#h1-for-new-players

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weak lotus
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honestly what helped me get better at the weapons is watching guides and asking in #h1-builds-and-combat lmao

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yup this too

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it all really comes down to experience and experimenting in the end

neat warren
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I love the classic shield's special, when i use zeus shield does it change the way it moves or something?

maiden ruin
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yes

neat warren
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ew delete that

maiden ruin
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it is a slow moving spinning thing

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thats why we call it beyblade

drowsy plover
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Yes it turns the special into a disc which moves slowly

neat warren
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ew disgusting and trash

signal crest
maiden ruin
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you are trash

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do not disrespect the beyblade

signal crest
grave mist
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One really important thing about the Zeus shield, and what drew me to it - you don't lose your block with your special like you do with the regular shield.

weak lotus
drowsy plover
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||Zeus shield|| is not that bad actually, I found it easier to use than other shield ||aspects|| at low levels.

weak lotus
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i will not accept zeus aspect slander

signal crest
neat warren
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so how good is chiron? im thinking to get that but i only have one titan blood left

weak lotus
grave mist
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I believe you can't block until you catch the shield again right?

neat warren
signal crest
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ohh i like chiron and the hera aspect so far i like most of the bow aspects

weak lotus
drowsy plover
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Yes and the fact that it continously chips at their health so if you have a pesky butterfly ball just use special on Zeus shield

neat warren
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lmao i got huge catch....

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why is this legendary

weak lotus
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why do you sound disappointed

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huge catch is really good

maiden ruin
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because it is disappointing

neat warren
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is it

neat warren
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for %20

weak lotus
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you get like

maiden ruin
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kinda trash

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and hard to get

weak lotus
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i mean

maiden ruin
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i have gotten it once

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because it was scripted

weak lotus
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its not smth you would aim to get in a run

neat warren
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if it isnt letting me fish in chaos

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then its trash

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sadge

maiden ruin
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sadge

weak lotus
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unless you want higher chance for free bounty

maiden ruin
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free bounty?

drowsy plover
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But now I personally use Chaos shield more because I maxed it and it's better than the low level one

weak lotus
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you never fished in ||greece||?

maiden ruin
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oh

signal crest
maiden ruin
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those are kinda rare

signal crest
drowsy plover
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Check ||Mom's garden|| for fish

weak lotus
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and that increases the chances

neat warren
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also im using the box gloves and i dont know what the hell am i suppose to build around

signal crest
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just today actually

weak lotus
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so its pretty good imo

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but its an extra

drowsy plover
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Like ||hey mom|| oh wait I need to fish

weak lotus
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haha yea lmao

maiden ruin
signal crest
neat warren
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so...

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arte or ares for gloves idk if doom is a great idea

drowsy plover
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sometimes fish spawn in ||the back of her garden||

neat warren
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cat gloves

grave mist
# neat warren so...

I think it's really popular, I hear a lot about people going for the merciful end duo

signal crest
maiden ruin
signal crest
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i like those

maiden ruin
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they are ok

neat warren
maiden ruin
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yes

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billie eilish

signal crest
# drowsy plover sometimes fish spawn in ||the back of her garden||

||whaaat i didnt know that at all! is this something you can do the moment you beat the final boss aka hades or you have to unlock first omgg. i only ever go straight to the mom and never try exploring her surroundings cause i always assume that what i see at the moment around her is all there is im am shocked .. ||

misty ridge
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It’s always rng

neat warren
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should i fight against aphro?

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idk what she does in trial

misty ridge
wary valley
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shes kinda hard

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whos the other choice

neat warren
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poseidon

misty ridge
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Depends on who the other god is tho

wary valley
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she has a tracking charm

neat warren
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im gonna fight aphro

wary valley
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i say choose aphro

neat warren
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LMAOO

signal crest
# misty ridge It’s always rng

oh ehm right imma check that out ||as soon as i can beat hades with a 5 min tight deadline XD hahah|| fr tho if i beat the final boss today that woulda been my fastest time shadegrief

wary valley
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oh ok

misty ridge
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And what level it is

wary valley
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go for it

weak lotus
wary valley
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id pref poseidon since u can just dash thru his wave and then it does a big circle

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but aphroc harm tracks closely

misty ridge
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Aphro in elysium is risky cuz shield guys

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weak lotus
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bruh aphro is one of the gods i avoid fighting if i can

misty ridge
weak lotus
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yea

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tbh i think i just did a huge spoiler lmao

misty ridge
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You hid it at least

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It was spoiler tagged

signal crest
# misty ridge You’ll find out when you get to that point

||what point i beat him 4 times so do i have a chance.|| but orayt orayt if its a huge spoiler imma concede with you not saying XD. i have spoiled myself already a couple of times cause of my impatience hahah not huge ish spoilers but still spoilers

signal crest
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yea at least u gave an option hahah. option appreciated. also was just too curious abt the ||fishing thing ya'll were talking about|| also since that was what you were talking about i assumed as well that maybe i actually am familiar about that part of the game already XD

weak lotus
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haha well yea just make sure to check the surroundings everytime imo

signal crest
# weak lotus bruh aphro is one of the gods i avoid fighting if i can

i was gon say aphro isnt that bad to fight but the last time i upset her yea....i guess it went bad but i never died though upsetting aphro which is why i still think ||demeter|| is the more feakier one to challenge cause ive died a bunch of times cause of that and also posiedon

weak lotus
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oh yea ||demeter|| is the one i avoid the most

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but aphro is just annoying to deal with imo

signal crest
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dusa and artemis are best girl. imma stand on that hill of mine for that XD

weak lotus
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oh when i said annoying to deal with i meant her charm thing lmao

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not the character herself

signal crest
weak lotus
signal crest
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to be fair zeus is the most annoying which is why ||when i did a second save i decided to make zeus the last person i ever gave nectar too and only gave him nectar until the others had nectar|| and also everytime there would be a trial id also constantly and purposely not pick zeus at all 😂 the dialogue i got from that was just hilarious

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Zagreus ples not like him i beg haha ||dont blame demeter for not liking zeus tbh||

weak lotus
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haha lmao

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tbh i feel like most of the gods dont like zeus

neat warren
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can you duo with all gods?

