#h1-for-new-players

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muted latch
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god mode is available everywhere outside of hell mode

cursive prism
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Ah nice

delicate night
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There are no checkpoints in the runs, right?

muted latch
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quitting in a safe area saves the game

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you can return to continue

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dont use give up, it resets you back to pre run

delicate night
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But I can't save my progress at some point and always start from there again, I assume

muted latch
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you cant

delicate night
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👍

gusty thorn
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Cursed Slash is a good boon?

cursive prism
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Make sure to talk to Hypnos, he always has good advice

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I believe Cursed Slash is generally regarded as a really bad one

muted latch
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cursed slash is bait, dont pick it

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it sounds nice but it's really not worth it

delicate night
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is that the one applying weak on hit?

cursive prism
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Its a cool effect but the penalty is too harsh

gusty thorn
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Yeah, i tought so

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-60% is rly harsh

muted latch
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no it's life steal on hit but reduces HP by 60%

cursive prism
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Cursed Slash is a hammer upgrade for the sword that reduces your max health by 60% but heals you for 2hp every time you hit something

gusty thorn
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Not even life steal

delicate night
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that sounds really bad, lol 😄

gusty thorn
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Is just a flat 2 hp heal

muted latch
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just heal yeah

delicate night
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Have not seen it in game yet.

muted latch
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it's pretty bad

cursive prism
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You need to pick it once.. and then never again

delicate night
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Don't tell me it is getting forced on me 😬

cursive prism
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I dont know, maybe there is a magical combination of boons that would make it good

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Its sort of a minor spoiler, but you get a list of tasks, one of those tasks is to pick each hammer upgrade for the sword

delicate night
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F

gusty thorn
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And what about Big Chop?

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Seems pretty good for me

cursive prism
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Its fun, not sure if good

gusty thorn
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90 flat dmg

cursive prism
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Its a lot for sure, try it

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Some of these things are personal preference too

gusty thorn
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Yeah

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Ofc

cursive prism
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The sword overall I think has pretty low impact hammers, nothing really stands out

gusty thorn
cursive prism
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Except for cursed slash, in a bad way

delicate night
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+38% dmg looks really good imo, but I'm a noob 😅

gusty thorn
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Yeah, it is a lot

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And I'm a noob too, but I think flat > percentual in this game

cursive prism
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Both are good tbh, and both apply on dash strikes, which is a good move for the sword

gusty thorn
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But Idk

cursive prism
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You can go either way

gusty thorn
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Ty

cursive prism
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Dash attack still applies attack-effects, so essentially hunter dash can stack with other attack effects

gusty thorn
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Yeah

indigo shore
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For the mirror is there a best talent for each of the two? Or is it just preference based

leaden whale
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Preference, really

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And what you want from your in-run builds, selected weapons

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So preference

indigo shore
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Got it, thank you

leaden whale
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Good luck out there

indigo shore
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haha thanks, I'd say I'm doing okay in my runs

muted latch
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Preference, although there are some that's arguably better at early stage

gusty thorn
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Hey, digmouse, i did reset my mirror

muted latch
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later on you can (and will) incorporate mirror choices into you runs once you have more control over RNG

jolly pecan
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How do i unlock the Aspect of ??? for the weapons. Ignore this if it involves major spoilers.

muted latch
jolly pecan
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Thanks!

pastel cipher
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@jolly pecan ||the Hades fight is spoilers in this channel, please use shoulder tags||

jolly pecan
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@pastel cipher My apologies

sterile solar
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lmfao love your name and pic

viscid idol
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By the gods it's really disheartening to get all the way to the surface, only to die to ||Hades||

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But I'll keep going

delicate night
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yikes, I forgot I have discord spoilers disabled xx. Suprise is gone 😦 Fixed the setting so I don't screw it up next time 😅

hidden acorn
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i finally beat ||hades|| but now i have a question. what is ||heat|| exactly

leaden whale
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Adjustable ||difficulty modifiers||

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Max level is specific for each weapon

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Increases each clear

hidden acorn
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so pros and cons?

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should i use it

leaden whale
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For gathering new items like blood and diaminds and etc

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Yes you should

hidden acorn
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oh thanks

leaden whale
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You can overfill by the way, it'll do the lowest then go to the next

woeful venture
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Questions, in the heat menu there is an option called "Damage Control" it shows a blue hearth, and says ignore 1 instance of damage per hit. does that count per swing or just the first swing? Also is the blue hearth the icon for Armor or does it mean something else ?

obsidian locust
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It means that the first instance of damage on the enemy will be ignored

woeful venture
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So per fight you will loose 1 hitpoint in the total fight against that mob ?

obsidian locust
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Oh no no, the mob will ignore the first instance of damage you inflict on it

woeful venture
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Ok so 1 swing is lost if I would start with a swing

obsidian locust
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Essentially

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However it will be consumed on taking any form of damage

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Casts, traps, attacks, deflects.

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So fast hitting weapons are great to go against DC

woeful venture
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Thanks for clearing that up. I am trying to figure out which one to go with but it seems that since Iam going with the sword this one seems a good one to go with.

obsidian locust
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Well if you're starting, then I suggest getting used to Extreme Measures since that will most likely be a staple at higher heats

muted latch
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EM1 and 2 are trivial so it's very popular to just enable them at low heat

obsidian locust
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Agreed

fossil spindle
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Do you guys have any good tips for the Elysium boss? I have a pretty good setup rn and just got Premium Styx Kiss so I wanted to see if I can beat them second try

frosty basin
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focus the bull first

cursive prism
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Yeah focus the bull and try to keep a pillar between you and Theseus as much as possible so he doesn't clip you with his Javelin

quaint nebula
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It took me a few tries to beat them

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You need to learn their patterns

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You’ll have bad days when you’ll die to them still but you’ll be able to beat them easily 🙂

fossil spindle
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Yeah this try I was close to finishing the Minotaur, but I didn't watch out for Theseus spear and got hit twice...

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I think I'll need more damage output

nova owl
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can someome|| explain me in the mirror the thing called privilegend status/family favorite and whats it is doing||

cursive prism
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||Privileged Status|| is a damage boost if your target is afflicted by two "status curses", basically debuffs from the various gods

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||Family Favorite|| just gives you a passive damage boost based on how many different gods you currently have boons from

quaint nebula
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Jolted Rupture Exposed Doom Marked Weak Hangover Chill

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I prefer FF as it enables more builds and makes regular encounters quicker and easier

cursive prism
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It is for sure the easier one to handle of the two

craggy sage
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Hiya! Newbie here!
I have played just 4 hours or so, such a good game honestly.

I have a question about the weapons.
Should I pick one and learn that and just grind with that weapon or should I swap around to get the titan blood? Currently in the story idk what the bloods do.

I also see that one of the weapons each attempt glow purple, that's only for bonus points right?

So no need to equip said weapon unless I want the farm mats or am I thinking wrong?

quaint nebula
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PS is better for bosses and mini bosses

cursive prism
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although PS is a bit more damage when you know how to use it

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Yeah, the glowing weapon gives you bonus darkness

quaint nebula
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Always use purple weapon 🙂

leaden whale
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PS is better for bosses and mini bosses
@quaint nebula PS?

cursive prism
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But you can use any weapon you want if you dont care

leaden whale
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i am using spear rn

quaint nebula
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Always Dark Thirst 🙂

leaden whale
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and made it to the bone hydra after first four hours

cursive prism
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Before you've beaten the final boss you can only get a titan blood for each weapon from the first boss, so I'd advice you to do that

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Although practicing and beating the final boss with a favorite weapon is of course also an option

craggy sage
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I only ask because there's weapons I can barely get past the first boss, but with the spear I get to Theseus and The Minotaur. So I've definitely found a weapon I like :p

leaden whale
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oh so basically beat meg with each weapon?

