#h1-for-new-players
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alright
Sorry, deleted it.
thanks for your help
also i noticed that ||it doesn't show up at my prophecy called "close friends" i believe? i did it already without the last keepsake||
That's intended
Just keep clearing and you’ll be able to get it
Also yeah all the fists aspects are very good (apart from hidden imo but a lot of people like that one)
Secret Tip to beating the final boss:
||buy the aphrodite poster from the house contractor for your bedroom||
Wait really e_e
yes, it will fill you with the determination to win
trust me
Does it do anything other than that
Is that what triggers ||allowing you to use companions||
Oh?? 👀
I just got the ability to at one point and I couldn’t figure out what did it
it actually worked, i did it with the weapon i hate the most today after i did what's in the spoiler
I almost made it to ||Styx|| with the rail gun earlier this morning so anything's possible
Pretty sure it's ||Just a poster||
I have, it's pretty good ngl
oh, no
i just hate the bow
the only good thing about it is when you get twin shot and flurry shot
Oh my friend
that's the only time i beat the game
I like ||rail||
It's fine to not like a weapon, but
is judging you 
ngl I love how all the weapons are so balanced
Fists and rails are my favorite
To be fair, all weapons have their ups and downs. People like what they like lol
Bow is my least favorite but it isn’t bad
sgg did a really good job with balancing
I can agree that they did a great job at balancing everything
I smelled bow hatred here e_e
Bow just isn’t very fun to use imo
Very, very many ways to win using the various weapons in interesting ways
true
its only fun when you get twin flurry shot
Also god yes the balancing is so good in this game holy heck
Okay so
I love the bow
Twin flurry shot???
👀
Bruh just use the gun at that point lol
Arguments abound
Fists and rail are fun because haha fast
Yes but I can be powerful at a DISTANCE
fists are fun too
I don't think there's any way for someone to overestimate how much I love ranged combat
hey guys what's up, I just got into the game like a week ago when it was on sale
||flame wheels||
eyo
Doesn’t matter how close I am if the enemies are in a constant stunlock
||all my melee homies hate flamewheels||
Dash through a wall; easy and done
I must say I never played rogue type like game before, and I'm enjoying this one
I got into the game 3 days ago and already can make it reliably to Elysium lol.
Flame wheels are the bane of my existence
like if ur playing melee it's just really annoying/more work to deal with them
I always die at elysium vs minotaur with that other guy
I don't hate them, just that they make minecraft cat noises AAAAAAAA
even with athena's deflect dash boon
Bane of my existence are the ||Bull of minos and Theseus||
Oh yeah ||Theseus|| is a buttmunch
With rail they aren’t a problem but fists I almost always take damage fighting them
i do like the boons where you regenerate 2hp everytime you land a successful hit
Also,~~ nice~~ annoying that the gods like to give him boons as well
that was really helpful
is sword the only weapon where you can get this boon?
That is a hammer, and yes
Yeah the hammer upgrades are different for each weapon
yeah, sword only
There is one other aspect with a similar function
The sword and spear remain the last of the weapons I don't really know how to use properly lol
bummer
Most have similar versions for each weapon though
Not for life-steal
I'm bad at wielding the final weapon, I keep forgetting to reload
cursed slash + flurry slash + max zag aspect + epic swift strike = true immortality
I just realized that trading ||titan blood for 200 gems|| is a bad idea
||any recommendations for the aspect of guan yu for the prophecy? i made it to the temple of styx with it and died but the prophecy was still not complete. did i need to make it past cerberus?||
Jokes on you, I don't ever reload the gun 😎
I also watched the blood of zeus after playing this game
I can also recommend it to you guys if you like greek mythology
Greek mythology is awesome
learned it the hard way didja 
what hammer is good for bow
i think you just need to get to (late-ish game spoiler) ||hades||, because when i got there with (also late-ish game spoiler) ||gilgamesh|| something cool appeared on the screen lol
||although few facts doesn't match in the game and mythology like Zagreus was a son oh Persephone and Zeus not Hades||
game is very cool
||also he got killed not so long after being born||
It's very wet-sounding
how do you explain that voice haha
tisiphone is just hilarious with her murderer vocab
Tisiphone is also unironically my favorite one to wail on lol
Alecto just takes too long and feels like a boring version of Meg to me but probably only because their attack patterns are pretty similar
T H A N A G R E U S
Thanatos gives off MASSIVE ex-boyfriend energy oml
thanzag Good
YES!
i ship
|| M E G A R E U S ||
it is always so funny to me to see dionysus helping ||theseus|| bc i Remember who he married and what ||theseus|| did to her
I still haven't successfully beaten the game, this is normal right?
i play on god mode and i've beat the game lots
Yeah it takes a while to beat
(I'm a beginner at these types of games)
He just wants to give us a lil challenge to further kick that boy's hiney
but even then it took me a while
Especially if you are new to the game
valid of him
I have too much pride to enable God Mode; I'll admit it. But I'm also not doing awful on the normal mode either so 🤷
i kept getting killed before reaching asphodel so i switched it on
Is there somewhere in the games like an archive?
