yeah omg
#h1-for-new-players
leaden whale
Sorry are curse words not allowed in here
leaden whale
Oh okay I apologize
dim quiver
dont worry
no-one saw except the bot
i dont think anyones offended :D
you were saying...
leaden whale
So far I hate the enemies with the purple lasers and the ones who throw bombs
I just got old spiked collar
dim quiver
So far I hate the enemies with the purple lasers and the ones who throw bombs
they are annoying true
dim quiver
I just got old spiked collar
my first keepsake too
want some tips for the brimstones and the ones that throw bombs?
leaden whale
Sure
The bomb guys are actually easy to avoid I Just dash when they are about to throw the bomb
leaden whale
The purple lasers are harder to avoid in my opinion
dim quiver
for the lazer guys tho, you have to run up and kill them quickly, because it takes a bit for them to charge up and start lazering
or, if you arent quick enough, you can always hide behind a pillar and pick off other enemies first
leaden whale
I just met the first boss. Woah
gray haven
Brimstones have bad tracking, just circle them.
Works whether it's one or a whole bunch of them.
leaden whale
@gray haven I met the first boss. It was hard.
grave storm
dash perpendicular to the direction of her dash attack
if you can't get rid of the bullets in time, run away from her so that they're more spread out
leaden whale
i cant seem to beat the minotaur
he is too strong
plus i think i invented a new build
vartha
vartha dash strike with daedulus upgrade to hit 4 times
with artemis on attack
very op
pom the artemis boon 3 times
and get ready to destroy theseus and minator on first try
slow ferry
Artemis attack can be really strong
But generally the 3rd boss is where you have to really start watching boss patterns
gray haven
Serrated Point does three hits, not four.
Those three poms would do more on Heartbreak Strike than Deadly Strike, plus you'd get to apply Weak.
But Deadly Strike damage is decent.
Also, m sorry but Serrated Point + Deadly Strike is not a new discovery or invention. 
leaden whale
XD
just felt like a whole new level of op for me
sooo heartbreak strike would be a better matc
?
gray haven
@leaden whale Heartbreak Strike scales better with poms and rarity and applies Weak. Deadly Strike scales better with other sources of +% damage for your Attack or Dash-Strikes (or global). They're both high damage.
If you have just the Attack boon, the hammer upgrade, some poms on your Attack, and nothing else, Heartbreak Strike will do much better damage than Deadly Strike.
Especially at higher rarity.
But that changes when you add things like Dash-Strike bonus damage from Master Chaos and stuff.
leaden whale
ok i used the spear and got dadelus with sreated point i had aphrodite keepsake and 4 poms im going to battle theseus
urban light
hi, any tips for the third boss fight while using the bow?
slow ferry
ooh, that's a toughie
you're gonna wanna know what the enemy is gonna do 2 seconds ahead
and probably you're gonna wanna learn to dash strike with bow
which is to say, when you dash right before charging bow, you charge the bow much faster and deal less damage
generally for 3rd boss you need to learn to dodge that spear throw first, and then the rest of the atks
slow ferry
they're a lot more predictable than they look
thick bluff
hey so i want to get merciful end and ik i need curse of pain and agony along with the athena dash and flourish but the problem is that the curse of pain boon and the athenas flourish boon both ate a special attack boon so i can only hold one. to find the boon can i only just have 1 or do i somehow need to get both
chilly briar
u dont need flourish
u just need 1 core doom inflicting boon
and one core athena boon
thick bluff
and divine dash right?
chilly briar
core boons are attack,special,cast,dash,call
thick bluff
and also do i have to do anything to unlock duo boons
chilly briar
Isn't ME only attack and special?
i think maybe you thought that because only attack and special have doom inflicting boons
alpine ridge
no I'm right, just checked the wiki
you specifically need both an Athena or Ares Attack and Special Boon
Athena dash won't give you ME
odd shoal
They removed divine dash as a pre rec because it was too broken
alpine ridge
^
odd shoal
being hard to get all the boons in your build is the main thing that keeps it in check
thick bluff
@chilly briar thankyou
chilly briar
i gotchu
slow ferry
the reason most ME guides mention divine dash is because divine dash is what makes the combo good, to be clear
you're able to activate ME much faster with the dash
leaden whale
i destroyed that noob theseus
but i got killed in the temple of styx
stupid satyrs
why is it soo harddd
slow ferry
Yeah that fourth area is rough at first... tight corridors and punishing enemies
Satyrs are at the top of my kill priority list, and their spitting sound haunts my dreams
But you will get better at it
pastel cipher
it's first time reaching the End Boss onwards ^_^
dim quiver
huh
pastel cipher
edited to be completely clear
dim quiver
i remember someone asking me to not spoil something about the satyrs
pastel cipher
ahh, that might be that person not wanting any spoilers at all which is valid 
dim quiver
guys, should I get an epic crush shot, a rare aphrodites call, or a rare sweet surrender( I have the aphro attack already so thats equally good as the rest)
wouldn't usually ask about something so trivial, but I'm having a hard time deciding
pastel cipher
what weapon/aspect (if any) are you using?
dim quiver
though I regret it ive got hades aspect on spear
pastel cipher
either sweet surrender or aphrodite's call I'd say
dim quiver
alright
leaden whale
I must admit when I took on the first boss I wasn’t paying much attention to her patterns and behavior I just kept trying to dodge her
The attack she does with the huge circles is annoying
leaden whale
Not sure these circles envelop around each other and I kept trying to dodge them
How are you supposed to fight this boss along with the other enemies
Pretty tough
dim quiver
eh just focus the boss, but avoid the minion's attacks as like a second priority
leaden whale
Ok I will
You think I’m doing decent if I reached the first boss on my third attempt?
I thought you could equip more than one keepsake at once?
dim quiver
guys would pressure point be good with support fire?
dim quiver
I thought you could equip more than one keepsake at once?
no sadly
dim quiver
You think I’m doing decent if I reached the first boss on my third attempt?
thats epic :)
dim quiver
guys would pressure point be good with support fire?
its that or exit wounds
leaden whale
Thanks I’m trying to take all the advice I’ve gotten into account
I also just unlocked the shield weapon. What does it mean if the weapon is glowing purple?
leaden whale
I also just unlocked the shield weapon. What does it mean if the weapon is glowi...
It means you get 20% extra darkness if you use that weapon on your next attempt.
dim quiver
ohhh
dim quiver
boi i got to river styx with 3 dds, lost two of them to heckin satyrs wtf
I was so unlucky with getting the dung for cerberus, went through 2 whole other routes first
gray haven
The attack she does with the huge circles is annoying
Stand still when she does that. Wait for the circles to appear. If they appear around you, don't move. If they appear underneath you, move and dash away from the circles.
If you just run and dash without waiting, you'll often just end up dashing right into her AOE or panic and dash into a trap and stuff.
