beat up meggy using weapons you haven't beaten her up with yet
#h1-for-new-players
dense laurel
thats only 5 , ||heat|| is spoiler, prophecies will give a lot
hollow dust
I have seen a ez one
cyan vault
Theseus seems to be the hard stop for me most runs.
hollow dust
Same
uneven ledge
another thing to know is that when in his second phase, as soon as theseus calls upon a god to help him he's totally vulnerable while the god is trying to kill you
if you're quick you can get some good hits in while frantically trying not to get hit by the big aoe circles
silent magnet
Agree.
cyan vault
I am usually aiming for astrius to go first. Tend to pull outside the pillars and kite him around. Divine dash helps too.
uneven ledge
athena is a get-out-of-jail-free, zeus and dio are free damage and should maybe be used immediately instead of waiting for full gauge. poseidon i feel could be used more sparingly and is best as max but also a good invincibility card
artemis and aphrodite's calls are definitely best at max gauge
artemis' aid is just true shot with higher crit chance at low gauge anyways and aphro only deals a good amount of damage to one target so they're best used at max gauge to finish off a boss or something because they deal really fat damage
divine dash is a really good dash
helps a lot if you're a beginner
cyan vault
Athena helped a ton on my 1st escape.
uneven ledge
and if you get merciful end it gets crazy
dense laurel
if u want to go full call build, u can try full zeus or aphro/zeus duo boon with poseidon call
uneven ledge
smouldering air absolutely works best with dio/zeus call
you mainly want if for billowing strength and second wind which are pretty big boosts that are spammable and pretty much never expire as long as you keep using your call
dense laurel
dio call is pretty meh
north quail
yes! first time caught a very rare fish
uneven ledge
dio's aid is the best alternative to zeus if you're using smouldering air
athena's aid is meh and poseidon is also good
dense laurel
hangover just isnt that strong by itself
you can try to get curse of nausea to get it hurts better, but at that point just go zeus instead
weary vector
Athena helped a ton on my 1st escape.
I reckon Athena is one of the best gods because deflect is almost always useful
uneven ledge
problem though is that sometimes zeus doesn't show up and you're forced to take other calls
weary vector
But I'm at 2 escapes so my opinion isn't worth much
uneven ledge
all of the gods can't just show up in a single run, there a god pools that determine which gods you'll meet in your run
dense laurel
theres keepsakes
uneven ledge
athena is really helpful
weary vector
Also it was really funny deflecting the || buzzsaws at Styx || with a dinky shield
uneven ledge
Also it was really funny deflecting the || buzzsaws at Styx || with a dinky shie...
try using fists, then get curse of agony from ares, divine flourish from athena them get merciful end and divine dash
you'll be doing lots of damage
dense laurel
not thats seems less plausible, since duos arent very common to be found by new players
uneven ledge
you can just check the codex
dense laurel
wdym
uneven ledge
you've... never thought to check the codex for boons??
dense laurel
no, what i mean is duos is its own rarity
new players are harder to find them
evn if they fulfilled the prerequisites
or do u even thought of that
polar smelt
duos are fake news, I refuse to believe they exist
they've been letting me down last few runs :c
uneven ledge
i'd still recommend going for the duos since they're a huge help if they do show up
polar smelt
I know I'm just being salty 
final stump
duos?
leaden whale
a boon from 2 god, usually really helpfull (can even be build defining)
final stump
ah
sinful inlet
Fists best weapon
cyan vault
Duos are usually a game changer.
Legendaries as well
But yes, you have to usually get lucky. Picking up rarity boosts helps a lot.
Eurydices and ariadnea
For a long time I figured the rarity upgrade on existing boons was the best from Eurydice. Now I’m leaning towards. The third option that increases future rarity. Effects more boons and really impacts those T2/3 boons that push you over the top.
uneven ledge
which one you wants depends on your build
already have most of the boons you want but they're common and are pretty weak? ambrosia delight
already have most of the boons you want and they're rare/epic but are still weak? pom porridge, the first pom to a boon is always the most impactful
neither? get the nectar lol
cyan vault
I kinda try to avoid poms. Level 2 max but after that it really starts to feel like a waste.
I had a doom build going on my shield the first time I got to Theseus. Pumped the level up so much.
Like level 6 doom on my special.
And I got wrecked.
leaden whale
Can somebody dm me and explain to me why i cant unlock ||battie||?
it depends on your build too; some build have better use of poms (everything with low damage at high rate like dio attack/spe still get decent upgrade each level)
but usually, high lvl boon isn't that usefull
cyan vault
So now I just take them when I can’t avoid them. Night two at Styx shop because the gold wasn’t gonna do me any good. Had enough for a titan blood, but decided that I’d rather ensure my 1st escape.
But yeah. I’d almost always rather select three higher rarity end build boons instead of upgrade two random existing boons.
muted latch
Can somebody dm me and explain to me why i cant unlock ||battie||?
keep playing to clear first encounter and talk to meg more, it will eventually happen
leaden whale
||Yeah i know. She was in Zagreus' bedroom once, and i gave her 5 nectar. But why cant i give her Ambrosia now?||
solar panther
poms > a useless boon
True except ||for underworld customs ||
muted latch
||Yeah i know. She was in Zagreus' bedroom once, and i gave her 5 nectar. But wh...
basically what I said. Meg's favor is just beating the first encounter enough times and talk to her enough times
you dont need to do anything else
leaden whale
||So like... I just gotta wait til she talks to me?||
muted latch
yep
leaden whale
||Will she be in the bedroom again?||
muted latch
you will know once ||she shows up in your bedroom again||
muted latch
||battie is the reward for giving her ambrosia for the first time, which happens after you unlock her 6th heart||
this goes for all ||companions||
sterile carbon
im not exactly sure what ur supposed to do w/ titan blood? am i supposed to get like all of it first? cuz i've only beaten megara w/ three of the weapons
im assuming it s for some upgrade but what's the upgrade
or is it like an automatic upgrade
stiff lintel
you can upgrade the weapons with it eventually
sterile carbon
ah
stiff lintel
In the weapon room you should be able to equip a weapon and then click again to see its stats
leaden whale
it's not avalaible from the start
stiff lintel
Yeah you get it very early from what I remember though
leaden whale
yes
stiff lintel
There are other things you can use the blood for but weapons are the main use by far
cyan vault
I’d also suggest using them sparingly when you first get them. Look at all the different weapons and pick up the ones that will fit your play style the best. Eventually you will get more, but at first it is very limited supply.
Personally, I think the first two that made the biggest impact for me are Chiron bow and talos fists. They both seem to increase the general range of attack that’s available to you.
sterile carbon
ah i use the spear mainly cuz i can do longe range but still spam attacks cuz im not v coordinated at dodging or attacking lol
fluid yoke
yeah spears good
cyan vault
If you are also just starting out, I’ve tried really hard to use whichever wraps is gonna give me the darkness boost. I want to farm darkness faster and using multiple weapons will help me get better overall.
