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I love the classic shield's special, when i use zeus shield does it change the way it moves or something?
yes
ew delete that
Yes it turns the special into a disc which moves slowly
ew disgusting and trash
hrmmm shall do, it isnt spoilery is it. also i believe u hahah, im 100% sure that would be way better than the advice i got in one youtube that said "make sure you use athena in the start and everything will be better" 
the two aspects i dislike the most are the zeus and achilles aspects
One really important thing about the Zeus shield, and what drew me to it - you don't lose your block with your special like you do with the regular shield.
how dare you
||Zeus shield|| is not that bad actually, I found it easier to use than other shield ||aspects|| at low levels.
i will not accept zeus aspect slander
wdym so while throwing the special ur blocking too 
so how good is chiron? im thinking to get that but i only have one titan blood left
yea thats what initially attracted me
chiron is my fave bow aspect
I believe you can't block until you catch the shield again right?
yeah i read the description and it took my interest
ohh i like chiron and the hera aspect so far i like most of the bow aspects
haha lmao i think i know which vid you are talking about
Yes and the fact that it continously chips at their health so if you have a pesky butterfly ball just use special on Zeus shield
because it is disappointing
is it
i did not notice that
for %20
you get like
i mean
its not smth you would aim to get in a run
sadge
unless you want higher chance for free bounty
free bounty?
But now I personally use Chaos shield more because I maxed it and it's better than the low level one
you never fished in ||greece||?
oh
i did
those are kinda rare
one time only tho
Check ||Mom's garden|| for fish
and that increases the chances
also im using the box gloves and i dont know what the hell am i suppose to build around
just today actually
Like ||hey mom|| oh wait I need to fish
haha yea lmao
yes... level 5 is better than level 1
you can fish there 😮 i thought it was ||just that pond near the cliff with the sunrise||
sometimes fish spawn in ||the back of her garden||
box gloves ?
I think it's really popular, I hear a lot about people going for the merciful end duo
ah you mean the ||aspect of gilgamesh gloves||
furry time
i like those
they are ok
no || ENUMA ELIIIIIIIISHHHHH||
||whaaat i didnt know that at all! is this something you can do the moment you beat the final boss aka hades or you have to unlock first omgg. i only ever go straight to the mom and never try exploring her surroundings cause i always assume that what i see at the moment around her is all there is im am shocked .. ||
It’s rng after end boss
It’s always rng
||Hunts you with a floating heart||
poseidon
Depends on who the other god is tho
she has a tracking charm
im gonna fight aphro
i say choose aphro
LMAOO
oh ehm right imma check that out ||as soon as i can beat hades with a 5 min tight deadline XD hahah|| fr tho if i beat the final boss today that woulda been my fastest time 
oh ok
And what level it is
go for it
||it can happen everytime you beat hades for the first 10 runs||
id pref poseidon since u can just dash thru his wave and then it does a big circle
but aphroc harm tracks closely
Aphro in elysium is risky cuz shield guys
|| so its not there anymore after that. like ten wins or ten escape attempts? sugar snapss, hope i can still access the area||
bruh aphro is one of the gods i avoid fighting if i can
You’ll find out when you get to that point
||what point i beat him 4 times so do i have a chance.|| but orayt orayt if its a huge spoiler imma concede with you not saying XD. i have spoiled myself already a couple of times cause of my impatience hahah not huge ish spoilers but still spoilers
yea das true
yea at least u gave an option hahah. option appreciated. also was just too curious abt the ||fishing thing ya'll were talking about|| also since that was what you were talking about i assumed as well that maybe i actually am familiar about that part of the game already XD
haha well yea just make sure to check the surroundings everytime imo
i was gon say aphro isnt that bad to fight but the last time i upset her yea....i guess it went bad but i never died though upsetting aphro which is why i still think ||demeter|| is the more feakier one to challenge cause ive died a bunch of times cause of that and also posiedon
oh yea ||demeter|| is the one i avoid the most
but aphro is just annoying to deal with imo
yea i think its just how she responds idk. i mean sure fits her being the god of "love" idk i might be wrong god of something to do with attraction haha. but yea she annoying
dusa and artemis are best girl. imma stand on that hill of mine for that XD
oh when i said annoying to deal with i meant her charm thing lmao
not the character herself
ohh lol thought the character
but yes i fully agree with this
to be fair zeus is the most annoying which is why ||when i did a second save i decided to make zeus the last person i ever gave nectar too and only gave him nectar until the others had nectar|| and also everytime there would be a trial id also constantly and purposely not pick zeus at all 😂 the dialogue i got from that was just hilarious
Zagreus ples not like him i beg haha ||dont blame demeter for not liking zeus tbh||
Hermes has no duo
duo means two
and also you can only get a certain amount of gods in one run
i was asking if there is any god duo that doesnt grant a duo
oh
11 hours of what
playing hades
wdym
how many hours do you have
it was my free day
if its a good game i can
So i kinda messed up on the titan blood thing and put some in aspect of zag in some how do i fix this? I don't want to start a new profile
The answer: No
you cant do it
messed up
but you can easily get it back
(by fighting bosses and trading)
Ok so what do i do next
"by fighting bosses and trading"
Like what do i put the blood into
On spear?
