#h1-for-new-players | Supergiant Games | Page 213

leaden whale Dec 21, 2020, 1:09 PM

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At least the rail is really good

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I think ill get close again

opal ibex Dec 21, 2020, 1:10 PM

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My first ||Hades|| kill was with the zues shield

ornate remnant Dec 21, 2020, 1:10 PM

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You'll get there! Also, || final boss' name is considered a spoiler in this channel, just a heads up. Either tag or say "Redacted" please friendly ||

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@opal ibex you too^^

opal ibex Dec 21, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Oops sorry

ornate remnant Dec 21, 2020, 1:11 PM

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|| like this for spoiler tags ||

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Two bars

leaden whale Dec 21, 2020, 1:11 PM

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ornate remnant You'll get there! Also, || final boss' name is considered a spoiler in this chan...

||sorry I meant it like the game hades||

ornate remnant Dec 21, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Hahaha, that's fair

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No worries friendly

woeful lake Dec 21, 2020, 1:27 PM

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At this point it’s going to be like 65 runs before I win once. ||All I want is more titan blood|| shadegrief

autumn radish Dec 21, 2020, 1:28 PM

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I just can't get past ||Minotaur and Theseus|| when I don't have ||lifesteal||...

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And I have only got ||lifesteal|| once in 26 attempts

woeful lake Dec 21, 2020, 1:43 PM

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I didn’t even know that that was a boon you could get

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 2:17 PM

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uhm, no? the only ones who are connected to the underworld like that are ||Chaos, Hades and Zag||? Than literally works up there and sometimes for months (caution strong sisy spoiler)||and he was canonically imprisoned by sisy for a long time in the overworld and couldnt die to come back||?
nyx even says (caution win dialogue)||"But it seems you share your father's fate, after all[...] So I now presume. You are bound to this realm by powers greater even than mine." when you die the first time after visiting persephone, meaning that only hades and zag are bound to the realm unlike what she is used to which could mean that her kin is also usually not bound to the realm (see than).|| and if you're far enough along she also talks about ||meeting ares|| meaning she can leave, and she is a cthonic deity like her kin, including than, so when/why would it say they ||cant leave without dying||? most cthonic deities have jobs that concern the overworld (nyx as night, furies as punishment and rage...) thanthink

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 2:19 PM

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autumn radish I just can't get past ||Minotaur and Theseus|| when I don't have ||lifesteal||.....

do you mean Cursed Slash (sword hammer) or Draining Cutter (fists hammer)?

autumn radish Dec 21, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Cursed slash

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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if you feel uncomfortable without a way to regen or survive for a very long time, maybe invest into athena and her legendairy or ||the duo from demeter and athena|| or hermes Quick Recovery

autumn radish Dec 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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How do I invest in Athena?

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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do you have her keepsake?

autumn radish Dec 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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I'm pretty sure I do not have it

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But I use the death defiance keepsake

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Which I really need

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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then if you see her be sure to give her a nectar and invest into the upgrade from the house contractor that gives you the option to change keepsakes (Keepsake Collection, Regional)

autumn radish Dec 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Oh! I'll do that! Thanks :))

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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sure thing!

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btw if you have all 3 DDs from the mirror, it's better to level up the keepsake from the ||asphodel|| npc than continue working with ||skelly's tooth||

polar hull Dec 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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So, I spent all my titan blood on 1 aspect, is there a way to reset to try another aspect?

slender yew Dec 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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have you left the room yet? it doesn't immediately save

polar hull Dec 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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I have

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It seems titan blood is hard to get

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What is the way of getting more titan blood after you got all the ones you can from the first boss?

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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every time you beat the final boss with a specific weapon you get 2 titan blood (one from him, one from tartarus stage boss)
you can later increase ||heat|| and get more

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so since max ||heat|| is ||20|| and you have 6 weapons you can get up to 2x21x6 = 252 titan blood

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else if you need it badly and have no use yet for ||ambrosia|| you can trade it with the wretched broker in the house of hades lounge

autumn radish Dec 21, 2020, 2:41 PM

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subtle granite then if you see her be sure to give her a nectar and invest into the upgrade fro...

Where can I find Athena btw?

opaque geyser Dec 21, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Also, can buy it at the Styx shop for 1,200 Obols

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 2:41 PM

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autumn radish Where can I find Athena btw?

only if her boon is the next chamber reward, you can give a gift to the boon before accepting it

autumn radish Dec 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Oh nice! Thanks!

ancient junco Dec 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Don't worry y'all will beat it eventually just keep playing and you'll notice progress and don't compare with other players for nothing. It's your experience

dusky pecan Dec 21, 2020, 3:52 PM

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pls, help me, how can i get the last heart with aphrodite?

ancient junco Dec 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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dusky pecan pls, help me, how can i get the last heart with aphrodite?

||you'll need to start rommance relationship with Thanatos Meg and Dusa I don't think all of them are needed but im not sure. And then sometime she'll bring up something about you going good with relationships or something like that.||

viral pendant Dec 21, 2020, 3:55 PM

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I got halfway thru phase two of the ||Hades fight||. Now that I have the final DD I should be able to win next time

viral pendant Dec 21, 2020, 3:56 PM

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ancient junco ||you'll need to start rommance relationship with Thanatos Meg and Dusa I don't ...

||you can romance Dusa?||

ancient junco Dec 21, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I puted it in spoiler it was your mistake you pressed it

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lol

viral pendant Dec 21, 2020, 3:57 PM

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ancient junco I puted it in spoiler it was your mistake you pressed it

||I thought it was something about the endgame||

ancient junco Dec 21, 2020, 3:58 PM

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no it wasn't

viral pendant Dec 21, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Well I know now 😂

ancient junco Dec 21, 2020, 3:58 PM

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zaglol

viral pendant Dec 21, 2020, 3:58 PM

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||but yeah, that's cool!||

ancient junco Dec 21, 2020, 3:59 PM

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well it's not that of a big spoiler it would if I told you the outcome

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you'll find out on your own

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I hope...

viral pendant Dec 21, 2020, 4:00 PM

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||"Boy, that's not what we hired Dusa for!"||

ancient junco Dec 21, 2020, 4:00 PM

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lol

stone yoke Dec 21, 2020, 5:02 PM

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hi

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any 1 here

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i have dawnload hades today

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i die

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and go to the home

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how can leave from it?

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pls any 1 can help me to leave from it

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 5:06 PM

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stone yoke pls any 1 can help me to leave from it

you go through the door to the botton left right beside Nyx

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then you go through your room and are in the coutyard there zag says that you can leave through the pink window

stone yoke Dec 21, 2020, 5:16 PM

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oh ok thx pro

leaden whale Dec 21, 2020, 6:48 PM

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I'm trying to get the hang of ||duo boons|| but I'm not entirely sure how they work. They only rarely seem to show up when I have the necessary boons, is there anything I can do to make them more common?

wanton pecan Dec 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

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you can increase your chance of getting them through upgrades in the Mirror of Night in the bedroom!

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might need to unlock more options first

leaden whale Dec 21, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Oh cool! I don't think I have that unlocked yet so I'll have to work on getting more keys

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I get to ||Temple of Styx|| every run now before dying to ||poison and traps|| so hopefully it won't take me too long

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 6:52 PM

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leaden whale I'm trying to get the hang of ||duo boons|| but I'm not entirely sure how they ...

you can also get a higher chance for it with the "yarn of ariadne" from well of charon or "nectar" from the asphodel npc

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 6:53 PM

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leaden whale I get to ||Temple of Styx|| every run now before dying to ||poison and traps|| s...

if you have issues with ||poison|| the most, i would recomment getting the keepsake from the elysium npc

leaden whale Dec 21, 2020, 6:54 PM

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I can definitely work on using all those in the coming runs - thanks

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 6:54 PM

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sure thing

wary raptor Dec 21, 2020, 7:01 PM

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subtle granite if you have issues with ||poison|| the most, i would recomment getting the keeps...

wait really that works?

