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subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 1:01 AM

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(damnit)

hard heath Dec 9, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Okay. Cool. Thank you guys so much

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 1:01 AM

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But it turns the lounge into a disco, so it counts

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 1:01 AM

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of course :)

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hehehe

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at least the disco ball butterflies are friendly ;_;

quick karma Dec 9, 2020, 1:05 AM

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question what does ||giving nectar to Bouldy do?||

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 1:06 AM

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you can only give nectar to him, no? o.o

quick karma Dec 9, 2020, 1:07 AM

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sorry mixed the two up XD

heady comet Dec 9, 2020, 1:07 AM

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it gives some random buff stat

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 1:08 AM

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well it used to give you a boon with a minor boost in something, like 6% more gold, 2% higher special damage, now it's a random buff stat as "everyone" said above ;w;

quick karma Dec 9, 2020, 1:09 AM

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ah okay thanks

torn plaza Dec 9, 2020, 1:11 AM

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is the duo buff the room where you have to choose between two gods

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or is that different?

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 1:12 AM

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different

quick karma Dec 9, 2020, 1:12 AM

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a duo buff is like a fusion of two gods' boons, while the room where you choose between 2 gods is called a Trail of the Gods

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 1:12 AM

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duo's can appear whenever you find a boon but never in trial of the gods

torn plaza Dec 9, 2020, 1:13 AM

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does it always take a really long time to charge up your call?

quick karma Dec 9, 2020, 1:14 AM

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There are boons you can get that speed up the charge

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 1:14 AM

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the more hits you do/you take the faster it charges up

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Call charges with hits dealt, not damage

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 1:14 AM

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and the bonus boons as Alice mentioned of course :)

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 1:15 AM

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So fast hitting weapons actually build call faster

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 1:15 AM

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i forgot that damage is only part of it when you get the artemis charge up boon

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Damage might increase it also, but hits is the main way

quick karma Dec 9, 2020, 1:16 AM

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harsh leaf Damage might increase it also, but hits is the main way

wait so would using ||aspect of chiron make it charge really fast?||

torn plaza Dec 9, 2020, 1:20 AM

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it seems like the item from chaos isnt as good as the Cerberus item

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bc it costs less than 25hp to go through one of her gates

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is the %change increase of a rare that good?

quick karma Dec 9, 2020, 1:22 AM

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as a boon goes up in rarity the numbers on it go up, so the rare version would be better than the common version of the same boon

heady comet Dec 9, 2020, 1:22 AM

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any fast hitting weapon charges call fast

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chaos item is very meh since it doesnt even guarantee chaos gate in the first place

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and you can heal from it easily

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 1:24 AM

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quick karma wait so would using ||aspect of chiron make it charge really fast?||

Faster, yes

quick karma Dec 9, 2020, 1:24 AM

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neat

west heath Dec 9, 2020, 1:29 AM

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I finally escaped on the Bow!! I’m so excited. Thanks for the tips y’all

twin nexus Dec 9, 2020, 1:45 AM

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so I beat Meg for the first time tonight... after 52 escape attempts (maybe 6 fights with Meg). I'm playing with a head mouse and noise controls so I assume this is a bit slower than normal? but actually I have no idea. should I be worried about running through story stuff too fast at this pace?

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 1:47 AM

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.....too fast? After FIFTY attempts you make it out of Tartarus? Surely you be jesting

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No idea what a head mouse or noise controls are.

torn plaza Dec 9, 2020, 1:49 AM

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dont worry about progressing the story too fast 🙂

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itll all work out!

twin nexus Dec 9, 2020, 1:49 AM

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i meant, too fast as in if i'm reading the conversation stuff after every run? can you easily run out

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 1:50 AM

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no worries there, i'm about a hundred runs in and have yet to run out of dialogue really

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:04 AM

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@twin nexus the conversation stuff never runs out

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ive been playing like 70 hours and havent run out of story content

twin nexus Dec 9, 2020, 2:06 AM

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okay cool that's good to hear

hard heath Dec 9, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Also holy cow the music in this game is phenomenal

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:09 AM

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theres a ridiculous amount of dialogue
and some of the triggers are really specific

worldly bear Dec 9, 2020, 2:09 AM

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I love that

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I’m sad I’m running out of the glowy spots that trigger the narration

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:10 AM

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lmao

torn plaza Dec 9, 2020, 2:15 AM

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wtf this last weapon is op af

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lol

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:15 AM

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eh
all the weapons have their place

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i dont really think any of them are unbalanced

torn plaza Dec 9, 2020, 2:15 AM

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idk man

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this gun thing seems pretty cracked to me

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Rail is okay

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Eris, on the other hand...

torn plaza Dec 9, 2020, 2:16 AM

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i think the spear is the most balanced

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which is eris?

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 2:16 AM

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The second rail

torn plaza Dec 9, 2020, 2:16 AM

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ah see im only on the first

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:17 AM

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||what about hidden rail||

torn plaza Dec 9, 2020, 2:17 AM

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idk what that is yet lol

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but dont tell me

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how to get it that is

obtuse pasture Dec 9, 2020, 2:22 AM

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should i take the 1:1 abrosia x titan blood deal?

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just got my first one

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:23 AM

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abrosia for titan blood?

obtuse pasture Dec 9, 2020, 2:23 AM

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the "shop" ghost in Hades House

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 2:24 AM

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I wouldn't take it at the start

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When you still need ambrosia

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:24 AM

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ambrosia is more valuable then titan blood later on
but you should really invest in your aspects for now

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start with upgrading spear aspects

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Ambrosia won't be relevant for a very long time. So if you want a more immediate reward, then go for it

obtuse pasture Dec 9, 2020, 2:25 AM

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i see

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thanks

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Ambrosia is DEFINITELY NOT more important than Titan's Blood, but you do need quite a bit of it

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 2:30 AM

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To put it in perspective, I am 55 runs in and I only started needing it on run 45.

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That won't be true for everyone

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:31 AM

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how long have you been playing 4th?

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I think it's okay to trade a bit of it for TB early on to get a leg up on aspects, but dont go crazy

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80+ hours

worldly bear Dec 9, 2020, 2:31 AM

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You need like 10 ambrosia if you want to ||romance someone||.

upbeat mason Dec 9, 2020, 2:32 AM

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you don't need a lot of ambrosia if you're looking for mechanical benefits

obtuse pasture Dec 9, 2020, 2:32 AM

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im on my 25th run

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 2:32 AM

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But that's a long ways away

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 2:32 AM

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||Companions ||are waaaaaayyyy less important than levelling aspects

upbeat mason Dec 9, 2020, 2:32 AM

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yeah, you'll usually only need to level one or two

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Well, ambrosia is for strengthening relationships more than nectar can

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:32 AM

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ambrosia is important for advancing the story later on

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 2:33 AM

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But the nectar's got to do its work before ambrosia can take over

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:33 AM

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yea true

obtuse pasture Dec 9, 2020, 2:33 AM

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should i open a new aspect first or max lvl the one i got?

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Completely up to you

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I encourage trying new things though

obtuse pasture Dec 9, 2020, 2:33 AM

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good

upbeat mason Dec 9, 2020, 2:33 AM

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i prefer maxing 1 aspect per weapon

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to use them to climb heat

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:34 AM

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id get both of the aspects then pick which one you like best and level it

upbeat mason Dec 9, 2020, 2:35 AM

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you can test weapons without permanently buying them btw

worldly bear Dec 9, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Orly?

upbeat mason Dec 9, 2020, 2:35 AM

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if you give up your run, you'll return to the last time you entered skelly room

worldly bear Dec 9, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Oh true

upbeat mason Dec 9, 2020, 2:35 AM

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so if you dumped your blood and start a run without leaving the skelly room

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and you don't like the weapon

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you can give up

obtuse pasture Dec 9, 2020, 2:36 AM

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oh how nice

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 2:54 AM

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It's ||Zeus|| that reveals the ||hidden rail aspect|| right?

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:54 AM

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yes

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 2:54 AM

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sigh he's being stubborn then

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:55 AM

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||youve invested 5 titan blood and got the spear aspect right?||

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 2:55 AM

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I think 7 now, since I also upgraded the 2nd aspect

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And yes, I have ||Gaun yu||

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:57 AM

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then just keep doing runs

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 2:57 AM

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I wonder how much ambrosia I need bc ive been giving it to like everyone lol

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 2:58 AM

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I think everyone needs at least 1 ambrosia at one point

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 2:58 AM

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go for dusa first

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 2:59 AM

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ive been spamming the gift button

heady comet Dec 9, 2020, 4:15 AM

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? go for at least one ambrosia in meg first

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then max the reward from that first

floral nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Why meg?