You can also keep moving and only dash when the circles appear. Just make sure you don't dash before you need to.
Mashing dash recklessly and then not being able to dash out of attacks when you need to because your dashes are on cooldown is a common beginner mistake.
tame flame
Hey all! Anyone able to answer an epilogue question? I'll need to DM you as I don't have the symbol to spoiler mark a message on my keyboard.
grave storm
can you copypaste it?
Here: ||
tame flame
can you copypaste it?
Here: ||
Thank you
|| So I've maxed out all of the gods but the epilogue hasn't started yet. What am I missing?||
tame flame
you have maxed out **all** of the god?
Sorry so I physically can't give them that yet
So I'm wondering what I need to do so that I can start giving them ambrosia because I've got a ton of it
chilly briar
oh there will just be some dialogue that allows u to give them ambrosia
u just have to wait
tame flame
oh there will just be some dialogue that allows u to give them ambrosia
Any idea how long? I've hit 60 hours and I hit the first ending 40 hours ago.
It's been a long haul. Enjoying it a lot but a little burnt out now.
But I want to see the end.
safe niche
breh
u should just google if ur not too sure
not sure if this is accurate but it should help
tame flame
u should just google if ur not too sure
I like to ask because it feels more organic/like I'm still discovering things if that makes sense?
chilly briar
fair
tame flame
Reading a guide has always felt like it's spoilt a game for me if that makes sense?
I know it can be annoying for people though
safe niche
hmm its understandable i guess
well cant really mention how to get the epilogue here since it would be a spoiler lol
thick bluff
what do the little skulls next to the doors icon mean they sometimes also have arrows
faint umbra
thick bluff
thankyou
modest raptor
Cool chart, nice to see all that info in one place
thick bluff
I HAVE THE FLIPPING RATS SOOO MUCH AAAAAAAAAA
all of my runs to beat hades have been stoped bye the stupid rats
i dont enjoy rats
hazy gyro
Bahshdhdhs they're a real pain
thick bluff
sniff
gray haven
I HAVE THE FLIPPING RATS SOOO MUCH AAAAAAAAAA
You might wanna change that message since evading the swear filter like that isn't permitted in the server.
thick bluff
oh mb
gray haven
Happens a lot. It's not like it's explicitly stated anywhere.
noble mist
does anyone have any tips for farming resources? specifically, im trying to get ||resource director|| with nectar, and some more darkness for the final mirror upgrade and the nyx favor
slow ferry
If you beat a boss you've already beaten, you'll get a big pile of darkness
Especially if you have dark thirst on
odd shoal
Use Poseidon’s keepsake so he will end up in your god pool and you can get oceans bounty
And take all the chaos gates you see for three bonus gems and darkness rewards
dim quiver
it seems the broken spearpoint is just like, a slightly better version of holy shield from athena? what makes it so good?
dim quiver
wait what
leaden whale
I just tried out the aegis shield and it’s not for me I like the bow better
dim quiver
hey it takes a bit to understand it's strengths :)
slow ferry
nah im confusing different mechanics sorry
dim quiver
come back to it
leaden whale
The renovations thing is the plunder lesser worth making?
slow ferry
it unlocks troves, which are nice
digital oar
😭
slow ferry
you'll get more resources that way
digital oar
so close
thorny leaf
I just tried out the aegis shield and it’s not for me I like the bow better
I like Poseidon Attack with the shield.
dim quiver
yeah, just fling them across the room
YOOO JUST GOT EXCLUSIVE ACCESS IN TARTARUS
bouta be a fun run
i mean ngl that was my plan, but it worked
dim quiver
my god its been going well
everything's purple
almost did the elysium battle hitless
alright the big question:
evergreen acorn
or
lucky tooth(4 dds)
for the last boss-fight
im going to go with evergreen acorn
one other thing, more just curious, does winter harvest work on bosses?
slow ferry
Winter harvest works on bosses, there's even a special animation for it
Acorn is better for the last boss
narrow rapids
is this a controller or mouse and keyboard game
vague stump
so far ive been playing with a keyboard and mouse, so idk if you can use a controller in the game, but i know that steam supports the ability to bind keys to controller inputs if you want to do that
vague stump
its basicly topdown so only with like ranged wepons i have noticed you need some precision, but the game has aim assist
narrow rapids
gotcha, thanks
sly vigil
do you need precision
nope, the aim assist in this game is quite good. and it's slightly easier to mash attack on controller for certain weapons.
but either mkb or controller is totally fine.
vague stump
is this a controller or mouse and keyboard game
the game has a controller vibration setting, so yes it supports controller
sly vigil
yeah i mean the main menu literally says controller is recommended
brisk kelp
The controller mbk tradeoff is control vs precision
vague stump
yeah i mean the main menu literally says controller is recommended
oh lol
i prefer a keyboard and mouse
been using it for over 10 years and i have barely used controllers so its easier for me to use a keyboard
narrow rapids
gers
dim quiver
they melt you bro
but i i had a lot harder time with ||hades|| lol
also u gotta censor boss name
leaden whale
||hades||
radiant radish
Hi, I've been trying to get nyx to talk to me about sisyphus' contract but I've exhausted all conversations with her. How do I get her to talk to md about it? Have I done something wrong?
pale hollow
You need a good relationship with both I think
vague stump
how well is god mode supposed to protect you? when i have tried it it seams like i still take the same amount of damage
pale hollow
It gives you damage reduction every time you die I believe
vague stump
ah
pale hollow
So it won't instantly get easier, but it'll gradually adjust the "difficulty" until it's easy enough for you to win
radiant radish
You need a good relationship with both I think
With sisyphus im maxxed and with nyx I'm at 4
gray haven
God mode caps at 80% damage reduction and starts at.. 20%, I think? If you select it in the boon menu, it should show you the current value.
I think you need to talk to some other people about Sisyphus before you can get that conversation. Just keep doing runs, giving Nectar, and talking to everyone with a ! above their head.
That's usually the solution for 99% of "how do I get x conversation?" questions.
radiant radish
Ok thanks
leaden whale
So essentially cthonic keys are just simply scrap for nectar at this point?
grave storm
after you get all weapons and mirror buffs? yeah I think so
not sure if (post credits) ||any of the themes need keys though||
leaden whale
after you get all weapons and mirror buffs? yeah I think so
Alright gotcha, thank you
leaden whale
not sure if (post credits) ||any of the themes need keys though||
Ok gotcha
grave storm
not sure if (post credits) ||any of the themes need keys though||
ok yeah ||one of them needs 200 keys but it's just cosmetic||
leaden whale
ok yeah ||one of them needs 200 keys but it's just cosmetic||
Ok, ||only one of the skins requires keys?||
grave storm
yeah and a handful of other post-credits ||cosmetic things cumulatively cost 100 keys, but the other stuff needed to unlock them will be the limiting factor||
honest wasp
when can i give ||demeter|| nectar?
like is it available ||before my first edcape||?
slow ferry
||demeter starts giving you boons after you reach the last boss||
||you don't have to beat the boss, just need to get there||
honest wasp
i got the boons from her, but i can't give nectar yet?
wanton crest
You can whenever she shows up
leaden whale
yeah and a handful of other post-credits ||cosmetic things cumulatively cost 100...
