h1-for-new-players

[misty ridge]

the fist

[burnt quarry]

yes

[misty ridge]

sure, close combat melee

[burnt quarry]

so like the sword

[misty ridge]

faster

and different combo & different special

[burnt quarry]

should I get more skills or buy that weapon with teh keys

[misty ridge]

different hammer upgrades

up to you

[burnt quarry]

def weapon then

is the thing that everytime you hit you get health rare? cuz it felt op

[misty ridge]

the one you had is only on sword

and it's one of the many daedalus hammer upgrades you can get

[burnt quarry]

gotcha

cuz I have been havign trouble with health

[misty ridge]

get cerberus keepsake

or dusa keepsake

hmmm... charon keepsake can be good for health too depending on what you end up buying

[wheat solstice]

right where you're standing with the right perk/item

[burnt quarry]

whgat do I use titan blood on?

[jaunty copper]

i cant beat the 3rd flood boss ughhh

[maiden ruin]

Learn the attack pattern of the bull, kill the bull, learn attack pattern of the idiot, kill bull first, kill idiot last, take a good keepsake with you, acorn or tooth (tree lady in asphodel or skeleton man), win, die to final area, try again

[tacit tangle]

Man I'm about to fight redacted and the circumstances are good but jeez I'm just dreading failing and having to work through all that again

[maiden ruin]

Pain is a part of hades

Pain is a part of roguelikes/roguelites

[slow ferry]

I have absolutely thought about this and it's hilarious.

[wheat coral]

same it sucks that first time but afterward you gain a bit more confidence and finesse that will help in later runs

[leaden whale]

what can i use titan blood for? idk what its used for but everything seems to have a use in this game so what do i have to do

[gray haven]

Titan Blood is for ||upgrading weapons||. You should get to that point pretty soon, I would think.

[leaden whale]

i have 3 bloods

(sorry for the pfp change if thats confusing)

i even gave ||skelly a nectar|| for the ||tooth keepsake||

[thorn crypt]

Hey, ive yet to defeat ||Hades|| and im trying to unlock ||Arthur||, any tips to make the process go faster? Ive already unlocked ||Guan Yu||, im just out of ||Titan Blood||.

[gray haven]

You can buy more Titan Blood at the final shop sometimes.

[balmy wigeon]

It's perfectly fine to exchange ambrosia for titan blood early. It takes a long time until you start needing ambrosia, and you'll have enough by that time.

||Also, after you escape once, you will be able to get rewards from heat 1 even if you haven't cleared heat 0 with that weapon (heat 0 is special in that regard), so you'll be able to grab one titan blood per weapon for defeating furies.||

[gray haven]

End boss and anything past that is spoilers.

[misty ridge]

||heat|| is spoiler in this channel & should be behind tags.

[jaunty copper]

ok so i feel like i have a lot of stuff for how bad im doing in my runs

[jaunty copper]

i have a question is chaos worth losing health?

[maiden ruin]

most of the time it is

[jaunty copper]

like my mirror is so stacked right now and i can only beat hydra 1 in 5 times

[maiden ruin]

bro, you got the game yesterday

you can chill

[leaden whale]

Is Hades worth buying for switch? Is it replayable?

[maiden ruin]

i feel like you can play hades for hours on a switch

but that is just my opinion

and i dont have a switch

[lone parrot]

I’ve got it on the switch and I find it good!

[random jasper]

I also got it on the switch and I love it!

[jaunty copper]

what are those locks under my keepsakes

[leaden whale]

i literally started yesterday and im already thinking of replayable challenges for myself

[tacit quarry]

They're just future keepsakes. They can help with your runs, but you need to get really close some of the npcs. Just keep giving everyones nector, and they'll eventually ask you to do something for them

and some people reward you with some cool stuff

I love the switch version. It's totally replayable

[placid ridge]

tips for elysium? i feel like no matter what i do i always bleed to the various enemies, esp the butterfly ball

ive yet to get past elysium (got to the minotaur boss once then i bottled it)

[slow ferry]

Elysium enemies have way more health than enemies in previous biomes, so...

By then you would want to be dealing Big Damage

[leaden whale]

is the ||adamant rail|| a good early weapon? i dont have it but it doesnt seem to require that many boons

[placid ridge]

its very fun

[slow ferry]

The bullets are less powerful than you might expect

[placid ridge]

idk how viable it is tho

[slow ferry]

Almost everything's good early

[leaden whale]

why is ||meg’s sisters|| so hard

i literally have not been able to get to ||asphodel|| because of them

[slow ferry]

Their patterns can be a bit subtle sometimes

You should be able to tell what they're about to do based on body language

[maiden ruin]

Most of their attacks can be predicted when they stand still for a little bit

They will walk around and then pause, then they will do one of their attacks

[maiden reef]

i got my first win with it

usually i prioritize on my special for adamant rail builds fyi

[jaunty copper]

i still cant beat the bull and the idiot

[slow ferry]

Definitely some of the hardest bosses

Once you start reaching them consistently you'll start learning them and then you'll start winning

[desert granite]

I'd say it's a good weapon later in the game once you have ||a good bit of Titan Blood to invest||. ||The base Zagreus aspect|| is a bit clunky, but upgraded it's okay. Once you unlock it ||Aspect of Eris|| is where it's at imo.

I'd recommend bow for beginners tbh.

[slow ferry]

Some beginners hate the bow

Best weapon is the one you like enough to get good at

[jaunty copper]

so loike if i learn it the gold spear can be best

[slow ferry]

Yeah sure that one is alright

[jaunty copper]

i like a few different weapons

i like bow spear and shield but shield is weak

[slow ferry]

You gotta block with the shield

That's the strength of it

[jaunty copper]

the fists kinda suck

[leaden whale]

you just have to keep spamming your attack it stunlocks everything

[jaunty copper]

what is a good ach spear build

[jaunty copper]

i beat him but it took all 4 death defies

[slow ferry]

Sometimes it's like that

And next time you'll only lose 3

And on and on

[leaden whale]

||when do u get to upgrade weapons with titans blood?||

[grave mist]

After you unlock all the base weapons with cthonic keys

[burnt quarry]

its not giving me anymore titan blood when beating a boss

its that a problem

[leaden whale]

how do u get more titans blood anyway? like once u get the weapons finished

or buy them all I mean

[slow ferry]

Beat a run, then it'll tell you how to get more

[leaden whale]

thank you

[tacit tangle]

After leaving a run right before entering the final boss. I went back to it yesterday and I was able to beat it. Felt so good. Also, man it kinda feels like cheating with ||how much titan blood I can get with heat||

[uneven ledge]

you're gonna have collected a ton of titan blood once you're done with all the upgrades

[leaden whale]

What If I like all of the weapons

kek

[odd shoal]

Any tips for beating ||Hades? The boss I mean||. Having trouble with the spin attack and the pots. Using fists btw with the upgrade that pulls enemies in

[inner urchin]

I try to dash past the boss for the spin attack. They tend to lunge towards you with the swing so dashing toward and past them gives good distance from the attack.

