Artemis' Aid can go higher but requires a couple poms for that).
Weak is also amazing.
Smoldering Air is busted on any aspect in any build.
Best Duo Boon for Hangover runs, too.
Weak + Life Affirmation easily carries runs.
The speedrun WR starts with the 
because of course.
quick drum
Lady Aphrodite has the highest % Attack and Special, highest damage lodging Cast...
well atleast in the case of the cast, damage isn't everything
gray haven
well atleast in the case of the cast, damage isn't everything
Tell that to the speedrun WR with Crush Shot.
quick drum
Tell that to the speedrun WR with Crush Shot. <:courte5AphroHeart:85156834734689...
thats only on Hera, which makes up for the main drawback of range (though im not refuting that crush hera is extremely strong)
sour oxide
||if you see a floating bag with a skull on it in one of his shops, then you can ""borrow"" the contents, and that'll trigger a fight, idk if you need bond with him for that because i see the bag and i've only dropped a few nectar on him||
balmy kraken
||Floating bag has some rng factor|| ?
sour oxide
||yeah its not there most of the time||
buoyant jay
I need to improve at ||dodging Hades’ attacks. I’ve only won against him once, and I’ve made it there twice over in my recent few runs but died because I barely had any defiances left and kept getting hit||
The first time I won I had full lives
Last run I had Aphrodite on attack, Dionysus on special, Zeus on dash, and Dionysus cast. I liked the combo and wish I didn’t die on the last fight
When I get the option of ares and Poseidon who do I choose, I don’t really find either of them useful
viscid notch
It depends on way too many things
There is no general answer to this, the build matters, the weapon and aspect matter etc
buoyant jay
There is no general answer to this, the build matters, the weapon and aspect mat...
I’m early in Tartarus and I’m using the bow, the only boons I have are Dionysus cast and heartbreak flourish
viscid notch
The base bow?
buoyant jay
The base bow?
Chiron bow
viscid notch
I would take Poseidon for the Dash, Ares doesnt have a lot that works with Chiron bow specifically so you usually dont pick him in this instance, Chiron likes a damage dash because of low aoe, Ares has a decent dash but Poseidon is simply stronger
If you see more Poseidon later you'd like to pick up Breaking Wave/ Razor Shoals
buoyant jay
Alright thanks
viscid notch
Yea that room can overwhelm you
whole jackal
Hi guys, I bought the game a few days ago, I'm on my 50th run ||and I still haven't been able to beat Hades himself I can usually pass through Elysium without much trouble, but once I get to Styx I almost always lose all of my death defiances to the damn satyrs or the giant rats. Does anyone have any tips on how to avoid getting poisoned or a recommend a build? Most of the time i use the Twin Fists, but sometimes i use the shield too ||
||Forgot to mention, I've encountered Hades about 6 or 7 times so far.... I can get to his second phase, but as I said, I usually have no death defiance by this point and he kills me 
||
faint umbra
this might be an obvious tip, but there are poison cure pools in every room in styx, usually multiple if the room is big - look out for them and seek them out when youre poisoned
languid bridge
I only beat Hades once and it was because I had the boon that regenerates health when you have no death defiances, so I'd run around until i was full health before attacking him again lmao
faint umbra
final boss is a spoiler here! please spoiler tag your message accordingly, ||like this||
novel crown
Hi guys, I bought the game a few days ago, I'm on my 50th run ||and I still have...
try using stubborn defiance
gives you one dd every room
viscid notch
It also heals you for less hp and requires you to have clean bossfights
Most people spend 2-3 DDs on the Champions and the Last boss
SD is not recommended but you could try anyway
whole jackal
try using stubborn defiance
how do i get that?
whole jackal
this might be an obvious tip, but there are poison cure pools in every room in s...
yeahhhh i usually try to stay close to them, but sometimes there's like a mob of enemies shooting poison together
leaden whale
Hi guys, I bought the game a few days ago, I'm on my 50th run ||and I still have...
maybe you can try using coronacht, so that you don't have to be that close to Hades
novel crown
how do i get that?
mirror
whole jackal
ohhh thanks
whole jackal
maybe you can try using coronacht, so that you don't have to be that close to Ha...
i'll try
buoyant jay
Got ||my first companion from Meg!||
gray haven
yeahhhh i usually try to stay close to them, but sometimes there's like a mob of...
