#h1-for-new-players
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why play hades for 50 runs at 100° when you can just play 1 run at 5000°?
Until you unlock it the only way to get more stuff is by using different weapons
and this:
Always check the wretched broker and if the special deal is
1 titan blood => 200 gems
and
15 keys => 1 titan blood
ALWAYS take it. Cause you can do
1 titan blood》200gems》20keys》1 titan blood and 5 keys.
So also keep 1 titan blood and enough keys or enough gems at ready
depends
Also: God's legacy vs God's pride. any thoughts?
Mini boss chambers give 15
What do they do again
+20% chance for epic boon vs +10% chance duo/legendary boon
This is a hard one. Depends on weapon/aspect/intended build. A bit of a cop out answer but it depends on so many things.
I use the 20% for epic boon one
I tend to run Pride and just hope for the duo
I'd rather end up with a full set of epics and no duo because at least then the pieces I have are still strong
true. Duo boons have limited use anyways
Yeah I do the same because imo it’s much more useful to get more epic boons than it is to get maybe one legendary/duo boon
pride is so good for chaos/hermes
I use that with the one that gives 40% chance for rare boons too and I get really solid builds
It’s better to ensure you’ll get a good enough build than hope for an overpowered one
legendary is just slightly bettwe epic
I do exactly the same, works out nicely for me
Too bad there isn’t one that increases your odds for heroic boons
nah legendary is not a rarity its a class of boons i missremembered that
If you get lucky in Asphodel you can always bump the epics up via Eurydice
Welcome! Better late than never
i still dont remember using legends that much, even in stage 4
it usually works out for me
You get them so inconsistently that you can’t make a good build around them
basically
if you do get them, id still wouldn't believe it can single-handedly carry a run
i wonder thou how the additional defiance slot from unorganized god ||chaos|| interacts with stubborn defiance
It stacks.
wtf ||chaos|| is spoiled here, you find it so early
so 2 revives every room?
im gonna be warned for a ton of spoilers here lmao
It’s the new players chat so
fair
No, one revive every room and one one-time death
oh wow that's lame
You can also stack Athena's boons DD in the same manner under specific conditions
yeah, but chaos legendary is so rare you shouldn't rely on that as a strategy
Finally completed all prophecies
Man, that run would have been way better if I hadn't had that one upgrade.
btw what boon do you recommend for fists? i like going for demeters frost since you can apply the stacks so fast and you can keep pummeling longer since they are slowed
So, how do I get more ||blood|| for my weapons
How far are you
trade with the ||exchange ghost at the lounge once your a bit far into the game||
or just use other weapons against the ||furries||
turn daddys thermostat
after a couple of good escape attempts it should appear
The furries.
well there was no other way of saying it..
Huh?
beat the game once then you'll understand
There’s plenty of opportunities to get more
it's so accurate it hurts
Just make sure you invest it in aspects you actually want to use before you beat it
i pumped all my blood in fist zagreus aspect. No regrets whatsoever
I did aspect of Zeus shield first now I’m doing magnet fist (forgot what it’s called)
i hate using shield, i can never get ahold of using it
i just pumped the bow because im dumb
i like using demeters cast and doom on attack with it. Slowly camp em down
surprisingly it stacks very well with any cast boon + aspect of hera
lmao
Stygian soul is a good choice
Okie dokie
Fated persuasion
i got rail.with 5x bombs and +20%special speed. The room is a continuous explosion
Rail sure is a weapon in the video game hades by developer supergiant games
God I hate it so much
yeah it doesnt fit in
I actually like the rail. delta chamber is so fun
I’ve hardly gotten past asphodel with it
come play hades we have:
ancient sword
ancient spear
ancient shield
ancient bow
ancient fists
GUN
you forgot the word ancient
Rail + Zeus = love
Kitchen knife
Salad fork
Dinner plate
Arrow thing
🤛
Pew pew
Kitchen knife
fork
dinner plate
Fixed 👌
god i love fighting hydra so much
the fight just feels so good and is always fun
alright I just finally beat the last boss after that mistakenly aborted last run, thanks for the encouragement @muted latch @quick hearth @alpine ridge
Congratulations!@livid ledge
The Olympian Gods were generous with their blessings this time. Haha
And I thought the last run was perfect! Little did I know that this one was even better in many ways. Shield plus a Hermes boon is OP
When I have the shield, I usually run in a corner and raise it. Everything is blocked. LOL ||The 45 seconds challenge chamber of Hades just pass by. Haha||
but then you miss out on cash
Does shield-rush count as attack?
Only in high heat situations do I do that.
I don't think so.. When I have the ||chaos boon active that hurts me everytime I attack, the damage only applies when I use the attack. No further damage for charging and releasing the bull rush.|| So I guess, no?
it is an attack. It applies all effects from attack boons
I actually never block or bull rush
Oh sorry. Yes, the attack boon applies to it too.
