#h1-for-new-players

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long moss
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idgaf if I have to find it next run
I just care that I get all the prophecies asap

swift pasture
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Then take the legendary

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It'll be harder to get that again, which will take longer

long moss
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it's funny though cuz in the short term I am taking longer to get one specific prophecy's rewards

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cuz the other one was the last of his prophecy

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but I'm def taking the legend

swift pasture
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Darkness is more likely to show up, I'd take Eurydice

long moss
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but I wanna take it every time

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guess I'll learn next run mfg
or the next
or the next
cuz the ! can only happen once per floor right?

swift pasture
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Yes

uneven ledge
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jusst take eurydice

long moss
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no

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I will see eurydice again before I finish with my prophecies

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and pretty sure it was already the last or this one is the last or 2nd to last
so I don't need to see her much more for story

lunar orchid
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what does mfg stand for
mario fan games? major fatigue gaming?

swift pasture
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Yes but advancing her plot over 10-12 darkness is better

long moss
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my f*ing god

low temple
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Always go for her food

long moss
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a christian slur for someone raised christian and "converted" to atheism

swift pasture
long moss
lunar orchid
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you know slurs and swears aren't the same thing right

long moss
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maybe 500

swift pasture
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200 is overkill

low temple
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You can clear the mirror within 100 runs

long moss
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I wanna do both sides so I can swap without keys

swift pasture
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I'm at 135 and only 2,000 darkness away

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And that's without going for darkness each run, just naturally getting it

long moss
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are you caring about completely maxing out the mirror? I don't think so
you just want enough so that if you use a key you can have the most expensive setup possible if you wish

uneven ledge
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meanwhile i'm here actively choosing gemstones over darkness because 20 obols > 5 max hp

long moss
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enough so that one side is finished

swift pasture
long moss
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wait really?

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you have 2000 until you never need a key again?

swift pasture
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Yeah, just fated authority to go

long moss
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idk if 100 obols is better than a centaur heart

swift pasture
long moss
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you can need keys and still use them as trading items

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you would just have to collect 1 per run you plan on changing minimum

swift pasture
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True

long moss
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leme remind you a centaur heart costs 125

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so pretty sure 5h>20o

swift pasture
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But considering I have everything maxed I actually use, I don't need keys for rerolls

long moss
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at the least, if you care at all abt health, 5h>20o DEFINITELY

swift pasture
long moss
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but I could see reason that centaur hearts are worth 0o to you

lunar orchid
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5 health??? centaur hearts give you 25

long moss
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centuar room and obol room gives 5x the amount a dark or gem room gives you

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I was making a comparison

cyan vault
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I’m a little over 80 runs and have about two thirds of the mirror done. Last 6 or so on one side left. They’re the expensive ones, but still. I think you aren’t realizing how much darkness you get from boss fights.

long moss
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damn y'all

the ! didn't have a !

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I should have taken the dark

uneven ledge
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wha

long moss
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I think I finished with the singing lovers lore

lunar orchid
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eurydice's items are good though

long moss
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yes
but I WANT PERMANENT

uneven ledge
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yeah all of her stuff is great

long moss
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NOT TEMPORARY
WINNING DOESN'T MATTER RN
PROPHECIES DO

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if winning doesn't matter eurydice is WORTHLESS

uneven ledge
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then uhh for future reference sisyphus is the only ! that can give meta currency lol

swift pasture
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^

long moss
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IK that

lunar orchid
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darkness doesn't affect prophecies though

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i don't see your point

long moss
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the point is advancing permanent affects rn

cyan vault
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Temporary gains are like multipliers to permanent gains.

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I’ve gotten like four ambrosia off surface fish.

lunar orchid
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yeah you get more stuff if you don't die

long moss
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and since I am not trying to win
why not fully not care about winning
and consider levels useless

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dude I don't need levels to live

swift pasture
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Then go all in on a farming build

long moss
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I want darkness more than eurydice rn

uneven ledge
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dark regeneration

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golden touch is also nice for farming

swift pasture
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Poseidon boons too

uneven ledge
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chaos is also good

swift pasture
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Plus a few Chaos ones.

long moss
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WAIT WTF
she has a ! now
she wasn't singing tho (isn't cuz there's some special line from listening to her for long)
cuz it was paused
so like
what???

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wtf
uhm
it was related to her husband
nvm I guess I am fine rn
and there is def actually like another 2-3 lines to this story from what she just said
I don't think she can have a line till I talk to him first tho
so if he disapears for some reason when I next die I'll skip her that run

lunar orchid
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orpheus has a name y'know

long moss
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I forgot what it was, y'know

lunar orchid
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no i did not know

lunar orchid
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ok cool

cyan vault
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I call him Robert Plant

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Or better yet. Robert smith. (That’s the one I wanted.

long moss
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I predict with hazard bomb, I will literally be full healed this time from the upcoming fountain (the next room is boss)

cyan vault
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Sounds groovy.

lunar orchid
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good luck with lernie

long moss
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this run might win with me literally trying not to cuz I think I am gonna start F3 at full health and DDs

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I WAS WRONG

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I think I will still have 3 DDs tho

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yeah still 3 DDs but I almost lost one lol

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sometimes I do so well at hydra, and sometimes the last third I lose a lot of health

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starting F3 with 96/225h

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I sorta wanna sell vicious cycle
it's 415 gold guys

uneven ledge
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has artemis shown up?

long moss
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yes?

