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flat sierra
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i hardly ever take the "next 3 boons have better rarity"

torpid vault
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is the nectar the next 3 I choose get upgraded or the next that are offered

subtle granite
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trade boons are rarer than any other boons

civic blaze
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Is getting the ||true ending|| considered mid game or late game?

ripe oar
errant vessel
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@subtle granite ok ty

thorny bobcat
subtle granite
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true ending is early-mid

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since it only needs ||10|| clears

leaden whale
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10 clears

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damn daniel

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i have only one

subtle granite
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once you get the achilles sub plot you are probably mid game

ruby mural
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when you get Dionysus call with aphrodite and dionysus duo bloon dmg go zoom

civic blaze
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only early-mid?

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wow

subtle granite
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yep

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you can get it in your first 40 runs

civic blaze
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I'm at run 72 lol

subtle granite
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you can, not saying it's the norm

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the norm is anywhere between 40 and 200

civic blaze
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alright

subtle granite
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epilogue however really needs 100 attempts at the very least

ruby mural
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i do love me some ||bass||

subtle granite
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ooooooo

prisma socket
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Wait, there's subplots?

placid inlet
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Nice

drowsy plover
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Yes

ripe oar
placid inlet
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Yeah

prisma socket
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How do those work? D:

civic blaze
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Wait so when do I know that I'm in midgame

subtle granite
zealous bison
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finally managed to walk my friend through his first full run DusaSticker

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let the fun begin

prisma socket
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Oh dang, ok.

zealous bison
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let's turn up the heat! elmorise

placid inlet
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Become better friends with the characters

drowsy plover
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I'm at the stage where ||Zag is snooping through his dad's room||

subtle granite
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turn up!!

prisma socket
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I'm only about 25 runs in (no clears). Most of my nectar has gone to Cerberus and Sisyphus.

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But nothing notable has happened yet.

drowsy plover
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Keep giving it to Sisyphus

sterile solar
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You mean bouldy ?

ruby mural
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bouldy best boy

civic blaze
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How do I ||free ||Sisyphus? I already maxed out his nectar and Hades and Meg have talked about him.

drowsy plover
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I gave most of it to Achilles, Than and ||Orpheus||

molten arch
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does anyone know how i can launch the game on vulkan

subtle granite
drowsy plover
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And Nyx yeah

ruby mural
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belive you need nyx at 5 hearts

prisma socket
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Out of curiosity then - is there an easy way to farm Nectar?

placid inlet
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Sisyphus, Achilles, ||Orpheus|| Nyx, ||Chaos|| and Eurydice all have subplots

drowsy plover
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I'm very generous, I love collecting nectar and giving it to friends

placid inlet
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Probably more that I’m forgetting

subtle granite
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so that and dio's boon

torpid vault
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full auto on the bow is giving me a lot of dps rn

drowsy plover
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I even gave it to Patroclus because he's the real MVP

prisma socket
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What are treasure troves?

ripe oar
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they spawn randomly in each room

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theyre like chests that when you open spawn some enemies

placid inlet
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The chests that give you an extra challenge

ripe oar
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after you defeat the enemies you get a reward

prisma socket
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Oh. Gotcha. Thank you.

subtle granite
prisma socket
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Sounds like doing Dio run starts might be a semi reliable way then.

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Beyond just doing runs.

ripe oar
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there is a dio boon that gives you a nectar yeah

subtle granite
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that and poseidon's sunken treasure

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it cna also give nectar on epic

placid inlet
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Really?

subtle granite
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yep

placid inlet
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huh

subtle granite
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i got like 2-3 of it even tho i never try for poseidon :)

placid inlet
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In my 100+ runs I’ve never seen that

subtle granite
# placid inlet huh

Common:
Obols Awarded: 50–70
Health Awarded: 1–3 items
Darkness Awarded: 50-100
Chance of Nectar: 10%
Chance of Diamond: 0.03%
Rare:
Multiplier: 1.3–1.5
Epic:
Multiplier: 2.0–2.2

placid inlet
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Thanks

subtle granite
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even got a dia from it now that i think about it

ripe oar
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what

subtle granite
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it's an interesting consumeable

placid inlet
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DIAMOND?!

subtle granite
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ye

ripe oar
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ive never gotten that

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or nectar

subtle granite
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Chance of Diamond: 0.03%

drowsy plover
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I got diamonds from fishing

ripe oar
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damnnn

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yeah there are some rare fish u can exchange for diamonds

subtle granite
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you get bounties(blood, dia,ambrosia) from ||surface|| fishing, true

placid inlet
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Well thanks then

subtle granite
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sure thing, happy farming :)

drowsy plover
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Yea I know last run I went to ||Persephone's garden, then I went to the back river and was like "wait a second, mom, I have to catch this fish".||

ruby mural
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xd

subtle granite
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||"mom i am about to die but FISH"||

thorny bobcat
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the legendary fish in ||Chaos|| is the only thing I'm missing from the codex lol

subtle granite
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same:c

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chaos fish are a legend ._.

