h1-for-new-players

[analog radish]

some one say someting

so we have discusion

about game

[ruby mural]

what are you guys' favorite aspects

[analog radish]

eris or chiron

[fast gyro]

I'm about to go into Asphodel should I keep Aphro's keepsake or should I switch it. I'm still doing the ||Aspect of Hera||

[analog radish]

change

[fair inlet]

Should I unlock 2 talents in the mirror or get the power glove weapon thingy?

[ruby mural]

it doesnt do anything after you have used it once

[raw coral]

Wrong

[analog radish]

its god-keepsaks are basicaly useles after the first time

[raw coral]

It still increases rarity for aphro boons

[ruby mural]

not worth it

[polar smelt]

unlock all weapons first

[ruby mural]

still not a good enough buff

[fast gyro]

What should I switch to, if I were to then?

[raw coral]

It is sometimes

[ruby mural]

what keepsakes do you have?

[fast gyro]

All the god keep sakes are level one cuz I havne't used them much

I have all of them

I'm running god mode so I have almost everything unlocked I just have zero game sence

[ruby mural]

what build are you going for? if you are

[fast gyro]

Aspect of Hera, I'm using Crush Shot

[ruby mural]

so cast bow?

right

[fast gyro]

Yes

[raw coral]

You could go for Chaos, hoping for more shards or cast damage boons

[ruby mural]

go for something cast related

[analog radish]

yes chaos

[ruby mural]

artemis has a legendary boon that gives +2 cast stones

[orchid forum]

how kill meg fast?

[ruby mural]

just do it

thats how

[orchid forum]

B(

[fast gyro]

Okay. I think I'll go with Chaos

[orchid forum]

chaos suckk

curse

[analog radish]

https://tenor.com/view/にゃんこ大戦争-超ネコ祭-battle-cats-god-cat-gif-12671048

[ruby mural]

chaos op

[odd monolith]

|| Aspect of Guan Yu || is good right? Planning on getting it

[ruby mural]

its not

the hp lowering is not worth it for the dmg you get

[raw coral]

Depends on your play style

[ruby mural]

it barely does more dmg than the other spears

true

if you dont take dmg then its better of course

but it lowers all your hp stuff

healing

hearts

[odd monolith]

I suck at evading soooo

[ruby mural]

dont use it then

go for aspect of achillies

instead

[odd monolith]

Got it. Thanks!

[ruby mural]

with achillies you can dodge using the q as well so more safe

[cinder cliff]

does chaos portal count as a room towards the boss

or however that works lol

[raw coral]

It does, unless you take it right before entering the final shop

[cinder cliff]

👀

[raw coral]

Wait, maybe I missunderstood

What do you mean

[cinder cliff]

you get to the boss in how many rooms?

[raw coral]

Oh, yea so the boss rooms occur after only a certain number, can't recall exactly, I think it's 12, 24, 35

[ruby mural]

i think its 10 rooms before the boss if im not mistaken

[raw coral]

But if you take a chaos gate in the room prior to the last shop, you add another room to that counter

[cinder cliff]

yeah so the chaos portal counts as one yeah?

yeah i just did and took a massive movement speed penalty before the boss

[raw coral]

It's like you're extending the biome

[analog radish]

yes if ur good

hard to use

[polar smelt]

oh god I've been to elysium... more times than I'd care to admit, and I just found out that with the ! vendor you need to ||read his name in the lore book||

[analog radish]

no its like 12 then 10 then 14 i think

[analog radish]

ok?

[ruby mural]

okay

[paper zephyr]

I hate the bow

[placid inlet]

dash strike moment

[azure quarry]

it's not bad, had a build where I did 600 damage per power shot and also shot 2 arrows

[fluid yoke]

it depends onhow you play it

its not for everyone though

[ruby mural]

i had a build with my chiron were each of the volley arrows did 300-800 dmg per hit

[azure quarry]

woa

[analog radish]

guys

u know

how people say

use doom with chaos shild

= good

i mean

if ur gonna do that

just use doom

on basic bow

and u get the same efect but more projectiles

i just did a run

with chiron

bow

and doom on special

[ruby mural]

you need the doom effect doom stacking and 0.5 sec longer before your doom procs for maximum dmg

[analog radish]

with doom stacking boon

big damage = get

[ruby mural]

meh you get more with crit build

[analog radish]

yes i did have that

[fluid yoke]

i had doom stacking with

uh spread adamant rail

heroic level 3 curse of pain

[analog radish]

i wanted to try someitng new

[odd monolith]

Picked too many Poms now I feel [Redacted] will break my streak

[fluid yoke]

it was fun

[ruby mural]

fair enough

[cinder cliff]

any of the calls should be used only on full gauge?

[ruby mural]

aphrodite

[analog radish]

kinda

[ruby mural]

artemis

[analog radish]

yes

[azure quarry]

artemis greater call is very nice

[analog radish]

yes

[ruby mural]

too bad its not good on 1 bar

[analog radish]

its fine

its like

100dmg

and crit

[ruby mural]

i like zeus and dionysus because they dont need greater call

[analog radish]

yes

dio is nice call

and erm

what her name

[ruby mural]

zeus deals about 800dmg with 1 bar

[analog radish]

er i fro got

winter lady

[normal viper]

had such an insane run with the bow

[analog radish]

||grandma||

[ruby mural]

spoiler

[normal viper]

was dealing like 500-600 dmg per shot

[analog radish]

what her name

[ruby mural]

||demeter||

[normal viper]