You can pause the game when you get poisoned. That way it's not so hectic and you can look for a good route to the Curing Pool in peace.
buoyant jay
I hope I can win my second run soon
whole jackal
You can pause the game when you get poisoned. That way it's not so hectic and yo...
ohhhh true, i've never thought of that before, thank you
buoyant jay
So should I level my ||companion|| or wait to give this ambrosia to dusa to ||get another one?||
gray haven
You should give them all to Lady Aphrodite, and Lady Aphrodite voices Dusa, so there's your answer.
buoyant jay
You should give them all to Lady Aphrodite, and Lady Aphrodite voices Dusa, so t...
I didn’t know they shared the same voice
These are some good vas
Yeah I’ll just level it up since I’m not at the point where I can gift dusa ambrosia anyway
leaden whale
Question
Should I sell Epic quick recovery or nah? First time I actually considered picking it
brisk holly
whats the difference between levels and rarities of boons
limber palm
Rarities are stronger but harder to get/upgrade into, where levels have less of a difference but can be easily acquired
viscid notch
Question
Should I sell Epic quick recovery or nah? First time I actually conside...
It depends on a few things, epic QR is fine
peak yew
I finally beat my first run at 26 attempts last night
Now I gotta learn how to do that last boss fight without the bow lol
buoyant jay
I finally beat my first run at 26 attempts last night
That’s better than me
Way better
peak yew
I played it so safe lol, I was on crazy defense
buoyant jay
What’s the ||summon companion button|| on switch. ZR? Or R?
buoyant jay
I played it so safe lol, I was on crazy defense
It took me 53 tries
I did it with the spear
peak yew
See melee is a whole different beast on him I feel
novel crown
What’s the ||summon companion button|| on switch. ZR? Or R?
zl
peak yew
Cause anytime you’re close he can do that spin attack and destroy
I’m gonna be grinding for some of the weapon upgrades and practicing melee when I stream tonight so we’ll see how it goes lmao
buoyant jay
Yeah I’m not very good at fighting him yet. I’m trying to get 40 wins and I’m trying to get my second so it’ll be a while
peak yew
You’ll make it!
I figure that the Elysium boss fight was really hard for me at first but now I know the movements it’s prob the same for the last guy
Learning the dance n all that
buoyant jay
I’m never taking the one that ruins my range again with the bow. It blew past my defiances and made the fight with thesus annoying, started the fight with all my defiances, ended with one of them I think
Yep I’m screwed 😖
leaden whale
i wish we could see hammer options in the codex cuz idk whch ur talking about
polar finch
twin shot prolly
buoyant jay
Yeah I haven’t memorized them all yet
buoyant jay
I took it when I probably shouldn’t have
polar finch
uh 5 i think
buoyant jay
I’m probably not going to win this time
leaden whale
lvl3 is 6.67 and lvl4 is 6.15, if max is 6 then its not worth the blood for me rn
polar finch
well hera doesnt really need titan blood much anyways
leaden whale
yea tru
polar finch
just leave it lvl 4
leaden whale
its at 3 rn
grave storm
Yeah leave it there
gray haven
Hera levels speed up boss fights nicely and otherwise don't really matter.
Lv.5 is 5 seconds.