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somebody said that they used to give bounties instead of ||surface fishies|| and thats why they're so rare

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but it got changed so huh ,_,

leaden whale
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they give an assload of darkness

subtle granite
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if you get them early on that might be hella benefitial

ruby mural
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im getting closer to unlocking artemis' favor

placid inlet
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Nice

crimson flower
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So, I've been trying to figure out how to handle the Gun

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It really is wonky but I'm glad I'm used to Reloading

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Had a weird Aphrodite Build my last run

civic blaze
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Is there gonna be any content updates or is this it

thorny bobcat
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we don't know yet

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I don't think they know yet either

subtle granite
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we all pray for it

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but else just get into modding :D

thorny bobcat
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I would imagine there's going to be more content eventually they know there's demand for it but I don't know if that's the #1 priority

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probably not

cunning granite
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Oh I just met ||thanatos|| for the first time and he’s SO HOT ahhhh

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The way zag called him ||THAN|| has me dead

civic blaze
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How's the modding community for this game?

placid inlet
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yes

thorny bobcat
cunning granite
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the developers really gave us what we wanted which was hotness and amazing voice acting

ruby mural
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does thantos still visit you during your run after you do his favor?

leaden whale
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yeah

placid inlet
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Especially Charon

cunning granite
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I didn’t know how he or ||demeter|| showed up but they only did after I met the final boss for the first time

thorny bobcat
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if there's one thing Supergiant gets right across all their games it's the voice acting

cunning granite
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And Alecto as well never before

torpid vault
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should I buy the anvil in the styx shop, do i get to choose which boon gets taken away

thorny bobcat
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I remember playing Bastion on my iPad in high school being blown away by how good the voice acting was

subtle granite
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chris saphire melted hearts in pyre and continues to do so in hades

cunning granite
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So are bastion and transistor good games?

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This is my first supergiant game

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Or is hades the best

subtle granite
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transistors story is amazing

thorny bobcat
subtle granite
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hades definitively learned from all the games

drowsy plover
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I played all of them and I love them equally

thorny bobcat
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and yes Bastion and Transistor are both really good and I'd recommend them

subtle granite
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however it's very different, being their first roguelike/lite and all

torpid vault
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ok

cunning granite
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Ok they’re both on sale on switch

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So just wondering if they’re worth it at all

subtle granite
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something that made me very happy with pyre was the ||menu sounds||

cunning granite
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I do loveeeee Greek myth so maybe I will always be partial to hades

drowsy plover
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Hades is a combination of all the previous three games

subtle granite
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just threw me right back to hades and i might have teared up

thorny bobcat
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I really should get Pyre too before the sale is over

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complete my collection

drowsy plover
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Definitely. Pyre is a bit underrated compared to the other games but it's definitely worth it

cunning granite
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Is the graphics quality just as good?

drowsy plover
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It is. The maps of the Downside are eye candy

ruby mural
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ayy i unlocked zeus' favor

placid inlet
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Nice I did too

hardy oyster
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||so i tried to get the pet from meg, i gave her 6 nectars. Buti am not able to give the last nectar for the pet? what do i have to do first?||

drowsy plover
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I think you have to unlock more dialogue. It took me a while as well

ruby mural
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After a random number of encounters with the Furies, Megaera will approach Zagreus in his room, and tell him that she's only stopping him from escaping because she has to. (This requires her to have first been in his room to collect her belongings.) After this interaction, Megaera can receive Ambrosia the next time she is met in the House of Hades.

It is NOT necessary to enable the "Extreme Measures" condition of the Pact of Punishment.

hardy oyster
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okay thanks

ruby mural
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thats Megaera's favor

subtle granite
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long live the wiki nectar

ruby mural
subtle granite
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i wish you could actually salute to 2021 with nectar bottles

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yo sgg, we need more merch

drowsy plover
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Ah okay I was confused because I got that scene and still had to wait a while until I got ||her companion||

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Probably because I was out of ambrosia

ruby mural
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yeah

subtle granite
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with whom would you share an ambrosia bottle, just the first name that comes to mind

hardy oyster
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||also if i change my pierced butterfly at the last keepsakes, will the damage bonus stay||

subtle granite
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nope

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pierced butterfly and lambent plume are bound to their bonuses

hardy oyster
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ohh alright

ruby mural
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yup

hardy oyster
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thanks

ruby mural
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so if you want the bonuses you need to run them the whole run

subtle granite
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or at least in styx

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if you want them for ||father dearest||

ruby mural
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yeah

cunning granite
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Hm so why on earth did I just fight || the Minotaur on his own ||before I was meant to

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Does this mean I have to fight him again?

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Or will it be only ||theseus|| next time

subtle granite
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cause if you prevail his health gets lowered in the champions fight

hardy oyster
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||yea, but he has lower health in the real fight||

cunning granite
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ah ok

subtle granite
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he is the second option of mini boss battle in elysium

cunning granite
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Cuz I don’t wanna do that again

subtle granite
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sry :c

cunning granite
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ahhhhhh ok I don’t like the purple ball

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So I didn’t mind his fight

subtle granite
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he just want to have some sparring friends outside of theseus

cunning granite
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He’s easier to dodge than the butterflies

subtle granite
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everybody else is scared of the bull :c

ruby mural
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asterius my guy is scary at ||em3||

cunning granite
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I think my current build is fricking awesome so I’m not afraid haha

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It’s got ||Demeter|| and Zeus bonuses

drowsy plover
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It's just that he takes a big chunk of my health so I have to recover until the real battle

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But the dialogue with him is nice

ruby mural
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keer spoiler that first name

cunning granite
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sorry

ruby mural
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no worries

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dont want to spoil for the new players

cunning granite
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I love those bonuses plus zeus shield so it’s been quite nice this run

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To have that compounded effect and I think with some Athena and aphro thrown in

subtle granite
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this wholesome lot of hades appreciators ;_;

cunning granite
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I can’t wait to check out the spoiler channel

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Once I’m further ahead 😭

subtle granite
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it's not that exciting trust me zaglol

drowsy plover
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I actually think this one is more fun

subtle granite
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yee

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and more wholesome cause newcomers are just very nice to talk to before they enter the stage of being dead inside going for 40 ||heat|| for the 50th time ._.

