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yeah
not for aphro
aphro is useful at not max though
not really
Arty u get a whole 100 dmg
it doesnt clear rooms or give free enemies
- crit
300 dmg at common for one normal enemy = free
and also getting arty on call is something you'd rather have for most weapons
aphro feels best on special/attack
por que no los dos
so getting it on call instead is a waste
im fine with either
because you dont have it guaranteed that it will be available again later
thats personal preference
i am talking about generic builds
im fine with both aphro/arty on attack
|| lmaoo i got aspect of chiron lvl 3 and it just deletes so far in tartarus||
chiron is awesome
I need to put an actual build together for it next time I run with it, completely winged it and it still melted lots of stuff
Working on filling out the ||list of minor prophecies|| is too fun for me
hehe
artemis and dio with chiron are the stronmgest I think. YOu can do a lot of random stuff at low heat though, don't be afraid to experiment
like demeter with artic blast ares with dire misfortune
the bow really encourages using Priviledged Status from the mirror
Yeah I was thinking maybe Aphro on attack w/ Dio on special or something
zeus is worse than it sounds because you only get like 3 bolts per special instead of one per arrow, but it is still good enough damage to clear the game if you go into zeus
aphro attack and either arty/dio on special is good
that's a great build, it gets to silly damage terretory if you can also get the ares/dio duo boon
either is really good but aphro si slightly more damaghe
I'll have to look up the duo boons to refresh my memory, my game knowledge is still pretty poor
it is recommended to start with aphrodite in tartarus
then grab whichever shows up for special
my apporach sop far has always been to pick my special and get aphro later
aphro is a lot more consistent. i can see ares attack being more favorable with (endgame spoiler) || dc || on
Is aphro on attack not bad for stuff like ||fists|| where you can apply status much faster
i used to do that too but the thing is
in tartarus, you can kill most things with a single powershot.
your attack matters more than your special
and aphro attack bonus is a lot
we're talking abt chiron, right?
we are talking specifically about chiron, but aphro attack is never really bad because the damage multiplier is huge
thats a very powerful build, it also allows you for their duo that makes dio even MORE powerful, with ||demeter|| on call or dash you will do an insane amount of damage with all that
Gotcha. What are you guys running mirror wise then in order to get these builds to come together?
bottom four green (legacy/pride depends on build), everything else purple for me
ah, and dark regen. though i know some prefer cthonic more
yeah pretty much that
Dark Regen is so good, although when I play around ||heat|| I'll probably swap to the other one
the 4th last should be red for aphro-dio tho o.o
in general
thats literally priviledged status o.o
yeah
well, you take ps if you're sure you'll go with a build that procs it
generally too, not getting any status curse boons is highly unlikely
but i take aphro start so
yeah aphro attack is so nice
i'm not guaranteed to build into dio when i go chiron
Is there a guide for beginners what to level mirror of night?
haelian has one
let me find it
there you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeX_O18y_rE
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@woven eagle thank you somuch!
Alright yeah bottom 3 green is what I'm running with now (still need more darkness to get them filled out though)
yeah, persuasion especially is expensive
i still have stuff to max...
Just got Legacy maxed so need to save my pennies for that for sure
i feel like i spend more time talking about the game than playing it lol
I feel that. It's wormed it's way into my brain to the point where I'm not playing it I'm thinking about HOW to play it
saaaame
i am trying to get ||father dearest|| down in less than a minute rn but thats all that i'm doing ingame 😂
Oof I can't even comprehend having enough damage to get that done haha!
the last two times i got him down in 1,5mins
just these flipping ||DARKNESS|| calls
Artemis, what is the aim when starting with Zeus as you mentioned yesterday?
you just have to use some tier 1 build
specifically for rail: zeus attack
else his cast
the cast just gives you a free tart
You're closing in then! You'll get it eventually
i hope i will
Ahh yeah I thought so, tried it earlier on a failed fists run and the cast mopped the first half of Tartarus
damage isnt even an issue, him just saying "f this, i'm out"
Yup my second clear earlier I feel like he disappeared after almost every attack he did
cast does i think 80-90 damage on epic so it gets even the louts done in 2-3 hits
if you get jolted on that you wont even have to fight anybody
just wait for them to destroy themselves hehehehe
I did get jolted later on in the run but played so poorly I died in Elysium
Might have to swap to the increased epic talent for starting Zeus then
God's legacy is only recommended if you really NEED a duo or legendary desperately
cause else your boon pool will be thinned out towards the end of a stage that getting one anyways has a really big chane
Riiiight okay, I might have to respec and move my darkness around then
So with that in mind, is it worth focusing on 2-3 gods and just snagging as much from them as possible in order to improve the odds of Duos/Legendaries?
depends on what you want to focus on?
like if you want to try a ares cast run you really need to focus on him and artemis
but else really get every main boon place filled - even if you dont like the dashes or cast
cause thats already 5 boons deleted from every boon pool, tier 1 arent that important and tier 2 are very few; consumeable even less; so getting stuck with not getting a duo at all is very unlikely?