where I see how many times I failed?
xD
||Yes, you can unlock it.||
ah nice
yep!!! the ||admin chamber||
Yeah get some of the bedroom contracts done
||House contractor with admin chamber access||
Oh well that's also a way
That one's much more specific which is helpful, but if you just wanna see how many times you've tried get the ||scrying pool for your bedroom||
eventually you get so much power off of the mirror god mode is rendered redundant
Yeah like ||increased rarity of boons||
the scrying pool is nice to just keep track of your progress because for some reason you don't get to go to the (late-ish game spoiler) ||administrative chamber|| until later on
did someone watch blood of zeus?
This dude just left her on some cold island the hell?
I was too and I beaten it on some 2 smth try
don't worry
the credits song is amazing...
I feel like it was my 40th try
also if someone watched blood of zeus, the spear also has the same attack like in hades
stab and pull it back xD
you can check how many times you tried in your sleeping room
according the hades game codex the spear originally belonged to hades
yeah
in blood of zeus it also belonged to hades
so I was happy to hear that they didn't twist any story
||and hades himself says that on a final bossfight||
next to the exit to weapons room there's a water smth if you click on it or go near it there will be you kill stat and how many times you tried
I will probably have to unlock that with the gemstones
not sure bout that
thats the first room upgrade ever
Oh I'm pretty sure it's cheap
If I spoiled smth that's sorry
megreus... that's a new one
||equiped a dyonisus keepsake before asphodel
haven't seen him at all during asphodel
thanks hermes :)||
the olympians' keepsakes only let you see them once and then never again during the run
well i haven't seen him at all
even if you switch to a different one and then try to switch back it locks that keepsake
hermes moment
i thought hermes was a spoiler
he isn't present in tartarus until you see him in ||asphodel||
only (late-game spoiler?) ||demeter|| is really a spoiler
the other gods aren't spoilers, not like it's gonna take you a while to get past meg
nectar is a really early-game thing
basically anything that you would get before you've actually made it out of asphodel isn't a spoiler
Artemis' call is absolute bonkers. She just shredded 1/4 hp of [Redacted]'s HP
At full bar call
Oh yeah, love the fact that the file says ||[Redacted] instead of hades in admin chamber||
||"Oh you've been killed by... Redacted? Never heard of it before!"||
censor the aspect's name
||"I've done some work on tracking down Redacted, but cannot seem to find them"||
Or something like that
but i would go for shadow slash if thats the one with 200% dmg to backstab
yup
go that one
||arthur|| deals a lot of dmg so backstabbing is insane on it
EXACTLY!!! like dio buddy WHY are you helping the man who abandoned your wife????
Idk greek mythology is awesome but sometime it can be f'd up
|| like Zeus actually having kids with any woman that can give him kids||
Zeus' libido is off the charts
Tell that to Aphrodite
Ah yes aphrodite cant argue with that lmfaooo
at least if aphrodite comes after you, you feel kinda honored cause love desires you. if it's zeus tho it's just "oh no the horny"
just a reminder to keep it clean and on topic here!
U gona get bonked
||Also I like that when I maxed relation with Aphrodite she said so line like "You know I have a husband right?", Yea you haven't cared about that when Ares was in your chambers||
oh and let's not forget about that rather some-what ||spicy|| artwork of ares and aphrodite that was poted on the subreddit
fought the last boss for the first time and lost:D
The more hearts I earn with gods does that improve the rarity of boons
managed to get past Asphodel and then defeat the Bull in Elysium! then a longspear killed me welp
next time you'll be more prepare for it with both power and knowledge
I made it all the way to the snowy area but you know who rect me
i fought him with 3 death defiances i could have 4 but couldnt afford one for 40 gold
aye still gg on making it to him 👀
it was [REDACTED] wasn't it
on the last floor i got an epic boon from the store that restores my hp to 50% after each chamber lol
it was op
can t&a stop being so annoying.
if they didn't eat all of my dds i definitely wouldn't have lost this run. theseus just happened to summon the hardest god to deal with and i ended up dying to final boss with very little of their hp left.
thanks, theseus
i meant to reply to @subtle granite xD
xd
"thanks Theseus", but in dark souls "you died" font
kick their asses separately ;) or just get a god call to greater max call and unleash it on theseus when he enters stage 2
pop it's not a problem anymore
I love the Aphro call, esp. for bosses.
ahh yes after party is AWESOME but not that helpful for the endboss fight - positive outlook is a bit better for that ;)
Really feels like the most versatile to me. Keep mobs off you or do a ton of dmg.