800 if i dash striked

[analog radish]

||demiter yes||

[ruby mural]

spoiler

[analog radish]

jesus dud

i gonna do it

[ruby mural]

||demeter|| is post elysium

[analog radish]

no

[ruby mural]

which is a spoiler

[analog radish]

she is when u get to surface

[normal viper]

if you wanna discuss the story do it in #h1-story-discussion

[analog radish]

for first time

[ruby mural]

okay then

still its post elysium

🕶️

[analog radish]

dud

[normal viper]

thats like saying that she is post tartarus

lmao

[ruby mural]

yeah

[analog radish]

u can berity see that emogi

[ruby mural]

she is that as well

but light mode is garbage

[analog radish]

yes

[ruby mural]

so you'll have to deal with it

[analog radish]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-lightmode-gif-18450013

[ruby mural]

yeah

[cinder cliff]

lol

[analog radish]

https://tenor.com/view/redditors-redditors-when-light-theme-gif-19452899

[subtle granite]

brother why are you doing this

[odd monolith]

What am I looking at

[polar smelt]

just a child spamming nonsense

[analog radish]

ah yes

2 gifs=spam

[ruby mural]

do one more and ill count it as spam ;)

https://tenor.com/view/hades-zagreus-gif-19103844

[subtle granite]

👀

[placid inlet]

👀

[analog radish]

erm was that supposed to be a snarky reply or something

[ruby mural]

who knows

;)

[subtle granite]

;)

[analog radish]

[subtle granite]

donkey my lad, i'm really happy you're always here now

[ruby mural]

of course i am

i got meg's scene btw

[subtle granite]

although the new players channel is getting hogged

[ruby mural]

wait i might have already told you that

[subtle granite]

yep :D

[ruby mural]

well anyways

[subtle granite]

and i'm really happy for that, did you need help from support?

or did it just happen?

[ruby mural]

it just happened after 105 runs in total

[subtle granite]

omfg

[ruby mural]

i might have just been behind on meg dialogue

since everything else just overlapped it or something

[subtle granite]

trutru

[ruby mural]

when does dusa's bond get forged btw?

[subtle granite]

there are those 30 runs where the dialogue pool is just overfilled

[ruby mural]

i got her to max hearts

after the locked one

[subtle granite]

||oh she will come to your room to talk to you|| too i believe

[ruby mural]

ah like than

[subtle granite]

that last talk is the forging moment

not like than necessarily but just to privately talk :)

[ruby mural]

yeah yeah i know she'll ||reject me||

[leaden whale]

Is there a "best weapon"?

[subtle granite]

nope

[ruby mural]

not necessarily

[subtle granite]

all personal preference

[ruby mural]

yup

[subtle granite]

there are just some aspects people agree on more than for others

[ruby mural]

like most people agree that rail is on the bottom cough cough

[analog radish]

ah

i also

[subtle granite]

coughcough

[placid inlet]

TRUE

[analog radish]

need dusa diologe

when she talk to u

[subtle granite]

i got tagged in somebody flexing that rail is good

[analog radish]

||in room||

[subtle granite]

i was so pissed lol

[ruby mural]

i have grown to like talos a little more

[subtle granite]

like leave me alone 😂

[ruby mural]

and i have started to dislike the hidden fists

[subtle granite]

talos feels so nice

:O

[analog radish]

😦

[placid inlet]

talos is great for fists

[subtle granite]

how that?

[ruby mural]

idk

[subtle granite]

the chop?

[placid inlet]

it just feels fun

[subtle granite]

the damage?

[ruby mural]

i might have to give it another run

[leaden whale]

How do i unlock the locked weapon versions?

[subtle granite]

do that :)

[leaden whale]

The ones that you cant see

[ruby mural]

i do really like aspect of ||demeter|| tho

[subtle granite]

hidden aspects?

[fast gyro]

... I lost that run with ||Aspect of Hera|| I literally ended up getting some really good boons that give bonus's on boon rarity, then I literally got nothing else. Like I had no boons besides Crush Shot

[ruby mural]

oof

[analog radish]

some one help me

[fast gyro]

Like I literally got a Legendary Boon for Poseidon that gives better boon rarity, and after that I got zero boons. Lol.

[ruby mural]

ist that a duo boon?

[cinder cliff]

is it random when the ||faun bag|| will spawn?

[ruby mural]

from poseidon that makes all boons spawn at epic+

[analog radish]

does nix fireing dusa have anyting to do with the ||romance ||thing?

[ruby mural]

his legendary boon is fishing

[cinder cliff]

yeah its dio+poseidon

[ruby mural]

yeah

i like how i always get that one when i finished in ||styx||

[subtle granite]

if you mean the last weapons: you need to buy every weapon before they appear one run after buying all (so buy spear, shield, bow; go on a run the next weapon will appear, buy that and the last weapon will appear)
if you mean just aspects: buy all weapons, go on a run and when you come back your equipped weapon will have new blood glow -> aspects baybe
if you mean hidden aspects: there is a pinned comment in #h1-story-discussion about it

[fast gyro]

I may be misremembering but it just gave me better boons It may have been epic and my brain sucks

And I got zero boons besides one artemis one that had nothing to do with Cast

[analog radish]

==================(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((8

[ruby mural]

artemis' legendary boon is great for cast builds

+2 more stones is fantastic

[subtle granite]

do you mean the poseidon-dionysus duo boon?

poseidons legendaries only give fish and more knockback damage against bosses

[ruby mural]

ill do a run with the hidden fists and see if i like it more

[subtle granite]

do that :)

[fast gyro]

No sorry I misremembered I think it may have been a different one. WAIT I remembered sorry I got a really good chaos one that gives better boon rarity and then I got the Poseidon one that gives better resource drop mix up in my brain

[ruby mural]

yes i will

brains are a problem

why cant we just remove them

;)

[karmic hamlet]

second legendary isn't the knockback damage against bosses

[polar smelt]

brains are the problem donkey, that's why ya boy still is being a pain
https://i.imgur.com/IZORR42.png

[karmic hamlet]

isnt it something like knocking back twice?

