h1-for-new-players

[atomic drift]

i just wanna hear them again and again whenever zagreus pick up any boons Not new but the same dialogues

they already did a fab job

[unkempt hamlet]

hades for new players

[pastel scroll]

Why do u do that on every channel

[obsidian locust]

Man's just vibin

[ocean cosmos]

Lmao

[primal basin]

i just bought this game, 1 run in, im in love

[elfin horizon]

The first boon you pick up of any god in a run will always have dialogue, and there’s a chance to hear dialogue if you get a duo or legendary (high tier) boon later on in the run

So you pick up Athena, she talks to you, but most future boons in that specific run won’t have dialogue

[atomic drift]

Is there a way to keep hearing them or reset them?

[uneven ledge]

nope

[leaden whale]

seriously tho the voice acting is so good in this game

i need a 10 hr long Meg ASMR

[drowsy plover]

Whew, Exagryph with 3 consecutive fires on special is OP

Also infinite ammo but I don't have it yet

[elfin horizon]

Zagreus’ voice tho

[leaden whale]

[elfin horizon]

The way he says ‘look what I found’

Just gets me every time

[drowsy plover]

Lol ikr

[uneven ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761220441049661442/793429795769024522/Hades_5.png

time to die :)

[drowsy plover]

Good luck

I'm still in Elysium :c

[uneven ledge]

why did he HEAL

[sly vigil]

xD

[junior otter]

Right now I'm using a flurry shot, triple shot curse of nausea bow and wow, it feels so op lol

[muted latch]

2DDs full HP you got this

[uneven ledge]

no i did not get it

[drowsy plover]

Theseus killed me again :c

[uneven ledge]

i died twice at the first phase until i finally realized it was better to just run in instead of spamming cast

[drowsy plover]

I can't get past him

[uneven ledge]

and then i died instantly to second phase

[drowsy plover]

I really suck at Theseus fight, even with 2 DDs

[uneven ledge]

get behind something when theseus is going to throw his spear at you

[drowsy plover]

I'm trying but it's hard with Exagryph

I'm always staying behind the pillars but the Minotaur gets me

As I am launching the special

[uneven ledge]

well he can't exactly hit you while you're dashing to another pillar

considering you can't even get hit at all while dashing

[drowsy plover]

Idk I have the 3 hit special and he hits me before I can land the special

I'm trying to dash but I guess my timing is really bad

[sonic gust]

theseus & asterius are really hard to beat!! i only succeeded once and then proceeded to get wasted by a giant rat after but i could suggest that you try and take out asterius first?

theseus seems easier to deal with when you dont have a raging bull coming after you

[drowsy plover]

Um yea I tried, I defeated Asterius before but Theseus got me because I had low health lol

I am always trying to stay behind the pillars and take out the Minotaur first but even if I get Theseus alone I still die 😅

[muted latch]

theseus alone is a pushover

bait his spear, he will always turn his back to you after that

[sonic gust]

ugh thats fair, Theseus gets even more annoying once he's alone – with me i had to stay quick on my feet

[drowsy plover]

It's not that he's hard, it's just that the Minotaur takes the bulk of my health and by the time I'm alone with Theseus I don't have much left

[sonic gust]

yeah, Asterius is a heavy hitter; the first time i beat em was with coronacht, so i had the advantage that i had to keep my distance and whittle him down from there

i'm sure you can achieve the same with exagryph but since its my least fave i wouldnt really know OOF

[drowsy plover]

I like Exagryph because it has heavy damage and when I upgrade it I can fire 3 special hits consecutively, but they are slow and leave me exposed

Coronacht is nice but I haven't got used to it. Last time I used it I died to one of the Furies

[sonic gust]

i actually had a rather sucessful exagryph run today after i got infinite ammo and made it until elysium and then got skewered by a longspear

[drowsy plover]

I probably like Exagryph also because it reminds me of Galleon Mortar from Bastion

Ughh ikr those bastards are tough. I just fire specials over and over to keep them away lol

[sonic gust]

but i do rather prefer coronacht over exagryph, mostly bc it was the first weapon i used to get all the way to elysium teh first time

elysium is my least favourite to fight through lmao

[zealous bison]

yooooooo
i just noticed this
http://prntscr.com/wc7p9b

[drowsy plover]

I got through Elysium the first time with Aegis. The shield is my best friend but the damage is meh

[sonic gust]

figurng out the enemy patterns in elysium is a little hard considering everything just jumps you the moment you arrive

[zealous bison]

i never realized hades supports different APIs

that's so cool

[drowsy plover]

Ohh I never saw that

[uneven ledge]

then you'll certainly enjoy the next area

[zealous bison]

um

[sonic gust]

i am Afraid

[zealous bison]

hi Afraid

i'm dad

[sonic gust]

i

thats fair

[zealous bison]

aaaaaaaaaaaanyway
back to dying, i guess

see yall on the other side

[sonic gust]

hold on; next area after Elysium is the weird satyr labyrinth, right?? bc i went there the very first time not too long ago and a giant rat got me

[sly vigil]

Correct

[zealous bison]

i love how zag remarks about giant toxic rats having gold coins in them when you get there

nice stab at a genre cliche

[sonic gust]

i love Zag's little quips during fights but it also distracts me ahdbkjbj

like EXCUSE ME BUT IM TRYING REALLY HARD TO KEEP YOU ALIVE

[zealous bison]

on a sidenote
i love this feature that shows up in your discord thingy where exactly you are

if you detect the game

good stuff

[leaden whale]

theseus and minotaur are so easy for me

i literally take no damage but then again i do spam bull rush on them

[drowsy plover]

I lost one of my DDs because of that stupid butterfly

And got insta killed. Ugh

Forever stuck in Elysium

[muted latch]

The best way to deal with the ball if you have a melee weapon is simply facetank it

Your attack destroys most of the butterflies

[zealous bison]

HWAT!?
i just got killed by a tiny vermin

this is hilarious

[karmic hamlet]

the true boss

[zealous bison]

good job on you, guys for making losing the game fun

[coral hull]

i always prioritise the butterfly ball when possible. it's only really a threat if you ignore it for too long.

ahh yes, the tiny vermin. beware.

[drowsy plover]

I got blasted by a flaming chariot 😅

[zealous bison]

i guess you could say it...
took you for a ride

[drowsy plover]

Lol yeah

[zealous bison]

down the highway to hell

boom - double puns

[drowsy plover]

I have shield. And had butterfly keepsake from Than

[zealous bison]

just met thanatos the first time
is it just me, or does he sound like royce from transistor?
might even be the same actor

also
||he's super cute ||

[drowsy plover]

Ah, 36 failed attempts. I'm doing great...