Does the small rooms that you enter in styx counts as separate chambers
Or is it just 1 chamber per door
Yep
Ohh
yes but not for the butterfly or plume keepsake
That's nice to know
i absolutely did that, bruh. didn't greater call though, got a buff that gives me extra damage after using a call and so i just made full use of that.
theseus just. went for her. and the entire run fell apart.
Thanks
yes but not for the butterfly or plume keepsake
i absolutely did that, bruh. didn't greater call though, got a buff that gives me extra damage after using a call and so i just made full use of that.
theseus just. went for her. and the entire run fell apart.
Because there's a mirror upgrade that heals you for 3 hp per chamber
it's a great one but others are better (like dio's call can do up to 40 damage PER halfsecond PER stack
yep that works there
Nice. Thanks for the tip
Dionysus call is great, ares call is great, aphrodite call is great and artemis call is god tier
artemis call for the lazy bones 😂
aphrodite call stuns bosses
Neither is Artemis’s call
Yeah
it's good as a helper call
Her greater call is the best though
So, Theseus never gets help from a god you have any boons from.
This god's keepsake is maybe worth taking for a zone, just to grab a single boon and deny that power to Theseus. Something to think about, anyway
Wait what
but damage are definitively arty dio etcetc
I didnt know that
i don't understand what you're talking about
true, true. and i like the boons, too. definitely something to think about.
omfg Artemis F deals so much dmg on the 4 bars loaded
have seen it do 4k damage once
it's pretty
Crit?
Artemis merry me pls
Meg best
Artemis call (and cast, and other things that create the glowing arrows) bypass enemy shields. Even Theseus's.
The support fire?
That's the one, thanks
crits and poms
@subtle granite noice
ikr
Mine only did 3k
endboss just melted
Dandere Artemis>Tsundere Meg and don't deal with it
i like artemis + bow
sadly i'm not lucky enough to get bow as my darkness+ weapon
just 3k is still so much damage
My darkness+ weapon is always the shield
hydra stages only have 2.5k HP
personally i find myself going for zeus call the most but that's because it's the only ability from him i like, and if you start throwing lightning buffs onto it it becomes very fun. compared to everything else he has being naff.
actually, i've never got aphro's call now that i think about it
my darkness+ weapon is 90% of the time railgun which i absolutely hate
zeuses cast gives a free tart lol
I find zeus' call underwhelming cause i can get hit
might wanna try it ;)
also if i'm running a festive fog build i like to go for zeus to try for the duo
I want to cheese my way out of it so i dont use my dd

~~festive fog x ||demeter|| tho 👀 ~~
Less skills required, the better
lool

||Ice wine baby||
||ice wine|| and dio/zeus duo combo when
Lol
is aspect of ||lucifer|| any good?
Artemis+Zeus is pretty sick in my opinion tho
ye
it'svery different but it's meme beam but GUN
What hidden aspect is good at level 1?
at least it's actually pretty manageable to use
unlike pretty much all of the 5 other hidden aspects
if i get that i'll tag you in victory boast lol
i liked zeus cast up until the bloodstone that makes the enemy take more damage gets stuck in the enemy the opposite side of the area instead of the one you aimed at
@unreal eagle aspect of ||Arthur||
aspect of ||gilgamesh|| is also pretty okay
Aight
Arguably best weapon in the game
Thanks
please do, man. i tried for it one run, ended up running ||ice wine|| and buffed zeus call together. no duo, but it was still op.
Gonna get some titan bloods
trying to get that aspect but nyx hasn't been wanting to gimme the line
i feel like just dying over and over again just to get it but now i don't wanna lose my 12+ win-streak
you will get a new streak later on dont worry
if we're on about hidden aspects... i got ||guan yu|| for my main weapon, used it once, and i never want to touch it ever again ew
😂
@civic blaze what are the requirements for it
hidden spear truly is love
Invest 5 titan blood in any weapon
Talk to Achilles I think?
Invest 5 titan blood in the sword
Talk to Nyx
- Stygius: ||Aspect of Arthur. Unlock the Aspect of Guan Yu, then invest at least 5 Titan Blood into any Blade aspects. Nyx should tell you more in a conversation soon after that.||
Oh rip
the full list is pinned in #h1-story-discussion
and now the game wants me to beat a run using it? with ||literally no hp and a crappy moveset|| like ok back to aspect of hades for me
who actually went and spent 5 titan blood with unlocking ||guan yu|| in mind
you have to
because achilles is your teacher
so he teaches you about his weapon and its hidden first
Oh
long live the story continuity 
I haven't thought od that
no i mean who actually saw it and went "yeah, i want that" and spent 5 titan blood just to unlock it instead of the other aspects which are way better
I invested in bow and shield
:)
hidden spear is funnily enough either your favorite weapon or least
there are so many high heaters who only do hidden spear it's insane
||Guan Yu ||needs to have its damage literally doubled for it to be viable compared to the other aspects
i heard the special is actually good though
well you have perma heal, that should be enough
(hidden aspect spoiler?) ||piercing projectile with a pseudo-aoe effect and good damage seems cool||
the special is thirsted after, thats true
since you already have a spear aspect for that
i think charged skewer is its name
i didn't know what ||guan yu|| did and just went 'everyone says the hidden aspect weapons are awesome, i can't wait to get my hands on the strongest version of the spear' and then the game went 'lol no go back to your spamming spin attack scrub'
nvm it's called Exploding Launcher Your Special is replaced with a shot that deals 50 damage in an area.