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Sisyphus is also fairly strong, assuming you can still heal

heady comet Dec 9, 2020, 4:27 AM

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cuz u dont usually need the sustain at low difficulty

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meg has ease of use and damage

upbeat mason Dec 9, 2020, 4:30 AM

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i can't tell which one is generally better tbh
sisyphus' health gain can sometimes be a run saver, but meg just do so much work in miniboss/hydra/heroes

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 4:35 AM

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||dont you eventually get the dusa ambrosia back?||

floral nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 4:36 AM

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It's a choice

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||You don't have to take it back||

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Phalanx shot with hidden shield aspect actually seems kind of insane!

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 4:53 AM

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heady comet cuz u dont usually need the sustain at low difficulty

The added Darkness income is nice when you're still doing low heat

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 5:05 AM

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||my point is max dusas relationship status first because you can get the ambrosia back||

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 5:38 AM

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So quick question: is the true ending when ||persephone comes home||? Or is there something else? If there is something else, just say yes (I don't want spoilers).

upbeat mason Dec 9, 2020, 5:41 AM

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there's something else

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Also, can confirm, hidden shield aspect with phalanx shot was honestly insane!

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Out of curiosity, does ||bonding|| with the gods give some kind of bonus?

floral nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Only a warm fuzzy feeling in your heart

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But for real, you get ||chibi art and a short bond message in the keepsake case||

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 6:28 AM

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I'll take it

fallen canyon Dec 9, 2020, 6:28 AM

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sounds good to me

lyric quiver Dec 9, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Dio deserves it dusa

daring delta Dec 9, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Don't all of them?

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 7:08 AM

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I don't believe so. And if so, Poseidon's has a far knockback

broken tusk Dec 9, 2020, 10:24 AM

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If I stack over 100% chance to get a rare boon, does it get converted into epic% ?

upbeat mason Dec 9, 2020, 10:25 AM

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i don't think so

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...and how do you get over 100% anyway, chaos?

broken tusk Dec 9, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Mirror has 40, then chaos has two boons I think, then I believe Poseidon or Dio has one more

tired slate Dec 9, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Do attack buffs also apply to dash-attacks?

upbeat mason Dec 9, 2020, 10:28 AM

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yes

tired slate Dec 9, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Oh my gosh, i've been doing this all wrong when it comes to using ||Varatha|| then

upbeat mason Dec 9, 2020, 10:29 AM

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yeah spear wants to dash attack around

tired slate Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 AM

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The ||triple dash attack hammer buff|| is amazing, i thought that was the only boost

glossy marsh Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Well, just made it (and died to) Theseus and the Minotaur.

tired slate Dec 9, 2020, 10:31 AM

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I have a tip but i'll spoiler it in case you want to figure your own strategy out ||take theseus out first, Asterious is SO easy to avoid.|| I've never lost their battle since then.

silk swift Dec 9, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Over 100ish clears I've done it that way maybe 5 times. Just giving a different opinion. If it works for you, slay on

buoyant quarry Dec 9, 2020, 10:56 AM

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and i have 2 titan blood righht now

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what should I try next?

dense laurel Dec 9, 2020, 10:58 AM

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||final boss name is spoiller, plz tag it||

buoyant quarry Dec 9, 2020, 10:59 AM

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lmao

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r u kidding me

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who else would it be

dense laurel Dec 9, 2020, 10:59 AM

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yep read the rules

buoyant quarry Dec 9, 2020, 10:59 AM

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huge turn off to join this discord lmao

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cringe mods

silk swift Dec 9, 2020, 11:02 AM

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You should try being less of a douchebag

pastel cipher Dec 9, 2020, 11:15 AM

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This channel is specifically for newer players who don't want to be spoiled. Please follow rule 1 of the server be kind @buoyant quarry

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And thus the final boss is considered spoilers here. Even if it seems obvious to you ^_^

hardy dawn Dec 9, 2020, 2:13 PM

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so i just fought ||charon|| and got the ||loyalty card||, but i didnt even get the chance to use it bc i was immediately sent to the next room, which was ||minotaur boss fight||. is that supposed to happen? bc the transition seemed a little weird

normal arrow Dec 9, 2020, 2:14 PM

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it's within the realm of possibility

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sounds rough though

daring delta Dec 9, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Yeah, when you pick it up you transit to the next room, at least I did. There will be 2 more shoppa, bare minimum. Not counting the purple bowls. Don't worry

unborn musk Dec 9, 2020, 3:10 PM

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@buoyant quarry We put the spoiler rules in place, not the mods. Cringe devs amirite? 😄

stray fiber Dec 9, 2020, 3:16 PM

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purple bowls?

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Oh the wells nvm.

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 4:46 PM

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You always go to the next room. Do your shopping before ||you do your borrowing.||

wanton tree Dec 9, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Should I use privileged status or family favorite?

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 5:22 PM

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ask yourself if you can consistently apply two curses your whole run every time

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its 40% damage with two curses vs 20-30% with 4-6 gods

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normal full run has 4 gods and hermes for 5

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but you can force a 5th and maybe a 6th god with keepsakes

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I go with family favorite for now

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but priv status is more strategic

gray haven Dec 9, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Priv is for certain builds, yeah.

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Like if you know you're going for Weak + Hangover, Privileged Status is just way better.

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 5:25 PM

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is there a good list of all the curses that apply? @gray haven

gray haven Dec 9, 2020, 5:25 PM

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But if you need t2 boons to apply status curses, Family Favorite is usually the better choice because it's just more consistent.

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List of status effects that count as status curses for Privileged Status: https://hades.gamepedia.com/Status_effects#Status_Curses

Hades Wiki

Status effects

Status Effects are conditions which affect enemies or Zagreus. These often debilitate enemies in some various way (debuffs), but can also provide positive benefits (buffs), in particular to Zagreus.

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Weak, Ruptured, Hangover, Marked, Jolted, Exposed, Doom, Chill.

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 5:26 PM

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can we pin?

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 5:39 PM

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It's not that hard to remember. You got Weak, Hangover, Doom, Chill, and the T2 are Exposed, Jolted, Marked and Rupture

unborn musk Dec 9, 2020, 5:44 PM

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gray haven List of status effects that count as status curses for Privileged Status: https:...

jovial pelican Dec 9, 2020, 5:47 PM

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hello, how o you unlock hypnos hearts? cant get a conversation with thanatos. same with poseidon. i caught a hell lot of fish and caught one prior to encounter but he wont notice.

prime fox Dec 9, 2020, 5:52 PM

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jovial pelican hello, how o you unlock hypnos hearts? cant get a conversation with thanatos. sa...

you need to beat the third world boss to unlock the heart

floral nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 5:54 PM

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What, no?

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 5:54 PM

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||so ive beat hades three times so far but i still havnt gotten the reveal button for my weapons any clue why ||

floral nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 5:54 PM

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His heart isn't related to the ||autograph||

prime fox Dec 9, 2020, 5:56 PM

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||I'm talking about the ambrosia||

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 5:57 PM

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do u need to unlock all the weapons for it @floral nacelle ?

floral nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 5:57 PM

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I don't think weapon unlocks are related to the heart

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I think it's just RNG conversations

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 5:57 PM

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no not the heart

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my question i asked before

floral nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Oh, right, for that, you have to unlock all weapons to show the aspects

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 5:58 PM

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oh ok thanks

floral nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Plus do another run after that for the Skelly conversation

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 5:59 PM

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oh allrite

mellow star Dec 9, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I forgot marked counted

jovial pelican Dec 9, 2020, 6:04 PM

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prime fox you need to beat the third world boss to unlock the heart

im at 40+ completed runs atm

prime fox Dec 9, 2020, 6:06 PM

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jovial pelican im at 40+ completed runs atm

did you trade all your ambrosia?

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 6:07 PM

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floral nacelle Plus do another run after that for the Skelly conversation

Oh. I thought he just decided to do that randomly

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Goot to know though

jovial pelican Dec 9, 2020, 6:10 PM

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i have enough ambrosia its just thanatos wont speak about hypnos.

floral nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Hypnos' favor is the true final boss

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But seriously, I think you're just experiencing bad RNG, since you also need to encounter Thanatos in the run before

jovial pelican Dec 9, 2020, 6:16 PM

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i had encountered him many times. its about 15 runs since i maxed unlocked relationships with hypnos.

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it feels like this conversation has lower priority to appear or completely rng.

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or game just trolls me.

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I think it's low priority

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 6:35 PM

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hypnos rate increased in patch notes, so the developers know it's low priority

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 7:02 PM

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I just had a blade rift run with knockback, and it was incredible! ||Hades|| didn't stand a chance!

livid ledge Dec 9, 2020, 7:07 PM

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What’s the best cast against bosses? I like Demeter but the last boss seems to shrug it off.

floral nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Try demeter again but with crystal clarity (artemis duo)

livid ledge Dec 9, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Any reliable way to get Duos or is that RNG?