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i mean is there any combination that doesnt work

misty ridge
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Hermes has no duo

weak lotus
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there are certain boon requirements for the duos

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just go and get the codex extension

maiden ruin
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and also you can only get a certain amount of gods in one run

neat warren
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i know?

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thats what i meant too...

maiden ruin
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what

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you need to get a certain boons to get duos

neat warren
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i was asking if there is any god duo that doesnt grant a duo

maiden ruin
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oh

weak lotus
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hermes

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chaos if you count chaos boons lmao

neat warren
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oh

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its been 11 hours

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im dehydrated af

maiden ruin
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11 hours of what

neat warren
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playing hades

maiden ruin
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bruh

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how

neat warren
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wdym

maiden ruin
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how many hours do you have

neat warren
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it was my free day

maiden ruin
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i cant play a single game for over 3 hours

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ill get bored

neat warren
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if its a good game i can

maiden ruin
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yeah

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i understand

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sorta

neat warren
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and by good game i mean combat

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if i wanted a story id read a damn book

dull creek
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So i kinda messed up on the titan blood thing and put some in aspect of zag in some how do i fix this? I don't want to start a new profile

maiden ruin
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The answer: No

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you cant do it

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messed up

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but you can easily get it back

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(by fighting bosses and trading)

dull creek
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Ok so what do i do next

maiden ruin
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"by fighting bosses and trading"

dull creek
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Like what do i put the blood into

maiden ruin
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literally anything but the zag aspect

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because you said you dont like it

dull creek
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On spear?

maiden ruin
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"literally anything but the zag aspect"

dull creek
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Ok

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ty

maiden ruin
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what weapon do you like the most?

dull creek
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Blade

maiden ruin
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then put it in another blade aspect

dull creek
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Thanks!

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So by putting them into blade aspects i can unlock the hidden one?

maiden ruin
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technically

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you need to unlock hidden spear first

dull creek
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But

maiden ruin
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go to pinned messages in story discussion if you want to learn how to

dull creek
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So if im correct i have to put 5x titan blood into spear (non zag) to get guan yu so i can unluck other 4th aspects?

maiden ruin
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yes

dull creek
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Ok thanks'

dense berry
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isn't it any non-zag aspects on any weapon for guan yu?

neat warren
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so how do i unlock keepsakes?

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I have given all the nectar to zeus and i have a locked heart now

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i dont want a romancing zeus

wanton crest
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Keepsakes are unlocked by giving every character one nectar. You can't romance the gods, just deepen your bond

neat warren
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can i get more than one duo in a run?

dense berry
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yes

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given that it's not the same duo, of course

neat warren
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so i can have artemis poseidon and artemis demter at once?

dense berry
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yeah

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of course, and again given that you have the requirements for both

neat warren
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does it even work

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lol

dense berry
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what's arty poseidon again

neat warren
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mirage shot

dense berry
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oh yeah it does work

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it does place down another, smaller crystal i think

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(weaker* not sure about smaller)

neat warren
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aw i just got demeter but not the demeter i need

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rip

dense berry
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rip

leaden whale
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Advice: Unlock every weapon first and get some runs with each. Then you should be confident to try out and get to know the hammer upgrades. Everyone has to explore for the true personal playstyle.

amber kestrel
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shield pogg

lilac dagger
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Ye

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Aegis OP

leaden whale
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tbh, Aegis is pretty OP atm

lilac dagger
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Yup

amber kestrel
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honestly think dionysus and hermes best

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Ares doom is broken on special

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and athena has divine dash

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but wing boi and wine boi have so much utility

neat warren
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pls allow media

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what caused you to fear media wtf...

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aint nobody gonna send the 7th transformation of poop monster

dense berry
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people can raid at any time and spam images, better safe than sorry i suppose

sly vigil
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Or post it to your personal Discord works too

leaden whale
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My go-to weapons are now sword and shield

dense laurel
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I mean shield is gud but too slow for my liking

woven perch
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I won like 10 games in a row and now that I am trying "builds" I am losing. Ugh

mystic token
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It’s hard for me to win runs without builds

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I need to learn to play more flex

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Any tips?

leaden whale
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Killed Megara using shield, but it’s a clutch win.

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I’m willing to try a revenge boon build

marble hill
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if I have +30% move speed, how much bonus dmg would I have from 75% special delivery?

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75% of 30%?

woven perch
# mystic token Any tips?

tbh I mostly took the most "rare" boon I could usually. I used the +15% gold per stage and stacked gold on the first few stages. Then I used charon's keepsake before Elysium. Spent some gold on Charon boons that helped me out. Made sure to buy some before going into Styx. If you're lucky you can go into the Hades fight with Charon items helping you out

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Obviously I took things that were just good... like cluster/rocket on the rail

wary valley
thorn marsh
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I'm having a bit of a hard time with ||beowulf - it feels very slow||

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probably just takes practice but I'm not too motivated to spend blood on it or play it

light ledge
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Same lol just unlocked it

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It feels better than ||gilgamesh|| at least for me

elder dragon
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just do a heatless run with it for the prophecy until you feel like spending blood

thorn marsh
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I did make it to the end with a bull shot build

pure fern
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I'm trying to unlock || Artemis' || final heart but I can't seem to get it. I've || talked to her many times and had a lot of dialogues about Callisto, but the last few runs it looks like she's just giving me generic short dialogues || and it's still not unlocked. I don't know what else I'm meant to do.

dense berry
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afaik nothing, just get lucky i guess

pure fern
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I guess. It just really feels like I've exhausted all the event dialogue though and am just getting generic short messages now

dense berry
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i guess you're just getting unlucky then..?

pure fern
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I suppose so, I guess I'll just keep running with the trinket and see what happens

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I have other things to run for still anyway

dense berry
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sounds good i suppose, you can work for other bonds too-

fickle comet
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I can't remember what you have to do to unlock her companion

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just keep playing, giving her nectars when you can

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but iirc her companion is the best one

dense berry
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((not companion))

weak lotus
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arty has a companion?

dense berry
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((she's olympian not chthonic))

weak lotus
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but yea you just need to keep talking

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its luck really

dense berry
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((also are companions something i should spoiler tag that's kinda late game lol))

weak lotus
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honestly idk

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i think?