What do you mean by deleted? As in if I fill an attack boon from Aphro, I won't get one offered by Zeus for example?
it can happen, but it's very rare
if you have attack filled by a deity, it's very unlikely that you will see another attack boon
Cool, sounds like common sense now that you mention it - my bad
sorry yeah, these main spots can only be refilled with trade boons which are pretty rare
Okay so I'm definitely going to respec my mirror then haha
hey! i have a quick question
<.<
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Sorry was my way of saying I'm here to answer if I can
oh ; o ; sorry i thought i was already being annoying
Nuo nuo :}
whadup :)
but i just downloaded this game last night and im in the dungeons? if thats what you call it?
and so i pressed the - button on my switch
If the area is green and dungeon-like, it's Tartarus
and i see these icons from what ive earned for weapon skills/damage stuff... and if i select them with my A button, a gold coin or something attaches to it?
im not sure if im describing this right but im not sure what it does...
like....so i got the heartbreaker flourish yeah? if i select it with A, it starts glowing arouns the edges?
i cant attach a photo to show....
I see what you mean, but that doesn't do anything major
whats it for?
also, if i go thru a dungeon and i get another thing to boost my special move, are they stacked? cause i have heartbreaker flourish and super nova, do the stats stack?
or is it one or the other
they stack
sweet!
all boons are active at the same time unless they need something to happen (like a dio boon needs you to have less than 50% health but then it will glow to the side of your main attack boons)
and i think i read it online but i wanted to make sure; the stuff u buy at the mirror in your bedroom are permanate right? like, they wont go away if i die in a dungeon?
Yup they're permanent
Yeah that's permanent spend away
You can reset it if you want though
ok ok i just wanted to make sure
sorry all the names for stuff is new to me i had to google what boon meant xD;;
whats the blue/gold laurel mean...?
when you can select a room you see the reward above the door in these little balls with "laurels"
When you clear a room, and you're choosing what rooms to enter next, the room will be decorated with a gold or blue laurel
You've just blown my mind. Had no idea the skull symbols were different for hard encounters/mini bosses
you're welcome :D
Might actually be able to avoid the hell that is ||the witches encounter in Asphodel||
ahh okok!! thank you 💕
I have got to reread berserk
most forget to notice it i only know it because i like speedrunning.......
Don't worry, as you play more the names become more familiar
it's a mini boss room
i appreciate the help 💕💕💕
so you have a 1/3 chance of getting it
witches or ||the barge or death|| or ||the megagorgon||
I'm starting on Attack on Titan (getting some volumes for Christmas) but once I'm done I'm planning a re-read. Chapter 362 got me all kinds of hype
nice
I got to like 250ish? in October 2018 so I think it's about time I tried again
It's been so long since I got ||the barge|| I genuinely miss it the ||witches|| are run killers for me
What was it that got you to stop reading initially, if you don't mind me asking?
just got bored iirc
for witches you just gotta bum rush them
I get that, the pacing compared to the early arcs can be a little on the slower side
Oh I bum rush them, I just take ungodly amounts of collateral damage for doing so
i hate getting the barge with constant ||MM|| on 
also if you get athena on anything the witches are toast
athena on dash: go to the walled in corner and dash from side to side
athena on attack: attack the bubbles
My athena RNG has been pretty poor tbh, I'm thinking her keepsake might be an auto-pick pre-Asphodel for me
I love the Barge but when you don't get lucky with boons and MM is on.... 
That, or Exploding Launcher with Athena boon for Adamant Rail. Literally all projectiles get deflected.
yeah on rail and fists if you have athena attack, dash is not mandatory
Cluster Bomb with Exploding Launcher is fun as well.
Combine that with Posideon, you can blow enemies back with sheer power.
yeet stick
I think Poseidon is my least common god, feel like I see him once every 7-10 runs at most
Dude just avoids me
i hate that crystal so much 
Crystal ain't bad, just gotta kill it first.
i still hate it
even if it aint bad
my favorite mini boss is honestly the butterfly ball
just pop
||crystal on high heat are very annoying||
not so much for barge but annoying AF in Elysium
i can get the mini ones in less than 2 hits o-o
the barge tho makes me angry
||chirons special arrows are breaking; support fire is quaking||
do i have to kill bosses multiple times or just once?
Gotta kill 'em all in one run to be counted as a completed escape
If you die at second boss, restart at beginning and take on boss 1 again to go to next region
damn that seems impossible
trust me it's easier than you think
you can really plan ahead since the bosses never change in a huge way
The underworld is full of surprises though, but you got this! 👍
every death you learn something new along, like if you need more damage boons or athena for her DD boons etc
i keep seeing the word "boons" in some upgrades but i dont know what they are lol
They're the powerups the Gods give ya
Like Athena gives deflect + damage boost on that specific attack
can check your 'boon' menu to see the list... b on PC not sure what it is on Switch
oh
During a run of course
@fluid crown might this help?
i dont want to spam the channels with that picture
oh yeah where do i give the nectar?
i think i got one from my last run and i needed to give it
you can give it to any character in the house of hades, gods and stage npcs
i gave one to skelly
:o
you should have his keepsake now in that keepsake holder in the courtyard, to the left of the sword
a lucky tooth
i can equip that permanently?
so i should be able to revive 2 times now xd
yes
you can also buy a upgrade from the house contractor to get the keepsake holder between every stage to use different keepsakes on the run
a portal now appeared in the first room and i lose health to descend
It's a new person to talk to and get stuff from, your call to go in or not here on out
Sometimes chaos is good, sometimes not
a question mark guy that gives you sth for a return xd
erm if i buy +30hp from charon does it up my max hp if im full?
if it's the heart icon it does but if it's the fries it just heals u
btw, Chaos uses they/them pronouns 
lol
i killed meg way easier the 2nd time around
maybe cuz of zeus' upgrades they are op xD
The armored bomb tossers are the bane of my existence :(
Just got 3x Legendary in one run to finish out that prophecy haha
Haven’t mastered the stupid Lyre, but have done literally everything else now?