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or like at least a higher chance

floral nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 7:09 PM

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RNG once you've fulfilled the prereqs

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plus the mirror can give +duo/legendary chance

daring delta Dec 9, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Get the mirror boons reroll, it helps

livid ledge Dec 9, 2020, 7:11 PM

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oh yeah I should reroll the mirror and take back some darkness that I actually want to use

haven’t unlocked the last tier in the mirror yet

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Wait, “mirror boons reroll” sounds like something else

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 7:12 PM

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It is the last tier

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 7:16 PM

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The very las perk in the mirror, lets you reroll boon choices

dense laurel Dec 9, 2020, 7:16 PM

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theres 2 of them, the one they saying is fated persuasion

livid ledge Dec 9, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Alright I will just need a few more keys. Probably this run plus a few trades could do it.

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 7:29 PM

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If you don't have the "bosses give gemstones" upgrade yet, I highly recommend it

livid ledge Dec 9, 2020, 8:02 PM

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is that a mirror thing? i don't think i have that one

floral nacelle Dec 9, 2020, 8:03 PM

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no, it's from the house contractor

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I think you need to buy his fancy desk for it to show

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Is there a way to tell || if Charon is willing to fight you/ have the money out to steal? I hate going to the shop and missing an encounter, but I would like to take advantage of the Charon fight more often.||

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Well, I mean, if you dont see the bag then you cant fight

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That's it

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The bag only has a 22% chance to appear in mid-biome shops

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 8:23 PM

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I didn't know if the laurel color had anything to happen

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Sometimes its blue and sometimes its gold, And I didn't know what those meant

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I haven't been able to confirm one way or the other

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Blue Laurel rooms have meta rewards. Gold Laurel rooms have in-run rewards. The shop is special, it will have the same colour laurel as whatever else is offered

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That's it

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 8:25 PM

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OOO

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Gotcha. That makes a lot more sense.

buoyant thunder Dec 9, 2020, 8:27 PM

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What do you mean by laurel?

waxen sapphire Dec 9, 2020, 8:27 PM

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the leafy thing wrapped around the bubble that contains the room reward

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 8:30 PM

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https://imgix.bustle.com/uploads/image/2020/10/8/8e6bbb62-8230-412c-8893-8eccdb349c74-download.png?w=710&h=433.22033898305085&auto=format,compress&cs=srgb&q=70&fit=max&crop=faces

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 8:31 PM

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You can't get more than 2 Hermes boons?!?

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What a ripoff

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I love Hermes

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 8:32 PM

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You can get 3, there is a chance for a boon at the final shop

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Pretty sure you can totally reroll a Hermes boon into a regular boon though

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 8:33 PM

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I bet they meant the opposite. You can't reroll a regular boon into Hermes

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Just a guess tho

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Hermes and Hammers are special in that the game will always try to give them to you if you dont have them, so there's a very good chance you'll see them again if you skip one for any reason

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 8:33 PM

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I just want all the Hammers

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Those are also 2 per run, with the chance of an anvil in the last shop

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Never take the anvil, though, it's a trap

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I always gamble with the anvil

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I can't help myself

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It's worked out most of the time. Not always. But most of the time

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Hypnos spoiler ||Asterius just gave me his autograph and I love this game so much||

livid ledge Dec 9, 2020, 8:53 PM

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ugh so close with this last run. probably 1/5 of the last boss health bar remaining.

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was too sloppy at the beginning

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:22 PM

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spoiler, ||hades has two phases...||

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lol

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:22 PM

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You need to actually use the spoiler feature

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That's not cool, Usui

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:23 PM

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okay, I fixed it

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😄

pure inlet Dec 9, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Will ||Thanatos|| ever show up again?! I met him, died in the room with him and then he visited ||Sisiphus|| but it doesn’t register. How often does he actually turn up?

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:24 PM

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y||es||

livid ledge Dec 9, 2020, 9:25 PM

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uhh i'm not gonna click that, yeesh

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Yeah, it's super hard to participate in this community without spoilers.

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Like, not just here. Anywhere.

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I straight up thought I was safe at a certain point, and then I got so many spoilers.

livid ledge Dec 9, 2020, 9:28 PM

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the reddit is the same. i got spoiled about a story beat by fanart

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Yep. I'm glad nothing super big got spoiled for me, but there's just so much content in this game that it feels more inevitable than the average game.

daring delta Dec 9, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Never Google anything

pure inlet Dec 9, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I’m at 40 runs and getting increasingly frustrated at this game because it takes so long to get to the end and then because I’m not good at it I die. ||I want to hear Hades sarcy comments at my home improvements, will I be able to hear them without intentionally dying before the final boss?||

daring delta Dec 9, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I tried to look Up an actor once and got the tv series spoiled

dense laurel Dec 9, 2020, 9:35 PM

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pure inlet I’m at 40 runs and getting increasingly frustrated at this game because it takes...

just use god mode if u rly stuck no worries

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:35 PM

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@pure inlet ||Yes, you'll still get them.||

pure inlet Dec 9, 2020, 9:35 PM

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||but he’s not there to say them||

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Isn’t god mode just 1% defence every time you die with it on?

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:36 PM

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||He's only not there if you die at the final boss. You'll still hear his commentary if you defeat him||

dense laurel Dec 9, 2020, 9:36 PM

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yes, dmg reduction

daring delta Dec 9, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Yeah but it starts at 20%

dense laurel Dec 9, 2020, 9:36 PM

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startss with 30% iirc

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oh its 20?

daring delta Dec 9, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Idk

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Either

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Never used it

dense laurel Dec 9, 2020, 9:37 PM

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either way, it will help you to go through the game anyways

pure inlet Dec 9, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Is there not a penalty?

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:41 PM

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nope

pure inlet Dec 9, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Or is it just an internal feeling of shame

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:41 PM

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the only penalty is you can't undo the increment, you can only turn it on or off

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:41 PM

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It's for people who wouldn't beat Hades without it.

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:42 PM

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honestly if you really feel like you aint improving, go for it, use the godmode to get better and one day you will get to the point that there's no more use for it

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:42 PM

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it only increments if you die, so if you're good, it'll stop incrementing at the level that matches your skill level, approximately

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Like, if you know you don't have the patience to put in hours and hours, (which is totally valid), then the mode is there to ensure you will eventually get through after so many attempts.

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:42 PM

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mine is hovering at 54% right now, and I now clear almost every run

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Alas, some people in this very chat cant even beat the game with God Mode at 60+%

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:43 PM

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personally it took over 100 tries to defeat the end boss to me, i started a new save file because i understood where i did bad and got to ||dad|| in 40 tries and got him out the way on the 50th

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:43 PM

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you wanted a save file with less failure?

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lol

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:43 PM

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nah

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i just wanted a new chance to give my nectar to other people first

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:43 PM

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nectar is easy to get

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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in the late game? nope

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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i never had a nectar problem

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just buy it at the store you dolt

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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say that again when you need over 100 nectar at once

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Late game, nectar is hard to come by. Mostly because I spend it all diamonds

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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when do you need 100 nectar at once/

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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^ this

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Lol Usui

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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cosmetics, resource manager

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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You poor sweet summer child

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:44 PM

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haha

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they dont know the pain

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:45 PM

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i'm at relationship maxes with everyone, just waiting for their unlocks

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:45 PM

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waiting?

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you are not actively doing their favors?

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:45 PM

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yeah, not sure what unlocks it further

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:45 PM

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they tell you that they want you to do a favor for them

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(wellmost of em)

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:45 PM

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I'm doing their favors, but it's doling them out slow

pure inlet Dec 9, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Guess it’s just getting to the point of not enjoying the House parts because ||as a result of me consistently reaching Hades, he’s not back home||. Also is there any rhyme or reason to other people not being at home? ||Patroclus asked about Achilles but he wasn’t there the next three times||

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:46 PM

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it's rng

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:46 PM

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The game deliberately tries to keep you from rushing stories all at once

old skiff Dec 9, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Yeah

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:47 PM

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i bought enough nectar to have 10 before each run and gave them out to as many people as possible every run... never had a nectar problem

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:47 PM

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bought?

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:47 PM

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yeah

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Rolling in keys over here

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:47 PM

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gems to keys, keys to nectar

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:47 PM

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👀

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:47 PM

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How do you have so many gems? Are you just not decorating the house?