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erm what

west carbon
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how do i use titan blood

subtle granite
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you buy all weapons, go on a run and when you come back you can use it to upgrade your weapons :)

west carbon
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ok :)

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thx

ruby mural
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oof im getting unlucky with thanatos all the times i have gotten him in my run after i unlocked his favor he has been talking with someone else

sterile solar
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Hes a busy one

subtle granite
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ye idk why but most tend to disappear when you're far enough along with their relationship thanthink (maybe because you pay more attention to the characters)

sterile solar
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I think is pure rng

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He appears now like every run

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And I have completed everything

subtle granite
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so you lose lots of hp every run? you good? 👀

thorny bobcat
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is Than's appearing really tied to you having low HP? I had no idea

ruby mural
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i feel like than is talking to other boys

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im getting worried

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xd

sterile solar
subtle granite
sterile solar
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I still can believe that idea is around

subtle granite
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it's in the wiki

sterile solar
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Wow

subtle granite
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and i noticed that if i lose health in tart alot he is there in tart immediately

sterile solar
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Dunno, I dont seem to take much dmg

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And I get him in tartarus a lot

subtle granite
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maybe it's "a lot" for your cases?

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idk but i noticed i see him more often if i take huge damage outside the boss rooms

sterile solar
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How was this confirmed

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Like what led to this

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Is it in the code

subtle granite
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idk, i've only been here since september

drowsy plover
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I often get him even if I have decent HP

sterile solar
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I almost never ger hurt in tartarus

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And thats where I get him the most

leaden whale
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Than has appeared when people hadn't lost health

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The only thing that determines it afaik is room depth depending on the region, but @ me if im wrong

sterile solar
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Thatd make more sense

leaden whale
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I think the health thing was because of a misunderstanding of the game code

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Or so someone said

sterile solar
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But I bet tatz found something in the code if its in the wiki

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Yeah

leaden whale
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The wiki is a bit outdated

sterile solar
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How so

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They do a good job at it

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Whats outdated

subtle granite
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idk about outdated, since everybody uses it here i'd say it gets whipped back into shape quickly 👀

leaden whale
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Maybe not outdated

sterile solar
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Yeah I think is up to date

leaden whale
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But stuff like that bit about than for example

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Is still on there

sterile solar
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I just want to know about the thanatos

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I wouldnr say outdated

leaden whale
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Yeah

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It's 8 am and i havent slept

sterile solar
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Just curiosity

leaden whale
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My brain is mush

subtle granite
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omg thighs you beautiful lad go to sleep

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hypnos misses you dearly

leaden whale
subtle granite
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no doge partying

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please seak out a bed

vivid patio
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the thanatos thing is ||that you have lost health at any point in the previous three chambers. its not an immediate effect, which is why he can sometimes appear when you're at full health||

cunning granite
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yall... I’ve just been converted from aegis to the fists

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They’re barely taking 10 seconds to kill everything in sight with Zeus attack bonuses and Jolt

sterile solar
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I know you fiddle a lot with that

leaden whale
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There was a line in the code that apparently made people think that

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I don't think it's encouraged to talk in-depth about the code here so I can dm if you want

torpid vault
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is thanatos ever in the house or can I only talk to him when he decides to pop up

sterile solar
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The latter

torpid vault
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alright

molten arch
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Steam was unable to sync your files for Hades with the steam cloud

flat sierra
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he does show up in the house eventually in the hallway below Achilles, but only after you talk to him enough when he pops up

molten arch
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Has anyone had this error before?

flat sierra
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i have that error in general when my internet is down

molten arch
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So its no problem i should just play the game?

flat sierra
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they'll use your files as the baseline when they can re-sync so yeah you're fine

molten arch
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Okay thank you

torpid vault
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really shouldn't have used my diamonds on the administrative chambers yet

flat sierra
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it's important for some subquests

subtle granite
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why not? it's one of the most important upgrades

torpid vault
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I have no clears yet tho

flat sierra
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doesnt matter

torpid vault
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is there anything else there

flat sierra
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still needed for character subplots

torpid vault
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ok

subtle granite
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it still says everything about your non- clears yet too 🤔

torpid vault
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I suppose

flat sierra
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also diamonds really arent all that important

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they're mostly used for unlocking the games' songs to play inside the House lol

solar panther
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2 total clears and a win streak of 2 squirtheh

flat sierra
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keep it runnin

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wins on wins

solar panther
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You bet

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I’m having a blast

subtle granite
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keep goin, keep streakin squirtheh

solar panther
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Before this I lost to ||hades|| like 9 times in a row so this feels so good

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Oops forgot to put spoiler

subtle granite
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sweet revenge my lad

solar panther
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Also is this emoji in the actual game? squirtyay

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Yes

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Sweet revenge indeed

solar panther
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Ohhh

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I’ve only played hades out of supergiants collection

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And is it possible to talk to the red shade?

flat sierra
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not exactly

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you just give them a shout-out when you walk up to them after winning

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always worth it tho

solar panther
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Yea I’ve done that, wish I could talk to them tho

flat sierra
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i live to make the day of Our Good Shade

subtle granite
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i wanna give them an autograph tf...

solar panther
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Ikr

flat sierra
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same shadegrief

solar panther
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Imagine if u could

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That would be epic

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I don’t get why they made Theseus bad

subtle granite
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theseus isnt bad, he is flawed like hades

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they both have never had the right teacher to teach them to work their emotions out better

solar panther
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Yea ig

flat sierra
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i mean when you are fully aware that history paints you as one of the greatest kings known to man

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you get a big head

subtle granite
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i hate that ||hades|| was named as the main antagonist because he is basically the underworld itself ;_;

solar panther
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Theseus just likes to call me hellspawn in order to get rid of his troubles shadegrief

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But he’s the one trying to stop zag

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So it makes sense

subtle granite
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well, thats his job

flat sierra
solar panther
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True

subtle granite
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as the CHAMPION OF THE ARENA

flat sierra
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lots of depictions forget that part

subtle granite
solar panther
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But he is the main source of trouble for the main character zag and that’s why he’s the main antagonist

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I mean who else would it be in this scenario

flat sierra
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ye

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also i do love how they portay Hades in this game

solar panther
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He looks like he would have corpse husbands voice lol

flat sierra
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his bad tendencies are all more from abusive/poor parenting and communication than any real evil

solar panther
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Yea

flat sierra
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the problems he makes come more from the Olympian pride than any malice

solar panther
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Also how do I unlock ||Orpheus||