Lol ikr Than is awesome

[zealous bison]

i mean - hey - at least you didn't die to a rat on bath salts

[drowsy plover]

I didn't get there yet but surely will

Just wanna get past Elysium at once

[coral hull]

don't look at me for run numbers, i'm in the process of weaning myself off of god mode

elysium is horrible tbh, i feel your pain.
keep trying! you'll get there

[drowsy plover]

I have god mode, still sucking lol

And my shield had crazy damage then. Sometimes I did 799 hits to the Hydra

[coral hull]

honestly god mode doesn't feel that useful until the resist starts getting higher. plus elysium is still hard

and that's sweet! i don't ever get high numbers like that :pensive:

[drowsy plover]

I had Than's butterfly, one of Ares's boons and other stuff which increased attack damage

It was pretty sick

[solar panther]

If ur struggling on eylsium boons like ||euriydices acorn and skellys tooth ||would be better bc they add more survivability

Also the ||acorn|| one is great for boss fights

[prisma hinge]

Don't forget ||Cerberus' Keepsake|| which is also really nice for survivability

[solar panther]

It’s nowhere near as good as the others

But yea

[coral hull]

tbh for survival i just stick with ||cerberus's collar||. 50hp at max level, so it's pretty nice, very simple.
and i have 0 nectar again so no keepsakes for me

[leaden whale]

I mainly play sword but I'm having a hard time with escapes, do you know about any sword build I should try with ||Zagreus Aspect?||

I know most things works, but I would like to take a look at the 'meta', if that exists here.

[solar panther]

Please mark that as a spoiler

@leaden whale

Thx

[prisma hinge]

You can never go wrong with Ares

Simple, high damage abilities all around

[coral hull]

i'd suggest going to, maybe #h1-builds-and-combat for advanced advice? idk

[karmic hamlet]

do a cast build with ares

get ares cast and artemis duo, if you can get the ares legendary aswell its crazy powerful

[prisma hinge]

Ares + Athena is pretty foolproof if you can get your hands on that

[leaden whale]

how do i find fish spots?

[prisma hinge]

they randomly appear

but Zagreus will say something if there is one most of the time

[leaden whale]

how can i know if they appeared

ohhh ok

[prisma hinge]

and you can also just take a look around

in most areas the fishing spots stand out

[uneven ledge]

also make sure to listen for a "ding" sound whenever you finish an encounter

[leaden whale]

idk how they look like either

[drowsy plover]

Ah I cannot add pics

[leaden whale]

and ty for the help

[uneven ledge]

fishing is really simple and can get you good rewards

[uneven ledge]

usually something shiny in the water

[prisma hinge]

Fishing spots are small pillars of light in bodies of water iirc

[coral hull]

i need to get into the habit of looking for fishing spots tbh. i always run past them and only see them as i leave the area...

[uneven ledge]

can you fish anywhere outside of tartarus?

[prisma hinge]

yes

you can fish everywhere

[coral hull]

yep
literally anywhere

[drowsy plover]

What?? You can fish?

I didn't know that lol

[prisma hinge]

Ok so basically

[uneven ledge]

on my way to fish in the magma lakes of asphodel 😎

[prisma hinge]

after some runs

you will get a House Contractor job

called "Rod of Fishing"

[uneven ledge]

you just get a fishing rod from the contractor at some point

[drowsy plover]

Ah I haven't got it yet and I have almost 40 (failed) runs

[uneven ledge]

obviously not for free, not that it's expensive and it's quite rewarding

[prisma hinge]

You need to reach the final area to unlock it

[coral hull]

hang on, lemme check the requirements for unlocking the rod

oh ok nvm-

[drowsy plover]

Ah I cannot post a meme :c

[fathom crown]

Oh, whoa, that's right on

[leaden whale]

whats better stubborn defiance or death defiance?

[drowsy plover]

I wanted to put the "I have failed you" pic with a Thanatos image on the locker when you clear a chamber but you get hit by a trap and can't activate his keepsake

[upbeat mason]

death defiance for 80% of runs, stubborn for high heat

[fathom crown]

Depends on how you're dying. If you die in most rooms, stubborn. If you struggle with bosses, death defiance.

Personally, I'm struggling to clear the game with SD because I need more than one revive in the final fight.

[timber nexus]

What even should I do for mirror upgrades, I'm a tad stumped looking at everything and trying to find cohesion

[upbeat mason]

highest priority imo is greater reflex, followed by thick skin

most of what you want is purple, except privileged status

and fated authority but that comes later

[timber nexus]

I got that already
Uhh
Thick skin
That one's probably locked behind the 10 keys I have but forgot to use

Because I legit
Went on a run
Forgetting to do that unlock

[fathom crown]

Some of it's just preference. I really like the green money upgrade, that earns interest after each zone, but I can see the value of the purple one also

I think the two cast upgrades are high priority, since they turn casting from unimpressive to really powerful.

[timber nexus]

I keep forgetting that I can cast

Sometimes I forget I can call until the game reminds me

[fathom crown]

Infernal Soul and Stygian Soul are both nice and you gotta find your style. I usually like Stygian so I don't have to chase down and collect my gems, but both these upgrades have exclusive boons that require one or the other.

[timber nexus]

I like Stygian better too so far

[fathom crown]

Do a cast run to get it in your brain! Maybe try Dionysus, he's got a really strong cast

[timber nexus]

Cast run?

[alpine ridge]

A run focused on boons buffing your Cast

[timber nexus]

Ah

[alpine ridge]

typically using aspects that boost Cast damage, each weapon has one

then focusing on a particular Cast that each God gives you

[timber nexus]

I don't really have many aspects unlocked but uhh
Sure

I'll give it a go and stop forgetting my cast exists to use

[alpine ridge]

If I might make a suggestion, unlock the Poseidon aspect of the sword then do a run with the Zeus Cast

it's heaps of fun and pretty easy to do

[timber nexus]

And uhh sure

Idk how I managed to get so far mostly castless though
But hey
It's something

Spear is my favorite though

[errant bramble]

Achilles spear makes a great cast build

Have you gotten to the final boss yet? There’s a build to suggest if you have

[timber nexus]

No

I've gotten to Theseus and Mino though

[errant bramble]

If you want to try cast build and have no aspects yet...I’d recommend Ares Cast with Hunting Blades duo from Artemis. Try to get +1 cast boon off Chaos as well. And all the associated Blade rift buffs

Or you could try Dio cast with Zeus duo

Those are both viable without any fancy upgrades

Besides some trinkets

[reef shoal]

what's a cast build?

[raw coral]

You pick boons which improve your cast damage/utility

[karmic hamlet]

one that focuses on using the cast

best imo would be ares since he has so many duos and the legendary that increase the power of the cast to crazy levels

artemis/ares duo with are's legendary is insane

[zealous bison]

lvl2 trippy shot with 4 casts and some other stuff

[karmic hamlet]

oh yea trippy shot aswell is great

[zealous bison]

why, yes! i do like to cast all my 4 gems in the first 3 seconds of a battle, exploding everything around, dealing 400 dmg and stacking hungover, thank you

[drowsy plover]

Yesss finally defeated Theseus even tho he summoned Ares's power and covered the whole arena in massive red pools yeee

Had Zeus' aid and jolted effect

[karmic hamlet]

noice gz!

[drowsy plover]

Helped quite a bit

Ty

[zealous bison]

also - quick question
who has the worst call and why is it ||aphrodite|| ?