Ok gotcha thank you for your help
leaden whale
When I use the punishing sweep with the spear, an icon appears over the head of those I hit. What does this mean? If I hit them again, do I do the bonus damage?
maiden ruin
Enemies with that take extra damage from your special and attack
The amount of extra damage they take depends on the level of the aspect
mighty pelican
does athena's sure footing boon affect the lava in asphodel?
leaden whale
Also, will we be able to reroll Daedalus upgrades?
slow ferry
Rerolling hammers would be too op
maiden ruin
does athena's sure footing boon affect the lava in asphodel?
Yeah
mighty pelican
ok
slow ferry
The thing is, there are only 9 hammer upgrades so if you could reroll hammers you could get the best hammers every time
Too reliable
pulsar frigate
does athena's sure footing boon affect the lava in asphodel?
you can stand on it longer without being damaged, and when you do start getting damaged it's reduced
odd shoal
Nice
gray haven
you can stand on it longer without being damaged, and when you do start getting ...
That's because damage from the first few magma "hits" is rounded down to 0.
fallow isle
this game is so horny
slow ferry
It just has a bunch of pretty people
odd shoal
Everyone is purposely made hot to stay accurate to the source material
leaden whale
I CAN BEAT IT WITH LITTERALLY ONLY 2 BUILDS
NOTHING ELSE
||CORONATCH IS WEAK AGAINST that mf MINOTAUR AND THESEUS PLS GVE ME AN EAY BUILD FOR BEATING THE GAME||
i beat once with sheild once with fist
||i wanna see my mom again and again until i get the true ending or something||
thorny leaf
Just get better with the other weapons lmao
slow ferry
bow is a hard weapon to learn, for sure
slow ferry
bow is SO STRONG once you get a feel for it
thorny leaf
Spear is also pretty good with Poseidon Boons and Sea Storm
it just deals SO MUCH DAMAGE
slow ferry
spear is great for being able to hit someone relatively fast while standing on the other side of the room
thorny leaf
Honestly, while I do appreciate the AOE attack of the spear, I’d rather just spam the regular attack
slow ferry
understandable
anyway yeah don't worry if you're bad at the bow at first
takes practice
chilly briar
bow hidden aspect is bussin
and hera
i dont like the spear
its too
linear
spin yes but u just die while charging it up
wacky stuff
thorn marsh
are there any other good spear builds besides explosive launcher and achilles cast?
leaden whale
zues special on chaos sheild i nutty
dim quiver
zeus special on blitz shield won me a run
that thing melted everything up until after elysium
dim quiver
i dont like the spear
i'm halfway through a run with spear rn, maybe this is bad but Ive got achiles aspect, artemis special, poseidon attack
chilly briar
achilles aspect is the only viable one imo
dim quiver
i just rush through people, possibly doing crit damage, and then I dash strike around them
chilly briar
mhm
dim quiver
spear dash strike is satisfying but feels kinda weak
chilly briar
i like that any damage can do crit damage boon
spear as a whole feels weak to me but the range is wildin
u can snipe enemies
dim quiver
that one daedalus upgrade that makes the attack longer range makes it feel like a short-bow
dim quiver
i like that any damage can do crit damage boon
pressure points or something right?
i like using it with support-fire
safe niche
spear as a whole feels weak to me but the range is wildin
u have to use dash attacks otherwise spear will be weak
assuming u dont have flurry jab
frail escarp
if i skip a room that has deadalus hammer, will i still get 2 hammers by the end of the run or is it always only 2 possible rooms?
lean wedge
is tisiphone chanced to appear or after 10 attempts or something?
dim quiver
uh
wdym
im pretty sure at first you only get maegara, then afterward like 50% maegara 25% tisiphony or electo
did you just get tisiphone for the first time?
lean wedge
because i just got tisiphone
lean wedge
did you just get tisiphone for the first time?
yes
dim quiver
lol wow the timing
lean wedge
after like 10 attempts
dim quiver
yeah probably first ten attempts are gauranteed maegara
lean wedge
because in this attempt hades talks to me about where i belong
and in the room after that he talks about how tisiphone failed him
dim quiver
thats just normal if you beat her lol
lean wedge
also how many chambers are there
safe niche
all of the weapons are viable so u should pick whichever one u like
leaden whale
how many tries does it normal take to escape the underwolrd?
ivory ocean
it varies a lot by player. ive seen as low as 14 and as big as over 70, but there's still variations within that
ivory ocean
for sure! dying is a big part of the game, so you're not losing out by not getting it done right away
random jasper
Mine was in the 90’s 😅
Yeah. Everytime you die you can get stronger by buying stuff at the house so
leaden whale
still not done it yet
random jasper
No worries. Everyone goes in their own pace
random jasper
I was stuck at the hydra for a longgggg while too
You’ll get there
Just keep trying and have fun!
leaden whale
you too
random jasper
Try different weapons and boons and go for it!
leaden whale
im using the fist or gloves or whatever they are called again
dim quiver
how many tries does it normal take to escape the underwolrd?
i took 40
leaden whale
cool and good
dim quiver
cool and good
leaden whale
and btw, how do I make hades proud of me?
dim quiver
i wish i knew
leaden whale
cuz in the codex it looks like I can get hearts to him or for him I dunno
and I could give him one gift
random jasper
You’ll get there if you keep playing 😉
leaden whale
thanks pal
random jasper
Np!
hollow hatch
any advice on a fresh file speedrun
leaden whale
Does boiling blood stack for each stone lodged?
Also, it doesn't seem as though boiling blood is reflected when training on Skelly...
hollow hatch
i dont think it stacks
and it is reflected on skelly i think
cause you do more damage with the aspect of zagreus of stygius if you want to experiment
dim quiver
boiling blood doesn't stack no
hollow hatch
i just checked it is reflected on skelly
leaden whale
Thanks
gray haven
any advice on a fresh file speedrun
Sword guide: https://www.speedrun.com/hades/guide/0oado
Bow guide: https://www.speedrun.com/hades/guide/ha5fo
Both for fresh file.
leaden whale
For things that increase attack damage, does that count for your dash strike as well? Or is the dash strike treated as a different thing entirely from an 'attack'?
maiden ruin
Yeah attack buffs also buff dash strikes
rapid torrent
what about vice versa?
maiden ruin
No
leaden whale
Yeah attack buffs also buff dash strikes
Ok thank you for clarifying
slow ferry
Oh that God is a spoiler btw
Generally, gods that give you % damage increases are better with weapons that hit really hard
Specifically, I had a good time with that god on hidden sword
dim quiver
oh true
pale hollow
Fast hitters work too if you go for ||arctic burst|| I think it's called,
But hidden sword with that god slaps, I agree
maiden ruin
You can also use hidden gun and use her attack on it and get ||arctic blast|| with it
The damage is pretty good
dim quiver
hidden aspect spear, or hidden aspect shield? i have a choice
i feel the shield aspect is better but I can already win with it pretty easily so it'd be a less valuable investment
dim quiver
i feel like with hidden spear, the damage cost of chaos portal is too dangerous
woo ok life affirmation
i feel like i have a chance now
slow ferry
Well in some sense, the damage cost of chaos portal is less of a cost, because you have easier access to healing
But it's certainly a more difficult choice
stray kayak
Is this where i ask questions?
