#h1-for-new-players

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sly vigil
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There is a system where you can reliably get more rewards such as blood, diamonds, and ambrosia.

quick hearth
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i see i see

kindred gazelle
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why play hades for 50 runs at 100° when you can just play 1 run at 5000°?

rich cave
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Until you unlock it the only way to get more stuff is by using different weapons

kindred gazelle
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and this:
Always check the wretched broker and if the special deal is
1 titan blood => 200 gems
and
15 keys => 1 titan blood
ALWAYS take it. Cause you can do
1 titan blood》200gems》20keys》1 titan blood and 5 keys.
So also keep 1 titan blood and enough keys or enough gems at ready

quick hearth
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Kinda hard atm

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but i'll keep it in mind

rich cave
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Gems are hard to get even late game

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Isn’t the chamber reward only 5

zinc pivot
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depends

kindred gazelle
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Also: God's legacy vs God's pride. any thoughts?

rich cave
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Mini boss chambers give 15

rich cave
kindred gazelle
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+20% chance for epic boon vs +10% chance duo/legendary boon

sly vigil
rich cave
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I use the 20% for epic boon one

leaden whale
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I tend to run Pride and just hope for the duo

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I'd rather end up with a full set of epics and no duo because at least then the pieces I have are still strong

kindred gazelle
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true. Duo boons have limited use anyways

rich cave
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Yeah I do the same because imo it’s much more useful to get more epic boons than it is to get maybe one legendary/duo boon

leaden whale
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pride is so good for chaos/hermes

rich cave
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I use that with the one that gives 40% chance for rare boons too and I get really solid builds

kindred gazelle
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imagine legendary rare crop thou shadeohboy

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oh wait my bad that's not how it works

rich cave
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It’s better to ensure you’ll get a good enough build than hope for an overpowered one

zinc pivot
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legendary is just slightly bettwe epic

leaden whale
zinc pivot
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the difference is miniscule

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just roll with the 20% epic

rich cave
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Too bad there isn’t one that increases your odds for heroic boons

kindred gazelle
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nah legendary is not a rarity its a class of boons i missremembered that

leaden whale
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If you get lucky in Asphodel you can always bump the epics up via Eurydice

zinc pivot
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i havent played in a while

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i just realized there was a discord today

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lmao

leaden whale
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Welcome! Better late than never

zinc pivot
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i still dont remember using legends that much, even in stage 4

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it usually works out for me

rich cave
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You get them so inconsistently that you can’t make a good build around them

zinc pivot
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basically

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if you do get them, id still wouldn't believe it can single-handedly carry a run

kindred gazelle
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i wonder thou how the additional defiance slot from unorganized god ||chaos|| interacts with stubborn defiance

sly vigil
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It stacks.

zinc pivot
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wtf ||chaos|| is spoiled here, you find it so early

kindred gazelle
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so 2 revives every room?

zinc pivot
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im gonna be warned for a ton of spoilers here lmao

rich cave
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It’s the new players chat so

zinc pivot
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fair

sly vigil
kindred gazelle
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oh wow that's lame

sly vigil
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You can also stack Athena's boons DD in the same manner under specific conditions

floral nacelle
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yeah, but chaos legendary is so rare you shouldn't rely on that as a strategy

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Finally completed all prophecies

native ember
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Man, that run would have been way better if I hadn't had that one upgrade.

kindred gazelle
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btw what boon do you recommend for fists? i like going for demeters frost since you can apply the stacks so fast and you can keep pummeling longer since they are slowed

rich cave
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That’s a good one

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I try to get doom for special

native ember
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So, how do I get more ||blood|| for my weapons

rich cave
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How far are you

zinc pivot
native ember
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Ahhh.

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When does that get unlocked, I wonder...

zinc pivot
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or just use other weapons against the ||furries||

kindred gazelle
zinc pivot
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after a couple of good escape attempts it should appear

rich cave
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The furries.

zinc pivot
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well there was no other way of saying it..

native ember
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Huh?

kindred gazelle
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beat the game once then you'll understand

rich cave
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There’s plenty of opportunities to get more

zinc pivot
rich cave
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Just make sure you invest it in aspects you actually want to use before you beat it

kindred gazelle
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i pumped all my blood in fist zagreus aspect. No regrets whatsoever

zinc pivot
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GG

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what a gamer

rich cave
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I did aspect of Zeus shield first now I’m doing magnet fist (forgot what it’s called)

zinc pivot
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i hate using shield, i can never get ahold of using it

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i just pumped the bow because im dumb

kindred gazelle
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i like using demeters cast and doom on attack with it. Slowly camp em down

zinc pivot
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surprisingly it stacks very well with any cast boon + aspect of hera

kindred gazelle
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quintuple special on rail with doom. Feels good

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Jesus it's like vietnam

zinc pivot
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lmao

leaden whale
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Which mirror upgrades should I get

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Like the swappable ones

dim hamlet
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Stygian soul is a good choice

elfin stream
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last one should also be swapped imo

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can't remember name

leaden whale
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Okie dokie

dim hamlet
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Fated persuasion

kindred gazelle
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i got rail.with 5x bombs and +20%special speed. The room is a continuous explosion

leaden whale
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Rail sure is a weapon in the video game hades by developer supergiant games

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God I hate it so much

kindred gazelle
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yeah it doesnt fit in

dim hamlet
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I actually like the rail. delta chamber is so fun

leaden whale
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I’ve hardly gotten past asphodel with it

kindred gazelle
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come play hades we have:
ancient sword
ancient spear
ancient shield
ancient bow
ancient fists
GUN

elfin stream
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you forgot the word ancient

leaden whale
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Rail + Zeus = love

elfin stream
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ancient GUN

quick hearth
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Aspect of Poseidon with lightning bolt is actually insane lol

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Almost did it PepeHands

leaden whale
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Kitchen knife
Salad fork
Dinner plate
Arrow thing
🤛
Pew pew

kindred gazelle
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Kitchen knife
fork
dinner plate

leaden whale
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Fixed 👌

kindred gazelle
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god i love fighting hydra so much

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the fight just feels so good and is always fun

livid ledge
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alright I just finally beat the last boss after that mistakenly aborted last run, thanks for the encouragement @muted latch @quick hearth @alpine ridge

silent magnet
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Congratulations!@livid ledge

livid ledge
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Thanks! I actually had 3 DD left afterwards. Kind of crazy.

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Normally I die to that

silent magnet
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The Olympian Gods were generous with their blessings this time. Haha

livid ledge
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And I thought the last run was perfect! Little did I know that this one was even better in many ways. Shield plus a Hermes boon is OP

quick hearth
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Gratz

silent magnet
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When I have the shield, I usually run in a corner and raise it. Everything is blocked. LOL ||The 45 seconds challenge chamber of Hades just pass by. Haha||

kindred gazelle
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but then you miss out on cash

quick hearth
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Does shield-rush count as attack?

silent magnet
silent magnet
# quick hearth Does shield-rush count as attack?