It’s either special or dash attack
I thought you were asking for ||chaos||
And I always go for divine dash
Oh come on the goddamn explosions from rail cause so many particle effects i legit couldnt see enemy attacks
Oh btw
Can i block fury sister skill thats a circle?

Since its not rlly coming from ahead
For the shield attack boon, I usually avoid boons that needs to stack before it deals real damage like Dionysus'.
maybe if you're blocking towards the centre of the circle
I haven't tried blocking it. But I guess I'll try later. Haha
ooh i see makes sense
i was wondering if i should aim for the center of circle or the boss
doom works great on shield. Bull rush charge is just slightly shorter than doom trigger time. So you can just charge through and then chill behind the shield till doom triggers
I go for doom for the shield's special. Doom doom dooooom!
doom and aspect of chaos for the shield is pretty fun imo
i'm back 
finally caved in and bought hades, and...
my god this game is amazing so far 
5 runs in, got to the second boss, got my butt kicked
went back home and saw my parents arguing about my distant relatives
so i didn't play that much yet...
but - there's one thing i'd like to say about this so far
The story is really cool. I’d recommend not reading this channel too much despite the spoiler bars haha
knowing SGGs previous games i'm pretty sure the ending will make me cry 
but for now - i gotta admit - this might be the closest thing to my dream of...
playing a supergiant game with a comedic tone
the writing so far is just 😙👌
just facetanked elysium boss with 50%+ dodge chance
every other line gives me a healthy chuckle
this is basically me during my first few runs so far 
oh correction 71.4 % dodge chance

also...
||oh boy oh man||
||megs voice though
||
bonk go to horny hell
i mean
||i'm already here
||
anyway - back to making awful transistor puns over at #transistor
If you can believe, there’s a sexier voice coming up imo lol

i know. Charon's voice is just mmmhhhhhh
Hahaha
omw to fight the final boss with 73.8 % dodge chance
ahahhaha i just completely facetanked the final boss
What did you have to get that dodge rate?
fists with aspect of zagreus for 15%
Hermes dodge and speed after call for 30% and hermes feather stacked up to 28.8%
This game is great, because every time I meet a character, I know who they are.
I'm a longtime mythology buff
Skelly is very well known in the Greek Pantheon.
Okay, fair, but still, I've recognized all the 🗨️ right away
agreed
pretty sure Skelly is actually ||ahaha gotcha|| from mythology
Wow
Didn’t know that
Interesting
Scrolled up to the conversation about megs voice and I wholeheartedly agree
The key is to play the game on mute
But why would u want to miss out on that @lone nova? @quick hearth have u gotten all of it from each weapon?
Hmm idk I’m relatively new, sorry
I have only gotten 3 and don’t know what they’re for haha
Only 3 in total
if you already unlocked the ||heat modifier, boss rewards will reset for every level of heat||
Np 
@ocean cosmos mark that as a spoiler please
k done
Oh i see, but i need to beat ||Hades|| for it or theres something else? 
@ocean cosmos not the whole thing lmao
well mark the boss name as spoiler as well imo

it should unlock after defeating the boss for the first time no?
I dont remember when I unlocked it 
to unlock the 4th spear aspect and allow for the others to be unlocked you need to
-invest 5 titanblood into non zagreus aspects
-reach the final boss at least once (defeating him is not required)
then speak with achilles until he mentions something about a vision
then go and interact with the spear twice to make the aspect visible
@quick hearth
Okay, I think that this upgrade for the sword has made me impossible to kill
so i killed my 1st boss megaera 🥰😂
NICE!
3 runs 
Got it @kindred gazelle was wondering how i could get the heat up
for more titanbloods
spoiler tag ||heat|| please
anything after the completion of the first run is a spoiler in this channel
Oh my god. I found the final boss of the third area.
Excuse me a moment. I have to go fangirlboy.
Start browsing ||#h1-high-heat-strategies||, there is a pin to introduce you to 32 - that will help you figure out which ones are easier
VICTORY
if you've already unlocked it, it's in ||skelly's room, the door on your way out should have an orange glow with a scroll thingy on top of it||
lol congrats @native ember
sounds of panicked buttonmashing
Game is tough at the beginning. General tips for meg is you need to be patient. Running around and only hit her when she's static
Even when you are good you still need patience to beat her coz she's wild
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Generally for all bosses, learn their attack patterns, their attacks are mostly well telegraphed, and dont be greedy 
@ocean cosmos I was this close
||I lost to phase two with less than 10% left||
I am so mad at myself.
If I had had one more ||defiance|| I would have won HANDS DOWN
Well now you know what to expect. DO EET AGAIN!
I was so close.
