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subtle granite
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i never had a single time where it did less than a stage of damage

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thats another point for artemis

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you can pom its damage

leaden whale
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yeah

subtle granite
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not for aphro

leaden whale
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aphro is useful at not max though

subtle granite
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not really

leaden whale
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Arty u get a whole 100 dmg

subtle granite
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it doesnt clear rooms or give free enemies

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  • crit
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300 dmg at common for one normal enemy = free

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and also getting arty on call is something you'd rather have for most weapons

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aphro feels best on special/attack

leaden whale
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por que no los dos

subtle granite
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so getting it on call instead is a waste

leaden whale
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im fine with either

subtle granite
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because you dont have it guaranteed that it will be available again later

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thats personal preference

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i am talking about generic builds

leaden whale
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im fine with both aphro/arty on attack

peak vale
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|| lmaoo i got aspect of chiron lvl 3 and it just deletes so far in tartarus||

woven eagle
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chiron is awesome

native knoll
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chiron is broken

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my fav weapon by a mile

subtle granite
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it's not broken

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but it is a fanfavorite :D

leaden whale
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I need to put an actual build together for it next time I run with it, completely winged it and it still melted lots of stuff

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Working on filling out the ||list of minor prophecies|| is too fun for me

subtle granite
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hehe

woven eagle
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like demeter with artic blast ares with dire misfortune

subtle granite
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the bow really encourages using Priviledged Status from the mirror

leaden whale
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Yeah I was thinking maybe Aphro on attack w/ Dio on special or something

woven eagle
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zeus is worse than it sounds because you only get like 3 bolts per special instead of one per arrow, but it is still good enough damage to clear the game if you go into zeus

leaden whale
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aphro attack and either arty/dio on special is good

woven eagle
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either is really good but aphro si slightly more damaghe

leaden whale
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I'll have to look up the duo boons to refresh my memory, my game knowledge is still pretty poor

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it is recommended to start with aphrodite in tartarus

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then grab whichever shows up for special

woven eagle
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my apporach sop far has always been to pick my special and get aphro later

leaden whale
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aphro is a lot more consistent. i can see ares attack being more favorable with (endgame spoiler) || dc || on

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Is aphro on attack not bad for stuff like ||fists|| where you can apply status much faster

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i used to do that too but the thing is

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in tartarus, you can kill most things with a single powershot.

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your attack matters more than your special

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and aphro attack bonus is a lot

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we're talking abt chiron, right?

woven eagle
subtle granite
leaden whale
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Gotcha. What are you guys running mirror wise then in order to get these builds to come together?

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bottom four green (legacy/pride depends on build), everything else purple for me

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ah, and dark regen. though i know some prefer cthonic more

woven eagle
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yeah pretty much that

leaden whale
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Dark Regen is so good, although when I play around ||heat|| I'll probably swap to the other one

subtle granite
leaden whale
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in general

subtle granite
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thats literally priviledged status o.o

woven eagle
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yeah

leaden whale
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well, you take ps if you're sure you'll go with a build that procs it

subtle granite
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generally too, not getting any status curse boons is highly unlikely

leaden whale
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but i take aphro start so

subtle granite
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yeah aphro attack is so nice

leaden whale
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i'm not guaranteed to build into dio when i go chiron

molten marten
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Is there a guide for beginners what to level mirror of night?

woven eagle
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haelian has one

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let me find it

molten marten
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@woven eagle thank you somuch!

leaden whale
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Alright yeah bottom 3 green is what I'm running with now (still need more darkness to get them filled out though)

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yeah, persuasion especially is expensive

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i still have stuff to max...

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Just got Legacy maxed so need to save my pennies for that for sure

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i feel like i spend more time talking about the game than playing it lol

subtle granite
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same

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but the server is really nice so why not

leaden whale
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I feel that. It's wormed it's way into my brain to the point where I'm not playing it I'm thinking about HOW to play it

subtle granite
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saaaame

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i am trying to get ||father dearest|| down in less than a minute rn but thats all that i'm doing ingame 😂

leaden whale
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Oof I can't even comprehend having enough damage to get that done haha!

native knoll
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won the game

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easy

subtle granite
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the last two times i got him down in 1,5mins

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just these flipping ||DARKNESS|| calls

leaden whale
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Artemis, what is the aim when starting with Zeus as you mentioned yesterday?

woven eagle
subtle granite
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the cast just gives you a free tart

leaden whale
subtle granite
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i hope i will

leaden whale
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Ahh yeah I thought so, tried it earlier on a failed fists run and the cast mopped the first half of Tartarus

subtle granite
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damage isnt even an issue, him just saying "f this, i'm out"

leaden whale
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Yup my second clear earlier I feel like he disappeared after almost every attack he did

subtle granite
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cast does i think 80-90 damage on epic so it gets even the louts done in 2-3 hits

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if you get jolted on that you wont even have to fight anybody

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just wait for them to destroy themselves hehehehe

leaden whale
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I did get jolted later on in the run but played so poorly I died in Elysium

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Might have to swap to the increased epic talent for starting Zeus then

subtle granite
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God's legacy is only recommended if you really NEED a duo or legendary desperately

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cause else your boon pool will be thinned out towards the end of a stage that getting one anyways has a really big chane

leaden whale
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Riiiight okay, I might have to respec and move my darkness around then

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So with that in mind, is it worth focusing on 2-3 gods and just snagging as much from them as possible in order to improve the odds of Duos/Legendaries?

subtle granite
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depends on what you want to focus on?

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like if you want to try a ares cast run you really need to focus on him and artemis

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but else really get every main boon place filled - even if you dont like the dashes or cast

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cause thats already 5 boons deleted from every boon pool, tier 1 arent that important and tier 2 are very few; consumeable even less; so getting stuck with not getting a duo at all is very unlikely?

leaden whale
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What do you mean by deleted? As in if I fill an attack boon from Aphro, I won't get one offered by Zeus for example?

muted latch
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it can happen, but it's very rare

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if you have attack filled by a deity, it's very unlikely that you will see another attack boon

leaden whale
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Cool, sounds like common sense now that you mention it - my bad

subtle granite
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sorry yeah, these main spots can only be refilled with trade boons which are pretty rare

leaden whale
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Okay so I'm definitely going to respec my mirror then haha

zealous python
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hey! i have a quick question

static anvil
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<.<

zealous python
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?

static anvil
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Sorry was my way of saying I'm here to answer if I can

zealous python
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oh ; o ; sorry i thought i was already being annoying

static anvil
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Nuo nuo :}

subtle granite
zealous python
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but i just downloaded this game last night and im in the dungeons? if thats what you call it?

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and so i pressed the - button on my switch

static anvil
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If the area is green and dungeon-like, it's Tartarus

zealous python
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and i see these icons from what ive earned for weapon skills/damage stuff... and if i select them with my A button, a gold coin or something attaches to it?

