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Its basically just an extra death defiance
yes
what are all these heat things i keep seeing everywhere?
are they the chambers or something?
cerberus im gonna get next
Chaos portals?
yes
confused noise
Heats a difficulty modifier kinda
but ive seen heats in like thumbnails for videos
Manuel were the portals kinda a dark colour?
and i dont know if thats just a way to call a chamber or something im gonna figure out later
any other ones I should get
Like a blackish blue?
oh you get those after you beat the final boss
oh well
are any of the god keepsakes good
but i have only seen one portal...
I like chaos's keepsake
it says it takes life away
ive never taken it tho
ohhh
i thought it was like an extra challenge
Work on getting the gods keepsakes incase you want to summon a certain god or goddess. They guarantee you’ll meet them first if you put them on in the beginning as well as boost rarity chance. Super helpful if you want to go for a certain build
God I didnt give Ares any nectar and he would NEVER show up until today 
Costs hp but chaos has pretty useful boons especially since they stack well with other stuff
noted then
i know weapons are sorta preference but would you say one is preffered?
like ive used the bow for now
Daedalus is indeed very pog
@river grove chaos' pronouns are they/them theirs btw 
I usually use the sword or the gloves
sometimes the gun
All the weapons have their own good uses
yeah ive seen that
I tend to either use spear or fists if I want to do a legitimate escape attempt, sometimes shield
Fists have gotten me farther than all the others
tf does cosmic egg do
what do fists do? i still havent got them yet
I win with sword and fists the most
Cosmic egg makes it so you dont lose damage goo- yep
the same thing as the other god boons (and you don't lose health)
sick
and can you predict or summon what boons you get or is it just chance?
you can choose which one you get first with their keepsake
Punch everything to death with style
oh ok still havent given elixir to gods yet
Artemis and Dionysus: Oh you only need one more boon for the prophecy? Well, youve done the prerequisites so here 
Athena and Hermes: Oh you need one more? Suffer 
only to the house dudes
I gave nectar to Artemis first because I love her sm
all gods but hermes I think have keepsakes that make their boons better and more common
Luckily I bought a fated persuasion so I can try twice to get the boon i need for athena 
oh all right then
trial of the gods time
Yeah Hermes is the only exception. Hes a weird one
so builds are what boons you use?
He's too busy to pop up enough for that kinda keepsake
I used hermes a few run attempts and got pretty far actually 
basically
Builds include many different things
AAA WHY AM I FIGHTING ALL OF THE FATES AT ONCE WHAT
(Furies?)
I'M ONLY ON THE FIRST HEAT LEVEL WHAT
i believe the weapon of choice, the dark skills used etc
the keepsake
It's not literally all 3 fortunately
I see you have experienced Extreme Measures, have fun with it
yeah i just saw that
They just hop in and assist the main fury
Yeah, theres the Weapon (including aspects), Keepsakes and their ranks, the Mirror, Boons, Hammers, etc...
enshrouded strike good
first heat level best is tight deadline
oh do i only have to kill one?
Yes
hammers?
cool
if you can clear a run in under 36 minutes
i guess ill figure out later
Yeah
man still a lot of stuff to learn
Daedalus
You’ll figure it out soon enough
still havent met him tho
If you’re used to beating it yes, though plenty of folks don’t do that/don’t like the timer pressure
Some hanmer upgrades are beautiful and fundamentally change a weapons style
boss time
ok that was pretty easy
Is there a way to consistently heal or do we just buy food from shops?
it was just normal meg but with some extra attacks
check every single charon well
I mean there are perks and stuff you can get that restore health when you enter a chamber
there is usually a healing item in there
damn meg is hell unprepared
Is chaos pretty much always worth the health? except vs a daedalus
i have the one that heals some hp every time you enter a new chamber
biggest mistake when i was playing early on is i always skipped those
not always
At the start, I mean
the choas portals, becuase im too
Dusa’s keepsake right?