That Daedalus upgrade for the blade was amazin
So what can I use ||ambrosia|| for
Besides trade
||Deepening late-stage relationships||
Lol i have that experience as well, ||i was so happy i defeated the guy, then phase 2 happened, that moment i know im fked||
@ocean cosmos I thought to myself 'I might squeak it out'
But then I accidentally stood in a ||laser|| like a dummy and lost a ton of HP
yeah
It's also really hard to dash
wait
OH MY GOSH I WONDERED WHY THEY HADN'T SHOWN UP
Why is everyone using thr cover message
spoilers
How high does Godhood go
80%
Got it; thanks, I'm taking a break at the moment but when I get back on I'll keep it in mind
you can unlock ||heat || by || defeating the final boss ||
I've never completed a run with the spear. Any tips for a spear player (aspect, hammer, boons, etc)?
- serrated point (hammer) is really good, but takes some getting used to. best used with an extra dash or two
- flurry jab is another fantastic hammer, esp with zeus attack
- I like ||demeter|| on attack, but I think that's just me
hades is my favorite aspect by far
oh
got it
Also re: spear, for me personally I find that special builds don't work without specific hammers (charged skewer, exploding skewer).
special builds don't really work unless you're using the hidden aspect
Should I just max the default spear aspect for now and then build up other aspects?
No, avoid Zag spear imo
it's not bad...but the others are better, generally
I may be biased bc it's my least favorite aspect in the game
So should I go with Hades aspect or the hidden one?
Achilles is pretty good but requires big brian
I think Hades spear is pretty good
you can test run an aspect by unlocking it then immediately going on a run, then giving up b4 you die
hades > achilles > hidden >>> zag for me
I'd swap achilles and hidden, personally, but otherwise yeah
and I could see either way on those two
I'll give Aspect of Hades a shot. I like its design, too.
its so sick
does flurry jab work with hades?
nop
that's its only drawback
because the spin attack is like the whole point of the aspect lol
also, protip: instead of letting go of attack to use a spin attack, press dash instead
gives you invincibility and extends the range by quite a bit
ok thanks for the tip
npnp
Achilles spear is super fun.
You get to fly all over the place and toss out supercharged Casts
wheeeee
Yes just like that ^^
hades is easier to build for
achilles kinda requires ares cast + hunting blades to be super effective
I guess I should try the gauntlets more
hunting blades works with anything
I’ve done fine with Zeus cast, Artemis Cast, trippy shot
achilles is also good with curse of drowning and other non lodging casts
for lodging casts, i'd take poseidon sword, because i'm too impatient to wait for them to fall out on their own
I have probably an unhealthy love for Trippy shot tho. I just want to go feast+ice wine all the time lol
I love dio's cast even though I've only won with it once on hidden shield
I'd go out on a foot and say dio cast is the best cast
Not a huge fan of Zeus unless I get the extra bounces but poseidon is pretty good
But like dio's cast with the extra effects you can pile on it, just remains my fav
Zeus cast is specifically for cast builds or like randomly killing Flame chariots.
Zeus cast on Achilles quite good
ice wine and scintillating feast are bangin duos
If I don't have trippy shot I'm looking to see dio once for strong drink and never see him again
Dio's hangover is also good for fast hitting weapons
i just did a clear with fists and zeus chain lightning boom, and dodge
damn that was fun
sadly Dio doesn't really synergize with himself because newer stacks of hangover overwrite old ones
Yea well ofc I mean when I'm not looking to hangover
Any tips for beating the bone hydra? Got to 20% on my third try but it gets rough
dodge
What are you struggling with
Focus one hydra at a time
And what weapon do you use
Yeah I'm doing that I just get overwhelmed with everything going on
you get used to it eventually
practice more i guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Tried the bow twice and then the fists
You'll get the hang of it
Got way closer with the fists
Huh, really
With the bow just stay away and keep shooting
Yeah
With fists you want to watch out for ground pound and otherwise keep punching
I couldn't even do the hydra with the fists first time i tried
Although I did have a huge damage buff and deflect on them lol
Whilst i cleared the 3rd boss with the bow, but that's presonal preference i guess
The hydra has really easy tells if you pay attention like it really tells you what the next move he's gonna do will be
Also every hydra head looks different based on what it's projectile is
I can read him I just keep ending up dying to... something
Half the time idk killed me
Well play more defensively then
With the spear for example you can just stand there and normal attack without him being able to reach you
Yeah, if you're unsure
Hydra easily has the most predictable rhythm
Since it seems you're just getting your hp chipped slowly
Dodge. Dodge is your friend :D
I usually lose like 80 hp to Hydra lmao
Take it slow and don't go for risky openings
as long as I don't lose a DD im not salty
Yea I only lose hp to the second time hydra summons
Yeah. The invincibility thing also triggers when it loses certain % of hp so there's no rush
ya
At first I thought it was a time thing
You can out maneuver the attacks of the main head and first 3 summons if you're paying attention
I mean, you can out maneuver the second wave of summons as well
It's really not that hard once you get the hang of what different heads do what and how long their attack animations are
If you have deflects it's brilliant
Yea
Look at the colors of the heads
Green summons mobs, meaning it's relatively safe to be around them
Orange shoots globules of flame/lava that leaves a lavapool wherever they land
Pink shoots the wave-thingies that some skeletons shoot
Lol just crit big rat for 2500 😛
Np
turn down the music so the blue heads stop headbanging
Man getting so close beating last boss. 3x now
I beat ||Meg|| in maybe a minute
||2nd phase is easier if you know the patterns||
||I was too beat at this point, he just smacked me and off to styx we go||
aaaayyyy
i keep aid to finish off bosses, it helps so much
how the hell do i kill the witches when i'm not using the bow
any attack should dissolve the projectiles
Either that+dodging or deflect
What are you using?