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I want to get him but don’t know how

flat sierra
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i think you need to have met Eurydice a few times

solar panther
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I have

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Haven’t seen her in forever tho

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Idk why

subtle granite
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you need to have had the talk with hades about your "musician"

solar panther
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Oh how does that happen?

flat sierra
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just comes down to luck on who you met in your runs

ivory ocean
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i think you have to buy his Harp at the contractor

subtle granite
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just dialogue rng

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you get the lyre after him tho o.O

solar panther
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I haven’t seen anything like that at the contracted

subtle granite
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requirements: Reach Asphodel
Fountain Chamber, Tartarus
Fated List of Minor Prophecies

solar panther
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I have all of those

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Every single one

subtle granite
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if you mean that you havent gotten the ||Court Musician's Sentence|| from the house contractor

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hmmmmmm

solar panther
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What is the court musicians sentence

subtle granite
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thats the name of the item in the house contractors catalogue to get orpheus

solar panther
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I have all the requirements

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Also put spoiler

subtle granite
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orpheus isnt a spoiler

solar panther
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Oh rly?

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Interesting

subtle granite
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anyways then you're just missing the dialogue from hades about your court musicians sentence

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yeah you get him mentioned way before End Boss Onward

solar panther
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Yeah

subtle granite
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yeah as far as i can see it's just that dialogue

solar panther
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Gimme that rng bb

subtle granite
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so good luck to you for the necessary rng!

solar panther
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Thanks

subtle granite
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if you dont get it soon enough you might wanna ask in #h1-tech-support since it may be some backlogged dialogue bug?

solar panther
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Yea I’ll see

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I’ve done 25 runs

subtle granite
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oh yeah thats fine

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it would be worrysome after i think 80 runs

solar panther
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Yea so I’m fine

subtle granite
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of course yeah

solar panther
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also what shield aspect is the best

cobalt patrol
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ye

subtle granite
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thats the only aspect nobody can agree on

cobalt patrol
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which one

flat sierra
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i like Hidden the most

subtle granite
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there are equal amounts of people who like zeus or chaos or hidden

cobalt patrol
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i dont like chaos

flat sierra
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same

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i prefer Zeus to Chaos

subtle granite
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i like chaos and hidden most and dont care for zeus at all

solar panther
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ugh this is hard

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what are the differences?

subtle granite
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you really gotta try it on skelly on your own lad

solar panther
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ok ill try them out

flat sierra
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Chaos' shield yeet is fun but waiting on the shields to come back in order to attack/block is annoying

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Zeus doesnt have that issue

subtle granite
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you can just push a blood into one of them, train a bit on skelly, end game and go back to the last save

flat sierra
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and Hidden shield is just

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so damn fun

subtle granite
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but tbf it isnt that annyoing with bosses

fluid crown
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herme's keepsake is considered pretty good right?

subtle granite
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you can upload images to gyazo or imgur to post imagelinks!

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the bonus upgrades give you additional things from items that dont help your run along directly (like ||darkness is used for after/before the run but if you buy the upgrade you get health by picking up darkness||)

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||infernal gates|| are ||heat|| related. you can go through them with the right level of ||heat|| (||i think 5 for tartarus infernal gates, 10 for asphodel, 15 for elysium||) and get bonus items for surviving in them without taking damage

prisma socket
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@subtle granite - thank you! 💛

fluid crown
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i dont know which one to use

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i've already used zeus' ring

subtle granite
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rerolling is the last mirror upgrade:
Fated Authority Each rank gives you 1 die, used to randomly alter the reward for the next chamber
or
Fated Persuasion Each rank gives you 1 die, used to randomly alter Boon and Well of Charon choices.

maiden nexus
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I think Hermes keepsake is bad for new players

subtle granite
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not if you're a fast new player, the additional free dodge chance has gifted some people their first wins :)

fluid crown
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hm maybe

maiden nexus
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new player you start 50 hp with minimal dd

fluid crown
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i start with 80 now

maiden nexus
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and Hermes incentives taking damage to save time

subtle granite
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well you will get farther until you get the lambent plume tho

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not necessarily

maiden nexus
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I think for a new player it definitely will result in them taking a lot of unnecessary damage to try and do things fast

naive hollow
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still looking for someone to jump into a voice chat with.

maiden nexus
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what do you want to talk about?

subtle granite
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it's a personal thing Matthew 🤔 some are used to being fast but sloppy, the additional dodge just makes their game go farther

fluid crown
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ok so should i go with ares, artemis or dionysus? im not sure who has better boons in general lel

naive hollow
#

I like to talk when i play games

subtle granite
fluid crown
#

who's cerby

subtle granite
#

cerberus

#

dog

#

three heads

#

very cuddly

fluid crown
#

oh maybe not xd

subtle granite
#

xD

maiden nexus
#

Honestly I think you should try a boons for yourself

#

some are playstyle

#

but Athena dash every time no matter what

fluid crown
#

i always start with zeus boons

#

i think they are the best

maiden nexus
#

I also thought that at first

subtle granite
#

yeah, i would also recommend that you maybe get hypnos and cerberus keepsakes soon ;)

fluid crown
#

im pretty sure i gave hypnos one hmmm

subtle granite
#

zeus has a very nice cast to guarantee a free tartarus almost

#

nope, i see your keepsakes lmao

fluid crown
#

also i never use my cast lmao

torpid vault
#

Ive been using Artemis call lately

subtle granite
#

then time to get used to cast :D

maiden nexus
#

Yes Artemis call is nice

subtle granite
#

go for the zeus keepsake :)

maiden nexus
#

should probably switch off Zeus once you used it once though

subtle granite
#

artemis call is so nice for bosses and when you just cant be bothered to find the last little enemy hiding zaglol

fluid crown
#

i used zeus at the start of the run now im going on level 2

maiden nexus
#

imagine being new and not playing Blossom every run OMEGALUL

fluid crown
#

lol

maiden nexus
#

someday you will understand

subtle granite
#

imagine having thought the ||blossom|| is bad shadegrief

maiden nexus
#

I mean diminishing returns are kinda sad

#

😦

subtle granite
#

diminishing returns?