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I only ask because there's weapons I can barely get past the first boss, but with the spear I get to Theseus and The Minotaur. So I've definitely found a weapon I like :p
wow you much better than me

fossil spindle
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Is there a especially good aspect for any weapon? I only have 3 blood so I dont want to waste any, I have just gotten the possibility to aspect

quaint nebula
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I unlocked them all before levelling any up

cursive prism
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Really before you've beaten the final boss any aspect is fine with any weapon, it's more about finding one you like the playstyle of

leaden whale
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wow you much better than me
and to think i did bastion 100% :/

quaint nebula
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And every run I play the dark thirst weapon next aspect

fossil spindle
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Are you able to retrieve the titan blood in exchange for locking the aspect after you bought it?

craggy sage
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and to think i did bastion 100% :/

I don't even know what bastion is xD

cursive prism
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No, but you can eventually get more titan blood anyway, but it's a bit of a long process

leaden whale
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I don't even know what bastion is xD
@craggy sage MUST PLAY it. on sale too

craggy sage
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I'll check it out.

leaden whale
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craggy sage
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Ah, I see. Is it the same concept?

cursive prism
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You can trade 5 keys for a nectar, 10 nectar for a diamond, 2 diamond for an ambrosia and then that ambrosia for a titan blood

leaden whale
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Ah, I see. Is it the same concept?
@craggy sage it feels same yet very different

cursive prism
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You can also sometimes get limited deals at the trader for 15 keys = 1 titan blood

nova owl
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good gods

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with twin fits?

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fists

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i mean boons

quaint nebula
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Any 🙂

nova owl
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🙂

quaint nebula
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Ares, Dio or Zeus attack

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Anyone else special

cursive prism
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Should be noted that the fist weapons benefit a lot from boons that are particularly good with quick attacks, but even then percentage buffs are fine too

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So yeah, Dio, Zeus and ||Demeter|| are pretty good in particular, Athena is an honorable mention because your fast attacks will often deflect random stuff

quaint nebula
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^

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That’s why I say any god

cursive prism
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I'd say Doom is a little iffy, but the others are usually fine

quaint nebula
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You can’t really go wrong with boons

alpine ridge
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you can go wrong with the timing for boons

quaint nebula
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There’s always Sisyphus and purging if you mess up 😉

alpine ridge
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Like the ones that increase health gained or boon rarity

craggy sage
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Oh that brings me to another question. Which Boon is the "best"
I'm assuming it's dependent on playstyle and what type of weapon you use.?

alpine ridge
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picking those late in the run are less than effective 😄

quaint nebula
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Side Hustle is best 😉

cursive prism
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It really is a "it depends" because boons lose and gain value depending on what you have already

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But if you really force an answer out of me I'd say something like Greatest Reflex

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Because it's just kind of generally good with any build

craggy sage
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What's the stats on that one?

cursive prism
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Divine Dash I guess also is close

alpine ridge
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The Aphrodite attack I would say is generally the best for any aspect

cursive prism
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Greatest reflex just gives you more dash charges

alpine ridge
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Highest attack multiplier and one of the best debuffs, Weak

cursive prism
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1, 2 or 3 depending on rarity of the boon

craggy sage
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I see, thanks

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Btw, the reflect on attack, what drops those? I've seen them twice and they're disgustingly good

cursive prism
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Also Divine Dash, hard to say no to that one since it's so generally good as a defensive dash

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Athena deals in all deflect things

alpine ridge
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Athena does the Reflect boons

cursive prism
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(Yellow shield-y icon)

craggy sage
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Guess I'm making Athena my God for a bit, lmao

quaint nebula
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Athena is the best

craggy sage
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Gotta find her again and give her the gift

quaint nebula
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I love Poseidon though

craggy sage
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He's fun with the knock back

quaint nebula
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Poseidon is insane in region 4

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I'll dash once and everything kills itself 😄

cursive prism
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He has a lot of interesting boons for sure

craggy sage
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Haha, nice

quaint nebula
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Oh yeah, he's also good for farming

craggy sage
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Can you have as many boons/actives as you want or is there a cap?

quaint nebula
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No limit

craggy sage
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I've seen the sell vendors but haven't really seen the use of it just yet.

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No limit? Awesome!

quaint nebula
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The game may have a secret limit though

alpine ridge
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if you need gold and have boons you're not really using, they're pretty good

quaint nebula
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I don't like purging boons

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I pretty much never do it

cursive prism
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Nah, although do note that boons that buff "the same thing" from different gods will overwrite eachother but increase rarity, so if you have Dionysis dash but then find Athena dash she will overwrite it but increase rarity to rare (or epic/heroic if the previous dash was a higher rarity)

quaint nebula
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only time I'll do it is before the final boss

cursive prism
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The game tells you when you're about to overwrite something however, so it's pretty clear

quaint nebula
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sell a poseidon legendary for an athena legendary or something like that 😄

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it's possible a god will only give you replacements

craggy sage
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There's legendaries? 🤓 (is joke)

I've only seen epic as the highest hahah

quaint nebula
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you really think epic is highest? 😉

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of course there's got to be a legendary

craggy sage
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I'm guessing the keepsakes you want to wear is whomever you're going most for.

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Haha, ofc there's gotta be legendaries! :D

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I'm guessing the keepsakes you want to wear is whomever you're going most for.

What I mean is.

If you want to cash in most on Athena boons, you go with her keepsake.

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At least it guarantees the first one, which is always nice

cursive prism
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You could sort of put the boons into a tree for each god, like Athena will first offer boons that offer the ability to deflect, when you have something that deflects she can offer boons that debuff with exposed or increase damage of deflected attacks

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and pretty much all gods work like this

craggy sage
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Oh, yeah that makes sense. Now that you say it, I remember getting the same abilities more often on the first one.

cursive prism
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In a very basic sense you could say that getting more boons from the same god is good since they tend to synergize with themselves

craggy sage
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Instead of them overlapping or as you say, don't synergize

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Smart

cursive prism
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The thing that throws a wrench into this is duo boons, which means that they combine elements of two gods together to create a unique effect.

For instance, if you have something from Zeus that can shock enemies and something from Poseidon that knocks back, both of them have a chance now to offer you Sea Storm, that will shock enemies when they are knocked back

craggy sage
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:o

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That creates a whole lot of builds

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Noice

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Opens up for*

cursive prism
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Indeed, the duos are pretty much the topper of a build

craggy sage
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Do you have any preferred boons/duo boons for the spear?

obsidian locust
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I assume you speak of the normal aspect of spear?

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Cause if so, Aphrodite on the special has never let me down

craggy sage
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I haven't even gotten as far as to know what an aspect is. xD

obsidian locust
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Ahh I see. Apologies 😅

craggy sage
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Haha, no worries

obsidian locust
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Athena on the attack is super fun cause you can make a nice big deflect spin

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But I think I have a lot of fun with Poseidon on attack

cursive prism
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Yeah I think a basic combo that works with basically any weapon is a doom applier from Ares and a deflect from Athena, Their duo is that your attacks that can deflect will instantly detonate the doom debuff

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So you apply the doom and the blow it up with whatever your deflector is

obsidian locust
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Try experimenting! You'll eventually find out what works and what doesn't by your self squirtnya

craggy sage
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Athena and Ares are legit the duo I was thinking of, no joke.
Good to see I'm not too far off haha.

cursive prism
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and yeah, you'll likely run into a bunch of these by chance

craggy sage
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Also very much like the zap effect from Zeus, the one that jumps between targets.

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I had the zap with ricochet on my bow, that was nice for clearing out long distance

obsidian locust
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I like Zeus Attack on the really fast weapons since it just melts enemies mostly

craggy sage
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Like the gloves?

obsidian locust
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The sword, fists and the gun mostly

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I usually run zeus attack on gun and fists, but Ares has a higher dps on the fists.