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i mean you can get it before ever beating a run

dense berry
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yeah i guess but in a normal playthrough you probably wouldn't- or is that justme

weak lotus
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true

marble hill
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unlocked my first ||hidden aspect||!

dense laurel
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Congrats

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Dont use it

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Until u maxed it at least

marble hill
dense laurel
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Its ||guan yu|| right?

marble hill
viscid notch
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||You cant unlock others unless you have that one first|| @marble hill

weak lotus
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yea dont use it till you max it

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its bad at base

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but once you max it its really good

marble hill
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thx guys

dense laurel
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If u like the playstyle ofc

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I just dont like it personally

thorn marsh
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there's a difference between ||unlocking and revealing - unlocking costs blood but revealing doesn't - and to reveal other hidden aspects you only need to reveal guan yu, not actually spend blood on it||

worldly nimbus
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I was wondering why people seem to say keyboard only is pepega for this game.

barren scarab
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What is Pepega?

worldly nimbus
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It gets autoaim. Is the analog movement really that important over KB only/M+KB

barren scarab
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Umm, I think it's preference but controller seems a lot easier in some aspects

weak lotus
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i've heard people say KBM is more awkward but honestly i dont really have any issues with inputting on keyboard

normal viper
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they mean keyboard only

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not kbm

normal viper
weak lotus
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oh wait it s possible to only use keyboard?

sleek axle
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No one wants to see this bud

floral flume
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K I can delete

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Sry

leaden whale
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Made it to Elysium for the first time

weak lotus
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noice

sleek axle
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Good job

weak lotus
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make sure to kill the warriors twice

leaden whale
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Ok

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Oh damn I nearly got the duo

leaden whale
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Also gotten better in boss killing

pure silo
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I just managed to get to elysium without losing my death defied

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I got the self healing stygius thing, so I managed to draintank Alecto and the hydra

dense berry
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stygian soul for cast that reloads every 3-5s?

pure silo
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no

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cursed slash

dense berry
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oh, stygius the blade

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lol

pure silo
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having unhealthy fixation before i got to alecto also helps

dense berry
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since you have cursed i extremely recommend to get as many centaur hearts as possible

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"you can't outheal what oneshots you"
-me probably

gentle tinsel
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How do i win?

misty ridge
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play the game

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get to know patterns

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find out what boons & weapons work well for you - and ||aspects|| when you unlock them

molten hearth
leaden whale
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Made it to final boss for the first time!

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Without using an extra life

obsidian locust
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Congrats!

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Did you beat them?

leaden whale
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had to pause because I arrived at the office, but he's halfway there

leaden whale
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tips for 2nd phase?

light ledge
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||theres a blind spot near where the lasers shoot where you can hug and wont take damage so if you feel like you can reach the boss and hug him before the lasers shoot do that||

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avoid the pots

leaden whale
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thanks!

thorn marsh
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||hug dad ftw||

leaden whale
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I was so close 😢

viscid notch
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rip

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Takes a while to get used to him

leaden whale
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I heard 2nd phase is easier than the first, I should practice reading his patterns.

viscid notch
light ledge
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oh i suppose i should spoiler that huh

viscid notch
# leaden whale yikes

||It's alright once you get the hang of it, you'll know what to expect and when to expect it, and you'll have a better idea of when to attack and when to run away, trying to get a bit of dmg in at every opportunity you find might not be the best play, and can get you in a way worse situation if its a bad call, so yea just play safely, get to know the moveset of both phases, get used to the timing of dashes to avoid taking hits and so on... And it'll be all good bouldy ||

leaden whale
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wait a minute, there's ||romance||?

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i find the ||first phase much more bothersome than the second due only due to his spawning of enemies and the fact that he is invulerable while doing so. The difference between the time to kill a few flying skulls and four shield bearers is a huge one, while the second phase is more consistent.||

viscid notch
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Fair enough

glossy marsh
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||Excuse me, [REDACTED] has a 2nd Health bar!?||

sleek axle
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Mhm

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Have fun

glossy marsh
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||well, I barely beat phase 1 so they basically killed me immediately||

pastel cipher
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yo @glossy marsh please spoiler tag the details of the ||[REDACTED]|| fight, as that's considered spoilers in this channel friendly

glossy marsh
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Sorry

pastel cipher
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ty friendly

distant timber
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thanks for spoiling

dense berry
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||I personally find phase 1 harder for the same reasons as Krieg. 2nd phase is easiest, thanks to pillars, just need to learn to stay far away if ranged, or if melee, learn when to attack and when to run away||

hybrid harness
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is there anything to do after beating hades completely

maiden ruin
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yes

dense berry
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What do you mean by "completely"? All achs?

hybrid harness
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like beaten him 10 times

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and got the true ending

maiden ruin
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yes

hybrid harness
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is there anything else to do after that

maiden ruin
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yes

hybrid harness
dense berry
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Just keep playing and you'll eventually get a prophecy to continue

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||Mom should've talked by now about wanting to solve the problems with the olympians, that's what||

maiden ruin
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||8 heat, 16 heat, 32 heat, all prophecies, all achievements, epilogue, all bonds|| and probably some more that i cant remember

dense berry
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You can also go for other prophecies, bonds, steam achs, etc

normal viper
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||theres an epilogue||

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theres also ||vanity items||

maiden ruin
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oh yeah

normal viper
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theres a lot to do in this game

dense berry
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But I understand if you're not the completionist type and don't feel like getting achs and prophecies

hybrid harness
normal viper
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plus, you can always push yourself further with getting faster times and doing ||higher heats||

dense berry
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But yeah the big thing you wanna go for is ||mom's plan for epilogue so just keep playing and talking to her. And.. getting other stuff meanwhile is also fun||

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A lot is technically optional but surprisingly fun, lots if replayability with aspects and ||heats||

misty ridge
dense berry
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Hidden aspect names are indeed a spoiler-

hybrid harness
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hopefully no one saw that

dense berry
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Well, other than us I don't think :P

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BTW do you not know how to spoiler tag? You do ||text that is spoiler tagged||

misty ridge
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basically anything new that happens after you reach the end boss that first time is a spoiler here