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oh guys I had to
I got a (worthless) achievement for it

uneven ledge
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then you should keep it and try for hunting blades

long moss
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lol too late now

sour coral
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hunting blades can carry an entire run lol

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you dont even a cast build/weapon for it

long moss
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wait wtf why would I want a duo
who cares if it can carry the run
gold can buy artemis or hermes or demeter or ares boons (all I need left before I start focusing on legendaries if I try to at all)

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I thought it might be a legend or smtn

lunar orchid
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"why would i want a duo, who cares if it can carry the run" what

long moss
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but hunting blades is just a good duo

long moss
lunar orchid
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????

long moss
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and besides hazard bomb is carrying the run

lunar orchid
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does that mean winning will make you upset?

long moss
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no

lunar orchid
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if you win are you gonna get mad?

long moss
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but wasting gold that could be used to get a prophecy would

errant bramble
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The block feature is great. Highly recommend.

long moss
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yes the shield is a good wep

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I am using rail rn toh

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tho*

lunar orchid
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yeah :)

sour coral
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if you're trying to get specific boons you havent gotten yet (for the prophecy) then the codex & olympian keepsakes are your best friend

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but if youre trying to win and beat the game

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going for duo boons like hunting blades is objectively a good option

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since its one of the few boons that are universally good regardless of your weapon/build

long moss
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DUDE
MY ATTACK PIERCES FOES AND DOES MORE TO ARMOR
NOICE

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(got a hammer)

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I had to choose it cuz prophecy
but sounds nice anyways

long moss
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don't have the codex upgrade yet tho cuz haven't done the necessary stuff for it to be visible

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I caught a pokemon lol

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I caught a chlam (which looks like a pokemon)

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it's a clam with eyes

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that's a pokemon

lunar orchid
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a clam with eyes? you mean a clam?

long moss
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those don't have eyes irl
do they?

lunar orchid
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this is a scallop but it applies to clams too

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those blue dots? those are eyes

long moss
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but
why

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you're stationary
why tf do you need eyes

viscid notch
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they cute

stone plume
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Light sensors

lunar orchid
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clams move

long moss
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THEY DO?

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I know nothing about clams apparently

lunar orchid
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but yea the eyes help them see predators so they can close

long moss
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tbf I don't even eat them so yeah

gloomy glen
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have u never seen spongebob

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the clams would pop off in that show

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flyin and chasin

cyan vault
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Yup. The also burrow

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People be sleepin’ on nature like it wasn’t built for success.

placid folio
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👋 new here. thanks for an amazing game. - Is there any news about the game getting updates or anything? Just curious to review roadmaps

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Also, if we find bugs or typos in the game, where do we submit those? Have a bugzilla?

heady solstice
stone plume
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SGG hasn't announced any future plans yet for updates, dlc, or whatever their next project may be

sour coral
stone plume
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I just remembered a bug I experienced in early access where one of the new hammer upgrades crashed the game under very specific circumstances. That one was fun

steady scroll
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Downloaded the game 2 days ago and already spent like 12 hours. Send help

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It is so good

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My fingers hurt xD

sly vigil
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One of us one of us

honest vigil
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Looks like a fun game

static ridge
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I got it cheap in a whim for Hanukkah and it’s become hone of my favorite games of all time

honest vigil
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I got it last year but I've yet to play it

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Going to play it tonight since my friends been raving about it

long moss
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DAMN I DIED WITH THE FINAL BOSS AT LIKE 10% HEALTH LEFT

honest vigil
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Rip

severe gazelle
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😭

long moss
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this was my 2nd time seeing him

severe gazelle
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in my first run seeing him he was like 3% hp

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it took me 8 more runs to beat him

long moss
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you just said that

severe gazelle
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i need time to type

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im not sonic

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on my 100th run i made a new file to see how many runs i need to win the game

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i guessed around 15 and now i lost my 4th run

honest vigil
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How hard is the game

severe gazelle
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hard to easy to hard again

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it starts hard because you don't have anything

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then you get upgrades

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it becomes more and more easy

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and then later areas become harder

honest vigil
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Sounds fun

long moss
severe gazelle
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idk if asterius count?

glass flower
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I've beaten Asterius and he doesn't show up on the list

long moss
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I have not killed asterius as a miniboss
he concedes

glass flower
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Apparently it's only "armored" minibosses

severe gazelle
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oh makes sense

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did you beat the giant butter fly?

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did you beat the giant rat?

long moss
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look at the list

glass flower
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The pink sphere thing? I have

long moss
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I did the rat

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I
think I did the pink sphere thing?

severe gazelle
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ther eis i think that poison one

sour coral
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I dont think you did

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otherwise it'd show up on the list

glass flower
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I've beaten the rat, but didn't check the list to see if he showed up

severe gazelle
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there is that guy who shoot the poision

long moss
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I did the rat

severe gazelle
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there is a mini boss version

glass flower
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The pink sphere is the Soul Catcher

severe gazelle
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he is bigger and shoot s3 shots instead of one

glass flower
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The satyr? I haven't

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I avoided the boss encounters in the Temple of Styx so far

severe gazelle
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well they are in the quest

long moss
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if you manage to kill asterius during the miniboss fight does he not show up for the boss?
or is it impossible to kill him early?

glass flower
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There's 3 in each lower realm, so Styx bosses could account for the missing 4

severe gazelle
fresh current
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@glass flower you have it backwards buddy!

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Don’t be afraid of skull rooms in Styx

sour coral
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its impossible to kill asterious in the miniboss encounter

severe gazelle
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they give double reward

long moss
fresh current
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They are many times easier and faster than the large room fights

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Sack up, if you made it to Styx you can handle what’s in there

glass flower
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I had no idea

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I'll try them next time I get to Styx

fresh current
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Yeah that’s one of those unintended consequences

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I think they meant?? For them to be harder

sly vigil
severe gazelle
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oh i love seeing the giant minibosses get destroyed with meta builds

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like ice wine beuwolf

fresh current
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But in reality the mini bosses are often easier

glass flower
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Is it only one encounter?

severe gazelle
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no

severe gazelle
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normal rooms but last room is just a mini boss

fresh current
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^^^^^

glass flower
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Man I've been doing Styx all wrong

long moss
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the only miniboss I find harder that I've done so far is the witch circle and asterius

severe gazelle
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@glass flower the wrong thing i did was save money the whole run to buy titan blood/diamonds

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its not worth

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you can buy so much more

glass flower
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Yeah, no way I'm saving up 1200 Obols for Titans Blood

fresh current
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Wait why not 👀

severe gazelle
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its such a waste

glass flower
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And it's like 2000 for a Diamond, right? I didn't even know you could collect that much in a run

sour coral
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diamond is 1k

fresh current
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1000 for diamond

sour coral
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blood 1.2k

severe gazelle
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you could buy like 3 max hp and 2 boons and maybe 2 or 3 poms with some hp

fresh current
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1200 for blood

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But on the other hand if you can afford it it’s 50% of a run’s worth of rewards

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Blood rewards*

severe gazelle
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well..