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im not sure if im describing this right but im not sure what it does...

static anvil
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Ah I think...that's for much much much later

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Nothing too serious if I'm correct

zealous python
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like....so i got the heartbreaker flourish yeah? if i select it with A, it starts glowing arouns the edges?

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i cant attach a photo to show....

static anvil
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I see what you mean, but that doesn't do anything major

zealous python
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whats it for?

static anvil
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Final boss stuff

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But I'm not 100% sure

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But I do know it doesn't impact gameplay

zealous python
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also, if i go thru a dungeon and i get another thing to boost my special move, are they stacked? cause i have heartbreaker flourish and super nova, do the stats stack?

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or is it one or the other

subtle granite
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they stack

zealous python
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sweet!

subtle granite
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all boons are active at the same time unless they need something to happen (like a dio boon needs you to have less than 50% health but then it will glow to the side of your main attack boons)

zealous python
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and i think i read it online but i wanted to make sure; the stuff u buy at the mirror in your bedroom are permanate right? like, they wont go away if i die in a dungeon?

static anvil
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Yup they're permanent

leaden whale
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Yeah that's permanent spend away

static anvil
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You can reset it if you want though

zealous python
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ok ok i just wanted to make sure

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sorry all the names for stuff is new to me i had to google what boon meant xD;;

zealous python
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whats the blue/gold laurel mean...?

subtle granite
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when you can select a room you see the reward above the door in these little balls with "laurels"

static anvil
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When you clear a room, and you're choosing what rooms to enter next, the room will be decorated with a gold or blue laurel

leaden whale
subtle granite
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you're welcome :D

leaden whale
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Might actually be able to avoid the hell that is ||the witches encounter in Asphodel||

zealous python
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ahh okok!! thank you 💕

leaden whale
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I have got to reread berserk

subtle granite
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most forget to notice it i only know it because i like speedrunning.......

static anvil
zealous python
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i appreciate the help 💕💕💕

subtle granite
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so you have a 1/3 chance of getting it

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witches or ||the barge or death|| or ||the megagorgon||

leaden whale
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nice

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I got to like 250ish? in October 2018 so I think it's about time I tried again

leaden whale
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What was it that got you to stop reading initially, if you don't mind me asking?

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just got bored iirc

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for witches you just gotta bum rush them

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I get that, the pacing compared to the early arcs can be a little on the slower side

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Oh I bum rush them, I just take ungodly amounts of collateral damage for doing so

subtle granite
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also if you get athena on anything the witches are toast

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athena on dash: go to the walled in corner and dash from side to side
athena on attack: attack the bubbles

leaden whale
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My athena RNG has been pretty poor tbh, I'm thinking her keepsake might be an auto-pick pre-Asphodel for me

static anvil
waxen crypt
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That, or Exploding Launcher with Athena boon for Adamant Rail. Literally all projectiles get deflected.

muted latch
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yeah on rail and fists if you have athena attack, dash is not mandatory

waxen crypt
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Cluster Bomb with Exploding Launcher is fun as well.

muted latch
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cluster + rocket

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everything dies in big explosions

waxen crypt
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Combine that with Posideon, you can blow enemies back with sheer power.

leaden whale
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yeet stick

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I think Poseidon is my least common god, feel like I see him once every 7-10 runs at most

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Dude just avoids me

subtle granite
waxen crypt
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Crystal ain't bad, just gotta kill it first.

subtle granite
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i still hate it

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even if it aint bad

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my favorite mini boss is honestly the butterfly ball

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just pop

muted latch
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||crystal on high heat are very annoying||

subtle granite
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yes

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just the ptsd of having done high heat runs with that on MM

muted latch
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not so much for barge but annoying AF in Elysium

subtle granite
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i can get the mini ones in less than 2 hits o-o

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the barge tho makes me angry

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||chirons special arrows are breaking; support fire is quaking||

fluid crown
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do i have to kill bosses multiple times or just once?

candid nimbus
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Gotta kill 'em all in one run to be counted as a completed escape

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If you die at second boss, restart at beginning and take on boss 1 again to go to next region

fluid crown
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damn that seems impossible

subtle granite
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trust me it's easier than you think

candid nimbus
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Nah, you'll get stronger over time

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Just enjoy the journey you'll get 'em

subtle granite
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you can really plan ahead since the bosses never change in a huge way

candid nimbus
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The underworld is full of surprises though, but you got this! 👍

subtle granite
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every death you learn something new along, like if you need more damage boons or athena for her DD boons etc

fluid crown
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i keep seeing the word "boons" in some upgrades but i dont know what they are lol

candid nimbus
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They're the powerups the Gods give ya

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Like Athena gives deflect + damage boost on that specific attack

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can check your 'boon' menu to see the list... b on PC not sure what it is on Switch

fluid crown
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oh

candid nimbus
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During a run of course

subtle granite
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i dont want to spam the channels with that picture

fluid crown
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oh yeah where do i give the nectar?

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i think i got one from my last run and i needed to give it

subtle granite
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you can give it to any character in the house of hades, gods and stage npcs

fluid crown
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i gave one to skelly

subtle granite
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:o

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you should have his keepsake now in that keepsake holder in the courtyard, to the left of the sword

fluid crown
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a lucky tooth

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i can equip that permanently?

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so i should be able to revive 2 times now xd

subtle granite
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yes

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you can also buy a upgrade from the house contractor to get the keepsake holder between every stage to use different keepsakes on the run

fluid crown
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a portal now appeared in the first room and i lose health to descend

candid nimbus
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It's a new person to talk to and get stuff from, your call to go in or not here on out

subtle granite
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follow the portal 👀

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give in to your curiosity 👀

floral nacelle
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Sometimes chaos is good, sometimes not

subtle granite
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but you wanna get to know them!

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it's the first portal D:

fluid crown
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a question mark guy that gives you sth for a return xd

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erm if i buy +30hp from charon does it up my max hp if im full?

gloomy pivot
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if it's the heart icon it does but if it's the fries it just heals u

faint umbra
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btw, Chaos uses they/them pronouns shadesmile

fluid crown
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lol

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i killed meg way easier the 2nd time around

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maybe cuz of zeus' upgrades they are op xD

fickle raft
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The armored bomb tossers are the bane of my existence :(

errant bramble
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Just got 3x Legendary in one run to finish out that prophecy haha

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Haven’t mastered the stupid Lyre, but have done literally everything else now?

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Oh snap

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It changed when I played the thing.