what about the butterflies in the third area? they take away a lot of health and trying to kill them is damn near impossible
just circumvent them
what if there's 3 of them and they're all over the place and i have to avoid three swordies
if you get close enough to the bfly ball the new spawning flies will get dissolved by your attack
I'd say prioritize the balls and keep running from swords, there's no easy way about it but you gotta do what you gotta do
Area attacks are good to clean butterflies while you rush to approach
fortunately the swords do take sometime to catch up to you cause they like to stand in place and shoot their waves
can i even backstab them? i mean... they're balls
you cant backstab them no
thanks supergiant
Like you said. Balls.
boiling blood works though if you have that
@native ember nice grats! What build got you there?
Varathra with a ton of damage boost
My first win was Cluster Bomb+Rocket bomb, tempest flourish. Just played pinball.
Chill
finally beat ||theseus and asterius|| but i died twice 
and now i actually am going to die because of these crystals 
what cast are you running?
bouncing lightning?
my set is pretty bad it seems
at least i managed to """vanquish""" ||cerberus||
but now i'm at 100 hp and am probably gonna die to the last boss
dd?
so you have none remaining?
can't hear you gonna die now
lmao you got this, just dodge everything ez
just don't get hit lol!
50% of the time works everytime
hypnos taught me
rail feels weird to use
rail was so awkward when i first used it and i thought it was the worst weapon
but then somehow magically i ended up killing the final boss with it, and that was my first clear
I'm in Chaos realm, and when leaving it's letting me choose between 3 of the same item path
I don't know what item it is
Yeah, Rail felt super... wrong at first
And then ironically it became one of my best weapons
Sounds like you took the Enshrouded curse, so you won't be able to tell what the exits are until it wears off SMBXxer
While I still feel like a moron with it. But apparently it works xD
Ah
rail is just like that
it was funny cause i hadnt crossed elysium before that run either
Hestia engrained the reload reflex in me
hestia is a whole different playstyle from other rails though
eris feels like the most raily rail
I mean, that's usually how weapon aspects work yes :p
eris and zag arent that different
And if you wanna talk about weird playstyles don't even get me started on the secret one lol
all the secret ones are just curve balls
Well upgraded Zag and Eris can be somewhat different
Absorbing your special is something you do on accident as Zag rather than on purpose
And upgraded Zag has double ammo, for sustained fire
sure but they dont radically change the way you play them like with hestia where youre only ever shooting one bullet
when i play hestia i almost never fire full chambers
it really does play quite differently imo
To be fair I don't have it at 5 yet so it doesn't quite have the full unf to finish the job in 1 shot yet
does hermes attack change charge or reload times?
like charge times with bow for example and reload on rails ofc
the attack speed boon does increase charge speed on the bow
You get a lot of blood pretty quickly if you can master each weapon ||on low heats||
there's also ||a few achievements|| that give a bunch of blood, contractor upgrade spoiler
Most prophecies that give titan blood require beating the game but there's a few that don't
which weapon is best for the final boss
Shield I guess
hmm
You can block all his attacks
Wait, seriously?
Yes
yeah shield's block can't exactly be broken lol

I think the pots might hit you but everything else I can confirm will get blocked
Just point behind you if someone is attacking from behind though that's pretty rare
I really need to invest in the cap america strat
It even blocks the laser
What is "best" weapon for beating the boss is very subjective though
Basic shield can block just as fine since bull rush is available to all shields
Some people rock the sword, others struggle until they find the power of GUN
Being able to block is pretty important considering you are most likely beaten up by the time you get there
This is true, it's really dependant on player
Shield just happens to be like one of the easiest imo
Unless you follow Hypnos' wisdom and just don't get hit
But then again, if you do that everything should be peachy
Well most of the times I reach the boss I haven't lost any death defiance so yea
That being said, yeah shield is pretty reliable
I still win sometimes even if I reach the boss with like one DD left
But boss himself ends up taking one defiance or two depending on my build, I haven't failed with shield yet though
It depends how well my run is going
But generally, I think I'm probably going to win if I reach him with all DDs remaining
Zeus shield in particular is my goto weapon for cheesing runs
shield might be really useful for the lasers at the final area
If I have great DPS I only need one DD. If my run is a bit wonky I much need 4
Give dad a hug
you are completely invincible from the front with the shield block
like there is NOTHING in the game that ignores the shield block
abuse that
Think they means the serpentstones
Oh. Yeah don't hug them.
Though, to share a Bloodborne meme.