I don't think so.. When I have the ||chaos boon active that hurts me everytime I attack, the damage only applies when I use the attack. No further damage for charging and releasing the bull rush.|| So I guess, no?

quick hearth
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ty

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So theres no way to increase its dmg?

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Just got Minotaur Rush from hammer

kindred gazelle
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it is an attack. It applies all effects from attack boons

quick hearth
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oh

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So boon with rlly high increase dmg should be ideal here

livid ledge
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I actually never block or bull rush

silent magnet
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Oh sorry. Yes, the attack boon applies to it too.

livid ledge
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It’s either special or dash attack

silent magnet
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I thought you were asking for ||chaos||

livid ledge
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And I always go for divine dash

kindred gazelle
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Oh come on the goddamn explosions from rail cause so many particle effects i legit couldnt see enemy attacks

quick hearth
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Oh btw

kindred gazelle
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I lost to the visuals of the game

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thats stupid

quick hearth
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Can i block fury sister skill thats a circle?

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Since its not rlly coming from ahead

silent magnet
karmic hamlet
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maybe if you're blocking towards the centre of the circle

silent magnet
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I haven't tried blocking it. But I guess I'll try later. Haha

quick hearth
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ooh i see makes sense

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i was wondering if i should aim for the center of circle or the boss

kindred gazelle
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doom works great on shield. Bull rush charge is just slightly shorter than doom trigger time. So you can just charge through and then chill behind the shield till doom triggers

silent magnet
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I go for doom for the shield's special. Doom doom dooooom!

stoic burrow
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doom and aspect of chaos for the shield is pretty fun imo

zealous bison
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i'm back aPES2_Cheer

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finally caved in and bought hades, and...

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my god this game is amazing so far SpookyDance

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5 runs in, got to the second boss, got my butt kicked
went back home and saw my parents arguing about my distant relatives

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so i didn't play that much yet...
but - there's one thing i'd like to say about this so far

errant bramble
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The story is really cool. I’d recommend not reading this channel too much despite the spoiler bars haha

zealous bison
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knowing SGGs previous games i'm pretty sure the ending will make me cry PES_Hands
but for now - i gotta admit - this might be the closest thing to my dream of...
playing a supergiant game with a comedic tone

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the writing so far is just 😙👌

kindred gazelle
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just facetanked elysium boss with 50%+ dodge chance

zealous bison
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every other line gives me a healthy chuckle

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this is basically me during my first few runs so far PES_Lul

kindred gazelle
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oh correction 71.4 % dodge chance zaglol zaglol

zealous bison
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also...
||oh boy oh man||
||megs voice though sweatblob ||

kindred gazelle
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bonk go to horny hell

zealous bison
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i mean
||i'm already here shadeembarassed ||

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anyway - back to making awful transistor puns over at #transistor

errant bramble
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If you can believe, there’s a sexier voice coming up imo lol

zealous bison
kindred gazelle
errant bramble
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Hahaha

kindred gazelle
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omw to fight the final boss with 73.8 % dodge chance

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ahahhaha i just completely facetanked the final boss

west patio
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What did you have to get that dodge rate?

kindred gazelle
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fists with aspect of zagreus for 15%
Hermes dodge and speed after call for 30% and hermes feather stacked up to 28.8%

native ember
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This game is great, because every time I meet a character, I know who they are.

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I'm a longtime mythology buff

errant bramble
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Skelly is very well known in the Greek Pantheon.

native ember
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Okay, fair, but still, I've recognized all the 🗨️ right away

errant bramble
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agreed

fathom crown
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pretty sure Skelly is actually ||ahaha gotcha|| from mythology

solar panther
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Wow

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Didn’t know that

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Interesting

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Scrolled up to the conversation about megs voice and I wholeheartedly agree

lone nova
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The key is to play the game on mute

solar panther
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But why would u want to miss out on that @lone nova? @quick hearth have u gotten all of it from each weapon?

quick hearth
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Yeah i did

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Trying to get the 4th aspect from spear rn but need more PB_rain

solar panther
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Hmm idk I’m relatively new, sorry

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I have only gotten 3 and don’t know what they’re for haha

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Only 3 in total

ocean cosmos
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if you already unlocked the ||heat modifier, boss rewards will reset for every level of heat||

quick hearth
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Np peepo_happymorning

solar panther
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@ocean cosmos mark that as a spoiler please

ocean cosmos
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k done

quick hearth
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Oh i see, but i need to beat ||Hades|| for it or theres something else? PB_rain

solar panther
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@ocean cosmos not the whole thing lmao

ocean cosmos
quick hearth
solar panther
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Oops

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Marked the wrong thing

ocean cosmos
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I dont remember when I unlocked it shadeembarassed

kindred gazelle
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to unlock the 4th spear aspect and allow for the others to be unlocked you need to
-invest 5 titanblood into non zagreus aspects
-reach the final boss at least once (defeating him is not required)
then speak with achilles until he mentions something about a vision
then go and interact with the spear twice to make the aspect visible

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@quick hearth

native ember
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Okay, I think that this upgrade for the sword has made me impossible to kill

leaden whale
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so i killed my 1st boss megaera 🥰😂

native ember
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NICE!

leaden whale
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3 runs zaglol

quick hearth
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Got it @kindred gazelle was wondering how i could get the heat up

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for more titanbloods

vivid patio
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spoiler tag ||heat|| please

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anything after the completion of the first run is a spoiler in this channel

native ember
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Oh my god. I found the final boss of the third area.

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Excuse me a moment. I have to go fangirlboy.

opaque geyser
native ember
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VICTORY

ocean cosmos
# quick hearth for more titanbloods

if you've already unlocked it, it's in ||skelly's room, the door on your way out should have an orange glow with a scroll thingy on top of it||

native ember
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Oh my gosh, you guys.

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||I THINK I WON||

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... Oh no.

empty dust
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I got the game about an hour ago

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It's fun but do you have any tips for meg?

ocean cosmos
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lol congrats @native ember

native ember
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sounds of panicked buttonmashing

calm lotus
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Even when you are good you still need patience to beat her coz she's wild

native ember
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ocean cosmos
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Generally for all bosses, learn their attack patterns, their attacks are mostly well telegraphed, and dont be greedy shadesmile

native ember
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@ocean cosmos I was this close

ocean cosmos
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Lmao

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So you beat the boss or no?

native ember
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||I lost to phase two with less than 10% left||

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I am so mad at myself.

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If I had had one more ||defiance|| I would have won HANDS DOWN

ocean cosmos
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Well now you know what to expect. DO EET AGAIN!

native ember
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I was so close.

