#h1-for-new-players

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fluid yoke
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just scroll up far enough and you'll see it h

reef bough
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Just confused on progression I'm at my 3rd clear right now

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If I just keep clearing would the game start progressing?

worldly vigil
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yes 🙂

reef bough
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Story-wise like locked hearts, or game-wise like locked weapons

worldly vigil
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||story||

reef bough
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Cool cool thanks

uneven ledge
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do it 7 more times and something cool will happen

polar smelt
dull marten
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just made it out of asphodel with 3 health B)

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yeah i’m a gamer

polar smelt
dull marten
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hehe thanks

uneven ledge
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3 health > 0 health

dull marten
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i switched back to the sword and i’m surprised i got meg with it

worldly vigil
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Can anyone else get the chamber names confused lol

dull marten
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i think i had some pretty good boons so that was part of it

worldly vigil
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I know elysium, but I always forget the other two lol

polar smelt
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tartarus, asphodel

muted latch
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the area name is shown in big font upon arrival

uneven ledge
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T A R T A R U S

worldly vigil
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I very well should know after around 60 hours...

polar smelt
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What I don't get is why Zag sometimes says "the meadows of asphodel" KEKW

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MATE ITS PURE LAVA

fluid yoke
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well it was a meadow

muted latch
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because in the original mythology it is indeed a meadow

polar smelt
uneven ledge
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i gotta start looking up asphodel in greek mythology

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like what in the actual hell do you mean this place was lush and green at some point

worldly vigil
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apparently it's a flower

muted latch
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because the lava is actually Phlegethon River

tranquil escarp
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Officially obsessed with dash-striking. Made my fourth win against the final boss!

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Now I am trying to figure out if I should ||dump all six of my Titan Blood onto my weapon. XD||

sly vigil
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You can test out weapon

tranquil escarp
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Oh yeah. Apply and then quit if you don't like it, right?

sly vigil
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Exactly

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Just make sure you don't walk back to the bedroom and accidentally save the game.

polar smelt
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"give up" but yes, just make sure you don't go- nvm

tranquil escarp
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I already have ||Aspect of Zagreus|| for the sword. I would just apply more Titan's Blood.

polar smelt
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If you like dash striking with Zag sword, no reason not to pump it in

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it's only 5 blood to max

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literally just makes you stronger POGGERS

tranquil escarp
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Oh. Neat.

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There we go.

polar smelt
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also don't need to spoiler for the 3 main aspects, only the 4th/hidden one which is ???

dry wraith
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Zag Sword is fun if you have a need for speed

tranquil escarp
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That's fair. I realized that you can still access the weapon upgrades without defeating the final boss.

polar smelt
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I never figured out the other swords tbh

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only hidden aspect

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I was never great at dash striking

tranquil escarp
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I love it lol.

polar smelt
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hidden aspect go FWOOSH

tranquil escarp
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Everything dies so fast.

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Lightning Bolt + Jolt is good.

polar smelt
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that it is

sly vigil
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Zag sword: goes brrr
Poseidon: cast goes brrr
Nemesis: crit goes brrr

tranquil escarp
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Sometimes I go with hangover as well.

polar smelt
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I might try again with nemesis at some stage, just spamming dash strikes with artemis or something

tranquil escarp
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I like Demeter Cast. That is what won my last few runs.

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I like the Poseidon Call a lot.

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Sometimes I like runs with lots of dodge and damage reduction, too. XD

polar smelt
tranquil escarp
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All sorts of fun goodies depending on what the game gives me.

polar smelt
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that's... fair

tranquil escarp
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You might not want to dislodge the casts if you get the damage buff though.

sly vigil
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:D :D :D

dry wraith
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Also gives you a cast buff

polar smelt
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it's literally just spam cast then special and rinse and repeat?

sly vigil
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Yeah lol

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Try Lightning Phalanx with it

polar smelt
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feels... weird, I might have to look up youtube videos of it

sly vigil
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It's good fun.

dry wraith
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Also Artemis loves P Sword

tranquil escarp
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I want to go for another Hades run but it's so late for me. XD

polar smelt
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5pm for me, bout to finish work

tranquil escarp
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I really want my Switch to tell me how much time I've put into this game.

dry wraith
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Its never too late for Hades. It’s my bedtime ritual zaglol

tranquil escarp
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It's only been five days.

sly vigil
tranquil escarp
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My boyfriend and I got it on the same day and Steam says he has over 50 hours already.

sly vigil
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Neato

dull marten
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wahooo i made it to elysium and then got my ass kicked by the minotaur

muted latch
crimson bramble
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same (except styx, I got obliterated at the boss instead of the normal rooms lol)

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y'all I got my first clear and it was completely unexpected

polar smelt
ivory ocean
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congrats!

crimson bramble
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"eh let's practice with my worst weapon, the fists, see if I can at least slay the hydra with it for the first time" beats the whole game

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thanks ^_^

sly vigil
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Yay

polar smelt
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new favourite weapon confirmed? akek

sly vigil
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I think you posted one or two days back right?

polar smelt
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I've owned the game for 12 days and have 94 attempts, god help me KEKW

crimson bramble
crimson bramble
sly vigil
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Well you made it

crimson bramble
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lol I finally did

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now just gotta keep doing it

polar smelt
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I got darkness bonus on sword let's gooooo fun run time

crimson bramble
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hope the Fates are as permissive in the future

crimson bramble
polar smelt
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me: 60+ clears
zag: picks up titan blood
zag: this can unlock aspects with my infernal arms

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yeah I think I know by now mate

uneven ledge
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why do your weapons shudder when you pick up titan blood

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like do they not wanna become stronger?

polar smelt
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I mean you could shudder in anticipation

sly vigil
uneven ledge
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well too bad

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i'm maxing out all the zag aspects and they're not stopping me

polar smelt
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ahhh it's beautiful