Oh snap
It changed when I played the thing.
Finally.
takes like 200 times or something lol
You also need to talk to Orpheus some to hone your lyre skills
how often do u find keepshakes after getting the upgrade?
you get keepsakes from most via gifting them one nectar
Every room between areas
You buy that from the house contractor
how can i get more titan blood? i have cleared tartarus with every weapon
I haven't cleared the game yet
Go do that then
I've only reached up to ||Theseus||
Alright
yall is there a big difference between hell mode and normal?
Yes. You need to have at least 5 heat right off the bat, and theres a special punishment that is only in hell mode
|| Certain pacts are mandatory ||
Oh yeah, that too
i started with hell mode and it doesnt look too difficult tbh
all in all it's not very different from playing with ||heat|| in normal mode, aside from the hell mode exclusive ||punishment||
||i can see how the fact that you can't take off some pacts would be annoying tho as you push higher heat... especially CP1 and maybe JS1||
honestly ||js|| is way easier and better for low than ||cp||
For sure
yeah agreed
||js doesnt affect boss fights while cp does, which is the biggest thing for me||
Finally got my first proper 'build' during a run and it was glorius
I've won 3 out of my last 4 runs - is it normal to get a little flurry like this once you get your first?
yes
Blade rifts are kind of OP
My screen was basically just full of chainsaws while I dodged around and fired off casts - stupid fun
Do hammer boons count for the “boon-less final boss kill”
I don't think so
So i went to the last boss with the spear and i didnt unlock the secret spear aspect. Help?
check pinned messages for help with hidden aspects
er in spoilers
should be the second pin there
is there a quick way to end a run?
I lost a death defiance to the first boss and knowing the third area I know I'm going to get my butt handed to.
Esc and Give Up, but you should essentially never use it. Losing a DD early doesn’t mean anything
I wish, I'm gonna need at least 5 DDs to even beat the boss
Just push forward and see what you can get. Keys, darkness, nectar are always useful and will push your progress forward even if you get wiped out
All practice is good practice in this game, or at least that's what I've found so far
You can hit give up, which will not give you a new run but reset you back to the start of your current one.
What do people tend to go for ||when adding heat to the run||? I'm planning to add it steadily (just escaped ||with 1 heat) and while the increased shop costs weren't too bad I'd rather keep them at base level||
||Extreme measures 1/2 aren’t too bad and the timed run.||
||also the thing where mobs have a 1 or 2 hit shield||
Also ur supposed to spoil ||Heat|| here
Damn you already escaped?
@leaden whale please spoiler tag that, anything past the first clear is a spoiler in this channel
Sorry about that should be fixed now!
Yep, a few times now
It's really hard to say but try them all out. Some options are not the easiest, but you can get used to them as future proofing practice if this makes sense. Those are ||Forced Overtime, Tight Deadline, Benefit Package, Extreme Measure||. (Again, those are not the easiest to use by any means, just that getting used to them make ||heat climbing|| generally easier in the future).
^agree, those are difficult but will become necessary if you continue so getting used to them is good
Alright I can work with that going forward! I'm planning on just ||increasing heat by 1 each time I run with a weapon I've cleared with|| is that the right approach to take to stop it from being overwhelming?
yeah sure, I wouldn't recommend taking all of the above in at once anyhow.
||if you have somewhat decent game knowledge, the first timer one is free, if you have hell mode the one you get from there is pretty free, enhanced measures 1 and 2 aren't really much harder than normal, the 20% extra damage is managable and middle management is nothing too bad most of the time(you have to learn a few new moves though)||
I think ||Tight Deadline or Extreme Measure|| is a fun start
Go fast, hit hard, win games.
||Tight Deadline|| definitely worries me, not sure I'm quite swift enough for that just yet
You can start with just one level. 36 minute should be enough if you consciously go fast.
Just try it, if you have time left over after a region it carries over
I never had an issue with if
Yeah you're right, I've got nothing to lose really
@leaden whale honestly i think early on you can ||move up by multiple heat at a time. its all up to how you feel really so test out some different heats and see how you do if you want to keep climbing||
You have to try a bit with the second level, but it is still very managable
My fastest time is 39 minutes so I think I could maybe make it work
if you keep time in mind as you play, 36 minutes is absolutely doable
Will I not be ||missing out on titan blood etc by skipping heat levels||?
oh
ur right, my bad
i mean you can always go back and get those but yeah prob best to ||do it one by one then, i forgot lol||
No worries haha! Just wanted to check in case I was misunderstanding something
No, you always get the reward for 1 over your highest assuming you do at least that much heat
So if your next one is 8 heat and you do 10 you still get the reward for 8
yeah, but still if you ||want to get all the rewards you'll have to do it 20 times, so might as well move it one by one to get gradually used to it||
I think its really stupid that they lock progression of one weapon behind that of others. I don't want to play with the stupid shield. I want to play with the bow
the shield does no damage at all
nibbling his HP down
you dont need to, do you?
i never played with the shield until very recently lmao
he just needs 1-2 attacks to kill me
What are you talking about, you don't have to use the shield
Can you elaborate? I don't think they lock progression?
how do you unlock more titan blood?