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i just want some things to help me accualy beat the run

sour coral
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something worth noting is that when you're faced with an alternative to the shop prior to the main boss, its always a free room (ex: Shop vs Heart right before the Meg encounter is basically a heart that you dont have to pay for)

fresh current
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For sure

severe gazelle
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idk its very personal choice

fresh current
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Success is success

severe gazelle
glass flower
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I don't spend much on Charon's item shops, but I usually get all the boons I can afford before bosses

severe gazelle
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anything less that 200 is a risk and just go the other way

sour coral
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i rarely ever go to charon's shop these days tbh

severe gazelle
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and not spending money is my most CRUCIAL early mistake

sour coral
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i think charon's shop is only worth if you're going to buy at least 2 of his items

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or if the alternative room reward is trash

severe gazelle
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or if you cna afford something you want

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like boons are 150

sour coral
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bc otherwise you can just get the free reward in the other room

severe gazelle
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when you have 150+ allways go charon

sour coral
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if its the midshop you can consider it if you're limping

severe gazelle
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im in love with charon's heal lately

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its like 130 for 70 some coins

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absolutely worth take my wallet

sour coral
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the heal is dependent on your health total

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its always 30% of your max hp

severe gazelle
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oh cool

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i was wandering for some reason

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._.

stone plume
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I think the max health is almost always worth it over charon, hermes absolutely is, pom is questionable but it can be

severe gazelle
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pretty much

stone plume
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I tend to save larger amounts for fewer shop and mostly spend gold in the last shop

severe gazelle
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but anythin gelse like gemstone darkness keys

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ye double poms is cool

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can you beleive i got 3 zeus in styx and i have the req for legendary and didnt get it?

stone plume
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You never get permanent rewards against end of area charon, although mid-area that's definitely a consideration

severe gazelle
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well that's something i didnt know

stone plume
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Yeah, things like gems, darkness, and keys are in the blue laurel pool for permanent items, while things like poms, health, hammers, and boons are in the gold laurel pool for run items. The last chamber of an area is always gold laurel

fresh current
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Ooooooo thats handy. Thought that was all RNG

swift pasture
sudden trout
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Didn't know that either... O=

stone plume
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Styx rewards are also always gold laurel

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I think the second chamber is always blue if you get a boon at the start and if you get a Daedalus it can be gold? Not sure about that one though, haven’t specifically checked

stray terrace
wooden trench
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Uhh, pretty sure that doesn't happen

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But maybe it glitched

humble ore
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Finished the main story!!!

fresh current
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Congrats!

humble ore
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Thanks!

honest vigil
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I beat the first boss

humble ore
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Congrats! Now you can move to a new region...

honest vigil
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Yeah this lava place is annoying

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Made it to the second boss with no death defiance's, hopefully I win

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Yikes that guy is hard

fresh current
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So um guys 🙈

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I dont like to buck trends

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But I’m looking at darkness for sale in the last shop in asphodel

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Isn’t that illegal?

sleek pond
reef herald
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when you realized ||hades|| has a second stage

lunar orchid
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yup!! you can do it tho i believe in you

reef herald
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hehehehehehehe ok

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i just gotta get there with a good build

static creek
cyan vault
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Hydra is troubling at first. Now he’s probably the easiest.

unique cairn
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am i supposed to fight meg again after i beat her and go through all the everytime?

fresh current
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Yes

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She will become one of your favorite people

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She’s a lot better company than her siblings, at least

burnt snow
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there are 3 of them right ?

fresh current
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Mmhmmmm. The mythic Three Furies

burnt snow
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is it random who of them i will face ?

fresh current
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I believe it is

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Once you are eligible to face all 3

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You are introduced to them in a structured? Order I think?

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But meg you will always meet first

burnt snow
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should i focus on completing the mirror first ?

cyan vault
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Yea. Think ground hog day. Kind of an homage to early game design.

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Each run you get just a little bit stronger.

unique cairn
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do most people play on god mode?

cyan vault
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Things get a little harder. You get a little stronger.

unique cairn
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like is the game supposed to be really hard? even on god mode

cyan vault
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Plenty of people do

unique cairn
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or am i just trash

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ohh ok

cyan vault
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Others not so much.

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The community seems very nonjudgmental

unique cairn
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yea that’s true

cyan vault
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And even god mode scales

unique cairn
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should i buy more slots for the mirror, or the 8 key weapon

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wdym scales

cyan vault
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So if you are legitimately struggling then sure. Better god mode than no mode.

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God mode begins at 20% resistance.

unique cairn
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do u gain resistance without god mode

cyan vault
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If you die. That percentage ratchets up a bit.

thorn mantle
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haha im almost on 50%

unique cairn
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yeaa

cyan vault
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So it fits to you

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As far as upgrades. There are no wrong moves and the mirror is pretty flexible. A single key to respec is very cheap

unique cairn
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so should i spend 5 keys on more slots?

cyan vault
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Literally every bit of advice you will get all boils down to “keep playing”

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The mirror is a good place to spend early, yes.

unique cairn
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okok thanks

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should i buy the 8 key weapon first tho

cyan vault
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Those are both fairly cheap in the long run. How much of the mirror do you have unlocked?

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If nothing stands out as beneficial or interesting to you, a good rule of thumb is buy whatever upgrades you can afford.