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Finally.

candid nimbus
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takes like 200 times or something lol

floral nacelle
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You also need to talk to Orpheus some to hone your lyre skills

fluid crown
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how often do u find keepshakes after getting the upgrade?

subtle granite
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you get keepsakes from most via gifting them one nectar

fluid crown
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i mean to change the keepshake in the middle of the run

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how often do u find those

naive monolith
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Every room between areas

floral nacelle
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You buy that from the house contractor

leaden whale
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how can i get more titan blood? i have cleared tartarus with every weapon

naive monolith
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Add a level of heat

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Each level of heat will refresh the bounties.

leaden whale
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I haven't cleared the game yet

woven eagle
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Go do that then

leaden whale
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I've only reached up to ||Theseus||

naive monolith
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Then beat the game, or talk to the collector dude

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I forget his name

leaden whale
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Alright

peak vale
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yall is there a big difference between hell mode and normal?

naive monolith
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Yes. You need to have at least 5 heat right off the bat, and theres a special punishment that is only in hell mode

leaden whale
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|| Certain pacts are mandatory ||

naive monolith
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Oh yeah, that too

peak vale
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i started with hell mode and it doesnt look too difficult tbh

leaden whale
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all in all it's not very different from playing with ||heat|| in normal mode, aside from the hell mode exclusive ||punishment||

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||i can see how the fact that you can't take off some pacts would be annoying tho as you push higher heat... especially CP1 and maybe JS1||

subtle granite
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honestly ||js|| is way easier and better for low than ||cp||

leaden whale
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For sure

drifting island
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yeah agreed

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||js doesnt affect boss fights while cp does, which is the biggest thing for me||

leaden whale
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Finally got my first proper 'build' during a run and it was glorius

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I've won 3 out of my last 4 runs - is it normal to get a little flurry like this once you get your first?

subtle granite
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yes

leaden whale
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Blade rifts are kind of OP

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My screen was basically just full of chainsaws while I dodged around and fired off casts - stupid fun

errant bramble
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Do hammer boons count for the “boon-less final boss kill”

woven eagle
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I don't think so

errant bramble
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To get the dialogue I mean

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Okay so I can take hammers.

void tendon
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So i went to the last boss with the spear and i didnt unlock the secret spear aspect. Help?

vivid patio
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check pinned messages for help with hidden aspects

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er in spoilers

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should be the second pin there

cursive forge
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is there a quick way to end a run?

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I lost a death defiance to the first boss and knowing the third area I know I'm going to get my butt handed to.

errant bramble
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Esc and Give Up, but you should essentially never use it. Losing a DD early doesn’t mean anything

cursive forge
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I wish, I'm gonna need at least 5 DDs to even beat the boss

leaden whale
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Just push forward and see what you can get. Keys, darkness, nectar are always useful and will push your progress forward even if you get wiped out

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All practice is good practice in this game, or at least that's what I've found so far

sly vigil
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You can hit give up, which will not give you a new run but reset you back to the start of your current one.

leaden whale
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What do people tend to go for ||when adding heat to the run||? I'm planning to add it steadily (just escaped ||with 1 heat) and while the increased shop costs weren't too bad I'd rather keep them at base level||

errant bramble
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||Extreme measures 1/2 aren’t too bad and the timed run.||

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||also the thing where mobs have a 1 or 2 hit shield||

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Also ur supposed to spoil ||Heat|| here

cursive forge
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Damn you already escaped?

vivid patio
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@leaden whale please spoiler tag that, anything past the first clear is a spoiler in this channel

leaden whale
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Sorry about that should be fixed now!

leaden whale
sly vigil
drifting island
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^agree, those are difficult but will become necessary if you continue so getting used to them is good

leaden whale
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Alright I can work with that going forward! I'm planning on just ||increasing heat by 1 each time I run with a weapon I've cleared with|| is that the right approach to take to stop it from being overwhelming?

sly vigil
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yeah sure, I wouldn't recommend taking all of the above in at once anyhow.

woven eagle
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||if you have somewhat decent game knowledge, the first timer one is free, if you have hell mode the one you get from there is pretty free, enhanced measures 1 and 2 aren't really much harder than normal, the 20% extra damage is managable and middle management is nothing too bad most of the time(you have to learn a few new moves though)||

sly vigil
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I think ||Tight Deadline or Extreme Measure|| is a fun start

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Go fast, hit hard, win games.

leaden whale
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||Tight Deadline|| definitely worries me, not sure I'm quite swift enough for that just yet

sly vigil
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You can start with just one level. 36 minute should be enough if you consciously go fast.

woven eagle
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Just try it, if you have time left over after a region it carries over

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I never had an issue with if

leaden whale
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Yeah you're right, I've got nothing to lose really

drifting island
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@leaden whale honestly i think early on you can ||move up by multiple heat at a time. its all up to how you feel really so test out some different heats and see how you do if you want to keep climbing||

woven eagle
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You have to try a bit with the second level, but it is still very managable

leaden whale
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My fastest time is 39 minutes so I think I could maybe make it work

drifting island
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if you keep time in mind as you play, 36 minutes is absolutely doable

leaden whale
drifting island
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oh

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ur right, my bad

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i mean you can always go back and get those but yeah prob best to ||do it one by one then, i forgot lol||

leaden whale
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No worries haha! Just wanted to check in case I was misunderstanding something

woven eagle
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No, you always get the reward for 1 over your highest assuming you do at least that much heat

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So if your next one is 8 heat and you do 10 you still get the reward for 8

drifting island
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yeah, but still if you ||want to get all the rewards you'll have to do it 20 times, so might as well move it one by one to get gradually used to it||

forest thistle
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I think its really stupid that they lock progression of one weapon behind that of others. I don't want to play with the stupid shield. I want to play with the bow

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the shield does no damage at all

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nibbling his HP down

drifting island
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you dont need to, do you?

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i never played with the shield until very recently lmao

forest thistle
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he just needs 1-2 attacks to kill me

woven eagle
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What are you talking about, you don't have to use the shield

sly vigil
forest thistle
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how do you unlock more titan blood?

drifting island
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you can do every other weapon

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that should be enough

woven eagle
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Yeah

drifting island
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also ||u can exchange ambrosia for blood||

sly vigil
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Beat the game once, then you will have an option to "farm" for blood.

leaden whale
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||Increase heat||

forest thistle
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i ahve to use other weapons to unlock titan blood so i can upgrade the one weapon i actually want to play with

sly vigil
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You can use any weapon for that.

drifting island
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i actually still havent gotten all the bounties for shield and rail

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and ive had maxed weapons for a long time

tall sail
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Is it me or does the Shield take forever to do damage

sly vigil
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yup

tall sail
drifting island
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it kinda does yeah

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well depends on the aspect but

leaden whale
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Shield and Exagryph are the two weapons I just don't vibe with at all

drifting island
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its slower than a lot of things

leaden whale
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the only good thing with zag shield is pulverizing blow at lv 5

drifting island
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shield and rail are things i never played with initially but ive gotten to like them more recently

sly vigil
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well this is new player channel, vanilla shield without upgrade/good boons = sleep fest.

drifting island
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i still like fists and bow the most tho

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yeah foxhope

leaden whale
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yep

drifting island
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it takes ages

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to win with base shield

leaden whale
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Sword & Bow are my babies

woven eagle
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The first time I won with shield I used it mostly like the fists by just spamming attack

leaden whale
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Spear is also crazy fun but I've not got to run with it an awful lot

woven eagle
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Worked alright

old escarp
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Bow gang unite

sly vigil
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I legit gave up half way through with my shield on a new hell mode run because 40+ timer xD

leaden whale
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sord gang roll up

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||Aspect of Nemesis|| is so fun. I really like the loop you get into while attacking

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And I've just realised that's probably why I like ||Chiron|| for the bow so much...