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 7:02 PM

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yes

wary raptor Dec 21, 2020, 7:02 PM

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wow

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 7:02 PM

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i always used it when i was in danger of getting the satyr miniboss

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now i feel comfortable enough with ||poison|| but it's basically the reason why it's an S-tier keepsake

wary raptor Dec 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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well it's not bad i've tried a few times

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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the issue with trying it regularly is that there arent that many enemies who hit continuously enough to really warrant its 2seconds invincibility

errant bramble Dec 21, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I also like it vs butterfly ball and Elysian boss God stuff

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I didn’t realize it worked on poison

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I may just use that over Acorn now tbh

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I find it easier to dodge last boss than poison lol

thorn spear Dec 21, 2020, 8:55 PM

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gaming

leaden whale Dec 21, 2020, 8:57 PM

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gaming

thorn spear Dec 21, 2020, 9:00 PM

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10/10 name

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 9:16 PM

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gaming and worshipping dio's thighs

autumn radish Dec 21, 2020, 10:01 PM

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https://imgur.com/Pc8JDD6

Imgur

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I don't get the logic of this

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Which one do I choose to get the ||stuff that Cerberus wants||?

leaden whale Dec 21, 2020, 10:02 PM

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it is random

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i think the chance is rolled when you enter one of the chambers

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 10:02 PM

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never in the 1st, the next ones have a probability of 1/4 that you get it

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yes, exactly as holy dio's thighs said

autumn radish Dec 21, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Ahh okay! Thanks!

errant bramble Dec 21, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I like to take Health first if you see it bc then your health is higher for the inevitable fountain.

brave solstice Dec 21, 2020, 10:16 PM

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AHHH I JUST BEAT ||asterius|| HITLESS FOR THE FIRST TIME AHHH

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I feel very powerful

subtle granite Dec 21, 2020, 10:18 PM

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as you should O.O

brave solstice Dec 21, 2020, 10:18 PM

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I have chaos shield ares special on rn

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Plus divine dash so tizozzz

sly vigil Dec 21, 2020, 10:19 PM

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good build

brave solstice Dec 21, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Ok i have to pick between Battle Rage, Urge to Kill, and Blood Frenzy, which one should I pick?

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I fully intend on getting to ||Hades|| this run

sly vigil Dec 21, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Urge to Kill imo

leaden whale Dec 21, 2020, 10:21 PM

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blood frenzy helps quite a bit in the final fight

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urge to kill is p good

sly vigil Dec 21, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Battle Rage on shield is likely to be a waste

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because you block a lot which requires a swing first which usually wastes the Battle Rage charge.

brave solstice Dec 21, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Aight

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I think I’ll go with urge to kill

autumn radish Dec 21, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Are there any ways to equip 2 keepsakes at once?

floral nacelle Dec 21, 2020, 10:25 PM

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No

brave solstice Dec 21, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Nope

floral nacelle Dec 21, 2020, 10:27 PM

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that's why the best keepsakes have some lasting effect

brave solstice Dec 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Yo im tearing ||theseus and asterius|| apart. Ive never done this well before shadesmile

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

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So i finally arrived at the top floor with the rats, are there any tips for that floor as a whole?

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just the enemies

autumn radish Dec 21, 2020, 10:39 PM

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||use the healing fountains if you get poisoned|| @full pendant

brave solstice Dec 21, 2020, 10:45 PM

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||do the mini boss rooms first as well||

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I DID IT

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Aight thanks

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Any other advice?

brave solstice Dec 21, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I havent been there a lot, so I dont have a lot of advice

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:32 PM

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I've been there twice now

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I think?

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It's so annoying lol

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:35 PM

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I reach there and start spamming keys

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But honestly what exactly are you struggling against and what weapon do you use

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I generally do the best with the spear

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:36 PM

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full depot I reach there and start spamming keys

What keys?

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Oh as in buttons?

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Yes lol

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So which mobs are giving you trouble

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I assume you should be able to poke the rats from a safe distance with the spear

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:38 PM

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The small rats arent an issue

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The bigger rats tend to be a bit of a larger issue

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:38 PM

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I meant the big ones

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Cuz the poison gets everywhere

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:38 PM

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You can stay out of their poison range keep stabbing them

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:38 PM

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But the laser crystals are annoying too

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Also is my damage supposed to be way lower all of a sudden in that area?

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Laser crystals are a bit hard, I always go for them first

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No the stuff there is just tanky

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Right okau

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Okay

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:39 PM

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If you have dio's cast it stun locks the crystals

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Whats dios cast?

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Against the big rats reaching attacks, so basically all of spear moves are the best

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Trippy fog

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Ohhh

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:40 PM

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It's probably the best cast in the game

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Maybe

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Ive been having fun with a critical build with artemis tho

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But yeah that fog is really good it seems like

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Arte dio duo increases your chances of crit against hungover foes

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Damn it I accidentally started preaching dio here

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:42 PM

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full depot Damn it I accidentally started preaching dio here

What? XD

leaden whale Dec 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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as you should

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Nevermind that, anyway if you have any aoe attacks those do pretty well up there cause the area is really small

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Dio's thighs

leaden whale Dec 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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therethere

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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So like two dio casts cover the entire room

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Or aphrodite's blast on death just chain reactions against the mice

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Right

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Generally small mice are dealt with

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Unless you meant the big ones too

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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No it doesn't chain on the big ones they're tanky af

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Yeah thought so

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Though you can use poseidon to displace them from the poison pool

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Also small rooms so lot of wall slam

leaden whale Dec 21, 2020, 11:45 PM

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oh yeah, a good trick for laser crystals is to bait them into firing at a corner

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Yeah i've been underappreciating poseidon a lot

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But up there he might be nice

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Poseidon dash is really good on melee weapons

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:46 PM

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I noticed the deflect dash is really good too

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Before i was like

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Eh that wont be that good

leaden whale Dec 21, 2020, 11:46 PM

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athena dash #1 boon

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Now i finally tried it

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Divine dash is like the all purpose dash

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:46 PM

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And i actually like it a lot

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:46 PM

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If ever in doubt go for divine dash

full pendant Dec 21, 2020, 11:47 PM

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It made the annoying spear dude alongside asterius fairly tolerable

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Especially cuz i shot that spear right back at him with it

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But yeah

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Thanks for the help

full depot Dec 21, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Deflecting in general doesn't do much in Styx except against the satyr darts

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Extra iframes are always good tho

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 12:28 AM

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What's the difference between Hades DirectX, Hades Vulkan, and Hades 32 bit?

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 12:45 AM

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What Weapon aspect is great to invest in as my first? I mostly enjoy using the Shield and Bow

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Chaos Shield is pretty damn good

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Got me my first win

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I heard the Chiron bow is also good

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Chaos better than Zeus aspect? Reading the description of it sounds pretty good

flat sierra Dec 22, 2020, 12:47 AM

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yeah Chaos Shield scales really hard with upgrades

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Alright, Cheers

flat sierra Dec 22, 2020, 12:48 AM

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at max level you just fill the room with shields

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Chaos Shield + Ares Special is scary

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Especially if you get a hammer to boost the number of shields you throw during a special

flat sierra Dec 22, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Zagreus Sword, Chaos Shield, Chiron Bow, Demeter Fists, and Zagreus Gun all really like to have upgrades to give you some options to start with

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Max level of Aspects is what exactly?

flat sierra Dec 22, 2020, 12:50 AM

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5

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Cheers

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 12:50 AM

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shadesmile

flat sierra Dec 22, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Zagreus Aspects all only take 1 Blood per level while the others take like 12-14 Blood to max out

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Aye, I've read on the Wiki that to unlock the 4th Aspect you need to invest 5 into non-zag aspects

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5 Titan Blood that is

hasty relic Dec 22, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Hello! Can i ask if anyone knows how to evade/deflect megaera’s purple orb attack? I just downloaded this game last night and while i have managed to get to floor 15 each time since today she still keeps getting the best of me :/

prime fox Dec 22, 2020, 1:29 AM

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athena's boons are always helpful

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you can raise your chances of getting one by giving her nectar

hasty relic Dec 22, 2020, 1:30 AM

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iconic behavior if you ask me but,, i’ve used hermès greater haste and poseidon’s tidal dash

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:0 giving nectar to athena or to megaera? also how does one give nectar to her lol?

prime fox Dec 22, 2020, 1:30 AM

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hasty relic :0 giving nectar to athena or to megaera? also how does one give nectar to her l...

athena

flat sierra Dec 22, 2020, 1:31 AM

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for Meg's orb spam you can just back away and walk back-and-forth between the orbs

hasty relic Dec 22, 2020, 1:31 AM

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ty! i will be on the lookout for her to use her boons ~

flat sierra Dec 22, 2020, 1:32 AM

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they fan out as they travel so you can just weave between them after backing away

prime fox Dec 22, 2020, 1:32 AM

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hasty relic ty! i will be on the lookout for her to use her boons ~

the dash or the special always worked best for me

hasty relic Dec 22, 2020, 1:35 AM

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ty! I always go to chambers contrary to athena or smt else, i’ll also try to be more careful with the waves since i usually don’t 😅~ i’ll try a few more times and see if i can finally get to her!

prime fox Dec 22, 2020, 1:35 AM

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👍

tribal forum Dec 22, 2020, 1:38 AM

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plunderer superior, is it worth it?