"literally anything but the zag aspect"
what weapon do you like the most?
Blade
then put it in another blade aspect
But
go to pinned messages in story discussion if you want to learn how to
So if im correct i have to put 5x titan blood into spear (non zag) to get guan yu so i can unluck other 4th aspects?
yes
Ok thanks'
isn't it any non-zag aspects on any weapon for guan yu?
so how do i unlock keepsakes?
I have given all the nectar to zeus and i have a locked heart now
i dont want a romancing zeus
Keepsakes are unlocked by giving every character one nectar. You can't romance the gods, just deepen your bond
can i get more than one duo in a run?
so i can have artemis poseidon and artemis demter at once?
what's arty poseidon again
mirage shot
oh yeah it does work
it does place down another, smaller crystal i think
(weaker* not sure about smaller)
rip
Advice: Unlock every weapon first and get some runs with each. Then you should be confident to try out and get to know the hammer upgrades. Everyone has to explore for the true personal playstyle.
shield pogg
tbh, Aegis is pretty OP atm
Yup
honestly think dionysus and hermes best
Ares doom is broken on special
and athena has divine dash
but wing boi and wine boi have so much utility
pls allow media
what caused you to fear media wtf...
aint nobody gonna send the 7th transformation of poop monster
people can raid at any time and spam images, better safe than sorry i suppose
Use a image host like imgur
Or post it to your personal Discord works too
My go-to weapons are now sword and shield
I mean shield is gud but too slow for my liking
I won like 10 games in a row and now that I am trying "builds" I am losing. Ugh
How did you do it before
It’s hard for me to win runs without builds
I need to learn to play more flex
Any tips?
Killed Megara using shield, but it’s a clutch win.
I’m willing to try a revenge boon build
if I have +30% move speed, how much bonus dmg would I have from 75% special delivery?
75% of 30%?
tbh I mostly took the most "rare" boon I could usually. I used the +15% gold per stage and stacked gold on the first few stages. Then I used charon's keepsake before Elysium. Spent some gold on Charon boons that helped me out. Made sure to buy some before going into Styx. If you're lucky you can go into the Hades fight with Charon items helping you out
Obviously I took things that were just good... like cluster/rocket on the rail
believe so
I'm having a bit of a hard time with ||beowulf - it feels very slow||
probably just takes practice but I'm not too motivated to spend blood on it or play it
if you dont spend blood on it, it's pretty garbage
just do a heatless run with it for the prophecy until you feel like spending blood
I did make it to the end with a bull shot build
I'm trying to unlock || Artemis' || final heart but I can't seem to get it. I've || talked to her many times and had a lot of dialogues about Callisto, but the last few runs it looks like she's just giving me generic short dialogues || and it's still not unlocked. I don't know what else I'm meant to do.
afaik nothing, just get lucky i guess
I guess. It just really feels like I've exhausted all the event dialogue though and am just getting generic short messages now
i guess you're just getting unlucky then..?
I suppose so, I guess I'll just keep running with the trinket and see what happens
I have other things to run for still anyway
sounds good i suppose, you can work for other bonds too-
I can't remember what you have to do to unlock her companion
just keep playing, giving her nectars when you can
but iirc her companion is the best one
((not companion))
arty has a companion?