people apparently like it, i prefer my achilles triple dash
If the spears hidden aspect didn't take away half of your health it would be an A tier tbh
aye
Takes away 70 at rank 1
but well, maxed it at least gives you some health back
Gotta spend 15 blood to get down to 50
yee
at lvl 1 it reduces your health to a whopping 15 if your're using high confidence
🤮
dyslexia moment
it's a real shame i don't like using spin attacks that much bc thats all hades aspect is good for, but it excels at that
the life steal isn't worth it if you have to charge it up
I mean, tbf, at rank 5, it's a ranged cursed slash
and also it takes so much of your health
So it's not useless, just kinda bleh
It's the opposite of the Sword hidden aspect tbh
the life steal would be worth it if getting hit by a clobberskull didn't do half your hp
and it stole more than 1hp
The sword gives you extra health while still being a powerhouse
maybe if it had universal lifesteal it would actually be worth the general health decrease but unless you have the quick-charge hammer it's just 🤮 👎
The lifesteal would be better if you got 1 hp every time you attacked
Yah i agree. Got my unlocked, doubt I'm gonna be using it
it wouldn't even be too overpowered because you attack so slow
also the normal attack is insanely slow now and i can't handle that either
the high damage doesn't even make up for it
the other aspects arguably have a better dps
You're trading most of your health for what?
I'd argue that even the other spear aspects have better damage sometimes
i think someone has said this already but ||guan yu|| really is just a worse aspect of zeus
Anyone wish you were allowed to visit ||Greece after true ending?||
yes
yeah
always
||guan yu|| terrible i'm going back to spamming spin attack using hades aspect.
pair it with artemis and charge speed/long range hammers and do 200 damage to everyone in the room in one go
i think we should go to #h1-story-discussion
mk back to my run, i need 1 gem to get this one item so that's fun.
which item
i can't really see farming being implemented but this game also has vn aspects in it so what's the worst that could happen
just a cosmetic for the house
but it's a pain to save for
it would be a great addition tho to still have you visit ||greece|| <33333
hades = ac-nh but roguelite
hades = roguelite + vn
I always get hit in ||Erebus||. What are some strategies to avoid getting hit?
Should I prioritize using my diamonds to ||get Erebus or to free Sisyphus?||
hades: roguelite "what if sims was fun after the character designing"
focus on enemies that cause you more trouble
I often will ignore the skull enemies because I know I can just dodge past them consistently
oh hey, another legendary fish entry complete. nice
unless you go higher heat and are good at no-hit encounters, go for sisy
but the projectile enemies and charing ones can get me so I prioritize them
Ok I changed my mind Aspect of Eris is busted lol
i swear i get to theseus and i just dont do damage
might be because of his shield
i cant beat them without spending 3 dds i swear
you need to hit him from behind
i do tho
You have to kill the bull first
i do that
you dont have to
Then dash behind him and hit him
i always kill bull first
its recommended to kill asterius first
ayy donkey's back
yes i am
For newer players its highly recommended to kill minotaur first
just use your call for theseus
I can't even imagine not killing Asteroid first.
While he's calling the gods he can't block
or if you have trippy shot on your cast
Dealing with both of them at once while they're getting their god call?
i didnt have a call lol
It’s not impossible but definitely a lot harder
Is it just me, or do legendary fish get caught more often than rare fish on a perfect catch? I always catch a seamare in elysium.
idk what im building lol i kinda just spam doom stuff on sword
asteroids 👀
how do you beat up an asteroid
thats what you usually do lategame, i stopped focussing asterius about 50 runs ago and started investing into priviledged status calls
also i kinda used up all my blood on eris rail aspect and i boned now
30secs elysium bossfight 
Idek what that is D:
priviledged status is the mirror aspect that makes you do +40% damage to enemies with more than 2 status curses (like weak and hangover or doom)
it's the 4th to last mirror aspect
What's a perfect catch?
Ah, gotcha. I haven't gotten into nitty gritty builds yet, but that sound awesome.
1/21 chance to get a legendary on a perfect cast
The sooner the Interact button is pressed, the higher rarity the fish will be. The time window of fishing is:
Less than 0.34 second: Perfect catch. Guaranteed to catch a Rare fish. 1/21 (≈ 4.76%) chance to catch a Legendary fish
0.34 second to 0.68 second: Catch. 1/21 chance to catch a Rare fish.
After 0.68 second: fail with a "Too Late" message.