#

what was that again

maiden nexus
#

||when you get multiple upgrades into same boon its not as good like level 1 to 2 is better than 4 to 5||

subtle granite
#

ahh

maiden nexus
#

so the returns get worse

#

but you just slap acorn in ||styx|| and easy

subtle granite
#

yeah idk i dont like to pom my boons so i dont really have to fight with that sadness

#

i wonder whats the highest level of pom is now

#

i saw somebody with over 10 once

maiden nexus
#

honestly though

#

the returns get so bad at 10

subtle granite
#

idk the number looks crazy

maiden nexus
#

the % damage increase is mega low

subtle granite
#

at this point i dont care for the benefits i'm in for the memes zaglol

maiden nexus
#

best meme is

subtle granite
#

dont say ||super soaker||

#

or the meme beam

maiden nexus
#

100% dodge

subtle granite
#

ok yeah thats fair

maiden nexus
#

then afk and lose to timer

subtle granite
#

i wonder if you can do a no-hit 100% dodge run

maiden nexus
#

and lose the literal unloseable run

subtle granite
#

hehe

#

nothing will stop the underworld from drowning you in some thicc red water

maiden nexus
#

what is the timer

#

I have never actually died to it

subtle granite
#

i tried full ||heat|| once and saw the timer, wanted to see what happens

#

it hurt

maiden nexus
#

its in the base not just || the pact right?||

fluid crown
#

how do i see how much god gauge i have for my calls?

maiden nexus
#

bottom left

subtle granite
#

look below your health

#

the yellow gauge is for calls

rich cave
#

If you don’t have a call it’s not there

reef herald
#

TIME TO INTERUP DISCUSSION WITH THE AGE OLD QUESTION

subtle granite
#

dying from timer is only possible with ||pact||

reef herald
#

what is ur favorite weapon

subtle granite
#

since you can have runs that take over 1h

quartz condor
#

after unlocking the mirror and weapons, can i just trade in keys?

subtle granite
#

spear

subtle granite
maiden nexus
#

lmao

reef herald
subtle granite
#

just a random number i'm thinking about, totally not the exact amount you need for late game stuff lmaoooooooo

rich cave
quartz condor
maiden nexus
#

but only if you care about cosmetics

subtle granite
#

honestly who doesnt

quartz condor
#

i dont particuarly care about skins and stuff

subtle granite
#

D:

#

how dare!

maiden nexus
#

how do we ban him

subtle granite
#

idk

placid inlet
#

Monster

reef herald
#

celeste :D

subtle granite
#

love how nobody agrees on a favorite weapon but eveybody agrees that cosmetics are important

#

love yall

reef herald
#

but of course

placid inlet
#

||Funny menu theme tho||

maiden nexus
#

Probably could get more agreement on strongest rather than favorite

subtle granite
#

shhhh we dont speak to monsters ;)

reef herald
#

OK whats the strongest weapon is hades

maiden nexus
#

Rail

subtle granite
#

hidden sword

reef herald
#

||yea|| sigh

subtle granite
#

like obviously

rich cave
#

Rail is really good for speedrunning

maiden nexus
#

wait ||Arthur sword||

#

are you mega troll

subtle granite
#

it does 200 thrust damage

rich cave
#

Hidden sword has highest dps though

maiden nexus
#

||its so slow and mega bad in high heat||

subtle granite
#

nothing does that insane amount of damage

#

rail is just quick n gud cause clusterbomb

#

without it it's literal trash dont @ me

maiden nexus
#

maybe we can agree on weakest weapon

#

Bow

rich cave
#

Yes

subtle granite
#

no

rich cave
#

Bow is the worst weapon

maiden nexus
#

by far

subtle granite
#

bow can decimate

maiden nexus
#

||no aspects||

fluid yoke
#

i just did a really good bow run gonna disagree

subtle granite
#

it's very nice for open builds

fluid yoke
#

although i did lose one before it was due to a series of bad decisions

#

in boons

subtle granite
#

the weakest weapon by FAR is the base spear

fluid yoke
#

that resulted in losing many death defiances

placid inlet
#

Which one is cluster bomb again?

maiden nexus
#

no base spear is mega broken

fluid yoke
#

so the bow is good also the spear is good

subtle granite
fluid yoke
#

cluster bomb is the adamant rail hammer

maiden nexus
#

you can stay out of ||hydra|| range entire fight

fluid yoke
#

works really well with eris

rich cave
#

Spear is good with every aspect

placid inlet
#

oh I hate that one

subtle granite
#

spear is great but the base spear is sooo underwhelming once you got achilles

maiden nexus
#

||hidden aspect spear is a bait||

rich cave
#

Fists are my favorite

subtle granite
#

why bait

maiden nexus
#

but that goes for literally every weapon

subtle granite
#

that you gotta explain lol

maiden nexus
#

other ones are better

#

I think losing hp is bad

subtle granite
#

ahh

rich cave
#

Fists are a lot of fun to use

placid inlet
#

Because 30 health

subtle granite
#

the -60% for healing serpent slash

maiden nexus
#

yes Zag Fist+plume+epic hermes dodge

subtle granite
#

i see your predicament but that isnt the magic of he spear

maiden nexus
#

the dream run

#

I got like 65% never 100 😦

subtle granite
#

then work harder :c

maiden nexus
#

its rng bro

civic blaze
#

||Arthur|| Sword OP

#

This feels illegal

maiden nexus
#

if you think ||Arthur Sword|| is op you don't play high heat

subtle granite
#

you dont have to?