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bam boom bop

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badabapboom

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pow

woven eagle
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||Chiron bow is the best bow, all users of inferior aspects arr heretics and need to be purged||

leaden whale
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||Rama is best actually||

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Music to my ears

drifting island
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||rama is best i will die on this hill||

woven eagle
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More workers for the gulag

cursive forge
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I just got the rail

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Might try it later

leaden whale
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I still need to learn how to use it. It's probably really good with Dio or ||Demeter|| just due to the attack speed

cursive forge
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The rail?

leaden whale
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Yeah! We're both talking about the gun right?

cursive forge
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Yeah, I was using all my keys for it so I think I'm really underpowered in terms of reflections

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Im only up to the cast upgrade one.

leaden whale
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Don't worry about that, I focused on unlocking all the weapons first too. The keys will start to stack up over time again

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You can also trade for them with the wretched broker. 10 jewels for 1 key but don't quote me on that I might be wrong

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Side note: your name/avatar is further convincing me I need to do another pokemon nuzlocke soon

cursive forge
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What's a nuzlocke?

drifting island
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a run through of a pokemon game with certain rules

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  1. you have to catch the first pokemon you see in a new area (route or wherever wild pkmn are), 2) if a pokemon faints, you can not use it for the rest of the game
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i believe those are the 2 main ones

cursive forge
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Wow, that sounds insanely difficult

karmic hamlet
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yea thats the main 2 rules

drifting island
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its not that bad for most base pkmn games since they're relatively simple

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its when you start getting into romhack nuzlockes that things get rough

sly vigil
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Nuzlocke makes Pokemon a roguelite.

karmic hamlet
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you should check out pokemonchallenges tbh he does them with some hardcore rules which is cool

leaden whale
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I also add:

  • Set Battle Mode
  • No Items in Battle
  • No Over-leveling the next Gym Leader
sly vigil
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  • No Over-leveling the next Gym Leader
    Haven't heard of this one.
karmic hamlet
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i was gonna say lol those rules look very similar to how he plays it lmao

leaden whale
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Found his channel a month or so ago and instantly loved the rule set

old escarp
karmic hamlet
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sorry

sly vigil
#

How do you know the level of the Gym leader if you do a blind nuzlocke?

leaden whale
#

My bad I'll move now

cursive forge
#

Before I get back to more runs I wanted to ask if Aires is rare?

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Cause I haven't gotten him in like 8 runs

karmic hamlet
#

none of the gods have different rarities to my knowledge, if you really want to play ares i'd suggest using his keepsake

cursive forge
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That's the thing

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I need to give him nectar still

leaden whale
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When i have those bottles i can gift to certain people,is it worth it to give it to just one or all people should receive one

cursive forge
#

I think all people should receive one

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I don't know if consecutive works

leaden whale
#

I have given like 3 to Aphrodite and all it seems i got was dialogue,maybe slightly better boons?

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focus on giving them to different people first

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maxing out hearts is a lategame thing

drifting island
#

you dont really get anything from giving the gods more nectar after the first one

floral nacelle
#

I don’t think nectar affects boon rarity, sadly

drifting island
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it does not

floral nacelle
#

Only their keepsake, the mirror, and possible chaos boons do that

leaden whale
#

Oh,thank you.

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Yeah 100% give one to everybody first

floral nacelle
#

and don’t underestimate the value of Olympian keepsakes

leaden whale
#

Get all the items and then work on them individually is the plan (I assume)

floral nacelle
#

Being able to shape your build early in your run is very beneficial

leaden whale
floral nacelle
#

Yep, keepsakes like those

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It also means that even after the guaranteed boon, any boons that you get from them have a higher chance to be rare

leaden whale
#

I seethanthink got the game yesterday

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It will all become second nature over time, I'm only just getting to grips with a lot of systems even after successful attempts

queen saddle
#

Hey, I am starting the game out ||(barely got the minotaur to half hp)|| and in other games I LOVE archers classes, but the bow here just feels... bad (2 seconds of delay to deal 70 damage, without the protection of multiple hits and barely any extra range), is there any playstyle/boon/gift to get it to be good?

drifting island
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if you charge your attack very soon after dashing it charges up much faster

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usually you want boons like aphrodite or artemis on your attack, they work very well

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personally i love the bow, i think once u get used to the charge time its very nice to be able to play at a range

leaden whale
#

pretty much exclusively use dash strikes

cursive forge
#

FINALLY

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beat the third boss

leaden whale
#

nice

cursive forge
#

that was so hard, I think I killed the wrong person first.

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cost me 2 DDs

drifting island
#

it’s a hard boss, congrats

cursive forge
#

thank you

leaden whale
#

third boss is a pain

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he blocked my aphrodite call

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and called me a cheater

cursive forge
#

wait

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do I have to go through each tunnel to pass through the road block?

quiet cypress
#

no

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theres is a random chance it's in any tunnel after the second

clear yew
#

also once you get the correct path there's a fountain to heal you

tall sail
#

Wait I recognize you

cursive forge
#

I hate this game

karmic hamlet
#

its a very high chance to get the sack after the 2nd set of chambers

errant bramble
#

Approximately 1 in 3? Lol

vivid patio
#

please dont evade the swear filter 0:

nocturne meadow
#

how do I get the life steal bonus again?

errant bramble
#

My bad.

fickle rivet
#

This game is amazing. To make the most progress I want to stack dark elixir right?

errant bramble
#

Early on you want darkness and keys

karmic hamlet
#

its one of the hammer upgrades for the sword @nocturne meadow its not considered very good however as you have really low health with it

floral nacelle
#

@nocturne meadow or maybe you’re talking about the fist hammer? It’s also random

nocturne meadow
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true

fickle rivet
#

What's the best weapon to use? I've been using the aegis shield and keep dying at the end of elysium

errant bramble
#

Whatever you want

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Seriously

floral nacelle
#

Best weapon is all personal preference

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The shield is very newbie friendly because it can block tho

leaden whale
#

the rail is good i like ot

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it

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also malphon is good too imo

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aegis shield i don't like because the damage feels piss poor to me idk

drifting island
#

shield can be a bit slow yeah

errant bramble
#

The ||rail||is easily the worst 😛

fickle rivet
#

Is the guantlet worth getting early?

leaden whale
#

rail is pretty good @errant bramble

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eris aspect

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+75% bonus damage

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stacked with zeus chain lightning

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🔥

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plus if you have the rockets daedulus hammer you can stay up close and still do good af damage

errant bramble
#

Yeah I hate it. I’m aware it’s good hah

peak vale
#

pog i beat the final boss for real this time 😄

ivory ocean
#

congrats!

