Just keeps playing the game
#h1-for-new-players
hot yoke
random gazelle
what happens if I give Dusa ||amborsia||
hot yoke
Also still your profile status is technically a spoiler
terse tree
uh
wooden dagger
How foes achilles have a synergy with blade storm?
terse tree
i have to change it i guess?
leaden whale
Okay, real question here, can I get some switch controller layout recommendations?
leaden whale
I prefer not to be heavy on triggers.
hot yoke
Everything else is fine
leaden whale
What is r3?
leaden whale
Is rail good?
hot yoke
Every weapon is
leaden whale
Is the bomb lob good?
hot yoke
Generally yes
leaden whale
It seemed slow
leaden whale
I really like doom is it as good as it feels?
hot yoke
If you build around it on certain weapons yes
gusty atlas
the things that are bound to the triggercs are, in general, buttons that you hit more rarely. Interact is on trigger, but that's because you hit it in moments of calm. The only button that is in a really annoying place is reload. Unfortunately, the only place to put it that doesn't clobber anything better is a trigger, but you can replace codex as was suggested, which you open even less frequently.
normal arrow
so if you have it on a weapon that deals a small amount of damage very frequently then it's great
gusty atlas
the four main buttons are your 4 main combat abilities, and what's left on the triggers are for things you only do occasionally in combat, or out of combat.
at leasnt, tdhat's how I feel. Keep in mind I'm probably the worst player in here.
wooden dagger
The issue with having doom on a rapid fire attack is that it doesnt stack
unless you get a specific boon that makes it so it does more damage if you hit more before it goes off, but that one isnt actually that good
Hangover is better for rapid fire weapons because it stacks
Doom is kinda just good tho, you can have it on either attack or special on pretty much any weapon and it'll still do work
Only issue is that the boon that gives you the doom effect doesn't have a damage increase for that move
hot yoke
unless you get a specific boon that makes it so it does more damage if you hit m...
It's decent in chiron
uncut parrot
ares + athena duo boon is great for doom builds
fluid stirrup
this game is harder than i thought it would be lol, it is engaging for sure
leaden whale
I like doom for hit and run
wooden dagger
this game is harder than i thought it would be lol, it is engaging for sure
It gets easier pretty quick, at least it did for me
leaden whale
God mode I heard makes it easier
gusty atlas
I'm over 60%
leaden whale
60% of what?
gusty atlas
god mode
fluid stirrup
yea, i can make to elysium pretty consistently now and just got past it this last run
leaden whale
I don't know what that means.
fluid stirrup
17 runs in
gusty atlas
oh, god mode gives you damage reduction. starts at 20%, increases by 2% every time you die
fluid stirrup
experimenting has been fun
leaden whale
Oh cool it increases?
gusty atlas
max 80%
leaden whale
I have yet to use it
gusty atlas
it's ability to make things easier depends on your ability to leverage the DR meaningfully
leaden whale
Seems like if 80% DR isn't enough then you just need to get better
gusty atlas
I've made the claim before, god mode doesn't solve all problems
I've also made the claim just 10 mins ago, that I'm probably the worst player in here
I've yet to see anything to contradict that, anyway
there are def. newer players, but I'm not convinced there are worse ones
leaden whale
No discouragement from me. I'd like to help but I'm only 7 runs in
which boons should i be going after for big dps on regular spear w flurry jab?
gusty atlas
I just did demeter to some effect
but see above re: worst player
and it wasn't regular spear, but I mostly used it that way because I suck at using the non-regular aspects ofd it
leaden whale
i didn't beat the game until 21 runs in with full DDs, later half of those i'd get to the final boss with barely any hp left every damn time
i got athena attack on spear atm since it gave me heroic
gusty atlas
hahahaha 21
leaden whale
dunno what else i should shoot for really
gusty atlas
I think I was.... 70
floral nacelle
I beat the game at 44 runs in
sly vigil
What's your play time when you beat it?
weary cedar
Beat the game 21 runs? Nice!! I'm 20 runs in and just decided to turn on God Mode. Although...I'm not a very strategic player. Any tips?
floral nacelle
The struggle is a part of the story
leaden whale
about 15 hours i beat it? don't think i'm qualified to give tips, oof
sly vigil
Amount of run can be inflated/deflated depending on playstyle
sly vigil
Took me 18 hours/40 runs
leaden whale
and i only beat the game when i finally got chiron on the bow
floral nacelle
I think I beat it 16, 17 hours in
leaden whale
now at a win streak at 40-ish runs
weary cedar
Ohh
floral nacelle
I noticed that doom stacking on the shield special was very good
weary cedar
I've been sticking with the Stygian Blade the whole time 
gusty atlas
I have not celared w/ Chiron.
leaden whale
blade's probably my worst
sly vigil
Chiron is quite powerful with upgrades
gusty atlas
bow was my last clear at 150 runs / 130+ hours
leaden whale
just clearing through the ||heat levels|| with each weapon atm
chiron is just sooo satisfying to me for some reason
sly vigil
It feels great
gusty atlas
still haven't done any ||heat||
leaden whale
oh shoot, i should be doing spoiler tags
hard lichen
and especially when you get that upgrade for one of the ||heat levels||
leaden whale
i'm only doing the easy ones atm haha
gusty atlas
At this point, I'm trying to get more than one clear on a couple weapons before i start cranking it.
hard lichen
i haven't done ||forced overtime|| yet, i've been avoiding doing that one 
even though i've cleared about 30-31 times
gusty atlas
not really?
hot yoke
No
sly vigil
Yes?
hot yoke
At least on switch
analog radish
is there a penelty for taking ambrosha back from dusa
weary cedar
Not that I've seen, and I'm on Switch
hot yoke
No
sly vigil
Oh on Switch you are sol
hard lichen
nope
analog radish
also i want to know bolth diolog
sly vigil
On pc you can
sly vigil
is there a penelty for taking ambrosha back from dusa
No
analog radish
im i dumbe
leaden whale
on pc? how?
gusty atlas
you can force an autosave by changing rooms, copy the file, and then do stuff, and then copy the file back
it's just hacky
analog radish
any way is there diferent diologe for taking back the ambrosha and not taking it
analog radish
it's just hacky
its not "hacky" its understanding machanics
gusty atlas
.... clearlry you've never spoken to a hacker
analog radish
messing with files isn't hacking
gusty atlas
You take that stand. Good luck.