((she's olympian not chthonic))
((also are companions something i should spoiler tag that's kinda late game lol))
yeah i guess but in a normal playthrough you probably wouldn't- or is that justme
true
unlocked my first ||hidden aspect||!
what for? its weak until then?
Its ||guan yu|| right?
yes, how did you know?
||You cant unlock others unless you have that one first|| @marble hill
yea dont use it till you max it
its bad at base
but once you max it its really good
thx guys
there's a difference between ||unlocking and revealing - unlocking costs blood but revealing doesn't - and to reveal other hidden aspects you only need to reveal guan yu, not actually spend blood on it||
I was wondering why people seem to say keyboard only is pepega for this game.
What is Pepega?
It gets autoaim. Is the analog movement really that important over KB only/M+KB
Umm, I think it's preference but controller seems a lot easier in some aspects
i've heard people say KBM is more awkward but honestly i dont really have any issues with inputting on keyboard
its bad because you cant aim stuff like rail special and trippy shot as accurately or quickly
oh wait it s possible to only use keyboard?
No one wants to see this bud
Made it to Elysium for the first time
noice
Good job
make sure to kill the warriors twice
Also gotten better in boss killing
I just managed to get to elysium without losing my death defied
I got the self healing stygius thing, so I managed to draintank Alecto and the hydra
stygian soul for cast that reloads every 3-5s?
having unhealthy fixation before i got to alecto also helps
since you have cursed i extremely recommend to get as many centaur hearts as possible
"you can't outheal what oneshots you"
-me probably
How do i win?
play the game
get to know patterns
find out what boons & weapons work well for you - and ||aspects|| when you unlock them
yes, you can change it in settings
had to pause because I arrived at the office, but he's halfway there
tips for 2nd phase?
||theres a blind spot near where the lasers shoot where you can hug and wont take damage so if you feel like you can reach the boss and hug him before the lasers shoot do that||
avoid the pots
thanks!
||hug dad ftw||
I was so close 😢
I heard 2nd phase is easier than the first, I should practice reading his patterns.
||I find his second phase harder for me, lots of area denial and I start playing aggressively which is a bad idea, some people don't like the first phase invisibility but the second phase has much more annoying things to deal with||
yikes
||It's alright once you get the hang of it, you'll know what to expect and when to expect it, and you'll have a better idea of when to attack and when to run away, trying to get a bit of dmg in at every opportunity you find might not be the best play, and can get you in a way worse situation if its a bad call, so yea just play safely, get to know the moveset of both phases, get used to the timing of dashes to avoid taking hits and so on... And it'll be all good
||
wait a minute, there's ||romance||?
i find the ||first phase much more bothersome than the second due only due to his spawning of enemies and the fact that he is invulerable while doing so. The difference between the time to kill a few flying skulls and four shield bearers is a huge one, while the second phase is more consistent.||
Fair enough
||Excuse me, [REDACTED] has a 2nd Health bar!?||
||well, I barely beat phase 1 so they basically killed me immediately||
yo @glossy marsh please spoiler tag the details of the ||[REDACTED]|| fight, as that's considered spoilers in this channel 
Sorry
ty 
thanks for spoiling
||I personally find phase 1 harder for the same reasons as Krieg. 2nd phase is easiest, thanks to pillars, just need to learn to stay far away if ranged, or if melee, learn when to attack and when to run away||
is there anything to do after beating hades completely
yes
What do you mean by "completely"? All achs?