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finally maxed one side KEKW

uneven ledge
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why do rerolls cost so goddamn much

vivid patio
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they used to cost more haha

uneven ledge
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i could be doing normal runs to farm darkness but at the same time i want that titan blood

vivid patio
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during early access they were basically the last thing you could spend darkness on, so they were a bit of a resource sink. but the cost to upgrade them is greatly lowered because something else took its place as resource sink

pastel cipher
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they used to cost 10's of thousands of darkness to max out during early access

fleet cape
drowsy plover
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I used my titan blood to max ||Guan Yu||, hopefully it's easier to use now shadegrief

uneven ledge
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what else should i spend my titan blood on? i've maxed chiron, chaos and hidden spear

sleek axle
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Eris rail

drowsy plover
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Yep

sleek axle
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Nemesis/poseidon too

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Depends which one you prefer

polar smelt
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HIDDEN

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SWORD

drowsy plover
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And Demeter fists

muted latch
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both rail and both fists

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hidden bow and hidden shield are also mega

uneven ledge
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hestia seems nice

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eris just seems kinda... boring really

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unless i can stack it with triple bomb or something

muted latch
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hestia has a higher ceiling

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but is input demanding

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you need to get used to the reload-shoot rhythm

uneven ledge
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aphro is best for hestia right?

muted latch
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either that or artemis

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artemis attack + aphro special, get heart rend

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go for the 1.5k crits

polar smelt
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Still don't know how I feel about hestia

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single bullet being POGGERS

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but have to wait for every reload

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where as eris is

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haha 12 bullets go brr

drowsy plover
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Yeah but you have to stand in the special which I rarely do. Or one time I chose the hazard bomb when I had Eris (needed it for prophecy) shadesmile

uneven ledge
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at this point i'm convinced heart rend is a trap because i NEVER get it even though i always use gods' legacy

dry wraith
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You always make sure to have the prereqs?

polar smelt
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I get it... just sometimes later than I wanted ;c

uneven ledge
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yes i literally check the codex whenever arty or aphro show up

dry wraith
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try rerolling boons whenever you get a high tier reward (skull). They pop up pretty often once you hit reqs. I dont even run gods legacy

uneven ledge
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if i get arty i go for deadly strike then if aphro shows up i go for heartbreak flourish and then they both proceed to show up repeatedly but never give me heart rend

drowsy plover
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Why not? I feel like legacy is better than the other one

leaden whale
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Just saw Meg's sister

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such a savage beast

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murdererrrrrr

dry wraith
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Imo the epic boons popping up more consistently tends to help more from start to finish while legacy only really helps once all reqs are met and even then only by 10%

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and while legendary and duos are amazing, i try not to rely on getting them. Cuz sometimes you just dont.

fleet cape
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such strategy!

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and here i am like hurr durr use skelly's keepsaake if you know you are gonna need extra hp

drowsy plover
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Still using Skelly's keepsake for the final boss

sly vigil
fleet cape
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@drowsy plover Evergreen Acorn FTW

drowsy plover
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I use that for Theseus. For final boss I use tooth because I'm a noob and lose some DDs in the tunnels

fleet cape
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fair

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final boss is harder but less cheap-feeling than theseus

leaden whale
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Why this game is so good.

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polished, fun, and simple (yet confusing) gameplay
And a nice story and lore
With awesome characters

dry wraith
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Cuz Super Giant is amazing zagluv

fresh current
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Tooth is a perfectly acceptable answer for final boss

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It’s still my go-to if a run is belly-scraping on me and I dont trust Styx to deliver a DD for sale

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But tooth acorn and ||patroclus’|| keepsake are all good answers for Styx on. Tooth for general ruggedness, acorn for hades, other one for Styx itself

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Just depends on what you want to cover up

leaden whale
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Well i made it again to that... Elsyuim thing
And met the minotaur in the 33th chamber i guess
RIP

fresh current
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Get used to fighting him

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He’s the fun half of the boss fight lol

leaden whale
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I had shield

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I am a real noob

fresh current
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Ah, you were probably too aggressive then honestly

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I can just picture playing shield against the bull mini boss

leaden whale
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Yup, had a really aggressive and defensive build

fresh current
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You really need to respect asterius’s damage and range

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Take a second and read that sentence again, because I mean it

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He can put you on your ass in no time flat

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But he is only melee

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Stick and weave

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You’ll get used to him

leaden whale
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Yeah after sometimes i came to my senses and decided to just charge my shield, wait for him to attack, and pierce through him while defending

fresh current
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Asterius is honestly probably my favorite boss in the game

leaden whale
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But i lost anyway

fresh current
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Love my thicc bull bro

sly vigil
fresh current
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Game hard

leaden whale
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After all, it was my 11th run

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My 8th run was glorious, really

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My whole... perks and boons were about darkness boosts

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And i only selected routes with darkness

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I think i gathered like 300 darkness in that run lol

fleet cape
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once you feel solid enough that making it to elysium is not A Huge Deal it is worth it to sacrifice a few runs just to study Asterius hit behavior patterns so then you know what is coming generally

fresh current
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Yeah thats not a bad idea

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One run where you might deliberately die just to learn is worth like 10 where you’re button mashing and not really paying attention to what you need to be taking in

fleet cape
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tho also i'm sure there are youtube vids about it but if you are only on run 11 personally iw ould avoid youtube stuff for worry about spoiling what happens later

fresh current
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Also take this time in your noob life as a blessing to slow your pace down and study how things work in this game in general

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You’ll be doing all of this while on the clock pretty soon

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So take this time where your game time is unlimited to slow down and study

fleet cape
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definitely dont focus on escaping for awhile becuase you wont

leaden whale
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I think darkness is really important. I have almost unlocked every first 6 things in the mirror of night and maxed them (except revive's 3th upgrade, needs like 1000darkness 😶 )

fresh current
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Yes

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Use skelly tooth as a bandaid until you get the third

leaden whale
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I prefer to use that... Aphrodite's rose

fresh current
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Most important items early are defensive

leaden whale
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it is on it's third rank

fresh current
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Also bear this in mind

leaden whale
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And Aphrodite has the best boons i have seen so far

fresh current
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The god keepsakes only work once

leaden whale
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Yes, i will change them

fresh current
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As far as forcing that gods boons to actually appear

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You keep the rarity buff if it is equipped