leaden whale
which soul and what build should i go for, i did infernal aphro last time
polar finch
well thats meta
languid dune
So as I try to make it through Elysium are there any recommended weapons to use against the duo boss? I always make it to them but I am never able to beat them besides that one time I did
polar finch
infernal + athena + parting shot blinding flash works too ig
well in general ranged weapons and the shield are easier
viscid notch
melee usually has a harder time against champions but other than that just practice and learn their patterns
You'll do it eventually
leaden whale
the strat is to kill the bull first but dashing under his jump attack and then kill theseus by hiding behind pillers when he throws
languid dune
Oh ok
polar finch
yeah kill asterius before bringing theseus under 50% hp
languid dune
I always go after theseus because I don’t like him
leaden whale
lol mood
languid dune
I respect asterius so I honestly wanted to leave him for last
leaden whale
Oh well
viscid notch
languid dune
Also it’s fine to use shield against champions
buoyant jay
Ughhhhhh I hate poison
Let’s try this one more time. So you can only ||summon once per boss battle, right?||
polar finch
once per encounter yeah
leaden whale
once per encounter yes
buoyant jay
Even when I healed I immediately got poisoned again
leaden whale
most of my dd losses in styx are from thinking i cured the poison and not noticing its still there lol
buoyant jay
most of my dd losses in styx are from thinking i cured the poison and not notici...
This time it was a trap, though I lost my only remaining DD to poison immediately after gaining it back via an Athena boon
I miss the build I had earlier
buoyant jay
So I should always take greater reflex when offered?
limber palm
Up to you
buoyant jay
Ok
gray haven
So I should always take greater reflex when offered?
rare+ Greatest Reflex > Hyper Sprint > common Greatest Reflex
For almost any aspect.
On Hera, I would definitely take Quick Reload over either one.
vernal roost
Hey, Im trying to get the Companion out of Megaera but she just stopped showing up in the saloon..?
I did like 10 Suicide Runs and she still doesn't show up anymore, do I have to accomplish something? I need to beet her or one of her sisters so I can talk/Nectar her again?
gray haven
Hyper Sprint + Rush Delivery is an amazing combo.
buoyant jay
Hey, Im trying to get the Companion out of Megaera but she just stopped showing ...
It’s random
Sometimes she shows up, sometimes she doesn’t
vernal roost
So Im super unlucky very cool
gray haven
Dunno, I generally don't recommend dying a lot to try to progress any story, I've genuinely never seen anyone enjoy that, they always just complain about it lol. I think it's better to just do runs and experiment with builds, try to get better at boss fights, etc., and then things will progress quite naturally anyway.
buoyant jay
So Im super unlucky very cool
Yeah. She usually shows after fighting her
But sometimes she would show up even after I fought the other sisters I think
gray haven
No idea if fighting her has any effect on her showing up or not. Don't really think so. @vivid patio would know things like that.
buoyant jay
Yeah I just assumed but it seems random
Hmm, Poseidon or Athena. I’ve got heartbreak flourish, heartbreak strike, trippy cast, and divine dash
gray haven
What aspect?
gray haven
You haven't picked up any boon from Poseidon yet this run?
buoyant jay
Nope
gray haven
Lady Athena then to not get him in your pool.
buoyant jay
Ok
gray haven
If you see Lord Zeus, get his Call.
buoyant jay
Lady Athena then to not get him in your pool.
Hmm, how’s that work? It sounds complicated
gray haven
It's not complicated. The game will show you boons from random gods until you have boons from 4+ gods. After that, you'll only see boons from the 4+ gods you already have.
Master Chaos and Lord Hermes don't count.
So if you pick up Poseidon's boon, that's 4 gods and you'll only see those 4. But he doesn't have anything in particular you'd want nor that synergizes with your build.
Zeus' Aid would be ideal because it unlocks two powerful Duo Boons and is just good on its own. Dionysus' Aid would also be great if you see that first.
buoyant jay
That’s good information to know
languid dune
So when you choose give up option you lose the progress you had on that run including the rewards?
buoyant jay
If I’m only able to get 4 gods I wouldn’t want to waste it on another god
buoyant jay
So when you choose give up option you lose the progress you had on that run incl...