yes
is there anything else to do after that
yes
like what
Just keep playing and you'll eventually get a prophecy to continue
||Mom should've talked by now about wanting to solve the problems with the olympians, that's what||
||8 heat, 16 heat, 32 heat, all prophecies, all achievements, epilogue, all bonds|| and probably some more that i cant remember
You can also go for other prophecies, bonds, steam achs, etc
oh yeah
theres a lot to do in this game
But I understand if you're not the completionist type and don't feel like getting achs and prophecies
yh i still have to get all the hidden aspects aswell
plus, you can always push yourself further with getting faster times and doing ||higher heats||
But yeah the big thing you wanna go for is ||mom's plan for epilogue so just keep playing and talking to her. And.. getting other stuff meanwhile is also fun||
A lot is technically optional but surprisingly fun, lots if replayability with aspects and ||heats||
hide the names please, they are a spoiler in this chat 
Hidden aspect names are indeed a spoiler-
hopefully no one saw that
Well, other than us I don't think :P
BTW do you not know how to spoiler tag? You do ||text that is spoiler tagged||
basically anything new that happens after you reach the end boss that first time is a spoiler here
including who/what the end boss is
hidden aspects and spoilers beyond final boss should be hidden
You can get hidden aspects before that if you'you're lucky I guess
But in most cases, no
mhmm
Maybe, but I don't recall that being on wiki simply
you have to reach & fight end boss
It makes sense that you need to reach the surface once before unlocking them. ||They all want to be brought up there.|| First you have to prove that you can make it 
sry
||Redacted|| is walling me
Who should I gift the nectar too?
skelly & cerberus have great keepsakes for just starting the game
I prefer using her boon for the end game boss though
eurydice is the best god with the best boons
Also i like how the acorn looks like after defeating the boss and they show ||your stats after beating the boss. It gives me this premium vibe. Like i won in premium style XD. Maybe its prons just me tho|| but yea
Top tier singing, top tier character. Really whats not to love abt. Eurydice 
that did not answer my question
also orphy is her man
Imma answering waiit hahahh ||i guess not stats per say but like after you beat hades, and theres the thing that pops up that shows what boons youve used and like how long you took to do the run. Like i just like how it looks like there on the side after winning. Looks cool||
Yea
what is it
the acorn has nothing to do with any of that
Yea i know it just looks cool im saying oraayt compared to how the other keeps sakes would look like when u win. Idk its my aesthetic 
bruh
Sorry, I thought Aggy reminded me in time.
The only thing keeping me going is seeing all the victory boasts. I dream for the day i win in the end without feeling like the life is being sucked out of me in game and in real life

ok so basically I can tear through everything but as soon as I meet ||theseus and the minotaur|| I get my ass handed to me
you should learn their patterns and how to deal with them
aka when to get away, when to barge in, etc
my usual strategy is deal with the minotaur first
best way to deal with the shield?
once minotaur is gone, dealing with theseus (shield) is a lot less annoying
what weapon do you use?
okay so
you can hold bull rush, when he attacks you throw the rush
by rushing you'll probably be behind him, so you can spam dash attack
if you're not a bull rush fan, you can try dashing around the arena slowly getting closer and then dashing through him and attacking behind him,he's gonna keep turning to shield, keep dashing behind him
and watch out for spin attack, make sure you're ready to dash out or bull rush/shield up
I am a fan of bull rush, I don't really use the special much unless my entire build is based around it
thanks for the help, I'll try out your tips soon!
good luck, if you're good at bull rushing then abuse it owo
Me too! Although i wish i could just beat theseus first at least once! Just cause he's annoying 
it took me like 10 tries dw
this is why i have ||EM3|| on
spoilers i guess
shouldn't talk about that any more in this channel
also sup ataino
how do you unlock the hidden aspects again
you gotta get the spear one first right
yep
how much blood do i need for that
you need ||5 titan blood spent on any non-zag aspects and then just get lucky with achilles' dialogue||
kk
then from there its unique for each one
for the first hidden, i think it doesn't matter
I'm not sure what to spend my titan blood on. I only have a few and I spent one on the spear dash attack which is cool. I like it but people seem to be saying spin attack build is better.
i usually see people saying spin attack is not good-
hm weird
I dunno what to go then. I can't see the last aspect yet and the first one is boring just raw attack damage
well, i'd say just go for what you think is fun, not "better"
fairs. I would if not for the rarity of titan blood
Like there's not even enough to fully max one weapon let alone them all
There is, you just haven’t gotten to that point yet 
Ah fair enough. As far as I see there was 1 per weapon every time you beat meg and then occasionally you can trade lots of resources for one but I shall see in the future whenever I win
It’s a spoiler
Gotcha

What’s the best way to beat Meg? Is it honestly just spamming
well i use the bow so i kinda just dash around while using the special
what weapon?