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But forcing the god is a one time charge

dull marten
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i prefer ares or athena boons the most

fresh current
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They are all good, it flows with which weapon you’re using

leaden whale
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I have Just unlocked that... chamber wardrobe thing. It says you can change your accessory outside of house of hades

dull marten
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when your attack inflicts doom...😙👌🏽

leaden whale
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Can't wait to give it a shot

fresh current
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The least useful is arguably Poseidon but even he’s still lord brosiedon

dull marten
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lolol

fresh current
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Yeah

leaden whale
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Poseidon's water attack combined with bows is really good

fresh current
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Now you can change keepsakes every floor

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No its not

leaden whale
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EVERY???

fresh current
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But you’re having fun with it so keep using it and keep learning

leaden whale
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That sounds op

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To change it anywhere you like

fresh current
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For bow you want Aphrodite/ares/Athena/demeter/artemis

sly vigil
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Every floor

fresh current
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Also Dionysus

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Pretty much anyone but Poseidon honestly lol

dull marten
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i thought that remodel allowed you to change keepsakes on each level

leaden whale
fresh current
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But keep having fun 🙂

sly vigil
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So like a couple of times per run.

fresh current
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Keep learning

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3, to be exact

dull marten
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so like once after tartarus and then asphodel and then elysium

fresh current
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Yes

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So now that you have that

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Start with your Aphrodite keepsake if you like

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And switch to skelly tooth later when the going gets rough

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You should only use god boons for one floor generally

uneven ledge
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broseidon on rail 😩 👌

fresh current
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Again, that whole “force god’s boons to appear next” thing only works once

leaden whale
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The game: *Trial of gods! Chose the message of one of them! Who will you chose, **Athena *or Aphrodite?
Me: Why are you asking me seriously?

fresh current
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Per keepsake, per run

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Oh by the way lol

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You’ll quickly learn that some gods are much harder to anger than others in those rooms

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Like uhhhhh zeus

uneven ledge
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i mean i'd take athena because aphrodite's trial is really annoying

fresh current
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Dont piss off zeus lol

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Yeah

uneven ledge
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ares and aphrodite are annoying

fresh current
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So in this case you would pick Aphrodite

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Let’s be clear for them

uneven ledge
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every other god is pretty fun actually

fresh current
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Because Athena is the easier of the two to deal with their punishment

leaden whale
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Yes all of them
Except that... god of wine thing

fresh current
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And you always get both gods boons

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One at the beginning of the room and one at the end

uneven ledge
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aphrodite's heart thing isn't hard to avoid when it's not showing up literally 2 inches away out of goddamn nowhere

fresh current
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Yes Dionysus is a very hard one lol

leaden whale
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I never saw Aphrodite's punishment
And lol i don't want to see

fleet cape
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@leaden whale seriously dont sweat getting super detailed into strategy and optimizing your gameplay at this point. just try a bunch of stuff and have fun with it

leaden whale
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I am having A LOT of fun

fresh current
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It’s all playing and learning

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But yeah

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That’s a protip for you

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If you’re ever in a duo god room

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And you have the chance to piss off Athena

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Always piss off athena

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She is the easiest

uneven ledge
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do it

leaden whale
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Imagine saying no to Aphrodite caz you are afraid of Zeus

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Hey btw i am no SIMP if i like Aphrodite so much 😐

fresh current
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yeah, you’re not afraid enough of the king of the gods yet my boy

uneven ledge
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i'd say zeus isn't that scary

leaden whale
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I saw it once
Posideon vs Zeus
I said no to Zeus
That was not that bad

uneven ledge
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more fun than getting hit by a heart that deal 15 damage 3 times

leaden whale
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Just some lightnings hitting around

fresh current
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Maybe I’m misremembering

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I place Poseidon and aphro in the same class

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Of “can dodge”

sly vigil
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Game is simple. Don't get hit and hit back.

fresh current
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Aphro’s is harder but if you keep your eye on it more than on the combat you can stay ahead of it pretty easy

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Aphros is harder for me because it has less A/V cues

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You have to pay more attention to it

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But Poseidon is pretty easy

leaden whale
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I need keys.
I have only like 6
Need A LOT to unlock that glove and mirror of night's perks

fresh current
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Yup

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Get cracking

uneven ledge
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aphro is just really annoying because the heart could spawn literally on you so it's just instant 15 damage

leaden whale
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I think i should not focus on darkness anymore since i have unlocked ANYTHING in the mirror of night

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Really greedy, i am

fresh current
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Yeah keys first

uneven ledge
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poseidon is easier to avoid because it actually doesn't ever spawn like 2 inches away from you but it sure does hurt more

fresh current
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Tbh

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Keys and gems when you can

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Gems aren’t really worth anything to you directly early on

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But they accelerate your progress

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They are growth accelerators

uneven ledge
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get the keys and unlock all of the weapons and mirror upgrades as soon as you can

fresh current
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So you want as much early on as you can to get some contractor things going

uneven ledge
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after that you can just trade any spare keys for nectar at the broker

leaden whale
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Well gems are somewhat useless
But i bought some nice upgrades with them like urns of coin
Just bought it
Will see them on my next run

fresh current
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Gems help you get more, other resources faster

uneven ledge
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gems are really useful

fresh current
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Yeah

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Gems aren’t immediately useful

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Obviously useful**

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But they are actually very important

leaden whale
uneven ledge
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you can also buy nice house decor later when there's no more underworld renovations to spend gemstones on

fresh current
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Because they accelerate your rate of growth down the path

sly vigil
uneven ledge
leaden whale
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Lounge is open but there is nothing there
Only a chef and sometimes Meggy hangin 'round

fresh current
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Spoiler: you unlock the lounge area where your bae the wretched broker lives

leaden whale
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And that hellhounds far around

fresh current
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And your side piece the head chef

sly vigil
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To the left area there is a fat blob of shade

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Talk to it

uneven ledge
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shouldn't the broker be right there at the bottom right corner?

sly vigil
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Right*

leaden whale
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Seriously

sly vigil
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I meant right

fleet cape
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@fresh current you know why they call it the head chef right

fresh current
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lmaoooooo

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Btw

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Check the broker every time

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Every single time

uneven ledge
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yeah

fresh current
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Most of his inventory is static

uneven ledge
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you can get some great deals from that guy

fresh current
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But the bottom item rotates every run