That being said, the spear was one of the first aspects I went for. The bull rush spear return is a nice addition. You can also still call the spear to you with an attack instead of special
fluid yoke
achilles is
probably a good weapon to get into as a beginner
lots of mobility and power
sterile carbon
also question? how exactly r u supposed to attack theseus? i feel like there's probably some telegraphed motion ur does when ur supposed to attack him but i just try to dash behind him & see if that works
cyan vault
Yeah. I opted for the aspects that change mechanics first instead of the damage increases. Don’t have a cast weapon yet, but I think I have enough to change that now.
fluid yoke
hera is a solid cast weapon
you can put 2 titan blood in
and its fine
it works well is my point
leaden whale
also question? how exactly r u supposed to attack theseus? i feel like there's p...
if you have a close range weapon, dash behind him to attack can work; for something like bow, i wait until he turn his back (after spear throw) to attack him
fluid yoke
burst aoe damage works as well
depending on waht it is and how you hit him
like trippy shot
sterile carbon
burst aoe damage works as well
no idea what that means lmao
cyan vault
Telegraphs are there for Theseus, but each weapon has it’s own mechanics and you’ll need slightly different tactics.
errant bramble
He always turns around and walks away after throwing spear. Dodge spear, double dash at him, backstab a bit, run away. Repeat
north quail
also question? how exactly r u supposed to attack theseus? i feel like there's p...
what weapon do you use?
sterile carbon
spear !
fluid yoke
damage that cant easily be blocked by a single shield
oh
you can
throw the special and get backstab damage
uneven ledge
yeah that works
north quail
after his throw dash to him (behind him) and start attacking him
or throw it and get it back
fluid yoke
if you'r eusing achilles
you could use the bull rush to dash behind him
and then start going ham
uneven ledge
if he does the spin attack he just stands there doing nothing for a brief moment
easy backstab damage
oo that could be good
sterile carbon
ah can u not swear here
uneven ledge
swearing? in hell of all places!?
fluid yoke
you cannot
uneven ledge
i don't mind
sterile carbon
i was gonna say idk if i haven't learned any of their telegraphs yet or my vision is just. terrible
north quail
telegraphs?
uneven ledge
you can also attack him when he calls a god, during the start of his second phase he really does just stands there
fluid yoke
yeah thats a big damage opportunity
uneven ledge
only problem would be frantically trying to avoid the attacks of the god trying to kill you
sterile carbon
telegraphs?
idk if im using the right term y which i mean the animations the boss do before every attack
so u can dodge them etc
leaden whale
i was gonna say idk if i haven't learned any of their telegraphs yet or my visio...
for the spear throw, it's easy to find as you have a target on you before. he usually does that when he have direct sight on you, and you aren't too close. If you get close, he will do swipe
uneven ledge
and asterius if you didn't kill him first (((which you should)))
something you'll have probably noticed by now but is really important is that dashes have i-frames. abuse it as much as possible
sterile carbon
i-frames?
north quail
idk if im using the right term y which i mean the animations the boss do before ...
oh
i'm blind to those so it's either pure luck or i'm doing it automatically
uneven ledge
invincibility frames
sterile carbon
yes when i still haven't figured out how to dodge megara's attac when she just throws a volley of projectiles so i just spam dash around the screen lol
uneven ledge
basically you can't take damage mid-dash which means you can actually dash at a very specific moment to avoid damage instead of frantically dashing away from the enemy
muted latch
dashes not only just have i frames
you are invincible through the ENTIRE animation
that is, the moment zag starts his dash animation all the way till he comes to a complete stop
you are invincible throughout the entire time
so abuse that as much as you can
uneven ledge
main reason why greater reflex is great
north quail
spam dash everywhere is a good strategy but not just chaotic spam, controlled spam
uneven ledge
aside from speedruns lol
uneven ledge
spam dash everywhere is a good strategy but not just chaotic spam, controlled sp...
dash-only builds 
north quail
damn
muted latch
that is actually a viable thing!
north quail
is it based on revenge damage (ares + athena duo) + dash boons?
muted latch
poseidon dash + wallslam + rupture
sterile carbon
i love the dash boons so much cuz instead of actually playing the game i can just spam b around the screen
uneven ledge
definitely not based on revenge damage
sterile carbon
it's just really satisfying imo
uneven ledge
revenge builds are the stupidest thing
muted latch
that would be Merciful End
uneven ledge
you can kill the final boss without doing anything
north quail
zeus + ares then
muted latch
revenge duo is Zeus + Ares
north quail
yes
floral nacelle
You unlock it after winning once
muted latch
spoilers in this channel
floral nacelle
||it allows you to make the game more difficult in various ways in exchange for boss rewards||
muted latch
also ||8 is nothing once you get to it||
severe gazelle
||i have completed the game 5 times||
||you know what diffucility up to 8 heat for my boy skelly||
muted latch
||there are some heat modifiers that basically dont add any difficulty, this means lower end of the heat ladder is not different from no heat||
floral nacelle
||id do some combination of extreme measures, middle management, tight deadline, and probably benefits package for 8 heat||
severe gazelle
||ok i made it 8 heat for my boy skelly its gonna be HARD||
stray terrace
||benefits package is an oof||
floral nacelle
||I don’t think the first level of benefits package is that bad, the second level, oof||
errant bramble
||random hidden stuff||
||yeah benefits 1 isn’t bad. May as well get used to it also||
uneven ledge
||td1/bp1/mm/em2|| is the way to go
leaden whale
faster probably, easier i don't know.
errant bramble
The people who think it’s easier are...kinda crazy. But whatever lol
There’s lots more incidental damage, more things to dodge, larger aoe damage, significantly more issues if you’re melee
uneven ledge
||where's his chariot?||
errant bramble
||can the next patch give new weapon that is a Chariot lol||
simple pike
||I want to race Theseus||
old escarp
Eventually you will be able to buy a fishing rod, just gotta keep playing
north quail
very important question: how do u fish
you buy a fishing rod and fish in some random locations throughout your adventure
fishing spots spawn randomly
sterile carbon
ok thanks
surreal fog
Is there much more to the game post ||killing hades|| Ive loved the game so far and my quick run with ||pact of punishment|| was quite fun im just struggling to see the replay ability now i've reached the end..?