A mirror upgrade grants minor hp regen per room. Otherwise it's mainly food, the challenges that can restore hp, or some special encounters like wells or npcs
no im talking about charon wells
oh im going to most of those, when i have coins tho
if not i just go to next one
chaos portals arent really necessary early game but you can take them; the health loss is negligible usually, its usually the boons which screw you over
did you win against meg?
yes
good job

hows asphodel treating you?
immediate death
Asphodel is a nice difficulty bump
75 hp starting a run is kinda good
If you think Asphodel is hell wait until you get to the ||Temple of Styx|| 
I've been pretty stuck on asphodel
I hate it so much
theres a mirror upgrade which increases starting to 100
i always start at 50
I struggle with the 3rd area more than the 4th, for whatever reason
then the hearts increase by 25 each
oh i believe its one of the ones at the bottom
and then dark by 5 each once you get contractor upgrade
i never really had problems with ||styx||
In the mirror you can upgrade, centaur hearts throughout the run, and cerberus collar
DAEDALUS TIME
Hammer time!
i dont think asphodel is hell, just died from lava so still havent really played there
i guess ill figure out later
I think its just cause Im not prepared a lot of the time. I usually get to that area when Im NOT focused on escaping, so I dont have the proper boons for it
all of these are kinda meh
Plus Ive only been there twice so
Whatcha get?
what boons are reccommended for an attempt?
id honestly take the boss battles first (ones with skull marks)
pulverizing blow, ferocious guard, and charged flight
pulverizing blow seems the best tbh
All of those are decent
Alright
since less chance of dying to annyoing poison that way
and theres only one enemy to focus
i kinda struggled with the bomb skeletons at first....
Yeah poison can piss off
instead of like 6 waves of poison threat
so didnt take them so often
Pulverizing can be real good, Ferocious Guard is easier to turn on than you’d expect
Hows the game?
pretty good
Pain

I feel nothing but pain
wish i had the game lol since it has good reviews. rip
Hot take, game’s good
I saw it on the game awards so i was curios
Get it its very epic
really hot take there, i imagine a lot of people REALLY disagree with that one
I mean we’ve had a couple people come in with disagreement
i got it bcuz of game awards
If only i could 
dang
I'm biased. It's satisfying.
the artsyle is really pleasing to look at...
I guess Hades is pretty alright
“Alright y’know Greek gods? Make them hot”
furious clapping
Dionysus in particular
3 hours in, i say its good
Prob never gunna get it. Cuz well: 
I been playing since asphodel was the furthest you could go
Idek my hours im too lazy to go check
Ok real talk I had never seen the art for Aphrodite until I played and when I saw her for the first time I went 👁👄👁
i mean its not THAT expensive...
alright gunna leave the server. Have a great day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
x2
you 2 buddy
You too see ya
I wonder if Hades is gonna beat my favourite game of all time in the amount of hours 
which issss?
Already most hours for me, though that wasn’t hard
Hollow Knight. I have around 700 h on that bad boy
Bc I am still baby gamer
damn
boss time, this time I have full hp and a revive
i feel like this is gonna be my most hoursa
but only bcuz i got my pc like a month ago
an the most ive played of something is among us and that is 35 hours so yeah probably gonna beat it
H o w d o p e o p l e h a v e t h e t i m e f o r t h a t
E X C U S E M E W H A T
Roguelikes hunger for our time
NOOOOOOOOOO
haden in real life then....
MEG WAS LIKE 1 HIT AWAY FROM DYING
should've played a bit safer after revive
Next time
Maxing out the mirror makes a huge difference
i saw the ign review, they said the average attempts for a succesful escape was 31
here i am at like 17 with only beating meg like damn
i have max mirror rn but i need to get more keys to unlock more talents
Im at 41 and Ive only gotten to the second room in ||Styx||
I took a lot of attempts to get far. But you'll get where you consistently make it further than the first few zones every time
my mirror got upgraded so now the top talents have more stuff
what
24 attempts?
I suck at video games my god
i am starting to notice the same thing here
at this rate im going to do my succesful escape at like 7834
My first clear was before they technically added the ending so I don't know if it counts. But it was like 50 tries
I got my first clear at run 40
As long as you're having fun, I wouldn't focus on your progress compared to others, everyone will advance at their own pace 
i guess so...
should i get side hustle or extra dash?