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^^^^^^^

uneven ledge
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the deals you should NEVER take are ambrosia or titan blood for darkness

fresh current
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Wait what

uneven ledge
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it's not worth it

fresh current
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How much darkness we talking here

uneven ledge
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200-500

fresh current
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Oh well, he’s too early in the run

fleet cape
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generally its a good idea to do every interaction every time IMHO

fresh current
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Yeah thats too much

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Blood should be bought with Charon gold

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Yes @fleet cape

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Push all the buttons all the time

uneven ledge
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i'd say he should actually prioritize saving up as much as possible for charon at the end

fresh current
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Yes absolutely

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But after your first couple clears or so

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At very first you need all the darkness you can get

uneven ledge
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yeah i meant to say shouldn't

fresh current
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Meaning you should be buying darkness in wells and shops

uneven ledge
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because generally that's something you wanna do after the first few clears

fresh current
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If you ever need darkness or gems throughout the game

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Buying darkness and gems in Charon shops is always tremendous value

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Even if it doesn’t look like much

uneven ledge
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chaos and broseidon can also give you boons that literally just increase the gems and darkness you get

fresh current
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Yuppppp those are handy AF

sly vigil
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Dude left to check his broker lol

fresh current
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Lollll

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Once you get to where you can at least make Styx 90% of the time and clear final boss at least 30% of the time its time to switch gears from darkness farming to blood farming for a while

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Which will mean switching your mirror to the green money aspect

uneven ledge
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final boss is a spoiler

fresh current
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Sorry sorry sorry

uneven ledge
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golden touch is overall better than big pockets or whatever it's called

fresh current
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And taking on a holy vow to swear off going to Charon shops until the very last one

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I actually disagree once runs become about performance and not farming

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But for farming taking the % is way, way better

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lol

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What doesn’t the bot like now

uneven ledge
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i like to sometimes go for charon shops mid-biome because there's a chance i can get a loyalty card

fresh current
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Mmhmmmm

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Once you start caring more about how you’re going to perform in a run, rather than what that run’s value could be to you in resources, taking the 100 gold off the bat is the better bet

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But that’s a long, long way down the road

leaden whale
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Oh wait
I just finished ma online class and returned to Hades
It says you have had only 10 escape attempts 😐
So basically i am going to do my 11th rn
Fades in hades

fresh current
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and yeah the ||loyalty card|| is a huge deal if you come across it, esp earlier on

leaden whale
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Uhh wait why i can't upload sceenshots

fresh current
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Try Not To Die This Time 👍🏻

uneven ledge
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that is if you survive

sly vigil
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Post your pic to imgur

fresh current
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It’s a channel specific thing

sly vigil
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And post link here

uneven ledge
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post image in separate discord server > copy link > paste the link here

leaden whale
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Nevermind, just a screenshot of saves

woven eagle
sly vigil
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Laziness

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Which is valid tbh

fresh current
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Because screw discord, thats why

pastel cipher
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@fresh current the ||charon fight and its reward|| are spoilers in this channel as an fyi friendly

woven eagle
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It doesn't even take longer lol

leaden whale
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Says i have had 10 escapes with a total of 1057 darkness
Current location: house of Hades
Last played: 14Jan2021 10:34 AM

fresh current
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Oh I’m sorry 🙈

uneven ledge
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it's faster to just post the image in a personal discord server

uneven ledge
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and then copy the link and send it here

sly vigil
fresh current
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Lol I’m jus playin

leaden whale
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Here we go again
I think i will use the bow for this run

fresh current
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Which ones do you have unlocked

leaden whale
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The first 4 ones as i said

fresh current
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Bow kinda cheeks before you get ||aspects|| unlocked

leaden whale
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The glove is still locked

fresh current
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Have you done much shield?

leaden whale
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Yes,

fresh current
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Like it?

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You should learn to

leaden whale
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Hm-hm. Not bad, not good.

fresh current
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Learn and love it

leaden whale
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I think i have not tried the spear much, and it has the thirst for darkness perk rn

fresh current
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It’s the best new player weapon in the game hands down

leaden whale
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But i will use the bow for now
FUN, you know.

fresh current
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You can take spear if you like

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Spear is very safe with doom

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On special

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Play lame win game

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Especially for your first few runs like this

#

Where you are honestly underpowered

#

Try to find athena attack too if you play spear

leaden whale
#

I just wanna have some fun
But i guess i will pick the spear this time, ok.

fresh current
#

Spear has a huge dash attack hitbox

#

Makes for a very good reflector

#

Play a little safer with the spear

#

It will feel frustrating to be so safe and methodical

#

But the spear isn’t truly powerful yet

uneven ledge
#

it's just me but doom attack on spear does crazy damage

leaden whale
#

That 9th was really good... i had an OP cast based build

fresh current
#

But you can play very cheesy and see very good results early on with doom damage on spear

#

Lol

#

I want to say this sweetly, but you dont have access to truly OP cast builds yet ❤️

#

That said, what was it?

#

Aphro cast?

uneven ledge
#

you don't get access to actually overpowered cast builds until later

#

i saw someone creating a laser lightshow

fresh current
#

It involves both more mirror stuff and unlocking certain weapon aspects

#

For now I would tell you to focus on your attack and special damage

leaden whale
fresh current
#

Your cast is a great tool, but cast builds dont really get introduced until midgame

uneven ledge
#

hmm

leaden whale
#

Ok so i met the Aphrodite on the first chamber
Got the crush shot for the first time
Looks weak
You disappointed me, Aphro

uneven ledge
#

true shot is good but it doesn't make for a cast build really

fresh current
#

The way casts are implemented are a little odd to me TBH. They’re honestly not that great until you really start unlocking some things

#

Yeah what spammy said

uneven ledge
#

best you could do with it is mirage shot and exit wounds

fresh current
#

Arty is good for lots of things

#

But not particularly cast

#

Like hers is good, but not kit-defining like some other casts

uneven ledge
#

i'd say her attack is what really makes up crit builds

fresh current
#

unless you’re really, really hilt deep on a crit meme run

#

I’d day it’s PP and marked target 😉

uneven ledge
#

it's just so good especially if you have the right boons

fresh current
#

Attack is just cherry on top

sly vigil
#

Funnily enough Artemis cast was the go to choice back in the day

fresh current
#

I mean, I get why

uneven ledge
#

i got deadly strike, pp, splitting headache and drunken dash on fists one time

sly vigil
#

Poseidon Sword Artemis cast

fresh current
#

Big number go haha

uneven ledge
#

if i got clean kill and heart rend that would have just been a meme run at that point

fresh current
#

Mmmmmmmm that sounds tasty

#

If only splitting headache wasn’t trash

#

Rip

leaden whale
#

I think crush shot would be a good combination with bow
Knock off and kill any nearby foe instead of running away our charging

uneven ledge
#

literally the most ideal crit build possible since i even already had heartbreak flourish

fresh current
#

Beautiful, beautiful

#

@uneven ledge you do know the catch 22 about Dionysus right?

uneven ledge
#

what

fresh current
#

About not having multiple drunken sources?