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(ping me if theres an answer)

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 2:18 AM

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you'll eventually want to unlock all the work order upgrades anyways

prime fox Dec 22, 2020, 2:19 AM

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hasty relic ty! I always go to chambers contrary to athena or smt else, i’ll also try to be ...

how's it going?

sage jasper Dec 22, 2020, 2:43 AM

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what's the difference between the gold bag and the gold coin for the encounter rewards?>

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or maybe it's not a gold bag. i have one choice that's a brown bag w/ a gold skull on it, and a gold coin. i thought they were both gold?

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for some reason every guide that lists out the door symbols doesn't include the bag

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 2:48 AM

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brown bag is charon's shop

sage jasper Dec 22, 2020, 2:48 AM

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so it is different than the gold currency (obol's or w/e)?

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 2:49 AM

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it's a shop rather than an encounter

sage jasper Dec 22, 2020, 2:49 AM

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oh!

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 2:49 AM

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basically a safe room that u buy stuff in

sage jasper Dec 22, 2020, 2:49 AM

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ok, makes total sense now. thanks 🙂

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 2:49 AM

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npnp

sage jasper Dec 22, 2020, 2:49 AM

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wow can't believe i never put that together lol

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 3:34 AM

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So I had to not use the railgun's main attack for a ||chaos boon||, and ended up having to fight a mini boss with the grenades. It was fun

acoustic veldt Dec 22, 2020, 3:37 AM

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God I had to fight lernie with only grenades once.

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When you get chaos right before a boss fight and you're just 😬

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 3:45 AM

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When chaos boon changes right before a boss fight 🥰

fresh birch Dec 22, 2020, 3:52 AM

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viral pendant So I had to not use the railgun's main attack for a ||chaos boon||, and ended up...

the first time i got the 'you will take a hit if you use your main attack' i legiterally just died
i was actually kinda happy cause a) got the prophecy thing with it and b) i was having a bad run anyway
sorry zag

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Early chaos boons are great, but they're best avoided before bosses, in late game, or if you a room offers a hammer

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I have a good "press square" build going atm

polar hull Dec 22, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Is there a recommended character to increase affinity first?

magic urchin Dec 22, 2020, 4:33 AM

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What are best boons for Rail?

woven eagle Dec 22, 2020, 4:36 AM

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polar hull Is there a recommended character to increase affinity first?

I would do one nectar to each character for now. After that, focus on anything that progresses a storyline

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But you can generally just give nectar whenever it gives you the option

polar hull Dec 22, 2020, 4:37 AM

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@languid pasture I have done 1 per character already, missing last keepsake

woven eagle Dec 22, 2020, 4:37 AM

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The last keepsake comes later in the game, just keep going

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You can give a nectar to bouldy as often as you want and you will get a minor buff for the run by the way, something like 5% more gold or cast damage

polar hull Dec 22, 2020, 4:43 AM

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thank you

magic urchin Dec 22, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Can someone help me with my qn

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What are the best boons for Adamant Rail?

muted latch Dec 22, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Zeus or artemis attack

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Poseidon or ares special

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Try to get rocket bomb from hammer

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If you get triple or cluster with rocket even better

magic urchin Dec 22, 2020, 4:58 AM

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My luck is so bad i have only got only 1 time rocket bomb😭

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Btw thanks man @muted latch

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 5:36 AM

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TFW you have a great build going but the ||tiny vermin|| exists

blazing ridge Dec 22, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Hi, I’ve been trying to get the|| rib companion|| (not sure if that’s a spoiler) and with skelly I’ve been giving him nectar and in the 7th heart (I’ve only given him 6 nectar) there’s a keyhole and the heart has a gold outline. Is that a sign I’ll get the ||companion||? Thanks

flat sierra Dec 22, 2020, 6:39 AM

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The locked heart means you need to clear some event flag to continue the support

blazing ridge Dec 22, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Oh so is that one he offers me the ||quest / challenge?|| sorry this is my first ||companion|| so I’m not rlly sure what to do

flat sierra Dec 22, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Yup

blazing ridge Dec 22, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Ah ok tysm. Have a nice day

magic urchin Dec 22, 2020, 6:50 AM

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is there a condition for that annoying ||tiny vermin||to spawn ?

prime fox Dec 22, 2020, 6:51 AM

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magic urchin is there a condition for that annoying ||tiny vermin||to spawn ?

not that I know of, except for the boss room indicator

placid karma Dec 22, 2020, 6:57 AM

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blazing ridge Ah ok tysm. Have a nice day

you know the requirements to unlock it already? or you want some help on it?

dusk haven Dec 22, 2020, 7:17 AM

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what does this game define 'low health' as?

sly vigil Dec 22, 2020, 7:20 AM

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In what context do you see that?

dusk haven Dec 22, 2020, 7:21 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/dyFtECL.jpeg

Imgur

sly vigil Dec 22, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Oh that just means less than 50%

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The low health is defined by the % given in the boon.

muted scroll Dec 22, 2020, 7:33 AM

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could someoi9ne tell me what ambrosia is used for other than trading

dusk haven Dec 22, 2020, 7:33 AM

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after you give enough necter you can do a favor with that essentially

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to a npc

muted scroll Dec 22, 2020, 7:34 AM

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thanki you

sly vigil Dec 22, 2020, 7:34 AM

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muted scroll could someoi9ne tell me what ambrosia is used for other than trading

You can also upgrade a new mechanic in the game with Ambrosia.

muted scroll Dec 22, 2020, 7:34 AM

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may I ask what it is?

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and how to do such an unlock

floral oasis Dec 22, 2020, 7:35 AM

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probably ask in spoilers

sly vigil Dec 22, 2020, 7:35 AM

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They are called ||Companion||. Just keep playing, they are unlocked naturally.

muted scroll Dec 22, 2020, 7:35 AM

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ok

sly vigil Dec 22, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Keep talking/gifting to people.

muted scroll Dec 22, 2020, 7:35 AM

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sorry, next time i will ask in spoiler

sly vigil Dec 22, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Yeah. Ask here is ok also, as long as it's short.

magic urchin Dec 22, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Or mark spoiler tag by putting || in front and after

blazing ridge Dec 22, 2020, 10:47 AM

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placid karma you know the requirements to unlock it already? or you want some help on it?

No I do know the requirements, sorry I took so sorry to respond but thanks!

placid karma Dec 22, 2020, 10:47 AM

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no prob. have fun!

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 10:57 AM

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So skelly said there's no benefit to further gifting past gift 1, is that true?

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 11:00 AM

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gift 1 is the only one to give you a keepsake

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there are however other benefits of forging bonds that arent materialistic

opaque geyser Dec 22, 2020, 11:10 AM

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That, plus ||companions - summons||

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Do ||the pots that Hades spawns continually damage you when you break them or is it just one damage tick and then you need to mash a button to escape them?||

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 12:21 PM

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just once

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you can trigger them before they can do damage if you have athenas dash for example and just dash through em

thorny bobcat Dec 22, 2020, 12:40 PM

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it's also ||a temporary stun so you don't have to mash anything to escape unlike the gorgon orbs||

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oh and ||the shockwaves from the skulls Hades shoots out will also break the pots once they explode||

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 12:46 PM

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thorny bobcat it's also ||a temporary stun so you don't have to mash anything to escape unlike...