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including who/what the end boss is

maiden ruin
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hidden aspects and spoilers beyond final boss should be hidden

dense berry
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You can get hidden aspects before that if you'you're lucky I guess

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But in most cases, no

normal viper
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no, you have to reach final boss once

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iirc

misty ridge
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mhmm

dense berry
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Maybe, but I don't recall that being on wiki simply

misty ridge
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you have to reach & fight end boss

wary wing
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It makes sense that you need to reach the surface once before unlocking them. ||They all want to be brought up there.|| First you have to prove that you can make it shadesmile

dense berry
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Watch out for the spoilers yeh-

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It's 2 lines on each side

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||like dis||

wary wing
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sry

leaden whale
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||Redacted|| is walling me

mossy creek
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Who should I gift the nectar too?

loud canopy
weak lotus
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yea for beginners skelly is good

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eurydice also has a good keepsake

signal crest
maiden ruin
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eurydice is the best god with the best boons

signal crest
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Also i like how the acorn looks like after defeating the boss and they show ||your stats after beating the boss. It gives me this premium vibe. Like i won in premium style XD. Maybe its prons just me tho|| but yea

maiden ruin
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what

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how does it show your stats

signal crest
maiden ruin
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that did not answer my question

signal crest
# maiden ruin how does it show your stats

Imma answering waiit hahahh ||i guess not stats per say but like after you beat hades, and theres the thing that pops up that shows what boons youve used and like how long you took to do the run. Like i just like how it looks like there on the side after winning. Looks cool||

maiden ruin
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bruh what does that have to do with the acorn

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do you even know what the acorn is

signal crest
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Yea

maiden ruin
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what is it

signal crest
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Its a keepsake

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That helps u when fighting bosses

maiden ruin
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the acorn has nothing to do with any of that

signal crest
maiden ruin
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bruh

glossy marsh
signal crest
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The only thing keeping me going is seeing all the victory boasts. I dream for the day i win in the end without feeling like the life is being sucked out of me in game and in real life onion onion onion

brisk ridge
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ok so basically I can tear through everything but as soon as I meet ||theseus and the minotaur|| I get my ass handed to me

dense berry
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you should learn their patterns and how to deal with them

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aka when to get away, when to barge in, etc

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my usual strategy is deal with the minotaur first

brisk ridge
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best way to deal with the shield?

dense berry
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once minotaur is gone, dealing with theseus (shield) is a lot less annoying

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what weapon do you use?

brisk ridge
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shield

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ironically

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mostly because the hammer upgrades are busted

dense berry
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okay so

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you can hold bull rush, when he attacks you throw the rush

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by rushing you'll probably be behind him, so you can spam dash attack

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if you're not a bull rush fan, you can try dashing around the arena slowly getting closer and then dashing through him and attacking behind him,he's gonna keep turning to shield, keep dashing behind him

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and watch out for spin attack, make sure you're ready to dash out or bull rush/shield up

brisk ridge
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I am a fan of bull rush, I don't really use the special much unless my entire build is based around it

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thanks for the help, I'll try out your tips soon!

dense berry
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good luck, if you're good at bull rushing then abuse it owo

signal crest
brisk kelp
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it took me like 10 tries dw

dense berry
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this is why i have ||EM3|| on

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spoilers i guess

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shouldn't talk about that any more in this channel

brisk kelp
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also sup ataino

dense berry
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helo lyte

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i'm fine but this ain't the channel for it :P

charred geode
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how do you unlock the hidden aspects again

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you gotta get the spear one first right

dense berry
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yep

charred geode
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how much blood do i need for that

dense berry
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you need ||5 titan blood spent on any non-zag aspects and then just get lucky with achilles' dialogue||

charred geode
#

kk

brisk kelp
#

then from there its unique for each one

charred geode
#

does it matter the weapon

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for the non zag aspects

dense berry
#

for the first hidden, i think it doesn't matter

sage fern
#

I'm not sure what to spend my titan blood on. I only have a few and I spent one on the spear dash attack which is cool. I like it but people seem to be saying spin attack build is better.

dense berry
#

i usually see people saying spin attack is not good-

sage fern
#

hm weird

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I dunno what to go then. I can't see the last aspect yet and the first one is boring just raw attack damage

dense berry
#

well, i'd say just go for what you think is fun, not "better"

sage fern
#

fairs. I would if not for the rarity of titan blood

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Like there's not even enough to fully max one weapon let alone them all

misty ridge
sage fern
#

Ah fair enough. As far as I see there was 1 per weapon every time you beat meg and then occasionally you can trade lots of resources for one but I shall see in the future whenever I win

misty ridge
#

It’s a spoiler

sage fern
#

Gotcha

misty ridge
mossy creek
#

What’s the best way to beat Meg? Is it honestly just spamming

snow yacht
#

well i use the bow so i kinda just dash around while using the special

mossy creek
#

Sword. The first one u get. I dont know if u get another one

maiden ruin
#

dash strike is your main source of damage

dense berry
#

you do get other weapons

maiden ruin
#

dash strike, dash strike, special

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over and over again

mossy creek
#

Ok

dense berry
#

you spam dash

maiden ruin
#

also i recommend ares and athena for that

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and try to get extra dashes from hermes

mossy creek
#

I mean I beat her but I was basically screwed after that

dense berry
#

cat

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meg

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this is probably their first run

maiden ruin
#

ok

#

but like

viscid notch
#

Just gotta get used to her moveset, dash away when the big aoe comes, avoid projectiles

maiden ruin
#

yeah

viscid notch
#

Eventually with mirror upgrades and decent play you'll get out of there ready for the next biome

mossy creek
#

I beat Meg again but it gets a lot harder

dense berry
#

you should be getting stronger with the mirror

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and you, better, with learning the patterns

mossy creek
#

Yeah I am

dense berry
#

just take ur time

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we all progress differently i suppose

drowsy plover
#

Some people were stuck on Meg many times, just keep trying and understanding her moves and also finding your preferred playstyle

meager vortex
#

^This, find your own rhythm and it will click.

sour beacon
#

is there anything in game that shows you what bounties u have completed for each weapon?