[drowsy plover]

Now I'm preparing to die by rats

[raw coral]

Don't tho

Don't stand under where they spawn, the attack instantly

[zealous bison]

[errant bramble]

Aphro not the worst. Demeter is. Try full bar Aphro call against bosses sometime

[drowsy plover]

Aphrodite call is op tbh

[zealous bison]

it is? where?
i must've missed it

[raw coral]

It's decent burst

Does well in clearing mobs

[drowsy plover]

When you call her she turns one of the enemies on your side

For a few seconds at least

[raw coral]

Yes and those enemies do increased damage

[zealous bison]

yeah i know, but...
it rarely comes useful when i need it the most
as in - during bossfights

which are mostly 1v1
so there's rarely anyone else to turn

[raw coral]

The full charge does like 2.5k dmg

[drowsy plover]

It helped me during Hydra boss fight tho

[zealous bison]

wait hwat

[errant bramble]

The full charge just deletes the boss lol

But sure

[drowsy plover]

I turned one of the heads against the others

[zealous bison]

[raw coral]

Yea, try charging the bar all the way and use it lol

[zealous bison]

ok, i changed my mind

[solar panther]

Is there a way to figure out how much total hp bosses have?

[raw coral]

Tooltips man, read them lul

[zealous bison]

will do

[drowsy plover]

And you can also turn Asterius on your side with Aphrodite's aid

Not so useless I can say

[raw coral]

Yea, if timed correctly Asterius can pound Theseus

[zealous bison]

nah - reading is passe
i crave violence

[raw coral]

haha fair enough

[errant bramble]

Reading tool tips. A+

Using Aphro call to kill Theseus before he stops summoning a God is fun

[drowsy plover]

Bruhh I have to fight Cerberus? Oof

[errant bramble]

He has a weakness.

[drowsy plover]

Which is?

[coral hull]

theseus is a pain ngl. can he please just not take so long to die, do you know how many insults that guy can throw out while you chip at his hp

[errant bramble]

@drowsy plover you’ll figure it out

[fathom crown]

The most deadliest opponent Zagreus must face

[errant bramble]

He wrecks me every time

[coral hull]

but... what about the dreaded ||tiny vermin||? it's just too powerful for me to ever beat.

[fathom crown]

Wrecks my heart

[drowsy plover]

Bruh I cleared an entire room for nothing

Now I have 4 left

Do I have to go through all of this to get past Cerberus? XD

[fathom crown]

|| yes ||

Wait, I should clarify

[drowsy plover]

Ah. More rats to be jolted then lmao

[errant bramble]

You’ll find out

[fathom crown]

|| you have to clear 2 to 5(?) tunnels to proceed. The first one you choose will never be the correct one ||

[drowsy plover]

Ohhh I guess I'm noob haha

Charon boons are so expensive

[fathom crown]

The pricier ones are higher quality

[drowsy plover]

I'm at the door, ready to die

[errant bramble]

Man how did you beat Cerberus? I never can

[fathom crown]

Doggo's moves are blinding fast, can't ever follow them. It's over before I know what happened

[drowsy plover]

Yep I died

Got him once then he healed. Ugh

Wrecked me even with my 2 DDs

[fathom crown]

You got to ||second phase your first time fighting Hades||? That's really good!

[drowsy plover]

Yes I got to 2nd phase but I lost my 2 DDs in the first one

Ah well I bought more darkness, soon enough I'll have 3

[leaden whale]

You can respec your purchases that you made for 1 cthonic key @drowsy plover

[drowsy plover]

I had Billowing Strength, it's pretty OP if you get boons from Zeus

I can?

Anyway getting ready to die in Elysium again because I'm lucky like that

Is Broken Spearpoint good btw?

[rich cave]

Yes

[analog radish]

no

athena holy shild>spearpoint

[rich cave]

One is a boon and the other is a keepsake

[analog radish]

they do the same thing

basicaly

and holy shild is better

because no recharge

[drowsy plover]

Owl Pendant is Athena's keepsake

[analog radish]

yes but how is that relivant

[rich cave]

You can also get ||acorn|| from ||euridiance|| which makes you impervious to the first 3, 4, or 5 hits during the boss depending on what level you have the keepsake at

[analog radish]

i wouldsay

[drowsy plover]

Oh yeah I have that. It's still at level 1 but I could try it

[analog radish]

use achorn for final boss

[rich cave]

If I were you I’d use Athena’s keepsake in the first or second floor to try to get holy shield then

[leaden whale]

final boss isn't that hard if im being honest

[drowsy plover]

I had ||Than's butterfly|| but it only helps in the early stages of the game. In the later ones you end up taking damage for some reason

[leaden whale]

if you target the bosses

skulls

[rich cave]

It depends on what build you have

His keepsake sucks

[drowsy plover]

Can I change keepsakes during the run?

[analog radish]

butterfly is not great

[rich cave]

Yes

[leaden whale]

yes

between each area

[analog radish]

the damage boost is good

[rich cave]

If you have the house contractor upgrade

[analog radish]

but if u change it

[leaden whale]

where the fountain is

[analog radish]

u lose the buff

[drowsy plover]

I don't :(

[leaden whale]

adamant rail goat

use that

instant win

[drowsy plover]

Last time I used rail I died to Theseus

[leaden whale]

use the aspect of eris for more damage

[drowsy plover]

Only got my way through the final boss with shield

[leaden whale]

you could put on god mode and go against him just dodging his attacks

build that muscle memory

[analog radish]

use shild

it most "noobfriendly"

im not saying ur a noob

just its easy to use

[rich cave]

Yeah shield is the easiest to use because it can block

[drowsy plover]

No worries I'm a noob. I have almost 40 unsuccessful runs in god mode. Still trying to figure it out

[analog radish]

yes

what % is ur god mode?

[drowsy plover]

36

[errant bramble]

Broken Spearpoint is very good if you have issues dodging poison in Styx

[analog radish]

spearpoint isn't good for final boss

so no

[leaden whale]

shield is good for a tank build

[analog radish]

not good for styx

[leaden whale]

just get

a bunch of centaur hearts lol

[analog radish]

no?

[leaden whale]

and have like 635 hp

win

[analog radish]

||excalibur||

[errant bramble]

It is if you’re specifically having issues with poison, as I said.

[leaden whale]

it's a joke dude @analog radish

[analog radish]

k

[errant bramble]

If dodging poison let’s you get to final boss with extra DD bc you usually lose then to poison, then it’s good.

Just depends what you are better at dodging

[leaden whale]

you should camp around the poison cure fountains

[analog radish]

u know how u not take poison damage

drink founten

[leaden whale]

yeah

[analog radish]

also still

by point still stands

holy shild>spearpoint

so its like

[drowsy plover]

I didn't lose any DD to poison and it was my first time in Styx lol

[analog radish]

u have spearpoint

[rich cave]

Try to get divine dash so you can deflect poison

[analog radish]

and an extra keepsake

[leaden whale]

final boss is just

[drowsy plover]

I've been dying to Theseus up to this point

[leaden whale]

focus the skulls

[analog radish]

theseus

use zeus

ez win

[leaden whale]

zeus is good yeah

[analog radish]

becuase lightning

not get efect my shild

[leaden whale]

i tried using the aphro call on him and he called me a cheater

[analog radish]

so u can hit theseus

he does that if u use max call

[leaden whale]

yeah i did

[analog radish]

yes

also

things that go through walls

[drowsy plover]

Yea Zeus aid helped me in Theseus fight

[analog radish]

r good agengst theseus

"go through"