Well that made for painful reading. I could have just stayed still and waited ||for the beams to finish as I was behind one of the rocks and safe|| always next time I guess!

thorny bobcat Dec 22, 2020, 12:47 PM

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you live and you learn lol

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took me like 10 tries before I got everything down about that fight

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 12:49 PM

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My last two fights I've got it down to the final 33% and choked it, feels good to actually get out of ||Temple of Styx|| without being on a sliver of health lol

peak vale Dec 22, 2020, 1:00 PM

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holy crap why is the 3rd boss so tankyyy

silk swift Dec 22, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Not as tanky as the sword saint

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Hesitation is defeat!

peak vale Dec 22, 2020, 1:24 PM

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im not kidding i think was hitting 500 dmg crits with stygius special more or less regularly and it still took me a fair amount of time to kill the bull atleast 😭

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3rd stage as a whole feels like a big step up in challenge fr

silk swift Dec 22, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Yeh it is

sacred mason Dec 22, 2020, 1:27 PM

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3rd stage as in the bull

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or god forsaken elysion final fight

muted latch Dec 22, 2020, 1:34 PM

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normal boss 3 have very clean pattern and preparation on his attack

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granted if you can handle the spear guy

terse mortar Dec 22, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Hello guys,How do I get the 5th and 6th weapon?

blazing ridge Dec 22, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Maybe not my place to speak as I’m also fairly new but you have to unlock all 4 weapons and do a run with each, then the ||gauntlets|| will be offered

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 1:38 PM

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they will apear after you got all 4 weapons and went on another run

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you dont have to run with all 4, but you need them unlocked for sure

terse mortar Dec 22, 2020, 1:38 PM

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k

blazing ridge Dec 22, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Oh sorry, also am I allowed to help with questions even tho I’m new? Like if I know the answer ofc

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 1:39 PM

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after getting all 4 and going out the next time you die the 5th weapon will be there

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 1:39 PM

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blazing ridge Oh sorry, also am I allowed to help with questions even tho I’m new? Like if I k...

of course

blazing ridge Dec 22, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Ah tysm

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 1:39 PM

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thank you for also helping :)

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it's nice to see helpful people everywhere gosh this server is great

blazing ridge Dec 22, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Lmao ikr!!! With such a big community I would never have expected to have such a wholesome one (especially after coming from a server like the enter the gungeon one)

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 1:45 PM

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i dont even want to ask i know how bigger communities usually are o.o
we're usually wholesome and most channels are really encouraging to ask and to also help so, why not :)

karmic hamlet Dec 22, 2020, 1:51 PM

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are there any +% bonuses that are multiplicative instead of additive?
and if i "give up" mid way through a run do i keep everything that i've earnt or does it count as if i hadn't done the run?

placid karma Dec 22, 2020, 2:03 PM

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karmic hamlet are there any +% bonuses that are multiplicative instead of additive? and if i "...

i think damage reduction is multiplicative. not sure tho.
it counts as if you didnt run, so you lose the darkness and such.

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i suggest that if you want to give up the run, just let zag die instead so that you can keep everything you earned

karmic hamlet Dec 22, 2020, 2:06 PM

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ok cool, im mid way through an awful run atm with the shield and i was about to do that but i just wanted to check

placid karma Dec 22, 2020, 2:07 PM

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no prob. letting go of bad runs also lets you talk to the characters more and progress their story, so its still a win

gray haven Dec 22, 2020, 2:09 PM

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I like to just keep going and get more practice in. squirtnya

karmic hamlet Dec 22, 2020, 2:09 PM

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yea thats true, plus once i got halfway through asphodel i realised that this run was awful (really bad rng on both hammers and boons am doing barely any damage) i started going for boons that i don't usually pick just to fulfil prophecies

flat dock Dec 22, 2020, 2:55 PM

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do people generally use m+kb or controller?

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are there certain weapons that are better for each?

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 2:56 PM

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it's pretty much just preference

placid karma Dec 22, 2020, 2:56 PM

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its a preference thing imo. i use mkb cause controllers tend to hurt my thumbs more

flat dock Dec 22, 2020, 2:57 PM

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cool, good to know

peak vale Dec 22, 2020, 3:00 PM

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mashing X on my xb1 controller feels like im driving my thumb nail into my skin shadesmile

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 3:09 PM

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What are the best uses for diamonds and ambrosia?

placid karma Dec 22, 2020, 3:11 PM

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ambrosia - || advance relationships past the nectar phase & level up companions||

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 3:13 PM

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So it's not that smart to use it in trade for other items?

old escarp Dec 22, 2020, 3:16 PM

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That's up to you, you can always get more of a resource later

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 3:16 PM

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I guess so

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As for diamonds? What do you recommended i use those on?

old escarp Dec 22, 2020, 3:16 PM

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There are quite a few Contractor items that cost diamonds

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Yes

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And other than those?

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Or is that really the preferred use

old escarp Dec 22, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Music shadethumbsup

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Alright

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I think you can use those in trade too but

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Yeah

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Okay thanks

old escarp Dec 22, 2020, 3:19 PM

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I wouldn't trade diamonds until you've gotten all the contractor work order items, as some of them don't unlock until later and cost a fair amount. As with everything in Hades, though, do what feels right to you! It's your own experience with the game that matters

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Alright thanks

peak vale Dec 22, 2020, 3:50 PM

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gods when you dont choose them: 😡

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gods after the battle: 🥺

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 3:51 PM

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haha true. Except Artemis

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she's stil mad lol

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 4:00 PM

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She is just tsun tsun

hasty relic Dec 22, 2020, 4:09 PM

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prime fox how's it going?

sorry for the very late reply! it took me a few more tries to get past her but i finally did it!! Ranged attacks work better and what you said about Athena worked wonders! I passed out as soon as i defeated her s: but so far now i can reach chamber 5 of asphodel

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thank you so much for your help!!! :0

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 4:32 PM

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I've been keeping hold of my nectar to try and get all the keepsakes but there's one left and I just can't seem to find the way to get it. Is it ||something I'll get after a successful escape attempt||?

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:33 PM

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@leaden whale ||The last one in the bottom row?||

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 4:33 PM

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toxic quail <@456226577798135808> ||The last one in the bottom row?||

Yes, that's the one

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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||Yes, you have to escape multiple times, not sure exactly how many||

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Cool, I can start gifting nectar to everyone now then! Thank you

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Go forth and be the life of the party

velvet zenith Dec 22, 2020, 4:36 PM

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what weapon is a good starting weapon?

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Any weapon is viable. I would say bow is a good safe way to learn enemy patterns without getting punished too hard.

velvet zenith Dec 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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ok thanks!! 😄

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Idk if bow is good for new players

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I'd genuinely recommend using whatever has the darkness buff. I've been doing that, it's really fun and lets you fill out the mirror quicker

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Many newer people seen to love spear though

upbeat oracle Dec 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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it really just depends on your play style! for me the shield was a good starting weapon as i prefer a more aggressive playstyle ,,

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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@velvet zenith I would encourage you to take Athena boons when you're starting out. Specifically Divine Dash.

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Or fists with Athena attack.

velvet zenith Dec 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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ok

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:38 PM

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You should spoiler that name, but definitely.

velvet zenith Dec 22, 2020, 4:38 PM

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ok thanks!!

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I mean in Tartarus usually yes. But not always. No

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 4:38 PM

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It's a free room

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I would say yes

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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22 health is free?

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Si

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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It saves time

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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If you know you're going to carry your curse into a boss fight and you're worried about it, maybe don't go.

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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This is new player discussion. Not speed running

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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The only time I'd be against going into one is if I have only 22 hp

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Time is irrelevant

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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well, fair

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I was thinking of|| td and heat||

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Oops spoiler that

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if you have a lot of health, i don't see why not

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Well like, if you don’t have a Strike boon and your choice is Aphrodite or Chaos, I’m taking Aphro. Maybe that’s wrong

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I think Tartarus for sure, but you could argue that taking it in the 3rd biome isn't worth it.

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Well, boon over chaos for sure

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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If you have no ||rerolls|| it definitely is a risk.

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Sure if I see a boon that I need for my build I'll always go for the boon

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Someone said that they should always go for chaos. I was disagreeing with the “always”

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That’s all

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I've died a few times to bosses because of ||Chaos curses||

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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It's a bit hard to set priorities in a roguelite where decisions change from run to run

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You always want to take x except for sometimes when you don't

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:43 PM

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errant bramble Someone said that they should always go for chaos. I was disagreeing with the “a...

You're right. Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Exactly. Taking the ||Chaos||room is just the easy path

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Would ||Chaos|| be dark side or light side... thanthink

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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I think it is a ||down||side which turns into ||up||side later

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ajfingerguns

toxic quail Dec 22, 2020, 4:48 PM

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I feel you

peak vale Dec 22, 2020, 5:09 PM

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i once got|| 3 light of ixion|| while running with ||chaos egg|| shadesmile

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Yoo just beat the final encounter in 20 escape attempts, and 2 fights with the boss himself

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Feeling pretty proud of that

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Congrats!

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Thanks

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Idk if i should throw that in here but eh

old escarp Dec 22, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Congrats!

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Thanks!

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 5:40 PM

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why not

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accomplishing one thing after another is one more thing to keep you in the game

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It feels rly good!

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and even after 164 hours I've finished the story and all the achievements but there is still stuff to do so it keeps there

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Right

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This run i also learned that artemis' call is really good

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 5:45 PM

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EH

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Eh?

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 5:48 PM

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eh

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Eh.

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Look it's good but there are some calls that are so much better

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Such as?