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also which weapon do u guys like/hate the most

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i rly dont like the bow past like the first area

meager vortex
#

in zags room there is the book of prophecies that will show you I think. Someone please correct me if im wrong.

grave mist
sour beacon
#

map?

grave mist
#

Yeah when you start a run or clear a biome there is a short cinematic of Zagreus advancing up a map and it will show you if you've cleared a bounty or not.

sour beacon
#

Oh yeah that

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Thx

grave mist
#

You'll see a question mark if you have not gotten that bounty.

leaden whale
#

How does privileged status work?

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apply two status affects, such as doom, hangover, chill weak, and marks, on the same enemy, and you will deal more damage to them

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I see, I have doom and chill stacked together right now in my 31st run.

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Also weak

light ledge
#

someone said marked doesnt count for priv status

gray haven
#

Hunter's Mark counts.

light ledge
#

o ok

balmy stump
#

yea it counts but its not a good way to prock it :/

#

if youre doing a hm build ff is better imo

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just get that base damage

misty ridge
#

charm doesn't count, but the others should

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everyone has a status of some sort except Hermes & Chaos

balmy stump
#

^^yea and any combination of 2 count towards ps

leaden whale
#

I hope the acorn works when I face ||redacted|| again

balmy stump
#

yea acorn works on every boss

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and its mathematically better on final boss than skelly tooth

leaden whale
#

I ditched the tooth as soon as I reached Styx

static palm
#

So, I’m getting Hades for the Switch tomorrow but I’ve talked with a few friends who told me of Duo Boons and was wondering which boons would be better for your first run depending on what god appears or what boons are recommended to try to grab if able?

balmy stump
# static palm So, I’m getting Hades for the Switch tomorrow but I’ve talked with a few friends...

to be completely honest dont worry about optimability or duos when you first start the game. meet all of the gods, find the one you like, and try to have fun with builds. but if you want my genuine opinion athena is an amazing god for survivability and has some fun duos like merciful end with ares. aphrodite is just chunky in terms of damage(same with artemis(also some fun duos like mirage shot with poseidon or deadly reversal with athena, splitting headache with dio is also fun)), and zeus is pretty fun. besides that its dependent on how you play and what you like. i personally dont like dionysus at all and thus have a negative view on almost everything he gives but but some people swear by him. so just experiment and try to find stuff out on your own :3

#

hunting blades (artemis/ares) is a very fun duo too

static palm
#

Thanks so much ~ I’ve heard Athena has some amazing boons ~
I want to try out a Spear Build on my first run if I’m able to unlock the spear once im able because long range has always been a preference of mine but I’ve heard some gods are better then others for bosses also xD

balmy stump
#

yea but a lot of it comes down to preference too

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i personally love bow and since you said you like range id def recommend it

leaden whale
#

Fist and shield are also decent

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I tried bow but I get whacked everytime

light ledge
#

artemis ares duo is stupid fun

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if you get poseidon artemis duo too unfff

leaden whale
#

I forgot what mine was, but I think it's Poseidon Dio (or Aphrodite)

light ledge
#

for bow if you unlocked aspects hera is really strong

static palm
#

Bow and Fists I’ve seen on a play through before but experimenting around on my first time with everything maybe best then change up on my second run? ~
The aspects of each weapon are like crazy long to acquire though right??? Most of what I know is from friends or streams sorry xD

light ledge
#

||it gets easier to unlock after you beat the final boss the first time|| but you're right i think it needs 2 bloods for hera

static palm
#

I may try out a bow run also because Im a bit curious about that Magnet thank you ~

light ledge
#

np have fun

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i was a firm believer of chiron until i played hera with aphrodite cast

#

it's like having a shotgun

leaden whale
#

Have fun!

static palm
#

Thanks y’all!!! ~

neon ferry
#

When I played the game I started off with the sword and decided I would first beat the final boss with only the sword before moving on to other weapons

#

It definitely taught me how to time evading attacks and how to watch all the stuff flying at the screen and what stuff is actually gonna hit you

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I haven't tried enough of the other weapons to have a good opinion on which weapon I like the most; unsurprisingly I like the sword the most right now lmao (the special is probably my favorite of the weapons I've tried so far)
I tried the shield and it feels so slow; it's okay (I think by the nature of the weapon it would naturally be slower)
The lance is nice, but the special isn't as satisfying; the dash attack feels nice though
The fists are nice too, but the special has a long cooldown period where you're more vulnerable (if you don't get any of the upgrades for it)
Haven't tried the ranged ones but I think I'll probably enjoy them since they feel like they'd be safer, but the dark thirst thing hasn't chosen any of them yet.

#

The fist's hadouken upgrade for the special (which turns it into a projectile and takes away the post-attack cooldown time) is pretty silly and great though

#

it feels like it turns into a bow that also lets you hit things fast close up

#

Regardless all of them do "feel" very different and are still fun to use

leaden whale
#

I DID IT

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I win

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32:23:10

light ledge
#

Nice

#

Gj

neon ferry
#

Congrats o:!

leaden whale
#

do I have to repeatedly beat ||him|| up for the epilogue?

light ledge
#

Prolly spoiler tag that

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||and yes||

leaden whale
#

oh god lol

normal viper
#

its the ending, not the epilogue

#

the epilogue is after the ending

strange frost
#

I only have like 20 runs in. How early am I in-game? Also tags are welcome given the sheer amount of servers I'm on haha

light ledge
#

Depends, have you reached the end

dense laurel
#

You are ultra early

viscid notch
strange frost
#

I have most definitely NOT reached the end haha. It takes me a while to develop skill in a game haha.

#

also I'm out of practice with controllers tbh.

dense laurel
#

Thats cool

#

I start using controllers when i played hades

#

Easy to pick up dw

viscid notch
#

That's fair, as long as you're enjoying it, no need to rush the end shadesmile

strange frost
#

I'm having a blast haha

#

Although I'm taking my time with the game as well haha.

#

Once I build enough skill I will try a fresh file run too.

#

hopin' that works.

#

I just want that special dialogue haha

sage fern
#

i'm dumb. Until now I was just getting every boon I could whatever god gave it but it's so much better focusing on one and getting synergy

sage fern
#

How do I get more diamonds. Only got one and need 2 to upgrade the contactor

maiden ruin
#

kill hydra with another weapon

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and you can trade in 10 nectar for 1 diamond

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and 5 keys for 1 nectar

#

and 10 gemstones for 1 key

sage fern
#

ty

#

who gives spin upgrades for spear

#

want to try a spin build

maiden ruin
#

who?