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:47 PM

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^

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:47 PM

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zero decorations

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Ahhh

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Boring

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:47 PM

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thats sad

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Alexa, play despacito

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:48 PM

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my lounge is decorated now because Dusa was having trouble keeping it clean

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but nothing else

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:48 PM

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ima party with my crystal ball in the lounde and read the time off the clock a few more times

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training for fresh file speedruns after getting over 80 wins in a savefile is... sad

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just seeing how empty the house is

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:49 PM

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I also have done several low heat runs to gain more darkness and gems because a certain favor needed a lot of darkness

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so i have tons of gems

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Ehh, at this point, the convo is moving away from "new players" territory

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:50 PM

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I also go for nectar or keys every time I could for the mirror rerolls

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:50 PM

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We should probably jump over to the main channel

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:50 PM

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you only have a ton cause you arent doing the main game of hades lol, the rogue-lite running is just a mini game besides the house decorating and visual novel aspects

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:50 PM

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if you say so

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getting thru relationships fast instead of decorating hades seems like playing the main game

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 9:51 PM

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not even allowed to joke

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:51 PM

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when I have no need of nectars, I'll have a ton of gems to decorate

old skiff Dec 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I have no use for ||ambrosia|| -_-

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Trust us, you'll want to save that

old skiff Dec 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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It’s worthless junk I’ll throw it in with all the others

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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||you don't need any more blood too?||

old skiff Dec 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Wait why?-

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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did you max all your ||companions||?

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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End game relationship progress

old skiff Dec 9, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Eh I try not to spend too much of it on blood just in case

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I’ve maxed out all ||comapnions|| and friendships

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 9:53 PM

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hm

native knoll Dec 9, 2020, 9:58 PM

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eris is good stacking dots? or just zeus atk and w/e the rest?

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Eris is good with everything

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The damage boost is universal, so just go nuts

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Legit dont think it's possible to build Eris "wrong", just remember to always keep the buff up and watch everything die!

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:02 PM

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UGH

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I'm going for a run that has Stubborn Resistance in it

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And I just struggle to handle using on one Resistance on ||Hades||

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(my b, sorry)

native knoll Dec 9, 2020, 10:03 PM

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thx, yeah eris is really op lol, eris, chaos and chiron are my fav

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:03 PM

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maybe get skellie's tooth for the endfight?

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:04 PM

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^

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:04 PM

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or try for chaos' extra life legendary

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:04 PM

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I'm embarrased to admit

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But I got Chaos' legendary

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And then wasted it on the Hydra of all things

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:04 PM

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F

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:04 PM

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that can happen, no need to be embarrassed about it

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maybe go for a safe build?

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:05 PM

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And Skelly's tooth isn't super helpful for me.

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:05 PM

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athena-artemis-dio?

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Yeah, I def need to rely on Athena more

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:05 PM

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skelly's tooth is another DD tho

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:05 PM

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I know

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:05 PM

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you just said you struggle on ||the last boss with just one||

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:05 PM

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if you have the acorn maxed tho go for that

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:05 PM

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100 HP usually is much less than I'm used to in mine

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I haven't tried Acorn. I think I have 2 stars.

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Best idea is to just pray for Pat then

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Usually I like to rock Broken Spear

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:06 PM

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since it can save 200HP

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I like broken spear

old skiff Dec 9, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Skelly tooth is really good for stubborn defiance

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I use it all the time in the final fight

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Gotta love Pat

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:06 PM

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skelly's tooth is kinda a trap for late game runs

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I'm just trying to get all the mirror aspects I've been missing out on

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Maybe I should try doing everything except Stubborn defiance on this alt

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:07 PM

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pattie is good for styx, bad for ||dad||

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:07 PM

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And then try Stubborn defiance + all my preferred options

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:08 PM

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since you are only safe from continuous damage, but ||dad|| only hits like once and hits hard

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->which makes acorn such an S-rank keepsake for the fight

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Oh yeah

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I guess that makes sense

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Usually, I'm playing with fists, and I like to bob and weave on either side of my enemy

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But when I get hit, I find myself getting hit multiple times.

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:10 PM

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fists is beautiful but really not recommended with acorn that is true

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except for talos + strong cast build

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:10 PM

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But I'm trying this run with ||excalibur||

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:10 PM

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hmmm

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Which I like, but I'm not really optimized gameplay wise. I'll try running my Acorn up to three stars and report back

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:11 PM

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which weapons are you most comfortable with? fists and swords?

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I'm also gonna split this into two runs.

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Fists absolutely. I

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I'm up to 8 heat with them

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:11 PM

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uhh thats nice

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i love fists but i hate higher heat with them

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Everything else is at 1 or 2.

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I go for speed and dodge rate. Also, Artemis is amazing, since you're getting so many hits in. The crits become very high chance

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:13 PM

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artemis call is highkey underrated too

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Only if you max it tho

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:13 PM

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if you go for her, her call saves you so much time and hurt

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:13 PM

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It's really used differently than the other calls.

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:13 PM

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well her normal calls are nice for normal encounters

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Fair

native knoll Dec 9, 2020, 10:14 PM

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got an heroic swift strike/heroic lightning strike and a delta chamber on eris

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:14 PM

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ultimate just gets rid of a whole stage without any damage taken

native knoll Dec 9, 2020, 10:14 PM

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thing is melting

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:15 PM

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else maybe shield for the SD run

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but idk how comfortable you feel with it...

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 10:15 PM

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So it's funny. Shield is my least used weapon. But I do rather okay with it.

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I kinda wanna pump some more blood into it tho

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:18 PM

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it's a very safe weapon for the endbossfight if you get charged shot and find the right angle/space in the middle bottom of the map where you can take no damage while firing the bull rush

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Shield is a weird play style for me

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It's only safe if you play it safe

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Which is a weird play style

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:27 PM

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yes

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wish it would feel more like a shield and less like a clunky sword that you can block with

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Does it block the ||green nova explosions?||

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:29 PM

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no

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 10:29 PM

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It does actually

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:29 PM

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o.O

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since when

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Since always

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:29 PM

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it blocks everything

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Yeah I wish there wasn't a swing first then block, I wish it was block on press and only attacks with a release

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except for cyclops heads

harsh leaf Dec 9, 2020, 10:29 PM

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leaden whale Yeah I wish there wasn't a swing first then block, I wish it was block on press ...

You can do it faster out of a dash attack

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 PM

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It's still a swing first

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 PM

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the attack part of the shield doesnt feel like a shield

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I mean

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 PM

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special? i like, makes sense
attack? clunky fancy sword?

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 PM

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how would you attack with a shield

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 PM

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yes

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Shield bash

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 PM

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yes

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:31 PM

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I think the attack part works

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:31 PM

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bash into the enemies and not... into the ground before them or hit them like it's a sword?

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:31 PM

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shield dash attack is very much a shield bash

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:32 PM

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idk hidden shield especially feels like a clunky sword

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:33 PM

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I haven't gotten a hidden shield clear yet

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:33 PM

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but thats just when comparing the different attackstyles of the 6 weapons you have

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Mostly because I haven't gotten shield bonus many times.

heady comet Dec 9, 2020, 10:33 PM

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hidden shield feels like a battering ram

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:33 PM

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I always play the dark thirst weapon.

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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like bow and gun feel marginally different despite being pretty similar ranged weapons irl

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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use dionysus cast + stygian soul with hidden shield

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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malphon is a whole new weapon

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Is Stygian better for hidden shield?

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:34 PM

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spear can feel different if you play it different and sword shield are just idk

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:35 PM

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stygian soul is great for casts that take a long time to come back

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Is ares good for hidden shield?

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:36 PM

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it's interesting on special

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:36 PM

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what ever you do, do not take poseidon attack

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Is there such a thing as hunting blades with hidden shield?

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That would push them out of the rush aoe right?

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:37 PM

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which weapon feels good with poseidon attack?

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talos? rail?

leaden whale Dec 9, 2020, 10:37 PM

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world splitter sord

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yeet stick

subtle granite Dec 9, 2020, 10:38 PM

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YEET STICK

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knockback 300 sticks

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i could imagine poseidon attack to feel disgusting with hidden sword if you really like your combos

dense laurel Dec 9, 2020, 10:53 PM

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u still pushing them out of range

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Poseidon attack might work if you put in on Bow or Rail

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Okay, so this keeps happening to me on multiple runs. ||I'm past credits, so take that into account|| I'll be in the middle of a run, and suddenly see myself with the invulnerable shield, usually after getting hit.

dusk elk Dec 9, 2020, 11:12 PM

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poseidon attack is only good for meme super soaker

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 11:12 PM

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It's not all the times I'm hit, just some of the times

dusk elk Dec 9, 2020, 11:12 PM

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that’s what happens when you take more than 30% of your max hp in a short time

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Whoops

dusk elk Dec 9, 2020, 11:12 PM

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turn on PL to disable this

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 11:13 PM

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I had no idea. Yeah, probably should. Feels cheaty

dusk elk Dec 9, 2020, 11:13 PM

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the only way to turn on PL is hell mode

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Ooh. Then um, on my second save file then

echo plinth Dec 9, 2020, 11:38 PM

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are the chambers the rooms? or are they the entire floor?