Is there like, a cap of “usable” Darkness?
After maxing the mirror, what darkness is for?
slow ferry
The mirror takes a LOT of darkness to fill
But after that, there's a lot of cosmetics that need darkness
stray kayak
And which diamond upgrades to go for first? I freed orpheus and have lvl 2 constructers
grave storm
fishing rod is nice for passively getting resources
I like the one that gives health when you pick up darkness
sudden brook
^ speaking of fishing, how do i actually get it to work? i have an issue with diamonds lul
sudden brook
oh sorry i glitched, not diamonds, i meant actually catching them.
my issue is timing
slow ferry
there's a white flash and then you press the button
slow ferry
it's kinda hard
the only way to get the best fish is to press it really quickly after the flash
grave storm
yeah esp if you play on some PCs I've heard
sudden brook
i play one switch, but i think it can figure it out now'
safe niche
is there no vibration on switch
sudden brook
my joycons are broken so i use a rock candy controller that doesnt vibrate, so visual and sound cues are all i have
safe niche
ah
sudden brook
yeah 
grave storm
I play with vibration off and can still get perfects sometimes
me starting any new game be like: vibrate off, screen shake off, blood off (if possible)
hollow hatch
Sword guide: <https://www.speedrun.com/hades/guide/0oado>
Bow guide: <https://ww...
holy hell
this is really good
blissful chasm
we gonna be getting a good few new xbox players
brisk kelp
and ps4
leaden whale
First off. I really appreciate all the help I have received from this community.
My question: if you carry a keepsake into the next area does it stick? Like, if I carry the arrowhead from Tartarus to Asphodel does it proc Artemis to appear there?
slow ferry
different keepsakes have different effects that carry over differently
god keepsakes will not make a god appear for you a second time if it already made them appear once
but the increased rarity bonus will still be there as long as you have the keepsake
leaden whale
Ah.
That's good to know.
I had an interesting playthrough just now. I had arrowhead equipped but when I started it was a Poseidon boon and i had one choice and it was legendary ||fishing one||
First time I had seen such a thing.
slow ferry
oh yeah that's just a special event
leaden whale
Do you need to catch 5 fish to proc that?
slow ferry
it overrides stuff like keepsakes
gray haven
There's a little number under the keepsake if it still has charges.
God keepsakes have a little 1 under the keepsake if they still force a god. Charge remains until you pick up a boon from that god.
gray haven
I had an interesting playthrough just now. I had arrowhead equipped but when I s...
Pretty sure it's just the next eligible run after you acquire the fishing rod.
leaden whale
Nah. I had caught a handful of fish (not more than 10) before it procc'd. My hunch is 5.
gray haven
You have to return to the House of Hades at least once after acquiring it to get a new run seed.
Meaning, the first run after acquiring it isn't eligible. You have to die once after getting it.
errant bramble
^^ this
meager wolf
Is there a list of “best” choices for the Mirror of Night?
tame flame
Hey all. How are the boons offered by gods determined? Is it purely chance? I've got one more from Dionysus and Aphrodite to use but for the life of me I can't get them to be offered even by hyper focusing on them.
gray haven
You'll see boons from random gods until you have boons from 4+ gods, at which point you'll only see boons from gods you already have. Lord Hermes and Master Chaos are separate from that and don't count towards the 4.
@tame flame
gray haven
Is there a list of “best” choices for the Mirror of Night?
Haelian has a good video guide for the mirror. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeX_O18y_rE&list=PLmj6-vxquxwS0UXHEpzhS8ExlDs3Z-yku&index=1
mild latch
Holy shiz. Just unlocked weapon power ups. I'm gonna need like 200 TB to unlock them all. How the heck can I do that when there is only one TB per weapon?!
slow ferry
As the game progresses you will find more ways to unlock titan blood
There's a mechanic that's spoilers in this channel that will get you more stuff
stray kayak
Store guy also has like 15 keys to a TB i think
gray haven
You can buy bounties in the shop in the 4th biome, too.
sudden brook
^ after giving nectar a certain amount
sudden brook
how long does it take for a favor to appear
halcyon lagoon
Like a challenge?
odd shoal
some have a quest you have to do
halcyon lagoon
How do I know what that is
odd shoal
idk tbh
slow ferry
sometimes the favor is really obvious, and sometimes it's a bit subtle
usually the favor is just to listen to them talk
thorny leaf
I think you can unlock the favors if you have Nyx at 6 hearts or higher
slow ferry
depends on the favor
stray kayak
The admin chamber is quite useless? I feel scammed haahah
Shoudve gone for the bonus stuff renovations
sudden brook
i use it to log what worked for me and what didn't but i can see why you'd say that asjdfh
mild kelp
The admin chamber is quite useless? I feel scammed haahah
You need it later!
echo moon
should i be saving my ambrosia or should i trade for titans blood? i just started playing a few days ago and i’m too scared to spend diamonds/tb/ambrosia because it took me so long to get lol
sudden steppe
should i be saving my ambrosia or should i trade for titans blood? i just starte...
Just spend them however you like, you’ll get more chances to get more of them later
covert pebble
Haelian has a good video guide for the mirror. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M...
It's interesting how he talks about the basics like which mirror abilities are best to get first, then he starts talking about boon combining and keepsakes and most people just completely lose him instantly. Never heard about "boons" or "keepsakes"
radiant arch
Wh- How.
safe niche
omg
radiant arch
I get Keepsakes, but Boons? You get Boons every single run
covert pebble
They're not called "boons" directly in game
If you're making a tutorial for absolute beginners, I would quickly explain these terms at the start of the video
radiant arch
They are-
They are called Boons in the game-
Thats where the name come from in the first place. Every time you get a Boon in the top of the screen says "(God here) Boons" and Zag calls them Boons múltiple times
Even Gods call them Boons but thats something i cant be sure about
covert pebble
I have another example, at 13:15 he is talking about Legendary vs Epic +% chance, and he doesn't even mention you can't get legendary boons unless you get a certain number of boons from the same god first. So new people might think hey, I like legendaries, but i've never seen one, i guess they're just very rare (i thought the same thing)
radiant arch
(They are pretty rare without legendary chance tho)
I get one in every 5-10 runs. You got a good point but maybe he haves more videos for another terms and its specifics
covert pebble
Yeah
gray haven
If you're making a tutorial for absolute beginners, I would quickly explain thes...