It's possible with enough effort, just keep going
extra dash imo
Yeah, don’t focus too nuch on comparing progress to others
didnt mean to respond to that lol
Extra dash for sure
Or the speed boost after a dash
I mean I kinda sucked at Hollow Knight too when I first started. Took me way longer than normal to get 112%, but I got better ig
So ig I’ll just have to get better at Hades 
Maybe after party too as insurance
Trust me you’ll get better
oh wait actually looking at my steam page im 4.5 hours in
If I can play this game well you’ll absolutely be able to
When you have extra mirror dash and hermes dash, as well as speed boost: I am speed
i am still unlocking the whole mirror
daedalus is pog
True
so does skelly i believe
||Demeter|| is considered spoilers in this channel @soft kelp 
Nah, that’s just the keepsake, different thing
so please use spoiler tags
Oof I'll delete
yeah im using spoiler tags
CURSED SLASH YO
so no problem here 👍
should I get cursed slash or is it not worth it
||Let me beat the game and see winter mom god damn it I wanna see Detemer||. (After first run completion spoilers)
What are your other options?
hoarding slash and double nova
that entire sentence is spoiler covered, soooooo
Hoarding’s less likely to ruin you later on but Cursed Slash is a solid one
(Do pls tag spoilers appropriately with why they’re spoilered)
Cya
👋 we’ll see you back at the House eventually
any tips for getting gems? gotta make the snake head happy
You can find gems at Charons shop as well as in the well
cursed slash is so good for facetanking holy
And also on your runs, and as an award for completing prophecies
thanks
Fishing can get you gems
That too
And exchanging other resources at the merchant guy at the base
All the various Gods and Goddess prophecies (getting all their boons) gives you 150 each
support fire is insane
why is zag trying to be friends with the ||bone hydra|| lol
yea
one of athena's boons makes you pretty much invincible when dodging, maybe get that one
the reflect one?
Dash deflect real good
yeah
gotta go get some more nectar then since I gave my last one to dusa

Really if you enjoy breaking things it's the best option
charged flight, charged shot or explosive return
You should try everything at least once
Charged Shot’s real fun, you basically get to play bow+shield
Stand in a corner and cheese enemies
Nice
died at the 2nd area of asphodel but I beat meg so
Is offering nectar to hades worth it?
It's always worth it for more emotionally constipated lines of dialogues
Also unlike everyone else he ||gives them all back to you when you have maxxed out the nectar you can give him||
Also also, ||his relationship meter caps out at 5 where everyone else's is around 9-10||
WAIT WHAT ||THE COMPANIONS ACTUALLY SUMMON THE CHARACTER??? I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A DOLL||
A whole new world opens up for you
||So many hilarious lines triggered by invoking x character against/along with y character||
ooh
So guys what is the god mode do?
I see
Oh well I am still using the normal mode
I just like hard game
Give me all the hard challenge.
:)
I see.
Anyway the art style kind of reminds me a bit of a comic book.
I finally defeated ||theseus|| and ||asterius||
then i died
I should probably use my specials morr
yeah learning to use all of your abilities is important
I had done 3 successful runs before I realized the cast was useful and actually started using it
But yeah with some weapons you'll prob not like the special or the attack and use the other more...
and some weapons you'll hate so much you'll only ever use the cast when wielding them
The bow, it's getting better, but the first run I finally managed to win with the bow, I barely used it
I hate the special, weirdly enough. I have a pretty good timing with the normal shot to get the max dmg
But I still hate the bow in general, I should try and explore the aspects more
Try using your special as a shotgun rather than a multi clearing attack
You'd be surprised how broken Chiron aspect can be
Aaah I should do that
I think it's the most popular aspect for bow
Especially since my favourite weapon is the railgun with aspect of Hestia because I can use it as a shotgun
I've found that Dionysus and Aphrodite work the best with Bow special
Same, doom is satisfying in general
I agree, but you'd be surprised on how powerful hangover stacks can be
I got attached to it following a couple runs where I literally just kept running into Ares so at the end everything I did inflicted mad doom
But I think ares on fists is the best
Do try a Merciful End build. It's extremely strong
And super fun
Yup
It's pretty effective
who should I target first, the Centaurus or These
idk if it's the good name I had to translate it
I always kill asterius first
asterius is the other guy ok didn't know his name in english
You're thinking ||Minotaur||. Some people say One, some the other
the boss battle becomes kind of a pain if asterius is still on the field while theseus calls a god
Whatever you think is easier
yeah this happened
I was pretty far on my first try ngl
both had around 1 third of life left
ok so let's try to kill theseus
good luck 
idk if this is the right place to ask, but cross-saves pc-switch are working now? or it is still in development? thanks.