#

You only ever want 1 source of drunk

#

Because if you mix them, whichever hit last overrides the existing stacks

#

Which means you could have an attack that ticks for 14

#

But really be dealing 2 damage because your dash overrode the stacks

uneven ledge
#

i thought the damage just kinda stacked

fresh current
#

Dio is great but dont mix your wines up too much. Keep the booze flowing from a single, pure source

#

Nope

#

Overwrites

#

5 potential stacks

uneven ledge
#

if i'm using fists i'd put hangover on either attack or dash

fresh current
#

Overwritten oldest to newest iirc

#

Attack

#

Dash damage trash 😘

#

Next to attack at least

sly vigil
#

Better yet just don't use hangover lol

fresh current
#

Awwww boooo

#

Hangover gud

#

Me talk to Chad god, he make happy juice appear. Big party, everyone have good time and fall down asleep

sleek axle
#

hangover's only good with fast weapons

sly vigil
#

Yeah that's called Trippy Shot

fresh current
#

I would say fast to medium paced

#

Like, rail is too fast for hangover

uneven ledge
#

splitting headache is +1.5% crit chance per stack right?

fresh current
#

Even fists is on the verge

#

Sword and shield are in a nice happy spot for hangover imo

#

fists I like hangover because of bad influence lol

leaden whale
#

Ok ok guyz i just got a Daedalus hammer
Which one i should chose, quick spin, or massive spin, or charged skewer upgrade

#

i think quick spin is fine

#

But massive spin looks temptin

sly vigil
#

What do you have on attack?

#

And special?

fresh current
#

If you like spinning I would say quick

leaden whale
#

Nothing yet.

fresh current
#

More utility than size

leaden whale
#

I just have a cast (crush shot)

fresh current
#

Charged is meh

#

Doesn’t really do good things for regular spear

#

You want your special to be a curse

#

Ares right at the top of the list

sly vigil
#

Do you want to high roll?

leaden whale
#

I think massive is cooler
I have the crush shot+ dislodge of Artemis
Works fine, specially against bosses i assume

fresh current
#

Like, you should really prioritize finding Ares for special on base shield

#

Spear*

sly vigil
#

If you want to high roll, take Charged Skewer

fresh current
#

But shield too

leaden whale
#

I need a good midrange

leaden whale
fresh current
#

Take quick

sly vigil
#

Alright the

fresh current
#

Being able to spin more

#

Will be more useful to you than bigger spins

leaden whale
#

Massive looks more fun... i can punish foes that come really close with crush shot
And more range and damage seems ok

fresh current
#

You want max charge spin faster for both range and damage

sly vigil
#

Do yoy know how to extend your spin?

leaden whale
#

I know.

#

Hold down the left-click

sly vigil
#

No like dash cancel

hollow ledge
#

oh, we talkin' bout spear tactics?

fresh current
#

Ohhhhhh 👀

sly vigil
#

Extend the range

leaden whale
#

Dash cancel?

fresh current
#

Do tell

leaden whale
#

I dunno what dym...

sly vigil
#

So do your spin charge

fresh current
#

I haven’t heard of any spear tech

leaden whale
#

I think i will just pick up the massive spin

fresh current
#

All I know is fists tech lol

sly vigil
#

Instead of releasing your attack, you hit dash instead

fresh current
#

Oooooh go on

polar smelt
#

Forget spear, study the hidden blade

leaden whale
#

You mean like bow when chargin?

sly vigil
#

Your spin will also cover your dash distance

hollow ledge
sly vigil
#

Yeah will just hold left click

leaden whale
#

Like pressing space when charging the spear?

sly vigil
#

Yup

fresh current
#

Oooooooh man ima have to try that with ||hades|| aspect sometime

#

Does that apply to hidden spear?

hollow ledge
fresh current
#

Boy howdy if it does

sly vigil
#

It applies to everything but hidden spear lol

fresh current
#

Biiiiiiiiiisciuts

#

Of course

#

Still

#

I could see that being one hell of a party trick on ||hades|| spear

sly vigil
#

I should make a Hades tech guide lol

fresh current
#

Someone should

sly vigil
fresh current
#

I’m really surprised theres not one in here considering how long the mechanics have been around

#

I wish I could understand some of the finer points of boon room RNG, and how it plays with FA

#

But that;s not really a this room discussion

severe gazelle
#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#

I LITTERLY CHARGED MY BOW ATTACK AND THE FINAL BOSS KILLED ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#

I JUST RELEASED IT AND I DIED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#

I CAN'T BELEIVE THIS

pastel cipher
#

you'll get em next time ^_^

oak egret
uneven ledge
#

lesson learned: explosive shot sucks don't use it

craggy sundial
#

i love the spear

#

with most weapons i go to around asphodel and die there

#

but with spear i have almost beaten elysium

muted latch
#

explosive shot is not worth it

severe gazelle
#

talos seems better than demeter

north quail
#

trial of the gods:
athena or ares?

severe gazelle
#

both

sleek axle
#

def pick ares

severe gazelle
#

get one kill the wave get the other

sleek axle
#

athena is mad easy

north quail
#

k thanks
i just forgot what athena's thing is

#

is that a big shield?