Don't get me wrong im still going to invest far too much time into getting my runs faster, just setting my expectations
stray terrace
||killing hades is just the beginning||
lunar orchid
oh yeah theres a lot of like, stuff to do
idk how much of it requires Doing That and how much i just ended up unlocking/triggering after i did so, but
stray terrace
theres lots of little story quest lines to do after beating the game once
surreal fog
||killing hades is just the beginning||
lmao okay ty, that put my hopes up
stray terrace
for reference i had like 60 something hours by the time i rolled credits lol
leaden whale
you still have some story to unlock after your first clear, yes. And as a roguelike, this game is made to be replayed again and again, even after the end of the story.
surreal fog
Cheers, have had a great time with hades and was scared to lose it so soon post clear
do supergiant have any intentions of expanding?
leaden whale
i think they didn't announced anything.
old escarp
There is an incredible amount of story content and NPC side plots to be had, clearing the game once is just the beginning as others have said
surreal fog
🤔
Plan to, just the weight of a time coming to an end for fear of a lack of drive was an unpleasant overhead
stray terrace
imagine if ||the game just ended after you escaped||
well that was a fun singular hour
weary vector
Wonder if anyone has managed to beat the game in one run after never playing the game before
stray terrace
people have done fresh file but no newbie has ever done it
faint umbra
well, not that we know of
errant bramble
The best thing to look forward to content wise is that eventually you don’t have to talk to Dusa anymore.
worldly vigil
buttt Dusa is awesome
severe gazelle
im in asphodel and i already have zeus:
call
normal attack
jolt
(and im using fists)
uneven ledge
oo try to get ||demeter||'s special boon
you can get a duo boon that makes your jolt even better
lost grail
Hello! I’m sorry if this is the wrong section. I haven’t gotten Hades yet. I was wondering how well it runs on Switch?
vivid patio
you might be better off asking in #h1-discussion. i dont own a switch myself but from what i've heard from switch players the performance is favourable
lost grail
Awesome! Thanks for pointing me in the correct direction!
abstract steeple
Once I've unlocked ||all of the weapons and mirror skills|| can I freely trade ||all of my keys for nectar||?
That's all the tooltip says they're for now
floral nacelle
Yep, they have no use after that
But I would also wait for a limited offer from the broker that lets you trade 15 keys for 1 titan blood
abstract steeple
I's rather trade them for nectar > diamonds as that's what I'm low on currently
More reonovations!!
errant bramble
lol lost bc Aphro call hit a Skull. Rip me
near mirage
check #h1-story-discussion pins
severe gazelle
ok thanks
gentle turtle
yo i just got Hades and i don't know what weapon to use i have all of them any pointers \
stray gate
it's alright, you can!
I'm searching from the others too
I'm just going to wait for the answers to come
coral kernel
I finally beat Hades! Pretty satisfied with my progress. I expected to be stuck on the bosses for longer than I was.
Meg took 2 tries, got Hydra on my first, Theseus + Minotaur on my 3rd attempt, and Hades on my 4th attempt
I discovered that the shield can be unbelievably powerful with all the potential knock-back damage
solemn perch
Hello. I bought Hades today. Played less than an hour for now... And finished Tartarus phase already.
What i do have to say..
It's pretty amazing game, with beautifull art and great sound effects, along to voices.
From the gameplay it highly reminds me of Bastion, except roguelite experience of dead cells i think...
👏
hollow dust
I'm not a omega noob of doom now
coral kernel
Enjoy Hayazo! This game is fantastic, I've been playing it for the past week now and it's only gotten more and more fun 🙂
stray gate
It took me from launching it one time per day to couple times now
first game that took me 20 hours and I still will want more of it (because I didn't finish the end boss, duh!)
stray gate
I use Spear as my only weapon
and as for attacks, perhaps I can say the 2nd phase is where I absolutely get stomped
mid 2nd phase
hollow dust
Who was tartarus
sour coral
Is it the vases?
stray gate
I think it's his charged up attack and the lasers
solemn perch
Enjoy Hayazo! This game is fantastic, I've been playing it for the past week now...
i only regret i didnt purchase it on the sale earlier cuz i missed it.. 🤣 and right now not patient enough to wait on sale...
tho its totally worth its full price in my opinion 👌
sour coral
For the lasers you can just hide behind rocks
As for the charged attack, do you mean his spear combo?
Or the skull throw
stray gate
I'm really not getting along with his attack patterns in general
but what I know is that I got killed twice beating up in second phase
perhaps is it his Boiled blood debuff?
coral kernel
i only regret i didnt purchase it on the sale earlier cuz i missed it.. 🤣 and r...
a few more hours and you'll forget that you even paid for it ;P
sour coral
His boiling blood debuff works the same as yours
faint jewel
In phase 1 he mainly has a spear thrust (he is looking at you), a blood boil throw (again, looking at you), or his swirly (telegraphed with a white circle)
don't have him be look at you
sour coral
You take increased damage
stray gate
ohh
perhaps that's why I get beaten up quickly after I take a debuff or two...
faint jewel
phase 2 is saem but there's also the fire
fiiiiiiiire
but first few instances of fire he only does 3 lasers so you can be behind him and do damage 🙂
hollow dust
I would recommend the more damage if the enemy has 2 debuffs active
stray gate
the lasers are the fires then?
sour coral
Yeah you wanna avoid getting hit by his cast
stray gate
behind a wall or a shield, right?
faint jewel
his cast is hard to see, so I just recommend not having him face you
so dash dash dash
sour coral
The debuff itself lasts 5 seconds so you can afford to wait it out if you want
His cast has a pretty telegraphed tell of when he aims his spear at you
So you can use that
sage harness
Hey all, I finally beat Hades using the sword. Super stoked. Curious how I should start using my titan blood now.
worldly vigil
Chiron bow is a lot of fun but you have to max
surreal fog
I was a bit unsure the strategy for ||styx|| always bolted as soon as I found the snack but wondered if it might be better to go back and search the other passageways, wanted to lookup see how others approached it and found that finding the snack is random? I've without fail always found it at the end of my second passageway I just assumed this was a game rule, is this just not the case have I just been getting really lucky?
or do they mean the length of the passageway is random?
worldly vigil
you are very lucky
surreal fog
im on my 23rd run beat the final boss at 20th and had been getting to him consistently for a good few runs before that prolly ~run 15
8 runs in a row its just been second passageway, I was curious as zag kept mentioning how fast he found it
worldly vigil
dang you are also much better than me lol
lunar orchid
people main weapons? i always jsut use whichever one has dark thirst
surreal fog
dang you are also much better than me lol
i blame furi for my bullet hell response, rougelikes have got a lot easier since
abstract steeple
yo i just got Hades and i don't know what weapon to use i have all of them any p...
I used whichever one had dark thirst, coupled with Dark Regeneration from the mirror once it becomes available
surreal fog
I couldn't find an answer before getting distracted by random snacks, do people recommend going back for more passageways?
im not particularly after anything and im feeling pretty confident for the hades fight but ive never gone for more than 2 passages
errant bramble
It just depends on how strong you feel usually
Fwiw, generally accepted you do the 2 boss passageways first
After that it’s just judgement call
Like 1 Pom isn’t going to make or break your run, but losing 50 hp by accident might
surreal fog
wait why the boss ones?
surely you'd want to do the easier ones no?
or do boss rooms give better stuff?
errant bramble
Boss rooms always give better stuff. Everywhere.