right now it’s still under development, check out #hades-faq
why i cant play with controller ps5?
can you play ANY other game with that controller? Probably a driver issue
I have a Trial of the Gods between Zeus and Ares. Which one should I pick first. I barely get these two when doing these
I think I’ll pick Zeus first just because Im trying to get his tier 2 boons for the prophecy
In terms of story, I prefer angering ares, because he seems to like it after the trial
because you just did violence in his name
Check out explainer videos from Haelian and Jawless Paul on YouTube. It reeeeeeally helped me with all the subtleties of the game.
Jesus that was painful. The room was small and the blade rifts were so big
Plus im using rail which Im not comfortable with
whoever thought the witch room in asphodel was a good idea needs to be fired
why
I usually lose a DD in witch room
get athena's deflect or use a companion after getting them to you in the safe corner of the room
that or get their armor down fast, they are easily stunable
Gods Pride vs Gods legacy?
depends on build
More boons > less boons
this is the epic vs legendary duo one
Oh man, I always get those mixed up
usually legacy is better at low dif tho
Well, in that case I'd recommend newer players to stick with +Epic
i thought new-medium difficulty go with legendary/duo, hgher difficulty go with epic
New players barely understand that Duos and legendaries have requirements, having +chance for them aint gonna help.
how do you get good at fishing
Two tips
1- There will be a maximum of three bobs before a bite. If you have three fakeouts, then the fourth one will always be a bite
2- The time between a fake bob and a true bite is always the same. If it takes too long, it's another bob
any tips on dealing with the chariots?
hang on, there can be fake bobs?
i didnt even know that, thx
Uh.... were you always reeling in on the first bob??
that's what i was doing when I first got it lol
Yup always, feels like a 25% chance to get a fish. I taught I just had bad reactions.
What I find also helps is to not look at the rod and instead look up a bit and react to the pillar of light
the bob sinks less when it's false
Are you on MKB? On controller even the rumble for a bob and a bite are different
So, if I just wait four bobs. I have a 100% for a real bite? Or am I just being dumb atm
most of the time
Well, the fish can bite any time before that
It wont always wait for the fourth one
the bobber stays down for alot longer if it's real
any tips for dealing with the chariots?
Yeah, just dash through the barriers
Is there really no keepsake that guarantes a Herme boon?
I dont think so
no keepsake that guarantees a daedalus hammer either
Yeah I know, but kinda strange since Hermes is the only good without that kind of Keepsake. I'm guessing since he's not really an olympian god
he's like a chthonic god too
yah but u wanna do it as fast as possible since faster = better reward
Hermes works differently
Hermes is kind of both
so you either look for the glint of light or the sound
The game will almost always give you two Hermes boons anyways
@harsh leaf In what ways?
And you can never get more than two in a run, with a chance for the third in Styx
Same with hammers
Oh, is that way I keep getting Hermes boons even when I have Keepsakes that guarantes Ares or Athena
Yes
No
Chaos gates have a set number of chambers you need to wait for another one to spawn, though, so there is a functional limit
You can force one to appear with the Well boon, which I think is also the only way to make a gate appear in Styx
Does the well boon that forces chaos even show in styx?
i cant beat minitaur and the other guy? Is there any strat for defeating them?