[rich cave]

I use Artemis’s call because the greater call does a lot of damage

[analog radish]

not literaly go through

but like

bombs and stuf

https://tenor.com/view/trying-to-be-funny-fast-typing-focused-bruce-almighty-jim-carrey-gif-17316412

https://tenor.com/view/spell-check-confused-recognize-your-word-no-spell-check-gif-12678454

[limber coral]

For theseus it depend of your build, in lots of situation Its better to focus the minotaur, but of you have zeus aspect for the shield you can just let your shield on theseus since he don’t move a lot then you can fight the minotaur and theseus

And theseus will take damage when you are fighting the minotaur

Btw you can use their attacks to hurt them between one and other

[rich cave]

I’d try to not trigger Theseus’s call until after I kill the Minotaur though

[limber coral]

Theseus can hurt minotaur, and minotaur can hurt theseus

Try to exploit that if you have not very good build or you don’t know well to fight them

[drowsy plover]

Why do some weapons not have DD

I tried with Coronacht and died the first time

[zealous bison]

wait, wait wait wait
hold the phone

did i just unlock... a machinegun?

with a nade launcher, no less

[drowsy plover]

Exagryph is cool

Reminds me of galleon mortar from Bastion

And the other one, can't remember its name

Fang repeater

[errant bramble]

Uhh all weapons have DD

Perhaps you switched DD to stubborn in mirror and you don’t have stubborn

[drowsy plover]

Ah nvm I was noob and switched to Stubborn Defiance which I do not have upgraded

[errant bramble]

So you turned it off basically

[drowsy plover]

Yeah my bad

[prisma mauve]

Hell mode is nice

Ngl

[analog radish]

hello

[zealous bison]

oh my god, this gun has some potential

with that upgrade that lets me fire the nade launcher three times in a row
i could double down on my trippy shot build

and just spam explosives everywhere

[analog radish]

gus

gun

is good

[drowsy plover]

Ugh stupid witches

I lost one DD bc of them

[analog radish]

gun has 3 hamers

that r great combo

the rocket

[drowsy plover]

Oh yeah that's good

[analog radish]

the triple bomb one

and the one that lets u fire 5 bombs at once

u can maby get it with anvil

[reef shoal]

I'm doing a zag stygian blade run for the heck of it and I was wondering which artemis boon should I choose first? Attack or cast?

[fathom crown]

Triple grenade with Ares on special is very solid

[timber nexus]

I had a really fun run
Decided to actually use my cast and luck had it that Dionysus decided to show up a lot so I got the Festive Fog and also the one that buffs your attacks to inflict drunk
Had Poseidon on dash
It was hella fun because I was just
Master of booze and water
But sadly, Theseus and Mino got me again but I did get Mino to 50% hp before dying

Master of booze is mmm

Everything gets drunk!

[zealous bison]

now i have a burst-firing rocket launcher

i'm basically a cyberdemon now

oh this is awesome

[leaden whale]

greek ruiner

[drowsy plover]

Yea I'm gonna die in Elysium. I've been so close

[errant bramble]

Tesla: Artemis attack and cast are not close. Artemis attack is about 1000x better unless you are using exactly a Cast related aspect

And you aren’t

[reef shoal]

I chose attack

And aphro special

and poseidon dash

nothing for cast yet

is cursed slash worth it on zag aspect blade?

[fathom crown]

Yes

Cursed Slash is ridiculous

[reef shoal]

that hammer upgrade is keeping me from completing the sygian blade prophecies xD

I'm too afraid to choose something different and risk losing my run

[fathom crown]

Given the option, would I ever not take Cursed Slash? No, I wouldn't never not take it

[drowsy plover]

Ugh stupid butterfly ball

I lost my DDs again, just after getting them back from Patroclus

[fathom crown]

I hope you're keeping Patroclus stocked up with nectar, it's the least you could do to pay him back

The real MVP of so many runs

[reef shoal]

Which god has the best cast in your opinion?

I like Dionysius's

[fathom crown]

Depends?

[reef shoal]

oh it depends?

[uneven ledge]

family favorite or privileged status?

[reef shoal]

priv

always priv

[drowsy plover]

Ugh. Imagine reaching the final boss then the next run some kamikaze chariot explodes and poof

[uneven ledge]

demeter's cast can rack up a lot of damage

[drowsy plover]

Stuck in Elysium again

[fathom crown]

I like Dionysus, Zeus, sometimes Poseidon, sometimes ||Demeter||

Artemis can be a lot better than it seems, as a cast.

Bypasses shields.

[reef shoal]

uh oh

aphro/poseidon duo

[fathom crown]

Best* pals*

[sharp arrow]

So i just bought this game on my switch and its really good. Too bad I accidentally sold one of the upgrades because I wasn't reading it properly. Enjoying it so far

[timber nexus]

Oof

Well, regardless
Welcome to Hades
I too, am new

Pretty new

[sharp arrow]

Sold the Aphrodite upgrade then died to lava.

[reef shoal]

How hard is ||EM4||

[rich cave]

It’s pretty hard but as long as you get good boons and hammer upgrades and have all your death defiances it’s doable

[zealous bison]

just got to the ||last boss|| again

i, uhhh...
i'm not in control with the situation at hand

it's gonna take a few more attempts before i beat him again

[lone nova]

Yah i haven't had an oops I won run yet

I'm 0/7 on the fight now though. I'm getting a better grasp

[drowsy plover]

Yea same here I'm at the last boss but lost when I got him to half in his second phase

I'm gonna take a break, 2 final boss runs is a bit much 😅

But I'm sad I can't see Meg in the house anymore, I was so close to starting the romance with her heh

[keen oracle]

Just beat ||Theseus/asterius|| for the first time... and than beat ||hades|| the same run

[ebon ermine]

Is urge to kill or battle rage better

And what's better for bosses

[uneven ledge]

show me your secrets

[fathom crown]

Who's a fan of the Twin Fists and can give me a pointer or a good build or something? I'm struggling with stuff that's close-range

[rich cave]

I try to get effects that last on attack and ones that do a lot of damage like doom on special

[silk swift]

Favorite is better most of the time

[rich cave]

Also try to get ||freeze|| effects because if an enemy is slower it’s much easier to attack them

[reef shoal]

So yeah I just beat ||the armored soul catcher|| without any of the exalted shades reaching their bodies.

[fathom crown]

I'm currently halfway through a magnetic fists run with Long Knuckle, Aphrodite special, and chain lightning attack, and still eating dirt way too much, and it's got me worried I'm missing something basic

[fading night]

is it only me that loves zegreus's voice

[winter moat]

No I love it too

[drowsy plover]

Gotta love how Zag has a shade who supports him in the Theseus fight

[errant bramble]

@fathom crown I stopped doing it bc it feels like cheating, but at lower difficulties just do max Aspect of Zagreus plus Lambent Plume. Whatever else you do almost doesn’t matter

[fathom crown]

Always acknowledge ||the Red Shade|| after the fight

[fathom crown]

Oh, that's a good synergy

[errant bramble]

You get to final boss with like 40-60% dodge

[fathom crown]

That's probably worth the five blood

[errant bramble]

I assume it stops working at some point

Bc you won’t be able to clear fast enough to trigger plume

[fathom crown]

Probably. I just need a fist clear for the "once with every weapon" prophecy

[errant bramble]

Oh yeah fist zag aspect is worth the 5 blood

I think it’s the only one really

[keen oracle]

I had an epic greatest reflex, Poseidon’s dash, his riptide passive, the one that makes knock back do more damage against bosses, and his legendary, than I just dashed until the bosses died

[drowsy plover]

Ugh lost my DDs to the stupid rats

This run gonna suck

[uneven ledge]

ok so just spam dash and dash-strikes

cool

[drowsy plover]

Me getting through 2nd phase with 28 hp left and no DD. Oof

I just can't

[fathom crown]

Really, I've been on the fence about Zag sword.