[inner urchin]

I try to break the pots from a distance if I can like with my cast or dashing past them quickly.

[odd shoal]

Most of the time my cast shards are in the boss to do more damage

[misty ridge]

With fists - lots of dash & dash-strike

You don’t wanna stand still too long cuz that just means you’re a target

You can ofc use that to your advantage to lure final boss out to your location & then dash away only to double back & dash-strike

[inner urchin]

Those magnet fists are probably my favorite weapon/aspect so far. It really depends on the build and which gods you find on the run. I really like ||Dionysus or Ares|| for the Special, ||Dionysus or Demeter|| for the Cast, and ||Artemis|| for the Call.

[misty ridge]

Also, if you feel daring you can ||give final boss a hug during lasers||, but no dash-strike then, just normal attack (or special?)

[odd shoal]

Why Dionysus? Just wondering bc with the fists (at least I) tend to kill enemies fast and now wait things out

[misty ridge]

||demeter|| is a spoiler

[subtle niche]

can stack

the effect, i mean

[inner urchin]

My bad

[subtle niche]

since you hit multiple times

[misty ridge]

Who’s your call?

Normally

[odd shoal]

Whoever I get most of the time bc they tend to be rare

[misty ridge]

Aphrodite is nice to have cuz her charm can cancel out ||the lasers||

[odd shoal]

My favs are Athena, Atemis, and Ares typically

[misty ridge]

Same if you get aphro legendary

It can do the same thing

[odd shoal]

That really works? lol that seems like the worst idea. I usually just hide behind cover

i c

[misty ridge]

It’s very effective if you manage to be in the right place

[odd shoal]

interesting

[misty ridge]

Be off by just a few pixels & it’ll hurt - that’s why you can’t dash/dash-strike or use anything that knocks you back

[subtle niche]

there's some space between the laser ring and the boss
if you can get inbetween you get no damage

[inner urchin]

Also with the Magnet Fist special, you can still trigger the effect from a distance since bosses won’t get pulled to you.

[odd shoal]

ty everyone for the help

[jaunty copper]

time for my daily hades time Day 3

[subtle widget]

looks like Duo boons don't simply come across like the other ones. Is there some special way to obtain them ?

[misty ridge]

You gotta have 2 or more prerequisite boons first

If you have the upgraded ||codex|| you can check the ||boon list|| in it to see which boons you’ll need for which duo

[subtle widget]

mind if I dm you to avoid mentioning spoilers out here ?

[misty ridge]

Feel free

[jaunty copper]

hey shadow i have a question

[misty ridge]

Uhhuh

[jaunty copper]

i have 31 runs at the moment where do you think i sould be geting to on average

[misty ridge]

How would I know

Everyone is different

I don’t know the average

[jaunty copper]

well i was just saying because i feel like im not doing great

[misty ridge]

I don’t even know how far you’ve gotten

[jaunty copper]

i have beat the bull and idiot 1 time then died on the path after cerberus the fight took 4 death defy against the bull

[lone parrot]

I’m on 32 and have not beaten it yet

[misty ridge]

Hmm, focus on Asterius - Theseus can be easily avoided if you pay attention to when he’s gonna throw his spear at you

[maiden ruin]

BRO CHILL THIS IS YOUR THIRD DAY PLAYING HADES

[misty ridge]

And you’re doing just fine

[jaunty copper]

wyoure everywhere

[misty ridge]

You are doing just fine

[lone parrot]

Yeah I’d definitely chill

The game likes you dying so it can progress plot

[maiden ruin]

Making it to ||styx|| after 3 days is better than 90% of players

[misty ridge]

Different people take different amounts of time completing different tasks

Same w Hades
Don’t compare yourself to others

[jaunty copper]

ok

[jaunty copper]

yeah i just want to make it more often i barely beat hydra i feel overwheled against it

[maiden ruin]

That's what every player does after 3 days

Took me almost a week to be able to kill hydra consistently

[lone parrot]

The first time I beat Hydra was a fluke for me because of the boons I got

Sometimes Bone Boi still kills me

[misty ridge]

Hmm

Hydra just wants to boop you

[jaunty copper]

my problem is the babies

[misty ridge]

Babies?

[jaunty copper]

his mini heads

[misty ridge]

You mean their other heads?

Ah, ye

I don’t notice them much

They die so fast

The lava one can be annoying I guess

[jaunty copper]

well the first set i can keep my distance and attack but when there is 5 i usually die at least once

[subtle widget]

maybe. but personally the babies are the bigger issue for me. I can dash and dodge hydra all day

[jaunty copper]

^

[misty ridge]

Ah, I don’t dash & dodge

I dash & strike

I run towards them

[subtle widget]

man of culture as well

I run towards the projectiles as well

[jaunty copper]

also the easy fury is murrdddeeeerrrrr girl and alecto always get my ass

[misty ridge]

Woman

[subtle widget]

parden me, miss

[jaunty copper]

my first time beating alecto no death

[maiden ruin]

Alecto is annoying

[subtle widget]

idk which one's the one with the rage bar

[maiden ruin]

Stupid beyblades always take away my health no matter what

[subtle widget]

she is nuts

[misty ridge]

Alecto

[subtle widget]

is there a way to inhibit her rage ?

I feel like damaging her keeps her rage bar at bay

idk tho

[maiden ruin]

I'm pretty sure the rage thing is there for no reason

When she gets to 1/4 health she gets angry

[subtle widget]

think she chases you when in rage. not too sure of that ofc because the whole thing looks like a circus for the most part

[maiden ruin]

She always chases you

[subtle widget]

can barely even see myself when against her

[subtle widget]

yeap. tre

true

[maiden ruin]

Or she just hates me

[subtle widget]

more like, all 3 of those sisters hate zagreus

[maiden ruin]

Not meg...

[misty ridge]

Weeeeeell

[maiden ruin]

I have news for you

[misty ridge]

Meg has some history with you

Alecto is just a cute ball of murder & rage

And tis is an angel

[subtle widget]

you beat me to it

[jaunty copper]

meg isnt coming back to house of hades i want the || companion ||

[maiden ruin]

||you can frick meg||

[misty ridge]

She will

[maiden ruin]

Kill her

[misty ridge]

Just fight her

[jaunty copper]

if i could choose who showed up i would

[maiden ruin]

You can do that with meg, if you kill her or kill one of her sisters there is a 90% chance she gonna show up

I think

[subtle widget]

dk dude. I ain't seen meg in days

[maiden ruin]

Dk you too

[subtle widget]

I meant idk

[maiden ruin]

I meant dk... Whatever that means

[subtle widget]

ofc

[jaunty copper]

the gap between || asphodel|| and ||elysium|| feels huge.