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That Daedalus upgrade for the blade was amazin

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So what can I use ||ambrosia|| for

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Besides trade

opaque geyser
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||Deepening late-stage relationships||

ocean cosmos
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Lol i have that experience as well, ||i was so happy i defeated the guy, then phase 2 happened, that moment i know im fked||

native ember
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@ocean cosmos I thought to myself 'I might squeak it out'

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But then I accidentally stood in a ||laser|| like a dummy and lost a ton of HP

ocean cosmos
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oof yea that attack is nasty

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that and ||his spin attack||, hits like a truck

native ember
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yeah

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It's also really hard to dash

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wait

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OH MY GOSH I WONDERED WHY THEY HADN'T SHOWN UP

next ore
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Why is everyone using thr cover message

ocean cosmos
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spoilers

native ember
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How high does Godhood go

vivid patio
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80%

empty dust
quick hearth
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Oh sorry @opaque geyser just saw i said it wrong facepalm

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Idk how to unlock heats*

ornate remnant
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you can unlock ||heat || by || defeating the final boss ||

reef shoal
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I've never completed a run with the spear. Any tips for a spear player (aspect, hammer, boons, etc)?

leaden whale
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  • serrated point (hammer) is really good, but takes some getting used to. best used with an extra dash or two
  • flurry jab is another fantastic hammer, esp with zeus attack
  • I like ||demeter|| on attack, but I think that's just me
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hades is my favorite aspect by far

quick hearth
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oh FeelsBadMan got it

opaque geyser
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Also re: spear, for me personally I find that special builds don't work without specific hammers (charged skewer, exploding skewer).

leaden whale
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special builds don't really work unless you're using the hidden aspect

reef shoal
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Should I just max the default spear aspect for now and then build up other aspects?

ornate remnant
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it's not bad...but the others are better, generally

leaden whale
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I may be biased bc it's my least favorite aspect in the game

reef shoal
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So should I go with Hades aspect or the hidden one?

leaden whale
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Achilles is pretty good but requires big brian

floral nacelle
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I think Hades spear is pretty good

leaden whale
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you can test run an aspect by unlocking it then immediately going on a run, then giving up b4 you die

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hades > achilles > hidden >>> zag for me

ornate remnant
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I'd swap achilles and hidden, personally, but otherwise yeah

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and I could see either way on those two

reef shoal
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I'll give Aspect of Hades a shot. I like its design, too.

leaden whale
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its so sick

reef shoal
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does flurry jab work with hades?

leaden whale
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nop

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that's its only drawback

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because the spin attack is like the whole point of the aspect lol

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also, protip: instead of letting go of attack to use a spin attack, press dash instead

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gives you invincibility and extends the range by quite a bit

reef shoal
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ok thanks for the tip

leaden whale
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npnp

errant bramble
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Achilles spear is super fun.

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You get to fly all over the place and toss out supercharged Casts

leaden whale
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wheeeee

errant bramble
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Yes just like that ^^

muted latch
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hades is easier to build for

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achilles kinda requires ares cast + hunting blades to be super effective

native ember
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I guess I should try the gauntlets more

leaden whale
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hunting blades works with anything

errant bramble
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I’ve done fine with Zeus cast, Artemis Cast, trippy shot

floral nacelle
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achilles is also good with curse of drowning and other non lodging casts

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for lodging casts, i'd take poseidon sword, because i'm too impatient to wait for them to fall out on their own

errant bramble
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I have probably an unhealthy love for Trippy shot tho. I just want to go feast+ice wine all the time lol

floral nacelle
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I love dio's cast even though I've only won with it once on hidden shield

full depot
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I'd go out on a foot and say dio cast is the best cast

leaden whale
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Zeus cast is so good for room clear

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I also really like poseidon cast

full depot
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Not a huge fan of Zeus unless I get the extra bounces but poseidon is pretty good

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But like dio's cast with the extra effects you can pile on it, just remains my fav

errant bramble
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Zeus cast is specifically for cast builds or like randomly killing Flame chariots.

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Zeus cast on Achilles quite good

leaden whale
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ice wine and scintillating feast are bangin duos

full depot
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If I don't have trippy shot I'm looking to see dio once for strong drink and never see him again

floral nacelle
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Dio's hangover is also good for fast hitting weapons

leaden whale
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bad influence :D

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dio attack on fists is p nice

feral mantle
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i just did a clear with fists and zeus chain lightning boom, and dodge

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damn that was fun

floral nacelle
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sadly Dio doesn't really synergize with himself because newer stacks of hangover overwrite old ones

full depot
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Yea well ofc I mean when I'm not looking to hangover

leaden whale
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especially with like. Arty special on Dem aspect

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and their duo

junior otter
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Any tips for beating the bone hydra? Got to 20% on my third try but it gets rough

hasty aurora
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dodge

full depot
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What are you struggling with

hasty aurora
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Focus one hydra at a time

full depot
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And what weapon do you use

junior otter
leaden whale
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you get used to it eventually

hasty aurora
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practice more i guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

junior otter
hasty aurora
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You'll get the hang of it

junior otter
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Got way closer with the fists

hasty aurora
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Huh, really

full depot
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With the bow just stay away and keep shooting

junior otter
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Yeah

full depot
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With fists you want to watch out for ground pound and otherwise keep punching

hasty aurora
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I couldn't even do the hydra with the fists first time i tried

junior otter
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Although I did have a huge damage buff and deflect on them lol

hasty aurora
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Whilst i cleared the 3rd boss with the bow, but that's presonal preference i guess

full depot
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The hydra has really easy tells if you pay attention like it really tells you what the next move he's gonna do will be

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Also every hydra head looks different based on what it's projectile is

hasty aurora
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O ye, if you can stay out of the main mouths range

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stay out of it

junior otter
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I can read him I just keep ending up dying to... something

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Half the time idk killed me

full depot
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Well play more defensively then

hasty aurora
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With the spear for example you can just stand there and normal attack without him being able to reach you

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Yeah, if you're unsure

pine prawn
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Hydra easily has the most predictable rhythm

full depot
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Since it seems you're just getting your hp chipped slowly

hasty aurora
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Dodge. Dodge is your friend :D

leaden whale
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I usually lose like 80 hp to Hydra lmao

full depot
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Take it slow and don't go for risky openings

leaden whale
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as long as I don't lose a DD im not salty

full depot
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Yea I only lose hp to the second time hydra summons

pine prawn
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Yeah. The invincibility thing also triggers when it loses certain % of hp so there's no rush

hasty aurora
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ya

pine prawn
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At first I thought it was a time thing

full depot
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You can out maneuver the attacks of the main head and first 3 summons if you're paying attention

hasty aurora
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I mean, you can out maneuver the second wave of summons as well

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It's really not that hard once you get the hang of what different heads do what and how long their attack animations are

pine prawn
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If you have deflects it's brilliant

errant bramble
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Do certain heads always do the same attacks?

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I never noticed if so

hasty aurora
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Yea

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Look at the colors of the heads

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Green summons mobs, meaning it's relatively safe to be around them

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Orange shoots globules of flame/lava that leaves a lavapool wherever they land

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Pink shoots the wave-thingies that some skeletons shoot

errant bramble
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Lol just crit big rat for 2500 😛

hasty aurora
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Uh and blue i forgot

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They hit the ground? idk

errant bramble
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Cool thank you

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Ill check it out

hasty aurora
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Np

leaden whale
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turn down the music so the blue heads stop headbanging

native ember
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Hooooooooly moly.