Rooms with skulls are better rewards
worldly vigil
yeah and I find they aren't that much harder
errant bramble
And you always get a healing fountain
surreal fog
wait really..??
errant bramble
So you want to do the hard stuff before you find the fountain
worldly vigil
And you always get a healing fountain
I'm not sure that is true..
errant bramble
Uhh...yes? Every time you get to the Snack, you get a fountain
surreal fog
Ooh, it reads you get a fountain after every boss room
How so are the items better tho?
worldly vigil
poms level twice for example
surreal fog
Higher rarity?
worldly vigil
idk about rarity, but like for obols you get more
errant bramble
Skull rooms give 2 keys instead of 1, more darkness/gems, higher rarity boons
Skull rooms in Styx give 200g, double Pom, double health
surreal fog
wow i really am unobservant
I have noticed I get a second key every now and then I just assumed it was random
errant bramble
Took me a whole too
So yeah, do boss Styx rooms first bc if you burn hp you get fountain after and you also clear the best rewards
surreal fog
thats smart i'll start doing that
In my case tho, i've just cleared 2 nonboss rooms and found the fountain
not worth going for more then?
errant bramble
Up to you
surreal fog
Im not too in need, think i'll hit up ||hades||
errant bramble
Just depends how strong you feel or if there’s something you might need
worldly vigil
yeah... if you aren't worried about your health or time go for it
errant bramble
Like I wouldn’t go back for 1 Pom
But maybe for gold that lets you buy a good shop item or whatever
errant bramble
Health I also don’t go back for bc 25 health isn’t worth it at that point? Like if you lose 30’health and get 25 it’s pretty bad lol
surreal fog
was just going to cash in on a couple poms
errant bramble
But 50 health upfront before the fountain is very worth it
Actually, I would go for a Pom if you have like zero Poms up to that point and not many boons. But you get the idea
Bc poms get diminishing returns so the first 1 or 2 are much better than 3+
But anywtas
worldly vigil
okay so for flame wheels, do most people try to kill them or get them to blow themselves up?
errant bramble
Melee I usually use casts or try to blow them up
fluid yoke
depends on your build
errant bramble
^^
fluid yoke
sometimes its easier to blow them up
sometimes its easier to let them
go poof because of you rbuild its too melee
lunar orchid
every time i see them i think of the pokemon move
leaden whale
In my 20th run
lunar orchid
wait... big brain.... hades characters pokemon teams......
surreal fog
some things to prioritise with spending diamonds?
I've got 5 of the guys and curiosity leads me to want to buy the gate, but i've not bought any of the other renovations yet
bar getting ||orpheus||
surreal fog
oh fishing rod as well forgot about that
errant bramble
Gates are fun
surreal fog
skip all the other upgrades level of fun?
errant bramble
The upgrades that affect like darkness and gem gates are probably betters
But less fun
I think I would take the darkness/nectar upgrades
Especially if you’re still actively looking for nectar
fluid yoke
i think || erebus gates ||are a spoiler
errant bramble
Oops
fluid yoke
|| since you can only really get them after heat||
worldly vigil
they also don't become useful until you are at relatively high ||heat||
errant bramble
Oh yeah I forgot you can’t even use them at lower
fluid yoke
you need ||5 heat to use them in tartarus||
surreal fog
Especially if you’re still actively looking for nectar
i've got 7 trinkets left to unlock and 6 nectar in my inventory, does giving someone nectar more than once accomplish anything other?
other than dialogue
I've seen they have multiple hearts but no gift icons so I wasn't sure it was worth
fluid yoke
yes it does
worldly vigil
i've got 7 trinkets left to unlock and 6 nectar in my inventory, does giving som...
there are certain characters that will give you things at high heart levels
fluid yoke
multiple characters give you a further gift for getting relationsghips far
and
you get uh
you kinda need to get multiple people up to a certain relationship point for sidequests
or story things
surreal fog
don't tell me the only thing i've needed to do to get orpheus to start singing is get him wasted on nectar..
errant bramble
Lol
cyan vault
Does it make sense to use the ||pact|| after you finish the first run to finish bounties?
surreal fog
lmao on it
fluid yoke
um
well you should
||get a win normally without it before going pact with the weapon to get like the rewards from a no heat run ||
|| then get bounties from heat||
abstract steeple
I couldn't find an answer before getting distracted by random snacks, do people ...
I never bother, unless it's for a boon I want, but I usually get those first anyways.
abstract steeple
Does it make sense to use the ||pact|| after you finish the first run to finish ...
It does, but I care more for diamonds so I ||up the heat until I gain no benefit from doing so, so if I finish that run I can get more diamonds in my next run. If I ever need blood or ambrosia later (which I'm doubting) i can always go back on lower heats)||
humble ore
Just ||fought Charon for the first time||
He took all my death defiances, almost killed me, and the next chamber killed me
Also who gives you the last keepsake?
I’ve gotten every other one (except the secret ones) and still have no idea where the last one it
patent anvil
||Persephone does but you can't gift nectar to her straight away||
humble ore
Ah ok
cinder cliff
|| isn't it hades' keepsake? ||
stray terrace
||it isnt visible in the keepsake collection until you actually get it||
sleek pond
||I got Persephone's first and then Hades' after I beat him again or something.||
worldly vigil
is poseidon sword one of the aspects that needs to be maxed to be viable?
or does it work well at low level
floral nacelle
It still works well at low level, since it’ll dislodge casts either way
fluid yoke
yeah
cast damage is still good
anyway
extra cast damage always helps a cast build
fresh current
Poseidon is swords one blood wonder
The extra damage is great but being able to get your stones back on command is what makes that aspect really shine
fresh current
Hermes is the biggest force multiplier in the game i swear
Maybe only outclassed by stumbling into ME. The right Hermes boons can send a run through the moon
floral nacelle
Hermes is great for survivability and cast builds
sour coral
Talos Fists and Hera Bow are also good one blood aspects imo
fresh current
One stack of talos is just base fists + GET OVER HERE which I think is a pretty compelling case for 1 blood
But then talos is my favorite weapon so I’m biased
But even without the damage if you get a good fists build rolling talos is just going to compliment it the same way it does with 1 blood as it will with 15. It’s just going to do it faster, and having the GET OVER HERE is a huge QoL improvement
jaunty marsh
is mouse + keyboard or controller the intended way to play?
jaunty marsh
thanks
fluid yoke
i havent tried mouse & keyboard tbh
ocean cosmos
worldly vigil
wow pierced butterfly is better than I realized
just did my first ||9 heat|| run with it and didn't use a single dd
Chiron go brrrrr
waxen basin
This would be better asked in #h1-story-discussion
worldly vigil
are ||fishing|| rewards based on timing?
light grove
yes
pastel cipher
@agile pond ||the Hades fight and heat|| are both considered a spoiler in this channel btw 
please use spoiler tags
agile pond
polar smelt
What do people feel about family favourite vs privileged status, I feel more and more I'm hitting like a million gods but not hitting double status effect that's easily applied (especially running artemis/zeus which don't have natural status and require multiple boons)
polar smelt
Should I do it
how strong are you feeling this run
livid ledge
uh not very so far? Still in just chamber 9 though
old escarp
You could do it to experience it
polar smelt
Well uhhh, take it if you're feeling experimental 
livid ledge
what does it do... so curious but I’ve played Link’s Awakening lol
old escarp
One way to find out 
old escarp
What do people feel about family favourite vs privileged status, I feel more and...