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You will get stronger and go higher and collect more resources as you do this.

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Eventually 4K darkness doesn’t actually sound that overwhelming.

unique cairn
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oh wow okok

cyan vault
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And you can literally throw away keys

unique cairn
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dang okok ty

cyan vault
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Sure thing. It’s not a traditional linear story, but is still fairly intriguing. The gameplay is still the meat and potato’s of the game though so just play and have fun and try lots of different things.

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When you do eventually get all the weapons opened up, suggestion early is to use the one with the purple glow. You’ll earn more darkness on that run and get a better feel for the different options/play styles available.

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You’ll want to be at least decent with them all. Some feel better to you and some will be a little clunky at first.

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Personally, I struggle with the sword by the look of my save state.

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And am pretty decent with the fists.

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And the bow.

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Those two weapons play very differently, but you can utilize similar builds.

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Enough of the ranting though. Go play. And don’t worry about dying. It’s going to happen.

reef herald
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I B E A T T H E B I G M A N

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THE BIG MAN IS DEAD

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

low temple
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congrats

cyan vault
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Way to go dude!

honest vigil
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I beat the hydra

bitter cairn
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I consistently struggle with the enemies in elysium, the arrow and shield guys mostly. Any tips?

low temple
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for archer, stay behind cover. for shield, dash and hit their back

formal rover
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cover can help with archers, but honestly sometimes you just wanna go aggro on them

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they don’t have much health so they die pretty fast, and they’ll often try to back up when you get too close, which means they aren’t shooting you (and you can cut them down as they flee)

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but sometimes cover is the best option; depends on the context

fresh current
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I try to blow archers up as fast as I can

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Unless a room has lots of cover to engage other enemies behind

keen oracle
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Ugh, I have 29 ambrosia at the ready but Dusa is doing everything she can to avoid letting me give her some

muted latch
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she is shy

drowsy stream
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hey guys! glad to be here :)) I am new to the game actually, any important stuff I should quickly get up to speed on?

plush ridge
muted latch
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get keys, unlock all weapons then the mirror, talk to everyone after a run

plush ridge
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At beginning give currencies those priorities
Keys>Darkness>Nectar>Gems
When you unlock all weapons
Darkness>Keys>Nectar>Gems
And after fully unlocking (not maxing) mirror
Nectar>Darkness>Gems>Keys

uneven ledge
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i made the mistake of not prioritizing nectar over gemstones

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but it's okay now because even though i have little to no need for nectar it basically gives me a free pom when i take it

burnt snow
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how do i spend my titan blood to upgrade the weapons ?

alpine ridge
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gotta select the weapon, then there's a button beside each aspect

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just press E beside it in the courtyard

uneven ledge
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you have to unlock all of them first and then talk to skelly

burnt snow
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i have all of them unlocked and i spoke to skelly. it says only"equip" at the weapons

pastel cipher
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equip a weapon and try pressing the equip button again on the same weapon

hollow ledge
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I think you have to wait a bit after unlocking them

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I needed to wait like 1-2 escape attempts

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after that, one of the weapons should ||"reveal"|| itself to you and you should be able to upgrade

uneven ledge
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after unlocking the rail you then have to go on a run

burnt snow
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i see. ok thx guys!

turbid anvil
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just listen to skelly all of the time

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he's a cool dude

hollow ledge
burnt snow
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ok guys. now it says reveal! HYPERS

sterile solar
hollow ledge
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hooray!

burnt snow
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should i focus on maxing out one weapon for now ?

hollow ledge
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It's your choice

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maybe save some titan blood for other weapons too

sour coral
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some weapons are good single level investments

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like hera bow for example

mighty raft
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If you've not beaten the final boss yet, invest the titan blood into the weapon that you think you can break out with

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Because after that you'll have an abundance of titan blood trust me(I have like 15 rn and I dont know what to do with it)

light grove
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Drink it

mighty raft
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Drink what

light grove
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The blood

mighty raft
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You can drink it?

light grove
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No, I was making a silly joke

mighty raft
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Ohh

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lmao

light grove
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Since you said you didn't know what to do with it

mighty raft
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ok

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Yeah there's so many aspects and idk what to do

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I just completed the quest to break out using all the ||pact of punishment|| conditions and got 15 titan blood

fresh current
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What weapon do you like most so far?

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15 blood is enough for 3 full Zagreus aspect upgrades

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Or 1 non-zag

honest vigil
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I just use whatever weapon has the darkness buff

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They all feel good

mighty raft
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Just kinda break it up

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Its not that hard if you do it in groups of like 3 or 4

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I did one half for 1 run and another half for another

blazing trail
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when im at ||the temple of styx|| should i go through every path before fighting ||hades?||

woven gazelle
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depends on u

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if u want time no

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if u want strongk yes

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but it also depends on whether the offers fit ur build

blazing trail
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i dont really have a "build"

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im just grabbing w/e seems "best"

woven gazelle
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most newbies do

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but trust me its best to think of a build if u want to get stronger faster

blazing trail
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well this is the newbie chat, right?