Focus Minotaur, his attack patterns are really easy to follow and counter. Keep your feet moving to avoid aholes spear throws
Try default sword + heal 2 hp on hit hammer mod + attack speed boons from Hermes.
thanks man
thanks for the info
And when the spear guy is aiming on you, run behind smt
Thanks for the info guys 👍
also is there any weapon unblockable after the rail gun?
no but there will be different kinds of the already unlocked weapons
ok
Does anyone think that there are going to be more weapons in the further update?
they should right?
idk
kinda, but i like it
maybe some hybrid types would be fun , idk
I actually have no problem with the weapon amount, as some boons and hammers can greatly alter your playstyle
and etc
i think they do
I do however, find the enemy varerity, kinda weak,
oh so there are boss drop weapons?
yeah, but i just thought that more weapons could be more enjoyable
@magic urchin no
okayy
So boss drop weapons would be cool right?
idk, but it sound like a fun idea

lol
what else games do u play?
i completed terraria recently
nice
and playing good ol bioshock
whats that
bioshock is like horror scifi shooter ig
Bioshock was so good! I want to replay Infinite again.
lol
So hey, still trying for my first clear but also I do care about advancing relationships with characters... How much would I regret trading away early ambrosia for titan blood for weapon upgrades?
Not going to run out of ambrosia later or anything?
You’ll always get more
Ok
yeah
I have 11 ambriosa atm, I keep getting them at alarming rates with no characters to use them on yet. Trading them in is probably win win
hold your mouse over it and read below
god mode is like hardcore diifficulty
oh
What, no
God Mode is the opposite
oh
it makes the game easier
It's easymode
sorry wrong perception
lol
in other games god mode would be like harder
yeah
but here we are going to be a god like so it is easier
God mode is 20% damage reductions, but everytime you die it gets damage reductionier
wait if u play a lot with it
When can i marry dusa
those it mean you can take like no damage
I believe there's eventually a cap.
@waxen gale why marry dusa when you can marry achilles gachiHYPER bussy
hahahaah
true
what weapon is ur playstyle guys?
twin fist
mine is stygian blade
Sword, Ares Doom boons and athena dash with Posdeion special, never died before Hades boss fight with it.
omg yes
so good
misterwondo must be a pro
With poseidon and zeus boons they're even better
the above statement is true, but dont investigate further into it please
i dont like the wine and love char
yall got the ||the hidden aspect||?
nope
for the twin fist
I just generally dislike the sword, consistent damage is what i like
what type of boons is best with sword?
Also anyone actually used specials here?
twin fists is also a go for me
specials are kinda bad imo
lmao
so what boons should i choose for my sword?
no idea
I've never got the athena dash before
rly?

athena dash is god of what i forgot
yeah
get it its rly good
zeus is always pretty good
@waxen gale doom boon is perfect for sword imo. The time for your special to go off gives enough time for the doom to go off so you can then after speical give them doom effect with your basic right after, giving you perfect burst. but thats just my opinion, people have different playstyles ig.
athena is the god of wisdom and war
misterwondo is a wiki
yeah i thinl
Lol
Ive came to the temple of styx
Yeah, goes well with her whole defensive boons kind of theme going on.
btw y marry dusa when you can marry Thanatos
so actually how long does it take to beat the game
Yeah, athena can't exactly tell you to dodge, so she offers the next best thing, blocking stuff
You can remove the poision with those statue thingies in Styx @waxen gale
why marry thanatos when you can marry cerberus and hades at the same time
y hades
@magic urchin my longest is 30 and shortest 22.
Incest is more common than uncommon in Greek mythology my friend
bruh
Zeus basically funded his entire family tree alone
also i have a big doubt, so u told it took 30 hrs so did u have to do it 30 hrs straight
@magic urchin I'm talking minutes my friend
lmao
Longest succesful run was 30 minutes, shortest 22.
oops sorry
how many attempts did it take? @vestal reef
Just good memory. When I like a game I tend to dig into it.
also when does christmas sale start on steam?
Lmao
what have i done
I love that little nod at Greek mythology
Because ||zag and dionysus sometimes got mixed as the same god||
Yeah, this game has so many hints at small details in greek mythology
ahhahaah
I only knew that one bc I read the Wikipedia on Zagreus like five minutes before I got to the reference in the game. XD
Any recommendations for what the first pact of punishments to get? I got two Damage Control on since it seems easy enough to get those two down and it hardly makes a difference on bosses.
Yeah I liked that too I think ||the story zag said to orpehus is real in mythology||
Tbh I started with the upgrading the bosses because I was already good at them I think it's about what you feel comfortable with
I don't remember the name but the one that upgrades traps is pretty easy
heightened security
Would you say those are better than Damage control?