I'll revise my statement then: there isn't an officially supported in-game way, there's a manual out-of-game way to do it.
hot yoke
It's low tier "hacking"
sly vigil
on pc? how?
copying the profileX_temp.sav and rename it to profileY.sav to manually load back on a specific point in a run.
analog radish
so basicaly downloading audio files from a cd would be hacking
sly vigil
this can be used for boss fight practices
analog radish
acording to u
gusty atlas
see above
hot yoke
That's not the same
analog radish
copying the profileX_temp.sav and rename it to profileY.sav to manually load bac...
thats smort
sly vigil
well make sure your X and Y are different and back up your main save
in case things go south
hot yoke
In one you extract file from a medium
In the other you manipulate the medium in a not intended way
analog radish
so basicaly im not gonna do that
sly vigil
don't @ me if your save is corrupted because you mess it up though
hot yoke
That's way different
gusty atlas
anyway, you do you. I maintain my stamtements.
analog radish
hot yoke
Very mature
weary cedar
Hey now, let's just move on and stay on topic, please.
gusty atlas
so RollingStone, still no clarity on where to spend my blood. your pieces of advice are def. in conflict. Chiron Bow is super scary for me, Eris Rail is 50/50 and Chaos shield.... I feel like it makes a lot of sense but I think I need more practice to get actual value out of it, so it's a bit tricky to figure out how ot act on that. On the flip side, taking the advice of what am I most comfortable with, I think I need to do more experiments because when I have good boons a run can go smoothly, but half the time I feel like I'm just terrible w/r all weapons with Chiron Bow being 100% the worst. I have multiple clears w/ 2 weapons, Rail and Spear. Spear has 3 (I think 2 of them were achilles, not sure about the third though), Rail has 2 (one was Eris, one was Zag). EVerything else is a one-hit wonder at the moment.
hot yoke
If you want power max eris
static anvil
I don't think you should worry too much on where you put your titan blood unless certain weapons are absolutely impossible for you
hot yoke
Or take what your like most
That's it
sly vigil
If you are looking for high value to blood cost weapons, I can recommend Nemesis, ||Arthur||, Hera, Zag Rail, Zag Bow, Zag Fists.
gusty atlas
@queen fiber Chiron is absolutely impossible for me right now. Also, when you are as bad as I am, it's hard to get more.
analog radish
peoples of plays game
sly vigil
Chiron, Chaos, and to a certain extent Eris, need a decent amount of leveling
analog radish
can u only comit to one resionship or several
sly vigil
Zag is a Greek god. They aren't known to be monoamorous.
analog radish
if u chose to be romance land can u still get the other plushy thingys
sly vigil
Plushy isn't affect by romance
gusty atlas
Eris only worked for me when I got rocket bomb, otherwise I had a harder time, but I may just need to pracitce. I can't lob the grenade and get hit by it and avoid everything I need to avoid in the room yet.
static anvil
<@!250339075322675210> Chiron is absolutely impossible for me right now. Also, w...
Well I'd suggest maybe just getting as much Titan Blood on your favourite (or best performing weapon) and then experimenting when you have a comfortable amount
sly vigil
So yes
gusty atlas
Egg: I've gotten as much blood as I can right now.
analog radish
Plushy isn't affect by romance
ahha
gusty atlas
I will be surprised if I got more in the next 20-30 runs
supple linden
I believe the switch version has a glitch where Than won't appear if you are at max hp when entering a room
analog radish
i think ima go with thanatos
because yes
isk
idk
maby dusa
but dusa is dumb
k bye now
static anvil
There aren't any penalties for any partner
supple linden
but dusa is dumb
hmmmm
hot yoke
but dusa is dumb
Those are fighting words
hot yoke
What's @supple linden's name again?
analog radish
dusa?
static anvil
Egg: I've gotten as much blood as I can right now.
In my opinion, the boons and hammers that you get in a game are more often run-makers or run-breakers, as opposed to the actual weapons, and dying almost always helps you progress as well
gray haven
Your current HP has nothing to do with Thanatos encounters.
static anvil
But it could be different for you
weary cedar
I believe the switch version has a glitch where Than won't appear if you are at max hp when entering a room
What
gusty atlas
Dying is just about capped out for me
sly vigil
but dusa is dumb
good, ||she doesn't want you either 😤 ||
supple linden
that's what i've heard
supple linden
you have to have taken damage for than to have a chance to appear if you play on switch. i think
static anvil
Please use the spoiler tags Erik 
hot yoke
Didn't have a problem with that personally
analog radish
ahha
gray haven
No, that was a myth that prevailed in Early Access already, and it was false then, too.
supple linden
ah
weary cedar
Ohh
supple linden
my bad
weary cedar
Interesting!
analog radish
||wabalabadubdub||
supple linden
my information was from a conversation i got the latter half of
supple linden
nah i didnt claim that before now
gray haven
There's a line in the code about HP that people misinterpreted in such a way, but it just checks if the kill counts for Thanatos or for Zagreus.
hot yoke
||wabalabadubdub||
I appreciate you not spoilering rick and morty for others
analog radish
yes
supple linden
rick and morty spoiler ||science of something i dunno get off my back||
analog radish
is the acorn keepsake thingy good
gusty atlas
I find it useful
sly vigil
is the acorn keepsake thingy good
very
analog radish
its 3-5 hits
sly vigil
it helps tremendously biome 3 and 4
gusty atlas
some pplr hit big
analog radish
imean it would be better if it like is a shild that absorbes x amount of damage
but that would just be colar but worse
sly vigil
but that would just be colar but worse
in what world do 5 hits of bosses amount to less than 50 damage?
leaden whale
i use it for the last boss always
sly vigil
I mean you don't need to equip it. But boss fights are consistently the run enders for me, and dare I say many others.
Acorn solves exactly that problem so yeah.
leaden whale
so sometimes i'm still confused on what boons to get/replace...
oh wait, i can't send pics here
on achilles spear, would you replace rare thunder flourish with heroic frost flourish and why/why not? i have 2 other zeus passives rn (higher aoe + added jolt) plus i only use the special to dodge around which idk if correct
sly vigil
do you have other zeus boons?
leaden whale
since i'm not really trying to hit anything with it, should i stick to the zeus?
sly vigil
like electric shot?
sly vigil
ok then don't
because if you exchange thunder flourish, you have nothing to enable the other 2 boons.
leaden whale
oh, that's true lol
sly vigil
and if you can find electric shot or some cast boon on achilles, try special and then cast.
achilles can be used as a casting aspect if you fancy that.
leaden whale
as a casting aspect?
gusty atlas
the special boosts attack and cast damage
so you can use the weapon to enable a cast build, instead of one that scales attack or special
sly vigil
as a casting aspect?
I meant you focus more on casting for damage than attacking.