devout cape
#

Great dude

leaden whale
#

need to do that sometime

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when i stop sucking

devout cape
#

Just did the same an hour ago

leaden whale
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i had two death defiances, now i have three

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ill probably get up to the area after ||elysium|| now

errant bramble
#

@fickle rivet do what you want. You’ll get more currency.

tall sail
#

I am determined to clear this game with the shield but it just does like no damage

leaden whale
#

yeah it takes too long

peak vale
#

swiftly added to my favorites shadesmile

waxen basin
#

How is yours bigger?

leaden whale
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because it's a link

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and the link is 64x64 iirc

near mulch
cursive forge
#

so I completed my first run

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I had the aspect of Hestia, Triple Bomb, Frost Flourish, and Stubborn roots.

placid karma
#

congrats!

placid karma
blazing ridge
#

This might sound rlly dumb and probably is but for the hidden bow aspect (||the aspect of Rama||), can Artemis tell you the phrase on your first boon / first time you see her? Or do I have to grind out entire runs

fickle mountain
#

is there any quick way to check who i gave gifts to?

blazing ridge
#

As in ||nectar||? You can check the codex and it will show hearts, red ones mean you have and if they have a key hole it means they gave you a keepsake

waxen basin
#

I think you need at least 2 runs for aspect stuff

lyric tiger
#

Can the npcs really fight with you?

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What are the conditions for that?

floral nacelle
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Only ||one||

lyric tiger
#

Also Merry Christmas zagluv

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Oh who?

floral nacelle
#

||Charon, and you fight him by borrowing obols||

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Actually, scratch that it's actually three

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They're the first and final bosses respectively

lyric tiger
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Oh i mean fight with you as in companion for fights

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Like how Thanatos can

floral nacelle
#

Oh, i read it as fighting against you

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But yeah, that's a thing they can do

lyric tiger
#

Yeah sorry i was not clear lol

floral nacelle
#

You need to get really close to some NPCs first for that

lyric tiger
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Oh

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So lots of nectar then

blazing ridge
#

For me it was 6 nectar and 1 ambrosia for skelly to get his ||companion|| (he is the only one I’ve done thus far)

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So I’d say it’s that much for all of them

lyric tiger
#

Hmm so who would you say are the strongest companions?

floral nacelle
#

I really like ||Meg's and Achille's||

blazing ridge
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||Megs|| is the strongest / most used by the community

floral nacelle
#

Yeah, my fastest runs are with ||Meg||

blazing ridge
#

Yeah but I can’t rlly talk as I don’t have it lmao

floral nacelle
#

I tried using the others, but I didn't like them as much

blazing ridge
#

So I recommend going ||megs || first and then go after the rest in any order you like

lyric tiger
#

I think i also read you can have duo companions like ||Achilles and Patroclus||?

floral nacelle
#

Her requirements are also one of the easiest, you just need to ||talk to her a bit||

leaden whale
#

I got up to ||Hades|| and almost beat him

placid karma
#

niiice. almost there!

rose mantle
#

Finally made it to Elysium for the first time residentzag

old escarp
#

Congrats!

fickle mountain
#

what casts are usually considered really good?

muted latch
#

good on its own: zeus, artemis, poseidon, athena
build/support centric: aphrodite, demeter, dionysus, ares

fickle mountain
#

i see, thanks

muted latch
#

please spoiler tag the final boss name

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and a usual redacted fight with proper build takes about 2-3 min, without ||EM4|| it's not tough

fickle rivet
#

I meant altogether, like getting to that fight as well

old escarp
#

You can spoiler tag a word or sentence by putting || on either side of the word - strike-through isn't the same

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Or if you highlight the text, it should pop up with a context menu that has spoiler tag as an option

muted latch
#

total length differs

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my clear runs varies between 18 to 42 minutes

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expect your first clears to take 25-30min

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if not longer

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once you get decent upgrades and have a good build 20-25 min is usually the ballpark

fickle rivet
#

Cool thanks!

old escarp
#

Keep in mind that that is in-game time, not real time shadethumbsup

muted latch
#

yeah real time is going to be longer

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if you need to pause to think, or read the dialogue

fickle rivet
#

lmaoo what? I didn't know there was in game time

muted latch
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(read them they are fantastic)

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go to options, there is a setting that enables in game timer

fickle rivet
#

I always read the dialogue, very well written. And I'll definitely turn that on

old escarp
#

I think when I first did a complete run it usually ran me about 45 minutes to an hour real time, or about 30-45 minutes on the in-game timer

muted latch
#

yeah my first couple runs are usually in the 30 min range IGT

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real time is about 5 min longer

old escarp
#

All that said, your own experience may differ - try not to get caught up on comparing yourself to what others have done shadesmile

muted latch
#

a clear is a clear

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no matter how long it takes

worldly junco
#

How do I replenish my god gauges?

old escarp
#

You generate god gauge by taking or dealing damage in encounters, and it expires at the end of each encounter

worldly junco
#

oh damn okay, thanks!

tame pulsar
#

I just got the game yesterday. Man this is fun but i can't manage to get past the bull guy (forgot his name)

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this is hard

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any tips?

muted latch
#

for that boss combat in general, hide behind pillars, get used to the bull's pattern and focus on him

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but it's usually something you beat after a decent amount of upgrades

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most notably more HP and additional death defiance

vivid patio
#

kiting him into walls is sometimes more reliable than into pillars since he can turn quickly

muted latch
#

yep when he charges, go stand near a wall, dash away from the wall when he is close, he will slam into the wall

tame pulsar
#

I try to get additional desth defiance but those are rare. the one I get from skelly's thing after I gave him nectar (forgot what its called) gives me 1 but I usually end up using it in boss 1. i feel like boss 1 is way harder than hydra

muted latch
#

||it's a mirror upgrade||

dry breach
#

||guys wut does diamonds even do-||

muted latch
#

||later, check the house contractor||

dry breach
#

||kk||

lethal mantle
#

does hades has block and parry feature

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or dashing is the only way to avoid dmg

muted latch
#

chaos shield block works

dry breach
#

shield can block if u hold ur left mouse button or whatever button on ur controller

muted latch
#

Hermes has a boon that has a chance to autododge stuff

dry breach
#

and when u let go u dash at them with ur shield its a good way to get them next to the wall for extra dmg

muted latch
#

athena's dash has extra deflect (no extra invinc frames), her call is also invincibility

dry breach
#

athena's dash is OP just give her some nectar and put her owl pendadent on and every run u will either get her calling 1st or a hammer

muted latch
#

zag's dash also has enormous amount of invincibility frame

dry breach
#

true

muted latch
#

it's basically the entire duration so you dont really need block or parry

dry breach
#

how to get the ||pact of punishment ?||

muted latch
#

||clear the game||

dry breach
#

ah dammnit

waxen basin
#

Yoooo but imagine they add a god who gives a parry or a counter

muted latch
#

revenge is a mechanic in the game

waxen basin
#

True true

muted latch
#

athena also has a boon that increases deflect damage

dry breach
#

just get athena's dash from the start its a great base

waxen basin
#

But imagine if revenge was tied to like when you use special or attack or dash or cast

lethal mantle
#

i see

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didnt know that wep is shield