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Aphro Posseidon

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Ares IMO

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Athena but depending on the weapon

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I dont entirely know what those do tbh

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Tbh i just found the high single target damage useful

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 5:50 PM

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but I could say it's better than Zeus and Dio (depends on weapon again but Artemis is better most of the time)

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Athena call is busted

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Cuz usually it decimated a section of the boss's health

opaque geyser Dec 22, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Really? I much prefer Zeus and Dio calls

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 5:50 PM

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it's basically just "give me invincibility lol"

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Zeus and Dio? I like them on fists that's for sure

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 5:50 PM

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so u can go stupid for 2 seconds

thorny bobcat Dec 22, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Artemis' call is pretty good idk

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I find it very useful

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 5:51 PM

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I have too little experience with other calls

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But i found it pretty nice

opaque geyser Dec 22, 2020, 5:51 PM

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I find its damage kinda low except at full charge, and its really just a boss killer

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 5:52 PM

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well it's pretty much about preference but I think Aphro and Posseidon are better for most of the players

opaque geyser Dec 22, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Whereas others excl. Aphro help you more in rooms

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Poseidon call is cool too

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that's also "give me invincibility" and it does good damage

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Athena is also situational. On fists you want to continue doing your combo so Posseidon would kinda ruin it

thorny bobcat Dec 22, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I tend to not use calls except for bosses and mini-bosses anyway so it works for me

pure inlet Dec 22, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Is there anything special I need to do get the skeletal lure and the flame wheels release from the well of Charon? They’re the only two I’m missing now and I haven’t seen them since I was given the list.

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 5:53 PM

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While Athena is just invincibility while keep attking

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 5:53 PM

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they'll show up eventually

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flame wheels release is like uber rare

pure inlet Dec 22, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Damn, alright

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I’ll keep checking every time then! Does it only appear in Elysium?

thorny bobcat Dec 22, 2020, 5:55 PM

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yeah since the enemy type is Elysium exclusive

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it's probably random but I find skeletal lures more often in the well between two floors usually

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 5:56 PM

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getting skeletal lure right before u go into a chaos gate has to be the best feeling in this game

thorny bobcat Dec 22, 2020, 5:56 PM

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can't relate 😔

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the only fish I'm missing from the codex is the legendary one in Chaos

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Bruhhh I just had a perfect run and I messed it up

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 5:57 PM

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only fish I'm missing is the common one from chaos lmao

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 5:57 PM

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I had the cursed blade thing

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Revenge damage

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And crush shot to make the weak

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And upped attack damage from chaos

pure inlet Dec 22, 2020, 5:58 PM

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First time with the rod I found a fish in chaos and inevitably didn’t catch it and I still haven’t seen one since.

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F

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 5:58 PM

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But then I died to those soldiers in Elysian

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Or whatever it’s called

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Btw how do you even unlock the fishing rod

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 5:59 PM

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house contractor upgrade

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Which one

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 5:59 PM

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The one that says fishing Rod

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😀

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Oh lol I haven’t gotten it yet

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Not kidding lol

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Does it cost diamonds?

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Yeah just keep playing

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Yes

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Damn it

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 6:00 PM

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It’s worth it tho

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 6:00 PM

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How many

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 6:00 PM

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It pays for itself

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Very easily

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Yeah ik

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I don’t remember how many. I want to say 3’or 4

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Oof

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I’ve only beaten hydra once

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And I used that on Orpheus

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That was my last run actually

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 6:01 PM

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You’ll get there.

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Aight

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Rewards come faster after your first clear

thorny bobcat Dec 22, 2020, 6:01 PM

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yeahh just grind it out it can take a while

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 6:01 PM

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I thought I had a pretty good run going last time

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But those spear soldier things are pretty bulky

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 6:02 PM

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it's 2 diamonds iirc

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nvm it's just 1

dusty hawk Dec 22, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Oh cool

sage jasper Dec 22, 2020, 6:24 PM

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what's the door reward that is a grey stone with a white ! on it? has some gens on it as well

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Open it

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And find out

sacred patio Dec 22, 2020, 6:25 PM

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@sage jasper that is the npc room, it changes depending on which level/floor you are on

sage jasper Dec 22, 2020, 6:26 PM

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thanks!

sacred patio Dec 22, 2020, 6:26 PM

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not gonna spoil anything, but its a "safe" room

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Hey uh, is there anyway to know how many fish you caught
Im doing that fish prophecy

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 7:23 PM

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I think the only way to know is by entries. most of the commons finish their entries when you caught 3 and the rest 2 I think

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Mk

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 7:23 PM

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If you get the aquarium

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For the lounge

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You can check there

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Alright

forest furnace Dec 22, 2020, 7:24 PM

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It's pricy ...

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:24 PM

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How much?

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I was planning on collecting things anyways

ancient junco Dec 22, 2020, 7:24 PM

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oh I didn't know that's what the aquarium did but I have it lol

autumn depot Dec 22, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Is there anything that increases the chance of finding a ||satyr sack||? My friend is saying that it's less likely to appear in rooms with boons.

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Is that the item that ||lets you pass the doge?||

autumn depot Dec 22, 2020, 7:31 PM

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yes

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 7:31 PM

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||I think you gotta go thru doors with a skull on them||

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||You can go thru others, but only do so if you wanna power up||

autumn depot Dec 22, 2020, 7:32 PM

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||those are the miniboss rooms, they give you doubble money and 2 levels if it's a pom||

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:32 PM

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||The first time you go through a skull door. It will be a boss. Second time will end with the sack||

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 7:33 PM

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||I've only ever found the sacks in those rooms||

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 7:33 PM

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there is nothing to increase the chance, you always know that the first one is never gonna be it ||this is why you take the skull ones first, they are easier and faster|| the next rooms each have a random chance to be it

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 7:33 PM

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||btw of it's the tiny vermin, you might as well kiss the run goodbye XD||

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:33 PM

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||Do the skull doors first, and then do the other ones||

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 7:33 PM

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brave solstice ||The first time you go through a skull door. It will be a boss. Second time wil...

not guaranteed!

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Oh weird. It usually happens for me

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Ig I got consistent

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 7:34 PM

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the ||satyr sax|| rng is on your side then

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Nice

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Any good way to cheese the ||tiny vermin?|| If I have to fight the thing I never make it further than a couple more rooms

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No pun intended BTW

placid snow Dec 22, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Any tips on the || elysium 2 bosses || ?

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Oof

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:36 PM

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||focus on asterius first||

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 7:36 PM

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placid snow Any tips on the || elysium 2 bosses || ?

||focus minotaur first. Killing him will make your life easier later||

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:36 PM

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||You want to get rid of him first, because once theasus starts summoning god powers the fight will get super chaotic||

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 7:36 PM

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@placid snow ||dodge the Minotaur double swing then dash behind him when he jumps. Spear just wait and dodge it easy then dive in and attack once or twice and run away. Repeat. Each God summon has a specific pattern they ult in and you can learn those.||

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 7:37 PM

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everybody likes to kill ||asterius|| first huehuehue

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Off topic:
As a fan of the band Disturbed, I think the guitar stylings of the ost sound much alike. I mean the only thing missing is David's voice

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 7:38 PM

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i am looking forward to the days when yall dont have to focus him ;)

placid snow Dec 22, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Thanks for tips fam

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 7:38 PM

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so satisfying

placid snow Dec 22, 2020, 7:38 PM

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DionysusSticker

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Anyway, my break is over. Time to get back to work

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 7:38 PM

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we got a new dio simp! PRAISE THE LORD DIO

placid snow Dec 22, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Best God

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Cheerful

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 7:39 PM

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I be back in three hours or so

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 7:40 PM

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dont die ;-;

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Damn I just fought ||Charon|| for the first time ||in tarterus so I could see what he was like first and so i didnt loose much progress|| and I actually did pretty well for only having two boons. ||Got em to half health||

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 7:42 PM

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hehehe, ||charon|| go BONK

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:42 PM

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The range dusa

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 7:42 PM

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the power dusa

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:42 PM

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scary

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 7:43 PM

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his attacks are un-deflectable dusa

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 7:43 PM

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dusa

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 7:43 PM

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||EM5|| = ||charon goes mad and no more shops||

flat sierra Dec 22, 2020, 7:55 PM

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I like how one of the hardest hitting attacks in the whole game is ||just a swole-ass chauffeur clocking you with an oar cuz he got dem daily GAINS||

old escarp Dec 22, 2020, 8:14 PM

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subtle granite ||EM5|| = ||charon goes mad and no more shops||

||EM5 is Falcon Ron and his dad join and it becomes the Cha-Ron fight ron CharonSticker ||

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 8:20 PM

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||em5 is fishing we all know this||

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Damn it Im trying to get legendary and duo boons for the prophecies and of course two that I need show up shadedisgruntled

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At the same time

polar hull Dec 22, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Just made it for the first time 🙂

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 8:25 PM

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shadeohboy

polar hull Dec 22, 2020, 8:25 PM

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28th run

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Should I get splitting bolt or smouldering air?