[leaden whale]

its not good but it can be fun

[errant bramble]

I think the main issue there is all the sword builds except hidden are dash strike based

[leaden whale]

nemesis is p much just a straight upgrade

hidden can b dash strike if u get double edge

[drowsy plover]

I'm having a hard time trying dash strike because of my keyboard. I guess controller users might find it easier

[timber nexus]

Zag's voice is mmmm

You're not the only one

[errant bramble]

@drowsy plover now that you got the first few bosses btw, you should try healing off 60% of darkness instead of the Cthonic vitality, if you haven’t already.

It might be better for you

[drowsy plover]

Yeah I did that

Thank you

[rich cave]

I thought rail against ||hades|| would be hard but I didn’t lose a single death defiance lmao

That’s the second weapon I beat on my only attempt with it

I also got really good boons though

I got dio’s that refills your health to 50% after every room

[fathom crown]

I dislike vanilla rail, but it's got some absolutely wild hammers possible

[rich cave]

I fully upgraded zag aspect for extra ammo

[fathom crown]

My winning run with the rail, I don't think I even attacked. It was rocket spam and ||Demeter|| casts all day, night, whatever

[rich cave]

Only hammer upgrades I got were accurate shot and the one that makes it ricochet

And I had ares’s call

[ebon ermine]

Is empowering flight good

[rich cave]

All of my boons were rare and up because I got a chaos boon that increased the chance of getting rare boons by 40% along with the mirror upgrade that does the same thing

[ebon ermine]

Zag aspect

[fathom crown]

I gotta say, I have not found a use for Ares' call.

[rich cave]

It was the last boon I found and I didn’t have a call yet

[fathom crown]

I think I would rather have pretty much any other. Is that just me, or is it rough

[ebon ermine]

Should I take empowering flight dashing wallop or FG

[rich cave]

What do each of them do

[errant bramble]

Ah when your down 1 DD and your choice is Patty or miniboss with God you want

[reef shoal]

I don't know which Ares boon to get. Blade Dash, Urge to Kill, or Curse of Vengeance. I'm using blade.

[fathom crown]

Have you tried them all out already?

[reef shoal]

yeah

[rich cave]

I would get vengeance

Since you’re using sword you’re probably going to get hit most when you’re close to enemies

[errant bramble]

depends on if it’s your first thing too. But yeah revenge is fine

[solar panther]

ive now lost to final boss 5 times in a row

[drowsy plover]

Bruh this vermin boss took one of my DDs

[sly vigil]

It's just a rat

[drowsy plover]

Just a rat... yeah

With 1 DD lol

[fathom crown]

Spoiler-tag the bosses identity, but, congrats! Well done

What was the winning build

[drowsy plover]

Shield + Dionysus festive fog + Artemis chasing arrows + Ares call

Festive fog did a lot of damage on him

[fathom crown]

Nice. Love that fog.

Guess you remembered you can cast, then, huh? :)

[drowsy plover]

Lol yea I had cast in a previous build too but I couldn't use it because I had low hp

But I've grown to love cast. It complements shield well

And with the right boons it can be very deadly

[fathom crown]

Now go ||talk to yer mom|| and check for new ||prophecies you've unlocked||

[drowsy plover]

Alrighty. I did have God mode so it helped a bit but around 40%

Ah well. Next time I'ma try without it

[native ember]

Is there any way to make a Daedalus Hammer spawn on the start of the run

[thorny bobcat]

can't force it but it can happen

[zealous bison]

i did it!

finally!

exactly on my 20th run

and man - what a fight that was
turns out that cast-centric build i was going for worked out
4 trippy shots + a volley of nades did wonders
and every other boon went into speed and deflect and stuff
so i was just zip-zooping all over the place

while other bossfights made my hands shake like crazy
this time they felt legit numb

[drowsy plover]

Yaayy grats!!

Feel ya. I was like fog fog fog everywhere lol

[zealous bison]

now...
let's turn up the heat!

[drowsy plover]

WEEE

[zealous bison]

what helped was...
cranking the volume all the way up
and i don't mean just setting windows volume to a 100
i mean turning off windows sonic to make the thing got just a bit louder,
tweaking some stuff in the control panel
and hooking up a bigger, louder bluetooth headset and cranking that all the way up too

this can't be healthy, can it?

but man this soundtrack slaps
good job, SGGs - you made the game of the year, AGAIN
i mean it - this is the most fun thing i've done this year
||and i played nier automata this year too||

now go and make a horror game already

[timber nexus]

This is a horror game
For the shades, anyway

[lone nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459702904400379904/793596627771326525/20201229_154911.jpg

This feels cheaty af

But only in world 2, so we see

But i just wasted a DD to a trial blehhhh

[timber nexus]

...Should I put God Mode on just to get through story stuff oooor keep throwing myself at the game?

[lone nova]

I'm gonna keep throwing myself

But like, do what's good for your mental health

Imo

[timber nexus]

Idk what's good for me

[lone nova]

If it's not fun dying and bothering you

God mode it up

[timber nexus]

It is fun dying
Just not really to the same boss repeatedly

[keen oracle]

What boss you dying to?

[timber nexus]

I can't really learn Theseus and the Mino fast enough for my taste

:c

[keen oracle]

Have you tried focusing on the Mino first, and than after he is dead moving onto Theseus?

[timber nexus]

Yea

Mino is hell

Especially when he does that rush thing

[keen oracle]

If you get the Hermes boon that increases the amount of dodges you get the rush is MUCH easier to dodge

[zealous bison]

keep at it @timber nexus

[timber nexus]

I have 2 dashes and I can barely dodge it

[zealous bison]

it sure was just as hard for me
but it was a fun learning experience

and every run will teach you something new

[timber nexus]

Aaalright

[zealous bison]

here's a little tip - he's not even that hard to dodge
if you don't panic, stay cool and all that you might notice that he's... not all that fast
and one dodge - when used right - is more than enough to stay at a safe distance

[marble shadow]

After Asterius does the 2 swings and is about to dash in your direction, dash towards Asterius and smack it from the back after Asterius lands

[timber nexus]

Hmm

I'll try

[drowsy plover]

I use shield, he has 4 attack moves, block and then hit him right when he finishes his full attack pattern

Or dodge if you don't have shield

[winter spire]

Well I tried going for Asterius first today and it failed so badly

I guess I'll just have to go for Theasus first xD

[normal arrow]

No. Do not

[errant bramble]

Lol you can try

[normal arrow]

Always chip away at Asterius first

[errant bramble]

You will learn quickly

[winter spire]

The only times I've been able to do it is going for Theasus first

Well all the times lmao

[normal arrow]

Wow

You're able to get through that?