#

daedalus

sage fern
#

right

#

ty

#

but you can't get a trinket thing to guarantee a hammer like you can with the gods

maiden ruin
#

true

#

but you are guaranteed a hammer no matter what

sage fern
#

I see

maiden ruin
#

daedalus is not a god

#

that is why he is dead

muted latch
#

you are guaranteed two hammers on your run

#

and if you arrive at Styx without two hammers, a hammer will be a guaranteed spawn at Charon's shop

sage fern
#

damn 2 aint much but the spin usually comes in first one. just idk what gods to get for a spin build after hammers

jovial frigate
#

Does it spawn in Charon's shop?

#

I thought it was a Styx room

maiden ruin
#

massive crit spins

sage fern
#

Gotcha

desert granite
light ledge
#

ive seen videos that say seeded runs

#

how do i insert a seed? is it a feature in game?

marsh ether
#

It's not. They're either using a mod or getting it from a savefile

#

And even then the game is very hard to pin on a seed since it changes via the movement of the shades in the level

light ledge
#

I see

#

I thought it was like isaac where you can have seeds entered in game

#

Didnt know the seed is based on the movement of shades tho thats interesting to know

dense berry
#

the shades, the way you're casting, lots of rng in the game

gray haven
sudden brook
#

I've attempted escape over 50 times

#

still haven't succeeded

#

im desperate at this point, can someone just give me an OP build or smth

weak lotus
#

haha dont stress too much

#

what weapon do you prefer?

swift pasture
#

How much of the mirror do you have unlocked?

sudden brook
#

I like the spear

swift pasture
#

Also, if it makes you feel better, I took 80 runs to get a clear

sudden brook
weak lotus
#

i took around 80 too i think

sudden brook
#

like, everything onscreen is at max

weak lotus
#

everything unlocked?

sudden brook
#

as in weapons?

#

yeah

weak lotus
#

i meant every mirror section but that too i guess

swift pasture
#

I'd try a cast run with Achilles spear

sudden brook
#

I'm still missing the lowest mirror upgrade

#

need 5 more keys

weak lotus
#

ah

misty ridge
#

have you experimented with both sides of the mirror?

swift pasture
#

Ah, rip

weak lotus
#

ok so for spear

grave mist
weak lotus
#

i think you can go for achilles then try finding seeking blades or smth?

swift pasture
#

Hunting blades

weak lotus
#

usually i use guan yu

sudden brook
#

I dont have any titan blood

weak lotus
#

but you need to max that out

#

for it to be good

sudden brook
#

used it all already

swift pasture
#

It's an Artemis Ares duo, so you just need Ares cast and Artemis attack/special

sudden brook
#

I literally can not obtain anymore for now

#

until I clear

misty ridge
#

you can always get more

weak lotus
#

getting ares legendary would also be good for it

sudden brook
#

so ares/artemis?

weak lotus
swift pasture
#

Same for the two Ares boons that buff blade rifts

maiden ruin
swift pasture
maiden ruin
#

ah frick

weak lotus
#

on spear its eh imo

swift pasture
#

Yeah, this isn't fists

misty ridge
#

there's styx shop, infernal broker, prophecies

swift pasture
maiden ruin
#

then it is time for ares cast

sudden brook
#

alright

#

who in what zone

weak lotus
#

my recommendation

swift pasture
#

I'd go Ares first

sudden brook
#

ares zone 1, artemis rest?

weak lotus
#

up to you

#

yea

#

that sounds good

sudden brook
#

alright

weak lotus
#

oh but

swift pasture
#

Then if you don't get a natural Artemis, use her keepsake in Asphodel

sudden brook
#

I'll give it a shot

weak lotus
#

you cant force boons more than once

maiden ruin
#

yes you can

#

just not the same god

weak lotus
#

well yea i meant for one god

maiden ruin
#

yea

sudden brook
#

also uh

#

what mirror of the night loadout should I be running?

swift pasture
#

What do you have currently on?

sudden brook
#

Fiery Presence
Dark Regen
Death Defiance
Greater Reflex
Boiling Blood
Infernal Soul
Golden Touch
Thick Skin
Priveliged Status
Dark Foresight

grave mist
#

Quick question @sudden brook how far do you typically get?

sudden brook
#

sometimes Theseus and Minotaur

misty ridge
#

I don't like using fiery myself

rugged adder
#

@sudden brook If you haven't tried abusing Privileged Status much I would focus on getting synergy with boons to use it.

grave mist
#

Oh yeah your first clear is right around the corner, I got to final chamber 8 times I a row before I cleared it.

misty ridge
#

I end up backstabbing all the time hehe

sudden brook
#

quick question

#

with the ares/artemis

rugged adder
#

Demeter's cast is any easy way, I found, to apply chill all over the board.

swift pasture
misty ridge
#

hunting blades?

sudden brook
#

do I focus on special, cast or attack

swift pasture
#

Cast

rugged adder
#

Truth - Ares/Artemis aren't stacking curses at all.

misty ridge
#

you need ares cast

sudden brook
#

alright

swift pasture
#

Hunting Blades is a cast run

misty ridge
#

it's called hunting blades for a reason - doom isn't involved at all

swift pasture
#

If you go with Achilles for aspect, then maybe something on your special? You'll want to rush before each cast to get the bonus

#

Otherwise, yeah, all cast focused

sudden brook
#

I only have aspect of zagreus

#

level 3 though

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

misty ridge
#

that's ok

sudden brook
#

idk what I was thinking

swift pasture
#

That works too

rugged adder
#

a lot of top players choose aspect of Zagreus from what I've seen.

sudden brook
#

or nvm

#

I have one titan's blood

#

I can take zag to level 4

#

or get achilles

misty ridge
#

I prefer shadow presence over fiery

swift pasture
misty ridge
#

but that's cuz it's easy to get backstab when you dash around all the time hehe

sudden brook
#

hmm

#

so which do I go with?

misty ridge
#

you decide

#

and if you don't like it, pick the other one

sudden brook
#

I'm feeling achilles

weak lotus
#

zag aspect isnt bad at all tbh

#

i mean my fave and go to weapon is zag aspect stygius lmao

sudden brook
#

here goes nothing

grave mist
#

Don't forget your call

weak lotus
#

the reason we rcommended achilles is probs bull rush bonus damage

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for me at least

swift pasture
#

Yeah

sudden brook
#

so this is a cast build right?

swift pasture
#

Yep

sudden brook
#

I've never done one before

swift pasture
#

They're fun

grave mist
#

Stygian or infernal soul, everyone?

swift pasture
#

I slept on casts for a while, sadly

#

Stygian if you can get extra casts

grave mist
#

I usually prefer stygian

swift pasture
#

I run Stygian by default, even if I'm just using my cast to get a mirror bonus, I like having it recharge.