[subtle widget]

I actually find asphodel tougher than elysium because of those heat pockets on the ground, whatever they're called.

dealing with enemies is fine. but in asphodel I also gotta keep in mind where I'm stepping. bruhh

[misty ridge]

Well, it’s natural when you consider who resides in ||elysium||..

It’s the realm where ||heroes & demigods tend to go when they die - Achilles was meant to be there||

[jaunty copper]

true i just feel like one second im kicking a skeletons but then the next im gettinf smashed by a bull

[misty ridge]

That’s the life of a rebel

[subtle widget]

not a fan of the chairs either

or the chariots, idk what they are

[misty ridge]

The chairs..?

Chariots..

[maiden ruin]

Chairs suck

I tried to sit in one once, it wasn't a pewdiepie chair so I didn't like it that much

[misty ridge]

Well, good luck to you new people

[maiden ruin]

Thank you, I'm gonna need it

[jaunty copper]

why is the aphrodite avatar actually really pretty

[maiden ruin]

She is the goddess of beauty dummy

[jaunty copper]

Goddess of Love*

[maiden ruin]

Bruh she both

She the goddess of pretty and goddess of fricking

[jaunty copper]

oh no

its time to fight my worst nightmare

idiot and bull

[maiden ruin]

Time to die

But maybe not this time

[jaunty copper]

ok bull dead now its idiots turn

i have 2 morth revives and 90 health

[maiden ruin]

You gonna win

Wait for him to attack

Then dash behind him and slap him as hard as you can

[jaunty copper]

got him

no deaths

[maiden ruin]

Nice

Time to kill some rats

[jaunty copper]

how many passages do i have to do

[lone parrot]

At least 2 generally

It’s never in the first

[jaunty copper]

"it"

[lone parrot]

Yup!

[jaunty copper]

i found "it"

[maiden ruin]

Good luck

[jaunty copper]

im scared

dont want to take the chance of death

[maiden ruin]

If it makes you feel better, I died the first time I tried

[jaunty copper]

ah i had him a 1/4 health

[lone parrot]

Yeah that’s typically where I get to

[jaunty copper]

are the secret stashes ||companions||?

[maiden ruin]

Yes

[jaunty copper]

i want one

[burnt quarry]

what does the giant necter bottle do?

[slow ferry]

Once you give enough regular nectar to someone and do a favor for them you'll be able to give them ambrosia

[misty fulcrum]

woo reached the elysium for the millionth time just to lose to asterius and that guy

[misty fulcrum]

oh my god!!

that hades is hard af

||just when i thought i deafeated him, his health bar fricking became full and he gone god mode or smt||

||that form's life was half done and then he killed me||

now i know why gamers rage

[gray haven]

@misty fulcrum end boss and anything onwards is spoilers. Please use spoiler tags.

[misty fulcrum]

oh

k

done

[floral shadow]

so ummm

i've unlocked the hidden aspects for both stygian and varatha

but i can't seem to get the other weapon hidden aspect dialogues to unlock it

does it have to be in order like shield-bow-fist-railgun

[tawny nacelle]

do you know how to get the hidden aspect dialogues to unlock?

[floral shadow]

yes i do

i've been throwing runs on purpose and equipping the respective gods' keepsakes

so i can guarantee getting the ones corresponding to the other weapons' hidden aspect dialogue

but im just not getting it at all

[tawny nacelle]

which one are you focusing on getting?

[floral shadow]

generally just all of them

i think i threw like a good 4 runs trying to get the railgun

and then 3 runs on the bow

just not gettig them at all

[tawny nacelle]

have you tried looking at the wiki?
https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Infernal_Arms

it says here

that you have to invest 5 Titan Blood into a weapon to unlock said hidden aspect

have you done that?

[floral shadow]

yeah i have

i unlocked all three other aspects already

and upgraded some

i just saw on a thread that my dialogue queue is backed up or something so i was just wondering how many runs i have to throw to not have it so backed up

[tawny nacelle]

ah

well, I can't help you there
just keep on keeping on until you get something

[floral shadow]

mhmm

was just wondering wether or not i need to unlock it in order

[tawny nacelle]

doesn't seem to say anything here

although it does say something about needing to see specific dialogue in order to unlock it

[floral shadow]

yeah idk why i keep not getting it

[tawny nacelle]

🤷‍♂️

that sucks

[slow ferry]

I got em out of order ya

[gray haven]

Spear first. After that, the order doesn't matter.

Requirements for hidden aspects are pinned in #h1-story-discussion, by the way.

[tawny nacelle]

ah

[leaden whale]

who is ||Asterius||? and where do i find them lmao i forget names

[misty ridge]

||minotaur, elysium||

[leaden whale]

thank you

[mossy ocean]

Hi

[tawny nacelle]

Hello

[south sorrel]

Are there spoilers for the person haven’t gotten bow yet and don’t wanna spoil myself the owner

[misty ridge]

all the HA requirements are individually spoiler tagged

but the names will be there under the tag

[south sorrel]

Oh oof

Can someone tell me who to talk to to getbow

[misty ridge]

I can tell you what it says tho

[mossy ocean]

Does anyone know a strat to beat the skeleton duo

[misty ridge]

||"Unlock the Hidden Spear, then invest at least 5 Titan Bloods into any Rail aspects. Zeus should tell you more in a conversation soon after that"||

[mossy ocean]

You need to get keys

[misty ridge]

oh, wait

that wasn't bow

sowwy

[mossy ocean]

I’m not shure how many

[misty ridge]

||Unlock the Hidden Spear, then invest at least 5 Titan Bloods into any Bow aspects. Artemis should tell you more in a conversation soon after that.||

that's the bow

my bad - it's been long day

[south sorrel]

Thank

[misty ridge]

who..?

have I been away so long I've forgotten enemies already

😱

[mossy ocean]

It’s two skeletons I think they are a boss

[misty ridge]

huh

[wanton crest]

Which area?

[south sorrel]

||I literally pick artemis every time the alternative isn’t demeter how haven’t I found it yet lol||

I think they mean the minibosses

[misty ridge]

I only know 1 skeletal boss, and that's hydra

[south sorrel]

In Tartarus

[misty ridge]

aah, bombers!

[wanton crest]

Ohh

[misty ridge]

I hadn't noticed they were skeletons

I just see bombs

uhm, dash away from where the bomb lands?

idk, I just dash & dash-strike >.>

[south sorrel]

I think they’re also stunlockable once the armor goes out
Honestly I’m too used to randomly clicking and every tartarus enemy spontaneously disintegrating

[mossy ocean]

I main the spear does that help in any way

[misty ridge]

idk

I use whatever has dark thirst

[south sorrel]

Just stab them and dash away when they bomb yeet

[mossy ocean]

Sounds good

Do you think controller or keyboard/mouse is better

[grave mist]

Did you unlock your second dash yet @mossy ocean ? That makes it much easier.