GG

[winter spire]

I have like never failed the fight like that xD

[normal arrow]

It's really difficult to go for theseus first bc he releases a God's power halfway through and if it's demeter you're screwed 😬

or athena

[swift hawk]

Separate them so you're not fighitng both at the same time

[winter spire]

I like to get rid of Theasus cause Idk why I have so much trouble dodging his spear which is funny cause Im find dodging ANYWHERE else

Well I do that anyways

I dont hit Theasus when the other dude is around usually

[normal arrow]

That too, but it's not easy to hit Theseus

[errant bramble]

You can’t dodge the spear but you can dodge global explosions?

[swift hawk]

Do you get hit by his spear more or his spinning attack more?

[winter spire]

Spear

[normal arrow]

He has that dumb shield

[swift hawk]

Oh

The spear is just not wanting to take it to the face heh

Hide!

[winter spire]

I try

lmao

[swift hawk]

If you're getting hit by the spin more, you should kite him more. Keep distance so he walks away from you slowly and toss things at him

[normal arrow]

Spinning attack is annoying when modified with Athena power

The range is stupid large

[winter spire]

I honestly rarely get hit my spinning attacks xD

[normal arrow]

But I usually get hit more with the spear

40 damage 😬

[swift hawk]

Ah, then spear to da face

[normal arrow]

If I'm not careful

[winter spire]

The only time I really get hit with spinning attacks on the final boss cause I am too focused on the skulls lmao

[normal arrow]

Ugh

Hades spin attack

Sooo bad

[winter spire]

I get so nervous of the skull cause the build I go for like usually I only have 100 health

And it works

But those skulls can kill so fast

[normal arrow]

Skull makes you take double damage

So the spin attack deals 80

[winter spire]

SO THATS WHAT IT DOES

I mean the skull if it blows up does damage

[dapper steppe]

just got the game and love it. Quick question about the dash though
does it have invulnerability iframe?

[winter spire]

I never knew it made you take double

[dapper steppe]

or i do just have to dash away from attacks

[normal arrow]

Yup, dash basically makes you impervious when you use it

Like attacks go through your dash

But it's really quick

[dapper steppe]

i see thats good to hear

[marble shadow]

Just like gungeon dash

[normal arrow]

Best dash modifier is divine dash tho

Keep that in mind

[marble shadow]

But less difficult game :))

[errant bramble]

Dash strike loses your iframe. You have to dash without attack if you want invul

[leaden whale]

hunter dash is the best dash for sword and bow

[drowsy plover]

Oh dear there are so many endings and I just got one... in 42 attempts. Ugh

It's gonna be a long journey

[errant bramble]

Do you get 2 Hermes per run even if you see one in a shop? Or does that mean I’ll see 3

[drowsy plover]

And Theseus kept summoning Athena in my latest runs. Definitely annoying

[lone nova]

Ok so. If im using bow and Chiron aspect. If my special has doom, is that 4 doom procs or how does that work?

[errant bramble]

Doom procs once.

[lone nova]

Ahh boo

[errant bramble]

But there’s a ares boon that makes it deal more dmg for more applications

So that’s something you could do with Chiron

[drowsy plover]

Hooo boy I just got killed by ||Charon|| because I tried to ||"borrow" some gold||. Fun times

I didn't even know that this was a thing 😅

[main patio]

Hey friends 👀 Any tips for fighting Hades? I've escaped twice but I just never seem to deal enough damage or take too many hits, even with 4 death defiance

Like, the entire run is just easy mode until I get to Hades himself and then I just die on his second phase

[zealous bison]

||hug your dad to win the game||

[main patio]

i do not understand but ill keep it in mind

[tawny lava]

They mean that when he does that big fire laser

Get really close to him

Dash through

[zealous bison]

literally just him when he does that

[tawny lava]

Oh wait wait sorry

[tawny lava]

Yeah!

Hug him tightly

[lone nova]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Had him to like 1/8th health and I suicided

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459702904400379904/793625462705356850/20201229_174359.jpg

I had my aid up too.

It was overrrrr

[normal arrow]

Demeter is 10x worse

It's hard to see her attacks

[timber nexus]

Gh!
I just almost beat Mino and Theseus on my last run
The advice helped a lot!
But I still got sniped because I moved too slowly. Theseus was at like-maybe 10% hp left? It was clooose

[rain storm]

you want to use the pillars to keep him away from you and ideally be using a ranged weapon.

[main patio]

I do this, but maybe im just doing it wrong in a way

[rain storm]

In the 2nd phase, keep him in sight so you can see when he stops moving and charges up for his energy blast, just hide behind a pillar.

Do you have double dash?

Try and get a 3rd one if you can from Hermes

[timber nexus]

No shame in hiding

[rain storm]

Use the chaos shield and you can block just about everything I think.

[winter spire]

Sigh I did the final boss once and I cant do it again and its very frusterating

I just can't do enough damage fast enough

I did it once and really Im not sure how I did it Ik honestly the only reason I could was because my Artemis's call did so much damage

But like I cant do it again

[rain storm]

A big part of this game is how you combine your boons etc. I'm not expert, but there is a certain luck aspect.

[winter spire]

Oh yeah def

[old skiff]

You can block with any shield by holding down the charge button and pointing your shield infront of any hits

It isn’t only chaos

[bronze glacier]

Anyone have Hydra strats before I charge in a third time and nearly die? I don't remember my exact build atm

[zealous bison]

question

[coral hull]

honestly one reason i like this game so much is i can go from murdering the wretched souls of the undead and fighting a hydra to decorating a house and throwing gifts at everyone i can

it's fun :shadesmile:

[zealous bison]

why does the centaur's heart have a quake 3 arena logo in it?

[drowsy plover]

Anyone beat ||Charon||? Not that I want to get on their bad side again but eh

[old skiff]

Try to use a long range weapon to stay safe and hide behind the pillars

Idk what else to say

||Charon|| is pretty easy using shield

[bronze glacier]

I'm 99% sure I have the bow since I greatly prefer ranged combat most of the time

[old skiff]

Is this your first time fighting the hydra?

[bronze glacier]

Third attempt, but it'd be my first success if I kill it this time lol

[old skiff]

How many runs have you done thus far?

[bronze glacier]

I think overall something like 23-24?

[old skiff]

If you’ve done a low amount I recommend just slowing down a bit and upgrading your Mirror

Eh just make sure to get lots of death defiance

[coral hull]

focus on the big head until it summons the little ones.
prioritise the green ones, they spawn more enemies, then just work your way through the heads one by one. rinse n repeat, remember to keep dashing to avoid most of the projectiles

[bronze glacier]

You can get more than one

[old skiff]

You can also memorise what stuff each of the hydra heads do

[bronze glacier]

what

wait

[old skiff]

Yes

You get 3

[bronze glacier]

You can get more than one

BRUH

[old skiff]

Yes

4 if you use skelly’s tooth

You can actually get a max of 5 in a run

[leaden whale]

is there a hard cap?