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yeah but i dont know anything about builds

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i dont have much of anything unlocked yet

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i still havent beaten ||hades|| yet lol

woven gazelle
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its good to try tho

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start them early

full swan
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Okay I'm really debating on what spear aspect I should be investing in. Lately been loving the starting aspect too much to get any other. What are your opinions?

blazing trail
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sure when i have everything unlocked and start speedrunning

woven gazelle
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achilles is the only aspect that matters

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other than the hidden one

full swan
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And why is that?

woven gazelle
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u can get good builds as early as fresh file

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cause its fun :3

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plus gives u damage

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so much damage

blazing trail
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like what

woven gazelle
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merciful end

blazing trail
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tf is a merciful end

woven gazelle
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its the duo boon for athena and ares

blazing trail
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i havent found it yet

woven gazelle
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u get duos by focusing on two gods

blazing trail
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yes i jnow

woven gazelle
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what weapon do u like using

blazing trail
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i dont know

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i just use w/e is purple

woven gazelle
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fair

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let me think of my fave build

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what aspects do u have

blazing trail
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does "spam bouncy phalanx" count as a build

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lol

woven gazelle
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yea haha

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tho its best to use for cast aspects like poseidon

blazing trail
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i dont know what those words mean

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whats an aspect

woven gazelle
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oof fair

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let me think

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ares on attack for any long range weapon is good

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spam zeus call for any short range weapon

blazing trail
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how do you spam call lol

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i get to activate call like

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once an entire run

woven gazelle
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do u know the little bars inside the giant bar

blazing trail
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yes

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they like

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never go up

woven gazelle
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when even one fills up u can use it already

blazing trail
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yeah that never happens lol

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i get to like

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once

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per run

woven gazelle
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it doesnt have to be full to be used

blazing trail
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i've straight up started skipping getting call

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because its useless

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i understand that it doesnt need to be full to be used

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but it like

woven gazelle
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u can also get boons to quicken the xall from zeus and Poseidon

sly vigil
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Don't expect to use call every fight. Save it for boss fights. Also some weapons can build call faster than others.

blazing trail
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doesnt go up enough to be used

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unless im like

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getting beaten up

woven gazelle
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u can get zeus boon that makes it go up faster

blazing trail
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last few runs i've basically gotten one use out of it and that was at ||hades||

woven gazelle
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or get thebhermes call that makes it go up automatically

floral nacelle
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Use call every fight if you luck into smoldering air

woven gazelle
#

ya

blazing trail
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i have no idea what a smoldering air is lol

floral nacelle
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the aphro zeus duo boon

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call charges automatically but it's capped at 25%

woven gazelle
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its perfext for zeus call

sly vigil
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If you are new, just focus on using call when it's available, instead of forcing it.

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Don't overthink it.

blazing trail
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bleh i have no idea how to dodge ||hades's|| attacks lol

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third death at him

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its getting to the point where my runs are reliably getting to him though

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im new yeah

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im just ignoring the existence of call last few runs

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because its never available to be used

sly vigil
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I'm sure you'll get there

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Which attack you don't dodge well?

floral nacelle
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some calls, like artemis's, are better being used at the greater call

blazing trail
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literally all of them lol

sly vigil
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Lul

blazing trail
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oof.

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im just getting dunked on lol

floral nacelle
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nah, dio's and zeus's are better at lesser call

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because hangover can only stack so much and you don't want to be too close to the enemy for too long

blazing trail
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.>

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"dont want to stay close to the enemy for too long"

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i guess im playing wrong. 😛

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i do everything in my power to stay on their butts

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cant damage me if i melt them. >_>

floral nacelle
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the closer you are, the easier it is for you to hit them and vice versa

blazing trail
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outside of the bosses im mostly just stunlocking and killing them

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so being close = they die faster

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the bosses other than the final boss all are kinda easy so i'm able to just stay on them and do absurd damage before they go invuln

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especially on the knuckles

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because you can normal attack and then before the combo finishes do a dash attack and then it starts the normal attack combo again

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and you can do that endlessly

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and it melts bosses really fast

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final boss's attacks all hit in a wide 360 degree around him so im just kinda getting my booty wrecked lol

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whats a build for the shield?

floral nacelle
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use the pillars to hide when he does that

blazing trail
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i dont usually have enough time to get away from him

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cuz, well

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im right on him

floral nacelle
#

that's what the extra dashes are for

blazing trail
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i havent been lucking out and getting extra dash boons

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what do i use ambrosia for?

floral nacelle
#

it's like advanced nectar

blazing trail
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i cant seme to be able to give it to anyone

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so its piling up

floral nacelle
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you need to do their favor first before you can give it to them

blazing trail
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what does that mean

floral nacelle
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Characters have a locked heart, to unlock it, you need to do something for them first like talking to them a lot or sopmething

blazing trail
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what qualifies as a lot

floral nacelle
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it depends on the character

blazing trail
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im talking to everyone every time i wipe

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im at like

floral nacelle
#

their favors to unlock their heart is different

blazing trail
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20 runs?

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as an experiment i tried dumping nectar in to skelly and it hasnt gone anywhere

floral nacelle
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his favor has something to do with the weapons

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you'll know when he asks you, but to get his favor first requires ||putting titan blood in non-zag aspects||

blazing trail
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how many? after my last wipe i put some in to Poseidon, and Achilles

floral nacelle
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4 apparently

blazing trail
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hmmm

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whats a good build for the gun

#

?

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vanilla

woven gazelle
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ares

blazing trail
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ares what, exactly?

woven gazelle
#

then artemis special plus hammer upgrase that gives 300% damage to special

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ares on attack

blazing trail
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i havent gotten any of that yet this run

woven gazelle
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artemis aid for call tho it has to charge all the way

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then hunting blades or crystals

honest vigil
#

Should I prioritize getting more of the mirror or more weapons

woven gazelle
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more mirror for strength

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more weapons if u want fun

honest vigil
#

I have mirror down to the extra cast

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And I have everything maxed besides dd

blazing trail
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i got the revive after death and then focused on unlocking the weapons

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then went full mirror

woven gazelle
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max out dd

honest vigil
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Ok

blazing trail
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instead of maxing dd i got stubborn

woven gazelle
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if u r baby

blazing trail
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especially since i realized i could take intentional deaths to heal

woven gazelle
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u will want dd

blazing trail
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i like stubborn more than dd

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because it has more value/utility

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im pretty baby

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im just also.. decent at games like this?

woven gazelle
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ull die a lpt in final boss

blazing trail
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yeah

woven gazelle
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thats why u need dd

blazing trail
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thats where im dying

woven gazelle
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u need dd for ||daddy||

blazing trail
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but with dd i die before the final boss