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i only have spear and sword atm

waxen basin
#

I guess that's just reflect what I said

lethal mantle
#

does dungeon crawler game

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do they come with block and parry mechanic usually?

waxen basin
#

No not normally but I'd be cool

lethal mantle
#

i see

muted latch
#

it entirely depends on the genre

lethal mantle
#

i always thought hades has one

waxen basin
#

mainly I just like throwing out new God ideas

fickle mountain
#

omg i finally made it past elysium

#

the gun is op

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i love it

limpid charm
#

That was fun

dry breach
#

ayy thats epik

fickle mountain
#

is there anything i should be aware of before spending titan blood on upgrading the weapons?

karmic hamlet
#

That some are better than others and picking a really good aspect first will make getting more blood easier

thin sleet
#

some aspects also rely more or less on their levels

junior otter
#

Maybe not the right channel, but I'm conflicted on buying this game. I've heard it's amazing, but I've also heard there's like, no variation in rooms and only slight variations in bosses. Part of what I like most about binding of Issac is the randomization, so idk if I'd like this game

dry breach
#

i just reseted my stats and i have 1490 darkness and im looking to get my 1st win with a lvl 3 chiron aspect bow any suggestions ?

muted latch
#

the strongest part of Hades is the narrative and how it's woven into the repeatable gameplay

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the lack of variation is grounded in its setting and narratives so if a truck ton of biome variation is what you value in roguelikes it's probably not

vocal nymph
#

I think it's important to note that the rooms are like Isaac, they differ every run, there's just far less of them

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I think that also you can enjoy the game for the gameplay

karmic hamlet
#

get the 2 death defiances @dry breach

junior otter
#

Is it actually fun though. Looks kinda basic

vocal nymph
#

There's a lot of depth in the gameplay that can be dug into

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Yes

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It's fun

muted latch
#

it's up there as the best of the game of the year for a reason

muted latch
#

the gameplay is anything but basic

vocal nymph
#

I've played on and off since it was first announced. It's fun

muted latch
#

the gameplay system is not less deep than any great roguelike out there

drifting island
#

you went into a server made for this game (and a few others), and asked if we find it fun

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we wouldnt be here if it wasnt fun lmao

junior otter
#

I was mostly asking like

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What's fun about it

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I thought it looked basic from what I saw

muted latch
#

it's not basic in any means

muted latch
#

||6|| weapons with completely different playstyle

junior otter
muted latch
#

and then ||multiple weapon aspects|| to change them even further

#

that's ||24|| very different combat playstyles alone

#

then once you open up the systems you dont just have the weapons

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how you tailor your run, how you add addtional modifiers to change the encounters

junior otter
#

How do you tailor your run

muted latch
#

some so massive they are basically entirely different

junior otter
#

Is there items

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Like Issac?

muted latch
#

||a big system you can configure before a run||

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plus yes, items that you can use to control your RNG

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and then in the run you have your normal roguelike systems, random pick ups that change your attacks or defense in completely different ways

junior otter
#

Okay

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Thanks for explaining

#

I'll check it out

tough garnet
#

can i make it so i have multiple Keepsakes at the same time?

muted latch
#

no you cant

dry breach
#

guys i meg's other sister has ||replaced meg|| so can i use my normal weapons to defeat her or use my otheer weapons which i havent defeated meg with

tough garnet
muted latch
#

so you will still only get darkness from them

dry breach
#

so i have to just use my other weapons sad-

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i basically learned meg's pattern-

molten marten
tough garnet
#

nope

queen plover
#

to open those up you gotta get your relationship real high with certain NPCs

dry breach
#

i got a lvl 3 chiron aspect bow but it doesnt seem much different from a lvl 2 one

ornate remnant
dry breach
#

oOF

muted latch
#

yeah that's why chiron is much better if you save up to get it to lv 4+

dry breach
#

ah shoot

kindred gazelle
#

so uhm what do you do when you enter the witches circle with no deflect no ranged attack and a slow curse?

drifting island
#

be sad?

kindred gazelle
#

welp

drifting island
#

lmao

pastel scroll
kindred gazelle
#

well i had the fists and made the mistake of taking poseidons attack boon. Lets say knockback and combos don't interact well

muted latch
#

Beeline left or right, nuke one as ap

fickle mountain
#

what is the first aspect i should choose for the fist?

ornate remnant
#

Personally, Talos

placid karma
#

demeter (if you can level it up to max asap) for burst dmg vs bosses

muted latch
#

Talos works better at low level, demeter is stronger at max

kindred gazelle
#

Btw any tips against tisiphone and alecto? I can deal with meg quite consistently but i struggle against the other 2 with close range weaponry

obsidian locust
#

The strat for meg, alecto and tisiphone are pretty much the same honessstly, the onyl thing I'd change for each of them is just dodging their unique attacks. Otherwise it's usually the same thing

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So advice would be to understand each of their move sets first squirtnya

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Alecto has the buzz-saw that she spawns while tisiphone makes you lose your maneuverability by decreasing the mount of space present.

toxic quail
#

I think Alecto is pretty straightforward, just dodge the projectiles and don't stand in the circles. For Tisiphone, keep in mind that unlike her sisters she dashes twice in a row. For all the sisters you should be avoiding their whip attacks, which are pretty telegraphed.

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Patience is key.

leaden whale
#

I unlocked all || six weapons and got the option to upgrade them,is the titans blood easily accessible? Are all aspects viable? ||

toxic quail
#

@leaden whale ||It's not HARD to get more blood but it's not exactly quick either. Certain aspects are better than others, especially in certain circumstances, but it really comes down to preference in the end.||

leaden whale
#

Okay thank you

toxic quail
#

Some will say it's best to ||focus on upgrading one aspect rather than unlocking a bunch|| but I didn't follow this advice at all and I had a perfectly good time.

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That being said, I do wish I'd leveled ||Achilles spear|| earlier. My favorite ||aspect|| now.

ocean briar
#

man this game is amazing

toxic quail
#

Do you mean to do first?

#

I just think it's really fun because I like cast builds.

fickle mountain
#

i regret spending so much blood on chaos for the shield

#

i shouldve focused on the fist first

toxic quail
#

I definitely wasted a lot.

fickle mountain
#

oh well, i eventually have to clear with both of them anyway

toxic quail
#

It's funny because the ||aspects|| I leveled last, like ||Achilles, Zeus, Eris||, are all my favorites now. Heh.