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This new build is nuts

lone nova
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Man getting so close beating last boss. 3x now

native ember
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I beat ||Meg|| in maybe a minute

lone nova
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He just goes ham and I dunno the patterns yet

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Like 25 runs in. We'll get there

pine prawn
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I was so proud when I thought I had "beat" him at first

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Then he went ham.

muted latch
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||2nd phase is easier if you know the patterns||

pine prawn
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||I was too beat at this point, he just smacked me and off to styx we go||

native ember
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I almost beat it.

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I had them under 10%

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Then I zigged when I should have Zagged.

pine prawn
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aaaayyyy

native ember
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👈

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If I get any kind of sustain, I have this beat

full depot
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i keep aid to finish off bosses, it helps so much

native ember
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Oh boy

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Here we go

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VICTORY

uneven ledge
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how the hell do i kill the witches when i'm not using the bow

pine prawn
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any attack should dissolve the projectiles

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Either that+dodging or deflect

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What are you using?

uneven ledge
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what about the butterflies in the third area? they take away a lot of health and trying to kill them is damn near impossible

full depot
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just circumvent them

uneven ledge
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what if there's 3 of them and they're all over the place and i have to avoid three swordies

full depot
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if you get close enough to the bfly ball the new spawning flies will get dissolved by your attack

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I'd say prioritize the balls and keep running from swords, there's no easy way about it but you gotta do what you gotta do

pine prawn
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Area attacks are good to clean butterflies while you rush to approach

full depot
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fortunately the swords do take sometime to catch up to you cause they like to stand in place and shoot their waves

uneven ledge
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can i even backstab them? i mean... they're balls

full depot
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you cant backstab them no

uneven ledge
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thanks supergiant

pine prawn
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Like you said. Balls.

full depot
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boiling blood works though if you have that

errant bramble
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@native ember nice grats! What build got you there?

native ember
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Varathra with a ton of damage boost

errant bramble
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My first win was Cluster Bomb+Rocket bomb, tempest flourish. Just played pinball.

native ember
#

Mostly ||Demeter|| stuff

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I was doing ~300-600 per hit

errant bramble
#

Nice 🙂

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Special hits?

native ember
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Chill

uneven ledge
#

finally beat ||theseus and asterius|| but i died twice bouldy

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and now i actually am going to die because of these crystals bouldy

full depot
#

what cast are you running?

uneven ledge
#

bouncing lightning?

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my set is pretty bad it seems

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at least i managed to """vanquish""" ||cerberus||

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but now i'm at 100 hp and am probably gonna die to the last boss

full depot
#

oh rip its time

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how many dd do you have?

uneven ledge
#

dd?

full depot
#

death defiance

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also what weapon

uneven ledge
#

oh yeah i used it on ||theseus and asterius||

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and also the lucky tooth

full depot
#

so you have none remaining?

uneven ledge
#

can't hear you gonna die now

full depot
#

lmao you got this, just dodge everything ez

uneven ledge
#

just don't get hit lol!

full depot
#

50% of the time works everytime

uneven ledge
#

i got hit

full depot
#

just dont get hit again

#

ez

pine prawn
#

Ah yes

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The top strat

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Dont Die, Stupid

full depot
#

hypnos taught me

uneven ledge
#

rail feels weird to use

full depot
#

rail was so awkward when i first used it and i thought it was the worst weapon

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but then somehow magically i ended up killing the final boss with it, and that was my first clear

junior otter
#

I'm in Chaos realm, and when leaving it's letting me choose between 3 of the same item path

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I don't know what item it is

worthy mountain
#

Yeah, Rail felt super... wrong at first

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And then ironically it became one of my best weapons

old escarp
#

Sounds like you took the Enshrouded curse, so you won't be able to tell what the exits are until it wears off SMBXxer

worthy mountain
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While I still feel like a moron with it. But apparently it works xD

junior otter
#

Ah

full depot
#

rail is just like that

junior otter
#

Whoops, I'm just forgetful lol

#

Thx

full depot
#

it was funny cause i hadnt crossed elysium before that run either

worthy mountain
#

Hestia engrained the reload reflex in me

full depot
#

hestia is a whole different playstyle from other rails though

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eris feels like the most raily rail

worthy mountain
#

I mean, that's usually how weapon aspects work yes :p

full depot
#

eris and zag arent that different

worthy mountain
#

And if you wanna talk about weird playstyles don't even get me started on the secret one lol

full depot
#

all the secret ones are just curve balls

worthy mountain
#

Well upgraded Zag and Eris can be somewhat different

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Absorbing your special is something you do on accident as Zag rather than on purpose

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And upgraded Zag has double ammo, for sustained fire

full depot
#

sure but they dont radically change the way you play them like with hestia where youre only ever shooting one bullet

worthy mountain
#

Not necessarily

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I still fire full chambers as Hestia, just not quite as often

drifting island
#

when i play hestia i almost never fire full chambers

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it really does play quite differently imo

worthy mountain
#

To be fair I don't have it at 5 yet so it doesn't quite have the full unf to finish the job in 1 shot yet

pine prawn
#

Ngl, the aspec upgrades stress me out

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so costly

full depot
#

does hermes attack change charge or reload times?

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like charge times with bow for example and reload on rails ofc

muted latch
#

the attack speed boon does increase charge speed on the bow

worthy mountain
#

You get a lot of blood pretty quickly if you can master each weapon ||on low heats||

muted latch
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and fire rate for the rail

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please spoiler the post clear mechanic

full depot
#

there's also ||a few achievements|| that give a bunch of blood, contractor upgrade spoiler

floral nacelle
#

Most prophecies that give titan blood require beating the game but there's a few that don't

uneven ledge
#

which weapon is best for the final boss

full depot
#

Shield I guess

pine prawn
#

hmm

full depot
#

You can block all his attacks

pine prawn
#

Wait, seriously?

full depot
#

Yes

uneven ledge
#

yeah shield's block can't exactly be broken lol

pine prawn
full depot
#

I think the pots might hit you but everything else I can confirm will get blocked

uneven ledge
#

you can still get hit from behind though

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the pots?

full depot
#

Just point behind you if someone is attacking from behind though that's pretty rare

pine prawn
#

I really need to invest in the cap america strat

full depot
#

It even blocks the laser

worthy mountain
#

What is "best" weapon for beating the boss is very subjective though

full depot
#

Basic shield can block just as fine since bull rush is available to all shields

worthy mountain
#

Some people rock the sword, others struggle until they find the power of GUN

pine prawn
#

Being able to block is pretty important considering you are most likely beaten up by the time you get there

full depot
#

This is true, it's really dependant on player

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Shield just happens to be like one of the easiest imo

pine prawn
#

Unless you follow Hypnos' wisdom and just don't get hit

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But then again, if you do that everything should be peachy

full depot
#

Well most of the times I reach the boss I haven't lost any death defiance so yea

worthy mountain
#

That being said, yeah shield is pretty reliable

floral nacelle
#

I still win sometimes even if I reach the boss with like one DD left

full depot
#

But boss himself ends up taking one defiance or two depending on my build, I haven't failed with shield yet though

worthy mountain
#

It depends how well my run is going

floral nacelle
#

But generally, I think I'm probably going to win if I reach him with all DDs remaining

full depot
#

Zeus shield in particular is my goto weapon for cheesing runs

uneven ledge
#

shield might be really useful for the lasers at the final area

worthy mountain
#

If I have great DPS I only need one DD. If my run is a bit wonky I much need 4

worthy mountain
muted latch
#

you are completely invincible from the front with the shield block

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like there is NOTHING in the game that ignores the shield block

#

abuse that

full depot
worthy mountain
#

Oh. Yeah don't hug them.