[mossy ocean]

No

[grave mist]

The devs themselves recommend controllers but I always play mouse and keyboard. I think the spear and shield are probably better with M&K than with controller.

[mossy ocean]

Idk how

I main spear

[grave mist]

Visit the mirror in Zag's bedroom between runs and spend your accumulated darkness.

[mossy ocean]

Ok

[tawny nacelle]

I haven't tried M&K but Controller works great enough for me

[mossy ocean]

I mainly play m&k but I also have a controller

[maiden ruin]

Just play the one you like more

There are many great players on kbm and many great players on controller

[mossy ocean]

I’m bad on both

[tawny nacelle]

you just have to to get better

[maiden ruin]

Well you are a new player right?

[mossy ocean]

Yeah

[maiden ruin]

So yeah

[grave mist]

The game is really tough at first. The mirror makes a HUGE difference

[tawny nacelle]

game's got a difficulty curve

[grave mist]

For one, this game actually has lives.

[maiden ruin]

If you are new then you are not gonna be good

[mossy ocean]

I’ve gotten the farthest I’ve ever got yesterday

[tawny nacelle]

how far?

[mossy ocean]

To the boss I think it’s the main characters x or something

[tawny nacelle]

ah

[tawny nacelle]

yeah prioritize getting the lives first, they can make every single difference

[mossy ocean]

I’ve learned that you can defy death I’m not shure how exactly you do it but I know I can

[maiden ruin]

Mirror

[mossy ocean]

Ahh

[maiden ruin]

30 darkness for a second life

[mossy ocean]

So the mirror is the key to beating the game huh

[maiden ruin]

Yeah

[tawny nacelle]

you can feasibly beat it without the mirror but I would highly not recommend that

upgrade the mirror

[mossy ocean]

Yeah to hard

Ima play the game in a sec

I wish I could stream it to a vc here but the server does not have one

[grave mist]

The game pauses when you have to make decisions so a lot of players will get play-by-play help from the server

How much darkness do you have btw?

[mossy ocean]

I’ll look in a sec

[grave mist]

For me the biggest early talents are greater reflex, which gives you another dash, infernal soul which gives you more casts, and death defiance which gives you more lives. Get as many if the as you can afford.

[mossy ocean]

I’m getting on the game now

What should I buy

[tawny nacelle]

what's there to buy?

[mossy ocean]

Chthonic vitality or greater reflex

[tawny nacelle]

Greater Reflex

I'd go with Greater Reflex

[mossy ocean]

What does shadow presence do

[misty ridge]

Better backstab

[grave mist]

They're both really important but I recommend greater reflex first just so you can dance all over the inferno bombers

[misty ridge]

There’s a description on it

[mossy ocean]

I already maxed out shadow presence

[misty ridge]

Then you have better backstab

[mossy ocean]

And now I’ll get greater reflexes

That’s why I use spear easy backstab

[misty ridge]

With dash there’s lots of easy backstab

[grave mist]

Backstabbing isn't the hugest thing ever, it's 50% bonus so 2 backstabs are as strong as 3 normal hits. It helps, but it's not like you're a WoW rogue getting all your damage from backstabs.

[misty ridge]

I still prefer it to ||fiery||

I like being stabbity stab

[mossy ocean]

Should I do wine god or weapon upgrade

[grave mist]

Let's see what upgrade you can get

[misty ridge]

Depends on if you want dio that run

If you’re at the start of the run

[mossy ocean]

I am at the start

[tawny nacelle]

Dionysus is too good to pass up
never pass him up
/j

[south sorrel]

Considering more weapons are either combo hits or very fast with low burst damage besides ||bow and non zeus shield|| imo shadow best

[misty ridge]

Then if you want dio go with him, if you don’t mind passing him up & potentially not seeing him that run then go hammer

[tawny nacelle]

wait you can choose to get a Daedalus Hammer at the start of a run?

how do you do that?

[misty ridge]

The first 4 gods you pick a boon from determines who shows up that run

[misty ridge]

rng

[tawny nacelle]

aw nnuts

[misty ridge]

Or, god keepsake

[grave mist]

It's all random, sometimes it's literally the first thing you see

[misty ridge]

But that’s just for gods

Hammer is always rng

[tawny nacelle]

I was hoping there was some way to get that reliably at the start :'(

[misty ridge]

You have the chance at 2 hammers each run

[grave mist]

Oh one more tip @mossy ocean when enemies first spawn at the beginning of a wave stand on their spawning circles and charge a full powered spin attack to get a good start on them

That's the safest time to charge that attack

[south sorrel]

That doesn’t feel right I’ve gotten ||25% buff|| from the mirror of night talent that ||gives 5% per olympian||

[grave mist]

Hermes counts as an Olympian

[misty ridge]

And you can summon more w god keepsake

[south sorrel]

Ah ok

[misty ridge]

But the first 4 will be the repeating ones

The ones in your god pool

[south sorrel]

So max would be ||40%||

From 3 sakes and Hermes

Are there that many Olympians

[misty ridge]

Yes..
Ares, Athena, Aphrodite, Artemis, Zeus, Poseidon, Hermes, ||Hades||, ||Demeter||

I prefer my PS tho

Status effects forever \0/

[misty ridge]

Oh, and Dionysus

[south sorrel]

Oh so you always have to give up two shame ||unless hades is only summonable through keepsakes haven’t unlocked him yet||

(don’t worry didn’t spoil me I big dumbed earlier)

[misty ridge]

You’ll find out

[south sorrel]

(And also it was tagged why would you worry)

[grave mist]

Make it to the mini boss yet @mossy ocean ?

[misty ridge]

Watch him get the ||crystal||

If that was Tartarus

[south sorrel]

That’s literally the easiest miniboss

[misty ridge]

I actually can’t remember right now

[south sorrel]

It just ||stands there||

[misty ridge]

Eh, it can be hard if you’re unlucky w your boons

[tawny nacelle]

it is

[misty ridge]

||it moves tho||

[south sorrel]

That’s slow

[misty ridge]

And spawns minis

With annoying attack

[tawny nacelle]

uhhhhhh
I feel like I should disagree there but I'm failing to come up with an argument

[misty ridge]

Not hard as such, but annoying

[south sorrel]

I like how you spoilered that it moves but not that it spawns clones

[misty ridge]

Ooh maybe he’ll get the ||big teleport witch!||

[tawny nacelle]

I hate that one

[misty ridge]

Cuz you spoilered that it just stands still lol

[south sorrel]

That’s post [REDACTED] isn’t it

[misty ridge]

I got no idea

I beat redacted on run.. 29?