[fast gyro]

Second Wave I think

[ruby mural]

imma bout to come to yo house and spend it for you Michael

[analog radish]

guys

does the

[subtle granite]

ahh second wave

[analog radish]

grow closer with gods

[subtle granite]

thats a horrible one, no wonder i thought it was the other

mb

[analog radish]

involv giving ambrosia

or jsut nector

[ruby mural]

you need to unlock most of the gods' favor

so yes giving ambrosia

[polar smelt]

I maxed chaos, now to pray it's a special run

[karmic hamlet]

yea i kinda dont get the point of second wave

[analog radish]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[karmic hamlet]

unless maybe during the knockback they take rupture damage? idk

[subtle granite]

i think you need at least 3 gods on max hearts

[subtle granite]

but still weird legendary

[quartz condor]

can someone tell me if this still seems reasonable starting point for build synergies? https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/j3egy4/allpurpose_weapongod_pairing_reference_guide/

[ruby mural]

dont worry after that one is done ||you get a quest that gives you 20 ambrosia||

||which only involves talking to all the gods||

[karmic hamlet]

meh i'd say its a bit outdated and also forgets that clearly the optimal dash is just athena or artemis

[analog radish]

huh nice

but

whats the use for 20ambrosia

[quartz condor]

athena dash still best dash regardless?

[analog radish]

if i altedy gave gods

[ruby mural]

you'll find a use

[analog radish]

erm

give cerberus

yes

[tropic warren]

Im actively making it to 3rd level but ive lnly made it to the boss once cause hydra drains my death defiances please help

[ruby mural]

do i pick rending claws as hammer upgrade?

[karmic hamlet]

also it doesn't work in some cases (like suggesting dio for rail, why would you pick anything other than zeus)

[subtle granite]

there are multiple issues with it, but it is an ok base

some of the synergies dont mix and leave out specific upgrades; i would still recommend trying on your own mostly

[ruby mural]

the hammer upgrades i got to pick from is explosive upper flying cutter and rending claws

[karmic hamlet]

make space when you are taking out heads so that you've got room to breathe @tropic warren

[subtle granite]

meow

[ruby mural]

which one do i pick fists expert artemis' cat

[karmic hamlet]

flying cutter carried me through my first fists run it was really nice

[rich cave]

Try to get long knuckle if you can

That’s the best fists hammer by far

[sly vigil]

Breaching Cross

[rich cave]

That too ^

[ruby mural]

its between those 3 for ||aspect of gilgamesh||

[subtle granite]

as a tip: the big hydra head cant touch you if you stand close to the bottom, use that to just watch his attacks for a little bit and use the obstacles or athena deflect to be safe from projectiles

[tropic warren]

Bottom of the stage?

[rich cave]

Depending on what weapon you have you can stay out of its range

[subtle granite]

once you really get a good look you can see how much empty time there is inbetween attacks

[rich cave]

If you use spear you can just spam special

[subtle granite]

ye, by the tip of the island

he cant hit you there with lunge or headslam at all

try one run to focus on watching/dodging him than do damage

you have all the time in the world to get used to his attacks

[rich cave]

Try to get a cast boon and then just immediately throw all your casts into it then stay out of its range and attack if you can or time attacks to not get hit

If you have boiling blood mirror upgrade you do more damage when your casts are in it

[subtle granite]

well you'd need a cast that goes into the enemy too

aphro is too short ranged, trippy shot and ares beyblade just hover

[subtle granite]

excuse moi but wha

[ruby mural]

hmm

[subtle granite]

since when am i fists expert 😂

[ruby mural]

idk

you always talk about fists so i decided why not

[analog radish]

bruh some dud sent me a friend recuest

[polar smelt]

hey donkey, double strike or high voltage?

I'd assume double strike since chaos already has huge aoe by nature

[analog radish]

double

wait

[subtle granite]

spear is my bae, i just talk about fists because they are fun

[analog radish]

r u using zeus on chaos

[sly vigil]

Double

[analog radish]

thats not good idea

[sly vigil]

Zeus on Chaos is fine

[subtle granite]

^

[analog radish]

because zeus has cooldown

[polar smelt]

seems to be working fine atm

[analog radish]

huat

[ruby mural]

if its working fine dont change it ;)

[subtle granite]

the cooldown is 0.2secs

[sly vigil]

Internal cooldown on single target

[analog radish]

yes

[subtle granite]

you wont feel it at all

[analog radish]

and yes

so for like bosses and stuf

it not so good

[subtle granite]

only with something like chiron bow

[ruby mural]

do i get lightning strike on the attack for ||aspect of gilgamesh||?

[analog radish]

so

huat

[sly vigil]

Well Furies melts no katter what you do

[subtle granite]

it's fine let them have fun

[analog radish]

yes

but

once

[sly vigil]

Hydra is multiple target

[analog radish]

i used zeus on chaos

and some dud yelled at me

so

idk

[subtle granite]

everybody yells at you

[sly vigil]

Well that dud is a dumbass

[ruby mural]

xd

[subtle granite]

xd

[analog radish]

[sly vigil]

Though tbf best practices kinda change overtime tbh

Poseidon Dash used to be the butt of the joke

[analog radish]

[sly vigil]

Nowadays you can't talk smack about it anymore

[analog radish]

why

[ruby mural]

if you do you'll get smacked

[analog radish]

huh?

i mean

i like it

[sly vigil]

It's a good dash

[ruby mural]

good choice

[rich cave]

Poseidon dash is good

[subtle granite]

as long as you have fun, do what build you want, just dont talk to dps profs they will talk your ear off

[sly vigil]

No kap

[rich cave]

It’s a close second to divine dash

[subtle granite]

poseidon dash is fun

[sly vigil]

Before 1.0 it was truly ass

[rich cave]

Especially with fists

[subtle granite]

really?

interesting

[sly vigil]

Not like that though

[rich cave]