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with Merciful End that is

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But since you'd have to build towards it, Zeus has much more consistency

craggy sage
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I see

modern pike
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I was just wondering - after 60+ attempts I've only managed to beat the last boss 2 times....am I doing something wrong?

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Do I plainly suck at the game? Or?

fickle fox
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id say it depends.. im 55 runs in and havent even seen the final boss

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like im just playing with god mode on to make sure i eventually do beat it.. but the game is just so fun i dont care if i lose or not

candid nimbus
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As long as you're having fun

modern pike
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Yeah, I agree on that, I still enjoy it very much. It's just that I also enjoy what happens after you beat it

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So, I kinda want both hahaha

fickle fox
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the ONE time i got mad was after i beat the hydra i stood in the fire to long and died XD

candid nimbus
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Still lots to learn though, build intuition, mirror, knowing enemy attack patterns

quaint nebula
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Hey. Everyone sucks when they start out.

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Don't expect to be a god gamer on your first attempt.

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Just have fun and the skill will come to you.

modern pike
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I mostly have trouble over at elysium

quaint nebula
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Having fun is the most important part.

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If you're not having fun, you won't improve.

modern pike
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My fav weapon are the fists! But I do like the incentive to use all weapons

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I try to mix it up by using the one with extra darkness

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I've also been looking at some videos on YT, but it seems some ppl really know what boons to plan for etc

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I'm just going with what I get

nova owl
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best boons for bow?

modern pike
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Idk, probably related to artemis?

runic kite
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best boons for bow?
@nova owl
Check the pins

candid nimbus
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People know what boons to use based on experience I guess, the codex upgrade helps a lot when planning

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trying to specific duos or theme of a build tends to be what I do

gilded galleon
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Can someone help me with two questions about the boons system?
1- How can i improve my chances (strategy) of getting more boons of a specific god?
2- I don't really get how the replacement boons work, many times i try to get a random attack boon at the first biome (tartarus) hoping to replace it later, but its normally really hard to find replacement boons in general, and its even harder to find replacement from the god you want.

formal rover
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replacement boons are extremely rare; its like a 1% chance or something

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you're much better off just leaving your slot open than taking something not great and hoping for a swap

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getting the gods you want is mostly about using god keepsakes

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its also good to be aware that the game will stop offering you new gods once you have four (chaos and hermes don't count for this)

dusty gate
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Yeah banking on a swap is not the way to go

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If you need something specific in the slot leave it open and then equip the keepsake of the relevant deity

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Also you eventually get rerolls which help a lot for executing builds consistently

gilded galleon
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Thanks for the information!
Did not know about the 4 god rules, also it makes sense now that i never find replacement.
I need to get a better understanding of the boon system in general, i am trying to get legendary following the wiki requirements, but its really hard to get all you need to maybe get a legendary boon.

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Ahhh, rerolls may help, did not know about that.

dense laurel
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u can increase the chance with a lot of ways

dusty gate
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The wiki is outdated I found

dense laurel
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some is, but mostly the system stays the same

dusty gate
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In-game codex is the best source of specific information on requirements

formal rover
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yeah if you've unlocked the codex use that; the wiki may not be completely updated from EA

dusty gate
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Yeah

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Like I’m pretty sure the info on Zeus legendary isn’t current

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Most legendaries right now only require a few perks, so they’re reasonably consistent when you get far enough

formal rover
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i don't think the prereqs for splitting bolt were changed

dusty gate
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I can’t remember if it’s the wiki or another site

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But I saw one that said you needed both splitting bolt and one of two other perks

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And that just wasn’t right

formal rover
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yeah double strike, high voltage or storm lightning is what the wiki says

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that's correct

dusty gate
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It’s one of three thi

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Not splitting bolt plus one of the other two

formal rover
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yeah that's what is says

dusty gate
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Might be confusing it with another site then

formal rover
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wait

gilded galleon
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Also, which conditions from the pact are "Easy/safe"? i am using the time one for now, but i need more to farm titan blood.

dusty gate
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Either way the in-game codes is 100% accurate

formal rover
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you found something that said in order to get splitting bolt, you need to have splitting bolt?

dusty gate
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No

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In order to get Zeus legendary

dense laurel
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EM1 and EM2 is actually easy

dusty gate
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You needed the one with extra chains

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Plus

formal rover
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the name of the zeus legendary is splitting bolt

dusty gate
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One of either the double lightning strike one or another that I forgey

formal rover
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oh i see

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yeah that's wrong you only need one

dusty gate
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But you really just need one

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Yeah

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And the one with extra bounces has minimal prereqs

dense laurel
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Also, which conditions from the pact are "Easy/safe"? i am using the time one for now, but i need more to farm titan blood.
@gilded galleon EM1-3 and MM is quite simple to overcome

dusty gate
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The traps one isn’t bad either

dense laurel
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the traps is bad vs final boss

formal rover
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^

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MM and HS both have situations where they can be annoying; I'd recommend starting with TD1 and EM1-2

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they're both fine

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TD2 if you can do runs under 28 mins consistently

dense laurel
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i legit feel EM3 is easier than normal ones

formal rover
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i kinda agree, but its kinda setup dependant

dusty gate
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What on the final boss is a trap?

frosty basin
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Urns

dusty gate
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I’ve used it almost every run and haven’t noticed lol

frosty basin
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the green urns that normally stuns you for 30 damage

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HS brings that up to uh 150?

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If the traps of Styx didn't kill you, the urns will

dusty gate
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I haven’t had any issue with it, but I guess ymmv

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It’s just free heat for me

frosty basin
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wait this is new player channel

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uh

quiet silo
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I have an issue with timers so I never use the tight deadline. I used the traps one all the way up to 16 heat tho

dusty gate
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I just hate the feeling of being on a timer

frosty basin
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||I'd say UC when you have maxed Fated Persuasion, DC1-2 is easy heat on anything that isn't too slow like bows, Hestia rail||

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||JS1-3, BP1-2 are also worth considering though if you usually struggle with armoured mobs in Elysium, then keep BP for later||

scenic sparrow
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What's a good build for trying to survive with ||Guan Yu||

frosty basin
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try Athena attack

dusty gate
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Also if you’re using a high single target dps weapon like ||Chiron|| bow it’s better to crank up enemy hp, and if you’re using something with good crowd control like any Zeus build you can add extra enemies without much fuss

frosty basin
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can build towards Merciful End or Deadly Reversal or something else

dusty gate
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I tried merciful end on fists yesterday

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Instantly my fastest run ever lol

scenic sparrow
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That's the instant doom one?

dusty gate
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Yeah

cursive prism
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Tbh my best builds with ||Guan Yu|| have been special and doom based builds

frosty basin
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my ||16 heat|| run was actually just simply ||EM4, BP2, JS1|| which isn't a whole lot of conditions

dusty gate
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Athena dash, had Hermès +1 dash

frosty basin
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I recently ran Dio attack+Ares spec towards Curse of Nausea on hidden spear and it's good fun as well

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..was a farming run though with only ||JS3|| so I can't tell you how effective is that really is

cursive prism
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I had Aphro+Ares for the continuous doom procs and runrunrun

dusty gate
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I’m not following the acronyms, but if that’s the boss one, yeah it gives a crap ton of heat

frosty basin
#

yeah ||EM4|| totals like 10 ||heat||

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quite a bit

dusty gate
#

Yeah

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It’s not really worth that much heat lol

cursive prism
#

Depends, I havent tried the ||EM4|| final fight yet

frosty basin
#

||EM4|| is mainly to spice up the final fight for me honestly

cursive prism
#

Gotta see what I think about it myself :P

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But normally the final fight is no issue for me anymore

frosty basin
#

same

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and then the music kicks in and the pain begins