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Not ||Eris||, I meant ||Hestia||.

kindred gazelle
#

i immediately pumped all my blood into maxing zagreus aspect for the fists cause i'm a nut for tank builds.

fickle mountain
#

what does dodge chance do again

kindred gazelle
#

chance to ignore damage

fickle mountain
#

oh lol

#

what lvl is max?

toxic quail
#

5

kindred gazelle
#

5 for 15% chance

fickle mountain
#

oh ok

leaden whale
#

So far || fists|| are my favourite parred with || arrow when you attack that launches boon||

toxic quail
#

Different ||aspects|| require different amounts.

dry breach
#

even ||aspects|| are spoilers o-o

#

damnnn

fickle mountain
#

i initially didnt unlock the fists and the rail because i thought it wouldnt be as good as the shield since i thought blocking was broken

#

but being able to attack so fast with the fists and stagger enemies constantly is so fun

toxic quail
#

@dry breach In this chat I think they are, in discussion they aren't. Better safe than sorry tho

dry breach
#

true

kindred gazelle
#

One of my favourites was the bow and special inflicts doom boon. Got it to epic and leveled it like hell.
Arrow spread dealt 10 damage and then the doom effect dealt 220 damage XD

fickle mountain
#

should you priorities choosing daedulus hammer all the time?

#

im guessing you should

#

cause the upgrades are usually nutty

dry breach
#

ngl ||lvl 3 chiron aspect the only dramatic change i notice is the arrows hit multiple opponents when u hold and release ur attack button/mouse||

kindred gazelle
#

Upgrades can be insane but lets say you already have a very strong upgrade. Maybe investing into boosting that with boons is better than upgrading another attack of the weapon

toxic quail
#

||Chiron|| is SUPER strong.

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I love it

dry breach
#

yeah i heard lvl 4+ is where it shines

toxic quail
#

Especially with the right hammer upgrades, like extra special shots or extra damage for consecutive hits.

fickle mountain
#

||do you get new bounties each heat level?||

dry breach
#

the lvl 3 ||chiron aspect|| is great just the upgrades dissapointing until u get 4 and up to max

toxic quail
obsidian locust
#

But only if you completed the previous ||heat|| level

toxic quail
fickle mountain
#

oh ok

#

also is there any way i can gurantee having athena in the earlier stages of the run

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cause i cant live without divine dash

obsidian locust
#

You could equip her keepsake squirtnya

fickle mountain
#

oh yeah

kindred gazelle
#

consecutive hits resets on a new combo though so you only get a max of 0/5/10/15/20 extra damage on the 1./2./3./4./5. hit respectively so in total a full combo has 50 extra damage

obsidian locust
#

Make sure not to get addicted to it though

toxic quail
#

Divine dash is amazing but splash dash is divine

fickle mountain
#

though i kinda such at this game and i need skelly's keepsake for 1 extra death defiance

dry breach
#

wut is ||heat || tho

kindred gazelle
#

i run dusas keepsake. The healing is insane

obsidian locust
#

Its something that unlocks after defeating the final boss

fickle mountain
#

dusas, huh 🤔

kindred gazelle
#

healing is super limited in the game and the droprate is actually pretty good

dry breach
obsidian locust
#

Deflect is great all around squirtnya

dry breach
#

yup divine dash is just prob the best move athena can get u

kindred gazelle
#

i had the spear with special does deflect. Bone hydra was pretty much an afk fight

toxic quail
#

Nothing, literally nothing, feels better than deflecting a certain attack in the final biome.

kindred gazelle
#

stand outside its slam range and spamming special

dry breach
#

also u should prob know like the general idea of every god's boons it helps alot for ex- are's boon help's in doing a ton of dps and a doom set would be good with him

toxic quail
#

@obsidian locust Indeed

obsidian locust
#

True it does feel great deflecting that

kindred gazelle
#

how many biomes are there? never got past the final boss of the third

toxic quail
#

Sweet revenge

fickle mountain
#

i have a habit of spamming dodge so i often dont deflect properly, specially boss attacks

toxic quail
#

You'll find out @kindred gazelle 🙂

dry breach
#

yeah prob dont spoil ur self

fickle mountain
#

so many things going on its hard to keep track lol

toxic quail
#

tbh the map sort of gives it away...

dry breach
#

unless u have the codex u will know how many biomes but just dont know the names

kindred gazelle
#

I hope there are a LOT cause i heard the game doesn't have an endless mode and i love long runs in rougelikes

obsidian locust
#

Even if there aren't a lot, hades does a great job at offering the player replayability

toxic quail
#

Yeah

fickle mountain
#

yeah

kindred gazelle
#

isaac, slay the spire, 20XX, Risk of rain 2. Most of my time was spent in endless mode

toxic quail
#

I'm not even competitive but I feel the drive to beat my best time with each weapon.

fickle mountain
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game devs should learn from hades on how to make their game replayable

dry breach
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i mean i dunno much ||but i think the biomes get smaller the further u go bec the 1st one is pretty big , asphodell was short hydra was pretty epik and the other one i got thru a few chambers eventually got wiped||

kindred gazelle
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game devs should learn from hades on how to make their game repayable.
Oh you mean like EA?

fickle mountain
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||being able to manipulate difficulty in your own preferences is clever||

dry breach
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ngl in hades i rlly wished we could go outside go to olympus and u know explore the overworld i thought that could be kool .>.

kindred gazelle
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you can change difficulty?

obsidian locust
dry breach
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there's hell mode and god mode

kindred gazelle
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oh that.

toxic quail
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You'll find out 🙂

obsidian locust
leaden whale
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I slayed the || minotaur duo boss || will it take shorter to reach that boss again,it seems its really long to get back after death

obsidian locust
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The number of chambers you receive can be really short or long, If you get fountain room ,shops and the npc then it feel really short. But if you get extremely tough enemies in each room, it ted to drag on

kindred gazelle
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Is it just me or does the (act 3 spoiler) ||Minotaur|| have a metric ton of health?

toxic quail
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@dry breach The first ||3|| biomes have the same number of chambers I believe.

obsidian locust
toxic quail
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spoiler

obsidian locust
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Theseus is a spoiler?

toxic quail
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Bosses are

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Except Meg I believe

obsidian locust
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Anything past the first victory are spoilers here

kindred gazelle
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like i clapped the biome 2 boss relatively fast but ||minotaurs|| healthbar barely flinched

toxic quail
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Did you fight him alone?

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Or was he with a friend

kindred gazelle
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both

obsidian locust
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Elysium is just a vibe check in general

dry breach
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isnt elysium in greek mythology where hereos go when they die

toxic quail
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Yep

dry breach
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welp makes sense

obsidian locust
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yes indeed squirtnya

toxic quail
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It's like the heaven of hell

obsidian locust
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It's the Heaven of Greek Myth

kindred gazelle
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also can someone explain to me how to avoid biome3 bosses ||minotaurs|| charge attack where he runs at you. Just dodge till he stops? or get him to slam into a wall? Attack him?

muted latch
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||Zag sometimes actually comments about that||

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||"time to kill some heroes"||

obsidian locust
molten marten
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can anyone tell me.

muted latch
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stand near a wall, dodge opposite direction when he is close

molten marten
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who should i concentrate gifting to?

muted latch
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more consistent than pillars

obsidian locust
muted latch
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everyone first for keepsakes

molten marten
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okie

muted latch
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then it's all up to you

molten marten
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after that?