This is a choice I like to make when I have a build in mind, but they're both equally valid. If you want one to just set-and-forget I'd go with Family
polar smelt
I might reroute my mirror and do FF, more and more lately I feel rng being fickle and not giving me key components
sleek axle
i always take FF
polar smelt
Cause you always take artemis keepsake :p
polar smelt
sleek axle
i aint do that fam
polar smelt
Are you uhh, richer or chilling in the house now?
sleek axle
artemis finds me
sleek axle
yeah ||charon|| is an experience
polar smelt
Oooh yeah he do be SPOOKY
livid ledge
but seems doable
polar smelt
||I lost all 3 dds using arthur, but got him||
languid badge
Dash mash is the way to go 
livid ledge
Need to figure out if he has a tell to all his moves
was on fists so a bit reckless of me
old escarp
For what it's worth, every foe in Hades has a telegraph on their attacks 
abstract steeple
What do people feel about family favourite vs privileged status, I feel more and...
Privileged Status is both a higher percentage and easier to achieve. Plus, focusing on 1-3 gods is actually more beneficial for most builds.
languid badge
Fortunately I had a good offensive build the first time I faced him . Even then lost 1 ||DD||
livid ledge
Should i trade ambrosia for blood? Is it super hard to come by?
uncut bronze
personally I don't do that trade
uneven ledge
you should trade some ambrosia for titan blood if you think it's necessary
i'd make sure not to give away too much ambrosia, you'll still need it later
livid ledge
heh something weird with my RNG
Trial of the Gods with Dion/Pos
Next room: Dion or Pos
north quail
i had 4 zeus boons in a row (last one being charon's shop)
leaden whale
Damn ||hades||
I reached the last bossfight again, this time with Aegis. and with more, better boons (though they were not focused on something, like stray punches, if yall know what i mean)
And i played even better this time but...
The shield is terrible for the last bossfight.
faint jewel
I mean, you can block him for days with shield though.
north quail
shield is epic for the last bossfight
polar smelt
It's just a different playstyle
with the shield, I recommend always trading 1:1, block his hit, hit him once, rinse and repeat
north quail
||you can block lasers, block his boiling blood thing while attacking hades with your bull rush and special (cast maybe)||
polar smelt
is it slow? yes, will you die? no
it's super effective if you're running the zeus ares duo boon with revenge boons
north quail
good tip is to use ares cast
it can keep hitting boss while you are blocking ||his lasers||
or zeus aspect for the same reason
odd monolith
|| What should I do for Zag to learn playing the Lyre? Should I just spam E over and over? ||
I need that Ambrosia
lunar orchid
||you need to talk to orpheus about it at least once, and after that over time he'll improve||
odd monolith
|| Does doing clears will improve it somehow? I talked with him twice and gave me pointers about it ||
stray terrace
just getting dialogue in general
i dont think you necessarily need to ||clear|| for better dialogue
polar smelt
||from what I've heard it's an obscene amount of uses so I'd just spam it a few times between runs||
leaden whale
You see, ||his death jars killed me||
I did not know they deal infinite damage
I had the ||lucky tooth|| as my keepsake as well, but it could not help.
leaden whale
or zeus aspect for the same reason
Ha, i had the Zeus aspect for Aegis. Such a real shame...
north quail
use an accorn
leaden whale
Hopeless against the undead jars...
With ||Exagryph||, i used to shoot them from a safe distance.
Tsch,
uneven ledge
you can also get divine dash and just destroy them while getting out of their range fast enough
hollow dust
I am very big broin
sleek axle
Big raven
humble sierra
Hi everyone, hope you're having a great day
uneven ledge
or evening?
dapper trail
Who is the best person to gift something to
humble sierra
Or evening yes
humble sierra
Who is the best person to gift something to
To yo best doggo
dapper trail
Really? Can you gift to cerebrus
If that's the case, hades would be the best game of all time
humble sierra
Yes you can therefore yes it is
uneven ledge
it gives you more max hp
fluid yoke
its not as good as some others for bosses
uneven ledge
i'd also recommend going with hypnos and skelly
uneven ledge
skelly's keepsake is really good for beginners because it just gives you another dd
humble sierra
its not as good as some others for bosses
True, tho it really helped me as a beginner
dapper trail
skelly's keepsake is really good for beginners because it just gives you another...
dd?
fluid yoke
yeah its useful for begienrnrs
uneven ledge
death defiance
dapper trail
death defiance
That's pretty good
sleek axle
Yeah it's pretty good if you're scared of losing dd's
uneven ledge
the gods' keepsakes are also good if you're going for a particular build
fluid yoke
the acorn is also a good
beginners thing
if youre struggling with the bosses
gives you free hits on the final boss of each region
3 at lvl 1 5 at lvl 3
you get it from eurydice
uneven ledge
they don't seem that great at first and to be honest they're really not the right choice for beginners unless you know how to make up builds, in which case they're super helpful
sleek axle
It's 7 for level 3 no
fluid yoke
nope acorn is 5
uneven ledge
if you get hit often then the spearpoint is better though it's not nearly as easily accessible as the acorn
humble sierra
Do you guys have favorite boons to go for when using the last weapon ? (I dunno how to spoil words here my bad)
sleek axle
Put || at the beginning and end of a word or sentence you want to spoiler
|| hello ||
sleek axle
Also my favourite ||rail|| boon is probably zeus attack
humble sierra
Nice thank you i'll try it out
valid holly
Got 6 titan bloods from clearing first boss, which aspect to buy first? Dump all 6 into 1 weap? Spread them out?
Still farming for basic mirror upgrades and havent cleared 3rd boss, always seem to run out of gas around that area.
errant bramble
The only zag aspects worth investing in are fists and maybe shield.
Otherwise what weapon do you like
uneven ledge
keep in mind the other aspects costs 15-16 titan blood to max out
zag aspects take only 5 so i'd recommend fists, that is if you actually like the fists though
valid holly
Ive been using whatever gives dark boost so not really sure which one i like more. Plus boom and door ive been selecting has been for farming in mind. Or whichever i might need to check off the quest list.
Boon**
So i havent really tried a run where my options i select was to try and clear game
errant bramble
I would say not to spread them out. Focus on one at a time roughly
Bc most of them get a lot better the more you level
valid holly
Thats what i was thinking, but since i only have 6, which one has more bang for my buck (or titan blood)
errant bramble
Whichever you use more 🙂
Lol
Poseidon sword is pretty cool on even 1 or 2 levels and it changes play styles
Talos fist is fun
Eris Rail is one of the better ones period
All the bow aspects are really fun imo
valid holly
Chiron level 3 is good? Or chiron doesnt shine until max?
valid holly
Does going from 4 to 6 shots make a big difference?
Asking coz i can get some other aspect that cost more if they will be stronger on base level.
errant bramble
It’s 50% more shots.
4*1.50 = 6
(The answer is you’ll get more Titan blood and it’s a video game so do whatever you want)
valid holly
So theres really no outright better or should i say stronger weap comparing them all at base levels?
errant bramble
Aside from Zagreus aspects, the only aspect no one really plays is...maybe Hades spear?
Everything is playable and does fine
Including hades
valid holly
Indont have a fave aspect, but i do lnow that i struggle using the rail gun and shield. So that limits my options down to 4. Lol
analog sparrow
Nah you struggled with the basic rail gun and shield so that limits ur options to 22.
errant bramble
Haha
analog sparrow
I used to hate spear but ||Guan Yu|| is amazing
fluid yoke
(need to spoiler that name)
errant bramble
Yeah I only play GY if I do spear agree
valid holly
Nah you struggled with the basic rail gun and shield so that limits ur options t...