Yeah
also ||u can exchange ambrosia for blood||
Beat the game once, then you will have an option to "farm" for blood.
||Increase heat||
i ahve to use other weapons to unlock titan blood so i can upgrade the one weapon i actually want to play with
You can use any weapon for that.
i actually still havent gotten all the bounties for shield and rail
and ive had maxed weapons for a long time
Is it me or does the Shield take forever to do damage
yup

Shield and Exagryph are the two weapons I just don't vibe with at all
its slower than a lot of things
the only good thing with zag shield is pulverizing blow at lv 5
shield and rail are things i never played with initially but ive gotten to like them more recently
well this is new player channel, vanilla shield without upgrade/good boons = sleep fest.
yep
Sword & Bow are my babies
The first time I won with shield I used it mostly like the fists by just spamming attack
Spear is also crazy fun but I've not got to run with it an awful lot
Worked alright
Bow gang unite
I legit gave up half way through with my shield on a new hell mode run because 40+ timer xD
sord gang roll up
||Aspect of Nemesis|| is so fun. I really like the loop you get into while attacking
And I've just realised that's probably why I like ||Chiron|| for the bow so much...
bam boom bop
badabapboom
pow
||Chiron bow is the best bow, all users of inferior aspects arr heretics and need to be purged||
||rama is best i will die on this hill||
More workers for the gulag
I still need to learn how to use it. It's probably really good with Dio or ||Demeter|| just due to the attack speed
The rail?
Yeah! We're both talking about the gun right?
Yeah, I was using all my keys for it so I think I'm really underpowered in terms of reflections
Im only up to the cast upgrade one.
Don't worry about that, I focused on unlocking all the weapons first too. The keys will start to stack up over time again
You can also trade for them with the wretched broker. 10 jewels for 1 key but don't quote me on that I might be wrong
Side note: your name/avatar is further convincing me I need to do another pokemon nuzlocke soon
What's a nuzlocke?
a run through of a pokemon game with certain rules
- you have to catch the first pokemon you see in a new area (route or wherever wild pkmn are), 2) if a pokemon faints, you can not use it for the rest of the game
i believe those are the 2 main ones
Wow, that sounds insanely difficult
yea thats the main 2 rules
its not that bad for most base pkmn games since they're relatively simple
its when you start getting into romhack nuzlockes that things get rough
Nuzlocke makes Pokemon a roguelite.
you should check out pokemonchallenges tbh he does them with some hardcore rules which is cool
I also add:
- Set Battle Mode
- No Items in Battle
- No Over-leveling the next Gym Leader
Yessss he's my guy
- No Over-leveling the next Gym Leader
Haven't heard of this one.
i was gonna say lol those rules look very similar to how he plays it lmao
Found his channel a month or so ago and instantly loved the rule set
Please take non-hades video game talk to #video-games 
sorry
How do you know the level of the Gym leader if you do a blind nuzlocke?
My bad I'll move now
Before I get back to more runs I wanted to ask if Aires is rare?
Cause I haven't gotten him in like 8 runs
none of the gods have different rarities to my knowledge, if you really want to play ares i'd suggest using his keepsake
When i have those bottles i can gift to certain people,is it worth it to give it to just one or all people should receive one
I have given like 3 to Aphrodite and all it seems i got was dialogue,maybe slightly better boons?
focus on giving them to different people first
maxing out hearts is a lategame thing
you dont really get anything from giving the gods more nectar after the first one
I don’t think nectar affects boon rarity, sadly
it does not
Only their keepsake, the mirror, and possible chaos boons do that
and don’t underestimate the value of Olympian keepsakes
Get all the items and then work on them individually is the plan (I assume)
Being able to shape your build early in your run is very beneficial
Is that for example the Eternal Rose from Aphrodite which makes your first boon hers?
Yep, keepsakes like those
It also means that even after the guaranteed boon, any boons that you get from them have a higher chance to be rare
I see
got the game yesterday
It will all become second nature over time, I'm only just getting to grips with a lot of systems even after successful attempts
Hey, I am starting the game out ||(barely got the minotaur to half hp)|| and in other games I LOVE archers classes, but the bow here just feels... bad (2 seconds of delay to deal 70 damage, without the protection of multiple hits and barely any extra range), is there any playstyle/boon/gift to get it to be good?
if you charge your attack very soon after dashing it charges up much faster
usually you want boons like aphrodite or artemis on your attack, they work very well
personally i love the bow, i think once u get used to the charge time its very nice to be able to play at a range
pretty much exclusively use dash strikes
nice
it’s a hard boss, congrats
thank you
Congrats! Super pleased for you
third boss is a pain
he blocked my aphrodite call
and called me a cheater
also once you get the correct path there's a fountain to heal you
I hate this game
its a very high chance to get the sack after the 2nd set of chambers
Approximately 1 in 3? Lol
please dont evade the swear filter 0:
how do I get the life steal bonus again?