#

like an area of invulnerability

sleek axle
#

ye

north quail
#

ez then

craggy sundial
#

so the enemies hurt themself

uneven ledge
#

wait so when athena applies invulnerability to enemies it also apparently deflects enemy projectiles within the area?

severe gazelle
#

i lost at the final boss again

sleek axle
#

you'll get em eventually\

severe gazelle
#

one more keep sake left

#

i wonder who it is

uneven ledge
#

you don't get that until a tiny little bit later on

signal pine
#

first clear!

#

man that final fight was a lot more stressful than it should have been

sleek axle
#

good job

severe gazelle
signal pine
#

Oops

#

Mb

final tulip
#

the final fight is ||your mom||

uneven ledge
#

uh about that

full depot
#

Final boss is ||deez nuts||

severe gazelle
#

died at the final boss again

#

for the third time

stray terrace
#

f

uneven ledge
#

final boss is ||dusa||

severe gazelle
#

damn it after i collect 30 keys i find upgrades that giv eme +1%

#

i need more >.<

stray terrace
#

||the final mirrors dont make such a huge difference but can be real nice||

severe gazelle
#

keys are useless now right?

#

after i got 6 weapons and all the mirror things

uneven ledge
#

yeah

#

you can just trade them for nectar now

stray terrace
#

15 keys for a titan blood 😩

bold stratus
#

question: i have taken interest in speedrunning, i still havent finished the game as SPOILER ||hades(father himself)||is the last boss im trying to defeat but can i still go back to room or beginning after i beat whatever last boss or escape?

uneven ledge
#

oh yeah

#

that's also a really good deal always take the titan blood for 15 keys

stray terrace
uneven ledge
humble ore
#

Great thanks

bold stratus
#

Sorry for the spoiler am used to reddit spoiler tag dont know much about discord stuff

humble ore
#

That’s fine it took a bit for me to learn

severe gazelle
#

wait if i spend all my gemstone i can get it cool

dapper trail
#

Damn chaos shield is good

#

I reached the 1st boss battle and died :(

#

This was my best run so far

#

How do I beat her?

uneven ledge
#

don't be aggressive the first time around, play carefully and try to figure out her patterns

dapper trail
#

I did that exactly but then she started that 4 circle thingy

uneven ledge
#

shield is good for this because you can carefully watch her attacks while only needing to hold block to avoid taking damage

dapper trail
#

How to block?

#

I just spammed attack

uneven ledge
#

greater reflex is highly recommended for dodging that

#

spamming attack is a really bad strategy for shield

#

if you hold attack you can block attacks and charge up bull rush

leaden whale
#

Hİ

uneven ledge
#

you can block pretty much anything with it except for spike traps, aoe attacks and attacks from behind

leaden whale
#

I start Hades yesterday and I think i'ts an awesome game

dapper trail
#

Can I like soft reset for her fight over and over

uneven ledge
#

well, no

#

absolutely not

dapper trail
#

I guess when it saves, i can copy my save to desktop just before the fight

uneven ledge
#

you can't just die and then fight her again right after that goes against what a roguelike is

dapper trail
#

and then when i die

dapper trail
uneven ledge
#

you're supposed to start over when you die

dapper trail
#

Ok, I am gonna go with the ethics

uneven ledge
#

if it's too difficult there's no shame in turning on god mode

dapper trail
#

Hades is just so fun to play, hear and look at

#

Even If I lose over and over again, Im gonna continue playing

fluid yoke
#

yeah

#

i think eventually once you play enough with god mode the game should be like easy enough to do even if you take like all the hits not too hard so!!!

#

go enjoy

drowsy plover
#

Eh eh. Almost 90 runs I'm still using god mode for any weapon except shield shadegrief but one thing I started doing is using ||damage increase heat|| to reduce the effects of god mode shadesmile

uneven ledge
#

can't you just... disable god mode?

drowsy plover
#

No because I suck

uneven ledge
#

also i guess that answers my question from earlier

drowsy plover
#

I still keep dying after all this time because I'm not very used to other weapons (I mainly used shield so far)

dense laurel
#

Sword and rails should be easy to get used to

north quail
#

first 10 clears
6 in a row

craggy sundial
#

What does the like

#

i forgot the name

#

the thing you get from beating the elysium boss first time

#

what does it do

sleek axle
#

Ambrosia

#

||it's like nectar but you give it to people after you've completed their favours||

uneven ledge
#

you get to give it to people after you unlock their locked hearts

#

for now it doesn't really have much use and it's a safe bet to trade a bit of it for titan blood, though you shouldn't trade away more than you need to

craggy sundial
#

okay

uneven ledge
#

mainly considering it's generally harder to get ambrosia than titan blood or diamonds

rich cave
#

Definitely don’t trade too much ambrosia because you’re going to need a significant amount of it later on

north quail
#

can i go to #h1-story-discussion if i've won 10 times? i believe there's more lore after it and i'm really unsure

uneven ledge
dense laurel
#

Youll gain most ambrosias from your prophecies anyways so yea

north quail
severe gazelle
#

my cousin dosent want to play hades because you start over when you lose ;(

stray terrace
#

what

#

you do get to keep some things when you die

#

and isnt that literally the point of the entire roguelike genre

severe gazelle
#

he wants checkpoints and stuff

#

he dosent want to start at the beginning after losing

stray terrace
#

if hades had checkpoints you could beat it in like, an hour from start

old escarp
#

It's not like a run takes 5-10 hours, yeah

severe gazelle
#

ye i love hades

#

i think its fair the way it is

stray terrace
#

dds are even better than checkpoints

severe gazelle
#

i think i loved hades because i played dead cells before

#

completed it twice 😉

fresh current
#

Ambrosia is the FINISH HIM version of nectar

severe gazelle
#

still lose at hades final boss xD

#

@fresh current

#

i need your help

#

and wiseness

#

i can't give nyx any more nectar

#

the holy nyx has a locked heart

quartz condor
#

attack boon rec for Spear hades aspect? been using zeus, but i'm wondering if i'm screing myself

fresh current
#

Every Answer Is Always Keep Playing

#

👌🏻 Oooohhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 👌🏻

#

I had no answers on my journey young one. I discovered this place only after I was already a god of renown with everything unlocked and maxxed. That is how I know this lesson in my heart

#

Every Answer Is Always Keep Playing

formal rover
#

angry sword man here, dropping new player advice like he’s a confucian philosopher