Then make one.
maiden ruin
is the aspect of nemesis worth leveling up to lvl2 right away?
yes if you like the weapon
leaden whale
If I level up a boon, do I have a better chance of getting a boon that requires it. example: I level up true shot; is the lvl2 true shot more likely to proc a parting shot?
maiden ruin
no
timid comet
Heyo are the diamonds mainly only used for trading with the broker ?
Like Titan's blood and ambrosia have some extra use as well
maiden ruin
diamonds are used for work orders from the house contractor
and you can use them to buy music also from the house contractor
timid comet
I see, oh yeah I remember, got the fishing rod from it
mighty pelican
How do I get the question mark aspects?
maiden ruin
yes
lean wedge
also
suppose i have the thing that gives me 4 bounces for my shield special
and i get support fire
will every hit from the special and other attacks fire an arrow?
lean wedge
then i swapped talent and upgraded infernal soul to the max
but still one
same thing happened with the dash but i got an extra dash
why
slow ferry
send a screenshot of your boon screen
that way we can see your cast number and selected mirror at once
lean wedge
i think i need pic perms
maiden ruin
you can post it in a private discord server and then copy image link
and then post the link here
lean wedge
lean wedge
wat
odd shoal
yeah
faint umbra
what version of the game are you playing on?
lean wedge
question too hard
faint umbra
you can see it at the corner of the screen
slow ferry
and yeah this shows that you have stygian soul selected, which only gives you one cast
lean wedge
i thought it gives you both
imagine this with dyonisus' cast blessing
fositive fog or something
also isnt there like a meme meta about some weapon being op or something
faint umbra
anyway, you should update your game, youre running an old version of it
leaden whale
Was so damn close too man
wanton crest
Spoiler tag the name please
mighty pelican
do the bosses get tougher each time you escape? I could easily beat ||hades|| with the shield on my first run, but i'm struggling on my second.
odd shoal
they do not
mighty pelican
ok
rugged siren
Does the shattered shackle bonus get removed when you have a Daedalus hammer buff or is it only with the god boons
sudden brook
only with boons
rugged siren
Thank
arctic bobcat
It's up to you tbh. What is more fun for you?
I'd feel like I'm missing out on content if I don't try all the weapons, but there's some people here that use one or two weapons and get some insane clears with them
exotic lintel
Yeah i feel like i also missing out on content by not using other weapon i do enjoy all of them but yeah not that good mostly with the others
I guess I'll find a more suitable aspect for the other weapons for me
odd shoal
||the pact and heat|| is a spoiler
exotic lintel
Oh shoot
odd shoal
I would recomend just using ||heat||with a wepon your comfortable with though
some wepons can just take a while to click
arctic bobcat
The sword is good for dashstriking like crazy. Same for the fists. The shield lets you block and rush all around the map, so it's beginner friendly. And Exagryph lets you stay far from enemies while dealing damage
But yeah, it's a matter of trying them until they click
May we interest you in an Athena dash in these trying times?
odd shoal
Eris is mostly played at melee range
exotic lintel
yeah i like the gun so much thingking of investing some blood for the hestia
odd shoal
I assume zag rail too but I havent played it
arctic bobcat
Hestia is great. And it's not that different from the bow 
tidal adder
Hai
stray kayak
Hello
exotic lintel
dim quiver
Hi
chrome gust
Hey there, can I ask for some tips with weapons. I've only cleared with the sword and the rail by spamming special repeatedly. How do I use other weapons? (Like what combos should I use?)
gray haven
Mainly Dash-Strike Power Shots with Coronacht.
exotic lintel
Cleared with the spear just by spamming X 
lean wedge
is there anything that allows doom effect to stack?
dusty vault
is there anything that allows doom effect to stack?
Not exactly the entire doom damage but dire misfortune (ares ofc) gives extra damage if you re apply doom damage to the enemy before it activates
lean wedge
yeah just got it in the same run
jade fable
13 attempts later, finally killed the third boss. Lol
halcyon lagoon
I’ve been listening to the soundtrack on Spotify, and I noticed that “In the Blood” doesn’t seem to come up during gameplay
maiden ruin
thats technically a spoiler because ||it plays during the credits||
halcyon lagoon
THATS SICK
ember crystal
Any tips on how to get to the surface with the gun? Kinda hating on it for its low damage tbh
slow ferry
yeah flat damage buffs on gun atk is really important
gray haven
Best hammers are Rocket Bomb + Cluster Bomb. Target System is great, too. Triple Bomb is nice to have.
You can use your Special at the same time you reload.
Can also Dash or Cast when you reload.
ember crystal
Hmm thanks I'll try that. I've been getting to the surface with the spear a lot but not with the other weapons, I'm trying to make the gun my project haha
tribal swallow
Best hammers are Rocket Bomb + Cluster Bomb. Target System is great, too. Triple...
eris can't work with rocket bomb right? or am i missing something?
gray haven
It can. Just shoot from point-blank at anything.
gray haven
Yeah. Just need to be in the explosion.
gray haven
Not really because Eris is broken.
tribal swallow
xd
gray haven
Cluster Rockets on Eris with Lightning Strike, Tidal Dash and a good % Special is the most powerful build in the game.
tribal swallow
Cluster Rockets on Eris with Lightning Strike, Tidal Dash and a good % Special i...
cluster bomb you mean?
tribal swallow
oh
quite new to the game, i've been playing it like a maniac but only for a week xd
also do you tend to go with chitonic vitality or dark regeneration?
i feel that chitonic gives me more when i need it, most importantly Styx
i feel like dark regeneration is only useful after bosses and sometimes is redundant cause you have a fountain after those
gray haven
Chthonic Vitality to keep my HP topped for High Confidence.
But I don't think it matters too much.
Dark Regeneration also allows you to buy Darkness from Wells or the shop for healing, so that's nice.
But it does nothing for you in the Temple of Styx unless you find Darkness in a Well.
viral burrow
I tend to go with Dark Regen
tribal swallow
But it does nothing for you in the Temple of Styx unless you find Darkness in a ...
that's my biggest preocupation
i find it so good in styx
and i wanna go acorn for last boss so i usually dont use the 1,5 invulnerability thing
storm juniper
Is there a resource for the boons/build charts. Whenever I google “boon charts explained” it always tells me what all the boons are lol. Like how do we know which boon goes where?
slow ferry
What do you mean "goes where"
storm juniper
What do you mean "goes where"
Tried to get a pic of it. Never thought to google image search it. I think I found what I was looking for lol
gloomy hawk
If you have the ||lambent plume||, and you switch it out after a region or two, do your bonus move speed and dodge chance go away?
gloomy hawk
Kk thanks
slow ferry
But you do get to keep the cash from the purse
gloomy hawk
Yeah
chrome gust
Can anyone recommend me a bow build for noobs? The bow is the last weapon I need to run a full clear, but it feels really clunky to me.
slow ferry
aphro or artemis attack, and then a god that has a good duo with the god you picked, is the standard
artemis attack, aphro special, heartrend, as an example
aphro attack, dio special, low tolerance
but what will really help your bow gameplay is experience with the game and experience with the bow
you will have to stand still to use bow, generally, and knowing when and where to stand still is key
chrome gust
I've been relying on Chiron's auto target a lot since the power shot feels off.