maiden nexus
#

so sllllllow

civic blaze
#

I'm still in the single digits

subtle granite
#

thats just 20% of the playerbase

rich cave
#

It is slow but it’s still good

subtle granite
#

^

rich cave
#

And with hermes boons you can make up for it

maiden nexus
#

you need to rng the right boon and high tier

civic blaze
#

The hidden aspects I have so far feel very OP besides ||Guan Yu||

subtle granite
#

it gives bonus heath, does massive damage, has the lifesaver aura? literally a newcomer dream come true

maiden nexus
#

since tier matters so much for hermes

#

||Lucifer Rail|| with triple bomb

civic blaze
#

I was doing 1600 damage on the thurst by Elysium lol

rich cave
maiden nexus
#

yes

#

support fire with anything

#

XD

rich cave
#

Support fire is very overpowered with fists and rail

subtle granite
#

long live artemis

civic blaze
#

Is the ||Lucifer Rail ||considered S tier?

subtle granite
#

or with serrated point spear

maiden nexus
#

idk

#

I just think if you get triple bomb

#

its op

#

like get any high % increase like aphrodite with triple bomb

#

you are just jamming

#

but I have yet to play past like ||10 heat||| with it

civic blaze
#

Is there a consensus for the best speedrunning aspect?

rich cave
#

Is there any reason to use ||lucifer|| over other rail aspects

maiden nexus
#

Rail+Poseidon dash?

#

with zeus cast?

placid inlet
#

i think hidden shield?

maiden nexus
#

idk something like that

rich cave
#

Because it seems a bit worse than the others

maiden nexus
#

I think its a different style

#

very different compared to others

#

it could be its own weapon tbh

subtle granite
#

the hidden rail is just as special as hidde bow, except hidden bow KICKS ASS

maiden nexus
#

hidden bow is good

rich cave
#

It feels slower than base rail

placid inlet
#

hidden gun bad imo

maiden nexus
#

if you play rail like rail with ||lucifer|| it will feel bad

subtle granite
#

slower but lad

#

listen

#

somebody got 60 ||heat|| on that son of a bow

maiden nexus
#

you gotta adapt

subtle granite
#

IT KICKS ALL BUTT

maiden nexus
#

only bad thing about bow

#

is special low dmg

#

but you literally don't care

subtle granite
#

the special curses the others

maiden nexus
#

Iguess with doom

torpid vault
#

theseus with ||demeter|| circle attacks is hard af

subtle granite
#

the attack however

#

BOOM

placid inlet
#

but it’s curse

maiden nexus
#

I know

rich cave
torpid vault
#

just my luck

maiden nexus
#

I am just saying the is the only thing you could say is bad

sharp locust
#

Completely agree

subtle granite
#

question

sharp locust
#

With the Theseus one

maiden nexus
#

just charm him bro

subtle granite
#

do you guys find aphro or ||demeter|| trial harder

maiden nexus
#

and he kills himself

sharp locust
#

|| Demeter ||

placid inlet
#

aphro then dio

torpid vault
#

||Demeter||

fluid crown
#

oh dam

placid inlet
#

||demeter|| is easy

fluid crown
#

i messed up and didnt take the lucky tooth for the third level cuz i had both of my death defiances and i forgot 😂

maiden nexus
#

why is ||demeter|| spoiler

subtle granite
#

cause this is the new players channel

maiden nexus
#

it says end boiss onward

subtle granite
#

you need to reach the end boss to get her

#

yes exactly

maiden nexus
#

wait really

subtle granite
#

yeah

maiden nexus
#

I did not even know

placid inlet
#

yeah

subtle granite
#

you need to get to the ||surface|| to first meet her

sharp locust
#

It's all good Matthew

subtle granite
#

since she is the god of it

maiden nexus
#

do you need to ||escape or just fight hades||

placid inlet
#

did you just think you were unlucky

sharp locust
#

|| just fight ||

maiden nexus
#

yes lol

placid inlet
#

fight

maiden nexus
#

I mean

#

It was not super unlucky

#

like 10th run

subtle granite
#

same like with the ||rod||

maiden nexus
#

and stuff like hermes isn't instant

#

can't get him first run

placid inlet
#

||demeter|| trial easy

maiden nexus
#

I used to think Poseidon trial was hard

sharp locust
#

For you yea, but I'd rather not fight it

maiden nexus
#

now its easy

fluid yoke
#

i had a really bad trial with || demeter || recently

#

and those shield guys

sharp locust
#

Aphro's is easier to me

fluid yoke
#

so i'm gonna say not easy

maiden nexus
#

did they nerf the aiming lol

subtle granite
placid inlet
#

what would a hypothetical hermes trial be like

maiden nexus
#

Shield guys are mega annyoing

fluid yoke
#

yeah

#

i was using bow

maiden nexus
#

unless u have rail I guess

fluid yoke
#

and idnt have anythign to get around the shields easily

maiden nexus
#

just special behind them

subtle granite
maiden nexus
#

thats why rail best wep

subtle granite
#

SPEED

sharp locust
maiden nexus
#

debate over

#

I won

placid inlet
#

wait what

maiden nexus
#

no dispute possible

subtle granite
#

well you were the only debateur

#

so you are the first and last place

#

:)

placid inlet
#

i never really saw that

sharp locust
#

My favorite weapon is spear

maiden nexus
#

bro I am so insane

#

no one else could place

subtle granite
placid inlet
#

but anyways the thing that was kinda hard to me was the blizzard

subtle granite
#

there are so little spear lads left ever since a patch massacred it

maiden nexus
#

I am Rail>Spear>Gloves>Sword>Shield>Bow

#

but ah

placid inlet
#

i never noticed the unflinching enemies

maiden nexus
#

bow now with hidden

subtle granite
#

me spear > bow > gloves/ sword > shield >>>>>>>>>rail

placid inlet
#

spear gang

subtle granite
#

spear gang!