Yes
viscid notch
Yes
languid dune
I just wanted theusus to know I beat him
viscid notch
If I’m only able to get 4 gods I wouldn’t want to waste it on another god
You can get more through keepsakes and sometimes rng
languid dune
I seriously don’t like that guy so I at least wanted to have it saved that I beat him
gray haven
"Give Up" just resets the game to just before you started that run.
viscid notch
But yea having more than 4 usually isn’t that great
languid dune
Oh well, I’ll try tomorrow. I did well considering I beat the champions again so maybe next run will be even better
buoyant jay
Alright next I’ll take Zeus’ keepsake
Damn I forgot
Oh well
After winning with Chiron and getting some titans blood I want to use the chaos shield next
Hopefully that happens soon
viscid notch
Chaos Shield likes levels a lot
gray haven
It's pretty much just base shield at low levels.
viscid notch
Zeus shield is very fun
And doesn’t care about levels as much
Versatile with builds too, altho it’s not so easy to handle and takes a bit of practice to get used to at first
gray haven
It's easy to do well with but hard to be optimal with.
gray haven
Nice nice. Now see if you can get his Duo Boons with Lady Aphrodite and Lord Dionysus.
I.e., take all the boons you can find from those three to get a chance at the Duo Boons.
gray haven
You can't get Duo Boons in trial rooms, actually.
buoyant jay
Ohh
gray haven
That's fine, though. They still have good boons for you.
simple vector
im playing spear with lvl 2 Athena castwhich does a good amount of damage but the rest of my kit doesnt synergize with it other then my hermes run which lets my fire off my three casts quicky
which should i pick, ambrsia, pom porage, or refreshing nectar
gray haven
Proud Bearing would be best from Lady Athena. Double Strike, Static Discharge, or Billowing Strength from Lord Zeus are all good.
gray haven
im playing spear with lvl 2 Athena castwhich does a good amount of damage but th...
Could you link a screenshot of your current build? Would be much easier that way.
gray haven
Err... upload it to something like imgur or your own private discord server (very easy and quick to set up), then just paste the link.
Discord will embed the image.
simple vector
can i just dm the screen shot
gray haven
Sure, I guess. But setting up either of those would help a lot in the future when sharing things on the server, anyway.
buoyant jay
I got scintillating feast
gray haven
Yay!
buoyant jay
Now ||thesus 😑 and the Minotaur time again….||if I can survive and replenish my death defiance maybe I’ll beat the final boss again
gray haven
You can do it!
languid dune
So exactly how does styx work whenever I enter it, like when I enter a chamber for artemis? Do I complete whatever I chose and move on?
buoyant jay
You can do it!
Well that went terribly….here’s hoping I can win somehow..I lost all my defiances to them again
The well didn’t even have a replenish death defiance so I only gave this one from Skellys lucky tooth
buoyant jay
You can do it!
Skip smouldering air?
leaden whale
So exactly how does styx work whenever I enter it, like when I enter a chamber f...
you do a few mini-fight then get ur reward at the end
the mini-fights dont count as encounters for butterfly and stuff
buoyant jay
I might take it just because I don’t think I’m going to win anyway for the sake of the list
viscid notch
Why would you skip it
viscid notch
Smoldering Air is the duo you’re looking for lol
languid dune
the mini-fights dont count as encounters for butterfly and stuff
Wait then what will I need to do to get through ceberus?
leaden whale
theres a chance at the end of each tunnel to get his food
gray haven
The well didn’t even have a replenish death defiance so I only gave this one fro...
Evergreen Acorn would be better than Lucky Tooth if you have that.
leaden whale
once u get it u can choose to do more or fight [REDACTED]
gray haven
Skip smouldering air?
Smoldering Air is one of the best boons in the game.
leaden whale
once u give cerberus his food u cant go in tunnels anymore so hold onto until ur ready
viscid notch
No
leaden whale
spoiler that
viscid notch
languid dune
Aight, so one last question: I've been keeping the admadant arrow for a long time, when should I switch keepsakes?
grave storm
when you beat a boss
grave storm
Unless you have a really good reason to want a boosted rarity boon from her (very unlikely)
languid dune
Which keepsake is recommended for the champions in elysium?
leaden whale
i recommend always starting each run with coin purse then switching to a god whose boon you want after furies
buoyant jay
Evergreen Acorn would be better than Lucky Tooth if you have that.