#

ngl i respect it

fresh current
#

But to be specific fandy the secret to making our beloved goth mamas heart whole as all sons should involves ||chaos|| and I shall say no more

craggy sundial
#

WOOOO

#

I BEAT

#

ELYSIUM

fresh current
#

yooooooooooooo

#

chant it with me

#

THESEUS

#

A

#

PUNK

#

THESEUS

#

A

#

PUNK

craggy sundial
#

wait no

#

uh

#

what do i need to

#

feed

#

ya know

fresh current
#

oh lol

#

clear all the chambers

craggy sundial
#

wow

#

g

fresh current
#

at the end of one will be a fountain and one disgusting sack for one good boi

craggy sundial
#

thx

fresh current
#

it is rng how many chambers it takes

#

2-5

#

may you be blessed with your first 2 sack

#

chambers after sack are optional

#

you can beef up at your own peril or proceed on

#

also, protip

#

dont be scared of the skull icons on chambers

#

many times those end rooms are easier than the ones without

#

just be ready for a good miniboss scrap

#

hermes-speed

craggy sundial
#

these chambers are hard damn

fresh current
#

styx has compromises

#

toughest baddies

#

but most forgiving rooms in lots of ways

#

small

#

easy access to good bois to pat on the head with your shield

#

lots of walls to wrestle around with them and knock them into

chrome crow
#

truueee

fresh current
#

but beware poison

chrome crow
#

easy access to good bois is the most important

craggy sundial
#

i died

#

i died

#

i died

chrome crow
#

f

craggy sundial
#

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

fresh current
#

first note for you

#

do this now every time you get to styx

#

start making a rough mental map of where all the healing pools are

#

scout them out the second you walk into a chamber, priority 1

#

you do not want to be looking for a healing pool in the middle of a mad fight and not know where to go

craggy sundial
#

there are healing pools?

fresh current
#

that induces panic

#

and panic is the enemy

craggy sundial
#

in styx?

fresh current
#

there are pools that cleanse poison

#

so you are no longer afflicted

#

no healing

#

sorry, i misspoke

#

they have big-tiddy goddesses on them and glow white

craggy sundial
#

ok

fresh current
#

imperative

#

every single time you walk in a room

#

make a mental note of where at least one is

#

and play near enough to it

#

eventually you will develop a mental map and when you walk in certain tough rooms you will automatically know where you need to be

#

the rooms are randomized but they are not random

#

get me?

craggy sundial
#

hmmppff they make me go through all of that and then are just like no

fresh current
#

welcome to roguelikes 😘

#

now dust yourself off again and get further next time

nocturne vault
#

I need help with the elysium boss

#

i can easily make it up to him

#

but when i get to him

#

i always die

#

i like to use the sword with zeus lightning and poseiodon/athna boons

errant bramble
#

Did you drink from the invulnerability fountain?

nocturne vault
errant bramble
#

Oh it’s great and no I’m kidding

nocturne vault
#

where is it?

errant bramble
#

Just keep looking you’ll find it!! It’s very very tiny

nocturne vault
#

which room?

errant bramble
#

Kill asterius first ofc bc of Theseus summons

nocturne vault
#

yea

#

i can kill the bull pretty easily

#

but i have trouble with tehsus a lot

errant bramble
#

Dodge asterius, dash thru him when he jumps. Backstab him

nocturne vault
#

yea

#

i do that

fresh current
#

Save your biggest damage spike for when theseus goes enraged

errant bramble
#

Theseus does two moves. He only spins when you’re close to him. Let him throw spear then run up and kill him

fresh current
#

He is defenseless while he calls on the gods and you can atomize him

#

In the animation

#

Right when his invincibility shield comes off

nocturne vault
#

oh ok

fresh current
#

Take Aphrodite cast for this purpose

nocturne vault
fresh current
#

It erases the back half of most all boss fights

#

Sorry Aphrodite call not cast

errant bramble
#

He throws spear. You dodge it. Double dash up to him, hit him: run away, dodge spear, repeat

fresh current
#

Aphrodite call 1-button biiiig badda boom boss finisher

#

Best part is the damage doesn't change with rarity

nocturne vault
#

what does her call do?

fresh current
#

So a common one is as good as a heroic one

errant bramble
#

Summons Bruce Willis

fresh current
#

2500 damage

#

1 shot

#

Thicccccc

#

Use after last invincibility phase of any given boss

#

Fight over

#

Or you just need to sneeze on them

#

Just always make sure you smack the boss once or twice before you fire

#

To make sure they can take damage again

#

The big boom time

#

Hug face

#

Release love

nocturne vault
#

ok

#

do i charge fgully

#

or a little

rich cave
#

Artemis greater call is big damage too

fresh current
#

Yes

#

Fully

#

Arty great too

#

I like aphro for being one shot instead of many

uneven ledge
#

i always forget how much damage aphro's greater call does

fresh current
#

And for having the same damage from common to epic

uneven ledge
#

it does like 2400 damage

fresh current
#

2500 baby!

uneven ledge
#

biiiiiiiig number right there

#

how much damage for arty's greater call do?

fresh current
#

3500 if we're talking an epic Weak damage increase on deck too 😍

sleek pond
#

Because of damage gates though a lot of that damage can be wasted

fresh current
#

In one button

#

Yes

#

Important to use to finish fights

#

Only use after last invuln

#

But boss go bye bye

uneven ledge
#

it's very important to know that if you're gonna use an attack that does massive damage you gotta know exactly when to use it

fresh current
#

^^^^^^

uneven ledge
#

if you're not careful and use it in a panic it could be wasted

fresh current
#

Will be*

uneven ledge
#

imagine hitting an armored numbskull with aphro's greater call 🤢

rich cave
#

Artemis’s greater call does from a minimum of 1000 to a max of 3600

fresh current
#

Bro this is a family friendly server get that sick stuff out of here 🤮

rich cave
#

If it’s common and no arrows crit it does 1000 and if it’s heroic and all the arrows crit it does 3600

fresh current
#

see thats kinda why i like aphro for new players. Wanna know how much the trash common one does? 2500. Wanna know how much the Maxxxxed up heroic version does? 2500