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Though, to share a Bloodborne meme.

#

"Shields are useful, but not if they engender passivity"

full depot
#

The champion of elysium hacks, so why can't I

pine prawn
#

Because we don't want to be him

uneven ledge
#

is there a boon that lets me deflect "any" attack with shield

floral nacelle
#

The champion of elysium can use two weapons at a time

full depot
#

Divine strike

floral nacelle
#

We can only use one

uneven ledge
#

like lasers and close-range attacks

full depot
#

But you need to be attacking

#

It won't deflect while you're blocking

#

Though Athena's aid will do that

uneven ledge
full depot
#

Athena's aid is your 10 sec pass to mash buttons

pine prawn
#

Theseus exposed for haxxor

full depot
#

Imagine using two weapons and still needing a bull to even be more threatening than shieldbro exalted

worthy mountain
#

I've currently gotten to a point in the story where Theseus is very mad at me. Good.

pine prawn
#

And still calling for divine aid

full depot
#

I got the point where was mad at asterius

#

Felt so good

uneven ledge
#

how could you be mad at ||asterius||

muted latch
#

you can only "deflect back" projectiles iirc

uneven ledge
pine prawn
#

No one should be mad at Asterius

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He's a good lad

sly vigil
#

realest of all

pine prawn
#

Even if he tries to split Zag in half sometimes

uneven ledge
#

baby boy

#

baby

pine prawn
#

theseus - evil

full depot
#

I mean idk how you can be as insufferable as theseus but hey if he can do that being mad at asterius is nothing

uneven ledge
#

theseus is evil

floral nacelle
#

Asterius just wants a good battle like every other shade in elysium

full depot
#

Ngl I don't much like asterius even

#

Dude simps too hard

muted latch
#

Asterius doesnt really simp on anything

#

he is just there for spars

pine prawn
#

Simps on who?

uneven ledge
#

asterius is cool

#

i like him

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:)

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:))

full depot
#

He simps on theseus

muted latch
#

like he will even do something for you down the line

pine prawn
#

Idk why he's friends with Theseus but he never sounded like he's simping to me, he just stays cool on his corner

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And at least he manages to be a good sport when he talks to you

full depot
#

Sure but then he stays shut when theseus is mouthing off on me

pine prawn
#

That's fair

full depot
#

Some respect he has for me when he can't even speak up while I'm being berated for crimes I didn't commit

pine prawn
#

I don't get the dynamic there

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But I guess there could be story I didn't get to

full depot
#

Also when you meet him solo he still keeps praising theseus and even goes as far as to tell you that you're nothing compared to theseus the same way he's nothing compared to zag's dad

pine prawn
#

At the moment I'm talking to a rock because Sysiphus told me to, so anything can happen

worthy mountain
#

He respects Theseus for killing him.

pine prawn
#

That's... odd.

full depot
#

I've killed him 40-50 times more than theseus has

muted latch
#

in the original mythology Theseus killed a minotaur

worthy mountain
#

Though I think deep down he knows that Theseus is kind of a blowhard, but he has a very stubborn honor

opaque geyser
#

There is only one Minotaur iirc

pine prawn
#

Yeah

full depot
#

But also he respects theseus for winning against him and then becoming friends with him and then saving his soul from tarturus and giving him home in elysium

opaque geyser
#

Not just a minotaur

muted latch
#

also down the line ||Asterius respects Zag||

full depot
#

Yea I reached that point but he still hols theseus in higher regard over zag

uneven ledge
#

what happens if i beat thanatos

pine prawn
#

Makes sense, considering he has a personal debt

full depot
#

He gives you a centaur heart

uneven ledge
#

that's it?

floral nacelle
#

Hey, extra health isn't nothing

muted latch
#

25 HP is 25 HP

#

and you get the room reward

pine prawn
#

Yeah

uneven ledge
#

i was expecting something... more than that really

full depot
#

You get the room reward

#

A free room

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And a heart

pine prawn
#

You can always kick back and let him deal with everyone while you run

muted latch
#

beating him basically means you get double rewards

pine prawn
#

He'll eventually kill everything

uneven ledge
#

i mean 25 hp is 25 hp but considering actually getting more kills than him is damn hard i thought it would be something like a boon

pine prawn
#

Is it tho?

muted latch
#

it will become laughably easy in the future

uneven ledge
#

at least he doesn't kill you if he beats you by like 14 kills

full depot
#

Anyway my problem with asterius is that if my friend was being rude to someone for no reason I'd talk some sense into him especially if I respected the other person and was super into honor and stuff like asterius is

pine prawn
#

That's fair

#

Still like the cow dude

muted latch
#

||I hate him on EM3||

pine prawn
#

But he should put a sock on Theseus' mouth

full depot
#

Sure never said you were wrong to like him, I just don't like him

pine prawn
#

Not disagreeing

full depot
#

@muted latch agreed but it's okay cause theseus is a joke

uneven ledge
#

do i get to use the titan blood after my first clear?

pine prawn
#

Idk if that's helpful at all, spammy, but I usually win against Thanatos by kill stealing

full depot
#

You can use blood after you unlock all weapons

#

Don't need to clear

errant bramble
#

Why do I land a 3k crit with hestia on...an unarmored witch? 😦

muted latch
#

once you unlock all weapons talk to skelly and inspect weapons

full depot
#

Can't kill steal than cause he one hit kos

uneven ledge
sly vigil
muted latch
#

then you are not killing stuff fast enough

pine prawn
#

That is, instead of getting away from him and trying to kill the ones he's not attacking, I rush the ones that he's marked

#

During the countdown

#

That way he's not getting any counts

muted latch
#

I usually only have trouble with Chariot rooms

#

other rooms it's a constant 15+ shutdown

worthy mountain
#

Yeah I beat thanatos, crushingly, like 80% of the time

#

If I don't my run is doomed basically

uneven ledge
#

when their hp bar is purple and i kill them did i actually kill them or did than just happen to land the killing blow

muted latch
#

if it's not a 9999 you get the kill

#

the visual cue is clear

pine prawn
#

Not dead if they're movin'

uneven ledge
#

i killed like 3 guys with purple hp bars and i only got one kill bouldy

pine prawn
#

Then Than's attack went off

muted latch
#

you are not killing them fast enough

errant bramble
#

Try to kill the squishy targets and leave the armored ones for what’s his name

pine prawn
#

Now for the philosophical question: can you kill steal death?

muted latch
#

Than doesnt usually do other attacks

#

it's just OHKs

#

so mostly no

edgy tartan
#

Well, you can killed marked enemies, which'll annoy him, so you can kill-steal from death

opaque geyser
#

Not Hermes/Charon deaths which are faster

worthy mountain
#

Yeah all the violent death gets chucked down the river Styx

full depot
#

Think Styx has a very particular requirement, not sure what but violent deaths are hermes

opaque geyser
#

Iirc Hermes and Charon work together. Hermes brings the souls to Styx, Charon ferries them. So violent deaths also == Styx

west patio
#

Neither of them are actually killing something though

#

Unlike thanatos

pine prawn
#

Maybe they do in their free time

#

Oh wait, they don't have those

west patio
#

The only things hermes can kill in game is Zagreus

#

If you pick another god over him

pine prawn
#

That's everyone's favourite pastime doesn't count

west patio
#

You can also just not die

opaque geyser
#

||Tight Deadline||, the ender of ||high heat|| runs

faint umbra
#

oh hey amanda kotyamanda

pine prawn
#

Alma, hey!