My bad.
This game is amazing. To make the most progress I want to stack dark elixir right?
Early on you want darkness and keys
its one of the hammer upgrades for the sword @nocturne meadow its not considered very good however as you have really low health with it
@nocturne meadow or maybe you’re talking about the fist hammer? It’s also random
true
What's the best weapon to use? I've been using the aegis shield and keep dying at the end of elysium
Best weapon is all personal preference
The shield is very newbie friendly because it can block tho
the rail is good i like ot
it
also malphon is good too imo
aegis shield i don't like because the damage feels piss poor to me idk
shield can be a bit slow yeah
The ||rail||is easily the worst 😛
Is the guantlet worth getting early?
rail is pretty good @errant bramble
eris aspect
+75% bonus damage
stacked with zeus chain lightning
🔥
plus if you have the rockets daedulus hammer you can stay up close and still do good af damage
Yeah I hate it. I’m aware it’s good hah
pog i beat the final boss for real this time 😄
congrats!
Great dude
Just did the same an hour ago
i had two death defiances, now i have three
ill probably get up to the area after ||elysium|| now
@fickle rivet do what you want. You’ll get more currency.
I made a cozy Christmas wallpaper on steam from yesterday's video on the official channel
This is my first work, so i'll be glad if you support me 
Warm atmosphere to you:
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so I completed my first run
I had the aspect of Hestia, Triple Bomb, Frost Flourish, and Stubborn roots.
congrats!
it you like to go ungga bungga, fists with zeus is very fun
This might sound rlly dumb and probably is but for the hidden bow aspect (||the aspect of Rama||), can Artemis tell you the phrase on your first boon / first time you see her? Or do I have to grind out entire runs
is there any quick way to check who i gave gifts to?
As in ||nectar||? You can check the codex and it will show hearts, red ones mean you have and if they have a key hole it means they gave you a keepsake
I think you need at least 2 runs for aspect stuff
Only ||one||
||Charon, and you fight him by borrowing obols||
Actually, scratch that it's actually three
They're the first and final bosses respectively
Yeah sorry i was not clear lol
You need to get really close to some NPCs first for that
For me it was 6 nectar and 1 ambrosia for skelly to get his ||companion|| (he is the only one I’ve done thus far)
So I’d say it’s that much for all of them
Hmm so who would you say are the strongest companions?
I really like ||Meg's and Achille's||
||Megs|| is the strongest / most used by the community
Yeah, my fastest runs are with ||Meg||
Yeah but I can’t rlly talk as I don’t have it lmao
I tried using the others, but I didn't like them as much
So I recommend going ||megs || first and then go after the rest in any order you like
I think i also read you can have duo companions like ||Achilles and Patroclus||?
Her requirements are also one of the easiest, you just need to ||talk to her a bit||
codex
niiice. almost there!
Finally made it to Elysium for the first time 
Congrats!
what casts are usually considered really good?
good on its own: zeus, artemis, poseidon, athena
build/support centric: aphrodite, demeter, dionysus, ares
i see, thanks
please spoiler tag the final boss name
and a usual redacted fight with proper build takes about 2-3 min, without ||EM4|| it's not tough
I meant altogether, like getting to that fight as well
You can spoiler tag a word or sentence by putting || on either side of the word - strike-through isn't the same
Or if you highlight the text, it should pop up with a context menu that has spoiler tag as an option
total length differs
my clear runs varies between 18 to 42 minutes
expect your first clears to take 25-30min
if not longer
once you get decent upgrades and have a good build 20-25 min is usually the ballpark
Cool thanks!
Keep in mind that that is in-game time, not real time 
yeah real time is going to be longer
if you need to pause to think, or read the dialogue
lmaoo what? I didn't know there was in game time
(read them they are fantastic)
go to options, there is a setting that enables in game timer
I always read the dialogue, very well written. And I'll definitely turn that on
I think when I first did a complete run it usually ran me about 45 minutes to an hour real time, or about 30-45 minutes on the in-game timer
yeah my first couple runs are usually in the 30 min range IGT
real time is about 5 min longer
All that said, your own experience may differ - try not to get caught up on comparing yourself to what others have done 
How do I replenish my god gauges?
You generate god gauge by taking or dealing damage in encounters, and it expires at the end of each encounter
oh damn okay, thanks!
I just got the game yesterday. Man this is fun but i can't manage to get past the bull guy (forgot his name)
this is hard
any tips?