Think of it like pseudo Poseidon Sword.
gusty atlas
so you can grab electric shot, and then look for other ways to scale up your cast damage, like grabbing duo boons w/ electric shot, grabbing demeter duo w/ jolted, grabbing chaos boons for extra stones or cast dmg
I forcget if there are any spefici electricg shot duos, but you can use it w/ other casts too
just examples. ask in #h1-builds-and-combat for more ideas I'm sure
and better ideas than mine
sly vigil
yeah try Achilles with Electric Shot out sometimes. it's quite satisfying in tartarus when you one shot everything. but later it can fall off a bit if you don't find upgrades.
gusty atlas
yeah, Ii tried it a bit earlier.... couldn't quite carry, won w/ achilles attack instead but the promise is there.
could also do hunting blades like I did w/ talos fist, same deal
and I hear crystal beam is good, just can't figure it out...
or maybe I just hear it's doable
lol
sly vigil
yeah, but since I don't like it, it's trash tier, obviously
gusty atlas
I think you need the artemis duo or aphro duo to aim it
and until you can aim, you have to either find other ways to do dmg, or you're struggling
or maybe that's jut me :/
does the rail have a cast aspect?
oh, I guess you can w/ eris
teal pivot
What do I do about those green things that show up during the ||Hades|| fight?
Do I just like hit them or walk around till they go away
sly vigil
the vases?
teal pivot
Ye I think
hardy sierra
Yau hey there folks quick question: Im at about 20 clears and about 60 attempts and I got multiple characters that I can't give more nectar to. I already spoilered myself with || the feature of getting "summons" from some characters|| but nothing happens since 10 clears. Am I missing something?
sly vigil
they are traps, if you step on them they do 30 damage and briefly stun you.
also the name of the final boss is considered spoiler here so can you tag that Lamb?
storm igloo
Yau hey there folks quick question: Im at about 20 clears and about 60 attempts ...
with certain characters, narrative events come up at random but it really depends on the character
and usually after their heart gauge unlocks you can give them ambrosia
hardy sierra
its only charon who gave me something bso far
hardy sierra
and usually after their heart gauge unlocks you can give them ambrosia
Yeah I saw that with charon but is long in the past, relatively, and the others just dont do anything anymore
storm igloo
with some characters it's random conversations that come up as far as i know so its like. finicky. i dont know for sure
check your fated list to see if you have any favor quests in there
and also make sure you have your affection with nyx up because you need it for certain characters' side quests
im pretty sure
gusty atlas
sorry
hardy sierra
Oh that Nyx thing is interesting, thank you. Also yea I remember Dusa giving me a "quest"
gusty atlas
that was phrased badly
||I think Nyx only blocks nyx and chaos, which is kintd of a mutual quest thing....||
||Nyx is involved in others, but you don't have to have her affliliation up for them?||
leaden whale
alright i just clicked on the ||"borrow option"|| for the first time... i was bamboozled
jaunty maple
does Chaos Dash-Strike bonus work on spear spin dashes?
hardy sierra
oh yeah that ||borrow|| thing is so great :D
storm igloo
||i think you need higher affection with nyx so she tells you where contracts are in the administrative room. she didnt help until i had her affection higher (i was able to do it before the chaos quest though)||
gusty atlas
||i think you need higher affection with nyx so she tells you where contracts ar...
|| I think that was just coincidence and conversation queue. Her affecthion was 1 when she told me sysaphus' location. ||
storm igloo
guess i just have bad luck then lmao
gusty atlas
convo queue's are mysterious that way
shy raptor
just like people in real life :)
gusty atlas
yeah, who knows when you'll trip my next convo queue
shy raptor
my convo queue is stocked with useless filler dialogue
gusty atlas
so far all anyone has managed to trigger is wining about chiron bow :p
gusty atlas
I think we have a different definition of busted
because I think I spelled a word wrong
shy raptor
whining?
gusty atlas
yeah, I hate chiron bow. I can't make it work.
gusty atlas
no worries
gusty atlas
No
shy raptor
trust me, it gets sooo much more effective
gusty atlas
I've been struggling on where to spend blood because everyone says it's a good bang for buck but I can't actuallym make it work
shy raptor
it turns on easy mode in a way that no other aspect does, at least for me
what flourishes have you tried with it
gusty atlas
so while. I have enough blood to max it out, I'm afraid that I'll just...regret the 10
and never be able to get them back
mostly dionysus
I've probably tried demeter as well
forest bolt
Some aspects require only an initial expenditure of Titan blood to be pretty decent, while others require further investment to properly work. Chiron bow is the latter
shy raptor
my go-to is artemis flourish
forest bolt
When you do spend enough blood on it to make enough special arrows home in, though, it becomes a beast
shy raptor
yeah especially once upgraded you get way more chances to proc a critical
with artemis, i mean
forest bolt
That's my point, 4 arrows isn't amazing, but 8 arrows is
shy raptor
doom can work really well too if you shoot for dire misfortune (stacking doom)
gusty atlas
my big huge problem with chiron is room clear
shy raptor
how so
gusty atlas
can't kite long enough to pick off things one by one
shy raptor
ahh
gusty atlas
and it takes too long to do an attack and a special or 2 to pick things off
shy raptor
doom is especially good for that then i think
if you don't proc the targeting and use the special from the start, you can get enough of them down that you can target and finish the rest off
forest bolt
The special can hit from pretty far away, so in-between your attack and your special, you can make some distance with your dash and still be able to hit when you special
shy raptor
and yeah you can squeeze in at least two specials before the effect ends
and it doesn't matter if the targeting ends while the special arrows are flying, so doing it from afar is helpful
gusty atlas
I rarely can get more than one if I'm also trying to dodge enemies or attacks
shy raptor
hmmmm then try for athena dash or something?
everyone plays different so chiron might not be right for you
gusty atlas
which is why it feels like a bad investement of 10 blood
because it's gonna take montsh for me to get 10 back at this rate
shy raptor
personally chiron was my grind weapon to level up my other aspects when they were underleveled
so see which other ones work for you
chaos aspect is a good one, the blocking helps a lot
just the shield in general
(although aspect of chaos is another one that only really gets good when it's maxed/close to maxed)
gusty atlas
I have 23 blood. I can max out any one aspect idf I'm mathing correctly, just need to have faith in it.
the problem right now is faith :/
possibly can max out more than one, depending on which one(s) I pick
but I can't get more w/o a serious change i my game
shy raptor
icic
it's up to you to choose one to upgrade but I can't stress enough that chiron, like most of the aspects become so much more effective maxed
one thing that helped me was watching other people's playthroughs just to get a sense of how i should be playing
gusty atlas
I've been watching haelian and jawless paul and stuff on youtube. I'm sure there are others but it's non-zero
forest bolt
Haelian is also how I learned a lot of the basics of how to play and build in Hades
shy raptor
take the chironpill
gusty atlas
10 is too much :/
static anvil
the problem right now is faith :/
Allow the Holy Bouldy to guide your decision 
gusty atlas
too much risk
forest bolt
Bouldy always believes in you
gusty atlas
if I were to rank my comfort with the aspects I've unlocked, chiron would be bottom. others would be a shuffling mass 10 steps above it.
shy raptor
just to make sure, since you're on gamepad, you do have aim assist on?