[south sorrel]

Did you find it before [REDACTED]

[misty ridge]

I’m very lost on what may have appeared before or after that cuz it’s been a while

How would I remember - it happened in January

[south sorrel]

There’s one Place Which Hoards The Knowledge

[mossy ocean]

What’s god mode

[misty ridge]

I have yet to see it count mini bosses

[misty ridge]

Gives a toggle w 20% dmg reduction that increases by 2% every death until you hit max 80%

You can turn it on/off whenever unless you’re on hell mode

[tawny nacelle]

it's basically the easy mode

[misty ridge]

Not exactly tho

The game stays the same

[tawny nacelle]

true

[misty ridge]

You just become a bit sturdier

[south sorrel]

Only need to reach [REDACTED] not kill

[tawny nacelle]

you become sturdier which allows for an easier game experience, right?

[misty ridge]

It’s also nice if you just want to advance the story

[south sorrel]

Reduced damage by any other name

[misty ridge]

Once again, maybe, but you still have to learn to play the game

It’s still easy to die

[south sorrel]

Easy mode too typically

[tawny nacelle]

less easy, considering you take less damage

[south sorrel]

But like it’s hard to overstate how much 80% damage reduction is

[misty ridge]

But that’s the max

Not what you start with

[tawny nacelle]

yeah 80% damage reduction is a lot of damage reduction

[south sorrel]

(Actually it is: “it makes you invulnerable” overstates it)

[jaunty copper]

i keep dying to ||hades|| any tips

[south sorrel]

You can get hit by 5 times more things that’s a lot of times

[misty ridge]

||give daddy a hug||

Then stab redacted in the back while you’re at it

[south sorrel]

||what weapon||

[tawny nacelle]

be patient, learn the patterns, ||don't get hit by those dumb urns, watch out for the lazers, avoid the enemies he spawns in the first phase||

[south sorrel]

||also, try another||

[grave mist]

I think I made it to the last boss seven or eight consecutive times before I won, so if you're getting there consistently victory is right around the corner.

But for me I needed Greatest Reflex from Hermes for all my early clears, the extra dashes really helped

And I also relied on DOTs a lot. Rupture is my favorite for the last boss.

Jolted is also really good

[south sorrel]

also ||stop exploring the temple after the fountain chamber|| and ||if your second temple try is not a sack it’ll likely be the third so you can pick any door even the harder ones||

And if you have the ||mirror thing that affects foes with a rock|| remember to cast

[jaunty copper]

i have 2 death defy and 108 health about to finish temple 3

[grave mist]

If you have any extra gold stock up on Charon's Well buffs because they carry over to the final fight.

[south sorrel]

||what weapon you use anyways||

[jaunty copper]

i died again 1 death dfy

[misty ridge]

I always do a ||mini boss tunnel|| on 2nd try cuz I’d likely have more health & such then if it’s not the right one, and if it is - yay free double reward

[south sorrel]

Yeah but on third it’s even more likely to be the right one

[misty ridge]

Most get it on the 2nd tho

[jaunty copper]

im not ready for ||styx|| yet i died 3 times just in temples

[south sorrel]

I got a 5 tunnels once lol

[misty ridge]

I tend to get it on either nr 2 or nr 5

But never when I want it to be nr 5

So sad

[jaunty copper]

is it possible to kill ||hades|| with one life

[misty ridge]

Yes

And SPOILER

[grave mist]

Also this isn't a consistent strategy @jaunty copper but in fury runs you can try to go for the Zeus/Aphrodite duo smoldering air which practically lets you spam your call like a regular attack

[jaunty copper]

i dont like calls ive never used one

[misty ridge]

But they so OP

[south sorrel]

Why

[jaunty copper]

i dont understand how the charge up works

[misty ridge]

There’s some that make you invulnerable

[grave mist]

You did pretty well to make it that far without using them

[misty ridge]

You hit things & they hit you

That’s how it charges

[south sorrel]

(Try not to get hit on purpose not worth it)

[misty ridge]

Unless you have some boons like Hermes auto charge X% every Y second

Athena has one that makes you start w the gauge partially full

[south sorrel]

Also for ||Styx|| take the final rooms VERY slowly

[jaunty copper]

i died to him at 1/4 again

[misty ridge]

You’ll get him next time!

[jaunty copper]

i need all 4 death defy

[grave mist]

A well placed call can drain 1/4 of the health bar to give you an idea of their power

[misty ridge]

^

Plus aphro can cancel ||lasers||

[jaunty copper]

uhhh

[misty ridge]

You just use the call when they start up & poof they gone

[jaunty copper]

im on run 34

[grave mist]

Are you on hell Mode @jaunty copper ? I've seen a people use it and wonder why it takes them 80 tries to clear the game.

[misty ridge]

80 tries is still within the norm

[jaunty copper]

no im just bad

[misty ridge]

34 is still just fine

[grave mist]

Not that bad, I cleared on like 37 or 38 after many consecutive runs to the final boss

And now I'm up to like 70 clears or something

[misty ridge]

I cleared on 29, but I feel like that’s just cuz I’m used to Isaac & having to always dodge things & not get hit too often by the Big Boss

[jaunty copper]

ive got to ||hades|| twice in a row also my only 2 times seeing him

[misty ridge]

You should just try to have fun & enjoy the game

When you finally do get that first clear it’ll feel amazing

[grave mist]

Oh I forgot my no. 1 favorite tip. Are you using the evergreen acorn?

[misty ridge]

And then you’ll feel crushed when you die again next time

[mossy ocean]

I’m trying to get artimus

[misty ridge]

Artemis?

[jaunty copper]

nope tooth

[misty ridge]

Acorn is better

[mossy ocean]

So I can give her a gift she has good stuff on spear

[misty ridge]

Get to rank 3

Let’s you tank 5 hits from redacted then

[jaunty copper]

ill try it thank you

[grave mist]

||Since Hades hits for like 20-40 a pop you get more bonus health from the acorn than from the tooth||

[misty ridge]

She has the same boons on the others with a couple minor exceptions?
And if you give her a gift you can get her keepsake - very good if you want to keep seeing her

[mossy ocean]

That’s my goal

[jaunty copper]

artmis boons bad

[misty ridge]

no they're not

crit is great

[grave mist]

Even Support Fire?

[jaunty copper]

what one is good

[misty ridge]

support fire is fun

dash can be great boost

call is nice

[jaunty copper]

deadly flourish true shot or artemis aid

[misty ridge]

duos are

weapon?

[maiden ruin]

Artemis has very good boons

[grave mist]

True shot and aid ate my picks

[jaunty copper]

sheild

[misty ridge]

aid

[jaunty copper]

my first ever call

[misty ridge]

I think

ye

[maiden ruin]

Zag aspect shield is good with artemis

[misty ridge]

now get it to max gauge & watch the hp drop on bosses

[grave mist]

Artemis's aid is the one that can drain 1/4 of the final boss's health in an instant

[misty ridge]

mhmm

[maiden ruin]

Haelian made a vid about 8k damage artemis calls

[jaunty copper]

but it resets every room

[mossy ocean]

I got the keepsake

[misty ridge]

yes?

but in the boss rooms it's easy to get to max..