Zeus attack + Poseidon dash melts every enemy

[analog radish]

everyone is like Athena dash amassing

but i mean its good

but not that good

[rich cave]

Yes it is

[analog radish]

i would say possidon dash>athena

[ruby mural]

athena is better overall

[analog radish]

no

[ruby mural]

you get defense

[analog radish]

possidon give

u

[tropic warren]

Need me another flurry shot bow run, could for sure get past 3rd boss this time

[analog radish]

damage

[rich cave]

It’s good for idiots like me who always dash into projectiles

[analog radish]

with dash

[sly vigil]

Hot takes everywhere

It's ok

That's what discussion is for ig

[ruby mural]

if you suck at evading poseidon dash wont help you at all

against bosses

or anything

athena gives you that extra protection

with deflect

[analog radish]

ok but think about this

[rich cave]

I’m just used to having divine dash so I dash directly into projectiles to use them as an attack

[ruby mural]

yeah

[tropic warren]

I barely get athena boons

[analog radish]

with posidon dash u can do an extra 60 ish damage when u dash

[ruby mural]

yeah

[rich cave]

Keepsake

[tropic warren]

I get mostly dionysus and ares boons

[ruby mural]

dont get me wrong i like poseidon dash

[tropic warren]

Oh

[cinder cliff]

gods' pride or legacy?

[ruby mural]

i just think athena's dash is a bit better overall

[rich cave]

Legacy

[ruby mural]

legacy all the way baby

[sly vigil]

Both depending on build

[analog radish]

the one that makes u get duos

[ruby mural]

which is legacy

[cinder cliff]

duo

and legendary

[ruby mural]

duo and legendary over epic any day

[rich cave]

The difference between rare and epic is nothing compared to difference between epic and legendary

[ruby mural]

legendary boons are whole other set of boons

[sly vigil]

So many hot takes =.=

[analog radish]

yes

[subtle granite]

:O thats some great personal fairy god fathers

[sly vigil]

Both talents have its use.

[analog radish]

boon rarity isn't that important

[ruby mural]

true

[analog radish]

i mean

[sly vigil]

If you are short on darkness ig Legacy is fine

[subtle granite]

it still looks prettier in purple than white

[sly vigil]

But don't discount Pride

[ruby mural]

there is barely any difference between common and heroic tbh

[cinder cliff]

what happens if you don't clear in the time limit from that one ||heat condition||

[analog radish]

bruh

[subtle granite]

aesthetics

[sly vigil]

Late game Pride > Legacy for various reasons

[subtle granite]

you die

[cinder cliff]

[analog radish]

heroic is like double damage and stuf of common

[sly vigil]

You take ||5 damage per s||

[placid inlet]

you straight up die

[subtle granite]

your health gets reduced until all DDs are gone

[subtle granite]

poof

[ruby mural]

dont worry ||9 min is a hell of a lot of time||

[subtle granite]

it really is

[placid inlet]

in real life too

[analog radish]

wait

[subtle granite]

if you clear under 40mins constantly you're so fine

[analog radish]

u lose ur dds?

[cinder cliff]

but it's per stage?

[subtle granite]

yes

[cinder cliff]

does end boss + end stage count as one?

[ruby mural]

per floor yes

yes

[subtle granite]

and the bonus minutes get added

[cinder cliff]

o

[subtle granite]

so if you clear tart in 7 mins you have 9+2mins for asphodel

[ruby mural]

so you can end up with a 20 min at the end boss if you're going semi quick

[tropic warren]

They have my fav boons so ye

[subtle granite]

congrats!

[ruby mural]

i usually have around 18-22min when i reach ||styx||

[subtle granite]

the rng gods blessed ya :D

[tropic warren]

Ares supports how i usually play which is trying to go as fast as i can

[subtle granite]

lol

[ruby mural]

meh not that big of a fan of ||aspect of gilgamesh||

i just dont like the whole needing to dash special to get that bonus dmg

ill stick to aspect of ||demeter|| and aspect of talos

[subtle granite]

okidokes

hidden fists is fun when you get more dashes from hermes

[ruby mural]

yeah

you get hella dashes

already 3 base

[subtle granite]

just choochoo lads, time for your demise

[ruby mural]

and if you get the epic dashes from hermes you will be dashing all around

[subtle granite]

thomas the tank engine but with claws

[ruby mural]

i feel like the hidden fists are good with ruthless reflex

because you already have the base 3

dashes

[subtle granite]

hmm

maybe

the dash would be probably too choppy tho

[ruby mural]

maybe

ruthless reflex is a gamble

but if you get the extra dashes from hermes then you're set

[subtle granite]

hermes dashes is one of the only boons i want from him but he never gives em to me

my hermes rng is bs

[ruby mural]

same

but when i run chiron i really love seeing that special speed

[polar smelt]

It's a tiny bit disconcerting hearing chaos laugh every few encounters

[ruby mural]

xd

[subtle granite]

xD

i had such a heartattack when that first happened i

cause it never happened to me in 250+h

[ruby mural]

xd

[subtle granite]

when you never go to chaos sigh

Breaching Cross Your Dash-Strike pierces foes and deals +900% damage to Armor
on hidden fists would be INSANE

[polar smelt]

hey donkey, y'know how you automatically avoid trials against posiedon & aphro, what if they are the two gods

[keen oracle]

Chaos be like “you have paid health to come here, now take a negative effect for a few encounters, than I will finally give you a benefit”

Jk I know their boons are really powerful

[analog radish]

nonono

chaos be like

[ruby mural]

then you pick poseidon michael

[sand crag]

Chaos’s keepsake will let you enter Chaos without taking damage.

[ruby mural]

poseidon is the worst god to dodge

[analog radish]

u wasted 21 health befor the boss fight

i will now grant u

no chaos fish

[sand crag]

It’s pretty niche, though.

Doesn’t really seem that worth it.