Damn you right about that!
humble sierra
Damn ||Zeus attack on rail|| is si fun you were right
hot nebula
@hollow dust If you really want to finish this run then no
If you are willing to take the risk of dying go ahead
floral nacelle
No, but his hits are very chunky
uneven ledge
easy to avoid though at least
hollow dust
I'll try it someday
fresh current
So for that fight
On one hand it is more challenging on than the final boss
On the other hand, If you lose 3 DDs but win that fight, it’s generally worth it
Any price that isn’t death is usually worth it for the reward of that fight
So balance that in your head as you will
rough wren
hello I just started playing on friday, been super addicted, is there any aspects worth trying out first?
Also if I got every gemstone upgrade in the main tab should i start trading them in?
hollow dust
Do I need to unlock and be able to use Guan yu or just have it to unlock?
floral nacelle
Just unlock for the other hidden aspects to show
hollow dust
Ok then can I go get another aspect?
leaden whale
hi
fresh current
Hello sampai, which weapons do you like?
muted latch
Do I need to unlock and be able to use Guan yu or just have it to unlock?
Just have it show up, don't need to spend blood
muted latch
Also if I got every gemstone upgrade in the main tab should i start trading them...
||the lounge tab is something you want to do next for other reasons||
long moss
I just watched a twitch streamer play this (MrMightyMouse) and now I just asked a family friend if they would be willing to buy the game for me, and they are, and I am gonna play the game after they buy it for me on steam within the next hour or so
worldly flicker
hey any tips on beating meg for the first time? I've lost to her about 15 times now
i mainly use the spear and shield
uneven ledge
use the shield block whenever you can
you can block any damage from the front while charging the bull rush
wooden trench
Yeah, and it allows you to charge against her afterwards, if you're not sure tho, I'd recommend dashing. also, get the second dash upgrade from the mirror
uneven ledge
you can't block aoe damage with the shield like the circles that meg uses when in her idk, second phase?
wooden trench
yeah
worldly flicker
use the shield block whenever you can
is that one of the deflect boons? (whatever those upgrades the gods give u)
uneven ledge
is that one of the deflect boons? (whatever those upgrades the gods give u)
you can hold attack with the shield to block attacks and charge your bull rush
worldly flicker
oh that
i'll try to use that more then ^_^
my main downfall would have to be the dang traps
errant bramble
I’d love to give you some super secret trap advice but just avoid them. Practice it and it will get better
sterile carbon
my main downfall would have to be the dang traps
same man... somehow i eventually figured out how to mostly avoid them
ivory ocean
for me beating meg was a lot of dashing with intent. so fading but being very aware of the traps. also getting really far away when she does her projectiles because they're a lot more spread out and easier to dodge
cunning granite
I just did my first under 20 min clear!! On ||heat 7|| too!
My average time is usually 30-40 min
humble sierra
broseidon is more fun
You mean on ||rail|| ?
ivory ocean
I just did my first under 20 min clear!! On ||heat 7|| too!
congrats!
cunning granite
I did it with fists
Thanks!! The timer said 19:59:10 so it was super super close
fresh current
@worldly flicker What mirror upgrades do you have unlocked and online? Specifically, how many Death Defiance charges do you have, and do you have a double dash?
This goes for any boss, but if you're really struggling with Meg i suggest this: Instead of trying to fight and kill her, set yourself a goal of surviving in the ring with her for a set amount of time while not focusing on hitting her
This sounds counterintuitive, but i promise you the reason you're struggling is because you're taking too much damage, which means you're getting hit too much. Killing the boss likely isn't your problem, getting killed by the boss is
Rule #1 of this game, like all roguelikes, is Don't Get Hit
So step into the ring like you're a matador, and teach yourself how to dodge her first. She has set attack patterns, and i promise you will learn to pick up on them and exploit them in time. The first thing you need to do though is learn them, and it's much easier to figure them out when your mind isn't actively focused on trying to kill her. Being a pacifist and playing purely to survive in the ring will let you observe her and study much more easily
Once you can dodge her, you can hit her. Actual killing power is rarely an issue in this game, most difficulties come from taking too many hits and dying too quickly.
wooden trench
^ could not have given a better advice
fresh current
To that end, the real tools you need to do this are DD charges and your double dash. If you havent unlocked those yet get the dash priority #1 and then 2 DD charges. You can bandaid the 3rd with skelly tooth and that will be a great solution until you can afford something better. Extra base health as a mirror upgrade is where i would go next, but the DD charges and double dash are things i consider essential first upgrades for even the newest player. Get those, and then prepare to sharpen thyself.
stray terrace
you can't block aoe damage with the shield like the circles that meg uses when i...
you can block the bone hydra aoe stone rain attack with shield though
im not sure if all aoes cant be blocked
reef shoal
Do god keepsakes work on subsequent areas? Like if you equip one for Tartarus and keep it for Asphodel, does it keep working?
sly vigil
The rarity chance works
But the guaranteed to see boon from that God doesn't if you already see it in the previous biome, which you should.
reef shoal
I'm trying to get a duo boon, so should I equip the other god's keepsake instead?
or go for another midrun keepsake?
sly vigil
yeah take the other god's keepsake
reef shoal
ok thanks
rough wren
is there a fun good build for poseidon sword
sly vigil
Lightning Phalanx build is fun
reef shoal
Lightning rod or mirage shot?
reef shoal
no chiron
I already went with lightning rod and completed the run
next is a aspect of poseidon cast build run
Should I start with artemis keepsake?
will it help me get exit wounds easier?
fluid yoke
just used lightning phalanx
yeah
go artmeis
deadly attacks never hurt on sword
and you can get exit wounds
easier
fresh current
exit wounds is the super double secret to really get the most out of posiedon sword
I would go out of my way to find that if i was playing with Cast Sword FWIW
sage harness
I have a question about how bounties work within ||the pact|| I thought that everytime you raised up your heat level for a weapon the bounties would reset? I was thinking that was how I would farm titan blood... just keep raising up the heat level on a weapon and doing runs. If that's not how it works I'm just not sure how I will be getting Titan blood? It seems like you need a lot in order to get the best out of the weapons.
polar smelt
That's exactly how it works 
also the ||pact/spoiler|| is a spoiler in this channel (anything from the end boss onwards)
||Up to 20 heat, after that you'll have to learn a new weapon ||
sage harness
Shoot. Sorry about that. How do I add a word as a spoiler?
polar smelt
you can edit your post and type the words in ||spoiler|| or highlight them and click the little eye icon on the right hand side
but yeah most weapons are kings when maxed out with a few exceptions where it's already insanely good from the get-go, 4th aspect sword is a good example of that 
sage harness
OK thanks so much!
polar smelt
have fun
lunar orchid
I have a question about how bounties work within ||the pact|| I thought that eve...