But I guess practice makes perfect.
slow ferry
Oh yeah chiron does do a lot and is a good way to get better
You can practice power shots with skelly if you want
dim quiver
i really like the bow aspects ngl
stray hamlet
With chiron just keep alternating between attack and special really quickly
And it's good if you get that hammer power up that gives you extra shots
slow ferry
Chiron with dio special is really nice, and from there you can build to low tolerance or something
stray hamlet
I like Artemis special on that
dim quiver
i really like the bow aspects ngl
im looking forward to unlocking the secret one
slow ferry
The secret bow is a real treat
Better learn to powershot before you get it
OH that reminds me
The bows timing changes if you do a dash strike
That's probably why power shots felt weird to you, @chrome gust
chrome gust
I usually attack immediately after dashing and the bow makes me hold the button, which should be the reason.
slow ferry
Yeah try it out with skelly when you can
Dashing into an attack makes the bow charge faster and deal less damage
It's hard to time power shots if you can't tell how fast the bow will charge
chrome gust
That's why I just rely on Chiron. Braindead special spam, but eh. I'll have to learn how to snipe eventually.
Ironically the rail is my most preferred weapon, despite also being ranged.
slow ferry
If chiron spam works for you then it works, but if you want to get better with bow then start firing those arrows powerfully
safe niche
power shots arent really necessary for chiron
maybe more for the other bows but u can still do well without them
chrome gust
Or maybe I should just pray to get the hammer that turns the bow to the rail.
slow ferry
You've got a 2/9 chance every run!
gray haven
I've been relying on Chiron's auto target a lot since the power shot feels off.
You'll want to use Dash-Strikes like 99% of the time rather than your normal Attack.
For Chiron, start Heartbreak Strike and pick up whichever you see first out of Deadly Flourish and Drunken Flourish.
Then get their respective Duo Boon with Lady Aphrodite.
Best hammers for a Heart Rend build are Concentrated Volley and Relentless Volley.
Best hammers for a Low Tolerance build are Twin or Triple Shot and Piercing Volley.
If you don't have a Special boon yet when you pick up your first hammer, Twin Shot, Triple Shot, and Piercing Volley are always good picks.
Point-Blank Shot can be alright. Sniper Shot is pretty bad.
stray kayak
Does peircing volley, reduce Chiron damage?
I notice they kinda spin around the target
Instead of hitting through them
Also why cant we skelly daedalus hammers huhuhu
gray haven
Chiron's Volley can miss some arrows when you're too close. Gets pretty bad in the Temple of Styx, noticeably.
That's probably just what you see.
Gotta be point-blank or have a bit of distance to reliably hit your full Volley.
Tempest Flourish and then going for Sea Storm is also very strong.
And since you're starting with Heartbreak Strike, always look out for Zeus' Aid into Smoldering Air.
Best dashes would be Tidal Dash, Divine Dash, and maybe Hunter Dash.
I probably wouldn't really bother picking up any others, personally, but that doesn't mean they can't work, too. I'd probably just prefer other boons from the other gods.
gray haven
You can deflect everything but shockwaves and spins (like King Theseus's spin).
worthy oak
what does immortal buff mean
stray hamlet
Best dashes would be Tidal Dash, Divine Dash, and maybe Hunter Dash.
Hunter dash ain't too good with bow, it's great with fists though
Aphrodite dash is great when you want to get the ares duo boon
stray hamlet
maybe i just don't use dash strike with bow that much
gray haven
The Dash-Strike charges much faster and gets buffed by Hunter Dash and the Dash-Strike boons from Master Chaos.
Base damage is lower, but your DPS will be a lot higher due to rate of fire, and with Dash-Strike boons, it actually ends up doing more damage anyway.
safe niche
dash strikes are better than normal attacks on most weapons i think
dim quiver
thats got me thinking a game like hades but with an asian theme would be cool
Naginata of Guan yu
Helü's Jian
Chunjun Sword of Purity
leaden whale
Athena dash is pretty good if you’re going for ME tho
leaden whale
Dashing while in the midst of a charge shot on the bow executes the shot as a dash attack, yes? Attack input doesn't have to be pressed after dash input, right? Noticed that Artemis dash strike was proc'ing when I bailed out of my charge attacks.
heady comet
i don't think it works that way
safe niche
lol i havent checked that out, im not sure so i wont comment on that
manic ibex
Should I trade my one ambrosia for 500 darkness? It would allow to me to buy the 3rd death defy. I’ve yet to gift any character more than one nectar.
slow ferry
Getting the death defies is the best thing you can do early for run strength
You'll get more ambrosias by the time you want em, probably
manic ibex
yeah I figure it will be awhile until I can use one, and I guess staying in runs longer means I can get some more later
weary tartan
Is the bow, and shield worth to use early on?
I use the varatha and feels pretty good, compared to the stygius
wanton crest
Use whichever weapon you like best. The shield is considered good for starters because you can block and so on. Bow takes a bit to get used to
weary tartan
I'll stick with spear until i clear the game then, i'll use the keys to unlock more buff for the mirror
gray haven
A common fresh file speedrun strat is unlocking bow asap and then clearing with that.
It's definitely good.
But probably the best way to get your first clear is to just practice with whatever is the most fun for you.
weary tartan
The boons earlier run is predetermined or not?
Bcs sometimes i get a buff when i escape on the first stage
gray haven
The first boon on your first run is always Divine Strike, Phalanx Shot, and Divine Dash. And there's one other time where the first boon you see on the run only has one option. But beyond that, it's random what you get.
weary tartan
Okay thanks 
pale hollow
The first boon on your first run is always Divine Strike, Phalanx Shot, and Divi...
I think there's two with one option, since huge catch
stray kayak
Does Crystal Beam backstab?
gray haven
@pale hollow that's the only one.
pale hollow
First time you're offered call is a single choice as well
gray haven
Is it? I guess two then.
late blaze
Hey hey
maiden ruin
hey hey
late blaze
I got a deal: titans blood for 200 gemstones.