[old skiff]

You can’t get any more than 5 death defiance I believe

[leaden whale]

hmm yeah now that I think about it

[bronze glacier]

I use the Spiked Collar when I'm doing more serious runs trying to clear new areas instead of just collecting resources but omfg I had no idea I could get more than one 😂

[old skiff]

Skellys tooth is better than spiked collar tbh

[leaden whale]

even with SD there's only two athena boons, a chaos DD, and skelly

spiked collar with 3 DDs = 125 hp

[old skiff]

Athena doesn’t boost your stubborn defiance

Only skelly and chaos can do that

[coral hull]

first time i fought hydra i swear almost all of the lil heads were green. absolute nightmare
||and now almost always the big one is||

[leaden whale]

she can give u an extra defiance if you lose it in the same room as her boon

[old skiff]

Oh yeah

[bronze glacier]

Where are you getting 125hp from? You upgrade it the more you use it and mine is currently at max

[old skiff]

She can

[drowsy plover]

Yea I was dumb enough to try to fight him with spear, which I really suck at

[old skiff]

Ah yeah don’t use close range weapons against them

[bronze glacier]

Spear is the try-hard weapon lol

[leaden whale]

50 hp for your first life then 25 extra for every defiance @microwave

[old skiff]

Not really-

Gun is try hard weapon

Or maybe fists

[leaden whale]

since each DD is worth 50% of your hp

[drowsy plover]

Idk how people use fists, I can't get past the Furies with them

[leaden whale]

use athena or zeus attack

[old skiff]

Just spam dash

[bronze glacier]

Yeah but you said 3 DDs and I think that's where I got confused lol

[old skiff]

I’ve never heard of people using Zeus attack on fists?

[coral hull]

punch a lot ig

[leaden whale]

its busted

[bronze glacier]

Also yes spam the Dash, preferably with some kind of damage effect attached to it

[leaden whale]

room clear is insane

[drowsy plover]

I can't do dash attack or dash special, it's hard for me to time them right

[old skiff]

You can do infinite attacks with the fists

[bronze glacier]

You just relentlessly bully the furies by zapping em lol

[leaden whale]

fists u basically just

[old skiff]

I believe it’s punch 5 times dash strike then repeat

[leaden whale]

hold attack then dash after 5 hits

through the enemy

[bronze glacier]

Maybe it's a timing thing but I usually can only get 3 hits off on Meg before she moves again

[old skiff]

I’d recommend Demeter, Aphrodite and Artemis with fists

[leaden whale]

dionysus attack on fists goes stupid

[drowsy plover]

Idk Hydra is the easiest boss for me

[rain storm]

What gods/boons are good for shield?

[drowsy plover]

Just gotta make sure I don't dash into lava lmao

[old skiff]

Which aspect of shield?

[rain storm]

I just unlocked chaos

[drowsy plover]

I have Zagreus and Chaos

[old skiff]

With chaos use dio

[leaden whale]

ares special on shield

[rain storm]

got 3 shields on the bullrush throw

[old skiff]

Use Dionysius

[bronze glacier]

Yeah I like Ares with Shield a lot

[coral hull]

aren't ||aspects|| spoilers in this channel

[leaden whale]

only hidden iirc

[old skiff]

Only hidden ones

Yeah

[coral hull]

oh k

[old skiff]

Only final boss and after are spoilers

[rain storm]

So doom on the special

[old skiff]

Just go for Dionysius

[rain storm]

Why?

[old skiff]

I wouldn’t recommend Doom on special for new players

You need a specific boon from Ares for it to work

[bronze glacier]

Doom is such a good status effect

[leaden whale]

special does like 15 damage by default

so I like putting doom on it

[coral hull]

doom's good for hit and run imo. i have terrible luck at getting ares boons though

[old skiff]

Doom kinda sucks

[bronze glacier]

Doom Attack on a bow is unholy and I love it

Keep some Nectar on hand and give some to Ares next time you find him

[old skiff]

Unless you get the boon where it stacks it’s very bad

[leaden whale]

I also like doom on zag/hera bow special

[old skiff]

Heh nectar I haven’t used that in ages

[leaden whale]

light hits that you use intermittently

[old skiff]

I’ve maxed out all friendships :)

[coral hull]

bold of you to assume i have nectar

[old skiff]

I just have a nectar collection and I don’t need it

[leaden whale]

dionysus special chiron is basically a free win

[errant bramble]

Can I complain if I have no DD, buy one from Charon, and then get Patty immediately? I can still complain right

[leaden whale]

time for hydralite gold babey

[old skiff]

I just realised something

Pat’s damaging thingy magigy is so bad

[leaden whale]

lmao

[old skiff]

Getting death defiance back and healing is way more better

[bronze glacier]

I've been playing for like 2 days lol. I have such a hard time finding Nectar lmao

[old skiff]

I don’t think I’ve ever picked it 💀

I’ve played Hades for 144 hours-

[leaden whale]

I've picked it on boonless runs

[old skiff]

I have all the steam achievements

[leaden whale]

and runs where I'm steamrolling

[old skiff]

I just finished them all yesterday

Oh trueee

But except that not really any point

[coral hull]

you think i ever don't need more dds in elysium? i think i went for hydralite gold, like, once

[old skiff]

Elysium kinda easy

[leaden whale]

elysium is the hardest region imo

[timber nexus]

I've been playing for about 20 hours and almost killed Theseus and the Mino...

Almost

[leaden whale]

u can do it

[timber nexus]

Elysium is hard

But I'm ok with it

[old skiff]

For the Theseus and Minotaur fight use Aphrodite call on Minotaur

[bronze glacier]

I keep dying in Asphodel lol

[old skiff]

Then he just shreds his friend apart

[coral hull]

its the bow men
and the shield men
and every other elysium enemy

[old skiff]

Elysium is hard and all

[leaden whale]

elysium usually isn't too bad. but when it's bad it's BAD

[old skiff]

BUT THE SHIELD GUYS

I HATE THEM

WHY AND HOW ARE YOU CARRYING AROUND A BIG ASS SHIELD

[leaden whale]

like i think it has the most potential of being a slog of any region

[coral hull]

they're just discount theseus

[leaden whale]

other than 5 sack styx

[bronze glacier]

I haven't made it that far yet but can't you just zip behind em and shoot them in the back?

[old skiff]

Whatever Elysium is worth it because you get to see the good shade

[leaden whale]

shield guys are more dangerous than theseus

[old skiff]

Yeah you can but they thrn around

And have health

And can respawn

[leaden whale]

and armor

[old skiff]

And there’s like 10 of them

[hardy oyster]

whats the best weapon?

[old skiff]

AND THEY ATTACK

[bronze glacier]

Lovely

[leaden whale]

there is no best weapon

[old skiff]

There’s no best weapon

Everything is good

[leaden whale]

use what ur comfy with

[old skiff]

cough cough Eris gun

[bronze glacier]

Best weapon is whatever you're most proficient with

I HATE THE GUN

[leaden whale]

gun grew on me

[old skiff]

That’s what I thought when I started

SAME

[leaden whale]

hestia aspect c:

[old skiff]

I feel like everyone despised the gun at the start

[hardy oyster]

how do i unlock aspects?