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im a little bit confused on what it means and i keep calling them rooms like its isaac but this isnt isaac

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 11:39 PM

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A chamber is one room

echo plinth Dec 9, 2020, 11:39 PM

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ooohh

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so what are the floors called?

dense laurel Dec 9, 2020, 11:40 PM

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u mean the whole zone?

echo plinth Dec 9, 2020, 11:40 PM

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yeah

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sorry id ont want to look on the wiki because im afraid ill spoil myself

dense laurel Dec 9, 2020, 11:41 PM

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biomes i guess, but just call it their names since theres only 4 anyways

echo plinth Dec 9, 2020, 11:41 PM

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oh right

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 11:41 PM

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If you're really worried about spoilers, I'd say even here is a little risky.

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We do our best, but everyone has a different threshold for spoilers.

echo plinth Dec 9, 2020, 11:41 PM

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ive gotten to stage 4 so i think im fine

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 11:41 PM

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And this game is very, very easy to spoil.

echo plinth Dec 9, 2020, 11:41 PM

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i just havent beat it yet

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 11:42 PM

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No, you aren't

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Trust me. I thought the same as you

echo plinth Dec 9, 2020, 11:42 PM

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ill take your word on it then LOL

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 11:42 PM

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And then I still got some spoilers.

echo plinth Dec 9, 2020, 11:42 PM

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i wanted to ask way earlier because i didnt understand some of the wording with the mirror upgrades

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Totes gotcha

echo plinth Dec 9, 2020, 11:42 PM

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i thought death defiance was one time use and i had to keep rebuying it at first 😭

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thank you though

dense laurel Dec 9, 2020, 11:44 PM

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eh u learn as u play anyways, trial and error

sullen lava Dec 9, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Acorn really works. I got like halfway || through dad's first lifebar before I started taking damage. ||\

spiral tartan Dec 10, 2020, 12:24 AM

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is there any way to see what weapons you've cleared what floors with before picking and starting?

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 12:26 AM

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there is a contractor unlock that lets you see summaries in the files room

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it'll have details on your runs, but it's locked behind a story point

dense laurel Dec 10, 2020, 12:27 AM

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if u defeat final boss once, u can unlock a pact system

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u can see which reward u havet got yet

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 12:27 AM

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^ that will also be a way to see what weapons at what difficulties you've cleared

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the game is actually barely even starting after you kill the final boss the first time

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so if you're close to your first clear, know that you're like only 20% thru the story or something

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so just keep grinding runs and getting darkness to upgrade your mirror

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unlock all the weapons asap if you haven't yet

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 12:46 AM

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first clear is a lot less then 20% through the story

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 12:46 AM

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you think?

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 12:46 AM

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The progress to get the first clear is harder than subsequent clears

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I think 20% is apt

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Of course, that's only counting main story

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 12:47 AM

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i consider the epilogue part of the main story

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Haven't gotten there yet, so can't speak to that

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I'm working on it tho

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 12:48 AM

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how far in are you?

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 12:48 AM

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A few runs past credits

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I've been more focused on grinding away at some prophecies tbh

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Chilling out for a while before I go make the epilogue my main focus.

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Doing some ||Romancing||

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 12:50 AM

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||who you romancing first?||

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 12:50 AM

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||I already bedded Meg, but that's only because Than is never home :'(||

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 12:51 AM

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just because the last 5% of the story takes a lot longer to unlock doesn't make it more than 5% of the story.

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 12:51 AM

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||Meg is fantastic tho, so it's cool||

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 12:51 AM

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||than is refusing to give me the dialogue trigger for the favor||

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 12:51 AM

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no regrets Goht

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 12:51 AM

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||i like the whip noises when you bed meg lol||

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 12:52 AM

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||I think I got the favor done? Maybe? He was just never around so I finally gave the Ambrosia to some other people||

pure inlet Dec 10, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Ok lads, ||I’m just before Hades|| with the bow, 3 death defiances, and a whole load of Dionysus and Demeter boons with a couple of Athena and Artemis for good measure. Wish me luck and any advice?

old escarp Dec 10, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Good luck! Bouldy believes in you bouldy

pure inlet Dec 10, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Holy

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Thank you bouldy

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I did it

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🙂

old escarp Dec 10, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Congrats!

pure inlet Dec 10, 2020, 2:52 AM

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I’m free

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I lost all my death defiance ||in the second act||

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I’m shaking

floral nacelle Dec 10, 2020, 2:54 AM

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The important thing is that you made it

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The only hp that matters is the last one

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 3:02 AM

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||the second act was a shock the first time i got to it||

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||although the lack of a third health bar was also just as surprising||

dense laurel Dec 10, 2020, 3:05 AM

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||there is the third at one point||

buoyant thunder Dec 10, 2020, 5:39 AM

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What are some decent strategies for zag fists?

floral nacelle Dec 10, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Equip lambent plume, get high dodge chance

buoyant thunder Dec 10, 2020, 5:41 AM

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This sounds silly, but what is dodge exactly? Is that a chance to not get hit?

floral nacelle Dec 10, 2020, 5:42 AM

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That's the way I understand dodge chance

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:48 AM

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dodge chance is your chance to not get hit yes

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so it's effectively global damage reduction

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a 20% dodge chance means 80% damage taken, on average

buoyant thunder Dec 10, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Thanks for the clarification misty

wanton tree Dec 10, 2020, 7:29 AM

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which Dionisius duo boon should I try to get?

muted latch Dec 10, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Scintillating Feast which requires Zeus for trippy shot

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very strong on cast builds like Poseidon or Hera

wanton tree Dec 10, 2020, 7:38 AM

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woah it seems op

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will try it

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thank you!

cursive storm Dec 10, 2020, 8:27 AM

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guys

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how to unlock the old woman

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 8:28 AM

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meet the final boss once

cursive storm Dec 10, 2020, 8:28 AM

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yeah

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i lost

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then?

cursive storm Dec 10, 2020, 8:28 AM

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upbeat mason meet the final boss once

i already met the final boss

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 8:28 AM

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she should appear in your run

cursive storm Dec 10, 2020, 8:28 AM

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ok thanks

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another one

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thanatos

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how to gift him the juice?

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i cant find him in the house

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 8:29 AM

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after you met him in your run he should be in the west wing

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i think he only spawn in the house if he spawned during the run

cursive storm Dec 10, 2020, 8:30 AM

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ok thanks

livid ledge Dec 10, 2020, 9:09 AM

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I really feel like the mini game shouldn’t rely on audio so much. I used to fail alll the time cuz I play on mute (parenting)

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 9:09 AM

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the fishing game?

dense laurel Dec 10, 2020, 9:09 AM

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wat mini game?

livid ledge Dec 10, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Yeah

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 9:09 AM

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you can look for the flash of light as well

dense laurel Dec 10, 2020, 9:09 AM

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if fishing, just use controller, it got vibration

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 9:09 AM

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although i prefer listening for the ding

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i know some look for the visual cue more

livid ledge Dec 10, 2020, 9:09 AM

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it’s much easier with audio

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Really?

calm lotus Dec 10, 2020, 10:42 AM

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What are the onion shape thing when you open up the abilities pop-up? I find I can turn each on/off with onion shaped thing. What is that?

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golden color onion symbol on the ability icon

dense laurel Dec 10, 2020, 10:49 AM

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dat is for the results showcase, doesnt matter really

calm lotus Dec 10, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Still no idea what results showcase, but if it doesn't matter, fine then

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thanks

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 11:01 AM

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it's just for displaying a specific boon or whatever else on your victory screen

wanton tree Dec 10, 2020, 11:11 AM

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can you get 100% dodge chance?

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 11:17 AM

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yes

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lambent plume + maxed zag fist + Greater evasion + second wind

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the catch is its really really hard to build

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https://clips.twitch.tv/KitschySpikyTomatoSpicyBoy

Twitch

DeliciousCrepes - Dodge is Additive

Watch DeliciousCrepes's clip titled "Dodge is Additive"

▶ Play video

fleet dew Dec 10, 2020, 12:08 PM

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what is winter harvest boons requirements

sullen granite Dec 10, 2020, 12:15 PM

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fleet dew what is winter harvest boons requirements

||two of three:
Arctic Blast, Ravenous Will, Killing Freeze||

According to wiki

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The codex will show these requirements btw, for future reference

stone crag Dec 10, 2020, 1:05 PM

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no way

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Weapons are upgradable?

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 1:25 PM

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is the sword the best weapon

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 1:26 PM

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define best

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 1:26 PM

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most damage and easiest to use i guess?