^aka the game telling me i have crud reflexes
relying on your sense of sound doesn't help
same, it may be that sgg secretly changed the rarity without us knowing 👀 conspiracy conspiracy
there's so many random sound effects like where does that occasional "poof" come from i'm like 45+ runs in and i can't figure out what that is
i just watch for the blinding flash
instructions unclear, watched for blinding flash, fish got away and i can also no longer see
xd
my first time trying ||em4|| lets see how it goes
i should make it a habit to eliminate all in-game background noise like infernal troves before going to the fishing spot so i can hear the cue better
||extreme measures|| meg and lernie aren't that hard but i haven't tried out ||theseus and asterius|| or ||hades||
||em3|| asterius is called the beyblade
prolly still going to melt ||hades|| because i have my crit build on chiron with support fire
aphro attack and artemis special with heart rend
i wanna help you but just good luck 👀
ty
so far im on a roll going into elysium with 12:37 left
with the 9 min ||time heat||
Guys whats the difference between upgraded rarity or leveled up boons
?
And which ones do you guys mostly pick?
Rarity improves base value. Level provides a static increase, iirc.
So it depends on the boons in question.
and whether or not you usually chose poms
Like difference between Hangover Attack common -> Heroic is...10 dmg vs 20, I think? But leveling increases it by ~4 each level.
cause if you do it would be better to get rarity
Or not 4. Variable, like 1/2 each level.
since pom upgrades degrade fast
Let's say I got athena's divine dash / hangover atk / weak cast / zeus lighting special
All are lvl 1
which rarity?
I wish I could see the rarities 😭
press b
press b
But I'm in the middle of the conversation
ah wait you're in the chose menu
With eurydice
well you can still see the color surrounding the boons tho,no?
like are there more purplle or blue boons
Tbh, the difference is minor. You'd be safe with either.
If you have 4 at least though, I'd just pick that one.
I cant
U mean pom?
Idr which item is which. There's one for 2 boons, and another for 4. I'd do the latter.
Well there is only 1 purple
It's the wine god and aphrodite duo boon
low tolerance
Duos don't have rarity, do they?
no, they are "duo"
Like Legendaries, they're unique.
So I got Poseidon's fish boon at the start of a run, which I imagine is forced. Is the best way to aim for that otherwise to just take his relic and the mirror trait for Legendaries?
whats that bow build that lets you permaspam special?
chiron i think you're talking about?
or do you mean the boon build itself
i have no idea
im really pissed at the game so i wanna turn my brain off and just grind darkness

if you want free wins, just be a shield crutcher like me
I'm on ||heat 7|| on my chaos shield without a single failure
shield just doesnt click for me idk
fair, game is personal preference after all
i also used up all my blood so i cant get any new aspects anyways
get more
sounds like you have to find what suits you best and start grinding 
is 60 runs in worth restarting
my run was 13:55
what should i go on shield lol
my best on rail is 33 min 😆
might be because i only have 2 runs with it total
1 win 1 lose
have you cleared yet lasey
ares keepsake, take special doom if you're using chaos aspect, if you're not, then probably attack - look for more ares rooms to increase doom damage or dio/aphro for other status effects for privileged debuff
hmm ok what dash?
kinda depends where I am in the run, deflect dash is always good, if it's late into the run and I don't have a second status effect then i'll take dio/aphro ^
ok thx ill try it out :D
hey donkey, I've recently maxed out ||meg's companion doll||, should I focus on ||unlocking the ability to summon her in hades fight|| or something else?
||also wasn't there supposed to be a quest involved with relationships, or am I not maxed on her yet|| 
i thought my game was broken for a sec because i got the error corrupted save file and it didnt work to go back to a recent backup after 5 tries it finally work
phew
and didnt lose my 13:55 run
mmm hypnos favor unlocked
ik i aint donkey but unlocking her in endboss fight feels very nice
i have only tried sisyphus' ||companion||
Is this a response or a comment of your own 
a comment of my own
noted
decided to try out some mods
nothing crazy just some dps mod and weapon mastery to get some cool effects on my weapons the more i use them
didn't even know hades was modded 
you can mod it there are a lot of mods that make the game easier
you can also get more challenges
or just have fun
you can also go overboard and get the mod that makes your mirror of the night upgrades have more levels
meh, maybe when im better at the game
wait is the only other way to get more blood to beat big redacto?