maiden nexus
#

😦

#

excluded again

placid inlet
#

i didn’t even know that enemies had sturdy

maiden nexus
#

I am Artemis gang though

#

for sure

royal geode
#

I'm assuming the purple key weapons are one time use only?

placid inlet
#

yeah

royal geode
#

Welp

subtle granite
#

one use?

placid inlet
#

wait no

royal geode
#

Any I can unlock permanently?

subtle granite
#

do you mean the purple aspect that grants more darkness?

placid inlet
#

all fully unlocked

royal geode
#

I'm looking at a spear for 4 purple keys

subtle granite
#

all weapons are permanent

royal geode
#

Ooo ok

placid inlet
#

sorry

royal geode
#

Its ok

subtle granite
#

only the purple mist around some weapons is for one run only since it switches around

maiden nexus
#

honestly I was confused for a minute too lol

placid inlet
#

i thought you meant the keys themselves

subtle granite
#

same

#

whelp, one brain cell at 2am

maiden nexus
#

I was like why is he referring to darkness thirst as purple keys LOL

placid inlet
#

ok but dio trial is hard

maiden nexus
#

At least agree with

#

Athena is easiest

#

just long maybe

placid inlet
#

yeah

#

aphro hardest though

maiden nexus
#

I think I maybe agree

placid inlet
#

i hate the stun

fluid crown
#

guys my first ambrosia ever is next but i need to beat ||minotaur and theseus|| wish me luck XD

placid inlet
#

gl

maiden nexus
#

just dodge spear with pillars

fluid crown
#

4head XD

maiden nexus
#

and don't take damage

#

that is my advice

maiden nexus
#

inb4 he realizes ambrosia isn't very good unless you have meg stacked with honey

royal geode
maiden nexus
#

nah you are good man

subtle granite
#

we are just used to different questions, you good

#

i miss seeing fully new people shadegrief

#

they are always so silent

maiden nexus
#

my friend was fully new

#

and like mega inter

#

I saw him play a run and was like

#

what

subtle granite
#

mega inter?

full pendant
#

For the mirror, if you have a boost equipped, but have 0 levels in it, does it still count towards the list of prophecies?

subtle granite
#

muggountu?

maiden nexus
#

my LoL is leaking just means bad

subtle granite
maiden nexus
#

but have u tried

#

or just assuming

full pendant
#

Well not to get the actual bonus

maiden nexus
#

cause maybe he is 900 iq

full pendant
#

I know that

subtle granite
#

since it else wouldnt register in your boon stats page

full pendant
#

But does that count for the prophecies too?

maiden nexus
#

honestly try it for future lads

full pendant
#

Eh ill try it tomorrow and let you know

subtle granite
#

nah i'm thinking of the boon stats page, since it doesnt show the unleveled aspects

#

i saw it on one of my fresh file runs

maiden nexus
#

actually

#

I feel like if it did you would know

subtle granite
#

if you press B (KBM gang) mid run you see the mirror aspects on top left

maiden nexus
#

cause new players would proc them just with keys

#

like u unlocked

subtle granite
#

but like green vs red

maiden nexus
#

feel like it would be noticed and talked about

#

cause if it doesn't with base ones why would it work with green ones

full pendant
#

Also a little sidenote, ive been beating the final boss into a pulp last couple runs

maiden nexus
#

just go ||EM4||

full pendant
#

Feels pretty good

#

Yes later

#

Let me enjoy my pleasure

#

Lol

maiden nexus
#

are you acorning up

#

and then u can just play like an idiot lol

full pendant
#

I actually unlocked that thing a couple minutes ago

maiden nexus
#

and win

subtle granite
#

sometimes

full pendant
maiden nexus
#

depends on ||heat||

subtle granite
#

imagine putting acorn on and getting hit by the summons

maiden nexus
#

like the keepsake

naive hollow
#

quick spin vs flaring spin?

full pendant
#

Assuming me forgetting which keepsake it is

maiden nexus
#

5 free hits is a lot

full pendant
#

What does it do again?

maiden nexus
#

it the ||Eurydice|| one

#

final stage of each layer

full pendant
#

Ah free hit

#

Right

maiden nexus
#

you are immune to first 3/4/5 attacks

full pendant
#

No havent used it once

#

But ive considered it as fairly useful

maiden nexus
#

and ||hades is 40 hp per hit so its in effectively 200 hp||

full pendant
#

I relied on boyo's tooth instead actually at first

#

Though i supposs you arr actually boyo

#

I seriously cant type lately lol

placid inlet
#

sans skelly

slender wing
#

is the first boss the end boss?

maiden nexus
#

LOL

placid inlet
#

no

full pendant
#

Yes meg is the end boss

subtle granite
slender wing
#

i just bought Hades yesterday 😦

placid inlet
#

welcome

full pendant
#

No it isnt

#

Welcome though

subtle granite
full pendant
#

You'll most likely have a great time

fluid crown
#

damn theseus was like at 1/5 of his health and i died because i forgot to take my lucky tooth 😭

maiden nexus
#

@subtle granite then just get hit 5 times before he ||summons|| 5head

subtle granite
full pendant
#

I actually found the elysium boss to be fairly doable

#

But elysium itself a nightmare

maiden nexus
#

what will happen is

slender wing
#

imagine beating the first boss with your worst weapon then dying 3 rooms later feels bad man

maiden nexus
#

you will go in the ||boom attack|| twice and lose 2 stacks

#

and cry

subtle granite
#

anyways guys we have a newcomer, chill with your spoilers :|

full pendant
#

Oh right

#

Yeah the channel should allow that

#

But

#

They literally said they were new

subtle granite
#

allow what

slender wing
#

and having a broken xbox controller that has an awful dead zone and the a button barely works smh