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sweet, sweet pain

dense laurel
#

no pain if u using poseidon call + zeus/aphro duo

frosty basin
#

oh that's a good idea actually

tired grotto
#

A fair number of my successful runs I feel like I could have done ||em4|| based on what I've heard about it. Especially when I got pumped up blizzard shot with extra casts

cursive prism
#

When the reason for me losing my DDs start turning from "I'm bad" to "I'm dumb", it's generally pretty good

frosty basin
#

||EM4|| is an experience you gotta try out for yourself

tired grotto
#

Maybe there's more to it than I realize, it doesn't sound that spectacular

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Course I gotta get through ||em3|| first

dusty gate
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||its kinda more of the same, but the restricted vision is annoying||

frosty basin
#

ymmv in any case

cursive prism
#

But that means I gotta stop doing random conditions, it's too much fun

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and like, manually put ||EM4|| in there

dense laurel
#

em3 is arguably easier than the normal ones in most stuations imo

tired grotto
#

Most damage I take from normal theseus and bull is from just barely misjudging where to stand to be behind a pillar

cursive prism
#

Yeah the Theseus noscopes are too hard

frosty basin
#

though melee against ||EM3|| Asterius can be rather tricky

harsh leaf
#

Asterius should probably always spin out of his second phase, and spin more often in general for that fight to be proper hard

frosty basin
#

True

dense laurel
#

asterius melee only tricky with FO imo

obsidian locust
#

Haha Bull go brrrr

craggy sage
#

The diamonds, should I save them for something special? Because right now I'm at the place where I can ||free Orpheus from the contractor with 1 diamond||

dense laurel
#

all contracts u buy for prophecies is worth it

craggy sage
#

So he's a prophecy then? 😛

frosty basin
#

You should know that after upgrading the contractor's table there will be work orders to augment blue laurel chambers to have additional rewards on top of the usual gems/darkness/keys/nectar

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those take diamonds

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but you won't have enough from the starting amount you get with all 6 weapons before winning a run

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you need to win then ||use the pact|| to get more diamonds

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FYI

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TLDR just.. spend it

craggy sage
#

I see, I haven't gotten past Elysium yet, so I have a bit to go then

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Aiit

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Ty xD

dusty gate
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How do you make it so that you can ||use meg against hades||?

obsidian locust
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You get access after the credits!

dusty gate
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||max her affinity?||

frosty basin
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just keep playing, at some point ||Hades will allow companions from those work under the House||

dusty gate
#

Lol that’s random

blissful widget
#

||Is Charon an option?||

obsidian locust
#

@blissful widget For?

blissful widget
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companionship

dusty gate
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Nope

blissful widget
#

sad

obsidian locust
#

Sadly no

frosty basin
#

I don't recall the specifics of the prereqs for when he does that though

obsidian locust
#

We could all use some more rich boatman in our lives 😔

blissful widget
#

fr tho

dusty gate
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I’m still waiting on the ||sisyphus|| dialogue lol

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I’ve done like 40 runs

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It still hasn’t triggered

blissful widget
#

really

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||The one where Meg is threatening him?||

dusty gate
#

Yeah nyx has more important things to talk about apparently

obsidian locust
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Do make sure you got all the prerequisites!

blissful widget
#

oh that

obsidian locust
#

The dialogue is still rng, but don't worry! It'll take a while

dusty gate
#

I still need ||nyx to tell me where the scroll is||

blissful widget
#

||Why am I so bad at fishing like||

dusty gate
#

I suck at it too

blissful widget
#

"press e"

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presses e

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tOo EaRlY

dusty gate
#

Froggy?!

blissful widget
#

the one time i was on time

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I clicked instead of pressing e

dusty gate
#

Lol

blissful widget
#

and lost it

dusty gate
#

I’ll press F next time

formal rover
#

forget boss fights, fishing is the real challenge in this game

blissful widget
#

exactly

dusty gate
#

It’s true

blissful widget
#

||Meg = EZ Hydra = EZ Theseus and Minotaur = EZ fishing = hard||

dusty gate
#

Yeah

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It just like halves their life lol

blissful widget
#

||I stack my Death Defiance for the final battle but I always waste them when trying to get last minute boons and the satyr sack||

dusty gate
#

I’m still getting in the habit of using it, I forget a lot

#

Yeah

#

Well those enemies suck

blissful widget
#

||The poison hurts so much that I end up going to Hades with one DD lol||

dusty gate
#

That’s a good place to use it up

#

Lol ya

marsh haven
#

That poison is impossible for me to consistently avoid

blissful widget
#

exactly

dusty gate
#

I save 1-2 in case I get a mini boss there

blissful widget
#

The gems are fine

marsh haven
#

I’m usually playing so chaotic that I don’t even recognize I’m poisoned until it’s already taken half my HP

dusty gate
#

And those rats can go to hell

formal rover
#

satyrs are agents of the fates

blissful widget
#

the poison hurts so much that when I kill all the rats

formal rover
#

they cannot be dodged

blissful widget
#

I get yeeted by the gems

formal rover
#

they cannot be avoided

#

your only choice is to pray

dusty gate
#

I like reflecting the darts

blissful widget
#

I always try to get deflect

formal rover
#

or athena

#

that's your other choice

blissful widget
#

Deflect attack is great on the spear for me but like

dusty gate
#

My best runs tend to have a lot of Athena

blissful widget
#

I've tried Deflect Dash and I find it okay

dusty gate
#

Deflect dash is great

blissful widget
#

I prefer lots of Hermes, Artemis, and Demeter

dusty gate
#

Her call is also great

#

So is her legendary boon and it’s not hard to get

blissful widget
#

love the speed from hermes

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and the bonus damage when you stack other bonus attack damage boons

dusty gate
#

For most builds you always want to take Hermes when you can, yeah

#

Coins are always good

#

Attack speed is usually helpful, as are the extra dashes

uneven wing
#

Any tips for the duo in ely? I’ve gotten there a few times but thes keeps killing me and I don’t know what else to do

dusty gate
#

What weapon are you using

frosty basin
#

You don't need duos for Elysium

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or Duos to win for that matter

blissful widget
#

they mean the bosses

dusty gate
#

He means how to kill the boss

frosty basin
#

Oh right but still

dusty gate
#

For most focus ||asterius|| down first

frosty basin
#

do you have access to ||admin chamber|| yet

craggy sage
#

I can't seem to find Athena, is it completely random or can I "force"/increase my odds of getting her boon? I need to gift her an offering to get the keepsake 😦

uneven wing
#

I was using the spear the last run. Used gun and shield but DD lost when I fought miniboss

blissful widget
#

Honestly I've now beat them with every weapon and one thing I'd have to say is use slows

dusty gate
#

But some builds can kill ||theseus|| very quickly, as he has much less hp

blissful widget
#

Have you made it to the surface yet?

frosty basin
#

It's random though, mind that this is speculation of my own, the game tries to not repeat gods within two consecutive runs

dusty gate
#

Spear just kinda sucks imo

blissful widget
#

I love the reach on it

dusty gate
#

It’s the same range as machine gun attack roughly

blissful widget
#

Achilles spear is too up close and personal for my liking so I've been using Zag Spear

frosty basin
#

so let's say you get Zeus, Posiedon, Artemis, Aphrodite in one run then for next run you won't see those four again

uneven wing
#

I really liked it. Can’t reach the surface yet because those 2 mess me up

craggy sage
#

I see @frosty basin
I just can't seem to find her hmm 😦

frosty basin
#

but this is guesswork

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so worst case scenario just die until you find her

blissful widget
#

I want to try Guan Yu's aspect but

frosty basin
blissful widget
#

i hear it's not as good now

craggy sage
#

Does my keepsake being Zeus affect it in any way?