[analog radish]

and backstab damage +15%

[sly vigil]

ngl I don't like Chaos boons

They aren't bad, I just don't like them

[sand crag]

I like the ones that boost my attack by 30–40%.

Don’t care for the others too much.

[analog radish]

depends on ur build

if ur going cast

[leaden whale]

Can somebody dm me what the hidden aspect of the shield will do?

[analog radish]

then chaos is a must

[sand crag]

Oh, that reminds me.

[ruby mural]

oh shii i have 666 coins

father is going to get me now

[analog radish]

oof

ok

[uneven ledge]

the boons that increase the value of darkness and gemstones you get are also nice

[analog radish]

spend some

to get to 420

[subtle granite]

||https://hades.gamepedia.com/Shield_of_Chaos#Aspect_of_Beowulf_Moveset ||

[analog radish]

haha funny number

[subtle granite]

honestly just go to the wiki for those

[analog radish]

just notised

[sand crag]

I’ve realized that Ares’s Cast is terrible for giving your Bloodstone to your enemies.

[analog radish]

the shild

wouldn't be very efective

[uneven ledge]

42069 darkness 😎

[analog radish]

if it was a real shild

[sand crag]

I’m now partial to Artemis’s Cast because it makes deliberately giving your Bloodstone to enemies super easy.

[analog radish]

because of al the decorations and stuf it has

[leaden whale]

@subtle granite ty

[uneven ledge]

basically any cast that like doesn't directly go at your enemies can't be lodged in them

[subtle granite]

sure thing

[sand crag]

Unfortunate.

I’ve grown to love Boiling Blood.

[analog radish]

huat is that

[sand crag]

If your enemy has a Bloodstone, they take more damage.

[subtle granite]

imagine if the end boss would fire ||alectos|| sawblades instead of the projectiles 👀

[analog radish]

ahha

that

yes its good

[ruby mural]

nah artemis' cat he would spawn ||alecto||

he would throw ||alecto|| at you

[sand crag]

I also don’t really see the appeal of regenerating Bloodstones. I like having three that I can use back to back, and collecting them is easy.

When you regenerate a Bloodstone, does it pull it out of the enemy?

[ruby mural]

making her mad

[subtle granite]

and she goes full rage?

hell nah

[ruby mural]

mega full rage extreme ulta 5g

[subtle granite]

no

[sly vigil]

Yeah it still count for Exit Wound purposes, but not Poseidon Sword

[subtle granite]

it doesnt pull out immediately i mean

[sand crag]

Hm. What’s the maximum number of Bloodstones you can put in an enemy?

[subtle granite]

i have done 4 into skelly

[ruby mural]

that depends how many cast stones you have

[subtle granite]

you can train on him with the mirror aspects

with the regenerating cast donkey

[ruby mural]

cant you still get more from artemis?

and chaos

[subtle granite]

of course but baseline

[ruby mural]

ah okay

[floral nacelle]

And from chaos and temporary ones from wells

I’ve seen people go up to 7

[subtle granite]

oh i thought 5 was max

in one enemy i mean

can you fire all 7 into one enemy? 🤔

[leaden whale]

Is there a way to "farm" titan blood??

[subtle granite]

yes

[ruby mural]

well chaos loves me

[subtle granite]

clear the game

[ruby mural]

he has given me 2 boons that boosts my special dmg and im using chiron

[subtle granite]

get a higher streak

[leaden whale]

Idk what that means i'm dum

[subtle granite]

if you clear there is a number below that

thats your streak number

how many times you won in a run

[cinder cliff]

if i keep a keepsake that guarantees a god to spawn and keep that on the next floor, will i get another guaranteed boon or its one use only?

[leaden whale]

pretty sure its only one use although i dont know

[ruby mural]

1 use only

after that it only buffs the chance for rare boons

[leaden whale]

is aspect of chaos good

[ruby mural]

yes

[leaden whale]

wait, it buffs rarity FOR THE WHOLE TIME?

[subtle granite]

one use, look at the number below the keepsake

[ruby mural]

yes

[sand crag]

I like Aspect of Chaos a lot. It’s my go-to weapon.

[ruby mural]

my go to is aspect of chiron ;)

[sand crag]

I’ll probably use Aspect of Zeus once its damage output isn’t pitiful.

[leaden whale]

mine is aspect of zeus

[subtle granite]

achilles spear

[leaden whale]

if chiron was less "spammy-spam" i would use it mainly

[placid inlet]

funny achilles spear

[sand crag]

Also, Aspect of Talos makes the Twin Fists more usable for me even though I don’t quite get its visual effect.

[leaden whale]

So I'm coming from Issac

How's the replay value of Hades in comparison to Issac

The builds, bosses and such

[uneven ledge]

the dps with thunder flourish is great

[leaden whale]

How on earth am i supposed to get 3 titan blood

Halp

[uneven ledge]

use different weapons

[flint pulsar]

beat the furies with different weapons

[leaden whale]

I already used all 6

[flint pulsar]

trading from the wretched broker

fighting ||hades||

||bounties from heat||

[leaden whale]

Ok listen@flint pulsar

[ruby mural]

dont say his name

spoiler

[leaden whale]

How do i censor this?????

Sry!!!

[flint pulsar]

||chance of being able to buy for ~1200 obols at charons shop in the place before the hades fight||

you do || at the start and end of message

[leaden whale]

Are there plans for any new dlc consider supergiant doesn't do dlc?

||Test||

Ok works

I feel I'd like a few more weapons

Sorry again

[ruby mural]

no worries

[flint pulsar]

sall g

[subtle granite]

no new info on that, hades is so far the dlc-friendliest of sgg games as far as i've seen and heard but yeh

[leaden whale]

Do i get titan blood every time i beat ||Hades||?

[dry wraith]

yup

[leaden whale]

We did get the winter dlc kinda

@dry wraith Rlly????