#

its a button that doesnt take a braincell to operate

#

well, maybe 1 for timing

rich cave
#

Aphro’s regular call also isn’t garbage like Artemis’s

fresh current
#

yeah

#

i feel like for some newer folks without the benefit of later mirror stuff it may be the more consistent route

uneven ledge
#

so aphro's call is just stronger

fresh current
#

aphro's is less variable

uneven ledge
#

i mean at base aphro is stronger but what if you get clean kill and then arty thanthink

fresh current
#

(and very close to max Arty strength with the addition of one of her t2s 🙈)

#

true i didnt take into account clean kill

#

arty wins damage wars then

#

but aphro still much more consistent

drifting island
#

also you can pom arty's call damage but u cant pom aphro's call damage

fresh current
#

yup yup truth

#

so arty has a higher ceiling

#

but i do reccomend aphro if you're playing in this channel's pool

rich cave
#

Artemis’s call has +35% crit chance though

uneven ledge
#

huh so basically both are equally half-decent

worldly vigil
#

@fresh current Chrion bow go brrrrrr indeed lol

#

I just got it

fresh current
#

chiron go brrrrrrrrrrr

#

is it maxed?

uneven ledge
#

chiron gang 😎

worldly vigil
#

yeah

fresh current
#

oh yeah

worldly vigil
#

dio on special

fresh current
#

chiron go brrrrrrrrrrr

#

nice

worldly vigil
#

brrrrrrrrr

uneven ledge
#

nah bro

#

arty on special

fresh current
#

if you do that again make sure to hunt for aphro attack

uneven ledge
#

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

worldly vigil
#

I have aphro on attack too lol

#

looking for the duo now

fresh current
#

their duo makes chiron double nuts

#

ahhhhhhh yessss

#

good man

#

hunt that obsessively

uneven ledge
#

deadly flourish + heartbreak strike 🤏 🕶️ 😳

fresh current
#

that too

uneven ledge
#

heart rend????

fresh current
#

but then

#

but then

#

you dont get to talk to chad god

#

how do you take that sir

uneven ledge
#

you get to talk to chaddess gods instead

worldly vigil
#

deadly flourish on next run lol

fresh current
#

also the more i play i feel like arty is great but people tunnel vision on her a little

#

like, dio is just so flexible with so many gods

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whereas arty is like zeus but more extreme

worldly vigil
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So you are only able to find 4 different gods boons without using keepsakes after the 4th right?

fresh current
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you really, really want to get artemis snowballing before you can truly rek with her

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correct, should be

worldly vigil
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Does buying one from shop lock that god in as one of the 4?

fresh current
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4 is the max without shoehorning through keepsakes

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should

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you accepted their favor didnt you 😉

worldly vigil
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wdym

fresh current
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took the boon lol

worldly vigil
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I haven't gotten the duo yet

fresh current
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olympians are jealous cats

worldly vigil
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I just cleared the first floor and already have one from dio and aphro and I'm trying to decide if I should use aphro keepsake on the second

fresh current
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if you're taking boons from them they dont want to share your adoration with others

worldly vigil
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lol

fresh current
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so 4 is probably the most you can get before they all start getting mad at each other lol

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its not a bad idea

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get some t2 aphro stuff

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just bear in mind

worldly vigil
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I think I'm gonna go athena instead and get that divine dash

fresh current
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the "force god" aspect of keepsakes only activates once per run

worldly vigil
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yeah ik

fresh current
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you keep the rarity bonus if you find them, but a keepsake will only force a boon to appear once per run

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ok good

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i would go aphro and keep chasing that sweet damage but do you boo

worldly vigil
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okay lol I went aphro

fresh current
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if you're in for a duo like you're looking for it should be all in. your run isnt really online until that gets achieved imo, and other gods can frankly muddy the waters a bit when youre trying to chase something down

worldly vigil
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how exactly does hangover stacking work?

fresh current
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not that you shouldnt diversify, but if i was trying to get a duo online i would be trying to tech to it as fast as i can, and taking whatever the game gave me along the way

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pretty simple

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tick per second, stacks up to 5 ordinarily

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8 with duo

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or ticks faster with ares duo

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one tip

worldly vigil
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and you do base damage each tick per stack?

fresh current
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very important

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yes

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but tip

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only ever have one source of drunk damage if you can manage it

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Mix not your wines child, keep that booze coming from a single pure stream

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booze stacks can be overwritten

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so you could have a 14dmg epic attack

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and a trash 2dmg dash

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and your dash stacks will overwrite your attack stacks in the que if youre not careful

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so one source of booze

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when possible

worldly vigil
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ah okay good to know

fresh current
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call is the only acceptable exception to this

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dio call shares top tier

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and it is always permissible to overwrite with that because it is highest damage no matter what

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that said same rule, if your call is going try to let it do the drinking for you, find another button to press

worldly vigil
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dang why do they have to do this to me.. I'm looking at aphro or eurydice

fresh current
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oof

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honestly

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euridice

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take the rarity upgrade

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should be a bye round for your aphro keepsake

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and will buff it

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next boon rarity upgrade

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that is

worldly vigil
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so if I pick euridice aphro keepsake won't be used up?

fresh current
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can someone chime in and make sure im not wrong that if you dont take the forced boon it doesnt take the charge right?

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i believe that to be the case

rich cave
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It’s only used when you accept the boon

fresh current
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thought so

worldly vigil
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oh bet

rich cave
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Keep in mind that you may get unlucky and not find another boon though

fresh current
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just forces the god to the BOONS_AVAIL pile

worldly vigil
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I have 60 hours in this game and I still learn things about it every day lol

fresh current
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chance you take

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take euridice

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get that rarity for your aphro

rich cave
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^

worldly vigil
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oh boy I just got relentless volley

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this is gonna be so easy lol

fresh current
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Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

worldly vigil
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ohhh should I fight ||chiron||

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I did it once and got obliterated

rich cave
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Do it

worldly vigil
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aight wish me luck lol

rich cave
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Just stay away from him

fresh current
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Far far away

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Far far far away

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You might die here

rich cave
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You don’t want to get whacked with his ||oar||

fresh current
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But if you live no matter the cost it's worth