"Shields are useful, but not if they engender passivity"
The champion of elysium hacks, so why can't I
Because we don't want to be him
is there a boon that lets me deflect "any" attack with shield
The champion of elysium can use two weapons at a time
Divine strike
We can only use one
like lasers and close-range attacks
But you need to be attacking
It won't deflect while you're blocking
Though Athena's aid will do that

Athena's aid is your 10 sec pass to mash buttons
Theseus exposed for haxxor
Imagine using two weapons and still needing a bull to even be more threatening than shieldbro exalted
I've currently gotten to a point in the story where Theseus is very mad at me. Good.
And still calling for divine aid
how could you be mad at ||asterius||
you can only "deflect back" projectiles iirc

realest of all
Even if he tries to split Zag in half sometimes
theseus - evil
I mean idk how you can be as insufferable as theseus but hey if he can do that being mad at asterius is nothing
theseus is evil
Asterius just wants a good battle like every other shade in elysium
Simps on who?
He simps on theseus
like he will even do something for you down the line
Idk why he's friends with Theseus but he never sounded like he's simping to me, he just stays cool on his corner
And at least he manages to be a good sport when he talks to you
Sure but then he stays shut when theseus is mouthing off on me
That's fair
Some respect he has for me when he can't even speak up while I'm being berated for crimes I didn't commit
Also when you meet him solo he still keeps praising theseus and even goes as far as to tell you that you're nothing compared to theseus the same way he's nothing compared to zag's dad
At the moment I'm talking to a rock because Sysiphus told me to, so anything can happen
He respects Theseus for killing him.
That's... odd.
I've killed him 40-50 times more than theseus has
in the original mythology Theseus killed a minotaur
Though I think deep down he knows that Theseus is kind of a blowhard, but he has a very stubborn honor
There is only one Minotaur iirc
Yeah
But also he respects theseus for winning against him and then becoming friends with him and then saving his soul from tarturus and giving him home in elysium
Not just a minotaur
also down the line ||Asterius respects Zag||
Yea I reached that point but he still hols theseus in higher regard over zag
what happens if i beat thanatos
Oh, this is nice at least
Makes sense, considering he has a personal debt
He gives you a centaur heart
that's it?
Hey, extra health isn't nothing
Yeah
i was expecting something... more than that really
You can always kick back and let him deal with everyone while you run
beating him basically means you get double rewards
He'll eventually kill everything
i mean 25 hp is 25 hp but considering actually getting more kills than him is damn hard i thought it would be something like a boon
Is it tho?
it will become laughably easy in the future
at least he doesn't kill you if he beats you by like 14 kills
Anyway my problem with asterius is that if my friend was being rude to someone for no reason I'd talk some sense into him especially if I respected the other person and was super into honor and stuff like asterius is
||I hate him on EM3||
But he should put a sock on Theseus' mouth
Sure never said you were wrong to like him, I just don't like him
Not disagreeing
@muted latch agreed but it's okay cause theseus is a joke
do i get to use the titan blood after my first clear?
Idk if that's helpful at all, spammy, but I usually win against Thanatos by kill stealing
Why do I land a 3k crit with hestia on...an unarmored witch? 😦
once you unlock all weapons talk to skelly and inspect weapons
Can't kill steal than cause he one hit kos
the problem for me is that thanatos literally steals all my kills
Because there is no kill like overkill
then you are not killing stuff fast enough
That is, instead of getting away from him and trying to kill the ones he's not attacking, I rush the ones that he's marked
During the countdown
That way he's not getting any counts
I usually only have trouble with Chariot rooms
other rooms it's a constant 15+ shutdown
Yeah I beat thanatos, crushingly, like 80% of the time
If I don't my run is doomed basically
when their hp bar is purple and i kill them did i actually kill them or did than just happen to land the killing blow
Not dead if they're movin'
i killed like 3 guys with purple hp bars and i only got one kill 
Then Than's attack went off
you are not killing them fast enough
Try to kill the squishy targets and leave the armored ones for what’s his name
Now for the philosophical question: can you kill steal death?
Well, you can killed marked enemies, which'll annoy him, so you can kill-steal from death
Yes because Thanatos is slow, old age-y death
Not Hermes/Charon deaths which are faster
Yeah all the violent death gets chucked down the river Styx
Think Styx has a very particular requirement, not sure what but violent deaths are hermes
Iirc Hermes and Charon work together. Hermes brings the souls to Styx, Charon ferries them. So violent deaths also == Styx
That's everyone's favourite pastime doesn't count
You can also just not die
||Tight Deadline||, the ender of ||high heat|| runs
oh hey amanda 
good to see you here :D
You too!
how are you liking hades?
man i had 500 darkness and i could have bought another dd but my dumbass said "more hp"
sorry
What hammers and special are good for hidden aspect rail gun?
that's a question for #h1-builds-and-combat , probably
- rare most of the ime
unless I have a build that specifies a certain duo in mind
like archilles hunting blades
if i reclaim my purple droplets spent on talents do i get all of them back to use
you should, yes
another question, do both sides of the mirror "buffs" work or only one side
like shadow presence and fiery presence
only the one you can see is active
okay thanks
ye 
Why isn't the stubborn defiance, what ever it's called, not working?
ohhh..... damn okay, didn't realize that. Thank you!