#

sup

faint umbra
#

good to see you here :D

pine prawn
#

You too!

faint umbra
#

how are you liking hades?

pine prawn
#

A lot

#

Need something lighter to take my head off things

uneven ledge
#

man i had 500 darkness and i could have bought another dd but my dumbass said "more hp"

muted latch
#

more DD first

#

50 HP is super cheap you can probably afford that quickly

uneven ledge
#

too late i've already gone down from 503 to 43 darkness

#

yay me

#

SPOILERS

rapid umbra
#

sorry

void tendon
#

What hammers and special are good for hidden aspect rail gun?

ornate remnant
dusk bay
#

What mirror upgrade do you guys prefer,

#

Gods Legacy or Gods Pride?

muted latch
#
  • rare most of the ime
#

unless I have a build that specifies a certain duo in mind

#

like archilles hunting blades

leaden whale
#

if i reclaim my purple droplets spent on talents do i get all of them back to use

ornate remnant
#

you should, yes

leaden whale
#

another question, do both sides of the mirror "buffs" work or only one side

#

like shadow presence and fiery presence

ornate remnant
#

only the one you can see is active

leaden whale
#

okay thanks

ornate remnant
#

ye friendly

worldly junco
#

Why isn't the stubborn defiance, what ever it's called, not working?

ornate remnant
#

have you invested darkness into it?

#

just switching to it doesn't activate it

worldly junco
#

ohhh..... damn okay, didn't realize that. Thank you!

ornate remnant
#

Sure thing ^.^

leaden whale
#

bow is so annoying

#

what do you guys think is better, abyssal blood or boiling blood?

ornate remnant
#

I tend to use Boiling

#

abyssal is better if you tend to get hit more, or if you plan on making a facetank build

leaden whale
#

i might use abyssal since

#

yea

#

was about to say that

west patio
#

Which dodge skill is better?

#

I like damage so right now I have the +50% after a near miss dodge but i feel likes it too conditional to be better than the extra dodge

drowsy plover
#

Is it bad that I died 12 times? Can't get past Theseus

uneven ledge
#

at least that's better than me

covert ember
#

The game is kinda about dying tbh

#

L8ke its fine to die

drowsy plover
#

Honestly I still don't know what I'm doing, just dashing and slamming enemies into walls with Aegis

west patio
#

Theseus is a lot easier with anything that can go through his shield

#

I think artemis has a boon that does that

uneven ledge
drowsy plover
#

Haven't really got Artemis, mostly Poseidon, Ares and Aphrodite

west patio
#

Some hammer effects also have it

ornate remnant
#

12 deaths and still no victory is perfectly reasonable

pine prawn
#

I find that it's quite normal to hit against a boss over and over and once you get it it's smooth sailing

drowsy plover
#

Ah ok heard some people beat it in less than 10 and I'm like huh I must be doing something wrong

pine prawn
#

Died a lot to the Elysium duo, then never again

ornate remnant
#

pretty sure average is hovering around 25-30 runs, but I've seen ranges from 3rd to past 80, so don't stress it

pastel cipher
#

the amount of attempts another person gets their first clear isn't really relevent to your enjoyment of the game imo ^_^

ornate remnant
#

also true!

pine prawn
#

Dont sweat over the average

#

As long as you are motivated to go again

west patio
#

Its insane how consistent you can get at some parts after you beat it the first time

pine prawn
#

Yeah. It's like something clicks

drowsy plover
#

Ah okay ty. Well yea it's definitely challenging. Many times I couldn't get out of Tartarus xD surprised I made it to Elysium without dying to Hydra

pine prawn
#

You'll be laughing at the jerk king in time

pastel cipher
#

ayy that's awesome klinkHyper
progress is always great bittie3

leaden whale
#

which one?

ornate remnant
#

depends on your build, somewhat

#

though probably greatest reflex

leaden whale
#

ill get that then

#

i dont really have a build

pastel cipher
#

greatest reflex imo

molten blaze
#

greatest reflex

pastel cipher
#

build doesn't matter when the game is giving you 3 extra dashes

#

it's almost always the best option

pine prawn
#

Is anything in particular giving you trouble, though, @drowsy plover ? Theseus is easy to get with high damage Aid, but you need to pace yourself until you can get him alone

molten blaze
#

it makes dashing over attacks significantly easier

#

and/or dodging them

worn valve
#

seems like for me as a new player shield just gets me further no matter what XD compared to other weapons. made it to a surden Red Boss* and lost 😦 this time ill beat he/she/it! 😉

marble shadow
#

Hi, how do I fight against those annoying poison wolf (I really detest those things) in styx

#

They literally killed off 2 of my DD

#

along with armored crystals

ornate remnant
#

Wait to dash until they start their attack, and immediately go for a mandrake pool if they hit you

marble shadow
#

what if the crystals are targeting you as well

ornate remnant
#

take them out first, ideally

#

it mostly depends on which one you have an easier time dodging

drowsy plover
covert nova
#

When I click B and I see all my abilities or whatever you want to call them do I have to have to activate them in some way or is it automatic?

ornate remnant
#

automatic

#

the ability to select them is purely for taking screenshots to show off your build

covert nova
#

Ahhh

#

TY SMILE

ornate remnant
#

Sure thing ^.^

reef shoal
#

What is an easy way to get your ideal build?

ornate remnant
#

god keepsakes

#

also the final mirror talent

reef shoal
#

Do god keepsakes only work at the beginning of a run?

ornate remnant
#

nope!