I only have the basic weapons for now, is it worth it?
will I be able to farm titans blood? or is it limited
maiden ruin
you'll be able to farm titan blood but after a while you will run out of it
wait
i think that deal is "buy 200 gemstones for 1 titan blood"
i could be wrong
grave storm
Is it? I guess two then.
plus the one after your first clear. idk if the choices themselves are fixed. and also fishing
unborn pine
What's the best skill to have or ring to pick before the start of escape run? I pick Athena since I get her Dash that can deflect projectiles and also I pick the Slash thing that reduces HP by 60% if I get one.
late blaze
Foolish boy, there is no escape /s
late blaze
What's the best skill to have or ring to pick before the start of escape run? I ...
to be fair, I just stared but I'd say it depends on weapon choice and play style
unborn pine
Ngl, the amount of dashing I do will kill my finger fast lol
mighty pelican
I'm confused, ||i fought charon for the first time and he whooped my ass. Do you guys have any tips for beating him and what's the reward?||
wanton crest
|| His reward gives you -20% in his shop. The only advice I can give is to learn to time dashes/learn his attacks so you know when to dash away to avoid them ||
wanton crest
Yeah, he hits like truck. He has strong arms so understandable
mighty pelican
i think he does more damage than ||hades||
wanton crest
Spoiler tag the name and yes he does
mighty pelican
ok my bad
chilly briar
the only time i beat him was with a bow so i guess range is the way to go
random tartan
ok
safe niche
the only time i beat him was with a bow so i guess range is the way to go
i beat him by abusing shield
heady comet
do the jars/vases have any purpose?
the golden ones give gold
if you use dusa keepsake you also get health but this is a pretty bad keepsake
safe niche
yepp lol
heady comet
oh lol nvm
random tartan
Does getting access back into the ||administrative chamber|| worth anything?
wise zinc
Hey guys, can someone help me pick an athena boon?
I'll dm a ss as it won't let me here
random tartan
What kinda build are you going for?
wise zinc
Just started, so whatever the gods bless me with
slow ferry
Does getting access back into the ||administrative chamber|| worth anything?
Admin chamber unlocks story beats later in the game
wise zinc
they're all deflect boons, but idk what's better to have it on with the rail
dash, special, or attack
slow ferry
You do dash a lot with rail
wise zinc
I mean cast, not special
slow ferry
Oh, athena cast can be good too
wise zinc
Oh, athena cast can be good too
May I send you an ss?
slow ferry
Sure
Could've just told me they were all rare
Athena dash is just really reliable
Cast would also be sensible
random tartan
What are story beats?
dusty vault
What are story beats?
You need it to advance some quests iirc
random tartan
Oh ok
slow ferry
Yeah some sidequests, to get the most hearts with some characters
random tartan
So it’s not that important?
slow ferry
You'll want it eventually but it won't do anything for a while so its not a priority
nova compass
Elysium boss too hard pls help
slow ferry
Elysium boss much harder than every obstacle before it
The first thing you'll learn is how to dodge that flying spear
Then you'll figure out how bull works
Then you'll figure out what the other guy is doin
It'll come naturally with persistence
Maybe equip acorn in that fight so you survive longer, and get more practice
static idol
so i got the "cursed slash" ability that restores 2 hp per hit at the cost of -60% total hp
is it just me or is it kinda op because the game feels like its on easy mode now lol
its my 4th attempt and I've beaten 3 bosses now
although its a flat 2 hp so i guess as i keep going it will be less helpful
yep and i died lol
somber yarrow
Is there a way to check the total number of fish i’ve caught
gray haven
You can buy ||an aquarium||, eventually, that will show you the total number of fish you've caught.
somber yarrow
Oh thanks
coral cargo
any recommendations on a person to focus gifting first?
somber yarrow
When does ares’ heart unlock? The room fountain says i’ve killed 15k enemies
Its still locked
wanton crest
Just rng
gray haven
any recommendations on a person to focus gifting first?
Lady Aphrodite, of course. She's the Goddess of Love and Beauty, after all! 
harsh summit
So, I managed to best theseus the 2/3 of the first times I met him. I've met him 5 times since and cannot seem to beat him again. It's very frustrating. Any tips, aside from get rid of the minotaur first?
maiden ruin
kill the bull first, learn attack patterns, use the pillars to avoid taking damage, make sure bull is dead before you get theseus to his second phase, when you see a pink crosshair on you that means that theseus is gonna throw his spear at you, after he throws his spear he will turn around which means you can attack him, when he is in his second phase you should spend more time dodging the things he summons
dim quiver
Lady Aphrodite, of course. She's the Goddess of Love and Beauty, after all! <:co...
yes
junior kindle
thorny leaf
any recommendations on a person to focus gifting first?
Cerberus because WHOS A GOOD BOI
heady comet
any recommendations on a person to focus gifting first?
Give one to everyone first, then max meg
dim quiver
Give one to everyone first, then max meg
how do i give to you
odd shoal
lol
swift dagger
guys what do yall think are the best boons/daedalus upgrades for the shield?
(aspect of zagreus cuz i love the base shield)
weak lotus
i use zeus boon a lot but i use zeus shield most of the time lmao
for base i guess ares or artemis?
cant say for sure tho
heady comet
honestly merciful end is pretty op on zag shield (or any melee weapon really)
thorny leaf
(aspect of zagreus cuz i love the base shield)
Merciful End and Sea Storm are honestly my top picks
Sea Storm because Shield already does some knockback+Zeus Boins get super strong, and there’s also the Seus Special or Zeus Cast prerequisite+Poseidon Attack and Poseidon Dash.
Merciful End is just Merciful End, no need to go into more detail (hopefully).
chilly briar
boins tho
thorny leaf
Get on Ares Attack and Athena Special?
Yup
Merciful End will activate the Ares Doom immediately so i’d also make sure to get the boon where Doom takes half a second longer but deals more damage
heady comet
ares attack, athena special, then ME, and on top of that you also need athena dash to do decent damage + (optional) impending doom
heady comet
Additionally the special takes a pretty long time to cast
Relatively to dash spamming
thorny leaf
But Poseidon Dash is super nice imo since it does knockback and that is pretty useful for clearing from a place or herding enemies to a place
also
Athena is basically a new player’s best god friend imo
heady comet
And end game too
grim cipher
One of the locked weapons I can choose has the 20% bonus to darkness. If I murder myself immediately in the first encounter room to get the 20% darkness bonus to go to a different weapon, will there be any kind of penalty?
grave storm
it might stick to the original weapon for a run or 2 but should eventually move
grim cipher
So the shorter the run, the more likely the buff will not move?
grave storm
and if you're doing a run anyway there's no harm in trying your best with another weapon to scout out enemies
I don't think it's related to run length
grim cipher
Alright, so I guess there's no penalty for killing myself way early. I'll probably do that because I'll be missing out on that sweet darkness bonus.