Sure thing ^.^
bow is so annoying
what do you guys think is better, abyssal blood or boiling blood?
I tend to use Boiling
abyssal is better if you tend to get hit more, or if you plan on making a facetank build
Which dodge skill is better?
I like damage so right now I have the +50% after a near miss dodge but i feel likes it too conditional to be better than the extra dodge
Is it bad that I died 12 times? Can't get past Theseus
at least that's better than me
Honestly I still don't know what I'm doing, just dashing and slamming enemies into walls with Aegis
Theseus is a lot easier with anything that can go through his shield
I think artemis has a boon that does that
👀
Haven't really got Artemis, mostly Poseidon, Ares and Aphrodite
Some hammer effects also have it
12 deaths and still no victory is perfectly reasonable
I find that it's quite normal to hit against a boss over and over and once you get it it's smooth sailing
Ah ok heard some people beat it in less than 10 and I'm like huh I must be doing something wrong
Died a lot to the Elysium duo, then never again
pretty sure average is hovering around 25-30 runs, but I've seen ranges from 3rd to past 80, so don't stress it
the amount of attempts another person gets their first clear isn't really relevent to your enjoyment of the game imo ^_^
also true!
Its insane how consistent you can get at some parts after you beat it the first time
Yeah. It's like something clicks
Ah okay ty. Well yea it's definitely challenging. Many times I couldn't get out of Tartarus xD surprised I made it to Elysium without dying to Hydra
You'll be laughing at the jerk king in time
ayy that's awesome 
progress is always great 
greatest reflex imo
greatest reflex
build doesn't matter when the game is giving you 3 extra dashes
it's almost always the best option
Is anything in particular giving you trouble, though, @drowsy plover ? Theseus is easy to get with high damage Aid, but you need to pace yourself until you can get him alone
seems like for me as a new player shield just gets me further no matter what XD compared to other weapons. made it to a surden Red Boss* and lost 😦 this time ill beat he/she/it! 😉
Hi, how do I fight against those annoying poison wolf (I really detest those things) in styx
They literally killed off 2 of my DD
along with armored crystals
Wait to dash until they start their attack, and immediately go for a mandrake pool if they hit you
what if the crystals are targeting you as well
take them out first, ideally
it mostly depends on which one you have an easier time dodging
I did get him alone and almost won but died when I was very close
When I click B and I see all my abilities or whatever you want to call them do I have to have to activate them in some way or is it automatic?
automatic
the ability to select them is purely for taking screenshots to show off your build
Sure thing ^.^
What is an easy way to get your ideal build?
Do god keepsakes only work at the beginning of a run?
nope!
well--
they work once per keepsake, per run
and you can early on unlock something that lets you switch keepsakes mid-run
So for tartarus I can have artemis, and for asphodel I can have ares?
yup!
sweet
Also what does "mouse lock" do in the settings, can't really tell a difference
i literally started today, i have no idea what the red looking bucket with blood in the bottom right? i think it is at least
Pretty sure it locks your mouse within the game window, that's usually what that does
Now I died to the Hydra oof
feels good knowing one day i'll be able to beat up ||theseus|| no sweat
I'm not totally sure what you're referring to, sorry
Does Fated Persuasion work on hammer boons?
nope
That's butts.
sorry, just found it, its titans blood, dont know what i do with it @ornate remnant
My ideal build won't work unless I get certain hammer boons
get all of the weapons, and then you get to do something with it
you'll be able to use it once you unlock all 6 weapons
ah ok, thank you both
you mainly get it from beating the first boss for the first time with each weapon but there are other ways you can get it
Is it possible to clear a run with a weapon that has no titan's blood invested in it?
yup
Because I'm great with the bow but not-so-good with the other weapons
it's only recommended, not required
i almost did my first clear with the bow earlier but then he started spawning minions
explosive arrows is really good, and goes great with hunter dash
What upgrades should I choose in the Mirror of Night?
are minor spoilers allowed here marked with || ||
yeah
mirror talents aren't really spoilers, though feel free to tag them as such
the extra dash and death defiance are pretty important
because OH MY GOD ARE ||THE MINOTAUR AND THESEUS SO DAMN TANKY||
or I totally misread your post, I though you said "mirror" not "minor" I really should go to sleep
lol
minor spoilers like that are fine, especially if tagged
I meant in terms of the 2 options of each mirror talent.
the other upgrades are pretty cheap and also provide great benefits but you should really prioritize dd and the dash
i was wondering why u said mirror talents
I have maxed Death Defiance and Greater Reflex, what now?
so there's a boon that lets you bypass "shields" right?
stubborn defiance is better if you tend to take more attrition each room/die to enemies in general. Death defiance is better if you do fine against most enemies, but struggle against bosses
Artemis' cast does so, I believe, as do a couple Hammers
damn, and i thought i'd be able to just ignore shields entirely
would be super helpful for ||theseus||
@plush isle try a lot of options. Eventually, it's pretty cheap to respec, you could do it every run if you wanted.