gusty atlas
yes
shy raptor
cause i was thinking the issue might be the initial shot takes too long to aim and land
gusty atlas
oh it does
sly vigil
Can confirm Haelian is good and knowledgeable.
shy raptor
are you using dash-strikes to speed up the attack charge-up time?
gusty atlas
auto-aim dosenr't help if you're facing the wrnong direction
you still have to swivel around
shy raptor
yeaaah thats the thing
i could never get the hang of using gamepad controls cuz of that
gusty atlas
I physically tcan't use kbm
because proton doesn't respect change in layout
so wasd is ,a;h
shy raptor
yea no need to change ur control scheme or anything
ive gtg but just do what feels right
just cuz other people like chiron doesn't mean it has to sit right with you
also spear hidden aspect is busted
static anvil
For the first time ever I chose a God boon over the hammer, and since then the hammer has only been available in the shop until I reached ||Styx||
gusty atlas
hidden spear is another that I haven't unlocked yet beacuse of fear 😛
shy raptor
trust me ||guan yu is a whole new kind of busted, the special damage radius is so large it might as well be an AOE attack, and pretty much any flourish works well with it cuz there's no damage falloff at all||
floral nacelle
Yeah, ||the max hp loss on hidden spear is a lot||
forest bolt
That aspect is... difficult to use right I think, especially without investing sufficient Titan blood to make its debuff not as awful as its initial value
shy raptor
that is also true xd
gusty atlas
It's not like any of them are easy to use
weary cedar
So I'm rly stubborn and started my runs using nothing but the Stygian Blade ||even after unlocking a few other weapons as I've continued|| , and am determined to get my first victory using the Stygian Blade no matter what, so I was wondering if anyone had any tips or opinions on what boons or keepsakes make runs easier with the blade? °0°
gusty atlas
Do you have all th eweapons?
I'm not asking to convince you away from the blade, but rather to ask a follow up
weary cedar
Definitely don't have them all, yet
gusty atlas
okay
floral nacelle
Blade has big hits so I favor Aphrodite on attack
gusty atlas
So, I haven't won with the basic blade yet, so take my advice w/ a giant heap of salt. And see above re: worst player in the chat. But where I'd start is that the blade in general likes scaling attack. Aphrodite, Artemis, Ares, ||Demeter ifd you've seen her||.
You have a couple options where to go from there. Athena dash is going to be really helpdful over all, because you're going to be jumping in and out. The attack pattern I've seen people talk about is dash in, special, dash attack around to kite, or dash attack through to get away from armored enemies/bosses/etc. If you did Ares on the attack, Athena on the Special and Dash enables the Merciful End duo that people were talking about a bit ago. If you go Aphrodite on the attack, Artemis on the special and going for their duo is also something to look for.
Keepsake wise, the advice I was given at least, and it's worked on the clears I do have, is to go for your first god in the first place, then switch over to who you need to round out your build until you get to the last biome. For that one, I usualrly switch to something that's going to keep me alive. Iif I find what I need in the 2nd biome, I'll switch to a keepalive keepsake for the 3rd biome as well.
At least, that's how I've been working on, but I have a single sword win so as I said, giant heap of salt
weary cedar
Oooh, this seems pretty sound advice, though! And all gods I'm already pretty fond of getting boons from, so maybe I'm on the right track! 
Thank you!
gusty atlas
(for me, keepalive keepsakes are acorn and tooth mostly)
(though if you struggle w/ poison, spearpoint can help with that I hear)
weary cedar
I haven't rly gotten into swapping keepsakes much, I haven't received many yet and that's smth I think I've gotta work on...
gusty atlas
yeah, took a bit of getting used to handing out the necter to get them
floral nacelle
I like using keepsakes in the first two biomes to make a build
weary cedar
Which keepsakes do you favor, dysphere? °0°
gusty atlas
I've used the 3rd a lot. I don't know if that's because I am bad at builds, or bad at luck, or somewhere in between
floral nacelle
I like using chaos egg a lot, because chaos boons can do a lot, but it doesn’t make chaos gates spawn any more
gusty atlas
I have not leveled chaos egg....
floral nacelle
But for god keepsakes, I favor Aphrodite’s rose and athena’s owl, I think
weary cedar
Maybe it'll get better! I mean bad luck doesn't last forever! And making builds takes practice
gusty atlas
I can see the benefit, but if it makes them show up more it'd be more used
weary cedar
I like using chaos egg a lot, because chaos boons can do a lot, but it doesn’t make chaos gates spawn any more
I didn't know this! Good to keep in mind, thanks!
floral nacelle
It’s because I like seeing what gods the game gives me in the first biome and not trying to force that at first, at least
ivory ocean
every time i use chaos egg chaos doesn't show up..... im cursed
gusty atlas
that is unfortunate
gray haven
Optimal build for Zag sword is Curse of Agony, Divine Flourish, Divine Dash, Merciful End.
floral nacelle
In the second biome, I usually grab a god keepsake if I think I have a good thing going on with that god
weary cedar
every time i use chaos egg chaos doesn't show up..... im cursed
Well from what Dysphere said, using Chaos Egg means Chaos gates don't show up, so it's not a curse lol, they just ditch you once you use their keepsake 😩
gusty atlas
I also have yet to use feather or butterfly, tbh. I know I can't get that far w/o getting hit.
weary cedar
Optimal build for Zag sword is Curse of Agony, Divine Flourish, Divine Dash, Merciful End.
*taking notes *
gusty atlas
that was the ares/athena/athena thing I mentioned 🙂
in case you haven't memorized who's who
gusty atlas
good to see both names, because it's not always obvious how to translate one to the other
weary cedar
Yeah yeah! Thank U~
unkempt sigil
pulsar frigate
honestly they're all good
chaos vs zeus is a matter of playstyle preference, i can't really make zeus shield work but i know that on other people, it gets really good results
zag shield is also one of the better zag aspects out there
gusty atlas
I feel like I've heard zag __ is one of the better zag aspects about more than half of them 🤔
gusty atlas
haelian recc'd rail in his 0-32 heat guide
as a cheaper alternative to eris if you don't have the blood to get started climbing.
so that's 4/6 :p
so rip sword and spear
floral nacelle
Sword zag aspect useless for what you want to do with it
gusty atlas
I've actually heard it's not bad for some very specific thing...but i forget what that thing is
floral nacelle
But maxing that aspect isn’t totally useless because of ||Skelly||
gusty atlas
something about speed .... but not speedrunning
was it just one ofd haelian's meme builds? like one of his dhash-only runs? hm
gusty atlas
But maxing that aspect isn’t totally useless because of ||Skelly||
I mean... || it gets you 2 ambrosia for 5 blood? sus ||
|| maybe I haven't seen what else it gives you||
||There are def. days I think that trade could have waited, unless there's somethnig else I'm missing||
knotty grail
Hi everyone. I just unlocked Weapon upgrades. I'm not yet sure which weapon I would like to invest in (because, truth be told - I enjoy them all).
pulsar frigate
which ones are you the most interested in or confused about?
knotty grail
Should I hold this decision until later in the game where I'll have strong preference?