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problem with dd is

woven gazelle
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u can get more dd w athena boons

honest vigil
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I just use my dd, then pray for the refill dd guy in elysium

woven gazelle
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u can also but it

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buy

blazing trail
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i'd rather use stubborn

fluid berry
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Hey, guys! I just got in the server and I was thinking about buying Hades, do you guys have any tips?

blazing trail
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and get good enough to beat ||daddy||

honest vigil
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That's fine

blazing trail
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without spamming revives

woven gazelle
#

up to u dude

honest vigil
woven gazelle
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tips:
dash is your friend
max out mirror
divine dash all the way
ares for attack

fluid berry
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Lol, thank you.

woven gazelle
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ares cast is also the strongest

blazing trail
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i like phalanx the most

woven gazelle
#

this is a vague tip but

blazing trail
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the blades cool but big bouncy boom is cooler imo

woven gazelle
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look at zag when playing defensive

honest vigil
#

Everyone can have their own opinion

woven gazelle
#

look at enemy when playinh offensive

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im giving the vanilla build

fluid berry
woven gazelle
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then learn to switch between the two so u dont focus too much at one

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know that u can destroy projectiles save for lasers

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hitting enemies keeps them from attacking

honest vigil
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Yeah

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Unless they are armored

fluid berry
woven gazelle
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aka yellow outline

honest vigil
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If they are armored they don't get stunned

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Yeah

woven gazelle
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learn to time ur dash

fluid berry
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Yellow=armored, ?=regular

woven gazelle
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successive attacks increases the damage

honest vigil
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If they have no outline color=regular

fluid berry
#

ah, is there a ton of different variations when it comes to enemies?

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Like I mean enemy types

woven gazelle
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so many

fluid berry
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I should have phrased better

fluid berry
woven gazelle
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advice for first boss is just keep hitting her but dodge when she does an animatiob

fluid berry
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I am assuming they all have their unique color outlines

woven gazelle
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prepare to dodge when shes abt to pounce then rain the hits

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they dont

stray terrace
woven gazelle
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they either got a yellow outline or none at all

fluid berry
#

Ohh, I see

woven gazelle
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when first boss pulls out the aoe

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dash towards her to dodge then hit

humble ore
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If you have deflect you can just slam the orbs she shoots back in her face for a ton of damage

stray terrace
#

general game tips for hades is to experiment with everything

fluid berry
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or just specific ones

stray terrace
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you can deflect pretty much anything including most projectile attacks

humble ore
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Pretty much anything but projectiles are the best

fluid berry
woven gazelle
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turn on god mode if youre baby

stray terrace
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god mode isnt just for bad people

humble ore
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Since they then do damage to the enemy after you deflect them

fluid berry
fluid berry
woven gazelle
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athena is your bestie

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she lets u deflect

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EVERYTHING

humble ore
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And not to mention ME

fluid berry
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Oh dang, I like the sound of that

fluid berry
humble ore
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It stands for Merciful End, a duo boon

stray terrace
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me is an acronym for merciful end not them lol

fluid berry
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Ah, see I was thinking they added a dude named "Ferragus the Slack Wyrm"

humble ore
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Lol

fluid berry
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thanks for clearing it up

humble ore
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Np

fluid berry
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Interesting though, is there different difficulties or is the game set on one?

stray terrace
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theres like different settings but no set difficulties

fluid berry
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ahh

stray terrace
#

hell mode disables god mode though

fluid berry
#

God mode, I am guessing makes you a bit more resistant to attacks or something?

stray terrace
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yup

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doesnt affect anything else

humble ore
#

I actually didn’t ever use god mode and still completed the story

fluid berry
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Mmm, remind me of sentinel mode from doom eternal

fluid berry
stray terrace
#

yes!

humble ore
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Yeah it’s a lot of fun

fluid berry
#

Ooooh

stray terrace
#

the game has tons of different builds

humble ore
#

Especially after your first completed run

woven gazelle
#

there are 6 weapons

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w 5 diff modes

stray terrace
#

wdym modes

woven gazelle
#

aspects

stray terrace
#

4 aspects, not 5

humble ore
#

There’s 4 aspects thank you

fluid berry
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Ohhh, I see

woven gazelle
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oof my math

fluid berry
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LOL ur all good

humble ore
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And there’s the ||pact of punishment||

stray terrace
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an aspect is something you unlock later in the game that changes a weapons main gimmick

humble ore
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Spoilers for after first run

woven gazelle
#

plus the story requires u to die to progress

humble ore
#

^^

fluid berry
stray terrace
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i havent played bloodborne so i cant really compare

fluid berry
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ohh, I see

stray terrace
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for example changing an aspect of a shield can cause it to have a different special attack

woven gazelle
#

im crying cause i cant play bloodborme affgjj

fluid berry
woven gazelle
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play hades first lmao

fluid berry
stray terrace
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hades has such a big endgame that you might wanna finish bloodborne first so you arent sucked into hades lol

fluid berry
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Na, I still am debating whether to go back to bloodborne, it can wait for now

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Alright, I think it is time I take my leave. Thanks for all the tips and have a good one guys!

blazing trail
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wow thats lame ||there's a second phase to hades?|| >:C

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is there a way to see which of my weapons i've gotten titan blood with so far?

swift pasture
#

Yeah

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Do you have the admin chambers unlocked from the house contractor?

blazing trail
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the what?

swift pasture
#

That would be a no?

blazing trail
#

i dont know what that is

#

its not an option for me?

swift pasture
#

If you have it as an option to buy, it's under work orders

blazing trail
#

its not

swift pasture
#

then it'll pop up in time

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Requires some dialogue first iirc

blazing trail
#

im 23 runs in so far

brisk kelp
#

its moreso plot than dialogue

blazing trail
#

is that a post-escape thing?

#

cuz im still pre

brisk kelp
#

nah

blazing trail
#

idk what i need to do then

brisk kelp
#

actually it might be?