Should I be using High Confidence or Thick Skin?
Thick skin is a lot easier for starting out. High confidence is only good if you're really good at avoiding damage
high confidence is good if you're an actual god in real life
What about Fiery Presence vs Shadow Presence?
Either is good. I switch those a lot depending on my weapon
fiery presence is good for taking out squishier enemies really quickly, shadow is better for if you have low damage
like shadow is better for fists but fiery is better for shield maybe, although fiery is all-around not very good for bosses
same arguement--fiery is better (sometimes) against general rooms, shadow is better against bosses
I am really on the edge about choosing between Chthonic Vitality and Dark Regeneration.
dark regen is the one that heals you when you collect darkness right?
Yeah.
dark regen if you're using the dark thirst weapon imo. usually still take it otherwise, but could go for chthonic
it can be pretty helpful if you're already farming darkness because then you'd be getting more heals
Is Family Favorite better than Priviliged status?
i haven't unlocked that talent yet 
that one is pretty build-dependent
It's more consistent but on average does less damage, so entirely build dependant as Swan says
I am super overwhelmed, what weapon should get me the highest chance to "beat the game" for the first time?
shield is generally the easiest because of the ability to block
though that's not a universal experience
What kind of builds do people run on the shield?
for base shield...main damage on attack (ex. artemis, aphrodite) and utility on special (ex. athena, demeter)
Do people normally unlock ||Aspects|| before beating the final boss?
generally, yeah, though not always, from what I've seen
Do base shields inflict the amount of status to make Privilileged status better than Family Favorite?
only boons inflict status effects for the purposes of PS
so you'd want something like aphrodite attack and || demeter || dash
with maybe zeus special
that would be a solid shield build
Alright, need to unlock ||Demeter|| first though.
so then dionysus dash
I had my first clear with the bow, and Dionysus. Just kiting stuff around, keeping DoT up. I think easiest first clear is more about what you're comfortable with than about a universal "best weapon"
or poseidon dash with his rupture boon
Thanks for the help.
sure thing ^.^
Also bear in mind that ||Demeter|| should be spoiler tagged in this channel :)
Right, sorry for annoying you so much but what Keepsake should I be using with the shield or in general.
that one is a bit less strict than others, though you're not wrong that it probably should ^.^
general strategy is god keepsakes for the first couple areas, then switch to defensive keepsakes ( || acorn ||, || spearpoint ||, etc.) if you need, or one more god keepsake. Could swap out any of the god keepsakes for hypnos'
iridium you have no idea how funny that is btw, my nickname is normally "Swan | Tag Spoilers Gang"
Soo if I understand this correctly, I should be using the keepsake of the god who I need boons from?
Okay, thanks a lot.
sure thing 
I've been keeping my eye on Hades ever since it launched but actually playing it now after getting it for Christmas feels pretty sweet
Managed to get to the final boss on my second day ^^ Still pretty harsh though T-T
when i started i realised the first save had an gold icon, what does that mean?
Just means it's your active slot
ahh okay ty
Isn't Athena attack better for shield since it has deflect over Aphrodite attack?
Aphrodite has higher damage. Athena works on just about anything, but isn't always the best
Because the shield has the block on attack, I tend to take Athena's special if I go for her at all
For keepsakes, if I don't have a specific god in mind or want to gamble a bit, I will use the coin purse in one of the first two zones, and try to buy expensive stuff at the last shop. After the second zone it's all ||acorn||, all the time, for me
deflect takes priority over block and dodge afaik
no wait it was dodge>deflect>block i think
It used to be dodge > block, that was changed though
Because of some weird/annoying interactions
You can't have block and deflect at the same time except for very limited circumstances, so wouldn't worry about that
i was fighting the final boss with shield and was blocking his projectile ||skull|| but i dodged it so instead of deleting the projectile it went past me dropped on the floor and later did the aoe explosion
Huh...that was recently?
yesterday
Wack. I guess they didn't change it for all interactions. The main one was against any laser attacks, like brimstones—holding block against that if you had dodge, the dodge would constantly pop up
Whew I defeated ||Alecto|| but barely. Her attacks are so fast
I find ||Tisiphone|| the nastiest but yea ||Alecto|| is hard the first few times
i don't know about you but ||tisiphone|| is wayyy easier than ||alecto||
Idk for me ||Alecto|| is a breeze compared to ||Tisiphone||
Do you guys think Heightened Sec is worth it for the 1 heat?