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also should i unlock talents or try get all weapons first

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 1:26 PM

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...either way
its not the top speedrun weapon, nor is it the weapon with the highest heat clear

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i’d unlock weapons first

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 1:27 PM

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alright ty

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 1:27 PM

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easiest is really relative

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i personally find the bow easiest

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 1:29 PM

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if i leave mid game can i start at the same level

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i want to play another game

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but have a really good run rn

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@upbeat mason

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 1:29 PM

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pause the game

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if you can quit then you can safely quit

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 1:30 PM

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okay sweet

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 1:30 PM

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if you clear the chamber you can quit the game and it'll save where you left off

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 1:30 PM

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okay thanks 😄

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this game is super fun

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 1:30 PM

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if the only option is give up then try clearing the room

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 1:30 PM

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give up erases the run

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quitting saves your current chamber

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i think you have to re-fight the enemies in some cases tho, had to fight the megagorgon and skull-brother twice cause i needed to leave and saw that i could quit lmao

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Hey so about that run with stubborn defiance

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 1:32 PM

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hey there :D

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did you nail the first run with DDs but with the other mirror aspects?

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 1:33 PM

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||Just did it with fists on 0 heat. Easiest run so far. I didn't think fists were a good fit, but I took less than 50 hp in the final boss fight. I had great Artemis and Athena boons and I just melted dad||

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Yeah I did that

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 1:33 PM

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sullen lava ||Just did it with fists on 0 heat. Easiest run so far. I didn't think fists wer...

omg gg!

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Didn't die once during that whole run. I thought I had to play a style other than my own favored style, but I just psyched myself out I guess

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It shows me just how far I've come with the fists. I'm not just punching blind anymore, I have a deliberate bob and weave approach. Having Athena's call to just get in and wail at times was also very super helpful.

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 1:36 PM

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that sounds fantastic - and the athena call with fists makes sese wow i never thought of that

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i guess SD really shows how far one has come :)

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 1:37 PM

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It does! I think I'll still switch over to standard death defiance, but I'm feeling really good about future runs with gauntlets now. I feel like I broke out of my own head.

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I see a lot of people call them a no-think weapon, but I feel like I've proven to myself that's not the case now.

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 1:38 PM

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no-think weapon?

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you can say that about any of the weapons, at the strt everybody button smashes and later on as you "get gud" there will always be some strat lol

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thats why i personally love fists too, and spear

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but i'm very glad to hear that you've come so far, may the gods give you more of these kinds of runs! friendly

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Thank you! 🙂

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 1:42 PM

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sure thing? :)

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 1:57 PM

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im having trouble on the bone hydra

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i used spear on this playthrough

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any advice?

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ive lost to bone hydra twice now

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 1:57 PM

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which phase did you have troubles with

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 1:58 PM

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just everything man

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taking so much damage

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 1:58 PM

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generally you want to focus on hiding behind the pillar and attack when there’s opportunity, usually after headslam

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 1:58 PM

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which spear? normal or different aspect?

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 1:58 PM

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idk im not too far into the game

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just a spear

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i dont know if there is any other spear

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 1:59 PM

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during the summon you want to take them one by one from the furthest one to the side

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 1:59 PM

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the little ones?

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 1:59 PM

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the other heads

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 1:59 PM

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oh yea

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 2:00 PM

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a funny thing about spear is if you stand dead center in the stage, you can outrange the hydra and delete his attack with yours

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 2:00 PM

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oh okay

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what weapon should i use this run

upbeat mason Dec 10, 2020, 2:01 PM

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just follow the dark thirst for now

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the dark squiggly aura

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it gives bonus resource

lavish grail Dec 10, 2020, 2:01 PM

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oh okay

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the weapon with the aura is locked

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should i just go sword

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 2:08 PM

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if you feel most confident and comfortable with it? yea

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 2:29 PM

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does crit procs on dios poison?

calm lotus Dec 10, 2020, 2:49 PM

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nector and ambrosia can both be gifted, then how do I choose which to give?

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 2:54 PM

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i wish my english was good enough to explain but you always gift nectar first then you need to fulfill thier favor to gift ambrosia.

muted latch Dec 10, 2020, 2:54 PM

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you give nectar first

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you cant choose

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past a certain stage you give ambrosia

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 3:00 PM

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i think i got a bug.

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in a Theseus fight when bull charges theseus.

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i killed theseus during bull charge and he kept running circles around the place he died.

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lol.

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 3:02 PM

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did you interrupt them when they were trying to work together?

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some of their moves require them to come together

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 3:03 PM

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yea i interupted theseus by killing him.

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he died to dios poison.

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 3:03 PM

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oop

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might explain asterius stutter since he was still required to finish the move but i'm not sure bout that

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 3:05 PM

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yea it looks like he lost his artificial mind.

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 4:32 PM

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one time I killed theseus and he kept talking after he died

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Only one time... I see

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It happens all the time

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He's so annoying he speaks even after he dies

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 4:35 PM

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|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328246239160434691/784916839141736518/theseus.mp4 || (hidden aspect + ||companion|| spoilers)

▶ Play video

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 4:50 PM

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beowulf pog.

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I finish this fights last phase same way every time I just one shot him when he ||prays to the gods||

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 4:54 PM

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yea i used to focus bull first but now i developed a strategy to damage them both so i can do as much as i can damage with my summon.

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 4:54 PM

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same

dense laurel Dec 10, 2020, 4:55 PM

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i never chase bull first

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 4:55 PM

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idk i dont have consistent strat against pact theseus.

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yet.

stray fiber Dec 10, 2020, 4:58 PM

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||I used to focus Theseus first but people here told me to focus Asterius and it seems to work reasonably well, now I can't remember which one was easier for me I just focus the bull and then the king. Also chariot Theseus feels easier than regular Theseus.||

dense laurel Dec 10, 2020, 4:58 PM

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yea it is easier, normal theseus is more annoying

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I always focused Asterius first... SO I CAN BULLY THESEUS AFTER

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 5:04 PM

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in most cases bull gets close on its own and thes has a shild so its kinda natural to me to kill frontline first.

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pact thes tho is 100% ignorable.

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bull gets gigabuffed and thes does literally nothing.

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he acts as a trap lol.

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:16 PM

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||chariot theseus is easier and less cheesy than regular theseus for sure||

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I agree

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:17 PM

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||gold armor Asterius isn't that worse, just avoid the big spin, otherwise seems the same||

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:17 PM

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||less of a pushover||

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||the big spin leaves him open||

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:18 PM

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||the hit aura when he lunges is also something you easily forget when taking on asterius||

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:18 PM

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||normal thesues spends the whole stamina bar with his shield up sniping you from who knows where when you're trying to focus on Asterius. Chariot Theseus gives giant warning areas for his bombs that are easy to avoid, and he doesn't have a shield, so no blocking for half his health bar||

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:18 PM

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||nah I got used to it since im fighting only them now maybe ill never see normal asterius and theseus again lol||

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||even in my weapons with low heat like 3 i put 6 so i can fight them instead||

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:19 PM

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||not that it's bad, just you really forget that this is an actually harder fight since most of the moves look and feel the same which may get your guard down and get a few hits in hah||

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:19 PM

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||EM hydra feels like zero change, actually maybe easier since smaller area||

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||Fury sisters are a little harder, but not that bad||

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:20 PM

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||EM2|| with ||HS|| sucks tho

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i thought for a second that you said furry sisters

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:20 PM

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||what is HS?||

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:20 PM

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||i wouldnt say the same about hydra bcs of my playstyle i run into lava a lot||

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:20 PM

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||hightened security, higher magma damage||

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:20 PM

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||hs is +400% traps dmg. 15 dmg lava ticks lol||

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ah... I don't think I get more than like two magma hits in that fight... not sure what you guys are doing lol

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:21 PM

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my feet are sobbing thinking of ||EM2 HS||

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if you hit magma once you already get massive damage

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:21 PM

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i think I've gotten plenty of runs with zero magma damage

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Okay, I'm about to start the final extreme measures boss

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:21 PM

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well compared to what you'd usually get during a hydra fight

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Wish me luck

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:21 PM

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two dashes seems easy enough to avoid magma

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:21 PM

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good luck!

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may the gods grant you a swift satyr sack and easy run!

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:22 PM

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@sullen lava remember this is new players ... this whole convo is sus

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:22 PM

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leaden whale two dashes seems easy enough to avoid magma

not if the ||plattform you're on is tinier than two dashes so if you dash twice you are in magma again||

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:22 PM

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git gud?

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I'm keeping that in mind. That's why I didn't mention boss by name

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:23 PM

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yeah, but extreme measures is a spoiler lololol

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:23 PM

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everything about this game is git gud shadeeyeroll

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unspoilered thing is a spoiler now? interesting

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:25 PM

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yeah everything is git gud because its so well made the weapons are balanced

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and the way you upgrade them is still about getting better

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 5:26 PM

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AHHHHHH

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:26 PM

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gotta love that the most about hades, everybody has their own favorite weapon without being anyhow punishing themselves

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 5:26 PM

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||HIS RANGE IS TOO GOOD||

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:26 PM

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oh goddess, you good?