#

The first one is always Zeus

#

Obviously

dusty gate
#

It takes away one roll that could have been Athena

#

Otherwise no

craggy sage
#

True, true,,

frosty basin
#

yeah ^

#

just take it off

blissful widget
#

Do you get a hammer occasionally at start yet?

#

Or is that due to reaching the surface or something?

craggy sage
#

Yes I've gotten it few times

frosty basin
#

god keepsake will make sure you find their boons as early as possible

blissful widget
#

okay cool

frosty basin
#

though hammer, Hermes might be in the way

blissful widget
#

On spear I usually go for the upgrade that makes you have a longer range and do more damage to farther enemies

frosty basin
#

I love the spear honestly

blissful widget
#

Just so I can poke and vibe

dusty gate
#

On spear I usually switch to a different weapon

frosty basin
#

change my mind

blissful widget
#

spear is great

#

I just can't use the achilles aspect anymore

#

causes my death in asphodel so much

formal rover
#

ah yes, the old "yeet into the lava" strategy

#

a classic

dusty gate
#

Also @uneven wing once you start getting weapon ||aspects|| things get much, much easier

blissful widget
#

yes

#

My first time killing all bosses minus untitled end boss were with Aegis but

#

half of the time I would die so I don't particularly like aegis without aspects

dusty gate
#

Yeah shield was my first clear too

dense laurel
#

fists is my first clear

dusty gate
#

||aspect of poseidon|| is a good one to unlock early because it’s very useful without much blood investment

blissful widget
#

i never use sword tho

#

Sword is easy to kill bosses with but I really don't like it without deflect

dusty gate
#

Cool, but I’m sure you can appreciate that some people do lol

blissful widget
#

yeah yeah definitely

dusty gate
#

||aspect of poseidon|| also plays totally differently

blissful widget
#

The witches just hurt sooo much without deflect

frosty basin
#

Honestly the best aspects to first unlock varies widely between people

dusty gate
#

Of course personal preference factors in lol

frosty basin
#

Eris rail is speedrunner meta but that needs some blood investment too beyond the unlocking cost

dusty gate
#

But for some of the ||aspects||, a big part of their value is a numerical boost that requires nearly maxing it

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For others, they’re useful right away on unlock

#

All else equal, those are good ones to shoot for early

frosty basin
#

pick the weapon you like the most, pick the ||aspect|| of its kit you like the most - attack, special, attack+ like spin attack or bull rush etc

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Since I find that ||aspects|| tend to focus on a part of a weapon's kit

uneven wing
#

I cleared harpies with everything I think so I’m on a weird try and fail system to beat the big baddie

#

In order to get blood

#

Aside from writing it down pre- first clear, can you track which weapons you defeated what with?

sweet root
#

you can track weapon bounties after you beat the game for the first time

#

before then you'll just have to remember

#

or write it down or something

uneven wing
#

Thought so. Thanks

scenic sparrow
#

Are the blood/diamonds sold at Charon's final shop a one time per weapon/heat level thing, or can I keep going through 0 heat to farm them if I want

#

Assuming I can actually get there with enough money anyway

spring jungle
#

You can keep going with 0 heat though I dont recommend it

#

It would be faster to just turn up the heat

dense laurel
#

the shop is always there iirc

spring jungle
#

It is

scenic sparrow
#

I assumed the shop itself would always be there I was just wondering if the blood would be replaced by a different item if I've already bought it previously

harsh leaf
#

That slot is always a 50/50 between diamond and TB

scenic sparrow
#

And yeah so far I have all the blood & diamonds from the furies/hydra on heat 0 or 1, can't get more until I beat a heat 1 run which I keep failing at

#

Debating whether to commit to an aspect and max it out

spring jungle
#

The one one ive maxed out is the first one for the spear

#

because its special is really good

#

easy backstabs and amazing upgrades

slate iris
#

||Poseidon Sword|| is super fun, especially with an Artemis build with her legendary and exit wounds

spring jungle
#

I havent tried that one out yet

sullen river
#

It’s so funny when you max out the heat gauge and the blurb that comes with it

hybrid coyote
#

U just used my first 2 bloods upgrading to the Poseidon sword. Got to last boss once but it seems inconsistent

harsh leaf
#

Poseidon really benefits from heavy blood investment

hybrid coyote
#

Should I be saving the rest of my bloods or spending them? They seem very limited

pulsar frigate
#

your first few blood i'd spend some time thinking on, but there's more than enough blood for everything

blissful widget
#

I was a dummy and thought you could use multiple aspects together so I'd say save them at the beginning

harsh leaf
#

They are. If you're unsure where to spend them, you can always buy the upgrades you want, go on a run to try them out, then quit the run (dont die) and you'll be back with all your blood refunded

blissful widget
#

On another note, ||I did just get Coronacht's secret aspect||

harsh leaf
#

Just dont leave back to your room after spending blood either, that'll save

hybrid coyote
#

Good tip!

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What keepsakes do you guys start out with for first encounter? Do you try and force a boon for your build?

#

I’ve been using the gold one but I feel like that is not optimal

spring jungle
#

I personally like the butterfly

candid nimbus
#

I swap between pouch/godkeepsake/plume

#

depending on what kinda build I'm going for

spring jungle
#

Ill usually have +20% damage by the time I reach elisum.

candid nimbus
#

Fates take the wheel I go pouch, want specific build- god keepsake, dodgefist? plume

hybrid coyote
#

Hmm interesting

candid nimbus
#

I'm too bad to use butterfly lol

spring jungle
#

Id say butterfly makes you better at the game

blissful widget
#

@hybrid coyote Depending on how far I want to get, I change it up every boss fight

spring jungle
#

It gives you a strong incentive to really avoid taking damage

blissful widget
#

I usually go 1. Boon I want first 2. Second boon or chaos egg 3. third boon 4. Tooth

#

1 being before I escape, 4 being before I fight Elysium's boss

hybrid coyote
#

Ok thanks! I’m still very new so any tips are appreciated.

spring jungle
#

The game loves to throw curveballs at you when you least expect it.

hybrid coyote
#

Ya I love it lol got it yesterday and played for like 6 hours straight

spring jungle
#

itll probably be at least 25-30 attempts before you make it to the final boss.

hybrid coyote
#

I made it on my 23rd attempt but I lost. I had some janky ass build idk how I made it that far

spring jungle
#

How far did you make it?

hybrid coyote
#

To the final boss

#

Wel I think it’s the final one

spring jungle
#

In Elysium?

blissful widget
#

The final boss isn't in Elysium

spring jungle
#

SPOILERS

hybrid coyote
#

Idk how to do spoiler tag

blissful widget
#

How is that a spoiler?