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I have Zeus’ Aid rn

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About to go up against ||theasus||

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I think Im gonna take splitting bolt just cause I never get legendaries and I dont want to miss it

karmic hamlet Dec 22, 2020, 8:29 PM

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splitting bolt is crazy good with the zeus attack on a fast weapon

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Problem is that I dont have any zeus boons on anything other than Aid
Never even got offered Zeus attack or special shadedisgruntled

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Whatever I beat them. We’re all good shadesmile

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||What the I never expected to reach Hades this run and now I beat his first phase with more than half health and no death defiances used what||

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AND I BEAT IT YAYA

upbeat oracle Dec 22, 2020, 8:43 PM

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nice!!

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Chaos Shield with Aphro Special and Ares Attack. I had Zeus Special with lots of boons to boost the power of it

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And I got a new record shadesmile

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:09 PM

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old escarp ||EM5 is Falcon Ron and his dad join and it becomes the Cha-Ron fight <:ron:4590...

that would be so beautiful, ngl

hasty relic Dec 22, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Finally managed to go beyond chamber 5 of asphodel! only to be crushed by || the bone hydra|| shadegrief can anyone recommend what is like, the best weapon to use against it?

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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I like Shield

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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subtle granite dont die ;-;

I live

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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:D

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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But I like Shield for everything so maybe Im not the best judge of that squirtheh

hasty relic Dec 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Also what exactly are duo boons?

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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welcome back!!!

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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And I got an assignment

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I'm out

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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hasty relic Also what _exactly_ are duo boons?

two gods giving their power at once

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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bods

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:18 PM

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D:

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 9:18 PM

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You need certain boons from two gods in order to activate the chance for a duo boon

hasty relic Dec 22, 2020, 9:18 PM

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funnily enough ive been using the shield ~~ that one and the bow

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Epic

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 9:19 PM

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I can knock it out quick

hasty relic Dec 22, 2020, 9:19 PM

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ooo,,, i get it now. I’ve had a few show when picking zeus and mostly everyone but i never used them because i didn’t understand what they do 😅

errant bramble Dec 22, 2020, 9:20 PM

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You never used duo boons despite being offered them?

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:20 PM

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once you see a duo boon you get a codex upgrade from house contractor and can see inbetween runs what they do

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 9:20 PM

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^

hasty relic Dec 22, 2020, 9:20 PM

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errant bramble You never used duo boons despite being offered them?

yeah :/

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:20 PM

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they are pretty much all just great

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 9:20 PM

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You can also check the wiki if you want to

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:21 PM

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yeah but the wiki has too many spoilers if you want your eyes to stay fresh; and it is sometimes wrong

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i'd really recommend the codex for that

hasty relic Dec 22, 2020, 9:21 PM

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i’ve been avoiding it since i know that i won’t be able to stop reading and will spoil myself shadeembarassed

wild pike Dec 22, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Hiii!! Im new to the game shadesmile tiktok convinced me lol shadeembarassed zaglol

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:43 PM

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welcome, hope you enjoy your stay!

wild pike Dec 22, 2020, 9:44 PM

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thank you ! squirtnya

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:44 PM

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may the gods grant you swift and safe runs :)

wild pike Dec 22, 2020, 9:44 PM

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friendly aww ty 🥺

fluid crown Dec 22, 2020, 9:51 PM

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the mirror of the night upgrades are permanent?

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:51 PM

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yes

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if you mean in the sense of you odnt have to pay them again and again

fluid crown Dec 22, 2020, 9:52 PM

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like if i take an upgrade and i die i still have it right?

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 9:52 PM

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ye

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:52 PM

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you can however get your darkness from it back later if you wish to change the upgrade

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yes

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 9:52 PM

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that would be an interesting challenge though

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 9:54 PM

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q-q

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every time you die you need to regain 10k darkness?

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Just refund the mirror everytime you die

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5head

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 10:08 PM

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how will you know you will die next round

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 10:08 PM

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You die every round duh

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 10:09 PM

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yeah but if you only get the mirror reset if you die in the run and not after the endboss

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what a life

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 10:11 PM

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assuming ur playing on already cleared bounties you get at least 470 darkness per run

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Just reset before the run everytime so you never lose darkness

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You're only losing mirror darkness not darkness you own dusa

stone reef Dec 22, 2020, 10:14 PM

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how do i get the dialogue for companion fidi? done all the steps

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 10:15 PM

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with 470 darkness, I'd go for
Shadow Presence 5 (100)
Cthonhic Vitality 3 (70)
Death Defiance 1 (30)
Greater Reflex (50)
Boiling Blood 2 (40)
Infernal Soul 2 (100)
Family Favorite 1 (50)

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you don't have enough for stubborn defiance or a second dd

fluid crown Dec 22, 2020, 10:16 PM

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the music of this game is pretty good

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and since im greek the story is quite interesting as well xD

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 10:17 PM

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or just ignore infernal soul and get a bit less in shadow presence and boilign blood and get SD instead of DD

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 10:17 PM

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fluid crown the music of this game is pretty good

darren korb is god

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 10:17 PM

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u cant get sd

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its 600

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 10:17 PM

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How much is ps

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 10:17 PM

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and DD 2 is 500

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also 50 myth

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so it's personal preference there

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Ps has two levels

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 10:18 PM

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wait wasnt SD 200

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 10:18 PM

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For some reason i'm terrible at the final encounter with the spear

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Like

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 10:18 PM

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SD is 600

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 10:18 PM

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The bow was easy peasy

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But with the spear? Nah

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 10:18 PM

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ps is 50/500, ff is 50/150

stone reef Dec 22, 2020, 10:18 PM

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hera bow is pog

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 10:18 PM

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ahh i forget what sd costs like

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cause no use for it

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feelsbadman

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 10:19 PM

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completely maxing out the mirror is like the best feeling

grizzled narwhal Dec 22, 2020, 10:19 PM

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hi yall! if i’ve gained some damage/dodge % from the pierced butterfly/lambent plume, will i lose those buffs if i switch out the keepsake?

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Yes

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 10:19 PM

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until you realize how much darkness you're missing out on for the cosmetics

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 10:19 PM

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They're keepsakes you keep for the entire run

grizzled narwhal Dec 22, 2020, 10:20 PM

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oki thx myth

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I haven't bought a single cosmetic

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 10:21 PM

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you are missing out

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Si

stone reef Dec 22, 2020, 10:22 PM

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that a spoiler?

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 10:22 PM

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It's not a npc you get until credits

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I don't think I'm missing out

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 10:22 PM

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and the ||ressource manager||

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dont forget bowtie-shade my mans

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I like the way the game looks already

subtle granite Dec 22, 2020, 10:22 PM

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i always forget which channel i'm in

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Hence the reminder :p

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We need a spoiler discussion, where we can pretend everyone already knows everything

leaden whale Dec 22, 2020, 10:24 PM

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thats basically just #h1-builds-and-combat

full depot Dec 22, 2020, 10:27 PM

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No u

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Lmao ||Dionysus wants to prank Orpheus||

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 10:43 PM

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I'm back for thirty minutes

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So...||tiny rodent||, what's the trick to beating that little terror?

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Those ||lil rats?||

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Generally charged spins with the spear work for me

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Or the bow special

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Depending on your dash or cast, i suppose those could work

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 10:51 PM

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The ||tiny vermin, that spawns giant vermin and poisons you||

hybrid gorge Dec 22, 2020, 10:51 PM

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a dash with damage also takes care of the rats. athena/poseidon take your pick

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Whenever I run into it, the run is considered over

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The thing is a bullet sponge too

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Generally i dash like mad or try to wallclip

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But i'm no expert

hybrid gorge Dec 22, 2020, 10:52 PM

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yeah tiny vermin can be annoying at beginning. when I unlocked chiron bow it was so good against it.

full pendant Dec 22, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Tho if i can deal with it without even having to move

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I do that instead

viral pendant Dec 22, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I saw a vid where zag just ||dashes across the pit and mag dumps on the rat||

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||didn't summon a thing||

brave solstice Dec 22, 2020, 11:22 PM

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I was about to die to ||theasus|| but ||detemer’s|| winter harvest was like “Not today”

full pendant Dec 23, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Saw a vid where zag literally stood still and killed the final encounter

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Pretty cool

pastel cipher Dec 23, 2020, 12:31 AM

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the afk build, that's pretty nuts

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:33 AM

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How does that work

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Vengeance damage?

peak vale Dec 23, 2020, 12:37 AM

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does malphon Concentrated Knucle (+5 per consecutive attack) have a cap?