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I dont remember

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Dont think it is

swift pasture
#

It's not

stray terrace
#

you can check best run time with your weapons in the reveal thing, if its blank you havent beat the game with it yet

swift pasture
#

That too

stray terrace
#

or you can check the fated list

blazing trail
#

reveal thing?

stray terrace
#

where you invest titan blood

swift pasture
#

Though that won't show if you've collected titan's blood with a weapon

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Just if you escaped

blazing trail
#

besides the one titan blood you get from meg how else do i get titan blood?

#

can i reset weapons that i invested and didnt like the result?

swift pasture
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You get 6 from her, once per weapon

blazing trail
#

i got those 6 i think already

swift pasture
#

And nope, doesn't work like the mirror

blazing trail
#

i didnt understand how it worked

swift pasture
#

Then you'll get it from the final boss

blazing trail
#

and didnt realize aspects were

#

different styles

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i thought they were like

#

incremental upgrades

swift pasture
#

nope

blazing trail
#

great

#

i wasted it

#

should i sell my ambrosia for blood? i cant find a use for it

swift pasture
#

Keep it for now

brisk kelp
#

honestly id just keep farming darkness until you're strong enough to beat the final boss

blazing trail
#

but there's like no use for it

swift pasture
brisk kelp
#

look up some good easy builds online

blazing trail
#

at this point i dont think its darkness

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my mirror is very deep now

brisk kelp
#

3 death defiances?

blazing trail
#

i just need to learn the boss better

#

i dont use dd

#

i use stubborn

swift pasture
#

That could be why

brisk kelp
#

might wanna use death defiance yeah

swift pasture
#

You might do better with dd

blazing trail
#

nah

brisk kelp
#

its better for the boss

blazing trail
#

stubborn is better

swift pasture
#

Stubborn is better per room, dd is better on bosses

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By far

blazing trail
#

i want the per room

swift pasture
#

Then take Skelly's keepsake?

stray terrace
#

death defiance is way better than stubborn defiance

brisk kelp
#

unless you're playing on ||high heat||, you want dd

blazing trail
#

i dont like death defiance

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i dont know what heat means

brisk kelp
#

try it

blazing trail
#

i did try it

brisk kelp
#

oops

blazing trail
#

thats why i swapped to stubborn

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because i liked per room more

swift pasture
#

Why don't you like DD?

brisk kelp
#

the rooms are much easier

stray terrace
#

if youre dying every room you might want to consider getting better

blazing trail
#

im not dying every room

stray terrace
#

then you dont need sd

blazing trail
#

there's a few rooms in elysium and the area before the final boss

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that are easy to die in

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and i didnt like losing my DD

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because of that

swift pasture
#

You can buy them back via wells

brisk kelp
#

and patroclus

swift pasture
#

Or through Elysium's npc room

blazing trail
#

you can if you 1. get a well 2. get the ability to and 3. have the money

stray terrace
#

some athena boons restore dds

swift pasture
#

^

blazing trail
#

which is more variance

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which i'd rather not mess with

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provided 1. athena shows up

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and 2. offers a restore

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which are further reasons i liked stubborn more

swift pasture
#

Fair

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I just find dd easier to use on bosses, it's not hard to save money and rerolls for wells if needed

stray terrace
#

either that or

  1. hope asterius and theseus dont kick your ass with sd and die
blazing trail
#

asterius and theseus are another reason why i prefer stubborn

stray terrace
#

what why

blazing trail
#

because i almost always die at least once at them

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and i dont want to waste a dd on them

stray terrace
#

thats what dds are for, to use

swift pasture
#

It's not a waste if it keeps you alive

blazing trail
#

well you're telling me to use dd for the final boss

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and if i use them before the final boss

swift pasture
#

Nah, I'm saying every boss

blazing trail
#

then i cant use them for him now can't I?

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thats why I like SB

stray terrace
#

you can purchase dds in styx

swift pasture
#

^

blazing trail
#

provided you get lucky and they show up or you have the money for them

brisk kelp
#

Also

blazing trail
#

which hasn't always happened

brisk kelp
#

You get 3 of them

swift pasture
#

I normally use one or two on the champions every time and buy them back via styx

brisk kelp
#

when its maxed

#

Thats enough for one run

swift pasture
#

Having the money isn't hard either, you'll want to save it anyway

brisk kelp
#

thats 4 whole ass lives before boons and shops

blazing trail
#

i rarely have money

swift pasture
#

I never buy stuff from the early shops

blazing trail
#

either because i dont take money routes

#

or i buy early

brisk kelp
#

dont do that

blazing trail
#

why

brisk kelp
#

Do you get coin from the vases

blazing trail
#

ewwww 3 DD is so expensive

swift pasture
#

Don't buy early, it's better to save money for when you really need it.

blazing trail
#

no

brisk kelp
#

its mad worth

swift pasture
#

^^^^^

blazing trail
#

im gonna trust you

#

and see if its really worth having 3

#

im gonna be doubtful though

brisk kelp
#

If you play well, it makes the bosses much easier

#

levels out the playing field a lot more

swift pasture
#

It forces you to be careful too

#

I like having that weight of knowing I can't get reckless and use one too early

blazing trail
#

the bosses were already easy with SB

swift pasture
#

Because my reckless runs are the ones I don't win

blazing trail
#

i do better when im reckless vs safe tbh

#

i overthink when im trying to be safe

swift pasture
#

How so?

stray terrace
#

reckless strategies rely on thoughtful planning beforehand

swift pasture
#

Or busted builds that do most of the work

blazing trail
#

i just go face

#

and kill stuff before they can hurt me

#

which is more effective than you might think

stray terrace
#

thats probably why youre dying in elysium

#

cause you cant just oneshot everything

blazing trail
#

i didnt say oneshot

swift pasture
#

You can't do that on the flaming cat beasts, greatshields, or anything else that has to be killed twice

blazing trail
#

whats a flaming cat beast

#

that has never spawned in any of my runs

stray terrace
#

flame wheels

#

suicide chariots

blazing trail
#

oh

swift pasture
#

I know the actual name, I can't spell it

blazing trail
#

those are easy

swift pasture
#

Thank you, chariots

blazing trail
#

just cast

#

and they blow up

#

or depending on the weapon

#

you can kite them

#

the rooms that mess me up in elysium are when there is a bunch of armored spear throwers or armored great shields

#

like a bunch of them.