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||lernie's?||

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 5:26 PM

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||His first form took all three DDs||

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:27 PM

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my favorite thing about it is how i can have fun with every weapon lol ofc i have weapons i prefer

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:27 PM

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||dad?||

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 5:27 PM

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||Yes. Dad||

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:27 PM

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;w;

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:27 PM

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same yato

sullen lava Dec 10, 2020, 5:27 PM

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||That sweep feels like double in size.||

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:28 PM

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the only real downgrade on weapons if chiron on first level

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chiron is great but as lvl 1 aspect it's bad

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:28 PM

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lv 1 chiron sucks hard

floral nacelle Dec 10, 2020, 5:28 PM

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level 5 chiron is so good

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:28 PM

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yes

stray fiber Dec 10, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Relatively, it's good enough for casual players.

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:29 PM

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you really want to push your blood onto it

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:29 PM

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heat hades spoiler: ||bro first time i fought second hades I smelled the 3rd phase but I didnt expect it to get hard and i was at the point without perimision to use the thing meg gave me i dont remember how's called I still won though but i was so nervous||

stray fiber Dec 10, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Also spoilers.

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:29 PM

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I tried lv 1 chiron when I was a baby player and it sucked

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:29 PM

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same

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it sounds so good but with the little amount of special arrows it does so little damage

stray fiber Dec 10, 2020, 5:30 PM

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||I was able to clear very comfortably the first time I ever tried Chiron, I think it's an easy weapon and fun for casuals villagershrugs ||

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:30 PM

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chiron isnt really a spoiler

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:30 PM

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me too first time i tried chiron i was like... what is that

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:30 PM

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since it's the second bow aspect

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:30 PM

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but now its my fave ❤️

stray fiber Dec 10, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Wait sorry, I am talking about Hera shadeembarassed

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:30 PM

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hera is good too

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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chaos shield is just a meme man

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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only the hidden names are spoilers i'd say

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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so fun

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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hera is flipping GREAT

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I just realized that the first time I ever used shield was with chaos aspect

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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first time i enjoyed phanlax

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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so I hadn't used zag aspect until like, yesterday

stray fiber Dec 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I have invested heavily in gloves, I don't play bows that much. I have only played gloves the last 20-30 times. Alternate between Talos and Demeter.

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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demeter is my fav fists aspect ez

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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for chaos to be fun you need to max upgrade it

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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talos and demeter are equally great

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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it just needs the upgrades

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:32 PM

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talos special feels so nice to me

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:32 PM

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talos is a close second

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:32 PM

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just zoop the enemies in and hit em

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:32 PM

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I havent unlock 2 last secret aspects yet so idk but the rest got me confused with the heavy atk

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:33 PM

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is chiron best bow aspect? I only invested in it so far

stray fiber Dec 10, 2020, 5:33 PM

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I think I asked about how Demeter works but don't remember the answer. How does it prioritize special, is there a minimum distance for it to hit a bunch of enemies vs all shots landing on one target. It's great vs bosses compared to Talos I felt but wasnt sure how it worked in standard encounters really.

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:34 PM

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all bow aspects are great

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:34 PM

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the multihit from gloves is flat to all enemies in the range

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:34 PM

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it really depends on your personal playstyle with it

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:34 PM

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leaden whale is chiron best bow aspect? I only invested in it so far

idk bow's aspects are all so cool but i think ||rama|| is considered the best out of all the weapons by some

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:34 PM

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ancient junco idk bow's aspects are all so cool but i think ||rama|| is considered the best ou...

only for speedrunning i'd say

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else people are swearing by chiron

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:35 PM

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||rama seems horrid||

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:35 PM

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chiron seems better for sp to me but i dont know

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:35 PM

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chiron kinda sucks at ||higher heat||

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:35 PM

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chiron used to be used alot for speedrunning when v1.0 hit

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:35 PM

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||rama|| is amazing

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:35 PM

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now it's ||rama|| since it really workswell with high heat too

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:35 PM

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cause it excels at single target

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:35 PM

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leaden whale chiron kinda sucks at ||higher heat||

exactly

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:36 PM

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hidden on the other hand can clear rooms quik

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because of its mechanic

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:36 PM

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high heat like what numbers?

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:36 PM

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hidden is pretty much inverse chiron

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 5:36 PM

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ahh i'm always so happy to see thighs in the chat

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:36 PM

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yeah like 40+

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:36 PM

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ohhh

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yeah the furtherst ive reached is 16 today i got the game less than a week ago so i cant relate

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:38 PM

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heat 16 in one week, dang, can't do that anymore being a dad

floral nacelle Dec 10, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Afraid your kid is going to be better than you?

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:38 PM

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hm?

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oh wait

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:38 PM

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no, I don't play because I have a job and then I do parenting and don't play till after the kids go to bed and I catch up with my wife, only like 2 hours a day max can I play

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:39 PM

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i just realised two weeks i got it 2 weeks before

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well around 70 hours

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i got 16

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:39 PM

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parenting is tough huh

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:39 PM

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I think its ok not bad not good

stray fiber Dec 10, 2020, 5:39 PM

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leaden whale no, I don't play because I have a job and then I do parenting and don't play til...

||Same and I think 16 is great, I think I am at 14 and been trying really hard to unlock the second statue||

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:40 PM

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damn you did a lot, i've got a hundred hrs and almost a month since getting it

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you can do it I believe in u

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:40 PM

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it was easy with chiron

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:40 PM

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but i also got uni i guess

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need restraint

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i mean i've had the game for a month and have only a hundred hours so far

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not that i got 16 at a hundred

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:41 PM

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but now that i maxed chaos shield ill reach it too with the shield this aspect is rly fun

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bro wait im not ok 80 hours 2 weeks i actually thought of it quarantine is destroying me bro

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I've only ever gotten that high with terraria LOL

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my longest session of terraria was 13 hours straight

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Hades 8

floral nacelle Dec 10, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Yeah, roguelites have lots of replay value

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 5:46 PM

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floral nacelle Yeah, roguelites have lots of replay value

thats why i love them is have 248 on tboi but i didnt got em so fast i think ill reach more with hades

daring delta Dec 10, 2020, 5:51 PM

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leaden whale no, I don't play because I have a job and then I do parenting and don't play til...

Big relate

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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i had 60 in boi 3ds

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 6:36 PM

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idk about gettin gut thing btw.

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at first i didnt fetl like it worth to invest time and get good.

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but then my friend played hades a lot so i played it too.

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jealousy kind of thing.

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discovered some tech with weapons.

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and now im playing it stylishly like a DMC.

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game on its own has nothing but fun but some weapon mechanics.

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difficulty curve is realy broken and isnt that fun to play.

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its really hard until you get your 3 death defiance.

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then its so easy that you can roll your face until HL15.

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i mean id rather have a beatemup game with similar weapon mechanics than hades is right now.

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you have a weapon you know whats you comfortable with build and you can easily get it by equipping certain pedant.

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you dont need to adapt like in other isaac games.

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you can only pray for rarirty.

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and even then you can reroll it.

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its only input buffer that keeps me playing.

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its really fun to buffer dash attacks and specials and dash-attacks.

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 6:50 PM

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||Approval Process 2|| will fix the build part

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 6:51 PM

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i dont feel it can fix it.

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its either too easy or just frustrating.

jaunty maple Dec 10, 2020, 6:53 PM

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for ||Hera||does anyone have any suggested builds? I just unlocked it to level 5 cuz why not haha

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 6:54 PM

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yea i kind curious about hera too.

jaunty maple Dec 10, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Zabota - change your expectations a little, but yeah all your complaints are valid. I didn't use the build defining keepsakes for most of the game and it was a TON of fun to get used to new stuff, now I'm having fun setting up builds more carefully too

iron citrus Dec 10, 2020, 6:54 PM

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any tips for playing with the gun? i feel like i'm so bad with it I must be doing something wrong

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 6:54 PM

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play more with the weapons you find hard

jaunty maple Dec 10, 2020, 6:54 PM

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tim - honestly just dash around spamming buttons

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 6:55 PM

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can you powershot your cast?

jaunty maple Dec 10, 2020, 6:55 PM

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which one is infernal soul? only 1, but recharges fast?

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your cast does the same damage regardless

vernal talon Dec 10, 2020, 6:55 PM

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oh wait sorry we should not talk about aspects here

iron citrus Dec 10, 2020, 6:55 PM

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I play with whatever weapon they offer the bonus on so I'm pretty much switching it up every time

vernal talon Dec 10, 2020, 6:55 PM

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cause it's spoilers

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so im gonna delete my messages

jaunty maple Dec 10, 2020, 6:55 PM

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wait I'm in the wrong chat!! I'm so sorry

vernal talon Dec 10, 2020, 6:55 PM

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should move to #h1-builds-and-combat

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ya just edit/delete spoiler messages

jaunty maple Dec 10, 2020, 6:56 PM

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already done 😛

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 6:56 PM

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can you powershot your cast with hera? and does your cast scale with attack?

vernal talon Dec 10, 2020, 6:57 PM

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yoo chill with name dropping the hidden aspects in here @jovial pelican

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 6:58 PM

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oh sry.