subtle granite
#

ye

placid inlet
#

||skelly is a skeleton ||

full pendant
#

No spoilers endboss onward

#

So the name of a boss somewhere should be fine

full pendant
maiden nexus
#

I don't think my stuff

subtle granite
maiden nexus
#

is really understandable

#

but I will spoiler proof it

#

||"boom attack"||

subtle granite
full pendant
#

Spoiler is || in front and back right

#

Like ||test||

#

Pog

subtle granite
#

|| yes ||

placid inlet
#

yeah

subtle granite
#

i love faking spoilers

full pendant
#

||i love the spear but i suck the most at it, pls fix ty||

maiden nexus
#

||Hades is actually Dusa the entire time in disguise||

subtle granite
#

guys seriously

full pendant
#

||that would explain a lot||

subtle granite
#

i mean *matthew seriously

maiden nexus
#

my bad

full pendant
#

Would that mean they're tsundere?

placid inlet
#

CAN WE STOP WITH THE SPOILERS

maiden nexus
#

bro ||Hades is 100% tsundere||

full pendant
#

Sorry sorry

placid inlet
#

ok but

#

||charon is hades||

maiden nexus
#

and also

full pendant
maiden nexus
#

||Zeus uses lightning||

full pendant
#

Too risky for this channel

maiden nexus
#

ban me I don't care

full pendant
#

Speaking of gods tho

#

Since i assume the olympic gods arent spoilers

slender wing
#

no channel to discuss steam cards?

cunning granite
#

Except for one, no they’re not

placid inlet
#

||artemis is cool||

full pendant
#

Poseidon really doesnt want to show his face, for like 5 runs in a row now

subtle granite
#

BRO

#

I JUST READ CHARON IS HADES

#

STOPNAIÖJDAÖÄ

maiden nexus
#

time to use the charm then

placid inlet
#

NO

maiden nexus
#

OMG

full pendant
#

DUDE DELETE THAT SOIILER

maiden nexus
#

SHE DIDN'T SPOILER

subtle granite
#

i am dying

full pendant
#

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

placid inlet
#

SPOILER TAG

subtle granite
#

she*

full pendant
#

SPOILER MATE

subtle granite
#

NAH M8 STOP TROLLING THE NEWBS

torpid vault
slender wing
#

😢

full pendant
subtle granite
#

i am actually gonna start tearing up from laughter

full pendant
#

His charm is the only one i need

torpid vault
#

is charon mother!!!??!!?

full pendant
#

No ben

subtle granite
#

charon is brother

maiden nexus
#

I actually have not had this much fun in a while lmao

full pendant
#

I read that as carton

#

I need sleep

placid inlet
#

||charon/hades sells milk cartons, whenever hades is out for milk, charon is selling it||

subtle granite
#

oh my GUUUUUUUYS

full pendant
#

||Thats how he got filthy rich huh, he cant be mad cuz he got milk||

subtle granite
#

bruh his clothes are money

#

he invented being rich

full pendant
#

||actual spoilerish this time, i never lost to his fight yet||

full pendant
cunning granite
#

||charon is just a milk carton in disguise, that’s why he doesn’t speak||

maiden nexus
#

you will when the he pulls out the milk carton

subtle granite
#

pffffffffffffffffffffff

#

why MILK

full pendant
#

Likely

subtle granite
#

it was yogurt time today now milk

#

where are the mods and how arent we banned

cunning granite
#

sike ITS EGGS

placid inlet
#

||so hades is charon who is a carton||

full pendant
#

Because the depths of the underworld are spicy, and milk helps with spice

maiden nexus
#

MODS ASLEEP LOL

subtle granite
#

MIND BLOWN

#

charon carton selling cartons of charon?

full pendant
#

Why doesnt zagreus just pour tons of milk into the river

subtle granite
#

o.o

maiden nexus
#

you might not know this but the entire ||got milk campaign was started with Hades an Charon||

subtle granite
placid inlet
#

ALSO WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FOOD SO MUCH TODAY

full pendant
#

Lmao

subtle granite
#

chunks of bad milk in the river of the dead

subtle granite
full pendant
#

Its already dead mate

cunning granite
#

Charon to Zag: can I interest you in an egg in this trying time

full pendant
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Even the bacteria that would digest it

placid inlet
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yes

tardy bough
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is it bad that 12 hours in I only realized the food item is a gyro and not a burg and fries

full pendant
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I love you

maiden nexus
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wait

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WHAT

cunning granite
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LARSSON OMG

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hahahahaha

subtle granite
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OMG

placid inlet
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REALLY

cunning granite
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I didn’t even notice

subtle granite
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IT ALL CAME DOWN TO THIS

full pendant
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HAHAHAHAHAHA

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I swear im supposed to be quiet here

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Its 3am

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Im giggling like a lil girl

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Goddammit

subtle granite
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timezone neighbor!!!!!!!

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hi!

full pendant
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Hi!

cunning granite
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ah I’m an hour behind but close enough

full pendant
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You better not be british

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Ill stab you

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Oh no

maiden nexus
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imagine not being at 9 pm rn

full pendant
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The brits

cunning granite
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I’m not British but I live here sadly

placid inlet
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bri’ish

full pendant
full pendant
placid inlet
subtle granite
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ohmy

placid inlet
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and by that i mean me

solar panther
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9pm gang for life

placid inlet
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yes

maiden nexus
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the cools kids

subtle granite
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3pm gang for life

prisma socket
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Is there a good chart for duo boons to reference? The ones I keep seeing don't say which boons you need, just the resulting duo.

full pendant
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This isnt really about hades anymore is it

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But imo, thats ok

subtle granite
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true

maiden nexus
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can just go to

placid inlet
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it really isn’t

maiden nexus
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duo boon on hades wiki

cunning granite
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@full pendant no it’s about eggs

prisma socket
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I know, but a chart is easier to reference mid game. I don't play on pc.