Or really - it doesn't matter because later on I'm going to get enough Titan Blood to upgrade whatever I want to upgrade?
heady comet
just try all weapons out, you can give up a run to get ur investment back
pulsar frigate
the idea i believe is to invest now so you can earn more later
ripe olive
Yes, Titan Blood becomes much more accessible after you have beaten the game once.
Before that its supply is kind of limited
Only advice I can give is
Take a look at the weapon's perks
lone crater
What can I do with the items that the first boss drops?
ripe olive
Certain aspects are kind of "meh" or even bad until you can max them out.
gusty atlas
Yes, Titan Blood becomes much more accessible after you have beaten the game onc...
lies
gusty atlas
lol
heady comet
it becomes much easier
knotty grail
Is Titan Blood limited?
gusty atlas
It is not limitedc
heady comet
no u get more per run of higher difficulty
gusty atlas
It only becomes easier if you're getting better at the game
so you're making a strong assumption there
I am 90% certain I won't get any more within the next month or 2
lone crater
Where do i go to upgrade aspect
ripe olive
Low heat barely has an effect on the gameplay
gusty atlas
It's had enough to shut down my progress-
ripe olive
You can grab heat perks which basically do nothing, it's not until you start stacking multiple of them when it gets harder.
harsh leaf
I am 90% certain I won't get any more within the next month or 2
Have you stopped trying to use the bow?
pulsar frigate
hey, remember to keep spoilers in mind
harsh leaf
You can grab heat perks which basically do nothing, it's not until you start sta...
Liminial is..... very special.
gusty atlas
Have you stopped trying to use the bow?
I rotate
pulsar frigate
and keep in mind that certain things are not available to people who've just unlocked aspects
ripe olive
Will do
knotty grail
OK. So the plan is to pick a weapons I enjoy right now (I guess it will be the sword), and invest the Titan blood in it. And later on when I'm stronger I can farm more blood more easily as much as I want?
ripe olive
Pretty much yeah
slender sundial
Yes, please be mindful of spoilers! Thanks! 
pulsar frigate
it'll be because you're stronger now (after investing some blood) that you'll be able to gain more blood later
heady comet
yah u should max out a weapon i think
ripe olive
My personal recommendation is level 1|| Hera Bow||, if you enjoy bow.
pulsar frigate
have you cleared the final boss once yet?
ripe olive
It works just fine at level 1 with certain casts.
knotty grail
Nope. Had my first failure just now. At least I hope it's the "Final boss" 🙂
pulsar frigate
if it's at the end of styx, then you're there
knotty grail
So yep.
pulsar frigate
after doing that first clear, the realm of possibilities really cracks wide open
so the question right now is, what aspect will get you past the final boss
a handy trick is to invest blood in an aspect, go into a run, test it out. and if you don't like it, select Give Up from the menu and it'll send you back to when you walked into the courtyard, before you invested your blood
gusty atlas
have to catch it before yfou die, otherwise you're locked
knotty grail
Well, this specific run was with a ||Sword||.
ripe olive
I'm fairly certain you can still give up at death screen
heady comet
which sword?
knotty grail
But, I had around 13-14 runs up until, and I find ||ranged weapons|| to be slightly easier. So if I want to invest specifically on what will being me further. ||bow|| Sonuds like a decent path to take.
knotty grail
which sword?
The weapon you start the game with.
pulsar frigate
oh i can go all day about bow aspects
ripe olive
Bow is definitely a good option
It's both strong and arguably easier to play than melee weapons, not implying melee is bad.
heady comet
i feel like maxing a weapon comes after a first clear except default aspects
gusty atlas
there
knotty grail
If you ask me what will bring me further, I think Bow will. If you ask me what I enjoy playing more, I would say Stygian blade. Bow is a bit slow, and I prefer to faster play-style.
pulsar frigate
- zag bow is the cheapest and gives you a lot of bang for your buck (much more so than other zag aspects).
- bow2 is amazing but requires practically full investment to get to that power (aspects have a max of 5 levels), so it might not be as great a choice right now, when blood is limited
- bow3 is the opposite of above, getting most of its power at unlock
heady comet
stygian blade can go pretty far early
pulsar frigate
honestly, if you're used to base bow, going down zag bow's route would be the easiest change of playstyle (being no change at all lol)
heady comet
with cursed slash hammer
pulsar frigate
bow3 is dependent on how well you can build casts, but is very rewarding once you can get it going
knotty grail
Ermm, i think I already spend one Titan in Stygian. The ||+3% attack speed/move speed|| I think?
I'm suprised you can't re-spec really.
heady comet
stygian blade is good too u can outheal anything
knotty grail
Sounds like if Weapons are Classes. Aspects are meta classes.
pulsar frigate
that one's eh, but it's fine at where you're at imo
knotty grail
Would be cool if we allowed me easily to experiance instead of "Give up" and reset.
pulsar frigate
sgg devs have actually likened weapons to "classes" in other games, so you're right on the money
knotty grail
that one's eh, but it's fine at where you're at imo
Yea, I only picked it up because it seems like you have to, if you want to try the following upgrade.
gusty atlas
yeah, the idea is you're supposed to grind out mistakes
instead of respeccing them
made me too afraid
pulsar frigate
do you want my opinions on sword too?
harsh leaf
You can spend Blood, take the weapon for a run, then Give Up and you'll be put in the weapon room with all your blood refunded
Just make sure not to die, or leave the weapon room
Or finish the run
harsh leaf
There were zero ifs there
knotty grail
It feels a bit hacky. I guess SGG wanted you to play grind your mistakes as mentioned.
pulsar frigate
i think if you finish the run, you don't really need to respec 😛
knotty grail
And Onyx, sure. I have an eye on that Crit chacne aspect.
gusty atlas
if you die you're hosed. If you check your mirror, you're hosed.
very easy to mess it up.
pulsar frigate
i mean sure, but there's a reason why sgg made Give Up reset your save instead of other options imo
gusty atlas
you have to beat the death. And I don't think I would by the time I'm in the run. So I won't use that strat.
teal pivot
How do I give someone ambrosia? The option doesn’t show up
knotty grail
I wonder, are you suppose to end up with all Weapon aspect fully un-locked?
gusty atlas
yes
knotty grail
Or that's only if you plan to play this game for 1000 hours? 🙂
knotty grail
I see.
gusty atlas
but they want you to plan to play the game forc 1000 hours too :p
floral nacelle
Have you completed their favor?