#

I didn't say who the boss is

#

or where they are

spring jungle
#

but yeah Tartarus and Asterias arent the final boss

blissful widget
#

spoilers

#

lol

harsh leaf
#

Their names are Theseus and Asterius

spring jungle
#

Oh right

hybrid coyote
#

It was after those dudes

spring jungle
#

I never cared about Theseus

#

Asterius I wish I didnt have to fight

hybrid coyote
#

|| Hades ||

#

Is he the final boss?

spring jungle
#

Yes

#

But did you die in the first or second phase?

hybrid coyote
#

First phase lol

spring jungle
#

For a brief moment I was able to read his mind when I asked that question

hybrid coyote
#

I had some janky doom build that took forever to kill. Took me like 10 mins to kill the bull and his friend

#

Kiting around the pillars

spring jungle
#

Also spoiler alert

#

||hades is still a prick afterwards||

#

I still wish I didnt have to fight Asterius. Like just talk to him instead.

harsh leaf
#

I mean

#

You can probably talk all you want, he still gonna club you

grand moon
#

at least asterius is noble

#

theseus is like, oh yeah mm yeah im epic, oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah and then he dies

spring jungle
#

I want to talk to him instead of fighting for once.

mental widget
#

They are both cuties

spring jungle
#

I like Asterius more

harsh leaf
#

Plenty of dialogue to be had in Asterius' miniboss room

spring jungle
#

I know but it always devolves into fighting

mental widget
#

"Short one"

spring jungle
#

I dont mind being called short one by such a big boi

candid nimbus
#

I mean... he is...correct

dense laurel
#

It gives you a strong incentive to really avoid taking damage
@spring jungle as if ur objective to purposefully getting hit in the first place

half fractal
#

Maybe if you build for on damage effects but that seems maybe not so wise.

dusty gate
#

Okay, nyx is out of dialogue and she still hasn’t ||given me the location of the Sisyphus scroll||

#

Hades is also out of dialogue

#

Wtf

nova helm
#

RNG has forsaken you.

harsh leaf
#

You also need some dialogue from Meg and Achilles for that, I believe

spring jungle
#

I want to befriend Asterius and talk to him out of combat

gray haven
#

I don't think Asterius does "out of combat" lol.

spring jungle
#

Well he has to do something that isnt fighting me.

#

Or waiting to fight me

gray haven
#

Sure. Fighting with Theseus in preparation for fighting you.

cinder harness
#

what does the door with an exclamation point mean?

gray haven
#

That's an NPC chamber.

harsh leaf
#

Pick it and find out!

dusty gate
#

Achilles is also out of dialogue for me

#

I’ve also seen the dialogue between meg and Sisyphus

#

No idea what’s going on

#

I’ll keep grinding it out, but does anyone know where exactly you get ||the scroll from the archives||?

harsh leaf
#

It doesnt show up until Nyx mentions it

dusty gate
#

It’s possible I just didn’t see the dialogue and don’t know what to do now

#

Right, but where exactly is it?

harsh leaf
#

It's an inspection point in the back

dusty gate
#

Ok thx

#

Like near the blood pool?

harsh leaf
#

Towards that wall, yeah

#

Dont remember the exact location

dusty gate
#

Thx

#

I’ll see if I missed it

woeful venture
#

Do rewards go up as you get higher Heat levels ?

cursive prism
#

No, but you cant get the same rewards again with the same weapon

#

or well, the first kill rewards

#

So to get more, you gotta go up

woeful venture
#

You get new boss drops when you change weapons?

cursive prism
#

Yes

woeful venture
#

I have only played with swords until now

#

oh 😮

#

should change it up soon then

cursive prism
#

If you swap to the spear, you can get another titan blood from Meg for instance

woeful venture
#

Nice I didn't know that 🙂

cursive prism
#

Kind of encourages you to try all of them to make farming a little easier

dusty gate
#

Yeah

#

Before your first clear it’s a great idea to beat meg with all the weapons at least

#

Getting a decent ||aspect|| up to a reasonable level makes a big difference

spring jungle
#

I maxed out the first aspect on the spear

#

the one that makes its special better

harsh leaf
#

Maxing out Zag aspects is okay as well, since those only take 5 blood and offer reasonable power boosts

tough viper
#

the default aspect

gray haven
#

@woeful venture ||Heat|| is actually spoilers here. squirtnya

woeful venture
#

for the weapon?

#

sorry didn't know 😮

jade jewel
#

How can I do the quest of || achilles || to gain || antos ||

harsh leaf
#

Gotta talk to Patroclus

#

Or, ya know, just check the pinned post in the spoiler chat

dusty gate
#

I tried giving nyx some nectar, hopefully she’ll start talking again next run

#

Scroll wasn’t available unfortunately

leaden whale
#

At what point in the game can I move to the regular channel? Is it after beating the final boss in the final area?

harsh leaf
#

I mean, you can go whenever you want

gray haven
#

You might still see some spoilers in the other channels after beating the final boss if that's what you're worried about. But #h1-builds-and-combat should be safe at that point for the most part.

#

#h1-discussion doesn't allow spoilers either, so you should be fine there, too, after beating the final boss.

spring jungle
#

Is aspect of Guan Yu any good?

harsh leaf
#

Not really, no. It can be fun, though!

spring jungle
#

I figured since It nerfs its entire moveset for the sake of lifesteal on a move that sucks

harsh leaf
#

Spinning with GY is usually a trap, I straight up dont do it

#

Get charged skewer though, and it really shines

spring jungle
#

Doesnt that one affect its special though?

harsh leaf
#

Yes

#

GY has a different special

gray haven
#

Guan Yu is pretty good, yeah.

#

Spin builds can be plenty strong with Divine Strike or Frost Strike.

#

If you want to do a spin build for the lifesteal, the #1 hammer to get is Massive Spin.

spring jungle
#

Id rather build special or attack

#

Though I like building special more because of how much fun it is

gray haven
#

I'm still looking into optimizing Attack/Special builds for Guan Yu in the new patch. It changed a lot.

leaden whale
#

If you get the right spin upgrades guan yu is ez mode

#

I struggle with bosses with guan yu

#

And I feel like I need aphrodite on attack or special or I'll die

cinder harness
#

if u do a decent special build u just chunk bosses with guan u

#

u kinda need the hammer upgrade tho

gray haven
#

It doesn't really need any hammer upgrades for a spin build. But they help for sure.

#

Guan Yu before the patch optimally was Special/Dash-Strike hybrid. That's why the new patch changed a lot. You can no longer do two Dash-Strikes in quick succession.

cinder harness
#

and idk if its that bad to rely on aphro somewhat, i mean its pretty good

gray haven
#

The second Dash-Strike will instead become the second hit in the regular Attack combo, and then if you try to Dash-Strike immediately after that, you get the third hit in the combo.

harsh leaf
#

Are you sure? Pretty sure you can delay the attack button press a bit and still get two dash attacks in

cursive prism
#

Can you do the ||Arthur|| thing and buffer the attacks with a dash inbetween?

gray haven
#

You can delay it, yes.

#

in quick succession

harsh leaf
#

You're not delaying it so much as to completely change the gameplay, is my point

#

Just adjust the timing

gray haven
#

That's a big drop in DPS from before. That's why I'm still looking into optimizing it.

harsh leaf
#

You're not delaying it so much as to reset the dash timer, even

gray haven
#

It's a lot, and it's a lot slower. I don't know what your point is.

dusty gate
#

I haven’t even bothered to unlock it

#

Really not a fan of spear

#

All the other weapons make good sense to me

uneven wing
#

Holy wow. 2 health left with one DD left and I finally killed the 2 in Ely.

undone reef
#

bad server wow

#

cant even show emotion smh

sly vigil
undone reef
#

anyway hades is apparently ransomware

uneven wing
#

I have some weird scuffed setup with Ares Dio Artemis with no call or cast

undone reef
#

according to malwarebytes

#

so that’s great news

sly vigil
#

i mean

#

i did have to pay $20 to be able to play as zagreus

#

so it's right, alright

undone reef
#

it’s prolly not supposed to happen though

#

just a feeling

candid nimbus
#

Should be a way to let malwarebytes not be like that... antivirus softwares do stuff like that from time to time

undone reef
#

it’s just doing its job tho

#

i’d rather have false positives than undetected viruses

candid nimbus
#

I know, I meant there's probably a way to make Hades an exception. Interesting though

#

Based on what people tell us, Hades does ransom your life a bit

uneven wing
#

And cant clear P1, RIP

candid nimbus
#

You'll get 'em next time, you got this 👍

acoustic drum
#

Does anybody know a good way of fighting thesis since minataur is easy but I usually die once because of thesis

sterile solar
#

hug pillars

mental widget
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*hug Theseus

sterile solar
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you can tell when hes about to throw spear, then hide behind a pillar

sweet root
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theseus always turns around after throwing a spear