[tawny nacelle]

damn I knew it was powerful but that' just plain OP

[misty ridge]

in small rooms just use whenever you can

[maiden ruin]

Zeus, hermes, and poseidon have boons for that

Oh, and athena

[grave mist]

Use it as often as possible (remember it's self-aiming) and save up the greater call only on bosses

[misty ridge]

mhmm

many call boost boons

[jaunty copper]

i just got the hermes one in shop

[misty ridge]

if I don't respond it's cuz I'm very bad at mode

[maiden ruin]

Elmo mode

[misty ridge]

ye

he on fiyah

[tawny nacelle]

I don't have the guts to try Elmo Mode

too advanced for my caveman brain

[misty ridge]

I've been told it's a hellish emoji

[jaunty copper]

Murderrreererr

[maiden ruin]

Errrr

[mossy ocean]

Witch god is the best for spear?

[maiden ruin]

Depends

[misty ridge]

I only know of 1 witch god - Hecate

[maiden ruin]

But on all aspects artemis and aphro can work

[tawny nacelle]

hmmm, that's a good one
Zeus?

[mossy ocean]

Ok

[tawny nacelle]

you could do some serious damage if you put Zeus on Attack

[mossy ocean]

I’ll go for Zeus

[tawny nacelle]

nice

good luck man

[maiden ruin]

Flurry jab zeus

[mossy ocean]

I need a gift first

[grave mist]

At this stage @mossy ocean I recommend you focus on keys and darkness rewards and just play around with boons

[misty ridge]

I'm so proud of myself

I killed Meg without losing a dd

[tawny nacelle]

[mossy ocean]

I got most weapons and I have most maxed out

[maiden ruin]

Pathetic

[misty ridge]

I mean, I will die in the next region, but that's ok

[grave mist]

I will say I like putting Athena on attack for spear since the big attack animation makes it a good shield

You also need keys to unlock the rest of the mirror

[tawny nacelle]

well of course you're gonna die in the next region if you think that pessimistically
think positive

[grave mist]

I'm in like run 200 and I haven't maxed out the mirror yet

[misty ridge]

wao

[maiden ruin]

Bruh

[tawny nacelle]

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang

[grave mist]

I like ranks what can I say

[misty ridge]

[jaunty copper]

what side of mirror?

do you guys use

[tawny nacelle]

a combo of both

[misty ridge]

I use both

[maiden ruin]

Both

[tawny nacelle]

I think I use primarily Purple though

[misty ridge]

well, right now it's 1 side, but that's cuz zags a baby atm

[maiden ruin]

Purple mirror is better in most situations

[tawny nacelle]

truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue

[south sorrel]

Regarding acorn being better than tooth collar is better than both with enough death defys if you don’t get hit by too many 40s (typically the main thing to hit me is ||shockwaves and lazers|| so that’s why I’m saying this). Also can help not waste defys during ||styx||

[mossy ocean]

I got zues

[tawny nacelle]

noice

[maiden ruin]

Acorn is 5 free hits

[south sorrel]

Yeah 5 times 20 is 100

[maiden ruin]

What

100 free damage

More than 50

[slow ferry]

Hmm let's do the math. Collar gives you 50 health + 25 for each DD. Tooth gives you 100 health.

[south sorrel]

50+50*defys/2 is 125 with 3 and 150 with 4

[slow ferry]

Yeah but the final boss hits HARD

[odd shoal]

Also worth noting its easier to recover health than it is death defies

[tawny nacelle]

+50 MAX Health

[slow ferry]

If you block 5 hits that would've dealt 40 damage to you, that means the acorn basically gave you 200 health

[misty ridge]

snek booped me too hard

[south sorrel]

So unless you get hit by ||spin|| 3/5 of the time collar is superior

[misty ridge]

uhm, no

[grave mist]

The collar gives you mathematically the best boost but in practice that extra health will be spread across the whole run.

[maiden ruin]

1 spin is 80 percent of collar

[south sorrel]

Collar buffs DD recovery as well

[maiden ruin]

Plus 25 health

Per dd

[south sorrel]

Yeah

[maiden ruin]

Or you can just have 100 health in another dd

[grave mist]

The acorn will ensure that extra health is "saved" for boss fights but does nothing outside boss fights

[south sorrel]

125-150 if you arrive with full

Also collar increases percentage based healing I think

[maiden ruin]

Lmao no

[south sorrel]

No?

[maiden ruin]

Gives you extra health and that's it

[slow ferry]

Some healing effects heal more if you have more max health.. mostly DD and SD

Those would be affected by collar

[south sorrel]

And fountains

[slow ferry]

Yeah good luck finding a fountain in styx

[south sorrel]

That’s what I meant

[tawny nacelle]

which is why I main the collar a lot

[south sorrel]

Are you being serious

[maiden ruin]

there is a fountain 100% of the time in styx...

[jaunty copper]

what weapon and aspect is the best for high damage

[south sorrel]

You’re literally forced to find a fountain bruh

[misty ridge]

I never use the collar

[maiden ruin]

Hidden sword and bow

[slow ferry]

Nemesis does big damage too

[misty ridge]

I only used it when I had to lvl it to get to rank 3

and that was just cuz I want them all to be rank 3

[grave mist]

The only issue with the collar is that there are so many ways to get more max health including two boons that increase health ups that most players would prove prefer using their keepsake for something else

And just make up that 50 health on the go.

[jaunty copper]

normal bow?

[maiden ruin]

Hidden

Sorry

[south sorrel]

I mean if you have high max health an offensive boon is better anyways

[jaunty copper]

i want to get hidden bow bow is my favorite weapon

[slow ferry]

Collar can be better than acorn based on your damage resistances

I think generally acorn stronger

For specifically the final boss

If you're talking about taking damage in styx then its a different story

[maiden ruin]

Health over 300 is overkill

[jaunty copper]

should i use my stuff from the bull fight to get more blood

[maiden ruin]

You don't get anything from bull fight

[jaunty copper]

ambrosia

[maiden ruin]

Heroes fight

[misty ridge]

they be different fights raiz

[jaunty copper]

my bad

[maiden ruin]

Extremely different

[slow ferry]

Later in the game you find a use for ambrosia, but plenty of people trade it in for blood

[maiden ruin]

Heroes fight is bull fight with an annoying guy yelling with a spear

[slow ferry]

You'll get more ambrosia by the time you need it

[misty ridge]

he's funny tho

[maiden ruin]

No

[misty ridge]

yes

[maiden ruin]

The funny thing about heroes fight is that I killed both of them in 15 seconds

[misty ridge]

oh come on!

how many times do I gotta get the crystal mini

[maiden ruin]

The what

[misty ridge]

tart mini boss

pink crystal

[maiden ruin]

Oh

That thing easy

[misty ridge]

yes, but I wanna see the others for codex!