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 6:58 PM

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#h1-builds-and-combat

vernal talon Dec 10, 2020, 6:58 PM

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^^

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 6:58 PM

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but its not a hidden aspect.

vernal talon Dec 10, 2020, 6:58 PM

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sorry not hidden aspect, just aspects in general?

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it's still a spoiler

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 6:59 PM

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still sry.

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 6:59 PM

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still, it's kind of a #h1-builds-and-combat question and doesn't need to be here... this is mostly for before first clear questions

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 7:00 PM

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i just feel myself like a low heat noob so im kinda shy to ask in other channels %).

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 7:00 PM

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once you know what the word heat even means, you're no longer new

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 7:01 PM

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ok ty.

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cant you pls tell me where we share the combo tech?

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its really execution that keeps me playing. i want to see other people tech inventions.

knotty grail Dec 10, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Hi everyone, when do you get to unlock the ||Locked Heart||? I have couple of characters already at max, and I'm around successful 9th run, but nothing yet?

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Also, I never had the Extra Gems/Darkness buff for the Shield (I'm around 35ish runs). Is it just me being super unlucky?

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 7:09 PM

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If i get it right its just your regular darkness gain buff.

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Some locks are behind relationship with other NPCs, and some just takes rng to trigger a new conversation. @knotty grail

jovial pelican Dec 10, 2020, 7:09 PM

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it will change every run.

leaden whale Dec 10, 2020, 7:10 PM

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what are you talking about?

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 7:10 PM

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knotty grail Also, I never had the Extra Gems/Darkness buff for the Shield (I'm around 35ish ...

youre unlucky

knotty grail Dec 10, 2020, 7:27 PM

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I see. Thanks guys!

iron citrus Dec 10, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Jeez boss of Elysium seems to be the first major road block for me. I think I've died there 5 times now

ancient junco Dec 10, 2020, 7:44 PM

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yes its all pain

iron citrus Dec 10, 2020, 7:49 PM

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For me the Fists are the one that I never seem to get the bonus on. I think I've played 1 run with it

wide gulch Dec 10, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Elysium wouldn't be as bad if the boss didn't consume all my respawns

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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elysium boss is the hardest one imo

iron citrus Dec 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Well that's good to know

wide gulch Dec 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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elysium bosses ;)

iron citrus Dec 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Hydra seems like 🍰 at least when you have a weapon with any amount of range

wide gulch Dec 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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you dont even need range for hydra just dash when it does literally anything

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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furies are cake except for alecto

harsh leaf Dec 10, 2020, 7:57 PM

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All of that is a spoiler in this channel, bud

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 7:58 PM

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@wide gulch delete it or spoiler

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 7:58 PM

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do people who find hydra hard tend to think that elysium bosses are easy? 🤔

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spoiler police is here

wide gulch Dec 10, 2020, 7:59 PM

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sorry didnt know

reef raptor Dec 10, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Dunno about you guys, but elysium boss got way easier for me once i learned how to dodge or block the spear throw

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Granted it took a lot of trial and error but once i got the rhythm down thats it

proven acorn Dec 10, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Elysium boss was actually easiest for me to beat in one go when Tartarus boss and Asphodel boss got me a few times 😛

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They have such a consistent rhythm in comparison to the others. Even though the others also have a rhythm.

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It's really a matter of being generous with your dashes.

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And I have a style of fighting characters head on and charging at them, which is bad when you have to save up on life and death defies, but when it comes to the first half of the Elysium battle, charging ||Asterius|| head on works best since the forward momentum gets me behind them when they do their dive thing

nova pebble Dec 10, 2020, 8:48 PM

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I started yesterday, I've made it to them twice so far but have yet to beat them

subtle steeple Dec 10, 2020, 9:03 PM

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How to get gemstones used for renovation?

harsh leaf Dec 10, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Choose gem rewards during a run

subtle steeple Dec 10, 2020, 9:07 PM

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ah thanks, so its a room reward only?

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also, is there crit chance by default? or only after accepting things?

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 9:07 PM

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you can also get a renovation that gives you it on boss defeats

harsh leaf Dec 10, 2020, 9:08 PM

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All currency items can be obtained in runs, or as Prophecy rewards. There is no base crit chance

subtle steeple Dec 10, 2020, 9:09 PM

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alrighty thanks guys 🙂

proven acorn Dec 10, 2020, 9:19 PM

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subtle steeple also, is there crit chance by default? or only after accepting things?

no crit chance by default except in weapon aspects that have crit chance listed in their description and through crit chance ||Artemis|| boons!

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 9:21 PM

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yea art boons and weapon aspects give crit chance

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one of arts boons is a global crit chance

subtle steeple Dec 10, 2020, 9:21 PM

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alright thanks 🙂

buoyant thunder Dec 10, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I could use some advice on chaos shield. I'm at a loss on how to do well with it tbh

harsh leaf Dec 10, 2020, 9:47 PM

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That is one of the aspects that REALLY benefits from being max level

nova pebble Dec 10, 2020, 9:47 PM

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What does the little skull? symbol that sometimes appears beside a door with a boon mean?

buoyant thunder Dec 10, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I'm at lvl 4 right now, which isn't bad

harsh leaf Dec 10, 2020, 9:48 PM

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nova pebble What does the little skull? symbol that sometimes appears beside a door with a b...

Small skull: elite room. Small skull with one red chevron: miniboss. Gold skull with two red chevrons: boss.

nova pebble Dec 10, 2020, 9:48 PM

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harsh leaf Small skull: elite room. Small skull with one red chevron: miniboss. Gold skull ...

ah thank you!

harsh leaf Dec 10, 2020, 9:48 PM

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buoyant thunder I'm at lvl 4 right now, which isn't bad

Well, it works just like Zag shield but you have the option to shotgun specials. What's giving you trouble?

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I dont really know what advice to give if I dont know what you're struggling with

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Or, perhaps, just doing wrong. Like not using the special or something

buoyant thunder Dec 10, 2020, 9:49 PM

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It just isn't really doing much damage plus it scatters all over the place

harsh leaf Dec 10, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Well, it's more of a room-clearer than anything. If you want to do damage against bosses, you really need to use it at melee range

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And, as always, remember that Zeus has a cooldown on lightning, so it wont deal crazy damage on single targets

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But putting Dem, Dio or Art on special is a pretty good idea in general.

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With the understanding that you wont be leaning 100% on special to do damage

low kestrel Dec 10, 2020, 10:08 PM

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At which point should I just give up on doing it legit and activate god mode, 15 tries, 30, 60 ?

harsh leaf Dec 10, 2020, 10:09 PM

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At whichever point you think you stop having fun otherwise

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You can also turn it off whenever with no penalty, so just try it!

low kestrel Dec 10, 2020, 10:11 PM

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yeah ok, I think I'll do that, I just mad rn, I bought the game 2 days ago full of hype and I just can't do anything good

harsh leaf Dec 10, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Two days seems like way too soon to be frustrated, maybe you just need to walk it off. Nothing wrong with that

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Many people take several dozen runs to get that W, some cant even get there WITH God Mode. There's all kinds. But given that this is a roguelite by design, you gotta be comfortable with the idea of doing the same thing over and over again regardless of success or "failure"

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Losing can be fun!

proven acorn Dec 10, 2020, 10:13 PM

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low kestrel At which point should I just give up on doing it legit and activate god mode, 15...

piercing shot with shield transforms the whole experience ❤️ so get hammers where you can. Also unlocking aspects for the shield can be huge, my favourite is aspect of Zeus

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The thing you learn about the shield is that while it doesn't do as much damage, when you face off against bosses it's the friendliest weapon for newbies because it blocks.... everything, basically, as long as you're facing the right way

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everything except damage from above and below, but there are way fewer attacks that do that

low kestrel Dec 10, 2020, 10:14 PM

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yeah I'm way too nervous

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that's the problem

proven acorn Dec 10, 2020, 10:14 PM

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also losing in this game is a huge win anyway because you get good story 😄

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 10:14 PM

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endboss anxiety?

low kestrel Dec 10, 2020, 10:14 PM

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uuuh

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midboss anxiety

fallen canyon Dec 10, 2020, 10:15 PM

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which boss?

subtle granite Dec 10, 2020, 10:15 PM

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stageboss anxiety?

low kestrel Dec 10, 2020, 10:15 PM

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shadeeyeroll Hydra