Never used it before. I’ll try it out next run
languid dune
Charon give the coin purse right?
leaden whale
Hypnos
simple vector
should i unlock the gloves or the 10 key upgrade on teh mirror first?
leaden whale
gloves is a fast paced melee weapon if u think ull like that playstyle get it first
leaden whale
Dionysus or Zeus on strike are good cuz the fists attack fast
viscid notch
Doom does more than Hangover usually
But yea it’s either of those three, they can all do really well in their respective builds
buoyant jay
Time to die to the final boss again 😞
leaden whale
Time to die to the final boss again 😞
dw hes easier than the sus and minotaur
gray haven
should i unlock the gloves or the 10 key upgrade on teh mirror first?
No point in upgrading your mirror yet if you don't have the Darkness for it anyway.
buoyant jay
dw hes easier than the sus and minotaur
Yeah but my problem is keeping my defiances from the previous fight. So I only have two tries at him. I beat him once but I still struggle at doing damage to him and dodging his attacks
gray haven
Just focus on practice and doing a clean fight, you'll get there.
leaden whale
use ur summon on the champs
robust lark
Later you'll look back after winning 10 times in a row and wonder why you ever t...
This. It's true.
From having hell of a time, I'm now having a hell of a time. Pun intended.
buoyant jay
I’m going to do 4 more runs today
Then I might consider trying out another aspect
If I don’t win this before then
Fated persuasion up by one dice
Need two more now
leaden whale
i died on ||hades final phase : (||
gray haven
That's also spoilers.
leaden whale
That's also spoilers. <:dusa:522248771409543188>
:((((
grave storm
The existence of an end boss is sort of also a spoiler
buoyant jay
This time I’ve got Artemis, Athena, Aphrodite, and I’m looking for Dionysus. Any good duo boons?
gray haven
Why are you looking for him?
gray haven
The existence of an end boss is sort of also a spoiler
Not as per the rules since "End Boss Onward" is right there in the rules.
buoyant jay
Why are you looking for him?
To get trippy shot. I got it
buoyant jay
If I don’t win today at least I learned some new stuff
gray haven
To get trippy shot. I got it
Trippy Shot has synergy with Hangover, Lightning, and ||Lady Demeter||. Hangover has synergy with Weak, crits, Doom, and Trippy Shot.
cloud jewel
I'm having a crazy good run
this is the second time I've ever beaten Megaera
and I beat the Hydra on the first time I'd ever fought him
I only used up my Death Defiance and Skelly's Tooth in the third area after both of those
oooh
I think the run is about to die
I think this is the 3rd Area boss fight
from what I hear it's a huge difficulty spike
robust lark
Good going! If you can get there once, you can get there again
cloud jewel
ok I'm proud of that attempt
first time ever fighting Theseus and Minotaur
killed Theseus and got half of Minotaur's health
I had no revives
and got 3 quarters of the fight
I will happily take that
gray haven
I only used up my Death Defiance and Skelly's Tooth in the third area after both...
In Elysium and onwards, I suggest taking the Evergreen Acorn rather than the Lucky Tooth. It'll help a lot more in the boss fights.
cloud jewel
I don't have it!
I've been saving all of my nectar for the olympian gods
now they've all got 1 nectar each so I have all of their gifts
now I'm gonna start buying all of the others
I don't know who's going to give me what, I don't really care
I'll just find out as I go along
gray haven
Gotcha.
cloud jewel
Elysium in general is a huge step up from Tartarus and Asphodel
enemies have far more health
and hit harder
and the gimmick of everyone having souls to crush is annoying
gray haven
Elysium really tests your build, you could say.
cloud jewel
By the way, about Stubborn Defiance
by 1 per Chamber, does that mean 1 per every room or 1 per general area (so 1 for Tartarus, 1 for Asphodel etc)
gray haven
1 per room.
gray haven
It also means you only have 1 in boss fights.
cloud jewel
soon I'll be able to wipe my upgrades and buy that instead
slowly build back the other upgrades
worth it
gray haven
You're better off with 3 DDs.
cloud jewel
you reckon?
oh and also
I like that there are alt versions of mirror buffs (the green ones)
but literally all 6 of the ones I've unlocked are significantly worse
why use them lol
buoyant jay
Is there a guide for builds for new players
gray haven
You can find my Newbie Build Guide in the pins here. It's not very deep, but it helps you get started, hopefully.
cloud jewel
how much does the third DD cost to buy
because 1 is like 20 or something
2 is 500
how much is 3
gray haven
but literally all 6 of the ones I've unlocked are significantly worse
Well, you also just suggested Stubborn Defiance was broken and better than Death Defiances, and that's definitely not the case. Stubborn Defiance is more of an endgame thing.