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 12:38 AM

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hey friends, quick question. Fairly new player, only played for 20 hours so far

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i've been chasing this duo boon "Merciful End" and I managed to get the two required perks

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but it didn't offer the duo boon to me :/

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i'm a little confused as to how to combine the two into a duo boon

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Well there's a percentage chance that th boon will be offered by one of the gods

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It's not guaranteed

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 12:38 AM

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aah i see

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i just need to have the requisite boons already t o get the duo boon offered?

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:39 AM

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For increasing your odds, make sure to fill all your main boon slots

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Yes if you have prerequisites it will be offered

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 12:39 AM

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ok ty vm

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:39 AM

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So once you get the two and get all your main slots filled aggressively look for ares and Athena

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 12:39 AM

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i'm still not sure when ipcking if the boon is a main boon or if it will be placed in the 2nd or 3rd boon column

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 12:40 AM

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full depot So once you get the two and get all your main slots filled aggressively look for...

damn i have one more main boon slot to fill

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ok will keep trying

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:40 AM

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It's a supplementary boon, won't come into your main slot

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No duo boons take main slots

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Or legendary either for that matter

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 12:40 AM

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listen Myth, i'm feeling good about this run. Its going the best any run has ever gone

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i'm going to need you to send me some positive vibes

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:40 AM

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If you have a main slot empty there's a higher chance that they'll give you a boon for that slot

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Oh good luck what weapon are you on?

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Chaos Aegis

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Also what's your dash?

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 12:41 AM

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divine dash

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and ares special for doom

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so if i understand this correctly

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i will apply doom

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and then dash

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Oh awesome you're all set then

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 12:41 AM

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and it will activate merciful end

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right?

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Yes

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 12:42 AM

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dude

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this is it

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this is it then. i'm getting that hades booty tonight

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:42 AM

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I prefer having ares on attack for it personally cause dash strikes

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But good luck, also bear in mind miniboss rooms have higher chance of rarer boons to appear

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 12:42 AM

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i see

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:42 AM

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So if you see ares or Athena in one, definitely get it

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 12:43 AM

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usually in games with builds and items and such, i youtube it

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but this game so far i've relied mainly on codex

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until now when i couldn't figure out how to make boons into duo boon

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but ty vm man

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i'll come back here and tell you how it went

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Sure have fun

peak vale Dec 23, 2020, 12:44 AM

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man poseidon knockback is the stuff

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its fun kicking around stuff back a mile away

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Ikr just run around in Styx crashing people into walls

acoustic veldt Dec 23, 2020, 12:57 AM

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There's also a mirror ability that can increase your chance for legendaries and duos by x%

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ngl my first dad defeat was with the shield and parking myself in the corner and blocking everything 😂

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 1:00 AM

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My first one was rail

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But also prolly call him final boss in this channel cause that's a spoiler for new player

forest thistle Dec 23, 2020, 1:11 AM

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my bad

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and i did not get the final boss

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enough for today

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 1:47 AM

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3 wins in one day shadesmile Proud of myself

peak vale Dec 23, 2020, 1:53 AM

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cant get past elysium sadge 😔

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 1:53 AM

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😔

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 2:06 AM

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what went wrong @forest thistle

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Does hades hold court with the shades sometimes? He keeps listening to their problems only to rudely tell them that their claim is denied

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What a jerk

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Oh, he granted one!

lusty jackal Dec 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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nice

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Spoilers, bro

lusty jackal Dec 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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WHOOPS

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sorry i wasn't thinking

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I'm just watching him denying claims in his house

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Dont know what that was about

lusty jackal Dec 23, 2020, 2:33 AM

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deleted bc it was kind of a pointless message anyway

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you're experiencing the real game

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I think not. Denied

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 2:48 AM

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AH I BEAT THE FINAL BOSS WITHOUT USING ANY DEATH DEFIANCES FOR THE FIRST TIME

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LETS GOOOO

woeful lake Dec 23, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Died again with the blade 😑 is it worth ||leveling up the non-Zagreus aspects? ||Would that help?

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||Crit chance seems great but so much blood required- I’m barely making it through heat level 1. ||Only beaten final boss with the bow and shield so far.

leaden whale Dec 23, 2020, 2:58 AM

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nemesis is good at level 1

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 3:06 AM

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the swordliker speaks the truth

woeful lake Dec 23, 2020, 3:09 AM

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||Still died multiple times with level 1 which is why I’m wondering if it’s worth spending the blood to level it up more|| - I’m just terrible with the short range weapons. I keep dodging into traps and ||lava|| 😑

leaden whale Dec 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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the key is to spam dash attack

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nemesis loves artemis too

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getting her boon on attack basically gives you max level nemesis

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 3:11 AM

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woeful lake ||Still died multiple times with level 1 which is why I’m wondering if it’s wort...

you will get better at it, the rooms will soon feel familiar and the traps will stop being an issue

woeful lake Dec 23, 2020, 3:12 AM

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I’ll try a ||spear point|| run 🤔

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That’s a good tip thanks

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 3:13 AM

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anyways leveing up non zag sword aspects gives you the possibility of unlocking its hidden which you will probably find beautiful

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a good sword tactic for people uncomfortable with the close range is: dash through the enemies and backstab alot. not only does it give bonus damage but since hits stun the enemies you will be pretty much shielded from the closest attacker
if you are scared of not being able to kill multiple enemies fast enough try the zeus cast with it at first

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 3:32 AM

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Third time against the big boss. Here goes...

floral nacelle Dec 23, 2020, 3:32 AM

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If you just suck at sword try Poseidon sword

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Sure, levelling it up increases base damage, but either way, you still dislodge casts with special

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So just play it as a cast weapon

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 3:33 AM

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viral pendant Third time against the big boss. Here goes...

good luck ;-;

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Got em

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 3:47 AM

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:D

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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By the time I unlocked ||prophecies||, the gem cost paid for itself

pulsar thistle Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Does passing through Charon's shop, Chaos, or Special npc chambers delay the journey to the final boss's by being a extra chamber, or are they shortcuts?

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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shortcuts

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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I dont think so

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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hence why speedrunners always use em

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Aight

pulsar thistle Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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hehe speed go brr

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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i watch too many speedrunners

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Hermes go brrrrrr

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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it's insane

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i get asphodel in 10mins and they are done with the whole run by 7mins

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Me: ah yes. This 30 minute run is ex-

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Speedrunners: Ive beaten it three times

edgy tartan Dec 23, 2020, 4:14 AM

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viral pendant Does hades hold court with the shades sometimes? He keeps listening to their pro...

He occasionally, rarely grants requests!!

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:14 AM

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me: yey my first sub 20 run, such speed
any speedrunner: you wanna TALK ABOUT SPEED

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:14 AM

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There are a couple speedruns where the file is brand new

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:14 AM

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pain

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:14 AM

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fresh file?

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i love those runs

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am training for it myself and got pretty far in 1h :D

pulsar thistle Dec 23, 2020, 4:14 AM

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subtle granite am training for it myself and got pretty far in 1h :D

i fear you

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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almost got a sub 30 run ._.

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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pulsar thistle i fear you

same

pulsar thistle Dec 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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like bruh fresh files are wild

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KUDHUYDHYIDI{

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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yes they are

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Fresh file speedruns scare me
They exude so much raw power and energy

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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:)

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but the boons are halfway scripted

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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True

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:15 AM

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so it's like you have more knowledge than power

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:16 AM

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And then you just practice with the scripted boons

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Getting Athena first is actually pretty freaking good

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:16 AM

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yes

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it sucks a bit for sword tho imo

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Yeah

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:16 AM

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and that you cant get that many gods

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like zeus would be fire

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:17 AM

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It's humbling to see someone do a run with no upgrades at all (save for boons) in 25 minutes of real time with a sword, whereas I had an upgraded bow, like 2k darkness in upgrades, and it took me over 50 min in game time

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:17 AM

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i think even hermes and hammer are locked in the fresh run speedruns

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:17 AM

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I sorta want to get into Hades speedrunning once i get good at the game

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:17 AM

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the discord is a scary place

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they all have sub 10 runs for each weapon

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:18 AM

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I wanted to get into another game’s speedrunning but I shall get to it another day bouldy

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Scary

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:18 AM

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I think fresh file runs limit the boons available, so it's easier to have a build in mind from the start

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Yeah

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:18 AM

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only if you do fresh run

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you can also do fresh file with gathering period

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:19 AM

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If it's not fresh, more flexibility is needed

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:19 AM

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yes

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or more knowledge of what you need

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fantastic teacher of that is vorime

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:19 AM

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I think I won due to getting a good god call

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:19 AM

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ah yeah you dont get calls in fresh file runs :-:

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Rip

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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the only thing i miss ||together with demeter||

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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And I got a DD replenished by a boon

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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athena is bae for lategame when you really feel desperate and patty isnt there

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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When ur about to die to the final boss but you have Winter Harvest: gilmanlove

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:21 AM

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athenas tier 2 boons kinda suck (unless you plan for the legendary) so getting the extra DDs is smexy

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Its kinda funny

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:22 AM

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I like riposte

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Whenever I play I always get legendaries when I dont expect or plan for them

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:22 AM

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and when looking for em it's like you're cursed?