#

its hard to kill them permanently when it's low-key a bullet hell

swift pasture
#

That's when you lure one or two away from the rest and take them out one by one

blazing trail
#

i havent been able to reliably do that

#

they all just stay as a big cluster

#

:C

swift pasture
#

Then you'll want to use aoe attacks if you can

blazing trail
#

thats what i try to do

#

usually if i do get that room

#

its before the minotaur

#

and usually ends up killing me

#

which is why I like SB. 😛

jovial bronze
blazing trail
#

what is a double jump

swift pasture
#

Double jump?

blazing trail
#

im not very good at deflecting the spears

#

usually i just try to dodge them

jovial bronze
#

In the dark mirror of nikta, there is a bun for 2 dash in a row

swift pasture
#

Attacks can destroy projectiles so

#

Oh, greater reflex

#

Yeah, that's a must

blazing trail
#

i have greater reflex

#

i havent been able to destroy a spear

jovial bronze
#

Hah, good

swift pasture
#

Well, the shield could block them

#

Or any deflect boons if you have them

jovial bronze
#

Still it will work out, do not despair!!

blazing trail
#

i usually go for attack boon

#

but

swift pasture
#

Otherwise I'd say just keep moving and go for backstabs

blazing trail
#

i havent been able to deflect the spears

#

yes

#

thats what i do

#

"keep moving and go for backstabs"

#

is the only strat i've found that works for that room

jovial bronze
#

What weapon do you play with?

blazing trail
#

whichever is purple

swift pasture
#

Eh, I've used a bunch of strats.
Picking them off with the bow, aoe on hera is great too
Using the shield to block attacks then charge through to repeat it
Buffing Talos' special and dragging them too me as I drain health in seconds
etc

blazing trail
#

i hate the bow lol

swift pasture
#

I love the bow

jovial bronze
swift pasture
#

Not having that range feels eh

blazing trail
#

i like the fists and the spear the most

#

but i use whichever is purple

#

because i want dat 20% darkness

swift pasture
#

If you've got it unlocked, try the aspect of talos on the fists. Your special will pull enemies to you, which helps to pick them off one by one.

blazing trail
#

i dont

#

i dont have the blood for it either

jovial bronze
#

Spear with Poseidon's blessing to fold back

blazing trail
#

because i wasted it

swift pasture
#

What'd you spend the blood on?

blazing trail
#

the sword

#

because i misinterpreted what the blood system was for

swift pasture
#

Max Zag or?

blazing trail
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no

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i spread it across the different options

swift pasture
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Ah

blazing trail
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because i thought it was incremental upgrades

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not

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separate styles

jovial bronze
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Arthur's sword

swift pasture
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Both are good though

blazing trail
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i dont really like them tbh

swift pasture
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Heck, I don't think there's a bad aspect

blazing trail
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i wish i could refund the blood

jovial bronze
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Im personally tired of him

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Better to alternate weapons

swift pasture
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^

blazing trail
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thats what i do

swift pasture
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You might discover a playstyle or build you really enjoy that way

blazing trail
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thats what im trying to do

jovial bronze
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I have one achievement missing in steam !!!

blazing trail
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all i've found is that i like the bouncy phalanx shot

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and i like dash attacking

swift pasture
jovial bronze
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Sec

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I cant send a photo(

swift pasture
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Just tell me the name, I've got steam pulled up so I can check which that is

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or dm the one you're missing

jovial bronze
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Leid tun on turn

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My name

knotty grail
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Is there any condition to trigger Achilles Locked Heart Event? I'm already did around 80 run. Most bonds are already fully unlocked. But no matter what - Achilles won't trigger.

blazing trout
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I think you have to help ||Patroclus|| to unlock his heart

blazing trail
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whats a locked heart?

blazing trout
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After you give someone enough nectar then they have a locked heart. To get rid of a locked heart you have to do a favor for that character.

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Each character has a different favor you have to do

swift pasture
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^

knotty grail
jovial bronze
swift pasture
blazing trout
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Have you ||reunited them|| yet?

knotty grail
knotty grail
blazing trout
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||You need to talk to Achilles and Patroclus enough times for Patroclus to mention a code phrase that he requests Zagreus to tell Achilles the next time Zagreus sees Achilles. Afterwards, Zagreus can purchase the contract binding Achilles to the House of Hades.||

swift pasture
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^^^^^

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Talk to Nyx too

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||She helps you find the contract||

jovial bronze
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How many dialogues does Thanos need to give a companion, who counted?)

blazing trout
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||Note that access to this contract also requires that you have freed (at least) one of Sisyphus, or Orpheus + Eurydice, from their respective contract(s). ||

knotty grail
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Yea, I checked the Contractor couple of time. It's not there 😦

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And Nyx is also maxed already. And she indeed help me with the previous || contracts ||.

blazing trout
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Make sure to talk to Nyx also

knotty grail
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I talk with everyone every run 🙂

swift pasture
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Then it's just time till the game gives you progress towards it

jovial bronze
knotty grail
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Well. Perhaps I have been unlucky.

blazing trout
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Just wait I guess

knotty grail
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Hope it's not a bug or anything.

jovial bronze
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Who completed the entire storyline of the game?

blazing trout
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I’m pretty sure I have

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Why?

knotty grail
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Also, if we already talk. I use the || Lyre || every once in a while. Can I just watch some TV and click on it for an hour or so? or there a limit on how much you can "Advance" it per run?