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its the best opportunity to attack him

acoustic drum
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Also what about giant rats

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The poison is also annoying I reckon I'm good at hades but poison usually kills me to

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Before I can cure

harsh leaf
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Just attack them from a distance

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They're slow so you can get backstabs easily

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Or just cast them down

cursive prism
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both the spear and the fists can also stunlock the unarmored rats, so just standing still and mashing attack is an option

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that also goes for the snake statues and satyrs for that matter

patent horizon
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Hello everyone. I think I should have unlocked Chthonic Colleagues but the prophecy isn't complete. I'm missing chaos... but I already met chaos a few times, i even have her keepsake. Is this a known bug, or am i misunderstanding something ?

cursive prism
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Chaos aint a C'thonic god is he

patent horizon
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oh !!

cursive prism
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I think I know who you're missing but it aint Chaos

patent horizon
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i guess i'm missing someone else then

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i wonder who it is, i have 22 runs (22 failed, ofc) and there are still some gods to unveil ? nice

candid nimbus
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Should be in Codex, no?

wide coyote
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I don't know if this qualifies as a new player question or not, but does Divine Strike work with Shield Block?

cursive prism
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No, blocking with the shield will not deflect projectiles

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But will obviously block them

wide coyote
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thonkery
Well, that's okay I guess. I'm trying to structure a run around deflection, so I wanted to workshop that.

patent horizon
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Chaos is under "chthonic god" in the codex 🙂

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but there is indeed an "undiscovered" one also

wide coyote
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It's probably the same person I'm missing but I'm sorta sure it's a spoiler

cursive prism
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Ah, I guess they put him there instead of making an entire own category for him (and nyx I suppose)

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It's... yeah, a spoiler

harsh leaf
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You're gonna have to see the credits first, boyo

wide coyote
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Is it the one that sometimes shows up as Employee of the Month in the lounge?

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Cause I know I haven't seen them

harsh leaf
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Oh, you might be missing Than then

wide coyote
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Don't know if they're a spoiler

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Cause

harsh leaf
wide coyote
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anyway, yeah, building a run around using Athena's Deflect boons is what I'm trying for my 2nd possible clear. Not sure how good of an idea that is

sweet root
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i think you only need deflect on one button

wide coyote
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That's pretty much it though

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By combining the Aspect of Zeus shield with Divine Flourish, Brilliant Riposte, Empowering Flight, and Blinding Flash for the special attack

sweet root
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taking deflect on dash or attack/special (whichever one you press a lot) is really recommended for new players though

wide coyote
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So I'm throwing a constant deflect zone that I'm using as cover that can hit multiple times so I can have constant Empowering Flight for +80% damage

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Then pretty much combining that with Blinding Flash so I can get... what's the math... 205% damage from the back?

candid nimbus
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Deflect the world

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I go deflect/dodge build on Zag fists

wide coyote
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Plus I gambled on chaos once so I got another 38% attack damage so my backstab damage is... 240%

patent horizon
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how does one "choose" a build?

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i'm only getting random boons

wide coyote
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You sort of do, sort of don't

patent horizon
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ah

wide coyote
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Though you can use certain keepsakes to start it off

patent horizon
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when i choose the keepsake of a god, that only work for the very first boon outside of my room, right ?

wide coyote
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Like, I wanted to try using deflect with the special throw, so I used Athena's Keepsake to guarantee I started with the special

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No

harsh leaf
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You can buy an upgrade that lets you change keepsakes after every boss

wide coyote
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If you change to a boon between zones after a boss, their effect will apply

dawn niche
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Its more building off of a main boon

cursive prism
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Athena does have a pretty nice legendary boon if you can get a hold of it

wide coyote
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Which

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Anyway, what Kuroui said is right

patent horizon
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mitch, how can you guarantee you start with the special ? you give up if the boon you get is attack/dash/call for example ?

cursive prism
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Divine Protection, creates a barrier that negates damage every 20 seconds

wide coyote
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Might as well

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It's very common to get divine flourish though

patent horizon
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i see

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what's a flourish ? special ?

wide coyote
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It's the title for Athena's special based boon

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"Divine Flourish"

patent horizon
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alright, so by basically giving up if you don't have the one boon you want to build off, you can always choose at least one

cursive prism
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All special buffing boons are called "X Flourish"

patent horizon
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what do you do if you get daedalus first ? o/

wide coyote
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Wouldn't matter

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The first God based boon you get, if you have their keepsake, is usually that god

cursive prism
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Daedalus is generally better than a boon anyway, depending a little bit on weapon

wide coyote
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Though I have only one event that has gone against that

cursive prism
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so you're usually pretty happy to see it early

wide coyote
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Which... the game recognized

harsh leaf
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Hermes doesnt count as a god for the keepsakes to overwrite, technically

wide coyote
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Yeah, that would be why

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Man outright apologized

patent horizon
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hey but... if you don't mind giving up if the first thing you see isn't what you want... why not choose a boon that actually does something (stat wise, or bonus wise) and just brute force the first boon ?

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i guess that's not fun -_-' that's enough of a reason

wide coyote
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The only scenario where I would keep going if the God Boon didn't appear

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Is if a Daedalus hammer showed up

harsh leaf
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There are also some interesting edge cases, like you get offered multiple rooms and one is the keepsake god and one isnt. You take the other one in the hopes of an elite room with your keepsake god for extra rarity boost, for example

patent horizon
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"hope of an elite room" haha we're not playing the same game yet i think

dusty gate
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Anyone know how to ||get the fish you obtain by fishing in Greece after you beat the game?||

patent horizon
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i avoid these for now, to go as far as possible

paper fern
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The fish are moved to the boss room

wide coyote
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Elite Rooms can spawn even if you haven't cleared the game yet

patent horizon
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elite rooms are rooms with a skull, right ?

harsh leaf
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Anyone know how to ||get the fish you obtain by fishing in Greece after you beat the game?||
@dusty gate They'll appear in the final arena

patent horizon
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if i have a choice between an elite room and a normal room, i usually enter the normal one

paper fern
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Tbh I find that armored enemy rooms are easier than normal rooms because they have less enemies

patent horizon
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how many runs before i can hope to beat the game ?

harsh leaf
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Depends how fast you can git gud

patent horizon
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22 runs so far, beat the 3rd boss, couldn't get past the guardian of the next area

candid nimbus
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Can never beat the game, game won't let me leave

wide coyote
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Or just how lucky you get

patent horizon
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not sure if i'm clear enough

uneven wing
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Man, those hitboxes after dash are brutal

wide coyote
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I think I cleared the game on my 19th run?

harsh leaf
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21 here

candid nimbus
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You're doing fine, we see people clear within 10 and 100+

uneven wing
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BBG is pretty difficult

wide coyote
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But honestly my build was doing all kinds of heavy lifting

patent horizon
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i find ranged build much easier than melee build, is that normal ? i don't see myself ever cleaning the game with the sword or shield for example

uneven wing
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Its based on play style

misty remnant
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How does hangover work? I know you can stack it up to 5 times, and also that different boons/different rarities give different damage/second. What happens if you have two boons that grant hangover at different damage/second counts?

candid nimbus
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Personal preference really, my first clear was fist

uneven wing
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I like both but the gloves I cannot do anything with

candid nimbus
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each 'stack' of hangover is its own stack

misty remnant
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shield is not necessarily melee

wide coyote
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My cast dealt festive fog, chill, and lightning, and lightning would cause jolt and stacking chill caused burst damage in my first clear

candid nimbus
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so if you have an attack hangover and a special hangover, each can apply 1

patent horizon
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chill... never encountered this status yet

candid nimbus
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and they are treated as their own

wide coyote
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Don't worry about it

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chill... never encountered this status yet
@patent horizon Bet, that answers the question "What God are you missing"

candid nimbus
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Can't stack past 5, so if you have a higher damage hangover you're losing damage 😦

patent horizon
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haha ok nice

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what weapon would i choose for a cast build ?

wide coyote
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Cast Builds are pretty much weapon-neutral as far as I've been able to see

patent horizon
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never tried one before, don't know what god would be good

wide coyote
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Festive Fog is really nice if you need a break, it will stun enemies inside

slender yew
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Poseidon aspect gives cast bonus damage, also pairs really well with Artemis’ exit wounds

patent horizon
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alright then, thank you very much everyone for your answers, i'll go back to discovering the game on my own now ^^

wide coyote
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sure

uneven wing
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Artemis exit wounds and Hermes Quick reload are really good for a cast build

spring jungle
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Which is better Long knuckle, or heavy knuckle?

pallid tangle
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Is it just me or do I very rarely ever get aphrodites boons?