[leaden whale]

unlock every weapon

[old skiff]

Unlock all the weapons

[hardy oyster]

okay ty

[old skiff]

Then get Titan blood and spend it

[bronze glacier]

It's so awkward and I just went straight back to my bow lol

[leaden whale]

your choices will be limited at the start

[bronze glacier]

Unlock the bow first

[old skiff]

Yeah

[sonic gust]

its either stygius or malphon for me

[leaden whale]

word of advice

[coral hull]

honestly i just try and spear shield guys in the back if i still have the recall thing when i'm at elysium
if i changed it for explode throw then i just give up hope

[leaden whale]

don't put any blood into zag spear lol

good aspects at lv 1 are nemesis/poseidon, achilles, zeus, hera, and talos

imo at least

[hardy oyster]

can you get the bloods back? if you put it in a wrong weapon?

[old skiff]

I have max blood on every weapon

[leaden whale]

nop

[old skiff]

Nope you can’t

[sonic gust]

i dont really get the talos aspect, but i do like nemesis

[bronze glacier]

I might be treading into personal spoiler territory but aspects?? I've unlocked all the weapons but haven't really played around with upgrading anything yet

[leaden whale]

if you click "give up" it'll load your last save tho

aspects are different forms of the infernal arms that you unlock+upgrade with Titan blood

[hardy oyster]

do you have a limited mounts of bloods or can you farm then infinitly?

[old skiff]

You can try out aspects by testing them against skelly or going into a match then leaving the game

[leaden whale]

each weapon has 4 forms, each with their own special attributes

[old skiff]

Limited

[leaden whale]

Titan blood isn't limited

[old skiff]

You can only get what like 6 Titan blood at the start at max?

[leaden whale]

u can get it thru trading, fishing, styx shop

[old skiff]

Yeah do you won’t have much

[hardy oyster]

i like the bow, not sure about the gun. what aspects do yall recomend?

[old skiff]

Blade lol

[coral hull]

whatever you like the most

[bronze glacier]

Fishing???

[old skiff]

Yes you can fish

[leaden whale]

house contractor upgrade

[sonic gust]

i had my first fishing opportunity yesterday and i blew it lmfao

[old skiff]

But you’re confusing all of these people with the later game stuff

[bronze glacier]

Yup I knew almost immediately that was my fault for ignoring the house contracts lmao

[leaden whale]

yeah my b lol

[bronze glacier]

Oh is fishing late-game lol

[old skiff]

You can also get infinite Titan blood after final boss

[bronze glacier]

I don't even have court music yet

[old skiff]

well pretty much infinite Titan blood

[coral hull]

fishing is great i regularly waste runs trying to get a point to spawn in chaos

[leaden whale]

u should free the court musician

[old skiff]

If you wanna be specific it’s capped at like 500 or something

[bronze glacier]

I'm working on it but it's HAAAARRDDDDDDDDDD

[coral hull]

keep going!

[sonic gust]

you can do it!!

[leaden whale]

asphodel suuuuuuucks at the start LOL

I died like 10 times there before I finally made it through

[sonic gust]

i hate elysium, i'd rather deal with the bonerakers

[bronze glacier]

I was surprised how far I made it into Asphodel the first time tbh! I think I got like halfway through before a mini-boss got me

[leaden whale]

when youve only been through tartarus, the lava is terrifying

at least from my experience

[craggy pagoda]

^

[sonic gust]

oh man i remember the first time i stepped into lave lmfao

[bronze glacier]

The lava and cracked earth parts threw me for a loop but I feel like you get used to those decently quick

[sonic gust]

i didnt understand how to get onto the boat so i went around and got scorched

[bronze glacier]

MEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[leaden whale]

u don't even gotta get on the boat

I lost so much hp just trying to get on the boat LOL

[coral hull]

in regards to asphodel i despise the witches's circle miniboss
i always get it, every run where i don't have a deflect or sm

[errant bramble]

Murder murder murder explosion ooo fishing. Pulls out foldy chair.

[sonic gust]

I KNOWW ITS A NIGHTMARE

[craggy pagoda]

i spammed space and stared at my screen for a few seconds in terror the first time i walked off the raft trying to press e

[leaden whale]

I used to get smacked by megagorgon

[bronze glacier]

Witches' Circle?

[leaden whale]

asphodel miniboss

[sonic gust]

the witch's circle is my least favourite mini boss

[bronze glacier]

Yeah I've had the Megagorgon and the boat of the dead one

[sonic gust]

its just me screaming and trying to keep Zag alive

[craggy pagoda]

witch's circle is a nightmare

[sonic gust]

i actually like the boat fight

[leaden whale]

this is before I had gotten to the asphodel boss for the first time https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364243718477185035/772668193583398962/bruh.mp4

[coral hull]

first time in asphodel i got killed standing in the lava trying to work out where the room was
second time in asphodel i got smacked by hydra

[leaden whale]

I was so upset

literally the room before

[coral hull]

o o f

[bronze glacier]

Boat fight is so much fun because it's chaotic as sin, I can barely make sense of where I am half the time, and then it's over lol

[craggy pagoda]

oh no

[sonic gust]

JHBDJKFBK THIS IS SO SAD OH NOOO

[leaden whale]

I just wanted to see!!!!!!!

[bronze glacier]

That's tragic but it's also HYSTERICAL

[coral hull]

barge of death idm to be honest. it's not witches' circle.

[leaden whale]

I have learned that I just gotta go hog wild on the witches

the faster they're dead the less I'll get hit

[craggy pagoda]

i adore the barge man

[sonic gust]

what i hate in asphodel are the mini gorgons bc TWICE i was in a situation where they wouldnt move from the lava and i couldnt reach them so i had to dash over and get burnt it was a nightmare

[craggy pagoda]

^^^^

[leaden whale]

it's even worse when you're playing without sound

"where tf is the last enemy??????"

[craggy pagoda]

looks around the entire map, finds it in the center or behind a wall

[coral hull]

why are the asphodel rooms so b i g

[sonic gust]

oh man YEAH

[craggy pagoda]

makes sense tbh

[bronze glacier]

Asphodel is pretty notorious for enemies hiding in literal corners trying to survive

[old skiff]

Hey guys

Wouldn’t this game be so much more easier if Zagreus actually wore clothing

Or like I don’t know maybe something at least a bit protective

[leaden whale]

I would like to see an armored zag

[coral hull]

that would take the fun out of it

[sonic gust]

olympian armour that we can unlock

[craggy pagoda]

at least cover your chest man cmonnnn

[bronze glacier]

Homie just wants to channel all that "women armor" energy for himself lmao

[sonic gust]

LMFAOOO

[old skiff]

I came up with an idea with how they could add armour to the game

[leaden whale]

got zag looking like https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/kidicarus/images/2/25/Pitthreesacredtreasures.png/revision/latest?cb=20170523001740

[old skiff]

It’s a bit long tho

[craggy pagoda]

hiuhajuiha

[coral hull]

afaik dying in like 8 hits is a staple of rougelikes

[leaden whale]

I was hesitant to unlock DDs for that reason

[craggy pagoda]

DD?

[sonic gust]

i saw some fan art where Zag could unlock armor inspired by the olymus gods, that would be cool

[leaden whale]

death defiance

[bronze glacier]

Also wait you wanted to die in 8 hits???