[jaunty copper]

crap its gonna take a while to get hidden bow

[maiden ruin]

Oh

[maiden ruin]

Getting hidden aspects is hard

Most of it is rng and blood farming

[slow ferry]

You wanted big damage? Have you tried nemesis sword?

[misty ridge]

ok I think I set a new personal record for how fast I got a legendary that wasn't scripted o.o

[maiden ruin]

That is dps, hidden sword has high damage but low dps

[misty ridge]

room 8 - and I only have until infernal soul unlocked

[maiden ruin]

What

[misty ridge]

new file for ||heat training||
just got aphro legendary for the first time

[maiden ruin]

Imagine needing ||heat training||

[misty ridge]

it's cuz I don't wanna die on my main file

[maiden ruin]

I just killed myself and then did ||32 heat|| first try

[slow ferry]

Your streak too high?

[misty ridge]

mhmm, not as high as mister kms over here had, but it's over 60 now

[maiden ruin]

Who?

Oh

I'm dumb

[jaunty copper]

...like escapes

[misty ridge]

I can't write your name

[maiden ruin]

Pathetic

[misty ridge]

ye, that works in the middle of a fight

I have to completely exit the game

so, easier to start a new file for ||heat|| training - plus it's fun that way

[jaunty copper]

idk what heat is yet

[maiden ruin]

Bruh we in hades for new players

[jaunty copper]

how do i get ||guan yu||

[misty ridge]

sowwy

lol

[maiden ruin]

Spoiler

[misty ridge]

you have to hide that name too

and you have to hide the ||heat|| too oop

[maiden ruin]

Check story discussion pinned messages

[jaunty copper]

i think i did all that

[maiden ruin]

Rng time

[misty ridge]

rng

[jaunty copper]

just for him to talk to me

[maiden ruin]

Yeah

[jaunty copper]

dang

[maiden ruin]

Achilles is an idiot and needs time to learn how to say a sentence

[misty ridge]

ye

[jaunty copper]

i also need 5 blood for ||bow aspects||

i need lots of blood

[south sorrel]

Not as much pain as trying to get ||gilgamesh||

[misty ridge]

time to beat redacted then

I wonder when I'll get to redacted on this file

[south sorrel]

WAIT can I quit ||Asterius||’s room over and over to get infinite rerolls

[jaunty copper]

what is redacted

[misty ridge]

final boss

[maiden ruin]

Uhhh

||dad||

[misty ridge]

gg

[south sorrel]

Bruh

[south sorrel]

Spoiler it

[tawny nacelle]

criiiiiiiiiiiinge

[south sorrel]

Also can I

[grave mist]

After thinking about it the optimum health saving strategy would be to save the collar until ||Styx|| and switch to it if you have 3 or more DD's or use the acorn if you have less than 3. I'll try this out next time.

[maiden ruin]

Who needs DDs

[slow ferry]

To some extent it also depends on which attack you're getting hit by

[south sorrel]

Or you could use the ||egg||

[jaunty copper]

me 😦

[odd shoal]

everyone in room raises hand

[tawny nacelle]

this guy know's what's up

[maiden ruin]

Do you know how many times I clutched at 10 health to save my streak

[jaunty copper]

athena boons are the best

[maiden ruin]

Who needs boons

[misty ridge]

athena is boring :/

sure, she'll prolly get you the win, but at what cost 🥺

[tawny nacelle]

Athena? You mean her Boons?
I quite like reflect

[odd shoal]

how boring

[misty ridge]

ye, but it's so.. boring

[grave mist]

I've never returned three blasts to an elite splitter and thought "Boring..."

[tawny nacelle]

yeah man

[odd shoal]

^

[misty ridge]

well, I'm not you & you're not me

and I think athena is boring

[slow ferry]

The thing with Athena boons is that ranged attacks are.... not a big problem for me

[tawny nacelle]

now that we're on the topic, least favorite status effect?

[slow ferry]

Oh no a little purple circle whatever shall I do

[misty ridge]

exposed

[maiden ruin]

Exposed

[odd shoal]

weak

[south sorrel]

Weak

[maiden ruin]

Weak is great

[misty ridge]

weak is so good tho

[tawny nacelle]

is that even a status effect?

[maiden ruin]

Reduced damage

[slow ferry]

I don't think I know how exposed... actually works

[grave mist]

Probably doom

[maiden ruin]

Yes

[misty ridge]

yes

it's a T2 status effect

[maiden ruin]

Doom is op

[tawny nacelle]

huh

[tawny nacelle]

bro wtf

[odd shoal]

I forgot exposed exists

[south sorrel]

Also yeah doom is pretty bad

[maiden ruin]

How

[grave mist]

None of them are bad. They're all good

[south sorrel]

100 damage every 15 hours

[slow ferry]

Doom feels pretty mediocre in some builds

[grave mist]

Doom is the one I can most easily make up by some other wsy

[maiden ruin]

I HAVE GOTTEN A 800 DAMAGE DOOM AND A 1000 DAMAGE DOOM CRIT

[tawny nacelle]

Exposed is terrible but if you asked me which main one I dislike the most (Hangover, Doom, Reflect, etc.)
gonna have to go with Weak

[grave mist]

It's my least favorite in a list of good options.

[misty ridge]

status effects in this game are:
Doom, Exposed, Marked, Rupture, ||chill||, Hangover, Weak & Jolted

[slow ferry]

Well obviously if your doom is 800 then it's good, but that's not the case most of the time

Sometimes your doom is 60

[maiden ruin]

I mean I got 400 damage doom with hidden fists

It was an ME build so it was 10 times better

[tawny nacelle]

dang that's pretty good

[jaunty copper]

i have 3 athena boons rn nothing else

[tawny nacelle]

🇫

[slow ferry]

If you're running ME then ME is the reason your build is good

Doom doesn't get any credit

[maiden ruin]

Bruh

[tawny nacelle]

why are we capitalizing ME is that an acronym I'm missing

[misty ridge]

I love weak cuz there's a T2 boon that makes weak enemies take more dmg

[odd shoal]

ME is nothing without doom though

[misty ridge]

duo boon Merciful End

[tawny nacelle]

thanks

[maiden ruin]

Where does the damage come from

[slow ferry]

It comes from the fact that you're using ME

You're not waiting for the doom to activate

[tawny nacelle]

it comes from Doom...

[odd shoal]

ME does no damage without doom

[maiden ruin]

You need doom for ME to work

[odd shoal]

therefore it comes from doom

[tawny nacelle]

am I missing something here?

what the hyuck

[odd shoal]

ME just makes the damage come sooner

[misty ridge]

mhmm, if you have ME & remove the doom boon you got no ME

[tawny nacelle]

it's called a Duo Boon for a reason

[odd shoal]

Is there a way to consistently get ME

[slow ferry]

You can't tell me a status effect is good because there's a duo boon that makes it incredibly overpowered

[tawny nacelle]

there's a Mirror talent that increases the chances of getting Duos

[maiden ruin]

I'll just use curse of longing then

[tawny nacelle]

yeah but like
I think it stands on it's own

[misty ridge]

why not?