still learning atm 
||after you beat him for the first time, you'll be able to set mini-challenges for yourself called pacts/heats, with that you'll earn titan's blood from every fury & hades kill||
you can also buy them from the shop in the lounge ||as well as charon's shop in the styx if you have an insane amount of coins||
until you win, killing the first boss with each weapon is the only way
aspects aren't required, I believe in ya 
you could try turning god mode on if you havent already
you get a dmg reduction for the more times you lose a run with godmode
you're not immortal
min 20% dmg reduction and maximum 80%
no im very proud of my 60 failed runs :D
i dont think you get punished for god mode
but just keep in mind if you are struggling you can try godmode
or he sends it non stop till he gets it without, then he'll feel like a king when he does
👑
thats what i did
I have 70 runs overall, 2 successful ones without god mode and 8 with it. Ah well there's no shame in that
i have 57 runs and 24 successful
I even did some ||heat|| runs with god mode on
first was 30
Titan Blood: You get this from first boss, ||fourth boss||, ||fourth area shop sometimes for 1200 gold||, ||Secret Fish||, various prophecies in the Fated List, and through buying things at the Wretched Broker in the lounge(you should check the broker every time you die and possibly save resources for them).
how uall so successful even without god mode jesus
i have 121 runs with 34 i think escapes
You see, enemies can't kill you if you kill them first 
Sometimes it's RNG. Sometimes you just get a super op build
outside of a desperate attempt to beat a run
dodging hits and dps mostly
twice which have failed
i suppose ive just improved from once and picked up tips and upgrades
there isnt too much damage without god mode
like if you get enough health
and healing
and dodging
like i mean the difference between unless you have really high god mode
idk take it at your own pace the game
don't be ashamed to use help if you need it
yeah, the most important thing is that you have fun
you'll get better as you play
and know more about enemies and attacks and stuff and get boosts
if you wanan restart a run also just click give up
103 attempts with 42 escapes :)
Does using titan blood ||to unlock aspects count towards the Guan Yu unlock conditions||
yeah
i think so
you need to spoiler tag that name sthough
the latter half of the message
after my first clear it took me way too long to get my second
i got my first at 20 attempts and my second at 45
after that its been a breeze
when i was trying to go for full hearts on the gods i may or may not have wasted a lot of runs to make it faster
yeah i have like 30 attempts that lasted for 30 sec to 4 min lol
suicide
thats what i did to make getting the gods hearts faster max
So like there's a few things.
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Dodge. This SEEMS obvious, but sometimes I get lazy. I think invincibility frames on dashes are pretty lax, but dashattacking might remove them. Not 100% sure.
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Kill enemies first. This... seems obvious, again, but there are a LOT of enemies that are quite nasty but ridiculously easy to kill. The flying skulls in the first area, for example, come in massive numbers and have dangerous somewhat difficult to dodge attacks but are also VERY FRAGILE. Learn when enemies need to be focused first(gems are another high threat thing you have to kill first)
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Attacks destroy (a lot) of projectiles. Most weaker projectiles in the game tend to get destroyed by attacks, even without Athena boons. There are some enemies that don't(anything that looks like a wave, if I remember correctly), but tiny little blob projectiles? Yeah, you need to time attacks to destroy them. This is almost essential in the second area.
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Learn how to scale your damage. There are three damage upgrades in the mirror: Learn to apply them as much as possible, for this is Global Damage which is the best kind of damage increase. There are also two kinds of damage boons: Attack/Special percentage damage boons and flat damage boons. Percentage damage boosts benefit more from other boons and synergy, flat damage boons need poms for level ups instead(with some synergy boons).
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PRIORITIZE HEALTH. Centaur hearts both heal you AND permanently increase your max health. Many things in the game give you percentage health healing, including certain things in the charon shop and fountains. Or death defiances. Once you feel comfortable with the health you have you can focus on other things, but really. Health. Try to keep enough gold for a centaur heart in a shop and consider skipping other things when you need health.
dashattack does remove i-frames on dash
good to know, I sae Haelein mention it ||with the fourth gun aspect|| but was not 100% sure if it was just a special thing there.
Usually when I have difficulty dodging something, it's because I'm attempting to plant my face into a bunch of projectiles instead of doing what it seems like you're supposed to do and clear a path for yourself with attacks/specials/casts.
Grinding your face up against elite witch attacks in second area, not quite recommended :p Much easier to just stand still and swipe through with an attack sequence.
Yeah witches circle is hard to beat without taking damage in asphodel
divine dash
my fav for that miniboss is sword + athena deflect on special
you can just stand in the middle and spam q
Without divine dash, athena deflect, or good old fast attacks to clear projectiles quickly
special
Yeah ranged helps cause you aren't in the middle of many projectiles in a small area when you attack
I think every weapon has a way to deal with them. Sword(special), Spear(attack), Shield(block lol), Bow(special), Fists(attack), Gun(special/sometimes attack)
you can also just pick a different room without the boss logo if you're struggling with it
Athena makes it easy mode, yes.
black shawl? you mean the keepsake from nyx?
Which of the aspects are worthwhile only by maxing them out first? I have 32 titan bloods and not sure what to max with it.
keepsakes arent applied to a specific weapon
theres an upgrade to the house contractor that lets you change keepsakes in between regions if thats what you're asking
you can also change them at the beginning of each run in the skelly room
No but one weapon was glowing dark
Yes
yes, its randomly assigned
||guan yu|| can be pretty hard at low levels so getting it out of the way isnt a bad idea
Same
Also how to get the ||gun||?
have you unlocked the other weapons yet?