I don't have enough keys to unlock the darkness infused weapon yet.
grave storm
or since you're doing a run anyway, might as well try going further to pick up more keys
nova compass
It'll come naturally with persistence
i managed to kill him with shield but i am not used to using that well
i like ranged attacks like the spear and the bow
|| u ended up dying by hades with half health damaged to hades || spoilers
it was my first time i reached that long
heady comet
|| u ended up dying by hades with half health damaged to hades || spoilers
Mark spoilers
somber yarrow
so i completed the ares prophecy, but still the heart is locked. does it unlock the next time i talk to him?
weak lotus
yea iirc
gray haven
guys what do yall think are the best boons/daedalus upgrades for the shield?
Charged Shot with Heartbreak Strike, Zeus' Aid, and their Duo Boon (i.e., ||Smoldering Air||). But Charged Shot with Deadly Strike, Passion Dash, and their Duo Boon (i.e., ||Heart Rend||) is also amazing.
Tidal Dash is always great on shield, and you'll want a lot of poms on that; Poseidon has great tier 2 boons for that, too. Hunter Dash is also good since you'll be dash-striking a lot on shield if you want to optimize your DPS. Divine Dash is a bit overkill for survivability on shield, but it's still a decent pick if you already have decent DPS from a high damage Attack and hammer.
I don't personally like it, but Curse of Agony + Divine Flourish + Divine Dash and their Duo Boon (i.e., ||Merciful End||) is incredibly strong on any melee aspect. But you need Lord Ares's Attack and Lady Athena's Special just to unlock it, and then you still need Divine Dash for the actual combo since your dash should trigger the effect. You'd also want a lot of poms on your Attack and get Impending Doom from Lord Ares later on to increase your damage even further.
gray haven
One of the locked weapons I can choose has the 20% bonus to darkness. If I murde...
There's no penalty at all for dying in a run except the time it cost you to do that. You'll even get to hear great advice from Hypnos!
In fact, speedrunners "reset" a run in this way a looooot when they don't get what they want in Tartarus.
north quail
got a funny bug with ||asterius miniboss||
after the fight it took like 30 seconds for him to go away, the door closed before he even entered and he just started spinning near the wall.
unfortunately i was unable to screenshot or record that, but later on he just disappeared.
gray haven
@north quail please report bugs in-game with F10.
north quail
oops, forgot about that, thanks for reminding! i'll try to get that bug again next time.
gray haven
If you can't get it, you can still report it and explain the bug so they're aware of it and can investigate.
icy scarab
Hi I’ve been playing a lot of hades the past few days, I have been using a lot of the sword and put most of my blood into it. I’m not finding some of the other weapons as fun. I don’t have any much blood rn but is there any ||aspects|| you recommend that you think might make some of the other weapons more fun for me
maiden ruin
Achilles spear, zeus shield, hera bow, demeter fist, and eris rail are all really good
icy scarab
I really want to like the shield the most but I don’t have much fun using it. Most people recommended me chaos but do you like Zeus more?
maiden ruin
Yeah I think zeus is more fun and better than chaos
icy scarab
I can confirm, Zeus is very fun. Thanks a lot
harsh summit
So I finally beat ||hades|| and || met persephone|| and now I'm frustrated at what happens
arctic bobcat
I dared to hope when I got to that point. Lesson learned
On the other hand, you can ||keep escaping, trying other weapons or aspects, and so on||
||You went for Mom, got more gameplay instead ||
harsh summit
I heard rumors about uh ||fishing and romance. How...is that a thing I can do? Because I don't want to Google for spoilers but there's a character I want to romance.||
thorny leaf
I heard rumors about uh ||fishing and romance. How...is that a thing I can do? B...
||fishing is a thing you unlock after you buy the fishing rod. Almost all chamber can be fished at, as long as your hear a Ding after clearing a chamber||
Oh thanks for @ ing me
arctic bobcat
||Whereas romance can happen with certain chars (not all), if you strengthen your bond with them||
||Since there's someone you want to romance, I think it's better if you tell us who it is and we'll tell you if that can happen. Or I can just say the chars that allow that||
thorny leaf
||Whereas romance can happen with certain chars (not all), if you strengthen you...
||you might have to get the companion from the character you want to romance, and no you cannot romance dusa||
arctic bobcat
Let's not give specifics unless we're sure Nix wants them
arctic bobcat
Well. I've news for you: ||That can happen if you become closer ||
weary tartan
||Oh god hades have 2nd phase ||
i alr jumped out on happiness and then he slaps me x-x
his bean attack deals 20 hp per tick x-x
i runs out of death defiance too
void wyvern
odd shoal
Censor that
weary tartan
does regular dash without boons have iframes?
full mural
what are iframes?
chilly briar
invincibility frames
cobalt iris
I believe so as well
Also, did you know that you can attack most projectiles and nullify them?
full mural
yea
cobalt iris
It's one of the reasons I love ||the spear's|| dash attack, it's like a free Athena dash essentially LOL
chilly briar
spear 🥴
odd shoal
Normal dashes have I frames yes
But as soon as you make it a dash strike you lose them
chilly briar
^
cobalt iris
But you can still knock away projectiles with dash strikes, right? Or am I just crazy haha
odd shoal
You can get rid of them but I don’t think anything can deflect them without Athena
cobalt iris
True
chilly briar
i always try and use the dash i frames but my inner monkey just needs to press that attack button and it becomes a dash strike
and i die
odd shoal
s a m e
weary tartan
But as soon as you make it a dash strike you lose them
so that's why i get hit by asterius aoe swing attacks x-x
full mural
what even is the use of athena on attack?
cobalt iris
😂
heady comet
higher survivability
weary tartan
Increased dmg 
odd shoal
% boon on attack and deflecting can be good on anything really
heady comet
especially on fists
cobalt iris
especially on fists
Malphon for LIFEEE
heady comet
for ||higher heats|| maybe idk
its the only viable scenario i can think of where athena attack might be useful
weary tartan
god final boss fight without divine dash feels impossible
chilly briar
when i was starting out i thought that the deflect attack makes you deflect instead of the attack and i thought it was extremely broken
chilly briar
athena dash 😩
odd shoal
god final boss fight without divine dash feels impossible
How so
cobalt iris
athena dash 😩
Best dash 🤟
weary tartan
his aoe slash and the skulls attack wave at the 2nd phase can't be iframed even without triple dash
take too much dmg in the end
odd shoal
Splash dash is very good for dps
weary tartan
oh welp
weary tartan
i gotten very bad luck, pick athena charm and never get divine dash first for 2 runs conscutively
odd shoal
Just learn his tells so you can better react to his moves
It’s a hard fight for sure
||if he gets the skull in you it’s probably best to back off for a bit because it makes you take extra damage||
chilly briar
it gets progressively easier until || it evolves into the most difficult fight ever with em4||
weary tartan
is there a way to get more titan blood for weapon aspect except trading?
full mural
well you can get 2 per run
heady comet
||higher heats||
full mural
but no
weary tartan
well you can get 2 per run
hmmm how?