for that boss combat in general, hide behind pillars, get used to the bull's pattern and focus on him
but it's usually something you beat after a decent amount of upgrades
most notably more HP and additional death defiance
kiting him into walls is sometimes more reliable than into pillars since he can turn quickly
yep when he charges, go stand near a wall, dash away from the wall when he is close, he will slam into the wall
I try to get additional desth defiance but those are rare. the one I get from skelly's thing after I gave him nectar (forgot what its called) gives me 1 but I usually end up using it in boss 1. i feel like boss 1 is way harder than hydra
||it's a mirror upgrade||
||guys wut does diamonds even do-||
||later, check the house contractor||
||kk||
chaos shield block works
shield can block if u hold ur left mouse button or whatever button on ur controller
Hermes has a boon that has a chance to autododge stuff
and when u let go u dash at them with ur shield its a good way to get them next to the wall for extra dmg
athena's dash has extra deflect (no extra invinc frames), her call is also invincibility
athena's dash is OP just give her some nectar and put her owl pendadent on and every run u will either get her calling 1st or a hammer
zag's dash also has enormous amount of invincibility frame
true
it's basically the entire duration so you dont really need block or parry
how to get the ||pact of punishment ?||
||clear the game||
ah dammnit
Yoooo but imagine they add a god who gives a parry or a counter
revenge is a mechanic in the game
True true
athena also has a boon that increases deflect damage
just get athena's dash from the start its a great base
But imagine if revenge was tied to like when you use special or attack or dash or cast
I guess that's just reflect what I said
No not normally but I'd be cool
it entirely depends on the genre
i always thought hades has one
mainly I just like throwing out new God ideas
One time I got deflect on dash and a total of 8 dashes with a Hermes boon
That was fun
ayy thats epik
is there anything i should be aware of before spending titan blood on upgrading the weapons?
That some are better than others and picking a really good aspect first will make getting more blood easier
some aspects also rely more or less on their levels
Maybe not the right channel, but I'm conflicted on buying this game. I've heard it's amazing, but I've also heard there's like, no variation in rooms and only slight variations in bosses. Part of what I like most about binding of Issac is the randomization, so idk if I'd like this game
i just reseted my stats and i have 1490 darkness and im looking to get my 1st win with a lvl 3 chiron aspect bow any suggestions ?
the strongest part of Hades is the narrative and how it's woven into the repeatable gameplay
the lack of variation is grounded in its setting and narratives so if a truck ton of biome variation is what you value in roguelikes it's probably not
I think it's important to note that the rooms are like Isaac, they differ every run, there's just far less of them
I think that also you can enjoy the game for the gameplay
get the 2 death defiances @dry breach
Is it actually fun though. Looks kinda basic
it's up there as the best of the game of the year for a reason
oh ok
the gameplay is anything but basic
I've played on and off since it was first announced. It's fun
the gameplay system is not less deep than any great roguelike out there
you went into a server made for this game (and a few others), and asked if we find it fun
we wouldnt be here if it wasnt fun lmao
I was mostly asking like
What's fun about it
I thought it looked basic from what I saw
it's not basic in any means
||6|| weapons with completely different playstyle
Can you give an example of how it's not, besides small nuances in late stage combat or something
and then ||multiple weapon aspects|| to change them even further
that's ||24|| very different combat playstyles alone
then once you open up the systems you dont just have the weapons
how you tailor your run, how you add addtional modifiers to change the encounters
How do you tailor your run
some so massive they are basically entirely different
||a big system you can configure before a run||
plus yes, items that you can use to control your RNG
and then in the run you have your normal roguelike systems, random pick ups that change your attacks or defense in completely different ways
can i make it so i have multiple Keepsakes at the same time?
no you cant
guys i meg's other sister has ||replaced meg|| so can i use my normal weapons to defeat her or use my otheer weapons which i havent defeated meg with
so which one is the best?
the blood for weapon clear is based on encounters not the boss
so you will still only get darkness from them
did anyone replied to your question? I am also wondering how do we open the keepsakes at the bottom.
nope
to open those up you gotta get your relationship real high with certain NPCs
i got a lvl 3 chiron aspect bow but it doesnt seem much different from a lvl 2 one
oh
i got it
ty
The difference between individual levels of Chiron isn't that much, but the difference between level 1 and level 5 is significant, imo
oOF
yeah that's why chiron is much better if you save up to get it to lv 4+
ah shoot
so uhm what do you do when you enter the witches circle with no deflect no ranged attack and a slow curse?
be sad?
welp
lmao
It depends on the weapon but i usually go to the corner and wait for them to come to me
well i had the fists and made the mistake of taking poseidons attack boon. Lets say knockback and combos don't interact well
Beeline left or right, nuke one as ap
what is the first aspect i should choose for the fist?
Personally, Talos
demeter (if you can level it up to max asap) for burst dmg vs bosses
Talos works better at low level, demeter is stronger at max
Btw any tips against tisiphone and alecto? I can deal with meg quite consistently but i struggle against the other 2 with close range weaponry
The strat for meg, alecto and tisiphone are pretty much the same honessstly, the onyl thing I'd change for each of them is just dodging their unique attacks. Otherwise it's usually the same thing
So advice would be to understand each of their move sets first 
Alecto has the buzz-saw that she spawns while tisiphone makes you lose your maneuverability by decreasing the mount of space present.
I think Alecto is pretty straightforward, just dodge the projectiles and don't stand in the circles. For Tisiphone, keep in mind that unlike her sisters she dashes twice in a row. For all the sisters you should be avoiding their whip attacks, which are pretty telegraphed.
Patience is key.
I unlocked all || six weapons and got the option to upgrade them,is the titans blood easily accessible? Are all aspects viable? ||
@leaden whale ||It's not HARD to get more blood but it's not exactly quick either. Certain aspects are better than others, especially in certain circumstances, but it really comes down to preference in the end.||
Okay thank you
Some will say it's best to ||focus on upgrading one aspect rather than unlocking a bunch|| but I didn't follow this advice at all and I had a perfectly good time.