Do i get other stuff too?

So it doesn't seem strange to get more

Yes you get stuff when you beat the final boss

Every time

Dayum

I didn't beat him once xD

[sand crag]

Why is the Minotaur is Elysium? He wasn’t a very heroic dude. 🤔

[cunning sparrow]

I always use up all my death defiances with ||Theseus||

[leaden whale]

Good question

[dry wraith]

nope. apart from advancement, but you can get gems if you finish the contractor request

[polar smelt]

he explains it in conversation, something about he was slain and redeemed by thessus and now serves him without fault

[leaden whale]

Should i focus on killing ||Hades|| first or should i focus on unlocking the ||hidden weapon aspects||?

I've been thinking of getting the switch version

Is it any good

[polar smelt]

||you're going to need multiple multiple multiple hades kills before you can unlock the hidden aspects||

[leaden whale]

With the FPS drops and the stuttering compared to pc

[dry wraith]

I play on switch

[sly vigil]

I heard Switch version is quite stable

[fluid crown]

on the 4th level you have to ||go through all the rooms|| ?

[leaden whale]

But i already unlocked the ||Guan yu aspect|| i just need 3 titan blood

[ruby mural]

no

[dry wraith]

I think PC is prob easier though but havent tried it yet.

[sly vigil]

Nope, just until you find what you need.

[ruby mural]

just until you find the ||satyr sack||

[polar smelt]

||there's food for cerberus at the end of one of then, just random||

[sand crag]

I have the Switch version, and it’s perfectly fine to me. I don’t have the keenest eye for FPS and such, though.

[leaden whale]

@dry wraith I can only play docked

[dry wraith]

You get used to it

[leaden whale]

Lol okay

[uneven ledge]

just trade some ambrosia for titan blood, you're probably not gonna need it until much later

[leaden whale]

My joycons are broken

[leaden whale]

Ok, ty

[dry wraith]

know how that feels. My R stick is broken rn so I cant manually reload the Rail lol

[fluid crown]

one of the rooms was so sketchy, i lost all 4 of my death defiances at once xd

[polar smelt]

[leaden whale]

Miney drifts

[dry wraith]

oh thats gonna be super tough down the line

[leaden whale]

And I'm not giving them 90 goddamned euros

[dry wraith]

as the game only gets progressively harder

[leaden whale]

So I bought the wired one

[dry wraith]

nice

even better

[leaden whale]

But it only works when docked

[sand crag]

Can’t you remap reload to CL?

From CR, I mean, since your right stick is broken.

[leaden whale]

So no toilet play😩

Which is why I got the switch

[sand crag]

Playing video games on the toilet scares me.

[ruby mural]

why

you afraid you'll fall into the toilet?

[leaden whale]

Not if you have those cosy Japanese ones

They're wonderful

[sand crag]

Slightly. It’s also just unsanitary to me.

[leaden whale]

Worth it 1000%

[sand crag]

Then again, I wash my hands every time before I play video games, so I’m a bit of a neat freak.

[leaden whale]

You know there's still bacteria on it right

[sand crag]

Yeah. I just don’t want to dirty my controllers.

It’s psychological more than anything else, I think.

[leaden whale]

My colleagues are mostly all like that

Philosophers and mathematicians are weird

[cobalt patrol]

should i play hades on controller

[leaden whale]

Yes

[ruby mural]

i like playing it on keyboard

[cobalt patrol]

is it a lot easier?

[sand crag]

I also play video games standing up because it’s more comfortable for me, which I’ve been told is highly unusual.

[ruby mural]

idk

havent played it with controller

[leaden whale]

I work, read and play so

I can't stand for 5h

Well I'm disabled I can't really stand at all

But how does one stand for 5h

[sly vigil]

By not locking their knees

Or you pass out

[sand crag]

Beats me. I’ve played video games for 6–8 hours in a row before, and I was standing up pretty much the entire time.

Like I said, I just do it.

It doesn’t tire me out for whatever reason.

[leaden whale]

Even really high APM things like

Do i have to get the ||GY Aspect|| before i can get the other ||hidden aspects||?

StarCraft

[sand crag]

But I spend a lot of time on my feet.

[sly vigil]

Correct

[leaden whale]

And wow raiding

Man that seems so strange

Is the ||GY Aspect|| good?

[sly vigil]

It's good yeah. A bit rough without much investment though. You are very fragile

[ruby mural]

if you dont take dmg its good

[leaden whale]

Ok

[ruby mural]

is it better than spear of achillies no

[leaden whale]

How do i get this one?

[ruby mural]

and you dont need to buy it to get the other hidden aspects

the spear of achillies is the spear under the normal one

[leaden whale]

Oh ok

[ruby mural]

if you are really good at not taking dmg then of course the hidden spear is very good

[leaden whale]

I have to have it unlocked tho right?

[ruby mural]

but at lvl 1 it reduces all hp related stuff by 75%

you dont need to unlock it no

your total hp reduced your healing reduced hearts reduced

fountains reduced

[leaden whale]

Damn

[ruby mural]

so you're a glass cannon when using it

you deal a lot of dmg but you have like no hp

[fathom crown]

No, just in the list

[leaden whale]

So i only have to have the ||GY|| aspect in the list, i dont have to buy it to unlock the other hidden aspects?