You can only give them ambrosia after unlocking their heart
gusty atlas
It's unlikely to take you that long
harsh leaf
How do I give someone ambrosia? The option doesn’t show up
You can't choose to give someone ambrosia, first you must get to the locked heart, then unlock it
harsh leaf
Depends on the character
knotty grail
Well, getting late. Thanks for the help everyone! Good night 🙂
floral nacelle
They have various favors they want you to do for them
harsh leaf
Most of the time it's just keep talking to people
gusty atlas
are you asking how to lock or unlock the heart?
pulsar frigate
And Onyx, sure. I have an eye on that Crit chacne aspect.
for sword:
- zag sword is not amazing imo, but early-game literally everything is viable. flurry slash is fun on it
- sword2 is straight up competition for one of the best aspects in the game, and competition for best sword aspect. very, very good if you learn how to interweave specials and attacks into your playstyle, and best at dash-strike spamming
- sword3 is, like bow3 above, a cast-centered weapon. it specializes in machine-gunning casts and quickly regaining your stones via its unique function
teal pivot
How to unlock the heart
knotty grail
I think I'll aim for Sword 2.
gusty atlas
yeah, || for the most part, talk to ppl and chase down leads for a personal quest||
pulsar frigate
sword2 is a great choice!
it can be great with any attack hammer, but you want the double edge hammer, trust me
floral nacelle
I still haven’t mastered how to use casts yet
pulsar frigate
dependent on knowing how to build in general
most casts have at least one morph via duo boons, and there are many boons that buff casts that you need to know how to get
spiral cairn
They should
spiral cairn
Hades is not really a demanding game
leaden whale
oh ok
pulsar frigate
try out the vulkun renderer if you need to
gusty atlas
Hades is not really a demanding game
I've gotten hades to nom 30gb of ram. Probably a bug 😛
leaden whale
kk
spiral cairn
Most likely lmao
gusty atlas
I filed it, seems to be something vulken related. They didn't reply so shrugs
spiral cairn
30gb of ram though, that's A LOT
gusty atlas
I haven't tried vulken since
celest surge
man i cant get past boss #3
its so brutal
started this game in hellmode and now i regret it xD
celest surge
what does god mode do?
red spindle
reduces received dmg
celest surge
oh so its like rreversed hell mode
red spindle
increase 2% every time you dies
idk how many is max cuz after my first succeed run, i barely dies again
celest surge
do you know how the pact of punishment work? i have like 5 points in them permanently
red spindle
you mean heat ?
celest surge
but the hell gauge tells me i shouldnt increase it
red spindle
the fire skull thing ?
celest surge
yeah
i wouldnt mind having timed mode for increased rewards but it doesnt seem to do anyhting
red spindle
when you done the first succeed run with every weapon you are rewared with total 2 titan bloods, 1 diamond and one big orange juice bottle right ?
pulsar frigate
you'll learn more about it after you beat the final boss
celest surge
ohhh
red spindle
so when you do it again with same hard
pulsar frigate
normal mode only gets the pact after beating the final boss once
pulsar frigate
but hell mode hooks into it from the beginning to simulate the higher difficulty
red spindle
you will reiceive tho reward again
red spindle
each level of heat will give you one set of reward
which mean
you should complete from 1 and 2 and 3 and so on
celest surge
like titan blood, diamond and so forth?
red spindle
I jumped to 10 heats at first time i knew it, but then i realize it was no use xd
red spindle
like titan blood, diamond and so forth?
ye, each new heat level will give you tho reward again
red spindle
||you fighting hades himself||
celest surge
red spindle
||with 2 bars||
heady comet
theres some jumps in rewarding tier
celest surge
do most people use tier lists for choosing boons?
i just use intuition for now but idk what is normal
loud canopy
there's not really tier lists, just general ideas of which boons work best for different weapons and what would work with your current build
like zeus isn't as good for the bow attack as artemis/athena, mostly because zeus likes fast attacks to fire off fixed-damage bolts
celest surge
ahh i see
i used to play in beta and there were zero guidelines or in the beginning so its interesting to see a meta develops
red spindle
there's no bad weapon, only bad player
loud canopy
and after that, going for a god you already have is usually better than getting one you dont have
because getting the same god again will likely give you boons that synergize with that gods effects
loud canopy
obv the biggest exception to that second one is going for specific ||duo|| boons
loud canopy
i wouldnt say its all dependent on rng
you just have to evaluate which choice is "better" instead of going for the "best" choice
red spindle
and i see it kind of reflexing real life social, the more you communicate, the more good for u 
celest surge
am i right in that the spear is the best weapon?
loud canopy
opinions on best weapon are very spread, and seems more like personal choice
I seem to have the best time with the ||ardent? rail||
celest surge
oh so they are balanced
loud canopy
I know speedrunners use ||the rail|| a fair amount
celest surge
thats suprising. i always thought rail was bad
i guess not
my favourite is still the spear since its so safe
celest surge
but the spear got extremely bad at boss #3
red spindle
depend on how your boon build also
you can try dyonisus or artemis
my favourit build on spear is dyonisus/artemis with rapid attack upgrade
loud canopy
the one thing i can give as a decent guideline is that
artemis/ares are better for slower, heavy attacks
dio/zeus are better for faster ones
artemis because the crits do insane damage
red spindle
my recently favourite build is ||Chiron bow|| with doom stacking xd
gusty atlas
good luckx
random gazelle
what happens when ||the love affinity for one character is maxed?|| will I still be able to fill up for more characters?
regal scaffold
||yeah||
gusty atlas
|| It may jsut be me, but I haven't seen any decisions that lock you out of other decisions. So far, the only opportunity cost is time & skill ||
regal scaffold
gods and dead people just love their capri suns
gusty atlas
||that's the time ||
random gazelle
how much is quickly
because right now Im viewing the ||Lambient plume (Hermes' keepsake)||and idk how little time it takes to count as quick
sly vigil
there is a clock on the keepsake itself
like a glowing orange thing
you can go in game and check for yourself
random gazelle
circling the keepsake itself on my left side of the screen u mean?
sly vigil
yeah
regal scaffold
question
unlocked the ability to upgrade my weapons with titan blood
any particular aspects i should prioritise/upgrade
leaden whale
whatever you enjoy the best
you can take a look at the wiki to see what upgrades are available for each weapon
but the game is balanced pretty well you can go for anything you really want to
lone crater
Lmao i got reflect dash and reflect attack on shield. I literally button mashed for my first clear
Must have dashed a million times
leaden whale
how do you fill the god gauge... i used it in the first room, and now I'm past tarturus and it's still at zero
gusty atlas
it resets after every combat
odd monolith
iirc it drains when u clear a floor
gusty atlas
room, not f loor
weary cedar
You have to hit enemies, and every room resets it.
gusty atlas
so you have to use it in the room you fill it
pulsar frigate
need to deal and take damage for it to fill up
you generally get more gauge by taking damage, but like, that's bad
heady comet
no
weary cedar
||ran into thanatos for the first time!! Although I'm having trouble understanding what exactly those counters are for....||
sly vigil
Kill more than him, get extra reward. That's it.
floral nacelle
Or tie, and you still get the reward
floral nacelle
Are you talking Daedalus hammers or titan blood?
teal pivot
Blood
sly vigil
Short answer, no. Long answer, depends.