Hello friends
Does it matter who I give ambrosia to first? Ideally I wanted to give it to Meg but haven't had that option yet, however I can give it to Charon
You'll get tons of ambrosia. I gave mine to Charon first.
OK cool. I didn't know if it "unlocked" an ending for them
Give at least 1 to everyone whenever you can, imo.
I have given nectar to everyone
But i guess ambrosia can only be given when you unlock the padlock heart?
Correct
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maxing either meg or sisyphus first is best
sisyphus for the win
emergency heal plus darkness and obol
nvm, I'm talking about things likely past first clear.
just give a nectar to everybody at first to get their keep sakes and use the keep sakes that seem the most useful
for total beginners, the dog collar is good, then either skelly's tooth for another death defiance or hypnos' purse for some instant coin
after you understand builds a little, use the God keep sakes to get the boons you want
good luck on your first clear
any recommendation for what Gods to use for the shield?
idk
athena dash ares attack and the duo boon that drops wrath
i also like doing whatever gets you big ares blade rifts that either seek or freeze... but freeze is after the first clear
and then playing defensively
I'm not very good at shield yet
just ran into ||chaos|| is he usually worth it?
i feel like "try it" is the best answer there
Sometimes he is and sometimes he isnt and the only way to get a feel either way is to do it lots and see for yourself
i had a very good run right now
got to beat the hydra my very first time against it! fell proud
but then the minotaur whooped me
Minotaur is rough imo
On his own? Without theseus?
Always.
Meg hydra and minotaur I found all of them pretty easy from the first time especially hydra I think I've never lost a death defiance to that thing before I started using heat
And it’s “they” 😉
I lost both my death defiances to that
True. Because they are like James Charles 😂
Well not gonna lie 249 hours on tboi and 160 on hollow knight maybe made my gaming reflexes a lot better
And both of these games are harder than hades hades is still hard though
Skelly's keepsake is so nice
It's...... not really. Spiked Collar usually ends up being much better
Is an anvil of fates worth it?
hm
But feel free to take it until you find out why it's bad!
i beat meg for my first time without needing to use a revive LETS GOOOO
I love how this game has a different attraction for every player and how actually every weapon is good
Alright some of them are slightly better and some slightly worse but every weapon has potential
asphodel is hell man
Luckily Asphodel has very widely spaced rooms and enemies. You’ll be able to find some place to retreat most of the time
Yeah that's true... are you listening styx?
quick recovery seems hella OP
I wish I got Hades on my switch im so bored rn
I was I got it on my switch too but I need a switch to do that but yeah I think we have the same problem not being able to play rn
Yeah lol
Its another account upgrade. Kinda like Titans blood, but you can use it for trades and stuff, just not upgrading weapons
i was doing hella damage though
You can also get upgrades from the House Contractor with diamonds
Yeah you beat the Bone Hydra to get the diamond
You can also get diamonds from completing prophecies
Gemstones and darkness too
i got 3 nectar from beating a prophecy so nice
Nice
what should I use it on
Well I would use it to get the keepsakes you dont have
Check your codex and see which characters you dont have one heart with
Yes that's a nice thought athena's dash is rly helpful
Although some keepsakes arent going to be available to you atm for spoiler reasons
wait I can gift meg?
Yep
You can find her in the lounge most of the time after you defeat her. Just check after each run
oh nice its just a low hp damage buff
Yes her keepsake is... decent
rn im gonna just keep grinding up the cerberus one
I recommend skelly's
should I get the hermes one
It's decent
Just, try to get all the keepsakes as they're all useful at some point and in certain situations
i love ares
Spiked Collar is better
Are you gonna update us with every event in your run?
Maybe depending on your boons ares and athena would help rly much at making skelly's more useful
No, no, Spiked Collar is pretty much always better.
Spiked Collar gives you fifty HP immediately, then 25 more for each of your regular DDs. So right off the bat it's already 125 HP vs Skelly's 100 HP
But Collar also gives you HP every single time you heal, too, so it ends up being waaaay more HP over the course of a run
Skelly gives you 100 HP ONCE, at the END, and the entire rest of the time it does nothing
It's not a good keepsake, it's a trap. But it does "feel good" if you're the kind of player that gets very anxious
Yeah but you can boost it with athena for hp and protecting and ares for some damage but I guess you are right
But... having Spiked Collar means those Athena boons also heal you for more
And the Ares boon isnt even good either!