||yeah but you have to clear a run at a heat level to get new rewards from the next one||
long moss
I am choosing to start with hell mode
what does this actually change?
sleek axle
||you start with the pact of punishment immediately||
polar smelt
||and there's 5 pacts which are automatically enabled||
it also disables access to god mode
long moss
||what is the pact of punishment?||
long moss
it also disables access to god mode
understandable
lunar orchid
||traditional supergiant Make Things Harder In Specific Ways||
polar smelt
||increases the difficulty of the game through modifiers, eg: you heal less, enemies have bonus abilities, bosses have bonuses, more enemies, etc||
long moss
god mode is the inverse to hell mode
||and when do you normally obtain the pact of punishment?||
sly vigil
After your first successful attempt.
polar smelt
||after your first final boss kill, but you're not forced to put punishments, like you are in hell mode||
sly vigil
yeah Hell Mode and Normal Mode are not very different.
polar smelt
Hell mode begins with ||20% bonus dmg against you, healing is 25% less effective, 20% bonus enemies, Enemies have 15% more hp, removes your I-frames||
so I'd strongly recommend just playing normally and enabling ||pact punishments|| yourself
but that's me 
long moss
||REMOVES I FRAMES?||
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A MAJOR DIFFERENCE TO ME
polar smelt
long moss
||I frames are essential in some games lol||
polar smelt
I live for them personally, cause I suck at intentionally dodging
long moss
||when would I have had I frames otherwise if I didn't choose hell mode?||
polar smelt
There's an iframe with dashing which you keep, but you lose ||iframe that you'd normally gain if you take too much damage in a short period||
long moss
There's an iframe with dashing which you keep, but you lose ||iframe that you'd...
||well those i frames that you loose are def not the kind that are essential. The ones I keep are more like the essential I frames||
||like how DS3 has I frames when you roll||
polar smelt
indeed, but it's up to you
long moss
||I frames from having recently taken damage are sorta lame
there are some items in games that specifically add/remove those kinds of I frames
like a certain item in terraria adds I frames after taking damage||
ofc that's just my opinion though, that it's lame
also I am surprised that the game doesn't start with a controls tutorial
like I was able to do without it, but like I looked at the controls, intentionally didn't analyze the controls of the stuff I didn't know what it meant, cuz I thought "the game will teach me this, I don't need to teach it to myself"
LOL I WAS WRONG
so that first fight I only ended up using left and right click, when I could have dashed and special'd. Now I knew to analyze the controls though
and now I know dash is space (though that is sorta obvious since it is a move at all) and special is q
idk what call does yet though
or some other things either
polar smelt
when you pick up a weapon you'll get a mini tutorial with skelly
long moss
oh I can't post screenies ;-;
well
imagine I took a screenie of the top of the boon menu
cuz it literally describes what ||hell mode|| gives me
what is the ||skull with a 5 next to it|| at the left of the top of the boon screen thing mean?
sleek axle
||how much heat you have||
long moss
and what are the ||purple|| things I got from the ||2nd|| room?
long moss
what is ||heat and darkness?||
sleek axle
among other things
polar smelt
pine you've really thrown yourself into the deep end
long moss
||or I guess just heat||
sleek axle
||heat makes the game more difficult by adding stuff (enemies have more health, do more damage, etc.)||
long moss
I play games with a wiki on my first run
I don't really care about playing blind
like stardew valley for example
that game is a prime example of a game that plays WAY differently if you're the kind of player that starts off with the wiki open or not
the wiki can be so useful for stardew
floral nacelle
Good thing ConcernedApe made some QoL improvements in the patches since
Like character's likes and dislikes
You had to wiki that in 1.3
long moss
or you could try everything
and last time I played, like a few months ago, character likes and dislikes were not shown ingame
but ofc you can still play just fine without the wiki
but you have to learn some things manually
like the profit rate of items
while with the wiki you can just choose the most profitable items season 1
polar smelt
just a reminder this is hades related channel
long moss
sorry
probably was the last mentioning of stardew that was gonna happen anyways though :P
nice thing about playing with the discord instead of wiki though, I only learn what directly piques my interest
if I don't have reason to ask about it, I DEFINITELY won't learn about it
while with a wiki I might go from one page to another cuz the title of a link piques my interest, and I would learn more than necessary that way
nocturne vault
what does piercing mean
long moss
that the fact it hit an enemy doesn't rid of the projectile
I don't know this game and I was able to assume that
sly vigil
what does piercing mean
it means exactly what you think i means
the shot isn't blocked by anything, shield included
well i guess except terrain
long moss
a piercing attack will have the potential to hit multiple enemies, while an attack that doesn't pierce will get absorbed by the first enemy it hits
also lol
||halfway through the first room I didn't take any damage
then I started to take damage
and now at the end of the 2nd room I have only 32% of my health||
also I was introduced to this game via a streamer playing it during a 24 hour stream, so I already know that this door contains a ||pom(egranate) of power, which references the fact that the pomegranate is a fruit that a certain god or demigod or whatever ate that had her trapped in the underworld during fall and winter, which caused seasons cuz her mother mourned her being in the underworld||
yk mfg after learning some norse mythology, I miss the fact that in norse the underworld is just hel(heim), while in greek mythology the underworld resembles nothing like the christian term for the underworld; hell
lol I just finished this last room with only 2 health
I'm gonna die instantly at some point in the next room
||I definitely see that lmb attacks having deflect is sorta useless when not many projectiles are there
so I am only getting half the benefit of the first athena boon I got
while if I chose one of the other two I would have gotten more use out of the deflect, instead of just the damage increase||
||oh lol
and because I only have 1 boon so far
the pom literally only allows me to upgrade that, my lmb attack||
polar smelt
You don't need to spoiler any of that btw
rough wren
is hera fine to use at level 1?
polar smelt
only stuff about the end-boss and onwards
sleek axle
is hera fine to use at level 1?
yeah its fine
polar smelt
I don't know much about hera but a quick discord search suggests it's fine
sleek axle
try to get the hermes boon tho
long moss
what are keys? I just got my first pick of what room I go to next (unless I am blind) between key and darkness
and I don't know what keys do yet so IDK what I wanna do
polar smelt
keys are used to unlock more of the mirror & the other weapons
long moss
so both equally something that I know nothing about
sounds like key is more useful permanently then?
sly vigil
you will need a decent amount of both early. honestly I don't think it matters which one you pick that early in the game
polar smelt
^
sly vigil
just roll a dice?
long moss
I did already get some darkness
polar smelt
flip a coin
long moss
so I'll take the key
sly vigil
yee
long moss
I don't need randomness to decide for me lol
if it doesn't matter which I choose I'm just gonna choose one, not let rng do it for me lol
polar smelt
I live for rng
do I take the pom or the charon shop for a chance of the god boon I want..... CHARON
long moss
lets see how long I suvive on literally 2 health
so I died immediately
because I knew that my lmb did deflect
and so I was like "lol why would I even need to try to dodge tbh"
and uhm
the attacks were melee from the guy
and apparently deflect only affects ranged attacks
so I died instantly lol
yk the pool you spawn in reminds me of part of DS3
specifically the cathedral of the deep
wait
the game calls it hell?