#

well--

#

they work once per keepsake, per run

#

and you can early on unlock something that lets you switch keepsakes mid-run

reef shoal
#

So for tartarus I can have artemis, and for asphodel I can have ares?

ornate remnant
#

yup!

reef shoal
#

sweet

covert nova
#

Also what does "mouse lock" do in the settings, can't really tell a difference

dusk dove
#

i literally started today, i have no idea what the red looking bucket with blood in the bottom right? i think it is at least

ornate remnant
drowsy plover
#

Now I died to the Hydra oof

uneven ledge
#

feels good knowing one day i'll be able to beat up ||theseus|| no sweat

ornate remnant
reef shoal
#

Does Fated Persuasion work on hammer boons?

ornate remnant
reef shoal
dusk dove
#

sorry, just found it, its titans blood, dont know what i do with it @ornate remnant

reef shoal
#

My ideal build won't work unless I get certain hammer boons

uneven ledge
ornate remnant
dusk dove
#

ah ok, thank you both

uneven ledge
#

you mainly get it from beating the first boss for the first time with each weapon but there are other ways you can get it

reef shoal
#

Is it possible to clear a run with a weapon that has no titan's blood invested in it?

ornate remnant
#

yup

reef shoal
#

Because I'm great with the bow but not-so-good with the other weapons

uneven ledge
#

i almost did my first clear with the bow earlier but then he started spawning minions

#

explosive arrows is really good, and goes great with hunter dash

plush isle
#

What upgrades should I choose in the Mirror of Night?

leaden whale
#

are minor spoilers allowed here marked with || ||

uneven ledge
#

yeah

ornate remnant
#

mirror talents aren't really spoilers, though feel free to tag them as such

uneven ledge
leaden whale
#

because OH MY GOD ARE ||THE MINOTAUR AND THESEUS SO DAMN TANKY||

ornate remnant
#

or I totally misread your post, I though you said "mirror" not "minor" I really should go to sleep

leaden whale
#

lol

ornate remnant
#

minor spoilers like that are fine, especially if tagged

plush isle
#

I meant in terms of the 2 options of each mirror talent.

uneven ledge
#

the other upgrades are pretty cheap and also provide great benefits but you should really prioritize dd and the dash

leaden whale
#

i was wondering why u said mirror talents

plush isle
#

I have maxed Death Defiance and Greater Reflex, what now?

uneven ledge
#

so there's a boon that lets you bypass "shields" right?

ornate remnant
ornate remnant
uneven ledge
#

would be super helpful for ||theseus||

fathom crown
#

@plush isle try a lot of options. Eventually, it's pretty cheap to respec, you could do it every run if you wanted.

plush isle
#

Should I be using High Confidence or Thick Skin?

ornate remnant
#

personally rec thick skin, especially early on

#

the extra health is super useful

fathom crown
#

Thick skin is a lot easier for starting out. High confidence is only good if you're really good at avoiding damage

uneven ledge
#

high confidence is good if you're an actual god in real life

plush isle
#

What about Fiery Presence vs Shadow Presence?

uneven ledge
#

the +50 max hp is super helpful for newer players

#

which is me

fathom crown
#

Either is good. I switch those a lot depending on my weapon

uneven ledge
#

fiery presence is good for taking out squishier enemies really quickly, shadow is better for if you have low damage

#

like shadow is better for fists but fiery is better for shield maybe, although fiery is all-around not very good for bosses

ornate remnant
#

same arguement--fiery is better (sometimes) against general rooms, shadow is better against bosses

plush isle
#

I am really on the edge about choosing between Chthonic Vitality and Dark Regeneration.

uneven ledge
#

dark regen is the one that heals you when you collect darkness right?

plush isle
#

Yeah.

ornate remnant
#

dark regen if you're using the dark thirst weapon imo. usually still take it otherwise, but could go for chthonic

uneven ledge
#

it can be pretty helpful if you're already farming darkness because then you'd be getting more heals

plush isle
#

Is Family Favorite better than Priviliged status?

uneven ledge
#

i haven't unlocked that talent yet bouldy

ornate remnant
#

that one is pretty build-dependent

pastel cipher
#

It's more consistent but on average does less damage, so entirely build dependant as Swan says

plush isle
#

I am super overwhelmed, what weapon should get me the highest chance to "beat the game" for the first time?

ornate remnant
#

shield is generally the easiest because of the ability to block

#

though that's not a universal experience

plush isle
#

What kind of builds do people run on the shield?

ornate remnant
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for base shield...main damage on attack (ex. artemis, aphrodite) and utility on special (ex. athena, demeter)

plush isle
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Do people normally unlock ||Aspects|| before beating the final boss?

ornate remnant
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generally, yeah, though not always, from what I've seen

plush isle
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Do base shields inflict the amount of status to make Privilileged status better than Family Favorite?

ornate remnant
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only boons inflict status effects for the purposes of PS

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so you'd want something like aphrodite attack and || demeter || dash

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with maybe zeus special

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that would be a solid shield build

plush isle
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Alright, need to unlock ||Demeter|| first though.

ornate remnant
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so then dionysus dash

fathom crown
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I had my first clear with the bow, and Dionysus. Just kiting stuff around, keeping DoT up. I think easiest first clear is more about what you're comfortable with than about a universal "best weapon"

ornate remnant
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or poseidon dash with his rupture boon

plush isle
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Thanks for the help.

ornate remnant
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sure thing ^.^

fathom crown
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Also bear in mind that ||Demeter|| should be spoiler tagged in this channel :)

plush isle
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Right, sorry for annoying you so much but what Keepsake should I be using with the shield or in general.

ornate remnant
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that one is a bit less strict than others, though you're not wrong that it probably should ^.^

ornate remnant
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iridium you have no idea how funny that is btw, my nickname is normally "Swan | Tag Spoilers Gang"

plush isle
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Soo if I understand this correctly, I should be using the keepsake of the god who I need boons from?

ornate remnant
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yup!

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you're guaranteed one boon, plus their boons will be better

plush isle
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Okay, thanks a lot.

ornate remnant
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sure thing friendly

leaden whale
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I've been keeping my eye on Hades ever since it launched but actually playing it now after getting it for Christmas feels pretty sweet

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Managed to get to the final boss on my second day ^^ Still pretty harsh though T-T

hardy oyster
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when i started i realised the first save had an gold icon, what does that mean?

ornate remnant
hardy oyster
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ahh okay ty

plush isle
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Isn't Athena attack better for shield since it has deflect over Aphrodite attack?

ornate remnant
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Aphrodite has higher damage. Athena works on just about anything, but isn't always the best

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Because the shield has the block on attack, I tend to take Athena's special if I go for her at all

fathom crown
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For keepsakes, if I don't have a specific god in mind or want to gamble a bit, I will use the coin purse in one of the first two zones, and try to buy expensive stuff at the last shop. After the second zone it's all ||acorn||, all the time, for me

kindred gazelle
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deflect takes priority over block and dodge afaik

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no wait it was dodge>deflect>block i think

ornate remnant
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It used to be dodge > block, that was changed though

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Because of some weird/annoying interactions

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You can't have block and deflect at the same time except for very limited circumstances, so wouldn't worry about that

kindred gazelle
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i was fighting the final boss with shield and was blocking his projectile ||skull|| but i dodged it so instead of deleting the projectile it went past me dropped on the floor and later did the aoe explosion

ornate remnant
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Huh...that was recently?