Sword. The first one u get. I dont know if u get another one
dash strike is your main source of damage
you do get other weapons
Ok
you spam dash
I mean I beat her but I was basically screwed after that
Just gotta get used to her moveset, dash away when the big aoe comes, avoid projectiles
yeah
Eventually with mirror upgrades and decent play you'll get out of there ready for the next biome
I beat Meg again but it gets a lot harder
you should be getting stronger with the mirror
and you, better, with learning the patterns
Yeah I am
Some people were stuck on Meg many times, just keep trying and understanding her moves and also finding your preferred playstyle
^This, find your own rhythm and it will click.
is there anything in game that shows you what bounties u have completed for each weapon?
also which weapon do u guys like/hate the most
i rly dont like the bow past like the first area
in zags room there is the book of prophecies that will show you I think. Someone please correct me if im wrong.
The only thing you get in the beginning is the map that you see between chambers (remember you can just quit and restart a run if you grabbed the wrong one). Eventually you unlock a better way to keep track of bounties.
map?
Yeah when you start a run or clear a biome there is a short cinematic of Zagreus advancing up a map and it will show you if you've cleared a bounty or not.
You'll see a question mark if you have not gotten that bounty.
How does privileged status work?
apply two status affects, such as doom, hangover, chill weak, and marks, on the same enemy, and you will deal more damage to them
I see, I have doom and chill stacked together right now in my 31st run.
Also weak
someone said marked doesnt count for priv status
Hunter's Mark counts.
o ok
yea it counts but its not a good way to prock it :/
if youre doing a hm build ff is better imo
just get that base damage
charm doesn't count, but the others should
everyone has a status of some sort except Hermes & Chaos
^^yea and any combination of 2 count towards ps
I hope the acorn works when I face ||redacted|| again
yea acorn works on every boss
and its mathematically better on final boss than skelly tooth
I ditched the tooth as soon as I reached Styx
So, I’m getting Hades for the Switch tomorrow but I’ve talked with a few friends who told me of Duo Boons and was wondering which boons would be better for your first run depending on what god appears or what boons are recommended to try to grab if able?
to be completely honest dont worry about optimability or duos when you first start the game. meet all of the gods, find the one you like, and try to have fun with builds. but if you want my genuine opinion athena is an amazing god for survivability and has some fun duos like merciful end with ares. aphrodite is just chunky in terms of damage(same with artemis(also some fun duos like mirage shot with poseidon or deadly reversal with athena, splitting headache with dio is also fun)), and zeus is pretty fun. besides that its dependent on how you play and what you like. i personally dont like dionysus at all and thus have a negative view on almost everything he gives but but some people swear by him. so just experiment and try to find stuff out on your own :3
hunting blades (artemis/ares) is a very fun duo too
Thanks so much ~ I’ve heard Athena has some amazing boons ~
I want to try out a Spear Build on my first run if I’m able to unlock the spear once im able because long range has always been a preference of mine but I’ve heard some gods are better then others for bosses also xD
yea but a lot of it comes down to preference too
i personally love bow and since you said you like range id def recommend it
I forgot what mine was, but I think it's Poseidon Dio (or Aphrodite)
for bow if you unlocked aspects hera is really strong
Bow and Fists I’ve seen on a play through before but experimenting around on my first time with everything maybe best then change up on my second run? ~
The aspects of each weapon are like crazy long to acquire though right??? Most of what I know is from friends or streams sorry xD
||it gets easier to unlock after you beat the final boss the first time|| but you're right i think it needs 2 bloods for hera
I may try out a bow run also because Im a bit curious about that Magnet thank you ~
np have fun
i was a firm believer of chiron until i played hera with aphrodite cast
it's like having a shotgun
Have fun!
Thanks y’all!!! ~
When I played the game I started off with the sword and decided I would first beat the final boss with only the sword before moving on to other weapons
It definitely taught me how to time evading attacks and how to watch all the stuff flying at the screen and what stuff is actually gonna hit you
I haven't tried enough of the other weapons to have a good opinion on which weapon I like the most; unsurprisingly I like the sword the most right now lmao (the special is probably my favorite of the weapons I've tried so far)
I tried the shield and it feels so slow; it's okay (I think by the nature of the weapon it would naturally be slower)
The lance is nice, but the special isn't as satisfying; the dash attack feels nice though
The fists are nice too, but the special has a long cooldown period where you're more vulnerable (if you don't get any of the upgrades for it)
Haven't tried the ranged ones but I think I'll probably enjoy them since they feel like they'd be safer, but the dark thirst thing hasn't chosen any of them yet.