I think the third one is 1k.
cloud jewel
well Stubborn Defiance looked better but you've said it's not
so all 6 of the green upgrades are worse than the red ones
gray haven
My point is that you're probably better off holding off your judgment until you have a lot more knowledge and experience.
buoyant jay
Jeez they’re really forcing ||Demeter|| on me
gray haven
One thing I've always liked to do that I think can teach you a lot is when you think something looks bad, take it and figure out a way to make the most of it.
Glad you caught the spoiler before I could say anything.
buoyant jay
I want to try out a lot of combos
This time I’ll try to go for heartbreak rend and pressure points
One day I’ll win again..one day
gray haven
how do I ||find her?||
You need to reach the final boss. Hence why it's considered a spoiler here.
gray haven
This time I’ll try to go for heartbreak rend and pressure points
What weapon?
buoyant jay
What weapon?
I’m still using the Chiron bow
Should I consider switching or?? I’ve got all the bounties except Styx, but I still haven’t won with it yet.
Then again, it’d go worse so
That’s a bad idea
And 2 of my gods are Aphrodite and Demeter. I only have 2 more to go
gray haven
Heartbreak Strike + Deadly Flourish is the combo you'd want for Heart Rend on Chiron.
What level is your Chiron Aspect now?
buoyant jay
Only lvl 1. I need more titans blood
gray haven
If it's not at least level 4, I'd suggest going for Drunken Flourish instead.
Yeah, definitely Drunken Flourish then.
buoyant jay
Ok
gray haven
And put a lot of poms on that.
buoyant jay
Does selling a boon affect the god pool?
grave storm
No
buoyant jay
I have such bad luck with the options
buoyant jay
If it's not at least level 4, I'd suggest going for Drunken Flourish instead.
Should I give the acorn a try? Without it I have 2 defiances, with lucky tooth I have 3
Eh I’ll just go with lucky tooth this time to see if I could win
Just in case I need it for ||dad||. No big Deal
I tended to use it as a crutch
robust lark
Are you able to bring all your defiances to the final boss in tact?
buoyant jay
Are you able to bring all your defiances to the final boss in tact?
Not really I only did once
That was my first win
So I guess I made the right choice
cloud jewel
so I've just been introduced to weapon aspects
why do like
none of them look very appealing
other than the shield ones
because shield is the best weapon
robust lark
They really change up the way the weapon fights 🙂 can only tell if you like it or not after using them.
cloud jewel
kind of hate that I need to buy them before trying them
titan's blood isn't exactly easy to come by
robust lark
Fair. Luckily you don't need them to escape either.
polar finch
kind of hate that I need to buy them before trying them
well you can test them out on skelly then quit to menu and itll refund your blood as long as you didnt move to a different chamber
can also start a run and exit it with give up instead of either winning or dying and youll get refunded too
cloud jewel
ok so like
I tried the shield aspect that throws bonus shields after specials
and it... didn't throw bonus shields?
leaden whale
its after rush
cloud jewel
ah sorry
leaden whale
use special after rush
cloud jewel
ok I've done it
uh
yeah nah idk it doesn't feel good
it doesn't seem to ricochet like the regular shield does
probably not worth it?
gray haven
Just in case I need it for ||dad||. No big Deal
Acorn is better for that fight than the Lucky Tooth.
polar finch
well if you have a ton of damage resistance tooth can be better
polar finch
quite powerful with zeus boons
cloud jewel
combined with some tasty speed improvements or something
leaden whale
aspect of zues is great ye
cloud jewel
that could be good
leaden whale
hidden is so fun to play
polar finch
swift flourish only increases the travel speed and rate you can send out and return the disc
cloud jewel
still though
making that faster
useful
sorry
did a typo
the last letter of "useful" was a K by accident
and that was enough to warn me?