kindred gazelle
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yesterday

ornate remnant
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Wack. I guess they didn't change it for all interactions. The main one was against any laser attacks, like brimstones—holding block against that if you had dodge, the dodge would constantly pop up

drowsy plover
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Whew I defeated ||Alecto|| but barely. Her attacks are so fast

solar panther
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I find ||Tisiphone|| the nastiest but yea ||Alecto|| is hard the first few times

uneven ledge
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i don't know about you but ||tisiphone|| is wayyy easier than ||alecto||

solar panther
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Idk for me ||Alecto|| is a breeze compared to ||Tisiphone||

dusk bay
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Do you guys think Heightened Sec is worth it for the 1 heat?

woven eagle
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No. It makes traps in elysium deal way more damage than it is worth

dusk bay
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Same

woven eagle
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I would prohably not take it for 2

dusk bay
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Also

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Its not 400% dmg total

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Its added after the base 100%

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So you take 5 times the dmg

fathom crown
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Heightened Security also affects the ||skulls and vases in the Hades boss fight||, which cost me a run :(

woven eagle
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||The pots in the final boss fight deal 30 normally. With this, they deal 150. No way that's worth less than 3 heat||

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Lava also starts scaling at 5 and goes up faster

muted latch
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||Heightened Security is like the nastiest thing to have, there is a reason high heat runs avoid it||

marble shadow
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Just ||godmode it||

fathom crown
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So.... what's the gentlest option for || 1 heat ||? Asking for a friend

woven eagle
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Prohably the timer one if you are fast enogh?

muted latch
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||timer or EM1||

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||9 min is WELL ENOUGH for even the slowest builds||

marble shadow
muted latch
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||like you can just attack with any weapon and clear Tartarus in 9 min||

woven eagle
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Just pick anything except heightened security, nothing is too hard at the first level

muted latch
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||damage control is also good on fast attack weapons, it basically does nothing||

zealous bison
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folks

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why and how is this game so good? pogcacospin

marble shadow
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Should I even try Extreme Measures

zealous bison
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it makes me wish i paid more attention in school during history lessons

woven eagle
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You have to get used to it, but nothing that hard really

muted latch
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EM1 and 2 are basically nothing

fathom crown
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I'm tempted to use EM just to spice up some boss fights

muted latch
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if you can clear them normally you can clear them on EM

marble shadow
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I dont think I can beat final boss reliably

muted latch
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maybe a certain combination of Tis that might be tough on EM1

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but any EM2 Hydra is a pushover just like normal

woven eagle
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EM3 makes ||asterius a lot harder and thesius irrelevant for half the fight||

marble shadow
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||Thesius so annoying omfg can I punch this guy in the gut||

fathom crown
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That dork is already irrelevant

muted latch
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||I tried EM4 its effing hell||

woven eagle
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Em4 is hard but the fight is such a rush that it is worth it imo

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Just don't pick anything else with it

muted latch
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well this is beyond the topic of this channel

fathom crown
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My current"hard mode" struggle is ||clearing a run with Stubborn Defiance||, for the prophecy. It's the last one I need, and it's so hard for me because I am bad a the last fight

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@muted latch yeah, fair honestly

woven eagle
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You can just take skellies keepsake for another life(it does not regenerate but it might save you for the final boss fight)

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Acorn is prohably more life though

muted latch
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or keepsake Athena at styx and gamble for an extra

leaden whale
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guys

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what are those things that are a round stone with 3 different colored dots around them and exclamation mark

drowsy plover
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Ugh, I got ||Tisiphone|| now, she obliterated me. I am not used to the spear either

muted latch
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NPC room

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always take it

leaden whale
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ohhh

ornate remnant
leaden whale
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okay ty

muted latch
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needs them for story as well

leaden whale
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usually...

muted latch
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so early on always take them

ornate remnant
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Not an always, but usually. And yeah, they're part of the story

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What's in the room is the same every time

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You just don't always need it

muted latch
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for a certain region yes

drowsy plover
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Should I tag them for spoiler?

ornate remnant
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Early on though, yeah definitely take them

muted latch
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not necessarily

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anything before final boss is game

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final boss and past that are spoilers

drowsy plover
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Sisyphus in Tartarus, Eurydice in Asphodel. They have nice boons and you need them for story

woven eagle
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Until you know when you don't need them, I would always take the rooms. There is no negative outcome, so the only reason not to take them is if there is an alternative room that you know is better

leaden whale
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whats should i pick from eurydice (i found another npc room)

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i also dont have a build

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to be honest im only asking because i dont actually know what the things do

covert nova
leaden whale
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shield

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unless you are amazing at dodging

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then spear

woven eagle
leaden whale
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most of my damage comes from shield charge attack

covert nova
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Ty

leaden whale
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Well I found out two new things on my last couple of runs

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  1. Cluster Bomb & Rocket on Rail is stupid powerful
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  1. Turns out you can make ||Charon|| really, really mad
drowsy plover
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No, I'm doing worse now...

next ore
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hey guys for my tital blood can i only upgrade my rail ?

drowsy plover
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Can't get past the furies anymore

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I'm just upset because I feel like I'm plateauing

leaden whale
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I felt like that the first few runs when ||the bosses of the first two regions|| started to change as well

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Just got to suck it up and learn them and get the repetition in, practice makes perfect

errant bramble
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@next ore no you can upgrade all of them. You probably just need to go equip the other weapon and the press E to reveal

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Altho they may unlock one at a time, I don’t remember. But I think it was all at onc

next ore
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yeah i just found that out too

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its all at once

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thanks anyways

solar panther
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How do u unlock weapon aspects

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I’ve heard of them but have never seen them

leaden whale
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unlock every weapon first, skelly(?) should tell you about them after that

daring idol
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is there a way to reset the way you used your titan blood?

leaden whale
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There isn't sadly

tribal adder
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woah i just beat ||thanatos's challenge||

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30-4

leaden whale
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Nice! Congrats

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I'm still working on trying to get that win by 15 kills achievement

tribal adder
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got the chain attack with the spear special and posiedon knockback on it aswell

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but it was pretty early ig mostly pots and the pink gem things

rich cave
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Kill all the weakest ones and let him take care of the stronger ones if he’s already targeted them

tribal adder
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yeah i did that

rich cave
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And use weapons that can deal a lot of damage quickly

leaden whale
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I've got to pay more attention to what he's targeting then

rich cave
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The ones he’s targeting have an indicator over them

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Sometimes you can kill them before he does but if it’s an enemy with a lot of health don’t waste your time

leaden whale
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Noted! My best so far is a 14 kill advantage and it hurt my soul

tribal adder
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since you cant post images can you post links or is that not allowed

leaden whale
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you can post links

tribal adder
dusty hawk
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Nice

fathom crown
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I didn't know he could show up in Tartarus.

subtle granite
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he can, but he only does when you lost quite a bit of health there as far as i know 👀 you good bud?

tribal adder
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think i died to ||the 3rd fury sister|| that run

subtle granite
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;-;

tribal adder
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shes scary

subtle granite
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deflect is your best friend with that fight

tribal adder
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idk how to tell when she does anything

subtle granite
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or just knowing when to attack

tribal adder
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oh btw if youre the one who told me about how to do meg its working

subtle granite
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it does take some time with her

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idk did i?