The fist's hadouken upgrade for the special (which turns it into a projectile and takes away the post-attack cooldown time) is pretty silly and great though
it feels like it turns into a bow that also lets you hit things fast close up
Regardless all of them do "feel" very different and are still fun to use
Congrats o:!
do I have to repeatedly beat ||him|| up for the epilogue?
oh god lol
I only have like 20 runs in. How early am I in-game? Also tags are welcome given the sheer amount of servers I'm on haha
Depends, have you reached the end
You are ultra early
Well by runs I assume you dont mean wins, so you still have a lot to do, mirror, prophecies, keepsakes and so on... I'm close to 200 runs in (not wins) and I still have plenty of things to do/ and plenty of things that I never tried and want to try
I have most definitely NOT reached the end haha. It takes me a while to develop skill in a game haha.
also I'm out of practice with controllers tbh.
That's fair, as long as you're enjoying it, no need to rush the end 
I'm having a blast haha
Although I'm taking my time with the game as well haha.
Once I build enough skill I will try a fresh file run too.
hopin' that works.
I just want that special dialogue haha
i'm dumb. Until now I was just getting every boon I could whatever god gave it but it's so much better focusing on one and getting synergy
How do I get more diamonds. Only got one and need 2 to upgrade the contactor
kill hydra with another weapon
and you can trade in 10 nectar for 1 diamond
and 5 keys for 1 nectar
and 10 gemstones for 1 key
right
ty
but you can't get a trinket thing to guarantee a hammer like you can with the gods
I see
you are guaranteed two hammers on your run
and if you arrive at Styx without two hammers, a hammer will be a guaranteed spawn at Charon's shop
damn 2 aint much but the spin usually comes in first one. just idk what gods to get for a spin build after hammers
grab massive spin and use artemis attack
massive crit spins
Gotcha
Pretty sure it is a Styx room, never seen one in Charon's shop but I definitely have in a Styx room.
ive seen videos that say seeded runs
how do i insert a seed? is it a feature in game?
It's not. They're either using a mod or getting it from a savefile
And even then the game is very hard to pin on a seed since it changes via the movement of the shades in the level
I see
I thought it was like isaac where you can have seeds entered in game
Didnt know the seed is based on the movement of shades tho thats interesting to know

the shades, the way you're casting, lots of rng in the game
Mostly, that's just using "Give Up" to replay the same seed once you find a good starting boon or hammer.
I've attempted escape over 50 times
still haven't succeeded
im desperate at this point, can someone just give me an OP build or smth
How much of the mirror do you have unlocked?
I like the spear
Also, if it makes you feel better, I took 80 runs to get a clear
I have a set of options max
i took around 80 too i think
like, everything onscreen is at max
everything unlocked?
i meant every mirror section but that too i guess
I'd try a cast run with Achilles spear
ah
have you experimented with both sides of the mirror?
Ah, rip
yep
ok so for spear
I recommend going for a good call and hoping for quick favor from Hermes
i think you can go for achilles then try finding seeking blades or smth?
Hunting blades
usually i use guan yu
I dont have any titan blood
used it all already
It's an Artemis Ares duo, so you just need Ares cast and Artemis attack/special
yup
you can always get more
getting ares legendary would also be good for it
so ares/artemis?
styx shop lmao
Same for the two Ares boons that buff blade rifts
merciful end build time
on spear?
ah frick
on spear its eh imo
Yeah, this isn't fists
there's styx shop, infernal broker, prophecies
yep!
then it is time for ares cast
my recommendation
I'd go Ares first
ares zone 1, artemis rest?
alright
oh but
Then if you don't get a natural Artemis, use her keepsake in Asphodel
I'll give it a shot
you cant force boons more than once
well yea i meant for one god
yea
What do you have currently on?
Fiery Presence
Dark Regen
Death Defiance
Greater Reflex
Boiling Blood
Infernal Soul
Golden Touch
Thick Skin
Priveliged Status
Dark Foresight
Quick question @sudden brook how far do you typically get?