That being said, I do wish I'd leveled ||Achilles spear|| earlier. My favorite ||aspect|| now.
man this game is amazing
the rush one?
i regret spending so much blood on chaos for the shield
i shouldve focused on the fist first
I definitely wasted a lot.
oh well, i eventually have to clear with both of them anyway
It's funny because the ||aspects|| I leveled last, like ||Achilles, Zeus, Eris||, are all my favorites now. Heh.
Not ||Eris||, I meant ||Hestia||.
i immediately pumped all my blood into maxing zagreus aspect for the fists cause i'm a nut for tank builds.
what does dodge chance do again
chance to ignore damage
5
5 for 15% chance
oh ok
So far || fists|| are my favourite parred with || arrow when you attack that launches boon||
Different ||aspects|| require different amounts.
i initially didnt unlock the fists and the rail because i thought it wouldnt be as good as the shield since i thought blocking was broken
but being able to attack so fast with the fists and stagger enemies constantly is so fun
@dry breach In this chat I think they are, in discussion they aren't. Better safe than sorry tho
true
One of my favourites was the bow and special inflicts doom boon. Got it to epic and leveled it like hell.
Arrow spread dealt 10 damage and then the doom effect dealt 220 damage XD
should you priorities choosing daedulus hammer all the time?
im guessing you should
cause the upgrades are usually nutty
ngl ||lvl 3 chiron aspect the only dramatic change i notice is the arrows hit multiple opponents when u hold and release ur attack button/mouse||
Upgrades can be insane but lets say you already have a very strong upgrade. Maybe investing into boosting that with boons is better than upgrading another attack of the weapon
yeah i heard lvl 4+ is where it shines
Especially with the right hammer upgrades, like extra special shots or extra damage for consecutive hits.
||do you get new bounties each heat level?||
the lvl 3 ||chiron aspect|| is great just the upgrades dissapointing until u get 4 and up to max
Spoil that
Yes
But only if you completed the previous ||heat|| level
Many of the ||aspects|| don't feel satisfying to upgrade, tbh.
oh ok
also is there any way i can gurantee having athena in the earlier stages of the run
cause i cant live without divine dash
You could equip her keepsake 
oh yeah
consecutive hits resets on a new combo though so you only get a max of 0/5/10/15/20 extra damage on the 1./2./3./4./5. hit respectively so in total a full combo has 50 extra damage
It is good boon
Make sure not to get addicted to it though
Divine dash is amazing but splash dash is divine
though i kinda such at this game and i need skelly's keepsake for 1 extra death defiance
wut is ||heat || tho
i run dusas keepsake. The healing is insane
Its something that unlocks after defeating the final boss
dusas, huh 🤔
healing is super limited in the game and the droprate is actually pretty good
imo get athena's keepsake cross and u will meet her at the start of ur run and u have a good chance to get divine dash ||means when u dash thing deflect off u can be super useful in the meg fight when she does her fan attack}||
Deflect is great all around 
yup divine dash is just prob the best move athena can get u
i had the spear with special does deflect. Bone hydra was pretty much an afk fight
Nothing, literally nothing, feels better than deflecting a certain attack in the final biome.
stand outside its slam range and spamming special
The ||poison|| I assume?
also u should prob know like the general idea of every god's boons it helps alot for ex- are's boon help's in doing a ton of dps and a doom set would be good with him
@obsidian locust Indeed
True it does feel great deflecting that
how many biomes are there? never got past the final boss of the third
Sweet revenge
i have a habit of spamming dodge so i often dont deflect properly, specially boss attacks
You'll find out @kindred gazelle 🙂
yeah prob dont spoil ur self
so many things going on its hard to keep track lol
tbh the map sort of gives it away...
unless u have the codex u will know how many biomes but just dont know the names
I hope there are a LOT cause i heard the game doesn't have an endless mode and i love long runs in rougelikes
Even if there aren't a lot, hades does a great job at offering the player replayability
Yeah
yeah
isaac, slay the spire, 20XX, Risk of rain 2. Most of my time was spent in endless mode
I'm not even competitive but I feel the drive to beat my best time with each weapon.
game devs should learn from hades on how to make their game replayable
i mean i dunno much ||but i think the biomes get smaller the further u go bec the 1st one is pretty big , asphodell was short hydra was pretty epik and the other one i got thru a few chambers eventually got wiped||
game devs should learn from hades on how to make their game repayable.
Oh you mean like EA?
||being able to manipulate difficulty in your own preferences is clever||
ngl in hades i rlly wished we could go outside go to olympus and u know explore the overworld i thought that could be kool .>.
you can change difficulty?
Kind of
there's hell mode and god mode
oh that.
You'll find out 🙂
I don't think that's true except for the last biome
I slayed the || minotaur duo boss || will it take shorter to reach that boss again,it seems its really long to get back after death
oh kk nice
The number of chambers you receive can be really short or long, If you get fountain room ,shops and the npc then it feel really short. But if you get extremely tough enemies in each room, it ted to drag on
Is it just me or does the (act 3 spoiler) ||Minotaur|| have a metric ton of health?
@dry breach The first ||3|| biomes have the same number of chambers I believe.