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Yes

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:23 AM

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cant get the best of both worlds 😔

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:23 AM

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And then I die when I have all the required boons dusa

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And then on runs where I just want to collect stuff and not beat it, I beat it

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Soooo

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:24 AM

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when you want a zeus duo but get artemis in tart and only get lightning rod 😩

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:24 AM

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😔

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:24 AM

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lightning rod is good but it's so insistent

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just as insistent as zeus is with his constant trades

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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lightning rod is ehhhhhhhhh

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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if you get it for free thats some nice free dps

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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I'd rather get zeus/poseidon duo

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Whoopsie

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Ok wait lemme try to find the boons Im thinking about

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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well if you get zeus forced onto you without poseidon there to help lightning rod's some free dps i aint complainin

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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well reroll the room then

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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BTW, I also got a ||pact of punishment that hades put up||

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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(I always keepsake tartarus and asphodel to get things I want anyway)

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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viral pendant BTW, I also got a ||pact of punishment that hades put up||

welcome to the endgame

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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oop

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wrong reply

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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||Considering I have to accept the punishments in order for them to apply, I don't think the God of the Dead knows how punishments work||

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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I like lighting rod

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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I need to farm some darkness to get fated persuasion up though

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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I once just threw it around final boss and just ran around

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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muted latch well reroll the room then

very doable with fated persuation or it in ||styx shop|| :)

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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true

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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there we go

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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muted latch welcome to the endgame

Endgame? How many escapes do I need to do before the credits roll?

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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||10||

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Is that including the one I just did?

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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I'm not good enough to fully utilize butterfly or hermes keepsake so I just boon keepsake everything then switch to pom for last region

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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and between ||50-100|| for ||le epilogue||

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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viral pendant Is that including the one I just did?

yes

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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yes ||10|| total including your first

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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so 9 to go!

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Ok if I remember correctly, I kept getting Zeus boons when I didnt want him, so I just said “welp, guess we’ll roll with it”
I got Zeus Call, High Voltage/Double Strike (i forget), and just a lot of lightning damage boosting.
Also, I forgot what its called, but I got the thing that rescricts your god gauge but it automatically charges faster.
Because of this. I was able to quickly load Zeus Aid and get a bunch of damage really quickly. Helped me win

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:30 AM

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aphro zeus duo

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Ah thats right

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:30 AM

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||epilogue|| is more like that amount of RUNs since it's mostly tied to giving nectars to the gods

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:30 AM

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I knew it was a duo i forget which one tho

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:30 AM

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it can be nice with calls like zeus and dio

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i am slowly entering the realm of knowing the boons

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:31 AM

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I can see Hades.
"The underworld is inescapable, but he made it out ||ten|| times. Screw this, I'm moving to Cuba."

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:31 AM

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you can always just codex before picking anything up

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:31 AM

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i dont have my codex here

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Im still beginning.
All I know is “hehe curse of pain go brrrr”

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:31 AM

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You know

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:31 AM

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and my laptop will start burning if i have discord, hades and my browser open at the smae time 😂

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Bot when

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Someone make a bot

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Solution: Make a hand written codex

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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subtle granite and my laptop will start burning if i have discord, hades and my browser open at...

That's why I like 32 bit better. Less demanding on the gpu and in general

brave solstice Dec 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Wait that would actually be kinda cool
A paper copy guide styled like the codex

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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i use 32-bit but my laptop is old

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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How old?

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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honestly i cant remember

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Sounds like you're the one who's old

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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i am

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Mine's about 4, and really could use an internal cleaning

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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that sounds like an excellent idea

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Some thermal paste on the gpu wouldn't hurt either

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Problem is I'm too scared to open it up

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Mine is 5 years old

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A new laptop wouldn't hurt tbh

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residentzag

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:35 AM

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my 8th gen i5 and 8GB RAM ultrabook runs it fine at 1080p

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I would like to either buy or build a desktop. I'd imagine cleaning them would be a lot easier

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:35 AM

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gets noisy though since it's, well, an ultrabook that's specialized in lightness

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good thing I have good desktops at both work and home and a switch

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:36 AM

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I'd also imagine it would be easier to keep a desktop cooler. More space for fans

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:36 AM

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yeah hades is not a demanding game for any modern system

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it uses like 15% GPU and CPU on my desktops (8700K+2060Super and 3700X+1080)

subtle granite Dec 23, 2020, 4:37 AM

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but can you take desktops to the library or uni

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:37 AM

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ITX systems says hi

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:37 AM

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I mean I just wanted to run it with less stress

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And honestly, if I knew how to lock my computer at 60 fps I would

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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use RivaTuner Statistics Server

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and pretty sure Hades has vsync option in game

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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I never understood vsync. What's that do?

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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that would lock the game to 60fps if running a 60Hz display

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caps the game to the refreshrate limit of your display

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which is something you should always do if you are not using a Gsync/freesync enabled monitor

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Problem is my display will want to go as fast as possible, but IMO 60 fps is plenty

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:40 AM

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then use vsync and RTSS to cap the fps

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:40 AM

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muted latch my 8th gen i5 and 8GB RAM ultrabook runs it fine at 1080p

That sounds like a good pc compared to what I'm running

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/SBQeDTk

Imgur

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Our eyes operate at 30 anyway, and it's hard to differentiate 60 from something higher

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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uh that's not how human eyes work lol

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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That's because your monitor refresh rate is 60hz

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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They take image after image

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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most people can easily differentiate up to ~120Hz

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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If you have a higher refresh rate you'll be able to tell higher fps

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And it's very easy to tell the difference between 60 and 30 fps

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:42 AM

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like I cant really play games at 60fps since both my home screen and even my phone screen are high refreshrate

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I mean 30 and 60 yes

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I have to adjust my eyes every day at work since my work monitors are 60Hz

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:42 AM

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But after 60 is hard for me

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:42 AM

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The reason you're not seeing 120 fps is because your monitor is 60hz

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Going above 60 does nothing if your monitor literally can't refresh that fast

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:43 AM

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yeah a minority of people cant tell 60+

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:43 AM

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When I first got my laptop I played league at like 120

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:43 AM

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but for most people a high refresh rate monitor is game changing

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:44 AM

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I personally think that anything above 60 is for show

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:44 AM

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That's not true

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But sure

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:44 AM

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that's definitely not true

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high refresh rate is the mainstream for PC gaming for a reason

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:44 AM

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I mean if you enjoy higher rates, I'm not going to tell you to stop

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:44 AM

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the increased response time from a good HFR VRR screen is game changing

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:45 AM

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But from a personal standpoint, give me sixty and I'll be right as rain

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Sure but also saying going above 60 does nothing is just wrong lol

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:45 AM

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personal preference yes but the benefit is objectively there

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I'm not denying what it does

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Maybe I need to play more games that benefit from high rates

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Idk

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:47 AM

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yeah hades is not one that benefit much from it

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it's very evident in FPS games

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:48 AM

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I have a love hate relationship with that genre, mainly because I can't hit the broad side of a barn

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:48 AM

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any game is better with HFR just certain genres benefit from it more

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hades run at 162fps locked at home for me and it feels so good

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Not hitting the broad side of a barn is generally good in fps games cause you want to be hitting people

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dusa

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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shadeohboy

viral pendant Dec 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Pfft shadesmile

swift hawk Dec 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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I try not to blink. Lose like 2-3 frames per blink

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One day I'll master alternate eye blinks for optimized fps

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I actually legit lost to redacted once because I blinked

full depot Dec 23, 2020, 4:50 AM

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If you keep your eyes closed the entire time you don't have to blink at all

swift hawk Dec 23, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Has there been a blind run yet?

muted latch Dec 23, 2020, 4:50 AM

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it was one of my earlier runs and I was on the dying bed when I reached there

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blind run is probably not a viable thing in roguelikes