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Like out of all the olympians, I get her the least

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wait

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aphrodites*

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Is that intentional, or is there some kind of order in chances of getting a certain god's boons?

uneven wing
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From a conversation earlier, theres basically a way where if you got certain boons it makes it less likely you will get them in your next run

pallid tangle
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Then I should be a getting basically 0 dionysis and poseidon boons by now because I get those practically every run

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wait do you mean certain boons or certain gods appearing

dusty gate
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@harsh leaf ty

harsh leaf
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What'd I do dusa

dusty gate
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Answered my question about fish

hot yoke
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From a conversation earlier, theres basically a way where if you got certain boons it makes it less likely you will get them in your next run
@uneven wing huh didn't know this
Also I don't think this is accreate

harsh leaf
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Yeah, dont thinkyou can affect future runs like that

dusty gate
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Alright, nyx has repeatedly given me no dialogue

hot yoke
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It's probably just confirmation bias

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Yeah that's nyx for you

dusty gate
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Still no scroll

harsh leaf
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Time for f10

hot yoke
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The confirmation bias was in response to queen btw

dusty gate
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All other prereqs appear to be met

hot yoke
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Ahem

uneven wing
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Not sure, it was from a conversation I saw earlier. Can't say for certain because I have had almost all Gods in runs

hot yoke
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🇷 🇦 🇳 🇩 🇴 🇲

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To both of you xD

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Afaik aside from gods keepsakes forcing and the 4 slot system the rest is random

spring jungle
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Which is better Long knuckle, or heavy knuckle?

hot yoke
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What was heavy again lol

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Long knuckle depends on your aspect

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Also if you have artemis (support fire) long knuckles are p nice

spring jungle
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Your attack becomes a 3 hit burst that does 40 dmg each

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I have epic swift strike +30 atk speed

hot yoke
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Oh yeah
Well I'd say generally unless you're playing demeter aspect long knuckle is a decent choice
But it only really shines with support fire imo

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With more attack speed heavy could be an option
Do you have artemis in your build?

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I confused those two while writing lol

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Hunter/crit chick

spring jungle
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No

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Its mostly zeus and hermes with some aphrodite, ares, and athena

hot yoke
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Guess you can go for heavy then
Long knuckle is also nice for people who have a problem with the very close range style of the fists

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Oh shucks
Zeus attack with support fire and long knuckles is noice
Well unless playing demeter as I said

subtle raptor
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I got a question, for the shatterd shakles

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when it says not empowerd by a boon

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does that mean as long as no boons buff the damage of specials/attack/cast, it'll do X amount of damge?

hot yoke
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It means the core boons

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So the ones that slot in your spaces at the bar

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I.e. attack, special, dash etc boon

subtle raptor
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the sword core boon?

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the sword icon one

hot yoke
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No

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The boons that augment the different means of attacking you have
Attack, Flourish, cast, dadh

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Dash

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That's what I mean by core boons

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The ones that don't get shown at the side of your boon menu when you enlarge it

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The ones that are always present at the left side of your screen
Those that you aquire from gods

subtle raptor
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the ability that comes from the hammer?

hot yoke
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No

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Boons

subtle raptor
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is the hammer not a boon?

hearty vortex
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hammer is hammer

hot yoke
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Only the boons that are specifically titled "strike" "flourish" "shot" "flare" "dash" and "aid"

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And only the boons
As yaboiNONAME said: hammers are hammers

subtle raptor
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any of those makes shatterd shakles useless?

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so heartbreak flourish=shakles grrr

hot yoke
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In that case your special would lose the bonus from shackles

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It's in the wording

subtle raptor
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my english is bad sorry lol

hot yoke
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No worries m8

hearty vortex
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vo1di, did you mean attack, special and cast?

hot yoke
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Yes but I was trying to specify the boon names

hearty vortex
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ah, fair, I didn't get used to them yet

hot yoke
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Since TmegaK seemed to have problems with my general wording

hearty vortex
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Yeye, I gotchu fam

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brainfart moment

hot yoke
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Aid is obvs kind out if the picture but yk what I mean

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No worries if you're on this discord you're gonna see me have more than enough of those

agile yacht
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Does anyone know why the chambers for Charon's shop sometimes have a blue laurel, and other times a gold laurel?

hot yoke
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They shouldn't

agile yacht
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Got a blue laurel shop with a selection of Healing (Food) - Artemis - Daedalus Hammer, and a gold laurel shop with Pom - Key - Boon

misty remnant
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Is there a good reason for why we can't view our boons while pausing?

hot yoke
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Well you're pausing the whole game

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You can look at your boons normally, while in the codex and while at boon selection screen

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Why pause the game for it mid fight

misty remnant
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if you saved the game right before a boss fight and decided to take a break

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say you come back and don't remember your boons

hearty vortex
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press B

misty remnant
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the game continues into the boss fight

hearty vortex
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you can't quit on an active room iirc

misty remnant
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It's hard to assess my boons while || a big boar is slashing me ||

hot yoke
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Well yes but you can see you're core boons all the time

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Just get to a quick cornery press - scan for your hammer and duos, go on

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That obvs gets easier with game knowledge

sterile solar
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Does anyone know why the chambers for Charon's shop sometimes have a blue laurel, and other times a gold laurel?
charon and npcs dont fall into the normal pools, so their laurels are whatever color the other door is

hot yoke
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Bless ya
Was searching for the laurel pic and couldn't find it

sterile solar
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if they are solo door they are usually gold, but if they are paired with a currency door, then their laurel will be blue

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since they can be paired with both

safe niche
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is a dash strike considered as an attack?

hot yoke
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Dash strike is dash strike

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Attack is attack

safe niche
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hmm

hot yoke
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Etc

safe niche
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so how does it work exactly

hot yoke
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Those are hard coded terms in hades

safe niche
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if u attack right after a dash

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or u press the attack button during the dash o.o

hot yoke
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If you press attack right after a dash it's a dash strike

harsh leaf
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What is the exact interaction you're wondering about pleb

safe niche
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cos like

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if i have an attack boon but i keep dash striking

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i dont benefit from the attack boon right

harsh leaf
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It does

hot yoke
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If you have Aphro f.e. the buffs would still apply

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But there are some hammers and chaos boons that specifically interact with your dash strike

safe niche
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oh

hot yoke
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And they won't influence ur regular atttack

safe niche
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so attack boons affect ur dash strike but dash strike doesnt affect ur atk

hot yoke
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Like the serrated point hammer for spear f.e.

safe niche
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oki thanks

hot yoke
viscid idol
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What can I do with Ambrosia?

hot yoke
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If you get to a locked heart with someone

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You have to compete a quest for them

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For major events there will be prophecies showing up

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After you completed them that lock will vanish

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After that you gift them ambrosia instead of nectar