Hades
sometimes Theseus and Minotaur
I don't like using fiery myself
@sudden brook If you haven't tried abusing Privileged Status much I would focus on getting synergy with boons to use it.
Oh yeah your first clear is right around the corner, I got to final chamber 8 times I a row before I cleared it.
I end up backstabbing all the time 
Demeter's cast is any easy way, I found, to apply chill all over the board.
For this Ares/Artemis run, I'd switch to Family Favorite over Privileged Status, otherwise whatever you prefer.
hunting blades?
do I focus on special, cast or attack
Cast
Truth - Ares/Artemis aren't stacking curses at all.
you need ares cast
alright
Hunting Blades is a cast run
it's called hunting blades for a reason - doom isn't involved at all
If you go with Achilles for aspect, then maybe something on your special? You'll want to rush before each cast to get the bonus
Otherwise, yeah, all cast focused
that's ok
idk what I was thinking
That works too
a lot of top players choose aspect of Zagreus from what I've seen.
I prefer shadow presence over fiery
Level 1 Achilles gives you a 50% bonus on your next four casts after a rush via your special if you're curious
but that's cuz it's easy to get backstab when you dash around all the time 
I'm feeling achilles
zag aspect isnt bad at all tbh
i mean my fave and go to weapon is zag aspect stygius lmao
here goes nothing
Don't forget your call
Yeah
so this is a cast build right?
Yep
I've never done one before
They're fun
Stygian or infernal soul, everyone?
I usually prefer stygian
I run Stygian by default, even if I'm just using my cast to get a mirror bonus, I like having it recharge.
One less thing to worry about
I will add that I didn't use cast enough when I first started playing either. Learning to incorporate cast into your play-style - any cast at all - is going to improve your chances of success.
^^^^^^^^^^
what daedalus upgrades should I be going for
This build probably doesn't depend on particular upgrades
I don't any of them will make or break you.
Doesn't matter too much once you get your cast buffed and doing all the work, so whatever you're comfortable with using till then.
I like ||Demeter|| cast
Extending Jab, Flurry Jab, Triple Jab are all safe hammers
Especially if you get the upgrade. Faster and better targeting.
||Chill|| stacks better on faster moves, you might prefer that on attack, it's like hangover
ok
Doesn't ||Demeter's|| attack knock back too?
Only Poseidon's boons add knockback
so hide the name in this chat
Oh... crap. Sorry!
it's something you encounter after you reach end boss
Should they force an Athena now and go for stubborn roots?
so I have ares cast obv
Now you hope for Artemis
then you wait for the duo
call, special or pressure points
you don't have the mirror bonus to help you get it
Call or special count towards the duo
sorry for asking a question every 0.1 seconds
It's alright
that's what this channel is for
I'd recommend the call it's great on the final boss
lol
yea casts are cool
once you get boiling blood if you don't already it'll be much better
Casts are great, yeah
See? Just using casts at all has made you better!
I have it unlocked, I just didnt put it on
I always have to remind myself to utilize all the tools - cast, call, ||companions||
yea its really hard to utilize everything at first
but once you get how
you can get better
That's why I censored it!
what taught me to do so was doing lambent plume runs lmao
pretty endgame stuff
||you need to give ambrosia to a specific character||
This is why I think over-relying on a call is a good way to get a first clear, you can screw up everything else and still let the olympus save the day!
||I've only given ambrosia to charon||
kekw
I put all my nectar into him because why not
after putting at least one in everyone else first ofc
that is true lmao
another way to get a first clear is by divine dash or bull rush cheesing lmao
@sudden brook let us know how the fury fight goes, if you feel like you are a damage dealing machine it is a good sign
noice
its tisiphone, she stands still a lot
oh yea since youre going for a cast run
Awwww... I like Divine Dash... heh.
try getting artemis legendary
arty + pos duo can also work well for hunting blades
noice
That achilles bull rush is great for getting around asphodel chambers
Especially since you can just recall the spear if you chuck it in a bad spot.
oh god
what
I just got a chaos boon that hides chamber previews
bruh
in return for +1 casts
worth?
yes
It's a happy accident! Let's work with it.