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okay thank u

obsidian locust
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They all deserve love and nectar

muted latch
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if you want to min max go Meg

molten marten
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gift = 1 talk?

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what does min max means? sorry

muted latch
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she has something very useful late for you

molten marten
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i am new.

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Okie. thank you dig

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Meg the first boss in blue

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okok i will start gifiting her then

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thank you for your advice.

toxic quail
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You will be swimming in nectar, don't worry.

muted latch
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nah you might not be able to gift the person you want after every run because they dont necessarily show up at home

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so gift whoever you want to

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you wont be lacking nectar

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it's like the easiest resource to come by

toxic quail
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You can just trade for it if you don't have any

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Unless you're all about the aesthetics and spent all your gems.

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Also, remember to pet the pup.

muted latch
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always pet the dog

molten marten
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Okie got it.

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which weapon should i use my titan blood on?

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i got 3 now..

toxic quail
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Whichever you prefer

molten marten
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Can I reset to get the titan blod back

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or no

toxic quail
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If you stay in the courtyard, you can spend the blood and test it on Skelly

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Then quit out and load and you'll get the blood back

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Just don't leave the courtyard.

molten marten
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How toq uit

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as in

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just literally

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ESC ad quit?

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ESC and quit

toxic quail
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Yeah

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That's how it works on Switch at least.

molten marten
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Okie

toxic quail
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I assume the same is true of PC

molten marten
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all weapons are good right?

toxic quail
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Ummm

molten marten
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Or which one is easier to use

toxic quail
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My favorite is bow

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The only one I dislike is sword

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But some people feel the opposite

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So, to each their own.

molten marten
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Okay.

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Anyway is there a guide for my mirror of night?

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Boiling Blood or Abyssal Blood?

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This is for the mirror of the night upgrade

toxic quail
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I always use Boiling but I could be an idiot.

muted latch
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3x death defiance, thick skin, +1 dash, chthonic vitality, the rest is up to you

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if you think it might be useful pick it

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you can reset the mirror later at any time so experiment

molten marten
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OIkay.

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Okay.

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Does the Cast stacks?

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Like if i throw 3 cast on the boss

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Does it means I can get 3 times of the debuffs.

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Like example i chose Boiling Blood.. 30% attack to foes on cast. Does it means 90% if i throw 3 of it on boss?

toxic quail
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No

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Doesn't matter how many there are in them

muted latch
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boiling blood does not stack, just one embed counts

toxic quail
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Would be awesome if it did

molten marten
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Does Abyssal Bloood stacks then?

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Or it doesnt too? hahaha

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Dark Foresight or Olympian Favour ?

toxic quail
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Doesn't

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As digmouse said, it's a matter of taste. I take favour

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I mean

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Foresight

molten marten
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haha

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im a indecisive person.

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so asking the pros like you guys will be easier

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xD

toxic quail
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If you're basing your build around one specific boon, the poms are important

thin sleet
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I'm pretty sure there's a mirror guide on YouTube by Haelian

toxic quail
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But if you're taking multiple boons, then you might prefer the rarity boost.

errant bramble
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If you’re aware of your indecisiveness, might I suggest that a video game is a good place to practice making decisions given that they don’t matter? Life advice from discord

toxic quail
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One of the things that makes Hades great is that there are very few wrong decisions.

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(Though there are a few)

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# thin sleet I'm pretty sure there's a mirror guide on YouTube by Haelian

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fickle mountain
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should i priorities upgrading god's pride or fated authority?

toxic quail
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God's pride takes way less to max

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I prefer Fated Persuasion over Authority tho

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If you use authority, be sure to pay attention to the door type.

solar panther
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I’ve made 8 run attempts and only gotten to asphodel once, is that really bad?

toxic quail
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No

solar panther
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The game just feels difficult for me

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Idk why

toxic quail
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There's an easy mode

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But

solar panther
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Yea but who wants to do easy mode lmao

toxic quail
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It gets easier as you collect darkness

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And keys

solar panther
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Are there like any strategies or smth

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And what’s the best starter weapon

toxic quail
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Patience

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All weapons are viable

solar panther
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Is shield the best?

errant bramble
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“All weapons are viable.”

opaque geyser
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ironically sword is probably one of the harder ones

toxic quail
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It can be really strong

solar panther
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Thx for the help

toxic quail
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Are you dying to the boss or to the enemies?

solar panther
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Yes

toxic quail
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Haha

solar panther
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But now

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I only die to asphodel stuff

toxic quail
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Make sure you're working on your mirror

solar panther
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I just lose health 😢

toxic quail
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Once you get a few revives you'll be set

solar panther
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I have 1 death defiance so far and some other useless stuff

inner thorn
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Do you have second dash?

solar panther
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Yes

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But I never use it

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Is it good

thin sleet
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USE IT

inner thorn
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Oh use it

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It’s really good

solar panther
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Oh ok

thin sleet
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the extra dash is basically your get out of jail free card

solar panther
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Yea that makes sense

toxic quail
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And Athena's Divine Dash is very helpful

inner thorn
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If you’re dying to lava the second dash is a game changer

thin sleet
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and if you get something like Passion/Tidal Dash your Dash suddenly becomes another damage component

solar panther
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Btw I have 42 darkness so far should I save it for second death defiance

thin sleet
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also more mobility in an action game with good i-frames

inner thorn
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No

solar panther
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So dash is very good

inner thorn
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Do you have regen?

solar panther
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That’s what I’m getting

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Yes

inner thorn
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Ok

thin sleet
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how much Darkness was 2nd DD again?

solar panther
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I just used my 40 to max out regen

inner thorn
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Then go ahead and save for death defiance

solar panther
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500

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Oh and why the hell do they all have British accents

toxic quail
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Because they're olden time-y

solar panther
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Haha yea

toxic quail
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Everyone had a British accent prior to 1776.

errant bramble
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Possibly bc the voice actors were...British?

solar panther
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@errant bramble if they’re voice actors they can easily play another accent

inner thorn
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No that couldn’t be it

muted latch
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but SGG is an American company

thin sleet
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it's more of a performance thing

inner thorn
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Maybe they like it

muted latch
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not entirely sure which country Darren is from though

toxic quail
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i like it 🙂

solar panther
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me too

inner thorn
solar panther
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whats malphon

toxic quail
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fists

subtle granite
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it really depends on you tho

thin sleet
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depends on your playstyle

solar panther
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haven't unlocked that yet

errant bramble
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The best weapon is the one you like

toxic quail
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Yep

inner thorn
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You need bow spear and shield to unlock it

subtle granite
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if you dislike very close playstyle fists isnt for you

solar panther
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oh I don't have spear yet

inner thorn
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Then us bow

thin sleet
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if you like going near their faces, Fists are good. Safety and a damn good rush go Shield

subtle granite
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each weapon has its upsides and downsides