[ruby mural]

oh yeah its just the life total and life gain which is basically everything that has with life to do

you dont have to buy it

you just need it

to be available for purchase

[leaden whale]

Yea i already have it in my list

[fathom crown]

Yes. I have not bought the aspect you mention, but have unlocked other hidden aspects

[ruby mural]

now you can get any of the other hidden aspects

[leaden whale]

Ok, ty

[ruby mural]

there is no order in which you get them

[leaden whale]

Ok dope, thx for the help

[ruby mural]

no problem

[leaden whale]

This makes things so much easier for me... I wanted to get the hidden aspect for the shield and i thought i had to buy the one for the spear first

[fathom crown]

Incidentally, hidden bow is bizarre. It's like ||a siege weapon, honestly, huge and slow and powerful. Weird secondary, but I had a clear that mostly used Artemis primary for enormous, disgusting crits.||

[north quail]

what do you guys use more: special or cast?

speaking about boons

[quartz condor]

depends on weapon, but i generally go special more

[tight ember]

it kinda depends.

i prefer the festive fog + aegis special ||-aspect of zeus.||

[analog radish]

guy

s

[leaden whale]

wrong channel

[sacred badger]

Noob question and I only started yesterday so bare with me, but I've beaten meg and have titan blood, how do I use this to upgrade my weapon please?

[subtle granite]

welcome to hades!
you can use blood after having bought every weapon :)

you just need to buy the last, go on a run and when you're back you can upgrade your weapons :D

[sacred badger]

Oh [expletive deleted] I have to buy all six weapons?

[subtle granite]

yes

[sacred badger]

I was saying keys for the mirror

[subtle granite]

you will get more keys if you find your perfect weapon dont worry :)

[fluid yoke]

i would say

[errant bramble]

Make sure to always do the key doors with a Skull on them early

[sacred badger]

Thanks for the help.

[fluid yoke]

get the weapons before the mirror upgrades

[subtle granite]

generally most agree on weapon>mirror for the key usage

yeah

[fluid yoke]

thats what i did

mainly because i didnt realise you could upgrade the mirror at first

but regardless

[subtle granite]

lol

[sacred badger]

Ok no worries. I feel utterly useless already seeing people already having escaped and I'm on run 27 and only just got beat for the diamond encounter.

[ruby mural]

take your time

[subtle granite]

oh you're fine, anything between 20 and 150 attempts before first clear is absolutely ok

[ruby mural]

yeah

everyone learns at different paces

[fluid yoke]

i only escpaed by attempt 30

[subtle granite]

everyone has different skills

[fluid yoke]

don't worry about it take your time

[ruby mural]

yeah

[subtle granite]

speedrunning comes later :D

[ruby mural]

yup

[fluid yoke]

theres a learning curve and it takes everyone different ways and amount sof time to approach it

[subtle granite]

exactly, and who knows, maybe you're gonna get your first win with a new weapon you buy :D

[fluid yoke]

i won completel unexpectedly

for the first time

[ruby mural]

once you get your first win getting the second one will be much easier because then you will know a little more about each boss fight

getting to know their moveset

[fluid yoke]

yeah

once you win for the first time itll get easier

at winning

[subtle granite]

even once you get up to the final boss without winning it'll get so much easier since you will be better able to prepare

[ruby mural]

yeah

you will always learn something

[subtle granite]

i wonder how different other roguelikes/lites are

i just realized that i do have a roguelike in my steam library but it feels so different

[tropic warren]

Forthe 3rd main boss ||can i crowd on minotaur than focus on the hero whos name i forgot?||

[subtle granite]

yes

[sacred patio]

yeah, thats usually the best strat

[subtle granite]

kick his ass

[sacred badger]

One more from you lovely lot when does weapon five and six become available?

[sacred patio]

unless you can group them together and DPS them down

[ruby mural]

you get the last 2 weapons once you unlock the first 4

[sacred patio]

@sacred badger 5 when you get the first 4, and 6 when you get the first 5

[sacred badger]

Nice thank you all

[subtle granite]

you need to have the first 4 ones and go on a run, the fifth will appear, buy it, go on a run (any weapon dun matter), 6th will appear

[sacred patio]

you have to go on another run for them to become availible

[subtle granite]

and afterwards the blood fun will beginn :D

[ruby mural]

blood will be shed

atleast thats what ares likes

[subtle granite]

hopefully just ||vermin|| blood

[fluid yoke]

you won't have much blood in the beginning

but don't worry

[subtle granite]

can you really call the black ooze out of tart etc enemies blood 🤔

[ruby mural]

it is the blood of them so i guess

[subtle granite]

🤔

blooze

[ruby mural]

yeah

a mix

[subtle granite]

shood

shade and blood

hmmmmm

[ruby mural]

hmm

well the hammer upgrades i got does not fit well with ||aspect of arthur||

i got all special oriented hammers -_-

[subtle granite]

;_;

[summer bolt]

Hey fam. New here just wanted to say hi. Love this game. Will be seeing me around lol

[subtle granite]

lots of dash specials my friend

[subtle granite]

welcome to hades!

[summer bolt]

Also new to discord. This is my first

Ha

[subtle granite]

may the gods (and daddydaed) give you swift and safe runs

[ruby mural]

well i got breaching slash and piercing wave but those dont fit with ||arthur||that well

[subtle granite]

piercing wave is gucci

[summer bolt]

I gravitate toward dash centric builds. Wanna go fast i guess

[subtle granite]

oooh

[ruby mural]

an early speedrunner i see

[subtle granite]

a new medic/bablo

[summer bolt]

I just did my 5th escape at 17:26

Spear zagreus

Just watched medics recent run. Crazy

[ruby mural]

how many attempts do you have?

[summer bolt]

Id like to dip my feet into speedrunning. Just started readibg about it

35 currentky. 1st eacape on 28

[ruby mural]

pretty good

above average 1st escape

[summer bolt]

Im a scrub tho. Need more unlocked

[ruby mural]

just take your time

you will get everything after a little time

[subtle granite]

"take your time, speedrunner in the making"

[ruby mural]

shh

[summer bolt]

Yea its really fun and intricate. Loving it

[ruby mural]

you cant get everything in a few runs

it takes time

[summer bolt]

Yea thats part of the fun! Gradually building

[subtle granite]

aye

and experimenting

[ruby mural]

yeah

helllo my friend beyblade asterius

[subtle granite]

beyblades beyblades let it RIP

[summer bolt]

Is there more info on the discord on speedrunning?