Get more keys
Thx @ripe oar any other weapons like that? By only looking the weapon rule texts ||guan|| one seemed obvious
Using keys to unlock ||fists|| unlocks ||gun|| later on
keep getting keys and just progress through the story, keep talking to characters :)
she eventually goes down, work on mirror
i never die at meg anymore
almost beat her without getting hit
But you need to unlock the base 4 before you unlock ||fists||
the hidden aspect for bow is also hard at low levels imo
Okay ty
No problem!
you eventually get good... I started a new game and cleared meg and the next area on my first run
Oh and who to give ||ambrosia|| first
you're on ambrosia already?
I got 2
you can't give them until you finish the nectar
how did you get ambrosia before clearing meg?
Yes, via the mirror and keepsakes
trading?
But only if you use them
yes
So why is it getting harder
how is it getting harder?
Wait what's the booze you give the people to get keepsakes@leaden whale
to still be challenging
The first bosses changed
challenging :)
And do more stuff
Oh yeah, they change to get a bit more challenging to add more content
ambrosia, but you have to get to the locked heart before it's available to give... you give nectar first
they shouldnt be that much harder than the normal boss
thx
But you also get more powerful, so it balances it out
Bruh I already lost 2 DD and I only just beat hydra
Btw is there a lot of build difference
Like Issac
the first boss only changes with heat... what are you talking about @exotic sable ?
Yeah Hydra changes frequently and has different patterns for each one
@leaden whale Nah I fought another sister
upgrade your mirror and learn the attack patterns to dodge her dashes, use athena's boons, they help a lot in this fight
there are 4 hydra variants iirc
She was way harder
yeah, that's right
Build varieties I mean
And the furies swap out from Meg, ||Tisiphone||, and one more
That's what you mean
||alecto||
Three different furies, meg is the easiest as she's the starter one
I’d argue that tis is easier than meg
youll get the hang of it man :) its just like fighting meg for the first time, youll get better at it as you continue to play and acquire upgrades
I think ||Alecto|| is cute... ||wish you could grow a relationship with her beyond just boss quotes||
i'd rank them that way:
||tisiphone|| > ||meg|| > ||alecto||
Alecto is the hardest by far though
So yeah now I'm getting my ass handed to me and I got no hammers
Also the names of the furies aren’t spoilers
alright
||Tis|| is a push over with athena boons
Right
tisiphone is the hardest and alecto is the easiest for me
Just trying to be safe
How
Meg is easier than alecto for me
I feel like Alecto is the hardest for me
im the opposite lol
alecto is the hardest for me
Easiest to hardest imo is Tis, Meg, Alecto
i like that tis ||makes the room smaller||, it makes her easier to hit
Yes
I seem to struggle with the one with the rage gauge the most
alecto just dies very fast and is easy to dodge while tisiphone covers your entire screen with her projectiles
That’s Alecto
athena booooooon
ik
alecto is the hardest to dodge for me
So alecto, Tisiphone, then meg for me
they are all easy for me but tisiphone might hit me once or twice
Alecto’s is more of a bullet hell than the other two
why?
you mean tisiphone?
she only fires 3 sawblades
i would not describe alecto as a bullet hell
She has way more projectiles at once than the others do
My luck is trash
I guess tis has a few more but they’re much easier to dodge than Alecto’s with the sawblades too
wouldn't say so
alecto's attacks are predictable for me while tisiphone is 50% luck
talos fists enjoyer? is that my second account?
lmaooo
The rivalry begins
as someone who mains fists, alecto is easier in some ways because she stands still a lot
also she rage-follows you onto the spikes
a friendly rivalry i hope?
Yes
yes i also prefer fists
because i am also a demeter fists enjoyer albeit to a slightly lesser degree
All fists aspects are good aside from hidden imo
whaaaaat
haven't played until the hidden one yet
i like hidden fists quite a bit
I can’t handle how slow it is
but i believe i'll get them soon
i prefer athena + zeus + some debuff for fists
i like zeus primary fists
divine attack is soo good with fists
oh what a topic
i occasionally play fists, ngl. they're hella fun
fists > blade > spear > bow(i can't place it lower than the shield)/shield > railgun
for me
i hated shield earlier but i'm getting better at using it with chaos aspect
fists > shield > sword > spear > rail > bow for me
while railgun is unplayable for me
beowulf with grasp and fully loaded is very good
bow is fun with cast + special with some aspect i forgot which
o sorry
yeah they should
yeah i think hera
hera bow is what makes it the most fun for me
you placed it at the bottom
overall the weapons are really well balanced so the difference between like, my least favorite fists aspect and my most favorite bow aspect is like 👌 this much
chiron with posiden special just flings whoever gets hit just gets flung into a wall
s tier: fists, blade
a tier: spear
b tier: bow, shield
c tier:
d tier:
e tier:
f tier: railgun
(for me)
for the elysium final fight, who should i get rid of first?