You can hit give up and reload to the point before you spent the blood. But if you finish a run or walk back to the mirror, you are done.
leaden wave
Just got too the third boss for the first time rip my heart
sly vigil
That boss fight is intense 😄
leaden whale
first time I got there I got absolutely smacked lmao
leaden whale
I struggle when I don't have Armor breaking boons. And the infernal chests mostly suck I can't kill fast enough.
Got to the double boss and died. Oof
leaden whale
Which charm?
muted latch
apro's call
at max gauge it charms enemies and deals 2500 damage which is super strong
a very good call in general
empty geode
My brother finally gifted me this game. Excited to get started!
lapis belfry
Enjoy! You'll adore it
opal maple
Ooh have fun!!
random gazelle
can I ||forge multiple bonds?||
random gazelle
alright, thanks. I can rest easy now
gusty atlas
oh man, I've been mathing wrong. whoops.
formal rover
well, that’s illegal
gusty atlas
well, I almost made bad choices so
not that I have any idea what are better choices 😦
formal rover
same tbh
the better i get at this game, the more i make deliberately bad choices for the lolz
gusty atlas
some choices are not so temporary
leaden whale
so do you have less chances of getting boons if your slot's filled in for that type? (e.g. getting another god's attack boon when you already have one)
formal rover
yeah way less
the chance of getting offered a swap is really small
like 1% or something
leaden whale
ahhh damn
slim sonnet
How does one get the last heart for one of the Olympians(specifically Ares)
drowsy obsidian
Is it bad that i use god mode
gusty atlas
I'm so stuck :9
drowsy obsidian
On what
gusty atlas
can't decide where to spend blood. Only thing I know is not chiron bow.
drowsy obsidian
I say either gun or sheild
gusty atlas
I'm really not convinced
hot yoke
Spend on what you like
Idk what's so difficult about that
gusty atlas
then I should quit
hot yoke
Look you either gotta take suggestions or make your own decisions
Not neither
If you want a powerful aspect take eris
modern pike
Hello, I wonder about godmode, if one activates it, can it be deactivated too? Also, if I play on godmode, can I still unlock blood and play with ||heat||?
gusty atlas
Look you either gotta take suggestions or make your own decisions
the only suggestion I'm actively ignoring is chiron. I'm considering Eris, but my only successful run was w/ rocket bomb. THe normal lob has been really hard, and your other suggestion, of picking what I like, doesn't actually lead me down any usefdul direction since over 90% of my runs end in abject failure.
gusty atlas
Hello, I wonder about godmode, if one activates it, can it be deactivated too? A...
Yes to all.
hot yoke
Also "skill" doesn't mean being good just good enough
Even if you invest "wrong" all you need to do is play more
In the end I grew to like all aspects except most zag aspects
But I just dislike them cause I find them boring
In the end it's all only a matter of time and dedication
modern pike
Thank you, also, I've had same decision too, on what weapon to put blood into. Imo I play best with second aspect of the malphon gloves (the only weapon I've beaten the game with) but I find it boils down to play style and builds too.
hot yoke
200%
waxen pecan
Yeah just need to keep practicing, ||you keep getting slowly stronger with each run anyway with the Mirror upgrades||
gusty atlas
||my mirror is almost totally upgraded||
modern pike
You can see what different effects different aspects have. If you like focusing on cast then use hera bow or poseidon sword
hot yoke
As I said: only thing it takes is time
modern pike
If you like focusing on attack perhaps the gloves or the gun. And if you like focusing on special perhaps the shield or spear.
But it's all a matter of opinions and trial and error
hot yoke
Tbf liminal has prolly already heard most of the tips xD
upbeat mason
first few ||heats|| has minimal difference from ||zero heat||, you can fully upgrade two weapons before you hit a wall i think
modern pike
I sometimes get frustrated (like yesterday when everything felt difficult) but other times I find new things to think about and try out.
gusty atlas
oh I've hit a wall at ||0 heat||
modern pike
Ah, ye, sorry for overly explaining...
hot yoke
You just gotta be more stubborn than the game
modern pike
Where do you get stuck? My worst place (still) is the 3rd boss...
gusty atlas
everywhere
dfepends on the wepaon/build
but I've gotten ganked by all bosses in the last 10 runs
hot yoke
Everyone has their own set of skills
I'm decent at gaming but trash at rl
modern pike
Well 1st boss is mostly about evading and hitting after they dash and such. 2nd boss is about being systematic and taking one step at a time, keep to one side of screen and take one out at a time. 3rd boss is about yelling at the screen that you did dodge the attack but still got hit....
And final boss is about wishing you have duo boon with ||demeter and athena that grants you healing over time|| at least in my case cause I suck and need to git gud
hot yoke
That one is very good at the lowest and highest levels of the game
In the middle it's just useless
But when you're running 40+ ||heat|| with sd
modern pike
40+ ?!! Woah
celest surge
omfg got bull to 20%.............
this game is brutal
died to a random enviromental pillar falling on me
xD
hot yoke
What a way to go
celest surge
can i stack damage reduction like crazy?
hot yoke
Nope
It's reductive multiplicative nut additive
You can get high
But never up to 100
Secret sword aspect would prolly be your best option for that
leaden whale
lol, confused what is a spoiler or not in this channel
gray haven
considering this is a channel for newer players, anything that would be considered a spoiler in #h1-discussion
so most things past the first run clear including final boss
candid slate
guys, why i cant reroll a boon? I have 2 rolls, but i cant see the option (im not in the shop)
and another question, im using zeus keepsake, but when i start the run, i dont get the zeus boon
am i doing something wrong?
gray haven
Are you using Fated Authority or Fated Persuasion?
gray haven
That's Authority. Can't reroll boons with that.
gray haven
You can reroll rewards at the exit to a new chamber before you enter.
Yeah, the green one.
By the way, you don't happen to be iMystearica? Probably a different person.
gray haven
First chamber is always either a boon or a Daedalus hammer.
If it's a boon, it will be from Lord Zeus.