I thought greek underworld was only called the underworld, never hell?
is there any benefit to spending ||heat||, other than increased difficulty?
sly vigil
you get more stuff the higher you go, up to a certain point, essentially
long moss
||oh it isn't that I have 5 heat to spend, it's that I am already at 5 heat from hell mode||
sly vigil
oh then you don't get anything.
long moss
||though I can add more for no benefit, since 5 already unlocks a bounty||
sly vigil
well starting on Hell Mode is brave. but good luck.
otherwise, ||heat|| is meant to be done incrementally. going above what's asked doesn't do much.
long moss
the fact I am not forced to have 5 ||heat|| of any kind, it has to be those specific options, is a bit surprising to me
sly vigil
well swap to normal mode and you can do that
Normal Mode and Hell Mode aren't very different
But imo Normal Mode is more conducive for learning
long moss
||cursed slash, which causes me to have 40% of my max health, but every attack heals 2 health now per hit, is worth it, right?||
long moss
cuz it isn't guaranteed I will have it each run? or is there a larger reason to not rely on it?
sly vigil
Both
long moss
what is the larger reason?
long moss
only because other things are better, or is it actually bad for some reasons?
earnest lotus
is aspect of chiron any good? it seems really good
sly vigil
only because other things are better, or is it actually bad for some reasons?
It doesn't do much for you later in the game
But early on, it carried a lot of people to victory
So just take it
long moss
cuz enemies deal large amounts of damage later, and 2 heal is not at all helpful towards the end?
sly vigil
Essentially
And by the end I mean end game not end run
With more difficulty modifier and stuff
long moss
oh so it is useful for the whole of first runs
sly vigil
Yeah
long moss
I can imagine why, cuz constantly healing 2, no matter how much health you have, long as you have two hits worth of max health minimum, is op af cuz it can save you from death constantly
long as it is an actual amount of health increase
fresh current
Yeah take cursed slash when new
Not because its good, but because it’s S-tier fun
Particularly good with zag shield of course
But as difficulty begins to truly ramp you don’t actually have time anymore to be doing regular sword swings with any consistency
So it falls off. Game gets too chaotic for it to keep up and justify the health lost
sly vigil
Well more experienced sword runs will rarely even get the healing from Cursed Slash because it doesn't work on Dash Strike
errant bramble
Drugs are bad.
sly vigil
I think they meant Sword. And yes drugs are bad.
long moss
when there are multiple options for exits, are they always close to eachother? or might you have to search for them sometimes?
stray terrace
theyre typically pretty close
polar smelt
with the exception of chaos/ ||erebus|| portals, they can be anywhere
long moss
so is there any reason to attack at all during a survival room?
cuz dodging provides I frames
so just spaming space sounds like the best idea
cuz more enemies spawn to replace any you kill, right?
ofc with cursed slash if I took damage then I should attack just to heal, but otherwise no right?
polar smelt
enemies occasionally drop coins (or obols/whatever) on death
so you could kill the enemies to benefit next time you visit charon
polar smelt
can't see why not,
i'll also note that the enemies spawned from trove chests are the exception and don't drop obols
floral nacelle
I think they stop dropping obols at a certain point
But it’s still good to kill them for the obols
sleek pond
If you kill the enemies fast enough they won't be able to attack before they're forced into a 2 second respawn animation
polar smelt
I think they stop dropping obols at a certain point
if this is the case I have no knowledge of it
worldly vigil
is it better to go for artemis or aphro on special with ||guan yu|| special build
worldly vigil
The five extra one at the bottom
I'm not sure what you mean
worldly vigil
ahh
karmic tangle
I only have one I can use
worldly vigil
they are gotten from certain characters once you reach a high bond level with them
long moss
what does a door with a bag with an ear looking thing lead to? a store? gold?
worldly vigil
aka give them a lot of nectar
worldly vigil
what does a door with a bag with an ear looking thing lead to? a store? gold?
I believe it is a store
karmic tangle
I’ve already beaten the game with the rocket launcher
worldly vigil
there isn't really a "best" anything in this game
leaden whale
there's no best weapon just use what u like
long moss
||rocket launcher???||
karmic tangle
Ok because I can’t stay alive with anything else
leaden whale
final weapon u unlock pinecone
long moss
I find the bow's main attack to be better than the sword's
but those are the only two weps I have
karmic tangle
First one?
karmic tangle
Oh ok
leaden whale
for sword just spam dash attack
worldly vigil
called "aspect of chaos"
karmic tangle
Still got awhile for the hearts
long moss
rooms that provide two things are always better than a different room right?
stray terrace
wdym
long moss
when a room provides two different rewards instead of just one
worldly vigil
trial rooms? they are nice, but if you are going to take too much damage from them, not worth imo
long moss
what does Ares and Poseidon do if I don't pick each of them; which is better to pick first?
stray terrace
whichever one you dont want to anger you pick
long moss
what is the benefit of not angering them?
worldly vigil
I don't believe there is one, but I could be wrong
fresh current
Some are a lot more of a PITA to deal with than others
When angered
Shoutouts to Ares IIRC
long moss
what does Ares and Poseidon do if I don't pick each of them; which is better to ...
then "
long moss
what about poseiden vs ares?
fresh current
Poseidon is easy
Easier*
Watch and look closely for his wave
That will follow you and attack you
long moss
ok I'll go poseiden then
fresh current
Priority #1 is dodging it
long moss
ok
fresh current
Kill the rest of the room while you keep your eye on the wave
long moss
so wait, I pick the one I don't want to anger, so I pick ares first?
fresh current
Yes
Please ares by taking his boon first
Olympians are jealous catty little you-know-what’s
long moss
oh I know
fresh current
And being rejected like this will get them all in a huff
long moss
they're also the laziest entities of existance
fresh current
I’m talking about, uh, Greek lore 😅
long moss
all the gods in general are lazy
including zeus
none of the gods do any of the dirty work
the only dirty work they do is mate with mortals to give birth to demigods to do dirty work for them
the only example of something that is the opposite of that is zeus killing his dad
cuz titans are evil
but after killing his dad from within his... stomach? he doesn't do anything else with his own hands
dude I almost died to poseidon's wave
is sunken treasure a bad or good poseidon boon?
leme remind you I have 21/100 health
stray terrace
you aint getting far regardless but sunken treasure is fine
long moss
will sunken treasure have any useful chance of providing me with a useful amount of health?
karmic tangle
Until I unlock the locked passives which is the most beneficial
broken edge
So...I am almost 200 runs in and I still have not beaten the final boss 1 time. Do I just suck or what?
karmic tangle
Any good mirror of reflection guides? Updated
karmic tangle
So...I am almost 200 runs in and I still have not beaten the final boss 1 time. ...
Turn on go’s mode
God
dapper steppe
is there any other use for keys other than unlocking darkness skill?
stray terrace
will sunken treasure have any useful chance of providing me with a useful amount...
like 10-30
karmic tangle
Boons
stray terrace
is there any other use for keys other than unlocking darkness skill?
mirror/weapons/trading are all the useful purposes
long moss
Kappa