polar finch
bot funny
maiden ruin
bot kinda stupid
cloud jewel
I wonder if all it looks for is a letter U between F and K
let's test this
YEP
okay
um
hmm
looks like I'm not allowed to talk about the japanese city of
Fu
ku
shi
ma
that's annoying
well I've been warned for swearing in two cases where I didn't actually swear
if warnings are recorded, is it possible to like
remove them?
I didn't actually swear so
buoyant jay
I have almost 70 escapes attempts I hope in 140 escape attempts I can win..at least four more times… 😞
I’m getting tired of using the bow, should I get some titans blood and try clearing my second run with something else? If so what aspect should i use?
polar finch
zag bow, hera, zeus shield, and achilles are pretty good for low investment
eris too ig or hidden shield
cloud jewel
I had max 21 health because of a chaos boon
leaden whale
zag and hidden sword also dont need much investment to be good
cloud jewel
died in the trash miniboss in tartarus that's a giant crystal
hate that fight
got 11 health back
from a death defiance
feels bad man
polar finch
well zag sword is kinda just useless
leaden whale
lol yea that thing is annoying
polar finch
unless funny cursed slash strats ig
buoyant jay
unless funny cursed slash strats ig
I want to try that someday when I’m a better player it looked insane in a video
polar finch
you mainly want to be dash striking with sword and attack speed does nothing for that
well once youre a better player cursed slash is useless
buoyant jay
Oh
leaden whale
yea cursed flurry is so brain dead lol
u can just hold left click and always be at full hp
polar finch
also does nothing for dash striking
so if youre playing sword properly all it is is 60% health reduction with no benefit
buoyant jay
Yeah that sucks
I’d just die
If you’re really good then you can do it but I’m not
polar finch
not really
it makes sword extremely easy to play
with the right boons you can just face tank everything
leaden whale
so if youre playing sword properly all it is is 60% health reduction with no ben...
thats a huge over exaggeration, especially in this channel
cursed slash is decent here
polar finch
well proper sword usage is pretty much exclusively dash striking
maiden ruin
yeah you dont really use the main attack
polar finch
and specialing
buoyant jay
That’s probably what I was doing wrong then
I’ll try playing with the sword tomorrow then to practice
Or the shield
I bet my last clear will be with the rail
polar finch
base sword is pretty bad so if youre going for a win id avoid it
buoyant jay
base sword is pretty bad so if youre going for a win id avoid it
I think I only have aspect of zag on it so far
polar finch
rail or shield are probably the best base weapons
buoyant jay
Ok. I’ll probably do the shield then
polar finch
you can get decent damage with the shield with zeus special and static discharge or if you get the charged shot hammer and something like aphrodite attack
polar finch
zeus on special
polar finch
athena dash/call is always good. tidal dash is nice if youre using a lot of special/charged shot. dio call also good. artemis good support and works on attack especially with hunters mark
buoyant jay
Thanks
languid dune
Tomorrow I am gonna fight the champions again because I lost my save data, but do I basically keep switching boons everytime I get one until I encounter a boom I could work with in a build
Planning on making use of an Aegis shield build
peak yew
:OOO
oh whoops
Just beat the last boss fight with the sword on my second melee attempt
shrewd current
hi
languid dune
Hello
grave storm
hi hi
peak yew
Alright so I'm 2/28 wins:attempts ratio. Not terrible
gray haven
Tomorrow I am gonna fight the champions again because I lost my save data, but ...
If you accidentally gave up, steps to recover a save are in #h1-tech-fixes.
Doesn't work on console, unfortunately.
peak yew
Poseidon call upgraded a few times is absolutely goated in the last fight
I got max gauge twice and was hitting 650 every impact > tried to get 4-6 impacts
Was at 7hp no lives left, boss was at 1 hit
misty fractal
I prefer Dionysus call since Poseidons kind of hard to control