No. It makes traps in elysium deal way more damage than it is worth
Same
I would prohably not take it for 2
Also
Its not 400% dmg total
Its added after the base 100%
So you take 5 times the dmg
Heightened Security also affects the ||skulls and vases in the Hades boss fight||, which cost me a run :(
||The pots in the final boss fight deal 30 normally. With this, they deal 150. No way that's worth less than 3 heat||
Lava also starts scaling at 5 and goes up faster
||Heightened Security is like the nastiest thing to have, there is a reason high heat runs avoid it||
Just ||godmode it||
So.... what's the gentlest option for || 1 heat ||? Asking for a friend
Prohably the timer one if you are fast enogh?
the one with || a blue shield or price hike ||
||like you can just attack with any weapon and clear Tartarus in 9 min||
Just pick anything except heightened security, nothing is too hard at the first level
||damage control is also good on fast attack weapons, it basically does nothing||
Should I even try Extreme Measures
it makes me wish i paid more attention in school during history lessons
Sure, it is really not that bad
You have to get used to it, but nothing that hard really
EM1 and 2 are basically nothing
I'm tempted to use EM just to spice up some boss fights
if you can clear them normally you can clear them on EM
I dont think I can beat final boss reliably
maybe a certain combination of Tis that might be tough on EM1
but any EM2 Hydra is a pushover just like normal
EM3 makes ||asterius a lot harder and thesius irrelevant for half the fight||
||Thesius so annoying omfg can I punch this guy in the gut||
That dork is already irrelevant
||I tried EM4 its effing hell||
Em4 is hard but the fight is such a rush that it is worth it imo
Just don't pick anything else with it
well this is beyond the topic of this channel
My current"hard mode" struggle is ||clearing a run with Stubborn Defiance||, for the prophecy. It's the last one I need, and it's so hard for me because I am bad a the last fight
@muted latch yeah, fair honestly
You can just take skellies keepsake for another life(it does not regenerate but it might save you for the final boss fight)
Acorn is prohably more life though
or keepsake Athena at styx and gamble for an extra
guys
what are those things that are a round stone with 3 different colored dots around them and exclamation mark
Ugh, I got ||Tisiphone|| now, she obliterated me. I am not used to the spear either
ohhh
As a room option? NPC room , usually good
okay ty
needs them for story as well
usually...
so early on always take them
Not an always, but usually. And yeah, they're part of the story
What's in the room is the same every time
You just don't always need it
for a certain region yes
Should I tag them for spoiler?
Early on though, yeah definitely take them
not necessarily
anything before final boss is game
final boss and past that are spoilers
Sisyphus in Tartarus, Eurydice in Asphodel. They have nice boons and you need them for story
Until you know when you don't need them, I would always take the rooms. There is no negative outcome, so the only reason not to take them is if there is an alternative room that you know is better
whats should i pick from eurydice (i found another npc room)
i also dont have a build
to be honest im only asking because i dont actually know what the things do
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/653429105890426920/793133658785447986/unknown.png Which of these weapons should I unlock?
You don't seem to be going for a duo boon right after that room, so 3 is out. Where does most of your damage come from? If it is from one or two sources and you have no more than 2 boons other than that I would take 1 ofherwise pick the second one
most of my damage comes from shield charge attack
Definitely the shield
Ty
I have a cast boon from athena which makes me do a lot of damage and i have a bull rush that deals 500% damage (shield) so my main source of damage is bull rush
Well I found out two new things on my last couple of runs
- Cluster Bomb & Rocket on Rail is stupid powerful
- Turns out you can make ||Charon|| really, really mad
No, I'm doing worse now...
hey guys for my tital blood can i only upgrade my rail ?
Can't get past the furies anymore
I'm just upset because I feel like I'm plateauing
I felt like that the first few runs when ||the bosses of the first two regions|| started to change as well
Just got to suck it up and learn them and get the repetition in, practice makes perfect
@next ore no you can upgrade all of them. You probably just need to go equip the other weapon and the press E to reveal
Altho they may unlock one at a time, I don’t remember. But I think it was all at onc
unlock every weapon first, skelly(?) should tell you about them after that
is there a way to reset the way you used your titan blood?
There isn't sadly
got the chain attack with the spear special and posiedon knockback on it aswell
but it was pretty early ig mostly pots and the pink gem things
Kill all the weakest ones and let him take care of the stronger ones if he’s already targeted them
yeah i did that
And use weapons that can deal a lot of damage quickly
I've got to pay more attention to what he's targeting then
The ones he’s targeting have an indicator over them
Sometimes you can kill them before he does but if it’s an enemy with a lot of health don’t waste your time
Noted! My best so far is a 14 kill advantage and it hurt my soul
since you cant post images can you post links or is that not allowed
you can post links
Nice
I didn't know he could show up in Tartarus.
he can, but he only does when you lost quite a bit of health there as far as i know 👀 you good bud?
think i died to ||the 3rd fury sister|| that run
;-;
shes scary
deflect is your best friend with that fight
idk how to tell when she does anything
or just knowing when to attack
oh btw if youre the one who told me about how to do meg its working