I'm probably going to miss every artemis boon in asphodel now but eh
nah
Do you have a ||Fated mirror upgrade?|| ||(Fated Persuasion/Authority)||
that is not gonna work my guy
special, pressure points or hunter's mark
special
special yea
Alright, took a lunch break, how's the run coming?
I got stunlocked by a gorgon inside a cluster of shielded dracons
bye bye two stacks of death defiance
Rip
You can come back from that easily
pray for pat
At least you can buy those back via a well/Athena boons
do you have the duo boon yet?
yea most likely
Hopefully, yeah
well rip
If you get enough boons from at least one of those two you will likely get the duo.
^
It's pretty rare that you don't get a duo unless you're really trying not to, just usually sooner is better
There's still some Ares boons that upgrade your cast regardless at least
Oh man those blade rifts upgrades are so sweet
Especially the legendary
What did it?
I wanted to grab regen casts anyway
Yeah, Stygian Soul is great
time to go commit burn
I got the darkness from hydra at least
I just wont bother doing elysium on 33 hp no death defiance
you might get kiss of styx
You might get lucky and see Pat
i mean
It doesn't hurt to get some practice against the Elysium mobs with this build anyway
as well as this
It's up to you though
Show of hands if you've used more than six DDs in a run? ✋
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There will be Charon's wells throughout Elysium and styx, save that coin
welp I died
better luck next time
thanks for the help by the way
Sounds like the build was a good fit though
just keep trying and observe attack patterns
you should be able to get the win soon
if you need any help just ask here
^^^^
should I go infernal or stygian soul
i usually go infernal
and boiling or abyssal blood
Depends on build
I prefer Stygian but you'll need extra casts from Chaos/Artemis legendary/Wells
Stygian is the more idiot proof
abyssal is the one with extra damage right
Nope, that's boiling
You trying for Ares/Artemis again or something different?
ares artemis yes
I don't actually know which weapon you were talking about, but no. No Zagreus Aspect is the first choice for any top player unless they just really enjoy the aspect for some reason—but not because it's the best.
Good luck! Hopefully you get the duo sooner this time
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well, didnt even get the cast boon this time
great
I can do attack, special or dash
and then just hope and pray I guess
Dash would lead to the same upgrades that affect your cast
Could end up with both if you get the cast soon
ares boon third room
fingers crossed
I got it
and its purple
:D
what are the other core boons I'm looking for by the way?
engulfing vortex, duo boon, artemis legendary?
Artemis: Deadly Strike, Deadly Flourish, Hunter Dash, or Artemis' Aid,
Do you have the codex?
yep
@sudden brook any of this
geez, having the dash and the cast is great
I'd gun for Artemis's aid out of all those. The codex will help you keep them straight.
^
Black Metal or Engulfing Vortex go for Ares' legendary, whereas Artemis wants Pressure Points and Support Fire for hers.
And yes
It is. One good greater call on the final boss and you will practically taste victory.
Learn his patterns, you'll be able to beat him without any dmg
What debuff?
chaos 
In 2nd phase he does the same, just a bit faster and his rush and jump attack sends wave
I'm trolling
just lost all my death defiance to alecto
yeah
Still happens to me after 75 clears tbh
Alecto is the hardest fury too
But with the blade rifts you get to give her a taste of her own medicine at least
well I guess this run is screwed
Core boons typically refers to only Attack, Special, Cast, Dash, and Call. 
Rip
What are you trying?
Hunting blades Achilles
At least this counts as experience
Do you have Fated Persuasion yet?
nearly
Not gonna be easy to make that work reliably without Fated Persuasion.
Does it need to be that build, or are you just trying to get a first clear?
just trying for a first clear
Hmmm. What aspects do you have?
demeter, eris, chiron, achilles
What level are Chiron and Eris?
Yes, one sec.
Chiron. Start with the Eternal Rose and get Heartbreak Strike, then look for Drunken Flourish. Swap to Overflowing Cup in Asphodel if you didn't get Drunken Flourish in Tartarus.
Mirror should be like that.
so you limit the hermes pool
Because it removes Lightning Rod and Flurry Cast from their pools.
is flurry cast the dumb thing where it casts faster if u hold