Alright
I think bablo takes tooth for aspho/elysium
But for a really new player, that hasnt unlocked many DDs. Skelly tooth is better.
but that's also high heat sd
Huh. No god keepsakes? Does he run seeded then?
what does titan blood do
Dont worry about it right now, you'll find out when you unlock all weapons
The game will explain it pretty well
Unlocking weapon aspects and upgrading weapons
oh sick
Nvm then
i don't recall if he had a keepsake for tart (most likely), and he runs unseeded cmiiw
You'll understand eventually
so I just need to unlock the gun and I can upgrade stuff
i asked him in chat why tooth and not acorn
What is the best keepsake? ATM I carry the Chaos Egg as I love the Chaos upgrades
his reasoning was that acorn is useless until you get to the boss fight
The one you like the most
with tooth you can get a use out of it in normal chambers
Depends on your build really doesnt it
I see, thanks
Dusa's is the best 
This game is too balanced to have worsts and bests with big gups
I keep the tooth on standby, so that if a run is going badly I can switch to the tooth and maybe get through one more boss
Lately I have been mostly using the butterfly, in an attempt to try to train myself to dodge more and stop facetanking
so, what generally is the best god to aim for for each weapon?
Really depends
like, when playing fists i really like going for zeus since his chain lightning things seem to synergize well with small, quick attacks
If you're new, a good god for every weapon is Athena. Her dash and call will let you live much, much longer
Athena's dash is very good.
It's not an inspired take, but I really like Dionysus's cast; it's slow but it does heavy ranged AoE damage with a status.
Poseidon on main attack is also useful for survival, because it's got knockback. Feels good to me on the sword, for instance, with those wide swings you can just clear your area.
if I can't get artemis for bow primary, I'm usually happy with poseidon as a backup
yeah, the sword is actually something i like running athena on, exactly for those wide sweeping attacks for your attack boon
Oh yeah, deflection attack with sword is really fun against those witches with the cluster shot. They crumple quick
but i guess it's also pretty good on shield?
Probably. I think it's less of a priority with shield, personally, because you can already block with the shield (while charging bull rush)
Want to put in an honorable mention for primary attack chain lightning on the gun, which is a powerful upgrade to my least favorite weapon.
who do i need to give more nectar to in order to continue giving nectar to Sisyphus?
||talks once to bouldy, then finish his story line by purchasing something from contractor - takes some rng to get all the lines||
how do i spoiler tag?
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lol
whoops
oh yea that's right, that's basically my argument for fists but even better lol
So I've heard that ||there are multiple ending or routes for the game||
is that a thing and if so what's a basic explanation of how they work without spoiling the story
There are arguably two “levels” of story completion but yeah, it’s a single narrative
okay thanks!
also about the Aspects of weapons
does the last one unlock if you complete the prophesy regarding said weapon?
No
is it a story thing?
No, hidden aspects involve talking to people
Dont just read off a list of Prophecies and expect to understand anything, lmao
And also putting enough titan blood into the weapon
and how do I find out to which people I need to talk?
if some of the aspects regard them should I talk to them?
Just go to the wiki
You can guess who you need to talk to based on other aspects of the weapon or type of weapon
Or the spoiler channel if you want the answers
eh...The Wiki is a dangerous place
If you want speciifcs, yes, go to the wiki
hmm ah well
You're literally "googling" stuff here. What are you afraid of? Having your question answered?
having answers to questions I didn't want to be to be answered outside of the game
But..... you're already asking outside of the game
Just keep playing upgrade your weapons speak with people and it will happen
about questions I do want awnsered
If you wish to know which people search it
Look, if you're very new to the game, dont even worry about secret aspects, or endings, or whatever.