#

One less thing to worry about

rugged adder
#

I will add that I didn't use cast enough when I first started playing either. Learning to incorporate cast into your play-style - any cast at all - is going to improve your chances of success.

swift pasture
#

^^^^^^^^^^

sudden brook
#

what daedalus upgrades should I be going for

grave mist
#

This build probably doesn't depend on particular upgrades

#

I don't any of them will make or break you.

swift pasture
#

Doesn't matter too much once you get your cast buffed and doing all the work, so whatever you're comfortable with using till then.

sudden brook
#

demeter

#

hmm

#

slow on special seems useful

rugged adder
#

I like ||Demeter|| cast

swift pasture
#

Extending Jab, Flurry Jab, Triple Jab are all safe hammers

rugged adder
#

Especially if you get the upgrade. Faster and better targeting.

swift pasture
#

||Chill|| stacks better on faster moves, you might prefer that on attack, it's like hangover

misty ridge
#

ok

rugged adder
#

Doesn't ||Demeter's|| attack knock back too?

misty ridge
#

just a heads up

#

||Demeter|| is spoiler

swift pasture
#

Only Poseidon's boons add knockback

misty ridge
#

so hide the name in this chat

rugged adder
#

Oh... crap. Sorry!

misty ridge
#

it's something you encounter after you reach end boss

grave mist
#

Should they force an Athena now and go for stubborn roots?

sudden brook
#

so I have ares cast obv

swift pasture
#

Now you hope for Artemis

sudden brook
#

so should I go for artemis on the other things

#

I got her

#

tartarus still

#

yay

misty ridge
#

then you wait for the duo

sudden brook
#

call, special or pressure points

misty ridge
#

you don't have the mirror bonus to help you get it

swift pasture
#

Call or special count towards the duo

sudden brook
#

sorry for asking a question every 0.1 seconds

swift pasture
#

It's alright

misty ridge
#

that's what this channel is for

grave mist
#

I'd recommend the call it's great on the final boss

sudden brook
#

this is actually not as unfun as I expected

#

casts are cool

dense berry
#

lol

weak lotus
#

yea casts are cool

dense berry
#

once you get boiling blood if you don't already it'll be much better

swift pasture
#

Casts are great, yeah

sudden brook
#

ah

#

I think i forgot that

rugged adder
#

See? Just using casts at all has made you better!

sudden brook
#

I have it unlocked, I just didnt put it on

rugged adder
#

I always have to remind myself to utilize all the tools - cast, call, ||companions||

weak lotus
#

yea its really hard to utilize everything at first

#

but once you get how

#

you can get better

sudden brook
#

I dont have a ||companion|| yet

#

how do you get those?

rugged adder
#

That's why I censored it!

weak lotus
#

what taught me to do so was doing lambent plume runs lmao

weak lotus
#

||you need to give ambrosia to a specific character||

grave mist
sudden brook
#

||I've only given ambrosia to charon||

#

kekw

#

I put all my nectar into him because why not

#

after putting at least one in everyone else first ofc

weak lotus
#

another way to get a first clear is by divine dash or bull rush cheesing lmao

grave mist
#

@sudden brook let us know how the fury fight goes, if you feel like you are a damage dealing machine it is a good sign

sudden brook
#

I do

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I just have to time my casts right

weak lotus
#

noice

sudden brook
#

its tisiphone, she stands still a lot

weak lotus
#

oh yea since youre going for a cast run

rugged adder
weak lotus
#

try getting artemis legendary

sudden brook
#

👍

#

that was the plan

weak lotus
#

arty + pos duo can also work well for hunting blades

sudden brook
#

also my cast boon is level 4

#

:D

weak lotus
#

noice

sudden brook
#

alright, fury beaten

#

time for asphodel

#

and artemis

grave mist
#

That achilles bull rush is great for getting around asphodel chambers

#

Especially since you can just recall the spear if you chuck it in a bad spot.

sudden brook
#

oh god

maiden ruin
#

what

sudden brook
#

I just got a chaos boon that hides chamber previews

maiden ruin
#

bruh

sudden brook
#

in return for +1 casts

maiden ruin
#

what is the buff

#

oh

#

cool

sudden brook
#

worth?

maiden ruin
#

yes

grave mist
#

It's a happy accident! Let's work with it.

sudden brook
#

I'm probably going to miss every artemis boon in asphodel now but eh

maiden ruin
#

nah

desert granite
maiden ruin
#

that is not gonna work my guy

sudden brook
#

omg

#

I actually got an artemis boon

#

blind

maiden ruin
#

see

#

i told you

sudden brook
#

special, pressure points or hunter's mark

maiden ruin
#

special

weak lotus
#

special yea

maiden ruin
#

you are going for an ares cast build right?

#

if so then take it

sudden brook
#

back

#

resuming the run

swift pasture
#

Alright, took a lunch break, how's the run coming?

sudden brook
#

I got stunlocked by a gorgon inside a cluster of shielded dracons

#

bye bye two stacks of death defiance

swift pasture
#

Rip

grave mist
#

You can come back from that easily

weak lotus
#

pray for pat

sudden brook
#

I'm comfortable in my ability to still survive hydra though

#

yeah lol

swift pasture
#

At least you can buy those back via a well/Athena boons

weak lotus
#

do you have the duo boon yet?

sudden brook
#

kiss of styx premium

#

nope

#

elysium maybe?

weak lotus
#

yea most likely

swift pasture
#

Hopefully, yeah

weak lotus
#

you have the duo boon mirror upgrade right?