I don't even like ME that much, but I'm just curious why not

[grave mist]

That's what makes this a fun discussion, we just like the ones that have really saved our bacon

[odd shoal]

troof

[south sorrel]

Imo it’s ||decay chill|| > marked (if it weren’t a pain to activate) > ||chill|| > rupture > Jolted > doom > exposed > hangover > marked > weak

[maiden ruin]

Doom is bad because I refuse to get boons that make it good

[grave mist]

One person likes doom because they got 800 doom hits and 1000 doom crit, believe it or not like exposed for the same reason

[slow ferry]

I would rather get boons that support effects that are already good, that way I'm not resetting when I don't get the special duo

[maiden ruin]

Exposed can be good, but out of all the curses I think it is the worst

[grave mist]

I once had tons of backstab boons stack and wax backstabbing ||with Rama triple shots|| for crazy numbers. I can't say it's the perfect strategy but it was the only time I was happy to see great shields.

[south sorrel]

Marked is almost useless against bosses tho

[tawny nacelle]

well in that case the term least best suits it better

[south sorrel]

100% Useless for ||tisiphone||

[maiden ruin]

I used marked when I killed the heroes in 15 seconds

[odd shoal]

Yeah I think marked then exposed then week

[slow ferry]

Marked can work a bit on heroes, and the final boss

[tawny nacelle]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang

[grave mist]

No you gotta say worst because the emotionally charged nature of the discussion is what unites is as gamers.

[tawny nacelle]

ah, gotcha

[odd shoal]

Its hard to argue with his assessment

[grave mist]

It doesn't mean you're correct, it's just how it's done.

[slow ferry]

If this conversation didn't make me mad then I wouldn't still be having it

[tawny nacelle]

got it

[south sorrel]

Also favorite duo?

[maiden ruin]

Uhhhh

[tawny nacelle]

oooh

[maiden ruin]

ME

[south sorrel]

Mine is ||Demeter||-Athena cause I’m bad at the game

[misty ridge]

hmm... Exclusive Access if I can get it in tart or asphodel

[jaunty copper]

i think this might be THE run

[tawny nacelle]

I fancy Splitting Headache

[misty ridge]

maybe hunting blades?
or sea storm

[tawny nacelle]

but I also like Sea Storm

[misty ridge]

idk, I use duos too often to remember which ones I aim for most often

[maiden ruin]

Crystal clarity will melt ||em4 hades or just hades in general||

[tawny nacelle]

oh yeah

[maiden ruin]

||also it can do a cerb skip, and anything that can do a cerb skip is awesome||

[tawny nacelle]

||I don't really go for Crystal Clarity too often because I don't really like Crystal Beam all that much anyway||

[misty ridge]

it's good with artie duo

[south sorrel]

Wait what’s ||cerb skip||

[maiden ruin]

||em4||

[misty ridge]

oi

spoiler

[south sorrel]

What’s that

[maiden ruin]

Idk

[south sorrel]

Oh

||extreme measures 4?||

[maiden ruin]

Yes

[south sorrel]

Does the final boss summon ||cerb in em4||

[maiden ruin]

||cerb can kill you in em4||

[misty ridge]

..

[maiden ruin]

Yes

[misty ridge]

again

spoiler >.>

[tawny nacelle]

||I hate that||

[south sorrel]

I seriously doubt anyone understands the acronym but ok

[maiden ruin]

There is a safe spot for that

[misty ridge]

not the point

[tawny nacelle]

||although I usually just use my Call cause more often than not I choose a call that makes me Impervious||

[misty ridge]

it is a spoiler

[maiden ruin]

Still a spoiler tho

[misty ridge]

[tawny nacelle]

where?

[maiden ruin]

All the way to the right

Only works if you are not there in the first place tho

If you chill there then he can get you there

So stay in the mid until he does the thing

[tawny nacelle]

||I'll try that maybe probably not because I don't have the commitment to stick with an unfun Cast until it becomes good but whatever man at least now I know||

[south sorrel]

Best ||legendary|| is clearly huge catch

[jaunty copper]

lost all 3 dd against bull and loud guy

[odd shoal]

rip

[tawny nacelle]

🇫

[jaunty copper]

im at the big door...

[odd shoal]

gl

[tawny nacelle]

good luck man

[south sorrel]

I hate ||theseus so much that shield is so annoying|| just let me ||HIT||

[odd shoal]

||If you get a clear with one weapon and then do another with no heat does that progress the story farther or does it only work like that for boss drops||

[tawny nacelle]

||it advances the story||

[grave mist]

The story will progress no matter how you clear. ||Heat and changing weapons are only for more bounties||

[jaunty copper]

hey i got to second phase for the first time

[odd shoal]

Nice!

[tawny nacelle]

🥳

[south sorrel]

And you won for the first time!

[jaunty copper]

his first phase still have to beat second to escape

[south sorrel]

I was encouraging you

[jaunty copper]

ill get him soon

[south sorrel]

You died?

[jaunty copper]

i didnt beat him no i was close

[south sorrel]

Pro top: try moving out of the way when he’s about to attack

[jaunty copper]

im working on seeing the thin line for spin but the jab has no effect

[jaunty copper]

rng came in finally

[rustic oak]

So I’ve heard hades has a keepsake,m but you need to give him 2 nectar for it. How do you give him the second nectar, as hades never will take a gift even if I have multiple in my inventory

[slow ferry]

keep beating the game

[gray haven]

That's spoilers. Please use spoiler tags.

@jaunty copper final boss encounter is entirely spoilers.

[eternal bough]

Damn I just cant finish a run

I have like 25 (I think) hours and I always die on the rooms after ||Theseus and Astreus||

[misty ridge]

spoiler

[eternal bough]

I might have a bit less than that tho

oh what

[misty ridge]

end boss

[eternal bough]

How do I mark spoiler?

[misty ridge]

check pins

[eternal bough]

Ah I got it

I didn't know it was an end boss?!?

[misty ridge]

I'm a little confused what you mean too

[eternal bough]

Like tips on how to not die on those small rooms after the fight

I use the bow and its kinda hard

[misty ridge]

do you mean ||theseus & asterius?||

[eternal bough]

YES IM AN IDIOT

sorry typing is hard

oops caps

[misty ridge]

uhm, try not to ||stand in poison||, note all ||cure|| locations & don't stop moving for too long

||satyrs|| will just use you as target practice if you do

[eternal bough]

huh, okay. Also what is like the normal amount of time it takes to get your first run?

[misty ridge]

if you see a skull on a preview it's gonna be a miniboss or stronger encounter, and ||the sack|| will never be found on your 1st try

[misty ridge]

varied

some take 30 mins or less, others take over 1h

and then there's those that fall in the middle