Just play the game
It does a good enough job of guiding the player
okie
You cant miss content, dont worry
ah that's a relief
how important is upgrading weapons ? i seldom get the blood for it, and it pisses me off to get darkness for a difficult boss, even if it's not my first time beating them
should i try clearing each boss with every weapon, and pour all the giant's blood into one weapon ?
alternate aspects are usually pretty good
||and putting 5 blood into a weapon lets you unlock a hidden aspect||
||start with spear||
should i read that ?
minor spoiler
about what ?
weapon aspects
@fallen canyon ||4th spear has a differant unlock conditions from the rest||
||why spear||
||you need to unlock it first to unlock the others||
oh well i got the game 24h ago but i'm well past all that
The unlock conditions are pinned in #h1-story-discussion
well past all what?
i have all weapons and started farming aspects, i'm just confused as to why it's so slow to get the titan blood
If I take off lucky tooth without triggering it do I lose it's revive or will it stick till I die
after your first clear its easier
|| does anyone spend 1200 on the titan blood in front of cerberus ?||
that's insane
i survive off of the hourglass and temporary buffs
and after first clear you get more
but you can get it from bosses too
or is that limited ?
because i believe i've gotten some extra with the same weapon as a boss reward
you cant get more from bosses until after your first clear
damn i was so close
i guess i just don't know if i'm stuck because of skill or because of stats
just keep upgrading the mirror and youll get better
its skill
but you can subsidize skill with mirror
ok so i made it || all the way to the second phase of hades || by using the rail with insane amounts of special damage
like one special did 650 damage
noice
all ways are viable
but i literally can't see how to beat bosses with melee weapons
ive been playing for like 100 hours
and everything i thought was terrible ive found works great
unless you get only one or two hits at a time ?
hit a couple times and dash is usually what you do
Understanding enemy attack patterns helps a bunch
^
shield is usually a good one for a first clear
furies get really easy
except for alecto
alecto is always a bit annoying
|| meg yes but alecto and finally tisiphone is by far the worst for me ||
it's difficult to kite with rail when there's no room
try shield
ok
shield usually works well for a first clear
?
can a sword slice the projectiles ?
yea
because rail can cancel
shield can straight up block
Almost every aspect can destroy incoming projectiles
because i'm still fresh off of Wizard of Legends and in that rogue like you need specific items to be able to stop projectiles
and dashes aren't invincible
||4th rail|| is the only exception
so i'm very scared in hades
ah
Blank dashes do have i frames
hades is very much about dashing
also is it possible to barrier slam in asphodel ?
ye
yes spear is my second favorite
but rail has gotten me the farthest and i put most of my blood in it
i liked hestia at first but now i have zag and i try to kite everything
ok i'll force myself to use melee in order to train my dashing
i need to feel comfortable
i also have a bad habit to try to finish bosses asap, is that bad ?
is it better to play safe and flawlessly ?
ares cast with artimis duo is amazing
If you don't know their attack patterns better off playing safe
so are the boss fights just supposed to last 5 to 10 minutes or something ?
also what's the stategy with chaos ? good or bad ?
good early, bad later ?
but with the keepsake
Chaos is generally great any time, except the room before a boss fight
(in most cases)
chaos is good if you can beat the floor
also how do you keep track of rooms ? i feel like it's always the same number between shops and fountains, but is there a display ?
dont risk a chaos boon in elysium tho
Tartarus: 12
Asphodel: 6
Elysium: 8
before final shop
ive never kept track of rooms
first empty room counts, shops count, chaos wells (as long as they arent just before final shop) counts
Depends on how confident you are in your build
No worries 
im so sad that you can't go into a chaos portal if it'll kill you
id spend a DD for a chaos boon any day
I could see that being cheesed with SD
or if ur confident enough in ur abilities, just die in a trap
Get to low hp, use your SD on a chaos room to heal and get the SD back in the chaos room
well you get it back in the next room anyways
By finish the game, do you mean cleared a run or reached ||the credits?||
i just got the ||hidden aspect|| for the spear, gun and fists it took so long
I finally completed the game and got the true end!
||epilogue or credits?||
||Orpheus and Eurydice||
uhh ||credits I guess||
There's quite a bit more story left still
I actually described it really stupidly, so it's not even a spoiler
||not really just that theres more story to unlock after the credits||
good
I meant the credits
@pastel cipher cleared a run
then there's still a tonne of content in the game to experience ^_^
gg
just beat the game for the first time. feeling good
essentially just abused ice beams with the booms which upgraded it. Also used the boon which freezes the foe which damages me so constant damage
nice
i now have every weapon
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