posideon sword with artemis' exit wounds sounds amazing
asterius first is my general strat
same
yeah i usually kill asterius first or both of them at the same time
thats what I did
s tier: fists, rail
a tier: shield
b tier: spear, sword
c tier:
d tier:
e tier:
f tier: bow
dealing with theseuses boons and asterius is painful
so peoples tier lists are based on favoritism? stupid
i mean what else would it be based on lol
i like to save my greater call ||and chthonic companions|| for when he does that cause hes basically a sitting duck
bonus points if you have a call that makes you invulnerable
rail is just unplayable for me
it's special is too slow + you have to reload (why won't you charge the bow then logic 100)
i just wish the chaos extra shields bounced
nah
but else, agree, totally not fun
that's what makes it less fun for me
i need da bounce
arent some of the highest damage in a single hit run with rail?
I like the bow more than the rail but i think both are fun
i should try that
it is
but dps is still small
rail just isnt fun without the right hammers
This game
Takes forever to get a good build
thats why you get keepsakes
For 10 games in a row
what are you doing?
No but the hammers
you only get 1 in tarty
i just realized that i never raged in hades...
that's quite impressive since i'm a very hot-tempered person
Yes
hammers are only necessary for rail imo
I'm trying
Oh my god I just got support fire and deadly flourish and tidal dash
And support fire
you can always try god mode
i love support fire sm
welcome back keer!
Hello!!!
I dont wanna use god mode
hehe it's a nice build, gg
what's god mode
You’ll be pleased to know I’ve done 4 clears
I shouldn't have to use a mode cause of rng
Although it’s on god mode
so what
thank you!!!
still gg!
uhhh i mean
3 streak
there's no shame in it
On fists
:D
you can turn in on and off in the middle of a run
I just love fists
hehehe
:>
Nah
@exotic sable If your getting angry cus your not getting a good build or playing the game wrong. Im new to the game i bout it like 4 days ago. I usally play with bow and i dont even try to get specific stuff. I just play the game and build stuff on the spot.
whatsup :D
It's for losers
Yessss I love god mode cuz it’s my first time playing so I want the story unlocked
Whats the best weapon to deal with ||minotaur and achilles?||
Before I git gud
Not achilles
honestly man you need to chil
@exotic sable please be nice
Inforgot his name
I think it depends
even if you joke
theseus
god mode is for anyone that wants it for any reason
If you want a easy win just use bow with the homing special
ok I love that we’re not a god mode shaming server
depends on your preference :D
Cuz I love it
it works against all bosses
Ah I find that bow doesn’t work for me at all but I need to use it more
It’s my 4th time using fists and I’ve cleared 3 times so I’m now it’s biggest fan
By preferences do you mean general playstyle or how i wanna handle the boss? Cause i dont ahve any specific preference
not everybody is an S-tier gamer andnot everybody enjoys roguelikes/lites so why should be shame that :)
In general
big facts
Hm it depends on how you play right
you asked about which weapon is the best for it and there is no overall better weapon, it solely depends on which weapon is your most comfortable one :)
i have never enjoyed a rouglelike (or rougelite) before hades and the plot is what drew me in
same
sameeee and I love Greek mythology
i struggled a lot as i was first starting out and god mode made the game accessible to me
same keer ;w;
so i will not stand for god mode hate
Does anybody know if Hades is best played on Switch or Pc?
no shame in using it
A lot of ppl I know have bought it bc of story and mythology
dont worry nobody will be shaming it here lol
Shadow slash or cruel thrust
Same talos!!
i prefer cruel thrust
Yeah idc if you use godmode
I personally dont and probably never will cause i think the energy is fun and think godmode would diminish fhat but ik nkt rcrryone will thank that
Also sorry for my ungodly typing
I was losing so much and I was starting to hate the game
Does shadow slash stack with the talent btw
And now I loooove it
i have yet to beat the game without god mode at all, although it's not for lack of trying. i almost had it the run before last...
if somebody so much as looked at god mode users badly, they can say hello to these talos fists and this 80% damage reduction
mood
I think I’m at 60% reduction right now
@exotic sable just play the game and you will win. That just how it works in this game. If you like wanna get a world record that like the only time you need to get super serius to get the best build
I don't want to resort to using god mode
@exotic sable dont
I got to the last boss without it once
That’s your choice
yeah man its completely up to you
I'm only using god mode to farm titans blood to upgrade my weapons to make subsequent runs more managable
well yes
it's a roguelike
I’m trying to get the first bits of the story done and god mode helps me with that
you have permanent upgrades in the mirror of night
and you can force stuff with keepsakes
Before I play for heats
false
if you could chose everything it wouldnt be fun
@exotic sable what are you talking about. there is bad build
I love the unpredictability
Unless you have no life and can dodge everytning