He seems to have more health than Theseus
spoiler
Theseus is a spoiler?
Anything past the first victory are spoilers here
like i clapped the biome 2 boss relatively fast but ||minotaurs|| healthbar barely flinched
both
Elysium is just a vibe check in general
isnt elysium in greek mythology where hereos go when they die
Yep
welp makes sense
yes indeed 
It's like the heaven of hell
It's the Heaven of Greek Myth
also can someone explain to me how to avoid biome3 bosses ||minotaurs|| charge attack where he runs at you. Just dodge till he stops? or get him to slam into a wall? Attack him?
Use the pillars and walls to just stop him in his tracks
can anyone tell me.
stand near a wall, dodge opposite direction when he is close
who should i concentrate gifting to?
more consistent than pillars
Everyone 
everyone first for keepsakes
okie
then it's all up to you
They all deserve love and nectar
if you want to min max go Meg
she has something very useful late for you
i am new.
Okie. thank you dig
Meg the first boss in blue
okok i will start gifiting her then
thank you for your advice.
You will be swimming in nectar, don't worry.
nah you might not be able to gift the person you want after every run because they dont necessarily show up at home
so gift whoever you want to
you wont be lacking nectar
it's like the easiest resource to come by
You can just trade for it if you don't have any
Unless you're all about the aesthetics and spent all your gems.
Also, remember to pet the pup.
always pet the dog
Whichever you prefer
If you stay in the courtyard, you can spend the blood and test it on Skelly
Then quit out and load and you'll get the blood back
Just don't leave the courtyard.
Okie
I assume the same is true of PC
all weapons are good right?
Ummm
Or which one is easier to use
My favorite is bow
The only one I dislike is sword
But some people feel the opposite
So, to each their own.
Okay.
Anyway is there a guide for my mirror of night?
Boiling Blood or Abyssal Blood?
This is for the mirror of the night upgrade
I always use Boiling but I could be an idiot.
3x death defiance, thick skin, +1 dash, chthonic vitality, the rest is up to you
if you think it might be useful pick it
you can reset the mirror later at any time so experiment
OIkay.
Okay.
Does the Cast stacks?
Like if i throw 3 cast on the boss
Does it means I can get 3 times of the debuffs.
Like example i chose Boiling Blood.. 30% attack to foes on cast. Does it means 90% if i throw 3 of it on boss?
boiling blood does not stack, just one embed counts
Would be awesome if it did
Does Abyssal Bloood stacks then?
Or it doesnt too? hahaha
Dark Foresight or Olympian Favour ?
Doesn't
As digmouse said, it's a matter of taste. I take favour
I mean
Foresight
haha
im a indecisive person.
so asking the pros like you guys will be easier
xD
If you're basing your build around one specific boon, the poms are important
I'm pretty sure there's a mirror guide on YouTube by Haelian
But if you're taking multiple boons, then you might prefer the rarity boost.
If you’re aware of your indecisiveness, might I suggest that a video game is a good place to practice making decisions given that they don’t matter? Life advice from discord
One of the things that makes Hades great is that there are very few wrong decisions.
(Though there are a few)
*Slight addendum to Golden Touch: I've seen some interesting comments around taking this over Deep Pockets so that you can save enough gold in a run to afford the meta currency in the Styx shop which is actually an amazing idea when you're still hard up on Titan's Blood and Diamonds!
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should i priorities upgrading god's pride or fated authority?
God's pride takes way less to max
I prefer Fated Persuasion over Authority tho
If you use authority, be sure to pay attention to the door type.
I’ve made 8 run attempts and only gotten to asphodel once, is that really bad?
No
Yea but who wants to do easy mode lmao
Is shield the best?
“All weapons are viable.”
ironically sword is probably one of the harder ones
It can be really strong
Thx for the help
Are you dying to the boss or to the enemies?
Yes
Haha
Make sure you're working on your mirror
I just lose health 😢
Once you get a few revives you'll be set
I have 1 death defiance so far and some other useless stuff
Do you have second dash?
USE IT
Oh ok
the extra dash is basically your get out of jail free card
Yea that makes sense
And Athena's Divine Dash is very helpful
If you’re dying to lava the second dash is a game changer
and if you get something like Passion/Tidal Dash your Dash suddenly becomes another damage component
Btw I have 42 darkness so far should I save it for second death defiance
also more mobility in an action game with good i-frames
No
So dash is very good
Do you have regen?
Ok
how much Darkness was 2nd DD again?
I just used my 40 to max out regen
Then go ahead and save for death defiance
Because they're olden time-y
Haha yea
Everyone had a British accent prior to 1776.
Possibly bc the voice actors were...British?
@errant bramble if they’re voice actors they can easily play another accent
No that couldn’t be it
but SGG is an American company
it's more of a performance thing
Maybe they like it
not entirely sure which country Darren is from though
i like it 🙂
me too
I was just thinking and I remember malphon being really simple and easy at first
whats malphon
fists
it really depends on you tho
depends on your playstyle
haven't unlocked that yet
The best weapon is the one you like
Yep
You need bow spear and shield to unlock it
if you dislike very close playstyle fists isnt for you
oh I don't have spear yet
Then us bow
if you like going near their faces, Fists are good. Safety and a damn good rush go Shield
each weapon has its upsides and downsides