If it's from somebody else, it's a scripted event.
candid slate
but im using zeus boon and i got poseidon boon 😦
leaden whale
the god keepsakes that increase chance of boon being from them, does it work more than once a run
candid slate
i thought so, but never got the one i wanted
opal maple
I love how even if you don't get the boons you want during a run, you can still end up with something cool and unexpected in this game
celest surge
@gray haven can i talk about bull boss?
leaden whale
There are like these super keep sake slots at the bottom, six slots. Do only six exist and I need to be careful which one I choose in the future?
paper fern
those are ||cthonic companions|| and you aren't locked out of any of them by choosing another. but yeah there's only six
leaden whale
okay, so what's the benefit of maxing olympian god relationships?
floral nacelle
More story
thorny bobcat
I'd recommend improving your relationships with the people at the house first
supple linden
don't get hit
thorny bobcat
hit the bad guys until they are dead
odd monolith
|| Can someone tell me what are the pre-requisites on the feather keepsake (fogot the name) for me to get +1% dodge chance per encounter I clear fast? ||
thorny bobcat
|| Can someone tell me what are the pre-requisites on the feather keepsake (fogo...
I don't think there are any? can you elaborate a bit
odd monolith
Oh sry I mean || Lambent Plume gives off a percentage of move speed and dodge chance on every encounter we clear "quickly" but how the keepsake define quickly? Do we need to clear it like 45 secs per encounter so I'll get the buff? ||
floral nacelle
It changes based on type of encounter
odd monolith
Sry abt my sentences English is not my first language if I'm a bit vague
floral nacelle
There’s a little timer over the keepsake when you have it equipped
odd monolith
Oh
thorny bobcat
you're fine
||there will be an indicator right below the feather showing you if you're still going fast enough||
||if it empties out before you clear the chamber you don't get the bonus dodge||
odd monolith
Oh, thank you I haven't used the keepsake yet so I have no idea
thorny bobcat
as far as I know you'll always get it in 45 second chambers
weary cedar
Hey I'm new. Any tips?
@leaden whale Don't sweat dying, have fun, no shame in turning on God Mode, don't be afraid to ask questions as most people here will have answers or opinions on how to accomplish different things!
celest surge
who dat
leaden whale
Thanks @weary cedar 😉
floral nacelle
the one shade that has a banner of your face in front of them
somewhere on the left side
weary cedar
No problem! @leaden whale
thorny bobcat
hold on that's a thing?? 41 clears and I've never noticed it once
leaden whale
i salute my good shade every time because there's no in-game time penalty
I mean I'd do it anyways but still
stray fiber
You just need to walk near him for the dialog to pop up, he’s near top left.
thorny bobcat
I feel horrible that I've never noticed it before 😔
hot yoke
Best shade
thorny bobcat
I'll have to check it out next time
hot yoke
Walk.there every time
Same ritual as petting cerb and gifting Bouldy
The trifecta of good luck
floral nacelle
Bouldy is the best pet rock a man could ask for
hot yoke
More then a pet rock
stray fiber
I haven't had a chance to talk to it yet, how many nectars to sisyphus unlocks it?
hot yoke
Just keep playing
hot yoke
Should give one to all first
stray fiber
Gifted him 1, got the keepsake and now I just talk to him
yea I think I've given one to everyone except the olympian gods
hot yoke
Olympian are prolly the most important keepsakes
floral nacelle
yeah, they help you setup your run
stray fiber
When do you get a chance to gift them? I am a very casual player btw. The closest to ambrosia (I had not googled in the past but I just joined now and am not worried about spoilers) is Cereberus and Meg.
floral nacelle
you gift them before they grant you their boon
stray fiber
I must have missed it then, does it need anything to be unlocked for it to show up?
leaden whale
press the gift button on their boon sphere
hot yoke
Doesn't work in shops
stray fiber
cool, ty
leaden whale
Hey guys, am new. I want the game to last for as long as possible, discover the lore and so on. Any spoiler-free tips on what should I do/explore/where to go? Feel free to DM!
hot yoke
Well first off you should be p spoiler free if you just ask questions in here for now
Also nice name
Otherwise just keep playing the game
You'll discover and unlock most stuff with repeated runs
leaden whale
I was thinking - perhaps don't buy all power ups?
Because as I see, the game isn't that hard, just gotta have patience/learn some mechanics with each encounter.
hot yoke
What you mean?
leaden whale
Like the darkness stuff, you know?
hot yoke
Power ups?
Mirror perks unlock key ways to play the game
Go to town
The ||pact option that turns your mirror perks off|| is seen as one of the worst because it takes so much away from you
That's honestly a bad tip
Especially for beginner players
gritty fjord
Cant live without my double dash
leaden whale
I see, well, it makes sense, but I guess it adds an extra challenge?
Oooh, you're actually right.
Double Dash
hot yoke
There's an option for extra challenge after you beat your first run
leaden whale
😣
hot yoke
And that will add more than enough
floral nacelle
and the last mirror unlocks do so much you won't want to go without them
gritty fjord
I think the game turns more frustrating than anything without any nitro buffs
*mirror
That's an auto correct
WEIRD AUTO CORRECT
leaden whale
I like ruthless reflex bc I can fish for extra dashes
hot yoke
Only on secret fists
I like my guaranteed I frames and mobility
I'm a zippity zoop boyo
leaden whale
just experimenting w it rn to do the mirror prophecy thing
hot yoke
Feel ya
It's good for skill training also
gritty fjord
Tfw no bouldy plush
gritty fjord
one day
thick rune
... I'm now very tempted to make a bouldy
hot yoke
Please
thick rune
Crochet rock
stray fiber
Hey guys, am new. I want the game to last for as long as possible, discover the ...
The best spoiler free tip I can give is to not google or subscribe to hades subreddits or even join the discord. I am a very casual player but wanted the same thing and had refrained from doing all these until I actually cleared it a few times. I just joined today 😄
stray fiber
||But we just spoke about bouldy earlier. For example I only found out later that it can actually talk, I haven't even unlocked it yet||
leaden whale
good stuff
heady comet
?? how do you have||52 heat|| on ur 3rd time
stray fiber
Will keep the spoiler rule in mind though, ty.
leaden whale
lol I did a double take wait what
hot yoke
What you mean he has ||1||?
heady comet
on adamant rail
hot yoke
Tf are you taking about
sly vigil
yeah what;s up with thatclear on rail lol
hot yoke
@sly vigil Ahem spoiler
heady comet
look at adamant rail clear
hot yoke
look at adamant rail clear
Where
heady comet
in the victory pic
hot yoke
Wrong channel?
sly vigil
even when it's wrong, the pic begs questions lmao
and the caption my first time beating ||him||
what is up with this file xD
hot yoke
Where TF are we
heady comet
oh wait he left the server already
leaden whale
LOL
heady comet
must have been a troll or something
sly vigil
max a weird file, post in #h1-for-new-players to flex on the newbies.
@hot yoke look closer at the victory pic that you Heart emote, not too far up
heady comet
the "my third clear, wooo!"
sly vigil
yeah
hot yoke
Oh wow
sly vigil
lmao
hot yoke
Could've sworn he was on this channel since at least a couple days
heady comet
better tell that guy in #h1-discussion that this guy has him beat already
floral nacelle
yeah, how did he do a 52 heat rail run?
sly vigil
I bet he modifed the save file