[subtle granite]

there is a seperate speedrunning discord

i think it's pinned in #self-promotion ?

[summer bolt]

Ok ill look. Ty

[subtle granite]

have fun!

[ruby mural]

kinda want test out some modding xd

see how it is

[subtle granite]

do it 👀

[ruby mural]

just need to finish this run first

oh shii i have 2020 gems

not that cursed number

[subtle granite]

D:

sell them for keys

[reef shoal]

What is the point of keys if you bought every weapon and mirror of night upgrade?

[runic finch]

which weapon is the easiest to use and also progress through the game?

[reef shoal]

Bow

[errant bramble]

Bow probably has the highest learning curve?

Interesting you think is easiest

[runic finch]

I found aegis to be quite good tbh

[subtle granite]

cosmetics ;)

[reef shoal]

Yeah the shield is actually easier

[subtle granite]

and trading

[reef shoal]

it's borderline OP

but only with certain hammer upgrades

[runic finch]

wait this channel is no spoiler right?

ah yes it says in the title

[reef shoal]

namely the charge shot and faster rush

[runic finch]

think I might just spam with the aegis, idk blocking all hits seems op asf

[rich cave]

Shield is probably the easiest to use since it can block

[reef shoal]

Is the blade secret aspect any good?

[dry wraith]

Yup, just be wary of its slow attack

[runic finch]

I struggled a lot in elysium, hope it's not spoiler

[subtle granite]

it is so STRONG

it isnt dont worry :)

[runic finch]

the final boss was horribly op

[reef shoal]

final boss is a joke once you know how to dodge his attacks

[subtle granite]

tru

[runic finch]

ye but is there any way around having to fight 2?

[subtle granite]

but he can still be a pain if he shouts every two seconds

[rich cave]

||you can fight 3||

[runic finch]

wtf

[rich cave]

You’re talking about the final boss right

Not Elysium

[runic finch]

elysium

[subtle granite]

if you meet the bull in the mini boss encounter he will have less health

[runic finch]

but I don't consider it a big deal knowing what's towards the end

so w/e

ah ok

[subtle granite]

but else just focus one over the other

[runic finch]

not gonna lie, it was a struggle, nearly got it, but damn they hit hard

[slow loom]

Seconded. I started doing that and my life got so much easier.

[reef shoal]

I'm beginning to wean off divine dash and instead run poseidon dash

[dry wraith]

Poseidon Dash builds are fun

Get that Hermes boon and hidden fist and never attack again

[reef shoal]

I used to not like Poseidon boons as the knockback messed up my combos, but on certain weapons, his boons work great.

[dry wraith]

Yeah. Poseidons are iffy with certain things cuz of the knockback

But amazing with others

[reef shoal]

btw what's hidden fist?

also by hermes boon, you're referring to greatest reflex?

[dry wraith]

The hidden aspect of the fist

yup

[reef shoal]

Oh, aspect of ||Gilgamesh||

[dry wraith]

Yup. It grants extra dashes too

[reef shoal]

I've been running talos

[dry wraith]

Never stop dashing

Talos is nice

[reef shoal]

I love pushing enemies into walls and having them ruptured to death

[subtle granite]

hehe

or just force them onto the lava/traps

[dry wraith]

And just dashing around bosses until they die

Or when || Than || shows up and you knock everyone out of his circle

[runic finch]

I always take more dmg than I am supposed at hydra

or die once

[slow loom]

Was the same for me then I’d get wrecked as soon as I stepped into the next realm. It’ll get better!

[runic finch]

ok elysium boss

[rich cave]

The only reason I take a bunch of damage at hydra is because I’m reckless when I play against it

[runic finch]

is insane

jesus christ

[rich cave]

Elysium boss is super easy

Easier than hydra imo

[runic finch]

couldn't do dmg

at all

[rich cave]

Kill Asterius first

Theseus will just camp and throw a spear at you occasionally

[runic finch]

he was the problem tho

[rich cave]

Then attack Theseus

You don’t want to take Theseus to half health until you’ve killed Asterius

If you do he’ll do a call

[runic finch]

he did one

even with asterius dead

[rich cave]

Then you have that and Asterius to deal with

He does

It’s just way easier to deal with it without Asterius running around too

If you have a greater call charged up use it right when he does his call because his shield is down then

You can get big damage on him

[wary kestrel]

Beat hades with the doom shieldnbuild

[arctic cargo]

Dammit man, i missed 3 fishes in one game

Is there any specified technique to get em?

Everytime is either too early or too late

[subtle granite]

be quick when it blinks in

you have quite a bit of time after it goes down

another tip is: there can be max. 3 fake bobs; so if it bobs 3 times you know that the next time is real

[arctic cargo]

So i press the button when it bobs or when it blinks?

[subtle granite]

blinks

with the 4th bob trick, press the button when it bobs for the 4th time

[lone nova]

Hoooollllllllllllyyyyy
..
No clue how I won that. Entered Styx with no death defiance lol

[arctic cargo]

Ok much thanks

[raven thorn]

is there an actual end point for the character relationships? because some of them are getting crazy

[fluid yoke]

@wary kestrel you need to spoiler that name

or put redacted

[runic finch]

how do I get more blood I think to upgrade weapons?

[fluid yoke]

outside of the original 6 titan blood from all 6 weapons

you need to beat the game

[runic finch]

so once I invest into a weapon

that's that

[fluid yoke]

yup

you'll get lots of it though

titan blood eventually

[pseudo pebble]

What have you invested your TB in so far, if you don’t mind my asking?

[runic finch]

aegis

since I use it the most

but I might switch to bow

so..

kinda wasted

[fluid yoke]

not wasted