#

gods legacy i think

sudden brook
#

nope

#

is that the bottom one?

swift pasture
#

Second to bottom

#

But yeah, behind the last key unlock

sudden brook
#

well rip

grave mist
#

If you get enough boons from at least one of those two you will likely get the duo.

swift pasture
#

^

grave mist
#

It's pretty rare that you don't get a duo unless you're really trying not to, just usually sooner is better

swift pasture
#

There's still some Ares boons that upgrade your cast regardless at least

grave mist
#

Oh man those blade rifts upgrades are so sweet

swift pasture
#

Especially the legendary

sudden brook
#

there goes my last stack of death defiance

#

next time I guess

swift pasture
#

What did it?

sudden brook
#

I wanted to grab regen casts anyway

swift pasture
#

Yeah, Stygian Soul is great

sudden brook
#

time to go commit burn

weak lotus
#

bruh

#

welp was a good attempt

sudden brook
#

I got the darkness from hydra at least

weak lotus
#

wait if youve beaten hydra

#

just try advancing

sudden brook
#

I just wont bother doing elysium on 33 hp no death defiance

weak lotus
#

you might get kiss of styx

swift pasture
#

You might get lucky and see Pat

weak lotus
#

i mean

grave mist
#

It doesn't hurt to get some practice against the Elysium mobs with this build anyway

weak lotus
#

you heal between areas

#

and kiss of styx

sudden brook
#

I mean

#

alright

swift pasture
#

It's up to you though

sudden brook
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no kiss of styx

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time to go die

grave mist
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Show of hands if you've used more than six DDs in a run? ✋

swift pasture
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✋✋✋

weak lotus
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grave mist
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There will be Charon's wells throughout Elysium and styx, save that coin

sudden brook
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welp I died

weak lotus
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better luck next time

sudden brook
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thanks for the help by the way

grave mist
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Sounds like the build was a good fit though

weak lotus
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just keep trying and observe attack patterns

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you should be able to get the win soon

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if you need any help just ask here

swift pasture
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^^^^

sudden brook
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should I go infernal or stygian soul

weak lotus
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i usually go infernal

sudden brook
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and boiling or abyssal blood

glass jetty
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Depends on build

swift pasture
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I prefer Stygian but you'll need extra casts from Chaos/Artemis legendary/Wells

grave mist
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Stygian is the more idiot proof

weak lotus
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abyssal is the one with extra damage right

swift pasture
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Nope, that's boiling

weak lotus
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ah

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i go with boiling then

sudden brook
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boiling and infernal

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got it

swift pasture
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You trying for Ares/Artemis again or something different?

sudden brook
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ares artemis yes

gray haven
swift pasture
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Good luck! Hopefully you get the duo sooner this time

sudden brook
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ty

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well, didnt even get the cast boon this time

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great

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I can do attack, special or dash

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and then just hope and pray I guess

swift pasture
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Dash would lead to the same upgrades that affect your cast

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Could end up with both if you get the cast soon

sudden brook
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ares boon third room

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fingers crossed

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I got it

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and its purple

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:D

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what are the other core boons I'm looking for by the way?

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engulfing vortex, duo boon, artemis legendary?

glass jetty
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Artemis: Deadly Strike, Deadly Flourish, Hunter Dash, or Artemis' Aid,

grave mist
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Do you have the codex?

sudden brook
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yep

glass jetty
sudden brook
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geez, having the dash and the cast is great

grave mist
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I'd gun for Artemis's aid out of all those. The codex will help you keep them straight.

swift pasture
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^

sudden brook
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artemis' aid?

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is that the call that shoots arrows?

swift pasture
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Black Metal or Engulfing Vortex go for Ares' legendary, whereas Artemis wants Pressure Points and Support Fire for hers.
And yes

grave mist
arctic geode
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are u kidding me

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i always get the mino

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and ofc i have debuff on me

glass jetty
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Learn his patterns, you'll be able to beat him without any dmg

arctic geode
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i know his pattern for like

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first phase xd

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then he cleaves the entire room

swift pasture
arctic geode
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chaos Sadge

glass jetty
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In 2nd phase he does the same, just a bit faster and his rush and jump attack sends wave

swift pasture
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Yeah, I meant what does the curse do?

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Shorter dash, no attacking, etc

sudden brook
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I'm trolling

arctic geode
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killed him PeepoHappy

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only took like 90% of my hp

sudden brook
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just lost all my death defiance to alecto

swift pasture
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Ouch

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Her buzzsaws?

sudden brook
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yeah

grave mist
swift pasture
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Alecto is the hardest fury too

grave mist
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But with the blade rifts you get to give her a taste of her own medicine at least

sudden brook
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well I guess this run is screwed

gray haven
sudden brook
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welp I died

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3rd time's the charm I guess

swift pasture
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Rip

gray haven
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What are you trying?

swift pasture
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Hunting blades Achilles

swift pasture
gray haven
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Do you have Fated Persuasion yet?

sudden brook
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nearly

gray haven
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Not gonna be easy to make that work reliably without Fated Persuasion.

swift pasture
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They're missing the last part of the mirror

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I think

gray haven
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Does it need to be that build, or are you just trying to get a first clear?

sudden brook
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just trying for a first clear

gray haven
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Hmmm. What aspects do you have?

sudden brook
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demeter, eris, chiron, achilles

gray haven
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What level are Chiron and Eris?

sudden brook
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one

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or chiron is 2

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any ideas?

gray haven
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Yes, one sec.

sudden brook
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I have all the gods' keepsakes by the way

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so I can start off with anyone

gray haven
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Chiron. Start with the Eternal Rose and get Heartbreak Strike, then look for Drunken Flourish. Swap to Overflowing Cup in Asphodel if you didn't get Drunken Flourish in Tartarus.

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Mirror should be like that.

arctic geode
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why styngian soul

viscid notch
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so you limit the hermes pool

gray haven
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Because it removes Lightning Rod and Flurry Cast from their pools.

arctic geode
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is flurry cast the dumb thing where it casts faster if u hold